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I NOW

[PRELIMINARY OPEN MEETING]

TO DECLARE THAT THE PLANO CITY COUNCILS CONVENED INTO OPEN SESSION THAT ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.

THE COUNCIL WILL NOW RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION IN TRAINING ROOM A TO HOLD A CLOSED EXECUTIVE MEETING PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF VERNON'S TEXAS CODES ANNOTATED GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 5 51.

THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AUTHORITY CONTAINED IN SECTION 5 51 0 71 TO CONSULT WITH THE ATTORNEY TO RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE AND DISCUSS LITIGATION SECTION 5 51 0 87 TO DISCUSS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MATTERS AND SECTION 5 51 0 74 TO DISCUSS PERSONNEL MATTERS.

THANK YOU.

I NOW DECLARE THAT THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL PRELIMINARY OPEN MEETING IS RECONVENED INTO OPEN SESSION THAT ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.

OUR FIRST ITEM ON THE PRELIMINARY AGENDA IS CONSIDERATION AND ACTION RESULTING FROM THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.

OUR NEXT ITEM IS, UH, DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION REGARDING THE WILLOW BEND DISTRICT CITIZEN COMMITTEE, COUNCIL, MAYOR, AND COUNCIL.

UH, STAFF PROVIDED SOME NAMES OF, UM, HOA FOLKS THAT VOLUNTEERED THAT WERE WITHIN A CERTAIN DISTANCE OF THE PROJECT AREA OVER AT WILLOW BEND.

THIS WAS, UH, SOMETHING THAT WE DISCUSSED WITH COUNCIL AT OUR LAST MEETING TO HAVE AN AD HOC CITIZENS COMMITTEE TO HELP ADVISE ON, UH, ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDIES AS WELL AS TRAFFIC STUDIES.

SO WITH THAT, WE'VE DISTRIBUTED THE NAMES AND WE WELCOME, UM, COUNCIL DIRECTION ON HOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO, UH, FILL THE SEATS ON THE COMMITTEE.

UH, AND LAST I WOULD SHARE THAT THE STAFF LIAISON FOR THIS COMMITTEE IS GONNA BE CURTIS HOWARD FROM OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGERS.

UM, SO WE, UH, WE, WE'VE HAD SOME, UM, UH, SUBMITTALS AND WE'RE, WE'RE, UH, WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COVER, UM, ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS AS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, UH, NORTH, SOUTHEAST, AND WEST OF, UH, THE SHOPS OF WILLA BEEN.

SO, I'M, I'M, UH, THESE ARE SUBMITTALS THAT, UH, THAT CAME TO US AND I'M, UH, MAKING SURE THAT THESE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE INCLUDED.

SO, SO I HAVE JILL LITTLE FROM VILLAS OF GLEN MEADOWS.

I HAVE JEFF PASCAL FROM GLEN MEADOWS.

I HAVE RT BROUSSARD FROM WILLIN POLO.

GOT IT.

TJ PLATA FROM STONE LAKE SLASH STEEPLECHASE.

BILL WARREN FROM OLD SHEPHERD PLACE, CARSON UNDERWOOD FROM WILLOW BEND LAKES.

CHRIS FANO FROM WIND, WINDHAM HILL, JAVIER MURPHY FROM WINDHAVEN FARMS. GINNY TRUEX TOTA FROM HILLS AT PRESTONWOOD SOUTH.

AND MARY AGNES CLARK FROM THE HILLS OF INDIAN CREEK.

UM, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I COVERED, UH, MOST ALL OF THE, UH, THE RESIDENTS THAT, THAT ARE ADJACENT TO, UM, WILLOW BEND IS, IS THERE ANY OTHER, UH, NAME THAT A COUNCIL MEMBER WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT? WE DO HAVE A SPEAKER ON THIS.

OKAY.

GO AHEAD.

OUR SPEAKER IS DAVID ROIC.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY.

I'M DAVID ROIC FROM THE STONE LAKE ESTATES AREA OF WEST PLANO.

THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THE WILLOW BEND DISTRICT CITIZEN COMMITTEE TOGETHER TO ADDRESS THE STARS DEVELOPMENT.

I THINK THE COMMITTEE WITH THE CITIZENS IS A GOOD DIRECTION.

SINCE COUNCIL KEEPS STATING THAT STARS DEVELOPMENT IS NOT A DONE DEAL, I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT THE COMMITTEE LOOK AT WHETHER BRINGING THE STARS TO THE WILLI BEND MALL PROPERTY IS THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF THE PROPERTY.

