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[CALL TO ORDER]
WE'LL BEGIN TONIGHT'S REGULAR MEETING WITH THE INVOCATION LED BY CHRIS FLUITT OF REDEMPTION CHURCH AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.LORD, WE PRAY, LORD, FOR OUR WONDERFUL CITY. WE PRAY BLESSINGS OVER PLANO, TEXAS.
LORD, WE ASK YOU, LORD, TO BE WITH US TONIGHT.
LORD, LEAD US GOD, TO HAVE WISDOM AND TO HAVE PATIENCE.
HELP US TO BE THE CITY THAT YOU WANT US TO BE.
GOD HELP US TO DO ALL OF THIS IN YOUR NAME. IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY.
AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE TEXAS.
ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. BE SEATED.
HELLO. THERE WE ARE. SO IT'S OUR HONOR TO PRESENT THE PROCLAMATION FOR JUNE
[Proclamation: June 19 is Juneteenth Day in Plano commemorating the end of slavery in the United States.]
19TH, WHICH IS JUNETEENTH DAY, COMMEMORATING THE END OF SLAVERY IN THE UNITED STATES.I'D LIKE TO CALL FORWARD DOLLY THOMAS, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF AFRICAN AMERICAN MUSEUM.
DONNA STIMPSON, AFRICAN AMERICAN MUSEUM. JASON MORGAN, AFRICAN AMERICAN MUSEUM.
DENISE HAMILTON, JUNETEENTH COMMITTEE AND TERRANCE WRIGHT JUNETEENTH COMMITTEE.
HI, HOW ARE YOU? THANK YOU. SO WHEREAS ON JANUARY 1ST, 1863, PRESIDENT ABRAHAM LINCOLN ISSUED THE FINAL EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION, WHICH DECLARED, AMONG OTHER THINGS, THAT ALL PERSONS HELD AS SLAVES WITHIN THE REBEL STATES ARE AND HENCEFORWARD SHALL BE FREE. JUNETEENTH, ALSO KNOWN AS FREEDOM DAY, JUBILEE DAY, LIBERATION DAY, AND EMANCIPATION DAY, IS A HOLIDAY THAT CELEBRATES THE EMANCIPATION OF THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN ENSLAVED IN OUR NATION.
SOON THEREAFTER, DRAKE WAS JOINED BY HIS FELLOW FARMER AND FRIEND, MOSE STIMPSON IN FOUNDING THE DOUGLASS COMMUNITY, ONE OF THE OLDEST NEIGHBORHOODS IN PLANO. AND FOR MANY YEARS, THE DOUGLASS COMMUNITY OPERATED AS ITS OWN SELF-SUSTAINING COMMUNITY WITH RETAIL STORES, FUNERAL HOMES, HOTEL, DUE TO ONGOING SEGREGATION, DRAKE AND STIMPSON ARE HONORED AS THE PATRIARCHS OF THIS COMMUNITY, WITH SIMPSON DRAKE PARK NAMED FOR THEM. WHEREAS, DIRECT DESCENDANTS OF ANDY DRAKE AND MOSE STIMPSON CONTINUE TO EMBRACE THEIR HERITAGE BY MEMORIALIZING PAST ACHIEVEMENTS AND BY THEIR RESOLVE TO INSPIRE OTHERS IN THEIR MISSION TO EDUCATE ALL OF PLANO, COLLIN COUNTY, AND THE ENTIRE DFW METROPLEX, AND KNOWING JUNETEENTH IS A CELEBRATION OF FREEDOM.
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NOW THEREFORE, I, JOHN MUNS, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PLANO, TEXAS, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM FRIDAY, JUNE 19TH, 2026 AS JUNETEENTH DAY IN PLANO AND THE STATE OF TEXAS, AND DO HEREBY ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO JOIN ME IN THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL IN HONORING THE MANY CONTRIBUTIONS OF THE DOUGLASS COMMUNITY IN THE CITY OF EXCELLENCE AS WE LOOK TO CELEBRATE THE BLESSING OF FREEDOM THIS DAY AND EVERY DAY. CONGRATULATIONS.THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
OKAY, LET'S MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. THE CONSENT AGENDA.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
THE CONSENT AGENDA WILL BE ACTED UPON IN ONE MOTION AND CONTAINS ITEMS WHICH ARE ROUTINE AND TYPICALLY NONCONTROVERSIAL.ITEMS MAY BE REMOVED FROM THIS AGENDA FOR INDIVIDUAL DISCUSSION BY A COUNCIL MEMBER, THE CITY MANAGER, ANY CITIZEN. THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL ESTABLISH TIME LIMITS BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKER REQUESTS.
I SECOND THAT. OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION. AND SECOND, TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM E, PLEASE VOTE. MOTION PASSES 8 TO 0.
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To approve an expenditure in the amount of $2,550,000 for the purchase of real property located at 1410 14th Street and 1412 14th Street and described as Lots 2, 3, 4A, and 4B Block C Oglesby Place Addition from Do-Mo Joint Venture; and authorizing the City Manager to execute all necessary documents.
]1410 14TH STREET AND 1412 14TH STREET, DESCRIBED AS LOTS TWO, THREE, FOUR A AND FOUR B BLOCK C, OGLESBY PLACE FROM DO-MO JOINT VENTURES AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS.WE HAVE WE HAVE ONE. SPEAKER ONE. SPEAKER YES.
BECAUSE OF MY INEXPERIENCE AT PUBLIC SPEAKING.
HAVE ALSO BEEN ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY THROUGH LEADERSHIP.
PLANO CITY. HOUSE, PLANO SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA, PLANO WEST ROTARY, CHRIST UNITED METHODIST CHURCH, AND YOUTH SPORTS. I AM A PARTNER IN DO-MO JOINT VENTURE, WHICH OWNS 1410 AND 1412 14TH STREET.
THIS WOULD ALLOW THE COUNCIL AND PLANO CITIZENS TIME TO FULLY UNDERSTAND THE PURPOSE OF THIS EXPENDITURE AND THE CONTROVERSIES, LEGAL AND OTHER ISSUES SURROUNDING IT. I WAS CONCERNED THAT THIS ITEM WAS PLACED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, DESPITE NOT BEING ROUTINE OR NON-CONTROVERSIAL, AND REQUESTED ITS REMOVAL SO THAT IT CAN RECEIVE THE DISCUSSION AND SCRUTINY IT DESERVES BEFORE ANY DECISION IS MADE. I HOPE YOU RECEIVED THE MATERIALS I SENT, INCLUDING A LETTER FROM MY ATTORNEY, WHICH RAISES QUESTIONS REGARDING AUTHORITY TO SELL THE PROPERTY, OUTLINES THE RIGHTS I MAY ASSERT IF NECESSARY, AND STATES THAT BASED ON THE INFORMATION CURRENTLY AVAILABLE, I DO NOT APPROVE OF THIS PROPOSED SALE.
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BEFORE MAKING A DECISION, I ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS.FIRST, THE AGENDA MEMO STATES THESE PROPERTIES ARE IDEAL FOR FUTURE DOWNTOWN REDEVELOPMENT.
WHAT SPECIFIC REDEVELOPMENT IS PLANNED FOR THESE PROPERTIES? WHAT ALTERNATIVES WERE CONSIDERED? WHAT IS THE TIMELINE? WHAT ARE THE INTERIM PLANS FOR THE PROPERTY AND WHY? PURCHASE RATHER THAN LEASE IF THE NEED IS TEMPORARY? SECOND, THE AGENDA MEMO STATED THE $2.55 MILLION PURCHASE PRICE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE 26 COLLIN COUNTY APPRAISAL.
HOW WAS THE 2.55 MILLION VALUATION DETERMINED, AND WHY DID THE IMPROVEMENTS VALUE FOR 1410 14TH STREET INCREASE DRAMATICALLY IN ONE YEAR? AN INCREASE OF ALMOST TEN TIMES FROM APPROXIMATELY 123,000 IN 25 TO MORE THAN 01,000,000 IN 26.
AFTER YEARS OF DECLINING VALUATIONS FOR A 54 YEAR OLD BUILDING.
THIRD, WHY. 30 SECONDS. THIRD, WHY THE URGENCY TO COMPLETE THIS TRANSACTION AFTER ONLY ABOUT A MONTH, GIVEN THE ONGOING CONTROVERSIES AND LEGAL ISSUES? WHY SHOULD THE CITY INVOLVE ITSELF IN AS WELL AS POSSIBLY ADD TO AND OR IMPACT A DISPUTE AMONG GENERAL PARTNERS BEFORE THOSE ISSUES ARE RESOLVED? THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATION OF MY REQUEST TO POSTPONE THE VOTE TO OBTAIN ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND INVESTIGATE OTHER ALTERNATIVES.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.
THERE WE GO. MAYOR PRO TEM. GO AHEAD.
IS IT WORKING? LET'S TRY THAT.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEM E AS IT WAS PRESENTED.
MAYOR, I SECOND IT. SO I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO APPROVE ITEM E.
PLEASE VOTE. MOTION PASSES 8 TO 0.
NEXT ITEM. ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.
[(1) Public Hearing and consideration of an Ordinance to designate a geographic area within the corporate limits of the City as a Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone pursuant to Chapter 311 of the Texas Tax Code, to be known as Reinvestment Zone Number Six, City of Plano, Texas; describing the boundaries of the zone; creating a board of directors for the zone and appointing members of the board; establishing a Tax Increment Fund (TIRZ No. 6 Fund) for the zone; containing findings related to the creation of the zone; providing a date for the termination of the zone; providing that the zone take effect immediately upon passage of the ordinance; providing a severability clause; and providing an effective date.]
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. APPLICANTS ARE LIMITED TO 15 MINUTES PRESENTATION TIME WITH A FIVE MINUTE REBUTTAL IF NEEDED.THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY AMEND THESE TIMES AS DEEMED NECESSARY.
NON PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL PERMIT PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR ITEMS ON THE DURAN.
EXCUSE ME ON THE AGENDA NOT POSTED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL ESTABLISH TIME LIMITS BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKER REQUESTS, LENGTH OF THE AGENDA, AND TO INSURE MEETING EFFICIENCY AND MAY INCLUDE A CUMULATIVE TIME LIMIT.
ITEM NUMBER ONE. PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE TO DESIGNATE A GEOGRAPHIC AREA WITHIN THE CORPORATE LIMITS OF THE CITY AS A TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 311 OF THE TEXAS TAX CODE TO BE KNOWN AS REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER SIX.
CITY OF PLANO, TEXAS. DESCRIBING THE BOUNDARIES OF THE ZONE.
CREATING A BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THE ZONE AND APPOINTING MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
PROVIDING A DATE FOR THE TERMINATION OF THE ZONE, PROVIDING THAT THAT ZONE TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY UPON PASSAGE OF THE ORDINANCE, PROVIDING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
AGAIN, TAX INCREMENT FINANCING. THIS IS THE METHOD, LISA, DECIDED THE CODE OF 311.
THE IMPORTANT THING ON THIS SLIDE IS TWO THINGS. ONE, THIS IS NOT OUR FIRST ONE.
THIS IS ACTUALLY WOULD BE THE FIFTH ACTIVE TIRZ THAT WE HAVE.
AND THEN THIS TOOL DOES NOT IMPACT THE CURRENT PROPERTY TAX RATE FOR OUR CITIZENS.
IT'S JUST NOT IT'S NOT ONE OF THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
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FUND, WHICH IS WHICH IS WITHIN THE CAPTION THAT YOU, LISA READ.THE DISTRICT ITSELF IS PRETTY LARGE. IT'S OVER ALMOST 900 ACRES.
