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I NOW DECLARE THAT THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL JOINT SESSION WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS CONVENED IN OPEN SESSION THAT ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.
I NOW DECLARE THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION JOINT SESSION WITH PLANO CITY COUNCIL IS CONVENED INTO OPEN SESSION AND THAT ALL COMMISSION MEMBERS, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF COMMISSIONER ARE PRESENT.
[Executive Session ]
THE COUNCIL AND PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WILL NOW RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO HOLD A CLOSED EXECUTIVE MEETING PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF VERNON'S TEXAS CODE'S ANNOTATED GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 5 51.THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AUTHORITY CONTAINED IN SECTION 5 51 0 71 TO CONSULT WITH THE ATTORNEY TO RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE AND DISCUSS LITIGATION SECTION 5 51 0 71 TO, UH, TO CONSULT WITH THE ATTORNEY, RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE AND I'M REPEATING MYSELF.
AND RESPOND TO QUESTIONS AND RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE ON AGENDA ITEMS. HUH? THAT WAS PERFECT.
I NOW TO THAT THE PLAINTIFF CITY COUNCIL JOINT SESSION WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS RECONVENED IN OPEN SESSION THAT ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT AND I NOW DECLARE THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION JOINT SESSION WITH THE PLAINTIFF CITY COUNCIL IS RECONVENED INTO OPEN SESSION AND THAT ALL COMMISSION MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.
[I. Discussion and direction on changes to zoning, subdivision, fees, building codes, and related proposed regulatory changes.]
WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM ONE.THIS IS, UH, REGARDING DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION ON CHANGES TO ZONING, SUBDIVISION FEES, BUILDING CODES, AND RELATED PROPOSED REGULATORY CHANGES.
ALRIGHT, GOOD AFTERNOON, UH, COUNSEL AND COMMISSIONERS MS. DAY.
DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE THAT YOU NEED TO SAY ON THIS? I DO.
I DO, I, UM, I HAVE ONE SPEAKER, UH, ON THIS PARTICULAR PRELIMINARY MEETING, AND IF I COULD GO AHEAD AND GET THAT SPEAKER, UH, DONE, THEN WE CAN, UH, WE CAN GO IN THE PRESENTATION.
OUR SPEAKER THIS AFTERNOON IS BILL LYLE.
OKAY, SO I, I THINK I NEED TO READ ITEM A TWO, RIGHT? SO THE PRESENTATION DISCUSSION REGARDING, UH, SENATE BILL EIGHT 40 AND SENATE BILL 15, AND SENATE BILL 24 77, INCLUDING THE NEW TEXAS STATUTORY LIMITATION ON CITY REGULATION OF MULTIFAMILY AND SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT.
ALL RIGHT, WELL, WITH THAT, I WILL, UH, GET STARTED ON MY PRESENTATION.
I'M CHRISTINA DAY, THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING HERE TO INTRODUCE YOU TO THIS TOPIC.
UM, I'LL SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME JUST INTRODUCING WHAT IT IS WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT, COVERING THE HIGH POINTS FOR ANYONE THAT MIGHT BE NEW TO THIS DISCUSSION.
THEN I'LL REVIEW THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE IN THE PACKET, GO THROUGH THAT AFTER WHICH THEN I'VE TEED UP THE QUESTIONS AGAIN FOR EASE OF DISCUSSION.
SO KNOW THAT EVEN THOUGH I'LL BE GOING THROUGH THEM, WE WILL REVISIT EACH QUESTION TO FACILITATE THE DISCUSSION.
SO, FIRST OF ALL, TODAY WE'RE REALLY ADDRESSING THREE VERY SIGNIFICANT BILLS THAT HAVE IMPACTED LAND USE, UH, FOR THE CITY OF PLANO.
THEY'RE ALL EFFECTIVE ON SEPTEMBER 1ST.
UH, INITIALLY SENATE BILL 15 RELATES TO SMALL LOT SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT.
IT DOES ALLOW THAT IN CERTAIN AREAS THAT ARE FAIRLY LIMITED.
THERE'S A MAP THAT WAS PROVIDED IN THE BACKUP MATERIALS THAT SHOWS YOU IT HAS TO BE FIVE ACRES OR MORE, UH, UN PLATTED.
SO, AGAIN, DOESN'T APPLY TO A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF THE CITY, BUT MAY IT WILL BE IMPACTFUL TO THOSE PLACES THAT IT DOES APPLY.
SENATE BILL EIGHT 40 ALLOWS MULTIFAMILY ALSO MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT IN ALL THE NON-RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS IN THE CITY, UM, BY, RIGHT.
SO THIS IS A BIG CHANGE TO OUR LAND USE PATTERN THAT, UH, IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO ADAPT TO AND THEREFORE WE'RE PROVIDING SOME OPTIONS TO THE GROUP TODAY TO DISCUSS.
IT ALSO DISCUSSES CONVERSION OF NON-RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS TO MULTIFAMILY OR MIXED USE.
THERE WAS A COMPANION SENATE BILL 24 77 THAT ADDS SOME RESTRICTIONS, BUT BECAUSE THOSE AREN'T REALLY RELATED TO SOME OF THE DISCUSSION TODAY, YOU WON'T HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT.
BUT WE JUST WANTED TO ANNOUNCE THAT WE DID READ THROUGH THAT AND WE'LL ADAPT IT, UM, IN THE ORDINANCE AS NEEDED
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WHEN THAT'S PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSION ON AUGUST 6TH.SO, A COUPLE OF THINGS TO NOTE ABOUT THESE BILLS.
THEY DO ALLOW MORE LITIGANTS TO SUE CITIES AND A SUCCESSFUL LITIGANT IS ENTITLED TO ATTORNEY'S FEES.
SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE UNUSUAL ABOUT THIS LEGISLATION.
THEY'RE ALSO BRACKETED, SO THEY ONLY APPLY TO CITIES OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND POPULATION IN COUNTIES WITH 300,000.
SO WE'VE MAPPED THAT FOR YOU SO YOU CAN SEE, UM, A REAL CLUSTER OF COMMUNITIES THAT ARE IMPACTED BY THIS IN THE NORTH TEXAS AREA, UM, WITH SOME NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES HERE BEING FRISCO, MCKINNEY GARLAND, UM, THAT ARE IN, IN PROXIMITY TO PLANO.