THE WILLI BEND DISTRICT CITIZENS COMMITTEE SHOULD LOOK AT ALTERNATIVES LIKE AN ARTS OR CULTURAL

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DISTRICT BRING IN A, BRINGING IN A COMPANY HEADQUARTERS, OR A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS IN KEEPING WITH THE PLANO COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND MORE SPECIFICALLY THE BIN PLAN THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY PROPOSED BY CENTENNIAL FOR A MIXED USE OPEN AIR DEVELOPMENT.

WE NEED A DEVELOPMENT THAT IS IN KEEPING WITH THE SURROUNDING SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WILL GENERATE TAX REVENUE TO SUPPORT ALL OF PLANO.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR WORK FOR HELPING KEEP PLANO A CITY OF EXCELLENCE.

THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN CARE.

UM, MR. MAYOR, I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT, UH, I'VE, AS YOU WERE READING THE NAMES THROUGH THERE, THAT, UH, YOU ACTUALLY NAMED SEVERAL OF THE ONES THAT PEOPLE I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ON THERE.

I FEEL LIKE THEY REPRESENT THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS QUITE WELL, AND THEY'RE IN THAT VICINITY.

UH, AND I'M IN FAVOR WITH THESE NAMES.

LISA, IS A HAND VOTE SUFFICIENT? SURE.

OKAY.

SO I, I'LL SECOND THAT.

UM, SO I, I HOPE EVERYBODY HEARD IT.

WE'LL MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAS, UH, AND IF, AND IF WE DO, UH, HAVE SOMEONE THAT SAID THEY WOULD LIKE TO SERVE AND FOR SOME REASON CAN'T, WE'LL, WE'LL, UH, MAKE SURE THAT WE FILL THAT WITH, WITH, UH, SOMEONE IN THAT SAME NEIGHBORHOOD.

OKAY.

ALL ALL IN FAVOR.

MOTION CARRIES EIGHT TO NOTHING.

OKAY.

NEXT ITEM, UH, IS THE DISCUSSION REGARDING E-BIKES, UH, ELECTRIC SCOOTERS, UH, THAT, UH, HAVE BEEN MORE NOTICEABLE CHIEF, UH, THROUGHOUT OUR, OUR ENTIRE CITY.

AND I, I THINK OUR BIGGEST CONCERN IS, IS THE AGE AGES OF SOME OF THESE, UH, PEOPLE THAT ARE, THAT ARE RIDING THEM.

AND SO I, I'M, I THINK WE'RE ALL TRYING TO ABSORB WHAT, UH, WHAT'S THE LAW AND, AND THEN IS THERE SOMETHING THAT'S BEING, YOU KNOW, IS THERE SOMETHING MORE THAT WE COULD DO TO PROTECT, UH, SOME OF THESE, UH, FOLKS FROM RIDING ON OUR SIDEWALKS AND STREETS WHEN WE KNOW THEY'RE TOO YOUNG FOR, UH, A DRIVER'S LICENSE? SO, UH, WE'D, WE'D LOVE TO, UH, TO GET A REPORT FROM YOU AND, AND FIND OUT SOME SOLUTIONS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UH, MR. MAYOR, THE, UH, CITY MANAGER ASKED SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS TO TAKE A LOOK AT E-BIKES.

SEVERAL WEEKS AGO, UH, DR.

RON SMITH OVER PARKS AND RECS AGREED TO COORDINATE THOSE MEETINGS.

I SIGNED ASSISTANT CHIEF MATT LER TO THAT COMMITTEE.

UH, MATT EER WAS PROBABLY THE SMART, SMARTEST GUY IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ON E-BIKES.

SO WE'RE GONNA BREAK THIS, UH, PRESENTATION UP TO TALK ABOUT THE LAW AND THE E-BIKES AND THE AGES AS YOU, AS YOU MENTIONED.

AND THEN DR. SMITH AND HIS TEAM WILL TALK ABOUT, UH, THE PARKS SITUATION.

SO MATT, IF YOU WANNA COME UP.

YES, SIR.

THANKS, CHIEF.

GOOD EVENING.

SO I'M GONNA PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION ON SOME OF THE RULES AND REGULATIONS WITH E-BIKES AND E MOTORCYCLES AND WHAT ALL THAT MEANS.

