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OKAY,

[CALL TO ORDER]

LET'S MOVE ON TO THE REGULAR MEETING.

I NOW DECLARE THAT THE PLAINTIFF CITY COUNCIL IS RECONVENED INTO OPEN SESSION THAT ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.

WE'LL BEGIN TONIGHT'S REGULAR MEETING WITH THE INVOCATION LED BY PASTOR PEDRO GUO JR.

WITH THE HOUSE OF VISION AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND TEXAS PLEDGE LED BY THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUBS OF COLLIN COUNTY.

WOULD YOU PLEASE RISE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS MAYOR, MR. MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

IT'S A PRIVILEGE TO BE HERE WITH YOU GUYS TONIGHT.

LET'S GO TO THE LORD IN PRAYER.

HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME BEFORE YOU IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST.

LORD, WE THANK YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE HERE IN THIS PLACE.

GOD, I ASK THAT YOU WOULD GIVE WISDOM, KNOWLEDGE, AND UNDERSTANDING TO EVERY SINGLE COUNCIL MEMBER HERE, LORD, AND THE DECISIONS THAT THEY HAVE TO MAKE CONCERNING OUR CITY.

GOD, YOUR WORD SAYS THAT IF YOUR PEOPLE WHO ARE CALLED BY YOUR NAME, HUMBLE THEMSELVES AND PRAY AND SEEK YOUR FACE AND TURN FROM WICKED WAYS THAT YOU WILL HEAR US FROM HEAVEN AND FORGIVE OUR SINS AND HEAL OUR LAND.

GOD, TODAY, LORD, I DECLARE.

I DECLARE LIFE.

I DECLARE BLESSING OVER THIS COUNCIL.

I DECLARE BLESSING OVER THE CITY OF PLANO.

AND I THANK YOU BECAUSE THE CITY OF PLANO IS SUCH A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE.

IT'S A PLACE WHERE WE CAN CALL HOME, WHERE A PLACE WHERE WE CAN WORSHIP YOU, THE PLACE WHERE WE CAN HAVE COMMUNITY.

AND WE THANK YOU FOR THIS MEETING TODAY AND PRAY THAT YOU WOULD BE WITH EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT IS IN THIS PLACE.

IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST.

AMEN.

THANK YOU.

YOU ARE COMING.

I'LL LET YOU, YOU GUYS DO.

TURN TO THE FLAGS.

OKAY.

ALL ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.

IP ALLEGIANCE TO BE TEXAS UNDER GOD.

ONE INDIVISIBLE BC DID WANT YOU TO HAVE ONE OF MY DRINK.

HI GUYS.

THANK YOU GUYS FOR DOING THIS.

YOU'RE SO NICE.

HOW ARE YOU? HOW, HOW ARE YOU? GOOD.

OKAY.

WAIT.

BEFORE YOU GO, I GOTTA TAKE A PICTURE WITH YOU.

THAT'S, THAT'S HOW MUCH IT COSTS.

OKAY.

COME, COME STAND RIGHT HERE.

COME STAND RIGHT NEXT TO ME.

STAND YOU.

COME, COME TO THE BACK ROW.

YOU'RE SO TALL.

OKAY.

ARE WE GOOD? ALL RIGHT.

OKAY.

READY GUYS? THREE, TWO.

OH, THANK YOU GUYS.

THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.

OKAY, PERFECT.

THANK YOU.

GOD BLESS YOU.

YOU TOO.

APPRECIATE IT.

OKAY.

[Proclamation:  September is Hunger Action Month meant to mobilize the public to action on the issue of hunger.]

IF YOU WEREN'T PAYING ATTENTION HERE TO THE PODIUM, IT'S THAT TIME OF THE YEAR.

IT'S PEANUT BUTTER TIME OF THE YEAR.

AND UH, SO SEPTEMBER IS HUNGER ACTION MONTH.

WE'LL JOIN WITH MANY OF OUR COMMUNITY, UH, FRIENDS.

ACTUALLY IT'S 13 COUNTIES THAT THE NORTH TEXAS FOOD BANK, UM,

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COLLECTS PEANUT BUTTER, UH, IN THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER.

AND SO THIS IS OUR ANNUAL PEANUT BUTTER DRIVE.

AND, UH, WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR QUITE A WHILE, AND UNFORTUNATELY THE NEED IS AS GREAT AS IT'S EVER BEEN.

AND WE THANK ALL OF YOU THAT HAVE PARTICIPATED IN YEARS PAST AND WE ARE GOING TO NEED, UH, SO MANY MORE TO PARTICIPATE.

SO I REALLY ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU, UH, TO DONATE TO THE NORTH TEXAS FOOD BANK IN THE PEANUT BUTTER DRIVE DURING THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER.

YOU CAN DO IT ANYTIME YOU'D LIKE, BUT SEPTEMBER IS WHEN WE ARE FOCUSED ON IT.

AND SO WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION HUNGER ACTION MONTH IN SEPTEMBER OF 25.

WHEREAS HUNGER ACTION MONTH WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2008 BY FEEDING AMERICA AND WORKS TO PROMOTE WAYS FOR INDIVIDUAL ORGANIZATIONS AND COMMITTEES EVERYWHERE TO GET INVOLVED AND HELP FIGHT THE HUNGER CRISIS.

WHEREAS THE NATIONWIDE CAMPAIGN STRIVES TO MOBILIZE THE PUBLIC INTO ACTING ON THE ISSUE OF HUNGER AND HELP THE MORE THAN 12.1% OF THE COLLIN COUNTY POPULATION WHO ARE FOOD INSECURE.

WHEREAS THE PLAINTIFF CITY COUNCIL WILL NOT RELENT IN ITS EFFORTS TO CARE FOR OUR OWN.

WE CHALLENGE ALL OF COLLIN COUNTY TO GET INVOLVED.

AND DURING THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER, WE'LL COME TOGETHER TO HELP SOLVE THE HUNGER CRISIS IN NORTH TEXAS BY PARTNERING WITH ALL OF OUR NORTH TEXAS FRIENDS TO PROMOTE AND PARTICIPATE IN THE ANNUAL PEANUT BUTTER DRIVE.

THERE WILL BE BOTH VIRTUAL AND IN-PERSON OPTIONS FOR PARTICIPATING.

THE MORE WE COLLECT, THE MORE IMPACT WE MAKE.

NOW, THEREFORE, I JOHN MUS MAYOR, THE CITY OF PLANO, TEXAS DO HEREBY PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER, 2025 IS HUNGER ACTION MONTH IN PLANO.

AND I DO THEREBY ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO JOIN ME, THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL AND THE NORTH TEXAS FOOD BANK IN WORKING TOGETHER TO ERADICATE HUNGER IN OUR CITY, COUNTY, STATE, AND UNION.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

[COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST]

COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST, COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST.

THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING IS TO ALLOW UP TO THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER WITH 30 TOTAL MINUTES ON ITEMS OF, OF INTEREST OR CONCERN, AND NOT ON ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE CURRENT AGENDA.

THE COUNCIL MAY NOT DISCUSS THESE ITEMS, BUT MAY RESPOND WITH FACTUAL OR POLICY INFORMATION.

THE COUNCIL MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA.

AND WE DO HAVE TWO SPEAKERS THIS EVENING.

THE FIRST ONE IS CRYSTAL CURRY.

HELLO EVERYBODY.

.

I AM CRYSTAL CURRY.

FIRST NAME ELA.

I SPOKE AT THE CITY COUNCIL, UM, I THINK IT WAS AROUND MEMORIAL DAY THAT MONDAY I CAME IN AND I HAD SOME CONCERNS.

UM, I'M JUST REMINDED OF A QUOTE THAT I READ AND IT SAYS THAT, UH, YOU, UH, AN ENEMY IS A PERSON'S STORY THAT YOU DO NOT KNOW.

AND, UM, I THINK THAT MY STORY IS, UH, IS UNKNOWN AND UM, THAT MAY BE PART OF THE REASON WHY I AM HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF TROUBLE.

BUT, UM, I HAD APPROACHED THE COUNCIL ABOUT, UH, ASSIGNING SOMEONE OR GETTING SOMEONE TO HELP ME THROUGH THE VARIOUS CHALLENGES AS I'VE HAD.

I'VE DETAILED JUST A COUPLE OF EMAILS THAT OUTLINED SOME OF THE CHALLENGES WITHIN THE SPECIFIC AREAS OF PLANO.

AND WITHOUT ADDRESSING EACH AREA HERE INDIVIDUALLY, I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BEST IF SOMEONE COULD ASSIGN ME WITH, OR WHAT THAT PROCESS WOULD LOOK LIKE TO GET THE HELP TO SORT OF RESOLVE SOME OF WHAT WAS HAPPENING, UM, FOR ME.

SO I AM JUST HERE TO FOLLOW UP.

I, LIKE I MENTIONED, I SPOKE BACK IN MAY AND I HADN'T HEARD ANYTHING.

SO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP AND JOIN THE AGENDA TO, YOU KNOW, SHOW UP AGAIN.

SO THAT IS IT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

WE'LL DO THAT.

THANK YOU.

THE NEXT SPEAKER IS BILL LYLE.

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GOOD EVENING COUNSEL.

UH, MAYOR, CITY MANAGER.

UH, MY NAME'S BILL LYLE, 1724 15TH PLACE.

UM, I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY.

AND THEN I SAT HERE FOR Y'ALL'S PRELIMINARY OPEN MEETING AND THAT CHANGED.

SO HERE I AM.

UM, THE PARKS PRESENTATION THAT JUST HAPPENED, WE HAD A REALLY NICE GRAPH UP THERE WITH ALL OF THOSE AREAS ALL OVER THE CITY OF PLANO WHERE THESE FUND BALANCES ARE TO BE SPENT.

BUT WHAT WAS MISSING, THERE WERE NO PARKS.

IT WAS JUST BLANK AREAS.

SO YOU CAN'T SEE WHERE THE PARKS ARE.

WHAT ELSE WAS MISSING? THE ACTUAL FUND BALANCES THAT ARE SITTING IN AN ACCOUNT SOMEWHERE THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SPENT IN THOSE AREAS.

AND I KNOW PLANO VALUES TRANSPARENCY.

YOU WOULD JUST THINK IF YOU'RE GONNA BRING A GRAPH LIKE THAT, THAT YOU WOULD SHOW EVERYBODY, HEY, HERE'S THE EXISTING PARKS AND HERE'S THE BALANCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE IN EACH ONE OF THESE AREAS OR BALANCES NOT AVAILABLE, BUT, BUT THAT WE HAVE TO SPEND IN THOSE AREAS.

AND SO I, I THINK THAT'S A MISS.

YOU HEARD FROM MS. JORDAN THAT THERE'S AN APPEALS PROCESS.

AND SO I HAVE REALLY ONE, ONE, UM, EXPERIENCE WITH THIS.

I HAD A VERY SMALL SOMETHING OR OTHER TO DO WITH A PROJECT THAT'S HAPPENING DOWN ON JAY PLACE RIGHT NOW AT, UH, JUST ON THE NORTH SIDE OF GEORGE BUSH, NORTH SIDE OF CITY LINE.

UM, IT WAS APPROVED SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION NOW.

BUT DURING THAT WHOLE ZONING PROCESS, THERE WAS A COUPLE ACRES JUST SOUTH OF THE PROJECT THAT WAS OWNED BY SOMEBODY ELSE.

AND THERE WAS ENCOURAGEMENT FROM THE COUNCIL.

YOU KNOW, WE'D LOVE TO SEE YOU BUY THAT.

THERE'S A BIKE TRAIL THAT DEAD ENDS INTO THE SERVICE LANE OF GEORGE BUSH RIGHT THERE.

IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE CONNECTED VIA SIDEWALK UP TO JAY PLACE.

ZERO PARTICIPATION WAS WILLINGNESS FROM ZERO PARTICIPATION IS WHAT THE CITY WAS WILLING TO TO PARTICIPATE ON THAT PURCHASE.

THEY WON'T EVEN CALL IT PARKLAND BECAUSE IT'S TOO CLOSE TO THE HIGHWAYS.

AND SO I JUST WANT Y'ALL FROM REAL EXPERIENCE TO KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO ACTUALLY DEAL WITH PLANO WHEN YOU COME INTO ONE OF THESE SITUATIONS.

I WAS ON ANOTHER CALL WITH PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THERE'S THAT LINEAR, REALLY AWKWARD, THEY CALL IT THE HOTEL SITE THAT WAS BEHIND FRY'S.

THAT'S ALSO JUST OFF THAT SERVICE ROAD BETWEEN THE SERVICE ROAD AND EXECUTIVE.

SO I WAS ON A CALL WITH PARKS AND REC THERE.

I WAS WORKING WITH ANOTHER DEVELOPER TO TRY TO PUT SOCCER AND PICKLEBALL FIELDS 'CAUSE IT'S JUST THIS LONG, SKINNY PIECE OF LAND ZERO PARTICIPATION WILLINGNESS FROM THE CITY OF PLANO.

BUT IF YOU GO FROM THAT, BUT IF YOU LOOK ON THE RICHARDSON SIDE, YOU KNOW, PARKS OR PLANO, THEY'RE LIKE, OH NO, THAT'S TOO CLOSE TO THE HIGHWAY.

WE WON'T EVEN DO A PARK THERE.

CAN'T EVEN CONSIDER IT.

BUT RICHARDSON HAS A DOG PARK UNDER THE HIGHWAY, VOLLEYBALL ON THE NORTH SIDE.

AND SO IT'S LIKE, THAT'S WEIRD.

20 SECONDS THAT THESE TWO CITIES ARE RIGHT HERE UNDER THE EXACT SAME HIGHWAY.

ONE HAS A HUGE DOG PARK AND VOLLEYBALL NETS AND ON OUR SIDE WHERE YOU NEED A LITTLE PARTICIPATION WHERE THERE'S NOTHING DOWN THERE IN THAT SOUTHERN CORRIDOR FOR THE CITY OF PLANO.

SORRY, WE WON'T HELP, WE WON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT.

MAYBE IT WAS 'CAUSE I WAS PART OF THE DEAL.

I DON'T KNOW , IT'S POSSIBLE.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO LET Y'ALL KNOW WHAT WHAT HAPPENS OUT THERE IN THE REAL WORLD WITH THAT APPEALS PROCESS TIME.

NOT TO MY TIME'S UP.

YEP.

I COULD KEEP GOING.

THANK YOU.

OKAY,

[CONSENT AGENDA]

MOVING ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

THE CONSENT AGENDA.

THE CONSENT AGENDA WILL BE ACTED UPON IN ONE MOTION AND CONTAINS ITEMS WHICH ARE ROUTINE.

AND TYPICALLY NON-CONTROVERSIAL ITEMS MAY BE REMOVED FROM THIS AGENDA FOR INDIVIDUAL DISCUSSION BY A COUNCIL MEMBER, THE CITY MANAGER, OR ANY CITIZEN.

THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL ESTABLISH TIME LIMITS BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKER REQUESTS.

YES, MR. MAYOR, I MOVE, UM, TO APPROVE THE CONSENTED AGENDA EXCEPT FOR PARAGRAPH P.

OKAY.

ITEM P, MR. MAYOR, I'LL SECOND THE MOTION.

THANK YOU.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM P.

PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION PASSES EIGHT TO ZERO.

I,

[(p)  

To appoint an Associate Judge of the Municipal Court of Record of the City of Plano, setting the term of office and compensation for the Judge; and providing a publication clause, and an effective date.

]

UM, I PULLED ITEM P BECAUSE I WANTED TO RECOGNIZE OUR NEW ASSOCIATE, JUDGE MAX LYLE MAX, WILL YOU STAND PLEASE? EVERYBODY GIVE MAX A HAND.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

I'LL BE PRESUMPTUOUS AND, AND BELIEVE THAT YOU MAY HAVE THE VOTES TO BE APPOINTED.

SO I WILL MAKE

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THE MOTION, UH, TO APPROVE ITEM P.

COUNCIL MEMBER HORNE, MR. MAYOR ALLEN, GLAD TO SECOND THAT MOTION.

THANK YOU.

SO I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE ITEM P, PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION PASSES EIGHT TO ZERO.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, WELCOMING YOU AND HAVING YOU RIGHT HERE IN THE CITY OF PLANO.

THANK YOU.

THANK NEXT ITEM

[(1)  

Public Hearing and consideration of an Ordinance as requested in Zoning Case 2025-007 to amend Article 1 (Legal Framework), Article 3 (Site Plan Review), Article 4 (Amendments), Article 5 (Variances and Appeals of Administrative Decisions), Article 8 (Definitions), Article 9 (Residential Districts), Article 10 (Nonresidential Districts), Article 11 (Overlay Districts), Article 13 (Lot and Building Standards), Article 14 (Allowed Uses and Use Classifications), Article 15 (Use-specific Regulations), Article 16 (Parking and Loading), Article 17 (Landscaping and Tree Preservation), Article 20 (Screening, Fence and Wall Regulations), Article 21 (Residential Adjacency Standards), and Article 25 (Traffic Studies) of the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance of the City, Ordinance No. 2015-5-2, as heretofore amended, as a result of recent state legislative actions and to ensure compliance with state law; and providing a penalty clause, a repealer clause, a savings clause, a severability clause, a publication clause, and an effective date.

