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          I NOW DECLARE THAT THE PLANO CITY 
          [PRELIMINARY OPEN MEETING]
COUNCIL IS CONVENED INTO OPEN SESSION, THAT ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT. 
          THE COUNCIL WILL NOW RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND TRAINING ROOM A TO HOLD A CLOSED EXECUTIVE MEETING PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF VERNON'S TEXAS CODES ANNOTATED GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 551. 
          THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AUTHORITY CONTAINED IN SECTION 551071 TO CONSULT WITH THE ATTORNEY TO RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE AND DISCUSS LITIGATION. 
          SECTION 551087 TO DISCUSS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MATTERS AND SECTION 551074 TO DISCUSS PERSONNEL MATTERS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I NOW DECLARE THAT THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL PRELIMINARY OPEN MEETING IS RECONVENED IN OPEN SESSION, THAT ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT. 
          OUR FIRST ITEM ON THE PRELIMINARY AGENDA IS CONSIDERATION AND ACTION RESULTING FROM THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          OUR NEXT ITEM IS PERSONNEL APPOINTMENTS, UH, TAX INCREMENT FINANCING REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER FOUR, BOARD CHAIR. 
          MR. MAYOR, AT THIS POINT I MOVE TO APPOINT NADIA CHRISTIAN AS THE CHAIR FOR, UM, THE TERS NUMBER FOUR. 
          MR. MAYOR, I SECOND THAT. 
          OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, UH, FOR THE, UH, TAX INCREMENT FINANCING REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER FOUR, BOARD CHAIR. 
          ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND. 
          MOTION PASSES EIGHT TO ZERO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OUR NEXT ITEM IS THE WILLOWBEND DISTRICT UPDATE PRESENTATION. 
          CURTIS, WELCOME. 
          UH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, CURTIS HOWARD, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER. 
          UH, TONIGHT I'D LIKE TO TALK TO YOU AND GIVE YOU A, A SHORT OVERVIEW, UH, OF THE, UH, SHORT, UH, HISTORY OF THE WILLOWBEND REDEVELOPMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          UH, SO JUST A LITTLE BIT. 
          SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS COMMITTEE WAS TO CREATE KIND OF AN ORGANIZED METHOD OF PROVIDING A CONSTRUCTIVE AND SOLUTION ORIENTED PROCESS, UH, IN WHICH FEEDBACK CAN BE GATHERED FROM, UH, FROM THE COMMUNITY AND PROVIDED TO STAFF AND, AND, UH, OUR CONSULTANTS IN, IN THIS CASE, AND THEN ALSO AS A CONDUIT TO PROVIDE INFORMATION BACK TO THE, UH, TO, UH, THE COMMUNITY A- AS NEEDED. 
          UH, AND SO IN MID-AUGUST, WHAT WE DID IS WE, WE, UH, REACHED OUT TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, GROUPS, INCLUDING OUR HOAS AND, AND OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS LOOKING FOR VOLUNTEERS FOR THIS COMMITTEE. 
          UH, FROM THAT LIST, FROM THE, FROM THE REQUEST, UH, WE PUT TOGETHER A LIST AND, UH, THAT WENT TO THIS COUNCIL AND ON, UH, AUGUST 24TH, YOU CAME UP WITH THE, UH, 10 MEMBER AD HOC COMMITTEE. 
          UH, UH, AT THAT POINT, UH, WHAT WERE THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE AS YOU'VE SEEN? SO WE HAVE HAD SIX MEETINGS SO FAR IN WHICH THE, UH, COMMITTEE MEMBERS WERE ABLE TO GATHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMUNITY, PROVIDE, UH, OR ASK THOSE QUESTIONS TO CONSULTANTS AND STAFF WHO HAVE INFORMATION, UH, ON SOME OF THOSE HOT BUTTON ISSUES THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, AND THEN ALSO TAKE THAT INFORMATION BACK AND PROVIDE IT TO, TO THEIR COMMUNITY. 
          UH, WE HAVE ONE SCHEDULED MEETING LEFT FOR TOMORROW NIGHT, AND THAT IS GONNA BE WHAT WE'VE DONE IS, UH, WE'VE CREATED A PUBLIC, UH, ONLINE SURVEY, WHICH PEOPLE CAN ASK QUESTIONS. 
          THOSE QUESTIONS ARE, ARE BEING, UH, POPULATED RIGHT NOW, AND WE'LL GIVE THOSE QUESTIONS TO THE COMMITTEE TOMORROW NIGHT, AND THEY'LL ASK ALL THE CONSULTANTS AND PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION THEN, OF COURSE, BACK TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          THAT WILL BE LIVE STREAMED AND THEN ALSO WILL BE RECORDED AND WILL BE ON THE WILLOWBEND SITE. 
          SO, UH, AND UNLESS YOU HAVE, UH, ANY QUESTIONS AT, AT THIS TIME, UH, IT IS MY HONOR TO INTRODUCE BILL WARREN, WHO IS THE CHAIR OF THE WILLOWBEND REDEVELOPMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          HELLO, MAYOR MUNNS AND EVERYBODY ELSE. 
          I APPRECIATE YOUR LETTING ME BE HERE TONIGHT AND TALK TO YOU. 
          UM, MOST IMPORTANTLY, AS YOU WOULD IMAGINE, OUR BIGGEST CONCERN, ALL THE HOAS, IS THE TRAFFIC AND WHAT'S GONNA BE DONE WITH THE TRAFFIC. 
          AND WE'VE BEEN VERY HAPPY TO MEET WITH PA - FAIR AND PEERS TWICE NOW, WHERE THEY'VE DISCUSSED THE TRAFFIC SITUATION AND HOW THEY'RE GONNA MITIGATE TRAFFIC. 
          AND FRANKLY, IT'S BEEN VERY INTERESTING. 
          THEY ADMIT THAT THEY'VE FINISHED PHASE ONE AND THEY GOT A LOT MORE WORK TO DO, BUT BY AND LARGE, WE REALLY ENJOYED THE PROCESSES THEY'RE GOING THROUGH AND THE CONTENT, HOW MANY PEOPLE PER CAR, HOW MANY CARS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. 
          A LOT OF DETAIL, AND FRANKLY, THEY ENJOYED OUR COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS. 
          UH, THERE WERE ISSUES THAT CAME UP LIKE WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN PARTICULARLY ON THE WEST 
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SIDE OF THE TOLLWAY WHEN PEOPLE COME TO GAMES AND THEY WANNA USE THE NEIGHBORHOODS FOR OVERFLOW PARKING, AND THEY REALLY DIDN'T WANT THAT. 
          THE POLICE CHIEF WAS VERY CLEAR ON WHAT HE WAS GONNA DO WITH CARS THAT WERE NOT PARKED CORRECTLY IN THE GARAGES AND SO FORTH INSTEAD OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          SO THEY'VE BEEN VERY GOOD AT LISTENING TO OUR COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS. 
          THE SAME THING IS TRUE WITH, WITH, UM, LOOKING AT PROPERTY VALUES AND WORKING WITH ZACH TAX ON THAT. 
          WE WERE, UH, REALLY IMPRESSED WITH THE STUDIES THEY'VE DONE AROUND OTHER CITIES AND, AND OTHER PLACES WHERE THE VALUES DO GO UP. 
          WE HAVE ASKED THEM AS OF THE OTHER NIGHT TO REALLY EXPLAIN TO US THE, THE PROPERTY VALUE SITUATION, UH, OVER AT CEDAR CREEK MALL AND WHAT THAT DID WHEN YOU HAD A DORMANT THING, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT A DEAD THING OVER HERE. 
          IT WILL HAVE BEEN EITHER. 
          SO WE WANNA SEE SOME CONTRAST AND THAT HAD NOT BEEN PART OF THE STUDY, SO THEY'RE GONNA ADD THAT TO THE STUDY. 
          LASTLY, JP MORGAN CHASE AND THE FINANCIAL ADVISORS HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB OF EXPLAINING THE BOND PROCESS AND WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO GO THROUGH, SO WE ENJOYED THAT. 
          MAIN THING IS WE ENJOYED BEING ABLE TO TALK TO THEM, MAKE COMMENTS, ASK QUESTIONS. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK A SINGLE MEETING LASTED LESS THAN AN HOUR AND A HALF TO TWO HOURS. 
          I WOULD IMAGINE TOMORROW'S MEETING WILL LAST ABOUT THREE HOURS WOULD BE MY GUESS WITH, WITH THE 50 OR SO QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE FROM THE, FROM THE HOMEOWNER, HOMEOWNERS. 
          I WANNA THANK CURTIS HOWARD AND DOUG MCDONALD FOR ALL THEY'VE DONE TO SUPPORT US AS A COMMITTEE BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN GREAT. 
          AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, I WANNA THANK ALL THOSE COMMITTEE MEMBERS. 
          I TELL YOU WHAT, THEY HAVE DONE THIS SO PROFESSIONALLY. 
          THERE'S BEEN NO ARGUING OR MAD PEOPLE OR ANYTHING. 
          IT'S BEEN AN EXTREMELY CIVIL PROCESS. 
          I CAN TELL YOU WHICH HOAS DON'T WANT THIS THING, BUT THEY'VE SAID IT IN A CIVIL WAY AND THEY'RE THE ONES CLOSEST TO WHERE THE ARENA WOULD BE AND YOU WOULD EXPECT THAT. 
          SO, BUT IT'S BEEN DONE IN A VERY PROFESSIONAL AND CIVIL WAY. 
          SO MAYOR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ASKING US TO DO THIS. 
          THANK YOU, BILL. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UNLESS THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE CALEB AND THE TRANSPORTATION CONSULTANTS. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          CALEB THORNHILL, DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING. 
          UH, JUST WANTED TO GIVE A REALLY BRIEF INTRODUCTION TO FAR AND PEERS, WHO YOU JUST HEARD MENTIONED. 
          UH, THE PURPOSE OF TONIGHT IS TO TALK ABOUT THE, UH, IMPACT OF THE REDEVELOPMENT WITH THE ARENA ON THE TRANSPORTATION NETWORK AROUND THE, UH, SITE. 
          UM, EXCUSE ME. 
          UH, I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW THESE PRELIMINARY, OR THESE FINDINGS ARE PRELIMINARY. 
          UH, FAIR AND PEERS WILL GET INTO THAT, UH, BUT THEY'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE LOCAL OR THE EXISTING ASSUMPTIONS THAT THEY CAME UP WITH AND THE PRELIMINARY MITIGATION MEASURES, UH, THAT THEY DEVELOPED. 
          SO WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO FAR AND PEERS. 
          EVENING TO THE COUNCIL. 
          HOW'S EVERYBODY DOING? UH, JOSH PETERMAN FROM FAIR AND PEERS. 
          I'LL BRING JOHN GARD, UH, FROM FAIR & PEERS UP HERE IN A SECOND. 
          WE ARE JUST ABOUT DONE WITH, UH, THE, AS CALEB SAID, THE PRELIMINARY PHASE OF OUR TRANSPORTATION ANALYSIS. 
          WE'RE ABOUT TO DELIVER ABOUT 130 PAGES OF REPORT, UH, TO THE CITY. 
          I CAN'T SUMMARIZE ALL OF THAT IN 15 TO 20 MINUTES, BUT I AM GONNA COVER SOME OF THE KEY POINTS, UH, OF THAT ANALYSIS AND I'LL C - ALSO COVER SOME OF THE DISCUSSION TOPICS THAT WE'VE HAD WITH THE, UH, CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          AS CALEB JUST SAID, THIS IS A PHASED STUDY APPROACH. 
          THIS IS THE PRELIMINARY PHASE. 
          UM, SO THIS IS AN INFORMATIONAL UPDATE. 
          THERE'S NO ACTION THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN TONIGHT. 
          THERE ARE AT LEAST TWO PHASES THAT WILL HAPPEN OF THIS STUDY. 
          THIS IS THE PRELIMINARY ONE. 
          THIS IS MEANT TO GET, GUIDE SORT OF NEAR-TERM PLANNING, UH, FOR WHAT WOULD HAPPEN AROUND THE SITE, UM, GET SOME SENSE OF WHAT FUNDING MIGHT BE NEEDED FOR IMPROVEMENTS AROUND THE SITE, AND HELP THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM GUIDE THE DE - THE, THE DESIGN OF THE, THE SITE ITSELF. 
          PHASE ONE INCLUDES FOUR THINGS. 
          IT'S GOT A PRELIMINARY, AND I'LL GO THROUGH THIS IN A SECOND, A PRELIMINARY SITE REDEVELOPMENT ASSUMPTIONS. 
          IT'S GOT ANALYSIS FOR THE PROJECT IN 2031, THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE OPENING DAY. 
          WE'RE PRESENTING SOME MITIGATION MEASURES AS WELL AS A FRAMEWORK, UH, FOR HOW TO ANALYZE THOSE, UH, MITIGATIONS AGAINST THE MOBILITY IMPROVEMENTS THEY PROVIDE. 
          AND THEN, AS I SAID, WE'LL BE PROVIDING AT THE END OF THIS MONTH, UH, A COMPLETE REPORT. 
          THIS IS OUR STUDY AREA THAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU. 
          UH, WE GO AS FAR WEST AS, AS MARSH LANE. 
          AGAIN, IN THE PRELIMINARY PHASE, THIS IS HOW THESE ARE THE EXTENTS. 
          SO MARSH LANE 
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TO THE WEST, PGBT, SORRY, PRESIDENT, GEORGE BUSH TURNPIKE, UH, TO THE SOUTH, ALL THE WAY TO PRESTON ON THE EAST AND, AND UP TO PARKER. 
          SO THAT'S THE OVERALL STUDY AREA, OF COURSE, CONCENTRATING MORE TIME ON THE INTERSECTIONS RIGHT AROUND THE SITE. 
          TALKED ABOUT SOME OF OUR LAND USE ASSUMPTIONS. 
          HERE THEY ARE. 
          UH, SO WE'RE STUDYING A FEW THINGS. 
          SO WITH REGARD TO THE ARENA ITSELF, IT CAN BE USED FOR DIFFERENT PURPOSES, BUT, UM, TO BE CONSERVATIVE, WE'RE LOOKING AT A HOCKEY GAME, WHICH IS 18,000 PEOPLE. 
          UH, WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT A CONCERT WHICH CAN BE RECONFIGURED TO HOLD ABOUT AS, AS MANY AS 19,500 PEOPLE. 
          IT'S ALSO GOT A BUNCH OF NON-ARENA USES, UM, OFFICE, RETAIL, HOTEL. 
          THE THREE GARAGES THAT ARE ON THE SITE, WE'VE ASSUMED THOSE ARE GONNA REMAIN, AND WE'VE ALSO ASSUMED NO CHANGE TO THE EXISTING, UH, AT, UH, INGRESS AND INGRESS FROM, UH, THE WILLOW, THE SHOPS AT WILLOW BEND SITE. 
          FROM A MO- MOBILITY PERSPECTIVE, AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO BE AS CONSERVATIVE AS POSSIBLE. 
          THERE ARE A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS GOING ON WITH RESPECT TO TRANSIT, BUT WE'RE ASSUMING THAT THE CURRENT TRANSIT SERVICE WILL REMAIN AS IS. 
          WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF DIFFERENT RIDE SHARE. 
          WE'RE ASSUMING THAT RIDESHARE WILL BE PROVIDED SOMEWHERE ON OR OFFSITE IN A CONCENTRATED AREA, NOT SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          EXISTING WALKWAYS AND BIKEWAYS WILL REMAIN, AND ALL OF THE PARKING, UH, THAT IS GONNA HAPPEN ASSOCIATED WITH THAT SITE IS GOING TO HAPPEN ON SITE. 
          THAT'S AN IMPORTANT ASSUMPTION. 
          WE ASSUME ALL THE TRIPS TO THE SITE ARE GONNA END AT THE SITE AND ALL THE TRIPS HOME OR TO PEOPLE'S OFFICES OR WHEREVER ARE ALSO DEPARTING FROM THE SITE. 
          THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR OUR TRANSPORTATION ANALYSIS. 
          THE SCENARIOS STUDIED, UH, BEFORE A SOLD OUT HOCKEY GAME. 
          SO, UH, GENERALLY SPEAKING, BEFORE A CONCERT, PEOPLE DRIFT IN. 
          SOME PEOPLE WANNA SEE THE OPENING ACT, SOME PEOPLE WANNA SEE THE MAIN ACT, BUT BEFORE A HOCKEY GAME OR A BASEBALL GAME, PEOPLE WANNA SEE THE FIRST PITCH OR THE, UM, UH, THE PUCK DROP. 
          SO THAT HAPPENS IN THAT FIRST HOUR BEFORE THE GAME, 6:00 TO 7:00 PM. 
          LIKEWISE, PEOPLE STAY AT A CONCERT UNTIL THEY'RE DONE, AND SO EVERYBODY LEAVES A CONCERT VERY QUICKLY. 
          SO THOSE ARE THE TWO ACUTE TIME PERIODS THAT WE WANNA STUDY, SO SIX TO SEVEN BEFORE A HOCKEY GAME, 11 TO MIDNIGHT AFTER A CONCERT. 
          WE MAY CONSIDER OTHER TIME PERIODS AS PART OF A FUTURE PHASE. 
          IN TERMS OF YEARS WE STUDIED TODAY, WE TOOK TRAFFIC COUNTS FROM TODAY. 
          WE ALSO STUDIED, UH, 2031, UH, BECAUSE THAT'S THE OPENING DAY. 
          WE STUDIED WITH THE PROJECT, WE STUDIED WITHOUT THE PROJECT. 
          WE MAY, AS I SAID, CONSIDER OTHER YEARS GOING FARTHER OUT, 10 YEARS FORWARD FROM THAT, UM, IN 24 - UH, 2041. 
