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[CALL TO ORDER]

[00:00:07]

I NOW DECLARED THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL IS RECONVENED IN OPEN SESSION THAT ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.

WE'LL BEGIN TONIGHT'S REGULAR MEETING WITH THE INVOCATION LED BY PASTOR LISA DE BUSK WITH CHASE OAKS CHURCH LEGACY CAMPUS AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND TEXAS PLEDGE LED BY TROOP FOUR 16 CHARTER ORGANIZATION, PRESTON MEADOW, LUTHERAN CHURCH.

WOULD YOU ALL PLEASE RISE? WOULD YOU BOW YOUR HEADS WITH ME PLEASE? DEAR GOD, THANK YOU FOR THESE MEN AND WOMEN WHO SERVE THE PEOPLE OF PLANO.

MAY YOUR HOLY SPIRIT RESIDE WITHIN EACH OF THEM AS THEY LISTEN TO AND ACT UPON ITEMS THAT ARE NEEDED TO IMPROVE THE LIFE HERE.

WE HUMBLY ASK THIS IN JESUS' NAME.

AMEN.

THANK YOU TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL HONOR, I HAVE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO BE TEXAS.

ONE SAY UNDER GOD, ONE AN INDIVISIBLE.

THANK YOU.

BE SEATED.

COME HERE GUYS.

COME HERE.

COME ON UP.

COME HERE ALL AT ONCE.

ALL RIGHT.

I WANT YOU.

I WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR DOING THAT.

THANK YOU.

AND HERE'S, HERE'S, THANK YOU.

OUR LITTLE THANK YOU.

SURE.

STAY WITH ME 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA TAKE A PICTURE.

COME HERE, COME ON.

THERE YOU GO.

THANK YOU.

WELCOME.

THANK YOU GUYS.

WELCOME.

MR. WELCOME.

MR. WELCOME.

OKAY.

ARE WE ALL GOOD? OH, NOPE.

OKAY.

YOU GUYS, Y'ALL ARE SO SHY.

OKAY, LET'S TURN AROUND.

FACE THAT WAY.

COME BACK HERE WITH ME.

COME HERE, COME HERE.

YOU GUYS ARE DOING GREAT.

NOW WE'RE GONNA TAKE A PICTURE.

YOU TALL GUYS, GET BACK HERE WITH ME.

ARE THEY TOO FAR OUT? COME ON, YOU, YOU GUYS COME BACK HERE.

YOU Y'ALL ARE TALL.

Y'ALL CAN SEE OVER.

COME RIGHT HERE.

SOMETHING PERFECT.

ALL RIGHT, TAKE THREE.

ONE.

THANK YOU GUYS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I'LL USE THIS.

OKAY,

[OATHS OF OFFICE]

NOW IT'S MY HONOR TO BE ABLE TO, UH, PRESENT THE OATH OF OFFICE FOR SO MANY OF OUR CITIZENS THAT ARE ON THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND DO SUCH AN AMAZING WORK FOR THE CITY OF PLANO.

BECAUSE WITHOUT YOU, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF DECISION MAKING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DO WITHOUT, UH, THE PROPER RESEARCH THAT YOU GUYS DO ON A DAILY BASIS.

SO WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, I'M GONNA ASK THE MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE TO COME UP WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME.

AND WE'LL, UH, I'LL GIVE YOU THE OATH OF OFFICE ALTOGETHER THAT ARE HERE.

SO IT, THE ANIMAL SHELTER ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

MICHAEL HIGGINS AND JOHN SULLIVAN,

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BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.

CONNOR BARON, KAREN ESA.

JOSE FIGUEROA, MANSER KARIMI, MICHAEL PERRICK, BUILDING STANDARDS COMMISSION.

JUSTIN ADCOCK, L COLE, JOHN GALLAGHER, MARK MALOOF, AND ROBERT THOMAS, CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION.

WILLIAM ALLEN RHODES COMMUNITY RELATIONS COMMISSION.

PRISCILLA AND BROWN.

RICHARD GRADY.

KEN VAL DI VAL, SUSAN SWAN SMITH, SAMITA , MARVEL CHIN WITH THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION.

MARVEL CHIN, DIANE GOBEL, SHERRY LEVI, JOHNNY SINGH AND SANDER WOLF WITH THE HERITAGE COMMISSION.

DEBBIE BARRIOS, SCOTT GOBEL, MINDY MENDEZ.

AND CORY REKER.

LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD.

LAURA ADCOCK.

CHRISTINA AMBERS, JODY INE.

ERIC LEWIS AND TOM MCC JR.

LOIS OF FOR PARKS AND RECREATION PLANNING BOARD.

LOIS MANSFIELD, STEVEN MCGILL, TAMMY PELICAN, MARK FERRIS AND KRISTEN REKER.

PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

MICHAEL BRONSKI, TOOLE BENNETT, RATLIFFE AND T LEE TONG, PLANO HOUSING AUTHORITY.

MONIKA COLEMAN.

MICHAEL KISSED.

JAMES TUCKER, RETIREMENT SECURITY PLAN COMMITTEE.

ABBY OWENS, KAREN RHODES, WHITLEY, KALE, SEARS SENIOR ADVISORY BOARD.

WILLIAM CASE, HEATHER JONES, YAMA CITA THOMPSON, AND FAR Y'ALL.

RK TAX INCREMENT FINANCING.

REINVESTMENT ZONES TWO AND THREE BOARDS.

ROBERT DEVRY, TERRY LUNA HARRIS, NATHAN HENDERSON, LIZ LANSING, ANGELIQUE MAY AND TAX INCREMENT FINANCING.

REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER FIVE, BOARD.

CHU A BUKARI.

DOUG BENDER.

JANINE KADINA, TED HONG, DEVIN HOUSE, AND DOUGLAS REESE.

OKAY, GREAT.

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

I AM, I'M GONNA COME AROUND , I'VE LOST MY, MY HANDHELD MIKE, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL WORK IT OUT.

SO IF YOU'LL RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT YOU WILL FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES OF THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS OF THE CITY OF PLANO, STATE OF TEXAS, AND WILL TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY, PRESERVE, PROTECT, AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES AND OF THIS STATE AND THE CHARTER AND ORDINANCES OF THIS CITY? AND YOU FURTHERMORE, SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT YOU HAVE NOT DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY PAID, OFFERED OR PROMISE TO PAY, CONTRIBUTED NOR PROMISE TO CONTRIBUTE ANY MONEY OR VALUABLE THING OR PROMISED ANY PUBLIC OFFICE OR EMPLOYMENT AS A REWARD TO SECURE YOUR APPOINTMENT.

SO HELP YOU GOD.

I DO.

I DO.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU.

FOR LET'S ALL GIVE A HAND.

THANK YOU.

THANK SO MUCH.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU ALL FOR, FOR BEING HERE, AND THANK YOU FOR SERVING ON OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

[00:10:45]

OKAY.

COMMENTS

[COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST]

OF PUBLIC INTEREST.

COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST.

THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING IS TO ALLOW UP TO THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER WITH 30 TOTAL MINUTES ON ITEMS OF INTEREST OR CONCERN AND NOT ON ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE CURRENT AGENDA.

THE COUNCIL MAY NOT DISCUSS THESE ITEMS, BUT MAY RESPOND WITH FACTUAL OR POLICY INFORMATION.

THE COUNCIL MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA.

AND OUR FIRST SPEAKER TONIGHT IS IVY CHONG.

GOOD EVENING AND DEAR HONORABLE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE CITY MANAGEMENT TEAM.

AND, UH, THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THIS UP TO THREE MINUTES SO THAT AS A CITY OF PLANO RESIDENT, I COULD RAISE THE ATTENTION REGARDING THE ISSUE AND CONCERN THAT I HAVE ENCOUNTERED ON DISCRIMINATION AND VIOLATION OF C DIO PLANO EQUAL RIGHT ORDINANCE TRIGGERED BY A ARBITRARY BUSINESS DECISION MADE BY THE POVERTY MANAGEMENT FOR THE APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT I LIVED IN.

IT SEEMS LIKE A SMALL THING ON PARKING.

HOWEVER, AS A CITY OF PLAINO RESIDENT, IT'LL BE DISAPPOINTED TO SEE DISCRIMINATION BEHAVIOR AND VIOLATION OF CITY ORDINANCE CAN BE ALLOWED WITHIN THE CITY OF PLAN, NO JURISDICTION.

AS A TAXPAYER, I'LL BE DISAPPOINTED TO SEE CIVIL RIGHTS PROTECTED BY THE US CONSTITUTION AND TEXAS CONSTITUTION CAN BE DAMAGED BY DISCRIMINATION WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY, WHICH I BELIEVE THIS ISSUE AND CONCERN CAN BE FOR BROADER AND MORE SERIOUS DISCUSSION.

SINCE CIVIL RIGHTS PROTECTED BY THE CONSTITUTION AND VIOLATION OF CITY ORATE ARE SERIOUS ISSUE AND CONCERN THAT DESERVE MORE THAN THIR THREE MINUTES, REGARDLESS THAT WAS TRIGGERED BY SMALL THING OR NOT.

AS A CITY OF PLANO RESIDENT, I HOPE WITH YOUR SUPPORT AND HELP, THIS ISSUE AND CONCERN CAN BE RECEIVED, RESOLVED SOON.

AND UNDER YOUR LEADERSHIP.

THE EXCELLENT OF CITY OF POINT OH WILL BE ELEVATED TO THE NEXT LEVEL.

AND ANY BEHAVIOR LIKE DISCRIMINATION AND VIOLATION OF ORDINANCE CAN BE STOPPED IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND THE RESOLUTION DECISION REGARDING THIS ISSUE AND CONCERN WILL BE MADE FOR BETTER COMMUNITY FOR OUR CURRENT RESIDENT HERE TODAY.

FUTURE RESIDENT AND GENERATION WITH WISDOM, COURAGE, AND GOOD FAITH.

AND, UH, IT TAKE A LOT OF PEOPLE AND EFFORT TO MAKE OUR COMMUNITY BETTER AND FOR THIS LEGACY.

AND, UH, IT'S SAD AND DISCOURAGING TO SEE SOME BAD APPLE AND, UH, WHICH WE CAN DO SOMETHING TO STOP THAT.

AND, UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, CONSTELLATION.

THANK YOU.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS SUNNA.

HJA? NO, SHE ON ZOOM.

SHE'S NOT ON ZOOM.

OH.

SO IF SHE'S NOT HERE, WELL IF SHE COMES, COMES BACK, UH, IN THE NEXT FEW MINUTES, WE'LL WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SPEAKER.

SO OUR NEXT SPEAKER AFTER THAT IS CRYSTAL CURRY.

HELLO, UH, I AM CRYSTAL CURRY AND, UM, I'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE, SO GOOD EVENING.

