[CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:06] I NOW DECLARE THAT THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL IS RECONVENED IN OPEN SESSION, THAT ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT. WE'LL BEGIN TONIGHT'S REGULAR MEETING WITH THE INVOCATION LED BY NEXTGEN PASTOR LAUREN VAN HOY WITH LEGACY CHURCH AND THE PLEDGES LED BY SCOUT TROOP 380. WOULD YOU PLEASE RISE? THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO BE HERE AND OPEN WITH A SHORT WORD OF PRAYER, IF THAT IS OKAY. SO I'M JUST GOING TO GET TO IT. DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, WE JUST THANK YOU SO MUCH THAT WE GET TO GATHER HERE TOGETHER AND IN A DESIRE TO SEE THE CITY OF PLANO AND THEIR RESIDENTS THRIVE. AND WE JUST THANK YOU FOR THESE LEADERS WHO ARE HERE MAKING DECISIONS. AND WE JUST PRAY THAT YOU GIVE WISDOM AND INTEGRITY AND THAT YOU WOULD JUST GIVE THEM THAT EVERYTHING THEY NEED TO MAKE THE DECISIONS THAT THEY NEED TO MAKE. AND WE JUST THANK YOU FOR THEIR HARD WORK THAT THEY DO AND DO DAY IN AND DAY OUT TO MAKE THIS PLACE A WONDERFUL PLACE TO LIVE IN PLANO. AND SO WE JUST PRAY THAT YOU WOULD GIVE THEM CLARITY IN MOMENTS OF DIFFICULTY. AND WE GIVE THEM WISDOM WHEN THEY NEED TO KNOW WHAT DIRECTION TO GO. AND WE JUST PRAY THAT THIS WOULD BE A CITY THAT IS THRIVING AND THAT CARES FOR THE PEOPLE. WELL, AND SO WE JUST THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME. WE PRAY THAT YOU WOULD BE OVER THIS MEETING AND YOU WOULD GUIDE AND GIVE WISDOM AS WE SPEAK. AMEN. THANK YOU. YOU GUYS, COME ON DOWN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS. ONE STATE, UNDER GOD, ONE INDIVISIBLE. THANK YOU. BE SEATED. ALL RIGHT, EVERYBODY. EVERYBODY TAKE ONE OF THESE. THANK YOU. YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A BACKPACK FOR THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, BUT PUT IT ON YOUR BACKPACK. THANKS. ALL RIGHT. DID YOU GET ONE? OKAY. YOU GUYS. GOOD. THANK YOU. EVERYBODY GOT ONE? SURE. OKAY, LET'S TAKE A PICTURE. COME HERE. OKAY. YEAH! YEAH. COME ON IN. COME ON IN. YOU GUYS GET IN THE PICTURE, TOO, PLEASE. WE CAN. OKAY. ARE WE GOOD? YEAH. YEAH. WHAT DO YOU WANT? OKAY. DO YOU WANT. DO YOU MIND TAKING USING HER HER PHONE? OF COURSE. I WANT YOU IN THE PICTURE. OUR PHOTOGRAPHER. THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR HAVING US. THANK YOU. YOU BET. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OH. OH, OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. OKAY, MOVING ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. THE CONSENT AGENDA. [CONSENT AGENDA] THE CONSENT AGENDA WILL BE ACTED UPON IN ONE MOTION AND CONTAINS ITEMS WHICH ARE ROUTINE AND TYPICALLY NONCONTROVERSIAL. ITEMS MAY BE REMOVED FROM THIS AGENDA FOR INDIVIDUAL DISCUSSION BY COUNCIL MEMBER, THE CITY MANAGER AND CITIZENS. [00:05:02] THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL ESTABLISH TIME LIMITS BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKER REQUESTS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO WE WE DO HAVE TWO ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN PULLED FOR SPEAKER TO TALK TO THAT WOULD BE D AND G. JUST WANTED TO LET COUNCIL MEMBERS KNOW THAT. DO I HAVE A MOTION? MR. MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE EXCEPTION OF REMOVING ITEMS D AND G. I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. ALL RIGHT. SO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE EXCEPTION OF D AND G. PLEASE VOTE. OKAY. MOTION PASSES 8 TO 0. THANK YOU. ITEM D. [(d)   To approve the renewal of the Pecan Hollow Golf Course and Pro Shop Management Services Agreement for four (4) years with an option for one four (4) year automatic renewal from Plano Golf Course, Inc. dba Pecan Hollow Golf for the Parks & Recreation Department; and authorizing the City Manager to execute all necessary documents. (Contract No. 2022-0458-AC, Modification No. 1) ] ITEM D, TO APPROVE THE RENEWAL OF THE PECAN HOLLOW GOLF COURSE AND PRO SHOP MANAGEMENT SERVICES AGREEMENT FOR FOUR YEARS, WITH AN OPTION FOR ONE FOUR YEAR AUTOMATIC RENEWAL, RENEWAL FROM PLANO GOLF COURSE INCORPORATED. DOING BUSINESS AS PECAN HOLLOW GOLF FOR THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS. BILL LYLE. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. I'VE BEEN AROUND SO LONG, ISSUES COME BACK. I THINK I SPOKE TO THIS ONE FOUR YEARS AGO, BUT WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH HERE IS A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING, BECAUSE IT SAYS IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT THERE'S AN OPTION FOR A FOUR YEAR RENEWAL WITH AN AUTOMATIC FOUR YEAR RENEWAL. AND SO I DON'T KNOW, THE FOUR PLUS FOUR EQUALS EIGHT TO ME. YOU ADD ON TOP OF THAT THAT THE SAME GROUP OR THE SAME INDIVIDUAL HAS HAD THIS CONTRACT SINCE 1994. SO HE'S HAD THE CONTRACT TO MAINTAIN THE GOLF COURSE FOR 32 YEARS. AND WE'RE GIVING HIM ANOTHER FOUR FOUR WITH ANOTHER AUTOMATIC FOUR. SO THAT 40 WHEN IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE STAFF THINKS THIS IS OF SUCH IMPORTANCE THAT THEY BROUGHT IT TO YOU ON MAY 26 WHEN THE CURRENT CONTRACT CONTRACT EXPIRES ON JUNE 15TH. I GUESS THERE WAS REALLY NO EXPECTATION THAT Y'ALL WERE GOING TO HAVE QUESTIONS OR THAT Y'ALL WOULD GO A DIFFERENT DIRECTION. I MEAN, WHY WOULD YOU? IT'S BEEN 32 YEARS. I HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS. LIKE, DOES THE GUY PAY RENT? DOES HE PAY ANY OF THE ELECTRIC BILL FOR THE RANGE BALLS THAT ARE HE'S MAKING 95% OF THE INCOME. THIS DEALS LIKE REALLY SIMPLE. THE GOLF COURSE GETS 100% OF THE GREEN FEES. AND THEN Y'ALL GET 5% OF EVERYTHING ELSE OUT THERE. BUT WHERE ARE THE NUMBERS? WHERE ARE THE AUDITS? HOW MANY HOT DOGS GOT SOLD? HOW MANY RANGE BALLS GOT SOLD? WHAT'S THE TOTAL REVENUE? WHAT'S THE 5% SPLIT? WHAT'S HIS 95%? WHAT'S THE SUCCESSION PLAN? THE GUY'S BEEN DOING THIS FOR 32 YEARS. I'M NOT SAYING HE'S DOING A BAD JOB. I'M JUST SAYING, WHEN SHOULD WE LOOK AT WHAT COMPETITION WOULD BRING? WHEN SHOULD WE GIVE SOMEONE ELSE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THE JOB? I MEAN, I THINK THESE ARE IMPORTANT QUESTIONS FOR YOU GUYS TO ASK US. HOW MUCH MONEY DOES HE MAKE? WHAT IS THE THE THE REVENUE? WHAT HAPPENS IF HE'S GONE? ANYWAY, I'M REPETITIVE AT THIS POINT. I JUST THINK THAT 32 YEARS IS A LONG TIME TO NOT EVER CONSIDER ANOTHER OPTION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE BEST THING GOING. THANK YOU. RON. YEAH. DO YOU MIND JUST ADDRESSING. SURE. RON SMITH, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR. IF THERE ARE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, I'LL DO MY BEST TO ANSWER THOSE. MARIA. OKAY. I DO HAVE QUESTIONS. SO WITH REGARD TO THIS SPECIFIC COMPANY WHO'S BEEN DOING THE MANAGING SERVICE THROUGHOUT THE TIME THAT WE'VE, WE'VE EMPLOYED HAS THERE BEEN ANY COMPLAINTS AS [00:10:05] TO THE SERVICES THAT'S BEEN OFFERED? HAS THERE BEEN OTHER PEOPLE WHO HAVE SHOWN AN INTEREST IN WANTING TO BID FOR THE CONTRACT? TWO DIFFERENT QUESTIONS. YEAH. THE FIRST QUESTION COMPLAINTS FROM THE PATRONS, MINIMAL. I HAVE NOT HEARD OF ANY COMPLAINTS WITH THE WAY THE COURSE IS OPERATED. SO THE THE VENDOR IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE OPERATION. THE CITY IS 100% RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THE COURSE. I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY MEANINGFUL OR SIGNIFICANT OR VOLUME OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT HOW THE COURSE IS OPERATED. I BELIEVE EVERYONE'S VERY SATISFIED WITH THE OPERATION. AND THE SECOND QUESTION, REMIND ME WHAT THAT WAS. AGAIN, WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S BEEN ANY INTEREST IN BIDDING FOR THIS TYPE OF POSITION? YEAH, I HAVEN'T BEEN CONTACTED BY ANY VENDORS ASKING TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BID ON THIS SERVICE. I THINK THAT MOST PEOPLE IN THE REGION RECOGNIZE THAT PECAN HOLLOW IS OPERATED AT A REALLY HIGH PROFESSIONAL LEVEL, AND EVERYONE'S SATISFIED WITH THE WAY IT IS OPERATED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, THANKS. DOCTOR SMITH, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AGAIN. CAN YOU PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ON HOW THE GOLF PRO, HOW HE'S COMPENSATED FOR HIS SERVICES OUT THERE? SURE. YES. SO THE CITY OF PLANO RECEIVES 100% OF THE GREENS FEES, AND IT IS DEPOSITED INTO AN ENTERPRISE FUND, WHICH WE REFER TO AS THE GOLF FUND. ZERO OF THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND OR TAXPAYER DOLLARS GO TO MAINTAIN PECAN HOLLOW. SO THE BEAUTIFUL COURSE THAT PEOPLE PLAY AT, MAINTAINED 100% AT THE COST OF THE GOLFERS THEMSELVES. NO TAXPAYER THAT IS DISINTERESTED IN GOLF PAYS ANYTHING TO MAINTAIN PECAN HOLLOW. THE OPERATION IS RUN BY THE VENDOR. HE BEARS ALL OVERHEAD, HE BEARS ALL RISK, AND HE RECEIVES 90% OF THE REVENUE FOR THOSE OPERATIONS. AND THE CITY GETS 5% 2025. THAT OPERATION CUT WAS JUST OVER 100,000. SO 100% OF THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT BEAUTIFUL COURSE PAID BY THE GOLFERS, ZERO TAX DOLLARS FROM THE RESIDENTS THAT DON'T PLAY GOLF, PLUS AN EXTRA 100,000 IN OUR 5% TAKE. WE BEAR NO RISK. THE COURSE IS BEAUTIFUL, THE PARTICIPANTS VERY SATISFIED. SO STAFF DOES FEEL THAT THIS IS STILL A REALLY GOOD MECHANISM FOR US TO PROVIDE EXCELLENT MUNICIPAL GOLF TO THE PLANO RESIDENT. SO FURTHER TO DETAIL, GET INTO THE WEEDS HERE. THE SUPERINTENDENTS. PART OF THE OF THE COURSE IS MAINTAINED BY CITY OF PLANO STAFF WHO ARE REIMBURSED BASICALLY THROUGH THIS GOLF, THROUGH THE FEES. YEAH. NOT JUST SO THEY'RE NOT REIMBURSED WHAT THE GOLF FUND THROUGH THOSE GREEN FEES PAYS ALL THE SALARY OF OUR SUPERINTENDENT AND HIS EIGHT EMPLOYEES, ALL OF THEIR RETIREMENT BENEFITS, ALL OF THEIR MEDICAL BENEFITS IS PAID THROUGH THE GOLF FUND. OKAY. AND THOSE ARE GREEN FEES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO HE GETS 100% OF THE CART FEES. HE GETS 100% OF ALL OPERATIONS EXCEPT FOR OUR 5%. SO 95 OF ALL THE OPERATIONS GOES TO THE GOLF PRO, AND THE CITY GETS ITS 5% RETURN. AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RANGE BALLS, MERCH, MERCH. THAT'S CORRECT. HOT DOGS. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY HOT DOGS ARE SOLD, BUT WE CAN FIGURE THAT OUT. BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S HOW IT ALL COMES OUT. OKAY. THE THE THE GOLF CARTS, THE MAINTENANCE OF THOSE, THE ACQUISITION OF THOSE, ALL OF THE OPERATION EXPENSE EXCEPT FOR THE CITY'S 5% THAT WE GET IN THE REVENUE IS AND HIS EMPLOYEES, I THINK HE'S GOT 40 SOME ODD EMPLOYEES. HE'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR SALARIES, HIS OWN SALARY, RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY BENEFITS THAT HE PROVIDES HIS EMPLOYEES. ALL OF THAT OVERHEAD IS ON HIM, NOT THE CITY. OKAY, ONE LAST QUESTION. HOW DOES THIS COURSE RANK TO OTHER PUBLIC COURSES, CITY PUBLIC COURSES IN THE STATE OF TEXAS? WELL, ACCORDING TO A PUBLICATION A FEW YEARS AGO, TEXAS MONTHLY RANKS IT AMONG THE TOP MUNICIPAL COURSES IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. WE'RE PROUD OF THAT. ONE MORE QUESTION, MR. MAYOR. I MAKE A MOTION. WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEM D. I JUST HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION BEFORE I. I'LL SECOND. OH, OKAY. OKAY. YEAH. SO ONE MORE ISSUE ABOUT THE OPTION FOR ADDITIONAL FOUR YEARS AUTOMATIC RENEWAL. SO THIS IS SO ONCE YOU SIGN THE CONTRACT FOR FOUR YEARS, DOES IT, IT DOESN'T JUST AUTOMATICALLY CORRECT. IT WILL COME BACK TO COUNCIL AT THAT FOUR YEAR TERM. AND THEN IT WILL BE AT THAT TIME CONFIRMED WHETHER OR NOT ANOTHER FOUR YEARS WILL BE WILL BE EXERCISED BY, [00:15:07] BY COUNCIL. THAT'S CORRECT. SO IT'S NOT REALLY JUST AN AUTOMATIC RENEWAL LIKE WHAT IT SEEMS TO BE SAYING THERE. IS THAT RIGHT? YES WE CAN. WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THAT LANGUAGE EXACTLY RIGHT. BUT THE INTENT IS FOUR YEARS WITH A FOUR YEAR OPTION THAT WOULD COME TO COUNCIL FOR THAT. WITH THE APPROVAL OF COUNCIL, BASICALLY. THAT'S CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. SO I'LL SECOND. OKAY. THANK YOU RON. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE ITEM D ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. PLEASE VOTE. THANK YOU. MOTION PASSES 8 TO 0. ITEM G. RIGHT. YEAH. [(g)   To approve an expenditure for the emergency repair of Fire Ladder Truck 5 in the amount of $280,000 from Siddons-Martin for Fleet Services; and authorizing the City Manager to execute all necessary documents. ] ITEM G TO APPROVE AN EXPENDITURE FOR THE EMERGENCY REPAIR OF FIRE LADDER TRUCK FIVE IN THE AMOUNT OF 280,000 FROM SIDDONS MARTIN FOR FLEET SERVICES. AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS. AND BILL LYLE IS THE SPEAKER ON THIS ONE AS WELL. JUST A QUICK FOLLOW UP THERE ON YOUR CONSENT AGENDA. THERE WAS LIKE A $750,000 CHANGE ORDER TO A $2 MILLION REPAIR TO HOLE SIXES AND SEVEN. I DON'T THINK THAT CAME OUT OF GREEN FEES, BUT MAYBE THE REST OF THE STUFF DOES ON THIS ITEM. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FIXING A FIRE TRUCK THAT RAN INTO A TREE. IT'S LABELED AS AN EMERGENCY REPAIR, BUT THE STAFF REPORT GOES ON TO SAY THAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE SIX MONTHS TO GET THE PARTS, AND THEN 2 TO 3 MONTHS TO FIX IT. AND THE STAFF REPORT ALSO SAYS THAT THAT IT'S COVERED UNDER AN INSURANCE POLICY. THE REPAIR ESTIMATE IS LIKE 224,000. BUT THEY WANT YOU ALL TO APPROVE 280,000. THE DAMAGE TO THE TRUCK HAPPENED ON APRIL 6TH. AND SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND. THAT'S LIKE ALMOST 60 DAYS NEXT WEEK. I DON'T LIKE WHEN I GET IN AN ACCIDENT OR ONE OF MY EQUIPMENT PIECES IS STOLEN. TRAVELERS HAS BEEN AN INSURANCE COMPANY FOR ME. 60 DAYS IS ENOUGH TIME TO GET THE ESTIMATE AND FOR THEM TO TAKE LIABILITY AND FOR THEM TO APPROVE THE REPAIRS AND ORDER THE STUFF. SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE CITY IS BEING ASKED TO COME UP WITH ANY OF THE MONEY OTHER THAN THE DEDUCTIBLE. AND THEN THEY WANT YOU TO APPROVE LIKE AN EXTRA 50,000 JUST IN CASE. BUT THE WAY THAT HAPPENS IS YOU GO BACK AND YOU HAVE A SUPPLEMENTAL ESTIMATE FROM THE SUPPLIER THAT IF THERE'S OTHER DAMAGES THAT WERE UNFORESEEN, THE INSURANCE COMPANY IS ON THE HOOK FOR MORE MONEY. AND SO IT'S REALLY CONFUSING TO ME AS TO WHY CITY MONEY IS INVOLVED AT ALL OTHER THAN THE DEDUCTIBLE. AND THEN BEYOND THAT I KNOW THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE AMBULANCE HAVE COME UP WITH DIFFERENT WAYS TO SERVICE PEOPLE THAT USE THE SERVICE A LOT, LIKE WITH SMALLER VEHICLES AND SO FORTH. I'M JUST WONDERING IF A BROADER CONVERSATION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LIKE WAS THE LADDER TRUCK, THIS IS REALLY, REALLY BIG APPARATUS GOING THROUGH AN APARTMENT COMPLEX. THE, THE TURNABOUT WAS IN AN APARTMENT COMPLEX WHERE THIS HAPPENED. AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF IF THERE'S NOT A BROADER DISCUSSION WHERE WE COULD SERVE. YOU KNOW, IF THE CAT WAS STUCK IN A TREE AND YOU NEEDED THE LADDER, I GUESS IT'S GOT TO GO IN THERE. BUT IF IT WAS SOMETHING ELSE, MAYBE THE APPARATUS SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN IN THE APARTMENT COMPLEX AT ALL. SO ANYWAY, I'M SURE THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WILL FIGURE THAT OUT, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE MONEY AND WHY THE INSURANCE COMPANY ISN'T JUST HANDLING THIS. THANK YOU. CHIEF. THANK YOU. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I THINK ANDREW MAY HAVE THE ANSWER TO THE FIRST PART OF IT, BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANYTHING. ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE FOR ME, THOUGH? JUST JUST THE HOW THE FINANCIAL ASPECT WORKS ON ON THIS CLAIM. SURE. SO THE RISK MANAGER. YEAH, RISK MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT HANDLES THE INSURANCE CLAIMS. SO WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY INVOLVED IN THAT PART. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE'RE JUST REQUIRED TO PAY IT UP FRONT. AND THEN THE RISK THE RISK DEPARTMENT WOULD RECEIVE THE REIMBURSEMENT BACK TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT FUND. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY. I'M SORRY. I'M GOING TO SEE IF I UNDERSTAND. SO BASICALLY, IF WE WE HAVE DAMAGES, WE HAVE TO PAY IT FIRST. [00:20:01] THE INSURANCE COMPANY IS NOT GOING TO UPFRONT THE MONEY BECAUSE WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT DAMAGES NEEDS TO BE FIXED AND WHAT REPAIR NEEDS TO BE COMPLETED. AND THEN ONCE WE GET THAT DONE AND WE NEED THE MONEY UP FRONT, BECAUSE WE NEED TO PAY THESE REPAIR PEOPLE TO, TO, TO ACTUALLY MAKE THE REPAIR. AM I CORRECT ABOUT THAT? YES. WE'RE COMING TO YOU TO PAY THE INITIAL UPFRONT COST, AND THEN IT WILL GO THROUGH THE REIMBURSEMENT PROCESS THROUGH OUR INSURANCE CARRIER. AND THEN ONCE THE REIMBURSEMENT IS COMPLETED THAT WHERE DOES THAT MONEY GO THEN? SO WHAT YOU'RE BEING ASKED TO APPROVE WOULD BE PAYING OUT OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S FUND, AND SO IT WOULD BE REIMBURSED BACK TO THAT. OKAY. TO THE SAME FIRE DEPARTMENT FUND. CORRECT. SO WHATEVER. I MEAN, IT'S NOT GOING TO JUST SORT OF GO AWAY AND, AND TO A NEVER NEVER LAND. THAT'S CORRECT. IT WOULD BE REIMBURSED BACK TO THE SAME FUND THAT PAYS FOR THE INITIAL PURCHASE. GOT IT. OKAY. I MOVE TO APPROVE. AND CHIEF, CAN YOU EXPLAIN REAL QUICK THE COMPLEXITY OF OF WHAT DAMAGE LIKE THIS TO THIS APPARATUS CAUSES AND WHAT THE EVALUATION HAS TO BE DONE, BECAUSE THIS IS THIS IS NOT A SIMPLE PIECE OF APPARATUS THAT. NO, YOU'RE YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. THAT'S PART OF THE, THE CHALLENGE BECAUSE A LOT OF THE, THE THINGS ON THESE APPARATUS ARE CUSTOM MADE. AND SO IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT LIKE YOU CAN JUST SAY, HEY, I WANT, I NEED ANOTHER LADDER WITH THE PLATFORM ATTACHED TO IT. IT TAKES MONTHS TO, TO BUILD THOSE. AND THAT'S PART OF THE REASON RIGHT NOW. AND I KNOW YOU ALL ARE VERY AWARE OF THIS. SOMETIMES IT TAKES 3 TO 4 YEARS FOR US TO GET AN APPARATUS ONCE WE'VE ORDERED IT, BECAUSE THE PROCESS JUST TAKES A LONG TIME. AND A LOT OF THE STUFF THERE, ESPECIALLY THE LADDER LIKE THAT CUSTOM MADE. SO THEY'VE GOT TO GO IN AND REBUILD THAT PIECE OF IT IN ORDER FOR, FOR US TO BE ABLE TO PUT THE UNIT BACK IN SERVICE AND IT GOES BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MANUFACTURER. YES, SIR. YEAH. WHICH IS IN WISCONSIN, RIGHT. SO I HAVE A MOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. OKAY. SO I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE ITEM G ON THE CONSENT. PLEASE VOTE. MOTION PASSES. 