>> I NOW DECLARE THAT THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL HAS RECONVENED IN OPEN SESSION,
[CALL TO ORDER]
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THAT ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.WE'LL BEGIN TONIGHT'S REGULAR MEETING WITH THE INVITATION LED BY SENIOR PASTOR RANDALL WORLEY, PRAIRIE CREEK BAPTIST CHURCH, AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND TEXAS PLEDGE, LED BY TROOP 890 G CHARTER ORGANIZATION CIRCLE 10 COUNCIL. WOULD YOU PLEASE RISE?
OUR GOD, WE COME BEFORE YOU IN NEED.
WE LIVE IN A FRACTURED TIMES WITH DIVISIVENESS AND HOSTILITY RISING AND LOVING UNITY AND HARMONY DIMINISHING.
AS WE ENTER INTO THIS SEASON OF REMEMBERING YOUR BIRTH, YOUR ENTRY INTO OUR WORLD TO SAVE AND RESCUE US FROM OUR DARKEST IMPULSES, OUR EYES TURN TO YOU.
THE PROPHETS OF OLD SAID THAT YOU WOULD BE OUR WONDERFUL COUNSELOR, ALMIGHTY GOD, EVERLASTING FATHER, PRINCE OF PEACE.
AS OUR CITY LEADERS MEET THIS EVENING TO DISCUSS HOW BEST TO GUIDE OUR CITY FORWARD, I PRAY THAT YOU WILL BE A WONDERFUL COUNSELOR TO THEM, PROVIDING THEM WITH INSIGHTS THEY WOULD NEVER HAVE HAD OTHERWISE, WITH SOLUTIONS THAT WILL BRING HARMONY AND UNITY AND LOVE AMONG THE MANY AND DIVERSE PEOPLE OF THIS CITY.
WE RECOGNIZE OUR LIMITATIONS, GOD.
AS FINITE BEINGS, THERE ARE MANY THINGS THAT ARE BEYOND OUR POWER BEYOND OUR CONTROL, WHERE OUR CITY LEADERS FALL SHORT, NOT FOR LACK OF DESIRE, BUT BECAUSE THEY FIND THEMSELVES POWERLESS TO DO ALL THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO.
WE TURN TO YOU, ALMIGHTY GOD, AND ASK THAT YOU DO FOR THIS CITY, WHAT OUR LEADERS CANNOT.
NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR YOU.
DO THE IMPOSSIBLE FOR OUR LEADERS.
I PRAY FOR THE PEOPLE OF THIS CITY, MANY WHO HAVE ARRIVED HERE FROM OTHER NATIONS.
THIS HAS BEEN A DIFFICULT YEAR FOR THOSE NOT BORN HERE.
WHERE HUMANS HAVE FAILED TO SHOW COMPASSION AND WELCOME.
I PRAY THAT THEY MAY FIND IN YOU, LORD JESUS, THE EVERLASTING FATHER WE ALL LONG FOR.
I PRAY THAT YOU WILL TOUCH THE HEARTS OF ALL WHO CLAIM TO KNOW YOU ALREADY AND FILL THEM WITH THE LOVE OF A FATHER FOR ALL THE CHILDREN OF ADAM IN THIS CITY.
MAY NO ONE BE EXCLUDED FROM THE WARMTH OF THE FAMILY.
MAY WE ALL DISCOVER THE JOY OF A FAMILY WELCOMED BY ONE FATHER? IN MANY WAYS, WE STAND DIVIDED, GOD.
OUR VIEWS ARE DRIVEN BY ALGORITHMS THAT FEED PROFIT MARGINS, WITH NO REGARD FOR THE HEALTH OF THE HUMAN FAMILY OR FOR OUR OWN INDIVIDUAL SANITY.
AS A NATION, AND I SUSPECT AS A CITY, WE STAND BITTERLY DIVIDED BY THE POLITICS OF OUR DAY.
IF EVER WE NEEDED A PRINCE OF PEACE, IT IS NOW.
I PRAY THAT YOU BRING OUR HEARTS BACK TO YOU SO THAT IN YOU, WE MAY RECOVER OUR SENSE OF FAMILY, A FAMILY THAT WAS ALWAYS INTENDED TO INCLUDE MANY LANGUAGES, CULTURES, COLORS, AND PERSPECTIVES.
MAKE THIS WONDERFULLY DIVERSE CITY OF PLANO, A SHINING EXAMPLE TO THE WORLD OF JUST HOW BEAUTIFULLY THIS HUMAN FAMILY CAN BE TOGETHER.
WE LIFT OUR EYES TO YOU, AND IT IS IN YOUR PRECIOUS NAME, LORD JESUS, THAT WE PRAY.
>> PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
>> PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE TEXAS PLEDGE.
>> COME BACK. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING THIS.
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>> YES. CAN YOU TAKE A PICTURE?
>> COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST.
[COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST]
>> COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST.
THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING IS TO ALLOW UP TO THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER, WITH 30 TOTAL MINUTES ON ITEMS OF INTEREST OR CONCERN AND NOT ON ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE CURRENT AGENDA.
THE COUNCIL MAY NOT DISCUSS THESE ITEMS, BUT MAY RESPOND WITH FACTUAL OR POLICY INFORMATION.
THE COUNCIL MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA.
>> WE HAVE SEVERAL SPEAKERS TONIGHT, AND SO I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO REDUCE IT DOWN TO TWO MINUTES EACH, IF YOU WILL. WE'LL GET STARTED.
>> THE FIRST SPEAKER IS LEE LASTING.
HE WAS TO BE ON ZOOM, JUST CHECKING TO SEE IF HE'S IN THE CHAMBER.
THE NEXT SPEAKER IS NANCY HAMPTON THOMAS.
>> HELLO, ESTEEMED COUNCIL AND MAYORSHIP.
I AM AN EMPLOYEE AT THE TOM THUMB OVER ON ALMA AND HEDGE COP.
I USE DART EVERY DAY TO BE ABLE TO GET TO AND FROM WORK, AND ALSO TO BUY GROCERIES AND SEVERAL OTHER THINGS THAT I NEED TO DO TO FUNCTION AS A CITIZEN OF PLANO.
I HAVE FELT RECENTLY THAT AS A BODY, YOU HAVE BEEN IGNORING THE ONES OF THE CITIZENSHIP OF PLANO TO KEEP DART.
I KNOW AT A PREVIOUS MEETING, IT WAS OVERWHELMINGLY IN SUPPORT OF DART, AND YOU CHOSE TO IGNORE THAT TO PUT IT UP TO A VOTE.
WHICH, IF DONE, AND IF IT IS CHOSEN FOR DART TO BE REMOVED FROM PLANO, WILL ADVERSELY AFFECT LARGE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE, INCLUDING MYSELF, POSSIBLY RENDERING PEOPLE UNABLE TO GET TO WORK AND RENDERING THEM HOMELESS.
SORRY, I FEEL THAT WHAT I HAVE HEARD THAT YOU PLAN TO DO IN CASE THAT HAPPENS IS INSUFFICIENT TO MEET THE NEEDS OF PLANO.
MOSTLY, I'VE HEARD, IS ONLY PARA-TRANSITS, WHICH IS IMPORTANT.
BUT FOR THE AVERAGE CITIZEN THAT REQUIRES [OVERLAPPING].
>> PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, AS I SAID, INSUFFICIENT.
I APPRECIATE THE TIME SPENT LISTENING TO ME, AND THANK YOU.
>> THE NEXT SPEAKER IS EMBER CHAFFIN.
>> HI, I'M BACK. MY NAME IS EMBER, I LIVE AT 6413 MONAGHAN'S COURT, AND I WANTED TO TELL YOU WHAT I'VE FOUND DURING MY RESEARCH OVER THE LAST TWO WEEKS.
I'VE CONTINUED RESEARCHING THE CLAIMS DRIVING THIS WITHDRAWAL EFFORT.
IF VOTERS ARE BEING ASKED TO MAKE A DECISION OF THIS SCALE, THEY DESERVE FACTS, NOT ASSUMPTIONS.
WE'VE REPEATEDLY HEARD THAT DART INCREASES DEMAND ON PLANO POLICE.
TO EVALUATE THAT, I SUBMITTED PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST FOR CALL FOR SERVICE DATA TIED SPECIFICALLY TO PLANO DART STATIONS.
THEIR PARK AND RIDES FOR THE BUS, AS WELL AS THE TRAIN.
THE CALLS ARE NOT DISPROPORTIONATELY HIGH.
IN FACT, SINCE THE BEGINNING OF 2024, PLANO PD HAVE GONE OUT FOR SIX ASSAULT CALLS,
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WHICH IS ABOUT THE SAME AS ANY OTHER PUBLIC SPACE IN PLANO.THERE'S NO EVIDENCE THAT THE DART STATION DRIVES ELEVATED CRIME IN PLANO.
DART MAINTAINS ITS OWN FULLY ACCREDITED POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE LARGEST TRANSIT POLICE FORCES IN THE COUNTRY.
THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR PATROL, ENFORCEMENT, RESPONSE AND INVESTIGATIONS.
PLANO PD DOES ASSIST AS NEEDED, LIKE MANY OTHER REGIONAL PUBLIC SAFETY PARTNERSHIPS.
IF DART SERVICE IS REDUCED OR REMOVED, THAT RESPONSIBILITY SHIFTS ONTO PLANO, THAT HAS MORE WORKLOAD, MORE STAFFING DEMANDS, AND MORE LOCAL COST.
I'VE ALSO HEARD THAT DART ISN'T GIVING US THE NUMBERS YOU NEED.
HOWEVER, THE DART PROVIDES THE SAME METHODOLOGY THAT EVERY US TRANSIT SYSTEM MUST USE.
THEY, THEREFORE, MAINTAIN THEIR COMPLIANCE WITH THE FEDERAL TRANSIT ADMINISTRATION AND THE NATIONAL TRANSIT DATABASE.
THIS INCLUDES THE FIXED ROUTE BOARDINGS, THE PARA-TRANSIT BOOKINGS, MICRO-TRANSIT VISITS.
>> OH, 20 SECONDS. ANYWAY, THE DATA IS NOT INSUFFICIENT, IT'S STANDARDIZED, JUST BECAUSE YOU GUYS DON'T LIKE THE DATA, DOESN'T MEAN IT'S WRONG.
ALONG WITH THAT, YOU GUYS HAVE ALL ADMITTED, ACCORDING TO EY, PLANO GETS 44 MILLION IN VALUE FROM DART, AND YET THE CITY IS TRYING TO REPLACE IT WITH FOUR MILLION.
THAT IS NOT EXCELLENCE. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]
AS SHE MENTIONED, I'M CRYSTAL CURRY.
I AM STILL DEALING WITH A LOT OF WHAT I CALL MALICIOUS MISCHIEF AROUND THE CITY.
I'M CONTINUOUSLY HIGHLIGHTING THOSE CONCERNS THE BEST WAY THAT I POSSIBLY CAN.
THINGS HEIGHTEN, AND THEN THEY ABATE.
I'VE LEARNED JUST TO DOCUMENT THOSE THINGS AND PASS THEM ALONG AS THEY HAPPEN.
I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING UP WITH CONGRESSIONAL REPRESENTATIVES TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS ISSUE IS HEARD WITH THEM.
YOU GUYS ARE AWARE OF WHO THOSE PEOPLE ARE.
THOSE PEOPLE ARE THE ONES THAT I NAMED AT THE LAST COUPLE OF MEETINGS.
THEY REPRESENT CONGRESSWOMAN JULIE JOHNSON, AND ALSO CONGRESSWOMAN JASMINE CROCKETT.
THEN THE OTHER CONGRESS REPRESENTATIVES ARE PAT FALLON.
UNFORTUNATELY, I CALLED HIS OFFICE, AND THE WOMAN, THE INTERN, SHARIKA, THAT I SPOKE TO SAID THAT THERE'S NOTHING THAT THEY PLAN TO DO WITH THIS ISSUE, WHICH I FIND VERY DISAPPOINTING, OBVIOUSLY.
BUT I THINK THAT THE REASON IS BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.
A PART OF THAT IS I'M ASKING THEM TO ESCALATE THIS TO THE CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEE, WHICH I THINK WOULD LIKELY FALL UP UNDER THE AI COMMITTEE.
THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE THAT I KNOW THAT CAN HANDLE SOMETHING THIS COMPLEX AND OF THIS MAGNITUDE.
AT THIS POINT, THAT'S THE DIRECTION I FEEL LIKE I SHOULD GO BECAUSE I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE OR KNOW ANYWHERE ELSE TO GO.
I'M CONTINUOUSLY FOLLOWING UP WITH YOU GUYS.
JUST TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE, AND ALSO TO ASK IF THAT LAST PAGE OF THE SLIDE DECK [OVERLAPPING].
>> I SAID HOW CAN PLANO HELP? IF YOU HAVE ANY WAYS THAT, I LISTED A BUNCH OF THINGS ON THERE.
THERE'S ANY UPDATE ON THAT, I WOULD APPRECIATE HEARING FROM YOU ABOUT THAT.
OTHER THAN THAT, MY MOTHER JUST SENT ME A PICTURE OF MY GREAT AUNT, WHICH IS MY GRANDFATHER'S SISTER, AND SHE'S INDIAN.
SHE'S A VERY BEAUTIFUL WOMAN, BUT THE REASON I BROUGHT THAT UP IS BECAUSE PART OF THIS FIGHT IS FOR THEM.
THEY PAID THE PRICE ALREADY FOR ME TO HAVE THE FREEDOM TO DO THIS.
>> BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. APPRECIATE IT.
>> THE NEXT SPEAKER IS ARTHUR ALLEN.
>> MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
I'M REALLY GLAD THAT THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION COVERED THE PROPERTY AT DAVIS ELEMENTARY AND THE OTHER PROPERTIES AROUND THE CITY.
MY MAIN PURPOSE IN COMING HERE WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CHART THAT WAS SHOWN IN THAT PRESENTATION WAS SHOWN.
I THINK THAT SOME OF THE CONCERNS OF THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA IS THAT THE CITY HASN'T EVEN BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY YET, BUT THEY ALREADY HAVE DESIGNS FOR ALL THESE HOUSES, APARTMENTS, AND SO FORTH.
A LOT OF RESIDENTS REALLY FEEL LIKE IT'S A DONE DEAL AND NOTHING THAT WE SAY WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
BUT I HOPE THAT YOU DO LOOK AT THE DATA AS OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS, I HOPE YOU LOOK AT THE WISHES OF THE PEOPLE, AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN COME UP WITH
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SOME PLAN FOR A PARK OR SOME PUBLIC USE INSTEAD OF EITHER PUBLIC HOUSING OR PRIVATE HOUSING.THAT'S ABOUT IT. THAT'S WHAT I HAD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
I LIVE IN THE DURHAM ARMSTRONG SCHOOL SECTION, WHERE THE RESIDENTS ARE, AND I APPRECIATE THAT THOSE SLIDES SHOW THAT THEY HAD LOTS OF NEIGHBORHOOD INTERVIEWING FOR PEOPLE TO COME IN AND SIT DOWN AND TALK.
I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT, AND I LIVE DIRECTLY IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. I DIDN'T GET A FLYER.
I OWN A BUSINESS IN THE COMMUNITY.
I GET MY INFORMATION BASICALLY FROM PEOPLE THAT HAVE HEARD SOMETHING OR READ SOMETHING, OR FOUND A SNIPPET SOMEWHERE.
CAN WE PUT A SIGN UP SOMEWHERE WE CAN GOOGLE IT OR THIS IS THE SITE TO GO TO FOR OUR SCHOOLS THAT HAVE CLOSED. THIS IS THE PROPERTY.
THIS IS WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE SET BECAUSE I'VE HEARD TWO CONDOS HOUSES.
WE'VE HEARD JUST EVERYBODY IS SPECULATING.
I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYTHING HAS BEEN DONE OR HASN'T BEEN DECIDED, BUT THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE RESIDENTS, WE DON'T KNOW THAT, AND IT'S NOT BEING WELL COMMUNICATED FROM YOU ALL TO US.
IF WE COULD DO A BETTER JOB WITH THAT, THAT WOULD BE AMAZING. THANKS.
>> TRACY WOODS. LESTIA NELSON.
>> HELLO. MY NAME IS LESTIA NELSON, AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF MY DAUGHTER, SANIA RES.
SANIA IS A 19-YEAR-OLD NONVERBAL, SEVERELY DISABLED YOUNG WOMAN WHO DEPENDS ON US FOR EVERY SINGLE ASPECT OF HER DAILY LIFE.
TONIGHT MARKS 320 DAYS SINCE SHE WAS ABUSED BY HER TEACHER, SHARON ROSEBORO, ON VIDEO INSIDE HER PLANO ISD CLASSROOM.
BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE, I NEED THIS COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT WAS DONE TO MY DAUGHTER.
SHARON ROSEBORO BENT HER FINGERS BACKWARDS, NEARLY TOUCHING HER FOREARM.
SHE SQUEEZED SANIA'S FEET SO HARD DAMAGING HER FOOT.