SO WHAT'S THE TIMELINE ON THIS? THE COMMISSION HELD A WORK SESSION ON THE 21ST.
YOU HAVE THE RESULTS OF THAT IN YOUR PACKET.
WE'RE HOLDING THIS JOINT WORK SESSION TODAY TO GET ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK SO THAT WE CAN TURN AROUND PRETTY QUICKLY THIS WEEK AND PREPARE ORDINANCES FOR THE CONSIDERATION AT A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING ON AUGUST 6TH.
THE COMMISSION WILL BE DISCUSSING THE CIP PROGRAM AT THEIR AUGUST 4TH MEETING.
SO WE THOUGHT WE WOULD HAVE THIS SPECIAL MEETING, SO WE GIVE DUE TIME TO BOTH THESE PRETTY HEAVY TOPICS.
THEN THAT WILL BE SCHEDULED IF IT MOVES OUT OF COMMISSION ON AUGUST 6TH TO THE COUNCIL MEETING ON AUGUST 25TH IN ADVANCE OF THE SEPTEMBER 1ST BILL.
SO I KNOW THAT I GET A LOT OF INTEREST FROM THE COUNCIL TRADITIONALLY ON OUTREACH.
SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE POINTED OUT THE TYPE OF, UH, OUTREACH WE'RE DOING BECAUSE THESE ARE SUCH SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO THE COMMUNITY.
SO WE'VE SENT EMAIL, WEBSITES, SOCIAL MEDIA, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE COMMUNICATIONS TEAM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE REALLY WORKING TO GET THE WORD OUT SO PEOPLE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROCESS.
ALRIGHT, SO WHAT ARE OUR GOALS? WE KIND OF EARLY ON IN THIS PROCESS ESTABLISH SOME GOALS, UM, THAT WE HOPE ALIGN WITH THE VALUES OF THESE BODIES.
UM, FIRST TO PRESERVE OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ABILITY, PARTICULARLY IN LEGACY AND OUR RESEARCH TECHNOLOGY, CROSSROADS AREAS.
UM, SECONDLY, TO PRESERVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD COMPATIBILITY INTEGRITY.
THIRD, TO ENSURE ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE WITH THE INTENSITY OF NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ALLOWED.
AND FINALLY, TO CONTINUE TO REQUIRE WELL-BUILT DEVELOPMENT IN THE COMMUNITY.
THOSE ARE IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER, BUT, UH, WE'RE, WE WERE THINKING THROUGH THIS, THESE GOALS AS WE, UH, CAME UP WITH OPTIONS.
SO INITIALLY, SENATE BILL 15, THESE ARE THE PARCELS IMPACTED.
YOU CAN SEE THE ONES IN YELLOW OR KIND OF GOLD COLOR ARE, UH, THE AREAS THAT COULD ACTUALLY DEVELOP UNDER THE BILL.
THE, UH, GRAY PARCELS ARE OWNED BY THE CITY.
SO WHILE THE CITY COULD POTENTIALLY SELL SOME OF THOSE FOR DEVELOPMENT, WE FEEL LIKE IT.
SO, AND THEY'RE UNLIKELY TO BE DEVELOPED AT ANY POINT IN TIME.
SO OUR RESPONSES ARE, OF COURSE, TO BRING THE REGULATIONS THAT WE HAVE TODAY AND TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAW.
WE ARE PLANNING TO CREATE A USE SPECIFIC STANDARD FOR SMALL LOTS, SINGLE FAMILY THAT WOULD ALIGN WITH THE BILL AND THAT WOULD ALLOW PROPERTIES THAT MEET THAT THRESHOLD TO DEVELOP UNDER THIS OPTION THAT'S BEEN AUTHORIZED BY THE LEGISLATURE AT THE TIME OF PLATTING.
UM, WE WOULD REQUIRE OPEN SPACE BASED ON THE NUMBER OF LOTS AND UPDATE THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE STANDARDS IN RELATIONSHIP TO THIS.
SO WE'VE LOOKED AT ALLEYS REQUIRING ALLEYS FOR LOTS THAT ARE 50 FEET WIDE OR LESS, UM, ALIGNING OUR PLAT VACATION STANDARDS WITH THE LEG LEGISLATION SO WE DON'T HAVE KIND OF GAMING OF VACATING PLATS IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH THE BILL.
AND THEN REQUIRING NOTATION ON THE, UH, PLAT THAT NOTES THEY'RE DEVELOPING UNDER THESE STANDARDS.
SINCE THE ZONING WOULDN'T CHANGE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE AN ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL PROCESS, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING LEGISLATIVE.
SO MOVING ON TO SENATE BILL EIGHT 40, THESE ARE THE AREAS OF THE CITY THAT ARE IMPACTED.
THIS IS 30% OF THE CITY'S LAND AREA.
SO THAT'S WHY WE BELIEVE THIS, YOU KNOW, HAS A SIGNIFICANT LONG-TERM IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY'S DEVELOPMENT.
UH, YOU SEE WE'VE ADDED A THOUSAND FOOT BUFFER AREA AROUND THOSE PARCELS THAT COMPLY WITH THE DEFINITION OF HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USE THAT IS ESTABLISHED UNDER THE BILL.
UM, ALSO THERE IS A 3000 FOOT BUFFER AROUND AIR PARK DALLAS THAT WE HAVE INCORPORATED, BUT OTHER AREAS
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WE'VE SEPARATED HERE INTO A 45 FOOT HEIGHT LIMIT.THAT'S THE MINIMUM ALLOWED UNDER THE BILL.
AND THEN THOSE THAT WOULD HAVE A HIGHER HEIGHT LIMIT BASED ON THE EXISTING ZONING.
SO WHAT CAN WE REGULATE OR WHAT CAN'T WE REGULATE? UH, THE BILL IMPACTS THE WAY WE LOOK AT DENSITY.
WE, UH, SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE CITYWIDE AND SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE ON THE INDIVIDUAL SITE.
SO, UM, THAT'S WHY I LOVE THIS TABLE AS A REFERENCE BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF HARD TO KEEP STRAIGHT.
UM, SO DENSITY IS ABOUT THE CITY.
