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[PRELIMINARY OPEN MEETING]
THE COUNCIL WILL NOW RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION IN TRAINING ROOM A TO HOLD A CLOSED EXECUTIVE MEETING PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF VERNON'S TEXAS CODES ANNOTATED GOVERNMENT CODE, CHAPTER 551, THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AUTHORITY CONTAINED IN SECTION 551.071 TO CONSULT WITH THE ATTORNEY TO RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE AND DISCUSS LITIGATION.THANK YOU. I NOW DECLARE THAT THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL PRELIMINARY OPEN MEETING IS RECONVENED IN OPEN SESSION THAT ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT. OUR FIRST ITEM ON THE PRELIMINARY AGENDA IS CONSIDERATION AND ACTION RESULTING FROM THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.
OUR NEXT ITEM IS PERSONNEL APPOINTMENTS. TAX INCREMENT FINANCING REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER FOUR, BOARD CHAIR. MR. MAYOR, AT THIS POINT, I MOVE TO APPOINT NADIA CHRISTIAN AS THE CHAIR FOR THE TIRZ NUMBER FOUR. MR. MAYOR, I SECOND THAT.
OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THE TAX INCREMENT FINANCING REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER FOUR, BOARD CHAIR. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND. MOTION PASSES 8 TO 0.
THANK YOU. OUR NEXT ITEM IS THE WILLOW BEND DISTRICT UPDATE PRESENTATION.
CURTIS. WELCOME. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS.
CURTIS HOWARD, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER. TONIGHT, I'D LIKE TO TALK TO YOU AND GIVE YOU A SHORT OVERVIEW OF THE SHORT HISTORY OF THE WILLOW BEND REDEVELOPMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE. SO JUST A LITTLE BIT.
SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS COMMITTEE WAS TO CREATE KIND OF AN ORGANIZED METHOD OF PROVIDING A CONSTRUCTIVE AND SOLUTION ORIENTED PROCESS IN WHICH FEEDBACK CAN BE GATHERED FROM THE COMMUNITY AND PROVIDED TO STAFF AND OUR CONSULTANTS IN THIS CASE, AND THEN ALSO AS A CONDUIT TO PROVIDE INFORMATION BACK TO THE TO THE COMMUNITY AS NEEDED. AND SO IN MID AUGUST, WHAT WE DID IS WE, WE REACHED OUT TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS, INCLUDING OUR HOA'S AND OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS LOOKING FOR VOLUNTEERS FOR THIS COMMITTEE.
FROM THAT LIST, FROM THE REQUEST, WE PUT TOGETHER A LIST AND THAT WENT TO THIS COUNCIL.
AND ON AUGUST 24TH YOU CAME UP WITH THE TEN MEMBER AD HOC COMMITTEE.
AT THAT POINT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE, AS YOU'VE SEEN SO WE HAVE HAD SIX MEETINGS SO FAR IN WHICH THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS WERE ABLE TO GATHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMUNITY, PROVIDE OR ASK THOSE QUESTIONS TO CONSULTANTS AND STAFF WHO HAVE INFORMATION ON SOME OF THOSE HOT BUTTON ISSUES THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, AND THEN ALSO TAKE THAT INFORMATION BACK AND PROVIDE IT TO THE COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE ONE SCHEDULED MEETING LEFT FOR TOMORROW NIGHT, AND THAT IS GOING TO BE WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE CREATED A PUBLIC ONLINE SURVEY WHICH PEOPLE CAN ASK QUESTIONS. THOSE QUESTIONS ARE BEING POPULATED RIGHT NOW.
AND WE'LL GIVE THOSE QUESTIONS TO THE COMMITTEE TOMORROW NIGHT.
AND THEY'LL ASK ALL THE CONSULTANTS AND PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION.
SO UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME, IT IS MY HONOR TO INTRODUCE BILL WARREN, WHO IS THE CHAIR OF THE WILLOW BEND REDEVELOPMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE. HELLO, MAYOR MUNS AND EVERYBODY ELSE, I APPRECIATE YOUR LETTING ME BE HERE TONIGHT AND TALK TO YOU.
AND WE'VE BEEN VERY HAPPY TO MEET WITH FEHR & PEERS TWICE NOW, WHERE THEY'VE DISCUSSED THE TRAFFIC SITUATION AND HOW THEY'RE GOING TO MITIGATE TRAFFIC. AND FRANKLY, IT'S BEEN VERY INTERESTING.
THEY ADMIT THAT THEY'VE FINISHED PHASE ONE AND THEY GOT A LOT MORE WORK TO DO.
BUT BY AND LARGE, WE REALLY ENJOYED THE PROCESS THAT THEY'RE GOING THROUGH AND THE CONTENT.
HOW MANY PEOPLE PER CAR, HOW MANY CARS? ET CETERA.
ET CETERA. ET CETERA. A LOT OF DETAIL AND FRANKLY, THEY ENJOYED OUR COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS.
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WHEN PEOPLE COME TO GAMES AND THEY WANT TO USE THE NEIGHBORHOODS FOR OVERFLOW PARKING, AND THEY REALLY DIDN'T WANT THAT.THE POLICE CHIEF WAS VERY CLEAR ON WHAT HE WAS GOING TO DO WITH CARS THAT WERE NOT PARKED CORRECTLY IN THE GARAGES AND SO FORTH, INSTEAD OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THEY'VE BEEN VERY GOOD AT LISTENING TO OUR COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS.
THE SAME THING IS TRUE WITH, WITH LOOKING AT PROPERTY VALUES AND WORKING WITH ZACTAX ON THAT.
WE HAVE ASKED THEM AS OF THE OTHER NIGHT TO REALLY EXPLAIN TO US THE THE PROPERTY VALUE SITUATION OVER AT CEDAR CREEK MALL AND WHAT THAT DID WHEN YOU HAD A DORMANT THING. BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT A DEAD THING OVER HERE.
IT WILL HAVE BEEN EITHER. SO WE WANT TO SEE SOME CONTRAST.
AND THAT HAD NOT BEEN PART OF THE STUDY. SO THEY'RE GOING TO ADD THAT TO THE STUDY.
WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO GO THROUGH. SO WE ENJOY THAT.
MAIN THING IS WE ENJOYED BEING ABLE TO TALK TO THEM, MAKE COMMENTS, ASK QUESTIONS.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK A SINGLE MEETING LASTED LESS THAN AN HOUR AND A HALF TO TWO HOURS.
I WANT TO THANK CURTIS HOWARD AND DOUG MCDONALD FOR ALL THEY'VE DONE TO SUPPORT US AS A COMMITTEE, BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN GREAT. AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, I WANT TO THANK ALL THOSE COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
IT'S BEEN EXTREMELY CIVIL PROCESS, I CAN TELL YOU, WHICH HOA'S DON'T WANT THIS THING, BUT THEY'VE SAID IT IN A CIVIL WAY, AND THEY'RE THE ONES CLOSEST TO WHERE THE ARENA WOULD BE, AND YOU WOULD EXPECT THAT.
SO BUT IT'S BEEN DONE IN A VERY PROFESSIONAL AND CIVIL WAY.
SO MAYOR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ASKING US TO DO THIS.
THANK YOU BILL. ALL RIGHT UNLESS THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE CALEB AND THE TRANSPORTATION CONSULTANTS.
ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING. CALEB THORNHILL, DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING.
I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A REALLY BRIEF INTRODUCTION TO FEHR & PEERS, WHO YOU JUST HEARD MENTIONED.
THE PURPOSE OF TONIGHT IS TO TALK ABOUT THE IMPACT OF THE REDEVELOPMENT WITH THE ARENA ON THE TRANSPORTATION NETWORK AROUND THE SITE. EXCUSE ME. I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW THESE PRELIMINARY OR THESE FINDINGS ARE PRELIMINARY.
FEHR & PEERS WILL GET INTO THAT, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE LOCAL OR EXISTING ASSUMPTIONS THAT THEY CAME UP WITH AND THE PRELIMINARY MITIGATION MEASURES THAT THEY DEVELOPED. SO WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO FEHR & PEERS.
GOOD EVENING TO THE COUNCIL. HOW'S EVERYBODY DOING.
JOSH PETERMAN FROM FEHR & PEERS. I'LL BRING JOHN GARD FROM FEHR & PEERS UP HERE IN A SECOND.
WE ARE JUST ABOUT DONE WITH AS CALEB SAID, THE PRELIMINARY PHASE OF OUR TRANSPORTATION ANALYSIS.
WE'RE ABOUT TO DELIVER ABOUT 130 PAGES OF REPORT TO THE CITY.
AS CALEB JUST SAID, THIS IS A PHASED STUDY APPROACH.
THIS IS THE PRELIMINARY PHASE. SO THIS IS AN INFORMATIONAL UPDATE.
THERE'S NO ACTION THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN TONIGHT.
THERE ARE AT LEAST TWO PHASES THAT WILL HAPPEN OF THIS STUDY.
PHASE ONE INCLUDES FOUR THINGS. IT'S GOT A PRELIMINARY AND I'LL GO THROUGH THIS IN A SECOND.
A PRELIMINARY SITE REDEVELOPMENT ASSUMPTIONS.
IT'S GOT AN ANALYSIS FOR THE PROJECT IN 2031 THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE OPENING DAY.
AND THEN, AS I SAID, WE'LL BE PROVIDING AT THE END OF THIS MONTH A COMPLETE REPORT.
THIS IS OUR STUDY AREA THAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU.
WE GO AS FAR WEST AS MARSH LANE. AGAIN, IN THE PRELIMINARY PHASE.
THIS IS HOW THESE ARE THE EXTENTS. SO MARSH LANE TO THE WEST.
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PGBT SORRY, PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH TURNPIKE TO THE SOUTH ALL THE WAY TO PRESTON ON THE EAST AND UP TO PARKER.I TALKED ABOUT SOME OF OUR LAND USE ASSUMPTIONS. HERE THEY ARE. SO WE'RE STUDYING A FEW THINGS.
SO WITH REGARD TO THE ARENA ITSELF IT CAN BE USED FOR DIFFERENT PURPOSES.
BUT TO BE CONSERVATIVE WE'RE LOOKING AT A HOCKEY GAME WHICH IS 18,000 PEOPLE.
WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT A CONCERT WHICH CAN BE RECONFIGURED TO HOLD ABOUT AS MANY AS 19,500 PEOPLE.
IT'S ALSO GOT A BUNCH OF NON ARENA USES OFFICE, RETAIL, HOTEL.
THE THREE GARAGES THAT ARE ON THE SITE, WE'VE ASSUMED THOSE ARE GOING TO REMAIN, AND WE'VE ALSO ASSUMED NO CHANGE TO THE EXISTING INGRESS AND EGRESS FROM THE SHOPS AT WILLOW BEND SITE. FROM A MOBILITY PERSPECTIVE, AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO BE AS CONSERVATIVE AS POSSIBLE.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF DIFFERENT RIDESHARE. WE'RE ASSUMING THAT RIDESHARE WILL BE PROVIDED SOMEWHERE ON OR OFF SITE IN A CONCENTRATED AREA, NOT SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOODS. EXISTING WALKWAYS AND BIKEWAYS WILL REMAIN, AND ALL OF THE PARKING THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN ASSOCIATED WITH THAT SITE IS GOING TO HAPPEN ON SITE. THAT'S AN IMPORTANT ASSUMPTION.
WE ASSUME ALL THE TRIPS TO THE SITE ARE GOING TO END AT THE SITE, AND ALL THE TRIPS HOME, OR TO PEOPLE'S OFFICES OR WHEREVER ARE ALSO DEPARTING FROM THE SITE THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR OUR TRANSPORTATION ANALYSIS.
THE SCENARIO STUDIED BEFORE A SOLD OUT HOCKEY GAME.
SO GENERALLY SPEAKING, BEFORE A CONCERT, PEOPLE DRIFT IN.
SO THAT HAPPENS IN THAT FIRST HOUR BEFORE THE GAME, 6 TO 7 P.M.
LIKEWISE, PEOPLE STAY AT A CONCERT UNTIL THEY'RE DONE.
AND SO EVERYBODY LEAVES A CONCERT VERY QUICKLY.
SO THOSE ARE THE TWO ACUTE TIME PERIODS THAT WE WANT TO STUDY.
SO 6 TO 7 BEFORE A HOCKEY GAME, 11 TO MIDNIGHT AFTER A CONCERT.
WE MAY CONSIDER OTHER TIME PERIODS AS PART OF A FUTURE PHASE.
IN TERMS OF YEARS WE STUDIED TODAY WE TOOK TRAFFIC COUNTS FROM TODAY.
WE ALSO STUDIED 2031 BECAUSE THAT'S THE OPENING DAY.
WE STUDIED WITH THE PROJECT. WE STUDIED WITHOUT THE PROJECT.
WE MAY, AS I SAID, CONSIDER OTHER YEARS GOING FARTHER OUT, TEN YEARS FORWARD FROM THAT IN 2041.