SHE ELBOWED HER IN THE FACE AND THEN AGAIN IN HER HEAD, CAUSING MY DAUGHTER TO SLIDE DOWN INTO HER WHEELCHAIR.
THEN, LIFTING HER UP BY HER NECK TO FORCE HER UPRIGHT IN HER WHEELCHAIR.
EVERY TIME MY DAUGHTER WAS ASSAULTED, SHE CRIED OUT IN PAIN.
BECAUSE OF THIS ABUSE, SANIA HAS LOST RANGE OF MOTION IN HER NECK AND STRUGGLES TO BEAR WEIGHT ON HER FEET WHEN SHE'S PLACED IN HER STAND.
SHE STARTLES WHEN A SPOON COMES NEAR HER MOUTH BECAUSE THEY USED TO SCARE HER IN THE CLASSROOM FOR FUN.
IF I ASSAULTED SANIA IN ONE OF THE WAYS SHARON ROSEBORO DID, RIGHT NOW, I'LL BE IN HANDCUFFS IN 30 SECONDS.
SHARON DID ALL OF THEM ON VIDEO, AND SHE'S STILL FREE.
LET ME SUMMARIZE WHERE WE STAND.
VIDEO EVIDENCE EXISTS, AUDIO EVIDENCE EXISTS.
MEDICAL DOCUMENTATIONS EXISTS, ADULT PROTECTIVE SERVICES FOUND ABUSE AND ENDANGERMENT.
PISD STAFF CONFIRMED EXCESSIVE AND ABUSIVE FORCE.
AFTER 320 DAYS, THERE IS STILL NO ARRESTS, NO INDICTMENT, AND NO ACCOUNTABILITY.
PLAINTIFF POLICE WITHHELD THIS FELONY CASE FOR 303 DAYS, AND AFTER I SENT LETTERS, THE ONLY THING I RECEIVED WAS A VICTIM SUPPORTING MAILING TWO WEEKS AGO OVER 300 DAYS LATER.
THE DA'S OFFICE NOW SAID IT COULD TAKE MONTHS JUST FOR A PROSECUTOR TO SEE THIS CASE.
MEANWHILE, ACROSS COLLIN COUNTY, A TEACHER IN ANNA WAS ARRESTED IN THREE DAYS, AND PRINCETON INDICTED WITHIN MONTHS, AND IN PLANO, A DAYCARE WORKER ARRESTED THREE DAYS AFTER HER INCIDENT.
FIRST, I WOULD ASK FOR YOU GUYS TO PUBLICLY SUPPORT THE INDICTMENT AND PROSECUTION OF SHARON ROSEBORO.
SECOND, INITIATE A TRANSPARENT REVIEW INTO WHY PLANO POLICE WITHHELD A COMPLETE FELONY CASE NEARLY A YEAR.
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>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS ALVIN NELSON.
I'M ALSO THE FATHER OF SANIA RES HERE.
HER PARENT, AND SHE'S A 19-YEAR-OLD, YOU KNOW, SEVERELY DISABLED NON-VERBAL YOUNG WOMAN, AND SHE CANNOT SPEAK OR DEFEND HERSELF.
FOR 320 DAYS, OUR FAMILY'S BEEN TRYING TO NAVIGATE A SYSTEM THAT HAS GIVEN US ONLY A DELAY, SILENCE, AND NO MEANINGFUL COMMUNICATION.
THE PLAINTIFF, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, HAS HELD A COMPLETED FELONY CASE FOR 303 DAYS.
BEFORE FINALLY FORWARDING IT TO THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY.
DURING THAT TIME, MY WIFE AND I HAVE REACHED OUT REPEATEDLY THROUGH EMAILS, PHONE CALLS, AND CERTIFIED LETTERS TO THE MAYOR, THE CHIEF OF POLICE, THE CITY MANAGER, AND PLACE 3.
NO ONE RESPONDED, NOT EVEN TO OUR CERTIFIED MAIL.
THE ONLY ACKNOWLEDGMENT WE HAVE EVENTUALLY RECEIVED WAS A VICTIM SUPPORT PACKET MAILED MORE THAN 300 DAYS LATE, AND ONLY AFTER OUR CERTIFIED LETTERS FORCED THE CITY'S HAND.
NOW WE HAVE REACHED THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, AND WE ARE TOLD THE CASE HAS NOT EVEN BEEN PROCESSED AND COULD TAKE MONTHS BEFORE A PROSECUTOR IS EVEN ASSIGNED.
NEARLY A YEAR OF DELAY AT THE CITY LEVEL HAS NOW BECOME A DELAY AT THE COUNTY LEVEL AS WELL.
YET WE LOOK ACROSS COLLIN COUNTY, AND THE PATTERN FOR OTHER VICTIMS IS UNDENIABLE.
AS MY WIFE STATED, ANNA ISD, I REMIND YOU THE TEACHER WAS ARRESTED IN THREE DAYS.
PRINCETON ISD, THERE WAS AN INDICTMENT AND ARREST WITHIN MONTHS.
SELINA ISD, THERE WAS IMMEDIATE ARREST.
THEN, AS SHE MENTIONED, PLANO DAYCARE, THERE WAS ARRESTED WITHIN THREE DAYS.
EVERY ONE OF THESE CHILDREN RECEIVED FASTER PROTECTION AND FASTER JUSTICE THAN MY DAUGHTER, SANIA, AND THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THAT SHE IS DISABLE, AND SANIA CANNOT SPEAK FOR HERSELF.
THIS COUNCIL HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DEMONSTRATE REAL LEADERSHIP TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE 303-DAY DELAY, TO ADDRESS THE COMMUNICATION FAILURES, AND TO ASSURE THAT DISABLED VICTIMS RECEIVE THE SAME URGENCY, HUMANITY, AND PROTECTION AS EVERY OTHER CHILD IN COLLIN COUNTY.
FOR 320 DAYS, MY DAUGHTER HAS WAITED FOR JUSTICE.
MY DAUGHTER CANNOT SPEAK, SO I MUST SPEAK FOR HER UNTIL THE CITY RESPONDS WITH THE ACCOUNTABILITY SHE DESERVES. THANK YOU.
>> GOOD EVENING, COUNSEL, BILL LISLE, PLANO, TEXAS.
ADMITTEDLY, I HAVE MISSED THE BUS ON THIS ISSUE, AND IT'S NOT A DART BUS.
BACK ON NOVEMBER 10TH, ITEM J WAS ON YOUR CONSENT AGENDA, AND IT DEALT WITH THE NEW FEES FROM THE ENGINEERING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
I WANTED TO JUST SPEAK UP ABOUT A LOT OF THESE FEES.
A LOT OF THEM HAVE JUST JUMPED BY 10 TIMES.
A SPECIFIC ONE I WANT TO BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO IS A PLANNING DIRECTOR INTERPRETATION.
IT USED TO COST $0, BUT NOW, IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION OF THE PLANNING DIRECTOR AND IT REQUIRES AN INTERPRETATION, IT'S $2,400 TO GET THAT QUESTION ANSWERED.
IF YOUR ONLY MEANS OF DEALING WITH THAT, IF YOU DISAGREE WITH HER ANSWER, AND YOU THINK THE ORDINANCE ACTUALLY SAYS SOMETHING ELSE, IS TO APPEAL IT.
THE APPEAL TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS A FINAL DETERMINATION.
IF YOU WANT TO APPEAL IT, IT'S ANOTHER $2,400.
I DON'T THINK THAT THESE FEES ARE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT IT WOULD COST.
I THINK THAT THE INTERPRETATION IS DEALING WITH A DISCREPANCY IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE WITH AN AGGRIEVED PARTY.
I UNDERSTAND IF YOU HAVE TO, AND PLANNING DIRECTOR KNOWS THE ORDINANCE IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
THE ONE THAT I BROUGHT MANY YEARS AGO WAS, WHAT IS THE INSIDE AND WHAT IS THE OUTSIDE OF A CURB? THAT WAS THE QUESTION.
THE PLANNING DIRECTOR SAID THAT THE INSIDE OF THE CURB WAS THE OUTSIDE, AND I WAS SAYING THAT THE ACTUAL OUTSIDE OUTSIDE WAS THE OUTSIDE.
RICOR, YOU'LL RECALL YOU WERE ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE.
TO DO THAT TODAY WOULD COST ME $4,800.
YOU'RE THE ONE COMMISSIONER AT THE TIME THAT VOTED THAT THE PLANNING DIRECTOR WAS WRONG.
>> MY ENCOURAGEMENT, THESE FEES GO BACK INTO EFFECT ON JANUARY 1ST. TAKE A LOOK AT THEM.
I THINK THAT IF YOU DON'T, THE STATE WILL PROBABLY GET INVOLVED AS THEY HAVE IN OTHER THINGS.
I THINK THAT THE FEES OUGHT TO BE REASONABLE.
I DON'T THINK THAT THIS SPECIFIC FEE, WITH THE PLANNING DIRECTOR'S INTERPRETATION, IS CONSISTENT WITH AN OPEN, ACCOUNTABLE, OR TRANSPARENT GOVERNMENT.
>> HELLO. MY NAME IS IAN GRAHAM.
I'M AN ELECTRICAL ENGINEER AT TEXAS INSTRUMENTS, AND I LIVED IN PLANO SINCE I STARTED AT TI3 YEARS AGO.
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IN THAT TIME, I DON'T OWN A CAR.I'VE USED DART TO COMMUTE TO AND FROM WORK EVERY DAY.
IF PLANO LEAVES DART, I'LL HAVE TO MOVE.
I DON'T WANT TO, BUT I LOVE PLANO.
BUT THAT'S JUST HOW IT WOULD BE IF MY COMMUTE WOULD BE SEVERELY DISRUPTED.
SINCE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I HAVE TO DO EVERY DAY.
THERE'S JUST NO GETTING AROUND THAT.
I JUST WANTED TO TAKE THE TIME TO REGISTER THAT TO THE CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD AS I SAID, JUST REQUIRE ME TO UPROOT MY LIFE AND MOVE SOMEWHERE WHERE I WOULDN'T ENJOY IT AS MUCH.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THAT'S ALL I REALLY WANTED TO SAY.
I AM SPEAKING ON THE ARMSTRONG PROPERTY.
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE TIME TO DO THAT OR IF I SHOULD WAIT.
I AM NATIVE AMERICAN, NATIVE TEXAN.
THE REASON THAT I SAY THAT IS OVER WHERE ARMSTRONG IS, THERE IS A LOT OF NATURE THERE.
WE USED TO GO HUNT FOR ARROWHEADS IN THAT CREEK.
MY PARENTS AND I HAVE BEEN RESIDENTS THERE FOR 56 YEARS.
WE WERE THE FIRST HOUSE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I UNDERSTAND THAT Y'ALL ARE CONSIDERING HOUSING. WE DON'T WANT THAT.
WE WANT TO KEEP IT A NATURE PRESERVE.
DR. WAYNE HENDRICK, WHEN HE BUILT ARMSTRONG, WHICH MY PARENTS WERE ACTUALLY ON THE COMMITTEES TO BUILD ARMSTRONG ON THE COMMITTEE TO BRING A SENIOR HIGH ON OUR SIDE OF TOWN, PLANO EAST, ON THE COMMITTEE TO BRING A COLLEGE TO COLLIN COUNTY, BECAUSE THE ONLY THING WE HAD WAS DALLAS COMMUNITY.
DR. WAYNE HENDRICK, WHEN HE THOUGHT OF THE PLANS FOR ARMSTRONG, HE ALSO PULLED THE NEIGHBORS.
HE WANTED TO KEEP IT THE SCHOOL, BUT HE WANTED TO KEEP IT NATURAL AROUND THE SCHOOL.
HE WANTED TO KEEP EAST PLANO NATURAL.
WEST PLANO WAS THE URBAN SIDE.
EAST PLANO WAS A NATURAL SIDE.
WHEN YOU WALK THROUGH THERE, THE NATURE PRESERVE THAT IS BACK THERE, BOB WOODROF PARK.
IT IS SUCH A SENSE OF CALM AND PEACE.
YOU CAN HEAR THE TREES WRESTLING.
WE NEED PLACES LIKE THAT IN PLANO.
WE CAN'T JUST URBANIZE EVERYTHING.
PEACE OF MIND, NATURE, TEACHING THE CHILDREN HUNTING FOR [OVERLAPPING] THIS IS NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART.
IT'S NEAR AND DEAR TO MY PARENTS' HEARTS.
BUT IT HURTS HER HEART TO KNOW THAT, WE CHOSE THIS AREA.
THE NEIGHBORS WHO LIVE HERE CHOSE THIS AREA FOR THE PURPOSE OF NATURE.
PLEASE DON'T RUIN IT BY BUILDING MORE HOUSES, TOWN HOMES THAT CAN BE BUILT ANYWHERE. THANK YOU.
>> THE LAST SPEAKER IS HARPER WEAVER.
>> COUNSEL, CAN YOU HEAR ME? I'M SURE THAT MEN AND YOU ARE EXPECTING ME TO TALK ABOUT THE SCHOOLS SINCE I RAN FOR SCHOOL BOARD AND MET A LOT OF YOU AND GOT TO KNOW YOU PERSONALLY DURING THAT.
BUT TONIGHT, I'VE SIGNED UP TO TALK ABOUT SANIA AND THE TREATMENT SHE'S GOTTEN, AS WELL.
THEY'RE AVAILABLE FOR YOU, TOO, IF YOU HAVE THE COURAGE TO WATCH THEM, BECAUSE THEY TRULY ARE HORRIBLE.
I TRIED TO GO BACK THROUGH AND IMAGINING MY KIDS.
I HAVE AN EIGHT, SIX, AND THREE-YEAR-OLD GOING THROUGH ANY KIND OF SIMILAR TREATMENT, AND I CAN'T MAKE THROUGH THE WHOLE VIDEOS WHEN I WATCH THEM IN THAT CONTEXT.
I DO I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S HOLDING THINGS UP.
I'VE NOT BEEN A PART OF THAT CONVERSATION.
BUT 350 DAYS COMPARED TO SOME OF THE TIME FRAMES THAT SHE READ AND HER PARENTS READ EARLIER DOES SEEM UNJUST.
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I REALLY, REALLY HOPE THE REASON ISN'T JUST THAT SHE CAN'T TALK FOR HERSELF.BECAUSE THAT WOULD MAKE YOU A HEARTBREAKING SITUATION EVEN MORE HEARTBREAKING.
>> LET'S, IS THAT IT? LET'S MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
>> THE CONSENT AGENDA WILL BE ACTED UPON IN ONE MOTION AND CONTAINS ITEMS WHICH ARE ROUTINE AND TYPICALLY NON-CONTROVERSIAL.
ITEMS MAY BE REMOVED FROM THIS AGENDA FOR INDIVIDUAL DISCUSSION BY A COUNCIL MEMBER, THE CITY MANAGER, AND CITIZEN.
THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL ESTABLISH TIME LIMITS BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKER REQUESTS.
>> MR. MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED.
>> THANK YOU. I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. PLEASE VOTE.
>> MOTION PASSES EIGHT TO ZERO. NEXT ITEM.
[(1)
Public Hearing and Comment of the Consolidated Annual Performance Evaluation Report describing the use of federal funds. This report details how the City used the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development funds during the 2024-25 grant year. The public will be given an opportunity to speak on the report during the public hearing.
]>> ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. APPLICANTS ARE LIMITED TO 15 MINUTES PRESENTATION, TIME WITH A FIVE-MINUTE REBUTTAL, IF NEEDED.
REMAINING SPEAKERS ARE LIMITED TO 30 TOTAL MINUTES OF TESTIMONY TIME WITH THREE MINUTES ASSIGNED PER SPEAKER.
THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY AMEND THESE TIMES AS DEEMED NECESSARY.
NON PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL PERMIT PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA NOT POSTED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL ESTABLISH TIME LIMITS BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKER REQUESTS, LENGTH OF THE AGENDA, AND TO ENSURE MEETING EFFICIENCY.
IT MAY INCLUDE A CUMULATIVE TIME LIMIT.
SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER OF THE REQUESTS ARE RECEIVED UNTIL THE CUMULATIVE TIME IS EXHAUSTED. ITEM NUMBER 1.
PUBLIC HEARING AND COMMENT ON THE CONSOLIDATED ANNUAL PERFORMANCE EVALUATION REPORT DESCRIBING THE USE OF FEDERAL FUNDS.
THIS REPORT DETAILS HOW THE CITY USED THE US DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT FUNDS DURING THE 2024-25 GRANT YEAR.
THE PUBLIC WILL BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THE REPORT DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
>> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL, CURTIS HOWARD AGAIN, DIRECTOR OF NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.
JUST AS A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO IS WHEN DEALING WITH HUD FUNDING, WE PRESENT A FIVE-YEAR CONSOLIDATED PLAN HERE OR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND WE HAVE DONE THAT.
WE DID THAT, I THINK IT WAS IN APRIL.
AS WE GET READY, WE JUST STARTED THIS FIVE-YEAR SESSION, WE ARE NOW PROVIDING YOU INFORMATION ON THE LAST YEAR AND HOW WE SPENT THE FUNDING THAT WE RECEIVED BASICALLY FROM HUD AND SOME OF THE OTHER FUNDING THAT WE GOT.