SO TO START OFF, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT E-BIKES.

THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATIONS AND I CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT THOSE CLASSIFICATIONS MEAN HERE IN JUST A MINUTE.

BUT THE BIG THING ABOUT E-BIKES, FIRST AND FOREMOST, THEY HAVE TO HAVE PEDALS.

SO ANY, ANY MOTORIZED DEVICE THAT YOU SEE THAT DOESN'T HAVE PEDALS, DOES NOT QUA, UH, QUALIFY AS AN E-BIKE.

AND AS FAR AS THE RULES FOR, AM I A LITTLE LOW HERE? YEAH.

THANK YOU SIR.

.

AND AS FAR AS THE RULES AND LAWS AND ORDINANCES ON E-BIKES, THEY MIRROR, UH, REGULAR BICYCLES.

SO IF THEY CAN BE RIDDEN ON A ROADWAY OR THE PARK TRAIL, UH, THESE E-BIKES CAN AS, AS WELL.

THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS, IS THAT CLASS THREE E-BIKES HAVE TO BE RIDDEN BY 15 YEARS OLDER OR OLDER.

THAT'S THE, THE ONE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN E-BIKES AND BICYCLES.

SO AS FAR AS THE CLASSIFICATIONS ARE CONCERNED, THE CLASS ONE AND CLASS TWO E-BIKES, THEY HAVE A MAXIMUM SPEED OF 20 MILES AN HOUR BEFORE THE MOTOR HAS TO SHUT OFF.

THEY OBVIOUSLY CAN GO MUCH FASTER THAN THAT IF YOU PEDAL, BUT THE MOTOR GOES OFF AT 20 OR CLASS THREE E-BIKES, THEY CAN GET UP TO 28 MILES AN HOUR BEFORE THE MOTOR IS REQUIRED TO BE SHUT OFF.

IF IT GOES MORE THAN 28 MILES AN HOUR, ONCE AGAIN, IT'S NOT CLASSIFIED AS AN E-BIKE.

AND IT CHANGES THE LAWS AND THE RULES ON THEM.

SO THE NEXT CLASSIFICATION IS ELECTRIC MOPEDS OR ELECTRIC MOTORCYCLES.

SO THESE HAVE TO FOLLOW ALL THE RULES AND REQUIREMENTS AS A REGULAR GAS POWERED MOTORCYCLE.

THEY HAVE TO HAVE ALL THE EQUIPMENT STANDARDS, CLASS M DRIVER'S LICENSE, UH, INSURANCE REGISTRATION, AND THEN THEY CAN BE DRIVEN ON THE ROADWAY.

AND THEY CANNOT BE DRIVEN ON OUR PARKS, BUT THEY HAVE TO MEET THESE TO GET ON THE ROAD.

AND THERE'S A CLASSIFICATION OF ELECTRIC DIRT BIKES AND PIT BIKES.

AND PRETTY MUCH OF WHAT THAT BOILS DOWN TO IS

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THEY DON'T MEET ALL THE EQUIPMENT AND REGISTRATION REQUIREMENTS OF A MOTORCYCLE.

THEY'RE UNDER THIS CLASSIFICATION.

AND THESE CAN'T BE ON ROADWAYS, THEY CAN'T BE IN OUR PARKS.

THEY CAN ONLY BE WRITTEN ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.

SO, UH, THE CITY CREATED THIS, UH, INFOGRAPHIC FOR OUR WEBSITE.

IT'S GONNA BE ON PARKS WEBSITE AS WELL.

OUR SOCIAL MEDIA SHARED WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD POLICE OFFICERS AND SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS.

IT'S KIND OF AN EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN BECAUSE SOME OF THESE LAWS ARE KIND OF COMPLICATED.

WE TRY TO MAKE IT AS SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE SO THEY CAN REFERENCE IT.

AND THESE ARE THE LAWS RIGHT NOW, OR THE ORDINANCES I SHOULD SAY.

UH, AS FAR AS WHAT CAN BE RIDDEN ON OUR PARK TRAILS, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S A MAJOR CONCERN.

SO ELECTRIC MOTORCYCLES CAN NOT BE ON OUR POKE, UH, PARK TRAILS.

AND HOWEVER, THE ELECTRIC BIKES, THE EVEN ONE THROUGH THREE, THEY CAN BE ON OUR PARK TRAILS AS OUR ORDINANCE STANDS NOW.

SO THAT'S MY PART.

