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WELCOME TO THE APRIL 20, 2026 CITY OF PLANO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING.

[CALL TO ORDER ]

I CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AT 6:00 PM. IF YOU'D PLEASE RISE AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CONSENT AGENDA. CONSENT AGENDA.

[CONSENT AGENDA ]

THE CONSENT AGENDA WILL BE ACTED UPON IN ONE MOTION AND CONTAINS ITEMS THAT ARE ROUTINE AND TYPICALLY NONCONTROVERSIAL.

ITEMS MAY BE REMOVED FROM THIS AGENDA FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION BY COMMISSIONERS OR STAFF.

COMMISSIONERS WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO REMOVE AN ITEM FROM THE AGENDA? OH.

BEFORE WE DO THAT, I DO WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE COMMISSIONER BROUNOFF ON WITH US VIA ZOOM TONIGHT.

SO WAS GOING TO SAY RAISE YOUR HAND, MAKE SURE YOU CAN HEAR US.

SO YEAH. ALL RIGHT. SO WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO REMOVE AN ITEM FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA? COMMISSIONER BRONSKY. I MOVE, WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS SUBMITTED.

COMMISSIONER LINGENFELTER. I'LL SECOND. ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE VOTE. WAS THAT LINGENFELTER THAT SECOND.

MR. BROUNOFF THUMBS UP. OKAY. YEAH. ALL RIGHT.

MOTION PASSES, 7 TO 0. THANK YOU. ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.

[1. Preliminary Site Plan: Signature Plaza, Block A, Lots 1R, 7R, & 8 – Retail, restaurant, and health/fitness center on three lots on 9.7 acres located on the east side of Coit Road, 625 feet north of Ridgeview Drive. Zoned Regional Commercial and located within the State Highway 121 and Expressway Corridor Overlay Districts. Project #PSP2025-031. (Legislative consideration of a landscape edge reduction request)]

ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS UNLESS INSTRUCTED OTHERWISE BY THE CHAIR, SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER REGISTRATIONS ARE RECEIVED.

APPLICANTS ARE LIMITED TO A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES OF PRESENTATION TIME, WITH A FIVE MINUTE REBUTTAL IF NEEDED.

REMAINING SPEAKERS ARE LIMITED TO 30 TOTAL MINUTES OF TESTIMONY TIME, WITH THREE MINUTES ASSIGNED PER SPEAKER.

THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY MODIFY THESE TIMES AS DEEMED NECESSARY.

ADMINISTRATIVE CONSIDERATION ITEMS MUST BE APPROVED IF THEY MEET CITY DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.

LEGISLATIVE CONSIDERATION ITEMS ARE MORE DISCRETIONARY EXCEPT AS CONSTRAINED BY LEGAL CONSIDERATIONS.

NON PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL PERMIT LIMITED PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA NOT POSTED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.

THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL ESTABLISH TIME LIMITS BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKER REQUESTS, LENGTH OF THE AGENDA AND TO INSURE MEETING EFFICIENCY AND MAY INCLUDE A TOTAL TIME LIMIT.

THANK YOU. CAN YOU READ ITEM NUMBER ONE, PLEASE? AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE. SIGNATURE PLAZA BLOCK A LOTS 1R, 7R AND 8 RETAIL RESTAURANT AND HEALTH FITNESS CENTER ON THREE LOTS ON 9.7 ACRES LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF COIT ROAD, 625FT NORTH OF RIDGEVIEW DRIVE.

ZONED REGIONAL, COMMERCIAL AND LOCATED WITHIN THE STATE HIGHWAY 121 AND EXPRESSWAY CORRIDOR OVERLAY DISTRICTS.

THE APPLICANT IS KROGER TEXAS LP. THIS ITEM IS FOR LEGISLATIVE CONSIDERATION.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS ANA SUTTER .