WHATEVER THE HIGHEST DENSITY IS ANYWHERE IN PLANO IS WHAT'S ALLOWED, UM, OR 36 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE THINGS WELL IN EXCESS OF 36 DUA, UH, DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE IN THE CITY.
SO IN OUR DOWNTOWN AREA IN THE LEGACY MIXED USE AREA.
SO, UM, WE'VE REALLY LOOKED AT HIGHEST DENSITY AS, UH, IN THOSE LOCATIONS AS BEING WHAT WOULD MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THIS BILL.
MAXIMUM HEIGHT, UM, IS THE HIGHEST HEIGHT THAT WOULD APPLY TO ANY BUILDING ON THAT SITE, SO THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE SITE SPECIFIC REGULATIONS, UM, OR 45 FEET, AND YOU'LL SEE THERE'S SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO CERTAIN ZONING DISTRICTS BASED ON THIS STANDARD.
THE SETBACK, AGAIN, THE SAME SETBACK THAT WOULD APPLY TO OTHER USES ON THE SITE OR 25 FEET, WHICH AGAIN, WE HAVE SOME LANDSCAPE EDGES THAT ARE DISTRICTS THAT ARE IN OUR OVERLAYS THAT ARE 30 FEET.
SO THIS WILL BE, AGAIN, A, A MEANINGFUL CHANGE TO MANY LOCATIONS.
STANDARD COMMERCIAL SETBACK IS 50 FEET IN THE CITY PARKING.
WE CAN'T REQUIRE MORE THAN ONE SPACE PER DWELLING UNIT, AND WE CAN'T REQUIRE MULTI-LEVEL PARKING STRUCTURES.
AGAIN, UM, FOR MULTIFAMILY, THIS ISN'T THAT BIG OF A CHANGE FOR THE ONE SPACE PER DWELLING UNIT, BUT, UM, AGAIN, STILL OVERALL, UH, A MEANINGFUL CHANGE LOT COVERAGE.
THIS IS ANOTHER THING WHERE WE CAN'T RESTRICT THE BUILDING FLOOR AREA IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE LOT.
SO OUR, UH, SIGNIFICANT, UH, INTEREST IN THIS ONE IS HOW DO WE MEET THE OPEN SPACE STANDARDS THAT PEOPLE NEED FOR A GOOD QUALITY OF LIFE CONSISTENT WITH THE WAY THE COMMUNITY HAS DEVELOPED AND OUR CONNECT COMMUNITY STANDARDS.
WE CAN'T REQUIRE MULTI-FAMILY TO CONTAIN NON-RESIDENTIAL USES WHEN THEY'RE IN AN AREA NOT ZONED FOR MIXED USE RESIDENTIAL.
AND FINALLY, UM, AGAIN, WE HAVE TO APPROVE EVERYTHING ADMINISTRATIVELY.
SO IN RESPONSE, AGAIN, FIRST PRIORITY BRING THINGS INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAW.
WE'RE LOOKING AT REGULATING DENSITY THROUGH MINIMUM HEIGHTS, MAXIMUM HEIGHTS AND MINIMUM DWELLING UNIT SIZES, RATHER THAN ESTABLISHING A CITYWIDE DENSITY BECAUSE WE DIDN'T THINK THAT WOULD WORK.
UM, THERE'S JUST TOO MUCH VARIETY IN OUR LAND USE PATTERN.
WE WANT TO ADOPT NEW DESIGN STANDARDS FOR BUILDING AND SITE DESIGN FOR LANDSCAPING, BUILDING QUALITY AND RESILIENCE.
TYPICALLY, WE HAVE BUILT THIS INTO DEVELOPMENT PLANS OR WE'VE BUILT THIS INTO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS SINCE THAT WILL NO LONGER BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMUNITY.
WE THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO ADOPT THESE CITYWIDE AND THEN UPDATE SUBDIVISION STANDARDS THAT ENSURE THAT WE HAVE ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE AND STREET DESIGN TO MEET THE INTENSITY OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.
AND THEN A FINAL NOTE IS LOOKING AT REQUIRING NOTICING AND SIGNAGE FOR DEVELOPMENT UNDER THE BILL.
WE KNOW THE COMMUNITY HAS EXPRESSED INTEREST TO BOTH OF THE BOARDS OR THE BOARD AND THE COM AND THE COUNCIL WHEN THERE IS UNEXPECTED DEVELOPMENT THAT OCCURS IN THEIR AREA.
AND SO JUST COMMUNICATING THAT UPFRONT SO THEY KNOW THAT THE CITY CANNOT CHANGE OR MEET THEIR NEEDS IF THEY'RE CONCERNED AND DIRECTING THEM TO THE CORRECT INDIVIDUALS.
SO WITH THAT, UM, I HAVE THREE SORT OF BUCKETS OF CHANGES BASED ON THE FEEDBACK WE GOT FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
FIRST, THIS, THESE ARE THE CHANGES THAT THE COMMISSION FOUND ACCEPTABLE AND RECOMMENDED ESTABLISHING NEW HEIGHT MAXIMUM AND MINIMUMS ENHANCED LANDSCAPING, REMOVING MULTIFAMILIES AND ALLOWED USE IN THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY DESIGN ZONING DISTRICT, ENSURING ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE CAPACITY AND ENHANCING OUR ABILITY TO CONTROL FUNDING AS WELL AS ESTABLISHING THE MINIMUM UNIT SIZES.
THEN WE HAVE THIS MORE DETAILED MAP.
WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO SPEND MORE TIME IN OUR ANALYSIS OF HEIGHT IMPACTS.
SO WE WANTED TO PROVIDE THIS TO THESE BODIES AND TO THE COMMUNITY.
SO THE IMPACT IS, IS GETTING MORE REFINED AND PEOPLE CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HOW THIS MIGHT, THE CHANGES THAT MIGHT HAPPEN UNDER THE LAW.
AND AS PROPOSED WITH OUR ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS.
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THEN WE HAVE ONE ITEM THAT WAS NOT RECOMMENDED THAT WAS USING CARPORTS TO COVER PARKING.SO UNLESS THERE'S A CHANGE TONIGHT, WE WILL NOT BE INCLUDING THAT IN THE ORDINANCE MOVING FORWARD.
THEN THERE WERE SIX ITEMS, I BELIEVE THAT HAD A NUMBER OF CHANGES OR NEEDED MORE DISCUSSION.