GOOD EVENING COUNSEL.

THIS IS JUST A REVIEW NOW OF THE PARKS TRAIL SYSTEM.

UH, MOST OF THE QUESTIONS ARE PERHAPS GONNA BE ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING ON OUR ROADWAYS AND IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT WE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT PARK TRAILS AS WELL.

OUR SYSTEM HAS OVER 150 MILES OF DESIGNATED BIKE ROUTES ON OUR STREETS.

WE HAVE OVER A HUNDRED MILES OF PAVED HIKE AND BIKE TRAILS THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND 12 MILES OF SOFT SURFACE TRAILS.

WHEN IT COMES TO E-BIKES.

E-BIKES ARE GREAT.

WE IN THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT LOVE THEM BECAUSE THEY, THEY EXPAND OUR USER GROUP.

PEOPLE THAT MAYBE SHIED AWAY FROM GETTING OUT ON OUR TRAILS OR OUTDOORS BECAUSE OF MAYBE SOME HEALTH OR AGE RESTRICTIONS.

WITH THESE EIST BIKES, THEY'RE ABLE TO USE OUR TRAILS AND BENEFIT FROM THOSE.

SO THEY'RE A REAL POSITIVE DEVELOPMENT AS FAR AS WE CONCERNED.

UH, AND THEY'RE ALSO AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR ALTERNATE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, UH, OR THOSE INITIATIVES BECAUSE THEY DO ALLOW PEOPLE TO GET OUT AND, UH, PEDAL WITH SOME ASSIST.

THAT IS A REAL POSITIVE DEVELOPMENT.

THESE, UH, THE TRENDS THAT WE ARE SEEING OUT THERE, THERE ARE A VARIETY OF DEVICES AS, UH, THE CLASSIFICATIONS TELL US.

AND THOSE CLASSIFICATIONS ARE SET BY THE TEXAS TRANSPORTATION CODE THAT PROVIDES THE CLASSIFICATIONS AND ALSO USER PARAMETERS.

SO WE FOLLOW THE TEXAS LAW WHEN IT COMES TO THOSE THINGS.

AGAIN, MORE USERS OUT THERE.

A VARIETY OF DEVICES MEANS MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO ENGAGE WITH OUR PARK SYSTEM AND FOR OUR STAFF TO ENGAGE WITH THE PUBLIC.

WE HAVE HAD FEW CONCENTRATED COMPLAINTS ON OUR PARKS TRAILS.

UH, THIS IS, I THINK MORE BROADLY A NEIGHBORHOOD ISSUE.

WE HAVEN'T HAD LOTS OF, UH, RECURRING PROBLEMS IN OUR TRAIL SYSTEM.

OUR ROLE IN PARKS AND RECREATION IS TO EDUCATE AND ENGAGE THE PUBLIC SO THAT THEY'RE INFORMED AND CAN USE OUR TRAIL SYSTEM SAFELY.

WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF OUTREACH AS FAR AS PARKS AND RECREATION IS CONCERNED.

WE HAVE A WEBSITE THAT TALKS ALL ABOUT TRAIL ETIQUETTE, HOW TO USE THE TRAIL SAFELY.

WE HAVE VIDEOS THAT ARE POSTED WHEN YOU GO TO THAT WEBSITE TO LEARN ALL THAT YOU WANNA LEARN ABOUT OUR TRAIL SYSTEM.

WE ALSO HAVE SIGNS POSTED EVERYWHERE.

FOR EXAMPLE, THIS VID OR THIS, UH, SLIDE RIGHT HERE SHOWS THE YELLOW DOTS ARE WHERE WE HAVE POSTED SIGNS THAT SAY NO MOTORIZED VEHICLES ON OUR TRAILS.

THE GREEN DOTS ARE PARK RULE SIGNS.

AND TWO OF THE RULES ON THAT SIGN, ONE SAYS, DON'T GO FASTER THAN 15 MILES AN HOUR ON A TRAIL.

AND THE OTHER ONE, AND THE OTHER ONE SAYS, DON'T COME ON THE TRAIL IF YOU'RE ON A MOTORIZED VEHICLE.

AND THEN THE, UH, THE RED ARE ALL OF OUR SPEED LIMIT, MAXIMUM 15 MILES PER HOUR.

OUR TRAIL SYSTEM IS DESIGNED WITH A 15 MILE MAXIMUM SPEED LIMIT.

