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          THAT THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL IS RECONVENED INTO OPEN SESSION THAT ALL COUNCILMEMBERS ARE PRESENT. WE WILL BEGIN TONIGHT'S REGULAR MEETING WITH THE INVOCATION LED BY DR. GILBERTO CORDERA FROM PRESTONWOOD BAPTIST CHURCH AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. 
          WOULD YOU PLEASE RISE? PLEASE JOIN ME IN PRAYER. 
          DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, WE ARE GRATEFUL TO BE HERE TODAY. WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR ANOTHER DAY ALIVE. AND WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THE CITY OF PLANO AND GRATEFUL FOR THE LEADERSHIP. WE PRAY TONIGHT THAT YOU BRING GUIDANCE, PROTECTION AND CLARITY FOR EVERY ASPECT AND TOPIC THAT WE WANT TO DISCUSS TO MAKE THIS CITY BETTER. 
          THANK YOU, LORD, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A CITY AND A COUNCIL WHO BELIEVE THAT ONLY WITH YOUR HELP WE CAN BE BETTER. WE PUT OUR LIFE ON THIS TIME IN YOUR HANDS. 
          IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, WE PRAY. AMEN. 
          I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG; I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. 
          THANK YOU. BE SEATED. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          OKAY, LET'S BEGIN 
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WITH THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          THE CONSENT AGENDA. THE CONSENT AGENDA WILL BE ACTED UPON IN ONE MOTION AND CONTAINS ITEMS WHICH ARE ROUTINE AND TYPICALLY NON CONTROVERSIAL. 
          ITEMS MAY BE REMOVED FROM THIS AGENDA FOR INDIVIDUAL DISCUSSION BY A COUNCILMEMBER, THE CITY MANAGER OR ANY CITIZEN. THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL ESTABLISH TIME LIMITS BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKERS REQUESTS. 
          MR. MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM Z WHICH TO BE MOVED INTO PUBLIC COMMENT TO PUBLIC INTEREST. 
          MR. MAYOR, I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. 
          THANK YOU. I HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM ZONE. PLEASE VOTE. 
          MOTION PASSES 8 TO 0. ITEM ITEM Z. TO APPROVE AN 
          [(z) 26-606 To approve an expenditure for engineering professional services for Willow Bend Traffic Analysis in the amount of $320,000 from Fehr & Peers for the Engineering Department; and authorizing the City Manager to execute all necessary documents.]
EXPENDITURE FOR ENGINEERING PROFESSIONAL SERVICES FOR WILLOW BEND TRAFFIC ANALYSIS IN THE AMOUNT OF $320,000 FROM FAIR AND PEERS FOR THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT IN AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS. 
          ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS CALEB THORNHILL, DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING AND I'LL GIVE YOU A BRIEF UPDATE ON THIS ITEM. SO THIS IS A PRELIMINARY TRAFFIC ANALYSIS ON THE WILLOW BEND AREA. THIS IS FOR THE TO CONSIDER THE POTENTIAL REDEVELOPMENT, OBVIOUSLY INCLUDING A NHL ARENA IN THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT. 
          AS JUST WAS MENTIONED, THE TWO FAIR AND PEERS IN THE AMOUNT OF $320,000. 
          THIS IS A PLANNING LEVEL ONLY ANALYSIS. THIS DOES NOT IMPROVE ANYTHING RELATED TO DEVELOPMENT. WHAT THE STUDY WILL INCLUDE IS IT'LL LOOK BEYOND JUST THIS EXISTING SITE. 
          IT'LL GO TO A REGIONAL OR A LARGER TRANSPORTATION NETWORK. 
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WILL BE INCLUDED. ALSO MULTIPLE LOCATIONS ALONG D AND T. IT WILL INCLUDE SOME PLANNING LEVEL ASSUMPTIONS. THE SIZE OF THE ARENA WHAT WE ANTICIPATE WILL OVERLAP THE EVENING COMMUTE AND IT WILL DEVELOP MITIGATION MEASURES BASED ON THESE NUMBERS AND THEN IT WILL ALLOW US TO TEST DIFFERENT POTENTIAL STRATEGIES BASED ON THESE NUMBERS TO MITIGATE THOSE CONCERNS. SO WHAT THE PRELIMINARY STUDY IS GOING TO FOCUS ON, I MENTIONED THE REGIONAL NETWORK. IT WILL LOOK AT SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS THAT WE'VE ALREADY HAD BROUGHT TO US AND SOME OTHER THINGS. 
          THE CUT THROUGHS. IT WILL DEVELOP A PRELIMINARY MITIGATION NETWORK OR A FRAMEWORK, BUT IT WILL NOT LIST THE FINAL IMPROVEMENTS UNTIL WE PROCEED FORWARD WITH THE DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROJECT. THE NEIGHBORHOOD PROTECTION MEASURES. THIS WILL LOOK AT SOME OF THE ENTRANCES AND WHETHER THERE NEEDS TO BE DIFFERENT MEASURES IN PLACE, CLOSING ROADS, DIFFERENT GATE SYSTEMS AND WHATNOT. BUT AGAIN, IT WILL NOT LOOK AT ANYTHING FINAL OR PROPOSE ANYTHING FINAL UNTIL THE DEVELOPMENT MOVES FORWARD. LATER PHASE ANALYSIS. 
          WE'LL LOOK AT THOSE PROJECT OR LOCATION SPECIFIC SOLUTIONS. 
          OBVIOUSLY THEY'LL INCLUDE A FINAL TRANSPORTATION IMPACT ANALYSIS OR TIA AND ALSO INCLUDE AN EVENT OPERATIONS PLAN. THIS IS JUST A HIGH LEVEL OVERLOOK AT THE SCHEDULE. 
          ASSUMING THIS ITEM IS APPROVED. 
          WE WILL BEGIN. TRAFFIC COUNTS WILL START AS SOON AS SCHOOL GOES BACK. WE'LL START BUILDING THE DIFFERENT MODELS AND THE SCENARIOS AND WE'LL SHARE AS WE GET INFORMATION AVAILABLE. WE EXPECT THAT THERE'LL BE ADDITIONAL PUBLIC MEETINGS WITH THIS PROCESS AND THIS INITIAL OR PRELIMINARY PHASE WILL GO THROUGH BASICALLY NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR. WITH THAT, I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU, CALEB. 
          COUNCILMEMBER LAVINE. 
          THANK YOU, CALEB. THANK YOU. 
          YOU KNOW, IN THE PAST, THE MAVERICKS AND THE STARS HAVEN'T PLAYED ON THE SAME DATE BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T SHARING THE ARENA. 
          BUT THAT COULD AND PROBABLY WOULD HAPPEN AFTER 2031. 
          ASSUMING THAT THE MAVERICKS DO MOVE TO NORTH DALLAS, OR EVEN IF THEY DON'T, THAT'S GOING TO BE A UNIQUE TRAFFIC SITUATION WITH BOTH TEAMS PLAYING ON THE SAME EVENING ALONG THE DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY. WILL THAT BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT IN THE STUDY? SO I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE'LL CONSIDER. WE'VE GOT OUR CONSULTANT HERE TONIGHT THAT'S GETTING INTO THEIR REALM AND THEIR EXPERTISE. WHETHER OR NOT THOSE WOULD HAVE A DIRECT IMPACT TO EACH OTHER. I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT MILEAGE, BUT THERE'S SIGNIFICANT MILEAGE BETWEEN WHAT I'VE HEARD IS THE PROPOSED LOCATION FOR THE MAVERICKS AND WHERE THIS WOULD BE AT. I DON'T KNOW, JOSH, IF. 
          WHERE IS HE AT? YEP. 
          DID YOU HEAR THE QUESTION? YES. 
          GREAT. 
          OKAY. EVENING. SO THE QUESTION WAS WHETHER WE'D BE ANALYZING STARS AND MAVERICKS GAMES AT THE SAME TIME. AND WE'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON THE AREA WITHIN THE CITY OF PLANO AND SPECIFIC TO THE PROJECT AREA. 
          SO THAT TENDS TO BE OUTSIDE THE AREA AND IS A LITTLE BIT PROBABLY SPECULATIVE FOR WHAT OUR STUDY IS GOING TO COVER. WE'RE TRYING TO COVER WHAT WE KNOW. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER THOMAS. 
          THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TODAY. MY THOUGHT GOES BACK TO THE CITIZENS. AS TIME GOES ON, ESPECIALLY AFTER TODAY, AFTER YOUR PRESENTATION, WILL THERE BE OPPORTUNITY FOR CITIZENS TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE INPUT AS IT RELATES TO TRAFFIC AS TIME GOES ON? IF SO, HOW CAN THEY DO THAT? YEAH, SO THIS IS JUST A PRELIMINARY PHASE WE EXPECT FOR THIS PROCESS. AGAIN, I MENTIONED THE LATER PHASES. AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE'RE GOING TO DEVELOP DIFFERENT MITIGATION FRAMEWORK, BUT WE WILL NOT HAVE THE FINAL SOLUTIONS. SO THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES. WE DO HAVE ADDITIONAL PUBLIC MEETINGS BUILT INTO THIS. THEY'RE NOT SCHEDULED TO THIS DATE, BUT WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN WELCOME. AS WE GET FURTHER ALONG IN THE PROCESS, WE'LL OFFER THOSE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE CITIZENS. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          YEP. 
          THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. 
          APPRECIATE IT. OKAY, I THINK WE HAVE SOME SPEAKERS. 
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WE DO. WE HAVE FOUR SPEAKERS. 
          THE FIRST ONE IS JACK LAGOS. 
          GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JACK LAGOS. I LIVE IN PLANO. 
          I'M HERE TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS ON THE ITEM Z, WHICH I REFER TO AS ZULU, AND GIVE YOU TWO COMMENTS THAT I PICKED UP FROM YOUR AGENDA. ITEM ITEM ONE, WE SHOULDN'T BE SPENDING $320,000 FOR THIS STUDY. 
          WHY? WHO'S GOING TO GET THE BENEFIT OF THAT? IT'S GOING TO BE THE DEVELOPER, WHICH IS CENTENNIAL. THE OTHER PARTY THAT'S GOING TO GET THE BENEFIT OF THAT IS THE STARS. SO MY COMMENT IS, WHY AREN'T THEY PAYING FOR NOT US? NOW, AS YOU WELL REMEMBER, ON JUNE 8TH, YOU VOTED $700 MILLION TO THE STARS. YOU DON'T THINK THEY HAVE MONEY OR, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T THINK THEY CAN GET THAT 7, $700,000 AND USED IT FOR THIS STUDY. IT BENEFITS THEM. IT ONLY BENEFITS US AS A SIDELINE. SECOND POINT I'M MAKING. THIS STUDY SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE THREE TO SIX MONTHS AGO. THE REASON IS YOU SHOULD DO THE STUDY FIRST BEFORE YOU VOTE THE MONEY. 
          DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? NOW YOU'RE ALL LOOKING AT ME AND YOU CAN'T SAY ANYTHING TO ME. BUT YOU'RE ALL INTELLIGENT PEOPLE. YOU DO THE STUDY FIRST, THEN YOU DECIDE FROM THAT STUDY WHAT YOU DO NEXT. YOU WENT WITH THE MONEY, NOW YOU'RE DOING THE STUDY. I'LL ADD ANOTHER POINT TO THIS. YOU'RE DOING THIS STUDY NOW. IT'S PROJECTED TO BE FINISHED IN MAYBE OCTOBER, NOVEMBER. 
          HOWEVER, COME LATE AUGUST, SEPTEMBER, YOU'VE GOT TO MAKE A DECISION ON AN ORDINANCE TO PUT ON THE BALLOT FOR THE CITIZENS TO VOTE ON THAT TAX THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. NOW, WHAT I'D LIKE TO SUMMARIZE WITH, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO SAY SOME MORE, IS YOU DID EVERYTHING BACKWARDS. YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN ASKING THE CITIZENS FIRST, NOT TAXPAYERS, ON WHETHER THEY WANTED THIS INSTEAD OF RUNNING OFF AND VOTING $700 MILLION TO THIS PROJECT. NOW, WHEN YOU HAD TWO, TWO MEETINGS, WHICH WAS ON JULY 8 AND JULY 14, NOBODY WAS PREPARED, AS FAR AS I COULD TELL, TO TALK TO THE CITIZENS THAT SHOWED UP THERE, MANY OF THEM FROM WILLOW BEND, AN OLD SHEPHERD, ABOUT ANYTHING TO DO WITH TRAFFIC. THAT'S WHAT THEIR MAIN QUESTION WAS, WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO US WHO LIVE THERE? OKAY. SO I THINK YOU NEED TO START FOCUSING ON THE CITIZENS BEFORE YOU START DOING ALL THESE OTHER THINGS. AND THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN WHAT YOU'RE DOING. 
          KEEP IN MIND, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT PUT YOU IN OFFICE. THE STARS DIDN'T PUT YOU IN OFFICE, NOR DID THE DEVELOPER PUT YOU IN OFFICE. AND YOU DO NOT WANT TO UPSET CITIZENS, PARTICULARLY CITIZENS THAT LIVE IN WILLOW BEND. THEY'RE WELL TO DO, AND THEY'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND MAKE THEIR MINDS KNOWN TO YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THE NEXT SPEAKER IS DIANE WILLIAMS. GOOD EVENING. 
          I'M GOING TO HAVE TO BREAK RULE NUMBER ONE JUST A LITTLE BIT. THANK YOU. I LIVE AT 5704 ROSWELL IN PLANO IN THE WILLOWBEND AREA. I'VE LIVED IN BOTH WILLOWBEND, PLANO AND THE WILLOWBIN MEADOWS. AND I'M COMING BEFORE YOU TONIGHT TO SHARE A FEW THOUGHTS. THE CITY HAS COMMITTED TO PLANO CITIZENS TO HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF THE IMPACT OF THE INCREASED TRAFFIC IN THE WILLOW BEND DISTRICT, WHICH SURROUNDS THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT, WHICH YOU ALL TOOK A VOTE ON IN JUNE, AND YOU'RE DOING SO BEFORE YOU ALLOW THE REDEVELOPMENT TO OCCUR. 
          TO THAT END, THE CITY PLANS TO ENGAGE THE ENGINEERING FIRM TO PERFORM A TRAFFIC STUDY TO PROJECT THE IMPACT ON OPERATIONS, TRAFFIC OPERATIONS, PARKING, DEMAND TRANSIT OPPORTUNITIES AND NEIGHBORHOOD ACCESS. MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY HAVE EXTENSIVE HAVE HAD EXTENSIVE DIALOGUE WITH JOSH PETERMAN, THE TRAFFIC 
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STUDY LEAD, AS WELL AS MARK ISRAELSON, AND HAVE LEARNED THAT THE TRAFFIC STUDY DESIGN WILL EXCLUDE NOT ONLY THE STREETS AND NEIGHBORHOODS EAST OF THE DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY, THOSE ARE THE ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS OF THE WILLOW BEND DISTRICT, BUT ALSO THE ALREADY APPROVED DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS THAT WILL BE COMPLETED BY THE TIME THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT CONCLUDES. 