I'M A PLANNER FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. THE PURPOSE OF THIS PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN IS TO SHOW TWO NEW PROPOSED RESTAURANT RETAIL BUILDINGS, MODIFIED LOT LINES, AND IMPROVEMENTS RELATING TO THE REUSE OF AN EXISTING GROCERY STORE BUILDING AS A HEALTH FITNESS CENTER. WITH THIS PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN, THE PROPOSED RETAIL RESTAURANT BUILDINGS ON LOT SEVEN R AND EIGHT ARE REQUESTING A REDUCTION IN THE REQUIRED LANDSCAPE EDGE FROM 30FT TO 19FT TO ALLOW CONSTRUCTION OF RIGHT TURN LANES ON COIT ROAD.

WHEN THIS SITE WAS ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED IN 2004, A 30 FOOT WIDE LANDSCAPE EDGE WAS PROVIDED ALONG COIT ROAD.

HOWEVER, NO RIGHT TURN LANES WERE REQUIRED UNDER THE STANDARDS IN EFFECT AT THAT TIME.

WITH THE NEW BUILDINGS PROPOSED, CONSTRUCTION OF TWO RIGHT TURN LANES ARE NOW REQUIRED.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REDUCE THE LANDSCAPE EDGE FROM 30FT TO 19FT TO ACCOMMODATE THE TURN LANES, WHILE MAINTAINING CONSISTENCY WITH THE EXISTING LANDSCAPE EDGE OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES.

THE FIRST IMAGE SHOWS THE EXISTING LANDSCAPE EDGE ON LOT EIGHT, WHICH IS ALREADY ESTABLISHED AND ALIGNED WITH THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY.

THE SECOND IMAGE, TAKEN DURING RUSH HOUR, SHOWS THE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED RIGHT TURN LANE TO HELP REDUCE THE CONGESTION AND IMPROVE ACCESS.

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THERE ARE TWO PROVISIONS TO ALLOW A LANDSCAPE EDGE REDUCTION.

THE FIRST REQUIRES 40FT OF LANDSCAPING BETWEEN THE BACK OF THE CURVE OF THE STREET, INCLUDING THE RIGHT OF WAY AND THE LANDSCAPE EDGE.

THE APPLICANT PROVIDES ONLY 33FT, SO IT DOES NOT QUALIFY FOR AN AUTOMATIC REDUCTION.

THE SECOND ALLOWS UP TO 15 FOOT REDUCTION IF THE FULL REQUIREMENT WOULD PREVENT REASONABLE DEVELOPMENT IN A SAFE AND EFFICIENT MANNER.

UNDER THIS PROVISION, THE APPLICANT REQUESTS A REDUCTION FROM 30FT TO 19FT.

IF APPROVED, THERE WILL BE 19FT OF LANDSCAPE EDGE ON SITE, AS SHOWN IN GREEN IN THE IMAGE ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, AND AN ADDITIONAL 14FT OF LANDSCAPING WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY.

THE REQUEST REDUCTION ACCOMMODATES THE REQUIRED TURN LANES WHILE MAINTAINING SAFE AND EFFICIENT SIDE CIRCULATION.

IT ALIGNS WITH ADJACENT PROPERTY AND PRESERVE A CONSISTENT STREETSCAPE, MEETING THE SPIRIT OF THE ORDINANCE.

RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE REQUIRED FINDINGS BEING MET TO ALLOW A REDUCTION OF THE LANDSCAPE EDGE SHOWN ON THE PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN.

AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT IS ALSO HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM.

THANK YOU. I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION. THE WORD FINDINGS HAS A UNIQUE MEANING FOR US.

IS THIS ACTUAL FINDINGS FOR THIS ACTION. SO IT'S USUALLY WRITTEN INTO THE STAFF REPORT. THERE'S A LIST OF THE THINGS THAT THE COMMISSION NEEDS TO FIND.

SO IN THIS CASE THIS COMMISSION IS A GENERAL SENSE OF THE WORD FINDINGS, NOT THE FINDINGS FORMS LIKE YOU'RE USED TO WITH ZONING CASES.

IN THIS CASE YOU'RE NEEDING TO FIND THAT IT IS NEEDED TO MAINTAIN EFFICIENT CIRCULATION AND ACCESS AND SAFETY FOR THE SITE.

OKAY. IT'S NOT, WE'RE NOT FILLING OUT AN ACTUAL FINDINGS FORM. CORRECT.