8 TO 0. THANK YOU. [(1)   Consideration to approve RFQ No. 2026-0152-B Construction Manager-At-Risk for the City of Plano Public Safety Campus for Special Projects to Swinerton Builders in the amount of $140,000,000; and authorizing the City Manager to execute all necessary documents. ] NEXT ITEM IS ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. APPLICANTS ARE LIMITED TO 15 MINUTES PRESENTATION TIME WITH A FIVE MINUTE REBUTTAL IF NEEDED. REMAINING SPEAKERS ARE LIMITED TO 30 TOTAL MINUTES OF TESTIMONY TIME, WITH THREE MINUTES ASSIGNED FOR SPEAKER. THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY AMEND THESE TIMES AS DEEMED NECESSARY. NON PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL PERMIT PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA NOT POSTED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL ESTABLISH TIME LIMITS BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKER REQUESTS, LENGTH OF THE AGENDA, AND TO INSURE MEETING EFFICIENCY, AND MAY INCLUDE A CUMULATIVE TIME LIMIT. SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER THE REQUESTS ARE RECEIVED UNTIL THE CUMULATIVE TIME IS EXHAUSTED. ITEM NUMBER ONE, CONSIDERATION TO APPROVE RFQ NUMBER 2026-152-B. CONSTRUCTION MANAGER-AT-RISK FOR THE CITY OF PLANO PUBLIC SAFETY CAMPUS FOR SPECIAL PRO. EXCUSE ME. SPECIAL PROJECTS TO SWINERTON BUILDERS IN THE AMOUNT OF $140 MILLION AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS. GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL. PETER BRASTER, DIRECTOR OF SPECIAL PROJECTS. AS YOU KNOW, SPECIAL PROJECTS IS NOW IN CHARGE OF DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF ALL NEW CITY FACILITIES. OUR FIRST ONE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF BOTH ARCHITECTURE, WHICH YOU'VE APPROVED IN THE PAST AND NOW CONSTRUCTOR IS THE WHAT WE'RE CALLING THE PUBLIC SAFETY CAMPUS, WHICH IS THAT COMBINED SITE OF OF 911 POLICE HEADQUARTERS AND FIRE STATION 14. THIS IS ON THE CORNER OF ALMA AND PARK, RIGHT ACROSS FROM PISD'S CTE CENTER. THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK. I WANTED TO EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT ON HOW WE CONTRACT. WE'VE DONE THIS BEFORE, BUT CERTAINLY NOT TO THIS EXTENT. SO CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK IS JUST AN ALTERNATIVE DELIVERY METHOD THAT THE STATE HAS GRANTED US. AND WE CAN USE WHERE WE PICK THE BEST CONTRACTOR TO DO THE WORK. AND SO THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE DID. THE PROCESS IS COLLABORATIVE, SO THEY WILL WORK HAND IN HAND WITH THE SORRY. SORRY. THANK YOU. THEY'LL WORK HAND IN HAND WITH THE ARCHITECT THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESS. IN THE CONTRACT, THAT'S, THE $50,000 WILL COVER THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESS HAND IN HAND WITH THE ARCHITECT. THEY'LL BE DOING MULTIPLE ESTIMATES ON CONSTRUCTION, AND WE WILL AND HELP VALUE ENGINEER THE ENTIRE CAMPUS. AND SO THE BONUS OF THAT IS YOU GET A REALLY GREAT PRICE AT THE END. THAT IS CALLED A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE. AND WHAT YOU'RE APPROVING TONIGHT AT THE 140 MILLION IS A MAXIMUM BUDGET, [00:25:08] NOT A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE. THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE. ONE THE, THE BIG THING IS THE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE COMES BACK TO YOU AT THE END OF THE DESIGN WHEN WE'RE READY TO START CONSTRUCTION. AND THAT BID SET WILL THEN TELL YOU WHAT THE PRICE IS AND WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION. AND THAT'S A FUTURE ACTION. SO THERE IS THE PRE-CONSTRUCTION PHASE, WHICH IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO GET A WELL DESIGNED BUILDING THAT IS CONSTRUCTIBLE WITHOUT ANY SURPRISES DURING CONSTRUCTION. AND THEN WE MOVE ON TO CONSTRUCTION. THERE SHOULD BE NO SURPRISES DURING THAT EITHER, BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE WHOLE DESIGN PROCESS. THE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK PROCESS OF CONTRACTING. AND HERE'S ALL THE DIFFERENT PIECES AND PRICE THAT GOES INTO THAT GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE. AND NOTICE THAT THERE OWN A CONTINGENCY. THE CITY'S EXTRA IS NOT PART OF THAT GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE. BUT AGAIN, IT IS A WAY TO KEEP COSTS UNDER CONTROL AS WE MOVE FORWARD. AND THE KEY TAKEAWAYS IS WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO THIS. IT IS A TWO PHASE PART OF CONSTRUCTION. AND THE BIG THING IS THAT EVERYBODY, BOTH THE ARCHITECTS AND THE CONSTRUCTORS, ARE WORKING TOGETHER TO GET THE BEST PROJECT FOR THE BEST PRICE. TONIGHT, THE REQUEST IS TO APPROVE SWINERTON BUILDERS AS OUR CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK FOR THE CAMPUS PROJECT. AND HERE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WAS IN THE AGENDA, WHICH IS SETTING THE MAXIMUM CONSTRUCTION BUDGET AT 140 MILLION, WHICH DOES INCLUDE SWINERTON'S GENERAL CONDITIONS, WHICH YOU'VE SEEN IN THE PACKET. AND THAT'S THAT PRICE THAT WAS IN THERE. AND THEY DON'T GET PAID THAT UNTIL WE GO INTO CONSTRUCTION. AND THEN OF COURSE, BUT IT DOES. AGAIN, IT DOES NOT APPROVE THE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION, JUST THE BUDGET. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS. WE JUST THOUGHT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTOOD THIS WAS PART OF THE BOND ELECTION THAT WE THE APPROVED. AND THIS IS THIS IS ONE OF THE LARGER ITEMS ON THE BOND THAT THE VOTERS APPROVED. AND WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTOOD THE FUTURE OF HOW WE'RE GOING ABOUT IT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND TO BE CLEAR, IT'S ACTUALLY TWO PIECES OF THE BOND ELECTION. ONE FOR FIRE STATION 14, EXCUSE ME, AND ONE FOR THE HEADQUARTERS. MAYOR PRO TEM. OH, YEAH. WHICH ONE? [LAUGHS] EXCUSE ME. THE 500. THE $5,925,900 SWINERTON'S GENERAL CONDITIONS COSTS. THAT'S PAID INCREMENTALLY OVER THE LIFE OF THE CONSTRUCTION. IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE TELLING US IS WHAT THEIR GENERAL CONDITION COST. THAT'S REGARDLESS OF FEE AND REGARDLESS OF ANY CONTINGENCY THAT THEY BUILT IN THERE. IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY. SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FROM THEIR GENERAL COST. AND THEN WE HAVE THE DIRECT COSTS, WHICH IS THE BIG COMPONENT OF THIS, WHICH IS ALL MATERIAL LABOR, ETC., TO GET THIS COMPLETED. CORRECT? THAT'S RIGHT. AND PART OF THE CMAR BIDDING PROCESS FOR THIS RFQ, THEY HAD TO TELL US WHAT THEIR AND COMPETE ON THEIR, THREE GENERAL CONDITIONS AND YOU'LL SEE THAT RANKING IN THE PACKET. NOW, DID WE HAVE ANY CONDITIONS ON THIS WITH REGARDS TO SCHEDULE? BECAUSE AGAIN THEY ARE ASSUMING ALL THE RISK WITH REGARDS TO THE CONSTRUCTION ASPECT. BUT WE I HAVE SEEN IN THE PAST CMAR TYPE PROJECTS WHERE THEY TRY TO. IF IT'S DIFFERING SITE CONDITIONS, I CAN AGREE TO THAT. BUT IF THERE'S DELAYS DUE TO CONSTRUCTION, ARE WE. DO WE HAVE ANY PENALTIES IN THAT? DO WE HAVE ANY. DO WE GET. DO WE EVEN OFFER ANY INCENTIVES TO IMPROVE QUICKER? THERE ARE. THERE ARE NO INCENTIVES TO DO IT QUICKER. THERE ARE LIQUIDATED DAMAGES. OBVIOUSLY, THOSE ARE ACTUAL DAMAGES. I'VE BEEN SCHOOLED ON THAT BY OUR ATTORNEYS. SO THEIR ACTUAL DAMAGES, WE HAVE $1,000 IN THE CONTRACT A DAY, BUT WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO PROVE THAT DAMAGE. SO AND THEN WE ARE HOLDING THEM TO SCHEDULE. I'M LOOKING AT AN HOUR. RIGHT? YES. ANMAR HAMMEL IS BEHIND ME. HE'S OUR SENIOR CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AND HAS BEEN AMAZING TO WORK WITH DURING THIS WHOLE PROCESS. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. MR. MAYOR. OH. EXCUSE ME. I'M SORRY. COUNCIL MEMBER LAVINE. YEAH. QUICK QUESTION. PETER THIS IS THIS PERSON OR FIRM ALSO RESPONSIBLE AFTER THE BUILD AND THE OPENING IF WE FIND CONSTRUCTION DEFECTS OR THE LIKE? YES. AND WE WILL ALSO BE HAVING A COMMISSIONING AGENT WHO WILL BE WORKING FOR US TO GO THROUGH THE BUILDING WITH A FINE TOOTH COMB AND DO THAT WORK AS WELL TO, [00:30:02] TO JUDGE THE QUALITY OF THE WORK AND QUALITY CONTROL AND QUALITY ASSURANCE. ALL OF THAT WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM, AND ONE OF THE REASONS THEY ROSE TO THE TOP. THANK YOU. OKAY. MOTION TO APPROVE. I'LL SECOND THAT. SO I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE. ITEM NUMBER ONE, PLEASE VOTE. MOTION PASSES 8 TO 0. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. REAL QUICK, I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO TO RECOGNIZE PETER AND ANMAR FOR A COMPLETE REVAMP OF HOW WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING OUR NEW BUILD CONSTRUCTION. THEY WERE ASSIGNED THIS. PETER HAD A, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ADDITIONAL ASSIGNMENT. AND WHAT THEY BROUGHT TO THE TABLE HAS RECEIVED RAVE REVIEWS FROM OUR POLICE AND, AND FIRE PARTNERS FOR THEIR PROCESS AND QUALITY THAT THEY'RE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW. SO JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MINUTE TO RECOGNIZE PETER AND ANMAR FOR, FOR ALL THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING FOR US. THANK YOU GUYS. OKAY. ITEM TWO, ITEM NUMBER TWO. [(2)   Consideration of an Ordinance to amend Section 8-3, City Ambulance Service, of Article I, In General, of Chapter 8, Fire Prevention and Protection, of the Code of Ordinances of the City of Plano to establish user fees for certain City Ambulance Services; and providing a repealer clause, a severability clause, a savings clause, and an effective date.     ] CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND SECTION 8.3 CITY AMBULANCE SERVICE OF ARTICLE ONE IN GENERAL OF CHAPTER EIGHT FIRE PREVENTION AND PROTECTION OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF PLANO TO ESTABLISH USER FEES FOR CERTAIN AMBULANCE SERVICES AND PROVIDING A REPEALER CLAUSE, A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, A SAVINGS CLAUSE AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE. GOOD EVENING. I'M CHRIS BIGGERSTAFF, I'M THE FIRE CHIEF, AND OUR REQUEST TONIGHT IS TO AMEND OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE THAT THAT ALLOWS US TO BILL FOR AMBULANCE TRANSPORTS. WHAT WE'D LIKE TO CHANGE IS WE'D LIKE TO ADD THE ABILITY TO TO BILL FOR WHOLE BLOOD. WE CURRENTLY DON'T USE WHOLE BLOOD AS PART OF OUR TREATMENT PROTOCOL, BUT WE'RE, OUR PLAN IS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, TO GIVE OUR PARAMEDICS THE OPTION TO DO THAT. AND WHAT THIS CHANGE IN THE ORDINANCE WOULD DO IS IT WOULD ALLOW US TO TO BILL FOR THAT AND AND BE REIMBURSED FOR THE USE OF WHOLE BLOOD. TONIGHT WE HAVE HERE WITH ME TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE WHOLE BLOOD PROGRAM. WE HAVE OUR MEDICAL DIRECTOR, DOCTOR GAMBER, WHO'S HERE WITH US TONIGHT. WE ALSO HAVE OUR EMS CHIEF, BRIAN STRUTTON, WHO ARE HERE WITH US TONIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE DOCTOR GAMBER TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROGRAM. THANKS, CHIEF. THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THIS. I'M AS EXCITED TO TALK ABOUT THIS PROGRAM AS I HAVE BEEN ANYTHING AS I'VE SERVED AS THE EMS PHYSICIAN FOR THE CITY OF PLANO FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS. THE BOTTOM LINE IS THIS PROGRAM IS GOING TO SAVE LIVES. WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO THE DETAILS OF THE PROGRAM HERE TO SHARE IT WITH YOU. SO TRAUMA IS THE LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH FOR AGE 1 TO 44. AND YOU'LL HAVE TO EXCUSE ME BECAUSE AS AN EMERGENCY PHYSICIAN, I TALK ABOUT TOUGH THINGS, KIND OF MORBID THINGS, BUT IT'S IT'S WHAT WE DEAL WITH ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS. I'VE ALSO PRACTICED LOCALLY AS AN EMERGENCY PHYSICIAN FOR 20 YEARS. SO I'M FAMILIAR WITH WHAT WE FACE. AND WE HAVE HIGHWAYS AROUND US. WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF CONSTRUCTION, AND I SEE TRAUMA PATIENTS EVERY DAY IN MY PRACTICE AS AN EMERGENCY PHYSICIAN AND AS THE EMS PHYSICIAN FOR THIS CITY. AND WHAT WE'VE COME TO FIND IS THAT BLOOD LOSS, ANEMIA, PRE-HOSPITAL BLOOD LOSS IS VERY TREATABLE. AND THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT. SO YOU CAN SEE ON THIS MAP WHERE THERE ARE PRE-HOSPITAL BLOOD PROGRAMS, AND IT'S SOMETHING WE FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT STARTING HERE. SO WHO WOULD WE POTENTIALLY TREAT? SO THERE'S THERE'S TRAUMA PATIENTS. THAT'S THE OBVIOUS ONES THAT WE WOULD TREAT. IT CAN BE EVERYTHING FROM PENETRATING TRAUMA TO BLUNT TRAUMA, FROM CAR WRECKS TO CONSTRUCTION ACCIDENTS. BUT THERE'S ALSO MEDICAL PATIENTS. THERE CAN BE BLEEDING WITH PREGNANCY OR POST-PREGNANCY. THERE CAN BE GASTROINTESTINAL BLEEDING. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT RESPOND TO A TRANSFUSION. AND IT'S INTERESTING, OVER THE COURSE OF MY ROUGHLY 25 YEARS IN EMERGENCY MEDICINE, MEDICINE'S HUMBLING. WHEN WE STARTED, WE WOULD TREAT BLOOD LOSS ANEMIA WITH IV FLUIDS. AND THEN WE REALIZED THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY NOT GIVING THE PATIENT BACK WHAT THEY NEED. THEY NEED BACK EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE LOSING, WHICH IS BLOOD. AND WE NOW HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY. AND THANKS TO MILITARY MEDICINE AND SOME OF THE ADVANCES IN MILITARY SCIENCE, WE'RE BRINGING THAT INTO THE CIVILIAN ENVIRONMENT RIGHT NOW. SO THANKS TO OUR MILITARY FOR DOING THAT. THIS IS GOING TO HELP OUR CITIZENS. AND THIS STUDY IS REALLY INTERESTING TO ME. IT'S ONE OF MANY THAT HAVE COME OUT IN SUPPORT OF EMS SYSTEMS LIKE OURSELVES CARRYING BLOOD. AND WHAT IT SAYS IS THAT PRE-HOSPITAL BLOOD TRANSFUSIONS MATTER, THAT THE FASTER YOU CAN TREAT A PATIENT MATTERS, AND THAT FOR EVERY MINUTE THAT GOES BY IN SOMEBODY WHO'S DYING OF HEMORRHAGE, THEY HAVE A 15% INCREASE RISK OF DYING. [00:35:05] WHO IS THE TIP OF THE SPEAR? WHO CAN GET TO THE PATIENT THE FASTEST TO DO A TRANSFUSION? THAT'S US. THIS STUDY WAS SENT TO ME BY A LOCAL TRAUMA SURGEON. AND HE SAID TO ME, HEY, MARK, ARE YOU GUYS THINKING ABOUT CARRYING BLOOD? I SAID, ABSOLUTELY, WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING TO COUNCIL ABOUT IT VERY SHORTLY. BUT WHEN I'VE GOT TRAUMA SURGEONS ON BOARD, HOSPITALS ON BOARD THAT WANT TO DO AN EXCHANGE WITH US, AND WE HAVE A PROCESS THAT'S GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF THE RESOURCE SO THAT THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO WASTAGE OF THIS WHAT IS ESSENTIALLY A TISSUE DONATION FROM OUR CITIZENS TO HELP OTHER CITIZENS. YOU'LL SEE THAT WE'RE RUNNING A VERY RESPONSIBLE PROGRAM THAT I THINK WILL SAVE LIVES AS GOOD AS A PROGRAM LIKE DEFIBRILLATION FOR CARDIAC ARREST. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE PLACEMENT OF FIRE STATIONS IN THIS CITY, IT'S SET OUT SO THAT WE CAN GET TO ANY CARDIAC ARREST AND DELIVER CHEST COMPRESSIONS AND DEFIBRILLATION WITHIN ROUGHLY FIVE MINUTES, BECAUSE IN CARDIAC ARREST, EVERY MINUTE THAT GOES BY, YOU HAVE A 10% LESS CHANCE OF SURVIVAL. NOW, WHAT WE'VE LEARNED IN TRAUMA AND HEMORRHAGE, EVERY MINUTE THAT GOES BY, YOU HAVE A 15% INCREASED RISK OF DEATH. WE ARE THE ONES THAT CAN BRING THIS LIFE SAVING RESOURCE. SO WE'RE DOING THIS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH LOCAL HOSPITALS AND BLOOD BANKS, AND WE'RE JUST INCREDIBLY ENTHUSIASTIC. WE'VE BEEN EDUCATING ON IT FOR THE LAST FEW MONTHS. THE FEEDBACK FROM OUR FIREFIGHTERS HAS BEEN GREAT. I SEE POLICE OFFICERS IN THIS ROOM THAT I'VE KNOWN FOR TWO DECADES. IF I WAS A POLICE OFFICER, I'D ALSO FEEL GOOD THAT MY FIRE DEPARTMENT BROTHERS AND SISTERS ARE STARTING THIS PROGRAM HERE. IT'S PROTECTIVE OF ALL OF US. SO WE THINK WE'LL UTILIZE A TRANSFUSION ABOUT ONCE A WEEK BASED ON CURRENT NUMBERS. WE'RE VERY RESPECTFUL OF PEOPLE'S WISHES AND WILL CONSENT PATIENTS WHO ARE CONSCIOUS, IF THEY HAVE RELIGIOUS WISHES, IF THEY HAVE CONCERNS, WE HAVE A CONSENT PROCESS FOR THAT. AND WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW THEIR WISHES. IF WE'RE IF THEY'RE UNCONSCIOUS, WE'LL ACT UNDER IMPLIED CONSENT. SO WE WANT YOU TO KNOW WE'RE VERY PATIENT CENTRIC IN OUR APPROACH TO THIS. I WANT TO THANK CHIEF BIGGERSTAFF FOR HIS SUPPORT. AND ALSO, CHIEF STRATTON AND I WORKED HAND IN HAND ON THIS OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST YEAR. AND HE'S AN INCREDIBLE ASSET. AND HE'S GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE PROCESS. WE'RE ALSO WORKING CLOSELY WITH DISPATCH SO THAT WE CAN GET THE RIGHT RESOURCE TO THE RIGHT CALL IN THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF TIME. IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE SQUAD, WHICH IS AT STATION FOUR, WHICH IS PRETTY CENTRALLY LOCATED. WE FEEL LIKE WE CAN GET IT TO ALL CORNERS OF THE CITY WITHIN A FEW MINUTES BASED ON THAT. SO, CHIEF STRATTON, I'LL LET YOU TAKE OVER HERE. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS RYAN. SO LIKE DOCTOR ZIMMER SAID, WE KNOW THE NEED IS HERE. WE KNOW THAT IT'S THE PATIENTS ARE HERE FOR US TO DO IT. WE JUST WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROGRAM FOR A LITTLE BIT. WE'VE BEEN KIND OF CONSIDERING CONSIDERING IT. AND WE DON'T COME TO ANY OF THESE DECISIONS VERY LIGHTLY. WE MAKE SURE WE ARE THE PLAN IS READY AND IT'S THE TIMING IS RIGHT. WE HAVE THE SUPPORT OF Y'ALL, WE HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE CITIZENS, WE KNOW THAT WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING. AS DOCTOR CAMPBELL SAID, THE PATIENTS ARE HERE. SO WE WE CAME UP WITH THIS PLAN AND WE THINK THAT IT'S THE CORRECT PLAN FOR US. AND WE'RE NOT THE FIRST DEPARTMENT AROUND THAT HAS DONE IT. THERE'S SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS AROUND THAT HAVE LAUNCHED BLOOD PROGRAMS PRIOR TO US, AND WE'VE LEANED ON THAT THOSE RELATIONSHIPS AND ASKED THEM FOR THEIR ADVICE, WHAT THEY LEARNED IN THE PROCESS, WHAT THEY THEIR KNOWLEDGE ON THEIR PROGRAMS AND WHAT THEY WOULD HAVE DONE DIFFERENT FOR US TO BUILD THIS PROGRAM. WE DO THINK THAT THIS PROGRAM IS GOING TO BE THE KIND OF THE STAPLE OR THE MODEL GOING FORWARD FOR A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS, WE HAVE A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS WATCHING US AND KIND OF WAITING TO SEE HOW THIS GOES. AND I THINK I THINK WE HAVE KIND OF BUILT THIS FOR THE LONG HAUL. I SAID SO LIKE DOCTOR GAMBER SAID, IT'S GOING TO BE ON SQUAD ONE AT STATION FOUR. SQUAD ONE IS, ARE CURRENTLY OUR HIGHEST LEVEL OF TRAINED PARAMEDICS THAT WE HAVE. THEY RESPOND TO THE HIGHEST ACUITY PATIENTS, THE SICKEST PATIENTS, THE WORST CALLS. AND SO THEY'RE ALREADY THERE. SO PUTTING IT ON TO THE SQUAD ONE WAS ACTUALLY A PRETTY SAFE OR EASY CHOICE TO GO THERE BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY GOING TO A LOT OF THESE CALLS. WE DO HAVE TO MODIFY A FEW OF THE DISPATCH WITH PSC, BUT FOR THE MOST PART THEY'RE ALREADY GOING. ONE ADDED BENEFIT TO THE SQUAD HAS IS THEY ACTUALLY HAVE ULTRASOUND. NOT A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS HAVE AROUND AND NOT EVEN ALL OF OUR APPARATUS HAVE ULTRASOUND. BUT THE SQUAD IS VERY TRAINED ON ULTRASOUND. THEY HAVE TO SWITCH. THIS IS ACTUALLY OUR SQUAD ONE TEAM WORKING WITH DOCTOR COHEN FROM MCP OR MEDICAL CITY PLANO ON FAST SCANS. AND RIGHT HERE THEY'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT VENTRICULAR ACTIVITY OF THE HEART. BUT THEY WORK ON FAST SCANS. THEY WORK ON GETTING FASTER TO SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY KIND OF INTERNAL BLEEDING. WHAT DO YOU HAVE GOING ON. SO THEY CAN SEE AND THEY CAN SPOT ANY KIND OF INTERNAL BLEEDING FROM TRAUMAS THAT AREN'T VISIBLE TO THE NAKED EYE. THEY CAN IDENTIFY THAT. AND LIKE I SAID, AT SOME POINT, VERY, VERY SOON WHEN WE HAVE BLOOD CAPABILITIES, WE'LL BE ONE OF THE ONLY DEPARTMENTS AROUND THAT HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO IDENTIFY INTERNAL BLEEDING WITH ULTRASOUND AND TREAT IT WITH TRANSFUSED WHOLE BLOOD IN THE FIELD BEFORE YOU EVER GET TO THE HOSPITAL. THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT COMMON. THAT'S VERY RARE. WE WILL BE ONE OF THE FIRST DEPARTMENTS AROUND, AND THAT'S DEFINITELY BRINGING HOSPITAL LEVEL CARE TO DIRECTLY TO THE PATIENT. [00:40:05] ONE WAY WE WERE ABLE TO DO THIS BY LEARNING FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS IS THROUGH PARTNERSHIPS WITH OUR LOCAL HOSPITALS AND BLOOD BANKS. SO HOW WE'RE DOING THIS IS WE'RE PARTNERING WITH CARTER BLOOD AND MEDICAL CITY PLANO, BOTH DIRECTLY FOR BLOOD. BUT CARTER BLOOD, WE GET THE BLOOD FROM THEM. THEY BRING WHEN IT'S THE HIGHEST AMOUNT OF SHELF LIFE TO US. WE HAVE IT FOR THE FIRST TWO WEEKS OF THE SHELF LIFE. WHEN IT STARTS GETTING TO THE LAST SHORT LIFE PART OF THE BLOOD, WE TAKE IT TO MEDICAL CITY, PLANO, WHERE THEY CAN USE IT. THEY HAVE A WHOLE LOT MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO USE IT ON PATIENTS THAN WHAT WE DO. AND SO THEN THEY USE IT IN THEIR HOSPITAL