SO I'LL RUN THROUGH THOSE AS JUST BRIEFLY TO KIND OF LAY OUT SOME OF THE DECISION POINTS.
SO THE, WHEN WE ADOPT ZONING, WE REQUIRE NOTICE.
WHEN WE ADOPT NEW, ADOPT NEW CODES, THERE'S ALSO A 30 DAY DELAY IN THEIR EFFECTIVENESS UNDER THE LAW.
SO WE KNEW WE COULDN'T GET ANY KIND OF CODE ADOPTION DONE IN THE TIMELINE THAT WE HAD BEFORE SEPTEMBER 1ST.
SO WHILE THE INTERNATIONAL CODES GREEN BUILDING PROVISIONS ARE A POSSIBILITY, THOSE WON'T BE ADOPTED BY SEPTEMBER 1ST.
SO AN OPTION WE THOUGHT WAS TO USE LEAD CERTIFICATION, WHICH IS THE BASELINE.
THEY HAVE FOUR LEVELS OF SILVER, GOLD, AND PLATINUM ABOVE THE CERTIFICATION LEVEL.
SO THAT WOULD BE THE, THE MINIMUM STANDARD FOR LEAD.
SO WE COULD EITHER ADOPT THAT, UM, PERMANENTLY, WE COULD ADOPT IT UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THE GREEN CODE CAN BE ADOPTED AND IMPLEMENTED INTO OUR BUILDING CODES.
WE COULD ADOPT A LEAD CERTIFICATION AND THEN WAIT UNTIL FURTHER RECOMMENDATIONS COME OUT OF THE REWRITE ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND GO THROUGH BOTH OF THESE BODIES TO REFINE OUR FUTURE PLANS.
WE COULD ADOPT NO CHANGES, NEITHER LEAD NOR THE GREEN CODE.
AND THEN ANOTHER DECISION THAT WE NEED TO MAKE TONIGHT IS REALLY DOES THIS APPLY TO ALL BUILDINGS OR ONLY THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE ALLOWED UNDER SB EIGHT 40.
SO THE SECOND ITEM ON DESIGN STANDARDS, THE BUILDING OFFICIAL IS HERE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT LEAD AND THEN I'LL COME BACK AND DISCUSS MORE ABOUT THE HEIGHT VARIATIONS FOR DEVELOPMENTS.
SO WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL S SO GOOD AFTERNOON COUNCIL AND COMMISSION.
I WAS ASKED TO LOOK AT THE ADVANTAGES, LIMITATIONS FOR LEAD AND THE INTERNATIONAL GREEN CONSTRUCTION CODE.
SO A LOT OF THAT WAS RESEARCH ON MY PART.
AS YOU KNOW, PLANO ENFORCES NEITHER ONE.
SO LOOKING AT SOME OF THE PROS AND CONS, OF COURSE, LEAD HAS AN ESTABLISHED, UH, BRAND MARKETABILITY.
IT'S GLOBALLY RECOGNIZED AND IT'S BEEN IN PLACE FOR OVER 25 YEARS.
THERE'S A FLEXIBLE CREDIT SYSTEM THAT ALLOWS, UH, DEVELOPERS TO TAILOR LEAD TOWARDS THEIR BUILDING GOALS.
WELL, THERE ARE TAX BENEFITS THERE CAN BE FOR, UH, APPLYING LEAD TO YOUR BUILDING AND THE LIFECYCLE SCOPE, WELL, IT FOLLOWS YOU AND COVERS ANY DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF YOUR BUILDING.
AS YOU HAVE ONGOING BUILDING OPERATIONS.
MAINTENANCE IS STILL INCLUDED IN LEAD.
THERE ARE ALSO CERTIFICATION LEVELS, UH, SEVERAL CERTIFICATION LEVELS IN LEAD.
THERE IS A CERTIFIED SILVER, GOLD, AND PLATINUM IN EACH LEVEL, RISING HIGHER AS YOU DEVELOP YOUR CERTIFICATION LEVELS IN ENHANCER BUILDING, UH, SUPPORTED BY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WAS ADDED, UH, AS A, AS A PRO, CERTAINLY A LIMITATION OF THE COSTS LEAD IS EXPENSIVE, AS I UNDERSTAND IT'S A VOLUNTARY PROCESS, BUT IF WE ADOPTED IT, IT WOULD IT LONGER BE VOLUNTARY.
IT DOESN'T ALIGN WITH THE CODES EVERY TIME.
SO THERE ARE CERTAIN ITEMS IN THE CODE THAT ARE NOT IN THE SCOPE.
WITH LEAD, THERE IS SOME CERTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS THAT IS EVALUATING THE ONGOING PERFORMANCE OF THE BUILDING.
AND SO THAT CAN OR CANNOT BE DONE.
AND THE DOCUMENTATION, THERE'S A LOT OF DOCUMENTATION REQUIRED FOR LEAD, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THE GREEN CONSTRUCTION CODE, WELL, IF ADOPTED LEGALLY ENFORCEABLE AND IT IS A MEMBER OF THE INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL FAMILY.
SO EVERYTHING WOULD BE INTEGRATED WITH THE CODES.
UH, BASELINE SUSTAINABILITY, WELL WE WOULD KNOW WHERE THE FLOOR IS WITH THE GREEN BUILDING CODE, UH, COMPARED WITH ALL OUR I CODES, CERTAINLY A PUBLIC HEALTH FOCUS AT IT AS IT DOES, UH, ALIGN WITH THE LOOKING AT THE REVIEW OF THE HEALTH AND WATER QUALITY ASPECTS AND ENVIRONMENTAL REQUIREMENTS FOR, FOR, UH, BUILDING IT IS PRESCRIPTIVE AND PERFORMANCE.
SO IT IS, UH, IT USES BOTH REQUIREMENTS.
PRESCRIPTIVE AS YOU KNOW, THE CODE.
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A, UH, AS A RECIPE BOOK.BASICALLY YOU DO WHAT THE CODE SAYS AND THEN PERFORMANCE WOULD BE, UH, YOU WOULD STILL DO CERTAIN PARTS OF WHAT THE CODE SAID AND THEN YOU WOULD EXCEED THEM AND MODEL WHAT YOU HAVE AS A BUILDING ON A COMPUTER, UH, BASED, UH, PROGRAM, WHICH WOULD EVALUATE YOUR BUILDING IF FOR COMPLIANCE, UH, SUPPORTED BY A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AGAIN, LIMITATIONS ON THE GREEN CODE IS, UH, LIMITED AWARENESS, ESPECIALLY IN OUR AREA IN THE DFW AREA.