UM, MAYOR MUS AND OTHER DISTINGUISHED MEMBERS OF THE, UH, CITY COUNCIL, UM, IN THE INTEREST OF TIME AND IN THE ALLOTTED THREE MINUTES, UM, I HAVE PASSED OUT A DOCUMENT, WHICH, UM, AS INDICATED YOU SEE ON YOUR SCREEN IS, UH, PAGE ONE IS JUST A, A, A JUST A TITLE PAGE.

AND IT JUST IS AND GIVES IT MY NAME AND JUST THE CI THE OVERVIEW OF CITIZEN IMPACT.

EXCUSE ME.

I'M REALLY NERVOUS.

ALL RIGHT.

AND SO PAGE, PAGE TWO OF THIS, THIS DOCUMENT IS, IS JUST AN OVERVIEW, UM, OF MYSELF.

IT'S JUST A PICTURE.

IT GIVES SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION ABOUT WHO I AM AND, UM, UH, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT

[00:15:01]

ME.

BUT WHAT I WANNA HURRY AND DO IS TO FOCUS YOUR ATTENTION ON, UM, PAGE THREE OF THIS DOCUMENT, UM, WHICH IS A CITIZEN IMPACT SUMMARY.

AND IT JUST REALLY GOES INTO DETAIL ABOUT WHY I'M ASKING THE CITY COUNCIL TO BE INVOLVED AND TO HELP ME.

NOW THERE'S THREE AREAS OF MAIN CONCERN.

THE ONE IS IT'S MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL.

UM, MEANING THAT IT SPANS MULTIPLE GEOGRAPHICAL AREAS IN LOCATIONS ACROSS THE UNITED STATES, UM, INCLUDING THE GREAT STATE OF TEXAS.

AND NUMBER SECOND ITEM IS IT'S HIGHLY COMPLEX.

IT INVOLVES MY MEDICAL, UM, HISTORY AND ALSO HEALTH AND TECHNOLOGY AND THE PUBLIC AT LARGE.

AND THEN THE THIRD IS A GENERATIONAL IMPACT.

SO THOSE ARE THE THREE PRIMARY AREAS OF CONCERN AND THE REASON WHY I'M ENGAGING THE CITY COUNCIL TO HELP ME WITH IT.

ALL RIGHT.

AND THEN, UM, THE NEXT PAGE, IT GOES INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ABOUT THE MEDICAL BACKGROUND AND THE TECHNOLOGY.

IT TELLS YOU HOW WHEN I FIRST GOT UP HERE, I TOLD YOU THAT THERE WAS A WIRE, UM, BUT IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE SOPHISTICATED THAN THAT.

AND THIS PAGE GIVES YOU A LOT MORE DETAIL.

I ENCOURAGE YOU TO READ IT.

I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH IT IN THIS MEETING.

I JUST DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO DO THAT.

UM, THE NEXT PAGE, UM, IS THE BIOLOGICAL IMPACTS.

I WON'T GO THROUGH THAT EITHER.

IN THE, UM, INTEREST OF TIME AFTER THAT IT DESCRIBES THE PUBLIC IMPACT, WHAT THAT IS, WHO THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE, 15, WHAT HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN IT.

ALRIGHT.

AND THEN THE FINAL PAGE, THE, THE NEXT PAGE I WANT I TALK ABOUT IS JUST THE GOVERNMENT ASK AND WHY I AM REQUESTING THE GOVERNMENT TO INTERVENE AND HELP ME WITH THIS SOLUTION, WITH THIS, UM, ISSUE.

IT'S UNPRECEDENTED IN THE UNITED STATES.

AND, UM, IT'S A VIOLATION OF MY CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.

SO, UM, THE ASK IS ON THERE, YOU CAN REVIEW IT AS WELL AT YOUR TIME.

AND THEN FINALLY THERE'S MY A CONTACT INFORMATION, WHICH IS ON THE NEXT PAGE, MY EMAIL ADDRESS AND PHONE NUMBER IN CASE THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.

AND THEN, UM, FINALLY, I WANNA END IT WITH THE LAST PAGE.

PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO THIS PAGE 'CAUSE IT ANSWERS DIRECTLY HOW PLANO CAN HELP, CAN HELP BY ESCALATING THIS, THIS ISSUE FOR ME.

UM, THERE ARE OTHER AREAS OF, OF, OF HELP THAT YOU CAN GIVE THROUGH NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, PLANO LIBRARY SYSTEM, AND TEXAS WORKFORCE COMMISSION.

AND I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE WITH REGARDS TO IT.

BUT THIS DOCUMENT I PUT TOGETHER TO KIND OF GIVE YOU JUST AN OVERVIEW OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHY I AM, YOU KNOW, WHY I AM ASKING FOR THE ESCALATION PROCESS AND WHY I'M ENGAGING YOU.

YOU GUYS, THANK YOU MS. PERRY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

SINA IS ON ZOOM NOW.

DOES SHE COME BACK? MM-HMM .

HOLD ON.

BOB.

HI.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? OH, SHE, YES MA'AM.

CAN YOU TURN ON YOUR VIDEO? YES, THERE YOU GO.

YES.

SORRY.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED EARLIER.

GET BACK TO YOU.

SO I HAD A CONCERN ABOUT PLANO AOB BACK THAT IS SHUTTING DOWN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR.

SO I RAISED THIS REQUEST THROUGH EMAIL TO POSTPONE THE CLOSER OF PLANO, AEROBICS TILL MAY SO THAT KIDS CAN DO THEIR SESSION.

BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, WE WERE TOLD JUST DURING THE BEGINNING OF THIS WEEK THAT IT IS GOING TO BE SHUT DOWN ALL, YOU KNOW, ABRUPTLY.

AND WE HAVE NO OTHER PLACE TO TAKE OUR GIRLS BECAUSE ALL THE TEAMS ARE ALREADY FORMED.

SO THIS WAS A CONCERN FROM ALL THE PARENTS OF THE GYMNASTS AS WELL AS COACHES, THAT WE DID NOT GET ENOUGH TIME TO LOOK FOR OTHER OPTIONS.

AND KIDS ARE READY WITH THEIR, YOU KNOW, WITH THEIR COMPETITION SEASON.

EVERYBODY'S READY.

THEY PRACTICED A LOT.

SO PLEASE TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION THAT CLOSURE TIME SHOULD BE POSTPONED.

EITHER IT WOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE BEGINNING OF THE SESSION OR IT SHOULD BE DURING THE END OF THE SESSION.

AND IF IT IS BECAUSE OF LACK OF INSUFFICIENT FUNDS.

SO AS PARENTS, WE ARE ALL READY TO CONTRIBUTE FOR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER CAPACITY WE CAN.

SO WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS SESSION GOING ON UNTIL THE MONTH OF MAY.

IF THAT REQUEST CAN BE CONSIDERED, IT WOULD BE GREAT.

YEAH, THAT'S ALL.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS PA BOB PINNELL.

GOOD EVENING ONCE AGAIN, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL PEOPLE, AND THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY AND ESPECIALLY FOR THE SENIOR, UH, CITY, UH, COUNCIL, STAFF AND CITY STAFF.

FOR THE RECORD, I AM BOB PINNELL.

I'M A 45 YEAR RESIDENT OF PLANO, TEXAS, RESIDING AT 32 0 9 WINCHESTER DRIVE ON THE WEST SIDE OF PLANO.

I AM ALSO A MEMBER AND PAST MASTER OF

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PLANO LAWS NUMBER 7 68, AND A CURRENT DIRECTOR OF ITS NORTH TEXAS MASONIC HISTORICAL MUSEUM AND LIBRARY.

AND MY PURPOSE HERE TONIGHT IS TO THANK YOU MR. MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL AND THE CITY STAFF BECAUSE WE CELEBRATED LAST SATURDAY EVENING, 100 YEARS OCCUPANCY OF THE PLANO LODGE, KNOWN AS THE MOOREHOUSE SLASH PLANO LODGE, A HISTORIC BUILDING OVER 129 YEARS OLD.

AND WE HAVE BEEN IN THAT BUILDING FOR OVER 100 YEARS, ONLY SURPASSED BY OUR CON CONTRIBUTION, WE HOPE, TO THE CITY OF PLANO, THE SETTLEMENT AND THE COSMOPOLITAN CITY YOU ARE TODAY, WHICH REP, WHICH REPRESENTS 158 YEARS.

HAVING SAID THAT, THE MOREHOUSE PLANO LODGE IS IN FACT A DESIGNATED CITY OF PLANO, UH, LANDMARK AND HERITAGE RESOURCE.

AND IN 2017, IT WAS LISTED IN YOUR NATIONAL PARK SERVICE APPLICATION TO REGISTER THE PLANO DOWNTOWN HISTORIC DISTRICT.

IT WAS NOTED AS A HISTORIC AND CONTRIBUTING BUILDING.

LAST SATURDAY EVENING WAS A GREAT GALA EVENT.

AND WE WERE BLESSED, MR. MAYOR, WITH A CITY PROCLAMATION, YOUR KIND WORDS.

AND NOT ONLY ORALLY GIVEN, BUT IN WRITING.

AND WE WERE ALSO BLESSED BECAUSE WE HAD JOINING US IN FEAST AND FELLOWSHIP COUNCIL, LADY DOWNS AND COUNCILMAN HORN AND A FEW OTHER OF THE COMMISSIONERS WERE THERE ALSO.

IT WAS A JOYOUS EVENING.

THANK YOU FOR DEVOTING YOUR PRECIOUS TIME TO COME VISIT WITH US LAST SATURDAY EVENING.

AND THANK YOU ESPECIALLY FOR ALL THE SUPPORT, NOT ONLY THE CITY, BUT ITS COMMISSIONS AND THE CITY STAFF HAVE GIVEN US.

YOU'VE MADE BEING A PLANO MASON IN PLANO, TEXAS, A SIMPLE MASONIC POND THERE.

ENJOYABLE AND MORE IMPORTANT POSSIBLE.

HAVE A GREAT EVENING, AND WE HOPE TO SEE YOU AT THE HUNDRED AND 50TH.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU TOO.

THANK YOU, BOB.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS ALEXANDER STEIN.

WELL THEN OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS VETTE AHUJA.

THAT'S EVERYBODY.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

YEAH.

OKAY.

YEAH, THE CONSENT AGENDA.

THE CONSENT AGENDA WILL BE ACTED UPON IN ONE MOTION AND CONTAINS ITEMS WHICH ARE ROUTINE.

AND TYPICALLY NON-CONTROVERSIAL ITEMS MAY BE REMOVED FROM THIS AGENDA FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION BY A COUNCIL MEMBER, THE CITY MANAGER, OR ANY CITIZEN.

THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL ESTABLISH TIME LIMITS BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKER REQUESTS.

OKAY.

UM, WE HAVE, UM, DO HAVE A MOTION, SORRY, MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA EXCEPT FOR ITEM O.

THANK YOU.

SECOND.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

I HAVE A MOTION, A SECOND TO, UM, APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM O.

PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION PASSES EIGHT TO ZERO.