HOW MANY TRIPS WILL BE MADE? HOW WILL PEOPLE TRAVEL FROM WHERE ARE THEY TRAVELING? WHAT ROADWAYS ARE THEY GOING TO TAKE? HOW CAN THAT AFFECT TRAFFIC FLOW AROUND THE SITE AND WHAT CAN BE DONE ABOUT THAT? SO THAT IS WHAT OUR REPORT TALKS ABOUT. AND I'M GOING TO WORK WITH JOHN HERE TO JUMP RIGHT TO THE END AS TO WHAT OUR TRANSPORTATION ANALYSIS EVOLVED INTO. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, JOHN GARD FEHR & PEERS.
SO WITH RESPECT TO MITIGATIONS FOR PROJECT IMPACTS, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THE MITIGATIONS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THE PROJECT SITE. AGAIN, JOSH MENTIONED THE GEOGRAPHIC LIMITS OF MITIGATIONS ACTUALLY EXTEND AS FAR EAST AS PRESTON, SOME ON THE TURNPIKE, SOME AS FAR NORTH AS PARKER.
GIVEN THE TIME WE HAVE, WE CAN'T GET INTO EVERY MITIGATION, ALL THE DETAILS. BUT THE ARROWS MEAN, YOU KNOW, TURN LANE LENGTHENING, ADDING A TURN POCKET, THINGS LIKE THAT. THE BOXES MEAN ADDING DIFFERENT TYPES OF PHYSICAL IMPROVEMENTS.
WHEN WE TESTED THIS, WE'RE ONLY LOOKING AT SORT OF THE HIGH BENEFIT COST, RIGHT, THINGS THAT ARE EASY TO DO, LENGTH AND A TURN LANE, STUFF LIKE THAT. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING LIKE TUNNELS OR FLYOVERS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS, IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, WHAT WE'RE FINDING IS THAT BY AND LARGE, MOST OF THE IMPACTS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED CAN BE MITIGATED, CAN BE STORED OPERATIONS TO A TOLERABLE LEVEL OF DELAY.
AND MOST OF THOSE DON'T REQUIRE THE BIG, YOU KNOW, THE BIG MORE COMPLICATED THINGS.
I'LL TALK ABOUT POST EVENT IN A SECOND BECAUSE THAT'S A UNIQUE SITUATION.
BUT THE AREAS, AS WE ALL KNOW, DRIVING THROUGH THAT AREA, THE CORRIDOR, PARK BOULEVARD FROM PLANO PARKWAY THROUGH DALLAS PARKWAY TO PARKWOOD IS BUSY AND WE'VE TESTED THE LOW HANGING FRUIT, SO TO SPEAK.
IT WORKS WELL. IT MITIGATES THINGS, BUT NOT TO THE DEGREE WE WANT.
SO THERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL STEPS IN PHASE TWO THAT WE NEED TO CHECK INTO TO FIND OUT HOW TO FURTHER MITIGATE THAT, TO IMPROVE TRAFFIC. POST EVENT AFTER THE CONCERT ENDS, OR BASKETBALL GAME OR HOCKEY GAME ENDS IS A VERY UNIQUE SITUATION BECAUSE THERE'S NOT AS
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MUCH BACKGROUND TRAFFIC AND THE TRAFFIC IS ON THE SITE ALREADY.SO IT PROVIDES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR EVENT TRANSPORTATION MANAGEMENT, WHERE THE CITY'S POLICE AND OTHER CAN DIRECT CARS RADIALLY AWAY FROM THE ARENA TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT TRAFFIC TO FLOW QUICKLY AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE KEY EARLY FINDINGS WITH RESPECT TO THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.
WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT BACK TO JOSH. WHEN WE WERE MEETING WITH THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND SPEAKING WITH THE CITY, CLEARLY THIS ARENA AND ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT IS HAS SOME RESIDENCES AROUND IT.
SO ONE OF THE TOPICS WAS HOW TO PROTECT NEIGHBORHOODS FROM EVENT TRAFFIC, NOT JUST PARKING, BUT ALSO CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC. AND WE'VE DISCUSSED SEVERAL SOLUTIONS.
WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT THOSE MORE IN DEPTH IN THE NEXT PHASE.
THE CITY ALREADY HAS, FOR EXAMPLE, A NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PROGRAM.
THAT PROGRAM COULD BE USED SPECIFICALLY FOR SOME OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.
WE'VE EXAMINED AND SOME OF THE PICTURES ON THIS SLIDE SHOW THEM PERMANENT OR EVENT RELATED TERM RESTRICTIONS, EVENT DATE CLOSURES AND POLICE DIRECTED TRAFFIC CONTROL.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT GATED ACCESS WITH THE COMMUNITY, AS WELL AS EITHER, AGAIN, EITHER TEMPORARY OR PERMANENT PARKING RESTRICTIONS OR RESIDENTIAL PERMIT PARKING. THESE ARE ALL TOOLS THAT CAN BE USED IN NEIGHBORHOODS TO PROTECT THEM FROM EVENT RELATED TRAFFIC IMPACTS.
SO THAT WAS THE INITIAL PHASE. THIS NEXT PHASE WILL CONSIDER A LOT MORE.
WE'LL LOOK SPECIFICALLY AT RIDESHARE, LOOK AT TRAVEL DEMAND REDUCTION STRATEGIES.
HOW CAN WE REDUCE THE TRAFFIC BEHIND THE SITE? CONSIDER WHAT DART IS DOING. LOOK AT THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD PROTECTION STRATEGIES THAT I JUST TALKED ABOUT, AS WELL AS ESTABLISHED PERFORMANCE STANDARDS, AND PERHAPS CHANGE THE GAME TIME OF THE HOCKEY GAME.
FUTURE PHASE. WE'LL LOOK AT A FORMAL DEVELOPMENT DESCRIPTION, SOMETHING FROM THE DEVELOPER.
WE COULD EXPAND THE STUDY AREA BEYOND WHAT I HAD SHOWN.
EXPAND THE TIME HORIZON FROM 2031 TO 2041. LOOK AT THE ANALYSIS OF THOSE MORE CHALLENGING LOCATIONS, AND LOOK AT A SPECIFIC TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT AND NEIGHBORHOOD PROTECTION PROGRAM FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
ANY SITE LIKE THIS WILL ALSO HAVE A WAYFINDING PLAN, AN EVENT TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN, AS WELL AS SPECIFIC PARKING AND CURB MANAGEMENT STRATEGIES. AND THAT'S IT. LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR QUESTIONS.
ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? MARIA.
YES. I JUST WANTED TO ASK. I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS ACTUALLY PART OF YOUR CONSIDERATION, BUT WHAT ABOUT TRASH? I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THINGS ARE SORT OF LEFT OUT IN THE PARKING LOT OR OR IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IS THERE ANY PLAN TO HOW HOW TO DEAL WITH NOT JUST REGULAR TRASH, BUT ALL SORTS OF LEFTOVER THINGS. GARBAGE PICKUP WASN'T PART OF THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT IT IS FOR A DEVELOPMENT FIGURING OUT WHAT THEIR GARBAGE PICKUP NEEDS ARE IS PART OF THE SITE PLAN.
AND AS TO THE ACTUAL, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE AFTER EFFECTS OF AN EVENT.
YES. I THINK YEAH. I MEAN, WHERE IT COMES FROM, EITHER NUISANCE OR DISORDERLY CONDUCT OR WHATEVER.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A WIND, THEN, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THROW THINGS AND WHEN THEY LOSE, PEOPLE THROW THINGS. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME IMPACT AND HOW TO MITIGATE THAT AS WELL IN, IN YOUR DISCUSSION. COUNCILWOMAN WHAT WE FOCUS THEM ON IS STRICTLY THE MOVEMENT OF VEHICLES INTO AND THROUGH THE AND AROUND THAT THE DISCUSSION OF THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO DISCUSS WITH THE DEVELOPER AND WITH THE TEAM.
SO THAT IS A FUTURE DISCUSSION, BUT NOT PART OF THEIR ANALYSIS.
THAT'S FINE. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER THOMAS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU FOR COMING TO SHARE WITH US SOME OF YOUR FINDINGS.
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UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WILL BE DIFFERENT PHASES OF THIS STUDY.AND IN REVIEW OF PAGE TWO, I NOTICED THAT THERE ARE ASSUMPTIONS IN MY WORLD WE LOOK AT MORE CONCRETE NUMBERS AND, WHETHER IT'S QUALITATIVE OR QUANTITATIVE DATA.
MY QUESTION IS WHEN WILL THE ASSUMPTIONS MOVE TOWARDS MORE CONCRETE ANSWERS AS IT RELATES TO LAND USE AND MOBILITY? WITH RESPECT TO LAND USE, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
WITH RESPECT TO LAND USE, WE HAVE TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER ON THAT.
USUALLY THE DEVELOPER TEAM WILL PRESENT AN ACTUAL SET OF SITE DESCRIPTION THAT CONSISTS OF A CERTAIN LAND USE TYPE, WHETHER IT'S OFFICE OR RESIDENTIAL OR HOTEL, AND PRESENT THAT TO US.
AND THAT'S HOW WE REFINE OUR ANALYSIS, WHAT WE'RE GOING ON SO FAR, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY AND THE DEVELOPER TO COME UP WITH ASSUMPTIONS THAT ARE SOUND, BUT THEY ARE NOT BASED ON ACTUAL PROPOSAL FROM THE DEVELOPER.
SO THAT HAPPENS IN THE NEXT PHASE. SO MORE CONCRETE ANSWERS WILL HAPPEN IN THE NEXT PHASE.
ABSOLUTELY. WILL IT BE PRESENTED TO US AS WELL AS THE CITIZENS? BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE ARE GETTING THE HANG UP HERE.
A LOT OF OUR CITIZENS WANT TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE.
AND WE ARE OPERATING BASED OFF OF ASSUMPTIONS.
AND THAT BRINGS ABOUT CONCERN. AND THAT'S ALSO MY CONCERN AS WELL.
WE NEED MORE CONCRETE ANSWERS. WE WILL BE BRINGING THAT BACK AS SOON AS THE DEVELOPER HAS IT.
SO WE ASK FOR IT WEEKLY. AND SO WE ARE PUSHING TO GET THAT INFORMATION AS SOON AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.
BUT AS HE MENTIONED, IT WILL BE IN THE NEXT PHASE OF THIS ANALYSIS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. SURE THING, DEPUTY MAYOR.
THANK YOU. MAYOR. I GUESS THIS PRELIMINARY TRANSPORTATION STUDY.
I WAS KIND OF EXPECTING MORE DATA TODAY. A LOT OF THESE QUESTIONS, WE ALREADY KNEW ABOUT THEM.
SO I WAS EXPECTING TO SEE LIKE TOTAL COUNT OF VEHICLES TODAY.
WHAT ARE THE TOTAL COUNT IN THE FUTURE? I MEAN, WE'RE ALREADY OCTOBER. I'M BEING ASKED QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMUNITY. AND I STILL DON'T HAVE ANSWERS TO A LOT OF THAT. I MEAN, I WAS EXPECTING TO SEE A SIMULATION TODAY OF A PREGAME POST GAME.
I MEAN, TODAY I STILL HAVE A LOT MORE QUESTIONS THAN THE PRELIMINARY TRANSPORTATION STUDY RESULTS.
DO WE KNOW WHEN WE'RE GETTING DATA LIKE TRUE DATA? WE HAVE ALL OF THAT. THERE WAS A, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A AMOUNT OF TIME THAT WE HAVE TO PRESENT.
AND AS I SAID, THERE'S ABOUT 130 PAGES OF REPORT COMING THE CITY'S WAY.
SO ALL OF THE DATA THAT YOU COULD POSSIBLY WANT IS IN THERE.
BUT IT HAS ALL OF THE TRIPS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, EXACTLY WHICH SCENARIOS IT'LL ALL IN THERE.
I THINK IT'S BEING FINALIZED RIGHT NOW. SO THE FINAL REPORT SHOULD BE HERE WITHIN THE END OF THE MONTH, END OF THE MONTH, 31ST OCTOBER 31ST. YES. LIKE I NEED A CONCRETE DATE BECAUSE I'M BEING ASKED QUESTIONS AND I STILL CAN'T PROVIDE ANSWERS. SO WE NEED DATA. OCTOBER 31ST.
IT WILL BE HERE BY THEN. OKAY. MAYOR PRO TEM.
YEAH, THANK YOU JOSH, AND THANK YOU, JOHN, FOR PRESENTING ALSO PARTICIPATING IN ASSISTANCE MEETINGS.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT YOUR ASSUMPTIONS ON PAGE TWO.
WAS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION OR ARE WE LOOKING AT PHASE TWO, WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT PARK AND RIDES, WHERE WE HAVE THESE ABANDONED DART LOTS THAT PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO JUMP ON AND MAYBE AT THE VERY EARLY STAGES, PROBABLY USING BUSSES TO GET PEOPLE TO AND FROM THE ARENA AND THE PARK AND RIDES.
ARE WE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THAT IN THE SECOND PHASE OR.
ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. BECAUSE AGAIN, THE FIRST PHASE JUST SAYS AS IS.