          THOSE PROJECTS INCLUDE AT&T6 TO 10,000 ADDITIONAL PEOPLE, THE PLAZA AT SPRING CREEK, THAT'S AT SPRING CREEK AND THE DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY. 300,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL ON THE EAST SIDE, HAGGARD FARM DEVELOPMENT, THAT'S EAST SPRING CREEK AND DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY. THAT WILL ADD A LIST TOO LONG TO TO INCLUDE SO I DON'T RUN OVER TIME. THE CITY HAS ALSO APPROVED PARKS AT LEGACY JCPENNEY HEADQUARTERS REDEVELOPMENT. AND THE CITY OF CARROLLTON HAS APPROVED BILLINGSLEY'S MORGAN HILL DEVELOPMENT AT GEORGE BUSH AND MIDWAY, WHICH WILL INCLUDE 375 UNITS. AN ADDITIONAL POINT THAT RAISES CONCERNS OF RESIDENTS IS A SAFETY CONCERN WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF AN ADDITIONAL EIGHT STORY MEDICAL BUILDING AT TEXAS HEALTH HOSPITAL. THAT CAMPUS AND THE ER DEPARTMENT OF THAT HOSPITAL WILL CONTINUE TO FACE 20 SECONDS WILL CONTINUE TO FACE COMMUNICATIONS PARKWAY. AND ALL OF THAT IS WITHIN THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT BOUNDARY. SO THE INCREMENTAL AND COLLECTIVE IMPACT OF EACH OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS ON TRAFFIC IN PLANO HAS NOT BEEN STUDIED, LET ALONE THE ADDITIONAL IMPACT ON TRAFFIC, PARKING, TRANSPORTATION AND ON THE ESTABLISHED SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS. SO IN CONCLUSION, I'LL HURRY UP SINCE I'M OUT OF TIME. YEAH, I'M OUT OF TIME. 
          GO AHEAD AND WRAP IT UP. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          I'LL WRAP IT UP. OKAY. THE RESULTS WILL NOT ONLY SHOW THE. 
          WILL ONLY SHOW THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT TRAFFIC VOLUMES OVERLAID ONTO A FIVE YEAR OLD TRAFFIC PATTERN, NOT A NEW PATTERN THAT INCLUDES ALL THIS OTHER DEVELOPMENT. SO WE WOULD ASK YOU TONIGHT TO REDESIGN THE TRAFFIC STUDY SO THAT ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT CAN BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT. THAT WILL BE IN PLACE WHEN THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT GOES IN AND INCLUDE THE STREETS AND ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS TO THE EAST OF THE DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THE NEXT SPEAKER IS LITA BARROW. 
          GOOD EVENING MAYOR MUNS AND THE HONORABLE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS LITA BARROW. I HAVE LIVED IN PLANO SINCE 1989 AND I HAVE SEEN MANY CHANGES DURING THAT TIME. I HAPPEN TO HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE CITIZENS TASK FORCE THAT WORKED VERY WELL WITH THE CITY OF PLANO, WITH THE MERCHANTS, WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          REGARDING THE PRESTON CORRIDOR STUDY FOR THE OVERPASSES, AT THAT TIME WE WERE LOOKING AT A $26.5 MILLION INVESTMENT FROM TAXPAYERS, STATE AND CITY. AND THEN IT WAS SHOWN THAT IT REALLY DIDN'T HAVE THE BENEFIT TO JUSTIFY THAT. SO THAT OTHER ALTERNATIVES WERE DONE TO ADDRESS THAT. WHAT WE HAVE NOW IS A VERY GRAVE CONCERN FROM THE HOMEOWNERS BECAUSE THIS TRAFFIC STUDY, THE INITIAL ONE, DOES NOT INCLUDE THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO THE EAST OF THE DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY. 
          AND THAT'S CONCERNING TO US BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE GEORGE BUSH AND THE TOLLWAY AND THE WAYS THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME IN WHEN THEY SEE THAT THERE IS AN ABSOLUTE GRIDLOCK AT GEORGE BUSH AND THE TOLLWAY. PEOPLE ARE GOING TO START GETTING OFF EARLIER AND EARLIER, WHICH MEANS THAT WE HAVE COIT, WE HAVE PRESTON ROAD AND THEN TRAFFIC GOING DOWN PLANO PARKWAY TO CUT UP RIGHT THROUGH THE HEART OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE WE HAVE TWO SCHOOLS, WE HAVE PARKS, AND THAT IS A VERY BIG CONCERN FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR AREA. 
          THE CITIZENS IN THIS AREA WOULD LIKE TO WORK LIKE WE DID IN THE PAST WITH OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS. AND IT WASN'T A MEAN THING, IT WASN'T POLITICAL. WE WERE 
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WORKING TOGETHER WITH THE CITY OF EXCELLENCE, WITH OUR LEADERS, WITH OUR PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT WE CAME TOGETHER AND WE LOOKED AT EVERY POSSIBLE THING. WE'RE NOT AGAINST IT. WE APPRECIATE, MAYOR, YOUR STATEMENT THAT YOU LIKE TO WELCOME CLASS PARTNERS TO COMMUNITY FOCUSED INVESTMENT. THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO. WE WANT THAT. WE WANT TO SEE AND WE WANT TO FEEL COMFORTABLE ABOUT IT. I ASK YOU TO PLEASE, RESPECTFULLY, MAYOR MUNS AND CITY COUNCILMEMBERS TO CONSIDER PLACING THE CREATION OF A CITIZENS TASK FORCE ON A FUTURE CITY COUNCIL AGENDA OR IMMEDIATELY DIRECT CITY STAFF TO EVALUATE THE FORMATION OF THIS. IT IS A WIN, WIN SITUATION. IT'LL ADDRESS THE CONCERNS, IT'LL ADDRESS THE LACK OF TRUST. IT'LL SHOW, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SHOW US ALL THE GOOD THINGS THAT YOU ALL ARE PLANNING THAT WE'RE CONFIDENT IN. THANK YOU. AND IT WAS NICE TALKING TO YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I HOPE YOU'LL GIVE THIS REAL, REAL SERIOUS CONSIDERATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ROBERT BARROW, THREE MAYOR MUNS, CITY COUNCILMEMBERS. I'M GOING TO BE VERY BRIEF BECAUSE BASICALLY WHAT I'M. WHAT I'M WANTING TO BRING UP IS BASICALLY A LOT OF THE SAME FACTS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND WHAT MAINLY THE CITIZENS OF PLAINTIFF ARE CONCERNED ABOUT, WHICH IS THE TRAFFIC. AND IF WE LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING, WHAT WE'RE PROJECTING TO HAVE HERE IS A 20,000 SEAT ARENA. AND WHAT I'M AFRAID OF IS THAT MAYBE SOME, SOME OF THESE NUMBERS THAT I'M GOING TO, STATS THAT I'M GOING TO PRESENT THAT MAYBE ARE NOT BEING TAKEN UNDER CONSIDERATION. WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS FOR A SAY, FOR INSTANCE, THE EXISTING AMERICAN AIRLINES CENTER IS 18,500 SEATS FOR THE DALLAS STARS. AND IT TAKES A MASSIVE BEHIND THE SCENES OPERATION TO KEEP EVERYTHING RUNNING. 
          ON ANY GIVEN GAME NIGHT, 1,000 TO 1,500 PLUS SUPPORT WORKERS ARE ON SITE. THAT MEANS FOOD AND BEVERAGE CONCESSIONS, VENDORS, 500 TO 700 GUEST SERVICES, USHERS AND TICKET TAKERS, 250 TO 400, SECURITY AND SAFETY PERSONNEL, 150 TO 250 JANITORIAL, SANITATION, FACILITIES, 100 TO 150 OPERATIONS AND ICE CREW 30 TO 50 PRODUCTION AV AND ENTERTAINMENT 40 TO 70 PARKING AND TRAFFIC CONTROL 50 TO 80. 
          AND WE'RE NOT THINKING. IF WE LOOK AT THE TIMEFRAME WHEN ALL THIS HAPPENS, IT'S AN ALL DAY AFFAIR. IT DOESN'T JUST HAPPEN FROM 7 TO 12 OR 7 TO 10 WHENEVER THE GAME IS GOING ON. DELIVERIES AND HEAVY VENDORS OPERATIONS START AT 8AM TO 12PM THAT'S LOADING DOCK AND SUPPLIERS HEAVY FREIGHT, BEVERAGE OF DELIVERIES, SPECIALTY EQUIPMENT AND RETAIL MERCHANDISE. BROADCAST MEDIA TRUCKS AND TEXT OUTSIDE BROADCAST TRUCKS. TV CREW TECHNICIANS ARRIVE EARLY IN THE MORNING OFTEN 8 TO 10 HOURS BEFORE THE GAME TIME. 
          TWO PREMIUM HOSPITALITY AND CULINARY STAFF 1PM TO 3PM THAT'S WHEN THEY ARRIVE. 
          THE RESTAURANT STAFF, WHICH OFFICIAL ARENA FOOD, STREET CATERING AND CONCESSION PREP TEAMS SHOW UP FOUR TO SIX HOURS BEFORE PUCK DROP PREP PREPARATION. KITCHEN TEAMS BEGIN PREPPING SUITE ORDERS AND ARENA CONCESSIONS AND THE GAME NIGHT SUPPORT STAFF AND SECURITY THEY GET THERE AT - THE ARENA STAFF, SECURITY TEAMS AND GUEST SERVICES, USHERING PERSONNEL, TICKET TAKERS AND RETAIL TEAM STORE CLERKS REPORT ABOUT 2 AND A HALF TO 3 AND A HALF HOURS BEFORE THE GAME. PRE GAME BRIEFING, SECURITY SWEEPS, BAG CHECK STATIONS, SETUPS, 20 SECONDS. ALL THESE HAPPEN. 
          EXTERNAL VENDORS AND ENTERTAINMENT START FROM TO ALL THESE ARE THINGS THAT I HOPE THAT YOU TAKE OR THAT ARE TRAFFIC. AND THE STUDIES THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING ENCOMPASS AND INCLUDE THIS BECAUSE THIS IS AN ALL DAY AFFAIR. THIS IS NOT JUST A GAME TIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          OKAY, NO OTHER SPEAKERS. 
          ITEM Z IS A IS FOR US TO APPROVED THE CONTRACT FOR THE TRAFFIC STUDY. I'M JUST KIND OF REMINDING YOU THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. GO AHEAD. 
          THANK YOU. SO I THINK SOME OF 
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THE SPEAKERS DID BRING UP A POINT THAT IS THERE ANY WAY FOR THE FOR THE TRAFFIC STUDY TO BE EXPANDED TO THE EAST SIDE? I MEAN I GUESS I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT IT WAS JUST ON THE WEST SIDE OF PLANO OR WEST SIDE OF THE TOLLWAY. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S IN THE WORKS OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IS. THAT COULD BE EXPANDED INTO THE STUDY ITSELF. 
          YEAH, I WAS GOING TO HAVE JOSH WITH FARRAH AND PIERCE COME TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT OF THE SCOPE AND THE AREA THAT'S BEING ANALYZED IN THIS PHASE. 
          WELL, AGAIN WE HAD TALKED ABOUT. SO IT DOES. THE STUDY THAT WE'VE CURRENTLY SCOPED DOES GO JUST EAST OF THE TOLLWAY. IT GOES TO PARKWOOD. WE HAD TALKED ABOUT GOING BEYOND THAT AT ONE POINT. BUT WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS THIS STUDY ON THE IMMEDIATE PROJECT AREA AROUND THE DEVELOPMENT LOCATION. 
          WHY IS THAT? WHY IS THAT? FOR SPECIFICITY. 
          AND IT'S JUST THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT WE NEGOTIATED WITH THE CITY THAT WE CAN DO IN A CERTAIN TIME PERIOD. WE DISCUSSED SORT OF TWO PHASES OF WORK. AN INITIAL PHASE THAT CAN HAPPEN IN THESE FIRST FEW MONTHS. 
          SO THE INITIAL PHASE IS CURRENTLY FOCUSED ON JUST AROUND THE TOLLWAY. 
          BUT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT ANOTHER PHASE IN WHICH WE'RE GOING TO EXPAND IT SO THAT IT WOULD COVER THE EAST SIDE? RIGHT, IT WILL. 
          WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS GOING POTENTIALLY ALL THE WAY TO PRESTON, BUT THAT'S A CONVERSATION THAT WE TABLED RIGHT NOW. IT GOES TO. GOES TO PARKWOOD. 
          OKAY. SO IN OTHER WORDS, WE'RE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT ONE PHASE OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY, BUT WE ARE EVENTUALLY GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT TRAFFIC STUDY THAT'S GOING TO POTENTIALLY EXPAND, WHETHER WITH YOU OR NOT, BUT POTENTIALLY EXPAND TO FURTHER EAST OF THE TOLLWAY, IS THAT RIGHT? SORRY. FOR TONIGHT, WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THIS PHASE ONE WITH. 
          WITH US. WHAT HAPPENS BEYOND THAT IS YOU DON'T KNOW EXACTLY. 
          OKAY. THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING FOR THE CITY TO DETERMINE, IS THAT RIGHT? CORRECT. 
          OKAY, THANKS. 
          JUST REAL QUICK, FOR CLARIFICATION, THAT IS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS CURRENT CONTRACT. 
          CORRECT. 
          IT WOULD BE A CONTRACT MODIFICATION OR A FUTURE CONTRACT TO EXPAND GOING FURTHER EAST. 
          CORRECT. 
          IT WOULD BE. 
          CORRECT. 
          IT'D BE A CONTRACT MODIFICATION WITH US OR A SEPARATE CONTRACT WITH SOMEBODY ELSE. 
          UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU. 
          YES, FOR CLARIFICATION, CALEB, WE HAD A. WE HAD A FIGURE, A MAP HERE WHERE YOU WERE LOOKING AT, AND YOU OUTLINED WHERE ALL THE. I JUST WANT TO PRESENT THIS FOR CLARIFICATION AGAIN. WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE IS ALL THOSE YELLOW DOTS ARE REALLY WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO START DOING THE SAMPLING. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, SORRY. 
          YEAH, THAT'S THE PRELIMINARY PHASE. 
          THIS IS A PRELIMINARY PHASE AND ONCE WE GET THIS DATA, WE'LL BE COMING BACK WITH A CONTRACT MODIFICATION TO EXPAND FURTHER OUT. 
          RIGHT. AND RIGHT NOW WE DO NOT HAVE A SITE PLAN FOR THE DEVELOPMENT. WE DON'T HAVE A CIRCULATION PLAN. YOU KNOW, SO THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF ASSUMPTIONS THAT WE'RE WORKING BEHIND. SO GOING BEYOND THIS AREA FOR A DETAILED ANALYSIS WITHOUT HAVING THOSE DETAILS ON BOARD, IT JUST. IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE BENEFICIAL AT THIS POINT AS WE GET FURTHER ALONG. IF THIS PROCESS CONTINUES TO MOVE FORWARD, THEN WE'LL EXPAND THAT ANALYSIS. 
          THERE. 
          MR. MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEM Z AS PRESENTED. 
          MAY I SECOND THE MOTION? OKAY, SO I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND TO APPROVE ITEM Z, WHICH WOULD BE THE TRAFFIC STUDY CONTRACT. PLEASE VOTE. 
          MOTION. MOTION PASSES, 8 TO 0. 
          [(1) 26-626 Public Hearing and consideration of a Resolution to authorize a Substantial Amendment to the 2025-2029 Consolidated Plan and 2025-2026 Action Plan for the use of U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development Community Development Block Grant; and providing an effective date.]
ALL RIGHT ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS APPLICANTS ARE LIMITED TO 15 MINUTES PRESENTATION TIME WITH A 5 MINUTE REBUTTAL IF NEEDED. REMAINING SPEAKERS ARE LIMITED TO 30 TOTAL MINUTES OF TESTIMONY TIME WITH 3 MINUTES ASSIGNED PER SPEAKER. 
          THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY AMEND THESE TIMES AS DEEMED NECESSARY. NON PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL PERMIT COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT ON ON THE AGENDA, NOT POST FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL ESTABLISH TIME LIMITS BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKER REQUESTS, LENGTH OF THE AGENDA AND TO ENSURE MEETING EFFICIENCY AND MAY INCLUDE A CUMULATIVE TIME LIMIT. SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER THE REQUESTS ARE RECEIVED UNTIL THE CUMULATIVE TIME IS EXHAUSTED. 