IF YOU'LL READ ITEM

[(o)  

To amend Section 12-73(d), Same — Specific zones, of Article IV, Speed, of Chapter 12, Motor Vehicles and Traffic, of the City of Plano Code of Ordinances, to establish school zones on Hedgcoxe Road and Preston Meadow Drive, within the city limits of the City of Plano; and providing a penalty clause, a repealer clause, a severability clause, a savings clause, a publication clause, and an effective date.

 

 

 

 

]

O LE, PLEASE.

ITEM O TO AMEND SECTION 12 DASH 70 3D, SAME SPECIFIC ZONES OF ARTICLE FOUR, SPEED OF CHAPTER 12, MOTOR VEHICLES AND TRAFFIC OF THE CITY OF PLANO.

CODE OF ORDINANCES TO ESTABLISH SCHOOL ZONES ON HEDGE CO ROAD AND PRESTON MEADOW.

DRIVE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OF THE CITY OF PLANO, AND PROVIDING A PENALTY CLAUSE, A REPEAL CLAUSE, A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, A SAVINGS CLAUSE, A PUBLICATION CLAUSE, AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

MY NAME IS BRIAN SHUKI, TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERING MANAGER, AND I'M HERE TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ON THIS ITEM.

OKAY.

COUNCIL MEMBER

[00:25:01]

CARE, MR. SUSKI.

THANKS FOR BEING HERE.

I'VE HAD A FEW RESIDENTS REACH OUT TO ME ABOUT THE, THE SCHOOL THERE AND THE SCHOOL ZONE IS SOMETHING THEY, THEY CERTAINLY HAVE ASKED FOR.

THERE'S ALSO BEEN CONCERN ABOUT PARENTS PARKING ON SIDE STREETS AND THEN WALKING OR CARRYING THEIR KIDS, SORT OF ANYWHERE WITHIN THE STREET ON PRESTON MEADOW.

AND WE ALSO HAVE SEEN PARENTS PARKING AT HERITAGE YARDS, WALKING THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOL THEN.

AND WHILE THAT'S ABSOLUTELY FINE, IT'S OFF PRESTON MEADOW, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THOSE GATES ARE LOCKED? WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE PA NUMBER OF CARS THAT ARE PARKING THERE? SO I THINK THE CONCERN IS GREAT, WE'RE ADDRESSING THE SPEED, BUT WHAT ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ARE WALKING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET AND, AND PERHAPS IMPEDING TRAFFIC? UH, ONE LAST THING.

UH, WE'VE NOTICED, I LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND I NOTICED THAT ON PRESTON MEADOW, THE CARS WILL BACK UP SO LONG, THEY ACTUALLY BACK UP ALL THE WAY TO, UH, MCDERMOTT.

AND SO IT'S DIFFICULT TO CROSS INTO THE SIDE STREETS, THE PERPENDICULAR STREETS.

ALRIGHT, SO LET ME, LET ME ADDRESS THE LAST PART, QUE FIRST, WHICH IS THE QUEUING.

UH, WELL HOLD ON ONE SECOND.

WE GOT, WE, WE CAN'T ADDRESS, UH, ADDING SOMETHING ADDITIONAL THAT'S NOT ON HERE.

WE CAN ADD, WE CAN ADD THAT TO THE FUTURE AGENDA ITEM, BUT, BUT WE, WE JUST NEED TO BE SPECIFIC ABOUT THIS REQUEST ON THE CONSENT.

SO I'M JUST, I'M JUST STAYING LEGAL.

SO THE ITEM RIGHT NOW IS JUST THE SCHOOL ZONE CREATION.

THAT'S, THAT'S, BUT WE CAN, BUT THANKS FOR CLARIFYING THAT.

WE CAN, WE CAN DEFINITELY, IF YOU WOULD LIKE ADD ADD ADDITIONAL SAFETY MEASURES, I'LL, I'LL FILL, LET'S GO AHEAD AND, AND GET THROUGH THIS AND THEN GO AHEAD AND, AND REQUEST THAT.

THANK YOU.

UH, YES.

SO SEVERAL, SEVERAL OF THE CITIZENS, UH, SEVERAL OF THE PARENTS, UH, REQUESTED SCHOOL ZONES.

THE SCHOOL ACTUALLY REQUESTED SCHOOL ZONE ALSO.

UH, WE ANALYZED IT, UH, WE EVALUATED, WE LOOKED AT THE TRAFFIC VOLUMES, UH, WE LOOKED AT THE SPEEDS THERE.

UH, WE LOOKED AT THE PEDESTRIAN VOLUMES.

AND YES, IT SCHOOL ZONES WERE WARRANTED ON PRESTON MEADOW, UH, FROM, UH, FROM HEDGECOCK NORTH.

UM, AND THEN ALSO ON, UH, UH, PRESTON, I'M SORRY, ON HEDGECOCK ON EITHER SIDE OF PRESTON MEADOW.

SO, UH, WE BASICALLY ARE BRINGING THAT ITEM TO THE COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.

UH, WE'VE ACTUALLY, UH, ASSUMING THAT THE COUNCIL DOES APPROVE, WE'VE GOT THE WORK ORDERS ALREADY PREPARED FOR, UH, PUBLIC WORKS TO INSTALL THE SCHOOL ZONES, UH, WHICH WILL REDUCE THE, REDUCE THE SPEEDS.

VERY GOOD.

THANKS FOR CLARIFYING THAT.

AND I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF THESE SCHOOL ZONES.

OKAY.

IS THAT A MOTION? YES.

I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT, THAT THE COUNCIL ACCEPT, UH, ITEM O AS WRITTEN MAYOR, I'LL SECOND THE MOTION.

OH, EXCUSE ME.

WE DO, UH, THANK YOU, SIR.

WE DO HAVE A SPEAKER.

UM, PAM COBB, I APOLOGIZE ON THIS ITEM.

YEAH, THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

UH, THANK YOU MR. MAYOR AND THANK YOU BOB KERR.

UM, YOU DIRECTED ME TO COME .

SO I DO LIVE ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE BASIS SCHOOL OF PLANO, AND I AM RETIRED.

AND SO MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY LOOKS LIKE EVERY SATURDAY TO ME, EXCEPT SINCE THE SCHOOL HAS OPENED.

I DREAD MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY BECAUSE I HAVE A CIRCULAR DRIVEWAY THAT LOOKS LIKE AN HEB PARKING LOT.

IT IS UNBELIEVABLE.

THEY GO DOWN MY STREET, MAKE A U-TURN.

IF SOMEBODY ELSE IS ALREADY USING MY DRIVEWAY TO GO THE OTHER DIRECTION, THEY PARK IN FRONT OF THE MAILBOXES.

SO AT DISMISSAL, THE MAIL CARRIER MUST GET OUT OF HER TRUCK AT EVERY MAILBOX FOR THREE OF THE STREETS.

THAT IS ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT A MAIL CARRIER NEEDS TO DO TO DELIVER THE MAIL BECAUSE THEY BLOCK THE MAILBOXES DURING THE HEAT OF THE SUMMER.

AT THE BEGINNING OF SCHOOL, THEY GET OUT OF THEIR CAR AND STAND IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ON OUR GRASS UNDER OUR TREES BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE BIT COOLER.

I, I JUST DON'T SEE HOW A SCHOOL OF 1300 STUDENTS SHOULD AFFECT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE THAT.

IF I WAS SELLING A HOUSE TODAY, I WOULD HATE TO BE IN THAT POSITION TO HAVE

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ANYONE DRIVE BY AND GO, OH, I DON'T THINK SO.

THAT DEVALUES OUR PROPERTY IN STONEHAVEN.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMEONE OUT THERE FIGURING OUT WHAT THE CUE LINE HAS TO BE.

I HAVE MADE SEVEN CONTACTS TO THE SCHOOL WITH NO RESPONSE.

THEY DON'T WANT TO HEAR ABOUT IT.

ALL SHE WANTS TO DO IS OUT THERE FLAGGING TRAFFIC.

YOU'VE GOT CITIZENS DIRECTING TRAFFIC.

AT ONE POINT, PARENTS WERE OUT THERE HOLDING SIGNS TO PARK AT HERITAGE PARK, WHO'S IN CONTROL HERE? NO ONE.

AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

EVERYONE'S JUST PARKING AT WILL AND DOING THE FOUR LANE DASH AND DOING U-TURNS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET AS WELL.

30 SECONDS.

IT'S JUST A HOT MESS MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.

WITH NO REGARD TO THE NEIGHBORS THAT THE CHURCH NEVER HAD THIS SITUATION YET.

SCHOOL, YES.

LEARNING CURVE, YES.

BUT NOW WE'RE IN TO SCHOOL.

WE'RE AT THE FIRST QUARTER AND WE'VE LEARNED A BEHAVIOR THAT ANYTHING GOES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TIME.

SO I HOPE FOR YOUR HELP.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UM, I HAVE A MOTION, A SECOND TO APPROVE ITEM O.

YOU HAVEN'T DONE THAT YET.

SECOND, I WAS, NO, I, YEAH.

COUNCIL MEMBER DOWNS A SECOND.

SO PLEASE VOTE OUT.

SO MOTION PASSES EIGHT TO ZERO.

AND COUNCIL MEMBER CARE IF, IF, IF YOU WANT TO, UH, MAYBE, UH, MAYBE MORE THAN LOOK YOU WERE SUGGESTING.

MAYBE WE NEED TO LOOK AT, LOOK AT THE CORE OF THE, THE ISSUE HERE.

COUNCILMAN CARE, I'LL GET WITH YOU AFTER THIS MEETING.

WE'LL GET A, AN IF, A FORM GOING, AND I'M SURE THAT THERE'S PLENTY TO FILL IN ON THAT.

I'M HAPPY TO FILL.

I'LL SEND IT.

UNDERSTOOD.

YEAH.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU ALL.

THANK YOU ALL.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON TO, UM, ITEMS

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Public Hearing and consideration of an Ordinance as requested in Zoning Case 2025-009 to amend the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance of the City, Ordinance No. 2015-5-2, as heretofore amended, rezoning 4.5 acres of land located on the south side of State Highway 121, 1,335 feet west of Coit Road in the City of Plano, Collin County, Texas, from Regional Employment to Regional Commercial; directing a change accordingly in the official zoning map of the City; and providing a penalty clause, a repealer clause, a savings clause, a severability clause, a publication clause, and an effective date. Petitioner: Coit Marketplace LP

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FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU.

THAT ONE .

PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS APPLICANTS ARE LIMITED TO 15 MINUTES.

PRESENTATION REMAINING SPEAKERS ARE LIMITED TO 30 TOTAL MINUTES OF TESTIMONY TIME WITH THREE MINUTES ASSIGNED PER SPEAKER.

THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY AMEND THESE TIMES AS DEEMED NECESSARY NON-PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL PERMIT PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA NOT POSTED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.

THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL ESTABLISH TIME LIMITS BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKER REQUESTS, LENGTH OF THE AGENDA, AND TO ENSURE MEETING EFFICIENCY AND MAY INCLUDE A CUMULATIVE TIME LIMIT.

SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER.

REQUESTS ARE RECEIVED UNTIL THE CUMULATIVE TIME IS EXHAUSTED.

AND ITEM NUMBER ONE IS PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE AS REQUESTED IN ZONING CASE 2025.

UH, DASH NINE TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY.

ORDINANCE NUMBER 2015 DASH FIVE DASH TWO AS HERETO FOR AMENDED REZONING.

4.5 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF STATE HIGHWAY 1 21 1,335 FEET WEST OF QUAT ROAD IN THE CITY OF PLANO, COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS.

FROM REGIONAL EMPLOYMENT TO REGIONAL COMMERCIAL, DIRECTING A CHANGE ACCORDINGLY IN THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP OF THE CITY AND PROVIDING A PENALTY CLAUSE, A REPEAL OR CLAUSE, A SAVINGS CLAUSE, A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, A PUBLICATION CLAUSE, AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

ALRIGHT, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.

I AM CHRISTINA DAY, THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING HERE TO PRESENT THIS SONY CASE TO YOU.

IT IS A REQUEST TO, UH, AMEND 4.5 ACRES ALONG 1 21, UM, FROM THE REGIONAL COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT TO, I'M SORRY, THE REGIONAL EMPLOYMENT ZONING DISTRICT TO ADD TO THE REGIONAL COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT.

UM, IT IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED YOU, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH AS PART OF A SHOPPING CENTER.

UM, AND IS THAT IS WHY THE REQUEST IS BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.

SO THERE IS A HISTORY FOR THIS PROPERTY.

UM, IT HAS BEEN ZONED AS WELL AS LAND ALONG THE ENTIRE 1 21 CORRIDOR.

UH, BACK IN 2,550 ACRES ALONG THIS ENTIRE CORRIDOR WAS REZONED WITH A PATTERN OF REGIONAL, COMMERCIAL AND REGIONAL EMPLOYMENT WITH NODES OF THE COMMERCIAL ZONING AT INTERSECTIONS,

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GENERALLY SPEAKING, UH, TO CREATE A CONSISTENT ZONING PATTERN IN THIS CORRIDOR.

UM, IN 2016, THE SHOPPING CENTER, UH, BEGAN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE BETWEEN THE LINE, BETWEEN THE GREEN AND THE RED ON THE SCREEN, UH, THERE WAS SORT OF A CURVE THAT DIDN'T FIT NEATLY WITH A DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.

SO A REQUEST WAS MADE TO REZONE AND A LINE BASED ON THE LOT PATTERN AT THE TIME, AND THE ZONING WAS APPROVED TO ADD 2.4 ACRES TO THE COMMERCIAL AREA, UH, TO ALIGN WITH THE LOTS.

THEN IN 2021, A REQUEST WAS BROUGHT FORWARD TO REZONE THE ADDITIONAL 4.5 ACRES THAT WERE IN THE REGIONAL EMPLOYMENT ZONING THAT WOULD ENCOMPASS THE ENTIRE, UH, CENTER.

AND THAT WAS DENIED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WAS NOT APPEALED TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

UM, AND SO THAT SAME REQUEST IS, HAS BEEN THROUGH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND IS, UM, THERE WAS NO RECOMMENDATION OUTTA THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

AND SO THAT MOVES FORWARD TO THE COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING.

SO THIS IS A CONCEPT PLAN THAT SHOWS THE PROPOSAL, UM, WITH DEVELOPMENT, BOTH WITH A LOT ALONG 1 21 AND THEN ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT, UM, NEXT TO THE KROGER BUILDING ON THE REAR OF THE SITE.

SO A COMPARISON OF THE DISTRICTS.

THESE DISTRICTS ARE VERY CLOSE IN NATURE.

THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ARE VERY SIMILAR.

THE PRIMARY DIFFERENCE IS THE USES.

SO THE USES ARE, UM, THERE ARE SOME USES THAT ARE ALLOWED IN RC BY RIDER OR BY SUP THAT ARE NOT, THAT ARE PROHIBITED IN REGIONAL EMPLOYMENT.

THOSE INCLUDE CAR WASH, UH, RETAIL AND SHOPPING CENTER USES.

RESTAURANT USES IN EXCESS OF 10% ARE PROHIBITED IN REGIONAL EMPLOYMENT, BUILDING MATERIAL SALES, INDOOR VEHICLE PART SALES, SMALL ENGINE REPAIR, VEHICLE REPAIR, VEHICLE LEASING AND RENTING.

THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF USES THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED WITH THIS ZONING CHANGE THAT ARE NOT ALLOWED TODAY.

SO CONFORMANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BECAUSE THE STANDARDS OF DEVELOPMENT ARE SIMILAR, IT MEETS THE PRIORITIES ON THE LAND USE MAP AND THE DASHBOARDS.

THE REAL ISSUE HERE IS A USE ISSUE WITH REGARD TO REDEVELOPMENT OF THE TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS, RETAIL SHOPPING CENTER POLICY, OUR LAND USE POLICIES REGARDING RETAIL ACTION BECAUSE THE CITY HAS A LONGSTANDING POLICY RELATED TO UNDERPERFORMING RETAIL CENTERS.

THE ADDITION OF RETAIL IS REALLY THE ISSUE AT HAND AND WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE BEING ASKED TO DECIDE.

SO THIS IS A SLIDE THAT JUST GIVES A LITTLE DETAIL ABOUT THESE POLICIES, UM, HOW WE WANNA CREATE COHESIVE DEVELOPMENTS, HOW WE WANT TO REINVEST, REVITALIZE AND REDEVELOP UNDERPERFORMING NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL CORNERS.

UM, INCENTIVIZE, REDEVELOPMENT AND REVITALIZATION OF UNDERPERFORMING RETAIL.

UM, SO CONSISTENT POLICY GUIDANCE, UH, AT THE POLICY LEVEL.

SO YOU CAN SEE THE, THERE WAS A KROGER ON THE EAST SIDE OF KUWAIT, UM, THAT HAS BEEN DEVELOPED INTO A MUCH LARGER, NICER KROGER, UH, ON THE, UH, WEST SIDE OF KUWAIT.

UM, SO A LARGE NEW SHOPPING CENTER.

AND SO YOU CAN SEE THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF DEVELOPMENT HERE NOW.

AND SO WE'RE REALLY JUST, THE QUESTION IS WHETHER YOU WANNA EXPAND AND ALLOW THOSE ADDITIONAL USES ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY THAT IS KIND OF IN THE LIGHT GRAY OR WHITE, UM, ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN IN THE AERIAL.

SO WITH REGARD TO FEEDBACK, THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER TO THE WEST IS IN SUPPORT.

WE HAVE ONE HOMEOWNER TO THE SOUTH THAT'S NEUTRAL AND THREE LETTERS OF OPPOSITION FROM HOMEOWNERS TO THE SOUTH.

THEN WITH OVERALL, UH, FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FROM THE COMMUNITY, WE HAVE ONE IN SUPPORT, ONE NEUTRAL, AND FIVE TOTAL IN OPPOSITION BECAUSE WE HAVE TWO ADDITIONAL RESPONSES FROM THE COMMUNITY.

SO AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THIS WAS A SPLIT VOTE AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

THERE WERE TWO MOTIONS MADE.

THEY BOTH FAILED.

UM, ONE IN SUPPORT, ONE IN OPPOSITION.

SO IT'S MOVED FORWARD TO YOU WITH NO RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE OF THAT

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KIND OF DEADLOCK VOTE AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

SO THAT'S CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT THIS REQUEST, AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND DOES HAVE A PRESENTATION.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

COUNCIL MEMBER HORNE? YES.

UH, THANK YOU CHRISTINE FOR A GREAT PRESENTATION.

I APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK THAT YOU DID WITH THIS.

I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON, UH, WHEN WE LOOK AT NOW MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE LAST PNZ MEETING, THIS DID NOT FAIL.

IT JUST DIDN'T, IT DIDN'T PASS.

IT WAS JUST NO RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL.

THAT IS CORRECT.

OKAY.

WITH THAT, DO WE JUST HAVE A SIMPLE MAJORITY TO APPROVE? IS THAT CORRECT? IT WOULD JUST BE A SIMPLE MAJORITY TO APPROVE.

OKAY.

SO THE SECOND PART WAS ON SLIDE 37, AND I JUST NEED A LITTLE, I NEED SOME CLARIFICATION HERE ON SLIDE 37, IF YOU CAN, WE TALK ABOUT REDEVELOPMENT AND REVITALIZATION, BUT REALLY THIS AREA IS GREENFIELD CONSTRUCTION.

I MEAN, I KNOW THAT IT'S BEEN GRADED 'CAUSE OF, UH, 1 21, BUT IS THAT STILL CONSIDERED REDEVELOPMENTS? UH, BECAUSE YOU PUT IT ALMOST IN THE SAME CATEGORY AS WHAT WE HAVE ON SOME OF OUR TIRED NEIGHBORHOOD CORNERS.

AND I KIND OF, FROM A CONCEPTUAL PERSPECTIVE, I, I DISAGREE WITH THAT.

I JUST THINK IT'S NEW DEVELOPMENT AND, UM, AND I DON'T SEE IT BEING REVITALIZATION BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'S NOT A TIRED CORNER THAT WE ARE WORKING SO HARD TO, TO IMPROVE.

I, I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT AND THE REASON WHY THE STAFF HAS LOOKED AT THIS.

UM, I THINK PRETTY CONSISTENTLY OVER THE YEARS, IT, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT ADDING RETAIL ZONING OUTSIDE OF A MIXED USE OR REDEVELOPMENT CONTEXT, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT GREENFIELD DEVELOPMENT, UM, OUR POLICIES HAVE BEEN CONSISTENTLY THAT WE'VE TRIED TO AVOID ADDING ADDITIONAL RETAIL DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY.

UM, GREENFIELD DEVELOPMENT SPECIFICALLY, BECAUSE WE KNOW THE MORE RETAIL THAT WE'VE ADDED, THE HARDER IT IS FOR US TO CONTINUE TO REDEVELOP.

AND THE MORE THAT WE HAVE TO INVEST IN REDEVELOPING OLDER CENTERS.

SO WE'VE GOT THE VACANT KROGER ACROSS THE STREET, WE'RE CONTINUING TO HAVE TO REINVEST PUBLIC FUNDS IN, UM, IN RETAIL CORNERS TODAY.

SO THE MORE THAT WE HAVE ON THE GROUND, WHETHER IT'S, IT'S NEW TODAY, BUT IT WON'T BE NEW TOMORROW.

SO WE'RE JUST ADDING TO THAT VOLUME AND THAT'S THE LONG TERM CONCERN.

I GET WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM, BUT JUST FROM A DEFINITION, IT'S NOT REDEVELOPMENT.

I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.

YES.