          AN IMPORTANT THING TO CONSIDER WHEN I TALKED ABOUT ALL OF THOSE, UH, LAND USE ASSUMPTIONS, WE'RE ASSUMING THOSE ALL GET BUILT BY 2031. 
          SO AGAIN, THIS IS A CONSERVATIVE CASE. 
          ALL OF THE SITE MAY NOT GET ALL BUILT OUT BY 2031, BUT WE'VE ASSUMED THAT AS PART OF THE TRANSPORTATION ANALYSIS. 
          WHETHER YOU'RE STUDYING A GAS STATION OR A LARGE ARENA, TRANSPORTATION ANALYSIS TENDS TO FOLLOW SAME STEPS. 
          HOW MANY TRIPS WILL BE MADE? HOW WILL PEOPLE TRAVEL? FROM WHERE ARE THEY TRAVELING? WHAT ROADWAYS ARE THEY GOING TO TAKE? HOW CAN THAT AFFECT TRAFFIC FLOW AROUND THE SITE AND WHAT CAN BE DONE ABOUT THAT? SO THAT IS WHAT OUR REPORT TALKS ABOUT, AND I'M GONNA WORK WITH JOHN HERE TO JUMP RIGHT TO THE END, UH, AS TO WHAT OUR TRANSPORTATION ANALYSIS, UM, EVOLVED INTO. 
          GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, JOHN GARD, FARREN PEERS. 
          SO WITH RESPECT TO MITIGATIONS FOR PROJECT IMPACTS, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THE MITIGATIONS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THE PROJECT SITE. 
          AGAIN, JOSH MENTIONED THE GEOGRAPHIC LIMITS OF IT. 
          MITIGATIONS ACTUALLY EXTEND AS FAR EAST AS PRESTON, SOME ON THE, THE TURNPIKE, UH, SOME AS FAR NORTH AS PARKER. 
          GIVEN THE TIME WE HAVE, WE, WE CAN'T GET INTO EVERY MITIGATION, ALL THE DETAILS, BUT THE ARROWS MEAN, YOU KNOW, TURN LANE LENGTHENING, ADDING A TURN POCKET, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          UH, THE BOXES MEAN ADDING DIFFERENT TYPES OF PHYSICAL IMPROVEMENTS. 
          WHEN WE TESTED THIS, WE'RE, WE'RE ONLY LOOKING AT SORT OF THE, THE HIGH BENEFIT COST, RIGHT? THE THINGS THAT ARE EASY TO DO, LENGTHEN A TURN LANE, STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING LIKE TUNNELS OR FLYOVERS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS, IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, WHAT WE'RE FINDING IS THAT BY AND LARGE, MOST OF THE IMPACTS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED CAN BE MITIGATED, CAN BE RESTORED OPERATIONS TO A TOLERABLE LEVEL OF DELAY. 
          AND MOST OF THOSE DON'T REQUIRE THE, THE BIG, YOU KNOW, THE BIG, MORE COMPLICATED THINGS. 
          I'LL TALK ABOUT EVENT, POST-EVENT IN A SECOND BECAUSE THAT'S A UNIQUE SITUATION, BUT THE AREAS, AS WE ALL KNOW, DRIVING THROUGH THAT AREA, THE CORRIDOR PARK BOULEVARD FROM PLANO PARKWAY THROUGH DALLAS PARKWAY TO PARKWOOD IS, IS BUSY AND WE'VE TESTED THE LOW-HANGING FRUIT, SO TO SPEAK. 
          IT WORKS WELL, IT MITIGATES THINGS, BUT NOT TO THE DEGREE WE WANT. 
          SO THERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL STEPS IN PHASE TWO THAT WE NEED TO CHECK INTO TO FIND OUT HOW TO FURTHER MITIGATE THAT TO IMPROVE TRAFFIC. 
          POST-EVENT, 
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AFTER THE CONCERT ENDS OR BASKETBALL GAME ENDS, OR HOCKEY GAME ENDS, IS A VERY UNIQUE SITUATION BECAUSE THERE'S NOT AS MUCH BACKGROUND TRAFFIC AND THE TRAFFIC IS ON THE SI - IS ON THE SITE ALREADY, SO IT PROVIDES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR EVENT TRANSPORTATION MANAGEMENT WHERE THE CITY'S, UH, POLICE AND OTHER CAN DIRECT CARS RA- RADIALLY AWAY FROM THE ARENA TO, TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT TRAFFIC TO FLOW QUICKLY AND STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE KEY EARLY FINDINGS WITH RESPECT TO THE, THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS. 
          THE NEXT PHASE IS GONNA ALSO LOOK AT WAYS THAT WE CAN, AS JOSH MENTIONED, THIS HAS BEEN A CONSERVATIVE ANALYSIS, HOW CAN WE REDUCE TRAFFIC ENTERING THE SITE? TRANSIT, THINGS LIKE THAT NEED TO BE CONSIDERED AS, AS A WAY TO FURTHER IMPROVE OPERATIONS. 
          WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT BACK TO JOSH. 
          WHEN WE WERE MEETING WITH THE, UH, CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND SPEAKING WITH THE CITY, CLEARLY, UH, THIS ARENA AND ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT IS, HAS SOME RESIDENCES AROUND IT. 
          SO ONE OF THE TOPICS WAS HOW TO PROTECT NEIGHBORHOODS FROM EVENT TRAFFIC, NOT JUST PARKING, UH, BUT ALSO CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC. 
          AND WE'VE DISCUSSED SEVERAL SOLUTIONS. 
          WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT THOSE, UH, MORE IN DEPTH IN THE NEXT PHASE. 
          THE CITY ALREADY HAS, FOR EXAMPLE, A NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. 
          THAT PROGRAM COULD BE USED SPECIFICALLY FOR, UH, SOME OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          WE'VE EXAMINED, AND SOME OF THE PICTURES ON THIS SLIDE SHOW THEM, UM, E - PERMANENT OR EVENT-RELATED TURN RESTRICTIONS, EVENT DAY CLOSURES, AND, AND POLICE DIRECTED TRAFFIC CONTROL. 
          WE'VE TALKED ABOUT GATED ACCESS WITH THE COMMUNITY, UM, AS WELL AS EITHER, AGAIN, EITHER TEMPORARY OR PERMANENT PARKING RESTRICTIONS OR RESIDENTIAL PERMIT PARKING. 
          THESE ARE ALL TOOLS THAT CAN BE USED IN NEIGHBORHOODS TO PROTECT THEM FROM EVENT-RELATED, UH, UH, TRAFFIC IMPACTS. 
          SO THAT WAS, UH, THE INITIAL PHASE. 
          THIS NEXT PHASE, WE'LL CONSIDER, UH, A LOT MORE. 
          AS I SAID, THERE ARE SOME, OR AS JOHN SAID, UH, THERE ARE SOME ASPECTS OF PARK BOULEVARD, UH, THAT NEED TO BE, UM, EXAMINED, UH, MORE IN DEPTH. 
          WE'LL LOOK AT, AT PARKING SPECIFICALLY, WHERE IT SHOULD OCCUR ON SITE, AND, AND IF THERE ARE OFFSITE OP- OPPORTUNITIES, UM, HOW THAT IMPACTS FLOW AROUND THE SITE. 
          WE'LL LOOK SPECIFICALLY AT RIDE SHARE, LOOK AT TRAVEL DEMAND REDUCTION TRA - STRATEGIES, HOW CAN WE REDUCE THE TRAFFIC, UH, BEHIND THE SITE, CONSIDER WHAT DART IS DOING, LOOK AT THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD PROTECTION STRATEGIES THAT I JUST TALKED ABOUT, UM, AS WELL AS ESTABLISH PERFORMANCE STANDARDS AND PERHAPS CHANGE THE, THE GAME TIME, UH, OF, OF THE HOCKEY GAME. 
          FUTURE PHASE, UM, WE'LL LOOK AT A FORMAL DEVELOPMENT DESCRIPTION, SOMETHING, UH, FROM THE DEVELOPER. 
          WE COULD EXPAND THE STUDY AREA BEYOND, UH, WHAT I HAD SHOWN, EXPAND THE TIME HORIZON FROM 2031 TO 2041, LOOK AT THE ANALYSIS OF THOSE MORE CHALLENGING LOCATIONS, AND LOOK AT A SPECIFIC TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PR - AND NEIGHBORHOOD PROTECTION PROGRAM FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          ANY SITE LIKE THIS WILL ALSO HAVE A WAYFINDING PLAN, AN EVENT TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN, AS WELL AS SPECIFIC PARKING AND CURB MANAGEMENT STRATEGIES. 
          AND THAT'S IT. 
          LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR QUESTIONS. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? MARIA? YES. 
          I, I JUST WANTED TO ASK, I, I, I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS ACTUALLY PART OF YOUR CONSIDERATION, BUT, UM, WHAT ABOUT TRASH? I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THINGS ARE SORT OF LEFT OUT IN THE PARKING LOT OR, UM, OR IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          IS THERE ANY PLAN TO HOW, HOW TO DEAL WITH NOT JUST REGULAR TRASH, BUT ALL SORTS OF LEFTOVER, UM, THINGS? GARBAGE PICKUP WASN'T PART OF THE, THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, BUT I, I WILL TELL YOU THAT IT IS, IT, FOR A DEVELOPMENT, UH, FIGURING OUT WHAT THEIR GARBAGE PICKUP NEEDS ARE IS PART OF THE SITE PLAN, UM, AND AS TO THE ACTUAL... 
          ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE AFTER EFFECTS OF AN EVENT? YES. 
          I THINK, YEAH. 
          I MEAN, WHERE IT COMES FROM EITHER NUISANCE OR DISORDERLY CONDUCT OR WHATEVER, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A, A WIN, THEN, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THROW THINGS AND WHEN THEY LOSE, PEOPLE THROW THINGS. 
          SO, UM, I, I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UM, SOME IMPACT AND HOW TO, UH, MITIGATE THAT AS WELL IN, IN YOUR, IN YOUR DISCUSSION. 
          COUNCILWOMAN, WHAT WE FOCUS THEM ON IS STRICTLY THE, THE MOVEMENT OF VEHICLES INTO AND THROUGH THE, AND AROUND THAT, THAT THE DISCUSSION OF, OF THE, THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO DISCUSS WITH THE DEVELOPER AND WITH, UM, UH, THE TEAM. 
          SO THAT, THAT IS A FUTURE DISCUSSION, BUT NOT PART OF THEIR ANALYSIS. 
          THAT'S FINE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MM-HMM. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU FOR, UH, COMING TO SHARE 
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WITH US, UH, SOME OF YOUR FINDINGS. 
          UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WILL BE, UH, DIFFERENT PHASES OF THIS, UM, STUDY, AND IN REVIEW OF PAGE TWO, I NOTICED THAT THERE ARE ASSUMPTIONS. 
          UH, IN MY WORLD, UH, WE LOOK AT MORE CONCRETE NUMBERS AND, UH, WHETHER IT'S QUALITATIVE OR QUANTITATIVE DATA, AND I THINK THERE IS SOME QUESTIONS, THERE ARE QUESTIONS FROM OUR CITIZENS IN RELATIONS TO WHAT IS TO COME. 
          MY QUESTION IS, WHEN WILL THE ASSUMPTIONS MOVE TOWARDS MORE CONCRETE ANSWERS AS IT RELATES TO LAND USE AND MOBILITY? WITH RESPECT TO LAND USE, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. 
          UH, WITH RESPECT TO LAND USE, WE HAVE TO WORK WITH A DEVELOPER ON THAT. 
          USUALLY THE DE - THE DEVELOPER TEAM WILL PRESENT A, AN ACTUAL SET OF, UH, A, A SITE DESCRIPTION, UH, THAT CONSISTS OF A CERTAIN, UM, LAND USE TYPE, WHETHER IT'S OFFICE OR RESIDENTIAL OR HOTEL, UM, AND PRESENT THAT TO US, AND THAT'S HOW WE REFINE OUR ANALYSIS. 
          WHAT WE'RE GOING ON SO FAR, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY AND THE DEVELOPER TO COME UP WITH ASSUMPTIONS THAT ARE SOUND, UH, BUT THEY ARE NOT BASED ON ACTUAL PROPOSAL FROM THE DEVELOPER. 
          SO THAT HAPPENS IN THE NEXT PHASE. 
          SO MORE CONCRETE ANSWERS WILL HAPPEN IN THE NEXT PHASE? ABSOLUTELY. 
          YEP. 
          WILL IT BE PRESENTED TO, UM, US AS WELL AS THE CITIZENS? 'CAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE ARE GETTING THE HANG UP HERE. 
          A LOT OF OUR CITIZENS WANT TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE, AND WE ARE OPERATING BASED OFF OF ASSUMPTIONS, AND THAT, THAT BRINGS ABOUT CONCERN. 
          AND THAT'S ALSO MY CONCERN AS WELL. 
          WE NEED MORE CONCRETE ANSWERS. 
          WE WILL BE BRINGING THAT BACK AS SOON AS THE DEVELOPER HAS IT. 
          SO WE, UH, ASK FOR IT WEEKLY, UM, AND SO WE ARE PUSHING TO GET THAT INFORMATION AS SOON AS WE POSSIBLY CAN, BUT AS HE MENTIONED, IT WILL BE IN THE, THE NEXT PHASE OF THIS ANALYSIS. 
          SO THIS IS KIND OF WHERE WE ARE TODAY, BUT WE WILL BE BRINGING BACK IN, AS A REMINDER, WE'RE GONNA BE DOING THESE SORTS OF UPDATES EVERY OTHER MONTH. 
          MM-HMM. 
          SO AS SOON AS IT, AS SOON AS WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION, WE WILL BE BRINGING IT BACK TO COUNCIL AND, AND MAKING IT PUBLIC. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          SURE THING. 
          DEPUTY MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UM, I GUESS THIS PRELIMINARY TRANSPORTATION STUDY, I WAS KIND OF EXPECTING MORE DATA TODAY. 
          UM, A LOT OF THESE QUESTIONS ARE, WE ALREADY KNEW ABOUT THEM, SO I WAS EXPECTING TO SEE, LIKE, TOTAL COUNT OF VEHICLES TODAY, WHAT ARE THE TOTAL COUNT IN THE FUTURE? I MEAN, WE'RE ALREADY OCTOBER. 
          I'M BEING ASKED QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMUNITY AND I, I STILL DON'T HAVE ANSWERS TO A LOT OF THAT. 
          I MEAN, I WAS EXPECTING TO SEE A SIMULATION TODAY OF, OF A PRE-GAME, POST-GAME. 
          I MEAN, TODAY I STILL HAVE A LOT MORE QUESTIONS THAN THE PRELIMINARY TRANSPORTATION STUDY RESULTS. 
          DO WE KNOW WHEN WE'RE GETTING DATA, LIKE TRUE DATA? SO - WE HA - WE HAVE ALL OF THAT. 
          THERE WAS A, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A AMOUNT OF TIME THAT WE HAVE TO PRESENT AND THERE, AS I SAID, THERE'S ABOUT 130 PAGES OF REPORT, UM, COMING THE CITY'S WAY. 
          SO ALL OF THE DATA THAT YOU COULD POSSIBLY WANT IS, IS IN THERE, BUT IT HAS ALL OF THE, THE TRIPS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, EXACTLY WHICH SCENARIOS IT'LL ALL, IT'S ALL IN THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT STILL DOESN'T ANSWER MY QUESTION. 
          DO WE KNOW WHEN WE'RE GETTING THAT DATA? WE, WE HAVE THE PRELIMINARY REPORT. 
          I THINK IT'S BEING FINALIZED RIGHT NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          YEP. 
          SO THE FINAL REPORT SHOULD BE HERE WITHIN - END OF THE MONTH. 
          END OF THE MONTH. 
          SO THE 31ST? OCTOBER 31ST? YES. 
          LIKE, I NEED A CONCRETE DATE BECAUSE I'M BEING ASKED QUESTIONS AND I STILL CAN'T PROVIDE ANSWERS. 
          SO I, WE NEED, WE NEED DATA. 
          OCTOBER 31ST, AND WE'LL BE HERE BY THEN. 
          OKAY. 
          MAYOR PRO TEMP. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU, JOSH. 
          AND THANK YOU, JOHN, FOR PRESENTING, ALSO PARTICIPATING IN CITIZENS MEETINGS. 
          YEAH. 
          I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT YOUR, UH, ASSUMPTIONS ON PAGE TWO, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TRANSIT. 
          AND YOU SAID CURRENT DISCUSSIONS ARE PRELIMINARY, BUT THE ASSUMPTION IS THAT CURRENT TRANSIT S- SERVICE WILL REMAIN AS IS. 
          WAS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION OR WERE YOU LOOKING AT PHASE TWO WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT PARK AND RIDES WHERE WE HAVE THESE, UH, ABANDONED DART LOTS THAT PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO JUMP ON AND MAYBE AT THE VERY EARLY STAGES, PROBABLY USING BUSES TO, TO GET PEOPLE TO AND FROM THE ARENA AND THE PARK AND RIDES. 
          UH, ARE WE GONNA BE LOOKING AT THAT IN THE SECOND PHASE OR - ABSOLUTELY. 
          OKAY, BECAUSE AGAIN, YOUR FIRST PHASE JUST SAYS AS IS AND - RIGHT. 
          UH, FOR THE FIRST PHASE, WE ASSUMED ESSENTIALLY NO TRANSIT SERVICE, UH, TO THE SITE BEYOND WHAT THE, THE, UH, F - CURRENT FIXED ROUTES BUS SERVICE IS, UH, TO THE SITE, WHICH IS VERY LOW, UM, CONTRIBUTION, UH, TO, UH, TO THE TRAFFIC DEMAND AT THE SITE. 