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ITEM NUMBER ONE PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION TO TO AUTHORIZE SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENT TO THE 2025 THROUGH 2029 CONSOLIDATED PLAN AND THE 2025 TO 2026 ACTION PLAN FOR THE USE OF U.S. 
          DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. 
          GOOD EVENING MAYOR COUNCIL CURTIS HOWARD, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER AND I HAVE TWO ITEMS HERE. I'M GOING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS. THE FIRST ONE THAT WE HAVE IS GOING TO BASICALLY BE A SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENT TO THE CURRENT ACTION PLAN AND CONSOLIDATED PLAN THAT WE HAVE. WE HAVE A PROJECT IN MIND THAT WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR AUTHORIZATION FOR AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT WE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PUT THAT INTO OUR ACTION PLAN AND CONSOLIDATED PLAN. THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING IS GOING TO HAVE TO DO WITH THE ACTION PLAN FOR 2627. 
          SO MOVING FORWARD ON THIS, WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS A PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENT PROJECT IN THE DOUGLAS COMMUNITY. WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT, AND THIS IS A PILOT PROGRAM FOR US. WE AS A, AS A CITY HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING LIKE THIS USING FEDERAL FUNDS. 
          WHAT WE NORMALLY DO IS WE USE FEDERAL FUNDS TO HELP INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS DO REHAB, THAT THAT SORT OF THING. THIS IS GOING TO BE MORE OF A PUBLIC PROJECT THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT AN AREA. SO WE'VE GOT A SMALL AREA OF DOUGLAS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT PUTTING IN APPROXIMATELY $50,000 TO TRY AND CLEAN IT UP A LITTLE BIT. SO THIS IS GOING TO BE TO REMOVE SOME OF THOSE LINES THAT ARE HANGING OVERHEAD, THOSE CABLE LINES BY SPECTRUM AND FRONTIER CABLE LINES THAT ARE INACTIVE THAT THEY WILL BE REMOVED. CABLE LINES THAT ARE STILL ACTIVE WILL BE BURIED AND CONNECTED TO THE HOUSES TO TRY AND START CLEANING THIS UP A LITTLE BIT. 
          AND THE REASON WE'RE DOING THIS AS A PILOT PROGRAM IS BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER REQUIREMENTS THAT WE'VE GOT TO DO WITH HUD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE AS A DEPARTMENT, WE AS A CITY CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE MEET THE REQUIREMENTS AND KIND OF GET SEE IF THIS IS GOING TO BE A FEASIBLE WAY OF USING OUR HUD FUNDING IN THE FUTURE. SO AS I SAID, THIS IS GOOD. THIS WAS ORIGINALLY, YOU ORIGINALLY APPROVED OUR CONSOLIDATED PLAN, OUR ACTION PLAN. AND SO WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW IS BASICALLY WE'RE TRYING TO AMEND THAT TO INCLUDE THE ABILITY FOR US TO HAVE THIS PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT. AND AS I SAID, THE SCOPE IS GOING TO CLEAN UP THOSE LINES. AND COUNCILMEMBER HORNE, I THINK LAST TIME I WAS HERE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU ASKED IS, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS IS WHAT ABOUT THE ELECTRICAL LINES THAT ARE ON THERE? AND IN ORDER TO KIND OF ANSWER THAT QUESTION, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE HAVE IS WE DO HAVE SOME LIMITED FUNDING AND BURYING THOSE ELECTRICAL LINES. 
          THE AMOUNT OF WORK IT'S GOING TO COST, THE AMOUNT WE GOT, SOME EASEMENT ISSUES WITH REGARDS TO THAT, CONDUITS AND TRANSFORMERS WOULD HAVE TO BE MODIFIED. AND AGAIN, THAT FUNDING LIMITATION WOULD CAUSE SOME ISSUES. SO AGAIN, WITH THE FUNDING THAT WE HAVE AT $50,000, WE'RE PROPOSING TO USE THAT ON THIS PILOT PROGRAM. AND THE LANGUAGE THAT WE HAVE CHANGED, BASICALLY THE CONSOLIDATED PLAN IN ORDER TO HELP PEOPLE WHO ARE IN LOW TO MODERATE INCOME AREAS. AND THIS IS THE LANGUAGE THAT WE ARE CHANGING. AND SO WITH THAT, I WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND WE CAN OPEN IT UP FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. 
          ANY QUESTIONS FOR CURTIS COUNCILMEMBER KEHR? HI, CURTIS. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. I'M TRYING TO. IF WE'RE NOT ABLE TO REMOVE THE ELECTRIC LINES, THE POLLS STILL HAVE TO REMAIN WHEN WE PULL DOWN THE TELCO LINES. 
          YES, SIR. 
          HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE BENEFIT OF DOING THIS IF THE POLLS AND SOME LINES ARE STILL GOING TO BE THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          IF YOU, IF YOU, IF YOU GO THROUGH THAT DOUGLAS COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT THREE BLOCKS BETWEEN 11TH AND 12TH, KIND OF WHERE THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB IS AND THEN. AND GOING WEST. YOU KNOW, IF YOU JUST LOOK AT SOME OF THAT STUFF, THERE ARE JUST LINES HANGING OUT ALL OVER THE PLACE. AND SO AGAIN, IT IS A, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT $50,000 AND SO IT IS A PILOT PROGRAM TO TRY AND START CLEANING UP THAT AREA. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. WE'VE GOT FRONTIER AND SPECTRUM THAT WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH TO TRY AND HELP US OUT. SO IT IS A BEGINNING IN MANY WAYS ON USING THIS FEDERAL FUNDING TO HELP AN AREA. 
          OKAY. IT'S HELPING US TO UNDERSTAND MORE THAN JUST CLEAN UP OF THE LINES. THE LINES NEED TO BE CLEANED UP. 
          BUT WE ALSO WANT TO GAIN INFORMATION AND GAIN SOME, I GUESS, EXPERIENCE 
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IN USING THESE FUNDS IN WAYS TO HELP THE NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          AND THAT'S THE PILOT ASPECT OF THIS PROGRAM, IS, YOU KNOW, WHETHER, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS WE LOOK AT IS MAKING SURE ENGINEERING HAS THE CAPACITY TO DO IT AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT GO ALONG. 
          AND I AM NOT AN ENGINEER AND I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN BURYING POWER LINES, BUT I UNDERSTAND IT IS QUITE INVOLVED AND QUITE EXPENSIVE. AND SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE HURDLES THAT WE HAVE IN BURYING THOSE LINES DOWN IN THAT DOUGLAS COMMUNITY. 
          AND THE LINES THAT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO BURY, THESE LINES NEED TO BE ADDRESSED ANYWAY. AND IT DOES HELP SIGNIFICANTLY WITH, I GUESS, CLEANING UP THAT AREA IN TERMS OF VISUAL SIGHT LINES AND I GUESS, RISK AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          YEAH, JUST GOING THROUGH THAT. AND AS YOU'RE DRIVING IN THAT AREA, YOU SEE JUST. YOU JUST SEE A LOT OF, SAY, NOISE AS YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THAT, GOING INTO THOSE LINES. SO TRY AND TRY AND DO SOMETHING AT LEAST FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. 
          YES, SIR. 
          COUNCILMEMBER THOMAS, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY. I HEARD YOU SAY THAT THE 50,000 WOULD BE USED TO START CLEANING UP THE AREA AS IT RELATES TO THE CABLE LINE. 
          YES, MA'. 
          AM. 
          IS THERE TALK OR ARE THERE PLANS TO DISCUSS HOW THERE COULD BE SUPPORT AND RESOURCES TO FURTHER HELP WITH THE PROGRESSION OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD? BECAUSE THE DOUGLAS IS THE OLDEST OR IF ONE OF THE OLDEST NEIGHBORHOODS IN PLANO. AND IN MY OPINION, IT NEEDS SOME MORE WORK AND SOME MORE SUPPORT AND RESOURCES. SO ARE THERE TALKS OF GOING PAST THIS INITIATIVE TO HELP WITH THAT? THIS INITIATIVE IS IN CONJUNCTION WITH SOME INFRASTRUCTURE CHANGES AND SIDEWALK WORK THAT WE ARE DOING. SO THIS IS IN ADDITION TO THAT. SO SPECIFIC CONVERSATIONS, NOT YET. 
          BUT WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING NEW FOR US. 
          WE WANT. 
          WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS LOOK AND SEE HOW THIS WORKS. 
          IF WE. 
          IF WE'RE ABLE TO EFFECTIVELY USE THESE FUNDS AND HAVE THE CAPACITY TO DEAL WITH THIS PROJECT, THEN THAT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT ADDRESSING IN THE FUTURE. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          OKAY, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          WE HAVE A SPEAKER IN THIS ITEM. 
          OKAY. 
          DAVID EVANS. 
          GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS DAVID EVANS. I'M THE PRESIDENT FOR THE DOUGLAS COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. 
          WHAT CURTIS JUST PRESENTED HAS BEEN LIKE A 15 YEAR CONVERSATION, AT LEAST A 15 YEAR CONVERSATION THAT WE'VE HAD WITH THE CITY. THIS WAS FIRST BROUGHT UP AT LEAST 20 YEARS AGO, BUT WE FINALLY GOT IT TO THE TABLE 15 YEARS AGO WHEN HARRY. MAYOR HARRY, INCLUDED THE DOUGLAS COMMUNITY UNDER THE GREATER DOWNTOWN PLANO UMBRELLA. SO ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE HAD THEN WAS, WHAT IS THE BENEFIT OF THAT? WHY ARE WE NOW GOING TO BE UNDER THE GREATER DOWNTOWN PLANO UMBRELLA? AND IT WAS FOR PROJECTS LIKE THIS. IN CONVERSATIONS AND THROUGHOUT THE YEARS, WE HAVE ASKED ABOUT BEARING THESE POWER LINES, GETTING STREET LANTERNS BECAUSE OUR LIGHTING IS INADEQUATE AT NIGHT, AND ALSO GETTING THE SIDEWALKS RIGHT. SO SIDEWALKS ARE COMING. THEY'RE COMING. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE TOLD WAS THERE WAS A MILLION DOLLARS A MILE TO BURY THESE POWER LINES AND TO GET STREET LANTERNS. AND SO MY QUESTION THEN WAS, OKAY, WELL, WHAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH THAT? WE HAVE IT. WELL, WE WERE TOLD THAT THERE WAS NO FUNDS FOR IT, BUT IT'S DISAPPOINTING FOR US AS THE VERY FIRST COMMUNITY IN PLANO AND THE LOWEST INCOME COMMUNITY AND THE HIGHEST UNDERSERVED COMMUNITY IN PLANO TO LOOK THE WAY THAT IT LOOKS. 
          AND WE'RE UNDER THE GREATER DOWNTOWN PLANO UMBRELLA, RIGHT? BUT WE FOUND $700 MILLION TO GIVE TO THE STARS. BUT WE CAN'T FIND A MILLION DOLLARS A MILE FOR THE DOUGLAS COMMUNITY, WHICH IS THE FIRST COMMUNITY IN PLANO. SO MY QUESTION TO YOU ALL AND WHAT I'M ASKING YOU TO DO IS RECONSIDER. BECAUSE FIRST OF ALL, WE APPRECIATE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES FOR FINDING THIS MONEY, RIGHT, TO EVEN START THIS INITIAL WORK, RIGHT? BUT WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS FOR THE CITY TO FIND THE REST OF THE MONEY TO DO ALL OF IT AT THE SAME TIME. BECAUSE IT'S WAY PAST TIME FOR THIS TO HAVE HAPPENED. WE'VE HAD NOT ANY. WE REALLY HAVEN'T HAD ANY INFRASTRUCTURE REINVESTMENT INTO THE DOUGLAS COMMUNITY. 
          AND I KNOW AT LEAST 40 YEARS. 
          SO THAT'S MY QUESTION. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF ME? NO QUESTIONS. OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, DAVID. 
          NO OTHER SPEAKERS. 
          OKAY. 
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I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          CONFINE THE COMMENTS TO THE COUNCILMEMBERS ON ITEM NUMBER ONE. 
          COUNCILMEMBER LAVINE, I THINK YOU'RE UP. 
          THANK YOU. CURTIS, IS THE MILLION DOLLARS A MILE, IS THAT ACCURATE FOR BURYING THE POWER LINES AND HOW MANY MILES ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? COUNCILMAN I DO NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION ON COST AND AMOUNT OF THE LENGTH THAT IT WOULD BE TO BURY THAT STUFF. SO WE COULD TRY AND FIND THAT OUT FOR YOU. 
          COUNCILMAN IT IS JUST OVER A MILLION DOLLARS A MILE IS WHAT RECENT ESTIMATES HAVE HAD FOR. 
          FOR THAT. I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER OF MILES THAT WE HAVE ACTUALLY IN THE DOUGLAS COMMUNITY, BUT IT'S ALSO FINDING THE SPACE TO PUT THAT IN BECAUSE AGAIN, WHETHER IT'S EASEMENTS OR THE STREETS TAKING THOSE DOWN, AS CURTIS WELL KNOWS, NOW WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE SPACE TO PUT THE UTILITIES AS WELL. 
          AND THE, THE ELECTRIC UTILITY REQUIRES MORE SPACE BECAUSE OF, BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THAT. 
          BUT IT IS JUST OVER A MILLION DOLLARS A MILE WAS A NOT TOO RECENT ESTIMATE THAT WE HAVE FROM ENCORE, BUT THAT'S AN ACCURATE NUMBER. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THIS IS A START. 
          AND I EMPATHIZE WITH MR. EVANS AND WHAT HE'S SAYING AND I RECOGNIZE WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM. I THINK THE ENGINEERING LOGISTICS IN ITSELF YOU COULD PROBABLY LOOK AT HAVE SOME TYPE OF DUCT SYSTEM TO WHERE WE COULD BURY ELECTRICAL AND COMMUNICATIONS. BUT AGAIN, THAT'S VERY DISRUPTIVE BECAUSE YOU GOTTA PLACE IT SOMEWHERE. 
          AND SO I'M HOPING THAT WITH THE PASSAGE OF THIS THAT WE CAN TAKE A STEP FORWARD AND START IMPROVING THOSE AREAS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, SUCH AS THE SIDEWALKS AND MORE, OR GET RID OF THE UPPER OR SUSPENDED ELECTRICAL LINES AND START GETTING LIGHTS, BETTER LIGHTS FOR YOU. 
          BUT THAT BEING SAID, THIS IS A GOOD START. SO I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEM ONE AS PRESENTED. 
          MAYOR MUNS, I SECOND THE MOTION. 
          THANK YOU. SO I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER ONE. 
          PLEASE VOTE. MOTION PASSES 8 TO 0. ITEM NUMBER 2. 
          [(2) 26-625 Public Hearing and consideration of a Resolution to adopt the 2026-2027 Action Plan, including the summary of Community Development Block Grant and HOME Investment Partnerships Program activities and proposed use of funds for program year 2026-2027; and providing an effective date.]
ITEM NUMBER 2. PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION TO ADOPT THE 2026, 2027 ACTION PLAN, INCLUDING THE SUMMARY OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT AND HOME INVESTMENT PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM ACTIVITIES AND THE PROPOSED USE OF FUNDS FOR THE PROGRAM YEAR 2026, 2027, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. 
          MOVING ON TO OUR, OUR NEXT ISSUE HERE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE BEEN UP HERE BEFORE AND I TALKED TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ARE TWO, TWO MAJOR GRANTS THAT WE HAVE FROM HUD, CDBG GRANTS AND HOME FUNDING. 
          AGAIN, CDBG IS THE MORE FLEXIBLE OF THE TWO, ALLOWS US TO USE SOME OF THAT FUNDING FOR SOCIAL SERVICE. SOME OF THE FUNDING IS GOING TO BE REQUIRED FOR MORE OF THOSE HAMMER AND NAIL TYPE PROJECTS. AND THEN HOME FUNDING AND HOME FUNDING IS GOING TO BE MORE RESTRICTIVE AND THE USE OF THAT IS GOING TO BE EITHER FOR HOUSING PEOPLE OR THOSE HAMMER AND NAIL TYPE PROJECTS. 