WITH, WITH THE FACT IS THE KROGER ACROSS THE STREET OR THE BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET, IT WAS PREVIOUSLY THE KROGER, YOU KNOW, THEY MOVED OVER TO THE NEW FACILITY, WHICH I VISITED THIS WEEKEND.

AND THE OPPORTUNITY, WELL THE, THE, THE, THE PRODUCTS THAT THEY'RE IN THERE, THERE'S CLOTHES IN THERE.

YES.

YOU CAN GO TO THAT KROGER AND BUY CLOTHES.

YOU COULDN'T DO THAT IN A REGULAR KROGER STORE.

SO THEY'RE MEETING A NEED FOR THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT'S A DEMAND THING.

AND SO WHO ARE WE TO KIND OF RESTRICT THAT DEMAND IF IT'S THERE? THEY DON'T BUILD MARKETS WHERE THERE'S NO DEMAND.

YES.

THE QUESTION I HAVE, WELL, BACK TO WHERE WE'RE AT HERE, THE PARCEL LINES THAT WE'RE SEEING HERE, THEY WERE DRAWN IN 2001 UNDER THE ZONING ATLAS, IS THAT CORRECT? WHEN WE LOOKED AT, UH, WHERE YOU HAD IT FROM RC TO RE THE ORIGINAL LINE HERE, THAT, THAT RED LINE THERE, THE EDGE OF THE RED IS WHAT WAS WHERE THE LINE EXISTED IN 2000? 2000.

WAS THAT PART OF THE, UH, ZONING ATLAS IS WHAT WE LOOKED, THAT WAS PART OF THE ZONING ATLAS.

AND SO WHEN THE SHOPPING CENTER CAME IN FOR ITS INITIAL DEVELOPMENT, THE LINE WAS CHANGED TO THE WHERE IT IS TODAY.

WAS THAT CUT OUT OFF OF 1 21 THAT TURN IN? WAS THAT PRESENT IN, IN 2001? DO WE KNOW? I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS PRESENT IN 2001.

IT WAS PRESENT IN 2016 WHEN THE SHOPPING CENTER DEVELOPED.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UH, MAYOR PROAM, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? I DO.

I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, UM, I I I DIDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU SHOW THE SLIDE ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN REGIONAL EMPLOYMENT AND REGIONAL, UH, COMMERCIAL, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S PRETTY SIMILAR MM-HMM .

UM, SO AT THIS POINT, THE, THE USE THAT THE CURRENT, UM, DEVELOPER IS, IS PLANNING ON, IT DOES NOT GO OVER BEYOND THE REGIONAL, UM, EMPLOYMENT IS AM I IT'S IT'S THE ABILITY TO ADD

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DIFFERENT USES TO THE SITE.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, THEY WANT MORE FLEXIBILITY, THEY WANT MORE FLEXIBILITY ON THE LAND USE SIDE.

WHY? I MEAN, AT THIS POINT THEY'RE, YOU AREN'T, AREN'T THEY JUST DEVELOPING IT INTO LIKE ADDITIONAL PARKING LOT? I, I THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE SAYING.

THERE'S TWO BUILDINGS.

THERE'S A BUILDING ON THE 1 21 FRONTAGE AND THEN A BUILDING TOWARDS, UH, ADJACENT TO THE KROGER.

AND SO THOSE BUILDINGS, I, I WOULD THINK THIS IS A GREAT QUESTION FOR THEM.

OKAY.

BUT THEY, YEAH, THAT'S FINE.

UM, IT GIVES THEM MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO BUILD THINGS LIKE RESTAURANTS, MORE RETAIL.

UM, RIGHT NOW THAT'S LIMITED TO 10% OF THE OVERALL USE IN THE REGIONAL EMPLOYMENT DISTRICT, WHICH OBVIOUSLY DOESN'T GIVE THEM MUCH OPPORTUNITY THERE.

SO, UM, AND THEN THE VEHICLE USES THE USES THAT I LI I LISTED EARLIER, WHICH I'D BE GLAD TO GO THROUGH AGAIN IF YOU'D LIKE TO HEAR THIS.

NO, THAT'S FINE.

I, I THINK THE, MY FOLLOW UP QUESTION IS THEN IS THE PNZ DIVIDED BECAUSE, UM, BECAUSE OF THE SPECIFIC QUESTION I JUST ASKED SASK, I THINK WHAT I HEARD FROM PNZ WAS JUST THE, THERE WERE SOME PEOPLE THAT THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS IMPORTANT, THAT IT WAS A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE AND THERE WERE SOME PEOPLE THAT FELT LIKE IT WAS NOT A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN LAND USE.

AND I THINK FROM WHAT I HEARD, THAT'S WHAT IT BOILED DOWN TO IS DO YOU THINK THIS 4.5 ACRES IS A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN LAND USE TO THE COMMUNITY OR NOT? I SEE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, DEPUTY MAYOR.

I REALLY APPRECIATED HEARING THE DISCUSSION THAT PNZ HAD AND MADE EXCELLENT CASES AND KIND OF DEBATED EVERY, EVERY DIRECTION OF IT.

AND IT REALLY HELPED ME KNOW WHERE, UM, WHERE WHERE I SAT ON ON IT.

BUT THEN I DO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.

SO THERE WERE FIVE IN OPPOSITION AND THERE'S THREE LETTERS OF OPPOSITION.

I ASSUME THAT'S ONLY BECAUSE THEY'RE WITHIN THAT CLO THAT CLOSE PROXIMITY AND THAT'S THE REASON WE HAVE LETTERS.

THAT'S RIGHT.

AND, UM, ONE SITE'S A CONCERN ABOUT SECURITY IS IT IS IS TYPICALLY COMMERCIAL, UH, REGIONAL COMMERCIAL LESS SAFE THAN REGIONAL EMPLOYMENT? I'M NOT SURE.

I THINK THERE, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHY THERE WOULD BE A SECURITY CONCERN.

THERE SHOULD BE, UM, SIMILAR PROTECTIONS.

YOU SEE THE REGIONAL EMPLOYMENT IS, IS ADJACENT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I WASN'T MISSING SOMETHING THERE.

UM, THERE WAS ONE NOTE ABOUT A, UM, IT WOULD, IT'D BE OKAY IF A PRIVACY WALL WAS INSTALLED AND IT, I DROVE BY THERE, IT LOOKED LIKE THERE WAS A PRIVACY WALL OR, I MEAN, THAT'S KIND OF HOW THAT THAT DIVISION WAS RIGHT.

ESTABLISHED IT.

THE, THERE WILL BE THE SAME STANDARDS OF ADJACENCY STANDARDS BETWEEN THE RC AND THE RE DISTRICT AND THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO THAT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE IF THE ZONING CHANGES.

OKAY.

AND THEN LASTLY, UM, UNDER SB EIGHT 40, IF THAT WERE TO BE COMMERCIAL, IT WOULD ALLOW FOR, UM, FOR, UH, MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING, BUT THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE IN THAT STRIP.

IT'S TOO SMALL TO ALLOW FOR SOMETHING, IS THAT CORRECT? IT UM, I MEAN IT IS PART OF THE SHOPPING CENTER.

I AM TRYING TO REMEMBER IF RE AND RC HAVE DIFFERENT STANDARDS UNDER, UM, I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK THAT UP TO SEE IF THOSE STANDARDS ARE DIFFERENT UNDER THE CHANGED ORDINANCE BECAUSE I DO FEEL LIKE THAT WOULD BE NOT AN APPROPRIATE PLACE TO, TO PUT TO FAMILY HOUSING THERE.

RIGHT.

SO IF THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO KNOW.

UM, CERTAINLY I, I THINK IT'S PART OF THE SHOPPING CENTER TODAY, UM, THE WAY IT'S DEVELOPING.

UM, BUT, SO, BUT I THINK UNDER EIGHT 40 YOU CAN DEVELOP IT AS HOUSING UNDER BOTH DIS IT'S JUST WHETHER IT'S, WHETHER YOU'RE THE CITY'S RESTRICTIONS, IT COULD UNDER EMPLOYMENT, REGIONAL EMPLOYMENT, IT, IT COULD BE UNDER REGIONAL EMPLOYMENT OR REGIONAL COMMERCIAL YOU COULD DO HOUSING.

OKAY.

WELL EITHER WAY, WELL, IN, IN THAT CASE I'LL WANNA HEAR THE, THE PRESENTATION, BUT I, I, I DON'T REALLY SEE ANY REASON TO, TO DENY THE REQUEST.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANKS, CHRISTINA.

I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I THINK WE HAVE, UH, THE APPLICANT.

YEAH, WE HAVE THE THREE APPLICANTS.

MICHAEL DOGGETT.

OKAY.

JACKIE WILPERT AND ROBERT, DO WHATEVER ORDER YOU WANT TO GO IN.

SO, UH, MICHAEL, UH, JACKIE AND ROBERT, HEY RAM MOMS COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE REALLY, UH, MY NAME'S ROBERT DOZE FROM 7,001 PRESTON ROAD IN DALLAS, TEXAS.

AND I'M THE OWNER OF UCD AND I'M NOT GONNA DO THE PRESENTATION.

UM, I'M GONNA LET THE STAFF DO THE HEAVY LIFTING ON THAT, BUT I WANTED TO JUST GO

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AHEAD AND JUST COME UP AND JUST TELL YOU GUYS HOW EXCITED WE ARE THAT WE GOT THIS SHOPPING CENTER DONE.

WE APPRECIATE Y'ALL, UH, CONSIDERING THIS ZONING CHANGE.

UM, WE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY IN 2016 THINKING THAT IT WAS GONNA MOVE FORWARD PRETTY QUICKLY, ACTUALLY HAD SITE PLANNING DONE AND, AND THEN, UH, THINGS GOT PUT ON HOLD BECAUSE OF, UH, AMAZON AND, AND SOME THINGS IN THE SHOPPING CENTER WORLD.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, ALL THE GROCERY STORES STOPPED FOR A WHILE.

ANYWAY, WE GOT IT OPEN THIS YEAR AND, UH, WE'VE BEEN GETTING SOME REALLY GREAT FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY, FROM PEOPLE IN MY, UH, YOU KNOW, CONTEMPORARIES THAT I WORK WITH IN THE, IN THE REAL ESTATE COMMUNITY, BEEN, HAVE BEEN VERY COMPLIMENTARY OF WHAT WE'VE DONE.

AND SO HOPEFULLY, UH, WE'VE DONE IT.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE PROVIDED A, A CENTER THAT, THAT EVERYBODY CAN BE PROUD OF.

UM, THE, UM, I I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT, UM, THERE WAS A LOT OF STAFF MEMBERS OVER THE LAST NINE OR 10 YEARS THAT HAVE HELPED US ALONG THE WAY, STARTING WITH, YOU KNOW, CHRISTINA DAY WAS INVOLVED IN THE VERY BEGINNING.

WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT ZONING.