 

]

ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.

PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS, APPLICANTS ARE LIMITED TO 15 MINUTES PRESENTATION TIME WITH A FIVE MINUTE REBUTTAL IF NEEDED.

REMAINING SPEAKERS ARE LIMITED TO 30 TOTAL MINUTES OF TESTIMONY TIME WITH THREE MINUTES ASSIGNED PER SPEAKER.

THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY AMEND THESE TIMES AS DEEMED NECESSARY NON-PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL PERMIT PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA NOT POSTED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.

THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL ESTABLISH TIME LIMITS BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKER REQUESTS, LENGTH OF THE AGENDA, AND TO ENSURE MEETING EFFICIENCY AND MAY INCLUDE A CUMULATIVE TIME LIMIT.

SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER.

THE REQUESTS ARE RECEIVED UNTIL THE CUMULATIVE TIME IS EXHAUSTED.

ITEM NUMBER ONE, PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE AS REQUESTED IN ZONING CASE 2025 DASH SEVEN TO AMEND ARTICLE ONE LEGAL FRAMEWORK, ARTICLE THREE, SITE PLAN REVIEW, ARTICLE FOUR AMENDMENTS, ARTICLE FIVE, VARIANCES AND APPEALS OF ADMINISTRATIVE DECISIONS, ARTICLE EIGHT DEFINITIONS.

ARTICLE NINE, RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS ARTICLE 10, NON-RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS ARTICLE 11, OVERLAY DISTRICTS ARTICLE 13 LOT AND BUILDING STANDARDS.

ARTICLE 14 ALLOWED USES AND CLASSIFICATIONS.

ARTICLE 15, USE SPECIFIC REGULATIONS.

ARTICLE 16, PARKING AND LOADING, ARTICLE 17, LANDSCAPE AND TREE PRESERVATION ARTICLE 20 SCREENING, FENCE AND WALL REGULATIONS, ARTICLE 21, RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY STANDARDS.

AND ARTICLE 25, TRAFFIC STUDIES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY.

ORDINANCE NUMBER 2015 DASH FIVE DASH TWO IS HERE TO FOR AMENDED AS A RESULT OF RECENT STATE LEGISLATIVE ACTIONS AND TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW, PROVIDING A PENALTY CLAUSE, A REPEAL CLAUSE, A SAVINGS CLAUSE, A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, AND A PUBLICATION DATE.

GOOD EVENING MAYOR, COUNSEL AND EXECUTIVES.

I'M CHRISTINA DAY, THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING.

AND AS YOU HEARD IN THE DESCRIPTION READ BY MS. HENDERSON, WE HAVE A LOT OF GROUND TO COVER.

I'M GONNA WORK MY HARDEST TO KEEP IT CONCISE, BUT I DO HAVE A NUMBER OF, OF SLIDES AND QUITE A BIT OF INFORMATION.

THERE WERE QUITE A FEW LAND USE IMPACT BILLS THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

THREE OF THOSE, THE ONES WITH STARS ARE ONES THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED BEFORE AT THE JOINT WORK SESSION.

BUT THERE ARE A COUPLE THAT I WILL UPDATE YOU ON BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THOSE PREVIOUSLY.

HOW TO SPELL 24 AND 24 64 THAT CHANGE THE NOTICE PROCEDURES FOR ZONING CASES AND ALSO, UM, CREATE A NEW NO IMPACT HOME, HOME-BASED BUSINESS REGULATION, UH, WITHIN THE STATE.

SO THE PROCESS TO DATE THIS HAS BEEN A MULTI-PHASE PROCESS, KIND OF IN A CONDENSED TIMEFRAME.

WE STARTED OFF, UM, BRIEFING P AND Z IN MAY FOR THE UPCOMING BILLS.

THEN WHAT WE WERE HEARING OUT OF THE SESSION, WE HAD A WORK SESSION WITH PNZ IN JULY, FOLLOWED BY THAT JOINT WORK SESSION THAT YOU ALL PARTICIPATED IN.

THEN WE HAD THE PNZ PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE OR, OR, UH, ORDINANCE CHANGES RATHER ON AUGUST 6TH.

AND HERE WE ARE, AUGUST 25TH AT THE COUNCIL PUBLIC HEARING.

SO WE ESTABLISHED SOME GOALS ASSOCIATED WITH IMPLEMENTING THESE ORDINANCES.

UH, PRESERVING OUR ABILITY TO FOSTER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, PRESERVING NEIGHBORHOOD COMPATIBILITY AND INTEGRITY, ENSURING ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE, PRESERVING THE DESIRABILITY AND ATTRACTIVENESS OF PLANO AS A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN LIVE AND WORK, UH, BY REQUIRING WELL-BUILT MULTIFAMILY AND MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS AS WELL AS DIVERSIFYING THE CITY'S HOUSING STOCK.

SO YOU MAY NOTICE WE'VE UPDATED THESE WITH THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU GAVE US AT THE JOINT SESSION.

ONE PARTICULAR CONSIDERATION FOR STAFF AND DEVELOPING THIS, UM, AND FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AS WELL, WAS TO ENSURE WE MINIMIZED ANY NONCONFORMITIES.

TO OUR KNOWLEDGE, THERE ARE NO USE NONCONFORMITIES CREATED THROUGH THIS ORDINANCE.

SO WE'LL START WITH THE BILLS HOUSE BILL 24 IS EFFECTIVE SEPTEMBER 1ST, AND THIS CHANGES THE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS FOR

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ZONING CASES RATHER SUBSTANTIALLY.

UM, IT DOES REQUIRE NOW THAT SIGNS BE POSTED ON ALL SITES.

PREVIOUSLY THAT WAS NOT PART OF STATE LAW.

IT WAS PART OF THE CITY'S ORDINANCES.

IT CREATES A NEW CATEGORY OF ZONING CHANGE, IT CHANGES PROTEST THRESHOLDS AND ALSO REMOVES THE OPTION FOR A REQUIRING A CITY COUNCIL SUPER MAJORITY WHEN A ZONING CASE IS DENIED AT PNZ.

SO I'M JUST GONNA FOCUS ON A FEW OF THESE THAT I THINK HAVE THE MOST IMPACT.

ONE IS REQUIRING ZONING SIGNS.

PREVIOUSLY WE'VE ALLOWED DURING, UH, CERTAIN CITY INITIATED CASES AS TO UTILIZE COMMUNICATIONS AND EXTRA OUTREACH TO, UH, IN LIEU OF POSTING SIGNS BECAUSE IT IS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.

UM, BUT THE STATE IS REQUIRING US TO DO THIS.

SO THAT WILL BE OR COULD BE AT THE CITY'S EXPENSE.

SO, UM, KNOW THAT THE CITY WILL NEED TO START POSTING SIGNS WHEN WE DO A CITY INITIATED ZONING CHANGE.

UM, PROTEST CHANGES.

SO THIS IS REALLY FOCUSED ON ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, UM, AND MAKING A HIGHER BAR OF PROTEST FOR NEIGHBORS WHEN RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT'S PROPOSED.

SO THE CHANGE WOULD BE, I THINK THIS TABLE KIND OF SUMS IT UP.

IT MAKES VARIOUS CATEGORIES.

WHAT WAS SIMPLER IS NOW MORE COMPLICATED.

UM, LAND-BASED CASES, WE STILL HAVE A 20% PROTEST FOR WITH THE SUPER MAJORITY OF COUNCIL OF OR SIX VOTES, UH, WHICH IS THE WAY IT IS TODAY.

UM, BUT THEN WE NOW HAVE THESE THREE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.

ONE, IF A CASE IS ADDING ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL, UM, THEN IT HAS MOVED UP TO A 60% PO PROTEST REQUIREMENT, AND THAT'S JUST TO GET A MAJORITY OF COUNCIL MEMBERS.

SO REALLY, UM, I THINK THAT THE BIGGEST IMPACT WOULD BE IF THEY'RE NOT THE ALL OF COUNCIL SEATED THAT EVENING.

UM, THEN WE HAVE OTHER PROPOSED COMPREHENSIVE ZONING CHANGES THAT ARE DEFINED UNDER THE LAW WHERE THERE'S NO ABILITY TO PROTEST.

AND THE OTHER LAND-BASED ZONING CASES THAT DON'T FALL INTO ONE OF THE FIRST TWO CATEGORIES ARE GONNA STICK WITH A 20% PROTEST REQUIRING A SUPER MAJORITY AT COUNCIL.

SO THE FINAL COMMENT ON HOUSE BILL 24 IS THAT THE ORDINANCES WERE UPDATED TO REMOVE THE REQUIREMENT FOR A CITY COUNCIL MAJORITY WHEN P AND Z DENIED A ZONING CASE.

UM, THAT'S BEEN OUR PRACTICE FOR AS LONG AS I'M AWARE, BUT THE CITY'S CHARTER DOES NOT ALLOW US TO KEEP THAT IN OUR ORDINANCES WHEN THE ALLOWANCE ISN'T PROVIDED IN STATE LAW.

AND THAT WAS STRUCK.

SO HOUSE BILL 24 64 CREATES A NEW NO IMPACT HOME-BASED BUSINESS, UM, WHICH IS A REGULATION THAT'S ALREADY IN EFFECT.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES TO ENSURE THEY'RE AWARE AND WE'RE COORDINATED ON THESE EFFORTS.

BUT THERE ARE SOME, WE HAVE AN EXISTING HOME OCCUPATION STANDARD IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

SO WE LIKE TO KIND OF KEEP THINGS SIMPLE.

IT WOULD BE IDEAL IF WE WERE JUST TO MERGE THESE TOGETHER.

HOWEVER, IT THERE ARE PRETTY DISTINCT IN A COUPLE OF WAYS.

AND SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO CREATE TWO DIFFERENT USES AND HERE'S WHY.

THE HOME OCCUPATION THAT'S EXISTING IN THE ORDINANCE DOES ALLOW ON-STREET PARKING, UM, IN FRONT OF THE HOME.

IT ALSO ALLOWS ONE EMPLOYEE OTHER THAN THE OCCUPANTS OF THE HOME, THE HOME-BASED BUSINESS THAT'S BEEN CREATED UNDER STATE LAW SAYS YOU CAN'T USE ANY ON STREET PARKING CONNECTED WITH YOUR BUSINESS, BUT IT HAS THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES ONLY LIMITED TO THE OCCUPANCY OF THE BUILDING.

SO IT COULD BE A FAIRLY SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES, UM, ON SITE, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE.

SO BECAUSE OF THOSE DISTINCTIONS, WE WERE REALLY CONCERNED WITH CREATING NONCONFORMITIES AND THEREFORE ARE RECOMMENDING THE NO IMPACT HOME-BASED BUSINESS AS A SEPARATE USE IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

OKAY, SENATE BILLS 15, 8 40 AND 24 77, WHICH RELATE TO RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

YOU'VE SEEN THIS SLIDE BEFORE.

YOU CAN SEE THESE BILLS REALLY HAVE A STRONG IMPACT IN THE METROPLEX SENATE.

BILL 15 IS THE SMALL LOT SINGLE FAMILY BILL THAT WHERE PROPERTY IS ZONED TO ALLOW SINGLE FAMILY HOMES HAS NEVER BEEN PLATTED AND IS MORE THAN FIVE ACRES.

UH, WE ARE REQUIRED TO ALLOW SMALL LOT SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT.

IT'S ALSO PRESCRIPTIVE AS TO THE STANDARDS AND HOW THAT CAN BE ALLOWED.

SO YOU'VE SEEN THIS MAP BEFORE AS WELL WITH THIS STATUS OF DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY.

THERE'S NOT A LOT OF LOCATIONS THAT TO WHERE THIS APPLIES, BUT THERE ARE LOCATIONS AND IT COULD BE MEANINGFUL TO PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THOSE AREAS.

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SO WE WANNA DISCLOSE THE UNPLED AREAS WHERE SINGLE FAMILIES ALLOWED BY RIGHT, THAT WE THINK WOULD BE PERMITTED TO DEVELOP UNDER THIS BILL.

SO OUR IMPLEMENTATION IS TO AMEND THE USE SPECIFIC STANDARDS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE TO CREATE A SMALL LOT SINGLE FAMILY STANDARD THAT ALIGNS WITH THE BILL.

AND SO PEOPLE COULD BUILD UNDER THAT STANDARD WHERE IT'S ALLOWED SENATE BILL EIGHT 40.

THIS ALLOWS MIXED USE OR MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT, UM, IN ANY OF OUR NON-RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS.

UH, WE CAN'T REQUIRE ANY KIND OF DISCRETIONARY APPROVAL AS WE HAVE IN THE PAST.

AND IT LIMITS WHAT THE CITY CAN REGULATE ANYWHERE MULTIFAMILY IS BUILT.

SO EVEN IN OUR EXISTING MULTIFAMILY ZONING DISTRICTS, IT CHANGES THE CITY'S ABILITY TO REGULATE THINGS LIKE HEIGHT, DENSITY, SETBACKS, LOT COVERAGE AND PARKING.

UM, WE HAVE TO ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVE OUR PERMITS AND OUR PERMITTING PROCESS.

SO SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO THE WAY WE DO BUSINESS.

THIS IS THE MAP, UH, THAT YOU'VE SEEN BEFORE REGARDING THE PARCELS OF LAND THAT ARE IMPACTED IN OUR ANALYSIS WITH BLUE REPRESENTING NON-RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS AND ORANGE REPRESENTING OUR MULTIFAMILY ZONING DISTRICTS.

I'LL JUST MAKE A QUICK MENTION OF SENATE BILL 24 77.

THIS ALLOWS CONVERSION OF OFFICE SPACE INTO MULTIFAMILY OR MIXED USE BUILDINGS, AND IT DOES LARGELY PARALLEL SB EIGHT 40, BUT WE DID, UH, MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ANY DIFFERENCES WERE ACCOMMODATED IN OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO THESE ARE THE AREAS THAT ARE REGULATED BY SB EIGHT 40 DENSITY, HEIGHT, SETBACKS, PARKING LOT COVERAGE, OTHER NON-RESIDENTIAL USES AND APPROVALS.

UM, THE, ONE OF THE TRICKY THINGS ABOUT THIS BILL IS THAT EACH ONE, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT INDIVIDUALLY BECAUSE DENSITY CITYWIDE STANDARD, BUT HEIGHT AND SETBACKS ARE LOOKING AT THE SITE INDIVIDUALLY.

SO THAT WAS, UM, ONE OF THE GREATER CHALLENGES IN GOING THROUGH THE ORDINANCE IS LOOKING AT THINGS THROUGH A DIFFERENT LENS BASED ON THE VARIOUS STANDARDS.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT BRINGING ALL THE REGULATIONS IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAW.

UM, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT DENSITY IN THE JOINT WORK SESSION.

THAT PROPOSAL IS IN FRONT OF YOU THIS EVENING.

WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT ADOPTING NEW DESIGN STANDARDS.

THINGS THAT WE WOULD TYPICALLY HAVE NEGOTIATED THROUGH THE ZONING PROCESS ARE PROPOSED AS A STANDARDIZED, UM, IMPLEMENTATION OF REGULATIONS.

HERE.

WE'VE UPDATED THE EXPRESSWAY CORRIDOR OVERLAY DISTRICT AS WELL AS ALLOWING SINGLE FAMILY USES IN SOME NON-RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS WHERE MULTIFAMILY IS ALLOWED AND THAT MAY BE APPROPRIATE FOR MORE DENSE SINGLE FAMILY.

UM, REMOVING MULTIFAMILY IS IN ALLOWED USE IN THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY DESIGN DISTRICT AND REQUIRING SIGNAGE AND NOTICE SO QUICKLY.

THIS MAP SHOWS THE HEIGHT STANDARDS THAT WOULD BE, UM, REQUIRED UNDER THE BILL, BOTH MINIMUMS AND MAXIMUMS AND THEIR ASSOCIATED ZONING DISTRICTS.

UM, THE HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS ARE SOMETHING THAT WHEN IT COMES TO RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY AND ESPECIALLY NEIGHBORHOOD ADJACENCY WHERE THINGS THAT THE, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WAS CONCERNED ABOUT.

AND SO WE LOOKED AT STANDARDS IN THE ORDINANCE AND THERE WAS A YARD REGULATION THAT EFFECTIVELY WAS A HEIGHT REGULATION.

AND SO WE REWORKED THAT TO MAKE IT VERY EXPLICITLY A HEIGHT REGULATION.