          AND SO THERE ARE INCOME LIMITS ON THAT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IT BREAKS DOWN, 65% CAN BE USED FOR ELIGIBLE ACTIVITIES. AND THOSE ARE THE REHAB PROGRAMS, PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATIONS, SITE IMPROVEMENTS, INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS. 
          KIND OF LIKE WE JUST TALKED ABOUT. 15% OF THAT BUCKET CAN BE USED FOR SOCIAL SERVICES. AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT GETS USED UP PRETTY QUICKLY. JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH CAPACITY OR ENOUGH SPACE TO DO A LOT OF THOSE HAMMER AND NAIL TYPE PROJECTS. 
          AND THEN 20% FOR ADMINISTRATIVE FEES AGAIN. 
          NOW THE HOME FUNDING 15% OF THAT WILL GO TO A COMMUNITY HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATION. AND THEN FOR THOSE ELIGIBLE ACTIVITIES, HAMMER AND NAIL TYPE PROJECTS OR HOUSING PEOPLE PUTTING PEOPLE INTO HOUSES. AND THEN AS I'VE DISCUSSED, EACH ONE HAS SOME ADMINISTRATIVE FEES AND WE USE THAT HERE AT THE CITY OF PLANO TO OFFSET SOME OF THE COSTS THAT WE HAVE IN 
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ADMINISTERING THESE PROGRAMS. AND SO THE ALLOCATION PROCESS THAT WE HAVE IS LAST YEAR, THE CONSOLIDATED PLAN, THE FIVE YEAR CONSOLIDATED PLAN WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL. WE ARE JUST FINISHING UP OUR YEAR ONE ACTION PLAN. AND THIS TO IS GOING GOING TO BE FOR YEAR TWO, THE YEAR TWO ACTION PLAN. AND OUR CRC COMMUNITY RELATIONS COMMISSION HAS MET AND MET IN APRIL AND COME UP WITH RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW TO USE THE CDBG FUNDING, THE HOME FUNDING, AND THEN ALSO THE BUFFINGTON GRANT FUNDING, WHICH WILL BE A DECISION THAT YOU WILL HAVE FOR LATER. AND ABOUT THE MONEY THAT WE RECEIVED HERE, AGAIN, WE GOT A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THIS TIME AROUND IN BOTH CDBG AND HOME FUNDING. 
          AND SO CRC WAS ABLE TO COME UP WITH A WAY OF ALLOCATING THAT. AND HERE ARE THEIR CURRENT RECOMMENDATIONS ON USING THE CDBG FUNDING AND THE HOME FUNDING. AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO ASK YOU TO APPROVE FOR OUR ACTION PLAN THIS YEAR AND THEN FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, THE BUFFINGTON GRANT PROGRAM, WHICH WILL BE THROUGH THE NORMAL BUDGET PROCESS AND YOU WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPROVE THIS NEXT MONTH. SO WITH THAT, I WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS AND WE CAN OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC HEARING. 
          COUNCILMEMBER KEHR. 
          HEY, CURTIS, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE CHOTO. 
          YES, SIR. 
          CAN YOU SAY MORE ABOUT WHAT THAT IS AND WHERE THE MONEY GOES AND HOW IT'S ALLOCATED AND USED IN THE COMMUNITY? YEAH. 
          SO CHOTO'S COMMUNITY HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATIONS, THEY USE THAT AND THERE ARE SOME TAX INCENTIVES AND SOME OTHER WAYS THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO BUILD HOUSES. WE HAVE SOME IN THE DOUGLAS COMMUNITY THAT WERE JUST BUILT. AND SO THEY APPLY FOR THAT MONEY AND THEY CAN UTILIZE THAT MONEY TO BUILD SOMETHING LIKE YOU'VE SEEN IN THE DOUGLAS COMMUNITY. WE DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF ACTIVITY WITH CHOTOS JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF LAND TO BUILD ON. AND LAND IS SO EXPENSIVE HERE. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE LIMITATIONS, ONE OF THE HEADWINDS THAT WE HAVE IN BUILDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          MAYOR PRO TEM. 
          YES, CURTIS, REAL QUICK, SPRINGBOARDING ON COUNCILMEMBER KEHR'S A QUESTION REGARDING THE CHOTO. I KNOW EARLY ON IN MY TERM THERE WAS DISCUSSIONS ABOUT TRYING TO FIND A LOCAL CHOTO BECAUSE SOME WERE OUT OF CITY. HAVE WE HAD ANY? I MEAN, OUTSIDE WE'RE HAVING LAND ISSUES TRYING TO FIND. BUT HAVE WE HAD ANY LUCK FINDING A LOCAL CHOTO THAT WILL HELP US WITH THIS CONSTRUCTION? NOT, NOT, NOT. NOT REALLY. I MEAN WE HAVE. WE HAVE A COUPLE CHURROS THAT WE WORK WITH FROM THE AREA, BUT THAT IS IT. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT, THANKS. 
          FIRST. THANK YOU. 
          I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM. 
          I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND CONFINE THE COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL. 
          COUNCILMEMBER DOWNS, COUNCILMEMBER, MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS AGENDA ITEM. 
          OKAY, I GOT VIDAL. SORRY. 
          YOU GUYS ARE FAST. SO I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND. THANK YOU. SO I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER TWO. 
          PLEASE VOTE. MOTION PASSES EIGHT TO ZERO. THANK YOU. 
          [(3) 26-617 Public Hearing and consideration of a request to waive the fifty (50) foot maximum height requirement for the construction of a flagpole, as required by Code of Ordinances Chapter 6, Article XII, Division 6, Section 6-501 (a), to allow 2 flagpole(s) to exceed the fifty (50) foot height requirement by 100 feet for an overall height of 150 feet to be located at 3401 N Central Expressway.   Applicant: Clay Cooley KIA to be represented by Symonds Flags and Poles Inc.]
THANK YOU, CURTIS. ITEM THREE. 
          ITEM NUMBER THREE. PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF A REQUEST TO WAIVE THE 50 FOOT MAXIMUM HEIGHT REQUIREMENT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A FLAGPOLE AS REQUIRED BY THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, CHAPTER 6, ARTICLE 12, DIVISION 6, SECTION 6, 501A TO ALLOW TWO FLAG POLES TO EXCEED THE 50 FOOT HEIGHT REQUIREMENT BY 100FT FOR AN OVERALL HEIGHT OF 150FT TO BE LOCATED AT 3401 NORTH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY. 
          GOOD EVENING, I'M GINA SCOTT WITH THE BUILDING INSPECTIONS DEPARTMENT. I'M THE BUILDING INSPECTIONS MANAGER. 
          AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE HERE TO CONSIDER A FLIGHT POHOT REQUEST FOR CLAY COOLING LOCATED AT 3401 NORTH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY. YOUR FIRST SLIDE HERE IS JUST A VISUAL OF THEIR LOCATION ALONG 75. 
          THIS IS A SITE PLAN SHOWING THE PROPOSED LOCATIONS 
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OF THE FLIGHT POLES. THEY ON THE RIOSO SIDE. IT'S A 93 FOOT SETBACK THERE FOR YOUR NORTH SIDE WHICH IS EXACTLY ON YOUR RIGHT SIDE. IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE SITE PLAN, IT'S 121 FOOT SETBACKS DISTANCE TO THE PROPERTY LINE AND 75FT TO THE PROPERTY LINE IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING. HERE'S JUST A VISUAL SO YOU COULD JUST SEE THE GOOGLE EARTH WITH IT IMPOSED AND THAT'S WHERE THE PROPOSED LOCATION WILL BE ON THE PROPERTY. THESE ARE JUST DRAWINGS WHAT WILL BE SUBMITTED FOR THE BUILDING PERMIT. JUST ENGINEERED PLANS FOR THE POLL. AND HERE ARE FOUR OTHER INSTANCES WHERE WE HAVE. 
          THERE'S BEEN A FLAGPOLE HEIGHT WAIVER. FIRST 2007, THAT'S WHEN THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS WOULD HAVE APPROVED THAT VARIANCE. 
          AND THEN IT STARTED GOING TO COUNCIL AND COUNCILS HAVE APPROVED TWO LOCATIONS WITH IN 2018 AND ONE IN 2019. AND THIS IS THE CITY OF RICHARDSON. THIS IS A CLAY COULEE DEALERSHIP THAT EXISTS THERE. AND THIS IS JUST A VISUAL. SO YOU CAN SEE THESE FLAG POLES ARE 150 FOOT IN HEIGHT HERE. AND THEN THERE IS A DEALERSHIP AND ACTUALLY CLAY COULEE HAS A DEALERSHIP ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD HERE. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY ALSO HAVE FLAGS THAT SEEM TO BE APPROXIMATELY 150 FOOT IN HEIGHT. SO STAFF ANALYSIS IS THE SETBACKS TO REDUCE DETRIMENTAL IMPACTS TO SURROUNDING PROPERTIES LIKE THEY MEET THAT IMPROVING THE VISUAL QUALITY AND AESTHETIC OF US 75 CORRIDOR. P& Z EVALUATING PROHIBITING NEW POLL SIGNS TO TREAT US 75 THE SAME AS OTHER EXPRESSWAYS. US 75 CORRIDOR IS THE ONLY EXPRESSWAY CORRIDOR WITHOUT AN OVERLAY DISTRICT FOR ENHANCED AND SPECIALTY DESIGN STANDARDS AND SIGNAGE REGULATIONS SETTING A PRECEDENT ON US 75 CORRIDOR FOR OTHER PROPERTIES. LAST POINT WOULD BE THE CODE OF ORDINANCE PERMITS DISPLAYING AN EMBLEM OR LOGO OF THE BUSINESS AS PART OF A SINGLE CORPORATE FLAG. 
          APPLICANT PROPOSES TWO TWO 40 BY 80 FOOT FLAGS, WHICH IS 3200 SQUARE FEET, WHILE A GENERAL BUSINESS MONUMENT SIGN IS LIMITED TO 100 TO 150 FOOT AND A GENERAL BUSINESS SIGN IS 100 FOOT. AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMEMBER THOMAS. SORRY. 
          SO I SEE IN THE REPORT HERE THAT I HAVE THAT THE FLAG POLES COULD POSE A POTENTIAL HAZARD TO THE U.S. HIGHWAY 75 SERVICE ROAD. HOW LIKELY IS THAT? I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN ANSWER THAT. I KNOW THAT THERE IS NO REGULATION BUT TXDOT FOR THEM TO HAVE ANY KIND OF FALL PROTECTION. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER LAVINE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT SHOWED THE REPRESENTATION OF THE SIZE OF THE FLAG AND THE POLE? YOU COULD GO BACK ANOTHER. 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          YEAH, THAT ONE. SO THEY'RE SAYING THE MAX WOULD BE A 40 BY 80 FLAGPOLE. OUR FLAG, WHICH LOOKS TO BE ABOUT, I DON'T KNOW, ONE. WHOOPS, SORRY. ONE, TWO, THREE. IT'S LIKE FOUR. I DON'T KNOW, 40FT OUT OF 150FT. WHAT MY CONCERN IS THAT WHEN THAT GOES DOWN TO HALF MASTER, THAT COULD BE A VISUAL OBSTRUCTION. WIND COULD ALSO CAUSE SOME ISSUES. AND SO I'M CONCERNED ABOUT BOTH THE SIZE OF THE FLAG AND ITS IMPOSITION AGAINST OTHER BUSINESSES ALONG THE HIGHWAY. SO I'M. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. 
          I UNDERSTAND. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, I DO. 
          I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          COUNCILMEMBER 2 SO I SAW IN YOUR SLIDE THAT YOU SHOWED A FEW OF THE PHOTOS WHERE THERE ARE APPROVED FLAGS ALONG THE HIGHWAY. ARE THEY ALL FROM THE SAME PETITIONER? I MEAN, THE PEOPLE WHO. 
          YES, IT'S CLAY COOLEY. 
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SO THIS IS BECOMING LIKE THEIR SYMBOL. 
          BRANDING. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          THEIR BRANDING. HAVE YOU SEEN ANY OTHER, I GUESS, PETITIONS IN AREAS AROUND TEXAS OR DFW AREA THAT HAVE REQUESTED SIMILAR TYPE OF. 
          WELL, SIMILAR REQUESTS. 
          I DO NOT. ALL I KNOW IS OF THESE TWO LOCATIONS HERE. I'M SORRY. 
          YEAH. AND THEY'RE. THEY'RE ALL FROM THE SAME PERSON OR SAME COMPANY. I'M SORRY. 
          YES, THIS IS CLAY COOLEY DEALERSHIPS. 
          ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM. 
          I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          CONFINE THE COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL. COUNCILMEMBER KEHR. 
          MAYOR, THIS PAST WEEKEND, I WENT AND CHECKED OUT THE. 
          THE LOCATION AS WELL AS THE FLAGS AT THE OTHER. THE OTHER HAVE THE ORDINANCE THAT WERE WAIVED. AND, YOU KNOW, I STRUGGLE A LOT WITH THE SIZE OF THE FLAGPOLE, THE SIZE OF THE FLAG, THE IMPACT ON THE AREA. YOU KNOW, THE FLAGS THAT WE SAW FROM CLAY COULEE AND IRVING AS WELL AS IN RICHARDSON, THEY WERE EVEN WITH THE HIGHWAY OR PERHAPS BELOW. CLAY COULEE HERE IS WELL ABOVE US 75 BEFORE YOU EVEN ADD ON THE FLAG POLES. AND I JUST. 
          I FIND THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE A POTENTIAL DISTRACTION. 
          AND I ALSO NOTICED THAT THE FLAG POLES WILL BE TALLER THAN THE LIGHTS ON US 75. AND I JUST. IT JUST SEEMS TO BE TOO MUCH. AND I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT, I GUESS, SAFETY AND ABOUT THE IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORS, BUSINESSES AS WELL AS RESIDENTS. AND SO WITH HAVING SAID ALL THAT, I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO DENY. 
          OKAY. 
          MARIA, WERE YOU UP? YES. 
          OKAY, GO AHEAD. 
          I ALSO WANT TO. I KIND OF CONCUR WITH WHAT COUNCILMAN KARA SAYS. 
          TO ADD MY OWN POINT, THAT'S THE REASON WHY I WAS ASKING THIS QUESTION ABOUT THE BRANDING AND LOGO OF PUTTING THESE FLAGS UP. I MEAN, IF WE START TO DO THIS, THEN WE ARE SETTING PRECEDENTS FOR OTHER INDIVIDUALS WHO WANT TO ALSO HAVE THEIR OWN BRAND AND LOGO THAT MAY BE, YOU KNOW, SOME TYPE OF REQUEST FOR SOME TYPE OF POST GOING UP. AND I REALLY AM OPPOSED TO SUPPORTING ANY ONE COMPANY SINCE WE HAVE WONDERFUL COMPANIES ALL ALONG PLANO. SO I'M GOING TO SECOND WHAT COUNCILMAN KEHR'S MOTIONED MAYOR PRO TEM. 
          YES, MR. MAYOR, I DO APPRECIATE MR. COOLEY'S PATRIOTISM. I MEAN, HE CLEARLY DEMONSTRATE THAT ON LONG 183 AND ALSO IN RICHARDSON. BUT I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY WE SHOULD DEVIATE FROM ANY OF OUR OTHER EXPRESSWAY CORRIDOR OVERLAYS WITH REGARDS TO THE LIMITATIONS THAT WE HAVE ON OUR FLAG POLES THERE, WHICH BEING 50FT, I THINK 50FT WILL BE MORE THAN SUFFICIENT TO BE ABLE TO DISPLAY THAT PATRIOTISM ALONG 75. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD AGREE WITH BOTH COUNCILMEMBER KEHR AND COUNCILWOMAN MARIA TOO. 