IT IS ALL THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES ALONG THE TOLLWAY FROM GEORGE BUSH ALL THE WAY TO WINDHAVEN.
THE CURRENT VALUATIONS. THIS IS A 41 YEAR TIRZ.
WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS OUR CONTRIBUTION.
THIS IS THE PROPERTY TAX NUMBER AND THE SALES TAX NUMBER FROM WITHIN THE ZONES.
AND AGAIN, WE WILL CONTINUE TO COLLECT ABOUT $7 MILLION ON EACH OF THOSE THINGS AS TIME GOES ON.
AND THEN WE ALSO TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT PLAN, WHICH IS A DRAFT THAT YOU WOULD APPROVE AS PART OF THE ORDINANCE TONIGHT IS THESE ARE THE VALUES OF GROWTH. IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THIS, THE WILLOW BEND ITSELF WAS PROJECTED TO BE A $3 BILLION PROJECT.
BUT TONIGHT YOU HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. THEN YOU'LL CONSIDER THE [INAUDIBLE] CLOSE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AND AND WHICH ALSO ESTABLISHES A BOARD OF DIRECTORS, AND THE NEXT STEPS WOULD BE THEN TO MEET AND THEN GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THAT AS TIME GOES ON.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. ANY ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU.
YOU'RE WELCOME. I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? WE DO. WE HAVE SIX SPEAKERS THIS EVENING.
THE FIRST ONE IS SEAN MCKENNA, FOLLOWED BY DREW NICKERSON.
FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE ON, ON MULTIPLE ITEMS, PLEASE RESPECT THE TIME.
CUT IT DOWN FROM THE STANDARD FIVE MINUTES. SO YES.
WE'VE NEVER HAD A FIVE MINUTE. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS SEAN MCKENNA, AND I LIVE ON JEREMY'S LANDING IN CENTRAL PLANO.
LAST YEAR, THE CITY HAD A HIRING FREEZE AND IN DELAYED SPENDING DUE TO BUDGET CRISIS.
BY REQUIRING A LARGE AMOUNT OF THE PROPERTY TAX BASE TO ONLY GO TO SPECIFIC AREAS IN THE CITY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE, IT REDUCES THE FINANCIAL FLEXIBILITY THE CITY HAS TO DEAL WITH BUDGET ISSUES.
PRE ALLOCATING A LARGE AMOUNT OF THE TAX BASE TO SPECIFIC AREAS OF THE CITY MEANS THAT IN A BUDGET CRISIS, THE NON-TIRZ AREAS WILL HAVE REDUCED INVESTMENT, WHILE THE TIRZ AREAS ALWAYS GET THEIR FUNDING.
IT IS A FACT THAT THE TIRZ DISTRICTS SHIFT INVESTMENT FROM ONE PART OF THE CITY TO ANOTHER BY CREATING TIRZ DISTRICTS ONLY IN THE EXPRESSWAY CORRIDORS OF PLANO. YOU ARE ABANDONING CENTRAL PLANO TO HAVING POOR INFRASTRUCTURE AND DEVELOPMENT.
HOW Y'ALL DOING? GOOD. ARE YOU DREW? YES, SIR.
OH, OKAY. PLEASE GO AHEAD. WELL, MY NAME IS DREW NICKERSON.
AND I'M AN APPROVED VENDOR ON THE IRON WAVE STATE PROCUREMENT PLATFORM.
AND I'M ALSO A RESIDENT OF WEST PLANO AND CARROLLTON.
SO I'D LIKE TO BE CLEAR THAT I DON'T OPPOSE THE STARS ARENA.
AND IN ADDITION WITH THAT, WITH THE NEW ARENA, THERE'S GOING TO BE 20,000 EVENT NIGHT ATTENDANTS THAT GO ACROSS THOSE SAME ROADS IN PLANO. SO WITH THAT ALL OF THAT BLOCKAGE AND ALL THOSE PEOPLE IN THAT AREA, YOU CREATE A LARGE BOTTLENECK OF TRAFFIC AND ALL TYPES OF PEOPLE. AND BASED ENTIRELY ON FRA DATA, THE FEDERAL RAILROAD ADMINISTRATION, THERE'S ALREADY BEEN 18 INCIDENTS IN PLANO ON THIS AREA LEADING TO WILLOW BEND. SO THE LOI BEFORE YOU TONIGHT COMMITS THE CITY TO A NEW TRANSPORTATION INVESTMENT AROUND THE AREA AND EVERY FEDERAL DOLLAR TIED TO THIS INVESTMENT REQUIRES MACHINE VERIFIED, CONTINUOUSLY DOCUMENTED DATA THAT RECORDS.
SO CITIES THAT DON'T HAVE THIS ARE AT DISADVANTAGE.
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AND SO THE POINT THAT I'M TRYING TO COME TO IS THIS MATTERS DIRECTLY TO TAXPAYERS, BECAUSE THE FEDERAL GRANT DOLLARS CAN BE BUDGET RELIEF TO THIS NEW ARENA. AND SO IF WE WERE TO SHOW THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT THERE IS A TRAFFIC BOTTLENECK HERE, GIVE THEM THIS DATA THAT'S PUT ON PAPER AS OPPOSED TO ANYBODY ELSE, LIKE AN ENGINEERING COMPANY THAT WOULD COME OUT THERE AND SURVEY WITH CLIPBOARDS AND PIECES OF PAPER. WE CAN GIVE YOU HARD DATA THAT YOU CAN SEND TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.GIVE YOU A REAL BID FOR A FEDERAL GRANT THAT CAN BE WORTH 50 MILLION.
THANK YOU. RENEE ELKERSMA. FOLLOWED BY JENNIFER GROISMAN.
MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS RENEE ELKERSMA AND I LIVE IN CLIFF VIEW HERE IN PLANO.
I HAVE PROUDLY CALLED PLANO HOME FOR THE PAST 17 YEARS.
I WOULD FIRST LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I AM INVOLVED PROFESSIONALLY AND IN COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE AND LAND ACQUISITION, SO I DO UNDERSTAND THE VALUE OF THOUGHTFUL DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IT CAN BRING TO THE COMMUNITY.
AND I UNDERSTAND THE PERSPECTIVE OF DEVELOPERS, INVESTORS AS WELL AS LANDOWNERS.
FOR DECADES, WEST PLANO HAS BECOME ONE OF THE MOST DESIRABLE COMMUNITIES IN NORTH TEXAS BECAUSE OF ITS NEIGHBORHOODS, SCHOOLS, SAFETY, ACCESSIBILITY, AND QUALITY OF LIFE.
THE NEIGHBORHOODS SURROUNDING WILLOW BEND WERE BUILT AROUND THE EXPECTATION OF A SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL ENVIRONMENT, NOT A REGIONAL SPORTS AND ENTERTAINMENT VENUE.
THIS IS AN ARENA RESTAURANTS, BARS, RETAIL, CONCERTS, ENTERTAINMENT VENUES AND SPECIAL EVENTS DESIGNED TO ATTRACT VISITORS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE YEAR. IN EFFECT, WE ARE BEING ASKED TO REFORM WILLOW BEND FROM A RETAIL DESTINATION INTO A REGIONAL ENTERTAINMENT DESTINATION.
BEFORE TAKING THAT STEP, RESIDENTS DESERVE CLEAR ANSWERS.
ANYONE WHO REGULARLY DRIVES THROUGH THE TOLLWAY AND PARK, OR FOR PRESTON AND PARK FOR THAT MATTER, ALREADY KNOWS THESE CORRIDORS EXPERIENCED SIGNIFICANT CONGESTION.
RESIDENTS DESERVE TO KNOW WHAT TRAFFIC CONDITIONS WILL LOOK LIKE, NOT ONLY ON GAME NIGHTS, BUT ON CONCERT NIGHTS, WEEKENDS AND SPECIAL EVENTS.
WHAT INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE REQUIRED? HOW WILL NEARBY NEIGHBORHOODS BE AFFECTED AND ULTIMATELY, WHO WILL PAY FOR THOSE IMPROVEMENTS? I AM ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT EXISTING HOMEOWNERS.
MANY FAMILIES HAVE INVESTED A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THEIR LIFE SAVINGS INTO HOMES IN WEST PLANO.
FINALLY, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT TAXPAYER EXPOSURE.
IF SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC SUBSIDIES, TAX INCENTIVES, INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITMENTS, OR PUBLIC FINANCING MECHANISMS ARE BEING CONTEMPLATED, THEN PLANO RESIDENTS DESERVE COMPLETE TRANSPARENCY BEFORE ANY COMMITMENTS ARE MADE.
PRIVATE SPORTS FRANCHISES ARE VALUABLE BUSINESSES.
IF THIS PROJECT IS TRULY A STRONG INVESTMENT, THEN ITS SUCCESS SHOULD NOT DEPEND ON TRANSFERRING ANY POTENTIAL RISKS TO TO PASS TO PLANO TAXPAYERS. ONCE THIS DECISION IS MADE, IT CANNOT EASILY BE UNDONE.
THE BURDEN OF PROOF SHOULD NOT BE ON RESIDENTS TO DEMONSTRATE WHY THIS PROJECT MAY BE HARMFUL.
THE BURDEN SHOULD BE ON THE DEVELOPERS AND CITY TO DEMONSTRATE, WITH INDEPENDENT STUDIES AND TRANSPARENT ANALYSIS, THAT THIS PROJECT WILL IMPROVE PLANO'S FUTURE WITHOUT COMPROMISING THE QUALITY OF LIFE THAT HAS MADE WEST PLANO SUCH A DESIRABLE PLACE TO LIVE.
GROWTH IS INEVITABLE. CHANGE IS INEVITABLE, BUT NOT EVERY CHANGE IS AUTOMATICALLY PROGRESS.
HELLO, JENNIFER GROYSMAN. THIS IS 800 TO 900 ACRES IN WEST PLANO.
I LIVE RIGHT NEXT TO COMMUNICATIONS. THE CITY SHOULD ONLY MAKE THE MALL PROPERTY A TIRZ.
SIX YOU SAY THIS AREA NEEDS ESSENTIAL PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS. IT GOES ON TO SAY THE AREA IS PREDOMINANTLY OPEN OR UNDEVELOPED, AND THAT PRIVATE BUSINESSES WON'T DO THIS
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BY THEMSELVES. NONE OF THAT IS TRUE. HAVE YOU BEEN THERE? THIS AREA HAS ONLY TWO EMPTY PARCELS OF LAND LEFT.IT HAS TARGET, WALMART, COSTCO'S GROCERY STORES, MEDICAL OFFICES, BUSINESS OFFICES, UPSCALE RESTAURANTS, FAST FOOD SMALL STORES, HOME DEPOT CRAFT STORES, PORSCHE AND FERRARI DEALERSHIPS.
IT ALSO HAS A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS NOT OLD.
IT IS CROWDED ON THE WEEKENDS FOR DINNER AND HARD TO PARK YOUR CAR.
IT ACTUALLY IS OVERDEVELOPED. ACCORDING TO THE CITY'S OWN APPRAISALS PROPERTY VALUES ARE OVER $1.6 BILLION. THE SALES TAXES TOTAL OVER 7 MILLION.
I PAY SOME OF THOSE. THAT IS NOT AN ECONOMIC PROBLEM AREA.
HOWEVER, IN THE FINANCE PLAN, ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE TIRZ IS THE AREA MUST BE AN ECONOMIC OR SOCIAL LIABILITY AND A MENACE TO PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, MORALS OR WELFARE. IN ITS PRESENT CONDITION, THE ONLY AREA IN THE ZONE THAT IS A PROBLEM IS THE MALL. BUT I WOULD NOT SAY IT WAS A MENACE. ONLY THE MALL CAN QUALIFY AS A TIRZ LEGALLY. AND YOU WANT THIS ZONE FOR 41 YEARS? MOST OF YOU AND I WILL PROBABLY BE IN THE CEMETERY.