THERE ARE NO INCENTIVES, STAFFING EXPERIENCE, OBVIOUSLY WE ARE, WE ARE NOT EXPERIENCED WITH THE GREEN CONSTRUCTION CODE.
JURISDICTIONAL VARIABILITY, MEANING THAT, UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY CITIES IN THE AREA EXCEPT FOR DALLAS, WHICH I LEARNED HAS HAD IT IN PLACE SINCE, UH, 2012.
AND, UH, WE DO VIEW OUR CODES THROUGH COG.
IT IS NOT REVIEWED THROUGH COG, SO IT'S NOT AT THIS TIME COG RECOMMENDED.
AND SO THOSE ARE THE, UH, ADVANTAGES AND LIMITATIONS THAT I HAVE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, BUT, ALRIGHT.
AND I THINK THE BUILDING OFFICIAL WILL STILL BE HERE AS WE GET INTO THE DISCUSSION SESSION IF YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS FOR HIM.
SO THE SECOND ITEM ON DESIGN STANDARDS THAT WE WANTED TO WORK THROUGH IS, UH, RELATED TO HEIGHT VARIATION.
SO THE COMMISSION ASKED US TO LOOK AT HOW WE COULD MITIGATE IN ANY WAY THE KIND OF IMPACT FOR RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY, ESSENTIALLY BECAUSE THESE HEIGHT STANDARDS ARE, ARE SO DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE HAVE TODAY.
AND SO WE DO HAVE A HEIGHT RELATED RESTRICTION, MAYBE IRONICALLY IN OUR YARD REGULATIONS.
UM, EVERYONE'S LOOKING FOR IT UNDER OUR HEIGHT STANDARDS,
AND SO WE THOUGHT, HEY, THIS IS A RATIONAL THING TO MOVE INTO THE HEIGHT STANDARDS.
IT'S FORMULATED RIGHT NOW, IT'S THE FORMULA TALKS TOWARD YARDS, BUT IF WE REWORK IT TO ADAPT IT TO HEIGHT AND SPEAK TO HEIGHT, WHICH IT IS EFFECTIVELY REGULATING, WE COULD UTILIZE THIS STANDARD THAT WE FEEL LIKE AND COMPLY WITH THE LAW.
SO WE GAVE YOU A COUPLE OF KIND OF, UM, EXAMPLES HERE OF WHAT THAT IMPACT PACK MIGHT BE.
AND WE CHOSE THE STANDARDS OF THOSE MINIMUM HEIGHTS THAT WE'VE PROPOSED OF 45 FEET BEING CONSISTENT WITH THE LAW, 75 FEET AS A STANDARD FOR CERTAIN ZONING DISTRICTS AND ONE 20 FOR OTHERS TO SHOW YOU THE IMPACT IT WOULD HAVE IN THOSE AREAS.
SO WHERE THERE IS A ZERO, UH, THE, ON THE MY LEFT, I GUESS YOUR LEFT AS WELL, THERE IS A 25 FOOT WHERE THERE'S THE 25 FOOT SETBACK, WHICH IS THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED.
YOU CAN SEE THAT WOULD BE 45 FEET HIGH.
AND THEN AS YOU GET, GET BACK TO 85 FEET, YOU CAN BUILD A 75 FOOT BUILDING AND 175 YOU CAN GO UP TO THE ONE 20 FOOT BUILDING.
UM, THEN WHERE THERE'S A ZERO SETBACK, YOU CAN SEE THAT'S, IT'S LESS IMPACTFUL.
45 FEET AT THE PROPERTY LINE, 60 FEET BACK, YOU CAN GO UP TO 75 FEET AND 150 FEET BACK, YOU CAN GO UP TO ONE 20.
AND THESE WOULD JUST BE ADAPTED TO, I WOULD SAY OUR KIND OF MORE SUBURBAN STYLE DEVELOPMENT.
THINGS LIKE URBAN MIXED USE DISTRICTS.
DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT WOULD NOT HAVE THESE SETBACKS THERE EXEMPT BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE DEVELOPMENT THERE.
SO SECOND ITEM EXPRESSWAY CORRIDOR OVERLAY.
WE'VE SUMMARIZED FOR YOU WHAT WE THINK.
THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION WITH THE COMMISSION ON THIS ITEM, AND SO WE HOPE WE GOT IT RIGHT, BUT SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK AS TO REMOVING THE STANDARDS THAT CAN NO LONGER BE REQUIRED.
PROHIBITING BALCONIES FACING EXPRESSWAYS REQUIRING 15 FOOT LANDSCAPE SCAPED EDGE ON PROPERTY LINES CLOSEST TO EXPRESS WISE WITHIN THE OVERLAY DISTRICT.
AND THEN RE MAINTAINING THESE STANDARDS FOR INSTITUTIONAL MULTIFAMILY AND MIXED USE DWELLINGS FOR FILTRATION, AIR QUALITY AND, UH, NOISE.
SO THE THIRD TOPIC IS ABOUT SINGLE FAMILY USES IN NON-RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS.
AGAIN, A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON THIS TOPIC AND WE CAME AWAY WITH THERE IS INTEREST IN LOOKING AT OUR TIER TWO, WHICH IS THE MORE INTENSE HOUSING IN OUR RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY DESIGN DISTRICT, UM, AND HOW THAT MIGHT BE APPLIED TO AS A, AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO MULTIFAMILY IN THE COMMERCIAL AREAS.
SIGNAGE, UM, WE HAD SOME GOOD DISCUSSION ABOUT SIGN.
WE TOOK THAT FEEDBACK AND HAVE TRIED TO MAKE THESE SIGNS LOOK MORE DIFFERENT.
SO, UH, WE WANTED TO RUN THESE BY THE GROUPS
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AND SEE A COUPLE OF OPTIONS WE'RE PRESENTING.IF IT'S JUST THE SIGNS JUST ADDRESS EIGHT 40, WE HAVE A MULTIFAMILY COMMENT.