          ALL RIGHT, SO I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO DENY THE REQUEST TO WAIVE THE 50 FOOT MAXIMUM HEIGHT REQUIREMENT FOR CONSTRUCTION OF FLAGPOLE. 
          PLEASE VOTE YES. 
          IT MEANS TONIGHT. 
          YES. HIS. YEAH, HIS MOTION WAS TO DENY, SO IT'S. SORRY, DIDN'T MEAN TO GET EVERYBODY CONFUSED. 
          ALL RIGHT, MOTION IS DENIED. 8 TO 0. 
          [(4) 26-665 Consideration to approve the purchase of the Drone as First Responder Program for a five (5) year contract for the Police Department in the estimated amount of $1,439,864 from Motorola Solutions, Inc. through an existing contract; and authorizing the City Manager to execute all necessary documents. (Texas Department of Information Resources Cooperative Contract No. DIR-CPO-5433)]
OKAY, ITEM 4, ITEM 4. 
          CONSIDERATION TO APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF THE DRONE AS FIRST RESPONDER PROGRAM FOR A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THE ESTIMATED AMOUNT OF $1,439,864 FROM MOTOROLA SOLUTIONS, INCORPORATED THROUGH AN EXISTING CONTRACT AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THIS PROGRAM IS CALLED THE DRONE AS A FIRST RESPONDER. AND WE HAVE A NUMBER OF DRONES THAT WE'VE HAD MAYBE APPROXIMATELY 30, AND WE'VE HAD THEM FIVE OR SIX YEARS. WE FLY THOSE THOUGH OUT OF THE BACK OF OUR TAHOES FOR THE PATROL OFFICERS, OUR TRAFFIC UNIT USES THOSE AND OUR SWAT TEAM. WHAT'S DIFFERENT ABOUT THESE DRONES THOUGH IS THEY WOULD BE LAUNCHED FROM ATOP CITY FACILITIES BASED OFF OF OUR COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH. 
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SO WHEN WE GET A CALL FOR SERVICE IN THAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THE DRONE, THAT DRONE WOULD BE LAUNCHED FROM ATOP THAT FACILITY. 
          THEY. 
          THE OTHER DIFFERENCE IS THE OTHER DRONES ARE OPERATED BY OUR SWORN POLICE OFFICERS. 
          THIS WOULD BE OUR CIVILIAN PROFESSIONAL STAFF WOULD BE DRIVING THOSE DRONES. AND THAT'S ONE DIFFERENCE. SO WHAT, AND WHAT'S IMPORTANT ABOUT THESE DRONES IS THEY'RE GOING TO IMPROVE OUR CAPABILITIES IN A NUMBER OF AREAS. THE INPUTS FROM THESE DRONES ARE GOING TO BE GOING INTO WHAT'S CALLED A REAL TIME INFORMATION CENTER. 
          AND THAT IS INFORMATION WHERE WE HAVE OUR CIVILIAN PROFESSIONAL STAFF OR GETTING INFORMATION IN TO PROVIDE, PROVIDE SITUATIONAL AWARENESS FOR OUR PATROL OFFICERS. 
          THAT'S WHAT'S KEY. WE'VE GOT VERY AGGRESSIVE RESPONSE TIME. 
          FIVE MINUTES FOR EMERGENCY CALLS, EIGHT MINUTES FOR ALL OTHER CALLS FOR SERVICE. THIS WOULD. THESE DRONES CAN GET THERE IN ABOUT TWO TO THREE MINUTES. SO THAT'S GOING TO GIVE US SEVERAL MINUTES OF ADDITIONAL TIME TO GET TO THOSE CALLS FOR SERVICE. 
          IT'S ALSO GOING TO IMPROVE OFFICER SAFETY ASPECT. THESE DRONES HAVE HEAT SEEKING CAPABILITY. SO IF BEFORE AN OFFICER GETS THERE, IF SOMEONE IS HIDING, AND WE'VE NEVER HAD A SITUATION WHERE AN OFFICER WAS ATTACKED BY SOMEONE HIDING, BUT THAT CERTAINLY CAN HAPPEN. 
          BUT IT IS NOT UNUSUAL FOR US TO GET TO A SCENE, PEOPLE HAVE RUN OFF AND THEY'RE HIDING IN THE BUSHES OR WHATEVER OR DUMPSTERS. THIS DRONE GETTING THE DRONE THERE TWO TO THREE MINUTES EARLIER CAN HELP US LOCATE THOSE FOLKS AND FIND THEM THROUGH OUR HEAT SEEKING CAPABILITY. IF THE DRONE, I DIDN'T SEE THEM MOVE. IT WILL ALSO REDUCE THE LIKELIHOODS OF PURSUITS FOR US AS WELL. 
          SOMETIMES THE VEHICLE WILL LEAVE. WE'LL HAVE A GENERAL DESCRIPTION, WHITE MALE AND A BLACK PICKUP TRUCK. IF WE GET THERE QUICKLY, THAT'S USEFUL. 
          BUT IF WE GET THERE AND THEY'RE LONG GONE, THAT'S NOT VERY GOOD FOR US. 
          HOWEVER, IF WE CAN GET THAT PICTURE'S FACE, IF WE CAN GET THAT PERSON'S FACE AND A TAG, THEIR LICENSE TAG, THEN THERE'S A GOOD POSSIBILITY WE WOULD BE ABLE TO APPREHEND THAT PERSON. 
          DFW FLIGHT OPERATIONS AS I SAID, THESE WILL BE OPERATED BY OUR CIVILIAN PROFESSIONAL STAFF OUT OF OUR REAL TIME INFORMATION CENTER. THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT THEY HAVE TO GET A 107 CERTIFICATION THAT THEY CAN DO ONLINE. THE REAL TRAINING THOUGH WILL COME FROM THE SOFTWARE THAT WE GET WITH THE DRONE FROM THE VENDOR. ONCE WE GET THAT AND THEN THEY'LL TRAIN WITH OUR CURRENT DRONE OPERATORS AS WELL. SO OUR INITIAL DOCK INSTALLATIONS, BASICALLY WHAT WE NEED IS 220 POWER AND WI FI CAPABILITY. SO THESE ARE THE LOCATIONS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW TO GET US ALMOST 100% COVERAGE FOR OUR CITY. BUT THESE ARE TENTATIVE LOCATIONS. WE ARE WORKING WITH CALEB'S FACILITIES TEAM RIGHT NOW. I UNDERSTAND THE PLANO AQUATIC CENTER MAYBE GOING BACK TO PISD, BUT WE'RE CONFIDENT WE'LL BE ABLE TO FIND LOCATIONS TO MEET OUR NEEDS. THIS IS THE PARTICULAR DRONE THAT WE WOULD BE USING. THIS IS A FOREIGN MADE DRONE. THIS DRONE IS A STOPGAP MEASURE FOR US THAT MOTOROLA HAS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT IS A FOREIGN MADE DRONE. WE DO WANT TO MOVE TO US DRONES BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY THAT WILL MEET OUR CAPABILITIES RIGHT NOW. SO OUR PLAN IS IN ABOUT 24 TO 30 MONTHS WE'LL BE TRANSITIONING TO ANOTHER DRONE THAT I WILL SHOW YOU HERE IN A MINUTE. EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A FOREIGN MADE DRONE AND THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT INFORMATION GETTING BACK TO THE CHINESE OR WHATEVER, THE DRONE IS JUST THE HARDWARE. 
          WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT ABOUT IT IS THE SOFTWARE, THE CAPE SOFTWARE AND THAT'S A MOTOROLA PRODUCT. SO THE SOFTWARE FOR THIS DRONE DRONE IS MADE IN THE US AND THIS IS THE COVERAGE WE WOULD GET FROM THOSE FOUR LOCATIONS THAT I SHOWED YOU. 
          SO IT WOULDN'T COVER ALL OF THE CITY BUT WE WOULD GET MOST OF THE IMPORTANT AREAS. AND THEN THIS IS WHAT THE DRONES WOULD LOOK LIKE MOUNTED UP ON TOP OF THE BUILDINGS, ABOUT 125 POUND DOCK STATION. 
          AND THAT'S JUST AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THEY MIGHT LOOK LIKE. 
          AND THEN THIS IS THE DRONE THAT WE WANT TO MOVE TO, LIKE I SAID, IN ABOUT TWO YEARS, ABOUT 18 MONTHS TO TWO YEARS. THIS COMPANY, BRINK, IS IN SEATTLE. IT'S A U.S. COMPANY. 
          WE'VE LOOKED AT THIS DRONE. IT CAN STAY UP TWICE AS LONG. 
          IT'S MUCH BIGGER, IT'S GOT PAYLOAD CAPABILITY. 
          VERY, VERY IMPRESSIVE DRONE. 
          AND THIS IS THE ONE THAT WE WANT TO MOVE TO. AND WHAT'S ALSO KEY ABOUT THIS DRONE IS BECAUSE IT CAN STAY UP FOR SO LONG, IT'S FASTER. WE, WE WOULD NOT NEED FOUR DOCS. 
          WE WOULD ONLY NEED TWO DOCKS TO RUN THIS ONE. IT ALSO HAS THE ABILITY TO CARRY DIFFERENT PAYLOADS. 
          WE CAN PUT MEDICINE, WE CAN PUT TELEPHONES AND DROP THOSE OFF. 
          MAYBE WE WOULDN'T NEED THAT MUCH ON THE LAW ENFORCEMENT SIDE LIKE THE MILITARY, BUT WHEN YOU NEED IT, YOU NEED IT. AND THEN THIS IS THE COVERAGE THOSE TWO DRONES WOULD GIVE US. ONE OF THOSE LOCATIONS IS THE NEW POLICE HEADQUARTERS. THAT MAY NOT BE BUILT, OBVIOUSLY BY THE TIME THIS COMES IN. IF THE FIRE STATION IS NOT A VIABLE OPTION, WE'LL HAVE TO FIND ANOTHER PLACE. BUT WITH TWO DRONES THOUGH, USING THAT PARK AND ALMA LOCATION AND THE CARPENTER REC 
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CENTER, WE CAN PRETTY MUCH COVER THE CITY WITH THIS MORE ADVANCED DRONE THAT WE WILL GET LATER ON AS A PART OF THIS CONTRACT. ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. 
          THANK YOU, CHIEF COUNCILMEMBER LAVINE. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. CHIEF, I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS. AND I KNOW THAT WHEN I RAN FOR COUNCIL, ONE OF THE KEY THINGS THAT I RAN ON WAS THE IDEA OF USING TECHNOLOGY TO POLICE SMARTER. AND THAT WAS A COST EFFECTIVE WAY VERSUS BLANKETING THE CITY WITH MORE OFFICERS, ALTHOUGH MORE OFFICERS ARE ALWAYS HELPFUL. SO I'M, I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS. BUT I WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING. YOU WOULD ONLY LAUNCH THESE DRONES WHEN NEEDED FOR EMERGENCIES, POLICE REQUIREMENTS. THERE WOULD NOT BE AN ONGOING NEIGHBORHOOD SURVEILLANCE PROGRAM OR, OR ANY OTHER INTRUSIVE PROGRAM IN USE OF THESE DRONES. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? ABSOLUTELY NOT. WE WOULD NOT BE USING THEM FOR THAT. STATE LAW ALREADY PROHIBITS US FROM USING DRONES IN THAT SURVEILLANCE, A MANNER LIKE THAT. AND IN FACT, AS THESE DRONES ARE LAUNCHED, THEY'RE GOING TO BE JUST DRIVING STRAIGHT TO WHATEVER THE SCENE IS. 
          WE'RE GOING TO. THAT'S WHEN THE CAMERAS WILL COME ON. SO THERE WOULD BE NO SURVEILLANCE OF ANYBODY. AND THEN, AND THE DRONES FOR THESE, IF, IF, IF IT IS CONNECTED TO A CRIMINAL CASE, SOMETIMES WE MAY SAVE IT FOR, FOR TRAINING OR MAYBE FOR MARKETING PURPOSES ON OUR WEBSITE. 
          BUT OTHER THAN THAT, WE DON'T SAVE DRONE FOOTAGE. 
          IF THERE IS NO IF, THERE'S NO REASON TO SAVE IT. 
          SO. 
          OKAY, AND, AND ALSO I'M, I'M HAPPY TO SEE THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING THE MOVE AWAY FROM THE. THE DJI TECHNOLOGY. 
          THEY DO SEEM TO HAVE SOME OF THE BEST DRONES AT THIS TIME. 
          BUT AS YOU ARE AWARE, THE GOVERNMENT SEEMS TO BE MOVING IN THE DIRECTION OF RESTRICTING SOME OF THEIR NEW PRODUCTS AND ACTIVITIES. 
          SO THERE'S ALWAYS THE POSSIBILITY THAT SUPPORT COULD BECOME AN ISSUE. 
          WELL, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE HAVE TO MOVE TO AN AMERICAN DRONE. THE FAA HAS PUT RESTRICTIONS ON THEM BEING ABLE TO DEVELOP FURTHER, BUT RIGHT NOW THERE ARE STILL THE BEST DRONES OUT THERE. STILL. SO. 
          AND I THINK THEY WILL BE FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS. SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONCERNS WITH THAT. BUT WE REALIZE, THOUGH, UNLESS THERE IS A CHANGE AT THE FAA ON THOSE RESTRICTIONS, YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE TO AN AMERICAN DRONE. AND I THINK THIS ONE THAT MOTOROLA HAS PARTNERED WITH IS THE BEST SOLUTION. 
          WE'VE GONE OUT TO SEATTLE, WE'VE LOOKED AT IT, AND WE'RE SATISFIED AND CONFIDENT THAT IT'LL MEET OUR NEEDS. WE ALSO WORK WITH THIS COMPANY ALREADY FOR OUR SWAT. DRONES ARE MADE BY THIS COMPANY AND WE'RE VERY SATISFIED WITH THOSE. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MAYOR. 
          CHIEF, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. 
          YOU MENTIONED THAT THEY DETECT HEAT, THESE DRONES, BUT ARE THEY CAPABLE OF DETECTING GAS LEAKS OR GAS IMAGING ON THESE DRONES? GAS LEAKS, YEP. AS FAR AS I KNOW, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY. ANY KIND OF SNIFFING CAPABILITY AT ALL. 
          OKAY. 
          I WAS JUST CHECKING ONLINE BECAUSE APPARENTLY THERE'S AVAILABILITY IN THOSE TYPE OF DRONES. SO I WASN'T SURE IF WE'RE APPROACHING THOSE TYPE OF DRONES OR NOT. 
          BUT CONVERSATION FOR LATER ON, MAYBE THAT CAN SAVE SOME LIVES IN THE EVENT THAT THERE'S A GAS LEAK IN THAT AREA. THE OTHER ONE WAS DURING BAD WEATHER DAYS. YOU SHOWED THAT THESE DRONES WOULD BE ON THE ROOFTOP. ARE THEY GOING TO BE REMOVED IN THE EVENT THAT THERE'S A HAIL STORM OR ARE THEY GOING TO BE PREVENTED FROM DAMAGE HAPPENING TO THEM? NO, THEY'RE. THEY'RE GOING TO BE IN DOCKS THAT ARE WEATHERPROOF. 
          OKAY, WONDERFUL. AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOCKED AND SECURE. SO NOBODY JUMPS INTO A ROOFTOP AND VANDALIZE THE DRONES. 
          I'M SORRY, SOMEONE WOULD BE DOING. 
          WILL THEY BE LOCKED AND SECURED SO THAT WAY NOBODY CAN GO TO A ROOFTOP AND VANDALIZE THE DRONES? YEAH, THE DRONES WOULD BE LOCKED DOWN ON TOP, BUT THE DRONES ARE GOING TO BE ON TOP OF CITY FACILITIES, SO I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT ANYBODY CLIMBING UP ON TOP OF THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS. 