          BUT IN PHASE TWO, WE WILL LOOK AT WHETHER IT'S, UH, PUBLICLY RUN, UM, CIRCULATORS OR PRIVATELY RUN SHUTTLES AND WHETHER FROM, WHETHER THEY'RE FROM DART PARK AND RIDE LOTS OR OTHER LOTS THAT ARE AROUND THE SITE, THAT'S CERTAINLY A CONSIDERATION AS PART OF PHASE TWO. 
          SO WE ARE GONNA BE LOOKING AT THAT 
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IN PHASE TWO? YES. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S WHAT MY QUESTION WAS. 
          YEP. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, UH, JOHN, I'M GONNA FOLLOW UP ON, UH, UH, UH, MAYOR PRO TEMP'S, UH, COMMENT ABOUT DART. 
          UM, IN LOOKING AT SOME OF THE NUMBERS GOING DOWN TO THE AMERICAN AIRLINES ARENA, UH, SOMETHING AROUND 10%, UH, MAYBE A LITTLE LESS, MAYBE A LITTLE MORE OF, UH, ATTENDEES ARE RIDING DART. 
          UM, AND, UH, SO THAT GIVES ME THE IMPRESSION THAT, UH, THE CARS COMING TO WILLOW BEND MAY BE A LITTLE HIGHER THAN THE ONES THAT WERE GOING TO, UH, AMERICAN AIRLINES. 
          UM, I'M, WILL THE REPORT THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET INDICATE HOW MANY PARKING SPACES, UH, ARE GOING TO BE NECESSARY, UH, AND, UH, HOW WE'RE GOING TO, UH, TO DEAL WITH, UH, AN EVEN LARGER INFLUX OF, UH, SUCH TRAFFIC? YES, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THAT AS PART OF PHASE TWO. 
          SO TO THE FIRST, FIRST PART OF YOUR QUESTION, UH, THE REPORT THAT WE ARE PROVIDING WILL TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT THE, UH, WE CALL IT MODE SPLIT, BUT HOW MANY PEOPLE WE ASSUME TO BE DRIVING VERSUS TAKING TRANSIT OR RIDING BIKES, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, TO THE SITE, UH, IN 2031 ON OPENING DAY. 
          UH, BUT THEN ALSO IT HAS A PRELIMINARY, PRELIMINARY ANALYSIS OF HOW MANY PARKING SPACES WOULD BE NEEDED. 
          UM, WE PRESENTED AT THE LAST CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING A, A SHARED PARKING ANALYSIS. 
          WE PRESENTED THAT TO THE, UM, DEVELOPER AS WELL, BUT ALL OF THAT NEEDS TO BE, UM, WORKED ON FURTHER, HONED, UH, WITH THE DEVELOPER, UH, BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER, UH, SOURCES OF PARKING THAT THEY ARE ALSO CONSIDERING AS PART OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEP. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER CARE. 
          UM, YOU MENTIONED THAT THE EXISTING PARKING WILL REMAIN. 
          DO YOU ANTICIPATE ADDING PARKING IN THE, IN THE AREA? WE ASSUMED PARKING BASED ON WHAT, UH, ON INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED TO US BY THE DEVELOPER. 
          AND THAT ASSUMPTION WAS THAT THE PARKING STRUCTURES THAT WERE THERE WOULD REMAIN, AND THE DEVELOPER WOULD ALSO PROVIDE PARKING ASSOCIATED WITH THEIR OTHER LAND USES. 
          SO THE OFFICE WOULD HAVE ITS PARKING AND THE RESIDENTIAL WOULD HAVE ITS PARKING, ET CETERA. 
          DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT THE, THE ACTUAL PLACEMENT OF THE ARENA ON THAT LAND WILL AFFECT THE TRAFFIC FLOW? AND IF SO, YOU KNOW, IS THAT ALSO COMING IN THE FUTURE, THOSE, THOSE IMPLICATIONS OF THAT PLACEMENT? THE PLACEMENT OF THE ARENA ON THE SITE CERTAINLY DOES IMPACT TRAFFIC FLOW, AND WE'VE MADE SOME ASSUMPTIONS AS PART OF THIS INITIAL PHASE BASED ON WHERE WE THINK THE SITE MIGHT BE. 
          THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE REFINED AS PART OF PHASE TWO, UM, AS THAT SITE GETS CHANGED. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, RICK, YOU, YOU TALKED ABOUT PHASE TWO A LITTLE BIT, AND, UH, HELP ME UNDERSTAND. 
          ARE, ARE THERE, IS THE RANGE OF THE STUDY GONNA CHANGE? ARE WE GONNA GO BEYOND PARKER OR FURTHER WEST OR FURTHER EAST OR ANYTHING? IT COULD. 
          IT, IT DEPENDS, UH, WHEN WE EXAMINE WHERE TRAFFIC IS COMING FROM, WE MIGHT NEED TO EXPAND THE STUDY AREA IF WE DECIDE, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE IS TRAFFIC THAT'S GONNA BE SOUTH OF PGBT, AND SO WE SHOULD CONSIDER, UH, SOME OF THE IMPACTS TO, TO OTHER AREAS. 
          OR WHAT'S MORE LIKELY IS THAT THERE ARE INTERSECTIONS ALREADY WITHIN THE AREA THAT WE'VE DEFINED THAT WE HAVEN'T S - LIKE, SPECIFIC INTERSECTIONS. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, ON PRESTON, WE LOOKED AT, UM, PARK AND WE LOOKED UP AT PARKER. 
          THERE MIGHT BE INTERSECTIONS IN BETWEEN THAT WE SHOULD ALSO STUDY. 
          SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF INFILL THAT WE'LL HAVE TO DO AS PART OF PHASE TWO, BUT WE ALSO MIGHT EXPAND IT A LITTLE BIT. 
          I DON'T EXPECT A, A LOT OF EXPANSION. 
          DOES YOUR STUDY OR YOUR FUTURE STUDY, DOES IT INCLUDE THE, THE GROWTH ON THE DNT, UH, ESPECIALLY THIS, THERE'S MORE PEOPLE GOING NORTH AND THERE'S A LOT, PROBABLY MORE CARS IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS OR SO. 
          YES, AND WE WILL REVISIT THAT AS PART OF PHASE TWO AS WELL, BUT OUR INITIAL PHASE EXAMINED A 2% GROWTH, UH, WHICH IS A PRETTY CONSERVATIVE GROWTH ESTIMATE FROM TODAY TO 2031. 
          DO YOU FEEL THAT THERE WOULD BE ADDITIONAL PHASES BEYOND THE SECOND PHASE? I DON'T BELIEVE SO. 
          UH, BUT THE, THE SECOND PHASE IS PRETTY, UH, ALL ENCOMPASSING AND IS SUPPOSED TO, UH, CULMINATE AN EVENT TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN, WHICH IS THE PLAN THAT YOU WOULD HAVE IN PLACE BEFORE GAME TIME. 
          IT DOES SEEM TO BE A VERY LARGE PHASE, UH, BIGGER THAN THE, THE CURRENT PHASE YOU WENT THROUGH. 
          IT NEEDS TO GET INTO THE DETAILS, SO IT DOES HAVE, IT DOES HAVE A LOT IN IT, UH, BUT THERE'S A LOT THAT WE'VE, UM, DONE AS PART OF THIS INITIAL PHASE, WHICH SETS US UP WELL FOR, UH, FOR NEXT PHASES OF THE STUDY. 
          UH, DO YOU HAVE, DO YOU ANTICIPATE A DATE WHEN THE SECOND PHASE WILL BE COMPLETED? UH, I DO NOT. 
          NOT AT THIS TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          TRUE. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          [00:30:03]
OUR NEXT PHASE OR OUR NEXT PRESENTATION OF RESIDENTIAL MARKET STUDY UPDATE. 
          MICHAEL TALLEY. 
          GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL. 
          MICHAEL TALLEY, DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          AS CHAIRMAN WARREN MENTIONED, MULTIPLE ITEMS WERE PRESENTED TO THE COMMITTEE, ONE OF THOSE BEING A RESIDENTIAL MARKET STUDY LOOKING AT MULTIPLE OPTIONS ACRO- ACROSS THE UNITED STATES WHERE ARENAS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED. 
          SO AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO BRING UP ROBERT HANNA FROM ZACTAX FOR A PRESENTATION. 
          EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL, MY NAME'S ROBERT HANNA. 
          I'M THE PRESIDENT OF STRATEGIC SERVICES FOR ZACTAX. 
          AND WE WERE ENGAGED, UM, BY STAFF TO LOOK AT FIVE COMPARABLE VENUES, UH, THAT TELL US ABOUT HOME VALUES AROUND POTENTIAL HOME VALUE IMPACT THE NEW WILLOWBEND VENUE. 
          SO WE TRACKED HOME VALUES AROUND THE BATTERY, WHICH IS IN ATLANTA, GEORGIA, UH, DICKEY'S ARENA IN FORT WORTH, UH, LEVI STADIUM IN SANTA CLARA, LOAN DEPOT PARK IN, IN MIAMI, AND THEN INTUIT DOME, WHICH OPENED A COUPLE YEARS AGO IN INGLEWOOD. 
          AND WE ASKED REALLY TWO QUESTIONS, THE FIRST BEING, DOES THE PROXIMITY TO A VENUE MOVE RESIDENTIAL VALUES UP OR DOWN, RIGHT? AND THE SECOND WAS IF IT DOES MOVE UP OR DOWN, FOR WHOM, BY HOW MUCH, AND KIND OF WHAT'S AROUND IT. 
          WE DESIGNED OUR STUDY TO LOOK AT REALLY, UH, THREE DIFFERENT CONSENT CIRCLES, KIND OF A ONE MILE RADIUS, A THREE MILE RADIUS AND A FIVE MILE RADIUS. 
          UH, I'LL GET INTO THIS IN JUST A LITTLE BIT. 
          UH, ONE OF OUR VENUES THAT WE ALSO LOOKED AT WAS THE AT&T STADIUM IN ARLINGTON. 
          BECAUSE IT REALLY DEVELOPED IN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT TRAJECTORY THAN WHAT MAY HAPPEN HERE, UH, THE COMMITTEE SUGGESTED THAT IT WAS REMOVED AND WE ARE GONNA REPLACE THAT WITH THE CLIMATE PLEDGE ARENA IN SEATTLE AND ALSO ANOTHER, UM, UH, DEVELOPMENT IN ALEXANDRIA, VIRGINIA CALLED POTOMAC YARD. 
          WE'RE STILL GETTING THE DATA POINTS FOR THAT AND WE ARE DOING THAT ANALYSIS AND THAT WILL BE COMING TO YOU SHORTLY. 
          SO WHAT WE FOUND, UH, REALLY, UH, FOR, EXCEPT FOR ONE OUT OF FIVE, THE HOME SITES WITHIN A MILE, UH, WITHIN THAT FIRST MILE RANGE OUTPACED, UH, THE OUTER RINGS EXCEPT FOR THE BATTERY. 
          UH, YOU SEE IN THE BATTERY THAT THE HOME VALUES IN THAT FIRST, UH, ONE MILE CONCENTRIC AREA GREW FASTER THAN THE THREE AND THE FIVE MILE RING. 
          UM, IN A LARGE PART, UH, THAT IS BECAUSE OF THE MIXED USE NATURE OF THE BATTERY. 
          UH, BOTH THE DICKEYS, UH, LOAN DEPOT, LEVI'S AND INTUIT DOME DIDN'T SEE THAT. 
          RECALL THESE ARE OVER DIFFERENT TIMEFRAMES, RIGHT? AND SO THE LOAN DEPOT SAW A HUGE DECLINE IN VALUES RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE HOUSING CRISIS. 
          UM, AND SO WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT THERE IS THE GREAT RECESSION, UH, TAKING PLACE. 
          UH, IT'S NOT A FUNCTION OF THE, OF THE VENUE, IT'S, IT'S A FUNCTION OF THE LARGER MACRO ECONOMY AT THE TIME. 
          SO DIGGING INTO THE BATTERY A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, YOU CAN SEE THE OFFICE AND RETAIL COMPONENT OF THAT IN THAT ONE MILE RADIUS IS SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN ANY OF THE OTHER VENUES. 
          UH, WE BELIEVE THAT'S A STRONG REASON WHY THE VALUATIONS IN THAT ONE MILE AREA WERE A LOT, UH, STRONGER AND GREW MORE AGGRESSIVELY, UH, THAN YOU SAW IN THE OTHER VENUES. 
          THIS IS PRETTY INTUITIVE. 
          UH, LOWER VALUE HOMES GAINED A LARGER PERCENTAGE IN VALUE. 
          HIGHER VALUE HOMES GAINED A LARGER DOLLAR AMOUNT, RIGHT? SO IF YOU HAVE A SMALLER BASE AND YOU INCREASE YOUR VALUE, THAT'S GONNA BE A LARGER PERCENTAGE. 
          AND IF YOU HAVE A LARGER BASE AND YOU STILL INCREASE A LOT OF VALUE, IT HAS A LOT MORE VALUE TO, BASE TO GROW BEFORE IT CAN HAVE A LARGE PERCENTAGE. 
          UM, SO CONSISTENTLY WHAT THE STUDY FOUND WAS THAT HIGH VALUE AREAS, UM, RETAINED THEIR VALUE AND GREW AT A SLOWER RATE THAN WHAT YOU'D HAVE IN A LOWER VALUE AREA IN SOME OF THE OUTLYING OUT- OUT- OUTER, OUTER LAYING ZONES IN THAT THREE TO FIVE MILE RANGE. 
          THERE'S REALLY NO EVIDENCE, UH, THAT THE VENUE WILL DRAG DOWN HOME RESIDENTIAL VALUES. 
          UH, THE ONE THAT WE DID FIND AGAIN WAS THE ONE IN MIAMI, AND THAT WAS A COMPLETELY, UH, DIFFERENT SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES. 
          UH, FROM AN INNER, FROM AN INNER MILE STANDPOINT ON, IS THERE A REDEVELOPMENT THREAT, UH, FOR SOME OF THE EXISTING HOMES? SO WE, WHAT WE MEASURE IS IF ONCE THE LAND VALUE IS ABOUT 50% OF THE ACTUAL IMPROVEMENT, IT'S REALLY AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO COME AND POTENTIALLY REDEVELOP THIS AREA. 
          SO WITHIN THAT ONE MILE RADIUS WILL HAVE BEEN NOW, ONLY SIX TENTHS OF A PERCENTAGE POINT EVEN REACHED THAT POINT. 
          AND MOST OF THOSE, ALL OF THEM ACTUALLY ARE VERY LARGE LOTS THAT, UM, ARE, MAY OR MAY NOT REDEVELOP ON THEIR OWN. 
          IT DEPENDS UPON A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT FACTORS. 
          UM, OUTSIDE OF THAT ONE MILE AREA, UH, PLANO AS A CITY AS A WHOLE IS ABOUT 1.8% AND THOSE ARE LARGE, LARGE LOTS THAT ARE OUT IN THE FIVE MILE RANGE, UH, MORE OFTEN THAN NOT. 
          AND THEY'RE, THEY WERE OLDER HOMESTEADS THAT 
          [00:35:01]
JUST HAVEN'T REDEVELOPED YET. 
          UM, YOUR EXISTING NEIGHBORS ARE, NEIGHBORHOODS ARE EXTREMELY STABLE, UH, FROM A VALUATION STANDPOINT, UH, SO WE REALLY DON'T SEE THERE BEING THIS, UH, UNKNOWN REDEVELOPMENT RISK, UH, TO PLANO'S NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          THE BASELINE FROM A VALUATION STANDPOINT IN THAT FIRST ONE MILE RANGE, YOUR MEETING HOME VALUES AT 917,000, AND THEN THE ONE TO THREE, IT'S 532, AND THREE TO FIVE, IT'S $487,000. 
          THAT LOOKS AT BOTH, ALL THREE OF THE, THE COUNTIES, THE COLLIN, DENTON, AND DALLAS COUNTIES WITHIN THAT ONE, THREE, AND FIVE MILE RADIUS. 
          UM, WHETHER WE DO THIS OR NOT, UH, WE THINK YOU GUYS SHOULD UPDATE ONCE WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE VENUE IN PLACE, IT'D BE INTERESTING TO COME BACK AND TAKE A LOOK AT THAT TO SEE HOW VALUES CHANGE WHEN, WHEN THE, WHEN, IF THE VENUE DOES MATERIALIZE. 
          SO WHAT'S THE RESULT HERE? LIKELY IT'S A GRADUAL UPSIDE, RIGHT? STRONGEST, UH, WHERE THE VENUE ANCHORS A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. 
          UH, SO IF THE DEVELOPMENT IN QUESTION IS GONNA HAVE OFFICE AND RESIDENTIAL AND RETAIL IN LINE WITH THAT VENUE, THERE SHOULD, THERE SEEMS TO BE INDICATION THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A RISE IN RESIDENTIAL VALUES THAT MAY OUTPACE, UH, THE THREE AND FIVE MILE RANGE. 
          PLAN FOR STEADY APPRECIATION, YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE A GIANT INCREASE, UH, NEAR THE WILLOWBEND AREA. 
          YOU WILL SEE A, UH, AN INCREASE OVER TIME, MEASURED INCREASE OVER TIME. 
          UM, THERE REALLY DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A HUGE DOWNSIDE RISK, UM, TO RESIDENTIAL VALUATIONS. 
          SO A COUPLE NEXT STEPS FOR US, UH, THE COMMITTEE HAS ASKED US TO LOOK AT THE CLIMATE PLEDGE ARENA AND THE POTOMAC YARD, WHICH WE WILL DO. 
          UM, THEY'VE ALSO ASKED US TO DO A STUDY AT THE COLLIN CREEK MALL AREA. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA TAKE WHEN THE COLLIN CREEK MALL WAS OPEN AND, AND A RETAIL TRADE AREA, WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT WHEN IT WAS CLOSED AND WE'RE ALSO GOING TO LOOK AT NOW WHEN IT'S IN THIS REDEVELOPMENT CYCLE AND JUST SEE HOW RESIDENTIAL VALUES MAY HAVE CHANGED OVER THAT, OVER THAT REVIEW PERIOD, UM, TO SHOW MAYBE AN OPPORTUNITY COST OPPORTUNITY THERE. 