HUD REQUIRES US TO DO THIS, AND SO THIS IS BASICALLY JUST THAT ACCOUNTING OF HOW WE USED FUNDING OVER THE PAST YEAR.
IT OUTLINES WHAT GOALS WE'VE MET, WHAT ACCOMPLISHMENTS WE'VE MET, AND WHERE WE'RE GOING. JUST A LITTLE BIT.
WE HAD $1.5 MILLION IN CDBG FUNDING AND $415,000 IN HOME FUNDING, AND THEN THE BUFFINGTON COMMUNITY SERVICES GRANT, WHICH COMES FROM THE GENERAL FUND.
WE HAD JUST UNDER $600,000 FOR THAT.
WHAT DID WE DO? WHAT WE LOOK AT IS WE LOOK AT HUD GOALS.
DECENT HOUSING IS ONE OF THEM, AND SO HOME REPAIRS.
WE DID SEVERAL BASICALLY, EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE OR REHABILITATION FOR THE CITY OF PLANO, THINGS THAT THE CITY ACTUALLY DOES.
YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THAT EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE IS GOING TO BE THINGS LIKE ACS THAT WE GET OR ELECTRICAL PANELS.
WE ALSO DID SOME HOUSING REHAB, AND THEN WE ALSO WORKED FOR HABITAT FOR HUMANITY.
WE HAD A COUPLE OF HABITAT HOMES THAT WE WORKED ON.
FOR A TOTAL OF 25 HOUSEHOLDS HERE.
FOR THE HUD GOAL OF SUITABLE LIVING ENVIRONMENT WE ALSO FUND OUR OTHER NON PROFITS HERE.
FOR TEXAS MUSLIM WOMEN'S FOUNDATION.
THEY PROVIDED ASSISTANCE TO 17 DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SURVIVORS.
OUR HOMELESS PREVENTION PROGRAM, THE COLLIN COUNTY ASSISTANCE CENTER PROVIDED ASSISTANCE TO 84 PEOPLE, CITY HOUSE, THE FUNDING THAT WE PROVIDED GOT 44 YOUNG ADULTS, SOME ASSISTANCE THERE, AND THEN ALSO SAMARITAN INN, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAD 75 PEOPLE THAT WERE ASSISTED THROUGH THE SAMARITAN INN.
OTHER GRANT FUNDING THAT WE USED.
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THIS IS GOING TO BE HOME FUNDING HERE.HOME BASED TENANT BASED RENTAL ASSISTANTS, CATHOLIC CHARITIES, WHICH WE CONTRACTED WITH THEM.
I THINK IT WAS IN JUNE TO START PROVIDING SOME TENANT-BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE.
THEY PROVIDE THAT ASSISTANCE AND ALSO CASE MANAGEMENT.
WITHIN THAT PERIOD OF TIME, THEY HELPED SIX HOUSEHOLDS, ALSO TEXAS MUSLIM WOMEN'S FOUNDATION ON BOTH EITHER HOME-ARP TENANT BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE OR HOMELESS PREVENTION.
YOU CAN SEE THAT WE PROVIDED ASSISTANCE TO EIGHT HOUSEHOLDS ON ONE SIDE, AND THEN THREE HOUSEHOLDS ON THE OTHER.
THEN THAT BUFFINGTON COMMUNITY SERVICES GRANT.
THIS GOES TO A LOT OF THE SOCIAL SERVICES THAT WE HAVE HERE, AND YOU CAN SEE JUST THAT ASSISTANCE, WHETHER IT'S CASE MANAGEMENT OR COUNSELING OR WHATEVER ELSE, ALMOST 9,000 PEOPLE, AND THEN THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING COMMUNITY AFFAIRS, THE FUNDING THEY GAVE US PROVIDED RAPID REHOUSING TO 20 PEOPLE.
THEN FINALLY, WE PROVIDED SOME ASSISTANCE TO BELLA HOUSE, WHICH PROVIDED ASSISTANCE TO SIX WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN THEIR MISSION.
WITH THAT, THAT IS ALL I HAVE.
DO I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW WE SPENT HUD FUNDING?
>> THANKS, CURTIS. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER LAVINE.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. CURTIS, HOW DOES THIS COMPARE TO SOME PREVIOUS YEARS IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE DOLLAR SPENT AND THE CITIZENS SERVED?
>> I HAVE NOT REALLY LOOKED OVER THE PERIOD OF FIVE YEARS.
I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY PRETTY CLOSE.
I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS.
SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE THAT WE NEVER MEET OUR GOAL, WHICH HAS BEEN HISTORICALLY SOME OF THE PROBLEMS WE'VE HAD, WHETHER TRANSPORTATION OR JOB ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS. WE'VE ALWAYS HAD PROBLEMS IN THOSE AREAS OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS.
AS FAR AS THE OTHER, I'M GOING TO SAY THAT WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE TO BEING ON PAR, BUT I'D HAVE TO CHECK, AND I CAN GET THOSE NUMBERS FOR YOU, COUNCILMAN.
>> THANK YOU, AND THANK YOU FOR A VERY COMPREHENSIVE REPORT.
>> THANKS, CURTIS. I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
>> THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.
>> I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
>> PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE AS
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Public Hearing and consideration an Ordinance as requested in Zoning Case 2023-028 to amend the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance of the City, Ordinance No. 2015-5-2, as heretofore amended, rezoning 215.7 acres of land located on the west side of Jupiter Road, 490 feet north of Parker Road in the City of Plano, Collin County, Texas, from Agricultural to Residential Community Design; directing a change accordingly in the official zoning map of the City; and providing a penalty clause, a repealer clause, a savings clause, a severability clause, a publication clause, and an effective date. Petitioner: Todd A. Moore - Jonathan Moore Family Limited Partnership, Ltd.
]REQUESTED IN ZONING CASE 2023-028, TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY ORDINANCE NUMBER 2015-5-2 AS HERETOFORE AMENDED.RE ZONING 215 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF JUPITER ROAD, 490 FEET NORTH OF PARKER ROAD IN THE CITY OF PLANO, COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS, FROM AGRICULTURAL TO RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY DESIGN, DIRECTING A CHANGE ACCORDINGLY IN THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP OF THE CITY, PROVIDING A PENALTY CLAUSE, A REPEAL OR CLAUSE, A SAVINGS CLAUSE, A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, A PUBLICATION CLAUSE, AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
>> GOOD EVENING. MAYOR COUNCIL AND EXECUTIVES.
I'M CHRISTINA DAY, THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING.
HERE TO PRESENT ZONING CASE 2023-028 TO YOU.
THIS IS A SOMEWHAT UNUSUAL REQUEST.
WE DON'T OFTEN GET ZONING CASES THIS LARGE.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WE'RE LOOKING AT TONIGHT IS LOCATED BETWEEN K AVENUE AND JUPITER ROAD, SOUTH OF SPRING CREEK PARKWAY.
THE PLANO EVENT CENTER IS LOCATED DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH.
COLLIN COLLEGE AND THE OAK POINT RECREATION CENTER ARE TO THE EAST ACROSS JUPITER ROAD.
SHAWNEE PARK AND A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD ARE LOCATED DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH WITH ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS TO THE SOUTH EAST, AND THEN THE US HIGHWAY 75 CORRIDOR IS ACROSS K AVENUE WITH CORRIDOR COMMERCIAL ZONING TO THE WEST.
THIS IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM AGRICULTURAL ZONING TO THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY DESIGN OR RCD ZONING DISTRICT.
IT IS, AGAIN, 215 ACRES OF LAND, AND IT FALLS UNDER THE ENVISION OAK POINT SMALL AREA PLAN, WHICH I WILL DISCUSS MORE.
ONE OF THE UNIQUE THINGS ABOUT THIS REQUEST IS ALTHOUGH IT HAS ZONED AGRICULTURE, THE SENATE RECENTLY OR THE STATE OF TEXAS RECENTLY PASSED SENATE BILL 15, WHICH WOULD ALLOW THE SITE TO DEVELOP WITH 3,000 SQUARE FOOT SINGLE FAMILY LOTS.
ALTHOUGH IT IS AGRICULTURAL ZONING,
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THERE IS RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT PERMITTED BY RIGHT TODAY.A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ENVISION OAK POINT, WHICH IS THE CONTROLLING LAND USE PLAN FOR THIS PROPERTY WAS ADOPTED IN 2018 AFTER EXTENSIVE PUBLIC OUTREACH, COVERS 700 ACRES IN NORTHEAST PLANO, IT INCLUDED SEVERAL MONTHS OF OUTREACH WITH PUBLIC WORKSHOPS, STAKEHOLDER COMMITTEE, SURVEYS, MEETINGS WITH BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
IT WAS A VERY EXTENSIVE PROCESS THAT RESULTED IN THE ADOPTION OF A PLAN.
THAT PLAN INCLUDED A VISION STATEMENT, AND THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK LED TO THIS STATEMENT THAT YOU SEE ON YOUR SCREEN THAT SAYS PLANO OAK POINT ENHANCES COMMUNITY ESTABLISHING PLACE BY UNIFYING NORTHEAST PLANO.
A SOCIAL HUB CONNECTING THE DIVERSE POPULATION WITH A NETWORK OF NATURAL FEATURES AND CIVIC SPACES.
THIS IS REALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TOWARD IN THE PLAN.
THE PLAN ALSO INCLUDES A VISION MAP THAT IS ESSENTIALLY A MINIATURE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN FOR THIS AREA THAT INCLUDES A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT FUTURE LAND USE TYPES.
THIS IS REFERENCED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS THE GUIDING DOCUMENT FOR THIS AREA, PROVIDES LAND USE, OPEN SPACE, AND BUILDING CHARACTERISTICS FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
IT ALSO PROVIDES GUIDANCE ON MOBILITY ENHANCEMENTS FOR THE AREA.
YOU SEE LOCAL STREETS AND THOROUGHFARES RUNNING THROUGH THE SITE AS WELL AS PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS, TRANSIT LOCATIONS, AND PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS ALL SUGGESTED THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS.
THE PLAN INCLUDES SIX MAJOR GOALS EACH WITH A SET OF POLICY DOC GUIDANCE.
FOR EXAMPLE, THE PLAN RECOMMENDS CREATING BALANCED NEIGHBORHOODS AND DIVERSE HOUSING, WALKABLE, CONNECTED COMMUNITY WITH GREAT STREETS, ACCESSIBLE OPEN SPACE AND GREEN NETWORKS.
IT SEEKS TO PRESERVE THE AGRARIAN CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT'S SOMETHING TO BE CONSISTENTLY HEARD FROM PEOPLE THROUGH THE PUBLIC OUTREACH PROCESS, ESTABLISH A VIBRANT NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER AND USE ENVIRONMENTAL PLATE MAKING STRATEGIES.
MANY OF THESE ITEMS YOU'LL HEAR ABOUT THROUGH THE REQUEST TONIGHT.
HOW HAS THIS BEEN IMPLEMENTED SO FAR? THE MAJOR PROJECT THAT WE'VE SEEN SO FAR COME OUT OF THE ENVISION OAK POINT PLAN IS ASSEMBLY PARK, WHICH REDEVELOPED OUT OF THE PLANO MARKET SQUARE MALL PROPERTY.
IT'S NOW A MIXED USE PROJECT, INCLUDING OFFICE, DINING, AND OPEN SPACE AMENITIES, AS WELL AS HOUSING.
A SECOND PROJECT THAT YOU'VE SEEN IMPACTED IS THE PLANO EVENTS CENTER PROPERTY, WHICH IS IMMEDIATELY NORTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY THIS EVENING, WHICH IS THE LAYOUT OF THE PLANO EVENT CENTER PROPERTY HAS BEEN IMPACTED WITH INFRASTRUCTURE IMPACTS, AS WELL AS A REZONING OF THIS PROPERTY TO ALIGN WITH THE ENVISION OAK POINT PLAN.
NOW WE'LL GET INTO THE SPECIFIC ZONING REQUEST.
WHAT IS RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY DESIGN? WELL, IT IS A ZONING DISTRICT THAT WAS JUST CREATED IN JANUARY 2021.
IT IS A COMPANION TO NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS DESIGN, WHICH IS THE ZONING TO THE NORTH ON THE PLANO EVENT CENTER PROPERTY.
THEY'RE MEANT TO WORK TOGETHER COLLABORATIVELY AND REALLY DESIGNED TO HELP IMPLEMENT ENVISION OAK POINT, AS WELL AS SOME OTHER NEEDS IN THE COMMUNITY.
IT IS SIMILAR TO A MIXED USE ZONING DISTRICT THAT YOU HAVE SEEN LIKE URBAN MIXED USE ZONING DISTRICT BECAUSE IT REQUIRES ADOPTION OF A DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
THAT IS IN YOUR PACKET THIS EVENING.
AS PART OF THE ZONING, IT REQUIRES A GOVERNANCE ASSOCIATION TO MANAGE AMENITIES.
IT REQUIRES SPECIALIZED STREETS, SIDEWALKS, AND OPEN SPACE STANDARDS AS PART OF THE ZONING.
YOU CAN ALSO ADOPT EXCEPTIONS TO THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT, LIKE A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AS PART OF THIS ZONING, AND THERE ARE THREE TIERS OF HOUSING WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
TIER 1 IS THE LEAST DENSE TYPE OF HOUSING THAT'S REQUIRED TO BE AT LEAST 50% OF THE UNITS.
TIER 2 IS THE MEDIUM DENSITY HOUSING WITHIN, AND IT CAN BE UP TO 50% OF THE UNITS, AND THEN TIER 3 ARE ONLY PERMITTED FOR RCD WHERE THERE'S ONLY OVER 100 UNITS, AND IT CANNOT EXCEED 25% OF THE TOTAL UNITS.
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THEN TO ENCOURAGE A MIX OF HOUSING TYPES, NO INDIVIDUAL TYPE MAY BE LESS THAN 10% OF THE UNITS WITHIN THE DISTRICT.THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN LAYS OUT HOW THESE MIX OF HOUSING WILL WORK TOGETHER.
SUB DISTRICT A INCLUDES THE TIER 1 THROUGH 3 HOUSING.
SUB DISTRICT B INCLUDES WHAT'S CALLED TIER 4 HOUSING, WHICH IS UNIQUE TO THIS DISTRICT IN IMPLEMENTING THE MIXED USE CENTER PORTION OF THE ENVISION OAK POINT PLAN, AND THEN SUB-DISTRICT C INCLUDES A RURAL PRESERVE, WHICH AGAIN, PLAYS OFF OF THE LAND USE TYPES IN THE ENVISION OAK POINT PLAN, AND ALSO ALLOWS SINGLE FAMILY 6 ZONING TO OCCUR FOR FUTURE SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT.
THERE IS A FOUR LANE THOROUGHFARE PROPOSED, BOTH EAST WEST AND NORTH, SOUTH, CONSISTENT WITH THE PLAN, AS WELL AS A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE.
A PHASING PLAN IS INCLUDED, AND THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS TO THE BASE ZONING THAT HELP IMPLEMENT THE PLAN.
HOW DOES THIS LINEUP? YOU CAN SEE VISION OAK POINT COMMUNITY VISION MAP ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLAN ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SCREEN, AND THE SUB AREAS LINED UP.
IS IT PERFECTLY ALIGNED? NOT EXACTLY.
YOU CAN SEE THE ROUNDABOUT IS A LITTLE BIT OFF, BUT, IN LOOKING AT THE LAY OF THE LAND, THIS IS A FAIRLY PRECISE REPRESENTATION AND A GOOD MIX OF USES.
YOU CAN SEE HOW THE OPEN SPACE GENERALLY ALIGNS WITH THE ENVISION MAP, AS WELL AS THE LAND USES ARE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WAS ENVISIONED THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS.
>> SUB DISTRICT A, LET'S GET INTO THE DETAILS HERE.
IT INCLUDES 298 UNITS IN TIER 1 WHICH ARE SHOWN IN RED.
THOSE ARE SHOWN IN THE GOLD COLOR, AND TIER 3 AT 66 UNITS.
THOSE ARE THREE UNITS PER LOT, THAT'S 11% OF THE HOUSING.
THAT'S A TOTAL OF 596 UNITS WITH 30.7 TOTAL ACRES OF OPEN SPACE.
THAT'S IN ITS PUREST SENSE, THE RCD ZONING DISTRICT.
THAT HELPS IMPLEMENT THESE DIFFERENT LAND TYPES WITHIN THE ENVISION OAK POINT PLAN, THE SINGLE FAMILY MIX, SMALL LOT SUBDIVISION NEIGHBORHOOD EDGE, WHICH ALLOWS A TRANSITION TO WITH COMMERCIAL USES.
COMMERCIAL USES ARE NOT REQUIRED, BUT THEY ARE ALLOWED IN THOSE AREAS.
THEN, OF COURSE, PARKS IN OPEN SPACE.