RIGHT. FOR THE FIRST PHASE, WE ASSUMED ESSENTIALLY NO TRANSIT SERVICE TO THE SITE BEYOND WHAT THE CURRENT FIXED ROUTE BUS SERVICE IS TO THE SITE, WHICH IS VERY LOW CONTRIBUTION TO THE TRAFFIC DEMAND AT THE SITE.
BUT IN PHASE TWO, WE WILL LOOK AT WHETHER IT'S PUBLICLY RUN CIRCULATORS OR PRIVATELY RUN SHUTTLES AND WHETHER FROM, WHETHER THEY'RE FROM DART PARK AND RIDE LOTS OR OTHER LOTS THAT ARE AROUND THE SITE.
THAT'S CERTAINLY A CONSIDERATION AS PART OF PHASE TWO.
SO WE ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT IN PHASE TWO.
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ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THAT'S WHAT MY QUESTION WAS. YEP.COUNCIL MEMBER COMMENT ABOUT DART. IN LOOKING AT SOME OF THE NUMBERS GOING DOWN TO THE AMERICAN AIRLINES ARENA SOMETHING AROUND 10% MAYBE A LITTLE LESS, MAYBE A LITTLE MORE OF ATTENDEES ARE WRITING DART.
AND SO THAT GIVES ME THE IMPRESSION THAT THE CARS COMING TO WILLOW BEND MAY BE A LITTLE HIGHER THAN THE ONES THAT WERE GOING TO AMERICAN AIRLINES.
I'M WILL THE REPORT THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET INDICATE HOW MANY PARKING SPACES ARE GOING TO BE NECESSARY AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO TO DEAL WITH AN EVEN LARGER INFLUX OF SUCH TRAFFIC.
YES. AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THAT AS PART OF PHASE TWO.
SO TO THE FIRST PART OF YOUR QUESTION, THE REPORT THAT WE ARE PROVIDING WILL TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT THE WE CALL IT MODE SPLIT, BUT HOW MANY PEOPLE WE ASSUME TO BE DRIVING VERSUS TAKING TRANSIT OR RIDING BIKES, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, TO THE SITE IN 2031 ON OPENING DAY. BUT THEN ALSO IT HAS A PRELIMINARY ANALYSIS OF HOW MANY PARKING SPACES WOULD BE NEEDED.
WE PRESENTED AT THE LAST CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING, A SHARED PARKING ANALYSIS.
WE PRESENTED THAT TO THE DEVELOPER AS WELL. BUT ALL OF THAT NEEDS TO BE WORKED ON, FURTHER HONED WITH THE DEVELOPER, BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER SOURCES OF PARKING THAT THEY ARE ALSO CONSIDERING AS PART OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT.
THANK YOU. YEP. COUNCIL MEMBER KEHR. YOU MENTIONED THAT THE EXISTING PARKING WILL REMAIN. DO YOU ANTICIPATE ADDING PARKING IN THE IN THE AREA.
WE ASSUMED PARKING BASED ON WHAT, ON INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED TO US BY THE DEVELOPER.
SO THE OFFICE WOULD HAVE ITS PARKING AND THE RESIDENTIAL WOULD HAVE ITS PARKING ET CETERA. DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT THE ACTUAL PLACEMENT OF THE ARENA ON THAT LAND WILL AFFECT THE TRAFFIC FLOW? AND IF SO, YOU KNOW, IS THAT ALSO COMING IN THE FUTURE? THOSE IMPLICATIONS OF. THE PLACEMENT OF THE ARENA ON THE SITE CERTAINLY DOES IMPACT TRAFFIC FLOW.
THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE REFINED AS PART OF PHASE TWO AS THAT SITE GETS CHANGED.
OKAY. YOU TALKED ABOUT PHASE TWO A LITTLE BIT AND HELP ME UNDERSTAND ARE THERE IS THE RANGE OF THE STUDY GOING TO CHANGE? ARE WE GOING TO GO BEYOND PARKER OR FURTHER WEST OR FURTHER EAST OR ANYTHING? IT COULD, IT DEPENDS. WHEN WE EXAMINE WHERE TRAFFIC IS COMING FROM, WE MIGHT NEED TO EXPAND THE STUDY AREA.
IF WE DECIDE, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE IS TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING TO BE SOUTH OF PGBT.
AND SO WE SHOULD CONSIDER SOME OF THE IMPACTS TO OTHER AREAS.
FOR EXAMPLE, ON PRESTON, WE LOOKED AT PARK AND WE LOOKED UP AT PARKER.
THERE MIGHT BE INTERSECTIONS IN BETWEEN THAT WE SHOULD ALSO STUDY.
SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF INFILL THAT WE'LL HAVE TO DO AS PART OF PHASE TWO.
BUT WE ALSO MIGHT EXPAND IT A LITTLE BIT. I DON'T EXPECT A LOT OF EXPANSION.
DOES YOUR STUDY OR YOUR FUTURE STUDY, DOES IT INCLUDE THE THE GROWTH ON THE DNT ESPECIALLY THERE'S MORE PEOPLE GOING NORTH AND THERE'S A LOT PROBABLY MORE CARS IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS OR SO.
YES. AND WE WILL REVISIT THAT AS PART OF PHASE TWO AS WELL.
DO YOU FEEL THAT THERE WOULD BE ADDITIONAL PHASES BEYOND THE SECOND PHASE? I DON'T BELIEVE SO. BUT THE SECOND PHASE IS PRETTY ALL ENCOMPASSING AND IS SUPPOSED TO CULMINATE IN AN EVENT TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN, WHICH IS THE PLAN THAT YOU WOULD HAVE IN PLACE BEFORE GAME TIME.
IT DOES SEEM TO BE A VERY LARGE PHASE, BIGGER THAN THE CURRENT PHASE YOU WENT THROUGH.
IT NEEDS TO GET INTO THE DETAILS. SO IT DOES HAVE IT DOES HAVE A LOT IN IT, BUT THERE'S A LOT THAT WE'VE DONE AS PART OF THIS INITIAL PHASE, WHICH SETS US UP WELL FOR FOR NEXT PHASES OF THE STUDY.
DO YOU HAVE DO YOU ANTICIPATE A DATE WHEN THAT SECOND PHASE WILL BE COMPLETED? I DO NOT. NOT AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
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MICHAEL TALLEY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. COUNCIL.MICHAEL TALLEY, DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS CHAIRMAN WARREN MENTIONED, MULTIPLE ITEMS WERE PRESENTED TO THE COMMITTEE, ONE OF THOSE BEING A RESIDENTIAL MARKET STUDY LOOKING AT MULTIPLE OPTIONS ACROSS THE UNITED STATES WHERE ARENAS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED.
SO AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO BRING UP ROBERT HANNA FROM ZACTAX FOR A PRESENTATION.
AND WE WERE ENGAGED BY STAFF TO LOOK AT FIVE COMPARABLE VENUES THAT TELL US ABOUT HOME VALUES AROUND POTENTIAL HOME VALUE IMPACT, THE NEW WILLOW BEND VENUE. SO WE TRACKED HOME VALUES AROUND THE BATTERY, WHICH IS IN ATLANTA, GEORGIA. A DICKIES ARENA IN FORT WORTH. LEVI'S STADIUM IN SANTA CLARA.
LOANDEPOT PARK IN MIAMI AND THEN INTUIT DOME, WHICH OPENED A COUPLE YEARS AGO IN INGLEWOOD.
WE ASKED REALLY TWO QUESTIONS. THE FIRST BEING, DOES THE PROXIMITY TO A VENUE MOVE RESIDENTIAL VALUES UP OR DOWN? RIGHT. AND THE SECOND WAS IF IT DOES MOVE UP OR DOWN, FOR WHOM? BY HOW MUCH AND KIND OF WHAT'S AROUND IT. WE DESIGNED OUR STUDY TO LOOK AT REALLY THREE DIFFERENT CONCENTRIC CIRCLES, KIND OF A ONE MILE RADIUS, A THREE MILE RADIUS AND A FIVE MILE RADIUS.
I'LL GET INTO THIS IN JUST A LITTLE BIT. ONE OF OUR VENUES THAT WE ALSO LOOKED AT WAS THE AT&T STADIUM IN ARLINGTON, BECAUSE IT REALLY DEVELOPED IN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT TRAJECTORY THAN WHAT MAY HAPPEN HERE.
THE COMMITTEE SUGGESTED THAT IT WAS REMOVED, AND WE ARE GOING TO REPLACE THAT WITH THE CLIMATE PLEDGE ARENA IN SEATTLE, AND ALSO ANOTHER. DEVELOPMENT IN ALEXANDRIA, VIRGINIA, CALLED POTOMAC YARD.
SO WHAT WE FOUND REALLY FOR EXCEPT FOR ONE OUT OF FIVE, THE HOME SITES WITHIN A MILE WITHIN THAT FIRST MILE RANGE OUTPACED THE OUTER RINGS, EXCEPT FOR THE BATTERY. YOU SEE IN THE BATTERY THAT THE HOME VALUES IN THAT FIRST ONE MILE CONCENTRIC AREA GREW FASTER THAN THE THREE AND FIVE MILE RING.
IN A LARGE PART THAT IS BECAUSE OF THE MIXED USE NATURE OF THE BATTERY.
BOTH THE DICKIES, LOANDEPOT, LEVI'S AND INTUIT DOME DIDN'T SEE THAT.
IT WAS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE HOUSING CRISIS.
AND SO WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT THERE IS THE GREAT RECESSION TAKING PLACE.
IT'S NOT A FUNCTION OF THE VENUE. IT'S A FUNCTION OF THE LARGER MACRO ECONOMY AT THE TIME.
SO DIGGING INTO THE BATTERY A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, YOU CAN SEE THE OFFICE AND RETAIL COMPONENT OF THAT IN THAT ONE MILE RADIUS IS SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN ANY OF THE OTHER VENUES.
THIS IS PRETTY INTUITIVE. LOWER VALUE HOMES GAINED A LARGER PERCENTAGE IN VALUE.
HIGHER VALUE HOMES GAINED A LARGER DOLLAR AMOUNT, RIGHT? SO IF YOU HAVE A SMALLER BASE AND YOU INCREASE YOUR VALUE, THAT'S GOING TO BE A LARGER PERCENTAGE THAN IF YOU HAVE A LARGER BASE AND YOU STILL INCREASE A LOT OF VALUE IT HAS A LOT MORE VALUE TO BASE TO GROW BEFORE IT CAN HAVE A LARGE PERCENTAGE.
SO CONSISTENTLY, WHAT THE STUDY FOUND WAS THAT HIGH VALUE AREAS RETAINED THEIR VALUE AND GREW AT A SLOWER RATE THAN WHAT YOU'D HAVE IN A LOWER VALUE AREA IN SOME OF THE OUTLYING OUTER LAYING ZONES IN THAT 3 TO 5 MILE RANGE.
THERE'S REALLY NO EVIDENCE THAT THE VENUE WILL DRAG DOWN HOME RESIDENTIAL VALUES.
FROM AN INNER MILE STANDPOINT ON, IS THERE A REDEVELOPMENT THREAT FOR SOME OF THE EXISTING HOMES? SO WHAT WE MEASURE IS IF ONCE THE LAND VALUE IS ABOUT 50% OF THE ACTUAL IMPROVEMENT, IT'S REALLY AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO COME IN AND POTENTIALLY REDEVELOP THIS AREA. SO WITHIN THAT ONE MILE RADIUS WILL HAVE BEEN NOW ONLY 6/10 OF A PERCENTAGE POINT EVEN REACH THAT POINT.
AND THOSE ARE LARGE LOTS THAT ARE OUT IN THE FIVE MILE RANGE MORE OFTEN THAN NOT.
AND THERE THEY WERE, OLDER HOMESTEADS THAT JUST HAVEN'T REDEVELOPED YET.
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YOUR EXISTING NEIGHBORS OR NEIGHBORHOODS ARE EXTREMELY STABLE FROM A VALUATION STANDPOINT.SO WE REALLY DON'T SEE THERE BEING THIS UNKNOWN REDEVELOPMENT RISK TO PLANO'S NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND THEN THE 1 TO 3. IT'S $532 AND 3 TO 5 IT'S $487,000.
THAT LOOKS AT BOTH ALL THREE OF THE COUNTIES, THE COLLIN, DENTON AND DALLAS COUNTIES WITHIN THAT ONE, THREE AND FIVE MILE RADIUS. WHETHER WE DO THIS OR NOT, WE THINK YOU GUYS SHOULD UPDATE ONCE WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE VENUE IN PLACE.
SO WHAT'S THE RESULT HERE? LIKELY IT'S A GRADUAL UPSIDE, RIGHT? STRONGEST WHERE THE VENUE ANCHORS A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
SO IF THE DEVELOPMENT IN QUESTION IS GOING TO HAVE OFFICE AND RESIDENTIAL AND RETAIL IN LINE WITH THAT VENUE, THERE SHOULD THERE SEEMS TO BE INDICATION THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A RISE IN RESIDENTIAL VALUES THAT MAY OUTPACE THE THREE AND FIVE MILE RINGS.