          UH, WE'RE ALSO GOING TO LOOK AT THE ONE MILE CIRCLE AREA AND DO A MORE, UH, IN-DEPTH REVIEW OF THAT, MAYBE 100, 500, 1500 FOOT RADIUS FROM THE SHOPPING CENTER. 
          UH, THOSE HOAS THAT LIVE CLOSEST TO WILLOWBEND, UH, THOUGHT THAT A MORE DETAILED FOCUSED LOOK AT THE VALUATIONS WITHIN THAT ONE MILE RADIUS COULD BE HELPFUL FOR THEM. 
          MAY I ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ONE SECOND, ROBERT. 
          REAL QUICK. 
          DEPUTY MAYOR. 
          SORRY, MAYOR. 
          I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. 
          I DIDN'T CLICK THE BUTTON FAST ENOUGH. 
          UM, I WAS LOOKING AT THE COMPARISONS OF THE CITIES AND I SEE ONLY ONE IN TEXAS, WHICH IS FORT WORTH, BUT THEN I SEE TWO CALIFORNIA LOCATIONS, BUT I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER TEXAS LOCATIONS. 
          SO IS THERE A REASON WHY THERE WASN'T ANY OTHER TEXAS LOCATIONS? AND BEFORE THAT, I STILL WANNA HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. 
          AND THEN WHEN I LOOK AT THE TWO CALIFORNIA ONES, WHEN I LOOK AT POPULATION-WISE, THERE'S 134 IN SANTA CLARA AND THEN THERE'S 101K IN INGLEWOOD WHEN PLANO'S 300,000 RESIDENTS. 
          SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW WE PICKED THESE TOP FIVE AND THEN HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW WE DIDN'T PICK ADDITIONAL ONES IN TEXAS. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM. 
          SO THE INITIAL SELECTIONS WERE PICKED BY STAFF WITH THE ADVISEMENT FOR THE, THE CONSULTANT TEAM. 
          WHAT WE LOOKED AT IS TRIED TO FIND AREAS THAT HAD CLOSE PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL, FIND STADIUMS AND VENUES THAT WERE IN MORE SUBURBAN TYPE AREAS AND NOT IN THEIR URBAN CORE, AND THEN LOOK AT AREAS THAT ARE MORE AUTO-CENTRIC COMPARED TO MORE MASS TRANSIT CENTRIC. 
          SO WE TRIED TO FIND ALL THOSE TYPES OF DIFFERENT CHARACTERISTICS THAT HAD SIMILARITIES. 
          UM, THERE'S NOT A PERFECT FIT FOR, UM, FINDING AN APPLES TO APPLES ARE WHAT WE HAVE HERE IN PLANO. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, WHAT WE DID THOUGH IS WE SAID WE'RE GONNA LEAVE IT OPEN, UM, AND ADD SOME SCOPE IN THE PROJECT AND ALLOW THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO HELP PROVIDE SOME INPUT ON THOSE VENUES. 
          THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE DID THAT. 
          THEY ACTUALLY REMOVED THE TEXAS LOCATION, THE ARLINGTON LOCATION, AND THEY ADDED THEM BACK IN THE SEATTLE LOCATION. 
          UM, BUT WHAT WE DID IS WE SAID IF THERE WAS ANY LOCATION THEY'D LIKE US TO TAKE A LOOK AT, WE WOULD. 
          AND THAT'S WHY SOME OF THESE, SOME OF THIS DATA WILL BE COMING, UH, FORTHCOMING FOR THE COMMITTEE AND FOR COUNCIL. 
          SO THERE WAS NO OTHER ONES IN TEXAS THAT WERE COMPARABLE? YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, UH, FROM WHAT WE FEEL, UH, IN TERMS OF THE SIZE AND THE LOCATION AND THE, AND THE, AND THE APPROXIMITY, NO. 
          WE, WE FELT THE, THE TWO THAT WERE, HAD SOME SIMILARITIES WERE, UH, THE ARLINGTON LOCATION AND THE FORT WORTH LOCATION DICKEY'S. 
          UH, WE DID QUITE A BIT LOOK AT THE STAR. 
          UM, HOWEVER, THE STAR IS JUST A LITTLE DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE CONSTANT EVENTS FROM A PERFORMANCE VENUE, SO A, A TEAM. 
          UM, SO THAT'S WHY WE REALLY KIND OF LEANED INTO THOSE FACILITIES. 
          BUT AGAIN, ALLOWING THE COMMITTEE TO HELP DRIVE THAT, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS, THEY FELT WAS NOT ACCURATE. 
          AND, AND THE TWO CALIFORNIA ONES THAT ARE AT 100,000 POPULATION, THOSE WERE COMPARABLE? YEAH, SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY'RE MORE SUBURBAN TYPE CHARACTERISTICS. 
          UM, SO WHEN WE'RE, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PROFESSIONAL SPORTS TO TAKE A LOOK AT, ESPECIALLY THE ONES WE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WERE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF SIZE, THAT BECAME SOME DISCUSSION TOO, BECAUSE THIS FACILITY WILL ONLY BE ABOUT 18,000. 
          [00:40:01]
YOU'RE LOOKING AT AT&T, WHICH IS 100,000. 
          SO THAT'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT CHARACTERISTICS. 
          WE WENT AHEAD AND SAID, OKAY, WE CAN, FROM THE, FROM BEING A LITTLE BIT MORE CONSERVATIVE, WE CAN LOOK AT SOME LARGER STADIUMS BECAUSE THAT WOULD HAVE A LARGER IMPACT ON TRAFFIC THAN WHAT WE WOULD SEE. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, BUT IN, IN TERMS OF THE CHARACTERISTICS OF HAVING MORE SUBURBAN TYPE, UH, CHARACTERISTIC, THOSE TWO DID MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS. 
          OKAY. 
          I JUST STILL FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT TEXAS IS SUCH A LARGE STATE WITH MULTIPLE TEAMS AND WE ONLY HAVE ONE. 
          AND THAT'S SOMETHING, AGAIN, IF COUNCIL, IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE OTHER SUGGESTIONS WITH THE COMMITTEE, WE'RE HAPPY TO CONTINUE LOOKING AT THOSE CHARACTERISTICS AND ADD THOSE TO THE SCOPE. 
          THANK YOU, DOUG. 
          OKAY. 
          MOVING ON TO THE, UH, FINANCING PLAN UPDATE. 
          UH, THANK YOU, MAYOR, COUNCIL. 
          DOUG MCDONALD, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER. 
          UM, WITH ME TODAY, TODAY YOU'RE GONNA SEE IS A WHOLE TEAM OF FINANCE, UH, CONSULTANTS. 
          UH, HERE ALONG WITH DENISE TACKEY, OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR, WE HAVE LAUREN ALEXANDER WITH HILLTOP, UH, GREG HERE AT MCCALL. 
          UH, WE HAVE JP MORGAN, P3 WORKS, AND ELEVATE. 
          YOU'RE GONNA HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE FROM SYMPATHY, UH, WITH THE, WITH OUR ARENA FEASIBILITY, UH, HERE TODAY. 
          I'M GONNA RUN THROUGH A LOT OF THESE SLIDES. 
          THESE ARE SLIDES THAT YOU ALL HAVE SEEN QUITE A BIT. 
          UH, WE PRESENTED THEM AS WELL TO THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          UM, BUT THIS IS A CONSULTANT TEAM WE HAVE IN TERMS OF OUR PRIMARY ADVISORS FOR THE PROJECT, UM, RANGING FROM OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR, HILLTOP, UH, HERE AT THE CITY, BUT ALSO WITH THIS PROJECT, UM, DOWN TO OUR UNDERWRITER, JP MORGAN, WHO WE'VE BROUGHT ON SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS PROJECT. 
          UH, WE ALSO HAVE A NUMBER OF CONSULTANT TEAM MEMBERS, UH, AND OTHER ADVISORS, THE CONCORD GROUP, WHICH YOU HEARD ABOUT, UH, A FEW MO - FEW MEETINGS AGO, IS LOOKING AT THE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, THE FEASIBILITY AROUND THE, UH, THE OFFICE, RETAIL, RESIDENTIAL, WHAT THE MARKET WILL SUPPORT AROUND THE ARENA. 
          AND THEN ELEVATE, WHICH IS LOOKING AT THE ARENA FEASIBILITY ITSELF AND, AND REVENUES THAT COULD BE GENERATED NOT ONLY FROM THE VENUE TAX, UH, BUT ALSO FROM GENERAL SALES TAX AND TICKET TAXES AND SUCH AT THE ARENA. 
          UH, THIS IS A SLIDE YOU'VE SEEN SEVERAL TIMES, JUST KIND OF A SUMMARY OF THE LETTER OF INTENT THAT WAS, UH, APPROVED BY COUNCIL BACK IN JUNE OF OUR PUBLIC PARTICIPATION FOR THE ARENA, THE TOTAL COST OF THE ARENA, UH, METER EXCEEDING ONE BILLION IN VALUE. 
          THE OVERRUNS FOR THE ARENA, ANYTHING THAT GOES OVER ONE BILLION WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BE COVERED BY THE TEAM. 
          UH, THE ARENA BEING OWNED BY THE CITY AND LEASED TO THE DALLAS SPORTS AND ENTERTAINMENT LP FOR 30 YEARS WITH A RENEWAL OF 10 ADDITIONAL YEARS, A TOTAL OF 40. 
          AND THEN THE DISTRICT BEING, UH, A TOTAL THREE BILLION IN VALUATION. 
          UH, THE ALLOCATION OF FUNDING, WE HAVE KIND OF THREE BUCKETS OF KIND OF THE WATERFALL OF FUNDS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED WITH YOU BEFORE, THE TURS REVENUE, WHICH IS CITY COUNCIL AUTHORIZATION THAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE BACK IN JUNE, THE VENUE TAXES, WHICH IS VOTER AUTHORIZATION, WHICH IS PROBABLY BEFORE THE VOTERS IN NOVEMBER, AND THE PROJECT FINANCE ZONE, WHICH IS STATE AUTH - UH, AUTHORIZATION, UH, WHICH WILL BE FOR, COMING IN THE NE - IN THE COMING MONTHS. 
          UH, THE TURS, UH, AND THE TAX FINANCING, UH, YOU ALL ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH, WITH TURS HERE IN PLANO, BUT, UM, THEY ARE CREDITED BY A CITY OR COUNTY. 
          OTHER TAXING ENTITIES CAN PARTICIPATE AND JOIN IN. 
          UH, WE HAVE FIVE ACTIVE HERE IN PLANO WITH THE WILLOWBEND BEING THE NEWEST, NEWEST, BUT DOWNTOWN PLANO, DART SILVER LINE, COLLIN CREEK, AND THE LEGACY BUSINESS AREA. 
          NUMBER SIX, WILLOWBEND IS, UH, ALONG THE, THE DALLAS, UH, NORTH TOLLWAY CORRIDOR, ABOUT 900 ACRES, 286 PARCELS. 
          IT'S 100% NON-RESIDENTIAL, DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY RESIDENTIAL PARCELS, AND IT EXPIRES IN 41 YEARS IN, IN 19 - IN, UH, 67. 
          UH, THE PROJECT FINANCE PLAN THAT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU BACK IN JUNE, UH, SHOWS YOU THE CONTRIBUTION THAT WOULD BE ESTIMATED THAT WOULD GO INTO THE TURST FUND AND THEN WHAT WOULD REMAIN IN THE GENERAL FUND. 
          SO ESSENTIALLY ANYTHING THAT'S BEEN CAPPED BELOW, UH, THE, UH, THE, THE, UH, TURS FUNDING IS, WOULD GO BACK INTO THE GENERAL FUND. 
          THAT IS ESTIMATED RIGHT NOW TO BE ABOUT 1.6 BILLION THAT WILL CONTINUE TO GO INTO THE GENERAL FUND AND WILL NOT GO INTO THE TURS FUND. 
          OVER 41 YEARS, THAT ENDS UP BEING ABOUT 67 BILLION THAT WOULD BE CONTINUED GOING INTO THE GENERAL FUND. 
          WHAT WOULD BE ALLOCATED INTO TERS FUND THAT WOULD HELP WITH FINANCING OF THIS PROJECT WOULD BE 1.6 BILLION OVER THE 41-YEAR TIMEFRAME. 
          UH, YOU HAVE AN ITEM TONIGHT TO LOOK AT PLANO INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT'S CONTRIB - UH, CONTRIBUTION AND PARTICIPATION WITHIN THE TERS. 
          UM, WHAT THEY HA- HAS BEFORE YOU IS A LONG-TERM CONTRIBUTION OF A 250 MILLION OR 25 YEARS, WHICHEVER ONE COMES FIRST. 
          UH, THE ISD WILL CONTRIBUTE 50% OF THEIR CAPTURED TAX INCREMENT EACH YEAR THAT WOULD GO TOWARDS THE PROJECT. 
          UM, THE CONTRIBUTION IS EXPECTED TO OFFSET THROUGH RECAPTURE ADJUSTMENT. 
          SO THESE DOLLARS THAT ARE TYPICALLY, UM, THAT GO BACK TO THE STATE FOR BEING RECAPTURED WOULD ACTUALLY STAY HERE IN PLANO FOR THE PROJECT TO BE REDEVELOPED AND ALSO FOR, UH, UH, PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. 
          UH, MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE, THE, THE, THE AGREEMENT DOES HAVE A HOLD HARMLESS CLAUSE, SO IF PLANO ISD'S FUNDING DOES CHANGE WITH THE STATE ANY CHANCE, THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO PULL OUT IN THE FUTURE. 
          UH, WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT PARTICIPATION WITH, WITH THE DART AND, UH, DALLAS AREA RAPID TRANSIT. 
          UH, THEY HAVE THEIR PROGRAM THAT ACTUALLY, UH, JUST LAUNCHED FOR PARTICIPATION WITH TEURS DISTRICTS. 
          UM, THEY WOULD LOOK AT THE INCREASE, UH, BASELINE OF SALES TAX AND THEN WOULD HAVE A SPLIT WITH THAT ONE CENT TO US, UH, THAT WOULD GO TOWARDS OTHER TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS AND INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE FUTURE. 
          THE VENUE TAXES, WHICH IS PART OF CHAPTER 334, THE 
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LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, IT AUTHORIZES THE CITY TO LOOK AT, UH, ADDITIONAL TAXES, UH, WITH APPROVAL BY THE VOTERS, UH, FOR THINGS LIKE A SPORTS AND COMMUNITY VENUE. 
          UM, THE VOTERS WILL DECIDE IF THEY SUPPORT THIS FUNDING TOOL FOR THE SPORTS COMMUNITY VENUE THAT RELIES PRIMARILY ON VISITORS AND EVENT ATTENDEES, FOLKS WHO ARE MAYBE GOING TO EVENTS OR PARKING AT EVENTS. 
          AND WHILE THIS IS A VOTE FOR THE FINANCING OF THIS TOOL, UH, A NO VOTE DOES NOT PREVENT THE CITY PROCEEDING WITH THE ARENA UNDER THE STATUTE FOR TERRORIST AND OTHER LAWS. 
          THE VENUE TAX ELECTION HAS FIVE DIFFERENT, UH, TAXES FOR CONSIDERATION. 
          UM, THEY'RE ALL WRAPPED UP INTO ONE PROPOSITION OF THE SHORT-TERM MOTOR VEHICLE RENTAL TAX, THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX, THE VENUE EVENT PARKING TAX, THE VENUE ADMISSIONS TAX, AND THE VENUE USE TAX. 
          UM, THESE TAXES CAN ONLY BE COLLECTED WHILE BONDS FOR THE VENUE ARE OUTSTANDING OR 30 YEARS, WHICHEVER COMES FIRST. 
          SO IF WE PAY OFF OUR DEBT EARLY, THOSE VENUE TAX, UH, UH, THESE TAXES WOULD GO AWAY, UH, WITH THE PAYING OFF OF THE BONDS. 
          UH, THIS IS THE PROPOSITION WORDING. 
          UM, IT IS ON THE, UH, SAMPLE BALLOT, LOOKED AT IT TODAY. 
          UM, IT'S ACTUALLY ON THE SECOND PAGE, AT LEAST ON MY BALLOT, UH, IN, IN PLANO. 
          UM, BUT YOU, YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND SEE HOW IT IS WORDED. 
          UH, ONE OF THE THINGS IT DOES SHOW IS THAT THIS IS A TAX INCREASE, SO I HAVE A Q - UH, A FAQ BEHIND THIS THAT EXPLAINS WHY THAT IS ON THE PROPOSITION AND ONE ON THE BALLOT. 
          THAT IS A STATE REQUIREMENT, UM, BUT THAT IS FORTHCOMING. 
          BUT THIS IS THE BALLOT LANGUAGE THAT'LL BE ON THE BALLOT, UH, IN NOVEMBER. 
          IN THAT, I DO WANNA INVITE, UH, CYMATHY UP HERE, UH, TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ELEVATE. 
          I WILL SAY ELEVATE IS A, IS A FIRM THAT WE'VE BROUGHT ON. 
          THEY HAVE NOT HAD THE ABILITY TO MEET WITH THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          HOWEVER, WE THOUGH IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO HAVE A, AN INTRODUCTION HERE WITH YOU ALL, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM ON THE NEXT FUTURE PHASES. 
          GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          THANK YOU FOR, UH, INVITING US HERE TO BE ABLE TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ELEVATE AND OUR INVOLVEMENT IN THIS PROJECT. 
          NAME IS SIMOTHY THIAGARAJAN, EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT AT ELEVATE. 
          TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT US, WE ARE A GLOBAL SPORTS AND ENTERTAINMENT AGENCY THAT WAS FOUNDED IN 2018. 