THE ONLY REASON THE CITY WANTS TO ZONE THIS IS SO IT CAN BUILD AN ARENA FOR A CORPORATION THAT IS WORTH $2 BILLION, OVER $2 BILLION, TAKING PROPERTY AND SALES TAXES OVER THE BASELINE, AWAY FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO PAY FOR FIRST RESPONDERS AND PUTTING IT INTO THE TIRZ FUND. YOUR OWN TERMS FINANCE PLAN LAYS IT OUT.
CLEARLY, THIS IS NOTHING MORE THAN A CORPORATE WELFARE SCHEME.
VOTE NO. [APPLAUSE] THE NEXT SPEAKER IS JOSEPH LINARES, FOLLOWED BY GARY CARRIE. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR THE BOARD. I AM SPEAKING FOR MYSELF AND SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS.
THESE PROJECTS WILL BRING ECONOMIC VITALITY AND GREAT AMENITIES TO PLANO.
WE ASK THAT THEY BE IMPLEMENTED THOUGHTFULLY WITH STRONG MAINTENANCE, CODE ENFORCEMENT, SECURITY AND SAFETY MEASURES TO COMPLEMENT OUR ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS. FIRST, PLEASE PRESERVE ALL THE LIVE, MATURE TREES IN THE SPACE AND MAKE MEANINGFUL GREEN SPACE. SECOND, WE URGE A COMPREHENSIVE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY WITH PREDICTIVE MODELING FOR A THREE MILE RADIUS.
THIS SHOULD HELP WITH TRAFFIC FLOWS DURING LARGE EVENTS.
OVERLAP. BUSY SERVICES AT PRESTONWOOD BAPTIST CHURCH, INCREASED DENSITY ON MIDWAY, PLANO PARKWAY, GEORGE BUSH TURNPIKE AND THE NORTH DALLAS TOLLWAY REQUIRE THIS STUDY.
WE ENCOURAGE CLOSE COORDINATION WITH THE NORTH DALLAS TOLL AUTHORITY AND TXDOT FUNDING AND UPGRADES, PLUS CARROLLTON AND OTHER NEIGHBORING CITIES.
THESE ARE VITAL STEPS FOR THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF OUR CHILDREN AND OUR ELDERLY RESIDENTS.
IN OUR HILLS OF PRESTONWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD, WE'RE FACING SIDEWALK NEEDS REPLACEMENTS, REPAIR ROADS, AND. WE'RE ASKING FOR STOP SIGNS AT POSSIBLE SHORT TRAFFIC LIGHT ON LA COSTA AND PLANO PARKWAY.
SPEED MONITORING SIGNS ON ON LA COSTA MIDWAY AND PLANO PARKWAY.
ENGINEERING REVIEWS AND REDUCED SPEED LIMITS WHERE REQUIRED.
MEASURES, MEASURES TO PREVENT DANGEROUS U-TURNS AND LIMIT CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC, SOLUTIONS FOR PARKING SPILLOVER DURING LARGE EVENTS. WE ALSO ASKED FOR IMPROVED TRAFFIC FLOW, TRAFFIC FLOW PICKUPS.
LINES AT BARKSDALE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, WHICH BACKS UP QUITE OFTEN ON MIDWAY TO PROTECT OUR CHILDREN.
THIRD, PROVIDE ADEQUATE POLICING AND INCREASED PATROLS.
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WE URGE CITY TO SEEK FEDERAL DHS FBI FUNDING TO PREVENT POSSIBLE TERRORIST THREATS.WE FURTHER REQUEST SAFE, WELL-LIT SIDEWALKS AND DEDICATED BIKE PATHS CONNECTING THE ARBOR HILLS NATURE PRESERVE AND PLANO'S, AND SUPPORTED IN ALIGNMENT WITH PLANO'S BICYCLE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, INCLUDING WIDER SIDEWALKS, MEDIAN TREE AND IRRIGATION IMPROVEMENTS. WORK WITH ONCORE TO BURY BUSY BURY POWER LINES THAT ARE ON PLANO PARKWAY.
IN ADDITION, PRIORITIES IN THE CITY PLAN, SUCH AS MODERN MULTI-MODAL TRANSIT HUB SHOULD BE PLACED FURTHER MR. PLANNERS. YOU GOT IT. YOUR TIME IS UP. BUT I APPRECIATE IT.
HELLO, I AM GARY CURI. I LIVE AT 5613 CHAMPIONS DRIVE IN WILLOW BEND.
AND GOOD EVENING, MAYOR MUNS, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF.
GOOD TO SEE YOU GUYS. I CAME TONIGHT TO SPEAK ON THE DALLAS STARS PROJECT AND IF APPROVED, THE EFFECT ON OUR CITY AND OUR COMMUNITY. WHILE SERVING AS A P & Z COMMISSIONER.
I WAS PROUD OF THE WORK WE DID WITH CENTENNIAL IN PLANNING THE EVOLUTION OF THE WILLOW BEND MALL.
IT PROVIDED A GREAT OUTCOME FOR THE AREA AND THE CITY.
NOVEL RETAIL, UNIQUE RESTAURANTS, INVITING COMMON AREAS AND MUCH NEEDED HOUSING.
IN FACT, I ATTENDED GAMES WHEN THEY WERE THE NORTH STARS AT THE MET IN MINNESOTA.
THAT WAS A GREAT PLACE TO WATCH HOCKEY. THEN THEY CAME TO REUNION ARENA NEXT TO AMERICAN AIRLINES.
AND NOW THEY WANT TO COME TO PLANO. AND THAT'S ONE OF MY CONCERNS.
SPORTS TEAMS CONSTANTLY MOVE. WHEN I LIVED IN PHOENIX, I USED TO WATCH THE ARIZONA COYOTES, WHO ARE NOW IN UTAH. WE NOW HAVE THE VEGAS RAIDERS.
THE RAMS HAVE MOVED CONSTANTLY. NOW THE BEARS ARE LEAVING CHICAGO.
IF APPROVED, I HAVE CONCERNS ON THE EFFECT OF THE NEW STAR STADIUM ON THE SURROUNDING AREA.
ON GAME AND EVENT NIGHTS WE'LL HAVE INCREASED TRAFFIC ON A TOLLWAY THAT'S ALREADY OVERBURDENED.
THE DEMOLITION AND CONSTRUCTION WILL BE A GIANT UNDERTAKING, CREATING DISTURBANCE FOR THE YEARS IT'S BEING BUILT, ESPECIALLY TO THE HOMES AROUND IT. THE SPECIAL ZONE WILL DRAIN MUCH NEEDED TAX DOLLARS FROM PLANO.
AND PLEASE REMEMBER, COUNCIL, YOU JUST RAISED OUR TAXES.
THE SITE'S PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND RESEARCH SHOWS THAT SPORTING STADIUMS BRING INCREASED CRIME TO CITIES, ESPECIALLY IN A ONE KILOMETER AREA, POSSIBLY AS MUCH AS 10%.
AND IF WE BUILD THIS STADIUM AND THEY LEAVE, WE'RE GOING TO BE IN THE SAME BOAT.
AND I THANK YOU FOR LISTENING AND ASK FOR YOUR CAREFUL CONSIDERATION. THANKS.[APPLAUSE] THERE ARE NO OTHER SPEAKERS. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, CONFINE THE COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL.
MR. MAYOR I, I LISTENED TO ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
YOU'RE FULLY AWARE OF THE MALL ITSELF. IT'S GONE THROUGH VARIOUS ITERATIONS.
THERE WAS SO MUCH EXCITEMENT WHEN IT WAS BUILT.
IT HAPPENED SHORTLY AFTER WHAT I BELIEVE IT WAS 9/11.
WE OPENED UP. BAD TIMING. I MEAN, THAT WAS TERRIBLE.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE MALL NOW, IT'S BASICALLY DEAD.
IT'S A PLACE WHERE YOU SEE A LOT OF OUR SENIOR CITIZENS DOING THEIR WALKS.
AND WE LOOKED AT SEVERAL CASES. I AGREE WITH MR. KERRY THERE. WE LOOKED AT IT WHEN WE TRIED TO RENOVATE IT AS THE BEND.
NOW WE HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO BRING A TOP NOTCH SPORTS ENTITY HERE.
IT WILL MAKE IT WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE THE CITY VIBRANT.
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SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEM ONE.THIS IS. THIS IS A MEETING OF THE COUNCIL. OKAY.
GO AHEAD. AS I SAID, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEM ONE.
MAYOR. I SECOND THAT MOTION. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE.
PLEASE VOTE. MOTION PASSES 8 TO 0. NEXT ITEM.
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Consideration to approve an Economic Development Incentive Agreement between the City of Plano, Texas, and Centennial Waterfall Willow Bend, LLC, a Delaware limited liability company; providing an economic development grant to the Company; and authorizing the City Manager, or his authorized designee, to execute all necessary documents.
]TEXAS AND CENTENNIAL WATERFALL. WILLOW BEND, LLC, A DELAWARE LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY PROVIDING AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GRANT TO THE COMPANY AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER OR HIS AUTHORIZED DESIGNEE TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS.GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL MICHAEL TALLEY, DIRECTOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
I'LL BE COVERING A OVERVIEW OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE AGREEMENT THAT IS PROPOSED THIS EVENING WITH CENTENNIAL WATERFOWL, WILLOW BEND, LLC. AS COUNCILMAN HORNE MENTIONED, THE MALL OPENED IN 2001.
CONSIDERED TO BE THE LAST TRADITIONAL ENCLOSED INDOOR MALL BUILT IN TEXAS.
JUST TO HIGHLIGHT THE IMPROVEMENT VALUE OF THE MALL IN 2018, THAT VALUE WAS AT JUST UNDER 108 MILLION AND WAS CURRENTLY VALUED IN 2025 AT 2.1 MILLION. THE LAND OVER THAT TIME HAS GONE FROM 27 MILLION TO 47 MILLION IN VALUE INTO 2025.
AND THEN BELOW THAT, YOU'LL SEE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT TENANTS THAT HAVE BEEN THERE OVER THE YEARS WITH SOME OF THOSE YEARS TO THE RIGHT AS THERE EXIT, WITH NEIMAN MARCUS ANNOUNCING THEIR EXIT FOR 2027.
AS WE KNOW FROM PRIOR DEVELOPMENTS, MALLS ARE CHALLENGING AND REQUIRE CONSOLIDATION OF LAND, WHICH CENTENNIAL HAS DONE OVER THE YEARS, WITH A COMBINED TOTAL OF JUST ABOUT 120 MILLION.
THEY REZONED THE PROPERTY IN 2024 TO DEVELOP A MIXED USE DISTRICT CALLED THE BEND.
AS MENTIONED, REPLACING THE ENCLOSED MALL WITH HOUSING, RETAIL, OFFICES AND HOTEL.
ESTIMATED AT $1 BILLION. BUT WITH THE POTENTIAL OF WORKING WITH A SPORTS TEAM AND ONE OF THE FOUR MAJOR LEAGUES IN THE COUNTRY. THAT OPPORTUNITY HAS ESTIMATED TO BE AT JUST AROUND 3 BILLION WITH A FULL ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT? OF COURSE, DEMOLITION.