PLAN FOR STEADY APPRECIATION. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE A GIANT INCREASE NEAR THE WILLOW BEND AREA.
YOU WILL SEE AN INCREASE OVER TIME. MEASURED INCREASE OVER TIME.
THERE REALLY DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A HUGE DOWNSIDE RISK TO RESIDENTIAL VALUATIONS.
SO A COUPLE NEXT STEPS FOR US. THE COMMITTEE HAS ASKED US TO LOOK AT THE CLIMATE PLEDGE ARENA AND THE POTOMAC YARD, WHICH WE WILL DO. THEY'VE ALSO ASKED US TO DO A STUDY AT THE COLLIN CREEK MALL AREA.
SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE WHEN THE CREEK MALL WAS OPEN AND A RETAIL TRADE AREA.
WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT WHEN IT WAS CLOSED. AND WE'RE ALSO GOING TO LOOK AT NOW WHEN IT'S IN THIS REDEVELOPMENT CYCLE AND JUST SEE HOW RESIDENTIAL VALUES MAY HAVE CHANGED OVER THAT REVIEW PERIOD TO SHOW MAYBE AN OPPORTUNITY COST OPPORTUNITY THERE.
WE'RE ALSO GOING TO LOOK AT THE ONE MILE CIRCLE AREA AND DO A MORE IN DEPTH REVIEW OF THAT, MAYBE 100, 500, 1500 FOOT RADIUS FROM THE SHOPPING CENTER.
MAY I ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
ONE SECOND ROBERT. REAL QUICK. DEPUTY MAYOR. SORRY, MAYOR.
I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. I DIDN'T CLICK THE BUTTON FAST ENOUGH.
I WAS LOOKING AT THE COMPARISONS OF THE CITIES AND I SEE ONLY ONE IN TEXAS, WHICH IS FORT WORTH.
BUT THEN I SEE TWO CALIFORNIA LOCATIONS, BUT I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER TEXAS LOCATIONS.
SO IS THERE A REASON WHY THERE WASN'T ANY OTHER TEXAS LOCATIONS BEFORE THAT? I STILL WANT TO HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. AND THEN WHEN I LOOK AT THE TWO CALIFORNIA ONES, WHEN I LOOK AT POPULATION WISE, THERE'S 134 IN SANTA CLARA, AND THEN THERE'S 101 K IN INGLEWOOD WHEN PLANO'S 300,000 RESIDENTS.
YEAH. THANKS. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM.
SO THE INITIAL SELECTIONS WERE PICKED BY STAFF WITH THE ADVISEMENT FOR THE CONSULTANT TEAM.
AND THEN LOOK AT AREAS THAT ARE MORE AUTO CENTRIC COMPARED TO MORE MASS TRANSIT CENTRIC.
SO WE TRIED TO FIND ALL THOSE TYPES OF DIFFERENT CHARACTERISTICS THAT HAD SIMILARITIES.
THERE'S NOT A PERFECT FIT FOR FINDING AN APPLES TO APPLES TO WHAT WE HAVE HERE IN PLANO.
THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE DID THAT. THEY ACTUALLY REMOVED A TEXAS LOCATION, THE ARLINGTON LOCATION, AND THEY ADDED THAT BACK IN THE SEATTLE LOCATION. BUT WHAT WE DID IS WE SAID IF THERE WAS ANY LOCATION THEY'D LIKE US TO TAKE A LOOK AT, WE WOULD.
SO THERE IS NO OTHER ONES IN TEXAS THAT WERE COMPARABLE. YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THE FROM WHAT WE FEEL IN TERMS OF THE SIZE AND LOCATION AND THE PROXIMITY THAT WE FELT THE TWO THAT WERE HAD SOME SIMILARITIES WERE THE ARLINGTON LOCATION AND THE FORT WORTH LOCATION, DICKIES. WE DID QUITE A BIT LOOK AT THE STAR.
SO THAT'S WHY WE REALLY KIND OF LEANED INTO THOSE FACILITIES. BUT AGAIN, ALLOWING THE COMMITTEE TO HELP DRIVE THAT, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS THEY FELT WAS NOT ACCURATE. AND THE TWO CALIFORNIA ONES THAT ARE AT 100,000 POPULATION, THOSE WERE COMPARABLE.
YEAH. SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY'RE MORE SUBURBAN TYPE CHARACTERISTICS. SO WHEN WE'RE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PROFESSIONAL SPORTS TO TAKE A LOOK AT, ESPECIALLY THE ONES, YOU KNOW, WE WERE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF SIZE.
THAT BECAME SOME DISCUSSION TOO, BECAUSE THIS FACILITY WILL ONLY BE ABOUT 18,000.
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YOU'RE LOOKING AT AT&T WHICH SEATS 100,000. SO THAT'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT CHARACTERISTICS. WE WENT AHEAD AND SAID, OKAY, WE CAN FROM BEING A LITTLE BIT MORE CONSERVATIVE, WE CAN LOOK AT SOME LARGER STADIUMS THAT WOULD HAVE A LARGER IMPACT ON TRAFFIC THAN WHAT WE WOULD SEE.OKAY. I JUST STILL FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT TEXAS IS SUCH A LARGE STATE WITH MULTIPLE TEAMS, AND WE ONLY HAVE ONE. AND THAT'S SOMETHING. AGAIN, IF COUNCIL IF YOU IF YOU HAVE OTHER SUGGESTIONS WITH THE COMMITTEE, WE'RE HAPPY TO CONTINUE LOOKING AT THOSE CHARACTERISTICS AND ADD THOSE TO THE SCOPE. THANK YOU DOUG. OKAY.
MOVING ON TO THE FINANCING PLAN UPDATE. THANK YOU MAYOR, COUNCIL. DOUG MCDONALD, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER. WITH ME TODAY YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IS A WHOLE TEAM OF FINANCE CONSULTANTS HERE, ALONG WITH DENISE TACKE, OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR. WE HAVE LAURA ALEXANDER WITH HILLTOP. GREG HERE AT MCCALL.
I'M GOING TO RUN THROUGH A LOT OF THESE SLIDES. THESE ARE SLIDES THAT YOU ALL HAVE SEEN QUITE A BIT. WE PRESENTED THEM AS WELL TO THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. BUT THIS IS A CONSULTANT TEAM. WE HAVE, IN TERMS OF OUR PRIMARY ADVISORS FOR THE PROJECT, RANGING FROM OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR, HILLTOP HERE AT THE CITY, BUT ALSO WITH THIS PROJECT DOWN TO OUR UNDERWRITERS, JP MORGAN, WHO WE BROUGHT ON SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS PROJECT.
WE ALSO HAVE A NUMBER OF CONSULTANT TEAM MEMBERS AND OTHER ADVISORS, THE CONCORD GROUP, WHICH YOU HEARD ABOUT A FEW, FEW MEETINGS AGO, IS LOOKING AT THE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT AND THE AND FEASIBILITY AROUND THE OFFICE, RETAIL, RESIDENTIAL. WHAT THE MARKET WILL SUPPORT AROUND THE ARENA AND THEN ELEVATE, WHICH IS LOOKING AT THE ARENA FEASIBILITY ITSELF AND REVENUES THAT COULD BE GENERATED NOT ONLY FROM THE VENUE TAX, BUT ALSO FROM GENERAL SALES TAX AND TICKET TAXES AND SUCH AT THE ARENA.
THE TOTAL COST OF THE ARENA METER EXCEEDING 1 BILLION IN VALUE.
THE OVERRUNS FOR THE ARENA, ANYTHING THAT GOES OVER 1 BILLION WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BE COVERED BY THE TEAM. THE ARENA, BEING OWNED BY THE CITY AND LEASED TO THE DALLAS SPORTS AND ENTERTAINMENT L.P. FOR 30 YEARS, WITH A RENEWAL OF TEN ADDITIONAL YEARS FOR A TOTAL OF 40.
AND THEN THE DISTRICT BEING A TOTAL 3 BILLION IN VALUATION.
THE ALLOCATION OF FUNDING, WE HAVE KIND OF THREE BUCKETS, KIND OF THE WATERFALL OF FUNDS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED WITH YOU BEFORE, THE TIRZ REVENUE, WHICH IS CITY COUNCIL AUTHORIZATION THAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE BACK IN JUNE.
THE VENUE TAXES, WHICH IS VOTER AUTHORIZATION, WHICH IS BEFORE THE VOTERS IN NOVEMBER AND THE PROJECT FINANCE ZONE, WHICH IS STATE AUTHORIZATION, WHICH WILL BE COMING IN THE COMING MONTHS.
THE TIRZ AND THE TAX INCREMENT FINANCING. YOU ALL ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH WITH TIRZ HERE IN PLANO, BUT THEY ARE CREATED BY A CITY OR COUNTY. OTHER TAXING ENTITIES CAN PARTICIPATE AND JOIN IN.
WE HAVE FIVE ACTIVE HERE IN PLANO, WITH WILLOW BEND BEING THE NEWEST BUT DOWNTOWN PLANO, SILVER LINE, COLLIN CREEK AND THE LEGACY BUSINESS AREA. NUMBER SIX, WILLOW BEND IS ALONG THE DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY CORRIDOR, ABOUT 900 ACRES, 286 PARCELS. IT'S 100% NONRESIDENTIAL, DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY RESIDENTIAL PARCELS, AND IT EXPIRES IN 41 YEARS IN 1967. THE PROJECT FINANCE PLAN THAT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU BACK IN JUNE SHOWS YOU THE CONTRIBUTION THAT WOULD BE ESTIMATED, THAT WOULD GO INTO THE TIRZ FUND AND WHAT WOULD REMAIN IN THE GENERAL FUND.
SO ESSENTIALLY, ANYTHING THAT'S BEEN CAPPED BELOW THE TIRZ FUNDING IS WOULD GO BACK INTO THE GENERAL FUND THAT IS ESTIMATED RIGHT NOW TO BE ABOUT 1.6 BILLION. THAT WILL CONTINUE TO GO INTO THE GENERAL FUND AND WILL NOT GO INTO THE TIRZ FUND.
OVER 41 YEARS THAT ENDS UP BEING ABOUT 67 BILLION.
THAT WOULD BE CONTINUED GOING INTO THE GENERAL FUND.
THE CONTRIBUTION IS EXPECTED TO OFFSET THROUGH RECAPTURE ADJUSTMENTS. SO THESE DOLLARS THAT ARE TYPICALLY THAT GO BACK TO THE STATE FOR BEING RECAPTURED WOULD ACTUALLY STAY HERE IN PLANO FOR THE PROJECT TO BE REDEVELOPED AND ALSO FOR PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE AGREEMENT DOES HAVE A HOLD HARMLESS CLAUSE.
WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT [INAUDIBLE] WITH THE DART AND DALLAS AREA RAPID TRANSIT.
THEY HAVE A PROGRAM THAT ACTUALLY JUST LAUNCHED FOR PARTICIPATION WITH TIRZ DISTRICTS.
THAT WOULD GO TOWARDS OTHER TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS AND INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE FUTURE. THE VENUE TAXES, WHICH IS PART OF CHAPTER 334 OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, IT AUTHORIZES THE CITY TO LOOK AT ADDITIONAL TAXES WITH APPROVAL BY THE VOTERS FOR THINGS
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LIKE A SPORTS AND COMMUNITY VENUE. THE VOTERS WILL DECIDE IF THEY SUPPORT THIS FUNDING TOOL FOR THE SPORTS COMMUNITY THAT RELIES PRIMARILY ON VISITORS AND EVENT ATTENDEES, FOLKS WHO ARE MAYBE GOING TO EVENTS OR PARKING AT EVENTS.AND WHILE THIS IS A VOTE FOR THE FINANCING OF THIS TOOL, A NO VOTE DOES NOT PREVENT THE CITY PROCEEDING WITH THE ARENA UNDER THE STATUTE FOR THE TIRZ AND OTHER LAWS. THE VENUE TAX ELECTION HAS FIVE DIFFERENT TAXES FOR CONSIDERATION.
AND THEY'RE ALL WRAPPED UP INTO ONE PROPOSITION.
THE SHORT TERM MOTOR VEHICLE RENTAL TAX, THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX, THE VENUE EVENT PARKING TAX, THE ADMISSIONS TAX AND THE VENUE USE TAX. THESE TAXES CAN ONLY BE COLLECTED WHILE BONDS FOR THE VENUE ARE OUTSTANDING.
THIS IS THE PROPOSITION WORDING. IT IS ON THE SAMPLE BALLOT.
LOOKED AT IT TODAY. IT'S ACTUALLY ON THE SECOND PAGE AT LEAST ON MY BALLOT IN PLANO.
BUT YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT AND SEE HOW IT'S WORDED.
ONE OF THE THINGS IT DOES SHOW IS THAT THIS IS A TAX INCREASE.
SO I HAVE A FAQ BEHIND THIS. THAT EXPLAINS WHY THAT IS ON THE PROPOSITION ON THE BALLOT.
THAT IS A STATE REQUIREMENT. BUT THAT IS FORTHCOMING.