I APPRECIATE HER, HER, UH, PRESENTATION AND I JUST WROTE DOWN SOME NAMES SO I WOULDN'T FORGET, BUT ERIC HILL, MIKE BELL, UH, DONALD SUPULVEDA, SADA AND PATTY HOFFER WERE VERY HELPFUL WITH US, AND ESPECIALLY TOWARDS THE END IN GETTING OUR, OUR CO WE HAD SOME KIND OF, SOME MIX UP THERE AT THE END.

THEY WERE ALWAYS HELPFUL.

AND ALSO WITH SIGNAGE, UM, DANNY NELLI TO GET OUR, UM, OUR FINAL, UH, ENGINEERING FINAL.

AND THEN I JUST WANT TO SAY, ESPECIALLY TO JACK CARR, I MEAN, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES I HAD TO CALL MR. CARR WITH A PROBLEM THAT, AND HE WOULD JUST SEND AN EMAIL OR, OR JUST SEND IT.

IT WAS JUST LIKE, START GETTING, YOU KNOW, WORKED OUT.

AND SO ANYWAY, I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S HELP WITH IT AND, AND, UH, HOPEFULLY YOU'LL ALL WILL ENJOY THE CENTER.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

HELLO, MY NAME IS JACKIE WALPERT, 7 0 0 1 PRESTON ROAD, DALLAS.

SO I'M JUST GONNA TALK THROUGH SOME OF THE HISTORY, UM, AND AGAIN, AT THE END, UM, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

SO I'M ACTUALLY GONNA START HERE.

SO BACK IN 2016, UM, WE, KROGER CAME TO US AND THEY SAID THAT THEY WANT TO HAVE A BIGGER STORE TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL OFFERINGS FOR THE COMMUNITY.

AND THEY SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

AND SO WE MOVED FORWARD WITH THEM AND, UM, PLANNED THE DEVELOPMENT.

AND AT THE TIME, WHAT IS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN WAS THE ZONING, EXCEPT THE AREA IN GREEN WAS PART OF REGIONAL EMPLOYMENT, NOT REGIONAL COMMERCIAL.

UM, SO ONE THING ON THIS AREA, SO THIS AREA WAS TAKEN IN 2016 AND THERE IS A CURB CUT, A T STOCK CURB CUT ONTO THE SERVICE ROAD AT 1 21 THAT CIRCLED IN RED AND THAT CURB CUT EXISTED AT THE TIME.

UM, THERE'S ANOTHER ONE OVER BY QUICKTRIP AND THAT ONE EXISTED AS WELL.

BUT, UM, AS FAR AS JUST, YOU KNOW, EASE OF SHOPPING AND MAKING SURE THAT YOU HAVE, UM, GREAT ACCESS FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA SHOP YOUR CENTER, WE COULDN'T JUST RELY ON ONE CURB CUT OVER BY QUICKTRIP TO SERVICE THE SHOPPING CENTER.

AND SINCE THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE LOCATED WHERE IT'S SHOWN HERE ALONG 1 21, WE, UM, US AND KROGER SAID THAT WE NEEDED TO BUY PROPERTY UP TO THAT CURB CUT TO ENSURE THAT WE WOULD HAVE THAT ACCESS.

BECAUSE AT THE TIME, AGAIN, ALL THESE, THESE CURB CUTS ARE UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF TXDOT.

AND AT THE TIME, THERE WAS NO GUARANTEE THAT WE WERE GONNA GET ANOTHER CURB CUT BETWEEN THE TWO THAT EXISTED.

SO IF THE CURB CUT WAS A LITTLE TO THE EAST, MAYBE WE WOULD'VE ONLY BOUGHT A LITTLE BIT TO THE EAST AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE BOUGHT ALL THE WAY TO THE WEST.

BUT, UH, THAT JUST WASN'T THE CASE.

UM, SO WE WORKED WITH THE STAFF AND THE REASON FOR THE JOG IN THE PROPERTY LINE IS BECAUSE THAT IS, THAT ALIGNS WITH THE KROGER PROPERTY LINE BECAUSE IF WE DIDN'T REZONE THE AREA IN GREEN, THEN KROGER'S PROPERTY WOULD'VE HAD SPLIT ZONING, WHICH WHAT THEY WEREN'T OKAY WITH.

AND I THINK THE STAFF AGREED THAT IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE FOR SPLIT ZONING ON ONE PROPERTY LINE UNDER ONE PROPERTY LINE.

SO, UM, WE AGREED TO YOUR STAFF AND, UM, EVERYONE AGREED TO GO FORWARD WITH THE ZONING JUST FOR THAT PORTION.

UM, IN 2021, OBVIOUSLY LIKE ROBERT HAD NOTED, EVERYTHING GOT PUT ON HOLD FOR A WHILE.

IN 2021, KROGER SAID, WE'RE READY TO GO TO KICK OFF THIS PROJECT AGAIN.

AND WE REVISITED THE REZONING, BUT WE WEREN'T UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT THE TIME.

WE DIDN'T HAVE A FULL PATH OF WHAT WE WERE GONNA DO.

AND IT DID GET DENIED AT P AND Z AND WE DECIDED THAT WE WEREN'T GONNA PUSH IT FORWARD TO COUNCIL AND WE WOULD JUST COME BACK AT A LATER DATE WHEN WE KNEW WHAT WE WERE GONNA HAVE BUILT THERE.

SO FAST FORWARD TO TODAY, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.

UM, SO GOING BACK TO THE PREVIOUS SLIDE.

SO THE KROGER STORE IS OPEN AND WE HAVE A RETAIL BUILDING THAT'S THE LL SHAPED RETAIL JUST TO THE EAST OF KROGER.

THAT RETAIL BUILDING IS A HUNDRED PERCENT

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LEASED.

THERE'S NOT A SPACE AVAILABLE IN IT.

UM, SOME OF THE TENANTS HAVEN'T OPENED YET, BUT THEY'RE EITHER BUILDING OUT OR WE JUST SIGNED THE LEASE, UM, WITHIN THE PAST MONTH OR SO.

SO THEY'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH THEIR PLANS WITH THE CITY.

SOUTH OF THAT RETAIL BUILDING IS ANOTHER RETAIL BUILDING WHERE IT SAYS OUTLAW 10.

AGAIN, THAT RETAIL BUILDING IS A HUNDRED PERCENT LEASED.

WE HAVE NO SPACE.

UM, WE MOVE FORWARD ON THE RETAIL BUILDING THAT IS TO THE WEST OF KROGER AND WE BUILT THAT WITH THE HOPES THAT WE WOULD GET REGIONAL EMPLOYMENT TENANTS THAT WOULD WANNA GO IN THERE.

AND UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S JUST NOT THE CASE.

WE HAVE A BUILDING THAT'S ALMOST COMPLETELY READY TO BE DELIVERED TO TENANTS AND WE DON'T HAVE A LEASE SIGNED YET BECAUSE THE TENANTS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN, IN THIS BUILDING AND THAT WANNA BE IN THE CENTER FALL UNDER THE REGIONAL COMMERCIAL ZONING, NOT UNDER THE REGIONAL EMPLOYMENT ZONING.

AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE THEY'RE MORE RETAIL RESTAURANT USE TENANTS, NOT EMPLOYMENT BASED TENANTS.

SO AGAIN, THE RETAIL, THE BUILDING TO THE WEST OF KROGER THAT'S IN THE BLUE AREA UNDER REGIONAL EMPLOYMENT, THAT BUILDING IS BUILT, THE PARKING LOT IN FRONT OF THAT IS BUILT.

AND THEN WE HAVE THE PAD, WHICH IS TO THE WEST OF THE MCDONALD'S.

AND THAT PAD HAS TO BE 'CAUSE OF THE PLANO REQUIREMENTS FOR PADS THAT YOU CAN, YOU HAVE TO, YOU CAN ONLY HAVE ONE PAD OR ONE BUILDING ON A PAD UNDER 5,000 SQUARE FEET FOR EVERY FIVE ACRES.

SO ALL OF OUR, ALL THE TENANTS THAT YOU SEE ALONG 1 21 AND THE CHIPOTLE ON KOTT ROAD, THOSE ALL FILL UP THOSE FIVE THAT WERE ALLOWED.

SO WHATEVER GOES ON THAT, THAT, UM, EXCESS PAD THAT WE HAVE IN THE BLUE ALONG THE FRONTAGE ROAD, THAT HAS TO BE GREATER THAN 5,000 SQUARE FEET.

SO OUR PLAN IS TO ALSO BUILD A RETAIL BUILDING THERE.

IT'S GONNA BE PROBABLY 6,000 SQUARE FEET AND IT'S GONNA BE A TWO TENANT BUILDING.

WE HAVE A BANK THAT'S INTERESTED IN TAKING JUST OVER HALF OF THAT.

AND A BANK ACTUALLY IS ALLOWED IN REGIONAL EMPLOYMENT, BUT THE PEOPLE THAT WANNA BE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BUILDING ALL FALL UNDER REGIONAL COMMERCIAL 'CAUSE THEY'RE MORE RETAIL RESTAURANT TYPE USES.

SO THAT'S THE PLAN FOR THE PROPERTY.

AND AGAIN, I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

DO YOU, UH, DO YOU WANT OH, NO, UH, NO, I THINK HE'S DONE.

ARE WE DONE? YEAH.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, COUNCIL MEMBER, LEVON, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? I DO.

UM, THE PROPERTY, UM, THAT, UH, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THAT WOULD BE JUST TO THE WEST OF THE MCDONALD'S MM-HMM .

UM, THAT'S IN THE REGIONAL EMPLOYMENT AREA.

UH, AND THE REASON WE HAVE A REGIONAL EMPLOYMENT ZONING IS TO ENCOURAGE, UH, UH, OFFICES AND SUCH, UH, THAT WOULD IN FACT, UH, LEAD TO, UH, MORE EMPLOYMENT HERE IN PLANO.

COULD YOU SEE BUILDING A MULTI-STORY OFFICE BUILDING THAT WOULD BE ATTRACTIVE TO, UH, AN OFFICE TENANT OF SOME SORT AS OPPOSED TO, UH, YOU KNOW, THE BANK, WHICH WOULD BE A, POSSIBLY A SINGLE STORY TYPE SITUATION.

UM, IT'S ONLY LIKE, I THINK A LITTLE LESS THAN TWO ACRES.

SO OUR INTENT WOULD JUST TO KEEP IT LIKE SHOPPING CENTER TYPE USES.

I DON'T THINK A MULTI-STORY OFFICE BUILDING IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD, UM, PREFER TO DO ON THAT, ON THAT PROPERTY.

IT WOULD ALSO BLOCK VISIBILITY TO THE TENANTS, ESPECIALLY IN THE RETAIL BUILDING THAT WE'RE, UM, ALMOST DONE BUILDING TO THE WEST OF KROGER.

AND WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO BE SEEN AT LEAST FROM THE SERVICE ROAD AS WELL.

AND IF, AND IF YOU WERE TO BUILD AN OFFICE BUILDING THERE, UM, YOU HAVE, WOULD YOU HAVE, UH, A DIFFERENT, UH, REQUIREMENT IN TERMS OF PARKING AND, AND SUCH? UH, YEAH.