AND WE GET NEW BLOOD TO STORES FOR PATIENTS. THIS REDUCES ANY KIND OF EXPIRED EXPIRATION OR WASTAGE FOR EVERYBODY. SO IT'S KIND OF A WIN WIN. AND THEN THE ONLY WAY WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING FOR THE BLOOD AND NORMAL OPERATION IS IF WE TRANSFUSE IT IN A PATIENT. WE GIVE IT TO THEM, THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO USE IT. IT DOESN'T EXPIRE WHILE WE HAVE IT. SO THEY HAVE THE BLOOD AND NEVER EXPIRES. NEVER COST US THE. THAT'S WHERE THE ORDINANCE COMES IN. RIGHT NOW. WE DON'T HAVE A WAY TO BUILD DIRECTLY FOR THE BLOOD. THE BLOOD IS ACTUALLY A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF WHAT OUR FLAT TRANSPORT FEE IS. SO IT WOULD BE A LOSS EVERY TIME WE GIVE A BLOOD. WITH THE ORDINANCE, WE'RE ABLE TO RECOUP THAT MONEY ON TOP OF THE TRANSPORT FEE. SO IT WOULD JUST BE AN ITEMIZED AMOUNT ON TOP OF THE ON TOP OF THE TRANSPORT FEE. NOW THAT IS THE EXACT AMOUNT THAT WHAT WE PAY FOR THE BILL, THERE'S NO MARKUP, THERE'S NO ANYTHING. IT'S JUST A DIRECT PAYMENT FOR THE FOR THE BLOOD THAT WE HAVE. WE PLAN TO LAUNCH SUMMER 2026. WE DON'T HAVE AN EXACT DATE. WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO BE READY AROUND END OF JUNE, EARLY JULY. AND THEN LIKE I SAID, THE PROJECTED COST ARE ABOUT 35,000. THAT'S BASED ON IF WE GIVE ONE UNIT OF BLOOD EVERY SINGLE WEEK FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US? FORCE. SURE, SURE, WE HAVE QUESTIONS, BUT NO, LOTS AND LOTS OF. COUNCIL MEMBER TWO I'VE ALREADY BEEN DEMOTED, SO BAD. SO ANYWAY, I WANT. OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A NO BRAINER. OKAY, I'M FULLY IN SUPPORT OF IT AND I'M GOING TO MOTION TO APPROVE. BUT I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW, HOW WOULD YOU HOW DO YOU LOGISTICALLY SPEAKING, HOW DO YOU MAKE SURE LIKE SQUAD ONE WOULD GET TO WHEREVER IT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE PATIENT NEEDS BLOOD? I MEAN, HOW DO YOU GUYS HOW ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO MAKE THAT DECISION? THE WAY, THE WAY SQUAD ONE SET UP RIGHT NOW IS THEY GO ON ALL OF OUR HIGH ACUITY CALLS. THAT'S OUR CPR. SO SO OUR CPR IS IF THEY HAVE IF WE HAVE A VEHICLE ACCIDENT WITH ENTRAPMENT CALLS LIKE THAT, THEY ALREADY RESPOND TO THOSE. SO WE ALREADY HAVE IT SET UP THROUGH DISPATCH WHERE THEY'LL DISPATCH THEM ALONG WITH THE OTHER UNITS. THE OTHER UNITS WILL ARRIVE FIRST, BUT THEN THE SQUAD WILL ARRIVE WITH THE BLOOD AND YOU KNOW ANY CAPABILITIES, THE, YOU KNOW, THE THE ULTRASOUND, ALL THAT SO THAT THEY CAN THEY CAN WORK ON THEM. WE'VE BEEN DOING IT NOW FOR PROBABLY, I DON'T KNOW, DOC, HOW LONG HAVE WE HAD THE SQUAD IN SERVICE? PROBABLY ABOUT A DECADE. AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE PRETTY GOOD AT BEING ABLE TO GET THEM TO THE RIGHT PLACE. AND SO DISPATCH, THEY DO A GREAT JOB ALSO OF RECOGNIZING CALLS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO NEED THEM AND HELPING US OUT THERE AS WELL. SO THANK YOU. I'VE ALREADY MOVED. OKAY. DEPUTY MAYOR. THANK YOU. MAYOR. I HAVE A QUESTION PRETTY MUCH. IF YOU COULD JUST WALK ME THROUGH THE PROCESS OF HOW YOU IDENTIFY THAT SOMEBODY IS GOING TO NEED IT, AND THEN YOUR TIMELINE KIND OF LIKE KIND OF LIKE WHEN YOU GO TO A HOSPITAL AND YOU HAVE LIKE ER TIME, ICU TIME AND TURNAROUND TIME. SO A GREAT QUESTION. SO WE HAVE A PROTOCOL CALLED OUR HEMORRHAGIC SHOCK PROTOCOL OR BLOOD LOSS PROTOCOL ESSENTIALLY. AND IT CAN BE FOR TRAUMA. IT CAN BE FOR MEDICAL SITUATIONS TO FROM BLOOD LOSS. AND IT'S LARGELY BASED ON VITAL SIGNS. SO IF YOUR BLOOD PRESSURE IS BELOW A CERTAIN NUMBER, IF YOUR HEART RATE IS ABOVE A CERTAIN NUMBER, IF YOUR END TIDAL CO2, WHICH IS A MARKER OF ACIDOSIS AND BLOOD LOSS, IS BELOW A CERTAIN NUMBER, THOSE ARE ALL INDICATIONS. AND THEN CERTAIN TRAUMA PATTERNS LIKE PENETRATING TRAUMA. YOU KNOW, IF I'M RECEIVING A PATIENT FROM EMS AND THERE'S BEEN SOME TYPE OF PENETRATING TRAUMA IN A CERTAIN AREA, THERE'S 100% CHANCE THEY'RE GETTING A TRANSFUSION AND GOING TO THE OPERATING ROOM. BUT MY TRAUMA SURGEON THAT SENT ME THAT STUDY SAID IT BEST. HE SAID, I CAN'T OPERATE ON PEOPLE THAT DON'T COME IN ALIVE. MORE PEOPLE WILL COME IN ALIVE. HE'LL BE DEAD ON ARRIVAL. EXACTLY. SO WHEN WE TRANSFUSE, IT'S MUCH LIKE US DOING CPR AND DEFIBRILLATION ON A MEDICAL PATIENT. WE'RE. WE'RE BUYING TIME TO GET THIS PATIENT ALIVE TO THE HOSPITAL SO THE SURGEONS CAN WORK ON THEM. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE NEAT THINGS ABOUT THIS. TEN YEARS AGO, THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY WOULD HAVE SAID, [00:45:02] I DON'T KNOW. NOW THEY'RE LINING UP BEHIND US GOING TO DO THIS. THIS IS HELPFUL. SO THE SCIENCE IS THERE. YEAH. SO WE'VE GOT A STRONG PROTOCOL WE'VE BEEN TEACHING ON FOR THE LAST FEW MONTHS SO THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THE VITAL SIGN AND INJURY PATTERN INDICATIONS TO GIVE. BUT WHAT'S THE TIMELINE OF DOING THAT VERSUS THE TIMELINE IN THE HOSPITAL? I WORKED OUT IN MY CAREER IN THE HOSPITAL. SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT I GOT YOU. OKAY. SO LIKE ONE MINUTE, 30S, YOU KNOW, WE CAN YOU TALKED, YOU HAD A QUESTION ABOUT MAYOR PRO TEM ABOUT ARRIVAL TIMES AND THINGS LIKE THAT TOO. AND THAT TIES IN NICELY. SO SAY ENGINE ONE ARRIVES FIRST. ENGINE ONE WILL GET THE IV OR THE IO AND GET THINGS SET UP. IF THE SQUAD ARRIVES TWO MINUTES LATER, THE IV IS NOW ALREADY SET UP. AND SO WE WORK AS A TEAM TO IDENTIFY THE RIGHT PATIENT, AND THEN THE SQUAD ARRIVES AND JUST HANGS THE BLOOD BECAUSE ALL THE OTHER THINGS HAVE BEEN SET UP. ONCE YOU GET A TURN AND GET SET UP AND YOU'RE. EXACTLY. WE HAVE A WARMER THAT WARMS THE BLOOD TO BRING IT UP TO HUMAN TEMP BY THE TIME IT HITS THE HUMAN BODY. SO WE HAVE ALL THE PROCESSES THAT THE MILITARY HAS SET UP, AND WE'RE JUST BRINGING IT INTO CIVILIAN MEDICINE. EQUIVALENT TO A CHEST PAIN, BUT LESS THAN A MINUTE. OH, IT MOVES QUICKLY. YEAH. WE CAN GET A UNIT OF BLOOD. OH, YEAH. NOW I GOT YOU. WE CAN GET A UNIT OF BLOOD INTO SOMEBODY IN ABOUT A MINUTE OR SO. IF WE'VE GOT A LARGE BORE IV. SO THEN OUR CITY COULD BE EQUIPPED TO PROVIDE BLOOD SERVICES AND CHEST PAIN SERVICES WITHIN SECONDS. WE ARE. BY THE TIME YOU ARRIVE TO A HOSPITAL. YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. OKAY, NOW YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. THAT'S MY OVERALL QUESTION. YEAH, WE'RE LUCKY BECAUSE WE'VE GOT VERY HIGH LEVEL TRAUMA CENTERS HERE. I AGREE WITH YOU. MY OTHER QUESTION IS WE'RE ONLY DOING IT AT STATION FOUR. BUT IF IT SHOWS TO BE GREAT AND PHENOMENAL AND WE HAVE AN AGING COMMUNITY, ARE WE PLANNING ON EXPANDING THAT TO THE OTHER STATIONS OR RIGHT NOW, IS IT JUST FOUR AND THEN MAYBE A YEAR LATER, REEVALUATE AND FIGURE OUT, I PREDICT I'M IN FRONT OF YOU IN A YEAR OR TWO, GIVING YOU SOME GOOD RESULTS. AND THEN WOULD, YOU KNOW, WE COULD POTENTIALLY TALK ABOUT EXPANSION OF THE PROGRAM. I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT IN A YEAR. AND I SECOND THE MOTION. COUNCIL MEMBER LAVINE. THANK YOU. A QUICK QUESTION. YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN WATCHING PROBABLY TOO MANY TELEVISION SHOWS. AND ONE OF THE THINGS YOU ALWAYS HEAR IS YOU KNOW, THE CALL TO TYPE THE, THE PATIENT. I GUESS THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN BEFORE YOU GIVE THEM WHOLE BLOOD. HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN IN THE FIELD? AND HOW LONG DOES THAT TAKE? SO WE CARRY UNIVERSAL DONOR BLOOD. AND SO THAT WAY WE, BECAUSE WE WANT MOST OF THE PATIENTS HONESTLY ARE UNCONSCIOUS OR MINIMALLY CONSCIOUS THAT WE WOULD BE TRANSFUSION. SO WE HAVE TO CARRY THE TYPE OF BLOOD THAT CAN BE GIVEN TO ANYBODY OR TYPE O. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU GUYS. THIS IS FASCINATING. AND AND LIKE MARIA SAID, YOU YOU HAD US AT HELLO. SO I, I I'M NOT A GAMBLER, BUT I'M PRETTY, PRETTY SURE THIS IS GOING TO GO WELL. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER TWO. PLEASE VOTE. MOTION PASSES 8 TO 0. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ITEM THREE. ITEM NUMBER THREE PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE AS REQUESTED IN ZONING [(3)   Public Hearing and consideration of an Ordinance as requested in Zoning Case 2026-003 to amend the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance of the City, Ordinance No. 2015-5-2, as heretofore amended, rezoning 1.4 acres of land located at the southeast corner of Legacy Drive and Parkwood Boulevard in the City of Plano, Collin County, Texas, from Commercial Employment to Planned Development-73-Commercial Employment and establishing modified development standards for a plaza with a sculptural structure incorporating stealth commercial antennas; directing a change accordingly in the official zoning map of the City; and providing a penalty clause, a repealer clause, a savings clause, a severability clause, a publication clause, and an effective date.  