BUT THIS IS THE BALLOT LANGUAGE THAT WILL BE ON THE BALLOT IN NOVEMBER.
AND THAT I DO WANT TO INVITE SYMPATHY UP HERE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ELEVATE.
I WILL SAY ELEVATE IS A FIRM THAT WE'VE BROUGHT ON.
THEY HAVE NOT HAD THE ABILITY TO MEET WITH THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. HOWEVER, WE THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO HAVE AN INTRODUCTION HERE WITH YOU ALL, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM ON THE NEXT FUTURE PHASES. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR INVITING US HERE TO BE ABLE TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ELEVATE AND OUR INVOLVEMENT IN THIS PROJECT.
NAME IS SUMATHI THIYAGARAJAN, EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT AT ELEVATE.
WE ARE A TRUSTED ADVISOR THAT HELPS THEM SOLVE COMPLEX CHALLENGES AND DRIVE BUSINESS WINS.
WE STARTED AS A SPORTS GLOBAL CONSULTING FIRM, BUT WE HAVE NOW ALSO EVOLVED INTO A PLATFORM IN KIND OF A ONE MODEL FOR CULTURE, ATTRACTIONS, CULINARY AND HOTELS, AND WE CONTINUE TO GROW.
AND OUR PARTNERS ARE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, THROUGHOUT THE WORLD, NORTH AMERICA, EUROPE AND ASIA.
OUR METHODOLOGY CONSISTS OF SEVERAL WORKSTREAMS, INCLUDING STAKEHOLDER INTERVIEWS, COMPETITIVE BENCHMARKING, MARKET ASSESSMENTS, AND MARKET COMPARISONS. THIS IS ALL INFORMED WITH OUR ORGANIZATION'S EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE IN LIVE SPORTS AND ENTERTAINMENT SPACES.
WE ARE CONTINUING TO CONSIDER COMPETITION FROM OTHER EXISTING AND PROPOSED VENUES AS COMPARATORS.
IT DOES INCLUDE THINGS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF ELEVATE'S SCOPE, WHICH INCLUDES THE 2% OCCUPANCY TAX, THE SHORT TERM RENTAL FOR MOTOR VEHICLES, AND THE VENUE TAX FOR PLAYERS.
SO THAT IS ALL PART OF THAT ESTIMATE BETWEEN 700 AND 900.
WE BELIEVE THAT IS A VERY CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE. SO COUNCIL THE FINANCE PLAN.
SO WE WILL HAVE THE PLANNING FINANCE MODELS FROM JP MORGAN ACCOUNT FOR BOTH THE PRINCIPAL AND THE INTEREST PAYMENTS FOR THE BOND FINANCING. THEY'RE CURRENTLY ANTICIPATED TO BE ISSUED IN EARLY 2028 IF THE PROJECT PROCEEDS AND THE INTEREST RATE WILL RETURN BY THE MARKET CONDITIONS AT THE TIME OF ISSUANCE.
THE FINANCING DOCUMENTS, BOND DOCUMENTS THEY ALL WILL ESTABLISH THE SPECIFIC REVENUES WILL BE PLEDGED FOR THE REPAYMENT OF THE BONDS ISSUED WITH THE FINANCE PROJECT, AND THE PLANNING DOCUMENTS WILL ALL BE COMPLETED ONCE THE FUNDING SOURCES ARE APPROVED AND AUTHORIZED. SO I'M GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH A FEW Q&A QUESTIONS THAT THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE HAS HAS SENT TO US THAT ARE KIND OF RECURRING QUESTIONS FOR THE CITIZENS, ONE OF WHICH IS BEING DOES THIS BALLOT PRESENT TWO DIFFERENT QUESTIONS TO MOVE FORWARD THE STARS PROJECT AND TO APPROVE THE TAXES? OR IS THIS ONE QUESTION? WE HAVE OUR ANSWER IS THAT UNDER CHAPTER 334, THE CITY MUST IDENTIFY A SPECIFIC VENUE PROJECT IN ORDER TO SEEK VOTER AUTHORIZATION.
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SO THE CITY COULDN'T JUST GO OUT AND SAY, HEY, WE WANT IT TO LOOK AT NEW TAXES FOR CAR RENTALS OR FOR HOT TAX, IT HAS TO BE TIED TO A SPECIFIC PROJECT. AND SO FOR THE AUTHORIZATION, THESE TAXES, A PROJECT HAS TO BE DESIGNATED AS PART OF THE VENUE TAX.THIS ALSO DOES LIMIT US. IF, FOR EXAMPLE, IF IF THERE WERE TO BE ANOTHER VENUE HERE IN THE CITY OR WE WERE TO LOOK AT TAXES FOR THE PLANO EVENT CENTER, WE COULD NOT DO THAT BECAUSE STATE AUTHORIZED THESE TAXES FOR THIS SPECIFIC VENUE ITSELF.
IF PROPOSITION A, THE PROPERTY TAX INCREASE AND OUR ANSWER IS VENUE TAXES ARE LINKED SOLELY TO ACTIVITIES IDENTIFIED IN PROPOSITION A, MEANING THAT ONLY PARTICIPANTS OF THOSE ACTIVITIES WOULD PAY THE TAX. AS A PROPOSITION A IS NOT A PROPERTY TAX INCREASE FOR ALL PLANO RESIDENTS.
IF THIS IS NOT A TAX INCREASE, WHY DOES PROPOSITION SAY THIS IS A TAX INCREASE? THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST COMMON QUESTIONS WE ARE RECEIVING. AND LOOKING AT THE SAMPLE BALLOT I'M SURE OUR OUR COLLEAGUES AT COLLIN COUNTY AND COLLIN COLLEGE ARE SEEING THE SAME THING, BECAUSE THEY BOTH HAVE PROPOSITIONS FOR PROJECTS THAT SAY, THIS IS A TAX INCREASE.
THIS IS A STATE LAW THAT IS REQUIRED FOR THE BALLOT.
IS THE CITY'S FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTION CAPPED AT 700 MILLION OR ARE WE LOOKING IN TERMS OF OTHER TRAFFIC AND INFRASTRUCTURE SITE WORK REQUIRED? OUR FINANCIAL COMMITMENT IS TOWARD THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE ARENA IS CAPPED AT 700 MILLION. THE COST FOR OFF SITE INFRASTRUCTURE AND TRAFFIC MITIGATION IS SUBJECT TO ONGOING DISCUSSIONS AND NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE DEVELOPER AND THE TEAM.
WHO PAYS FOR THE EVENT? TRAFFIC CONTROL. SECURITY INCLUDING POLICE, FIRE, STARS, ARENA GAME.
THE CITY'S INTENT THE TEAM WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THESE SECURITY COSTS.
AND WHO PAYS THE ARENA'S ONGOING OPERATION COSTS FOR ELECTRIC WATER GAS, TRASH CLEANING.
IF BONDS ARE PAID OFF EARLY, WOULD THAT ALLOW THE CITY TO END THE TIRZ EARLY BEFORE 41 YEARS? YES. IF BONDS ARE PAID OFF EARLY, THE CITY COULD AT THAT TIME HAVE THE ABILITY TO ADJUST THE TIRZ STRUCTURE.
A FINAL MASTER AGREEMENT WILL STILL HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED BEFORE CITY COUNCIL, BUT FOR THE PROJECT TO SUCCEED, TO PROCEED. AND LASTLY, I'M GOING TO ACTUALLY ASK OUR BOND COUNSEL HERE, GREG.
THIS IS ONE THAT'S COME UP QUITE A BIT. AND HE EXPLAINS THIS MUCH BETTER BEING FROM BOND COUNSEL.
HELLO. GREG SCHAECHER WITH MCCALL, PARKHURST AND HORTON, THE CITY'S BOND COUNSEL.
THE CITY WOULD BE CONSIDERING THE BONDS TO BE ISSUED TO BE PAYABLE OUT OF THE TIRZ REVENUES AND OR THE VENUE TAX REVENUES AND POTENTIALLY THE PFC REVENUES AS WELL. SO THESE BONDS WOULD NOT BE GENERAL OBLIGATIONS OF THE CITY.
THEY'D BE OF THE SAME NATURE AS THE CITY'S DRAINAGE UTILITY SYSTEM, REVENUE BONDS THAT YOU ALL ISSUE, OR YOUR WATER AND SEWER SYSTEM REVENUE BONDS, AND THAT THE BONDS ARE PAYABLE ONLY OUT OF THE REVENUES SPECIFICALLY PLEDGED TO THE BONDS. SO THEY'RE CONSIDERED WHAT THE INDUSTRY CALLS SPECIAL OBLIGATIONS, NOT GENERAL OBLIGATIONS OF THE CITY AND THE TIRZ STATUTES AND THE, THE VENUE PROJECT STATUTES, BOTH OF THEM SPECIFICALLY PROVIDE THAT THOSE TYPES OF BONDS ARE NOT GENERAL OBLIGATIONS OF THE CITY.
THEY'RE NOT A CHARGE AGAINST THE CREDIT OR THE GENERAL TAXES OF THE CITY.
AND THEN COUNCIL, JUST AS A REMINDER, THE NEW TAXES, EARLY VOTING STARTS OCTOBER 19TH.
ELECTION DAY IS NOVEMBER 3RD. POLLING LOCATIONS AND HOURS.
YOU CAN VISIT THE TWO WEBSITES HERE FOR BOTH COLLIN COUNTY AND DENTON COUNTY.
WITH THAT COUNCIL, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND WE HAVE OUR TEAM HERE.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO THE FINANCING.
COUNCIL MEMBER KEHR. I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
ANY THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT? SO WE HAVE APPROACHED THE COUNTY.
THAT'S A POLICY DECISION THAT WAS MADE WITHIN THE LAST TWO MONTHS.
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OKAY. AND WHEN IT COMES TO POTENTIAL FUNDING FROM THE STATE, THAT'S THE THING YOU'RE MENTIONING JUST NOW, RIGHT? YES, SIR. SO THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THERE THAT REQUIRES LEGISLATIVE ACTION? YES, SIR. THIS TOOL IS REALLY DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY FOR PROJECTS OF THIS SIZE.OKAY. I'M CURIOUS WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT COMPARISON VENUES WHERE WE TOOK OUT ARLINGTON FOR SOME OF THE THINGS LIKE RELATING TO THE RESIDENTS AND THEIR VALUES, ARE WE CONSISTENT WITH THE VENUES WE'RE COMPARING WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT ASPECTS, WHETHER IT'S TRAFFIC REVENUE AND ALL THOSE SORTS OF THINGS? I WOULD SAY COUNCILMAN, WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL OF THESE EVENTS FOR DIFFERENT ELEMENTS.
SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WHAT TOOLS ARE USED, HOW TRAFFIC IS MANAGED, THINGS LIKE THAT.
WE HAVE LOOKED AT ARLINGTON AND WE ACTUALLY SPENT AN AFTERNOON WITH OUR STAFF LOOKING AT THAT.
SO WE DO LOOK AT AT SOME OTHER ELEMENTS. SO WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT WHO'S USING, WHICH TAXES. HOW THESE THINGS ARE MANAGED. WE WILL LOOK AT ANYBODY THAT CAN CONTRIBUTE AND PROVIDE US COMPARABLE INFORMATION.
SO IT VARIES FROM ISSUE TO ISSUE. AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY HAVING ELEVATE AS OUR CONSULTANT, THEY'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT IT BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT THEY DO IS LOOKING AT ARENAS AND REVENUES. SO THEY WILL LOOK AT IT SPECIFICALLY FROM A HOCKEY PERSPECTIVE.
MY LAST QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH THE VOTE WE'RE HAVING IN NOVEMBER.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT TAXATION ITEMS ON THERE, LIKE TICKET TAXES.
DO WE HAVE THE OPTION. THERE'S A VALUE SET IN THERE.
I GUESS THAT'S A MAXIMUM VALUE. DO WE ON COUNCIL HAVE AN OPTION OF SETTING THE VALUE FOR THE TICKET OR SHORT TERM MOTOR VEHICLE ETCETERA? YES, SIR. SO THESE TICKETS, IF THEY'RE AUTHORIZED BY THE VOTERS, WILL COME BACK BEFORE YOU.
AND THEN YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO EITHER ENACT THE TAXES OR ENACT THEM AT A LOWER PERCENTAGE.
IT MAY ACTUALLY IMPACT OUR RESIDENTS AS OPPOSED TO THE CONCERT GOER OR THE GAMES.
THAT'S SOMETHING I KNOW OF ELEVATE IS LOOKING A LITTLE BIT ON SOME OF THE VENUE RELATED TAXES, THE VENUE, THE PARKING ITSELF, BUT IF THERE ARE OTHER TAXES YOU'D LIKE US TO TAKE A LOOK AT. WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT.
YEAH, I THINK WE HAVE SOMETHING TODAY WE'RE LOOKING AT REGARDING THIS.
IS THAT RIGHT FROM THE SHORT TERM MOTOR VEHICLE TAX, OR IS THAT.
THAT'S JUST ONE OF THE ONE OF THE COLLECTIVE GROUP THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AT THIS POINT.