PER OUR PROTOCOLS. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE RIGHT DEFINITION OF THAT ITEM.

SO OKAY, THAT WAS MY QUESTION. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? COMMISSIONER ALALI. SO I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. YOU KNOW, LIKE THE DRIVE AISLES ARE 30 FOOT WIDE.

ARE THESE REQUIRED OR CAN THEY NARROW THEM SO THEY PUSH EVERYTHING EASTWARD? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE DRIVE, THE DRIVE AISLES INSIDE THE SITE? LIKE THERE ARE TWO LIKE THIS ONE IS THE ONE ON THE EAST SIDE.

IT'S 30 FOOT WIDE. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO. SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DRIVE AISLE.

INSIDE THE SITE? INSIDE THE SITE. SO IT. NOT ON THE NORTH SIDE.

ON THE EAST SIDE. ON THE EAST SIDE. YEAH. YOU KNOW LIKE BEHIND THOSE PROPOSED RESTAURANTS.

YES. SO IT IS 30. IS IT REQUIRED TO BE 30 OR CAN THEY PUSH EVERYTHING? LIKE THEY CAN PUSH IT MAYBE LIKE SIX FOOT TO MAKE IT 24.

SO THE 30FT IS AN EXISTING DRIVE AISLE GOING TO THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT.

IT'S EXISTING RIGHT NOW. IT COULD BE LESSER, BUT THE 30FT IS LIKE WHAT I SAID, EXISTING.

EXISTING. AND MY OTHER QUESTION IS LIKE, ARE THESE PARKING SPACES THE PROPOSED ONE WITH THE RESTAURANTS? ARE THESE SIZED FOR A RESTAURANT? I MEAN, LIKE, THAT'S WHY THEY HAD THOSE NUMBER OF PARKING AND THEY CAN'T REDUCE THEM TO GET MORE LANDSCAPE. SO THE NUMBER OF PARKING IS ACTUALLY PER SQUARE FOOT.

SO THE AMOUNT OF PARKING THAT THEY HAVE ARE ACTUALLY WHAT'S REQUIRED PER SQUARE FOOTAGE.

YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO THEY CAN'T REDUCE THE PARKING TO GET MORE LAND.

IT CAN BE MORE, BUT IT CANNOT BE LESSER UNLESS THEY ASK FOR A REDUCTION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? OKAY. DON'T HAVE ANY. I KNOW THE APPLICANT IS HERE IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. DOES ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? NOBODY.

OKAY. THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM. SO WE DO NOT HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.

SO COMMISSION. COMMISSIONER LINGENFELTER. I FIND THAT THIS MAKES SENSE.

IT'S GOING TO LINE UP WITH THE ADJOINING PROPERTIES.

IT DOES SEEM LIKE IT'S A NECESSARY THING TO DO FOR THE, FOR THESE RIGHT TURN LANES TO BE THAT WOULD DEFINITELY IMPROVE THE TRAFFIC PATTERN. SO I ACTUALLY RECOMMEND AND THAT WE APPROVE THIS AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF AND MOVE THAT WE RECOMMEND THIS.

OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION. COMMISSIONER BENDER. THANK YOU CHAIRMAN, I WOULD SECOND.

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OKAY. MOTION. IS THAT ADDRESS THE FINDINGS QUESTION AS FAR AS THE MOTION IS CONCERNED, DOES THAT ANSWER THAT? IT DOES, BECAUSE THE RECOMMENDATION WAS WRITTEN IN A WAY THAT INCORPORATES THE FINDINGS.

OKAY. WE TRIED TO MAKE IT EASY FOR Y'ALL. OKAY.

I'M SORRY. COMMISSIONER BROUNOFF I DID NOT LOOK TO SEE IF YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP, IF YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS. NO.

OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

THUMBS UP FROM COMMISSIONER BROUNOFF. MOTION PASSES 7 TO 0.

THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER TWO. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO.