          BRING IT OUT THERE. JUST DON'T WANT THERE TO BE A REPORT. I MEAN, YOU NEVER KNOW. PEOPLE ARE DARING. SO THERE'S JUST OTHER QUESTIONS. SO. SO OTHER THAN THAT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANYONE ELSE? COUNCILMEMBER KEHR. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. CHIEF, WE'RE NOT THE FIRST ONES TO EXPLORE THIS. THESE HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR QUITE SOME TIME. CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT THE SUCCESSES AND WHAT THE OTHER CITIES HAVE EXPERIENCED BY HAVING THIS DFR PROGRAM? YOU KNOW, WE HAD A SUSPECT THAT MY SURVEILLANCE TEAM WAS FOLLOWING FOR A HOMICIDE, QUITE FRANKLY, AND FOLLOWED THEM INTO ANOTHER CITY WHO HAS HAD THIS. AND THEN THIS PERSON STOPPED AND GOT OUT OF THEIR CAR TO SHOOT AT OUR OFFICERS. OUR OFFICERS HAD TO RETURN FIRE BACK. THEIR DRONE WAS OUT THERE SO FAST AND CAUGHT EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, AND WITHOUT THAT DRONE, THEN THESE OFFICERS HAD ON BODY CAMERAS AND ALL OF THAT. 
          BUT HAVING THAT DRONE GET OUT THERE THAT QUICKLY, THAT'S REALLY WHAT CONVINCED ME THAT, YEAH, WE NEED TO START MOVING IN THIS DIRECTION. AND YOU SEE SOME OF THE THINGS. THE SCENARIO THAT HAPPENED IN 
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SEATTLE, ONE OF THOSE SUSPECTS GOT AWAY. IF YOU HAD A DRONE THERE OVERHEAD WHILE YOU'RE WAITING FOR THOSE OTHER OFFICERS TO RESPOND, THEY PROBABLY COULD MAYBE COULD HAVE FOLLOWED THAT SUSPECT TO KNOW WHERE HE WENT. THOSE ARE THE KIND OF SCENARIOS I THINK THAT THIS CAN HELP YOU WITH. 
          VERY GOOD. IT SEEMS VERY CLEAR TO ME THIS IS VERY BENEFICIAL TO THE CITY IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO DO PROPER POLICING AND ALSO REALLY IMPORTANT TO PROTECTING OUR POLICE AS THEY'RE AT THEIR GOING TO A SCENE OR THAT SORT OF THING. 
          ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, CHIEF. 
          APPRECIATE IT. I THINK WE HAVE SOME SPEAKERS ON THIS. 
          WE DO. THE FIRST ONE IS PATRICK PILOT. 
          HI, MY NAME IS PATRICK PILOT. 
          I'M. 
          I'VE LIVED IN PLANO MY WHOLE LIFE. I'M 15 YEARS OF AGE. 
          WHAT I'M REALLY TALKING ABOUT ISN'T REALLY ON THE AGENDA ABOUT THE POLICE DRONES. THERE ARE THESE CAMERAS CALLED FLOCK SECURITY CAMERAS THAT HAVE AI TECHNOLOGY IN THEM. 
          WELL, LIKE, WE CAN'T. WE GOT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT'S SPECIFIC ON THE AGENDA ITEM. 
          BECAUSE WHEN I SIGNED UP, I DIDN'T KNOW. AND THEN I GOT A CALL FROM. 
          YOU'RE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS, TOO. 
          YOU CAN. 
          YOU CAN SPEAK IN PUBLIC COMMENTS, BUT NOT. 
          NOT RIGHT NOW. 
          HIS CONVERSATION ABOUT THE DRONES. I WAS WONDERING, HOW WOULD WE KNOW THAT Y'. 
          ALL. 
          WELL, YOU CAN'T. 
          WE'RE NOT JUST. 
          JUST A COMMENT FROM YOU. I MEAN, IF YOU WANT TO ASK THE CHIEF A QUESTION AFTER THE MEETING, THAT'S FINE. IF IT'S UP TO CHIEF, IF. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO I'D LIKE TO SIT BACK IN MY SEAT, WAIT FOR THE PUBLIC CONCERN. 
          YES. ALL RIGHT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          AND YOU. YOU'RE SIGNED UP FOR THAT, CORRECT? YEAH. 
          YES. 
          SO YOU CAN. YOU CAN BRING THAT UP THEN. OKAY. 
          KYLE MCGEEHAN. 
          GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS KYLE MCGEEHAN. I'M A MEMBER OF DSA NORTH TEXAS AND REVOLUTIONARY FRONT. DFW COUNCILMEMBERS, I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT ROBOCOP WAS A TERRIFIC FILM. 
          ITS VISION OF A NEAR FUTURE DETROIT RUINED BY TECHNOLOGICAL HUBRIS AND CORPORATIZED LAW ENFORCEMENT REMAINS UNDENIABLY COMPELLING. 
          BUT THE THING IS, THAT MOVIE WAS A SATIRE. A WARNING EVEN. 
          SO, WHY DOES PLANO PD WANT US TO TREAT IT LIKE AN INSTRUCTION MANUAL? IT CAN'T BE BECAUSE OF THE CRIME STATS. OUR MAJOR CRIME RATE SITS AT 16.10 PER 01,000 RESIDENTS, ONE OF THE LOWEST IN THE NATION. 
          IN FACT, ACCORDING TO A 2023 REPORT FROM SMARTASSET, PLANO RANKS AS THE FIFTH SAFEST CITY IN THE U.S. SO WHY DO WE NEED TO SPEND OVER A MILLION DOLLARS ON YET ANOTHER THREAT TO OUR PRIVACY? ARE ALL THE FLOCK CAMERAS SCANNING EVERYBODY'S LICENSE PLATES NOT ENOUGH? HOW LARGE DOES PLANO'S SURVEILLANCE STATE NEED TO GET BEFORE WE START PRIORITIZING THE FOURTH AMENDMENT? OF COURSE, PLANO PD CLAIMS THAT THIS PROGRAM WON'T HARM OUR RIGHTS. THEY SAY THERE WILL BE RESTRICTIONS LIMITING THE SCOPE OF DRONE DEPLOYMENTS AND RULES PREVENTING THESE DEVICES FROM MONITORING CITIZENS WITHOUT REASONABLE SUSPICION. 
          GEEZ, WHEN YOU PUT IT THAT WAY. 
          I ALMOST WANT TO LOVE BIG BROTHER MYSELF. 
          BUT I RECEIVED A NICKEL FOR EVERY TIME POLICE DEPARTMENTS IN THIS COUNTRY EXPLOITED LOOPHOLES TO EVADE ACCOUNTABILITY. THEN I'D ACTUALLY HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO INFLUENCE POLICY AROUND HERE. ASK YOURSELVES, COUNCILMEMBERS, DO YOU KNOW EXACTLY HOW THE FOOTAGE CAPTURED BY THESE MACHINES WILL BE USED? ARE THERE SUFFICIENT OVERSIGHT MECHANISMS TO SAFEGUARD AGAINST WARRANTLESS SPYING? ALSO, HAVE YOU ASSESSED THE RISK OF DATA HACKS FROM ILL INTENTIONED THIRD PARTIES? AND FINALLY, ONCE YOU GIVE THE COPS THE TOOLS AND PERMISSION TO FLY DRONES OUTSIDE OF THE PILOT'S LINE OF SIGHT, HOW LONG UNTIL MISSION CREEP SETS IN? TODAY'S FIRST RESPONSE. ROBOTS COULD SOON BE CONVERTED INTO EVERLASTING EYES IN THE SKY. UNLESS THIS COUNCIL HAS THOROUGH, PERSUASIVE ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS, IT SHOULD REFUSE TO AUTHORIZE THIS PROGRAM. 
          OTHERWISE, IT'LL BE JEOPARDIZING OUR BASIC FREEDOMS AT A TIME WHEN THEY CANNOT BE MORE VITAL. IN AN AMERICA WHERE MERE DISSENT IS INCREASINGLY BRANDED AS TERRORISM, THE RIGHTS OF CITIZENS HAVE NEVER BEEN MORE PRECIOUS. 
          SERVE YOUR CONSTITUENTS WITH THIS ONE. 
          COUNCILMEMBERS. VOTE NO. 
          THE NEXT SPEAKER IS SHIRLEY LAWSON. HI, MY NAME IS SHIRLEY LAWSON. I WAS HERE BEFORE TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE. 
          PART OF MY CONCERN WAS WITH FLOCK CAMERAS, AND YOU ALL SAID WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT FLOCK RIGHT NOW. RIGHT NOW. BUT THE FLOCK CAMERAS ARE THE ONES THAT YOU USE AND THE AI IN THE FLOCK CAMERAS TO TELL YOU WHERE THE DRONES ARE SUPPOSED TO GO, ARE THEY NOT? 
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YOU USE THE INFORMATION FROM THE CAMERAS, THE LICENSE PLATE READERS, YOU USE THAT INFORMATION, DO YOU NOT? AM I WRONG ABOUT THAT? APPARENTLY NOBODY CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION. 
          OKAY, WELL, IN ANY EVENT, THAT'S THE WAY I READ IT, IS THAT THE INFORMATION FROM THE CAMERAS, FROM THE FLAT CAMERAS IS USED FOR THE DRONES TO WEAR THE SEND TO DRONES. SO IT'S NOT REALLY IRRELEVANT THE IDEA OF THE CAMERAS. 
          BUT WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT AGAIN LATER. 
          IN THE MEANTIME, MY CONCERN, MUCH LIKE KYLE'S, IS THE VIOLATION THAT THIS IS POTENTIALLY VIOLATING OUR RIGHTS, OUR FIRST, FOURTH, FIFTH, AND FOURTEENTH AMENDMENT RIGHTS. DRONES HAVE BEEN USED TO SPY ON PROTESTS, PERFECTLY LEGAL PROTESTS. AND THEN AFTERWARDS, PEOPLE ARE COMING HOME AND FINDING THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT IS SHOWING UP AT THEIR DOORS, THE FBI IN WASHINGTON SHOWING UP AT PEOPLE'S DOORS, ASKING THEM WHAT THEY WERE DOING AT THAT PROTESTER EARLIER. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT THAT SOUNDS AN AWFUL LOT TO ME LIKE A VIOLATION OF MY FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS OR THOSE PEOPLE'S FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS. WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE AI DATA CENTERS AND WE TALKED ABOUT FLAT CAMERAS BEFORE, I REALLY GET THE SENSE THAT A LOT OF YOUR LEARNING CAME AFTER THE APPROVAL OF THESE PROJECTS. 
          AT LEAST I KNOW THAT'S THE CASE WITH THE AI. THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TOLD. A LOT OF THE LEARNING ABOUT THE PROBLEMS WITH THESE. 
          WITH THESE SURVEILLANCE SYSTEMS. AM I BORING YOU, HON? I'M SORRY. RATHER NICE SIGH. I SAW THAT. AND I ALSO NOTICED IN SOMEBODY WHEN THEY HEARD DSA. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU'RE TALKING TO, BUT THIS IS OUR MEETING, SO IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY, PLEASE. 
          YEAH, I WOULD RATHER NOT BE SIGHED AT WHILE I'M TALKING, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT. IT'S KIND OF RUDE. I WOULDN'T DO IT TO YOU. 
          KEEP GOING. 
          OKAY. THESE CAMERAS AND POTENTIALLY THE DRONES THAT GO WITH THEM, IT'S ENOUGH THAT YOU CAN TRACK PEOPLE WITH THE FLAT CAMERAS, BUT NOW YOU CAN SEND A DRONE TO OBSERVE THEM, TO WATCH THEM COMING IN AND OUT OF THEIR HOMES OR AT THE PROTESTS OR WHATEVER. 
          AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS ARE THINKING CLEARLY ABOUT PEOPLE'S RIGHTS BEFORE YOU MAKE THIS DECISION THIS TIME INSTEAD OF AFTERWARDS. THANK YOU. 
          CHIEF DRAIN, CAN YOU DESCRIBE THE COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH SYSTEM AND HOW THAT ACTUALLY WORKS? YES, SIR. WHEN SOMEONE CALLS IN A 911 CALL, IT GOES INTO OUR DISPATCH CENTER. 
          THEY'VE GOT BASICALLY TWO GROUPS OF EMPLOYEES IN THERE. 
          SOME ARE CALL TAKERS. THEY TAKE THE CALL, AND THEN THEY TRANSFER IT OVER TO A DISPATCHER WHO IS THE ONE THAT'S COMMUNICATING. 
          COMMUNICATING WITH THE OFFICERS ON THE GROUND. WE AT THE PD, NOT COUNTING THE ONES THAT WE GENERATE OURSELVES, WE DO ABOUT 120 OR SO CALLS FOR SERVICE A YEAR. 
          AND FOR CLARITY, THAT'S THE PROCESS THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE USED FOR THE DRONE AS FIRST RESPONDERS, PRIMARILY. 
          YES, SIR. 
          OKAY, NO MORE. NO MORE SPEAKERS. ALL RIGHT, THANKS, CHIEF. THIS IS. THIS ISN'T A PUBLIC HEARING, SO I. OH, EXCUSE ME, COUNCILMEMBER 2 ARE WE. 
          ARE WE CLOSE? SO. OKAY, WELL, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS BEFORE I MOVE TO APPROVE THIS. I WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION ANYWAY. SO THIS IS CLOSE TO HOME BECAUSE I AM A CRIMINAL DEFENSE LAWYER. 
          AND NOW BEFORE, WHEN WE WERE IN COURT DEFENDING OUR CLIENTS WITHOUT BODY CAM, IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT BECAUSE WE'RE BASICALLY AT THE RELIANCE OF WHAT'S REMEMBERED BY THE POLICE OFFICER OR EYEWITNESSES. 
          BUT WITH THE INCREASE IN TECHNOLOGY AND THE ABILITY TO SEE ALMOST DURING THE TIME OF WHATEVER IS OCCURRING, THAT OUR GROUP OF COLLEAGUES IN DEFENSE WORLD ARE ABLE TO, A LOT OF TIMES, BE ABLE TO EITHER NEGOTIATE DISMISSAL, NEGOTIATE A REDUCTION TO THE OFFENSE THAT'S ALLEGEDLY CHARGED BY THE POLICE OFFICER, OR TO COME TO SOME SORT OF RESOLUTION TO A PLEA BECAUSE IT'S SO OBVIOUS THAT IT HAS HAPPENED. AND I THINK THOSE ARE IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT HELPS THE CITY SAVE MONEY IN TRYING EVERY CASE 
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IN COURT, IN TRIAL, BECAUSE SOME THINGS COULD BE SO VAGUE AND SOME THINGS ARE SO AMBIGUOUS THAT EVERYTHING HAS TO GO TO A JURY TRIAL. AND I DON'T KNOW IF MOST PEOPLE KNOW, BUT JURY TRIALS DO COST A LOT OF MONEY FOR THE COUNTY AS WELL AS FOR THE CITY. OUR OFFICERS WILL HAVE TO ATTEND. THEY HAVE TO SIT THERE, AND WE HAVE TO PAY FOR IT. SO, WITH CLARITY, IT REALLY DOES HELP IN RESOLVING SOME OF THE ISSUES WITH COST AS WELL AS SOME OF THE TRUTH THAT NEEDS TO COME OUT IN THE CITY OF EXCELLENCE. WE NEED TO KEEP UP WITH THE TECHNOLOGY THAT'S OUT THERE. WHEN CHIEF DRANG SAID THAT SOME OTHER CITY ACTUALLY HAVE THIS TECHNOLOGY BEFORE WE DO, I'M ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT SHOCKED, BECAUSE I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT CITY OF PLANO HAS THE MOST ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY. 
          WE HAVE THE BEST RESOURCES, AND WE HAVE THE BEST POLICE OFFICERS AND FIRST RESPONDERS. 