BUT YOU DID RECEIVE AN EMAIL TODAY REGARDING SOME OF THAT.
EXCELLENT. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. YEAH. COUNCIL MEMBER DOWNS.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. DCM MCDONALD. COUNCIL MEMBER KEHR HAD ALREADY ASKED MY QUESTION.
IT HAD TO DO WITH THE THE TAXATION OF THE MOTOR VEHICLES FOR RENTALS AND OUR OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THAT AND DECIDE IF THIS PASSED WITH THE VOTERS, COULD WE DECIDE THAT WE WEREN'T GOING TO ENACT THAT TAX IF WE FELT THAT IT WOULD BE AN ADVERSE IMPACT ON PLANO RESIDENTS WHO MIGHT NEED TO RENT CARS BECAUSE THEIR CARS ARE IN THE SHOPS. YES, MA'AM. THE COUNCIL WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO ENACT ANY OF THOSE TAXES.
IF THE VOTERS AUTHORIZE THEM. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER LAVINE.
THANK YOU MAYOR. DOUG, I SAW IN THE THE NOTES HERE THAT THE VENUE TAXES COULD RAISE UP TO $700 MILLION. WAS THAT CORRECT. YES SIR.
AND COLLECTIVELY. COLLECTIVELY. COLLECTIVELY OVER.
AND THE TIRZ COULD RAISE APPROXIMATELY. THE ESTIMATES WE SHOW IS 1.6 BILLION OVER THAT THAT 41 YEAR TIME FRAME. AND IF THE ELECTION PASSES THOSE TWO WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO PAY OFF THE 700 MILLION. OUR FINANCIAL MODELING IS SHOWING OF HOW THOSE TWO SOURCES CAN FUND THE DEBT AND THE COMMITMENT FROM THE CITY SIDE. HOWEVER, WE ALSO WILL LOOK AT OTHER TOOLS.
WE KNOW THE MARKET HAS ITS UPS AND DOWNS TOO.
SO THAT'S WHY THE OTHER THE PROJECT FINANCE ZONE IS ALSO AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF THIS IS TO CONTINUE TO FIND OTHER RESOURCES, OTHER AVENUES TO CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CONTRIBUTION FROM THE CITY SIDE IS SUPPORTED AND CAN WORK ON THE FINANCING SIDE. AND FOLLOWING ON THAT, THE PARKING TAX IS A KEY REVENUE SOURCE, AND
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IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE TO OUR ADVANTAGE TO HAVE AS MANY PARKING SPACES AS POSSIBLE SO THAT WE CAN CHARGE THAT TAX ON PARKING AT THE VENUE. SO ARE WE ENCOURAGING THAT AS OPPOSED TO HAVING OFFSITE PARKING? YES, SIR. I THINK HAVING AS MUCH PARKING ON THE SITE IS, AND BE ABLE TO PARK FOR ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF USES IS SOMETHING THAT BOTH CITY MANAGER AND I HAVE EXPRESSED A LOT WITH THE DEVELOPER YOU KNOW, THERE ARE BENEFITS TO HAVING THE PARKING A LITTLE BIT MORE DISPERSED IN TERMS OF EVERYONE COMING TO ONE LOCATION. MAYBE IT'S THE SOUTH WHERE THERE'S MORE THE BUSINESS SIDE AND FURTHER AWAY FROM THE RESIDENTS. HOWEVER, YOU'RE RIGHT, WE WILL ONLY BE ABLE TO CHARGE THE PARKING WITH THIS TAX THAT ARE ON THE SITE ITSELF.THE 5000 NUMBER WE HAVE USED IS A VERY CONSERVATIVE NUMBER.
WE WANTED TO BE AS CONSERVATIVE AS POSSIBLE. WE KNOW THERE WILL BE MORE PARKING SPACES ON THE SITE THAN 5000. OKAY AND FINALLY THE HOTEL TAX WOULD BE FOR ALL HOTELS IN PLANO? YES, SIR. OKAY. SO IT'S NOT JUST WITHIN THE TOURIST AREA.
BUT IT COVERS THE LAND AREA OF PLANO. YES, SIR.
THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS. GOING BACK TO, THANK YOU, MAYOR MUNS GOING BACK TO SLIDE 46.
IT SAYS THAT THE INTENT IS THAT THE TEAM WILL BE RESPONSIBLE.
IS THAT BECAUSE THEY WILL BE THE TENANTS OF THIS ARENA? THEY WOULD AND THAT WOULD ALSO BE PASSED OFF OF ANYONE WHO'S USING THE VENUE.
FOR EXAMPLE, IF THERE'S A CONCERT, THE CONCERT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO THAT TO PAY THOSE THOSE FEES.
THE CITY IT'S A COST TO THE TEAM OR TO THE OPERATOR THAT EVENING.
THANK YOU. OKAY, THANK YOU, DOUG. NEXT ITEM IS PUBLIC SAFETY UPDATE.
GOOD EVENING, THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME SPEAK ABOUT THIS.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID WHENEVER WE FIRST FOUND OUT THAT THE STARS COULD POTENTIALLY BE COMING TO PLANO IS, WE STARTED TO REACH OUT TO OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE HAVE SPORTS FRANCHISES AND JUST TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT WHAT THEIR EMERGENCY RESPONSE, THEIR STAFFING LOOKS LIKE FOR THOSE. AND SO THEN WE WENT OVER AND SPENT THE DAY OVER IN ARLINGTON, JUST KIND OF WALKING THROUGH THAT WITH THEM ON HOW THEY HANDLE DIFFERENT EVENTS.
AND SO, IN DOING THAT, WE LOOKED AT THAT AND WE ALSO KIND OF TRIED TO LOOK AT THAT AREA OVER THERE, AND TO TRY TO DETERMINE WHAT OUR RESPONSE LOOKS LIKE, WHAT THE NUMBER OF CALLS WE MAKE LOOK LIKE.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THAT FIRST SLIDE THERE, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE PUT A STAR THERE ABOUT WHERE WE THOUGHT THE ARENA AREA WOULD BE, AND THEN WENT OUT ABOUT HALF A MILE AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 343 EMERGENCY CALLS IN THAT AREA SO FAR THIS YEAR.
AND THAT'S ABOUT 1.4% OF OUR OF OUR TOTAL CALL VOLUME.
YOU SEE STATION 5 IN THE PINK OR RED AREA, THAT'S THEIR DISTRICT.
AND SO IT ALLOWS YOU TO COME FROM TWO DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS IN AN EMERGENCY RESPONSE LIKE THAT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ALWAYS LOOK AT PROBABLY SPEND THE MOST OF OUR TIME MEASURING.
AND THAT IS OUR RESPONSE TIMES BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT'S A BIG DEAL TO THE CITIZENS.
WE KNOW THAT AFFECTS THE CARE WE'RE ABLE TO GIVE ON THOSE CALLS.
AND SO THAT AREA, THAT SAME AREA THAT'S HALF A MILE RADIUS AROUND THERE.
THE AVERAGE RESPONSE TIME THERE IS ABOUT 6 MINUTES AND 15 SECONDS.
SO IT'S AS FAR AWAY FROM THE TWO STATIONS IN THOSE TWO DISTRICTS AS YOU CAN GET.
AND SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE A LITTLE BIT LONGER RESPONSE TIME THERE.
SO WHEN WE TALKED TO ARLINGTON, WE WENT OVER TO ARLINGTON.
WE KIND OF YOU CAN SEE THE RED WHERE WE OUTLINED THERE.
THERE IS NOTHING SCIENTIFIC ABOUT THAT. THAT'S JUST A RED LINE AROUND THERE. JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT WE TALKED TO THEM ABOUT, REALLY TALKED TO THEM ABOUT TWO THINGS IN THERE.
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AND THEN SOME OF THE BUSINESSES RIGHT AROUND THAT.AND THEY TRY TO TREAT THAT LIKE A SEPARATE DISTRICT.
IN OTHER WORDS, THEY PUT THEY PUT ENOUGH RESOURCES IN THERE WHERE THEY CAN HANDLE EMERGENCY CALLS, WHETHER IT'S A EMS CALL OR A RESCUE, SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT.
THEY PUT THOSE IN THERE. THEY ALSO HAVE A COMMAND STRUCTURE SET UP IN THERE.
ALL OF THAT SET UP AS IF IT'S A SEPARATE DISTRICT.
AND THEY TREAT THAT THAT DISTRICT WHERE THE EVENT IS SEPARATELY.
AND SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY DID.
YOU'D HAVE A COMMAND POST THERE. AND YOU WOULD HAVE OBVIOUSLY FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDICS STAFFING ALL OF THOSE, DURING THAT TIME WITH THE INTENT, AND ALSO KIND OF A CLINIC TYPE SITUATION THERE TOO.
I'LL GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THEY TOLD ME FOR THE AT&T STADIUM.
THEY SAID THEY HAVE ABOUT USUALLY HAVE ABOUT 50 CALLS FOR SERVICE INSIDE THAT AREA.
AND THEY'LL MAKE ABOUT SEVEN TRANSPORTS BY AMBULANCE OUT OF THERE IN A WEEK.
AND THAT'S MUCH LARGER, A LOT MORE PEOPLE THERE.
SO, YOU CAN KIND OF SCALE THAT DOWN TO WHAT YOU PROBABLY BE LOOKING AT THERE.
THE LAST THING I ASKED THEM, I SAID, WHAT ABOUT THE AREAS SURROUNDING THAT? HOW DO YOU RESPOND WITH THE TRAFFIC? WHAT'S YOUR PLAN FOR THAT? AND THEY SAID WHAT THEY DID WAS THEY DEVELOPED AN EMERGENCY TRAFFIC PLAN AND I'M GOING TO LOOK DOWN SO I CAN READ EXACTLY WHAT THEY SAID.
BUT THEY SAID THEY HAD PRE-ESTABLISHED EMERGENCY LANES, COORDINATED TRAFFIC CONTROL POINTS, AND THEN THE UNIFIED COMMAND WORKING AT THAT POINT TO MAKE SURE AND I ASK, I SAID, WERE YOU ALL ABLE TO KEEP YOUR SAME RESPONSE TIMES FROM THE STATIONS AROUND THERE IN THOSE DISTRICTS? AND THEY SAID THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO WITH THAT PLAN.
SO I'LL STOP TALKING THERE AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING.
YES. THANKS, CHIEF. APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION.
ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD WAS WITH REGARDS TO EQUIPMENT APPARATUS THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY WITH THIS LARGE STRUCTURE, DO YOU ENVISION THAT WE MAY HAVE TO NEED TO PURCHASE A SPECIAL LADDER TRUCK, LET'S SAY, OR SOMETHING, BECAUSE OF THE SHEER SCOPE OR SIZE OF THIS SINGLE ENCLOSED STADIUM OR ARENA, DO YOU THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO THINK ABOUT PURCHASING ONE OF THOSE IN THE FUTURE? I DON'T, RIGHT NOW THE LADDER TRUCKS THAT WE HAVE ARE ABOUT AS LARGE AS LADDER TRUCKS AS YOU CAN GET.
MOST OF THEM ARE 105 TO 100 AND I THINK 8 OR 9FT TALL.
THERE WILL BE SOME NEED PROBABLY FOR A COUPLE OF CARTS THAT YOU USE TO RESPOND.
AND LIKE YOU SEE AT BALLOON FEST, YOU SEE US OPERATING OUT OF THERE, SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT.
BUT I DON'T SEE ANY SIGNIFICANT EQUIPMENT PURCHASE THAT WOULD GO ALONG WITH IT.
THANKS, CHIEF. YES, SIR. SO CHIEF, I JUST NEED SOME CLARIFICATION.
SO YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT WHEN YOU WENT AND VISITED ARLINGTON, THAT THEY HAVE LIKE A DEDICATED I GUESS FIRE STATION, WHICH INSIDE THE ARENA.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING THAT WE LOOK INTO OR? NO, THEY DON'T HAVE A DEDICATED FIRE STATION THERE.
THEY'LL KEEP THEIR EQUIPMENT ON SITE AND THEN THEY'LL STAFF IT DURING THE EVENTS.
BUT I DON'T THINK WE WOULD NEED TO DO ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THAT.
THEY WHAT I WAS, I GUESS WHAT I WAS MORE TRYING TO SAY IS YOU STAFF IT WITH ENOUGH RESOURCES TO WHERE YOU CAN HANDLE ANYTHING WITHIN THAT AREA. AND THAT WAY YOU FREE UP YOUR NORMAL STATIONS THAT ARE OPERATING OUT THERE, NOT TO BE AFFECTED BY THE EVENTS THAT ARE GOING ON.
YES. SO ARE YOU GOING, ARE YOU PROPOSING LIKE MAYBE HAVING A DEDICATED SITE ON ON THAT LOCATION IN WHICH, YOU KNOW, WHERE, WHEN WE NEED A MAN, THE STATION PEOPLE COULD JUST COME IN AND BE ABLE TO WORK IMMEDIATELY.