          WE ARE, UH, PARTNERS FOR GROWTH ACROSS LEADING BRANDS, PROPERTIES, AND OTHER EXPERIENCE-DRIVEN BUSINESSES WITH OVER A THOUSAND CLIENTS. 
          WE ARE A TRUSTED ADVISOR THAT HELPS THEM SOLVE COMPLEX CHALLENGES AND DRIVE BUSINESS WINS. 
          WE STARTED AS A SPORTS, UH, GLOBAL CONSULTING FIRM, BUT WE HAVE NOW ALSO EVOLVED INTO A PLATFORM, UM, IN KIND OF A ONE MODEL FOR CULTURE, A- ATTRACTIONS, CULINARY, AND HOTELS. 
          UM, AND WE CONTINUE TO GROW. 
          AND OUR PARTNERS, UH, ARE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, THROUGHOUT THE WORLD, UH, NORTH AMERICA, EUROPE, AND ASIA. 
          OUR INVOLVEMENT IN THIS PROJECT IS WE WERE HIRED AS A THIRD-PARTY CONSULTANT TO ASSESS AND QUANTIFY THE POTENTIAL CITY REVENUE IMPACT OF THIS PROPOSED NEW ARENA PROJECT. 
          OUR METHODOLOGY CONSISTS OF SEVERAL WORK STREAMS, INCLUDING STAKEHOLDER INTERVIEWS, COMPETITIVE BENCHMARKING, MARKET ASSESSMENTS, AND MARKET COMPARISONS. 
          THIS IS ALL INFORMED WITH OUR ORGANIZATION'S EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE, UM, IN LIVE SPORTS AND ENTERTAINMENT SPACES. 
          WE ARE CONTINUING TO CONSIDER, UM, COMPETITION FROM OTHER AND EXISTING AND PROPOSED VENUES AS COMPARATORS, AND OUR FINAL PROJECTIONS AND FINDINGS WILL BE SHARED WITH THE CITY OF PLANO BY THE END OF THE 2026 CALENDAR YEAR. 
          A FEW OF THE HIGH LEVEL ASSUMPTIONS THAT WE HAVE USED FOR OUR ANALYSIS, OUR PRELIMINARY ANALYSIS IS, UH, 41 DALLAS STAR HOME GAMES, 30, 60 TO 70 ADDITIONAL NON-STAR EVENTS, SO AVERAGING AT ABOUT 10,000 ATTENDEES PER EVENT, AND 5,000 PARKING SPACES. 
          THESE ASSUMPTIONS ARE STILL CONSERVATIVE AND ARE CONTINUING TO BE EVALUATED, UM, BUT WE DID WANNA BRING THESE FORWARD TO SHARE FOR RIGHT NOW. 
          WE HAVE NOT INCLUDED ANY GROWTH IN TICKET SALES OR HOT REVENUES, BUT WE'LL CONTINUE TO LOOK THROUGH THAT. 
          THANK YOU, SIM- SIMOTHY. 
          AND SO, UH, COUNCIL, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU'LL SEE THE ESTIMATED REN - THE REVENUE FROM THE VENUE TAX OVER THAT 30 YEARS IS 700 MILLION TO 900 MILLION. 
          IT DOES INCLUDE THINGS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF ELEVATE'S SCOPE, WHICH INCLUDES THE 2% OCCUPANCY TAX, THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL FOR MOTOR VEHICLES, AND THE VENUE TAX FOR PLAYERS. 
          SO THAT IS ALL PART OF THAT, UH, ESTIMATE BETWEEN 700 AND 900, AND WE BELIEVE THAT IS A VERY CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE. 
          SO COUNCIL, THE FINANCE PLAN, SO WE WILL HAVE THE PRELIMINARY FINANCE MODELS FROM JP MORGAN ACCOUNT FOR BOTH THE PRINCIPAL AND THE INTEREST PAYMENTS, UH, FOR THE BOND FINANCING. 
          UM, THEY'RE CURRENTLY ANTICIPATED TO BE ISSUED IN EARLY 2028 IF THE PROJECT PROCEEDS, AND THE INTEREST RATE WILL TURN BY THE MARKET CONDITIONS AT THE TIME OF ISSUANCE. 
          UH, THE FINANCING DOCUMENTS, BOND DOCUMENTS, THEY ALL WILL ESTABLISH THE SPECIFIC REVENUES THAT'LL BE PLEDGED FOR THE REPAYMENT FOR THE BONDS, UM, ISSUED WITH THE FINANCE, THE PROJECT, AND THE PLAN AND DOCUMENTS WILL ALL BE COMPLETED ONCE THE FUNDING SOURCES ARE APPROVED AND AUTHORIZED. 
          SO COUNCIL, I WANNA WALK YOU THROUGH A FEW Q&A QUESTIONS THAT, UM, THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE HAS, UH, HAS SENT TO US THAT ARE KIND OF RECURRING QUESTIONS, UH, FOR THE, FOR THE CITIZENS, ONE OF WHICH IS BEING, UM, DOES THIS BALLOT PRESENT TWO DIFFERENT QUESTIONS, UH, TO MOVE FORWARD THE STARS PROJECT AND TO PROVE THE V - THE TAXES, OR IS THIS ONE QUESTION? UH, WE HAVE, UH, OUR ANSWER IS THAT UNDER CHAPTER 334, THE CITY MUST IDENTIFY A SPECIFIC 
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VENUE PROJECT IN ORDER TO SEEK VOTER AUTHORIZATION. 
          SO THE CITY COULDN'T JUST GO OUT AND SAY, "HEY, WE WANTED TO LOOK AT NEW TAXES FOR, UH, FOR, UM, CAR RENTALS OR FOR, UH, FOR HOT TAX." IT HAS TO BE TIED TO A SPECIFIC PROJECT. 
          AND SO FOR THE AUTHORIZATION OF THESE TAXES, A PROJECT HAS TO BE DESIGNATED AS PART OF THE, THE VENUE TAX. 
          UM, THIS ALSO DOES LIMIT US, FOR EXAMPLE, IF, IF THERE WERE TO BE ANOTHER VENUE HERE IN THE CITY OR WE WERE TO LOOK AT TAXES FOR THE PLANO EVENT CENTER, WE COULD NOT DO THAT BECAUSE STATE AUTHORIZED THESE TAXES FOR THE, FOR THIS SPECIFIC VENUE ITSELF. 
          UH, THE VOTE REALLY IS ON THE DECISION WHETHER THE CITY SHOULD, CAN USE THESE TAXES AS PART OF THE FUNDING PLAN FOR THE MOBILE MULTIPURPOSE ARENA. 
          UH, IF PROPOSITION A, THE PROPERTY TAX INCREASE, AND OUR ANSWER IS VENUE TAXES ARE LINKED SOLELY TO ACTIVITIES IDENTIFIED IN PROPOSITION A, MEANING THAT ONLY PARTICIPANTS OF THOSE ACTIVITIES WOULD PAY THE TAX. 
          SO PROPOSITION A IS NOT A PROPERTY TAX INCREASE, UH, FOR ALL PLANNER RESIDENTS. 
          UH, IF THIS IS NOT A TAX INCREASE, WHY DOES PROPOSITION A SAY THIS IS A TAX INCREASE? THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST COMMON QUESTIONS WE ARE RECEIVING. 
          AND LOOKING AT THE, UM, THE SAMPLE BALLOT, I'M SURE OUR, OUR COLLEAGUES AT COLLIN COUNTY AND COLLIN COLLEGE ARE SEEING THE SAME THING BECAUSE THEY BOTH HAVE PROPOSITIONS FOR PROJECTS THAT SAY THIS IS A TAX INCREASE. 
          UH, THIS IS A STATE LAW, UH, THAT'S REQUIRED FOR THE BALLOT. 
          ANY PROPOSITION SEEKING VOTER APPROVAL TO IMPOSE OR INCREASE THE TAX MUST PLACE THE WORD, THIS IS A TAX INCREASE. 
          HOWEVER, AS I MENTIONED, PROPOSITION A IS JUST LOOKING AT TAXES RELATED TO DIFFERENT, UH, TRANSACTIONS AND IS NOT A PROPERTY TAX INCREASE. 
          IS THESE FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTION CAPPED AT 700 MILLION, UM, OR ARE WE LOOKING IN TERMS OF OTHER TRAFFIC AND INFRASTRUCTURE SITE, UH, WORK REQUIRED? OUR FINANCIAL COMMITMENT TOWARD THE CONSTRUCTION ARENA IS CAPPED AT 700 MILLION. 
          THE COST FOR OFFSITE INFRASTRUCTURE AND TRAFFIC MITIGATION IS SUBJECT TO ONGOING DISCUSSIONS AND NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE DEVELOPER AND THE TEAM. 
          UH, WHO PAYS FOR THE EVENT, TRAFFIC CONTROL, SECURITY, INCLUDING POLICE, FIRE, STARS, ARENA, GAME? UH, THE CITY'S INTENT THE TEAM WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THESE SECURITY COSTS. 
          AND WHO PAYS THE ARENA'S ONGOING OPERATION COSTS FOR ELECTRIC, WATER, GAS, TRASH, CLEANING? AGAIN, THAT IS ALSO STATED IN THE LETTER OF INTENT THAT THE TEAM IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE OPERATION ROUTINE MAINTENANCE OF THE FACILITY ITSELF. 
          IF BONDS ARE PAID OFF EARLY, WOULD THAT ALLOW THE CITY TO END THE TURS EARLY BEFORE 41 YEARS? UH, YES. 
          IF BONDS ARE PAID OFF EARLY, THE CITY COULD AT THAT TIME HAVE THE ABILITY TO ADJUST THE TURS STRUCTURE, AND THAT TIMING IS REALLY, UH, PROJECTED BASED ON THE AVAILABLE FUNDING SOURCES AND THE BOND REQUIREMENTS. 
          UH, WHAT HAPPENS IS PROPOSITION A FAILS. 
          UH, THE CITY WILL REEVALUATE ITS CURRENT FUNDING SOURCES TO DETERMINE LONG-TERM FINANCING OPTIONS. 
          A FINAL MASTER AGREEMENT WILL STILL HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED BEFORE CITY COUNCIL BUT FOR THE PROJECT TO SUCCEED, TO PROCEED. 
          AND LASTLY, I'M GONNA ACTUALLY ASK OUR BOND COUNCIL HERE, GREG. 
          UH, THIS IS ONE THAT'S COME UP QUITE A BIT, AND HE, UH, EXPLAINS THIS MUCH BETTER BEING FROM THE BOND COUNCIL. 
          SO I'M GONNA LET GREG EXPLAIN THIS QUESTION OF, UH, WILL PLANO HAVE THE POTENTIAL OF PAYING OFF A SHORTFALL IF PROJECTIONS FAIL? HELLO, GREG SCHECKER WITH MCCALL PARKERS & HORTON, THE CITY'S BOND COUNCIL. 
          UM, THE CITY WOULD BE CONSIDERING THE BONDS TO BE ISSUED TO BE PAYABLE OUT OF THE TURS REVENUES AND/OR THE VENUE TAX REVENUES, AND POTENTIALLY THE, UH, PFZ REVENUES AS WELL. 
          SO THESE, THESE BONDS WOULD NOT BE GENERAL OBLIGATIONS OF THE CITY. 
          THEY'D BE OF THE SAME NATURE AS THE CITY'S, UH, DRAINAGE UTILITY SYSTEM REVENUE BONDS THAT Y'ALL ISSUE OR YOUR WATER AND SEWER SYSTEM REVENUE BONDS IN THAT THE BONDS ARE PAYABLE ONLY OUT OF THE, UM, THE REVENUES SPECIFICALLY PLEDGED TO THE BONDS. 
          SO THEY'RE CONSIDERED WHAT THE INDUSTRY CALLS, UM, SPECIAL OBLIGATIONS, NOT GENERAL OBLIGATIONS OF THE CITY. 
          AND THE, UM, THE TURS STATUTES AND THE, THE VENUE PROJECT STATUTES, BOTH OF THEM SPECIFICALLY PROVIDE THAT THOSE TYPES OF BONDS ARE NOT GENERAL OBLIGATIONS OF THE CITY. 
          THEY'RE NOT A CHARGE AGAINST THE CREDIT, UM, OR THE GENERAL TAXES OF THE CITY. 
          AND THEN COUNCIL, JUST, UH, AS A REMINDER, UH, VENUE TAXES, EARLY VOTING S- STARTS, UH, OCTOBER 19TH. 
          OUR ELECTION DAY IS NOVEMBER 3RD. 
          POLLING LOCATIONS AND HOURS, YOU CAN VISIT THE TWO WEBSITES HERE FOR BOTH COLLIN COUNTY AND DENTON COUNTY. 
          AND LAST, I'LL MENTION THIS, THE PROJECT FINANCE ZONE. 
          THIS IS THE STATE FINANCING TOOL, UH, TO LOOK AT A LARGE SCALE TOURISM AND DESTINATION PROJECTS ACROSS THE STATE. 
          UH, WE ARE RIGHT NOW WORKING WITH OUR PLANO-BASED STATE LEGISLATURES TO, UH, LEGISLATORS TO INDUCE, INTRODUCE BILLS AT THE UPCOMING LEGISLATIVE SESSION. 
          THIS, AGAIN, LOOKS AT ADDITIONAL FUNDING AND REVENUES THAT CAN SUPPORT PROJECT DEBT AND CAPITAL COSTS FOR ELIGIBLE PROJECTS. 
          WITH THAT, COUNCIL, I' HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, AND THEN WE HAVE OUR TEAM HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO THE FINANCING. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER CARE. 
          I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. 
          SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE TOURS, I NOTICED THAT, UM, THERE WAS NO MENTION OF COLLIN COUNTY PARTICIPATING. 
          UH, ANY THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT? SO WE, WE HAVE, UH, APPROACHED THE COUNTY. 
          THEY HAVE ACTUALLY, UM, TAKEN UP A POSITION THAT THE COUNTY WILL NOT PARTICIPATE IN ANY FUTURE TOURS AT THIS POINT. 
          SO THAT'S A POLICY 
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DECISION THAT WAS MADE WITHIN THE LAST TWO MONTHS. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND WHEN IT COMES TO POTENTIAL FUNDING FROM THE STATE, THIS, THAT'S THE THING YOU'RE MENTIONING JUST NOW, RIGHT? YES, SIR. 
          SO THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THERE, UH, THAT REQUIRES LEGISLATIVE ACTION. 
          YES, SIR. 
          AND IT'S, THIS, THIS TOOL IS REALLY DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY FOR PROJECTS OF THIS SIZE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I'M CURIOUS, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT COMPARISON VENUES WHERE YOU, WE TOOK OUT ARLINGTON FOR S- SOME OF THE THINGS LIKE RELAT- RELATING TO THE RESIDENTS AND THEIR VALUES, ARE WE CONSISTENT WITH THE, THE VENUES WE'RE COMPARING WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT ASPECTS, WHETHER IT'S TRAFFIC, REVENUE, AND ALL THOSE SORTS OF THINGS? UH, I, I WOULD SAY, COUNCILMAN, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL OF THESE EVENTS FOR DIFFERENT ELEMENTS. 
          SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WHAT TOOLS ARE USED, HOW TRAFFIC IS MANAGED, THINGS LIKE THAT, WE HAVE LOOKED AT ARLINGTON, AND WE ACTUALLY SPENT AN AFTERNOON WITH THEIR STAFF LOOKING AT THAT. 
          SO I THINK IT DEPENDS ON THE SPECIFIC ISSUE THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO STUDY AND TRYING TO FIND THOSE THAT HAVE THE MOST IN COMMON WITH WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ANSWER. 
          SO WE, WE DO LOOK AT THE, AT SOME OTHER ELEMENTS. 
          SO WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT, UH, WHO'S USING, UH, WHICH TAXES, HOW THESE THINGS ARE MANAGED, WE WILL LOOK AT ANYBODY THAT CAN CONTRIBUTE AND PROVIDE US COMPARABLE INFORMATION. 
          SO IT VARIES FROM ISSUE TO ISSUE. 
          AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE REASON WHY HAVING ELEVATE AS OUR CONSULTANT, THEY'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT IT BECAUSE THEY, THAT'S, THIS IS WHAT THEY DO IS THEY'RE LOOKING AT ARENAS AND REVENUES. 
          UH, SO THEY WILL LOOK AT IT SPECIFICALLY FROM A HOCKEY PERSPECTIVE, THEY'LL LOOK AT IT FROM A PERFORMANCE PERSPECTIVE, AND ALLOW US TO LOOK AT IT MORE COMPARABLE SIZE OF WHAT WE COULD EXPECT FROM THIS VENUE. 
          UM, MY LAST QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH THE, THE, THE VOTE WE'RE HAVING IN NOVEMBER. 
          THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT TAXATION ITEMS ON THERE, LIKE TICKET TAXES. 
          DO WE HAVE THE OPTION THAT THERE'S A VALUE SET IN THERE? I MEAN, I GUESS THAT'S A MAXIMUM VALUE. 
          DO WE ON COUNCIL HAVE AN OPTION OF SETTING THE VALUE FOR THE T- TICKET OR SHORT-TERM MINOR - MOTOR VEHICLE, ET CETERA? YES, SIR. 
          SO THESE OPT - THESE TICKETS, IF THEY'RE AUTHORIZED BY THE VOTERS, WILL COME BACK BEFORE YOU, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO EITHER ENACT THE TAXES OR ENACT THEM AT A LOWER PERCENTAGE. 
          WHAT WE'VE ASKED THE VOTERS IS TO CAP THEM AT THE, AT THE MAXIMUM AND ALLOW CITY COUNCIL TO BRING THOSE DOWN IF YOU FEEL THEY SHOULD BE, UH, LOWER THAN WHAT THE MAXIMUM ALLOWS. 