[2. Preliminary Site Plan: Dickinson Addition, Block 1, Lot 1 – Car wash on one lot on 0.8 acre located at the southwest corner of K Avenue and 22nd Street. Zoned Light Commercial with Specific Use Permits No. 82 for Auto Manufacturing. Project #PSP2026-003. screening) ]

DICKINSON ADDITION BLOCK ONE LOT, ONE CAR WASH ON ONE LOT ON 0.8 ACRE.

LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF K AVENUE AND 22ND STREET.

ZONED LIGHT COMMERCIAL WITH SPECIFIC USE PERMITS, NUMBER 82 FOR AUTO LEASING FACILITY AND NUMBER 223 FOR LIGHT INTENSITY MANUFACTURING.

THE APPLICANT IS KIYA ENTERPRISE OF PLANO, LLC.

THIS ITEM IS FOR LEGISLATIVE CONSIDERATION OF RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY SCREENING.

THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING COMMISSION. I'M DESTINY WOODS, PLANNER WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

SO THIS PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN IS FOR A CAR WASH.

THERE IS ALREADY AN EXISTING CAR WASH ON THIS LOT CURRENTLY, BUT THAT WILL BE DEMOLISHED AND REPLACED WITH THE PROPOSED CAR WASH THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TODAY. SO THE IMAGE ON THE LEFT SHOWS THE AREA OF THE LOCATION AREA OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

AND ON THE RIGHT THE PROPOSED PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN.

A MINOR CHANGE WAS MADE TO THE PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN AFTER THE ITEM WAS POSTED ONLINE, AND THAT CHANGE WAS ONLY TO REFLECT AN EDIT IN A TABLE NOTING THE VARIANCES BEING REQUESTED.

SO ARTICLE 21.50 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE DOES ALLOW THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO REQUIRE SCREENING FOR A CAR WASH WHENEVER IT'S WITHIN 300FT OF A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT WHERE THAT SCREENING WOULD NOT NORMALLY BE REQUIRED BY THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

SO THERE IS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, SEVEN DISTRICT, ABOUT 240FT WEST OF THE CAR WASH FACILITIES.

AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A SIX FOOT HIGH MASONRY WALL FOR OVER HALF THE LENGTH OF THE WESTERN PROPERTY LINE AND HEADLIGHT SCREENING FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE PROPERTY LINE THAT FALLS WITHIN THE FRONT YARD SETBACK.

THERE'S ALSO A TWO STORY OFFICE BUILDING BETWEEN THE CAR WASH AND THE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT THAT WILL ALSO SERVE AS A BUFFER, AND STAFF FINDS THAT THE SCREENING, THE EXISTING TWO STORY BUILDING AND THAT THOSE THINGS ARE ADEQUATE TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT OF THE CAR WASH ON THE RESIDENTIAL AREA. SO THIS GRAPHIC IS SHOWING THE LOCATION OF THE MASONRY WALL AND THE LOCATION OF THE HEADLIGHT SCREENING. SO SHOWN IN YELLOW YOU CAN SEE THE EXTENT OF THE WALL.

AND IN RED IS THE SCREENING BOTH ON THE WESTERN PROPERTY LINE.

SO WHERE THE RED LINE ENDS IS WHERE THE RIGHT OF WAY WILL BEGIN.

SO HEADLIGHT SCREENING IS NOT BEING PROVIDED IN THAT AREA.

THIS PHOTO SHOWS THE VIEW ALONG 22ND STREET FROM THE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT BOUNDARY FACING THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AT THE BOTTOM OF THE CURVE ON THE STREET. AND THIS PHOTO SHOWS THE VIEW ALONG 22ND STREET FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FACING THE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT AT THE TOP OF THE CURVE ON THE STREET.

SO THE APPLICANT IS ALSO REQUESTING VARIANCES FROM THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT FOR VACUUMS AND CARPORTS EXCEEDING THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THE FRONT YARD SETBACK.

BUT THOSE VARIANCES ARE OUT OF THE SCOPE FOR THIS PRESENTATION.

AND THIS ITEM IS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING STIPULATIONS.