SO TURNS AND CURVES AND BANKS AND ALL THOSE THINGS ARE DESIGNED FOR 15 MILES MAXIMUM SPEED.

SO IF YOU'RE GOING OVER 15, YOU'RE GOING TOO FAST FOR OUR TRAIL SYSTEM.

AND AGAIN, WHAT WE STRIVE TO DO IS ENGAGE THE PUBLIC, INFORM THE PUBLIC, INSTRUCT THE PUBLIC.

BUT WHEN IT COMES TO ENFORCEMENT, WE RELY ON OUR PARTNERS IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THIS GRAPHIC WAS SHOWN A LITTLE BIT EARLIER.

THIS IS A NEW GRAPHIC THAT WE'VE DEVELOPED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT.

IT JUST IS A REAL EASY WAY TO SEE IF WHAT YOU OWN, WHERE YOU CAN USE IT.

AND THOSE, UH, ELECTRIC DIRT BIKES, THOSE ARE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.

WE HAVE LOTS OF DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE ENGAGE WITH THE PUBLIC.

WE THINK IT'S VERY SUCCESSFUL.

THIS IS ANOTHER GRAPHIC THAT I SAW ON FACEBOOK.

THIS IS FOR THE, UH, THE REAL INFORMED OWNER THAT WANTS TO KNOW, UH, EXACTLY WHERE I CAN GO AND WHAT I CAN DO AND HOW I CAN USE IT.

SO IF, IF SOMEONE WANTS TO SPEND THE TIME AND, AND USE THIS FLOW CHART,

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IT'S VERY INFORMATIVE AND IN MANY CASES VERY HELPFUL.

UH, THAT'S THE PRESENTATION THAT WE HAVE.

I KNOW, UH, THE CONSTRAINT OF TIME.

WE'VE GOT JUST A FEW MINUTES.

WE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR ENGAGE THE COUNCIL IN THE DISCUSSION.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU MAYOR PROTO.

YEAH, THANK YOU.

A GREAT PRESENTATION ON BOTH PARTS HERE FOR DEFINING THIS.

ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I DO HAVE IS THE E SCOOTER.

I NOTICED THAT WE CAN'T RIDE IT ON THE TRAILS, WE CAN'T RIDE IT ON THE STREETS.

WHERE CAN, UH, THESE STAND UP ELECTRIC SCOOTERS? WHERE CAN THEY BE USED? 'CAUSE WE, YOU HAVE THE LIMES AND YOU HAVE THE OTHERS THAT YOU COULD RENT.

WHERE CAN YOU USE THOSE? YEAH, THE SCOOTER CAN BE ON OUR TRAILS.

YES.

AS LONG AS YOU'RE GOING UNDER 15 MILES AN HOUR, YOU CAN SEE WHERE CAN I RIDE IT? THAT LITTLE STANDUP, ELECTRIC SCOOTER PARK TRAILS.

AS LONG AS YOU'RE OBEYING THAT 15 MILE AN HOUR MAXIMUM SPEED LIMIT, YOU CAN BE ON OUR TRAILS.

AND THAT'S A, THAT'S FINE WITH US.

WE SEE KIDS ON THEIR, THEIR SCOOTERS ON OUR TRAIL SYSTEM.

IT'S NOT A PROBLEM.

OKAY.

SO THEY'RE ABLE TO TAKE IT FROM HOME AND GO TO SCHOOL IF THEY, IF THEY SURE.

ABSOLUTELY.

PST OF COURSE THEY SHOULDN'T BE IN THE ROADS WITH THAT.

NO WAY.

OKAY.

YEAH.

ALRIGHT, THANKS.

I'LL LEAVE THIS UP HERE FOR YOUR, NO, YEAH, LEAVE THAT UP THERE.

LEAVE UP COUNCILMAN LEVI.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

UM, RON, UH, THIS, UH, WHERE CAN I RIDE IN PLANO GRAPHIC.

I SAW THAT AT, UH, MULLEN BECK, UH, THIS WEEKEND.

AND, UH, IT CAUGHT MY ATTENTION.

THIS ONE RIGHT HERE.

THE MORE COMPREHENSIVE ONE? NO, THE OTHER ONE.

OH, THE SIMPLE VERSION.

YEAH.

AND I'M WONDERING IF A VERSION OF THAT COULD BE POSTED IF NOT PERMANENTLY, UH, ON SOME KIND OF TEMPORARY BASIS.