SUB DISTRICT A ALSO INCLUDES THE CONNECTIVITY THAT YOU'LL SEE THROUGH BETWEEN THE ROUNDABOUT AND K AVENUE, TRAILS AND OPEN SPACE CONSISTENT WITH THE PROPOSED MASTER PLAN IN ENVISION OAK POINT.
THE HOUSING AND SUB DISTRICT B IS A DIFFERENT UNIQUE TYPE THAT'S NOT WITHIN RCD.
THE HEIGHTS ARE COLOR CODED HERE, SO YOU CAN SEE THE TWO STORY UNITS IN RED BRINGING THE EXTERIOR OF THE PROPERTY ALONG JUPITER AS IT'S CLOSER TO THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS TO THE EAST.
THEN ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, WHERE MORE SINGLE FAMILY WAS PROPOSED IN ENVISION OAK POINTE.
THEN IT TRANSITIONS TO HIGHER TALLER USES IN THE INTERIOR OF THE PROPERTY WITH SOME THREE STORY UNITS ALONG THE NORTH SOUTH TYPE D THOROUGHFARE.
OPEN SPACE WITHIN THIS PROPERTY IS ALSO 2.8 ACRES OR 6% OF THE AREA.
THIS IS THE LOCATION OF SUB DISTRICT B.
YOU CAN SEE IT IS IN THE MIXED USE ACTIVITY CENTER, WHICH CALLS FOR TYPICAL HEIGHTS OF 2-4 STORY, BEING THE SOCIAL HUB AS WELL AS SOME SINGLE FAMILY TYPES WITHIN ALONG THAT EAST WEST COLLECTOR.
IT IS IMMEDIATELY SOUTH OF THE PLANO EVENT CENTER PROPERTY,
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AND MEANT TO HELP ACTIVATE THAT PROPERTY BY PROVIDING ADDITIONAL USES AND OPEN SPACE AND CONNECTIONS THERE.YOU CAN SEE WE'VE LAID THE PLAN FOR THE PLANO EVENT CENTER AND THE ZONING EXHIBIT THERE TO THE NORTH WHERE THE STAR IS LOCATED IN THE CENTER OF THE SCREEN.
YOU CAN SEE HOW THE ROADS CONNECT FOR THE PLAN ON THE PLANO EVENT CENTER PROPERTY AND HOW THOSE WILL INTEGRATE WITH TIME AS BOTH PROPERTIES DEVELOP.
FINALLY, SUBDISTRICT C IS SOMETHING THAT'S VERY UNIQUE.
IT IS A RURAL PRESERVE, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS PROPOSED, BOTH CONSISTENT WITH ENVISION OAK POINT AND WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS VISION.
IT PROVIDES A MIX OF COMMERCIAL USES THAT ARE GOING TO BE, I THINK, THE VERY INTERESTING GLUE FOR THIS PROJECT THAT MAKES IT SO SPECIAL.
FARMERS MARKETS, FOOD TRUCKS, ASSEMBLY HALLS, LIKE AN EVENT VENUE, GARDEN CENTERS, SHOPPING, RETAIL, RESTAURANTS, THINGS THAT WOULD DRAW PEOPLE IN TO THE BUT IN A HISTORIC AGRICULTURAL CONTEXT ARE WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED HERE.
I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING VERY SPECIAL.
THE OWNER IS PROPOSING AND THROUGH THE ZONING TO PRESERVE SOME OF THE HISTORIC BUILDINGS ON THE SITE.
I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY SPECIAL PLACE THAT WILL BE UNIQUE AND MAKE THIS PROJECT SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT YOU WOULD SEE IN A MOST SUBDIVISIONS.
THERE IS OPEN SPACE ALSO THROUGH HERE AT 3.3 ACRES, AND THERE'S ALSO IN THE LIGHTER YELLOW COLOR A FAMILY PRESERVE THAT ALLOWS THE FAMILY TO RETAIN SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES ON THE PROPERTY AND CONTINUE TO LIVE THERE.
PART OF THAT RURAL PRESERVE IS INCORPORATING SOME OF THE EXISTING CONDITIONS, THE STONE WALLS, THE SILOS, AND SOME OF THE HISTORIC PROPERTIES REUSING THOSE IN A WAY THAT GIVES IT UNIQUE AGRICULTURAL CHARACTER THAT'S AGAIN, CONSISTENT WITH THE PLANS GUIDANCE.
SUBDISTRICTS, THESE ARE THE USE TYPES THAT ARE SHOWN IN ENVISION OAK POINTE, SO YOU SEE IT SPECIFICALLY CALLS OUT RURAL PRESERVE, PARKS AND OPEN SPACE, NEIGHBORHOOD EDGE, AND A SINGLE FAMILY MIX.
WE BELIEVE THIS MEETS AND IS CONSISTENT WITH THE VISION FOR THIS AREA.
OVERALL, THIS IS A COMPARISON AGAIN, BETWEEN THE ENVISION OAK POINT PLAN AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
WE CAN SEE HOW THOSE ALIGN BETWEEN THE PROPOSED MAP AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
STREETS AND CONNECTIVITY ARE A KEY PART HERE.
THE RED, LARGER ARROWS SHOW THE TYPE D THOROUGHFARE, THE EAST WEST THOROUGHFARE, AND THE NORTHERN THOROUGHFARE THAT CONNECTS UP INTO THE PLANO EVENT CENTER PROPERTY THAT IS FOUR LANE MEDIAN DIVIDED WITH PARKING ON ONE SIDE.
IT IS A NEW TYPE OF THOROUGHFARE THAT'S CALLED OUT SPECIFICALLY IN ENVISION OAK POINT.
IT HAS LARGE SIDE PATHS, ESSENTIALLY TRAILS THAT RUN ALONG EITHER SIDE.
IT'S A PRETTY UNIQUE TYPE D THOROUGHFARE, UNLIKE OTHERS WITHIN THE CITY.
ALSO, WE HAVE OUR MIXED USE LOCAL AND COLLECTOR STREETS THAT ALSO PROVIDE ON STREET PARKING AND WIDER SIDEWALKS.
THERE ARE ALLEYS AND PASEOS AND UNIQUE TYPE OF STREETS, AND JUST THE WHOLE URBAN DESIGN COMPONENT HERE IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD SEE IN A TYPICAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
YOU CAN SEE, AGAIN, HOW THIS LINES UP WITH THE PROPOSED WITH THE ENVISION OAK POINT MAP, AND HOW IT ALIGNS VERY CLOSELY TO THE ACTUAL SCALE OF WHAT IS IN ENVISION OAK POINT WITH THE CROSS SECTION OF THE STREET.
OPEN SPACE, 17% OF THE GROSS ACREAGE IS PROPOSED AS PUBLIC OPEN SPACE, THAT'S 37 ACRES.
ONE OF THE UNIQUE ELEMENTS HERE IS THAT THERE ARE DESIGN ELEMENTS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO MEET
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ENVISION OAK POINT FOR SUSTAINABILITY AND STORMWATER EFFICIENCIES.THINGS LIKE BIOSWALES, FILTER STRIPS, RAIN GARDENS ARE PART OF THIS PUBLIC OPEN SPACE.
AGAIN, CREATING THAT NATURAL FEATURES THAT WILL BE MORE SUSTAINABLE FOR THE FUTURE.
THE PHASING PLAN INCLUDES PHASE 1 IS THE GREEN AREA IN THE UPPER RIGHT CORNER OF THE PLAN.
THEY ARE REQUIRED TO BUILD A SINGLE FAMILY PHASE WITH THE MULTIFAMILY PHASE.
IT ALSO INCLUDES THE ROADS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT PHASE.
THE NORTHERN AND EASTERN EXTENSIONS THERE OF THE TYPE D ROADWAY.
PHASE 2 OF THE MULTI FAMILY REQUIRES AN ADDITIONAL PHASE OF SINGLE FAMILY AND ALSO REQUIRES NON-RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION.
WE WILL GET THAT FAMILY RESERVE STARTED WORKING WITH THAT SECOND PHASE OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT COMES ONLINE.
ANY PHASE THEN WEST OF THE ROUNDABOUT, WILL REQUIRE THE EAST WEST EXTENSION OF THE TYPE D THOROUGHFARE TO BE FULLY BUILT.
WE'LL HAVE A CONNECTION TO MAKE SURE TRAFFIC CAN GET THROUGH TO K AVENUE.
OTHER CONSIDERATIONS THAT ARE UNIQUE, GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE COMPONENTS, THERE'S UNIVERSAL DESIGN ELEMENTS IN THIS ZONING DISTRICT.
AGAIN, CONSISTENT WITH PLAN COMPONENTS, PRESERVATION OF THOSE HERITAGE STRUCTURES, ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BY THE DIRECTOR AND A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR PHASING AND PARTICIPATION.
IN SUMMARY, THIS WOULD PROVIDE 1,648 UNITS OF HOUSING, ALONG WITH 37 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE.
IT'S BEEN FOUND TO MEET THE VISION MAP GOALS AND POLICIES OF THE ENVISION OAK POINT PLAN, AND THERE IS AN ASSOCIATED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT OUTLINES PHASING AND COST PARTICIPATION THAT WAS EARLIER ON THE AGENDA.
AS FAR AS PUBLIC FEEDBACK, THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS PROVIDED LETTERS OF SUPPORT.
AS FAR AS WITHIN THE 200 FOOT BOUNDARY, WE RECEIVED TWO LETTERS OF OPPOSITION.
THEN CITYWIDE, WE HAVE 13 LETTERS OF SUPPORT OR 13 RESPONSES IN SUPPORT, TWO THAT ARE NEUTRAL AND 84 IN OPPOSITION 1 OUTSIDE PLANO FOR 100 TOTAL RESPONSES.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND THIS CASE FOR APPROVAL BY A VOTE OF 8-0, AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, COUNCIL MEMBER KARI?
>> I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
I THINK YOU'VE ACTUALLY HIT MANY OF THE THINGS I WAS LOOKING AT.
FOR EXAMPLE, HOW MUCH GREEN SPACE THERE IS, 30 SOME ODD ACRES.
DOES IT ALIGN WITH THE PLANS THAT WE'VE HAD, LIKE, FUTURE LAND USE, UNDEVELOPED LAND USE, VISION OAK POINT, IT DOES, DOES PROVIDE A VARIETY OF HOUSING STOCK THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR? IT DOES. ONE THING I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT IS, DOES THE DESIGN AGREEMENT FIX INTO PLACE WHAT THE STRUCTURES WILL LOOK LIKE OR THE EXTERIOR OF THE FACADE OF THE BUILDINGS, HOMES, AND MULTIFAMILY?
>> THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT DOES INCLUDE ELEMENTS OF FACADE REVIEW AND ELEMENTS OF MATERIAL REQUIREMENTS FOR RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES.
>> THANK YOU. THE FOUR LANE THOROUGHFARES, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME AS PART OF OAK POINT AND IS RELATED TO DENSITY OR?
>> YES, IT'S RELATED TO THE OVERALL MASTER PLAN.
WE HAD TRAFFIC ENGINEERS THAT ARE PART OF THAT PLANNING PROCESS, AND THAT WAS A RECOMMENDATION REALLY FOR THE OVERALL CIRCULATION OF THE AREA, NOT JUST THE CIRCULATION RELATED TO THE NEW UNITS THAT WERE COMING ONLINE.
>> WHEN IT COMES TO SB 15, AT WHAT POINT DOES THAT NO LONGER BECOME AN OPTION? IS IT WHEN WE APPROVE ZONING OR WHEN DOES THAT HAPPEN?
>> IT HAS IT IS FOR UNPLATED PROPERTY.
I WOULD SAY PROBABLY THE INITIAL TRIGGER IS GOING TO BE THE PLATTING OF THE PROPERTY.
>> IF THERE'S NO PLATTING FOR FIVE ACRES, THEN ACRES STILL BE ELIGIBLE FOR.
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>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. GREAT PRESENTATION, CHRISTINA.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT CLARIFICATION HERE.
WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE PHASING HERE, PARTICULARLY WITH REGARDS TO THE APARTMENTS, YOU SOMEWHAT MENTIONED THERE WAS GOING TO BE SOME SINGLE FAMILY CONSTRUCTION ALONG AT THE E STREET, IS THAT CORRECT? I THINK WHAT I READ IN THIS IS REALLY THE ONLY THING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO INSTALL IS THEY'RE GOING TO CONSTRUCT E STREET, AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THE UTILITIES AND PAD SITES PREPARED FOR FUTURE CONSTRUCTION.
I DON'T THINK EVERYTHING I READ.
>> WHEN YOU REFER TO E STREET, ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE EXHIBIT IN THE DA? THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT?
>> NO. WELL, IT WAS PART OF THE DA, YES.
BUT ALSO, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS FIGURE RIGHT HERE THAT YOU'RE PRESENTING IT TO US, HAVE YOU HAVE ACTUALLY C AND D STREET, AND THEN YOU HAVE E 1 AND E 2.
MY UNDERSTANDING FROM LOOKING AT THE DOCUMENTS BEFORE US, THAT THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES TO THE WEST OF E STREET, IT'S NOT THOSE HOMES WILL NOT BE CONSTRUCTED IN PHASE 2 OF WHEN THEY START COMPLETING THE APARTMENTS.
IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING AND ALL THEY WERE GOING TO DO WAS RUN THE UNDERGROUND UTILITIES AND PREPARE THE PAD SITES.
>> THEY NEED TO PLAT THE LOTS IN A SINGLE FAMILY PHASE.
I BELIEVE, LET ME DOUBLE CHECK YOU'RE SAYING THE SINGLE FAMILY TRACT 1, WHICH IS THE RED TRACT.
>> LET ME LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE.
MR. BELL, IF YOU CAN FIND THAT FASTER THAN I AM, FEEL FREE TO ANSWER.
>> THAT'S CORRECT. IT'S A FINAL PLAT, SO THE LOTS WOULD BE LAID OUT, BUT THE HOMES ARE NOT NECESSARILY CONSTRUCTED BY THAT TIME.
>> BUT PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT, THEY'LL HAVE THE PLATS.
ARE THEY GOING TO PREPARE THE PAD SITES AND RUN THE UTILITIES?
>> YES. THAT'S PART OF THE FINAL PLATTING REQUIREMENTS.
>> GREAT. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO GET CLARIFICATION THERE BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT ANYBODY TO THINK THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE'LL BE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES POPPED UP RIGHT THERE.
>> THEY'LL BE READY FOR BUILDING PERMIT, IS THE IDEA.
>> THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
>> MY QUESTIONS ARE VERY SIMPLE.
SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE ENVISION OAK POINT PLAN WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS PUT TOGETHER MANY YEARS AGO.
I WOULD ASSUME BY MY PREDECESSOR, ANGELA MINOR, AS WELL AS TAT MINER.
>> WHO SAT IN THIS CHAIR, AND WITH THE PNZ, BASICALLY CAME TO A CONSENSUS THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN IN THE EAST SIDE OF PLANO.
>> THAT IS CORRECT. THEY PARTICIPATED IN THE PROCESS.
>> AND THEN THEY CAME UP WITH THIS BABY.
IT'S REALLY ANGELA'S BABY BECAUSE SHE TELLS ME THAT EVERY TIME WHEN I SEE HER, DON'T FORGET.
DON'T FORGET ABOUT THE ENVISION OAK POINT.
SO SO AT THIS POINT, THE DEVELOPER IS WILLING, EVEN WITH SB15, WHICH ALLOWED THEM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS, THE LEGISLATURE BASICALLY SAYS, "LOOK, YOU GUYS, IF IT'S A AGRICULTURAL LAND, YOU GUYS COULD BUILD WHATEVER YOU GUYS WANT IN LITTLE TINY LOTS ON AGRICULTURAL LAND." IS THAT WHAT SB15 IS ALL ABOUT?
>> THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO COME TO US.
THEY COULD JUST GO INTO THESE LANDS AND START BUILDING LITTLE TINY LOTS, AND THEN BUILD A WHOLE BUNCH OF THEM, AND THEN JUST MASSIVE COVER THESE AREAS, IS THAT RIGHT?
>> INSTEAD, THEY WANT TO HONOR THE ENVISION OAK POINT PLAN.
THEY WANT TO FOLLOW THE VISION THAT WAS PROPOSED MULTI-YEARS AGO BY MY PREDECESSOR AND THE PREDECESSOR OF THE CURRENT PNZ, AND THEY WANT TO BUILD IT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PLAN THAT'S CURRENTLY IN PLACE, IS THAT RIGHT?
>> AND IN EXCHANGE FOR THAT, THEY'RE ASKING THAT CERTAIN ZONING BE ADOPTED SO THAT THEY COULD BASICALLY IMPLEMENT THE ENVISION OAK POINT PLAN, THE WAY THAT IT IS DESIGNED TO BE.
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THEY ALSO ARE WILLING TO SACRIFICE THEIR RIGHTS UNDER SB15 IN ORDER TO DO SO.THAT'S WHY THEY'RE COMING TO US.
>> I THINK THAT WOULD BE AN EXCELLENT QUESTION FOR THEM WHEN THEY MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION.
BUT ONCE THEY START PLATTING THESE IN SMALLER LOTS, THEY WILL FOREGO THOSE RIGHTS UNDER SB15.