YEAH.

I DON'T THINK WE COULD ACCOMMODATE THE PARKING, UM, THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED JUST ON THAT LOT.

OKAY.

SO, SO BASICALLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THE DESIRED AND PERHAPS APPROPRIATE USE, UH, FOR THAT LOT IS IN FACT A SINGLE STORY? UH MM-HMM .

POSSIBLY A BANK, POSSIBLY, UH, UH, A RESTAURANT THAT, UH, WOULDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE A DRIVE THROUGH OR, OR SUCH, UH, IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA BECAUSE OF THE, THE SIZE OF THE, THE AVAILABLE LOT? YEAH, I MEAN, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT RESTAURANT USE SPECIFICALLY.

I MEAN, SOME OF THEM LIKE TO HAVE LIKE PICKUP WINDOWS AND STUFF, BUT I, I WOULD SAY THAT IT WOULD BE A RETAIL BUILDING WITH AT LEAST TWO TENANTS OF THOSE USES.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM .

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY, THANKS.

APPRECIATE IT.

ANY, ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? ALL RIGHT, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, FIND THE COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL.

UH, WELL I,

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I'LL, I'LL, I'LL GO NEXT.

COUNCIL MEMBER HORN.

THANK YOU.

UM, WE HAVE SEEN THIS, UH, KIND OF MESSY SPLIT ZONING DILEMMA BEFORE THERE WAS A CASE JUST TO, TO QUICKLY EDUCATE OUR NEWER COUNCIL MEMBERS BACK IN ZONING CASE 20 24 0 0 5, WHERE, UH, THE ZONING PARCEL ACTUALLY SPLIT A BUILDING.

OKAY.

AND THE PETITIONER CAME TO US BACK WHEN WE WERE BACK AT THE DAVIS LIBRARY FUN TIMES THEN, UM, THAT, UM, HE WAS JUST TRYING TO CHANGE IT FROM REGIONAL EMPLOYMENT TO REGIONAL, UH, COMMERCIAL.

UM, IT WAS DURING THOSE PRESENTATIONS THAT STAFF TOLD US THAT THE, THE RCRE BOUNDARY LINES WERE NOT A SIGNIFICANT CONSIDERATION WHEN THE LINES WERE DRAWN INTO 2001 ATLAS, THE ZONING ATLAS, BUT IT WAS REALLY, THE MORE CONCERN WAS THE RESIDENTIAL ASPECT BEHIND THE KROGER'S BEHIND THAT AREA.

UM, ALSO DURING THAT 20, UH, 2024 ZONING MEETING, THE STAFFERS PRESENTED SLIDE NUMBER 32 THAT SHOWED THE CURRENT SUBJECT AREA, THIS CASE HERE, HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE AS THIS IS THE QUOTE AS IT WAS IN THE, THE HIGHLIGHTED AREA, 26 ACRES OF RETAIL SHOPPING CENTER UNDER CONSTRUCTION BY, RIGHT.

IT WAS IN THAT SHADED AREA THAT THE SHADED AREA WENT TO THE TURNIN FROM 1 21.

IT INCLUDED THIS QUESTION, THIS QUESTION AREA HERE.

UM, THIS PARTICULAR CASE, IT WAS SPLIT THREE THREE LEADING TO RE UH, THE, I'M, I'M GOING BACK.

NO, I, I WAS WORRIED YOUR MIC WASN'T ON, BUT IT IS ON, IT'S, IT'S ON.

OKAY.

AND SOME DURING THE PP AND Z MEETINGS, IT WAS, THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT RETAIL CREEP IS WHAT THEY WERE, THAT WAS A TERM THAT WAS USED SEVERAL TIMES AND THAT PLANO HAD EXCESS RETAIL.

I WOULD AGREE THAT WE HAVE SOME AREAS IN TOWN THAT IS, IS EXCESS IN RETIRED CORNERS, BUT DEMAND SHOWS THAT THIS CENTER HERE, THAT THERE WAS THE PARKING LOT'S FULL AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, OUR FRIENDS TO THE NORTH ARE COMING IN AND SPENDING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE SOUTH IS SPENDING.

SO I, I THINK IT'S ALMOST A MOOT POINT.

DEMAND WILL DRIVE THE RETAIL GROWTH.

THE FOUR ACRES ITSELF IS REALLY TOO SMALL TO TURN INTO A REGIONAL EMPLOYMENT UNLESS IT'S, UH, SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY UNIQUE THERE.

AND IT'S, IN MY OPINION THAT THE SOUTH TURN ON FROM THE SALMON RIVER AND TOLLWAY ALONG THE WESTERN PORTION OF SUBJECT PROPERTY LEADS TO A NATURAL BOUNDARY BETWEEN RC AND RE.

IT JUST DOES.

AND, UM, SO IT'S MY RECOMMENDATION THAT WE WILL TURN, WE'LL TURN THAT INTO A BOUNDARY, LET THAT BE THE, THE, THE BOUNDARY BETWEEN RC AND RE AND ALLOW THE PETITIONER TO USE THE FOUR ACRES FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

DEPUTY MAYOR PROTO, WAS THAT A MOTION? OH, WAS IT A MOTION I DID NOT MAKE.

OH, I'LL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

I AGREE WITH, UM, WITH WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER HORN SAID, AND LIKE I SAID, I WAS, UM, WE HAVE AN EXCELLENT PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND THEY HAD GREAT DISCUSSION.

UM, WHEN I WENT BACK AND WATCHED THAT AND WHILE THEIR DECISION WAS SPLIT, I FELT THAT THOSE THAT VOTED IN FAVOR, THE, THE ARGUMENTS THAT THEY MADE, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT MAKES SENSE.

SO I'M, I'M IN FAVOR AND I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

HOLD ON.

I GOT, I, I GOT YOU.

OKAY.

AND I SECOND, I SECOND THE MOTION PLEASE.

OKAY.

UM, IT ALL YOU OKAY, RICK, ARE YOU OKAY? I'M OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND TO APPROVE.

ITEM NUMBER ONE, PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION PASSES SEVEN TO ONE.

OKAY.

NEXT ITEM ITEM

[(2)  

Public Hearing and consideration of an Ordinance as requested in Zoning Case 2025-011 to amend the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance of the City, Ordinance No. 2015-5-2, as heretofore amended, to amend the Urban Mixed Use-2 district on 86.2 acres located on the west side of Coit Road, 970 feet north of Mapleshade Lane and within the 190 Tollway/Plano Parkway and Expressway Corridor Overlay Districts, to add veterinary clinic as a permitted use on Blocks A and B of the Development Plan; and providing a penalty clause, a repealer clause, a savings clause, a severability clause, a publication clause, and an effective date. Petitioner: Crow-Billingsley LTD

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TWO.

ITEM NUMBER TWO, PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE AS REQUESTED IN ZONING CASE 2025 DASH 11 TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY ORDINANCE NUMBER 2015 DASH FIVE DASH TWO AS HERE TO, FOR AMENDED TO AMEND THE URBAN MIXED USE TWO DISTRICT ON 86.2 ACRES LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF QUT ROAD 970 FEET NORTH OF MAPLE SHADE LANE.

AND WITHIN THE ONE 90 TOLLWAY PLANO PARKWAY AND EXPRESSWAY CORRIDOR OVERLAY DISTRICTS TO ADD VETERINARY CLINIC AS A PERMITTED USE ON BLOCKS A AND B OF THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND PROVIDING A PENALTY CLAUSE OR REPEAL OR CLAUSE, A SAVINGS CLAUSE,

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A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, A PUBLICATION CLAUSE, AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

ALL RIGHT, SONY CASE 11 IS RELATED TO THE URBAN MIXED USE TWO ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH IS AGAIN LOCATED ALSO ON KUWAIT.

WE HAVE A THEME HERE THIS EVENING ON THE WEST SIDE OF KUWAIT, UH, NORTH OF MAPLE SHADE LANE, THOUGH ON THE, IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF TOWN.

SO, UM, THIS IS A REQUEST JUST TO ADD A SINGLE USE TO THIS ZONING DISTRICT.

THE RETAIL PORTION OF THIS ZONING DISTRICT IS ALL ALONG COIT ROAD AND BLOCK A AND BLOCK B.

THAT'S WHY THESE AREAS ARE SINGLED OUT.

UM, AND SO THEY, THE OWNER DOES HAVE A REQUEST FROM A TENANT.

AND SO WE LOOKED AT THIS AND FOUND THAT IT IS CONSISTENT WITH OTHER ZONING DISTRICTS TO ALLOW A VETERINARY CLINIC, UM, WITHIN THESE AREAS.

AND SO, UM, BLOCK A IS CURRENTLY COMPLETE, BUT BLOCK B IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

AND SO THIS WOULD ALLOW THEM TO LEASE THAT SPACE, UH, TO A VETERINARY CLINIC.

SO AGAIN, WE FIND IT'S, IT'S APPROPRIATE IN RETAIL SET SETTINGS.

UM, AGAIN, VETERINARY CLINIC IS PERMITTED IN CENTRAL BUSINESS, ONE LIKE LEGACY BUSINESS PARKS KIND OF CORE MIXED USE AREA AND DOWNTOWN PLANO.

UM, SO OUTDOOR KENNELS WOULD REMAIN PROHIBITED, WHICH WE THINK WOULD BE A NUISANCE.

THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD CAUSE A PROBLEM FOR A MIXED USE SETTING.

SO AGAIN, A SIMPLE CHANGE JUST TO ALLOW THE VETERINARY CLINIC AS IT ALLOWED USE IN THESE TWO AREAS ON THE PLAN, IT WOULD MEET THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

WE HAVE ONE LETTER, UH, FROM SUPPORT FROM AN ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER, AND OVERALL THREE LETTERS OF SUPPORT, NO LETTERS, NEUTRAL OR OPPOSITION FROM THE COMMUNITY.

RECOMMENDED SIX TO ZERO BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU, CHRISTINA.

ANY, UH, QUESTIONS FOR CHRISTINA? THANK YOU.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

DO YOU HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? ALL RIGHT.

I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

CONFINE THE COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL.

MR. MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE, UH, ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT AS WRITTEN.

I'LL SECOND THAT.

OKAY.

I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND TO APPROVE.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO, PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION PASSES EIGHT TO ZERO.

THANK YOU.

NEXT ITEM,

[(3)  Public Hearing and consideration of an Ordinance to amend Section 21-2. Same – Charges, of Article I, In General, of Chapter 21, Utilities, of the Code of Ordinances of the City of Plano to modify the fees for residential and non-residential customers of Municipal Drainage Utility System; providing a severability clause, a repealer clause, a savings clause, a publication clause, and an effective date.]

ITEM NUMBER THREE, PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND SECTION 21 DASH TWO.

SAME CHARGES OF ARTICLE ONE IN GENERAL OF CHAPTER 21.