          WILL THERE BE SOME ADDITIONAL, UM, I GUESS STUDY OF THOSE THINGS TO SEE IF THERE'S MAYBE SOME UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES TO SOME OF THESE TAXES IN WHICH IT MAY NOT, IT MAY ACTUALLY IMPACT OUR RESIDENTS AS OPPOSED TO THE, THE CONCERT GOER OR THE, OR THE STAR SCHEME SCHOOL? SURE. 
          COUNCIL, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S A DIRECTION YOU'D LIKE US TO TAKE A LOOK AT. 
          WE COULD LOOK AT, UM, INDIVIDUALS' TAXES AND SEE WHAT THE IMPACTS WERE. 
          UM, THAT'S SOMETHING I KNOW OF, ELEVATE IS LOOKING A LITTLE, LITTLE BIT ON SOME OF THE, THE VENUE RELATED TAXES, THE VENUE, THE PARKING ITSELF, BUT THERE ARE OTHER TAXES YOU'D LIKE US TO TAKE A LOOK AT. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          I, I THINK WE HAVE SOMETHING TODAY WE'RE LOOKING AT RE- REGARDING THIS, IS THAT RIGHT? FROM THE SHORT-TERM MOTOR VEHICLE TAX? Y - OR IS THAT- THAT, THAT'S JUST ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE, THE, THE COLLECTIVE GROUP THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AT THIS POINT. 
          BUT YOU DID RECEIVE AN EMAIL TODAY - OKAY. 
          REGARDING SOME OF THAT. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER DOWNS. 
          UH, THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UM, DCM MCDONALD, COUNCIL MEMBER CARE HAD ALREADY ASKED MY QUESTION. 
          IT HAD, IT HAD TO DO WITH THE, UM, THE TAXATION OF THE MOTOR VEHICLES FOR RENTALS AND OUR OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THAT AND DECIDE IF THIS PASSED WITH THE VOTERS, COULD WE DECIDE THAT WE WEREN'T GOING TO ENACT THAT TAX IF WE FELT THAT IT WOULD BE AN ADVERSE IMPACT ON PLANO RESIDENTS WHO MIGHT NEED TO RENT CARS BECAUSE THEIR CARS ARE IN THE SHOPS? YES, MA'AM. 
          YOU, UH, THE COUNCIL WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO ENACT ANY OF THOSE TAXES, UM, IF THE VOTERS AUTHORIZE THEM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER LEVINE. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UM, DOUG, UH, I SAW IN THE, THE NOTES HERE THAT THE VENUE TAXES COULD RAISE UP TO 700 MILLION. 
          IS, WAS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR. 
          AND - COLLECTIVELY. 
          COLLECTIVELY. 
          COLLECTIVELY. 
          OVER 30. 
          AND THE, UH, THE TURS COULD RAISE APPROXIMATELY... 
          THE ESTIMATES WE SHOW IS 1.6 BILLION OVER THAT, THAT 41-YEAR TIMEFRAME. 
          AND THE... 
          IF, IF THE ELECTION PASSES, UH, THOSE TWO WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO PAY, PAY OFF THE 700 MILLION. 
          YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR FINANCIAL MODELING IS SHOWING OF HOW THOSE TWO, UM, SOURCES CAN, CAN FUND THE DEBT, UH, THEN THE C - THE COMMITMENT FROM THE CITY SIDE. 
          UM, HOWEVER, WE ALSO WILL LOOK AT OTHER TOOLS. 
          WE KNOW THE MARKET HAS ITS UPS AND DOWNS TOO, SO THAT'S WHY THE OTHER, THE PROJECT FINANCE ZONE IS ALSO AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF THIS, IS TO CONTINUE TO FIND OTHER RESOURCES, OTHER, UH, AVENUES TO CONTINUE TO, TO, UM, UH, MAKE SURE THAT THE, THE CONTRIBUTION TO THE CITY SIDE IS, IS SUPPORTED AND, AND, UM, CAN WORK ON THE FINANCING SIDE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, AND FOLLOWING ON THAT, UM, THE PARKING TAX, UH, IS A KEY REVENUE UH, 
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AND IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE TO OUR ADVANTAGE TO HAVE AS MANY PARKING SPACES AS POSSIBLE, UH, SO THAT WE CAN CHARGE THAT TAX ON, UH, PARKING AT, AT THE, THE VENUE. 
          UM, SO ARE, ARE WE ENCOURAGING THAT AS OPPOSED TO HAVING OFFSITE PARKING? YES, SIR. 
          I THINK, UM, HAVING AS MUCH PARKING ON THE SIDE IS, AND BE ABLE TO PARK FOR ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF USES IS SOMETHING THAT BOTH, UH, CITY MANAGER AND I, UM, HAVE EXPRESSED A LOT WITH THE, THE DEVELOPER. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE BENEFITS TO, TO, UM, HAVING THE PARKING A LITTLE BIT MORE DISPERSED IN TERMS OF EVERYONE COMING TO ONE LOCATION, MAYBE IT'S THE SOUTH WHERE THERE'S MORE OF THE BUSINESS SIDE AND FURTHER AWAY FROM THE RESIDENTS. 
          HOWEVER, YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          UM, WE WILL ONLY BE ABLE TO CHARGE THE PARKING WITH THIS TAX THAT ARE ON THE SITE ITSELF. 
          UM, THE 5,000 NUMBERS NUMBER WE HAVE USED IS A VERY CONSERVATIVE NUMBER. 
          WE WANT IT TO BE AS CONSERVATIVE AS POSSIBLE. 
          WE KNOW THERE WILL BE MORE PARKING SPACES ON THE SIDE THAN 5,000. 
          OKAY. 
          AND FINALLY, UM, THE HOTEL TAX WOULD BE FOR ALL HOTELS IN PLANO? YES, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S NOT JUST WITHIN THE TOURS AREA, UM, BUT IT, IT COVERS THE, THE S - THE LAND AREA OF PLANO. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS. 
          GOING BACK TO... 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR MARTZ. 
          GOING BACK TO, UM, SLIDE 46, UM, THERE WAS A QUESTION OF WHO PAYS FOR EVENT TRAFFIC CONTROL, CONTROL AND SECURITY, INCLUDING POLICE AT THE STARS ARENA EVENTS. 
          UH, IT SAYS THAT THE INTENT IS THAT THE TEAM WILL BE RESPONSIBLE. 
          IS THAT BECAUSE THEY WILL BE THE TENANTS OF THIS, UM, AREA? THEY WOULD AND THAT WOULD ALSO BE PASSED OFF OF ANYONE WHO'S USING THE VENUE. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, IF THE, IF THERE'S A CONCERT, THE CONCERT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO THAT, TO, TO PAY THOSE, UH, THOSE FEES. 
          UM, CHIEF DURAN ACTUALLY HAS A LOT OF EXPERIENCE TALKING TO NEIGHBORING CITIES OF HOW THAT IS DONE, BUT YES, THE INTENT IS THAT THE, UH, THAT IS NOT A COST TO THE CITY, THAT'S A COST, UH, TO THE TEAM OR TO THE, UH, OPERATOR THAT, UH, THAT EVENING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU, DOUG. 
          UH, NEXT, NEXT ITEM IS PUBLIC SAFETY UPDATE. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME SPEAK, UH, ABOUT THIS. 
          UH, ONE OF THE THINGS, UH, WE DID WHENEVER WE FIRST FOUND OUT THAT THE STARS COULD POTENTIALLY BE COMING TO PLANO IS WE, UH, WE STARTED TO REACH OUT TO OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE, HAVE, UH, SPORTS FRANCHISES AND JUST TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT WHAT THEIR EMERGENCY RESPONSE, THEIR STAFFING LOOKS LIKE FOR, FOR THOSE. 
          AND SO, UH, UH, THEN WE WENT OVER AND, UH, SPENT THE DAY OVER IN ARLINGTON JUST KIND OF WALKING THROUGH THAT WITH THEM ON HOW THEY, HOW THEY HANDLE, UH, THE DIFFERENT EVENTS. 
          AND SO, UM, IN, IN DOING THAT, WE, WE LOOKED AT THAT AND WE ALSO KIND OF TRIED TO LOOK AT THAT AREA OVER THERE AND, AND TO TRY TO DETERMINE WHAT, UH, WHAT OUR RESPONSE LOOKS LIKE, WHAT, WHAT THE NUMBER OF CALLS WE MAKE LOOK LIKE. 
          SO IF YOU, YOU LOOK AT THAT FIRST SLIDE THERE, YOU CAN SEE THAT, UM, WE, WE PUT A STAR THERE ABOUT WHERE WE THOUGHT THE, THE, THE ARENA AREA WOULD BE AND THEN WENT OUT ABOUT HALF A MILE. 
          AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 343 EMERGENCY CALLS IN THAT AREA, UH, SO FAR THIS YEAR, AND THAT'S ABOUT 1.4% OF OUR, OF OUR TOTAL CALL VOLUME. 
          AND YOU ALSO NOTICE ON THAT SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE STATION NINE UP THERE IN THE BLUE AREA, THAT'S THEIR DISTRICT. 
          YOU SEE STATION FIVE IN THE, THE PINK OR RED AREA, THAT'S THEIR DISTRICT. 
          AND, AND REALLY ONE OF THE KIND OF THE NICE THINGS ABOUT WHERE THE, THE, THE POTENTIAL SITE THERE IS, IS IT'S RIGHT ON THE BORDER OF THOSE TWO, UH, STATIONS. 
          AND SO IT ALLOWS YOU TO COME FROM TWO DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS IN A EMERGENCY RESPONSE LIKE THAT. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT WE ALWAYS LOOK AT, UM, UH, PROBABLY SPEND THE MOST OF OUR TIME MEASURING, AND THAT IS OUR RESPONSE TIMES, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT'S A BIG DEAL TO THE CITIZENS. 
          WE KNOW THAT AFFECTS THE, THE, THE CARE WE'RE ABLE TO GIVE, UH, ON THOSE CALLS. 
          AND SO THAT AREA, THAT SAME AREA THAT'S HALF A MILE RADIUS AROUND THERE, UM, THE AVERAGE RESPONSE TIME THERE IS ABOUT SIX MINUTES AND 15 SECONDS. 
          AND, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE REST OF THE CITY'S RESPONSE TIME, THE AVERAGE THERE IS ABOUT FIVE MINUTES AND 44 SECONDS. 
          AND THE REASON YOU SEE, UH, A 30 SECOND, UH, DIFFERENCE THERE IS BECAUSE IT, IT IS RIGHT ON THE EDGE OF THOSE TWO DISTRICTS. 
          SO IT'S AS FAR AWAY FROM THE, THE TWO STATIONS IN THOSE TWO DISTRICTS AS YOU CAN GET. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE A LITTLE BIT, A LITTLE BIT, UH, UH, LONGER RESPONSE TIME THERE. 
          SO WHEN WE TALKED TO ARLINGTON AND WENT OVER TO ARLINGTON, WE KIND OF, YOU CAN SEE THE RED WHERE WE OUTLINED THERE. 
          UH, THERE'S NOTHING SCIENTIFIC ABOUT THAT. 
          THAT'S JUST A RED LINE AROUND THERE JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT WE TALKED TO THEM ABOUT. 
          REALLY TALK TO THEM ABOUT TWO THINGS IN THERE. 
          ONE OF THEM IS TO TAKE THAT AREA, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE THE ARENA IN THE, THE CENTER, THE PARKING AROUND 
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IT, AND THEN SOME OF THE BUSINESSES RIGHT AROUND THAT. 
          AND, AND THEY, THEY TRY TO TREAT THAT LIKE A SEPARATE DISTRICT. 
          IN OTHER WORDS, UH, THEY PUT, THEY PUT ENOUGH RESOURCES, UH, IN THERE WHERE THEY CAN HANDLE EMERGENCY CALLS, WHETHER IT'S A EMS CALL OR, OR A RESCUE, SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT. 
          THEY PUT THOSE IN THERE. 
          THEY ALSO HAVE A COMMAND STRUCTURE SET UP IN THERE. 
          ALL THAT SET UP AS IF IT'S A, AS IF IT'S A, A SEPARATE DISTRICT. 
          THAT WAY, WHENEVER YOU, WHEN YOU LOOK BACK AT, AT THE, THAT WAY, STATION FIVE AND STATION NINE, THEY JUST OPERATE AS U - AS NORMAL IN THEIR OWN DISTRICTS AND THEY TREAT THAT, THAT, UH, THAT DISTRICT WHERE THE EVENT IS, UH, SEPARATELY. 
          AND SO, UM, THAT WAS ONE OF THE, THE THINGS THAT, THAT THEY DID. 
          AND WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE IS, IS YOU'D HAVE, YOU'D HAVE, UM, EMS CARTS, YOU'D HAVE, UM, UH, AMBULANCES ALREADY STATIONED THERE, YOU'D HAVE A, A COMMAND POST THERE, UM, AND YOU WOULD HAVE OBVIOUSLY FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDICS, UH, STAFFING ALL OF THOSE, UH, DURING, UH, DURING THAT TIME, UH, WITH, WITH THE INTENT. 
          AND ALSO KIND OF A, A, A CLINIC TYPE SITUATION THERE TOO. 
          SO ANY OF THE MINOR, UH, MEDICAL STUFF THEY CAN HANDLE ON SCENE, THAT WAY YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT TRANSPORTING VERY MEAN. 
          I'LL GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THEY, THEY TOLD ME FOR, FOR THE, UH, AT&T STADIUM. 
          THEY SAID THEY HAVE ABOUT, USUALLY HAVE ABOUT 50 CALLS FOR SERVICE INSIDE THAT AREA AND, AND THEY'LL, THEY'LL MAKE ABOUT SEVEN TRANSPORTS, UH, BY AMBULANCE OUT OF THERE IN A WEEK. 
          AND THAT'S MUCH LARGER, A LOT MORE PEOPLE THERE. 
          SO, SO YOU CAN KIND OF SCALE THAT DOWN TO, TO WHAT YOU'D PROBABLY BE LOOKING AT THERE. 
          AND THE LAST THING I ASKED THEM, I SAID, I SAID, "WHAT ABOUT THE AREAS SURROUNDING THAT? HOW, HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU RESPOND WITH THE TRAFFIC? WHAT'S YOUR PLAN FOR THAT?" AND THEY SAID, WHAT THEY DID WAS THEY, THEY DEVELOPED A, AN EMERGENCY TRAFFIC PLAN AND, AND I'M, I'M GONNA LOOK DOWN SO I CAN READ EXACTLY WHAT THEY SAID, BUT THEY SAID THEY HAD PRE-ESTABLISHED EMERGENCY LANES, UH, COORDINATED TRAFFIC CONTROL POINTS, AND THEN THE UNIFIED COMMAND WORKING AT THAT POINT TO MAKE SURE. 
          AND I ASKED THEM, I SAID, "WERE Y'ALL ABLE TO KEEP YOUR SAME, YOUR SAME, UH, RESPONSE TIMES FROM THE, THE STATIONS AROUND THERE IN THOSE DISTRICTS?" AND THEY SAID THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BE WITH, WITH THAT PLAN. 
          SO, UH, I'LL STOP TALKING THERE AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING. 
          YES. 
          UH, THANKS, CHIEF. 
          APPRECIATE THE, THE PRESENTATION. 
          UM, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE WAS WITH REGARDS TO EQUIPMENT APPARATUS THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY. 
          WITH THIS LARGE STRUCTURE, DO YOU ENVISION THAT WE MAY HAVE TO NEED TO PURCHASE A SPECIAL LADDER TRUCK, LET'S SAY, OR SOMETHING BECAUSE OF THE SHEER SCOPE OR SIZE OF THIS SINGLE ENCLOSED STADIUM OR ARENA? DO YOU THINK THAT WE'RE GONNA NEED TO THINK ABOUT PURCHASING ONE OF THOSE IN THE FUTURE? I, I DON'T. 
          UH, RIGHT NOW, THE, THE, THE LADDER TRUCKS THAT WE HAVE ARE ABOUT AS LARGE OF LADDER TRUCKS AS YOU CAN, YOU CAN GET. 
          MOST OF THEM ARE 105 TO 100 AND I THINK EIGHT OR NINE FEET TALL. 
          UM, THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH TOP OF THE LINE. 
          THEN YOU, YOU'RE NOT, YOU REALLY, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET A MUCH LARGER ONE THAN THAT. 
          AND I KINDA LOOKED AT WHAT ARLINGTON DID. 
          THEY, THEY DIDN'T REALLY CHANGE ANY, ANYTHING AS FAR AS THEIR EQUIPMENT IN THAT RESPECT. 
          YOU, THERE, THERE'LL BE SOME NEED PROBABLY FOR, FOR A COUPLE OF CARTS THAT YOU USE TO RESPOND IN LI- LIKE YOU SEE AT BALLOON FEST, YOU SEE US OPERATING OUT OF THERE, SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT. 
          BUT, BUT I DON'T SEE ANY SIGNIFICANT, UH, EQUIPMENT PURCHASE THAT WOULD GO ALONG WITH IT. 
          THANKS, CHIEF. 
          YES, SIR. 
          SO, UM, CHIEF, I, I, I, I JUST NEED SOME CLARIFICATION. 
          SO YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, UM, WHEN YOU WENT AND VISIT ARLINGTON, THAT THEY HAVE LIKE A, UM, A DEDICATED, UM, I GUESS FIRE STATION, WHICH INSIDE ARENA. 
          IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING THAT WE LOOK INTO OR... 
          N- NO, IT, UM, THEY, THEY DON'T HAVE A DEDICATED FIRE STATION THERE WITH... 
          THEY'LL KEEP THEIR EQUIPMENT ON SITE AND THEN THEY'LL STAFF IT DURING THE EVENTS. 
          BUT I, I DON'T THINK WE WOULD NEED TO DO ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF, OUTSIDE OF THAT. 