WHAT THEY HAVE OVER THERE, AND IT LOOKS LIKE A GOOD SYSTEM, BUT THEY HAVE THE CARTS AND THEY'LL STAGE THEM ALL OVER THE PLACE, MAYBE SOME OUTSIDE AND THEN THE REST OF THEM WILL MAYBE THE DIFFERENT LEVELS, BUT ALSO THEY'LL,
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THEY HAVE A CLINIC INSIDE THAT THEY'LL STAFF THAT WAY YOU CAN RESPOND, BRING PEOPLE TO THAT CLINIC IN THERE.AND SO IT'S NOT USUALLY A NECESSARILY A FIXED SITE.
YOU WILL HAVE A COMMAND THAT'S IN THERE UNIFIED WITH POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND THEY'LL RECEIVE THE CALLS, AND THEN THEY'LL DISPATCH THEM TO THE DIFFERENT PLACES IN THERE. SO YOU'RE ENVISIONING LIKE A MOBILE SITE. YES.
YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT, THANKS. COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS.
THANK YOU, MAYOR MUNS. THANK YOU, CHIEF BIGGERSTAFF, FOR BEING HERE.
WHEN YOU FIRST APPROACHED US AND YOU EXPLAINED THAT YOU, I GUESS, SPOKE WITH OTHER CITIES REGARDING THEIR PLANS, THEIR EMERGENCY PLANS.
YES, MA'AM. HAVE YOU GUYS TAKEN A LOOK AT THE CITIES THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY? AND THE REASON WHY I ASKED, HAVE YOU APPROACHED THEM BECAUSE THEY HAVE SOME OF THE SAME CHARACTERISTICS THAT WE MAY HAVE? WE DIDN'T. WE TRIED TO PICK ONE. WE PICKED ARLINGTON, ONE BECAUSE WE KNEW WE COULD ACTUALLY GO OVER THERE AND VISIT THERE.
WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE TRAINING FACILITY THEY HAVE IN FRISCO.
SPOKE WITH DALLAS BECAUSE, I MEAN, THEY'RE OPERATING THERE NOW.
SO WE FELT LIKE YOU COULD GET A PRETTY GOOD COMPARISON THERE.
AND THEN WE TALKED TO LAS VEGAS BECAUSE THEY WERE ONE OF THE MORE RECENT ARENAS THAT HAD BEEN BUILT.
SO THOSE WERE THE ONES THAT WE'VE SPOKEN WITH SO FAR BECAUSE WE WERE MORE FOCUSED ON WHAT KIND OF OPERATIONS PLAN, WHAT KIND OF STAFFING ARE WE LOOKING AT? SO WE WERE TRYING TO PICK SOME THINGS THAT, THAT WE FELT LIKE WOULD CLOSEST MIRROR WHAT WE WERE DOING.
I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT WE SPEAK WITH THE CITIES THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY AND TALKED ABOUT WITH THE COMMITTEE THAT WAS FORMED, BECAUSE THEY MAY BE ABLE TO GIVE US SOME GOOD IDEAS AS TO HOW THEIR EMERGENCY PLANS ARE LAID OUT.
OKAY. AND IT MAY ALSO KEEP CONSISTENT DATA AS WELL.
SURE. OKAY. THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR. THANK YOU, MAYOR.
MINE'S NOT NECESSARILY QUESTIONS BUT MORE OF A COMMENT.
I WAS WRITING ALL THESE QUESTIONS FOR YOU AND GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS, BUT AS I WAS WRITING THEM DOWN, YOU KEPT ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION, MY QUESTIONS. AND THEN AT ONE POINT I JUST DROPPED MY PEN. SO YOUR PRESENTATION WAS THE TYPE OF PRESENTATIONS I'D LIKE TO LISTEN TO. BECAUSE THEN REFRAINS ME FROM HAVING TO ASK THE QUESTION. SO THANK YOU.
AND ACTUALLY, HONESTLY, JUST THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT PART OF THE JOB.
IT'S JUST A COMMENT. THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT. COUNCIL MEMBER KEHR.
CHIEF, YOU ALREADY ADDRESSED IT, BUT I'D LIKE YOU TO REITERATE IT ONE MORE TIME. WHEN IT COMES TO TRAFFIC, LET'S SAY THE STADIUM, THE ARENA IS IS EVERYBODY SHOWING UP FOR IT? AND THEN YOU HAVE AN EMERGENCY CALL. HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU GET IN? HOW DO YOU GET OUT TO TAKE CARE OF IT? BECAUSE THAT'S SOME OF THE CONCERNS FROM THE RESIDENTS, PARTICULARLY NOT NECESSARILY HAPPENING AT THE ARENA. MAYBE THERE'S A RESIDENCE NEARBY IN WHICH THERE'S A PROBLEM, RIGHT? NO, YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT.
THAT WAS THAT WAS ONE OF MY BIGGEST THOUGHTS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THAT'S ALL THE TIME.
WHAT WE LOOK AT IS WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR RESPONSE TIMES.
AND MR. ISRAELSON KNOWS THIS BECAUSE WE MEET WITH HIM ALL THE TIME TALKING ABOUT ABOUT THAT.
WHEN YOUR STATIONS THAT ARE AROUND IT ARE RESPONDING, HOW DO THEY GET THERE IN THAT TIME? AND HE SAID, THEY HAVE DEDICATED LANES THAT ARE THAT ARE FOR EMERGENCY APPARATUS.
AND THEY ALSO HAVE HAVE DIFFERENT PLANS TO GET TO THOSE PLACES DURING THAT TIME.
AND SO YOU SHARE THAT WITH THE SURROUNDING STATIONS SO THAT THEY'RE FAMILIAR ALREADY WITH WHAT THOSE PLANS ARE. PLUS, YOU HAVE COMMAND THAT'S WORKING IN THERE. SO IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING OUT OF THE ORDINARY GOING ON, WHICH YOU COULD OBVIOUSLY THE AND THEY'RE WILLING, THEY'RE ABLE TO SHARE THAT SAME INFORMATION THERE WITH US.
SO THAT'S, HOW I WOULD PICTURE IT. I WOULD PICTURE DEVELOPING THAT IN THE EMERGENCY PLAN, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WHO OBVIOUSLY HAVE A LOT MORE EXPERIENCE IN DEVELOPING A PLAN LIKE THAT THAN WE DO, BUT WORKING WITH THEM AND KIND OF JUST, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, COMPARING OTHER CITIES TO HOW THEY WERE ABLE TO MANAGE THAT, THAT PIECE OF IT. DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ABOUT SOMETHING MORE SIGNIFICANT HAPPENED IN WHICH THERE'S A LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO ARE INJURED.
HOW DO YOU TAKE CARE OF THAT? WE HAVE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE SOPS FOR MULTI CASUALTY INCIDENTS OR ACTIVE SHOOTER INCIDENTS THAT ARE REALLY DESIGNED FOR, THAT PURPOSE.
WE DO A DRILL WITH WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT EACH YEAR AND GO THROUGH EVENTS LIKE THAT.
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HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU YOU KNOW, HOW MANY RESOURCES DOES IT TAKE? WHAT DOES THAT PART LOOK LIKE? SO, SO WE DO PRACTICE FOR THOSE, FOR THOSE.YOU WOULD YOU WOULD KNOW WHAT THE FACILITY LOOKED LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE RESPONSE LOOKED LIKE. AND YOU WOULD JUST TRAIN FOR THOSE, SPECIFIC EVENTS. AT THAT FACILITY. I KNOW THAT DURING THE BALLOON FEST THAT YOU BRING IN RESOURCES FROM NEIGHBORING CITIES AS WELL.
IS THAT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US HERE IN THIS SITUATION? THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SIDE BECAUSE FOR US, THE, THE NUMBER OF PERSONNEL, THE STAFFING THERE AND THE APPARATUS THAT WE BE THERE WOULD BE PRETTY SMALL COMPARED TO WHAT THE FOOTPRINT I THINK THAT THE THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WOULD PROBABLY HAVE IN THAT CASE. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU CHIEF. YES, SIR. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU CHIEF. YES. THANK YOU. WELCOME, CHIEF.
HELLO, MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL. YOU KNOW, WITH THIS ARENA COMING AND THIS BEING A MIXED USE ENVIRONMENT, WE HAVE TWO THINGS WE HAVE TO LOOK AT FROM THE POLICE PART.
TYPICALLY WHEN WE HAVE A MIXED USE ENVIRONMENT.
WE PUT A WHAT WE CALL A STOREFRONT LOCATION UP THERE.
WE DON'T KNOW HOW BIG, HOW DEEP, HOW WIDE THIS IS. SO WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE IF WE'RE GOING TO NEED ANYTHING LIKE THAT. BUT THIS JUST KIND OF GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF, I THINK WHAT WE'RE TALKING 90 ACRES FOR THIS FOR THIS AREA HERE.
AND JUST SOME OF WHAT WE HAVE AT SOME OF OUR OTHER MIXED USE ENVIRONMENTS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, AND I'LL SHOW YOU MY RESPONSE TIME NUMBERS HERE IN A MINUTE, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WE THINK IS GOING TO HELP WITH OUR RESPONSE TIME IS GETTING THERE IS OUR DRONE AS A FIRST RESPONDER. I BRIEFED THE COUNCIL ON THAT A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO. SO WE SHOULD BE MAYBE THIS MONTH OR WITHIN THE NEXT THREE TO 4 OR 5, SIX WEEKS SHOULD HAVE OUR DFR PROGRAM UP AND RUNNING.
AND THAT'S GOING TO HELP US GET EYES ON TO THAT, THAT AREA PRETTY QUICKLY.
WE HAVE SET RESPONSE TIMES FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF CALLS.
SO PRIORITY ONE CALL IS A CRIME IN THAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
SOMEONE IS TRYING TO BREAK INTO YOUR HOUSE OR SOMEONE IS IN A FIGHT OR WHATEVER.
AND THEN OUR GOAL IS TO GET THERE IN UNDER FIVE MINUTES.
LAST YEAR WE WERE AT 4.43. WE'RE ACTUALLY IN THREE MINUTES AND SOME CHANGE SO FAR THIS YEAR IN 2026.
AND THEN FOR ALL OTHER CALLS FOR SERVICE, REGARDLESS OF WHAT IT IS.
OUR GOAL IS TO GET THERE IN UNDER EIGHT MINUTES. AND OF COURSE WE'RE UNDER THAT AS WELL.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET TO EVERY CALL. OF COURSE, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THE AGGREGATE OF OUR CALLS IN A MONTH AND A QUARTER IN A YEAR, AND IT IS TYPICALLY GOING TO BE BELOW FIVE MINUTES AND EIGHT MINUTES FOR THOSE TYPES OF CALLS.
AND SO WE'VE GOT A LOT TO LOOK AT WITH THIS, BUT WE HAVE NOT WE DON'T HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE WITH AN INDOOR ARENA, PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL OR PROFESSIONAL HOCKEY TEAM, OF COURSE, BUT WE DO HAVE FOOTBALL GAMES.
AND SO OUR CLARK STADIUM, 15,000 PEOPLE, ROUGHLY MAYBE 10 TO 20,000 PEOPLE WILL BE AT THIS EVENT.
SO THE TYPE OF TRAFFIC THAT THAT COMES WITH THIS EVENT, WE THINK THAT WE CAN HANDLE THAT BASED ON OUR EXPERIENCE WITH THAT, WITH THE FIREWORKS SHOW AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
AND BUT OUR KEY ON MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE READY FOR THIS IS OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS.
WE DO WE HAVE A FOUR YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN THAT WE UPDATE EVERY TWO YEARS.
WE'LL BE DOING THAT AGAIN HERE IN 2027. AND BY THEN WE WILL HAVE A BETTER IDEA, I THINK, OF WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SET AND READY TO GO WHEN THE STARS GET HERE. THANK YOU CHIEF.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR CHIEF? COUNCIL MEMBER LAVINE.
THANK YOU MAYOR. CHIEF WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS AND AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND YOU DON'T HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH WITH AN INDOOR ARENA, BUT ARE YOU ANTICIPATING ADDITIONAL STAFFING NECESSARY, OR WOULD THIS JUST BE A REDEPLOYMENT DURING THE GAME TIMES? WELL, IF WE SET UP A STOREFRONT LOCATION, WE WOULD USE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD POLICE OFFICERS, BUT THAT WOULD BE NOT SO MUCH RELATED TO EVENTS GOING ON AT THE ARENA.
IF THIS IS A MIXED USE ENVIRONMENT, AND BY THAT I MEAN THERE ARE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE THERE.
THERE ARE BARS OR RESTAURANTS THERE SHOPPING.
AND SO IF THIS IS A PLACE THAT IS JUST BUSY ON THE WEEKENDS, YOU KNOW, BUSY AT NIGHT ALL THE TIME, WE WOULD NEED ADDITIONAL RESOURCES TO HANDLE THAT TO PUT OFFICERS IN PLACE.
NOW ON THE, THE GAME NIGHTS AS, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER MCDOWELL MENTIONED AND, THE FIRE CHIEF,
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WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF RESOURCES TO HANDLE THIS, PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC CONTROL PLAN AND.BUT THOSE WOULD BE PAID FOR AND ALSO SECURITY INSIDE OF THE INSIDE OF THE ARENA.