Petitioner: TRQ Plano, LLC ] CASE 2026-3 TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY ORDINANCE NUMBER 2015-5-2, AS HERETOFORE AMENDED. REZONING 1.4 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF LEGACY DRIVE AND PARKWOOD BOULEVARD IN THE CITY OF PLANO, COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS FROM COMMERCIAL EMPLOYMENT TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT-73 COMMERCIAL EMPLOYMENT AND ESTABLISHING MODIFIED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR A PLAZA WITH A SCULPTURAL STRUCTURE INCORPORATING STEALTH COMMERCIAL ANTENNAS, DIRECTING A CHANGE ACCORDINGLY IN THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP OF THE CITY, PROVIDING A PENALTY CLAUSE, A REPEAL OR CLAUSE, A SAVINGS CLAUSE, A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, A PUBLICATION CLAUSE AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL AND EXECUTIVES. I AM CHRISTINA DAY, THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING. HERE TO PRESENT TO YOU ZONING CASE 2026-003. THIS IS A RATHER UNIQUE CASE. IT IS CREATING A SMALL PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT 73 WITH A BASE ZONING OF COMMERCIAL EMPLOYMENT. IT IS ON LESS THAN AN ACRE OF LAND 0.76 ACRES OF PLAZA THAT WOULD BE CREATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF PARKWOOD BOULEVARD AND LEGACY DRIVE. YOU CAN SEE THE LARGER DEVELOPMENT PIECE AS LOT ONE BLOCK A IN THIS LOCATION, BUT ALSO MODIFY THE LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS AND ALLOW A 280 FOOT SCULPTURAL STRUCTURE WITH COMMERCIAL ANTENNAS. THE STRUCTURE WOULD BE ALLOWED BY RIGHT IN THE ZONING. IT'S REALLY THE ANTENNAS THAT BRING THE ZONING CASE FORWARD TO YOU THIS EVENING. [00:50:02] SO THE HISTORY OF THIS PROPERTY, IT HAS BEEN ZONED COMMERCIAL EMPLOYMENT AS THE BASE ZONING SINCE 1980. IT WAS DEVELOPED IN THE EARLY 90S AND BECAME VACANT IN 2018, REZONED IN 2023 WITH AMBITIONS FOR DEVELOPMENT, BUT THAT PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT WAS REPEALED IN 2025. WITH THE I TO THIS CURRENT DEVELOPMENT THAT'S PROPOSED IN PART THIS EVENING. SO YOU'LL SEE WHAT WAS AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING, THIS WAS A MUCH MORE EXTENSIVE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM WAS PRESENTED BECAUSE THEY'RE APPROVING DEVELOPMENT PLANS ON FOUR DIFFERENT LOTS. IT MODIFIED TWO LOTS IN THE EDS CLUSTERS, WHICH ARE THE EASTERNMOST PROPERTIES. THE SOUTHERN LOT OF THE EDS CAMPUS AND WHAT'S NOW THE, THIS NORTHERN BLOCK A LOT ONE, THAT'S THE PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN. THAT'S THE FOUNDATION OF THIS PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. YOU'LL SEE THIS LOT ALSO TAKES IN A PORTION OF THE EDS CLUSTERS PROPERTY. SO THIS IS THE PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN THAT ACCOMPANIES THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT REQUEST. YOU'LL SEE IT, THE PLAZA THAT IS PART OF THE THAT IS THE BASIS OF THE PD IS JUST A SMALL PART OF THE ENTIRE OVERALL CAMPUS. AND YOU'LL SEE THE LEGEND THERE AND JUST HOW IT, IT RELATES AS THE CORNER KIND OF ANCHORING THE ENTRY TO THE DEVELOPMENT AS A WHOLE. SO THIS IS ZOOMED IN ON THE PLAZA. YOU CAN SEE THERE IS A PROPOSED PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE ON THE CORNER THAT REQUIRES SOME MODIFICATION TO THE CITY'S NORMAL LANDSCAPE STANDARDS THAT REQUIRE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF LANDSCAPING AT THE HARD CORNER, THERE ARE, THERE'S LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS AS WELL ALONG THE FRONTAGE THAT ARE HINDERED BY SOME EASEMENTS THAT REQUIRE SOME AMENDMENTS IN THE PD. THE ANTENNA LOCATION IS INDICATED IN KIND OF THE TEAL BOXED AREA. AND THEN THERE'S HIKE AND BIKE TRAILS ON THE FRONTAGE OF BOTH LEGACY AND PARKWOOD. THIS IS AN OPEN SPACE PLAN THAT ACCOMPANIES THE REQUEST AS WELL. THIS IS TO HELP KIND OF TIE DOWN THE EXPECTATION OF WHAT WILL EXIST. WHILE THE DESIGN ISN'T FULLY FINALIZED, THIS IS CREATING AN EXPECTATION OF WHAT WILL EXIST ON THE SITE. THE GREEN AREA IS KIND OF THE SOFTER LANDSCAPE AREA AND THE GRAY AREA BEING HARDSCAPE FOR THE SITE. SO WITH THE OPEN SPACE PLAZA PLAN IT MUST BE IN SUBSTANTIAL CONFORMANCE. SO AGAIN THE DESIGN IS STILL SOMEWHAT IN FLUX, BUT IT'S OVERALL GOING TO BE VERY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING. THAT'S WHY IT'S BEING TIED TO THE ORDINANCE. IT WILL MODIFY THE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS COMPARED TO WHAT'S REQUIRED IN THE ORDINANCE, AGAIN, RELATED TO THE EASEMENTS THAT EXIST ON THE SITE COMPARED TO THE ORDINANCES, TYPICAL LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS. BUT OVERALL, IT'LL BE A MINIMUM OF 45% LANDSCAPING WITH NATIVE AND ADAPTIVE PLANT SPECIES 20, A MINIMUM OF 12 TREES, EIGHT FEET OF LANDSCAPE EDGE. AND THAT MAY INCLUDE BOULDERS OR OTHER AGGREGATE MATERIALS. THERE ARE AGAIN HIKE AND BIKE TRAILS REQUIRED, AND A MINIMUM OF SIX, SEVEN FOOT SIDEWALKS CIRCULATING THROUGHOUT THE PLAZA. THE DESIGN ALSO REQUIRES THREE OTHER AMENITIES. THERE IS A LIST OF VARIOUS AMENITIES THAT COULD BE INCLUDED. ALTERNATE AMENITIES MAY BE INCLUDED WITH MY APPROVAL AS THEY MAY FIND OTHER ALTERNATIVES THAT ARE MORE APPROPRIATE. BUT YOU SEE WAYFINDING SEATING, DECORATIVE PAVING, PEDESTRIAN SCALE LIGHTING, AND BIKE RACKS, THE KIND OF TYPICAL THINGS THAT YOU'D SEE IN A URBAN SCALE PLAZA ENVIRONMENT. AND OF COURSE, THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE THAT IS POSSIBLE TO BE BUILT THERE ACROSS CONNECTING LEGACY EAST WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT. SO MOVING ON TO THE SCULPTURAL STRUCTURE IN THE PLAZA. IT MUST ALSO BE IN SUBSTANTIAL CONFORMANCE TO THE TOWER DESIGN DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WAS ALSO ATTACHED TO YOUR ORDINANCE. THIS IS TIED DOWN BECAUSE WE WANT THIS TO BE WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET WHILE THE FINAL DESIGN AGAIN, NOT FULLY FULLY DESIGNED YET. WE DO WANT THIS TO BE TO CREATE AN EXPECTATION THAT THIS IS AGAIN, [00:55:10] SUBSTANTIALLY WHAT PEOPLE WILL SEE WHEN THIS IS CONSTRUCTED. THERE WILL BE MAYBE MINOR CHANGES, BUT IT WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT IS IS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN. AND THAT'S WHY IT'S BEING ADOPTED BY ORDINANCE. THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS SET AT 280FT. STEALTH ANTENNAS, SO THE THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PLACE ANTENNAS ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE TOWER. IT WILL ALL BE INTEGRATED INTERNALLY AND SHOULD NOT BE VISIBLE FROM THE EXTERIOR. AND THEN ALL THE GROUND EQUIPMENT NEEDS TO BE EITHER LOCATED WITHIN THE TOWER, UNDERGROUND OR SCREENED OFF SITE. SO IT SHOULD NOT BE REALLY VISIBLE WITHIN THE EITHER THE PLAZA OR FROM THE PUBLIC. SO RIGHT OF WAY SETBACKS TYPICALLY YOU WOULD HAVE A MUCH GREATER SETBACK FOR A KIND OF COMMERCIAL ANTENNA, BUT BECAUSE OF THE KIND OF ICONIC NATURE OF WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO HERE, THEY WANT IT CLOSER TO THE STREET. SO IT'S A 50 FOOT SETBACK FROM LEGACY AND 120FT, FIVE FEET FROM PARKWOOD BOULEVARD. WE ASKED FOR THIS TO BE AN INCREASED RISK CATEGORY UNDER THE BUILDING CODE TO HELP ENSURE THAT IT WAS STRUCTURALLY STABLE. NOT NOT JUST TO MEET BUILDING CODE, BUT TO EXCEED BUILDING CODE BECAUSE OF ITS PROXIMITY TO THESE KIND OF SENSITIVE USES. ADDITIONALLY, THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT INCLUDES RESTRICTIONS ON FLASHING, STROBING, ROTATING AND CHASING LIGHT EFFECTS BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 10 P.M. AND 6 A.M. AND THIS IS AN AMENDMENT THAT WAS MADE SPECIFICALLY IN RESPONSE TO PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WE HAD, WAS NOT PART OF THE ORIGINAL REQUEST, BUT WAS ADDED TO THE LANGUAGE BASED ON PUBLIC FEEDBACK. OF COURSE, ANY STRUCTURE ABOVE 200FT PER OUR ORDINANCE HAS TO RECEIVE APPROVAL FROM THE FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION. SO THAT WILL REQUIREMENT NEEDS TO BE MET. AND THEN ALL OTHER CITY ORDINANCES, NOISE ORDINANCE, LIGHT ORDINANCE BUILDING CODES WILL NEED TO BE MET AS WELL. SO ANOTHER REQUIREMENT HERE IS THAT PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS TYPICALLY WE DON'T CREATE THOSE FOR AREAS SMALLER THAN FIVE ACRES. SO IT DOES REQUIRE A FINDING BY THE CITY COUNCIL THAT IT'S NECESSARY TO IMPLEMENT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR ANOTHER STUDY. SO WE'VE WORKED TO TIE THIS TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, SHOWING THE BENEFITS OF PLACEMAKING, PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY TO LEGACY EAST AND SUPPORTING A MORE VIBRANT AND ACCESSIBLE EMPLOYMENT CENTER AND A CONNECTED, ACTIVE AREA. AND THAT INFORMATION IS DETAILED IN THE STAFF REPORT. SO AGAIN, SHOWING THE ACTIONS THAT ARE MET IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WE HAVE ONE PROPERTY OWNER RESPONSE LETTER IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT. A LETTER ADJACENCY FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER IN SUPPORT AND ONE IN OPPOSITION. AND YOU CAN SEE IT ZOOMED IN HOW IT JUST CLIPS THE CORNER THERE. SO IT'S A VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THE OVERALL AREA. AND THEN AS OF NOON ON THE DEADLINE OF MAY 22ND THESE ARE THE RESPONSES WE HAVE ONE IN SUPPORT, FIVE IN OPPOSITION, ONE WITHIN 200FT AND FOUR ELSEWHERE IN THE CITY. AND YOU CAN SEE THOSE LOCATIONS MAPPED FOR YOU. WE DID RECEIVE A LATE RESPONSE FROM THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION ACROSS THE STREET, AND I BELIEVE THAT WAS FORWARDED TO THE COUNCIL. SO THIS WAS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION BY A VOTE OF 7 TO 0. AND TO APPROVE, WE NEED COUNCIL TO ISSUE FINDINGS THAT THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT IS NECESSARY TO IMPLEMENT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THAT LANGUAGE HAS BEEN INCLUDED IN THE ORDINANCE. SO IF THAT'S INCLUDED IN YOUR MOTION, THE ORDINANCE HAS ALREADY BEEN DRAFTED TO BE SUFFICIENT. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR CHRISTINA? COUNCIL MEMBER KEHR. YES, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. AND SOME OF THESE ARE RELATED TO THE LATE RESPONSE THAT CAME IN. THEY WERE ASKING US TO LOCK IN SOME OF THE ILLUMINATION THINGS IN THE PD, AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'VE DONE. IS THAT CORRECT? I'M SORRY. THAT'S EXACTLY. AROUND THE ILLUMINATION TO LOCK IN SOME OF THE RESTRICTIONS AROUND THE ILLUMINATION, SUCH AS CHASING AND THAT SORT OF THING. RIGHT. THAT LANGUAGE IS SIMILAR, BUT NOT EXACTLY THE SAME. THE MAIN PRIMARY THING THAT I NOTICED WAS THE COLOR CHANGING. [01:00:03] THAT'S NOT IN OUR ORDINANCE TODAY. AND SOME OF THE LANGUAGE IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT WITH THE WE HAVE STROBING, WE HAVE JUST A FEW DIFFERENT WORDS THAT MAY MEAN DIFFERENT THINGS. SO BUT THE COLOR CHANGING IS THE PRIMARY DIFFERENCE THAT I NOTICED. ULTIMATELY, THIS STRUCTURE, THIS ENTIRE PD HAS TO FOLLOW THE ORDINANCES AROUND NOISE, AROUND LIGHT AND THAT SORT OF THING. YES. IT'S ALREADY RESTRICTED IN THAT WAY. YES. CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT, ALL THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD NORMALLY REQUIRE. THE, ARE WE VOTING ON THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE SCULPTURE, OR JUST SIMPLY THE ADDITION OF THE ANTENNA. TELL ME MORE ABOUT THAT. IT'S STRUCTURED AROUND TO CREATE THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. THIS STRUCTURE IS TALL ENOUGH THAT THE ORDINANCE WOULD NOT ALLOW A ANTENNAS AT THIS HEIGHT, SO IT REQUIRES A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT TO ALLOW ANTENNAS IN A STRUCTURE OF THIS HEIGHT. SO THAT'S WHY THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT IS NECESSARY. SO IT, IT DOES REQUIRE A PD, BUT IT'S REALLY THE ANTENNAS THAT ARE DRIVING THE NEED FOR A ZONING CHANGE. TYPICALLY IN A CELL TOWER, THE HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS AND DISTANCES FROM SETBACKS, THAT SORT OF THING. IT'S RELATED TO THE, I GUESS, THE STRENGTH OF THE TOWER TO TO BEAR A STORM, THAT SORT OF THING. SO HOW THE OPPORTUNITY FOR IT TO FALL OVER, I GUESS, AND THIS IS BEING ADDRESSED BY HAVING A MORE STRICT BUILDING STANDARDS SO THAT THE THE LIKELIHOOD IS REDUCED EVEN FURTHER. THAT'S CORRECT. AND I WOULD THINK THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER WOULD BE IT IS ALSO IN CLOSER PROXIMITY TO THEIR BUILDINGS. SO I THINK THERE'S AN INTEREST FOR THEM TO MAINTAIN THE STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY OF THE, OF THE STRUCTURE. BUT WE WANTED TO ENSURE THE THAT INTEGRITY FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY AS WELL. SO THAT'S WHY WE INCLUDED THAT LANGUAGE IN THE ZONING. AND THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT TYING THE ADDITION OF THE ANTENNA TO THIS SPECIFIC SCULPTURE. THAT IS THE CASE HERE, RIGHT? IF THERE'S ANY CHANGES, THEN WE HAVE TO COME BACK TO TO GROUND ZERO. THAT'S CORRECT. WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THIS. IT'S IT'S A VERY NARROW SCOPE. THAT'S WHY WE'RE TYING THE DESIGN IN THE ORDINANCE. IT'S BEING ADOPTED BY THE ORDINANCE. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, MINOR CHANGES. BUT ANYTHING THAT'S WE FEEL LIKE IS SIGNIFICANT WE'RE GOING TO BRING BACK. OKAY. LET ME JUST ASK ONE MORE TIME TO BE SURE I'VE GOT IT STRAIGHT. THE HEIGHT OF THE TOWER IS. IT'S. THEY CAN BUILD IT BY RIGHT. IT'S THE ADDITION OF THE ANTENNAS. WHILE WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE BUILDING CODE. THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR. OH, HOLD ON, LET ME GET YOU ON. OKAY. I'LL TAKE BOB KIND OF ANSWERED OR ASKED THAT QUESTION BECAUSE WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK IS TECHNICALLY, IF IT WEREN'T FOR THE ANTENNAS, THEY COULD HAVE JUST BUILT THE STRUCTURE AND THEN A YEAR LATER THEY WOULD COME FORWARD AND SAY THEY WANTED ANTENAS AND THEY WOULD HAVE HAD THE CONVERSATION, STRUCTURE WOULD ALREADY BEEN BUILT. THAT IS CORRECT. THE STRUCTURE COULD BE BUILT, BUT FOR THE ANTENNAS. RIGHT. SO PRETTY MUCH ANSWER MY QUESTION. ALL RIGHT. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. CHRISTINA. YOU'RE WELCOME. I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. WE DO HAVE SPEAKERS THIS EVENING. THE FIRST IS THE APPLICANT, BILL DAHLSTROM AND MICHAEL ELLIS. MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS BILL DAHLSTROM. 2323 ROSS AVENUE. IT TRULY IS AN HONOR TO BE HERE ON BEHALF OF KDC AND ASKING THIS APPLICATION ON BEHALF OF THIS APPLICATION, MICHAEL, ALONG WITH KATIE SINCERE, ALEX ROTHMAN WITH KIMLEY-HORN, OUR ENGINEERS HERE, AND VICTORIA MORRIS, ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES IS HERE AS WELL. I'D LIKE TO THANK STAFF. THEY WORKED VERY HARD AND QUICKLY AND HELPED US WITH THIS GO SHEPHERDING THROUGH THIS PROCESS. IT IS SOMEWHAT UNUSUAL, BUT I THINK WE'VE GOT A GREAT, GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY AND I WON'T REPEAT THE REQUEST. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE BASICALLY ASKING FOR THE ABILITY TO PUT THE ANTENNA IN THE TOWER, WHICH WE, AS WE'VE JUST BEEN TOLD, IS PERMITTED BY RIGHT. AND WE CAME IN WITH A SCULPTURAL TOWER. WE DECIDED, WELL, SINCE THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY, WE DECIDED TO GO AHEAD AND REQUEST THE, THE ANTENNA AS WELL. AND WHAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO DO IS PLACEMAKING, YOU KNOW, CREATING AN ICONIC ENVIRONMENT, A PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED ENVIRONMENT. AT THE END OF THIS OVERPASS OVER PARK WOULD CREATE AN OPEN AREA THAT'S GOING TO BE PRIVATELY OWNED, OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. SO IT WILL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC FOR PUBLIC FACILITY AND AMENITY. YOU CREATE A VIBRANT COMMUNITY FOCUSED ON THE AMENITY, UTILIZING THE ART AND THE PLAZA. I'M GOING TO GO QUICKLY THROUGH THESE BECAUSE THIS IS VERY MUCH VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT MISS DAY HAD JUST PRESENTED. THERE'S THE SEE AN AERIAL OF THE OVERALL CAMPUS. AND AGAIN, WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT JUST THE .76, 1.4 ACRE TRACT OF LAND. [01:05:05] IT'S JUST A SMALL PART OF THE, THE PD AND OBVIOUSLY THE CAMPUS IS PERMITTED. THE PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN HAS BEEN CONDITIONALLY APPROVED AND THE SCULPTURE, AS WE'VE BEEN TOLD, IS PERMITTED. THERE'S AN AERIAL OF THE 0.76, ROUGHLY 0.76 TRACT LAND THAT'S SUBJECT TO THE NEW PLAZA. AGAIN, THE OVERALL ACREAGE IS 1.4 BECAUSE YOU TAKE THE THE DESCRIPTION OF THE REZONING TO THE CENTER LINES. AND OUR OUR CONCEPTUAL PLAN, OUR PLAZA PLAN, AS YOU SAW. AGAIN, IT'S AN ENHANCED LANDSCAPING AND OTHER AMENITIES TO ELEVATE THE, THE PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE FOR FOR ALL. IT'S NOT JUST FOR THE CAMPUS, BUT IT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. IT'S INTENDED TO BE AN ICONIC. AGAIN, I USED THE WORD ICONIC PLACEMAKING FEATURE FOR THE OFFICE CAMPUS AND FOR THE GREATER LEGACY AREA. THE REGS WILL ALLOW THE TOWER TO BE USED AS A STEALTH ANTENNA STRUCTURE. AGAIN, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT, AND I HAD NOTES ON HOW WE COMPLY WITH THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BUT MISSED A SLIDE. DID A GOOD JOB OF SHOWING HOW WE COMPLY WITH THAT. AND AGAIN, THE STAFF REPORT ALSO SHOWS THE ENHANCED LANDSCAPING WE ARE PROVIDING IN TERMS OF NUMBER OF TREES, AMOUNT OF AREA THAT IS TO BE LANDSCAPED, THE THE TRAILS ON THE, THE PERIMETER, THE SIDEWALKS AND OTHER PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS INTERNALLY, AND THE CONNECTION WITH THE THE PROPOSED BRIDGE. THIS IS THE EXHIBIT YOU JUST SAW. AND HERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL EXHIBITS SHOWING AGAIN, THE DAY AND AN EVENING VIEW AND A VIEW FROM THE EAST TO THE WEST. SO RESPECTFUL REQUEST APPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION. MICHAEL, ALONG WITH KDC, IS ALSO HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT WE REALLY APPRECIATE STAFF'S HELP WITH THIS CASE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MICHAEL, DO YOU YOU'RE WELCOME TO ELABORATE IF YOU'D LIKE. WELL, EVERYBODY, YOU'RE ON, YOU'RE YOU'RE, YOU'RE ON MY SPEAKER LIST. SO THANK YOU. EVERYBODY'S TOLD A GREAT STORY. WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS. IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY AND FOR OUR CLIENT. AND THEY'RE VERY PROUD OF THIS IDEA. AND WE WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT. AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE SOME. ALL RIGHT, I APPRECIATE THAT. LET ME GET THROUGH THESE OTHER TWO SPEAKERS. AND THEN IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BY THE COUNCIL, WE'LL ASK YOU TO COME BACK UP. JEFFREY GREASON. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR MUNS AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. JEFF GREASON, OWNER OF 7241 PARKWOOD SINCE 2006. I WELCOME AT&T TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THIS TRANSFORMATIVE PROJECT TO PLANO. IT REDEVELOPS THE EMPTY EDS CAMPUS AND HOPEFULLY BRINGS NEW LIFE INTO THE ORIGINAL SHOPS AT LEGACY. MY CONCERNS ARE NARROW AND THEY ARE ABOUT HOW THIS PROJECT PROCEEDS AND NOT WHETHER THIS IMAGE SHOWS WHAT A 280 FOOT TOWER WOULD LOOK LIKE THROUGH THE JULIET PATIO DOOR OF MY THIRD FLOOR MASTER BEDROOM. AND THAT IS WHY I AM HERE TODAY. ON MAY 12TH, I EACH SENT YOU FOUR PROPOSED REFINEMENTS TO THIS PD. THE DRAFTING LANGUAGE IS IN DOCUMENT 29 THE TOWNHOMES ONE HOA BOARD REVIEW THOSE REFINEMENTS AND VOTED UNANIMOUSLY UNANIMOUSLY TO SUPPORT THEM. FIRST IS ILLUMINATION. THE BINDING EXHIBIT D SHOWS THE STRUCTURE DARK. APPLICANT COUNCIL TOLD THE COMMISSION THAT THE SPHERE IS INTENDED TO BE A GLOW, SO MY PROPOSED REFINEMENT LOCKS THE ILLUMINATION IN THE ORDINANCE. NO ANIMATED FLASHING OR COLOR CHANGING LIGHT DAY OR NIGHT, AND IT TIES TO THE CITY'S OUTDOOR LIGHTING CODE AS THE FLOOR. SECOND, OUR HOMES NEXT DOOR. PLANO SETBACK RULE FOR TALL COMMUNICATION TOWERS EXIST TO KEEP THEM A SAFE DISTANCE FROM HOMES. THIS TOWER STANDS 215FT TO CLOSE STAFF SITES. THE WIND LOAD STANDARD, WHICH ADDRESSES FALLING BUT DOES NOT ADDRESS LIGHT GLARE OR NOISE. PHOTOMETRIC REVIEW IS AT THE PROPERTY LINE, NOT AT THIRD FLOOR WINDOWS FACING THE STRUCTURE. MY PROPOSED REFINEMENT REQUIRES A RESIDENTIAL IMPACT STUDY AT THOSE WINDOWS, PLUS NOISE BEFORE THE BUILDING PERMIT. THIRD, THE STRUCTURE IS NOT A SIGN. THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND THE CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL DETERMINED THAT IT IS NOT A SIGN, IT IS A SCULPTURE. THE SIGN ORDINANCE, THEREFORE DOES NOT REACH THIS STRUCTURE, YET IT HAS THE SAME IMPACT ON HOMES AS A SIGN WOULD, [01:10:04] COLOR, ILLUMINATION, VISIBILITY. THE SIGN ORDINANCE CONTAINS RESIDENTIAL PROTECTION PROTECTIONS FOR THOSE IMPACTS. MY PROPOSED REFINEMENTS CARRIES THOSE PROTECTIONS INTO THE PD ITSELF SO THEY APPLY ON THEIR OWN TERMS. FOURTH FORM TIME FORM TIED PERSISTENCE. THIS PD TRADES THE RESIDENTIAL SETBACK FOR THE SCULPTURES PUBLIC BENEFIT. TAKE AWAY THE SCULPTURE AND THE BENEFIT DISAPPEARS WHILE THE ANTENNA ENTITLEMENT REMAINS. THE PD SAYS A SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE WOULD REQUIRE A ZONING CHANGE, BUT IT DOES NOT DEFINE THE TERM. THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PLANNING TOLD YOUR COMMISSION THE PD CERTAINLY COULD EMBED THAT DEFINITION. NONE IS THERE TODAY. MY PROPOSED REFINEMENT NAMES THE FORMAL ELEMENTS OF THE STRUCTURE, THE GLOBE, THE SHAFT, AND THE SPLAYED BASE. 15 SECONDS. IF THE SCULPTURE IS EVER MATERIALLY ALTERED OR DEMOLISHED, THE ENTITLEMENTS REVERTS TO ORDINARY SUPPORT STRUCTURE RULES. 