THE FIRST THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT APPROVAL OF A VARIANCE TO SUBSECTION 13.500.2.C TO ALLOW FRONT YARD TO BE CONSTRUCTED TEN FEET ABOVE THE GENERAL GROUND LEVEL. BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT APPROVAL FOR A VARIANCE TO SUBSECTION 13.900.3.B TO ALLOW A CARPORT WITHIN THE FRONT YARD SETBACK.

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THE CONSTRUCTION OF A SIX FOOT MASONRY SCREENING WALL TO SCREEN THE SITE FROM THE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.

HEADLIGHT SCREENING CONSISTING OF EVERGREEN SHRUBS ALONG THE WESTERN PROPERTY LINE WITHIN THE FRONT YARD.

SETBACK AND ADDITIONS OR ALTERATIONS TO THE ENGINEERING PLANS AS REQUIRED BY THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.

I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT IS ALSO HERE FOR QUESTIONS, IF YOU HAVE ANY.

OKAY. ONE QUICK QUESTION FOR ME. SO BETWEEN THIS SITE AND THE RESIDENTIAL IS NOT JUST A TWO STORY OFFICE BUILDING, IT'S ALSO THE DART RAIL CORRIDOR, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. I KNOW ONE OF OUR ISSUES WITH CAR WASHES IS NOISE.

SO IT'S NOT JUST A BUILDING. WE ALSO HAVE A RAIL LINE.

ACTIVE RAIL LINE. YES. THAT'S RIGHT. GREAT. THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER LINGENFELTER. I JUST HAD A QUESTION ABOUT WHY DID THEY NOT EXTEND THAT MASONRY WALL THROUGH THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE SITE. YEAH. SO IF IT'S EXTENDED, I'LL BRING THAT VIEW BACK UP.

BUT IF THE WALL IS EXTENDED INTO WHERE THE RED IS, IT WOULD BE IN THE FRONT YARD SETBACK, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE MORE VARIANCES FOR THE SITE.

AND THEN IT ALSO POSED CHALLENGES WITH TOPOGRAPHY AND BEING ABLE TO SEE COMING OFF OF 22ND AROUND THE CURVE.

COMMISSIONER OLLEY. JUST ONE, YOU SAID THERE'S AN OLD CAR WASH ON SITE THAT'S BEEN DEMOLISHED.

WHAT WAS THE SCREENING FOR THAT ONE WAS IN PLACE.

SO THE CAR WASH HASN'T BEEN DEMOLISHED YET, BUT IT WILL BE THERE'S CURRENTLY SHRUBBERY ALONG THE WESTERN PROPERTY LINE.

BUT IT ONLY EXTENDS UP TO ABOUT WHERE THAT WALL IS, IS BEING PROPOSED.

IT DOESN'T EXTEND TO THE PROPERTY LINE. IT'S JUST SHRUBS NOT EXCEEDING THE TYPICAL HEIGHT OF HEADLIGHT SCREENING.

FROM A REQUIREMENT PERSPECTIVE. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

I THINK THE REQUIREMENT IS ON HEIGHT OF THE SCREENING, NOT NECESSARILY ON THE TYPE OF THE SCREENING.

SO IF IT WAS A SIX FOOT LIVING SCREEN, WOULD THAT SUFFICE? SO I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY BACKWARDS IF I'M UNDERSTANDING YOUR QUESTION CORRECTLY.

THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT FOR SCREENING. IT'S JUST THAT IF THIS COMMISSION SEES THAT SCREENING SHOULD BE PROVIDED, THEN YOU CAN RECOMMEND SOME SORT OF SCREENING.

THEY'RE PROVIDING A SIX FOOT MASONRY WALL. BECAUSE THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT WE SEE TO SCREEN JUST, YOU KNOW, FOR SCREENING WALL, BUT THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY REQUIRED.

OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? NONE. OH, MICHAEL. SORRY. COMMISSIONER BROUNOFF.

YES. THANK YOU. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. YES. OKAY.