THOSE COSTS WOULD BE ESTIMATED AT JUST OVER 25 MILLION, WITH EXISTING COMPONENTS TO REMAIN, INCLUDING EQUINOX, THE CRATE AND BARREL, THE NEIMAN MARCUS BUILDING WOULD ACTUALLY BE REIMAGINED, 65,000FT² OF THE RESTAURANT DISTRICT, WITH CURRENT RESTAURANTS THERE AND FUTURE RESTAURANTS COMING TO THAT SITE, AS WELL AS THE PARKING STRUCTURES. AND THEN THE DEMOLITION WOULD BEGIN EARLY 2027.
THE CITY PARTICIPATION WOULD INCLUDE $10 MILLION IN DEMOLITION ASSISTANCE THAT WOULD COME IN TWO DIFFERENT FORMS, ONE BEING PROVIDED AT MILESTONES WITH A PERFORMANCE BOND OR PAID IN FULL AT THE END OF DEMOLITION, WITH CENTENNIAL TAKING ON THE BURDEN OF THAT COST UP FRONT, INCLUDING THAT OVERALL, 15 MILLION WOULD BE ANOTHER 5 MILLION FOR A NEW VISITOR CENTER, STOREFRONT AND OFFICE SPACE, WITH A MINIMUM OF 6500FT².
VISIT PLANO IS IN JUST OVER 4000FT² AT THEIR CURRENT FACILITY IN LEGACY WEST, AND THEN THERE WOULD BE A WAIVER OF BUILDING INSPECTIONS, PLANNING AND ENGINEERING FEES THROUGH DECEMBER OF 2031.
THE OBLIGATIONS FROM CENTENNIAL. THAT REDEVELOPMENT MUST INCLUDE A MULTI-PURPOSE ARENA WITH ONE OF THE FOUR MAJOR SPORTS LEAGUES HAVING A TEAM THERE. IT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE A CONSTRUCTION AND BUILD OUT OF THE SHELL SPACE FOR VISIT PLANO'S NEW VISITOR CENTER.
AGAIN AT NO SMALLER THAN 6500FT², AND PROVIDE THE VISITOR CENTER SPACE RENT FREE FOR TEN YEARS.
IT WOULD ALSO REQUIRE SIGNIFICANT CONTRACTORS FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT TO PURCHASE BOTH EQUIPMENT AND MATERIALS FOR RESALE TAX FREE AND CHARGE STATE AND LOCAL TAXES UPON SEPARATE COSTS. THAT WOULD BE ALLOWING THE CITY OF PLANO TO COLLECT THOSE SALES TAXES DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS.
SO THE NEXT STEPS TONIGHT UNDER CONSIDERATION, OF COURSE, IS THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE AGREEMENT WITH CENTENNIAL WATERFALL WILLOW BEND. AND IF APPROVED, THOSE NEXT STEPS WOULD BE CENTENNIAL SUBMITTING FOR DEMOLITION WITH THAT BEGINNING IN 2027.
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THEY WOULD ALSO WORK WITH PLANNING AND ZONING AND THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT ON DEVELOPMENT PLANS AND ANY AMENDMENTS TO THE EXISTING PLAN DEVELOPMENT.AND WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU MICHAEL. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? COUNCIL MEMBER LAVINE.
THANK YOU MICHAEL. ON THE VISITOR CENTER. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT BASICALLY IS PRETTY MUCH EQUAL TO WHAT THE CITY WOULD BE SPENDING IF WE STAYED IN OUR CURRENT AREA AND WITH PLANS TO EXPAND THAT SOMEWHAT IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
SO BASICALLY IT'S KIND OF A WASH. THAT'S CORRECT.
YES, SIR. MAYOR PRO TEM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MICHAEL, FOR A GREAT PRESENTATION.
MY QUESTION IS, FOR INSTANCE, IS THE IF WE'RE NOT ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE BIG FOUR SPORTS ARENA, DOES THIS AGREEMENT GO AWAY? IT HAS THE ABILITY TO GO AWAY, CORRECT.
YES, SIR. WOULD WE BE ABLE TO USE THIS AGREEMENT TO SUPPORT A PLAN B IF THERE WAS SOME OTHER REQUIREMENT THAT MR. CENTENNIAL MAY NEED? IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD, POSSIBLY.
OKAY. JUST WANTED TO KNOW. BUT RIGHT NOW, AS IT STANDS, IF THE ARENA ARENA DOES NOT MOVE FORWARD, IT WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR REVISITING THIS.
YES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? WE DO HAVE FOUR SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM. OKAY, LET'S LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET THAT STARTED.
OKAY. STEVE LEVIN OR STEVEN LEVIN. EXCUSE ME.
GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS STEVEN LEVIN. I'M MANAGING PARTNER OF CENTENNIAL.
I THINK THAT MICHAEL TALLEY DID A VERY GOOD JOB ON EXPLAINING THE AGENDA ITEM.
AND IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS THAT I CAN ANSWER, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
THANK YOU. OKAY. THE NEXT SPEAKER IS DREW NICKERSON, FOLLOWED BY JENNIFER GROISMAN.
OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS GROISMAN.
15 MILLION TO THE CURRENT OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY.
IN EXCHANGE, THE OWNERS WILL DEMOLISH THE INLINE SPACE OF THE MALL, COMMUNITY THEATER, DILLARD'S, AND THE CRAYOLA FACTORY. THEY WILL ALSO DO SITE PREPARATION WORK.
WHAT DOES THE CITY GET? A SHELF SPACE. 6500FT².
ALL BUILDING INSPECTIONS, PLANNING, ENGINEERING FEES TOTALLY WAIVED.
AND OF COURSE, SALES TAXES WAIVED. THE THEATER THAT CAN'T EVEN AFFORD MICS AND COSTUMES FOR THEIR ACTORS. GETS THE BOOT, BUT THE $2.3 BILLION STARS GET AN ARENA AND YOU GET A VISITOR CENTER. THE THEATER WAS ORIGINALLY SUPPOSED TO GET A SPACE IN THE ORIGINAL DESIGN PLAN.
WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT? WHERE IS THE COMMUNITY THEATER GROUP THAT MY DAUGHTER JUST JOINED? SUPPOSED TO GO? ALSO, YOU HAVE A WATER AND SEWER STUDY, BUT NO ENERGY STUDY.
WHERE ARE WE SUPPOSED TO GET THOSE FROM BECAUSE THEY ARE BOTH IN SHORT SUPPLY? VOTE NO ON THIS DEAL. THE LAST SPEAKER IS JOSEPH LINARES.
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THANK YOU AGAIN, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I'LL JUST FINISH THE OTHER PREPARED COMMENTS THAT I HAD.EFFECTIVE MANAGEMENT OR ELIMINATION OF SHORT TERM RENTALS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED.
FAA HEIGHT LIMITS SHOULD BE LOOKED AT AND FOLLOWED.
FINALLY, AND I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE TRZ NUMBER SIX GRANT FUNDING OR SET ASIDE OR USE A SET ASIDE FOR NEIGHBORHOODS MATCHING GRANTS FOCUSED ON SAFETY, SECURITY AND BEAUTIFICATION OR INFRASTRUCTURE IN THOSE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS.
YOU DO A GREAT JOB. THESE ENHANCEMENTS WILL HELP REDEVELOPMENT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. IS THAT THE LAST ONE? OKAY. SO THAT WE THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING.
SO IF I HAVE A MOTION OR COMMENTS. YOU'RE WELCOME.
MR. MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO.
OKAY, MR. MAYOR, I SECOND THAT. SO I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO, PLEASE VOTE. MOTION PASSES 8 TO 0. NEXT ITEM.
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Consideration to approve a non-binding Letter of Intent between the City of Plano, Texas, and Dallas Sports & Entertainment LP, a Delaware limited partnership; and authorizing the City Manager, or his authorized designee, to execute such Letter of Intent.
]TEXAS, AND DALLAS SPORTS AND ENTERTAINMENT LP, A DELAWARE LIMITED PARTNERSHIP, AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER OR HIS DESIGNEE OR HIS AUTHORIZED TO EXECUTE SUCH LETTER OF INTENT.GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL. DOUG MCDONALD, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. TONIGHT, WE'LL BE PRESENTING TO YOU THE CONSIDERATION OF THE NON-BINDING LETTER OF INTENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF PLANO AND THE DALLAS SPORTS AND ENTERTAINMENT L.P..
AS YOU'VE READ, THE LETTER OF INTENT IS A NON-BINDING AGREEMENT BETWEEN US AND THE THE ORGANIZATION.
WHAT THIS DOES IS ACTUALLY STARTS THE PROCESS.
THIS IS KIND OF DAY ONE OF US WALKING THROUGH THE PROCESS AND WORKING WITH THE PUBLIC ON TRANSPORTATION, WORKING WITH THE COUNCIL ON FUNDING MECHANISMS, AND GETTING A FUNDING PLAN PUT TOGETHER, BUT ALLOWS US TO NOW PUBLICLY GO OUT AND WORK ON SOME OF THESE ISSUES THAT ARE GOING TO BE REALLY CRITICAL IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE WILLOWBEND REDEVELOPMENT.
IT DOES IDENTIFY KEY TERMS AND GENERAL COMMITMENTS, REALLY, TO KIND OF HELP US TAKE THAT NEXT STEP OF NOW, THE EVALUATION AND CONSIDERATION FEASIBILITY PROCESS.
IT ALLOWS US TO CONTINUE TO FUND, TO LOOK AT FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES WITH OTHER ENTITIES AND ALSO PROCEED WITH THE TRANSPORTATION AND FEASIBILITY STUDIES THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED HERE PREVIOUSLY, AND THEN ALLOWS THE TEAM TO PROCEED WITH SELECTING AN ARCHITECTURE FIRM, DEVELOPING SITE AND TRANSPORTATION PLANS, WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS, AND ALSO PURSUING SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE NEW ARENA.
DSE, THROUGH ITS SUBSIDIARY, IS DSE HOCKEY CLUB, WHICH OWNS AND OPERATES THE NHL FRANCHISE.
KNOWN THE DALLAS STARS, THE DALLAS STARS, IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF PLANO AND CENTENNIAL, WILL TOGETHER DEVELOP A SPORTS AND ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT ANCHORED BY THE NEW ARENA THAT WILL BE HOME FOR THE DALLAS STARS, AS WELL AS TO ACCOMMODATE OTHER INDOOR SPORTS, ENTERTAINMENT, CULTURAL, EDUCATIONAL AND CIVIC EVENTS.
AS YOU KNOW, THIS SITE IS AT THE FORMER AND CURRENT WILLOW BEND SITE.
THIS IS A RENDERING PROVIDED TO US BY THE, BY CENTENNIAL.
YOU CAN SEE NEIMAN MARCUS BOX AS WELL, THE PARKING GARAGE SURROUNDING ALONG THE THE PARKING GARAGE.
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SO LONG AS THE DEVELOPMENT COSTS IN THE ARENA ARE EQUAL TO OR EXCEED THE 1 BILLION.SO IT'S AGAIN A 3 BILLION SPORTS AND ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT THAT WOULD BE PROPOSED. THE TIRZ WILL BE FUNDING BASED ON THE PROPERTY VALUE GROWTH OF TIRZ SIX, WHICH INCORPORATES THE WILLOW BEND SITE AS WELL AS OTHER NON-ORIGINAL PROPERTIES ALONG THE TOLLWAY. LOOKING FOR FUNDING FOR BOTH FUTURE GROWTH TIRZ AND ALSO FROM FROM VISITOR SPENT.