>> THAT WOULD BE UNDER THE AGREEMENT THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO SIGN WITH THE CITY.
[OVERLAPPING] AND THEY'RE DOING THAT VOLUNTARILY.
I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR PRIVILEGES OTHER THAN WHAT THEY'RE ALREADY ENTITLED TO.
>> SO AT THIS POINT, THE ONLY THING THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE AESTHETIC OF WHAT IS GOING TO BE BUILT.
WE'VE GOTTEN MULTIPLE FEEDBACK FROM CERTAIN APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT I GUESS IT WAS BUILT BY THE SAME DEVELOPER.
THAT WASN'T APPROVED BY US, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE AESTHETIC OF THESE DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO MATCH THE NATURAL PRESERVE THAT IS OF THE EAST SIDE, AS WELL AS IT WILL BASICALLY PRESERVE THE HISTORICAL HERITAGE PART OF EAST SIDE.
AND IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE A SAY INTO?
>> IN EXHIBIT E WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, THEY'VE PROVIDED RENDERINGS.
SO YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE, AND THEY CAN ADDRESS THAT IN THEIR PRESENTATION AS WELL.
>> I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
>> THE FIRST SPEAKERS ARE THE APPLICANTS.
>> GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR, COUNSEL, STAFF.
TODD MORE, 37, 21 NORTH JUPITER ROAD IN PLANO, TEXAS 75074.
I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THIS ZONING CASE TO YOU.
IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING, AND WE'RE CERTAINLY EXCITED TO GET MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS.
I DO WANT TO TAKE A MINUTE, THOUGH.
I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GIVE CHRISTINA'S STAFF A LOT OF CREDIT FOR THE ENVISION OAK POINT.
THAT FUNCTION, AND IT REALLY, I THINK IS GOING TO BE A GREAT ASSET TO THE CITY IF WE CAN GET THIS PROJECT GOING.
I WAS A PARTICIPANT IN THE ENVISION OAK POINT IN 2018.
I WANTED TO SELL A PORTION OF PROPERTY, AND CHRISTINA CAME TO ME AND SAID, "HEY, I'D REALLY LIKE FOR YOU TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS EXERCISE WITH THE CITY." AND I THINK IT REALLY DID THE CITY A LOT OF GOOD.
THE EAST SIDE'S ALWAYS BEEN NEGLECTED.
IT'S NEVER BEEN FIRST PRIORITY ON THE LIST, AND THIS MOVED THE EAST SIDE UP TO REALLY GAIN SOME ATTENTION.
THE MARKET FOR REAL ESTATE WASN'T VERY GOOD.
THANKS TO A COUPLE OF FRIENDS OF MINE, I WAS INTRODUCED TO HIGH STREET AND THE TRAMMELL CROW GROUP WITH KEVIN HICKMAN AND JOEL BARNS, AND THEY PUT TOGETHER A FANTASTIC PLANNING TEAM.
I MEAN, YOU CANNOT FIND A BETTER TEAM ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTRY, MAYBE ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD.
THEY HAVE TERRIFIC ENGINEERS, GREAT ARCHITECTS.
AND WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST TURN IT OVER TO THEM AND LET THEM GIVE YOU THE PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU. AND I'LL BE AROUND FOR ANSWERING ANY QUESTIONS.
>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JOEL BARNS, THE TRAMMELL CROW COMPANY.
MY ADDRESS IS 2100 MCKINNEY, SUITE 800, DALLAS, TEXAS 75201.
THANK YOU, TODD, FOR THOSE COMMENTS.
IT'S A PRIVILEGE TO BE HERE TONIGHT.
AND PRESENT TO YOU OUR SHARED VISION.
AND I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT IT'S SHARED BY MANY.
I THINK CHRISTINA DID A GREAT JOB JUST SHOWING THE WORK THAT'S GONE INTO THE PLAN TO GET HERE TONIGHT.
I DID WANT TO PROVIDE A LITTLE HISTORICAL CONTEXT.
ABOUT 90 YEARS AGO, TODD'S GRANDFATHER MADE HIS FIRST PURCHASE OF LAND IN PLANO AND OPERATED THE W.LEE MOORE STOCK FARMS.
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OVER THE YEARS, THEIR HOLDINGS GREW TO 1,200 ACRES, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN.THE MOORE FAMILY FARM, WHICH MANY OF US KNOW IS LAVON FARMS, HAS A LONG HISTORY OF PRODUCING MANY GRAND CHAMPION ALL-AMERICAN DAIRY COWS.
AND WHILE TODD WOULDN'T TELL YOU THAT CAUSE HE'S TOO HUMBLE, I DO THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE HISTORY AND HOW WE GOT HERE TONIGHT.
AND YOU MIGHT WONDER, WHY IS HE TALKING ABOUT DAIRY COWS? AND FOR THOSE THAT WATCH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, I'LL MAKE THE SAME JOKE.
I DO LIKE CHEESE, BUT THAT'S NOT THE REASON WHY I'M BRINGING IT UP.
I HAVE FIRSTHAND EXPERIENCE ON THIS TOPIC.
I LIVED IN TEXAS FOR GOING ON 18 YEARS.
I LIKE TO SAY I HAVE THREE LITTLE TEXANS AT HOME, BUT I'LL NEVER BE ONE BECAUSE I WASN'T BORN HERE.
BUT I DID GROW UP ON A SMALL DAIRY FARM IN WISCONSIN.
AND I KNOW THE HARDEST THING A FARMER CAN DO IS SELL HIS FARM.
WE STILL HAVE OUR SIX GENERATIONS LATER.
LIKE TODD AND HIS FAMILY, A DECISION TO SELL THE FAMILY FARM IS ONE OF THE HARDEST DECISIONS A FARMER WILL MAKE IN THEIR LIVES.
YOU CAN'T HAVE THE LEVEL OF SUCCESS FARMING THAT TODD AND HIS FAMILY HAVE HAD IF YOU DON'T LOVE WHAT YOU DO.
AND WHEN YOU LOVE WHAT YOU DO HOW DO YOU STOP DOING IT? SIMPLY PUT, TODD LOVES FARMING, AND HE LOVES HIS FARM.
THERE'S NO BETTER EVIDENCE OF THAT THAN THE FACT THAT OVER THE PERIOD OF THEIR OWNERSHIP, PLANO HAS SEEN OVER 40,000 ACRES OF LAND GO INTO DEVELOPMENT.
TODAY, LAVON FARMS REPRESENTS THE LARGEST GREENFIELD SITE IN THE CITY.
CLEARLY, TODD AND HIS FAMILY DID NOT RUSH INTO THE DECISION.
HOWEVER, THE SUCCESS AND GROWTH OF PLANO MADE TONIGHT INEVITABLE.
WHEN THEY BOUGHT THEIR FIRST PIECE OF LAND, THE POPULATION WE LOOK BACK WAS ABOUT 1,500.
WE ALL KNOW TODAY, IT'S ALMOST 300,000.
AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN, OVER THAT 90-YEAR OWNERSHIP, I THINK THEY'VE BEEN GREAT STEWARDS IN THEIR LAND, WITH OVER 50% OF IT BEING PRESERVED FOR PARKLAND AND PARK SPACE.
AND WHILE TODD AND HIS FAMILY HAVE A LONG HISTORY IN PLANO, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF COMMERCIAL ON WHO WE ARE, IF YOU DON'T KNOW, WE HAVE A LONG HISTORY IN PLANO, AS WELL.
OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS, WE BUILT AROUND 3 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF CORPORATE OFFICE, HOSPITALS AND AS WELL AS THE FIRST MULTIFAMILY HIGH-RISE IN PLANO IN THE LEGACY BUSINESS PARK.
AND FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW, WE WERE FOUNDED IN DALLAS BY THE MAN ON THE SCREEN, TRAMMELL CROW, IN 1948.
IN 2006, WE WERE ACQUIRED BY CBRE, WHICH IS THE WORLD'S LARGEST REAL ESTATE SERVICES COMPANY, AND WE ARE A WHOLLY OWNED SUBSIDIARY OF THEM.
TRAMMELL CROW COMPANY AND THEIR RESIDENTIAL BRAND, HIGH STREET RESIDENTIAL IS THE LARGEST DEVELOPMENT COMPANY IN THE COUNTRY. WHY IS THAT IMPORTANT? WELL, WE'RE LOCAL. I THINK WE DO A GREAT JOB OF WORKING THE COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO WE HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL TO EXECUTE ON WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE TONIGHT.
WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO HAND IT OFF TO KEVIN, AND WE'LL BE BACK IN A LITTLE BIT.
>> THANK YOU, JOEL. MY NAME IS KEVIN HICKMAN, 2100 MCKINNEY AVENUE, SUITE 800, DALLAS, TEXAS S5201.
HONORABLE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, WE'RE HONORED AND EXCITED TO BE HERE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY.
IT'S INTERESTING, AS I STARTED GETTING UP HERE, A LOT OF THE SAME THEMES I WAS GOING TO HIGHLIGHT, I THINK CHRISTINA HIT THEM ALL.
AND THAT'S REALLY THE COLLABORATION, THE BUILDING A SENSE OF COMMUNITY.
THE DIVERSITY OF HOUSING TYPE, THE PRESERVATION, THE AGRARIAN CHARACTER THAT OUR DEVELOPMENT WILL HAVE IN PARKS AND OPEN SPACE.
SO, FIRST AND FOREMOST, AS WE MOVE THROUGH THIS PROCESS, IT'S BEEN NOTHING BUT COLLABORATIVE.
WE HELD TWO COMMUNITY MEETINGS EVEN BEFORE WE SUBMIT OUR ZONING APPLICATION, AND THEN HAD ANOTHER COMMUNITY MEETING ABOUT 12 MONTHS AFTER THAT.
SO WE SUBMITTED OUR ZONING APPLICATION OVER TWO YEARS AGO, AND I DO HAVE TO APPLAUD THE FANTASTIC STAFF.
WITHOUT THEM, I DON'T THINK WE WOULD BE WATCHING OR SEEING THE SAME SITE PLAN THAT WE'RE PRESENTING TODAY.
THEY ONLY MADE THE SITE BETTER AND THE PROJECT BETTER FOR ITS OWN COMMUNITY, BUT FOR THE CITY AS A WHOLE.
SO THANK YOU, CHRISTINA AND TEAM. THANK YOU.
AS MENTIONED, WE HAD A TOTAL OF THREE COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
ON THE LAST ONE, WE DID MAIL OUT OVER 450 INVITATIONS TO ENSURE THAT WE HAD GOOD COVERAGE.
WE HAD ALL THE MEETINGS AT THE OAK POINT PARK AND NATURE PRESERVE, WHAT A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING, AND HAVE HAD COUNTLESS MEETINGS, EVEN THOUGH I HAVE 45 UP THERE AND HAD A NUMBER OF FOLLOW-UP MEETINGS TO REALLY TO SHOW THAT WE WENT OUT OF OUR WAY TO TRY TO GET THE COMMUNITY INPUT.
SINCE THE LAST COMMUNITY MEETING, THE REALLY DEVELOPMENT PLAN HAS NOT CHANGED ALL THAT MUCH.
WE'VE REALLY BEEN FOCUSED ON NEGOTIATING THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY AND TODD.
CHRISTINA DID A WONDERFUL JOB, TALKING ABOUT THE ENVISION OAK POINT AND EVERYTHING IT CONTAINS.
FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I THINK WE USE ENVISION OAK POINT, AS WELL AS THE RCD DISTRICT.
IN ENVISION OAK POINT, REALLY SET THE VISION, AND RCD WAS THE FRAMEWORK FOR US TO BE ABLE
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TO EXECUTE AND DEVELOP THE PLAN THAT WE HAVE TODAY.WE BELIEVE THAT WE'RE ALIGNED WITH ALL THE ITEMS WITHIN THERE.
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, WE'RE EXECUTING THE VISION THAT WAS REALLY PROVIDED TO US BY THE COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS AND PROVIDES YOU, THE DECISION MAKERS, A REALLY CLEAR POLICY DIRECTION TO MAKE THE DECISION ON.
SO WE'VE INCORPORATED THESE KEY ELEMENTS INTO OUR PLAN, WHICH CERTAINLY ENHANCES MOBILITY, THE ECONOMY, AND SENSE COMMUNITY.
CURRENT ASSESSED VALUE IS LESS THAN $900,000, WITH OVER A $600 MILLION ESTIMATED VALUE AT FULL BUILDOUT.
SO CERTAINLY HAS AN IMPACT ON THE OVERALL ECONOMIC BENEFIT OF THIS AREA.
AS CHRISTINA NOTED, WE REALLY VIEW THIS IN FOUR DIFFERENT PARTS: THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOME, WHICH WE'RE UTILIZING THE RCD DISTRICT WITH THREE DIFFERENT TIERS, THE FAMILY RESERVE, THE 34 CHRISTINA SAID 37 ACRES OF PARKLAND AND THE MULTI-FAMILY ZONE THAT HAS 815 MULTIFAMILY UNITS PLUS 2374 FOR RENT TOWNHOMES.
CERTAINLY, THE DIVERSITY OF HOUSING IS PICKED UP WITH THE THREE DIFFERENT TIERS THAT WE HAVE IN THE SINGLE-FAMILY PHASE, BUT ALSO THE VARIOUS IN THE MULTI-FAMILY AS WELL.
AS CHRISTINA NOTED, DON'T WANT TO BE REPETITIVE, BUT WE ARE COMMITTED TO THIS PHASING PLAN TO ENSURE THAT MULTI-FAMILY ISN'T THE ONLY PRODUCT TYPE, AND WE CAN SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE DURING THE Q&A BECAUSE I KNOW THERE ARE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.
BUT WE WANTED TO ENSURE THAT MULTI-FAMILY WASN'T THE ONLY THING THAT WAS BUILT.
AND SO WE HAVE COMMITTED TO TWO SINGLE-FAMILY HOME PHASES WITH EACH RESPECTIVE MULTI-FAMILY PHASE.
AS IT RELATES TO THE MULTI-FAMILY DESIGN, THE QUESTION.
THESE ARE SOME OF THE RENDERINGS THAT ARE IN THE EXHIBIT.
ALSO, IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WAS APPROVED EARLIER, WE HAVE MADE A COMMITMENT AND A REQUIREMENT FOR US TO WORK WITH THE DIRECTOR PLANNING TO GET OUR FACADE PLANS APPROVED.
AND SO WE'VE MADE THAT COMMITMENT.
WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN WAS INTENDED TO BE WARM COLOR TONES, CERTAINLY PRESERVING SOME AGRARIAN CHARACTER, HAVING THAT DIVERSE HOUSING MIX, REALLY TRYING TO CREATE OUTDOOR SPACES THAT ACTIVATES THAT COMMUNAL BOND.
AND SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH CHRISTINA ON GETTING THE FACADE PLAN APPROVED.
ON THE SINGLE-FAMILY SIDE, TODD HAS HAD A VERY STRONG VISION SINCE DAY ONE.
HE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE GARAGES WERE ACCESSED BY THE ALLEY THAT WEREN'T IN THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE.
AND SO WE HAVE ALLEY ACCESS GARAGES AND EVERYTHING ON EVERY SINGLE HOME.
HE WANTED TO ENSURE THAT EVERY YARD HAD A FRONT YARD AND WHERE POSSIBLE THAT FRONT YARD OPENED UP INTO POCKET PARK OR OPEN SPACE, AND THEN ALSO, THE PORCHES SCATTERED THROUGHOUT IT.
AND SO, AGAIN, YOU REALLY FOCUSED ON CREATING THAT SENSE OF COMMUNITY, POCKET PARKS, OPEN SPACE, AND JUST THE DIVERSITY OF HOUSING WITH RIGHT-SIZE HOMES IN THREE DIFFERENT TIERS OF LOTS.
CHRISTINA COVERED THE THREE TIERS OF LOTS.
AND JUST ENDING ON PARKS AND OPEN SPACE, REALLY ABOUT 45% OF THIS PROJECT IS DEDICATED TO RIGHT AWAY PARK LANE AND OPEN SPACE.
WHAT THIS SLIDE ALSO DOES IS GIVES YOU A GOOD VISUAL OF HOW THE TRAILS AND NETWORK REALLY CONNECTS THE SHAWNEE PARK THROUGH OUR TRAIL SYSTEM ALL THE WAY THROUGH OAK POINT PARK.
AND THAT WAS A BIG PORTION OF OUR GOAL IS TO TRY TO COMPLY WITH THE ENVISION OAK POINT AND MAKE THAT CONNECTION.
FROM THERE, I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO JOEL.
LARGELY BECAUSE I LOOKED AT MY WATCH, AND IT SAYS MY HEART'S SET AT 98, AND IT'S NOT BECAUSE I'M NERVOUS, IT'S BECAUSE I'M EXCITED.
TO WORK ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS FOR SO LONG WITH TODD AND TO BE HERE TONIGHT.
CLEARLY, THIS PHOTOS TAKEN NEARLY 90 YEARS AGO.
I THINK IT'S FROM THE 40S, BUT A LOT'S CHANGED IN PLANO SINCE THIS PHOTO WAS TAKEN.