NOW, HAVE THERE BEEN ANY COMPLAINTS FROM THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS WITH REGARD TO THE PRESENT CAR WASH? THERE'S BEEN NO COMPLAINTS THAT I'VE RECEIVED SINCE THIS HAS BEEN POSTED, BUT WE CAN CONFIRM THAT WITH THE PROPERTY STANDARDS DIVISION AFTER THIS. OKAY. IS THE NEW CAR WASH EXPECTED TO PRODUCE LIKE GREATER IMPACT ON THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD IN TERMS OF NOISE OR, OR LIGHT THAN THE EXISTING ONE DOES? THE ONLY IMPACT THAT I CAN SEE BEING GREATER WOULD BE THE VACUUM PUMPS THAT ARE STATIONED CLOSER TO THE WESTERN PROPERTY LINE. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY OTHER.

OKAY. BUT THE, THE APPLICANT IS, PROPOSING AND IS WILLING TO PUT IN THE WALL AND THE HEADLIGHT SCREENING.

THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? COMMISSIONER LINGENFELTER.

CAN YOU DEFINE THE HEADLIGHT SCREENING? LIKE THE HEIGHT OF THE SHRUBS OR WHAT? WHAT ARE WE? IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S JUST GOING UP TO ABOVE THE BUMPER ABOVE THE HOOD OF A CAR.

RIGHT. SO IT'S TYPICALLY ABOUT 18IN OFF THE GROUND.

IF SOMEONE COULD VERIFY THAT FOR ME. BUT YES, TYPICALLY IT WOULD JUST BE SCREENING THE HEADLIGHTS OF A VEHICLE, NOT NECESSARILY COMING UP AS HIGH AS A SCREENING WALL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IT COULD BE LIKE THE SAME HEIGHT AS A WING WALL IF THAT WERE THERE.

BUT IT'S REALLY JUST TO ADD JUST ANY EXTRA BARRIER THAT'S FEASIBLE IN THAT LOCATION.

WOULD IT BE FEASIBLE WITH, IT BEING THIS, IN THAT FRONT SIDE SETBACK, FRONT YARD SETBACK TO DO MAYBE SOMETHING LIKE A LIVING SCREEN THAT MATCHES THE HEIGHT OF THE WALL. SO IT ALL JUST KIND OF IS A LITTLE MORE CONTINUOUS ACROSS.

SO I'M NOT SURE IF A LIVING SCREEN WOULD HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS FOR VISIBILITY AND LIKE TOPOGRAPHY CHANGING.

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IF I CAN ANSWER THAT ONE FOR YOU, THERE'S A VISIBILITY TRIANGLE.

YOU CAN SEE IT ON THE PLAN AND YEAH, YEAH, YOU CAN'T PUT ANYTHING THAT TALL IN THAT VISIBILITY TRIANGLE.

IN THAT TRIANGLE, BUT. OH, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE STRIPING THERE? YEAH, THAT'S NOT A VISIBILITY TRIANGLE. OH IT'S NOT.

IT'S JUST STRIPING FOR LIKE TO GET PEOPLE NOT TO DRIVE OVER.

OKAY. WELL, FROM A SAFETY PERSPECTIVE, THAT SHOULD BE A VISIBILITY TRIANGLE.

OKAY. JUST TO CLARIFY, THE LANDSCAPE HEADLIGHT SCREENING REQUIRES THAT THEY BE FIVE GALLON MINIMUM SHRUBS THAT MUST BE A MATURE HEIGHT OF I JUST HAD IT HERE A SECOND AGO, 18 TO 40IN. I'M SORRY, 30 TO 42IN.

OKAY, SO MORE 3 TO 4FT. YES. THANK YOU. OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS HERE.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? OKAY.

NOT SEEING ANY. COMMISSION. COMMISSIONER BRONSKY.

I MOVE WE APPROVE THIS AGENDA ITEM AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.

COMMISSIONER ALALI. I'LL SECOND. A MOTION AND A SECOND.

PLEASE VOTE. COMMISSIONER BROUNOFF HAS A THUMBS UP.

MOTION PASSES 7 TO 0. ALRIGHT. THAT'S EVERYTHING ON OUR POSTED AGENDA.

IS THERE ANY OTHER BUSINESS BEFORE THE COMMISSION THIS EVENING? NO.

NO. NO OTHER MEETING. SO THIS MEETING WILL STAND ADJOURNED AT 6:21 P.M..

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.