UH, ALONG THE TRAILS OF THE TRAIL HEADS.

IT SEEMS LIKE WE NEED TO REALLY LET PEOPLE KNOW WHAT'S PERMISSIBLE AND WHAT'S NOT.

AND I PROMISE YOU THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE VIOLATING THIS ARE NOT LOOKING AT OUR WEBSITE.

RIGHT.

SPOKEN LIKE A TRUE FORMER MEMBER OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION PLANNING BOARD.

THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

, I THINK THAT WE'LL, WE'LL DO THAT.

UM, UH, DEPUTY MAYOR PROTO.

I'M SORRY.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

I DO HAVE A, YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU'VE GOTTEN A FEW COMPLAINTS.

CAN YOU GIVE US SOME EXAMPLES OF THOSE TYPES OF COMPLAINTS? YEAH, THE MOST OF THE COMPLAINTS WILL BE SOMEONE WILL EMAIL ME OR THEY'LL CONTACT US THROUGH FIX IT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND THEY'LL SAY, WHILE I WAS ON THE TRAIL LAST WEDNESDAY, SOMEONE WENT BY ME REALLY FAST.

WELL, WHERE WAS IT? WELL, I'M NOT SURE.

IT WAS OVER AT OAK POINT PARK.

OKAY, WELL WHAT TIME OF DAY WAS IT? WELL, IT WAS IN THE AFTERNOON.

AND SO BY THE TIME WE CAN TAKE ANY ACTION, IT'S USUALLY, IF NOT HOURS, IT'S DAYS IN THE PAST.

BUT IF WE WERE TO GET A CONSISTENT FLOW OF, HEY, WE'RE SEEING SOMETHING AT THIS LOCATION AROUND THIS SAME TIME, WE WOULD PARTNER WITH PD AND THEY WOULD TAKE SOME CORRECTIVE ACTION.

BUT NOBODY'S BEEN INJURED SO FAR.

UH, I'M NOT AWARE OF SOMEONE BEING INJURED BECAUSE OF THESE OKAY.

UH, DEVICES.

BUT PEOPLE UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, UH, WIPE OUT ON OUR TRAILS.

THAT HAPPENS.

THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT.

YEAH.

THAT HAPPENS.

OKAY.

AND NOBODY'S, OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

AND THEN HOW DO WE KNOW WHAT A ONE IN A THREE IS OF THAT JUSTIFICATION? YEAH.

HOW DO YOU RECOG HOW DO YOU RECOGNIZE? RIGHT.

A ONE, TWO, AND THREE.

AND I ONLY ASK BECAUSE I, I DRIVE BY DAYCARE PICKUP AND I SEE LIKE A 9-YEAR-OLD DRIVING ON THE STREET, SO I'M BEING VERY CAUTIOUS.

BUT THEN HE SHARP TURNS AND I WAS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A ONE OR THREE, BUT IT HAS PEDALS THAT THAT IS A THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION.

AND THAT'S ONE THING THAT'S VERY COMPLICATED FOR US WITHOUT GETTING ON THAT BIKE AND PEDALING AND HITTING 20 MILES AN HOUR AND SEEING IF THE MOTOR STOPS OR KEEPS GOING.

RIGHT.

WE, WE WOULDN'T KNOW.

UM, THAT'S THE ONLY WAY TO FIGURE THAT OUT.

THAT MAKES THIS WHOLE THING VERY COMPLICATED.

IT'S NOT LIKE WE CAN PUT A RADAR GUN TO SEE IF THEY'RE GOING OVER 20.

WELL, SO, BUT IF IT'S A CLASS THREE, THEY CAN GET TO 28.

RIGHT.

SO THEN WE'VE GOTTA KNOW THAT THEY'RE UNDER 15 AND THE MOTOR KICK DIDN'T KICK IT OFF UNTIL WE HIT 28 MILES AN HOUR.

SO IT, IT'S A WHOLE INVESTIGATION THAT COMPLICATES THINGS VERY MUCH.

'CAUSE IT'S, THEY'RE VERY HARD TO RECOGNIZE WHICH IS WHICH.

RIGHT.

EXCEPT THE PEDALS.

YOU SEE SOMETHING WITHOUT A PEDAL ON A PARK TRAIL, WE KNOW IMMEDIATELY THAT SHOULDN'T BE THERE.

AND I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH ANY OF THIS.