OTHER FUNDING SOURCES WILL INCLUDE OTHER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOLS, THE STATE LEVEL THAT WE'LL PURSUE, BUT ALSO THE VENUE TAXES THAT WILL BE PRESENTED IN THE NEXT ITEM. THE CITY WILL NOT ISSUE BONDS FOR CONSTRUCTION FOR THE ARENA WITHOUT THE PHASING COMMITMENTS FROM THE DALLAS STARS AND CENTENNIAL TO DEVELOP THE ACTUAL DISTRICT, THE ARENA WOULD BE OWNED BY THE CITY AND LEASE THE DALLAS SPORTS AND ENTERTAINMENT FOR AN INITIAL TERM OF 30 YEARS, AND THE ARENA WOULD BE HOME TO THE DALLAS STARS, AS WELL AS OTHER EVENTS SUCH AS PLANO ISD GRADUATIONS.
AND JUST A REMINDER, THIS CONTRIBUTION DOES NOT IMPACT THE CURRENT PROPERTY TAX RATE FOR OUR RESIDENTS. THIS IS A STREET VIEW OR A RENDERING OF FROM THE, FROM THE RESTAURANT DISTRICT ACTUALLY LOOKING TO THE WEST.
HERE'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF A POTENTIAL ARENA RENDERING.
AGAIN, THIS IS ALL SUBJECT TO CHANGE AS OF TODAY, BUT AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND WORK WITH THE PUBLIC, YOU'LL SEE CENTENNIAL IN THE CITY AS WELL AS THE DALLAS STARS. WE'LL BE WORKING WITH THE PUBLIC TO REFINE THIS VISION SET FORTH.
FIRST AND FOREMOST WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THE ARENA MASTER AGREEMENT. THIS IS KIND OF THE THE ACTUAL AGREEMENT THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH WITH YOU ALL TO NEGOTIATE, AGAIN, THE THE FURTHER AGREEMENTS BETWEEN US AND THE DALLAS STARS.
THERE WILL BE A CAPITAL ASSET MANAGEMENT PLAN.
WE'LL BE WORKING WITH OUR WITH OUR PARTNERS TO ACTUALLY DEVELOP A ASSET MANAGEMENT PLAN TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE REFRESHES BUILT IN TO OUR PROGRAM AS THIS PROGRESSES AND TIMES CHANGE. WE WILL BE WORKING WITH THE TRANSPORTATION, PARKING AND EVENT PLAN.
THIS IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT, AS WE KIND OF PROGRESS ON, WE HAVE FIVE YEARS TO WORK ON.
SO THERE'S GOING TO BE TECHNOLOGY INNOVATIONS GOING TO BE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE INCORPORATING AND MOVING FORWARD, AND THAT IT'S NOT JUST A PLAN WE'RE CREATING TODAY, BUT IT'S A PLAN THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. WE'LL BE DEVELOPING A COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT.
THIS LOOKS AT AREAS THAT THE TEAM WILL BE BRINGING BACK TO THE TO THE ORGANIZATION, TO THE CITY OF PLANO, AND WHAT THEIR COMMITMENT IS BACK TO THE CITY OF PLANO NOW BEING A CORPORATE PARTNER OF OUR COMMUNITY, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF OTHER DEFINITIVE AGREEMENTS WE HAVE TO GET THROUGH. AGAIN, THIS IS A, YOU KNOW, A 12 TO 24 MONTH PROCESS THROUGH THESE AGREEMENTS, THROUGH THE PARKING PLANS, THE CAPITAL MANAGEMENT PLANS.
BUT DURING THAT TIME, WE ARE WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE DALLAS STARS.
AND AS I DEFINED OUR MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE NEGOTIATING AGREEMENT, THAT WE'LL BE WORKING WITH THEM.
SO TONIGHT, COUNCIL, YOU HAVE CONSIDERATION TO APPROVE THE NONBINDING LETTER OF INTENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF PLANO AND DALLAS SPORTS AND ENTERTAINMENT. NEXT STEPS CITY, IF THE COUNCIL WERE TO PROCEED WITH THIS, IS TO FINALIZE OUR FINANCING PLAN FOR ITS CONTRIBUTION FOR THE ARENA COST.
WE WILL BE HIRING A TRANSPORTATION FIRM THAT WILL BE COMING TO YOU, HOPEFULLY IN LATE JUNE OR EARLY JULY, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH BRINGING ON A PARTNER WITH US, TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS ON THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT EXPERIENCE AND HOLD OPEN HOUSE MEETINGS NEXT MONTH FOR THE PLANO CITIZENS.
THIS IS NOT THE ONLY TIME THAT WE'LL BE GETTING INPUT. WE'LL BE GETTING INPUT THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. THE TEAM WILL THEN HIRE THE ARCHITECT TO DESIGN THE ARENA AND DEVELOP THE FINANCING PLAN ON THEIR END. WORKING WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER TO DESIGN THE SITE CONFIGURATION, MIX OF USES AND DISTRICT PHASING PLAN, AND THEN WORKING WITH THE CITY ON THE MASTER AGREEMENT AND DEFINITIVE DOCUMENTS.
THIS IS SOME INFORMATION WE'LL BE RELEASING TONIGHT.
WE'LL HAVE IN HOUSE MEETINGS AT WILLOWBEND PROPERTY ON ON JULY 8TH FROM 11 A.M.
TO 1 P.M., AND THEN JULY 14TH FROM 6 P.M. TO 8 P.M..
SO HOPEFULLY CATCHING BOTH FOLKS WHO CAN TAKE OFF DURING LUNCH OR FOLKS IN THE EVENINGS THAT MAY HAVE OTHER COMMITMENTS IN THE EVENING. YOU'LL BE ENTERING THE MALL THROUGH THE EQUINOX AND CRATE AND BARREL SIDE. WE WILL HAVE A DEDICATED WEB PAGE THAT WILL BE LAUNCHING TOMORROW MORNING AT INFORMATION ON THIS PROCESS, AS THE COMMUNITY CAN CONTINUE TO FOLLOW THIS AS IT PROGRESSES FOR THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.
AND THEN ALSO A GUIDED VIRTUAL OPEN HOUSE THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR THOSE UNABLE TO ATTEND THESE IN-PERSON EVENTS FROM JULY 8TH TO THE 22 AT THANK YOU DOUG. COUNCIL MEMBER. KEHR. MR. MCDONALD, I JUST WANT TO JUST SORT OF REITERATE.
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THIS IS REALLY WHERE WE'RE GETTING THE CHANCE TO REALLY GET STARTED. AND I WOULD SAY THAT THE CITIZENS, THE RESIDENTS, THEY ALL HAVE THEIR CHANCE TO GIVE US PLENTY OF INPUT.IDENTIFY POTENTIAL PROBLEMS AND FOR US TO ADDRESS IT WELL AHEAD OF TIME.
THAT'S CORRECT. COUNCIL AS I MENTIONED THAT THIS IS THIS IS A START LINE FOR US TO LOOK AT.
IS THIS FEASIBLE? CAN WE DO THIS? WHAT ARE THE IMPACTS? HOW DO WE ADDRESS THE IMPACTS. AND THEN BE ABLE TO BRING THAT FORWARD FOR BOTH THE COMMUNITY AND BOTH YOUR FOR CONSIDERATION IN THE FUTURE IN APPROVING THIS TONIGHT? DOESN'T MEAN IT'S A DONE DEAL. THERE'S STILL PLENTY OF WORK TO DO AND A LOT OF DECISIONS TO BE MADE BETWEEN NOW AND FINALIZING.
THAT'S CORRECT. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER DOWNS.
THANK YOU MAYOR. MR. MCDONALD, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS ASPECT OF THAT.
AS THOSE CONVERSATIONS CONTINUE WITH DALLAS STARS, WILL THERE BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF OUR ARTS AND CULTURE COMMUNITY TO SEE HOW MAYBE THAT CAN BE INTEGRATED INTO A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT THIS ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT MAY LOOK LIKE OVER THERE? NO, ABSOLUTELY. THERE'LL BE PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO WORK WITH THE DALLAS STARS ON WHAT ARE THE NEEDS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND HOW CAN THEY ADDRESS THEM. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND INPUT ON THIS INITIATIVE.
MY THOUGHT IS WITH THE COMMUNITY AND IT MATTERS TO ME HOW THEY FEEL.
I SEE THAT THERE WILL BE OPEN HOUSES AND OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR INPUT.
HAVE WE DEVELOPED THE WAYS THAT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE AND VOICE THEIR CONCERNS AND OPINIONS THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS? YES, MA'AM. SO ONE OF THE WE WILL HAVE THESE TWO OPEN HOUSES.
THIS IS NOT THE ONLY TIME WE'LL BE COMING OUT TO THE PUBLIC. THERE'LL BE DIFFERENT TIMES. WE NEED TO GO OUT TO THE PUBLIC AND MEET WITH NEIGHBORHOODS. THERE MAY BE INSTANCES WHERE WE NEED TO ACTUALLY GO OUT AND MEET WITH A SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOOD. I KNOW WE'VE HAD SOME SOME MEETINGS PREVIOUSLY WITH SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS, NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND THE SITE THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE SOME SPECIFIC INPUT AND GUIDANCE FROM CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS OR HOAS.
OUR, OUR WEBSITE WILL HAVE ON AND WHAT'S NEXT. THERE'S ALSO AN ABILITY TO SIGN UP AS PART OF A NEWSLETTER.
SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO KEEP THE PUBLIC UPDATED AS IT PROGRESSES.
BUT AGAIN, THIS IS, THIS IS GOING TO BE A LONG PROCESS FOR US TO WORK THROUGH THE COMMUNITY, WORK THROUGH THE ORGANIZATION TO MAKE SURE IT'S THE RIGHT FIT, MAKE SURE WE HAVE ALL THE, THE FEASIBILITY STUDIES DONE AND THAT WE HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU DOCTOR. THANK YOU.
ONCE AGAIN. THIS IS. OH THAT'S RIGHT. WE GOT A LOT OF SPEAKERS.
OKAY. SEVERAL SPEAKERS. LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED ON SPEAKERS.
OKAY. THE FIRST SPEAKER IS NICOLE MILLER FOLLOWED BY JODY VENTURONI.
NICOLE MILLER. JODY VENTURONI.
HELLO. YOU KNOW, THINGS ARE GETTING SERIOUS WHEN THE INTROVERTS SHOW UP.
SO HAPPY TO BE HERE AND REPRESENT ALL INTROVERTS IN THE CITY OF PLANO.
MY NAME YOU THINK YOU HEARD IS JODY VENTRONE.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE DATA TELLS US A REALLY INTERESTING STORY ABOUT DEALS LIKE THIS.
IF ARENAS WERE THE ECONOMIC ENGINES THEY CLAIM TO BE, CITIES WOULD MOVE HEAVEN AND EARTH TO KEEP THEIR TEAMS, BUT THEY DON'T. DALLAS DIDN'T KEEP THE COWBOYS, THE MAVERICKS, AND NOW THEY'RE LETTING THE STARS GO.
CHICAGO LET THE BEARS WALK. OAKLAND AND LA LET RAIDERS THE RAIDERS GO.
AND THE LIST CAN GO ON AND ON. THESE AREN'T STRUGGLING TOWNS.
THESE ARE MAJOR U.S. CITIES THAT DID THE MATH AND DECIDED THE FIGHT WASN'T WORTH IT.
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PUBLICLY FUNDED ARENAS ARE GREAT AT GENERATING EXCITEMENT.AS WE HAVE SEEN IN THE NEWS COVERAGE, AND BAD AT GENERATING THE RETURNS THAT THEY PROMISE.
RECENTLY IN COBB COUNTY, GEORGIA, NEARBY NEIGHBORS OF THE NEW BRAVES STADIUM PAID FOR A DEAL AS TAXPAYERS, AND THEN THEY WATCHED THEIR PROPERTY VALUE FALL VERSUS THE REST OF THE ATLANTA METRO AREA.