AND SO IT IS, UH, SIMILAR OR, UM, TO THE EXISTING STANDARD TODAY, BUT JUST REWORKED AND IT DOES APPLY TO ALL DEVELOPMENTS SO AS THEREFORE ALLOWED UNDER THE BILL.

SO DESIGN STANDARDS, UM, PLANO HAS LONG HAD DESIGN STANDARDS.

I LOVE THIS OLD 1991 MULTIFAMILY DESIGN GUIDELINES KIND OF SHOWS YOU WHERE WE WERE.

UM, THESE FOCUS EXCLUSIVELY ON GARDEN STYLE APARTMENTS.

SO THIS WAS RESCINDED IN 2022 BECAUSE IT JUST REALLY DIDN'T HAVE ANY USE FOR THE STANDARDS BECAUSE SO FEW GARDEN APARTMENTS ARE BUILT TODAY.

SO WE HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH A PROCESS OF A COMMUNITY DESIGN PLAN TO ESTABLISH STANDARDS IMPLEMENTING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CITYWIDE, AND THAT WILL THEN BRING US TO SOME OF THE WORK THAT WAS DONE THERE.

WE ARE TRYING TO DEVELOP AS THAT KIND OF ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS TO IMPLEMENT DESIGN STANDARDS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY IN PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS.

SO WHAT'S BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS SIX PAGES OF DESIGN STANDARDS FOR MULTIFAMILY AND MIXED USE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS.

IT IS AN ATTACHMENT TO YOUR STAFF REPORT.

SO EFFICIENT BUILDING DESIGN.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE

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RECOMMENDED AFTER DISCUSSION HERE WAS INCLUDING LEAD CERTIFICATION AS AN INITIAL STEP WITH FURTHER CONSIDERATION OF CODE AMENDMENTS WORKING WITH THE BUILDING OFFICIAL AND THE REWRITE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

SO TONIGHT'S PACKAGE, YOU DO SEE A STANDARD LEAD CERTIFICATION REQUIREMENT, UH, BUT WE WILL BE FOLLOWING UP TO WORK ON OTHER AMENDMENTS AND BRING A DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATION FOR YOU WITH THE REWRITE PROCESS PARKING STANDARDS.

THE BILL REQUIRES PARKING TO BE PERMITTED AT ONE SPACE PER UNIT.

SO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION EXPRESSED CONCERNS ABOUT COMBINING THAT MINIMAL PARKING STANDARD WITH COMPACT PARKING.

SO WE'VE WE'RE RECOMMENDING ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS TO ELIMINATE COMPACT PARKING WHERE IT WAS ALLOWED FOR 50% OF SPACES IN THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS GOVERNMENT DISTRICT EXPRESSWAY CORRIDOR DISTRICT MODIFICATIONS INCLUDE IN THE OVERLAY DISTRICT, UH, PROHIBITING BALCONIES AND REQUIRING A 15 FOOT LANDSCAPE EDGE, ALSO REMOVING ANY STANDARDS THAT WE CAN'T REQUIRE.

BUT THEN CITYWIDE SOME STANDARDS FOR, UM, AIR FILTRATION INTAKE OPENINGS AND INTERIOR NOISE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY DESIGN.

THESE ARE OUR MORE INTENSE, UM, HOUSING STANDARDS FOR THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY DESIGN DISTRICT THAT WE FELT LIKE FIT NICELY WITH CERTAIN MULTIFAMILY PRODUCTS.

SO IN ORDER TO PROMOTE MORE HOUSING DIVERSITY AND HOUSING OPTIONS FOR OUR COMMUNITY, UM, IT'S RECOMMENDED TO ALLOW THESE OPTIONS ANYWHERE THAT MULTIFAMILY IS ALLOWED, UM, IN CERTAIN LOCATIONS THAT WE THINK ARE APPROPRIATE TO THE DENSITY.

SO HERE'S THE RECOMMENDATION OF NON-RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS WHERE THOSE SINGLE FAMILY, THOSE MORE DENSE SINGLE FAMILY PRODUCTS WOULD BE ALLOWED.

UM, THEY WOULD BE PROHIBITED IN AREAS AROUND THE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USES THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED.

UM, ONE OF THE SECONDARY IMPACTS OF THIS RECOMMENDATION IS IT DOES RESULT IN A FEW PARCELS BECAUSE SINGLE FAMILY WOULD BE ALLOWED BEING, HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO REDEVELOP UNDER SB 15.

SO THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER OPTION FOR THE BLUE PARCELS ON THE SCREEN.

IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S FOUR OF THEM.

UH, OUR NOTICING REQUIREMENTS, WE ARE PROPOSING BOTH, UM, WRITTEN NOTICE AS WELL AS SIGNAGE.

UH, SO JUST TO HELP THE COMMUNITY ADAPT TO THE CHANGES THAT WE ANTICIPATE.

THIS IS THE WRITTEN NOTICE.

IT WOULD BE SENT PRIOR TO THE ENGINEERING PROJECT RELEASE BECAUSE WE WANT IT TO HAPPEN CLOSE TO THE TIME OF CONSTRUCTION.

UM, WE'RE JUST DOING IT BASED ON ZONING STANDARDS.

PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 500 FEET, REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS WITHIN 1500 FEET.

AND THEN WE DID PROPOSE A FEE TO HELP THE CITY RECOUP OUR COST ON SENDING THESE NOTICES.

THE CONFORMANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

UM, YOU'LL SEE GUIDING PRINCIPLES, LAND USE ACTIONS, COMMUNITY DESIGN POLICY AND REDEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT ACTIONS, AS WELL AS COMPLIANCE WITH THE STATE LAWS OF TEXAS.

UM, THESE ARE FROM YOUR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

THESE ARE THE, THESE ARE THE ITEMS THEY CHECKED ON THEIR FINDINGS FORMS. AND THIS ITEM DOES REQUIRE FINDINGS BECAUSE OF CONFLICTS WITH THE EXISTING COMPREHENSIVE PLANS MIX OF USES DENSITY AND BUILDING HEIGHTS UNDER OUR REDEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT ACTION ONE.

THERE WERE TWO ADDITIONAL CHANGES THAT WE FOUND, UM, IN REVIEWING THE ORDINANCE FOR COUNCIL.

UM, ONE WE MISSED INPUTTING SINGLE FAMILY IN A PART OF ARTICLE 13.

AND THEN ADDITIONAL REFERENCE TO THE DESIGN STANDARDS IS DESIRABLE FOR JUST, UM, ENFORCEABILITY.

SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT AS WELL.

ALTHOUGH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DID NOT SEE THESE TWO ITEMS. SO PUBLIC OUTREACH, UM, I WANTED TO JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE'VE DONE TO TRY TO ENSURE THAT EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY KNOWS WHAT'S HAPPENING.

SO WE'VE UTILIZED ALL THE EMAIL NEWSLETTERS THAT I'M AWARE OF THAT ARE GERMANE TO THIS TOPIC.

PLAINTIFF CITY NEWS, BEST NEIGHBORHOODS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, SAGE, UM, PROMOTING WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE COMMUNITY, MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNOW OUR PLAINTIFF CITY NEWS HAD A VIDEO.

WE HAD POSTS ON PLAINTIFF.GOV WHERE PEOPLE COULD SEE JUST IN THE NEWSFEED WHAT WAS HAPPENING.

WE USED SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS TO PUT THE, PUSH THE INFORMATION OUT TO THE COMMUNITY.

UM, THERE WAS TRADITIONAL MEDIA COVERAGE.

I HAVE A SCREENSHOT HERE FROM THE PLAINTIFF'S STAR COURIER

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AND FROM COMMUNITY IMPACT OF WHERE THEY'VE COVERED THIS ITEM.

SO ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE OUR STANDARD ZONING CASE RESPONSE MAP WHERE PEOPLE CAN PROVIDE INFORMATION AS WELL AS OUR ACTIVE ZONING PETITION PAGE.

SO WE DID THE MOST, WE FELT LIKE WAS PRACTICAL IN THE SHORT TIME THAT WE HAD, AND REALLY IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR COMMUNICATIONS, UH, DEPARTMENT.

THEY WERE WONDERFUL TO WORK WITH.

SO WE'VE ALSO HAD A NUMBER OF PUBLIC MEETINGS ON THIS ITEM, OUR PRELIMINARY OPEN PRESENTATION, THE JOINT WORK SESSION, A P AND Z WORK SESSION.

AND THIS IS THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING.

SO JUST NOTING THERE HAVE BEEN LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR PUBLIC NOTICE AND PUBLIC COMMENT.

SO WITH THAT, WE HAVE RECEIVED ONE ONLINE RESPONSE, UM, THAT IS IN OPPOSITION.

AND THEN WE RECEIVED 13 OTHER LETTERS AND EMAILS.

UM, THERE WERE FROM SIX TOTAL UNIQUE INDIVIDUALS, UM, FIVE PLUS EIGHT RESPONSES FROM A SINGLE INDIVIDUAL.

THOSE WERE INCLUDED AND SENT OUT TO THE COUNCIL, I BELIEVE EARLIER TODAY.

SO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THESE CHANGES BY A VOTE OF SEVEN TO ZERO AND ISSUED FINDINGS.

UM, AND THERE ARE THOSE TWO SMALL AMENDMENTS, UH, THAT ARE RECOMMENDED BY STAFF AS NOTED IN YOUR COVER SHEET.

AND WITH THAT, I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

THANK YOU, CHRISTINA.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER CARE.

THANK YOU, CHRISTINA.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

I DO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

I MEAN, YOU HAD, YOU HAD MENTIONED IN YOUR PRESENTATION THAT WE'RE NOT ANTICIPATING ANY NONCONFORMING USES BECAUSE OF THESE CHANGES, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

HAVE THE MINIMUM UNIT SIZES CHANGED AT ALL FROM OUR PREVIOUS ZONING? THEY DID.

WE DID HAVE MINIMUM UNIT SIZES IN OUR MULTIFAMILY ONE, TWO, AND THREE ZONING DISTRICT.

WE'VE LOOKED AT CARRYING THOSE ACROSS THE BOARD SINCE NOW MULTIFAMILY HAS ALLOWED SO MANY DIFFERENT PLACES.

THE UNIT SIZE FOR ONE BEDROOM, FOR EXAMPLE, REALLY HASN'T CHANGED.

IT'S JUST APPLYING ACROSS THE ENTIRE CITY.

IT'S APPLYING ACROSS THE BOARD.

OKAY.

UM, ALONG THOSE SAME LINES, THE ZONING CHANGES, ARE THESE BEING EQUALLY APPLIED ACROSS PLANO IN PARTICULAR? I'M THINKING ABOUT ANY OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS.

THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS WE'RE LOOKING AT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS, BECAUSE SOMETIMES THEY MAY HAVE A SPECIFIC HEIGHT STANDARD THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S IN THE BASE ZONING.

SO WE REALLY HAVE TO LOOK AT THE SPECIFIC, THEY MAY HAVE A DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT'S TIED TO IT.

SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THOSE ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS AND ASSESS THE FACTS.

DO YOU, DO YOU FEEL THAT SOME OF THE DISCRETIONARY, UH, RESTRICTIONS WE HAVE IN THERE, LIKE LEAD FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT IS IT DOING FOR PLANO? IS IT PROTECTING US FROM SOME VULNERABILITIES FROM ADDITIONAL COST? I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT ARE THE REAL REASONS BEHIND THOSE? I THINK THE REAL REASONS ARE THAT NOW THE CITY JUST IS LOSING A LOT OF ITS DISCRETION WHEN IT COMES TO THESE CASES.

WE WERE WORKING ON STANDARDS, UH, THROUGH THE COMMUNITY DESIGN PROCESS, BUT WE WEREN'T ABLE TO ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT THOSE BEFORE, UM, THIS CHANGE IN STATE LAW.

AND SO IT'S SUCH A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE TO THE LAND USE PATTERN IN THE CITY.

WE THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO DO SOMETHING EXPEDIENT TO ENSURE A QUALITY OF DEVELOPMENT.

UM, ESPECIALLY LEAD IS PRETTY FOCUSED ON SUSTAINABILITY EFFORTS.

AND IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE SUBSTANTIALLY MORE DENSE DEVELOPMENT IN THE COMMUNITY, I BELIEVE THOSE SUSTAINABILITY STANDARDS BECOME MUCH MORE IMPORTANT.

DO YOU FEEL THAT PLANO IS AT A DIFFERENT POSITION IN TERMS OF, UM, DESIRE TO EN ENTER INTO DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS OR WE, WE STILL LET SOMETHING WE STILL WANT TO DO, I THINK WE STILL DO WANNA ENTER INTO DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS WITH DEVELOPERS AND WE WANNA LOOK AT WHAT ARE THE INDIVIDUAL SITUATIONS, WHAT RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE FOR THAT SPECIFIC PROPERTY? IS IT IN A TIFF, IS IT IN, UH, YOU KNOW, IS THERE POTENTIALLY A PIT? I MEAN, THERE ARE JUST VARIOUS FINANCIAL TOOLS WE COULD USE AS WELL AS THE CITY'S EXISTING FUNDING.

SO TO ME, WE'RE GONNA JUST NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT'S AVAILABLE.

AND I THINK WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE SIDE AND THE NEXT ITEM.

VERY GOOD.

THANKS SO MUCH.

OF COURSE.

COUNCIL MEMBER HORNE.

YES.

THANK YOU, CHRISTINA.

THANKS FOR A GREAT PRESENTATION.

UM, WITH THESE, UH, INTRODUCTIONS OF THE SENATE BILLS AND HOW IT'S REALLY AFFECTING HOW WE HAVE DONE BUSINESS AND HOW WE'RE GONNA DO BUSINESS IN THE FUTURE, REALLY MY CONCERN HERE IS WE WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF A REWRITE, IF YOU RECALL, THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT OUR ZONING SUBDIVISION ORDINANCES AND ALSO OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND TRYING TO HAVE IT TO WHERE THEY MARRY.

YES.

AND WE REMOVE SOME OF THE AMBIGU AMBIGUITY

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THAT LED TO SOME OF DEVELOPERS CONFUSION.

SO I'M LOOKING AT THIS REWRITE AND YOU'RE NOW TELLING ME THAT THAT'S GOING TO COME BACK IN 2026.

HOW ARE WE GOING TO, UM, HELP US HELP THE CITY WITH THE HOUSING NEEDS THAT WE HAVE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE DEVELOPERS TO AVOID THAT CONFUSION AS TO WHAT WE'RE GONNA FOLLOW, HOW WE'RE GONNA GO ABOUT DOING THIS AND STILL BE COMPLIANT WITH STATE LAW.

I MEAN, IS IT JUST GONNA BE PATIENTS AND SEE MAYBE SPAGHETTI THROW UP AGAINST THE WALL AND SEE WHAT STICKS? I MEAN, HOW ARE WE GOING TO GO ABOUT DOING THAT? WELL, I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE'VE DONE SO MUCH OUTREACH IS WE WANTED TO BE VERY TRANSPARENT AND LET ANYONE THAT'S INTERESTED IN DEVELOPMENT KNOW CHANGES ARE COMING.

UM, WE ALSO WERE IN PARALLEL WORKING ON THE CHANGES, SO IT WAS A LITTLE HARD TO COMMUNICATE EXACTLY WHAT THE CHANGES WERE UNTIL WE SORT OF MADE IT THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

UM, ONCE THE PROCESS IS COMPLETE, THEN WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ACTIVELY ON IMPLEMENTATION.

WE HAVE A LONG LIST OF IMPLEMENTATION ITEMS WHERE WE'RE UPDATING THINGS, WE'RE CREATING A WEBSITE, UM, AND WE'RE WORKING ON VARIOUS OUTREACH TO THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE DO WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT.

NOW ON THE REWRITE SIDE, WE'LL HAVE CHANGE ON TOP OF CHANGE ESSENTIALLY, BECAUSE HERE IN WHAT, 18 MONTHS OR SO, WE'RE GONNA HAVE MORE CHANGE.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO PREVENT THAT.

UM, THE BEST THING I THINK WE CAN DO IS, UH, JUST GOOD QUALITY FREQUENT COMMUNICATION.

OKAY.

AND THE SECOND PART, I I QUESTION I HAVE REALLY IS SAFEGUARDING THE CITIZENS, PARTICULARLY WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT SENATE BILL 24 77, WHICH IS, UH, THE REPURPOSING OF OFFICE TOWERS, OFFICE BUILDINGS TO, UM, RESIDENTIAL MM-HMM .

AND IN PARTICULAR, WHEN WE LOOKED AT, UH, THE NEW DEVELOPMENT, WE WERE LOOKING AT OUR HEIGHTS, UM, BASICALLY BEING IN LINE WITH THE CURRENT HEIGHT OF SOME BUILDINGS THAT ARE EXISTING.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A FEW BUILDINGS IN TOWN THAT ARE 15 TO 20 STORIES TALL THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE GOOD CANDIDATES FOR, UH, RESIDENTIAL REUSE, IF YOU WILL.

WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO TO PROTECT THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE SURROUNDING THOSE AREAS FROM BASICALLY THEIR PRIVACY? 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE SETBACKS RIGHT NOW AS WE STAIR STEP TO SETBACKS TO, TO, TO PROTECT THAT PRIVACY.

BUT WITH A HIGH RISE, THAT'D BE VERY CHALLENGING TO DO IS ARE THOSE BUILDINGS WE'RE JUST GONNA SAY, NO, YOU CAN'T TURN IT INTO RESIDENTIAL, OR WHAT ARE WE GONNA, HOW ARE WE GONNA ADDRESS THOSE? I DON'T HONESTLY KNOW THAT THERE IS A WAY THAT WE CAN ADDRESS IT BECAUSE THE STATE HAS TAKEN THOSE TOOLS AWAY FROM US.

OKAY.

SO WELL, OKAY, GREAT.

I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GONNA PROTECT THE CITIZENS THAT ARE ALREADY THERE NEXT TO A HIGH RISE THAT'S ALREADY THERE.

THAT'S ONLY USED DURING THE COURSE OF THE DAY.

RIGHT.

AND NOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE RESIDENCY THERE.

I'M NOT SURE HOW WE GO ABOUT PROTECTING THOSE, THOSE EXISTING RESIDENTS.

I THINK IF A DEVELOPMENT WERE TO COME IN, WE WOULD DO WHAT WE COULD, UH, UNDER THE LAW WITH THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT, UM, WE'VE BEEN GIVEN.

BUT THE LAW IS, IS VERY RESTRICTIVE AND VERY PRESCRIPTIVE, AND WE MUST ALLOW OFFICE CONVERSION.

SO I, I THINK THERE'S LITTLE WE CAN DO, ESPECIALLY ON EXISTING BUILDINGS.

RIGHT.

THANK YOU DEPUTY MAYOR PROTO.

THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

SURE.

UM, THERE'S SO MUCH TO UNPACK IN THIS, AND I'VE TALKED TO A LOT OF PEOPLE AND RECEIVED A LOT OF FEEDBACK AND, AND YOU KNOW, MY FIRST RESPONSE IS REALLY TO WANT TO BE FAIR AND TRANSPARENT, WHICH OBVIOUSLY YOU MAY HAVE REACHED MORE PEOPLE THAN BEFORE YOU GOT TO ME BECAUSE I WAS HEARING FROM OTHER PEOPLE MM-HMM .

BEFORE I HAD READ MY PACKET TO UNDERSTAND ALL OF THE CHANGES THAT WERE HAPPENING.

AND, AND, YOU KNOW, MY KNEE JERK REACTION WAS, WELL, LOOK, IT DOESN'T SEEM FAIR TO PEOPLE THAT HAVE THESE PLANS FOR THEIR PROPERTIES AND EVERYTHING, AND TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE, YOU KNOW, THE RESPONSE HAS BEEN THAT THIS HAS BEEN A KNEE JERK REACTION AND THAT MAYBE WE'RE GOING A LITTLE TOO FAR.

AND, UM, BUT AS I'VE TALKED IT OVER WITH STAFF AND, AND OTHER PEOPLE, I, I REALLY DON'T FEEL THAT I'D BE DOING MY JOB IF I DIDN'T DO EVERYTHING IN MY, MY, YOU KNOW, THE CAPABILITIES TO SAFEGUARD THE, THE GROWTH, THE LITTLE BIT THAT'S LEFT OF THE CITY MM-HMM .

SO EVEN AS, AS PAINFUL AS IT IS TO SEE SOME THINGS THAT, AND THE WAY IT WAS PRESENTED TO ME, AND IT, AND IT FEELS THIS WAY, THAT COMMITMENTS THAT WE MADE, THINGS THAT WE SAID, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THE ORDINANCE, AND THEN SAYING, WELL NOW AS OF SEPTE, AS OF SEPTEMBER 1ST, IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFERENT.

YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S PAINFUL.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK, UM, I THINK IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO AS WE NAVIGATE THIS PROCESS SINCE IT

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IS NEW AND AS WE, UM, DO INVOLVE THE REWRITE COMMITTEE TO, TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING.

AND SO, UM, MR. LYLE, YOU KIND OF BEAT ME TO IT.

THE REASON I BROUGHT UP THE APPEALS PROCESS AT TALKING ABOUT PARKS WAS WHAT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT AND WHAT I HOPE WE CAN FIND A, A WAY TO ADDRESS IS BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH COMING AT US NOW, A WAY FOR DEVELOPERS AND INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE IDEAS OR HAVE REQUESTS MAYBE FOR VARIANCES AS WE'RE FIGURING OUT REALLY HOW WE'RE GONNA NAVIGATE TO HAVE A WAY TO APPROACH, UH, CITY STAFF.

I, I DON'T KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE, IN THE, FOR THE PARK SITUATION, IF, IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET IN FRONT OF THE PARKS AND REC BOARD TO FLOAT SOME IDEAS BECAUSE IT'S, IT IS HARD TO, I MEAN, STAFF HAS THEIR HANDS FULL.

THEY CAN'T NECESSARILY, YOU KNOW, HEAR EVERY, EVERY IDEA, EVERY REQUEST, UM, AND VET EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.

BUT TO MAYBE HAVE ACCESSIBILITY TO MORE OF SOME SORT OF A CITIZEN'S ADVISORY, AND I, I, I REALLY HAVEN'T THOUGHT THIS THROUGH, DON'T HAVE SUGGESTIONS.

I'M KIND OF PUTTING IT OUT THERE FOR STAFF, UM, TO CONSIDER.

UH, BUT WHETHER IT'S FOR PARK FEES AND A DEVELOPER HAS THE INFORMATION THAT IS AVAILABLE ABOUT WHAT THE FEES ARE THAT ARE ALREADY SET ASIDE AND WHAT THE PARK AMENITIES ARE ALREADY IN THE AREA, AND THEY WANT TO MAKE THE ARGUMENT THAT MAYBE A WAIVER SHOULD BE PUT OUT THERE.

I KNOW THAT UP UNTIL 2019, WE HAD IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONES THE ABILITY FOR THE PARK FEE TO BE WAIVED.

MM-HMM.

AND THAT WAS COMPLETELY REMOVED IN 2019.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPERS THAT ARE, I MEAN, SERIOUSLY IMPACTED BY THAT IN AREAS THAT OTHERWISE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY, I, I DO AGREE THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT EVERY SITUATION INDIVIDUALLY.

UM, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A WAY FOR US TO MAKE THAT PROCESS MORE ACCESSIBLE TO, UM, THE INDIVIDUAL, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, AND AS A REMINDER, COUNSEL'S ALWAYS AVAILABLE, PUBLIC COMMENTS, EMAIL, PHONE CALLS IN PERSON.

WE, WE DO TRY TO MAKE OURSELVES AVAILABLE.

UM, BUT JUST SOME, SOME OTHER WAYS TO, UM, TO, AS WE'RE FLUSHING OUT THIS PROCESS AND, UM, AS SO MANY PEOPLE ARE BEING IMPACTED AND NEW DEVELOPERS, THAT THEY, THEY HAVE THAT ABILITY.

AND THEN I ALSO JUST WANTED TO, TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNOW THAT THERE'S, THERE'S A FEW DAYS LEFT STILL TO, TO VEST.

IF YOU HAVE PROPERTY AND YOU WANT IT COVERED UNDER THE PREVIOUS ORDINANCES THAT YOU HAVE UNTIL SEPTEMBER 1ST, IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO DO THAT.

SO, UM, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE THE TRANSPARENCY, THE, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GET OUT THERE.

THERE'S NEVER ENOUGH COMMUNICATION.

THERE'S, OR THERE'S ACTUALLY TOO MUCH A LOT OF TIMES COMING AT US FROM SO MANY DIFFERENT PLACES THAT, UM, YOU MISS WHAT IT IS YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.

SO THAT'S IT.

I JUST, UM, I, I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE TO BRING THIS UP.

I, I'VE STARTED TO BRING IT UP DURING THE PARK FEE COMMENTS.

UM, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MAKING THIS PROCESS BECAUSE IT IS PAINFUL FOR ALL OF US, FOR THE DEVELOPERS, FOR US AS A COUNCIL, FOR US AS A CITY.

AND WE'RE TRYING TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO LET THIS, THE CITY GROW THE WAY THAT WE WANT IT TO, TO, TO GIVE US THE RESULT THAT, THAT WE WANT OUR CITIZENS WANT.

SO I JUST WANNA, YOU KNOW, DO WHAT WE CAN TO MAKE IT AS ASPA AS POSSIBLE.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

SURE.

UH, TWO THINGS THAT YOU MIGHT MIGHT INTEREST YOU.

ONE, IN THE REWRITE PROCESS, WE ARE LOOKING AT A SYSTEM OF ADMINISTRATIVE CONSIDERATIONS THAT WOULD ALLOW, UM, SOME MORE FLEXIBILITY.

UM, AND THEN, SO I THINK THAT'S FORTHCOMING WITH THE REWRITE.

THEN IN THE DESIGN STANDARDS WE HAVE DURING THE SITE PLAN REVIEW PROCESS, P AND Z CAN WAVE OR MODIFY THE REQUIREMENTS WITH SOME CERTAIN FINDINGS.

SO WE'VE TRIED TO BUILD IN SOME KIND OF SAFETY VALVES, I WANNA SAY, IN THIS PROCESS WHERE WE CAN, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WE KNOW EVERYTHING'S NEW.

THANKS, CHRISTINA.

CERTAINLY APPRECIATE IT.

I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WE DO HAVE FOUR SPEAKERS THIS EVENING.

THE FIRST ONE IS WILLIAM PIERCE CRAVENS, AND HE IS COMING IN ON ZOOM.

MR. CRAVENS, IF YOU CAN TURN ON YOUR CAMERA AND GO AHEAD.

HI, MAYOR, UH, CITY STAFF AND COUNCIL MEMBER.

MY NAME IS WILLIAM PIERCE CRAVENS.

I'M THE PROPERTY OWNER AND BUSINESS OWNER AND RESIDENT OF DOWNTOWN PLANO AT 10 28 17TH STREET.

UM, AS A FAMILY DEVELOPMENT COMPANY, WE'VE HAD A LONG HISTORY IN DOWNTOWN PLANO, MAKING MANY LONG-TERM SUBSTANTIAL INVESTMENTS

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IN, IN THE CITY.

UM, COMMEND THE STAFF FOR THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT THEY PUT TOGETHER AND THE SWEEPING CHANGES OF THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE WITH VARIOUS IMPACTFUL, UH, SENATE BILLS.

HOWEVER, I FEEL THAT THERE ARE MANY DISCRETIONARY AMENDMENTS INCLUDED THEREIN, UM, WHICH WILL RESULT IN AN INCREASED COST OF DEVELOPMENT, OR WILL FORCE MANY CURRENT DEVELOPMENTS TO BECOME NON-CONFORMING TO THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE.

UM, I THINK MANY OF THE AMENDMENTS THAT ARE BEING CONSIDERED IN RESPONSE TO SB EIGHT 40 AND AND SB 15, ET CETERA, WILL SUBSTANTIALLY IMPACT FUTURE DESIRE TO DEVELOP COMMERCIAL PROJECTS IN THE CITY OF PLANO, SPECIFICALLY EAST PLANO AND DOWNTOWN, WHICH IS WHERE OUR POOR ACTIVITY LIES MOST NOTABLY, AND SPECIFICALLY, THE PROPOSED DELETION OF SECTION 6.2, POINT A 0.7 FROM THE CITY SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE, UH, IS A MAJOR REVERSAL IN THE CITY'S COMMITMENT TO DOWNTOWN PROPERTY OWNERS, WHEREBY THE CITY COMMITTED TO FUND A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH IMPLEMENTING THE DOWNTOWN STREETS PLAN.

THIS PROPOSED CHANGE HAS HAD NO STAKEHOLDER INVOLVEMENT WHATSOEVER, NO PUBLIC INPUT, AND, UM, MANY PROPERTY OWNERS ARE JUST NOW LEARNING ABOUT THIS.

THE INCLUSION OF THIS SECTION IN THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE, WHICH ONLY APPLIES TO THE DOWNTOWN STREETS PLAN, WAS CRUCIAL TO GAINING PUBLIC SUPPORT WHEN IT WAS PASSED BY CITY COUNCIL IN SEPTEMBER OF 2023.

IN MY VIEW, THIS REVERSAL IN COMMITMENT IMPACTS CURRENT AND FUTURE INVESTMENTS, BOTH LARGE AND SMALL IN DOWNTOWN.

UM, I ALSO FEEL THAT THE, UM, DISCRETIONARY AMENDMENTS THAT WERE MENTIONED, SUCH AS LEAD CERTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS, MINIMUM UNIT SIZING, THE ELIMINATION OF COMPACT PARKING SPACES, INCREASED LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS, INCREASED PARK FEES, HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS, BOTH MINIMUM AND MAXIMUM ET CETERA, ALL INCREASED THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH DEVELOPMENT.

AND I FEEL THEY UNDERMINE 20 SECONDS TRUE INTENT BEHIND THIS BILL.

UM, I, I HOPE THAT YOU RECONSIDER IN REINCORPORATING 6.2 POINT A 0.7 INTO THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE.

UH, AND I HOPE YOU GIVE THE PUBLIC SOME TIME TO RESPOND TO THE MANY DISCRETIONARY AMENDMENTS THAT ARE BEING INCLUDED WITHOUT INPUT FROM STAKEHOLDERS.

THANK YOU.

THE NEXT SPEAKER IS WILLIAM L CRAVENS.

JUAN BARDO, DALLAS, TEXAS, UH, FOR MANY YEARS, AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, UH, HAD QUITE AN INVESTMENT IN PLANO.

UH, I'VE PERSONALLY BEEN IN THE DEVELOPMENT BUSINESS IN PLANO FOR ALMOST 50 YEARS NOW.

MR. CRAVINGS, GET CLOSER TO THE MIC.

OKAY.

PUT IT A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO YOU.

I'VE BEEN THROUGH TODAY PLANS, TOMORROW PLANS, AND YESTERDAY PLANS , AND THROUGHOUT ALL OF THAT, THERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF INPUT TO MAJOR CHANGES IN THE SUBDIVISION PLAN.

UH, AND I UNDERSTAND HOW HARD THE STAFF HAS WORKED AT THIS.

THEY'VE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB PIERCING THROUGH SOME OF THE DIFFICULTIES THAT THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH IN THIS SB EIGHT 40 OR ANY OF THESE NEW, UH, MATTERS.

WHAT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT IS THAT THERE'S A LOT OF UNKNOWNS, AND WE'VE DISCUSSED SEVERAL OF 'EM HERE.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER HORN BROUGHT UP, UH, UNKNOWNS THAT WE HAVE NO IDEA WHERE THESE THINGS MAY END UP LYING, BECAUSE IT'S ALSO NEW TO EVERYONE.

I WOULD HOPE THAT COUNCIL WOULD TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THIS, GET SOME MORE INPUT FROM THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, AND LET THIS THING LIE FOR ABOUT 90 DAYS SO THAT YOU CAN GET THE INPUT FROM THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, WHICH YOU, I DON'T THINK YOU REALLY GOT AT THIS POINT.

NO ONE KNEW WHAT THIS BILL WAS EVEN GONNA PASS UNTIL THE GOVERNOR SIGNED IT.

SO CONSEQUENTLY, THERE WAS LITTLE TO, FOR ANYONE TO ANTICIPATE.

THE STAFF DID AS GOOD

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A JOB AS POSSIBLY ANYONE COULD DO.

I JUST AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF SOME OF THE LANGUAGE THAT MAY BE IN THIS DOCUMENT, AND I HOPE YOU WILL GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT IT SOMEWHERE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD.

I CAN'T IMAGINE HOW IT COULD HURT WHEN ALL YOU REALLY NEED TO DO IS STIPULATE THE CITY IS GOING TO LIVE BY THE LAWS OF THE STATE OF TEXAS AND THE UNITED STATES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, BILL LYLE.

WELL, I MET JUDGE LYLE IN THE HALL, AND I TALKED TO JUDGE MCNULTY AND HE SAID, WE WENT BACK 10 GENERATIONS TO MAKE SURE Y'ALL WEREN'T RELATED.

.

I, UH, IT WAS GOOD TO MEET HIM.

JUST TO GIVE Y'ALL SOME QUICK FACTS HERE.

UM, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, SINCE IT WAS PASSED, THERE HAVE BEEN 15 CASES THAT HAVE REQUIRED FINDINGS.

11 OF THEM HAVE BEEN APPROVED ANYWAY, SO WE HAVEN'T BEEN FOLLOWING THE COMP PLAN ANYWAY.

WE FIND OURSELVES AROUND THE COMP PLAN THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ZONING ACCORDING TO, UM, THERE'S 320 PAGES OF PD LANGUAGE IN PLANO, 320 PAGES.