          UM, THE, THEY, UH, WHAT I WAS, I GUESS WHAT I WAS MORE TRYING TO SAY IS YOU STAFF IT WITH ENOUGH, ENOUGH RESOURCES TO WHERE YOU CAN HANDLE ANYTHING WITHIN THAT AREA, AND THAT WAY YOU FREE UP THE, YOUR, YOUR NORMAL STATIONS THAT ARE OPERATING OUT THERE NOT TO BE AFFECTED BY, BY THE EVENTS THAT ARE GOING ON. 
          YEAH, I, I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD IDEA BECAUSE, UM, IT, IT WOULD LESSEN THE BURDEN FOR BOTH, UM, BOTH OF THE STATIONS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THAT ZONE. 
          YES. 
          SO ARE YOU GO - ARE YOU PROPOSING, LIKE, MAYBE HAVING A, UM, A DEDICATED SITE ON, UM, ON THAT, UM, LOCATION IN WHICH, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE NEED A MAN, UM, THE STATION, PEOPLE COULD JUST COME IN AND BE ABLE TO, TO, TO, TO WORK IMMEDIATELY? WHAT, WHAT THEY HAVE OVER THERE, AND, AND IT, IT, IT LOOKS LIKE A GOOD, A GOOD SYSTEM, BUT THEY, THEY HAVE THE, THE CARTS AND THEY'LL STAGE THEM ALL OVER THE, THE PLACE, MAYBE SOME, UH, UH, OUTSIDE AND THE REST OF THEM ON MAYBE THE DIFFERENT LEVELS, 
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BUT ALSO THEY'LL, THEY HAVE A, A CLINIC INSIDE THAT THEY'LL STAFF, THAT WAY YOU CAN RESPOND, BRING PEOPLE TO THAT, TO THAT CLINIC IN THERE. 
          AND IT, SO IT'S NOT USUALLY A, A, NECESSARILY A FIXED SITE. 
          YOU WILL HAVE A COMMAND THAT, THAT'S IN THERE UNIFIED WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND, AND THEY'LL, THEY'LL RECEIVE THE CALLS AND THEN THEY'LL DISPATCH THEM TO THE DIFFERENT PLACES IN THERE. 
          SO, SO YOU ENVISION LIKE A MOBILE SITE? YES. 
          IT, IT'LL, IT'LL BE MORE LIKE WHAT YOU SEE IS WHEN WE'RE OPERATING AT, AT THE BALLOON FEST, WE HAVE PEOPLE ON BICYCLES OUT THERE AND CARTS AND IT, IT WOULD BE MORE, MORE ALONG THAT LINES. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          ALL RIGHT, THANKS. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR MUNS. 
          THANK YOU, CHIEF BIGGERSTAFF FOR BEING HERE. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, WHEN YOU, UM, FIRST APPROACHED US AND YOU EXPLAINED THAT YOU, I GUESS, SPOKE WITH OTHER CITIES REGARDING THEIR PLANS, THEIR EMERGENCY PLANS. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          MM-HMM. 
          UM, HAVE YOU GUYS TAKEN A L - TAKEN A LOOK AT THE, THE CITIES THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY? AND THE REASON WHY I ASKED, UM, HAVE YOU APPROACHED THEM BECAUSE THEY HAVE SOME OF THE SAME CHARACTERISTICS THAT WE MAY HAVE? WE, WE DIDN'T. 
          WE TRIED TO PICK... 
          ONE, WE PICKED ARLINGTON ONE BECAUSE WE KNEW WE COULD ACTUALLY GO OVER THERE AND VISIT, UH, VISIT THEIR... 
          WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE, UH, THE, THE TRAINING FACILITY THEY HAVE IN FRISCO, SPOKE WITH DALLAS, UH, BECAUSE, I MEAN, THEY'RE OPERATING THERE NOW, SO WE FELT LIKE YOU COULD PRETTY, GET A PRETTY GOOD, UH, COMPARISON THERE. 
          AND THEN WE, UH, TALKED TO LAS VEGAS BECAUSE THEY WERE ONE OF THE, THE MORE RECENT, UH, ARENAS THAT HAD BEEN BUILT. 
          SO TH- THOSE WERE THE ONES THAT, THAT WE'VE SPOKEN WITH, WITH SO FAR. 
          MM-HMM. 
          'CAUSE WE WERE MORE FOCUSED ON, ON WHAT KIND OF OPERATIONS PLAN, WHAT KIND OF STAFFING ARE WE LOOKING AT? AND SO WE WERE TRYING TO PICK SOME THINGS THAT, THAT WE FELT LIKE WOULD CLOSEST MIRROR WHAT WE WERE DOING. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT WE SPEAK WITH THE CITIES THAT ARE IDENTIFIED IN THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY AND TALKED ABOUT WITH THE, UH, COMMITTEE THAT WAS FORMED, BECAUSE THEY MAY BE ABLE TO GIVE US SOME GOOD IDEAS AS TO HOW THEIR EMERGENCY PLANS ARE LAID OUT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND IT MAY ALSO KEEP, UH, CONSISTENT DATA AS WELL. 
          SURE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          DEPUTY MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UM, MINE'S NOT NECESSARILY QUESTIONS, BUT MORE COMMENT. 
          UM, I WAS WRITING ALL THESE QUESTIONS FOR YOU AND GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS, BUT AS I WAS WRITING THEM DOWN, YOU KEPT ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION, MY QUESTIONS, AND THEN AT ONE POINT I JUST DROPPED MY PEN, SO - ... 
          YOUR PRESENTATION ARE THE TYPE OF PRESENTATIONS I LIKE TO LISTEN TO, BECAUSE THEN I, REFRAINS ME FROM HAVING TO ASK THE QUESTION, SO THANK YOU AND ACTUALLY, HONESTLY, JUST THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT PART OF THE JOB. 
          SO IT'S JUST A COMMENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER CARE. 
          HEY, CHIEF, UH, YOU ALREADY ADDRESSED IT, BUT I'D LIKE YOU TO REITERATE IT ONE MORE TIME. 
          WHEN IT COMES TO TRAFFIC, LET'S SAY THE STADIUM, THE ARENA IS, IS, EVERYBODY'S SHOWING UP FOR IT, AND THEN YOU HAVE AN EMERGENCY CALL. 
          MM-HMM. 
          HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU GET IN AND HOW DO YOU GET OUT TO TAKE CARE OF IT? 'CAUSE THAT'S SOME OF THE CONCERNS FROM THE RES - PARTICULARLY, UH, NOT NECESSARILY HAPPENING AT THE, AT THE ARENA. 
          MAYBE THERE'S A RESIDENCE NEARBY IN WHICH THERE'S A PROBLEM. 
          RIGHT. 
          NO, YOU'RE, YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. 
          THAT WAS, THAT WAS ONE OF MY BIGGEST THOUGHTS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S ALL THE TIME WHAT WE LOOK AT IS WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR RESPONSE TIMES. 
          AND, UH, MR. ISELSON KNOWS THIS BECAUSE WE MEET WITH HIM ALL THE TIME TALKING ABOUT, ABOUT THAT, AND THAT'S WHY WE'VE ADDED AMBULANCES AND DIFFERENT THINGS TO TRY TO MAINTAIN THAT RESPONSE TIME. 
          AND, UH, AND SO I, I, THAT'S, I CALLED THE CHIEF WHO WAS OVER THAT. 
          ACTUALLY, OUR, OUR OPERATIONS CHIEF CALLED HIM AND ASKED HIM SPECIFICALLY, SAID, "OKAY, WALK ME THROUGH WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, UM, WHEN YOUR STATIONS THAT ARE AROUND IT ARE RESPONDING. 
          HOW, HOW DO THEY GET THERE IN THAT TIME?" AND, AND HE'S, HE SAID, "W - THEY HAVE DEDICATED LANES THAT ARE, THAT ARE FOR, UH, EMERGENCY, UH, APPARATUS, AND THEY ALSO, UH, HAVE, HAVE DIFFERENT PLANS TO GET TO, TO THOSE PLACES, UH, DURING THAT TIME." AND SO YOU SHARE THAT WITH THE SURROUNDING STATIONS SO THAT THEY'RE FAMILIAR ALREADY WITH WHAT THOSE PLANS ARE. 
          PLUS, YOU HAVE COMMAND, UH, THAT'S WORKING IN THERE. 
          SO IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING OUT OF THE ORDINARY GOING ON, WHICH YOU COULD, OBVIOUSLY, UH, AND, UH, THEY'RE WILLING, THEY'RE ABLE TO SHARE THAT SAME INFORMATION THERE WITH US. 
          SO, UM, THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S HOW I WOULD PICTURE, I WOULD PICTURE DEVELOPING THAT IN THE, IN THE EMERGENCY PLAN. 
          IT, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WHO OBVIOUSLY HAVE A LOT MORE EXPERIENCE IN DEVELOPING A PLAN LIKE THAT, UH, THAN, THAN WE DO, BUT WORKING WITH THEM AND KIND OF JUST, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, COMPARING OTHER CITIES TO HOW, HOW THEY, UH, HOW THEY WERE ABLE TO MANAGE THAT, THAT PIECE OF IT. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ABOUT S- SOMETHING MORE SIGNIFICANT HAPPENING IN WHICH THERE'S A, A LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO ARE INJURED? H- HOW DO YOU TAKE CARE OF THAT? WE, WE HAVE, UH, UM, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE, UH, SOPS FOR MULTI- MULTI, UH, CASUALTY INCIDENTS OR ACTIVE SHOOTER INCIDENTS THAT ARE REALLY DESIGNED FOR, FOR THAT PURPOSE. 
          AND WE, WE, UH, WE DO A, A, A DRILL WITH, UH, WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UM, EACH YEAR AND, AND GO THROUGH EVENTS LIKE THAT, JUST 
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PRACTICING IF YOU HAVE A LARGE EVENT, HOW TO RESPOND TO IT, HOW TO, YOU KNOW, UM, HOW TO DEVELOP YOUR COMMAND STRUCTURE, HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU, UH, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY RESOURCES DOES IT TAKE? WHAT DOES THAT PART LOOK LIKE? SO, SO WE DO PRACTICE FOR THOSE, FOR THOSE AND, AND IT WOULD, WE WOULD DO THE SAME THING. 
          AND I, I THINK AS YOU GOT CLOSER, BE, YOU WOULD JUST, YOU WOULD TRAIN FOR THOSE TYPE OF EVENTS. 
          YOU WOULD, YOU, YOU WOULD KNOW WHAT THE FACILITY LOOKED LIKE, YOU'D KNOW WHAT THE RESPONSE LOOKED LIKE, AND YOU WOULD JUST TRAIN FOR THOSE, THOSE SPECIFIC EVENTS, UM, AT, AT THAT FACILITY. 
          I KNOW THAT DURING THE BALLOON FEST, THAT YOU BRING IN RESOURCES FROM NEIGHBORING CITIES AS WELL. 
          IS THIS, IS THAT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US HERE AS, IN THIS SITUATION? UH, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SIDE, BECAUSE I, FOR US, THE, THE NUMBER OF, OF, OF PERSONNEL, THE STAFFING THERE AND, AND THE, UH, APPARATUS THAT WOULD, THAT WE'D BE THERE WOULD BE PRETTY SMALL COMPARED TO WHAT THE, THE FOOTPRINT THAT I THINK THAT THE, THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WOULD PROBABLY HAVE IN THAT CASE. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          THANK YOU, CHIEF. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, CHIEF. 
          YES, THANK YOU. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          WELCOME, CHIEF. 
          YEAH, HELLO, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, WITH, UH, THIS ARENA COMING AND THIS BEING A MIXED USE ENVIRONMENT, WE HAVE TWO THINGS WE HAVE TO LOOK AT FROM THE POLICE PART. 
          UH, TYPICALLY WHEN WE HAVE A MIXED USE ENVIRONMENT, WE PUT A, A, UM, UH, WHAT WE CALL A STOREFRONT LOCATION UP THERE. 
          UH, WE DON'T KNOW HOW BIG, HOW DEEP, HOW WIDE THIS IS, SO WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE IF WE'RE GONNA NEED ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          BUT THIS JUST KINDA GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF, I THINK WE GOT, WE'RE TALKING 90 ACRES FOR THIS, FOR THIS AREA HERE. 
          SO, UH, THAT MAY BE A POSSIBILITY WE DO IF THAT AREA IS GONNA BE BUSY WHEN THEY'RE NOT HAVING GAMES OR CONCERTS OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          AND JUST S- SOME OF WHAT WE HAVE AT SOME OF OUR OTHER, UM, UH, UM, MIXED USE ENVIRONMENTS. 
          UH, O- ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, AND I'LL SHOW YOU MY RESPONSE TIME NUMBERS HERE IN A MINUTE, BUT, UH, O- ONE OF THE THINGS WE THINK IS GOING TO HELP WITH OUR RESPONSE TIME IS GETTING THERE IS OUR DRONE AS A FIRST RESPONDER. 
          I BRIEFED THE COUNCIL ON THAT A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, SO WE SHOULD BE MAYBE THIS MONTH OR WITHIN THE NEXT THREE TO FOUR, FIVE, SIX WEEKS, SHOULD HAVE OUR, UH, DFR PROGRAM UP AND RUNNING, AND THAT'S GONNA HELP US GET EYES ON TO, UH, THAT, THAT AREA PRETTY QUICKLY. 
          UH, THESE ARE OUR RESPONSE TIMES THAT WE HAVE, JUST LIKE WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THESE ARE VERY, VERY CRITICAL FOR US IN, UH, LAW ENFORCEMENT. 
          WE HAVE, UH, SET RESPONSE TIMES FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF CALLS. 
          SO A PRIORITY ONE CALL IS A, UH, CRIME IN, UH, THAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW. 
          SOMEONE IS TRYING TO BREAK INTO YOUR HOUSE OR SOMEONE IS IN A FIGHT OR, OR WHATEVER. 
          AND THEN OUR GOAL IS TO GET THERE I- I- IN UNDER FIVE MINUTES. 
          UH, LAST YEAR WE WERE AT 4.43. 
          WE'RE ACTUALLY IN THREE MINUTES AND SOME CHANGE SO FAR THIS YEAR IN 2026. 
          AND THEN FOR ALL OTHER CALLS FOR SERVICE, REGARDLESS OF, UH, WHAT IT IS, UH, OUR GOAL IS TO GET THERE IN UNDER EIGHT MINUTES, AND OF COURSE WE'RE UNDER THAT AS WELL. 
          THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE GONNA GET TO EVERY CALL. 
          OF COURSE, WE'RE GONNA TAKE THE AGGREGATE OF OUR CALLS IN A MONTH, IN A QUARTER, IN A YEAR, AND IT IS TYPICALLY GOING TO BE BELOW FIVE MINUTES AND EIGHT MINUTES FOR THOSE TYPES OF CALLS. 
          AND SO, UH, WE'VE GOT A LOT TO LOOK AT WITH THIS, BUT, UH, WE HAVE NOT, WE DON'T HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE WITH AN INDOOR ARENA PROFESSIONAL FOOT - UH, PROFESSIONAL HOCKEY TEAM, OF COURSE. 
          UH, BUT WE DO HAVE, UH, FOOTBALL GAMES. 
          AND, UH, SO, UH, OUR CLOCK STADIUM, 15,000 PEOPLE ROUGHLY, UH, MAYBE, UH, 10 TO 20,000 PEOPLE WILL BE AT THIS EVENT, SO THAT THE TYPE OF TRAFFIC THAT, THAT COMES, UH, WITH THIS EVENT, WE THINK THAT WE CAN HANDLE THAT BASED ON OUR EXPERIENCE WITH THAT, WITH THE, UM, UH, FIREWORKS SHOW AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          AND, UH, BUT OUR KEY ON, UH, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE READY FOR THIS IS OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS. 
          WE DO A, WE HAVE A FOUR-YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN THAT WE UPDATE EVERY TWO YEARS. 
          WE'LL BE DOING THAT AGAIN HERE IN 2027. 
          AND, UH, BY THEN, WE WILL HAVE A BETTER IDEA, I THINK, OF WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SET AND READY TO GO WHEN THE STARS GET HERE. 
          THANK YOU, CHIEF. 
          ANY QUESTIONS FOR CHIEF? COUNCIL MEMBER LEVINE. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UM, CHIEF, UM, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS, AND I, AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND YOU DON'T HAVE, UH, A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH, WITH AN INDOOR ARENA, BUT ARE YOU ANTICIPATING ADDITIONAL STAFFING NECESSARY OR WOULD THIS JUST BE A REDEPLOYMENT DURING, UH, THE, THE GAME TIMES? WELL, IF WE SET UP A STOREFRONT LOCATION, WE WOULD USE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD POLICE OFFICERS, BUT THAT WOULD BE NOT SO MUCH RELATED TO EVENTS GOING ON AT THE ARENA. 
          IF THIS IS A MIXED USE ENVIRONMENT, AND BY THAT, I MEAN, THERE ARE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE THERE, THERE ARE BARS, THERE'S RESTAURANTS, THERE'S SHOPPING. 
          AND SO IF THIS IS A PLACE THAT IS JUST BUSY ON THE WEEKENDS, YOU KNOW, BUSY AT NIGHT ALL THE TIME, WE WOULD NEED ADDITIONAL RESOURCES TO HANDLE THAT, TO, TO PUT OFFICERS IN PLACE. 
          NOW, ON THE, UH, THE GAME NIGHTS AS, AS, UH, DEPUTY MAN - UH, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, UH, MCDOWELL MENTIONED AND, AND THE FIRE CHIEF, 
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UH, WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF RESOURCES TO HANDLE THIS, PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF THE, UH, TRAFFIC CONTROL PLAN. 