AND THIS IS A PATTERN THAT WE SEE REPEATED IN CITY AFTER CITY.
AND IN ALMOST EVERY CASE, PEOPLE CLOSEST TO THE ARENA, PEOPLE LIKE ME AND MY NEIGHBORS PAY TWICE, ONCE AS TAXPAYERS WHO ARE FUNDING THE DEAL, AND AGAIN AS HOMEOWNERS ABSORBING THE TRAFFIC, THE NOISE, THE CONGESTION, AND THE LAGGING PROPERTY VALUES.
MY NEIGHBORS AND I DID NOT CHOOSE PLANO TO LIVE NEXT TO A REGIONAL ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.
WE CHOSE IT FOR THE QUIET STREETS, THE GOOD SCHOOLS AND A CITY THAT PUTS ITS RESIDENTS FIRST.
WE'RE ASKING THE COUNCIL NOT TO UNDO THAT CHOICE FOR US.
20S. BEFORE THIS VOTE, I ASK YOU TO ANSWER THREE QUESTIONS ON THE RECORD.
WHERE IS THE INDEPENDENT ECONOMIC ECONOMIC ANALYSIS? WHO GUARANTEES THE TIRZ REVENUE PROJECTIONS AND WHAT PROTECTIONS EXIST FOR RESIDENTS LIKE ME WHO LIVE WITH THE CONSEQUENCES LONG AFTER THE RIBBONS CUT? WE CHOSE PLANO AND NOW WE'RE ASKING PLANO TO CHOOSE US.
PLEASE VOTE NO [APPLAUSE]. THANK YOU. THE NEXT SPEAKER IS ETHAN ROBBINS, FOLLOWED BY JEFF PASCAL.
TRY IT AGAIN. ETHAN ROBBINS. ETHAN ROBBINS, FOLLOWED BY JEFF PASCAL. JEFF. THANK YOU.
GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JEFF PASCAL. I LIVE IN PLANO, AND I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE COLLECTIVE VOICES OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS GLEN MEADOWS, THE VILLAGE OF GLEN MEADOWS AND WINDHAM HILL.
TOGETHER, OUR THREE NEIGHBORHOODS MAKE UP THE 324 HOMES THAT ARE CLOSEST NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE MALL.
FIRST, I WANT TO EXPRESS OUR THANKS TO CITY STAFF THAT'S ALREADY RECOGNIZED OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AS GROUND ZERO FOR NEGATIVE IMPACTS, AND THEY'VE PROACTIVELY ENGAGED WITH US TO DISCUSS VARIOUS WHAT IF SCENARIOS.
SO THANK YOU. THE IMPACTS THAT WE ANTICIPATE INCLUDE MAJOR ARENA TRAFFIC, WHICH WILL CREATE GRIDLOCK AROUND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, IMPACT OUR QUALITY OF LIFE, IMPACT OUR ABILITY TO GET IN AND OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ON EVENT NIGHTS TO DO THINGS THAT WE ALREADY DO GO OUT TO DINNER TO MAKE IT TO OUR KIDS, EVENING ACTIVITIES, SCHOOL FUNCTIONS, AND OUR OWN EVENTS. WE ARE LITERALLY GROUND ZERO.
AND THEY WERE AFRAID OF WHAT IT DOES TO OUR PROPERTY VALUES.
SOME IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THINKS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ARTIFICIAL PROPERTY VALUE SPIKES, COSTING RESIDENTS OF PLANO EXTRA TAX DOLLARS ON TOP OF WHAT THEY WOULD HAVE NORMALLY BEEN PAYING.
AND THEN OTHERS ARE AFRAID OF DIMINISHED RESALE VALUES BECAUSE BUYERS WANT TO DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS LITERALLY 0.1 MILES FROM THE MALL SITE. SO I WOULD ASK THE COUNCIL TO MAKE SURE YOU ALL EXPLICITLY ALLOCATE NECESSARY FUNDS, INFRASTRUCTURE AND PUBLIC SAFETY RESOURCES TO OFFSET VERY REAL, LOCALIZED IMPACTS TO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
THE MAIN THING THAT OUR RESIDENTS WANT IS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO BE GATED, TO LIMIT THE CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC AND TO PROVIDE SAFETY. BUT THEN WE ALSO HAVE VERY REAL OTHER IDEAS AND CONCEPTS.
WE'RE NOT HERE TO SAY NO. WE HAVE MANY PEOPLE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ARE IN FAVOR OF THE ARENA, AND WE HAVE MANY THAT ARE OPPOSED. I'M HERE TO REPRESENT THE GROUP AND THE VOICES TO THE CITY AND WITH THE CITY,
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AND HOPEFULLY YOU ALL WILL CONTINUE TO WORK BESIDE US TO MAKE THIS NOT BECOME A MISERY UPON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.THANK YOU. THE NEXT SPEAKER IS SEAN MCKENNA, FOLLOWED BY DREW NICKERSON.
IT IS UNCLEAR FROM THIS LETTER OF INTENT IF THIS INCLUDES NON-HOCKEY REVENUE, BUT THE HISTORY OF 21ST CENTURY ARENA DEVELOPMENT SHOWS THAT MOST OF THE AGREEMENTS LEAD TO THE TEAM KEEPING ALL THE REVENUE. IF A CONCERT PLAYS THE AREA, THE DALLAS STARS GET A CUT, NOT THE CITY OF PLANO. THERE ARE NO INDICATIONS IN THIS AGREEMENT THAT THE DALLAS STARS WILL PAY ANY RENT TO THE CITY FOR USING A CITY OWNED FACILITY.
THIS IS CRAZY. THE CITY OF PLANO WILL OWN THE ARENA BUT GET NOTHING FROM IT.
YOU ARE NOT. YOU ARE NOT SPENDING $700 MILLION.
YOU ARE LIKELY SPENDING $1.4 MILLION IN 15 YEARS.
THIS RENOVATION MONEY CAN ALSO COME FROM ANY SOURCE, NOT JUST THE TIRZ FUNDS.
WHY SHOULD MY TAX DOLLARS BE USED FOR THE PRIVATE GAIN OF A CORPORATION? THANK YOU [APPLAUSE].
COMING TO YOU GUYS. AS A RESIDENT, I DO BELIEVE THERE NEEDS TO BE A RESTRUCTURING IN HOW WE DO GO ABOUT THESE FUNDS, BECAUSE TAKING THIS MONEY FROM TAXPAYERS IS GOING TO GIVE PUSH BACK IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.
AND I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHO WATCHES HOCKEY IN TEXAS [LAUGHS].
I MEAN, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THE BEST PLACE. I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE GOT THE MAVERICKS ARENA OR PUSHED FOR SOMETHING BETTER, BECAUSE ME COMING FROM SOMEWHERE LIKE GARLAND WHERE I GREW UP AND MOVING TO WEST PLANO, SEEING HOW GREAT OF A CITY IT IS, SEEING THE HIGH SCHOOLS, YOU KNOW, THE THE NEW, THE LEGACY WEST, ALL THE NICE CARS AND WHATNOT.
AND YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO BUILD A STADIUM THAT MIGHT GO DOWN IN 20 TO 30 YEARS. LIKE EVERYBODY'S SAYING, IT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED. THERE NEEDS TO BE REAL URBAN PLANNING AROUND THIS, AS IF THERE ALREADY ISN'T ENOUGH TRAFFIC.
AND I THINK TRUE CONSIDERATION, CONSIDERATION NEEDS TO BE TAKEN FROM ALL OF YOU GUYS ON THIS SUBJECT, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE WORKING PROPERLY OR GOING TO BE PLANNED PROPERLY.
AND IF IT ISN'T, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER FAILED CITY OR PART OF THE CITY.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THE NEXT SPEAKER IS ETHAN BEAUREGARD, FOLLOWED BY JERRY FRANKEL. ETHAN. JERRY FRANKEL.
ALL RIGHT. WE WILL MOVE ON TO JENNIFER GROISMAN.
AND SHE WILL BE FOLLOWED BY JOSEPH LINARES. THE LETTER OF INTENT FOR THE STARS CLEARLY STATES THE CITY WILL OWN THE ARENA SITE AND THE ARENA.
THE STARS GET A 30 YEAR LEASE FOR. IT DOESN'T SAY HOW MUCH.
AFTER THAT TIME, THE STARS CAN PICK UP AND THEY CAN LEAVE, JUST LIKE THEY DID TO DALLAS.
THE STARS GET TO KEEP ALL THE MONEY FROM THE TICKET SALES, USE AND OPERATIONS OF THE ARENA.
THEY WILL ALSO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR OPERATIONS, MAINTENANCE AND ROUTINE REPAIRS, BUT THE TAXPAYERS ARE ON THE HOOK FOR MAJOR CAPITAL EXPENSES. PARKING FOR THE ARENA IS LISTED AT $3 PER CAR.
IF YOU TAKE DART, IT WOULD COST YOU $6 ROUND TRIP.
HOWEVER, THESE PROVIDERS COULD TELL THE CITY TO GO POUND SAND.
CLEARLY, YOU HAVE NOT THOUGHT THIS ALL THROUGH.
THE ARENA WHERE THE STARS ARE RIGHT NOW HOLDS ABOUT 20,000 PEOPLE.
IF WE GUESS TWO PEOPLE PER CAR, THAT WOULD BE 10,000 CARS ON EVENT DAYS.
ARE YOU GOING TO BUILD A RAMP OFF THE TOLLWAY TO THE PROPERTY LIKE BUCKY'S? IF NOT, ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE TO GO? GO. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO ON THE STREETS AROUND THE PROPERTY,
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MAKING IT HARD FOR RESIDENTS TO GET TO THEIR HOMES ON EVENT DAYS.YOU WILL BE MAKING IT HELL FOR THE RESIDENTS LIKE ME WHO LIVE NEAR THIS PROPERTY.
IF YOU REALLY CARE ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE AND WORK HERE YOU WILL VOTE NO ON THIS.
IF YOU DO NOT CARE. THEN YOU'LL VOTE YES AND I WILL KNOW EXACTLY HOW TO VOTE FOR YOU ALL.
MAY 2027. [APPLAUSE] JOSEPH LEONARDS AND THE LAST SPEAKER FOLLOWING JOSEPH WILL BE JENNIFER JOPLING.
JUST PLEASE REMEMBER THE CLOSE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WERE MENTIONED DO NEED EXTRA SUPPORT.
WE ARE HARD WORKING CITIZENS. I'VE BEEN PAYING TAXES FOR 25 YEARS.
KIDS GREW UP HERE, AND I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE WORKED INCREDIBLY HARD.
THEY PROBABLY NEED A SPOT, PROBABLY FAIR ENOUGH.
BUT I THINK YOU'LL FIGURE THAT OUT. YOU'RE ALL LEADERS IN YOUR OWN RIGHT.
AND I THINK IT'S PROBABLE THAT YOU'LL MAKE THIS WORK FOR EVERYONE HERE OR THE MAJORITY.
THERE ARE ALWAYS PEOPLE WHO ARE NEVER GOING TO BE SATISFIED WITH WHATEVER PLAN YOU PUT FORWARD.
PLEASE REMEMBER THAT I, FOR ONE, DO TRUST THAT YOU WILL COME UP WITH THE RIGHT PLAN.
OKAY, THE INTROVERTS ARE OUT. MY NAME IS JENNIFER.
WE BUILT OUR HOUSE 30 YEARS AGO WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF THE MALL.
LIVED IN PLANO FOR CLOSE TO 37 YEARS. SO VERY FAMILIAR.