THERE'S ALMOST AS MUCH PD LANGUAGE, WHICH ARE SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS OR EXCEPTIONS TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE AS THERE IS ZONING ORDINANCE.

IF I HAD TO SUMMARIZE PLANOS RESPONSE, IT WOULD BE WITH MS. DAY.

OUR PLANNING DIRECTOR'S WORDS.

THE REAL REASON IS LOSING DISCRETION.

AND I WOULD CHANGE THE WORD DISCRETION TO CONTROL.

AND I, I THINK THERE'S SOME VALIDITY TO IT.

I THINK THE STATES COME IN AND SAID, WE'RE GONNA PLAY ON YOUR FIELD, AND THE PLANO RESPONSE IS, BUT WE'RE GONNA TAKE OUR BALL AND GO HOME.

THAT'S WHAT IT FEELS LIKE.

MR. KERR, YOU MADE OR CARE, I'M SORRY.

I, UM, YOU MADE A COMMENT IN THE JOINT MEETING ABOUT OPPORTUNITY.

I JUST SEE US TAKING OUR BALL AND GOING HOME.

UM, THE LANGUAGE THAT MR. CRAVENS JUST SPOKE OF, I BELIEVE WAS GIVEN TO YOU ALL, ESSENTIALLY SAYS WE'RE GONNA FOLLOW STATE LAW, THE EHA, THAT THEN BECAME THE EXPRESSWAY CORRIDOR.

THAT THINGS SHOULD HAVE BEEN THROWN OUT A VERY LONG TIME AGO.

IT, IT'S JUST A HINDRANCE THAT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING TO PROTECT ANYONE.

I DID GO TO HOME DEPOT, I CHECKED THE MERV RATINGS ON FILTERS.

MERV 10 IS THE MOST YOU CAN FIND AT A HOME DEPOT, AND THEY'RE VERY, VERY EXPENSIVE RELATIVE TO WHAT PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY GONNA BUY, LIKE 40, $50 FOR THAT FILTER.

AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HIGHER RATINGS THAN THAT.

IT'S JUST NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

UM, YOUR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONER RECENTLY SAID TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, I THINK I KNOW THE DIRECTION COUNCIL WANTS TO GO ON THIS.

DOES HE NOT KNOW THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE AN INDEPENDENT BODY MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU GUYS.

HE'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE GUIDING THEM TO WHAT HE WANT, THINKS Y'ALL ALREADY WANT.

THE ZONING IS BROKEN IN PLANO.

MINIMUM UNIT SIZES SHOULD FOLLOW THE BUILDING CODE.

THAT WOULD BE REAL SIMPLE.

I'LL JUST CLOSE WITH THIS.

THE 90TH LEGISLATIVE SESSION IS JUST A FEW MONTHS AWAY.

THEY HAVE THE BIGGER STICK.

THANK YOU, COREY REKER.

GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS CORY REINER.

I RESIDE AT 1814 N PLACE P OF TEXAS 7 5 0 7 4.

I WANNA START BY THANKING ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND EFFORT SPENT EVALUATING TONIGHT'S PROPOSALS.

THIS PAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION, I HAD THE HONOR OF JOINING MY PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATION, THE TEXAS SOCIETY OF ARCHITECTS IN AUSTIN.

WE MET WITH LAWMAKERS AND ADVOCATED FOR ISSUES IMPORTANT TO OUR PROFESSION.

WE SUPPORTED MANY OF THE ADOPTED PRO HOUSING BILLS, TEXAS ARCHITECT'S POSITION STATEMENT ON HOUSING ATTAINABILITY READS, QUOTE, WE ARE COMMITTED TO SUPPORTING EFFORTS TO IMPROVE HOUSING AFFORDABILITY AND AVAILABILITY, AND TO INCREASE HOUSING OPTIONS FOR ALL TEXANS.

ARCHITECTS ARE UNIQUELY QUALIFIED TO ADVISE ON LAND DEVELOPMENT POLICY AND ADDRESS HOUSING ATTAINABILITY THROUGH INTENTIONAL DESIGN.

BILLS LIKE SB EIGHT 40 ARE A RECOGNITION BY OUR STATE LEADERS THAT HOUSING IS A SERIOUS CONCERN ACROSS TEXAS.

FURTHER, THESE BILLS ARE A CALL TO ACTION FOR US TO ADDRESS THIS TOWN CHALLENGE HEAD ON.

UNFORTUNATELY, THE PROPOSALS BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING DID NOT MEET THE CHALLENGE.

THEY GO BEYOND MERE COMPLIANCE

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WITH STATE LAW, ADDING ADDITIONAL BARRIERS AND COSTS TO NEW HOUSING AND CONSTRUCTION, SUCH AS LEAD, UH, HEIGHT MINIMUMS, NOTICE REQUIREMENTS.

UM, THERE'S NO URGENCY TO UPDATE OUR REGULATIONS BEFORE THE EFFECT OF DATE OF THE STATE LAWS.

THE LAWS ARE SELF-EXECUTING.

IN FACT, THE RIGOROUS ANALYSIS BY STAFF DEMONSTRATES THAT THEY'RE WELL EQUIPPED TO EVALUATE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS UNDER THE NEW REGULATIONS.

AND WITH RESPECT TO THE CURRENT ZONING AND SUBDIVISION ORDINANCES.

IF SOMETHING MUST BE PASSED THIS EVENING, IT SHOULD BE STRICTLY LIMITED TO ALIGNING OUR ORDINANCES WITH STATE LAW.

THE BULK OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES WOULD BE MORE PROPERLY CONSIDERED AS PART OF THE ZONING REWRITE PROCESS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, CONFINE THE COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL.

LET ME, LET ME JUST SAY, WHILE Y'ALL ARE LOOKING TO PUNCH YOUR BUTTON.

UM, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY QUESTION.

SINCE I'VE BEEN A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY, SINCE I'VE BEEN ON P AND Z, SINCE I'VE BEEN THE MAYOR OF THE CITY, I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN PRO HOUSING, WHETHER IT BE DENTS OR WHETHER IT BE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING.

SO, MAKE NO MISTAKE, I HAVE ALWAYS SUPPORTED MORE HOUSING IN THIS CITY.

WHAT SENATE BILL 8 40 15 HAVE DONE IS THEY'VE TAKEN COMPLETE AUTHORITY AWAY FROM WHAT OUR COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE TO SEE.

AND I THINK ONE THING I WILL ALWAYS SAY ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY IS THEY GIVE US FEEDBACK ON WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE IN THIS COMMUNITY.

THIS COUNCIL IS RECEPTIVE TO LISTENING TO WHAT THIS COMMUNITY WANTS.

THE ONE THING THAT HAPPENS ON SEPTEMBER 1ST IS WE NO LONGER HAVE ANY ABILITY TO WHAT WE THINK IS APPROPRIATE IN, IN CERTAIN AREAS.

I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PLANO HAS BEEN WELL KNOWN FOR ALL OVER THE COUNTRY IS OUR CORPORATE COMMUNITY IN COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, WHICH NOW CAN BE TAKEN AWAY BY A DEVELOPER THAT JUST SAYS, OH, YOU KNOW, I'D JUST RATHER BUILD MULTIFAMILY.

THIS.

WE, WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THAT.

WHAT WE DO HAVE CONTROL OVER IS THE QUALITY OF THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT GETS BUILT.

I, I CAN'T ARGUE WITH YOU THAT SOME OF THOSE THINGS MIGHT COST MORE MONEY, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, UH, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE ARE HAVING OUR DOORS KNOCKED DOWN BY PEOPLE THAT ARE WANTING TO BUILD TAX CREDIT AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

SO IF THAT IS THE SOLUTION THAT THE STATE HOUSE CAME UP WITH, I, I'D BE VERY SURPRISED IF, IF THAT TURNED OUT TO BE THAT WAY.

WHAT WE JUST LIKE TO DO IS SET THE BAR ON SEP BEFORE SEPTEMBER 1ST.

WE ALWAYS HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE REASONABLE AND LOWER THOSE, THOSE AREAS THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE WORKING, BUT TO JUST IGNORE IT AND JUST ALLOW WHATEVER SOMEBODY WANTS TO PUT IN ALL OF THOSE AREAS THAT MS. DAY SHOWED US, I THINK IS IRRESPONSIBLE ON OUR PART.

AND SO ALL WE ARE SAYING IS WE WANT TO SET A STANDARD OF A QUALITY OF BUILDING THAT'S BEING BUILT AND MAKE THEM STAND BY THAT QUALITY.

SO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT WE ARE, WE ARE NOT TAKING ANYTHING AWAY FROM THE DEVELOPER'S OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD.

IN FACT, THEY HAVE A MUCH BROADER ABILITY TO BUILD WHEREVER THEY WANT IN ALL THOSE AREAS THAT WE NOTED EARLIER.

THE THING OF IT IS, WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO BE SELF-ASSURED THAT THOSE, UH, DEVELOPMENTS ARE AT THE HIGHEST QUALITY THAT, UH, THAT BELONG IN THE CITY OF PLANO.

WE'RE CERTAINLY NOT, UH, WE HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO BE ABLE TO STOP THOSE, BUT, UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UH, THOSE DEVELOPMENTS, UH, AT A HIGH QUALITY LEVEL.

SO I WILL, UH, PASS THIS ON TO COUNCIL MEMBER HORNE.

THANK YOU.

I GOT YOU.

BUT WORKING, IS IT NOT WORKING? OH, IT'S WORKING.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

UM, I HAD THE PLEASURE AND HONOR TO SERVE ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING

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COMMISSION FOR THREE YEARS PRIOR TO BEING ELECTED TO THE COUNCIL.

AND DURING THAT THREE YEARS, WE WENT AND BASICALLY THROUGH COVID AND CAME UP WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH OF COURSE SOME OF YOU REMEMBER AS MR. CRAVENS BROUGHT UP, REPLACE THE TOMORROW PLAN AND PROBABLY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WILL BE CALLED A FUTURE PLAN IN THE FUTURE.

I'M NOT SURE.

BUT THAT BEING SAID, UH, MIRRORING WHAT THE MAYOR SAID HERE.

THAT COMP PLAN WAS CONSTRUCTED TO PROTECT THE CITIZENS.

WE LISTENED TO THE CITIZENS ABOUT THE APARTMENT ISSUE.

WE LISTENED TO THE CITIZENS THAT ARE SAYING WE DON'T WANT APARTMENTS IN CERTAIN AREAS.

THEY WANTED TO HAVE US BACK TO WHERE WE WERE JUST THE OLD FARMING COMMUNITY.

UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S NOT WHERE WE ARE.

THAT IS NOT WHERE NORTH TEXAS IS RIGHT NOW.

IN COLLIN COUNTY.

I THINK I HEARD THAT WE'RE GROWING ABOUT 1800 PEOPLE PER DAY, 365 DAYS A YEAR.

THEY GOTTA LIVE SOMEWHERE AND THEY WANNA LIVE IN THE CITY OF EXCELLENCE.

OUR EMPLOYERS WOULD LIKE THEIR PEOPLE TO LIVE IN PLANO, SHORTER COMMUTE THAT HELPS WITH THE TRAFFIC.

WE WANT PEOPLE TO LIVE, WORK IN PLAY IN PLANO.

THE STATE BASICALLY MANDATED AND THESE, THESE SENATE BILLS AND TOOK AWAY LOCAL CONTROL.

THEY DID ROE BE GONE, THAT THE STATE HAS ANY TYPE OF FEDERAL INTERFERENCE, BUT THEY IN TURN WANT TO HAVE INTERFERENCE ON LOCAL CONTROL.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE LANGUAGE ON HOW THEY DID IT.

UM, I WOULD RECOMMEND ANYTIME YOU WANNA CHANGE THE WAY THE STATE WENT, LOOK AT WHO YOU VOTED FOR AND MAYBE LOOK FOR ANOTHER CANDIDATE.

BUT THAT'S DOWN THE LINE.

BUT RIGHT NOW, THE CITY'S TRYING TO COME UP WITH A SYSTEM, A A SET OF ORDINANCES THAT'LL BE COMPLIANT WITH THE STATE LAW COME SEPTEMBER 1ST, AS SIMPLE AS THAT.

WILL THERE BE ROOM FOR NEGOTIATIONS, NEGOTIATIONS IN THE FUTURE? ABSOLUTELY.

BUT THE, THE POINTS ABOUT LEAD HAVE TO BE DRIVEN BY THE FACT IS WE NEED TO HAVE BUILDINGS THAT ARE SUSTAINABLE, CONSERVE ENERGY, BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING RESTRICTIONS NOW, OR WE'RE GONNA HAVE LIMITED RESOURCES ON ELECTRICITY AND WATER.

SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE LEAD REQUIREMENTS RIGHT NOW.

SO YES, THE COST TO CONSTRUCT IS GOING TO BE GOING UP, BUT THE COST OF EVERYTHING ELSE IS GOING UP TOO.

SO WE HAVE TO KEEP THOSE THINGS IN MIND.

I THINK ECONOMICS WILL BE DRIVING THE CONVERSION OF OFFICE BUILDINGS TO RESIDENTIAL.

THEY'LL BE THE DRIVER BEHIND, BEHIND ANY TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT ALONG THE EXPRESSWAY CORRIDOR BECAUSE THE PRICE OF LAND IS SO EXPENSIVE THERE.

SO I THINK WE ARE IN A POSITION HERE WHERE IF WE FACE FORWARD, WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION THAT THE DEVELOPERS AND RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF PLANO CAN, UM, BE HAPPY WITH.

BUT IT'S, AGAIN, IT'S SOMEWHAT OUT OF OUR CONTROL BECAUSE THE STATE IS DRIVING THIS.

SO, MR. MAYOR, THAT'S WHERE MY, MY POSITION IS.

COUNCIL MEMBER CARE.

OKAY.

IT LOOKS LIKE I'M ON GREAT.

YOU KNOW, AS I'M, I'M LOOKING AT THIS, I'M TRYING, I'M TRYING TO MARRY A COUPLE OF THINGS TOGETHER.

FIRST OF ALL, I, I WANNA, I WANNA, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A HUGE NEED FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING.

THERE WAS A STUDY THAT THE CITY OF PLANO DID, AND WE SHOWED THERE'S A BIG NEED FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING.

WE ALSO KNOW THAT THERE'S A BIG NEED FOR HOUSING DIVERSITY.

WE NEED DIFFERENT KINDS OF HOUSING, NOT JUST APARTMENTS AND NOT JUST BIG HOMES IN ORDER TO REALLY SATISFY THE NEEDS HERE AND FOR, FOR PEOPLE WHO WORK HERE TO LIVE HERE.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I ALSO KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO PROTECT THE, OUR CITIZENS HERE.

WE HAVE TO PROTECT OUR TAX BASE.

THAT THE, THESE NEW BILLS HAVE INTRODUCED OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO, UM, BE EXPOSED TO A LOT OF COSTS THAT WE HAVE NOT BEEN EXPOSED TO BECAUSE WE WERE ABLE TO GET INTO DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.

I WOULD SAY THAT EVEN THESE THINGS THAT ARE PROPOSED, UH, IN OUR, IN THE ZONING TODAY THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, THIS DOESN'T PRECLUDE ANY OF THAT DEVELOPERS CAN COME TALK TO US.

WE'RE, WE'RE READY.

WE'RE READY FOR BUSINESS, WE'RE READY TO NEGOTIATE, WE'RE READY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GONNA WORK.

BUT I TELL YOU, IT HAS TO WORK FOR EVERYBODY.

IT HAS TO WORK FOR THE STATE, IT HAS TO WORK FOR THE CITY OF PLANO AND OUR CITIZENS.

IT HAS TO WORK FOR THE DEVELOPER

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AND ALSO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GONNA LIVE THERE.

SO THERE'S A LOT TO BALANCE.

YOU KNOW, I'M NOT TRYING TO OVERSIMPLIFY ANYTHING HERE, BUT I, I THINK THAT AS WE LOOK AT THIS, AS WE PROTECT THE CITY SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD, KNOWING THAT THERE'S POTENTIAL CHANGES COMING DOWN THE, THE PIKE, THAT WE'LL BE IN A BETTER, UH, PLACE ONCE WE LEARN MORE ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH STATE LAW AND POTENTIAL LAWSUITS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

I THINK THAT, UH, WHAT I'M HEARING TODAY IN MY MIND MAKES SENSE THAT IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD MEASURE FOR NOW.

SEPTEMBER ONE IS COMING AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT WE HAD INITIATED, BUT I THINK IT, IT DOES A, A GOOD BALANCE OF PROTECTING THE CITIZENS AS WELL AS, UH, GIVING THE DEVELOPERS REALLY SOME CONSISTENCY HERE.

THEY, THEY KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT FROM US, AND, UH, WE HAVE SOME GOOD CHANGES COMING DOWN THE WAY.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER LEVINE.