          AND, UH, BUT THOSE WOULD BE PAID FOR, AND, AND ALSO SECURITY INSIDE OF THE, INSIDE OF THE ARENA, UH, BUT THAT WOULD BE PAID FOR BY WHOEVER IS PUTTING ON THE EVENT WOULD COVER THAT. 
          SO, AND WE WOULD USE SECONDARY EMPLOYMENT. 
          WE WOULD HAVE OFFICERS, OFF-DUTY OFFICERS COMING IN TO WORK THAT, AND THEY WOULD BE PAID FOR BY THE EVENT ORGANIZER. 
          SO ANY OFFICERS, UH, UH, ON DUTY OR, UH, BROUGHT IN FOR THAT PURPOSE WOULD BE PAID FOR BY, UH, WHOEVER IS SPONSORING THE EVENT. 
          IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO, UH, ADD ADDITIONAL, UH, COST TO THE CITY? UH, TYPICALLY, RIGHT, YES. 
          UM, UH, AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE DETAILS ON THAT, BUT, BUT TYPICALLY THE SECURITY, TRAFFIC CONTROL, ALL OF THAT IS PAID FOR BY THE, UH, WHO'S EVER RUNNING THAT PARTICULAR EVENT GOING ON, THE STARS OR WHOEVER RUNNING THE CONCERT. 
          AND, AND BACK TO THE STOREFRONT FOR A SECOND, AND MAYBE THIS IS A QUESTION, UH, MARK FOR YOU IS, ARE WE LOOKING AT, UH, ANYTHING WITH THE DEVELOPER ON, UH, PROVIDING SPACE FOR THAT? SO WE'VE TALKED, UH, UH, ABOUT, UH, AN EOC INSIDE THE STADIUM, A, A TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT CENTER INSIDE THE STADIUM, AND WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT WHAT, UH, WHAT PUBLIC SAFETY IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE AT THE SITE, BUT WE'VE NOT MADE THE REQUEST YET FOR THAT. 
          WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR SOME DETAILS TO COME BACK ON THE DESIGN OF THE, UH, DISTRICT ITSELF, BUT IT IS SOMETHING WE WILL VISIT WITH THEM ABOUT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH, WE'RE FAMILIAR WITH WHAT ARLINGTON HAVE, AND WE WOULD NEED SOME KIND OF OPERATION CENTER FOR POLICE, FIRE, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, AND, UH, POSSIBLY OTHERS, UH, WITH THE CITY. 
          AND, UH, THAT WOULD BE UP TO, THAT WOULD NEED TO BE BUILT INTO THE FACILITY. 
          THANK YOU, CHIEF. 
          YES. 
          MARIA? YEAH. 
          UM, IT'S A FOLLOW-UP TO COUNCILMAN LEVI'S, UM, UH, QUESTION. 
          ACTUALLY, YOU ANSWERED MOST, MOST OF MY, MY, MY QUESTION, BUT I, I'M STILL A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED. 
          SO AT THIS POINT, WE ARE LOOKING AT ALL THE SECURITY BEING PAID FOR BY, UM, THE, THE OWNERS IN, IN, WHEN THEY'RE HAVING GAMES IN, IN THE, UH, STARS ARENA. 
          A- AM, AM I, IS THAT RIGHT? IT'D BE USER, USERS OF THE ARENA, THAT PARTICULAR NIGHT. 
          SO - OKAY. 
          EITHER HOCKEY OR CONCERTS OR EVENTS. 
          SO THE OFF-DUTY C - OFFICERS WILL BE PAID BY THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE AT THE ARENA AND NOT BY THE CITY, RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT. 
          SO, AND THEN, BUT THAT ALSO MEANS THAT, UM, ALL THE EXTERIOR PART OF, UM, OF THE TRAFFIC AND THE, AND THE, AND THE SECURITY WOULD BE MONITORED BY THE CITY, RIGHT? I MEAN, SO - WELL, I'M SORRY. 
          WE WOULD HAVE A TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT CENTER THAT WE STAFF WITH CITY STAFF, ESPECIALLY THE F - THE FIRST COUPLE YEARS WORKING THAT. 
          BUT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT DIRECTING TRAFFIC, THAT WOULD STILL BE PAID FOR BY WHO? THE CITY. 
          NO, BY WHO IS ACTUALLY RUNNING THE EVENT. 
          SO IF IT'S A, SAY IT'S A CONCERT NIGHT, WHOEVER THE CONCERT FOLKS ARE THAT ARE ACTUALLY CONTRACTING TO USE THAT, THEY WILL PAY FOR THE SECURITY AND THE TRAFFIC, UM - OF ALL THE POLICE, UH, OF ALL THE, UM, THE FIRST RESPONDER AS WELL AS THE LAW ENFORCEMENT? CORRECT. 
          AND SO WHATEVER, UM, AND THOSE PEOPLE WILL BE CONTRACTED DURING THAT, UM, DURING THAT EVENT. 
          CORRECT. 
          WE WILL JUST HAVE OUR NORMAL OPERATIONS ARE STILL GOING TO BE ONGOING, AND THAT'S WHAT WE WILL BE CONTINUING TO PROVIDE TO THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY. 
          BUT FOR THAT EVENT, WHATEVER IS NEEDED FOR THAT EVENT WILL BE PAID FOR BY THE EVENT. 
          AND, AND THAT'S VERY SPECIFICALLY DETAILED IN, IN OUR - THAT IS WHAT WE ARE WORKING ON IN OUR MASTER AGREEMENT AT THIS POINT. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          YEAH, LIKE THE, UH, LIKE WHAT THE, UH, FIRE CHIEF SAID ABOUT ARLINGTON, HOW THEY LIKE TO KEEP IT CONTAINED - YES. 
          SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO BRING IN OTHER RESOURCES. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE LIKE TO DO AS WELL TOO. 
          AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH THIS TYPE OF A VENUE, BUT WE DO WITH OTHER SPECIAL EVENTS. 
          AND SO WE LIKE TO HAVE EVERYTHING WE NEED THERE SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO BRING - RIGHT. 
          REGULAR BEAT OFFICERS IN TO COME DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN MAYBE TRANSPORT SOMEONE - RIGHT. 
          WHO NEEDS TO GO TO JAIL. 
          WELL, THAT, THAT'S THE THING, BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T REALLY S - YOU KNOW, DETAIL AND SPECIFIC AS TO WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT, WE END UP BEING ALL CONFUSED AND THEN, YOU KNOW, AND PEOPLE START FINGER POINTING AS TO, WELL, YOU, YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS. 
          NO, YOU'RE RESPON - SO I THINK THAT, THAT'S THE PART THAT I'M ACTUALLY KINDA CONCERNED ABOUT, BECAUSE IF WE ARE VERY SPECIFIC THAT ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DEAL WITH THE EVENT IS PAID FOR BY THE EVENT, UM, PRODUCER, THEN, UM, THAT NEEDS TO BE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IT IS. 
          I UNDERSTAND. 
          IT'LL BE IN THE AGREEMENT. 
          THANK YOU, CHIEF. 
          DOUG. 
          ALL RIGHT, 
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MAYOR AND COUNCIL, JUST QUICK NEXT STEPS. 
          AS YOU, YOU'VE SEEN TONIGHT, THIS IS ABOUT EIGHT TO 10 HOURS THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS BEEN WORKING ON TO KIND OF BRING IT TO YOU IN KIND OF A, A QUICK SUMMARIZATION. 
          UM, BUT THERE'S MULTIPLE WORK STREAMS KIND OF ADVANCING TOGETHER, SO THIS, THE SYNCING OF VERY IMPORTANCE, UH, UH, COUNCILMAN THOMAS, YOU MENTIONED JUST THE SYNCING OF THE, THE, THE ARENAS, THE VENUES, ALL THAT HAS COME INTO PLAY. 
          SO, UM, WE'RE CONTINUING TO, TO MOVE THESE THINGS FORWARD. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS A KEY PIECE OF IT OBVIOUSLY IS THE FUNDING, UM, AND SO THAT IS GONNA BE DECIDED BY THE, THE, THE, THE VOTERS, UH, IN NOVEMBER, SO THAT WILL ACTUALLY HAVE AN IMPACT ON A NUMBER OF THESE WORK STREAMS AS WE'RE PROCEEDING ON. 
          UM, AND THEN ADDITIONAL DETAILS, AGAIN, WILL CONTINUE TO BE REFINED, COMMUNICATED TO THE PUBLIC, AS WELL AS, AS COSTS BECOME CLEARER AND DESIGNS BECOME CLEAR, UH, ON THESE, THESE WORK STREAMS. UH, NEXT STEPS, UH, WE DO HAVE A, AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING, UH, TOMORROW NIGHT. 
          IT'S PUBLIC Q&A, SO THE PUBLIC IS SENDING IN QUESTIONS, UM, AND THEN THE COMMITTEE WILL ASK THOSE QUESTIONS TO STAFF AND OUR CONSULTANTS, AS WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST, IN THE PAST FEW, UH, COMMITTEE MEETINGS. 
          AGAIN, THE EARLY VOTING ELECTION DAY, WE HAVE THE FINAL TRANSPORTATION STUDY THAT WILL BE PUT ONLINE AND SENT OUT TO THE PUBLIC. 
          THEN WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THE SCOPE, UH, DEVELOPING THE SCOPE FOR PHASE TWO. 
          THE RESIDENTIAL MARKET STUDY, AGAIN, THIS IS ONE, BECAUSE WE'VE MADE SOME ADDITIONS AND CHANGES BASED ON THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION AND DIRECTION, WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK ON THAT, BUT THAT'LL BE, UH, COMING BEFORE, UH, THE, THE COMMITTEE PROBABLY IN NOV - IN NOVEMBER. 
          UH, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE ALL DOCUMENTS, QUESTIONS POSTED ON THE WILLOWBEND WEBSITE. 
          AND THEN OUR NEXT COUNCIL UPDATE IS, UH, UH, CITY MANAGER ISRAELSON MENTIONED, COME BACK TO YOU EVERY OTHER MONTH. 
          DECEMBER 8TH WILL BE OUR NEXT CITY COUNCIL UPDATE FOR YOU ON THE PROJECT. 
          I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, UH, ON THE REMAINING PORTIONS OF THE PROJECT. 
          GO AHEAD, MARIA. 
          SORRY, JUST, IT'S VERY SHORT. 
          SO, UM, WHAT I MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT TRASH, SO SOME OF THE COLLATERAL, UM, CONSEQUENCES OF PUTTING ON AN EVENT, UM, THAT, UM, I, I WOULD LIKE THAT CONCERN TO BE ADDRESSED AS WELL AS PART OF THE COST OF THE EVENT, UM, PRODUCER. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST THE EVENT ITSELF, BUT ALL THE SURROUNDING AREAS IN WHICH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S PROPERTY DAMAGE, IF THERE'S, UM, TRASH COLLECTION THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ANY, UM, YOU KNOW, DISORDERLY CONDUCT TYPE OF, UM, THINGS, I, I THINK THOSE ALL SHOULD BE THE RESPONSIBLE OF THE EVENT PRODUCER, SO I'D LIKE THAT TO BE ADDED. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU, DOUG. 
          WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER. 
          MR. LAGOS. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? UH, GOOD EVENING. 
          MY NAME IS JACK LAGOS. 
          UH, THIS IS PROBABLY THE FIRST TIME I EVER CAME UP TO A PRELIMINARY HEARING, ALWAYS DONE CITY COUNCIL, BUT SINCE THE RULES ALLOW, I CAN DO IT. 
          HERE I AM. 
          FIRST OF ALL, I AM AGAINST PROPOSITION A. 
          I'M GONNA VOTE AGAINST IT. 
          I HOPE PEOPLE BEHIND ME VOTE AGAINST IT. 
          AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF REASONS WHY. 
          FIRST OF ALL, I BELIEVE PROPOSITION A IS A CROJAN HORSE. 
          THE IN- INTENT OF PROPOSITION A IS TO GET THE BONDS WITHIN THAT AND HAVE THE PUBLIC VOTE FOR PROPOSITION A SO THAT YOU CAN CREATE BONDS BY THE GENTLEMAN THAT CAME UP THAT REPRESENTS THE BOND COMPANY. 
          IT'D BE A SPECIAL BOND, UH, SITUATION. 
          UH, I'D LIKE TO ALSO COMMEND, UH, MS. THOMAS AND MR. QUINTANILLA FOR WHAT THEY BROUGHT UP IN, UH, LOOKING OUT FOR THE CITIZENS. 
          MS. THOMAS VERY, VERY APTLY SAID, "I'M LOOKING OUT FOR THE CITIZENS. 
          I HAVEN'T GOTTEN ALL THE INFORMATION BACK." MR. QUINTANILLA STUCK TO HIS, UH, GUNS ON WHEN AM I GONNA GET MY DATA POINTS? YOU FOLKS PUT THEM OFF AS BEST AS YOU COULD. 
          FINALLY, SOMEBODY SAID OCTOBER 31. 
          IS THAT CORRECT, MR. QUINTANILLA? THAT OCTOBER 31 IS WHEN YOU GET BACK RESPONSES TO YOU. 
          THAT'S WHAT I HEARD OUT HERE IN THE AUDIENCE. 
          AND THE REASON I BRING THAT UP, YEAH, MR. QUINTANILLA, THIS RIGHT? OKAY. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          THE REASON I BRING THAT UP, BECAUSE OCTOBER 31 IS NOT BUT THREE OR SOME ODD DAYS FROM THE ELECTION. 
          I CAN ALSO TELL YOU HAVE ANOTHER PHASE COMING UP IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO OR NOVEMBER. 
          IN OTHER WORDS, YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO SAY TO THE VOTERS IF THEY ASK YOU QUESTIONS, BECAUSE YOU'RE HEDGING ON THESE PRESENTATIONS THAT CAME UP HERE BECAUSE THEY SAID TO YOU, "OH, WE'LL BE BACK WITH YOU ON ITEM NUMBER TWO OR PHASE TWO OR WHATEVER THEY CALLED IT ON, ON THE, UH, UH, ACTUAL PROJECT." THE ELECTION'S NOVEMBER 3RD. 
          PEOPLE HERE ARE ASKING QUESTIONS LIKE ME. 
          NOW, I'VE 
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GOT ENOUGH ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS I HAVE TO SAY, I'M NOT GONNA VOTE FOR THAT THING, RIGHT? I'M NOT GONNA PUT MYSELF IN HAWK WITH, UH, $700 MILLION IN BONDS. 
          NOW, YOU FOLKS VOTED EIGHT TO ZERO TO PUT US IN HAWK. 
          I'M GONNA VOTE FOR MYSELF TO NOT PUT - 20 SECONDS. 
          PUT MYSELF IN HAWK. 
          BUT YOU ALSO HAVE A SECOND CHANCE AS CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO CHANGE YOUR MINDS. 
          MR. LEVINE SAID VERY CLEARLY, "WHAT HAPPENS IF IT DOESN'T PASS?" I THINK HE SAID, HE'S WELCOME TO SPEAK UP, THAT YOU'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO GO ON. 
          MR. LAGOS, YOUR TIME IS UP. 
          OH, REALLY? I, THAT'S NOT NEWS TO ME. 
          I KNOW. 
          THANK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          I'M, I'M WELL AWARE. 
          I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS. 
          WE, WE NEEDED THIS INFORMATION, THE COMMITTEE NEEDED THIS INFORMATION TO HELP US UNDERSTAND AND HELP US DISSEMINATE THE COMMUNICATION TO ALL OF YOU. 
          I'VE LIVED IN PLANO ALL MY LIFE. 
          I LIVE IN WILLOWBEND AREA. 
          AND ALL I'VE EVER WANTED TO DO IS TO MAKE PLANO THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND THE BEST PLACE TO LIVE IN ALL OF TEXAS AND BEYOND. 
          I THINK ALL OF THESE COUNCIL MEMBERS FEEL THE SAME EXACT WAY. 
          WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER IS DEVELOPED AT WILLOWBEND, THAT IT'S OF THE HIGHEST QUALITY AND THAT IT IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL OF US TO ENJOY. 
          SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE PEOPLE THAT, UH, ARE EXPERTS IN THEIR FIELD WERE ABLE TO COME UP AND EXPLAIN TO US THE AREAS OF FINANCE, TRAFFIC, UM, THAT HOME VALUES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO STUDY THESE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ON OCTOBER, I MEAN, NOVEMBER 3RD IS A VENUE TAX, WHICH IS FIVE ITEMS THAT ONLY BY USING THE ARENA WILL, WILL THEY EXPERIENCE, UH, THE NEED TO PAY FOR TICKETS, PARKING, HOTEL, MOTEL, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO, UH, I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO BE CONFUSED THAT IT'S ANY MORE THAN THAT. 
          THAT'S WHAT IT IS. 
          SO, UH, THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. 
          THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TOMORROW TO, TO MAKE THESE PRESENTATIONS TO THE WILLOWBEND COMMITTEE THAT'LL, THAT'LL MEET TOMORROW. 
          AND, UM, WE'LL, WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO OUR HOMEWORK AND MAKE SURE THAT, UH, WE ARE TRYING TO CREATE A DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'D ALL BE PROUD OF. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          OUR NEXT ITEM IS CONSENT AND REGULAR AGENDAS. 
          WE'RE GONNA SKIP, UH, AQUATIC CENTER UPDATE AND DO THAT HERE IN JUST A LITTLE WHILE. 
          UH, CONSENT - MAYOR? YES. 
          ITEM J WAS PULLED BY A CITIZEN. 
          ITEM J IS PULLED FOR SPEAKER. 
          ANY ITEMS FOR, UH, DISCUSSION AND FUTURE ITEMS, AGENDAS? OKAY. 
          HUH? ITEM J. 
          A OR J? J. 
          YES. 
          WE'LL TAKE, UH, JUST ABOUT THREE OR FOUR MINUTES, UH, RECESS AND BEGIN, UH, JUST RIGHT AT SEVEN O'CLOCK. 
          THANK YOU.
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