20 YEARS INTO OWNING MY HOME, I SEE WHAT THIS PROJECT CAN DO FOR MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND MY OWN PROPERTY, BUT ONLY IF IT WHAT GETS BUILT MATCHES THE LANDMARK ON THE RENDERING AND PROTECTS THE QUALITY OF THE LIVES OF THE HOMES NEXT TO IT. THE FOUR PROPOSED REFINEMENTS PROTECT EVERY RESIDENT LIVING NEAR IT. WITH THESE REFINEMENTS IN PLACE, JEFFREY. TIME'S UP. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. SIR. BILL. LYLE. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. I LEARNED SOMETHING SITTING HERE TONIGHT. AND THAT'S THAT THIS IS ALLOWED BY, BY RIGHT. I DON'T THINK IT'S ALLOWED BY RIGHT WHERE IT IS WITH THE SETBACKS. BUT MAYBE I'M WRONG ABOUT THAT AS WELL. BUT IF IT'S ALLOWED BY RIGHT AND WE'RE NOT ALTERING ANYTHING, THE WHOLE POINT OF ZONING IS THAT PEOPLE WITH THE SAME ZONING WOULD HAVE EQUAL OPPORTUNITY. AND SO ONE OF THE STATED GOALS OF THE REWRITE IS TO GET AWAY FROM PDS. PDS IS WHERE WE GIVE INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS SPECIAL PERMISSION TO DO SOMETHING. BUT IF IT'S ALLOWED BY RIGHT, AND IT'S ONLY THE ONLY DIFFERENCE HERE IS ALLOWING THIS TO BE A A COMMUNICATIONS TOWER. WHY NOT GO IN TO THE CD OR THE CE ZONING DISTRICT SO THAT IF I DON'T KNOW, DOCTOR PEPPER COMES BACK AND THEY WANT A 250 FOOT TALL DOCTOR PEPPER CAN, THEY CAN DO IT AND THEY CAN HAVE A TOWER THERE LIKE, EVIDENTLY THEY CAN DO IT BYWRIGHT ALREADY, OR LIBERTY, LIBERTY, LIBERTY WANTS A 280 FOOT TALL STATUE OF LIBERTY. LIKE. WHY NOT JUST MAKE IT FOR THE ENTIRE DISTRICT INSTEAD OF CARVING OUT SPECIFIC PERMISSIONS FOR ONE PERSON? WE GET AWAY FROM OUR ADDICTION TO PDS, WHICH IS AGAIN A STATED GOAL OF THE REWRITE, AND WE LET THE WHOLE CORPORATE CAMPUS CREATE ICONIC STRUCTURES LIKE THIS. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. I HEARD ABOUT THE ICONIC STRUCTURE AND SAW THE VISUAL, AND THEN HEARD FROM SOMEONE THAT IT WASN'T GOING TO BE A CELL TOWER. AND I WAS LIKE, WELL, THAT'S THE. THAT DEFINITELY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. THEY'RE IN THE BUSINESS. LIKE, OF COURSE, MAKE IT CONCEALED CELL TOWER. NO ONE HAS AN ARGUMENT WITH THAT. BUT IF THE TOWER AND ALL THIS OTHER STUFF IS ALLOWED, LET'S DO IT FOR EVERYONE. THAT'S WHAT ZONING IS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY MORE? THERE ARE NO OTHER SPEAKERS. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. CONFINE THE COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL. COUNCIL MEMBER KEHR. MR. MAYOR, I DO HAVE A FEW COMMENTS. I LIVE AND WORK RIGHT IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, AND FOR THE YEARS I HAVE LOOKED OUT AND SEEN THAT ICONIC BUILDING. AND WHILE I'M VERY HAPPY THAT AT&T IS COMING IN THERE, MY FIRST THOUGHT WAS, OH MY GOSH, WE'RE LOSING THAT ICONIC BUILDING. WHAT A SHAME. BUT IMMEDIATELY AFTER, MY THOUGHT IS, IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A COMPANY THAT'S GOING TO COME IN AND DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, WHO BETTER THAN THIS 150 YEAR OLD COMPANY THAT IS BRINGING ITS HEADQUARTERS HERE? AND EVEN BETTER, THEY'RE NO LONGER RELYING ON A BUILDING TO BE ICONIC. THEY'RE USING A SCULPTURE. AND SO I JUST THINK IT'S AN EXTRAORDINARY THING. I THINK IT'S GOING TO ADD SO MUCH TO OUR ENTIRE CITY, NOT JUST LEGACY WEST AND THAT IN THAT DISTRICT RIGHT THERE. I BELIEVE THAT THE WAY THE ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN, THAT WE HAVE ADDRESSED VIRTUALLY EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP TODAY, WE'VE INCLUDED THE THINGS ABOUT LOCKING IN THE ILLUMINATION RESTRICTIONS IN THE PD. WE ALREADY HAVE ORDINANCES IN PLACE AROUND NOISE AND GLARE AND LIGHT. WE HAVE ADDRESSED WHY WE NEED A PD BECAUSE OF THE, THE FACT THAT ADDING AN ANTENNA IS, IS, REQUIRES A DIFFERENT HAS DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS IN ORDER TO BUILD IT IN TERMS OF FALL RISK AND ETCETERA. [01:15:01] AND SO WE'VE ADDRESSED ALL THOSE THINGS AND THE FACT THAT WE DON'T NECESSARILY WANT EVERYONE TO BUILD A, A SUPER TOWER WHEREVER THEY'RE BUILDING JUST TO PUT UP ANTENNAS. I THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE A SPECIAL PD HERE. AND SO I THINK WITH ALL THESE IN MIND, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THIS ORDINANCE AS PRESENTED. DEPUTY MAYOR, I SECOND THE MOTION. ANYONE ELSE? I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND. MAYOR PRO TEM OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE ITEM THREE. PLEASE VOTE. BEFORE I OPEN THE VOTE, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY. THE MOTION IS TO INCLUDE THAT FINDING. CORRECT? YES, PLEASE. THANK YOU. SORRY. THANK YOU FOR THE CORRECTION. MOTION PASSES 8 TO 0. WE'LL TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK TO FILL OUT OUR FINDINGS. OKAY. WE'RE BACK IN SESSION. IT WAS QUICK. ITEM NUMBER FOUR. [(4)   Public Hearing and consideration of an Ordinance as requested in Zoning Case 2025-017 to amend the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance of the City, Ordinance No. 2015-5-2, as heretofore amended, so as to amend Heritage Landmark Designation No. H-1 on 3.8 acres of land located on the southeast corner of 15th Street and Pitman Drive in the City of Plano, Collin County, Texas, to modify development standards; directing a change accordingly in the official zoning map of the City; and providing a penalty clause, a repealer clause, a savings clause, a severability clause, a publication clause, and an effective date. ] ITEM NUMBER FOUR. PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE AS REQUESTED IN ZONING CASE 2025-17 TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY ORDINANCE NUMBER 2015-5-2, AS HERETOFORE AMENDED, SO AS TO AMEND HERITAGE LANDMARK DESIGNATION NUMBER H.1 ON 3.8 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF 15TH STREET AND PITTMAN DRIVE IN THE CITY OF PLANO, COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS TO MODIFY DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, DIRECTING A CHANGE ACCORDINGLY IN THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP OF THE CITY, PROVIDING A PENALTY CLAUSE, A REPEALER CLAUSE, A SAVINGS CLAUSE, A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, A PUBLICATION CLAUSE AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE. ALL RIGHT, ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS ZONING CASE 2025-17, WHICH IS AMENDING OUR ORIGINAL HERITAGE LANDMARK DESIGNATION H.1, WHICH IS THE AMY WILSON HOUSE. PROBABLY MORE COMMONLY KNOWN AS THE HERITAGE FARMSTEAD. SO A HERITAGE LANDMARK DESIGNATION IS A ZONING OVERLAY DISTRICT. AND THAT CAN BE USED TO MODIFY THE BASE ZONING AND THROUGH THE HERITAGE LANDMARK DESIGNATION PROCESS, THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR THAT PROPERTY CAN BE MODIFIED SPECIFICALLY TO PRESERVE OR PROTECT THAT LANDMARK. SO WE ARE LOOKING AT MODIFYING THE STANDARDS FOR THE HERITAGE FARMSTEAD DISTRICT THROUGH THIS ZONING REQUEST. THERE ARE TWO PIECES TO THIS REQUEST BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. ONE IS TO ALLOW CRUSHED GRANITE FOR GATED PARKING AREAS. SO THE HERITAGE COMMISSION HAS REVIEWED THIS. AND THEY FIND THAT CRUSHED GRANITE IS AN APPROPRIATE USE. IF YOU'VE BEEN TO THE FARMSTEAD, YOU KNOW THERE'S CRUSHED GRANITE PATHWAYS ALL THROUGH THE SITE. SO LOOKING AT JUST MAKING ADDITIONAL CHANGES THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE WAY THE SITE FUNCTIONS TODAY, AND THEN ALLOWING IDENTIFICATION SIGNAGE FOR THE PROPERTY UP TO 12FT IN HEIGHT, 12FT IN WIDTH, AND THEN DEEMED HISTORICALLY APPROPRIATE IN DESIGN AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SITE. AND THAT WILL GO THROUGH A HERITAGE COMMISSION APPROVAL PROCESS FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. THEY DON'T HAVE A DESIGN TODAY, SO WE CAN'T REALLY SHOW YOU WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE, BUT IT WILL BE APPROVED THROUGH THE HERITAGE COMMISSION WHEN THEY LAND ON A A APPROPRIATE SIGN. SO THIS IS WHAT THOSE CHANGES LOOK LIKE. YOU CAN SEE THEY HAVE THREE STIPULATIONS TODAY. AND THIS WILL ADD TWO MORE. AND IT DOES MEET THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WE'VE HAD TWO LETTERS OF SUPPORT FOR THIS PROPOSAL AND OVERALL THREE IN SUPPORT AND THREE IN OPPOSITION CITY CITYWIDE, THE HERITAGE COMMISSION RECOMMENDED UNANIMOUS APPROVAL 6 TO 0 AND PLANNING AND ZONING AGAIN UNANIMOUSLY WITH A SEVEN ZERO VOTE. SO THAT IS THE END OF MY PRESENTATION. I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. ANY QUESTIONS FOR CHRISTINA? OKAY. THANK YOU. I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. CONFINE THE COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL. MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE. THANK YOU. SECOND. SO I HAVE A MOTION. A SECOND TO APPROVE. ITEM NUMBER FOUR, PLEASE VOTE. [01:20:06] MOTION PASSES 8 TO 0. THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.