THANK, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UM, I THINK IT'S BEEN KIND OF, UH, SAID THAT, UH, APARTMENTS CONSTRUCTION IN PLANO IS THE SINGLE MOST CONTROVERSIAL TOPIC WE HAVE.

UM, I'VE BEEN ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS ARGUMENT, AND IN SEEKING THE VERY BEST DEVELOPMENT OPTIONS FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, WE'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONSIDER, UH, TO ALLOW APARTMENTS, NOT TO ALLOW APARTMENTS, TO ALLOW MANY APARTMENTS, TO ALLOW SOME APARTMENTS, ET CETERA.

UM, NOW THAT CONSIDERATION AND CHOICE IS REALLY NOT SOMETHING WE HAVE TO WORK WITH.

UM, SO YOU'VE, MANY FOLKS HERE HAVE ASKED FOR TIME TO, THAT WE SHOULD TAKE TIME TO PROVIDE, UH, TIME FOR INPUT, UH, REFLECTION, CONSIDERATION BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD, UM, ON, ON CHANGES.

WELL, I, I THINK, UM, WE DO NEED TO PAUSE FOR REFLECTION ON, UH, THESE CHANGES, UH, THAT THE LEGISLATURE HAS, UH, IMPOSED ON US.

UM, BUT I, I HAVE TO AGREE WITH SOME OF THE OTHERS WHO SAY THAT WE DO NEED TO HAVE SOME PRELIMINARY, UH, CHANGES IN PLACE TO, UH, PROTECT OUR CITIZENS WHO, UH, ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE PROLIFERATION OF, UH, MULTIFAMILY IN OUR COMMUNITY.

SO, UM, WHAT I WOULD SAY IS, UH, I WOULD ENCOURAGE, UH, OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO DO EVERYTHING THEY CAN, UH, TO SEEK INPUT NOW, UH, AND, UH, TO, UH, WRAP AS MUCH, UH, OF THAT INPUT INTO, UH, THE CHANGES THAT THEY WILL BE, UH, PRESENTING TO US, UH, IN THE FUTURE, UH, SO THAT WE CAN, UH, TRULY, UH, EXPLORE, UH, HOW BEST TO, UH, PROVIDE, UH, ANY CONTROLS THAT WE CAN, UH, DEVELOP, UH, FOR OUR, OUR USE AND CONSIDERATION IN THE FUTURE.

BUT IT IS NECESSARY FOR US TO HAVE SOMETHING NOW, UH, IN EFFECT BEFORE, UH, ANY OPPORTUNITY IS PRESENTED TO, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER DOWNS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UM, THROUGHOUT THE CONVERSATION OF ALL OF THESE CHANGES IN BILLS, I, I'VE LISTENED TO THE INPUT OF EVERY CITIZEN AND THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY ABOUT HOW CHALLENGING THIS REALLY IS.

UM, AND WE'RE IN AN UNTENABLE SITUATION THAT IS DRIVEN BY THE STATE LEGISLATURE, EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN SAID HERE, FROM THE MAYOR TO COUNCILMAN CARE, TO COUNCILMAN HORNE AND COUNCILMAN LEVINE, I AGREE WITH, AND I SIMPLY JUST WANNA SAY ONE THING FROM MY POSITION.

ARTICLE 11, SECTION FIVE OF THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION TELLS US THAT A CITY CANNOT HAVE ORDINANCES THAT ARE NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW.

AND AS A LAWYER, I SIT HERE AND I SAY THAT WE MUST COMPLY WITH THE STATE LAW, AND WE MUST ALSO BALANCE THAT WITH THE NEEDS OF ALL OF OUR CITIZENS.

AND WHAT WE'RE SEEKING TO DO HERE TONIGHT STRIKES THAT BALANCE, KNOWING THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD TO CONTINUE TO ANALYZE THIS OVER TIME AND READDRESS THE CONCERNS AS THEY ARE APPROACHED TO US.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

PROTO.

WELL, I, I FIGURE EVERYBODY SAID SOMETHING, SO I PROBABLY SHOULD TOO.

AND MY TWO SENSES, I MOVED TO, UM, TO APPROVE THE AGENDA ITEM, UH, ONE, ONE PUBLIC HEARING.

OH, YEAH.

AGENDA ITEM ONE.

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THAT, THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY.

THANK YOU, MARIA.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? DID YOU SAY THAT? YES, SIR.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, SO I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND.

DID YOU GET THAT, LISA? ALRIGHT, PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION PASSES EIGHT TO ZERO.

AND MAYOR, BEFORE WE MOVE ON, WE NEED TO DO FINDINGS FORMS. OKAY.

DO WE HAVE TO DO FOR ALL THREE ITEMS ON, OR JUST THIS NUMBER ONE? OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL TAKE A, UH, FIVE MINUTE RECESS.

FIRST THREE ARE ALL

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PLAINTIFF,

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CINDY COUNCIL IS RECONVENED AND OPEN SESSION.

ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.

LET'S MOVE ON TO

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Public Hearing and consideration of an Ordinance as requested in Subdivision Ordinance Amendment 2025-001 to amend the Introduction and Procedural Overview, Article I (General Provisions), Article II (Definitions), Article III (Platting Procedures), Article IV (Assurance for Completion and Maintenance of Improvements), Article V (Requirements for Public Improvements, Reservation and Design), Article VI (Participation and Escrow Policies), and Article VII (Replatting Procedures) of the Subdivision Ordinance of the City, Ordinance No. 2017-11-4, as heretofore amended, as a result of recent state legislative actions and to ensure compliance with state law; and providing a penalty clause, a repealer clause, a savings clause, a severability clause, a publication clause, and an effective date.

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ITEM TWO ON THE ITEMS, SORRY.

ITEM NUMBER TWO, CONSI PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE AS REQUESTED IN SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE AMENDMENT 2025 DASH ONE, TO AMEND THE INTRODUCTION AND PROCEDURAL OVERVIEW, ARTICLE ONE, GENERAL PROVISIONS, ARTICLE TWO, DEFINITIONS, ARTICLE THREE, PLATTING PROCEDURES, ARTICLE FOUR, ASSURANCE FOR COMPLETION AND MAINTENANCE OF IMPROVEMENTS, ARTICLE FIVE, REQUIREMENTS FOR PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS, RESERVATION AND DESIGN, ARTICLE SIX, PARTICIPATION AND ESCROW POLICIES.

ARTICLE SEVEN, RELOTTING PROCEDURES OF THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE OF THE CITY, ORDINANCE NUMBER 2017 DASH 11 DASH FOUR AS HERE TO FOR AMENDED AND TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH STATE, OOPS, AS A RESULT OF RECENT STATE LEGISLATIVE ACTIONS.

AND TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW, PROVIDING A PENALTY CLAUSE, A REPEAL CLAUSE, A SAVINGS CLAUSE, A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, AND A PUBLICATION CLAUSE, AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

ALL RIGHT, SO THE NEXT ITEM WE HAVE ARE CHANGES TO THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE.

UH, SO I WILL DISCUSS THOSE BRIEFLY.

FIRST, THE CHANGES TO SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT.

UM, WE'VE CREATED THIS DEFINITION OF NARROW RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WITH A DEFINITION OF THOSE LOTS BEING LESS THAN 50 FEET, AND UNIQUE STANDARDS RELATING TO THAT STYLE OF DEVELOPMENT.

SO REAR ACCESS FROM AN ALLEY WOULD BE REQUIRED, A WIDER ALLEY IN SUPPORT OF OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT FOR THESE KIND OF TIGHTER, UM, SUBDIVISIONS, UTILIZING MIXED USE STREET DESIGNS.

SO THERE'S ON STREET PARKING TREES TO PROTECT PEDESTRIANS AND WIDER SIDEWALKS, AND THEN A SMALLER BLOCK LENGTH BECAUSE OF THE DENSITY.

ADDITIONALLY, WE WANTED TO ENSURE THAT THE PLAT VACATIONS DO NOT, UM, OR STILL COUNT AS HAVING A PLAT ON RECORDS SO THAT PEOPLE DON'T UTILIZE PLAT VACATION AS A MEANS OF ACCESSING THE BENEFITS OF SB 15 WHEN THAT DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE THE INTENT.

MULTIFAMILY AND MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, SIMILAR STANDARDS WITH THE BLOCK LENGTH AND THE STREET DESIGN, BUT THE ONE CHANGE HERE REALLY BEING THE REQUIREMENT FOR AN INTERNAL STREET NETWORK FOR LARGER PROJECTS, UM, TO ENSURE THERE'S ADEQUATE CIRCULATION THROUGH THE SITE.

SO ONE OF THE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES THAT I THINK WE'VE ALL HEARD A LOT OF FEEDBACK ON ARE THE INFRASTRUCTURE ANALYSIS.

SO THIS, THESE CHANGES WOULD IMPLEMENT NEW SYSTEMS WHERE WE WOULD REQUIRE ENGINEERING PLANS, EARLY ENGINEERING PLANS WITH OUR CONCEPTUAL AND PRELIMINARY, UH, PLANNING DOCUMENTS THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO START LOOKING AT UTILITIES, DRAINAGE, AND OTHER RELATED ITEMS EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS, WE WOULD REQUIRE A WATER AND SEWER STUDY, AND THIS WATER AND SEWER STUDY WOULD ALLOW US TO START ANALYZING THE CAPACITY.

I THINK THIS IS A BENEFIT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY IN THAT IT ALLOWS THEM TO VEST CAPACITY IN THE PROJECT.

SO ONCE THEY DO THIS STUDY, THEY KNOW THEY NEED, YOU KNOW, A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF GALLONS, THEY CAN HAVE THOSE GALLONS.

WE KIND OF SET IT ASIDE AND THEY CAN VOLUNTARILY FOREFOOT IT, BUT OTHERWISE, UM, IT, UH, IS THEIRS TO UTILIZE AND THAT PROCESS DOESN'T EXIST TODAY.

SO, UM, THERE IS A NEW FEE, UH, RELATED TO THIS IN ITEM FOUR THAT I WILL DISCUSS LATER.

SO THIS DOES REMOVE REFERENCES TO CITY FACILITY PARTICIPATION, UM, THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

SO WE DON'T WANT THERE TO BE A PERCEPTION OF FINANCIAL OBLIGATION ON THE PART OF THE CITY, UM, BECAUSE WE'RE JUST NOT SURE OF THE IMPACTS BECAUSE OF THE, UH, KIND OF CHANGES TO THE PLANNING LANDSCAPE THAT COME ALONG WITH THE, UH, LAND USE CHANGES FROM THE BILLS.

SO, CITY PARTICIPATION IS STILL POSSIBLE.

UM, IT JUST WILL LOOK, WE'LL LOOK AT IT THROUGH THE LENS OF A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT CONSISTENT WITH THE LAW, BASED ON AVAILABLE FUNDING AND OUR ENGINEERING ANALYSIS.

WE'VE ALSO PROVIDED SOME ADMINISTRATIVE CLARIFICATIONS ON HOW WE DEAL WITH PARK IMPROVEMENT AGREEMENTS THAT WERE NEEDED IN THE ORDINANCE.

A FEW OTHER CHANGES ABOUT NOTICE REQUIREMENTS THAT, UM, WE DISCUSSED, UH, RE UH, TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC KNOWS

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WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THESE PROJECTS.

AND TYING IT TO THE PLATING PROCESS.

WE'VE PROVIDED DEFINITIONS FOR ADMINISTRATIVE CLARITY.

WE'RE MAKING SOME ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATES TO OUR NOTES.

AND, UM, ONE THING WE DID NOT FIT INTO THIS UPDATE WAS STORM WATER MITIGATION CHANGES.

THOSE WILL NEED TO BE INCLUDED WITH THE REWRITE 'CAUSE IT WAS JUST TOO MUCH TO MANAGE IN THE TIMEFRAME.

SO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND THIS BY A VOTE OF SEVEN TO ZERO, AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALL RIGHT.

I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WE DO HAVE A FEW SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.

THE FIRST ONE IS WILLIAM L CRAVENS.

MY NAME'S WILLIAM L CRAVENS.

I LIVE AT 42 41 BORDEAUX, DALLAS, TEXAS.

THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE HERE IS THE PRESERVATION OF SECTION 6.2, POINT A 0.7 OF THE, UH, PLANO SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE IN WHICH THE CITY HAS RESPONSIBILITY, UH, IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA FOR STREET IMPROVEMENTS.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT MANY OF US HAVE DEPENDED ON SINCE IT WAS PASSED IN 2023, AND I'D LIKE TO SEE IT PUR PRESERVED IN THE NEW SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE, IF THAT IS IN ALL POSSIBLE.

UH, IT'S, IT'S A MAJOR, UH, COMPONENT OF OUR COST, UH, WHICH TO THIS POINT HAD BEEN, BEEN, UH, ANTICIPATED AS TO BE SHARED BY THE CITY.

SO I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO CONSIDER LEAVING THOSE PROVISIONS IN THE ORDINANCE AS IT GOES FORTH.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, BILL LYLE.

GOOD EVENING AGAIN, COUNSEL, JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON THIS TOPIC, THIS, UH, JUST A LITTLE HISTORY HERE.

UM, THIS DOWNTOWN STREET GRID GOT PUT BACK TOGETHER ON A MAP.

IN OTHER WORDS, WHERE ROADS NOW NO LONGER EXIST, THEY'RE ON A MAP TO EXIST AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.

DOWNTOWN PLANO CONSISTS OF A LOT OF SMALL PARCELS OF LAND.

SOME OF THESE ROADS RUN THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF EXISTING BUSINESSES THAT ARE OPERATING TODAY.

IT'S SIMPLY NOT POSSIBLE FOR A DEVELOPER TO BUY THAT LAND AND THE BUILDING AND RELOCATE THE BUSINESS AND THEN DONATE OR BUILD THE ROAD.

IT, IT'S, IT'S AN OBSTACLE THAT WON'T BE OVERCOME.

AND SO ALL IT DOES BY TAKING THIS OUT OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE IS INHIBIT THE REDEVELOPMENT OF DOWNTOWN PLANO, WHICH IS WHAT HAS BEEN SAID WAS A PRIORITY, WHICH IS WHY THIS GOT PUT INTO THE MAP TO BEGIN WITH.

THE PROVISION THAT HE JUST REFERENCED, AND I WON'T GO THROUGH THE LOCATION OF IT, IS ONLY FOR DOWNTOWN PLANO.

IT, IT, IT'S SPECIFICALLY FOR HERE, IT WAS SPECIFICALLY PUT IN FOR THIS, THE LAST COUNCIL BEFORE THE ELECTION IN MAY, GAVE DIRECTION TO FUND THIS.

I'M LOOKING AT AN EMAIL FROM YOU, MARK ON JANUARY 28TH.

HI, BILL COUNCIL GAVE DIRECTION FOR THE DOWNTOWN RIGHT OF WAY TO BE FUNDED FROM SOURCES OTHER THAN BONDS.

THEY WANTED STAFF TO LOOK AT TIF FUNDS AND CAPITAL MAINTENANCE, WHICH WILL BE DONE AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS.

THAT BUDGET PROCESS IS NOW, AND IT'S NOT HAPPENING.

AND I'M GUESSING THAT'S BECAUSE THE STATE DID THIS AND Y'ALL WERE LOOKING AT TAKING IT OUT.

BUT BECAUSE THIS IS SPECIFIC TO DOWNTOWN, IT SHOULDN'T COME OUT.

THERE'S NO WAY THAT DOWNTOWN REDEVELOPS WITHOUT IT.

AND THE OTHER THING IS, NO ONE IS GOING TO COME IN AND FORCE THE CITY OF PLANO TO DO SOMETHING THEY DON'T WANT TO DO.

ANYWAY.

YOU COULD LEAVE IT IN AS JUST A GESTURE OF GOODWILL TOWARDS THE DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY THAT YOU PROMISED THIS TO LESS THAN TWO YEARS AGO.

AND THERE'S NO HARM.

THERE'S NO HARM IN IT AT ALL.

SO I'LL LEAVE IT WITH THAT.

THANK YOU.

WE DID HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL SPEAKER, WILLIAM PIERCE CRAVENS, WHO WAS ON ZOOM, BUT IS NO LONGER THERE, AND I DON'T SEE HIM IN THE AUDIENCE.

SO LAST CALL THERE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, CONFINE THE COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL.

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COUNCIL MEMBER HORNE.

YES.

UH, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UM, UH, MR. CRAVENS, WE HEAR YOU, BILL, WE HEAR YOU ON THIS.

AGAIN, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER A, UH, AN ORDINANCE THAT STILL WILL BE COMPLIANT WITH STATE LAW, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, UH, ADDRESS THE FINANCES FOR THE STATE.

I MEAN, FOR THE CITY.

YOU KNOW, WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BUDGET PROCESS AND WE ARE STRUGGLING COLLECTIVELY AS TO HOW WE'RE GOING TO FUND OTHER SERVICES FOR, UM, THE CITY OF EXCELLENCE.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, I STILL THINK THERE'S GONNA BE ROOM FOR NEGOTIATIONS WHEN WE HAVE DEVELOPMENT DOWNTOWN AND THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

THAT IS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.