STAFF ACTUALLY PREFERS THE BROADER NOTICE ADDRESSING BOTH SB EIGHT 40 AND SB 15 BECAUSE OF THE IMPACT TO THE COMMUNITY AND THE CHANGE THAT, AGAIN, THEY'RE NOT ANTICIPATING.
SO THAT, UH, MORE BROAD HOUSING CONSTRUCTED ON THIS SITE IS AUTHORIZED UNDER THE LAWS OF THE STATE OF TEXAS.
THEN THE FIFTH ITEM IS SIMILARLY ABOUT TRANSPARENCY SENDING NOTICES.
UH, THE IDEA IS WITHIN 500 FEET.
THAT'S ALREADY A DEVELOPED PROCESS WE'VE GOT FOR ZONING.
SO IT'S KIND OF PLUG AND PLAY FOR US.
UM, WE ALSO SEND TO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS WITHIN 1500 FEET.
SO THAT'S, UH, AGAIN, A PROCESS THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO DEVELOP.
UM, THE IDEA HERE IS THAT WE WOULD SEND THESE FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE UNTIL THE COMMUNITY ADAPTED TO UNDERSTANDING AND THEN WE WOULD SUNSET THIS PROCESS WHEN IT WAS NO LONGER NECESSARY.
THEN FINALLY, WE HAVE STREET AND OFF STREET PARKING STANDARDS.
THIS IS MORE RELATED TO THE SMALL LOT SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT OR REQUIRING THE MIXED USE AND CORNER CONTEXT TYPE G STANDARDS.
SO WE'VE GIVEN YOU A CLIP HERE TO SHOW YOU THERE ARE IS DESIGNATED ON STREET PARKING, STREET TREES, WIDER SIDEWALKS BECAUSE OF THE INTENSITY OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S GOT THAT, UM, MORE URBAN STREET SECTION THAT PROVIDES ON STREET PARKING AND MORE WALKABILITY.
SO THAT WE HOPE ADDRESSES THE CONCERNS THAT THE COMMISSION EXPRESSED, UM, AS WELL AS OFF STREET PARKING ON SITE, WHICH WE WILL LOOK AT ADDING DIMENSIONS, SETBACK AND SURFACE TO MAKE SURE THOSE ARE ALL MET.
IF THEY'RE NOT CLEAR IN THE CURRENT ORDINANCE, WE'RE GONNA DOUBLE CHECK AND MAKE SURE THOSE ARE ARE REQUIRED.
SO AGAIN, WE WILL BE PREPARING AN ORDINANCE BASED ON YOUR FEEDBACK TODAY TO BRING BACK TO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 6TH.
WE'VE ALREADY HAD OUR PUBLIC COMMENTS AND SO NOW WE'RE, I WILL TURN IT BACK TO THE MAYOR FOR DISCUSSION OF THESE ITEMS. OKAY, SO, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND, AND CITY COUNCIL, THESE ARE, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HAS HAS, UH, WORKED THROUGH LAST WEEK.
UH, THIS IS PROBABLY A FIRST TIME COUNCIL HAS, HAS SEEN THESE RECOMMENDATIONS IN PERSON.
SO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING, UH, THE RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, THIS IS YOUR TIME.
I'VE, I'VE TEED THEM UP TO WHERE WE HAVE EACH OF THE SLIDES THAT I PRESENTED TO YOU.
ALL RIGHT, THAT'S HELPFUL TO HELP.
YEAH, THAT WOULD BE THEM MAKE DIGESTIBLE PIECES.
UH, REALLY, I, I GOT TWO POINTS I WANT TO ADDRESS.
ONE HAS TO DEAL WITH THE LEAD CERTIFICATION ON, UH, THE BUILDINGS.
UM, UH, THANK YOU MR. MATA FOR THE PRESENTATION ON THAT.
UM, THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE LEAD REALLY WAS TO, UH, IMPROVE THE SUSTAINABILITY OF BUILDINGS, YOU KNOW, AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY MANAGE WASTE WHEN THEY DO THE CONSTRUCTION, BUT ALSO LOOKING AT ENERGY, WHETHER, AND WATER CONSERVATION OF THOSE, THE LOWEST LEVEL THAT I THINK YOU CAN ACHIEVE IS LEAD CERTIFIED.
AND THE HARDEST PART OF THAT OUTSIDE OF THE DESIGN ELEMENT, AS YOU SAID EARLIER, IS THE DOCUMENTATION.
AND A TYPICAL COMMERCIAL CONTRACTOR, HE DOESN'T HAVE THAT PERSON ON SITE TO RECORD THAT.
YOU'LL SEE IT IN A LOT OF THE MUNICIPAL CONSTRUCTION, YOU'LL SEE IT A LOT IN FEDERAL CONSTRUCTION.
BUT ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE, UNLESS THEY REALLY ARE TRYING TO GET THAT LEAD CERTIFICATION AND FULLY UNDERSTAND THE REQUIREMENT FOR THAT, I THINK THAT, UM, IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S A DOABLE AND THE CERTIFICATION PART LEAD CERTIFIED, I WOULD, I WOULD ALMOST SAY THERE IS SOME COST TO IT, BUT IT'S NOT AS COSTLY AS SILVER OR GOLD OR PLATINUM.
AGAIN, I, AND IT'S IN MY OPINION, AND I THINK WE NEED TO STILL LOOK AT OUR NEW CONSTRUCTION AND OR CONVERSION AND MAINTAIN THE FACT THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA GET 320,000 PEOPLE IN PLANO FAIRLY QUICKLY.
COLLIN COUNTY'S GROWING BY WHAT ONE PERSON EVERY THREE SECONDS.
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OF ENERGY EFFICIENCY, WATER EFFICIENCY, AND SUSTAINABILITY.SO MY POSITION IS, IS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK WHAT WE CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ON NEW CONSTRUCTION ALSO REDEVELOPMENT THAT WE KEEP THOSE IN MIND BECAUSE THOSE ARE LIMITED RESOURCES.
THE SECOND POINT I WANNA BRING UP IS THE BALCONY ON EXPRESSWAY CORRIDOR.
OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, FROM, FROM LONG TIME WE DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE ANY CONSTRUCTION ON THE, IN THE EXPRESSWAY OVERLAY DISTRICT FOR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.
BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S UP TO US TO TELL A DEVELOPER ON HOW TO DESIGN AND CONSTRUCT THIS BUILDING.
IF HE WANTS TO PUT A BUILDING AND HAVE A BALCONY THAT'S OVERLOOKING NORTH DALLAS TOLLWAY OR 75, WHO ARE WE TO PRESENT TO, TO TELL HIM NOT TO DO THAT? GRANTED ON THE BUILDINGS THEMSELVES, WHERE A PERSON WE'RE GONNA SPEND A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME INDOORS, YES, ON A PUBLIC HEALTH PERSPECTIVE, WE CAN DO THAT, BUT YOU'LL SEE THAT MOST PEOPLE DO NOT SPEND AN EXTRAORDINARY AMOUNT OF TIME ON THEIR BALCONIES.
THEY MAY SIT OUT THERE AND HAVE A MORNING CUP OF COFFEE, OR THEY MAY GO OUT THERE AND SEE A SETTING SUN.
THEY WON'T BE OUT THERE FACING WEST AT ONE O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON.
BUT I THINK THAT FOR US TO BE, UH, ARBITRARY AND TELLING A DESIGNER HOW HE CAN DESIGN HIS BUILDING, I DON'T THINK THAT'S PART OF WHAT A CITY SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO.
BUT AGAIN, FROM THE INTERNAL PERSPECTIVE WITH THE PROPER MERV TO STC RATINGS FOR NOISE ABATEMENT, I THINK YES, INDEED, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT.
MR. MAYOR, THOSE WERE MY OPINIONS.
DID YOU HAVE COMMENT? YEAH, I JUST HAD JUST HAD ONE COMMENT, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, THANKS TO THE STAFF, VERY GREAT NOTES.
LOOKS LIKE YOU'VE INCORPORATED ALL BUT ONE ITEM.
SO, UM, THE TYPE I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA TELL YOU FROM A PERSONAL PERSPECTIVE, THE TYPE G ADOPTION FOR THE SMALL RESIDENTIAL, THAT'S THE PERFECT SOLUTION.
WE TALKED ABOUT THAT THE OTHER NIGHT, SO THANK YOU.
THE ONE I THINK WE MISSED WAS, WE TALKED ABOUT, GIVEN THAT WE ONLY HAVE A ONE PARKING SPACE REQUIREMENT NOW FOR MULTIFAMILY, THAT THAT COULD NOT BE COMPACT.
IT HAD TO BE FULL SIZE PARKING SPACE.
IF THEY WANNA PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SPACES, THOSE COULD BE COMPACT, BUT THE MINIMUM ONE SPACE WAS REQUIRED TO BE A FULL-SIZED PARKING SPACE.
THAT WAS MY, MY COMMISSIONERS MAY HAVE SOME OTHER ONES, BUT THOSE WERE THE ONLY ONES I NOTICED.
THE VERY THOROUGH JOB, MR. LINGENFELTER.
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO ASK, UH, UH, STAFF WAS, UM, AS I AGREE THAT THE, UM, THE HIGHER DENSE DENSITY OF, UH, RESIDENTIAL TYPE UNITS DO EFFECTIVELY LOOK SIMILAR TO MULTIFAMILY AND STUFF.
UH, MY MY CONCERN STILL GOES TO, IF WE OPEN IT TO A SINGLE FAMILY TYPE ZONING, UM, WHAT DOES THAT DO TO US WITH, UM, AS FAR AS COMPOUNDING NOW SB 15 INTO THE MIX, WOULD THAT OPEN DOORS TO SB 15 NOW REGULATING THAT SAME, UH, TRACT, IF WE, IF WE OPEN THAT UP, ONCE IT'S DEVELOPED, IT'S PLATTED, SB 15 WOULD NOT APPLY.
SO I DON'T THINK WE'RE AT RISK OF THAT HAPPENING.
UM, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF OR MAYBE FOR THE, UM, BUILDING OFFICIAL ABOUT THE, UH, LEAD.
SO THE, ONE OF THE CONS IS TALKING ABOUT THE LEAD.
UH, SOME OF THE, UM, REQUIREMENTS ACTUALLY IS IN VIOLATION OF THE CODE OR NOT MEETING OUR CODE, OUR BUILDING CODE.
SO MY QUESTION IS, IF WE HAVE TO MEET THE CODE, WOULD IT VIOLATE OR WOULD IT NEGATE OR VOID THE CERTIFICATION? IF WE, IF WE WANT TO PUT LEAD INTO OUR PROCESSING, ADOPT A LEAD CERTIFICATION THAT ONCE WE ADOPT THAT IN ONE BUILDING, MEET, GET THE LEAD CERTIFICATION, BUT DOESN'T MEET THE CODE, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN? LEAD IS A SERIES OF POINTS.
SO THIS CERTIFICATION, UH, THE KIND OF MINIMUM CERTIFICATION WOULD BE SOMETHING WHERE IF IT DOESN'T MEET THE CODE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO JUST CHOOSE SOMETHING ELSE ON THE LIST IS THE BOTTOM LINE WHERE THEY HAVE TO GET THOSE 40 POINTS.
THEY CLEARLY COULDN'T DO SOMETHING THAT MEETS, THAT VIOLATES OUR BUILDING CODE.
BUT I BELIEVE WE KNOW WE HAVE CERTIFIED BUILDINGS IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO IT IS POSSIBLE TO MEET THE MINIMUM STANDARDS AND MEET OUR BUILDING CODES.
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THAT QUESTION, SLIDE 21 MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT CODES, BUT, UM, WHAT ARE, LEMME GO TO SLIDE 21 REAL QUICK, CHRISTINA.UH, THIS IS NOT ALWAYS ALIGNED WITH CODES.
DO WE HAPPEN TO KNOW SOME EXAMPLES OF THAT? WHAT'S SPECIFICALLY CODE IS LIKE SAFETY UNDER THE CONS? I THINK THAT THE, UH, COMMENT ON THE CONS OF NOT ALIGNED WITH CODES IS THAT LEAD ISN'T ALWAYS, UH, AS WE ADOPT THE CODES EVERY THREE YEARS RIGHT? THEY CHANGE, UH, AND I THINK LEAD IS EVERY FIVE TO SIX YEARS.