MY MAIN CONCERN IS THE SAFETY OR OF OUR CHILDREN.

AND IT, IT'S A LITTLE ALARMING WHEN THEY'RE TURNING PRETTY QUICKLY AND IT'S LIKE, I BE CAREFUL.

.

ABSOLUTELY.

I'M ASKING THESE QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

OUR CONCERN AS WELL.

YES, SIR.

COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS.

YES.

UM, IT'S NOTED ON THE SLIDE THERE THAT YOU HAVE EDUCATION AND OUTREACH.

HOW ARE YOU COLLABORATING WITH PLANO, ISD TO EDUCATE OUR, OUR YOUNG ONES ABOUT, UH, BIKE SAFETY.

SO WE ARE PROVIDING THIS INFORMATION, THESE INFOGRAPHICS TO OUR SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS.

THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE GET OUR END, UM, INTO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S OUR CURRENT PLAN RIGHT THERE AS WELL.

BUT I, I I BELIEVE THERE'D PROBABLY BE SOME OTHER AVENUES.

SO WE COULD GO AS WELL TO, TO, TO BROADEN THIS OUTREACH.

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ARE THERE ANY INCENTIVES FOR FOLLOWING THE, UH, EXPECTATIONS FOR THEM? SO MOSTLY WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IS KIND OF EDUCATION.

UH, AS FAR AS PARENTS OR CHILDREN.

A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST DON'T, THEY JUST DON'T KNOW THIS INFORMATION.

AND QUITE FRANKLY, EVEN IF YOU WERE TO LOOK UP THE TEXAS STATUTES OF WHERE YOU CAN AND CAN'T, UH, RIDE THESE, IT'S, IT'S VERY COMPLICATED.

SO I THINK THE EDUCATION CAMPAIGN'S REALLY IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW.

AND THEN OF COURSE, PEOPLE WHO JUST AREN'T COMPLYING WITH THAT, THEN WE HAVE TO START STEPPING INTO THAT KIND OF ENFORCEMENT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

YES, MA'AM.

SO, I MEAN, THIS IS GOOD INFORMATION FOR ALL OF US.

UM, IS, IS THERE ANY OTHER ENFORCEMENT THAT YOU GUYS AREN'T ALREADY DOING, WHICH I, I'M, I'M SURE THERE'S NOT, BUT UM, OTHER THAN THE EDUCATION ASPECT OF IT, IS, IS THERE, UM, ARE, ARE YOU SEEING, UH, AN INCREASE OR IS IT JUST HYPOTHETICAL THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE THINKING THAT WE'RE SEEING MORE OF THIS IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND RON YOU'RE RIGHT.

I WE'RE, I'M SEEING IT IN NEIGHBORHOODS NOT, NOT ON THE TRAILS.

SO I'VE BEEN TALKING TO A LOT OF OFFICERS AND OUR, AND OUR WATCH COMMANDERS WHO ARE ALWAYS ON DUTY LISTENING TO THAT RADIO AND ASKING THEM, ARE WE SEEING AN UPTICK IN CALLS FOR SERVICE LIKE THIS? PEOPLE JUST QUITE FRANKLY, AREN'T CALLING THE POLICE ON THESE.

BUT WHEN I START TALKING TO THE COMMUNITY ABOUT E-BIKES, THEY HAVE THE SAME COMPLAINTS, BUT THEY'RE JUST NOT CALLING US.

WHEN A KID IS ON A, AN ELECTRIC MOTORCYCLE IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, WE'RE JUST NOT GETTING THOSE PHONE CALLS.

BUT WE WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING TO, TO PARKS.

AND WHEN THEY START GETTING THOSE COMPLAINTS IN THE SAME AREAS, THEN WE'LL SEND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD POLICE OFFICERS OUT ON THEIR BIKES GETTING OUT, UM, IN THOSE PARKS, IN THOSE AREAS AND HAVING THEM DO THAT EDUCATION AND ENFORCEMENT CAMPAIGNS.

SOUNDS GOOD.

SOUNDS GOOD.

WELL, THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR THE INFORMATION.

THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT.

OKAY, MOVING ON TO ITEM FOUR, CONSENT AND REGULAR AGENDAS.

IS THERE AN ITEM A COUNCIL MEMBER WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE? UM, COUNCIL HONORS FOR FUTURE AGENDAS.

OKAY.

WE'LL TAKE A RECESS AND START THE MEETING IN ONE MINUTE.