AND I'M GOING TO TAKE THE MALL HAS NOT BEEN DEFUNCT FOR 20 YEARS.
USED TO DROP MY KIDS OFF THERE OR GO WITH THEM TO THE MALL.
SO THAT'S NOT TRUE. OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SAID WHAT I WANTED TO SAY, INCLUDING THE LADY IN THE BLUE DRESS AND THEN PROBABLY THE LAST COUPLE OF SPEAKERS BEFORE ME. SO I'M JUST GOING TO END WITH ALL THE PEOPLE THAT HOPEFULLY WILL SUPPORT ME AND CLAPPING.
WE DON'T WANT IT. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] THAT WAS THE LAST SPEAKER. OKAY, THAT'S THE LAST SPEAKER. I'LL LEAVE THE COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL.
COUNCIL MEMBER. KEHR. MR. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO OFFER SOME OF MY OWN PERSPECTIVES.
I HEARD FROM THE CITIZENS TODAY HAVE BEEN HEARING THEM FROM FOR A LITTLE WHILE ABOUT YOUR CONCERNS, YOU KNOW, AND I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND IT. AND I THINK THEY'RE VALID, THEY'RE VALID CONCERNS AND THAT WE ABSOLUTELY MUST ADDRESS IT.
YOU KNOW, I THINK THE CITY IS WHAT IT IS BECAUSE OF THOUGHTFUL PLANNING, A LOT OF EFFORT FROM THE CITY, FROM LEADERSHIP, FROM INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY.
THESE ARE THE REASONS WHY THIS CITY IS WHAT IT IS.
THIS IS WHY ORGANIZATIONS ARE MOVING HERE. THERE'S HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE.
YOU KNOW, AS I, I LOOK AT THE PROJECT, IT'S CLEAR TO ME THAT THE STARS WANT TO BE IN THIS AREA.
AND IF WE SAY NO TO THIS, THEY MAY END UP IN A CITY, IT'S ON OUR BORDER, WHICH IS GOING TO AFFECT OUR TRAFFIC AND ALL THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT TODAY. AND SO IF WE SAY NO TO THIS LOI, WE'RE SAYING NO FOREVER AND WE DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THIS BETTER. AND WE MAY VERY END UP WITH THE SAME PROBLEMS, BUT WITHOUT IT BEING UNDER OUR CONTROL, WITHOUT OUR HAVING THE ABILITY TO WORK WITH THE CITY AND THE COMMUNITY TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO SOLVE PROBLEMS AS THEY COME ABOUT.
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HAVE INPUT. MAYOR PRO TEM. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU.THANK YOU. MAYOR. AGAIN, WE HEAR YOU. PLEASE UNDERSTAND.
WE HEAR YOU. COME ON, Y'ALL, PLEASE. WE HEAR YOU.
PLEASE UNDERSTAND. THIS IS THE FIRST STEP. AS DEPUTY CITY MANAGER MCDONALD POINTED OUT, WE CAN'T MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY DECISION UNLESS WE HAVE THIS NON-BINDING AGREEMENT SIGNED AND MOVING FORWARD. AS HE POINTED OUT, WE HAVE TWO PUBLIC MEETINGS SCHEDULED RIGHT NOW FOR NEXT MONTH.
PLEASE LOOK AT THEM AND PLEASE PLAN TO ATTEND.
BUT THOSE ARE JUST THE FIRST. YES, OUR EMAILS WORK.
YOU CAN. WE GET ALL YOUR EMAILS, WE GET ALL YOUR EMAILS.
AND WE WERE GOING TO CONTINUE HAVING THESE MEETINGS.
WE WANT TO PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. WE WANT TO PROTECT ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS HERE, BUT WE ALSO STILL WANT TO BE A VIBRANT, RELEVANT CITY IN THE FUTURE, AND WE DON'T WANT TO BE TURNED INTO ONE OF THE TIRED CITIES THAT YOU SEE SURROUNDING US, INCLUDING SOME OF THE LARGER CITIES THAT WE'RE SEEING.
THEY COULD MOVE ANYWHERE. AND YES, THEY COULD MOVE AFTER 30 YEARS.
BUT THE WAY WE HAVE OUR TIRZ SET UP IS THAT WE CAN HAVE A PLAN B AFTER, OR IF THE STARS DO LEAVE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE AGREEMENT THAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT TOGETHER WITH THE STARS, WE HAVE AN INITIAL 30 YEAR TERM WITH AN OPTION FOR ANOTHER 20 YEARS.
WE HOPE YOU LOVE THE STARS. WE HOPE THAT THEY BRING A CHAMPIONSHIP TO PLANO.
SECOND, MR. MAYOR. OKAY, I HAVE A MOTION. AND SECOND.
BUT I'M GOING TO LET COUNCIL MEMBER LAVINE. THANK YOU MAYOR.
AS THIS GETS DEVELOPED IT WAS ASKED WHETHER OR NOT WE WOULD HAVE AN INDEPENDENT ECONOMIC ANALYSIS.
WE DO. I MEAN, WE WOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN THIS FAR WITHOUT KNOWING WHETHER OR NOT THE CITY THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD DEAL FOR THE CITY AND OUR TAXPAYERS. BUT WE HAVE A LOT TO LEARN YET, AND WE HAVE A LOT TO WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS THE BEST DEAL THAT WE POSSIBLY CAN FOR OUR TAXPAYERS. AND AS HAS BEEN SAID, IT'S THE BEGINNING.
WE CAN'T DO THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS UNTIL WE GET THIS APPROVED.
AND NOW THE WORK BEGINS. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING YOUR COMMENTS, NOT JUST TONIGHT, BUT IN IN OUR MEETINGS IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS. AND AS THIS GOES FORWARD, THERE WILL BE OTHER TIMES FOR YOU TO SPEAK UP.
SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. AND I ALSO AM IN FAVOR OF MOVING FORWARD.
SO I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE ITEM THREE.
PLEASE VOTE. MOTION PASSES 8 TO 0.
[(4)
Consideration to approve a Resolution designating and providing for the planning, acquisition, establishment, development, construction, and renovation of a sports and community venue project under Chapter 334 of the Texas Local Government Code and designating methods of financing for the project, subject to voter approval at an election called for such purpose.
]ACQUISITION, ESTABLISHMENT, DEVELOPMENT, CONSTRUCTION AND RENOVATION OF A SPORTS AND COMMUNITY VENUE PROJECT UNDER CHAPTER 334 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE AND DESIGNATING METHODS OF FINANCING FOR THE PROJECT, SUBJECT TO VOTER APPROVAL AT AN ELECTION CALLED FOR SUCH PURPOSE.THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I WANT TO FIRST RECOGNIZE BRETT, GREG AND COOPER HERE.
OUR BOND COUNCIL REPRESENTING MCCALL PARKHURST AND HORTON HORTON.
SO I WANT TO TALK TO YOU A BIT ABOUT THE VENUE PROJECT. THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT TICKET SALES, PARKING TAXES, THINGS LIKE THAT. THIS IS WHERE A LOT OF THIS COMES INTO PLAY. CITIES CANNOT ENFORCE THOSE TAXES WITHOUT PUBLIC REFERENDUM AND PUBLIC SUPPORT FROM A BOND OR FROM A ELECTION.
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THIS IS WHAT WE'LL HAVE TO PROCESS AND GO THROUGH TONIGHT.AND FIRST AND FOREMOST, THE CITY MUST, BY RESOLUTION, DESIGNATE THE VENUE PROJECT AND PROPOSE PROPOSED METHODS OF FINANCING, SUCH AS VENUE PROJECTS, AND SUBMIT THE RESOLUTION TO THE TEXAS COMPTROLLER.
SO WHAT DOES THE VENUE TAX ELECTION? THESE ARE TAXES THAT ARE REALLY APPLIED TO VISITORS AND ACTIVITIES THAT ARE RELATED TO THE VENUE TO ASSIST WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OR RENOVATION OF VENUE, KIND OF THE ONGOING MAINTENANCE. THESE ARE SHORT TERM MOTOR RENTAL VEHICLE TAX.
AT MAXIMUM BY STATE LAW, WE CAN GO UP TO 5%, AN INCREASE OF A HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX AT MAXIMUM AT 2%, A VENUE EVENT, PARKING TAX AT MAXIMUM $3 PER VEHICLE.
AGAIN, THESE ARE TAXES THAT ARE NOT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO ENFORCE TODAY, BUT BY THE PUBLIC'S VOTE, THESE WOULD BE TAXES THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE ENFORCED TO BRING IN ADDITIONAL REVENUE FROM NOT ONLY FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THE VENUE, BUT ALSO THE OVERALL MAINTENANCE OF THE VENUE.
THE LAST DAY TO CALL THE ELECTION IS AUGUST 17TH FOR A TENTATIVE ELECTION DATE OF NOVEMBER 3RD.
BUT AGAIN, THIS IS NOT CALLING THE ELECTION ITSELF.
THIS IS APPROVING THE RESOLUTION THAT GOES DOWN THE COMPTROLLER. IF THE COMPTROLLER DOES APPROVE THE RESOLUTION, IT WILL COME BACK BEFORE YOU, CITY COUNCIL TO ACTUALLY CALL THE ELECTION. SO COUNCIL, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
COUNCIL MEMBER KEHR. I'M JUST VALIDATING THE TAXES ARE BASICALLY FOR A TICKET HOLDER.
IS THAT RIGHT? IT APPLIES ONLY TO TICKET HOLDERS, A VISITOR OR TICKET HOLDER.
IF THEY WERE TO RENT A CAR IN PLANO, IT WOULD HAVE ADDITIONAL TAX.
SO POTENTIALLY REALLY KIND OF THE ACTIVITIES SURROUNDING THE ARENA AND ACTIVITIES ITSELF, BUT THEY MAY HAVE INFLUENCE IN TERMS OF JUST VISITORS ITSELF COMING TO PLANO AND PAYING THOSE ADDITIONAL TAXES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU DOUG. WE HAVE SOME SPEAKERS FOR THIS.
WE DO. WE HAVE FOUR SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM. THE FIRST ONE IS CAMILLE HALL FOLLOWED BY KAREN DUBROW.
GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS CAMILLE HALL AND I LIVE IN PLANO AND WEST PLANO.
AND GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. MR. MAYOR PRO TEM, MR. MAYOR, DEPUTY MAYOR. PRO TEM. MR.. CITY MANAGER.
MISS. SECRETARY AND MISS DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY AND PLANO CITY COUNCIL.
I SUPPORT AGENDA NUMBER FOUR. ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A SERIOUS INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUE LIKE SOME OTHER PEOPLE HAVE MENTIONED, WITH THE STARS COMING TO WILLOUGHBY. AND MY RESEARCH REVEALS THAT THE AMERICAN AIRLINES CENTER HAS A CAPACITY FOR 18,532 SPECTATORS IN AN ICE HOCKEY GAME. THE DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY, DALLAS PARKWAY, PARKWOOD AND EVEN MIDWAY AND PRESTON ROADS CANNOT ACCOMMODATE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 10,000 AND 18,500 SPECTATORS. VEHICLES.
I CHECKED 140 FOOT DART BUS ONLY HOLDS 20 PASSENGERS, AND AT THAT RATE IT WOULD TAKE 927 BUSSES.
IF EACH ONE WAS FILLED WITH 20 PASSENGERS. YOU KNOW THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE.
AND THEN THE SMALLER BUS IS EVEN HELD LESS AT 17 PASSENGERS.
ALTHOUGH THE CITY OF PLANO WILL PAY MORE THAN 120 MILLION TO DART THIS YEAR, DART WILL BE UNABLE TO PROVIDE THE NECESSARY TRANSPORTATION TO AND FROM THE PROPOSED STARS ARENA. WEST PLANO DOESN'T HAVE THE OPTION OF DART RAIL.