THIS ORDINANCE DOES NOT SAY WE WILL NOT FUND STREET IMPROVEMENTS AND INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS, BUT IT SAYS THAT WE WILL, UH, USE THAT BASICALLY AS AN OPTION, IF YOU WILL, WHEN WE HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, AND THEY'LL BE SERVED ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

I KNOW THAT INTRODUCES UNCERTAINTY TO DEVELOPERS.

YES, THERE'S A LOT OF UNCERTAINTIES, DEVELOPERS FACE EVERY DAY, BUT I THINK THROUGH NEGOTIATIONS AND DISCUSSIONS WITH OUR, OUR PLANNING AND WITH THE HELP OF OUR CITY MANAGER, THAT WE CAN COME TO SOME RESOLUTION OF HOW WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO.

OKAY.

YOU HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

OKAY.

JULIE, GO AHEAD.

UH, UH, THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER HORN.

I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU SAID.

UM, I DO THINK THERE'S HARM DONE TO LEAVE IT THERE.

I THINK THAT ONCE WE HAD THE NEW STATE LAW PASSED, WE REALIZED WE HAD TO MAKE A CHANGE.

AND SO WE GAVE NOTICE AS MUCH NOTICE AS WE COULD.

BUT I WOULD FEEL WORSE ABOUT LEAVING AN ORDINANCE IN PLACE AND THEN COMING BACK AND SAYING, OH, WE'RE NOT GONNA STICK TO WHAT IT SAYS IN WRITING.

I THINK THAT OPENS US UP FOR LIABILITY.

SO, UM, OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS, IDEAS.

I DON'T THINK THIS CONVERSATION'S OVER YET.

I THINK AS, AS COUNCIL MEMBER HORN SAID, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO BE RESPONSIBLE AND LOOK AT, SO I HAVE A MOTION.

AND SECOND TO, UH, APPROVE ITEM NUMBER TWO, PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION PASSES EIGHT TO ZERO.

[(3)  

Consideration of an Ordinance to amend Section 3 (Special Streets and Accessways) and Section 5 (Street Design) of the Street Design Standards, Ordinance No. 2023-9-11, as heretofore amended, pertaining to recent state legislative actions; and providing a penalty clause, a repealer clause, a savings clause, a severability clause, a publication clause, and an effective date.

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NEXT ITEM, ITEM NUMBER THREE, CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND SECTION THREE, SPECIAL STREETS AND ACCESS WAYS.

AND SECTION FIVE STREET DESIGNS OF THE STREET DESIGN STANDARDS.

ORDINANCE NUMBER 2023 DASH NINE DASH 11 AS HERETOFORE AMENDED PERTAINING TO RECENT STATE LEGISLATIVE ACTIONS AND PROVIDING A PENALTY CLAUSE, A REPE CLAUSE, A SAVINGS CLAUSE, A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, A PUBLICATION CLAUSE, AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THIS ITEM ADDS STANDARDS TO THE SUBDIVISION, I'M SORRY, TO THE STREET DESIGN STANDARDS THAT RELATE SPECIFICALLY TO THE CHANGES THAT YOU JUST APPROVED IN THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE.

IT GIVES THE STANDARD FOR THAT WIDER ALLEY, UM, GIVES SAME DIRECTION WITH REGARD TO BLOCK LENGTH AND MIXED USE STREET DESIGN.

SO IT JUST ALIGNS THIS DOCUMENT WITH THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS BY A VOTE OF SEVEN TO ZERO.

I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

COUNCIL MEMBER HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COUNCIL MEMBER HORN? YES.

UH, IN PARTICULAR, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS, UH, THESE, THESE NEW STREET DESIGNS, REALLY FOR DECATUR TO THOSE, UM, AREAS WHERE WE MAY HAVE SMALLER LOT SIZES AND THE SMALLER LOT SIZES WOULD HELP US WITH SUPPLYING HOUSING TO SAY FOR THE WORKFORCE.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

AND SO THE BLOCKS WE'RE LOOKING AT ARE GONNA BE NO LONGER THAN 600 FEET, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, ON, UH, I GUESS IT WAS F UH, F SIZE STREETS WE'RE GOING TO BE, HAVE WIDE ENOUGH WALKS FOR BIKES AND PEDESTRIANS, AND THEN THE SMALLER STREETS, THE G WERE JUST BASICALLY PEDESTRIAN AND STILL JUST A STANDARD TWO CARS PASSING, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

NOW, WHAT ABOUT THE ALLEY SIZE? WHAT WERE WE LOOKING AT ON THAT? SO THE ALLEY SIZE, THE IDEA

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HERE IS TO PROVIDE A LITTLE MORE WIDTH IN THE ALLEY BECAUSE IT'S SO TIGHT WITH THE NUMBER OF DRIVEWAYS THAT WOULD BE ACCESSED, IT'LL PROVIDE SPACE FOR CARTS.

MM-HMM .

WHERE SOMETIMES THAT'S DIFFICULT TO PROVIDE, ESPECIALLY THE NORMAL KIND OF NOTCH OUTS THAT YOU SEE IN SUBDIVISIONS IN PLANO WHERE PEOPLE PUT THEIR CARTS IN THE ALLEY.

IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT, IN A TIGHTER DEVELOPMENT, IT'S HARDER TO FIT IN A DRIVEWAY AND THE TRASH CARTS.

SO JUST ALLOWING US TO DO ADEQUATE SERVICE IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WITH AN ADDITIONAL THREE FEET OF RIGHT OF WAY.

NOW A QUESTION I HAVE, I KNOW YOU SAID, UH, YOU WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO HAVE IMPROVE THE THROUGH FARE, IF YOU WILL, OF TRAFFIC.

THAT'S WHY WE WENT TO THE 600 FOOT LENGTH BLOCKS.

MM-HMM .

WAS THAT REALLY GONNA ENHANCE THAT PASSAGE BY REDUCING IT FROM THE 1200 FOOT LENGTH? BECAUSE I MEAN, IF WE'RE SITTING THERE LOOKING AT THAT, THAT SECTION THAT WE'RE HAVING THERE COULD HAVE TWO MORE HOUSING.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU JUST LOOK AT THE LENGTH OF THE STREET, IT COULD, THE 1200 FOOT BLOCK LENGTH MAX IS REALLY DESIGNED FOR WIDER LOTS THAT ARE MORE OR MORE TRADITIONAL, 7,000, 9,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS THAT DEVELOPED IN PLANO THROUGH THE SEVENTIES, EIGHTIES, AND INTO THE NINETIES.

BUT AS YOU GET THESE TIGHTER DEVELOPMENTS, UM, IT'S, WE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS AND CONNECTIVITY AND HAVING THOSE SMALLER LOTS REALLY FIT WITH THE HOUSING SIZE.

THE MORE DENSE YOU HAVE, UH, THINGS, THE KIND OF SMALLER THE BLOCK IN A, A MORE, UM, FINE FABRIC THAT YOU WANT OF THE CITY TO WHERE THERE'S MORE CONNECTIVITY AND MORE ACCESS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WE DO HAVE SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.

UM, THE FIRST IS WILLIAM PIERCE CRAVENS.

WE'LL CALL THAT ONE OUT AGAIN.

AND THEN WILLIAM L CRAVENS.

OKAY.

AND BILL LAW COMMENT.

OKAY, WE'RE DONE.

WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, CONFINE THE COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL.

OKAY.

MR. MAYOR, MOTION TO APPROVE.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE, RIGHT? YEAH.

SECOND.

OKAY.

I HAVE A MOTION, A SECOND TO APPROVE.

UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE, PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION PASSES EIGHT TO ZERO.

[(4)  

Consideration of an Ordinance to amend Section 16-19 – Fees for zoning, rezoning and other miscellaneous fees, of Article II – Fees Generally, of Chapter 16, Planning and Development, of the Code of Ordinance of the City of Plano; establishing new fees for Notices and Water & Sewer Studies; providing a repealer clause, a severability clause, a publication clause, and an effective date.

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ITEM FOUR.

ITEM NUMBER FOUR, CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND SECTION 16 DASH 19 FEES FOR ZONING, REZONING, AND OTHER MISCELLANEOUS FEES OF ARTICLE TWO FEES, GENERALLY OF CHAPTER SIX, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF PLANO, ESTABLISHING NEW FEES FOR NOTICES AND WATER AND SEWER STUDIES, PROVIDING A REPEAL CLAUSE, A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, A PUBLICATION CLAUSE, AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

ALRIGHT, ASSOCIATED WITH THE CHANGES WE'VE JUST CONSIDERED IN ITEMS ONE THROUGH THREE, WE HAVE THESE, UH, COUPLE OF FEES.

UM, FIRST, OUR NOTICES, UH, BECAUSE OF THE NEW NOTIFICATIONS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING, WE'VE JUST MIMICKED THE EXISTING, UH, ZONING APPEAL FEE AT $5 PER NOTICE.

WE THINK THAT COVERS OUR COSTS, ESSENTIALLY TO ALLOW THE CITY TO RECOUP THE COST FOR MAILING THOSE NOTICES.

AND THEN A WATER AND SEWER STUDY FEE.

AGAIN, THIS IS BASED ON, UH, COST RECOVERY, WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, PROVIDING FUNDS TO THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT TO, UM, SUPPORT THEIR OUTSIDE CONSULTANT THAT THEY WILL BE UTILIZING, UM, TO ASSESS THE WATER AND SEWER STUDY THAT'S PROVIDED BY THE DEVELOPER.

THAT IS THE END OF THE FEE PROPOSAL, AND THAT DID NOT GO TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, UM, BUT IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR CHRISTINA COUNCIL MEMBER CARE? YEAH, JUST ONE QUESTION.

DOES THE $10,000, IS THAT A A HUNDRED PERCENT FEE? RE I MEAN COST RECOVERY OR WHAT PERCENTAGE? I, I BELIEVE IT IS, YES.

CALEB IS NODDING YES.

.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER ILLA? YEAH, I HAD A QUESTION ON $10,000.

HOW DID WE GET TO THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT? UH, IT WAS BASED ON ENGINEERING'S EXPERIENCE IN ORDERING THESE TYPE OF DOCUMENTS PREVIOUSLY.

THANK YOU.

[01:45:01]

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WE HAVE THE SAME THREE SPEAKERS.

UM, MR. LYLE, WATER AND SEWER STUDY FEES? I'M, I'M GUESSING THIS IS TIED TO A ZONING CASE, MS. DAY? NO.

TO A DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

TO A DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

CHANGES TO THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE.

NEVERMIND.

I WASN'T SURE WHAT IT WAS TIED TO.

THANK YOU.

WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, CONFINE THE COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL.

SORRY, BOB, I, I MOVE.

WE ACCEPT ITEM FOUR AS PRESENTED.

MR. MAYOR, I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

OKAY.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ACCEPT ITEM NUMBER FOUR, PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION PASSES.

EIGHT TO ZERO.

THANK YOU.

NUMBER FIVE,

[(5)  Public Hearing on the FY 2025-26 Recommended Budget, Proposed Community Investment Program (CIP), and Proposed Ad Valorem Tax Rate.]

ITEM FIVE, ITEM NUMBER FIVE, PUBLIC HEARING ON THE FISCAL YEAR 20 25, 26, RECOMMENDED BUDGET, PROPOSED COMMUNITY INVESTMENT PROGRAM AND PROPOSED ADD VALOREM TAX RATE.

GOOD EVENING.

THIS IS A, UH, THIS, I'M KAREN RUDD WHITLEY, BUDGET DIRECTOR.

THIS IS YOUR, UH, SECOND PUBLIC HEARING ON THE BUDGET, WHICH TOTALS 788 MILLION IN THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT PROGRAM, TOTALS 319 MILLION.

AND WE'RE ABOUT TO HAVE DISCUSSION ON THE TAX RATE.

YOU DO HAVE A POSTED TAX RATE RIGHT NOW, WHICH SERVES AS A TAX CEILING, UH, 44.06 CENTS.

I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.

I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

JUST OPEN AND CLOSE.

YEAH, THERE YOU GO.

[(6)  

Discussion and Direction regarding the Proposed Ad Valorem Tax Rate.

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ITEM NUMBER SIX, DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION REGARDING THE PROPOSED ADVIL OR ARM TAX RATE.

OKAY.

WE NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON SEPTEMBER 8TH.

WE WILL BE BRINGING BACK THE OPERATING BUDGET, UH, ADOPTION, THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT PROGRAM ADOPTION.

YOU WILL ALSO DECIDE THE TAX RATE ON THAT NIGHT, AND WE WILL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AGAIN ON THE TAX RATE.

AND RATIFICATION OF THE TAX RATE INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSED, UH, BUDGET WAS 41.76.

WE CAME BEFORE Y'ALL A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.

WE HAD TO POST A NOTICE IN THE PAPER WITH YOUR TAX CEILING, MEANING YOU CANNOT GO OVER THAT RATE.

HOWEVER YOU CAN GO DOWN.

WE WANTED TO START THE DISCUSSION FOR US TO BRING BACK ALL THOSE ORDINANCES ON SEPTEMBER 8TH.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I'D JUST LIKE TO ADD IN A, A FEW QUICK THINGS.

UM, THERE IS, UH, ONE MATTER THAT'S STILL OUTSTANDING THAT WE HAVE WITH REGARD TO, WITH DOWNTOWN, UH, MAMMOTH JACK FESTIVAL, WHICH WE, UH, HAVE NOT GOTTEN DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL YET ON.

ADDITIONALLY, UM, THE LEGISLATURE IS STILL HARD AT WORK.

UM, AND PART OF THAT WORK IS, UH, LOOKING TO POTENTIALLY LOWER THE, UM, UH, VOTER APPROVED RATE FROM 3.5% DOWN TO ONE.

UH, BUT THERE, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'D BE SOME CARVE OUTS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY IN THAT, BUT IT'S, IT'S, WE'RE STILL KIND OF WAITING TO SEE HOW THAT WORKS THROUGH CONFERENCE COMMITTEE.

UM, AS PART OF THAT, UM, I'VE TALKED WITH SEVERAL COUNCIL MEMBERS AND FELT LIKE IT WAS IMPORTANT TO SHOW THE IMPACT OF SEVERAL ELEMENTS.

SO YOU HAVE A CHART IN FRONT OF YOU, UM, THAT REALLY STARTS AT, AT THE VOTER APPROVED RATE.

AND THAT'S NOT WHERE YOU HAVE TO START.

YOU CAN START WHEREVER YOU WANT, BUT REALLY WENT UP BY, UM, THREE TENTHS OF A CENT, UH, FOR EACH STEP IN THERE, KIND OF SHOWING THE IMPACT AND SHOWING THE REVENUE TO THE CITY.

BUT WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO, TO TRY TO FINALIZE WHAT WE'RE GONNA PUBLISH FOR THE BUDGET FOR THE COMMUNITY TO SEE AND PUT THOSE THINGS IN THERE.

SO I, AS I MENTIONED, THE MAMMOTH JACK WAS ONE OF THOSE ELEMENTS THAT, UH, WAS STILL OUTSTANDING.

SO IF THERE'S ANY OUTSTANDING ITEMS, UM, WE ARE HAPPY TO TAKE THAT FEEDBACK.

AND IF YOU CAN TELL US WHERE YOU ARE GOING TO FEEL MOST COMFORTABLE WITH THE, THE TAX RATE, WE CAN PUBLISH THAT SO THE COMMUNITY KNOWS WHERE THE BUDGET'S GOING TO LAND.

THANKS, MARK.

COUNCIL MEMBER LABINE.

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THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UM, OUR RESIDENTS HERE IN PLANO HAVE VERY HIGH EXPECTATIONS.

UM, THEY HAVE INDICATED TO US THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO MAINTAIN THE CITY SERVICES THAT THEY HAVE, AND THEY ENJOY WHEN WE'RE ABLE TO DO A LITTLE SOMETHING MORE FOR THEM.

UM, WE ARE ALSO AT THE POINT OF HAVING MANY ONE-TIME EXPENSES, WHICH, UH, OUR CITY MANAGER AND STAFF HAVE POINTED OUT TO US REALLY NEED TO BE CONSIDERED, UH, IN THE NEAR TERM.

UM, SOME OF THOSE ARE, UH, ARE STREAM BANK EROSION, UH, THE CRITICAL, UH, ELEMENTS, AS WELL AS PROVIDING SOME FUNDING FOR MITIGATING, UH, SOME AREAS FROM BECOMING CRITICAL.

WE HAVE PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, WITH OUR FIRE AND RESCUE, UH, STAFFING CHANGES WHICH NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.

WE HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY NOW TO OFFSET SOME OF THE BOND INTEREST EXPENSE, UH, BASED ON THE, UH, BONDS THAT, UH, WERE APPROVED THIS LAST, UH, ROUND.