I ALREADY SAID, I'LL SAY IT AGAIN, THEY'VE BEEN AMAZING STEWARDS OF THEIR LAND.
BUT WHEN IT BECAME CLEAR THAT IT WAS NO LONGER PRACTICAL TO FARM IN PLANO, TODD DID NOT TAKE THE EASY PATH.
HE ENGAGED WITH THE COMMUNITY.
I'VE BEEN QUOTING EIGHT YEARS, KEVIN, I'VE BEEN QUOTING EIGHT YEARS IN TERMS OF
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SEVEN TO EIGHT YEARS IN TERMS OF PLANNING WITH THE CITY ON ENVISION OAK POINT.HE SHARED A PRESENTATION FROM 2002 WHEN WE WERE HERE AT PLANNING COMMISSION LATE LAST MONTH.
THAT WAS THE YEAR I GRADUATED COLLEGE.
BLAKE, THE BLOND-HAIRED ONE, IN THE SUIT OVER THERE. HE WAS THREE.
THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.
A LOT OF WORK GOES INTO GETTING TO THIS STAGE.
HE DID NOT TAKE THE EASY PATH.
WHY? WELL, TODD AND HIS FAMILY WANT FUTURE GENERATIONS TO ENJOY THE LAND IN A WAY THAT HIS FAMILY ENJOYED IT.
THE MORE'S PATIENTS CREATED AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A WORLD-CLASS DEVELOPMENT.
THAT HAS BEEN SHAPED BY THE COMMUNITY.
I LOVED WHAT, I GUESS IT WAS THE PLAN COMMISSIONER BRONOF MENTIONED AT PLANNING COMMISSION.
IS THIS PLAN PERFECT? NO, NO PLANS PERFECT? WE THINK TO QUOTE HIM, HE SAID, YOU CAN'T LET PERFECT BE THE ENEMY OF GOOD.
I THINK IT WAS A PHRASE THAT WAS USED A COUPLE OF TIMES AT PLANNING COMMISSION.
TO GET A PLAN B WHERE EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM ABSOLUTELY LOVES IT AND HAS NOTHING TO SAY ABOUT IT, I THINK, IS IMPOSSIBLE.
BUT I THINK THIS KIT IS PRETTY CLOSE.
TONIGHT, YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPROVE A PLAN THAT WE THINK IS GREAT, MAYBE NOT PERFECT, BUT A PLAN THAT'S BEEN IN THE WORK FOR OVER 20 YEARS, A PLAN THAT'S IN COMPLIANCE WITH ENVISION OAK POINT, AND A PLAN THAT RECEIVED UNANIMOUS APPROVAL FROM PLANNING COMMISSION.
WITH THAT, APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TONIGHT.
I'LL TURN OVER TO YOU FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
GET IT GOING. THANK YOU, KEVIN. I'M SORRY.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND FINISH THE SPEAKERS, AND THEN I'LL CLOSE THE OPEN PUBLIC HEARING, AND THEN WE'LL LET COUNSEL ASK ANY QUESTIONS THEY HAVE.
THE FIRST SPEAKER IS PATRICK SPROUL.
HELLO. I'M PATRICK SPROUL, I'M A PLANO RESIDENT.
I LIVE IN THE AREA OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, AND I JUST HAVE A FEW CONCERNS.
I'M JUST A PERSON, A RETIREE THAT LIVES THERE AND SOME OF THE PEOPLE I'VE TALKED TO IN THE AREA AS WELL.
OUR CONCERN IS IN THIS AREA, WE'RE BUILDING WELL, LITTLE OVER 1,600 APARTMENTS, TOWNHOMES, RESIDENCES.
RIGHT NEXT DOOR, WE HAVE ANOTHER APARTMENT COMPLEX CALLED GEO APARTMENTS, AND THEY HAVE 700 UNITS RIGHT NEXT DOOR.
THEN, ACROSS THE STREET IS ANOTHER APARTMENT COMPLEX, ASSEMBLY PARK HAS 300 APARTMENTS.
NEXT DOOR TO THAT IS ANOTHER APARTMENT COMPLEX.
THAT'S AT THE CORNER OF JUPITER AND SPRING CREEK, AND THAT HAS ANOTHER 300 APARTMENTS.
THEN AT PARKER AND JUPITER, AS A NEW DEVELOPMENT THERE, ANOTHER 100 MULTI-FAMILY UNITS THERE.
THAT'S A GRAND TOTAL OF OVER 3000 APARTMENTS OR RESIDENCES, NOT ALL APARTMENTS.
BUT OVER 3,000 RESIDENCES IS SMALL AREA.
PEOPLE I'VE TALKED TO, WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT TRAFFIC.
THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT AREA EVERY DAY, GO TO WORK, GO TO THE GROCERY STORE, WHATEVER.
THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC, AND PEOPLE ARE WORRIED.
I READ THE PAPER AND IMPACT, AND THEY TALK ABOUT AN EXPANSION OF COLLIN COLLEGE ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT AND THEY SAY LOOKING AT AN INCREASE OF 50 TO 20% STUDENTS.
THERE'S ALREADY STUDENTS COMING IN AND OUT OF THERE. PRETTY REGULAR.
I WALK BY THERE JUST ABOUT EVERY DAY, AND THERE'S CARS COMING IN AND OUT ALL THE TIME.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ADDITION OF TRAFFIC THERE AS WELL.
THAT'S JUST A CONCERN THAT THE TRAFFIC AND HAVING OVER 30000 RESIDENCES, IT JUST SEEMS IS GOING TO CAUSE A TRAFFIC PROBLEM. THANK YOU.
THE NEXT SPEAKER IS BILL LYLE.
GOOD EVENING, COUNSEL, BILL LYLE, PLANO, TEXAS,
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AND AN AVID SUPPORTER OF ALL THINGS EAST PLANO.ONE THING KEVIN DIDN'T MENTION TO YOU TONIGHT WAS THAT HE WAS OUR 1995 PARTNER RAM MASCOT.
HE AND I WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL TOGETHER.
[LAUGHTER] THEN, TODD, I KNOW TODD FROM THE DOUGHNUT SHOP, AND I COULDN'T BE MORE EXCITED ABOUT THEM BEING SUCCESSFUL ON THIS PROJECT.
ONE IS THE RESIDENTIAL THAT BACKS UP TO LI-1 ZONING.
I SAW ON SLIDE 56, WHERE IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A SLIVER OF OPEN SPACE THROUGH THERE.
I'M JUST CURIOUS WHAT THAT SETBACK ACTUALLY IS.
I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE EAST-WEST CORRIDOR.
I KNOW ON THE FUTURE LAND USE OR ON THE FUTURE THROUGHFARE MAP, THERE'S A CONNECTION TO US 75.
I SEE LITTLE WALKING SYMBOLS, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT CONNECTION HAS BEEN CONSIDERED AT ALL.
ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE CREEK THAT'S ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY, AVENUE P DEAD ENDS AT SHERWOOD LANE.
I WAS SURPRISED THAT THERE WASN'T A CONNECTION BECAUSE IF YOU WERE GOING TO RIDE A BIKE TO DOWNTOWN, YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO BE ON AVENUE K OR JUPITER, YOU'D WANT TO BE ON AVENUE P. I GUESS VEHICLE TRAFFIC IS MORE IMPORTANT BECAUSE THERE ARE CONNECTIONS WITH THE BIKE TRAIL WHERE SOMEONE, IF THEY DID WANT TO RIDE A BIKE, WOULD COME ACROSS THERE.
BUT ANYWAY, I WAS SURPRISED THAT THERE WASN'T VEHICLE CONNECTION THERE.
NOW SPEAKING MORE FROM A DEVELOPER MINDSET, I THINK PART OF THIS IS LIKE SAVING THE ROCK WALL ENTRANCE WHERE I GO TO BUY MY YOGURT, AND I LOVE THE AESTHETIC OF THAT, BUT I THINK PRACTICALLY, HAVING SOMEONE BE FORCED TO KEEP THESE LITTLE ROCK WALLS WITH A NARROW GATE ISN'T PRACTICAL.
I'D LOVE TO SEE THE AESTHETIC OF THAT RURAL AGRARIAN GATE ENTRANCE, BUT IT PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE LARGER, AND FROM P AND Z, I THINK IT WAS MENTIONED THAT THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE TO SAVE THAT ONE.
WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT SB 15 AND WHAT THEY COULD DO HERE.
BUT ONE THING THAT I DIDN'T HEAR WAS, WHAT'S THE AVERAGE LOT SIZE THAT THEY ARE BRINGING US.
BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE PRETTY SMALL LOTS. WHAT IS IT? AND WHY HAVEN'T WE BEEN GIVEN THAT INFORMATION? FOR PHASE 1 AND PHASE 2 TO GET THE 500 AND THE 552 MULTIFAMILY UNITS.
I SAW THAT THEY HAD TO DO A SINGLE-FAMILY PHASE, BUT WE HAVEN'T BEEN TOLD WHICH ONE THEY PLAN ON DOING ON EITHER ONE OF THOSE.
THEN THERE SEEMS TO BE A HUGE OBSTACLE TO GOING TO THE WEST OF THE ROUNDABOUT, BECAUSE IF THEY GO TO THE WEST OF THE ROUNDABOUT, THEY GOT TO BUILD THAT WHOLE ROADWAY.
I THINK FOR THE SHORT TERM, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IS 1000 APARTMENT UNITS AND TWO SMALL SINGLE-PHASE UNITS OVER BY JUPITER, WHICH IS FINE.
I JUST THINK IT'D BE GOOD TO KNOW WHICH ONES THEY'RE PLANNING ON DOING.
I DID HEAR A LOT OF WELL, THIS IS GOOD, BUT MAYBE IT COULD BE BETTER AT P&Z AND I JUST WONDER IF THE WAY. OH, I'M ALREADY OUT? IT'S BEEN A WHILE.
OH, REALLY? YOU FINISH YOUR THOUGHT.
THE THOUGHT IS JUST I WONDER IF THERE'S SOME WAY TO GET THEM STARTED ON SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE READY TO GET STARTED ON AND MAYBE MAKE IT EVEN BETTER.
IT'S HARD TO BE A PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONER.
PEOPLE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR YEARS, AND THEN THEY GET 10 MINUTES TO LOOK AT IT.
MAYBE THERE'S SOME MORE WORK THAT COULD BE DONE AND STILL TURN THE DEVELOPER LOOSE ON WHAT THEY WANT TO GET STARTED ON. THANK YOU FOR THAT.
ODDLY ENOUGH, NOT BROUGHT UP, WHERE THE ENVISION OAK POINTE.
OH, MAN, I LOST MY TALKING POINTS.
WERE THE ENVISION OAK POINTE DART STATIONS THAT ARE ALSO IN VISION WELL, OKAY, SORRY, TRANSIT STATIONS THAT ARE IN THE ENVISION OAK POINTE PLAN.
PLANO'S CURRENT PLANNING GOALS REFERENCE WALKABILITY, AFFORDABILITY, AND EXPANDED PUBLIC TRANSIT ACCESS.
HOWEVER, THIS DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION REALLY FOCUSES ON HOUSING.
THE PROJECT IS ADDING OVER 1,000 HOMES, WHICH IS GOING TO MEAN MORE CARS ON THE ROAD, PARTICULARLY BECAUSE I DIDN'T HEAR HOW WE'RE GOING TO INTEGRATE THIS BETTER WITH OUR WALKING PATHS, OUR AWARD-WINNING TRAILS, AS WELL AS OUR BIKE LANES.
I WOULD NOT WANT TO RIDE MY BIKE ON AVENUE K. WITHOUT CONFIRMED INTEGRATION OF THE DIRT SURFACES OR WALKABLE INFRASTRUCTURE, I FEEL LIKE A DEVELOPMENT OF THE SCALE IS GOING TO INCREASE OUR CONGESTION ACROSS THE CITY.
ALONG WITH THAT, WE HAVE 4% UNDEVELOPED LAND REMAINING.
I REMEMBER AT ONE POINT SOME PEOPLE ON THIS COUNSEL AND MAYBE OTHER AREAS WANTED US TO HAVE NO LESS THAN 5%.
IF WE TAKE THIS RAW LAND AND DEVELOP IT, THEN WE'LL BE AT 4%.
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WELL, YES, THEY CAN DO THIS THROUGH SB 15. YOU DON'T HAVE TO.WE COULD LEAVE THIS TO BE A NATURE PRESERVE BECAUSE IT DOES CURRENTLY SERVE AS A BUFFER. THINK OF THE ANIMALS.
OVERALL, THE RESIDENTS HERE HAVE EXPRESSED INTEREST IN SEEING BETTER ALIGNMENT BETWEEN YOUR ADOPTED PLANS AND THE DEVELOPMENT DECISIONS.
YOU GUYS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PAUSE YOUR VOTE ON THIS AND ALLOW MORE CONVERSATION TO OCCUR.
THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] THERE ARE NO OTHER SPEAKERS.
I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND COMBINE THE COMMENTS TO THE COUNSEL. COUNSEL MEMBER LAVINE.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR THE DEVELOPERS, AND THERE HAS BEEN SOME DISCUSSION, CONCERN ABOUT WALKABILITY CONNECTIVITY TO THE SURROUNDING AREAS.
I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE ABILITY TO ACCESS THE SCHOOL TO THE SOUTH FROM THE DEVELOPMENT.
IS THERE GOING TO BE ANY CUT-THROUGHS OR TRAILS AND SUCH THAT WOULD ALLOW STUDENTS TO WALK TO SCHOOL.
JUST IN GENERAL, CAN YOU GET AROUND THE DEVELOPMENT TO FUTURE RETAIL ALONG THE AREA AROUND THE PLANO EVENT CENTER? CERTAINLY. REGARDING THE SHAWNEE PARK AND THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, IF YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN, THIS IS OUR PARKS AND OPEN SPACE.
WE DO HAVE WHAT YOU SEE IN RED ARROWS AND HASH ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PLAN IS FUTURE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS.
THAT'S REALLY THE INTENT IS TO CREATE THOSE CONNECTIONS BETWEEN SHAWNEE PARK, THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, WITHIN OUR OWN TRAIL SYSTEM INTEGRATED THROUGHOUT OUR PROJECT THAT FUNNELS NORTH.
ONE IS A NEW TRAIL ALONG JUPITER ROAD, BUT THERE'S ALSO SHARED PASS IN TRAILS THROUGHOUT THE INTERNAL OF OUR DEVELOPMENT.
WE HAVE MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES TO CREATE TRAILHEADS IN THIS AREA, AND THAT HAS BEEN OUR KEY GOAL FOCUS IS TO GET THAT CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN SHAWNEE PARK AND OAKHILLS PARK.
AS IT RELATES TO THE CONNECTIVITY FROM THE NORTH SIDE OF OUR PROJECT, WE HAVE AGAIN, A PATH ALONG JUPITER ROAD ON THE EAST SIDE, BUT WE ALSO HAVE THREE DIFFERENT VEHICULAR CONNECTIONS AS WELL AS A 12 UNSHARED PATH ON THE MAIN NORTH-SOUTH ARTERIAL.
WAS I ABLE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS? YES. THANK YOU.
CAN YOU PULL UP THAT SLIDE THAT HAD THAT PRETTY PICTURE OF THE FARM WITH THE SUNSET BEHIND IT? I HADN'T SEEN THAT BEFORE.
NO. I ALSO WAS PART OF THE ENVISION OAK POINT WORKSHOPS AND MEETINGS, AND REMEMBER MEETING MR. MOORE THERE FOR THE FIRST TIME.
I ACTUALLY DINED AT THE ASSEMBLY PARK RESTAURANT THAT HAS OPENED RECENTLY OVER THERE.
IT'S EXCITING TO ME TO SEE ALL OF THIS STARTING TO SLOWLY COME TO FRUITION.
THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS THAT WERE BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE MOST OF THEM HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED WITH ACCESSIBILITY, THE TRAILS, HAVING SOME NON-RESIDENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR WALKABILITY.
ORIGINALLY, MY DISCUSSIONS WERE MORE ABOUT THEM BEING WHERE THE MULTI-FAMILY WAS ORIGINALLY IN THE ENVISION OAK POINT PLAN, BUT I WAS PLEASED TO HEAR THAT IN THAT FAMILY PRESERVE AREA, THAT THERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY THERE TO PUT SOME NON-RESIDENTIAL USES THAT WILL HOPEFULLY BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER.
WHEN I WENT OUT AND VISITED THE SITE, MR. MOORE INVITED ME OUT, I THINK IT WAS LAST MARCH. IT'S BEEN A WHILE.
BEING IN THAT AREA THAT'S THAT FAMILY PRESERVE AND LEARNING MORE ABOUT THE FAMILY'S HISTORY AND SEEING THE TRAFFIC, EVEN TODAY, I WENT OVER THERE AND SAT FOR A LITTLE WHILE, AND YOU HAVE A FOLLOWING.
YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING TO VISIT YOU ALREADY IN THAT AREA AND HEARING YOUR VISION FOR THE TRAILS CONNECTING AND HAVING ALL OF THIS GREEN SPACE, AND HAVING MAYBE SOME FOOD TRUCKS COME IN AND PRESERVING WHAT YOUR FAMILY HAS PUT THERE.
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IT'S REALLY EXCITING TO ME BECAUSE SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE PLANO DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF LANDMARKS.
I'VE WORKED WITH ARTISTS BEFORE THAT ARE CREATING THESE PRETTY DISH TOWELS, AND THEY WANT TO PUT ICONS OF PLANO, AND WE'VE GOT THE GAZEBO DOWNTOWN AND WE'VE GOT HOT AIR BALLOONS, THIS IS BEAUTIFUL.
THIS PLANO HISTORY HERE, AND IT'S HIDDEN RIGHT NOW.
I MEAN, UNLESS YOU'RE GOING TO GET YOGURT, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T EVEN KNOW IT'S THERE.
THE IDEA OF ACTUALLY INVITING MORE PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY IN TO LEARN THE HISTORY OF PLANO AND TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER IN A GREEN SPACE.
I DO RECOGNIZE THE FACT THAT YOU COULD HAVE DONE A LOT MORE IF YOU WERE JUST LOOKING TO PROFIT FROM THE LAND, BUT YOU REALLY HAVE PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT, A LOT OF HEART INTO THIS, AND ONE OF THE FIRST ZONING CASES THAT WAS BEFORE ME WHEN I JOINED THE CITY COUNCIL IN '21 WAS HAGGARD FARMS. IT WAS VERY SIMILAR AND THAT THAT WAS FAMILY PROPERTY, HAD BEEN IN THE FAMILY FOR A REALLY LONG TIME, AND IT WAS VERY THOUGHTFULLY PLANNED AND DIDN'T HAVE TO BE.
BUT THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO THE FAMILY.
I WAS REALLY PROUD TO BE PART OF THE COUNCIL THAT APPROVED THAT.
I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOUR FAMILY HAS DONE TO CREATE SUCH A THOUGHTFUL DEVELOPMENT, SO I WOULD BE PROUD TO BE ON THE COUNCIL THAT APPROVES THIS PROPERTY.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT. WE WANTED TO PLAN IT THAT WAY BECAUSE I WOULDN'T FEEL RIGHT GETTING RID OF IT ANY OTHER WAY.
THERE'S ENOUGH HISTORY THERE THAT I FELT A REAL NEED TO TRY TO CONSERVE IT.
IF WE CAN SHARE IT WITH THE PUBLIC, WE'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO THAT.
>> I'M SURE OTHER PEOPLE HAVE COMMENTS, BUT I'M READY TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS.
>> WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS JUST GO DOWN THE DAIS.
I'M GOING TO START WITH YOU, COUNCILMAN KEHR.
AS I LOOK AT YOUR PROPERTY AND I THINK ABOUT ALL THE THINGS WE HAVE TO MARRY TOGETHER HERE.
THE STATE IS ASKING US TO INCREASE DENSITY AND HAVE A PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE.
THE RESIDENTS ARE SAYING THEY DON'T LIKE MULTIFAMILY, THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT TRAFFIC.
WE HAVE THE HERITAGE CONCERNS OF THE GREAT PROPERTY THAT YOU HAVE THERE.
I THINK THIS PROJECT BRINGS IT ALL TOGETHER.
WE HAVE HOUSING, WE HAVE DIVERSITY OF HOUSING, WE HAVE SOME MULTIFAMILY, BUT IT ISN'T ALL THAT.
IT'S PRESERVING THE NATURE OF THIS GREAT SPOT, SO I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN HORNE.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. LIKE JULIE, BUT ACTUALLY, A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, I WAS PART OF THE ENVISION OAK POINT PLANNING.
I WAS ON THE PARKS AND REC COMMISSION AT THAT TIME, AND I ATTENDED THOSE MEETINGS.
THERE WAS A LIVELY DISCUSSIONS, IF YOU REMEMBER, TODD.
A LOT OF IT CAME FROM STUDENTS THAT LIVED IN THE APARTMENTS ACROSS THE STREET.
THEY WANTED MORE PLACES TO LIVE.
THEY WERE ALL WANTING THE SAME THINGS WHAT WE'RE TARGETING HERE, WALKABILITY, RETAINING HERITAGE, THOSE ELEMENTS.
THE OTHER ONE THOUGH THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, WHICH WE REALLY HAVEN'T ADDRESSED TODAY WAS AFFORDABILITY.
GRANTED, THAT SEEMS TO BE A TOUGH TERM.
TO ANSWER MR. LYLE'S QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE LOTS, THOSE SINGLE FAMILY THREES AND SINGLE FAMILY TWOS, THOSE WERE 3,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS AND 2000 SQUARE FOOT LOT BILL.
THOSE WERE LISTED IN HIS PLANS HERE. TO ADDRESS YOUR POINT.
BUT WHEN WE GO TO THE SMALLER LOTS, AND WE HAVE AN ARCHITECTURALLY PLEASING HOMES WITH THE PORCHES, WRAP AROUND PORCHES, AND KEEPING THE FARM HERITAGE INTACT, IT MAKES IT ALMOST AFFORDABLE FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS.
IT MAKES IT AFFORDABLE FOR OUR TEACHERS, AND EVEN FOR SENIORS WHO ARE WANTING TO SCALE DOWN AND MOVE INTO A SMALLER HOUSE.
I APPLAUD YOU FOR STAYING WITH THE PLAN, NOT JUST ROLLING OVER AND TAKING SB15 TO HEART.
I APPRECIATE ALL YOU'VE DONE FOR THE CITY, YOUR FAMILY'S DONE FOR THE CITY, AND I ALSO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU WORK WITH A GREAT FIRM HERE TO GET THIS TOGETHER.
MY ONLY OTHER QUESTION IS TIMING.
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OUR EMPLOYERS WANT PEOPLE TO LIVE NEAR WHERE THEY WORK.DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF A SCHEDULE HERE ON WHEN WE'LL START HAVING THE APARTMENTS, BUT ALSO WHEN WE MIGHT START THINKING ABOUT SEEING THOSE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, THOSE MODELS?
AS YOU SAW, WE WILL BE CONSTRUCTING THE FIRST PHASE OF SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SIMULTANEOUSLY WITH THE FIRST PHASE OF THE MULTIFAMILY.
FINDING BUILDERS TO BUILD THE PRODUCT THAT WE WANT IS GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE, BUT I'M WILLING TO TAKE THAT ON.
ONE, I DON'T WANT TO OFFEND ANYBODY, BUT TWO, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE A TRACK HOME DEVELOPMENT.
IF I WAS GOING TO DO A TRACK HOME DEVELOPMENT, I DON'T NEED THESE GUYS, I DON'T NEED RCD, THAT'S EASY.
IT'LL HAPPEN IN A COUPLE OF YEARS WITH A TRACK HOME DEVELOPMENT.
THIS ONE WE WANT TO TAKE OUR TIME AND MAKE SURE THAT WE SET THE TONE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT WITH THE RIGHT ARCHITECTURE IN THE RIGHT BUILDERS.
THERE'S GOING TO BE A LIFT THERE, BUT WE ARE GOING TO BE WORKING ON IT FULL TIME AND MAKING IT GO AS FAST AS POSSIBLE.
BUT IT WILL NOT BE TWO YEAR BUILDOUT.
IT'LL BE SEVEN YEARS, WHAT I QUOTED AT THE P AND Z.
>> I PRETTY MUCH AGREE WITH THAT WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO HERE BECAUSE WE GOT ALL THE UTILITIES YOU HAVE TO BUILD, YOU STILL GOT THE ROADWAYS TO CONSTRUCT, YOU GOT THE MULTIFAMILY TO CONSTRUCT, AND THEN WE'RE DOING THE UTILITIES AND THE PATH SITES, AND THEN YOU GOT THE PLANTING.
IT'S A SEVEN YEAR PROJECT AT THE FASTEST, I THINK.
>> BUT WE'LL BE MOVING FULL SPEED AHEAD.
>> THE ONLY CONNECTION I HAVE IS ANGELA MINOR, WHO IS MY PREDECESSOR.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING I KNOW IS BEFORE SHE RETIRES, SHE SAYS, DON'T FORGET THE ENVISION OAK POINT.
I SAID, OKAY, WHATEVER THAT IS.
ANYWAY, I'M VERY THRILLED AND I'M VERY EXCITED.
I BELIEVE THAT DENSITY IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE AN ISSUE WHEN YOU'RE HAVING GROWTH IN POPULATION IN THE CITY OF PLANO.
WE HAVE A GREAT CITY, AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY PEOPLE KEEP WANTING TO MOVE HERE.
BUT ON THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT, I ACTUALLY LIVE, OBVIOUSLY, I'M ON THE EAST SIDE.
I LIVE ON THE EAST SIDE, AND I AM SURROUNDED BY 11 APARTMENT COMPLEXES IN MY LITTLE HOUSING COMMUNITY.
WE DON'T REALLY FEEL THE IMPACT OF TRAFFIC BECAUSE I BELIEVE THERE'S REALLY A GOOD REGULATED ROADS AND TRAFFIC ROADS ARE BUILT TO ACCOMMODATE THESE TYPE OF INCREASE IN TRAFFIC.
THAT IS ONE THING THAT I BELIEVE THAT IF THAT IS PART OF THE CONSIDERATION, I THINK THAT IT SHOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE.
OBVIOUSLY, IF I DIDN'T, ANGELA WILL PROBABLY WHIP ME, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I TOTALLY FULLY IN SUPPORT.
I THINK ANYBODY WHO LOVES PLANO, LIKE YOU DO, WILL NOT ALLOW THIS PROJECT TO BE UNCHECKED AND ALLOW THIS PROJECT TO BE SOMETHING LESS THAN HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT PLANO.
I'M GOING TO TAKE IT ON FAITH THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE US ALL PROUD.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER DOWNS.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. MR. MOORE, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION TO THE CITY OF PLANO OVER ALL THE YEARS.
I'VE ENJOYED MEETING YOU, AS I WAS CAMPAIGNING EARLIER THIS YEAR AND SEEING YOUR VISION.
ALL THE WAY BACK FROM OAK POINT, I REMEMBER HEARING ALL ABOUT THAT AND BEING ENGAGED IN IT MYSELF.
I THINK THAT WHAT YOU DID THROUGH THIS AND YOUR HARD WORK IS YOU TOOK ALL OF THE BEST ELEMENTS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE HISTORY OF PLANO, AND ENVISION OAK POINT, AND YOU PUT IT TOGETHER WITH SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE A GREAT VALUE TO THE EAST SIDE OF PLANO, AND I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT IT.
>> I WILL JUST ADD TO WHAT EVERYBODY SAID THAT I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THESE NEIGHBORHOODS GROW AND DEVELOP.
I THINK THIS WILL BE SOME OUTSTANDING HOUSING PRODUCT FOR PLANO, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE IDEA THAT THESE NEIGHBORHOODS WILL REALLY GROW AND CONTRIBUTE TO YOUNG FAMILIES MOVING IN, MORE CHILDREN, AND SO MORE POWER TO YOU ON THIS, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO IT. THANK YOU.
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>> THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN QUINTANILLA.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THERE YOU GO.
JUST MY MIC FROM TIME TO TIME.
MR. MOORE AND THE MOORE FAMILY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BRINGING THIS PROJECT FORWARD.
I KNOW YOU'VE TRAVELED LONG ROAD SO FAR, AND EVEN TO THIS POINT, YOU'VE HAD TO RELOCATE YOUR COWS BECAUSE YOU CAN'T PRODUCE AS MUCH DAIRY AS IT IS TODAY.
EVEN AT THAT, YOU STILL KEPT WITH THE PROJECT INSTEAD OF JUST COMPLETELY SELLING YOUR PROPERTY, SO I APPRECIATE ALL WORKING WITH US ON THAT.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS, AND AS GOING LAST I HAND IT OVER TO YOU, MAYOR.
>> GOD, IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING.
I THINK SOME OF US ARE LYING, BUT I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT.
BUT THANKS FOR YOUR PATIENCE, AND THANKS FOR COMMITTING TO YOUR IDEAS OF WHAT YOU WANTED TO CREATE.
IT'S HARD TO DO, ESPECIALLY AS LONG AS YOU'VE BEEN AT IT.
>> WELL, I OWE IT TO THE STAFF.
WITHOUT THE RCD, WE REALLY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DELIVER THIS REALLY GREAT DEVELOPMENT.
I'M GOING TO SHOUT OUT TO THE ENGINEERS AND ARCHITECTS AND CBRE.
I CAN BE A GOOD DREAMER, BUT I CAN'T DO WHAT THEY DID, AND SO I HAVE TO THANK THEM AT THE SAME TIME.
>> WELL, WITH THEIR REPUTATION, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT WHAT'S TO COME.
WE WISH YOU THE BEST, AND WITH THIS, I HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 2.
YES, ITEM NUMBER 2. PLEASE VOTE.
THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] NEXT ITEM.
>> ITEM NUMBER 3. PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE AS REQUESTED IN ZONING CASE 2025-16, TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY, ORDINANCE NUMBER 2015-5-2 AS HERETOFORE AMENDED.
TO AMEND SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 56 FOR COMMERCIAL ANTENNA SUPPORT STRUCTURE ON 0.1 ACRE OF LAND, LOCATED 225 FEET NORTH OF DEMOCRACY DRIVE AND 220 FEET EAST OF PARTNERSHIP ROAD IN THE CITY OF PLANO, COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS.
PRESENTLY ZONED COMMERCIAL EMPLOYMENT, DIRECTING A CHANGE ACCORDINGLY IN THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP OF THE CITY, AND PROVIDING A PENALTY CLAUSE, A REPEALER CLAUSE, A SAVINGS CLAUSE, A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, A PUBLICATION CLAUSE, AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
>> OVER THE WEEKEND, WE RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE APPLICANT REQUESTING TO TABLE TO JANUARY 12, 2026.
THAT IS THAT IS THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.
>> LET ME OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
>> WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER ON THIS ITEM, FELICIA TAKINO.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.
>> NO, PROBLEM. I WAS JUST MAKING SURE.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU COULD SPEAK.
I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND CONFINE THE COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL.
>> MR. MAYOR I MOVE THAT WE TABLE THIS TO JANUARY.
>> I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND TO TABLE ITEM NUMBER 3.
PLEASE VOTE. MOTION TO TABLE, EIGHT TO ZERO. NEXT ITEM.
[(4)
Public Hearing and consideration of an Ordinance as requested in Zoning Case 2025-012 to amend the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance of the City, Ordinance No. 2015-5-2, as heretofore amended, granting Specific Use Permit No. 109 for Transit Center/Station on 0.1 acre of land located 60 feet east of Communications Parkway and 24 feet north of Legacy Drive in the City of Plano, Collin County, Texas, presently zoned Planned Development-65-Central Business-1 and within the Dallas North Tollway Overlay District; directing a change accordingly in the official zoning map of the City; and providing a penalty clause, a repealer clause, a savings clause, a severability clause, a publication clause, and an effective date. Petitioner: PR Hotelier LLC
]>> ITEM NUMBER 4. PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE AS REQUESTED IN ZONING CASE 2025-12, TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY, ORDINANCE NUMBER 2015-5-2 AS HERETOFORE AMENDED, GRANTING SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 109 FOR TRANSIT CENTER STATION ON 0.1 ACRE OF LAND LOCATED 60 FEET EAST OF COMMUNICATIONS PARKWAY AND 24 FEET NORTH OF LEGACY DRIVE IN THE CITY OF PLANO, COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS.
PRESENTLY ZONED PLAN DEVELOPMENT 65 CENTRAL BUSINESS 1 WITHIN THE DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY OVERLAY DISTRICT, DIRECTING A CHANGE ACCORDINGLY IN THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP OF THE CITY, PROVIDING A PENALTY CLAUSE, A REPEALER CLAUSE, A SAVINGS CLAUSE, A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, A PUBLICATION CLAUSE, AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
>> THIS NEXT ZONING CASE NUMBER 12 IS A REQUEST FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A TRANSIT CENTER STATION.
IT IS ON A SMALL PIECE OF PROPERTY ON AN EXISTING LOT AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF COMMUNICATIONS PARKWAY AND LEGACY DRIVE.
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YOU CAN SEE IT IS ZONED PLAN DEVELOPMENT 65, CENTRAL BUSINESS 1, AND THERE'S CURRENTLY A HOTEL DEVELOPED ON THE PROPERTY.THE PURPOSE OF THIS WOULD BE TO OPERATE A BUS TRANSIT SERVICE OUT OF THE EXISTING HOTEL.
>> THIS IS THE SITE PLAN OUTLINED IN ORANGE, YOU CAN SEE THE HOTEL BUILDING.
THERE IS AN EXISTING PARKING GARAGE IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH OF THE HOTEL ADJOINED.
THE PROPOSAL WOULD BE TO ADD A BUS STOP AND LOADING AREA AT THE FRONT OF THE HOTEL.
THE LOADING AREA IS AT THE OVERHANG, YOU SEE THE HOTEL PROPERTY.