I UNDERSTAND THAT DART RAIL AND THE WEST PLANO AREA IS NOT ON DARTS LONG RANGE PLAN.
I THINK THAT'S CORRECT INFORMATION. IF IT WERE AN OPTION.
I DO NOT BELIEVE THE CITIZENS OF WEST PLANO WOULD WANT DART RAIL AND ITS ACCOMPANYING CRIME ISSUES.
IN ADDITION, THE CITIES OF WEST PLANO WOULD WANT TO CONTINUE A BAN ON SHORT TERM RENTALS.
IN ADDITION, GAMES ARE GENERALLY HELD AT NIGHT.
THUS, THERE ARE MANY ADDITIONAL PARKING LOTS IN DOWNTOWN DALLAS AVAILABLE FOR THOSE FANS WHO WISH TO DRIVE THEIR OWN VEHICLES, AS THE MANY DOWNTOWN PARKING LOTS ARE EMPTY DURING THE EVENING.
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PLANO TO VOTE ON THE MATTER IS ESSENTIAL. THANK YOU.HI, I'M KAREN DEBRA AND I LIVE AT THE SOUTHEAST AREA OF PLANO PARKWAY IN THE TOLLWAY.
WE ARE NUMBER SIX IN THIS COUNTRY FOR BUSINESSES TO RELOCATE HERE BECAUSE PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE HERE.
OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS EXCELLENT. OUR BUSINESS PETITIONERS OFTEN DO NOT MEET THAT EXCELLENCE IN THAT THEY PROMISE TO IMPLEMENT PROTECTIONS FOR NEIGHBORHOODS BUT FAIL TO DO SO. OUR CITY HAS BEEN REMISS IN EXECUTING AGREEMENTS THAT PROTECT THE RESIDENTS FROM BUSINESSES.
I KNOW THIS FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, BEING THE HOA PRESIDENT OF STONE LAKE ESTATES FOR TOO MANY YEARS, AND WHEN SAINT ANDREW'S METHODIST CHURCH WANTED TO EXPAND, THEY PROMISED A HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL, AND I WORKED WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND SAW ALL THE PLANS RIGHT ALONG MY STREET, IN THE NEXT STREET AND ALL THROUGH MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
THAT HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL NEVER HAPPENED, AND THE CITY LEADERS DID NOT ENFORCE IT.
OBSOLESCENCE? WE ALSO HAD WALMART. NOW, WALMART HAS BEEN A MUCH BETTER PARTNER WITH US IN THAT. KAREN. YES, YOU GOT TO YOU GOT TO STAY ON THE AGENDA ITEM.
OKAY. PLEASE. I MEANT TO BE ON AGENDA ITEM THREE.
OKAY. LET'S TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC. I UNDERSTAND FROM A KNOWLEDGEABLE RESOURCE THAT THE WILLOW BEND AREA OF HOME DEPOT MIGHT BE A TEARDOWN OPPORTUNITY FOR FOR PARKING.
WE DON'T WANT THAT. WE DEFINITELY DON'T WANT THAT.
SO WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS MENTIONED TONIGHT, THE PARKING, THE NOISE, THE, THE PROXIMITY TO OUR RESIDENCES THAT WE DID NOT BUY ON TO WHEN WE BOUGHT OUR HOMES. WE WANT YOU TO PAY ATTENTION.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU [APPLAUSE]. THE NEXT SPEAKER IS JENNIFER GROSSMAN, FOLLOWED BY JOSEPH LANDERS.
THE ONLY THING GOOD ABOUT THIS RESOLUTION IS WE GET TO VOTE ON IT AS RESIDENTS.
MOST OF THE FUNDING FOR THIS ARENA WILL COME FROM A $700 MILLION BOND.
THE REST WILL COME FROM AN INCREASE IN HOTEL MOTEL TAXES OF 15%.
NOW, WHEN MY HUSBAND'S PATIENTS WHO FLY IN FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD FOR THEIR LONG COVID TREATMENTS COME IN, THEIR HOTEL BILLS ARE GOING TO GO UP. MY HUSBAND HAS PROBABLY DONE A LOT OF FOR THE TOURISM OF THE WEST SIDE OF PLANO.
BUT HE'S GOTTEN NOTHING FROM THIS CITY BUT A HEADACHE.
ALSO THE RENTAL CAR THAT THEY'LL HAVE TO HAVE THERE.
THERE WILL BE A 10% TAX RATE ON EVENT TICKETS.
THE STARS WILL ONLY BE PAYING 300 MILLION FOR THIS ARENA.
THE ONLY. LIKE I SAID, THE ONLY GOOD THING IS THE RESIDENTS GET TO VOTE.
STUDY AFTER STUDY AFTER STUDY FOR 50 YEARS. ALL MAKE IT CLEAR.
THEY ALL SAY WHEN CITIES DO THIS, THEY LOSE. THEY LOSE FINANCIALLY, THEY LOSE ECONOMICALLY.
AND THE ONLY WINNER IS THE TEAM. EVERYONE THINKS IT WILL BE GREAT FOR THE CITY AT FIRST.
IT WILL BRING BUSINESS AND TOURISM, BUT IT DOESN'T.
STUDIES FIND EVENT DAY BUSINESS IN THE AREA GOES DOWN.
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WHY? BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WHO SHOP AT THE STORES LIKE HOME DEPOT AND MICHAELS AVOID THE AREAS ON EVENT DAYS LIKE THE PLAGUE.THOSE THAT COME TO THE EVENTS DON'T STOP IN AT PETSMART OR OTHER RETAIL STORES.
THEY GO TO THE EVENT AND THEN THEY GO HOME. THEY STAY WITHIN THE COMPLEX.
SO WHILE BUSINESS MAY BE GREAT IN THE COMPLEX OUTSIDE IT, IT TANKS.
HAVE YOU READ ANY OF THESE STUDIES? CRIME, DRUNK DRIVING AND TRAFFIC ALL GO UP DURING EVENT DAYS.
YET, EVEN WITH ALL THE STUDIES AND ECONOMIC EVIDENCE THAT THIS ARENA WILL BE A LOSS FOR THE CITY.
OUR COUNCIL IS VOTING ON BUILDING ONE WITH. 20S.
ONE THAT THE TAXPAYERS WILL HAVE TO PAY BACK.
THE DEFINITION OF INSANITY IS DOING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AND EXPECTING A DIFFERENT RESULT.
SO, COUNCIL, ARE YOU INSANE? [APPLAUSE] I YIELD MY TIME. THANK YOU. IS THAT IT? ALL RIGHT. SO, ANY COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? I HAVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
COUNCIL MEMBER TWO MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION, A SECOND TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR, PLEASE VOTE.
MOTION PASSED 8 TO 0. THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM. CONSIDERATION TO APPROVE RFB NUMBER
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Consideration to approve RFB No. 2026-0159-B Vehicle Detection System Upgrade (Citywide), Project No. TP-S-00013, for the Engineering Department to Albatross Construction LLC in the amount of $8,500,000; and authorizing the City Manager to execute all necessary documents.
]2026-159B VEHICLE DETECTION SYSTEM UPGRADE CITYWIDE.PROJECT NUMBER TPS00013 FOR THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT TO ALBATROSS CONSTRUCTION LLC IN THE AMOUNT OF $8,500,000 AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS.
GOOD EVENING COUNCIL CALEB THORNHILL, DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING.
TONIGHT'S ITEM IS TO CONSIDERATION FOR A REQUEST FOR BIDS FOR THE VEHICLE DETECTION SYSTEM.
SO VEHICLE DETECTION, THIS WILL BE AT ALL 278 LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
ALL SIGNALIZED INTERSECTIONS. THE BID CAME IN AT 8.5 MILLION, WHICH IS RIGHT IN OUR BUDGET RANGE.
FROM AN IMPROVEMENT STANDPOINT, THESE WILL BE AT EACH OF OUR SIGNALS.
LIKE THE NAME SAYS, IT'S VEHICLE DETECTION. IT HELPS IMPROVE THE SIGNAL TIMING AT OUR LOCATIONS, IMPROVE CONGESTION. WE HAVE SIGNALS WITH THE AGED SYSTEM TODAY.
YOU KNOW, TECHNOLOGY GETS OLD VERY QUICKLY. MOST OF OUR EQUIPMENT IS EXCEEDING THE 20 YEAR LIFE.
SO THIS WILL BE GOING IN AND REPLACE THEM. THIS IS A TURNKEY PROJECT WHICH MEANS IT INCLUDES THE PURCHASE OF THE CAMERAS, THE ANY CABLING, WIRING CONDUIT, THE INSTALLATION, THE TESTING, THE BALANCING OF ALL THE EQUIPMENT.
AND WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
ALL RIGHT. ANY ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ITEM.
ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS. THE FIRST ONE IS SEAN MCKENNA AND HE'S FOLLOWED BY JOSEPH LANNERS.
HI. SO I SUPPORT PROCURING NEW TRAFFIC CAMERAS AS LONG AS THEY DETECT CYCLISTS AT TRAFFIC SIGNALS.
IF YOU LOOK AT HERE AT THE COMPUTER VISION BOXES, THEY DON'T.
I REGULARLY CYCLE ON THE DESIGNATED ON ROAD PLANO CYCLING ROUTES, AND OFTEN YOU WILL COME TO A SIGNAL THAT WILL REFUSE TO CHANGE WHEN YOU ARE WAITING AT THE SIGNAL AS A CYCLIST. THE BIGGEST OFFENDER ON THE ROUTE I TAKE IS THE SIGNAL AT THE INTERSECTION OF INDEPENDENCE AND PARK HAVEN.
IF I AM THE ONLY ONE WAITING AT THE INTERSECTION IF I AM A CYCLIST.
I POINTED OUT THIS ISSUE MULTIPLE TIMES TO EMAILS TO COUNCIL.
YOU SAID YOU READ THEM AND TO FIX IT PLANO, AND I HAVE NOT GOTTEN NOTHING BUT SILENCE IN RESPONSE.
I HOPE THE NEW TRAFFIC CAMERAS WILL ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF IGNORING CYCLISTS AT TRAFFIC SIGNALS.
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MULTI-USE PATHS SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE SIGNALS.THANK YOU, THANK YOU. JOSEPH LANDERS AGAIN, CITY OF PLANO RESIDENT. I AM THRILLED THAT YOU'RE INVESTING IN TECHNOLOGY TO ASSIST WITH TRAFFIC.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. AND WITH THIS TYPE OF AI, VIDEO ANALYTICS CAPABILITIES AND SERVERS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PROCESS THIS TYPE OF DATA, I SUSPECT IT WON'T BE VERY DIFFICULT TO ADD CYCLISTS AND PEDESTRIANS TO THINGS THAT ARE RECOGNIZED.
THAT'S BEEN AVAILABLE TECHNOLOGY FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY MORE SPEAKERS? ARE THERE NONE.
MR. MAYOR, CAN I ASK CALEB A QUESTION? SURE. THANK YOU.
CALEB. WE HEARD OUR CITIZEN HERE ABOUT THE CYCLISTS.
CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT WITH THIS PROPOSED SYSTEM? YEAH. THE SYSTEM WILL DETECT CYCLISTS AND PEDESTRIANS, BUT THERE'S NONE IN THIS PICTURE, SO IT WILL BE.
OKAY. THANK YOU. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.
WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE AS PRESENTED.
OKAY. SO I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE AGENDA NUMBER FIVE.
PLEASE VOTE. MOTION PASSES 8 TO 0. THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS.
MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.