UH, AND WE CAN HEAD OFF SOME POTENTIAL TAX INCREASES.

UH, THERE, UM, WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REPLENISH OUR LAND, UH, ACQUISITION FUNDS.

UM, THIS WILL HELP US TO MAINTAIN, UH, OUR CONTINUED EFFORTS TO, UH, GROW AND IMPROVE THE DOWNTOWN AREA IN OUR MUNICIPAL, UH, FACILITIES.

UM, AND, UH, WE ARE REFACING INCREASED PRESSURE ON, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

AND THE CAP THAT WE, UH, PLACED ON THAT FUND, UH, PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE, UH, INCREASED.

AND LIKE WHAT THE CITY MANAGER JUST MENTIONED, THE, UH, MAMMOTH JACK FESTIVAL.

WE CAN'T, UH, FORGET THE FACT THAT, UH, WE NEED TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF FUN AND A LITTLE OF EXCITEMENT, UH, IN DOWNTOWN AND FOR OUR RESIDENTS AS WELL.

SO THAT AND OTHER UNFUNDED EFFORTS, UH, WE MAY NOT HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY AGAIN.

UH, THE STATE LEGISLATURE IS PUTTING TREMENDOUS PRESSURE ON US, UH, AND OUR ABILITY TO, UH, PROVIDE FUNDS FOR THESE, UH, ONE-TIME ELEMENTS.

UH, AND SO, UH, WITH THAT, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, SUGGEST THAT WE, UH, ADOPT THE, UH, 44.06, UH, TAX RATE, UH, SO THAT WE CAN ADDRESS MANY OF THESE NEEDS AND, UH, MAINTAIN, UH, OUR CITY, UH, UH, SERVICES AND SUCH AS THE, UH, MAYOR HAS DIRECTED IN, UH, HIS PROPOSED BUDGET.

THANK YOU, MAYOR PROTO.

UM, I, I AM GOING TO START WITH THE PUNCHLINE.

I, I AGREE WITH, UM, COUNCILMAN LEVINE THAT I, I THINK WE'RE AT THIS POINT WE'RE, WE'RE, WE SHOULD BE AT 44, UM, 0.06, AND I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR SIX YEARS AND I'M, I'M GONNA SAY IT ONE MORE TIME.

UM, CITY OF PLANO SHOULD BE RUN LIKE A BUSINESS, NOT LIKE A HOUSEHOLD.

AND WE HAVE TO HAVE BUFFERS.

WE HAVE TO HAVE MONEY FOR RAINY DAYS.

WE HAVE TO BE UNDER, WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PROTECT, UM, THE CITIES WORKING WITHOUT HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IF WE'RE THAT CLOSE TO NOT BEING ABLE TO, TO BALANCE OUR BUDGET.

UM, FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS, I'VE SEEN, UM, FREEZES, HIRING FREEZES, BUDGET FREEZES, SALARY FREEZES, BECAUSE OUR POOR CITY MANAGER REALLY , IS TRYING TO, TRYING TO BALANCE THE BUDGET BASED ON THAT NARROW, NARROW MARGIN OF WHAT WE, UM, WHAT WE HAVE WHEN WE PASS.

AND THAT'S NOT THE WAY WE WANT THE CITY OF EXCELLENCE.

NOW, I HAD BEEN STRUGGLING BETWEEN, UM, 43 POINT, UH, 4 6, 7 6, UM, BEFORE I CAME TO COUNCIL'S, UM, MEETING TODAY.

AND THE REASON IS BECAUSE I FOUND OUT THAT IF WE DON'T, UM, MAX IT THIS TIME, UM, WE ARE NEVER GOING TO HAVE THIS BUFFER OF MONEY EVER AGAIN BECAUSE THE LEGISLATURE BASICALLY HAVE CUT OFF OUR ARMS AND OUR LEGS.

AND AT THIS POINT, IF WE WANT ANY TYPE OF INCREASE IN OUR TAX BASE, WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE

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IT.

AND THAT IS REALLY SCARY.

AND IF WE HAVE THE CHANCE OF HAVING SOME TYPE OF SAVING FOR THE RAINY DAY OR THE EMERGENCIES, OR TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE CONTINGENCIES ARE PAID FOR, ALL THE EMERGENCIES ARE, ARE, UM, ARE SAVED UP FOR THEN, THAT'S WHAT I WANT.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER CARE.

THANK YOU.

OH, SORRY.

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE GOOD.

THE ORIGINAL BUDGET, WHICH HAD 41.76 DIDN'T INCLUDE A NUMBER OF THINGS, WHICH I THINK ARE REALLY IMPORTANT.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER TWO MENTIONED THE RAINY DAY FUND.

I THINK THAT WE'RE A STORM, A WILDFIRE, YOU KNOW, AWAY FROM BEING IN REAL BIG TROUBLE.

SO I SEE THAT AS A PRIORITY.

UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, LEVI MENTIONED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

I THINK WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO INVEST IN THAT IN ORDER TO GROW OUR TAX BASE SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO, TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES THAT OUR RESIDENTS HAVE COME TO EXPECT.

THERE'S A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS SUCH AS TRANSIT.

WE NEED SOME ALTERNATIVES THERE, I THINK, AND WE HAVEN'T MADE ANY DECISIONS AROUND WHAT'S HAPPENING AROUND DART.

IF WE HAD SOME BUDGET FOR ALTERNATIVES HERE.

I THINK WE, YOU KNOW, IT'S IMPORTANT.

WE'VE HEARD FROM OUR RESIDENTS THAT THEY WANT TRANSIT, THEY NEED TRANSIT PARATRANSIT, FOR EXAMPLE.

THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR OUR RESIDENTS, AND SO WE NEED TO BE PREPARED FOR THAT SORT OF THING TOO.

AND I ALSO HAVE HEARD OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS, MANY PEOPLE HAVE TALKED ABOUT, UH, THE DEBT THAT, THAT WE'VE ENCOUNTERED WITH THE BONDS.

AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE ALTERNATIVE WAYS TO, TO PAY FOR SOME OF THESE THINGS.

MAYBE IT'S SOME MORE SHORT TERM THINGS LIKE TECHNOLOGY.

AND THE LAST THING I WANNA MENTION IS, UH, I THINK WE ALSO NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE EQUIPMENT THAT OUR POLICE HAVE.

UH, MANY OF THESE THINGS ARE IN DIRE NEED OF REPLACEMENT, AND I THINK THAT IT'S INCUMBENT UPON US TO SUPPORT THAT AND HELP THAT.

THANK YOU.

AND WITH THAT, I WOULD SAY THE NUMBER OF THE, UH, 44.06 IS REALLY WHAT I'M AIMING IT FOR.

CAN I MENTION ONE MORE THING ABOUT SURE, GO AHEAD.

UM, MAMMOTH, JACK, SINCE YOU ASK , UM, I, I, I THINK THIS COULD BE A VERY FUN FESTIVAL.

HOWEVER, I'D REALLY LIKE TO LIMIT ANY FUNDS FROM THE CITY TO COME FROM THE HO HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAXES NOT COMING OUTTA GENERAL FUND.

THANK YOU.

GOTCHA.

GOTCHA.

COUNCIL MEMBER HORN, YOU'RE ON.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

OKAY.

APPRECIATE IT.

UH, FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS, IF I UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY, WE'VE KEPT THE, THE TAX RATE THE SAME AT 41.76.

AND, UM, I DON'T THINK ANY OTHER CITY AROUND US HAS DONE THAT, HAVE KEPT THEIR RATE THE SAME FOR THE THREE YEARS.

AND OF COURSE EVERYONE KNOWS THAT COSTS HAVE GONE UP.

WE'VE SEEN IT ACROSS THE, WITH THE BOARD WITH REGARDS TO SERVICES, FUEL, FOOD AND GROCERIES, UM, BUILDING MATERIALS, EQUIPMENT, EVERYTHING'S GOING UP IN PRICE.

AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I'M, I'M NERVOUS.

I, I, I SEE THAT TREND GOING UP EVEN FURTHER, UH, BECAUSE OF THE INTERNATIONAL TARIFFS THAT WE'RE SEEING.

SO I THINK THAT'S GONNA AFFECT US AS A CITY AS WELL AS, UH, AFFECT US PERSONALLY.

UM, AS COUNCILMAN CARE MENTIONED, WE ARE ONE TOR ONE TORNADO AWAY FROM HAVING A CATASTROPHIC EVENT AND REALLY HURTING US CRITICALLY FROM A BUDGET PERSPECTIVE.

SO I THINK IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT WE LOOK AT THAT AND TRY TO SEE IF WE CAN HAVE THE, HAVE THOSE FUNDS AVAILABLE TO, UM, COVER THOSE COSTS.

WE SAW IT IN THIS LAST WIND DAMAGE.

THEY CAME TO US TWICE TO REQUEST FUNDS JUST TO REMOVE DEBRIS FROM STRAIGHT LINE WINDS.

AND OUR CITY DID A FANTASTIC JOB ON GETTING THE PLACE CLEARED, GETTING STREETS PASSABLE, AND WE WERE VERY LUCKY THAT NO ONE WAS KILLED DURING THOSE EVENTS.

WE HAVE SOME ITEMS IN FRONT OF US THAT CITIZENS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT STREAM BANK MITIGATION.

UM, WE ARE RESPONSIBLE 'CAUSE THAT'S PART OF THE, OUR MITIGATION OF, UH, OUR MANAGEMENT OF STORMWATER.

UM, IT'S PART OF OUR CONVEYANCE SYSTEM.

SO THERE'S COSTS THAT WAS UNEXPECTED.

UH, AS COUNCILMAN CARE ALSO MENTIONED, OUR POLICE FORCE, SOME, SOME OF THE BEST IN THE STATE.

THEY ARE THE BEST IN THE STATE AND WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM THE EQUIPMENT

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TO KEEP US THE SAFEST CITY.

UM, OUR PARKS AND REC, WE'RE IN THE, YOU KNOW, TOP FIVE IN THE STATE.

WE GOT A GOLF COURSE.

THIS IS THE TOP 10 PUBLIC GOLF COURSE IN THE STATE THAT, UM, YES, IT GENERATES ITS OWN FEES, BUT THAT'S THE TYPE OF SERVICE THAT OUR CITIZENS ARE EXPECTING.

SO, AND THEN AGAIN, WITH THE STATE LEGISLATOR, WHAT THEY'RE DOING TODAY BY TOMORROW MORNING LUNCH, WE'RE NOT SURE WHAT'S GONNA COME OUT OF WITH REGARDS TO VOTER APPROVED RATES IN THE FUTURE.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M IN FAVOR WITH THIS ONE TIME BOOST OF, UH, WELL NOT ONE TIME, BUT THIS BOOST TO THE ADV VALOR TAX WITH THE INCREMENT OF 44.06 CENTS.

AND I'M HOPING WE'RE ABLE TO SUSTAIN THAT FOR ANOTHER THREE OR FOUR MORE YEARS AND KEEP IT AT THAT RATE.

THANK YOU.

DEPUTY MAYOR.

UH, LIKE MAYOR PROAM TWO, WHEN I CAME TONIGHT, IT WAS WITH THE HOPE OF, OF NOT GOING TO THE LARGEST NUMBER OPTION AVAILABLE TO US AND THEN FOUND OUT ABOUT SB 10, WHICH WILL LOWER THE EXISTING VOTER APPROVAL RATE FROM 3.5% DOWN TO 2.5%.

UM, AND PLANO, THIS WILL ONLY RESULT IN AVERAGE SAVINGS OF ABOUT 12.82 PER YEAR FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

BUT THAT ADDS UP FOR US.

AND NOT TO MENTION IF WE HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL ELECTION IN ORDER TO DO THAT, UM, THERE'S THE ADDITIONAL COSTS THAT COMES WITH THAT AS WELL.

IT MAKES SENSE TO ME.

BEING A MATURE CITY, YOU KNOW, NORMALLY YOU THINK ABOUT YOUNGER CITIES, THEY DON'T NEED TO RAISE THEIR TAX RATE BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT ALL THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT, NEW PROPERTY TAXES COMING ONLINE, AND HERE WE'RE THE ENVY OF COLLIN COUNTY BEING ONE WITH THE LOWEST TAX RATE, PLUS ALL OF THE TAX SAVINGS WITH FREEZES AND, AND SUCH.

ALL THE, ALL THE POSSIBLE BENEFITS YOU CAN HAVE.

AND WE'RE THE OLDEST MOST, WE'RE THE MOST MATURE CITY, IF YOU WILL, IN COLLIN COUNTY.

UM, SO I THINK WE'VE DONE AN AMAZING JOB OF, OF BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF OUR TAX PAYER DOLLARS AND KEEPING THAT TAX RATE DOWN.

UM, BUT I'M, I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT, UM, WHAT IS TO COME AND WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PREPARED FOR THAT.

SO I, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID.

AND, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER CARE, I APPRECIATE THE COMMENT ABOUT MAMMOTH JACK AND LOOKING TO OUR HOT TAXES.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD DEFINITELY LOOK INTO AND I'M GLAD TO HEAR SOMEONE ELSE ON COUNCIL SUPPORTS THE, UM, ADDITIONAL EVENT IN DOWNTOWN PLANO.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL, I'LL AGREE WITH WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN SAID.

COUNCIL MEMBER DOWNS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UM, I'M GONNA SAY DITTO TO EVERYTHING THAT WAS SAID BEFORE BY THE OTHER COUNCIL, BUT I ALSO TOOK AN OPPORTUNITY TO CHANNEL MY FORMER COUNCILMAN ANTHONY ELLI AND DID SOME BACK OF THE MAC NAPKIN MATH AS IT RELATES TO MY OWN HOUSE AND HOW ALL OF THESE RATES WOULD IMPACT ME AS A HOMEOWNER ON MY OWN TAXABLE VALUE.

AND IF WE GO UP TO 44.06, THAT RATE FOR ME, IT WILL COST ME AN ADDITIONAL $257 AND 30 CENTS A YEAR.

LET ME REPEAT THAT.

$257 AND 30 CENTS A YEAR.

I HAVE THE ABILITY OF BEING ABLE TO EASILY ABSORB THAT AND THAT IS NOT AN IMPACT ON ME.

AND SO WHEN WE DO THAT AND WE THINK ABOUT THAT OVERALL AS IT APPLIES TO US, I THINK WE HAVE TO ANALYZE IS IT WORTH $257 AND 30 CENTS A YEAR TO MAINTAIN THE EXCELLENCE OF OUR POLICE, OUR FIRE, OUR PARKS, OUR WRECKS STREAM, BANK STABILIZATION, A FUN FESTIVAL IN DOWNTOWN PLANO, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, LAND BANK, RAINY DAY, ALL OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN SAID HERE.

AND I WANT TO SAY THAT I BELIEVE UNEQUIVOCALLY THE ANSWER IS YES.

THANK YOU.

I'LL HIT THE REQUEST TO SPEAK BUTTON.

SO I MIGHT BE THE ONLY ONE, THE OPPOSITE END OF THIS.

I'M, I HAVE A LITTLE HESITATION GOING STRAIGHT TO THE 44 0 6.

I WAS LEANING AT THE 43 46 OR THE 43 76.

BUT I DO UNDERSTAND THAT WE NEED TO FUND AND WE HAVE THE RAINY DAY FUNDS AND WE HAVE CERTAIN IMPACTS AND WE CAN'T PREDICT WEATHER AS WELL TOO.

AND WHEN IT COMES TO BUDGETS AS WELL, SO I UNDERSTAND WHERE HE'S COMING FROM, IT'S JUST A LITTLE HIGHER THAN WHAT I'M USUALLY USED TO AND WOULD LIKE TO DO RIGHT? ADMITTEDLY IN OUR FIRST TERM.

UM, BUT I DO UNDERSTAND $250 IN REGARDS TO THE IMPACT THAT IT HAS WITH RESIDENTS.

BUT I ALSO HAVE, IN THE BACK OF MY MIND, COST OF LIVINGS GOING OUT, FOOD GOING OUT, GROCERIES IS GOING OUT FOR OUR DAY EVERYDAY CITIZENS, AND I'M THINKING IN MIND OF EVERY RESIDENT ACROSS PLANO, NOT NECESSARILY THE ONES THAT CAN OR CAN'T AFFORD THEIR PROPERTY TAXES.

IT'S JUST A BIGGER PILL FOR ME TO SWALLOW AT THIS TIME.

BUT I WAS LEANING AT THE 43 46.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT, KAREN, I'M, I THINK YOU HAVE SOME DIRECTION.

MM-HMM .

UM, YEP.

SO, UM, I, I TOO AGREE WITH THE 44 0 6 AND,

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UH, WE STILL EVEN AT THAT NUMBER ARE, IF NOT THE LOWEST, RIGHT AT THE LOWEST, UH, TAX RATE IN COLLIN COUNTY.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THEY'RE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS.

WE ARE ADJOURNED.