IN THE PHOTOGRAPH AT THE TOP OF THE SCREEN.
THE RIDERS WILL BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THE HOTEL AMENITIES AND THE DEVELOPMENT AS A WHOLE.
ONE OF THE RESTRICTIONS THAT'S PLACED ON THIS IS THAT THE BUSES WILL ONLY ACCESS THE SITE FROM LEGACY DRIVE AND COMMUNICATIONS.
THEY WILL NOT ACCESS WINDROWS BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC THAT WE ALL NOW EXISTS ON WINDOWS.
PARKING AT THE HOTEL, THERE ARE 481 SPACES REQUIRED FOR THE HOTEL USE.
THEY HAVE PROVIDED A FEW EXTRA SPACES AT 488.
THERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL SPACES.
WE'VE ASKED THE PROPERTY OWNER TO FILE A LETTER THAT THEY WILL AVOID NUISANCES ON ADJACENT PROPERTIES FROM THIS ADDITIONAL USE.
THEY HAVE COMMITTED TO DOING THAT, AND IT'S IN THE SUP STANDARDS.
THE PROPOSED STIPULATIONS ARE IN FRONT OF YOU.
IT WOULD BE ALLOWED JUST AS AN INCIDENTAL USE TO THE HOTEL.
FOR SOME REASON, THE HOTEL WERE TO GO AWAY, THE BUS WOULD NO LONGER BE ABLE TO UTILIZE IT.
THEY HAVE TO BE STORED OUTSIDE OF TEMPORARY PARKING FOR PASSENGER LOADING AND UNLOADING OR THEY MUST NOT BE STORED ON THE PROPERTY OUTSIDE OF THAT ONE AREA.
THEN NO MORE THAN ONE BUS MAY BE THERE AT A TIME.
ADDITIONALLY, WITH REGARD TO PARKING, WE ARE NOT GOING TO REQUIRE THEM TO PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL PARKING ON SITE, BUT THEY DO HAVE TO PROVIDE THE LETTER THAT SAYS THEY'RE GOING TO MANAGE PARKING WITHIN THE EXISTING STRUCTURE OF PARKING AND THAT THE COUNCIL, IF THERE IS A NUISANCE, CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
THIS DOES MEET THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS FUTURE LAND USE MAP, STANDARDS AND INFRASTRUCTURE POLICY.
WE HAVE NO FEEDBACK WITHIN THE SUBJECT PROPERTY OR WITHIN 200 FEET.
WE DID GET TWO RESPONSES, CITYWIDE, ONE IN SUPPORT, AND ONE IN OPPOSITION.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL SIX TO ZERO, AND THE APPLICANT DOES HAVE A PRESENTATION AVAILABLE FOR YOU, AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
>> DEPUTY MAYOR. YEAH. COUNCIL MEMBER HORNE?
>> YES. THANK YOU, MAYOR. QUESTION ABOUT CUSTOMER PARKING.
THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO BE USING THESE BUSES.
RIGHT NOW YOU'RE SAYING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE PARKING IN THE HOTEL GARAGE.
I GOT TO BE HONEST, I'VE NEVER USED THAT GARAGE, BUT TYPICALLY HOTELS CHARGE A FEE TO PARK YOUR VEHICLE THERE.
ARE THEY GOING TO CHARGE A FEE TO THE PASSENGERS?
>> I WOULD CONFIRM THIS WITH THE APPLICANT, BUT I HAVE PERSONALLY USED THIS TRAVEL SERVICE BEFORE IN DALLAS NEAR LOVE FIELD, AND I DID.
I PARKED AT A HOTEL, AND I WAS CHARGED BY THE HOTEL FOR THE PARKING.
THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THEIR BUSINESS MODEL FROM MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.
>> HEY, CHRISTINA, WHO DETERMINES WHICH BUS SERVICE WILL BE ABLE TO USE THIS TRANSIT SPOT?
>> IT WOULD BE THE PROPERTY OWNER.
IT'S GOING TO BE THAT IT WILL RUN WITH THE LAND, AND SO IT'S THEIR CONTRACT.
>> I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
>> MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
I'M THE CEO AND FOUNDER OF A COMPANY CALLED VON LANE, WHO IS HERE TO TRY AND ENTER PLANO.
I STARTED THIS BUSINESS 11 YEARS AGO WHEN I REALIZED THAT TEXANS NEEDED A THIRD WAY TO GET BETWEEN OUR GREAT CITIES.
EVERYBODY WAS DRIVING BETWEEN OUR CITIES THAT ARE ABOUT 200 MILES
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APART OR FLYING AND THE TRAIN REALLY WASN'T A GREAT OPTION.I SAID, WHY CAN'T WE HAVE A BUS SERVICE THAT RUNS ON A SCHEDULE THAT REALLY CATERS TO THE BUSINESS TRAVELER AND THE DISCERNING LEISURE TRAVELER.
MY IDEA WAS TO TAKE A 45 FOOT MOTOR COACH, CUSTOMIZE THE INSIDE, AND TURN IT INTO WHAT WE CALL A PRIVATE JET ON WHEELS.
IT'S 22 SEATS, LARGE, FIRST CLASS OVERSIZED SEATS.
YOU CAN ALMOST LAY FLAT, LEG REST.
WE HAVE AN ATTENDANT ABOARD THAT SERVES MEALS, SNACKS THROUGHOUT THE TRIP, COMPLIMENTARY WIFI.
OUR BUSINESS MODEL REALLY TOOK OFF.
WE STARTED WITH A ROUTE BETWEEN DALLAS AND AUSTIN.
OVER THE LAST 11 YEARS, WE'VE BEEN NAMED TO THE INC 500 TWICE, AND WE ARE NOW IN TEN CITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY AND LIKE TO BE IN PLANO AS NUMBER 11.
THE WAY WE DO THIS IS WE PARTNER WITH HOTEL BRANDS AND WE USE THEM AS, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, OUR TERMINAL.
IT'S SIMPLY BOARDING PASSENGERS AND UNLOADING PASSENGERS.
WE STARTED WITH DALLAS, HOUSTON, SAN ANTONIO, FORT WORTH, AND AUSTIN AND REALIZED THAT THERE WAS TREMENDOUS VALUE IN THE ABILITY TO PUT WHAT WE CALL A TERMINAL IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO WHERE PEOPLE WORK, PLAY, AND LIVE.
WE DID THAT IN THE WOODLANDS DOWN IN NORTH HOUSTON, AND PLANO SEEMED AS A LOGICAL NEXT STEP FOR US.
WE RUN A DAILY SCHEDULED SERVICE BETWEEN THESE CITIES.
FROM PLANO, WE WOULD GO TO AUSTIN.
IN THE FUTURE, WE MIGHT GO TO HOUSTON FROM PLANO, FOR EXAMPLE.
THEY BOARD WITHIN 15 MINUTES, TAKES NO TIME AT ALL TO GET ABOARD THE COACH.
YOU'RE IMMEDIATELY WORKING, YOU'RE PRODUCTIVE, OR YOU'RE RELAXING, AND YOU ARRIVE AT YOUR DESTINATION.
WE'RE BRINGING PEOPLE FROM AUSTIN TO PLANO OR PLANO TO AUSTIN.
IT'S REALLY A TRULY EXCEPTIONAL TRAVEL EXPERIENCE IS WHAT WE STRIVE FOR.
YOU CAN SEE HERE WHAT THE SEATS LOOK LIKE, LEG REST, RECLINE, SEAT BELT, TONS OF AMENITIES ABOARD WHEN YOU'RE TRAVELING.
THE BEAUTY OF THE MODEL IS THAT WE PARTNER WITH THESE HOTELS LIKE THE RENAISSANCE HERE IN PLANO.
WE BUY OUR CATERING FROM THEM, SO WE BECOME A GREAT CUSTOMER TO THEM AND WE BRING THEM ROOM NIGHTS.
A PERSON COMING FROM AUSTIN, IF THEY'RE SMART, YOU GET OFF THE COACH AND CHECK INTO A HOTEL RIGHT THERE.
IT REALLY MAKES THE TRAVEL EXPERIENCE A SEAMLESS ONE.
WE'VE DRIVEN OVER 31 MILLION SAFE MILES, MOST OF THAT IN TEXAS.
A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WE DID EXPAND TO ATLANTA, NASHVILLE, MEMPHIS, AND KNOXVILLE, IN THE SOUTHEAST REGION.
WE'VE SERVED OVER TWO MILLION PASSENGERS, AND OUR REPUTATION IS STELLAR, IF YOU WANT TO CHECK OUT ANY OF OUR YELP REVIEWS.
AS I SAID, WE PARTNER WITH GREAT HOTEL BRANDS.
WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT PARTNERING WITH THE RENAISSANCE HERE IN PLANO.
YOU CAN SEE HERE, WE'VE PARTNERED WITH HYATT'S, DOUBLE TREES, MARRIOTTS, AND HILTONS IN DIFFERENT CITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY AND AROUND TEXAS.
AS FAR AS THE PARKING GOES, WE DO CHARGE OUR PASSENGERS FOR PARKING.
WE DON'T. THE HOTEL GETS THAT SOURCE OF REVENUE.
BUT HONESTLY, I TRAVEL ABOARD OUR MOTOR COACHES ALMOST ONCE A WEEK.
RIDE SHARE IS THE WAY OUR PASSENGERS GET TO AND FROM THE VEHICLES.
THOSE COMING FROM OUT OF TOWN REALLY USUALLY JUST HAVE A RIDE SHARE WAITING FOR THEM WHEN THEY ARRIVE.
MOST OF OUR PASSENGERS DEPARTING TOWN, HAVE A LOVED ONE FAMILY MEMBER DROP THEM OFF, OR THEY RIDE SHARE TO THE HOTEL AND GET ON THE COACH.
AGAIN, IT'S JUST IN TIME TRAVEL.
I SEE THE POWER TRAVELERS GET THERE FIVE MINUTES BEFORE THE DOORS CLOSE, GET ABOARD, THREE HOURS LATER, THEY LOOK UP THERE IN AUSTIN.
THEY'VE CLEANED OUT THEIR INBOX, OR THEY'VE RELAXED OR GOTTEN SOME WORK DONE.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THESE SLIDES JUST GIVE YOU A LOOK AT WHAT THE PRODUCT IS.
IT'S A VERY HIGH END LUXURY PRODUCT THAT BRINGS GREAT TRAVELERS TO PLANO AND GIVES YOUR CITIZENS AN OPTION TO GET TO AUSTIN.
>> THANK YOU, ALEX. COUNCIL MEMBER LAVINE.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
I HAVE ALSO USED YOUR SERVICE TO TRAVEL DOWN TO AUSTIN ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS.
WILL YOU BE HAVING THE SAME BUSES LEAVE THE LOVE FIELD AREA COMING TO PLANO AND THEN GOING TO AUSTIN OR THIS WILL BE SEPARATE.
>> THE BUSINESS MODEL THAT WE'VE STUCK TO FOR 11 YEARS IS NON STOP.
I MEAN, PEOPLE WANT A NON STOP SERVICE, AND JUST ADDING THAT STOP,
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IF WE WERE TO LEAVE FROM PLANO AND THEN STOP AT THE LOVE FIELD TERMINAL, IT WOULD JUST ADD TOO MUCH TIME.NO PLANO CITIZENS WHO BOARD IN PLANO WILL GO NONSTOP TO AUSTIN.
>> SECONDLY, HOW FREQUENT ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT BEGINNING THE SERVICE?
>> WE WOULD DO A 6:00 AM DEPARTURE, A 10:00 AM DEPARTURE, A 2:00 PM DEPARTURE, AND A 6:00 PM DEPARTURE.
SO SPACED OUT THROUGH THE DAY.
I WAS THRILLED TO HAVE ACCESS FROM PLANO AND NOT HAVE TO MAKE THE COMMUTE OVER TO LOVE FIELD.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT I WAS AT A CONFERENCE IN AUSTIN, AND I WENT AHEAD AND UBERED OVER TO THE HOTEL WHERE I WAS GOING TO CATCH THE VON LANE, AND THE RESTAURANT WAS CLOSED.
DURING THE WHOLE TIME IN BETWEEN.
YOU MIGHT WANT TO MAKE THAT A REQUIREMENT THAT THE HOTELS DO HAVE THEIR RESTAURANTS OPEN.
BUT YES, LOVE HAVE ALWAYS HAD EXCELLENT SERVICE. IT'S SUPER COMFORTABLE.
I JUST HOPE YOU'LL KEEP ADDING NEW DESTINATIONS FROM PLANO.
MY HUSBAND TRAVELS TO HOUSTON QUITE A BIT AND SO WE'RE THRILLED TO HAVE YOU IN PLANO.
>> THANK YOU. WE WOULD LOVE THAT. STAR LINK IS COMING, SO THE INTERNET'S GOING TO GET BETTER.
>> THANK YOU. I HAVE TO SAY I LIKE VON LANE.
I WAS WITH DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM HOMER ON OUR TRIP TO AUSTIN, AND IT WAS FANTASTIC.
WE HAD OUR FORMER COUNCILMAN ANTHONY RECORDLLI, WHO KEPT US THOROUGHLY ENTERTAINED.
BUT LET ME TELL YOU, THE SERVICE WAS FANTASTIC.
I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU GUYS POSE HERE FOR PLANO.
I DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE TO LOVE FIELD TO GO TO AUSTIN, THAT'D BE GREAT.
AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO SAY THE SERVICE WAS FANTASTIC.
WE DID HAVE AN INCIDENT WHERE ON THE RETURN, THE BUS THAT WAS TAKING US BROKE DOWN.
BUT THE REPLACEMENT BUS CAME WITHIN, I THINK, 10 OR 15 MINUTES, IF I RECALL.
BUT YOU CAN'T COMPLAIN ABOUT THE SERVICE, AND THE RIDE WAS SMOOTH. THANK YOU.
>> I SUPPORT THIS 100%, AND DO YOU CONSIDER A HOUSTON ROUTE AS A LAWYER, I GO TO HOUSTON FOR CONFERENCES. THIS WORKS OUT.
MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION SINCE EVERYONE IS SUPPORTING THIS, BUT NO ONE AT THIS POINT HAS MADE A MOTION.
>> I KNOW EVERYBODY JUST HAS A LOT OF COMMENTS SO FAR.
>> I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO APPROVE.
WERE YOU FINISHED? MAYOR PRO TEM?
>> I JUST HAVE SOME CURIOSITY QUESTION.
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS.
>> WE HAVE ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD. GO AHEAD.
>> A LOT OF TIME. ANYWAY, I AM VERY SURPRISED THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING TO DO THIS ON A DAILY BASIS, RIGHT?
I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING 6:00 AM, 10:00 AM.
IS THERE REALLY THAT MUCH DEMAND RIGHT NOW IN PLANO?
>> BASICALLY, YOU WOULD HAVE A PRETTY MUCH A PACK RIDE WHEN YOU LEAVE HERE TO AUSTIN.
>> IT WON'T BE 100% FULL AT THE START.
THE 6:00 AM TRIPS AND THE 6:00 PM TRIPS USUALLY LAG A LITTLE BIT, BUT THOSE MIDDAY TRIPS DO VERY WELL.
THURSDAY, FRIDAY, SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS, WHEN THE LEISURE TRAVELERS COME, YOU SHOULD BOOK IN ADVANCE.
IS THAT RIGHT? WHAT ABOUT HOUSTON? HAVE YOU GUYS DONE SOME RESEARCH?
>> WE HAVE NOT STARTED LOOKING AT PLANO HOUSTON YET, BUT IT'S A NATURAL NEXT THING TO DO.
FOR AN EXAMPLE, WE STARTED WOODLANDS, DALLAS, AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO DO WOODLANDS AUSTIN
>> WERE MUCH MORE IMPORTANT THAN WE. THANK YOU.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER QUINTANILLA.
>> OH, YES. I'M PROBABLY THE ADD BALL HERE.
I FLY EVERYWHERE, AND IF POSSIBLE, I'LL TAKE A HELICOPTER SO [LAUGHTER].
BUT FOR LACK OF BETTER WORDS, WHERE'S THE ARRIVAL IN AUSTIN?
>> IT GOES TO THE ARBORETUM AREA OF AUSTIN.
IT'S THE HOTEL RIGHT THERE IN NORTH AUSTIN RIGHT OFF AT LOOP ONE.
>> GOT YOU. YEAH MINE WAS JUST MORE OF CURIOSITY.
>> WELL, THAT WAS INTERESTING. I'M SORRY.
THEY JUST STARTED COMMENTING AND I COULDN'T STOP THEM, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU I MEAN, YOU'RE HERE TO TELL US HOW GREAT EVERYTHING IS.
>> I'M MALORY MWES, I'M WITH WINSTEAD.
I'M A LAND USE ATTORNEY HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ZONING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>> THANK YOU. I HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 4. PLEASE VOTE.
>> ARE ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENTS GOING ON.
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>> DID YOU GET YOUR TIME? DID I NOT CLOSE? I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
YOU WANT TO DO THEM AGAIN? MOTION PASSES EIGHT TO ZERO.
THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS MEETINGS ADJOURN.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.