          SO I'M REALLY SHOCKED THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY BEHIND IN TECHNOLOGY WITH REGARD TO KEEPING UP WITH THE JONESES WITH REGARD TO WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS GOING TO INVADE IN OUR PRIVACY. 
          ACTUALLY, EVERYTHING IS INVADING OUR PRIVACY NOWADAYS. 
          BUT I WOULD RATHER HAVE CRIME PREVENTION HELPING AT FIRST RESPONDING THAN HAVING A HACKER GOING INTO MY PRIVACY AND NOT BE ABLE TO ASSIST THOSE PEOPLE WHO MAY BE BECAUSE OF THAT FIRST, SECOND RESPONSE. BE ABLE TO GET THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IN AN INCIDENT IN WHICH THE POLICE IS INVESTIGATING. 
          WITH THAT SAID, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS IMPORTANT TO PROTECT OUR FOURTH AMENDMENT RIGHT, WHICH IS THE SEARCH AND SEIZURE. I UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          AND ALSO OUR DUE PROCESS RIGHT, WHICH IS UNDER THE 14TH AMENDMENT. AND THAT IS UP TO US IN MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THE BEST TRAINED POLICE OFFICER TO ENSURE THAT THAT IS PROTECTED. IT IS NOT TO PREVENT TECHNOLOGY FROM COMING INTO CITY OF PLANO BECAUSE EVERYBODY ELSE HAS GOT IT. AND IF WE DON'T KEEP UP, OUR POLICE AND OUR PREVENTION OF CRIME WILL DETERIORATE. AND WE CAN'T HAVE THAT IN THE CITY OF PLANO BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THAT FAMILY MEMBERS ARE FIRST, OUR RESIDENTS ARE FIRST, OUR NEIGHBORS ARE FIRST, SAFETY IS FIRST. AND WITHOUT HAVING THE BEST RESOURCES FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDER, WE CAN'T STAY THE CITY OF EXCELLENCE. SO WITH THAT SAID, I LIKE TO MOVE TO APPROVE BODY CAMS. DON'T FOLLOW YOUR HOME. 
          COUNCILMEMBER LAVINE, DID YOU HAVE IT? YES. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I MENTIONED THAT TECHNOLOGY ALLOWS US TO ENHANCE OUR POLICE FORCE BY BEING SMARTER. AND THE MONEY WE SPEND ON A PROGRAM LIKE THIS NOT ONLY BECOMES AN ELEMENT OF PREVENTION, BUT IT'S A DETERRENT. BECAUSE ONCE CRIMINALS KNOW, AS HAS OFTEN BEEN SAID, IF YOU'RE GOING TO COMMIT A CRIME, DON'T DO IT IN PLANO BECAUSE THIS IS A PLACE WHERE YOU WILL GET CAUGHT. SO I THINK THIS IS A GREAT ENHANCEMENT. I THINK THAT THIS IS AN IMPORTANT STEP. AS COUNCILMAN TEW, COUNCILWOMAN TU SAID, IT IS A WAY FOR US TO KEEP, KEEP UP WITH THE TECHNOLOGIES. AND I THINK THAT THAT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. ALSO, I ASKED ABOUT SURVEILLANCE. I THINK IT'S VERY KEY THAT THESE WOULD BE LAUNCHED ONLY IN THE CASE OF NEED TIME OF IN FLIGHT FOR THESE DRONES, ANYWHERE FROM 20 MINUTES TO, TO AN HOUR, DEPENDING ON THE MODEL. AND THE BATTERY PREVENTS IT FROM BEING A TRUE NEIGHBORHOOD SURVEILLANCE TYPE PROGRAM. SO I DON'T HAVE THAT FEAR OF BEING SURVEILLED FROM THE SKY. SO I SUPPORT THIS PROGRAM AND I SECOND THE MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          MAYOR PRO TEM, DO YOU HAVE. 
          YES, JUST A COMMENT HERE. 
          THIS IS A FIRST RESPONDER 
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PROGRAM. I THINK IN MY THREE YEARS ON COUNCIL NOW, THE TOUGHEST DAY I HAVE IS WHEN WE GO AND GO TO THE FALLEN POLICEMAN'S MEMORIAL. WE GO THERE AND WE SEE AND HONOR THOSE THAT GAVE THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE TO PROTECT US. AND THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN A VERY HARD CEREMONY FOR US TO ATTEND. AND I'M, I'M WILLING TO SPEND ALMOST ANYTHING TO KEEP OUR FIRST RESPONDERS SAFE. 
          THEY THROW THEMSELVES IN HARM'S WAY TO PROTECT US. 
          AND WE ARE THE SAFEST CITY IN TEXAS, AND WE WANT TO STAY THAT WAY. AND THIS PROGRAM FOR FIVE YEARS FOR THIS 1.4 MILLION, IS PITTANCE COMPARED TO THE LOSS OF A POLICE OFFICER. AND SO, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT SURVEILLANCE. I AM HOPING UNDER CHIEF DRAIN THAT WE WON'T HAVE THAT. BUT I CAN GUARANTEE THAT WE WILL KEEP OUR EYES ON THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS NOT VIOLATED. I, TOO, WORRY ABOUT SURVEILLANCE IN MY BACKYARD. AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT THE FBI. THOSE ARE ISSUES THAT WE'RE SEEING COMING OUT OF D.C. BUT WE'RE PLANO, THE CITY OF EXCELLENCE, AND WE'D LIKE TO TAKE CARE OF OUR CITIZENS. AND SO, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M IN SYNC WITH COUNCILWOMAN, TOO, AND ALSO COUNCILMAN LAVINE ON THAT. AND WE'LL HOLD WHOLEHEARTEDLY APPROVE THIS IF IT'S A WAY THAT I COULD PROTECT OUR POLICE OFFICERS. 
          SO I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER FOUR. 
          PLEASE VOTE. MOTION PASSES 8 
          [COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST]
TO 0. THANK YOU. COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST. 
          COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST. 
          THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING IS TO ALLOW UP TO THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER, WITH 30 TOTAL MINUTES ON ITEMS OF INTEREST OR CONCERN AND NOT ON ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE CURRENT AGENDA. THE COUNCIL MAY NOT DISCUSS THESE ITEMS, BUT MAY RESPOND WITH FACTUAL OR POLICY INFORMATION. 
          THE COUNCIL MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA. AND WE DO HAVE A FEW SPEAKERS THIS EVENING. THE FIRST ONE IS PATRICK PILOT. 
          MY NAME IS PATRICK PILOT. I ALREADY SAID THIS. WHAT THOSE TWO FINE AMERICAN CITIZENS SAID ABOUT THIS FLOCK COMPANY. 
          THERE ARE OVER 50 OF THESE FLOCK CAMERAS IN PLANO AS WE SPEAK. RIGHT NOW, THERE ARE NEARLY 4,000 IN THE DFW AREA. FLOCK IS A PRIVATELY OWNED COMPANY. THEY ARE USING AI TECHNOLOGY TO BASICALLY MASS SURVEILLANCE US. 
          THIS IS AN UNCONSTITUTIONAL AGAINST OUR FOURTH AMENDMENT RIGHT. HOW DO Y' ALL FEEL ABOUT JUST BEING WASHED EVERYWHERE WE GO? I KNOW THAT THERE'S CAMERAS EVERYWHERE, LIKE THE PHONES ARE WATCHING US. BUT FLOCK IS PRIVATELY OWNED, AND I'M NOT GONNA SAY ANY NAMES BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GET ANY CONTROVERSY OF ME. A DOZEN POLICE OFFICERS HAVE BEEN ARRESTED FOR USING FLOCK FOR UNWARRANTED PURCHASES. 
          PURPOSES LIKE STALKING ROMANTIC PARTNERS, EX WIVES, EX GIRLFRIENDS. A WOMAN HAD AN ABORTION IN ANOTHER COUNTRY, AND THE POLICE USED 83,000 OF THESE CAMERAS TO STALK HER DOWN ACROSS THE WHOLE COUNTRY. SHE WENT TO A WHOLE OTHER COUNTRY TO DO SOMETHING WITH HER OWN BODY. AND OUR COUNTRY IS TRYING TO CONTROL WHAT WE DO IN SURVEILLANCE. IF FLOCK IS. 
          WE GOT TOLD IT WAS FOR LICENSE PLATES SURVEILLANCE TO READ AND CATCH CRIMES. 
          THERE IS GUNSHOT DETECTION NOISES IN THESE CAMERAS. THEY ARE NOW LEARNING FOR HUMAN VOICES. HOW DOES THAT EVEN HELP IF A CITIZEN IS JUST WALKING, INNOCENT CITIZEN WALKING DOWN THE STREET IS UNDER SURVEILLANCE AND GETTING THEIR FACE SCANNED BY THESE CAMERAS. 
          I WOULD BE LYING IF I WASN'T ABSOLUTELY TERRIFIED OF HOW I'M GOING TO RAISE MY KIDS. AND IN A COUNTRY THAT IS WATCHING US. 
          THIS IS A MASS SURVEILLANCE OPERATION AND I JUST. IF I CAN'T CHANGE ANYTHING NOW, I HOPE TO DEFINE YOUNG PEOPLE OF MY FRIENDS AND FAMILY THAT ARE WATCHING ON THIS LIVE STREAM. Y' ALL CAN SPARK A CHANGE AND DO WHAT I AM DOING. 
          USE YOUR VOICE. YOUNG PEOPLE ARE NOT TALKED ABOUT ENOUGH. 
          I'M PROBABLY THE ONLY YOUNG >>N THIS BUILDING RIGHT NOW AND CLEARLY I DIDN'T GET THE DRESS CODE. 
          >> BUT IT'S JUST CRAZY HOW WE ARE GETTING MASS SURVEILLANCED. 
          HOW DO Y' ALL FEEL THAT LIKE COPS, LIKE HE SAID, THE CHIEF. HOW DO WE KNOW THAT HE'S NOT GONNA USE OR LIKE 
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OTHER POLICE OFFICERS THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY TRAINED FOR THIS? NOT GONNA USE THIS FOR UNWARRANTED PURPOSES. AND SINCE THIS IS A PRIVATE OWNED COMPANY, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS DATA IS GOING. AND ESPECIALLY WITH A BUNCH OF YOUNG BRIGHT MINDS THAT ARE COMING NOW DAYS OF AGE, IT IS REALLY, REALLY EASY TO HACK INTO THESE CAMERAS AND SEE WHAT THEY ARE AROUND. THREE YEARS AGO, THREE, FOUR YEARS AGO, I WAS SEXUALLY ASSAULTED BY AN ADULT. THERE WAS AROUND FOUR MONTHS OF EVIDENCE THAT WAS INTO THE FBI AND THEY DROPPED THE CASE BECAUSE THEY SAID THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE. YET THERE WAS FOUR MONTHS. HOW WOULD WE KNOW THAT THESE CAMERAS ARE GOING TO HELP? I AM ONLY 15. I WAS 13 AND 12 AT THIS TIME. I WAS SEXUALLY ASSAULTED BY A GROWN ASS MAN. AND THERE WAS SO MUCH EVIDENCE. THIS HAPPENED FOR FOUR MONTHS. FOUR MONTHS AND THE FBI AND PLANO POLICE DID NOTHING. 
          I'M TRYING TO BE SENSITIVE, BUT YOUR TIME'S UP. 
          OKAY, NEXT. 
          KYLE MCGEE. 
          HELLO AGAIN. IN 2023, FORT WORTH DEBUTED A BRAND NEW OFFICIAL SLOGAN, THE UNEXPECTED CITY. LITTLE OVER THREE YEARS LATER, THEY WOULD LIVE UP TO THAT MONIKER WHEN THE MAJORITY OF THEIR CITY COUNCILMEMBERS CAME OUT THIS MONTH IN FAVOR OF A DATA CENTER MORATORIUM. 
          MEANWHILE, IN THE CITY OF EXCELLENCE, OUR LEADERS ATTITUDE TOWARDS DATA CENTERS HAS PROVEN THUS FAR LESS UNEXPECTED. IN FACT, IT'S BEEN PAINFULLY PREDICTABLE. LET'S GO DOWN THE LIST, SHALL WE? DESPITE RECEIVING DOZENS OF LETTERS CALLING FOR A MORATORIUM, NOT A SINGLE MEMBER OF THIS BODY HAS COME OUT YET AGAINST BIG TECH. DESPITE RECEIVING A PETITION THAT'S GARNERED ALMOST 200 SIGNATURES SO FAR AND COUNTING. NOBODY ON THIS COUNCIL HAS STOOD UP FOR THEIR CONSTITUENTS CONCERNS. AND DESPITE THE THREAT POSED TO HUDSON HEIGHTS BY THE HYPERSCALE DATA CENTER BEING CONSTRUCTED NEAR THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, NONE OF YOU HAVE PROPOSED REGULATIONS TO MITIGATE THAT FACILITY'S INEVITABLE IMPACT ON RESIDENTIAL LIFE. DO YOU KNOW HOW WORRIED THE DENIZENS OF THAT COMMUNITY ARE ABOUT WHAT AWAITS THEM COME OCTOBER WHEN THAT 72 MEGAWATT BEHEMOTH IS SET TO GO LIVE? OUR COALITION IS WELL AWARE. 
          SINCE WE'VE STARTED KNOCKING ON DOORS AND HAVING CONVERSATIONS, MAYBE YOU SHOULD JOIN US ON OUR NEXT CANVASSING DATE. 
          ANYWAY, COUNCILMEMBERS, I HOPE YOU CAN TELL THAT OUR CAMPAIGN IS JUST GETTING STARTED AND THAT IT WON'T GO AWAY ANYTIME SOON. NO MATTER HOW MUCH WE HEAR ABOUT LAND SCARCITY. 
          EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT PLANO IS LARGELY DEVELOPED AND BUILT OUT, BUT THAT HAS BEEN THE CASE FOR AT LEAST 15 YEARS. YET ROUGHLY A DOZEN DATA CENTERS, COLOCATION, ENTERPRISE AND HYPERSCALE HAVE EMERGED IN THE CITY SINCE THEN. I RECOMMEND COMING UP WITH A BETTER TALKING POINT, MAYBE BY ASKING ONE OF THE CHATBOTS. THESE FACILITIES ARE POWERING, BUT YOU MIGHT WANT TO GET TO THAT SOON THOUGH, WHILE OUR GRID IS STILL UP AND RUNNING. 
          JUST LAST WEEK, A 10 MINUTE OUTAGE STRUCK THE EASTERN HALF OF THE UNITED STATES DUE TO ELECTRICAL FLUCTUATIONS THAT EXPERTS ATTRIBUTED TO VIRGINIA'S DATA CENTER ALLEY. 
          THE ALARM BELLS ARE RINGING, COUNCILMEMBERS. WILL YOU HEED THEIR WARNING? YOU SHOULD START LISTENING NOW BEFORE THE NOISE POLLUTION FROM THE HUDSON HEIGHTS FACILITY DROWNS THEM OUT. 
          ALSO, COUNCILMEMBER 2 IF YOU WANT TO KEEP UP WITH THE JONESES AND, AND STAY AHEAD OF THE CURVE, THEN LET'S GO AHEAD AND FOLLOW FORT WORTH'S EXAMPLE AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DATA CENTER MORATORIUM. THANK YOU. 
          THE NEXT SPEAKER IS JASON PAYNE. 
          JASON PAYNE, CRYSTAL CURRY. 
          GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. GET A GOOD EDUCATION BECAUSE NO ONE CAN TAKE THAT FROM YOU. THAT'S WHAT MY PARENTS AND MY EDUCATORS USED TO TELL ME. 
          WELL, THAT IS NO LONGER THE CASE WITH ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE. 
          AND YOU KNOW, A LOT OF MY COLLEAGUES IN THE TECHNOLOGY INDUSTRY, YOU KNOW, WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS ON THE VARIOUS USE CASES OF WHAT ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE DOES. AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT. 