UTILITIES OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF PLANO TO MODIFY THE FEES FOR RESIDENTIAL AND NON-RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS OF MUNICIPAL DRAINAGE UTILITY SYSTEM, PROVIDING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, A REPEAL CLAUSE, A SAVINGS CLAUSE, A PUBLICATION CLAUSE, AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

GOOD EVENING.

KAREN RHODES WHITLEY, BUDGET DIRECTOR.

UH, THIS IS THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE MUNICIPAL DRAINAGE RATES.

WE HAD DISCUSSION REGARDING THE RATE INCREASES OVER THE SUMMER.

UH, THEY WERE ADOPTED DURING THE, UM, UH, RECOMMENDED BUDGET IN THE ADOPTION OF THE BUDGET.

THE REVENUES ALREADY IN THERE.

WE HAD TO GO IN THE PAPER, WE HAD TO PRODUCE THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE THREE TIMES IN A ROW, AND WE HAVE DONE THAT.

SO TONIGHT IS THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING.

WE WILL HAVE A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING ON OCTOBER 27TH, AND THEN WE'LL BRING BEFORE YOU PASSAGE OF THE ACTUAL RATES THEY ARE TO GO INTO EFFECT ON NOVEMBER 1ST.

UH, THE RESIDENTIAL IS TO GO UP A DOLLAR 50 A MONTH.

AND THEN FOR NON-RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL, IT'S A 0.0 TO 8 CENT INCREASE GOING FROM 0.115 TO 0.143 PER 100 SQUARE FEET OF IMPERVIOUS AREA.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR KAREN? ALL RIGHT.

I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

YOU HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, FIND THE COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL.

COUNCIL MEMBER HORN.

MR. MAYOR, I MAKE A, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER

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THREE.

THIS IS ONLY A PUBLIC HEARING.

OH, PUBLIC HEARING.

WE DON'T HAVE TO APPROVE IT.

I'LL BE BACK OCTOBER 27TH.

GOT IT.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

LET'S

[(4)  Consideration of a Resolution to find that Oncor Electric Delivery Company LLC’s application to change rates within the City should be denied; finding that the City’s reasonable rate case expenses shall be reimbursed by the Company; finding that the meeting at which this Resolution is passed is open to the public as required by law; requiring notice of this Resolution to the Company and legal counsel for the Steering Committee of Cities Served by Oncor; and providing an effective date.]

MOVE TO ITEM FOUR.

ITEM NUMBER FOUR, CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION TO FIND THAT ENCORE ELECTRIC DELIVERY COMPANY.

LLCS APPLICATION TO CHANGE RATES WITHIN THE CITY SHOULD BE DENIED FINDING THAT THE CITY'S REASONABLE RATE CASE EXPENSES SHALL BE REIMBURSED BY THE COMPANY, FINDING THAT THE MEETING AT WHICH THIS RESOLUTION IS PASSED IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AS REQUIRED BY LAW.

REQUIRING NOTICE OF THIS RESOLUTION TO THE COMPANY AND LEGAL COUNSEL FOR THE STEERING COMMITTEE OF CITY SERVED BY ENCORE AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, ANDREW FORTUNE, POLICY AND GOVERNMENT RELATIONS.

UM, ENCORE IS REQUESTING AN $830 MILLION INCREASE.

UM, THIS REPRESENTS A 13% INCREASE WITHIN THAT, ACTUALLY A 51% INCREASE TO, UH, THE MAINTENANCE AND, UM, UPKEEP OF STREETLIGHTS.

UH, AN EXTRAORDINARY INCREASE.

UM, AND IT'S ONE THAT NORMALLY WE, WE HAVE THIS ROUTINELY ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, BUT WE FELT IT IMPORTANT TO PULL FOR BOTH YOUR, UM, REVIEW.

AND SO THE PUBLIC COULD HEAR ABOUT THIS INCREASE.

NOW, UM, SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO DENY THIS THIS EVENING, UM, WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR COALITION OF CITIES, UM, AND LAW FIRM TO, TO NEGOTIATE AND HOPEFULLY, UM, ENGAGE IN A CASE THAT WILL LOWER THOSE RATES.

UM, BUT I, AGAIN, I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THIS FOR YOUR ATTENTION AS WE, OUR RESIDENTS ARE SEEING INCREASED COSTS.

UM, THIS IN PARTICULAR IS, UH, A STAGGERING NUMBER.

WE DO HAVE A, A MEMBER OF ENCORE'S TEAM HERE THIS EVENING IF YOU WANT TO ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.

UH, WITH THAT, I'M, I'M HAPPY TO ASK, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE OF ME, MAYOR COUNSEL.

I WOULD JUST ADD THAT THIS BY, BY GOING FORWARD WITH THIS RESOLUTION, UM, THIS ALLOWS CITIES TO KIND OF CONSOLIDATE AND WORK TOGETHER, INVEST SAVING COSTS FOR BOTH US AND THE COMPANY SO THAT WE BASICALLY HAVE ONE REVIEW WHERE ALL CITIES ARE PARTICIPATING TO BE ABLE TO REVIEW THESE COSTS, MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE REASONABLE AND JUSTIFIED IN, IN THE WAY THAT THEY'RE APPROACHED IN THAT THAT ADDS FOR A MORE EFFICIENT PROCESS FOR THE PUBLIC UTILITY COMMISSION.

ALRIGHT, WE DO NEED A VOTE FOR THE RESOLUTION COUNCIL MEMBER DOWNS.

NO.

DO WE? THIS IS NOT A NO, WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC ON IT.

UM, SO COUNCIL MEMBER DOWNS MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION.

I'LL SECOND THAT.

OKAY.

SO I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION OF DENYING, UM, THE, UH, RATE CHANGE OF ENCORE.

PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION PASSES EIGHT TO ZERO.

ITEM NUMBER

[(5)  Consideration of a Resolution to nominate an individual for election to the Collin Central Appraisal District Board of Directors; and providing an effective date.]

FIVE.

ITEM NUMBER FIVE, CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION TO NOMINATE AN INDIVIDUAL FOR ELECTION TO THE CALL AND CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

OKAY, ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS A RESOLUTION THAT WE NEED TO, UM, VOTE FOR.

AND LET ME, LET ME SEE IF I CAN HELP YOU GUYS OUT WITH SOME LITTLE INFORMATION ON THE, UM, ON THE COLLIN COUNTY.

UH, THERE, THERE WERE, UM, WERE THESE THE TWO, THESE ARE THE TWO POSITIONS ONLY, OR THE TWO POSITIONS THAT, UM, OH, HERE WE GO.

OKAY.

SO THE RESOLUTION FOR NOMINEES OF THE COLLIN COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT AND DENTON COUNTY APPRAISAL ARE ON MONDAY'S AGENDA.

SO FOR THE COLLIN COUNTY CAD PLANO, ISD SELECTED DOUG BENDER AS A NOMINEE AND FOR DENTON, UH, CAD LEWIS.

WE'LL, WE'LL DO THAT IN A MINUTE.

SO THO THE PISD SELECTED DOUG BENDER, UH, AS THEIR NOMINEE DOWN HERE, WE ALSO HAVE A JERRY TAR TARNO AND BRIAN MANEY.

SO THESE ARE, UH, THESE FOR THE COLLIN COUNTY, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW.

THESE ARE, THESE ARE THE NAMES THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED.

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SO WE NEED, WE NEED A, A MOTION AND A SECOND REGARDING, UM, THE NOMINEE.

AND JUST AGAIN, TO REMIND YOU, PLANO ISD SELECTED DOUG BENDER, AND THEN THERE'S TWO OTHER NAMES DOWN HERE, UM, AS WELL.

WHAT, GO AHEAD.

LET ME GIVE IT TO YOU.

UM, MY, MY QUESTION IS, WE NOMINATE, BUT ARE THEY GO, I MEAN, ARE THEY FOR SURE GOING TO BE SITTING ON THAT? NO, WE J WE JUST GET A PERCENTAGE OF THE OVERALL VOTE IN COLLIN COUNTY.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, JUST BECAUSE WE NOMINATE DOESN'T MEAN THAT THAT PERSON WILL AUTOMATICALLY GET ON BOARD? CORRECT.

OKAY.

IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A CUMULATIVE, UM, VOTE ALL ACROSS COLLIN COUNTY FROM CITIES AND, AND, UH, SCHOOL DISTRICTS.

THEN I, I, I, AND THIS IS THE NOMINATION PROCESS.

OKAY.

SO I, I WOULD MOVE, I, I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE WHATEVER PISD IS NOMINATING.

OKAY.

IF IT HELPS ANY, WE GET 125 VOTES OUT OF 2000 TOTAL VOTES .

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

YEAH.

I'LL MOVE THAT.

WE NOMINATE DOUG BENDER FOR OUR COLLIN COUNTY, UM, APPOINTEE OR BOARD OF DIRECTOR.

I'LL SE I'LL SECOND THAT.

OKAY.

SO I HAVE A MOTION.

AND SECOND, UH, TO NOMINATE DOUG BENDER FOR THE COLLIN COUNTY, UH, CAD, PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION PASSES EIGHT TO ZERO ITEM.

THE, THE NEXT ITEM

[(6)  

Consideration of a Resolution to nominate an individual for election to the Denton Central Appraisal District Board of Directors; and providing an effective date.

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WOULD BE FOR THE DENTON COUNTY CAD.

AND AGAIN, I, I STOPPED, BUT, UH, LOUISVILLE, ISD SELECTED ANN POAL AND MIKE HEIFER AS NOMINEES.

AGAIN, I THINK LISA TOLD US THAT WE COULD NOMINATE TWO TWO.

DOES THAT DILUTE, THAT THOSE NOMINEES, NOT THAT 120 FIVE'S GONNA, YOU KNOW, PUT 'EM OVER THE TOP, BUT DOES THAT DILUTE THOSE TWO PEOPLE? OKAY, SO, UM, THE TWO NAMES THAT LOUISVILLE ISD NOMINATED WAS, UH, ANN PALM MCCALL AND MIKE HEIFER.

I WILL MOVE THAT.

WE NOMINATE THOSE TWO PEOPLE FOR LEWISVILLE, OR EXCUSE ME, FOR DENTON.

UM, DENTON CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT.

WHO, WHO'D YOU? ANN.

ANN.

OKAY.

NICOLE AND MIKE.

JENNIFER.

OH, AND BOTH.

OKAY.

AND JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION, WE GET FIVE VOTES IN DENIN COUNTY.

.

WELL, THEY CAN FIGHT OVER THEM.

SO WE CAN, WE CAN FIGHT OVER THOSE.

I'LL SECOND THAT.

OKAY.

SO I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO NOMINATE, UH, BOTH ANN PO MCCALL AND MIKE JENNIFER AS NOMINEES IN THE DENTON COUNTY.

UH, CAD, PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION PASSES EIGHT TO ZERO.

WITH THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, WE'RE ADJOURNED.

I.