BUT THAT WOULD BE PAID FOR BY WHOEVER IS PUTTING ON THE EVENT WOULD COVER THAT.
SO AND WE WOULD USE SECONDARY EMPLOYMENT. WE WOULD HAVE OFFICERS, OFF DUTY OFFICERS COMING IN TO WORK THAT AND THEY WOULD BE PAID FOR BY THE EVENT ORGANIZER. SO ANY OFFICERS ON DUTY OR BROUGHT IN FOR THAT PURPOSE WOULD BE PAID FOR BY WHOEVER IS SPONSORING THE EVENT. IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO ADD ADDITIONAL COST TO THE CITY. TYPICALLY. RIGHT. YES. AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE DETAILS ON THAT, BUT, BUT TYPICALLY THE SECURITY, TRAFFIC CONTROL, ALL OF THAT IS PAID FOR BY THE WHO'S EVER RUNNING THAT PARTICULAR EVENT GOING ON THE STARS OR WHO'S EVER RUNNING THE CONCERT. AND BACK TO THE STOREFRONT FOR A SECOND.
AND MAYBE THIS IS A QUESTION MARK FOR YOU IS, ARE WE LOOKING AT ANYTHING WITH THE DEVELOPER ON PROVIDING SPACE FOR THAT? SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AN EOC INSIDE THE STADIUM, A TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT CENTER INSIDE THE STADIUM.
THANK YOU. YEAH, WE'RE FAMILIAR WITH WHAT ARLINGTON HAVE, AND WE WOULD NEED SOME KIND OF OPERATIONS CENTER FOR POLICE, FIRE, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND POSSIBLY OTHERS WITH THE CITY.
AND THAT WOULD BE UP TO THAT WOULD NEED TO BE BUILT INTO THE FACILITY.
THANK YOU CHIEF. YES, MARIA. YEAH. IT'S A FOLLOW UP TO COUNCILMAN LAVINE.
QUESTION ACTUALLY YOU ANSWERED MOST OF MY QUESTIONS, BUT I'M STILL A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED.
SO AT THIS POINT WE ARE LOOKING AT ALL THE SECURITY BEING PAID FOR BY THE, THE OWNERS IN, IN WHEN THEY'RE HAVING GAMES IN, IN THE STARS ARENA, AM I? IF YOU USE OR USERS OF THE ARENA THAT PARTICULAR NIGHT.
SO EITHER HOCKEY OR CONCERTS. SO THE OFF DUTY OFFICERS WILL BE PAID BY THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE AT THE ARENA AND NOT BY THE CITY. RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT. SO AND THEN BUT THAT ALSO MEANS THAT ALL THE EXTERIOR PART OF THE TRAFFIC AND THE SECURITY WOULD BE MONITORED BY THE CITY.
RIGHT. I MEAN, SO I'M SORRY. WE WOULD HAVE A TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT CENTER THAT WE STAFF WITH CITY STAFF, ESPECIALLY THE FIRST COUPLE OF YEARS WORKING THAT. BUT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT DIRECTING TRAFFIC THAT WOULD STILL BE PAID FOR BY.
THE CITY? NO, BY WHO IS ACTUALLY RUNNING THE EVENT.
OF ALL THE POLICE, OF ALL THE THE FIRST RESPONDER AS WELL AS THE LAW ENFORCEMENT.
CORRECT. AND SO WHATEVER. AND THOSE PEOPLE WILL BE CONTRACTED DURING THAT EVENT.
CORRECT. WE WILL JUST HAVE OUR NORMAL OPERATIONS ARE STILL GOING TO BE ONGOING.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE WILL BE CONTINUING TO PROVIDE TO THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY.
BUT FOR THAT EVENT, WHATEVER IS NEEDED FOR THAT EVENT WILL BE PAID FOR BY THE EVENT.
OKAY. LIKE WHAT THE FIRE CHIEF SAID ABOUT ARLINGTON, HOW THEY LIKE TO KEEP IT CONTAINED.
YES. SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO BRING IN OTHER RESOURCES.
THAT'S WHAT WE LIKE TO DO AS WELL TOO. AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH THIS TYPE OF A VENUE, BUT WE DO WITH OTHER SPECIAL EVENTS. AND SO WE LIKE TO HAVE EVERYTHING WE NEED THERE SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO BRING REGULAR BEAT OFFICERS IN TO COME DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN MAYBE TRANSPORT SOMEONE WHO NEEDS TO GO TO JAIL. WELL, THAT'S THE THING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T REALLY DETAIL AND SPECIFIC AS TO WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT, WE END UP BEING ALL CONFUSED.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, AND PEOPLE START FINGER POINTING AS TO, WELL, YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS.
NO, YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE. SO I THINK THAT THAT'S THE PART THAT I'M ACTUALLY KIND OF CONCERNED ABOUT, BECAUSE IF WE ARE VERY SPECIFIC, THAT ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DEAL WITH THE EVENT IS PAID FOR BY THE EVENT PRODUCER, THEN THAT NEEDS TO BE, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IT IS.
I UNDERSTAND IT'LL BE IN THE AGREEMENT. THANK YOU CHIEF.
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ALL RIGHT. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, JUST QUICK NEXT STEPS.BUT THERE'S MULTIPLE WORK STREAMS KIND OF ADVANCING TOGETHER. SO THE SYNCHING IS VERY IMPORTANT.
SO WE'RE CONTINUING TO TO MOVE THESE THINGS FORWARD.
SO THAT WILL ACTUALLY HAVE AN IMPACT ON A NUMBER OF THESE WORK STREAMS AS WE'RE PROCEEDING ON. AND THEN ADDITIONAL DETAILS AGAIN, WILL CONTINUE TO BE REFINED, COMMUNICATE TO THE PUBLIC AS WELL AS, AS COSTS BECOME CLEARER AND SIGNS BECOME CLEARER ON THESE, WORK STREAMS. NEXT STEPS. WE DO HAVE AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING TOMORROW NIGHT, PUBLIC Q&A.
SO THE PUBLIC IS SENDING IN QUESTIONS, AND THE COMMITTEE WILL ASK THOSE QUESTIONS TO STAFF AND OUR CONSULTANTS, AS WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST IN THE PAST FEW COMMITTEE MEETINGS.
AGAIN, THIS IS ONE BECAUSE WE'VE MADE SOME ADDITIONS AND CHANGES BASED ON THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION DIRECTION, WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK ON THAT. BUT THAT WILL BE COMING BEFORE THE COMMITTEE, PROBABLY IN NOVEMBER.
AND THEN WE'LL HAVE ALL DOCUMENTS QUESTIONS POSTED ON THE WEBSITE.
DECEMBER 8TH WILL BE OUR NEXT CITY COUNCIL UPDATE FOR YOU ON THE PROJECT.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THE REMAINING PORTIONS OF THE PROJECT.
GO AHEAD. SORRY. JUST IT'S VERY SHORT. SO WHAT I MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT TRASH.
SO SOME OF THE COLLATERAL CONSEQUENCES OF PUTTING ON AN EVENT THAT I WOULD LIKE THAT CONCERN TO BE ADDRESSED, AS WELL AS PART OF THE COST OF THE EVENT PRODUCER SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST THE EVENT ITSELF, BUT ALL THE SURROUNDING AREAS IN WHICH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S PROPERTY DAMAGE, IF THERE'S TRASH COLLECTION THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S ANY YOU KNOW, DISORDERLY CONDUCT TYPE OF THINGS.
I THINK THOSE ALL SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE OF THE EVENT PRODUCER.
SO I LIKE THAT TO BE ADDED. OKAY. THANK YOU DOUG.
WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER, MR. LAGOS.
GOOD EVENING. CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY. GOOD EVENING.
MY NAME IS JACK LAGOS. THERE'S PROBABLY THE FIRST TIME I EVER CAME UP TO A PRELIMINARY HEARING, ALWAYS ON CITY COUNCIL. BUT SINCE THE RULES ALLOW, I CAN DO IT.
HERE I AM. FIRST OF ALL, I AM AGAINST PROPOSITION A.
I'M GOING TO VOTE AGAINST IT. I HOPE PEOPLE BEHIND ME VOTE AGAINST IT.
AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF REASONS WHY. FIRST OF ALL, I BELIEVE PROPOSITION A IS A TROJAN HORSE.
THE INTENT OF PROPOSITION A IS TO GET THE BONDS WITHIN THAT, AND HAVE THE PUBLIC VOTE FOR PROPOSITION A SO THAT YOU CAN CREATE BONDS BY THE GENTLEMAN THAT CAME UP THAT REPRESENTS THE BOND COMPANY.
IT'D BE A SPECIAL BOND SITUATION. I'D LIKE TO ALSO COMMEND MS. THOMAS AND MR. QUINTANILLA FOR WHAT THEY BROUGHT UP IN LOOKING OUT FOR THE CITIZENS.
MISS THOMAS VERY, VERY APTLY SAID, I'M LOOKING OUT FOR THE CITIZENS.
I HAVEN'T GOTTEN ALL THE INFORMATION BACK. MR. QUINTANILLA STUCK TO HIS GUNS ON, WHEN AM I GOING TO GET MY DATA POINTS? YOU FOLKS PUT THEM OFF AS BEST AS YOU COULD. FINALLY, SOMEBODY SAID OCTOBER 31ST.
IS THAT CORRECT, MR. QUINTANILLA? THAT OCTOBER 31ST IS WHEN YOU GET BACK RESPONSES TO YOU.
THAT'S WHAT I HEARD OUT HERE IN THE AUDIENCE.
AND THE REASON I BRING THAT UP. YEAH. MR. QUINTANILLA.
I CAN'T ALSO TELL YOU YOU HAVE ANOTHER PHASE COMING UP IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO IN NOVEMBER.
IN OTHER WORDS, YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO SAY TO THE VOTERS IF THEY ASK YOU QUESTIONS BECAUSE YOU'RE HEDGING ON THESE PRESENTATIONS THAT CAME UP HERE, BECAUSE THEY SAID TO YOU, OH, WE'LL BE BACK WITH YOU ON ITEM NUMBER TWO OR PHASE TWO OR WHATEVER THEY CALLED IT ON THE ACTUAL PROJECT, THE ELECTIONS ON NOVEMBER 3RD.
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I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR THAT THING, RIGHT? I'M NOT GOING TO PUT MYSELF IN HOCK WITH $700 MILLION IN BONDS. NOW, YOU FOLKS VOTED 8 TO 0 TO PUT US IN HOCK.I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR MYSELF TO NOT PUT MYSELF IN HOCK.
BUT YOU ALSO HAVE A SECOND CHANCE AS CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO CHANGE YOUR MINDS.
MR. LAVINE SAID VERY CLEARLY, WHAT HAPPENS IF IT DOESN'T PASS? I THINK HE SAID HE'S WELCOME TO SPEAK UP THAT YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO GO ON.
MR. LAGOS, YOUR TIME IS UP. OH, REALLY? THAT'S NOT NEWS TO ME.
I KNOW. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M WELL AWARE. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WE NEEDED THIS INFORMATION.
I'VE LIVED IN PLANO ALL MY LIFE. I LIVE IN WILLOW BEND AREA, AND ALL I'VE EVER WANTED TO DO IS TO MAKE PLANO THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND THE BEST PLACE TO LIVE IN ALL OF TEXAS AND BEYOND.
I THINK ALL OF THESE COUNCIL MEMBERS FEEL THE SAME EXACT WAY.
WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER IS DEVELOPED, IT WILL HAVE BEEN THAT IT'S OF THE HIGHEST QUALITY AND THAT IT IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL OF US TO ENJOY. SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE EXPERTS IN THEIR FIELD WERE ABLE TO COME UP AND EXPLAIN TO US THE AREAS OF FINANCE, TRAFFIC THAT HOME VALUES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO STUDY THESE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ON OCTOBER, I MEAN, NOVEMBER 3RD IS A VENUE TAX, WHICH IS FIVE ITEMS THAT ONLY BY USING THE ARENA WILL THEY EXPERIENCE THE NEED TO PAY FOR TICKETS, PARKING, HOTEL, MOTEL, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO BE CONFUSED THAT IT'S ANY MORE THAN THAT.
AND THAT'S WHAT IT IS. SO THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE.
AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO OUR HOMEWORK AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE TRYING TO CREATE A DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'D ALL BE PROUD OF.
SO THANK YOU. OUR NEXT ITEM IS CONSENT AND REGULAR AGENDAS.
WE'RE GOING TO SKIP AQUATIC CENTER UPDATE AND DO THAT HERE IN JUST A LITTLE WHILE.
MAYOR. CONSENT. YES. ITEM J WAS PULLED BY A CITIZEN.
ITEM J IS PULLED FOR A SPEAKER. ANY ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION AND FUTURE ITEMS. AGENDAS. OKAY. ITEM J A OR J.
J YES, WE'LL TAKE JUST ABOUT 3 OR 4 MINUTES RECESS AND BEGIN JUST RIGHT AT 07:00. THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.