          WHAT IS IT? HOW DOES IT BENEFIT US AS CITIZENS AND AS A SOCIETY? WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE USE CASES WHERE IT IS GOOD AND THERE ARE USE CASES WHERE IT'S 
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NOT. AND IN MY PARTICULAR INSTANCE, IT'S NOT. AND WHAT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO IS TO SPEAK TO THAT WHEN I SHOW UP HERE AT COUNCIL, AND HOPEFULLY SOMEONE IN THESE SEATS OR YOU KNOW, WILL HEAR ABOUT MY STORY AND HELP ME. I KNOW SEVERAL PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT THE AI DATA CENTERS AND ALL OF THE BIG BEHEMOTH THAT ARE GOING TO. I TALKED ABOUT THIS ACTUALLY ON MY PODCAST, LIKE TWO YEARS AGO, BEFORE THEY EVEN STARTED BUILDING THESE DATA CENTERS. BUT AI IS, IT JUST NEEDS LEGISLATION. AND MY GOAL IS ULTIMATELY TO BE ABLE TO IMPACT LEGISLATION. ONE OF THE THINGS I DO WANT TO SAY THOUGH, BEFORE IS I FEEL LIKE WE'RE KIND OF NORMALIZING THIS. WE'RE GOING FORWARD WITH THESE BIG DATA CENTERS AND MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS STUFF. 
          LIKE THIS IS NORMAL. WHAT'S IMPACTED MY LIFE, I'VE SHARED WITH YOU GUYS IN MY CITIZEN IMPACT OVERVIEW DOCUMENT IS FACTUAL DIFFERENT. DEVELOPERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PROFESSIONAL TECHNOLOGY COMMUNITY HAVE VERIFIED, VALIDATED AND CORROBORATED THAT STORY. THE LLM MODELS, LARGE LANGUAGE MODELS, ARE AVAILABLE, THEY'RE PUBLIC AND PEOPLE CAN GET THEM AND USE THEM. MY DATA HAS BECOME PUBLIC. SO IT'S, IT'S A DIFFICULT THING. I WOULD JUST SAY THE LAST THING THAT'S BEEN IMPACTING ME LATELY IS I WENT TO LOG ON TO MY LAPTOP AND THIS ISN'T EVEN RELATED TO THE OTHER ISSUES THAT I'VE ALREADY PUT IN THE DOCUMENT, BUT I WENT TO LOG ON TO MY LAPTOP AND IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S COMPLETELY TAKEN OVER BY A DIFFERENT SERVER. IT'S NOT EVEN, THEY'RE NOT EVEN CONNECTING TO MY LAPTOP BY INTERNET CONNECTION. IT'S COMPLETELY TAKEN OVER BY A DIFFERENT DATABASE. SO ALL OF MY DATA, LIKE THEY JUST LOG IN WITH THESE TOOLS THAT ARE MUCH MORE SIGNIFICANTLY ADVANCED THAN I HAVE ACCESS TO THAT I CAN'T EVEN HAVE RIGHTS TO MY LAPTOP ANYMORE. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S COMPLETELY UNNERVING AND IT'S, IT'S NOT FUNNY. 
          BUT THAT'S MY LIFE. SO I'M CONTINUALLY SHARING THESE ISSUES THAT OCCUR TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND TO HOPEFULLY GET SOMEONE TO HELP ME WITH MY SITUATION. 
          AND HOPEFULLY YOU'LL SEE WITH THE COMBINATION OF NOT JUST MY SITUATION, BUT THE SENTIMENTS THAT THE REST OF THE AUDIENCE IS TALKING ABOUT WITH REGARDS TO ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE WILL HELP. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SORRY. THANKS. 
          SHIRLEY LAWSON. 
          HELLO AGAIN. I JUST WANT TO KIND OF WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON. WHAT WAS YOUR NAME? PATRICK. PATRICK, ON WHAT PATRICK, THIS YOUNG MAN WAS SAYING, HE MENTIONED THAT THERE HAVE BEEN 12 ARRESTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY OF POLICE OFFICERS USING THIS TO FIND THEIR EX WIVES OR THEIR EX GIRLFRIEND GIRLFRIENDS OR STALK PEOPLE AROUND THERE. TWO OF THOSE WERE HERE IN TEXAS, IN CASE YOU WERE WONDERING. 
          ONE OF THEM WAS IN JUST RECENTLY. 
          MS. LAWSON, WOULD YOU PUT YOUR MIC. 
          THE OTHER ONE IN PASADENA. 
          WOULD YOU PUT YOUR MIC CLOSER TO YOU? SURE, YEAH. 
          AS I WAS SAYING, TWO OF THOSE POLICE OFFICERS WERE RIGHT HERE IN TEXAS. ONE IN BAYTOWN, ONE PASADENA, TEXAS. 
          THE PROBLEM IS NOT JUST ABOUT FINDING YOUR EX GIRLFRIENDS EITHER THOUGH, BECAUSE ALSO HERE IN TEXAS, WHICH HE MENTIONED, JOHNSON COUNTY, TEXAS SHERIFF QUERIED THE FLOCK SYSTEMS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, QUERIED 83,000 DIFFERENT PLATES ACROSS SIX DIFFERENT STATES IN ORDER TO TRACK A WOMAN THAT THEY THOUGHT HAD HAD AN ABORTION. SHE HAD LEFT THE STATE. AFTERWARDS, THEY WENT TWO OF THESE STATES, AT LEAST TWO OF THESE STATES ABORTION IS LEGAL. AND IN MOST OF THESE STATES THERE ARE CITIES BUT THAT HAVE ORDINANCES THAT SAY YOU CAN'T USE ANY OF OUR TECHNOLOGY TO FIND OTHERWISE LAW ABIDING IMMIGRANTS, BUT THEY USE IT FOR THAT ANYWAY. AND THE WOMAN WHO SUPPOSEDLY HAD AN ILLEGAL ABORTION TURNED OUT THE EVIDENCE THEY HAD WAS A MENSTRUAL BLOOD CLOT. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OR HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS WERE WASTED BY THE JOHNSON COUNTY TEXAS SHERIFF'S OFFICE, BUT THIS STUFF CANNOT HAPPEN. 
          AND I KNOW YOU DON'T THINK IT CAN HAPPEN IN PLANO BECAUSE PLANO'S THE CITY OF EXCELLENCE AND YOU CAN ABSOLUTELY TRUST ALL YOUR POLICE OFFICERS. 
          BUT I'LL BET MONEY THE PEOPLE IN JOHNSON COUNTY THOUGHT THE SAME THING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THE NEXT SPEAKER IS PRAPTI SRIVASTAVA. 
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GOOD EVENING HONORABLE MAYOR AND THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL. I'M PRAPTI SRIVASTAVA AND I'M PART OF HINDUSWAM SAVAKSONG AND I'M ONE OF THE VOLUNTEERS OF PLANO BRANCH OF HSS. IT IS AN HONOR TO BE HERE AS WE CELEBRATE AN EXTRAORDINARY MILESTONE, AMERICA'S 250TH ANNIVERSARY. 
          AS HINDU AMERICANS WHO PROUDLY CALL PLANO HOME, THIS CELEBRATION HOLDS A SPECIAL PLACE IN OUR HEARTS. PLANO IS KNOWN FOR A STRONG SENSE OF COMMUNITY, OUTSTANDING SCHOOLS, BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOODS AND A CULTURE OF SERVICE AND VOLUNTEERISM. 
          PEOPLE FROM DIVERSE BACKGROUNDS HAVE COME TOGETHER TO MAKE THIS CITY ONE OF THE BEST PLACES TO LIVE. 
          AND THE HINDU AMERICAN COMMUNITY IS GRATEFUL TO CONTRIBUTE. 
          THROUGH CIVIC ENGAGEMENT, CHARITABLE SERVICE, CULTURAL PROGRAMS AND SUPPORT FOR OUR NEIGHBORS, OUR HERITAGE TEACHES US THE TIMELESS PRINCIPLE OF VASUDEVA KODUMBAKAM. THE WORLD IS ONE FAMILY. WHEN OUR FAMILIES CAME TO AMERICA, WE BROUGHT WITH US VALUES OF RESPECT, SERVICE, FAMILY AND HARMONY. 
          AMERICA IN TURN GAVE US THE FREEDOM TO PRACTICE OUR FAITH, PRESERVE OUR TRADITIONS AND FULLY PARTICIPATE IN THE LIFE OF THIS GREAT NATION. THAT OPPORTUNITY IS SOMETHING WE DEEPLY CHERISH. THIS 250TH ANNIVERSARY HAS INSPIRED AN UNPRECEDENTED CELEBRATION. 
          ACROSS THE DALLAS FORT WORTH METROPLEX. MORE THAN 35 HINDU TEMPLES CAME TOGETHER TO PROUDLY COMMEMORATE AMERICA'S 250 YEARS OF INDEPENDENCE BY DISPLAYING SPECIAL ANNIVERSARY BANNERS AT THEIR TEMPLES. IT WAS A POWERFUL EXPRESSION OF UNITY AND GRATITUDE, A WAY FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO HONOR THIS HISTORIC MILESTONE WHILE REAFFIRMING OUR SHARED COMMITMENT TO THE IDEALS OF LIBERTY, DEMOCRACY, AND CIVIC RESPONSIBILITY THAT DEFINE AMERICA. THE SIGHT OF THESE BANNERS ACROSS DOZENS OF TEMPLES WAS MORE THAN A CELEBRATION. IT REFLECTED THE DEEP APPRECIATION OF HINDU AMERICANS FOR THE FREEDOMS THIS COUNTRY PROVIDES AND OUR DESIRE TO STAND TOGETHER WITH FELLOW AMERICANS IN MARKING THIS HISTORIC OCCASION. AS WE CELEBRATE 250 YEARS OF INDEPENDENCE, LET US CONTINUE STRENGTHENING THE BONDS THAT UNITE US. OUR DIVERSITY IS NOT A CHALLENGE TO OVERCOME. IT IS ONE OF AMERICA'S GREATEST STRENGTHS. 
          BY EMBRACING BOTH OUR CULTURAL HERITAGE AND OUR SHARED AMERICAN IDENTITY, WE HELP BUILD AN EVEN STRONGER, MORE WELCOMING AND MORE VIBRANT PLANO. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE THESE THOUGHTS ON BEHALF OF THE HINDU AMERICAN COMMUNITY. 
          CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR NATION ON THIS HISTORIC MILESTONE AND HAPPY 250TH ANNIVERSARY OF AMERICAN INDEPENDENCE. GOD BLESS PLANO AND GOD BLESS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THE LAST SPEAKER IS JEREMY MATTHEWS. 
          OKAY. 
          GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JEREMY MATTHEWS, AND I'VE LIVED IN PLANO FOR THE LAST 18 YEARS. 
          I'M HERE TONIGHT. 
          IN THE PAST, I'VE EMAILED YOU ALL ABOUT, I GUESS, MY OPPOSITION TO THE AGREEMENTS THAT THE CITY'S MADE WITH THE DALLAS STARS. AND I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW THAT UP BECAUSE I ATTENDED THE OPEN HOUSE THAT YOU GUYS HAD A FEW WEEKS AGO, AND I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS HAVING THAT. AND I WAS ABLE TO SPEAK WITH CONGRESSMAN COUNCILMAN KEHR HORN LAVINE AND DEPUTY CITY MANAGER DOUG MCDONALD, AND IT WAS ALL VERY INFORMATIVE, WELL INTENDED, WELL ATTENDED. 
          BUT I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP. 
          I DID FOLLOW UP. 
          SOMETHING THAT COUNCILMAN HORN REFERENCED WAS THE CITY OF ARLINGTON AND HOW IT'S WORKED OUT PRETTY WELL FOR ARLINGTON AND HOW THEY'VE, YOU KNOW, PAID OFF THEIR DEBTS, AT LEAST FOR, LIKE, THE COWBOY STADIUM. BUT THEY THEN THEY HAD A LITTLE DIFFERENT FUNDING MECHANISM. 
          MECHANISM. 
          THEY USE THE SALES TAX INCREASE TO FUND THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE STADIUMS. BUT SOME INTERESTING THINGS THAT I FOUND, JUST SOME FIGURES, IS THAT THE CITY OF ARLINGTON, FOR, LIKE, THE COWBOY STADIUM, THEY CONTRIBUTED 27% OF THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS FOR THAT STADIUM. AND FOR THE GLOBE LIFE FIELD, THE RECENT COVERED BASEBALL STADIUM, THE CITY CONTRIBUTED ABOUT 44% OF THAT CONSTRUCTION COST. 
          CONTRAST THAT WITH WHAT WE'RE AGREED TO, WHICH IS 70%, QUITE A BIT HIGHER. SO I THINK THAT'S NOT A GOOD THING, AND I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S SO HIGH. 
          SOME OTHER FIGURES. SO THE COWBOY STADIUM WAS BUILT FOR $1.9 BILLION, AND THE BASEBALL PARK WAS, LIKE 1.6 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 1.4. BUT THEY ARE ALSO MUCH BIGGER STADIUMS. THEY SEAT 80,000 AND 40,000 SEATS, YOU KNOW, RESPECTIVELY. WHEREAS THE STARS ARENA, IT'S COSTING A BILLION DOLLARS AND IT ONLY SEATS 18,000. SO I WAS LIKE, 
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SO IT LEADS ME IN MY NEXT THING. AND BOTH OF THOSE, THAT WAS ALL VOTER APPROVED. 
          AND THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE I HAVE SOME QUALMS ABOUT WITH THIS BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE VOTING ON THE VENUE TAXES, BUT THEY MAY ONLY BE A MINORITY OF THE FUNDING FOR THESE ARENAS. THE MAJORITY IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE THE TOURS. SO TO ME, IN A WAY, THIS IS SORT OF A, THIS PROCESS IS GOING TO BE KIND OF A BACKDOOR WAY OF APPROVING THIS BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO BE APPROVING HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN BONDS IN BORROWING. AND NORMALLY VOTERS, YOU KNOW, VOTE TO VOTE ON THAT. YOU KNOW, WE GET A CHANCE TO SAY, BECAUSE THAT'S A TON OF MONEY. 
          20 SECONDS. 
          OKAY. AND SO THE LAST THING I WANT TO SAY IS, YEAH, SO, AND SO WHY IS THIS ARENA SO EXPENSIVE? A BILLION DOLLARS. 
          AND IT'S BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE STARS WANT. THEY WANT SOMETHING WHERE THEY CAN SELL, YOU KNOW, FOR PREMIUM SEATS. 
          IT'S CATERING TO THE WEALTHY. 
          IT'S GOING TO PRICE OUT A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO CAN'T AFFORD THOSE TICKETS. AND I THINK WHAT WE'RE CONTRIBUTING TO IS SOME WELFARE FOR THE WEALTHY BECAUSE THIS IS, YOU KNOW, HIGHER PRICED TICKETS. A LOT OF PEOPLE CAN'T MAKE THOSE GAMES. 
          AND I THINK A CITY TAXPAYER SHOULDN'T BE FUNDING THAT SORT OF STUFF. WE HAVE POLICE DEPARTMENTS, FIRE DEPARTMENTS, ROADS, CITY, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. ONE THING ON THE FEEDBACK ON THE DATA CENTERS IN PLANO. 
          THE CITY'S DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS REQUIRE ADEQUATE UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS AND CITY PLANNERS REVIEW DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS FOR COMPLIANCE WITH CITY STANDARDS. THE CITY COUNCIL APPOINTED A CITIZEN COMMITTEE TO ASSIST WITH THE REVIEW AND UPDATE OF DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, INCLUDING STANDARDS RELATED TO DATA CENTERS. SO I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW WE ARE IN A REVIEW OF THOSE. 
          WITH THAT BEING SAID, THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS. WE ARE ADJOURNED.
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