SO, UH, THAT WOULD BE, UM, PART OF THAT NOT ALIGNED WITH CODES.
SO IT'S NOT IN, IT'S NOT IN TUNE WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S WRITTEN EVERY THREE YEARS.
THERE'S NOTHING REGARDING SAFETY.
AND, AND THE GREEN AND LEAD CODES ARE NOTHING ABOUT SAFETY REALLY.
IT'S NOT A THANK YOU FOR CONFIRMING THAT.
I'M JUST, I'M, I'M THINKING ABOUT THE, THE MINIMUM HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS.
UH, ONE OF THE REASONS THAT OUR CITIZENS HAVE, UM, LOOKED TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS TO LESS APARTMENTS.
IF WE PUT A MINIMUM STANDARD IN, DOES THAT AUTOMATICALLY MEAN THAT THE DENSITY'S GONNA BE HIGHER THAN PERHAPS OUR CITIZENS ARE EXPECTING? IT COULD DRIVE A MORE ABSOLUTELY, UH, MORE INTENSIVE PRODUCT, BUT NOT NECESSARILY.
I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT OUR, OUR HEIGHT AND DENSITY EXAMPLES, WE LIKE TO LOOK AT LEVEL 29 AND LEGACY THAT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THE WINDROSE TOWER.
VERY DIFFERENT DENSITIES, SAME HEIGHT BUILDING.
UM, SO IT'S BECAUSE ONE IS A CONDOMINIUM PRODUCT, THE FLOOR PLATES ARE THE FLOOR, THE FOOTPRINTS OF THE UNITS ARE JUST MUCH LARGER.
AND SO, UM, I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARILY A CONCLUSION, BUT IT'S A LIKELY, IT'S LIKELY THAT IF YOU'RE HAVING TO BUILD 120 FOOT BUILDING, THAT YOU ARE GONNA HAVE A HIGHER DENSITY.
COMMISSIONER BROSKY? YEAH, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR THE BUILDING OFFICIAL AS IT RELATES TO THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN LEADS AND THE GREEN CODE.
SO UNDERSTANDING THAT THE LEADS OFFERS US A GREAT DEAL, MORE FLEXIBILITY, BUT THE GREEN CODES ARE MORE PRESCRIPTIVE.
DO WE FEEL LIKE THE USAGE OF THE POINT SYSTEM VERSUS THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS, HOW WOULD THAT, WHICH ONE WOULD BE A BETTER FROM A CITY PERSPECTIVE AS WELL AS A DEVELOPMENTAL PERSPECTIVE OF GOING DOWN ONE ROAD AS OPPOSED TO THE OTHER? OKAY.
I'M, UH, PROBABLY GONNA SEND EVERYTHING IN A TAILSPIN 'CAUSE I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT QUESTION, BUT WE WOULD LIKE YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND SO, WELL, IT'S, UH, IT'S A BLEND.
AND WE'VE JUST BEEN TALKING, LET'S GO THIS WAY AND, OR EITHER OR.
SO, UH, A BLEND WOULD BE TAKING SOME OF THE BEST CONCEPTS THAT WE CAN ENFORCE FROM THE GREEN CONSTRUCTION CODE RIGHT? IN OUR OWN CODE.
BECAUSE IF YOU TAKE THE INTERNATIONAL GREEN CONSTRUCTION CODE, IT APPLIES TO EVERYTHING.
SO IF YOU ARE JUST GOING TO APPLY IT TO MULTIFAMILY, YOU'RE GONNA TAKE THAT BOOK AND AMEND IT, EDIT THE HECK OUT OF IT SO THAT YOU GET IT BACK DOWN TO MULTIFAMILY.
WELL, IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT, WHY DON'T YOU JUST WRITE YOUR OWN GREEN CODE AND THEN ALONG WITH THAT, IF YOU WANNA SAY OPTIONS, YOU CAN HAVE LEAD AS AN OPTION.
AND YOU CAN HAVE THE GREEN CONSTRUCTION CODE, WHICH WE COULD CREATE AS AN OPTION.
WHICH ONE ARE YOU GONNA DO? THAT'S UP TO YOU.
UM, I CALLED DALLAS, ASKED THEM HOW THAT WAS GOING SINCE IT'S BEEN SINCE 20 10, 20 12.
THEY'RE UNDER THE 2015 GREEN CONSTRUCTION CODE.
I THINK THEY'RE MOVING TO THE 2018.
THAT TOLD ME A LOT ABOUT THE GREEN CONSTRUCTION CODE.
I'M NOT GONNA SAY ANYMORE ABOUT THAT.
SO, UM, I THINK A BLEND IS, IS A, IS AN IDEA THAT, YOU KNOW, IF IF YOU WERE ASKING ME WHAT I WOULD DO, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD DO, UH, BECAUSE IT WOULD, UH, HELP US WITH THE UNDERSTANDING OF WHICH WAY TO INCORPORATE THE BEST CONCEPTS AND HAVE THE BEST OF ALL WORLDS.
THAT'S SO WITH THE IDEA THAT, THAT DIRECTION, WILL WE, WILL WE HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO GET THAT DONE BEFORE SEPTEMBER 1ST? NO, SIR.
SO WHAT WOULD BE YOUR ADVICE FOR US AS WE MOVE THIS FORWARD PRIOR TO SEPTEMBER 1ST? I THINK WHAT THE
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PLANNING DEPARTMENT PROPOSES WOULD BE THE WAY TO MOVE FORWARD, WE LEAD AND THEN AFTER SEPTEMBER 1ST, AND WE'D BE WORKING ON IT TO GET THAT BLEND.THERE'S ALSO, UH, BECAUSE THE HOUSE BILL 7 38, WE HAVE TO STAY, UH, 30 DAYS AFTER WE, UH, ADOPT IT FOR ITS EFFECTIVE DATE.
SO WE STILL HAVE TO WAIT SOME TIME.
WE'RE JUST, UH, UH, THE TIMETABLE JUST DOESN'T WORK TO GET IT IN TIME BEFORE SEPTEMBER 1ST.
AND I, I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO YOU AND, UH, MS. DAY, YOUR STAFF FOR ALL THE TIME AND EFFORT YOU GUYS HAVE PUT INTO THIS, UH, ESPECIALLY IN THE RUSHED AND CONDENSED TIME PERIODS WE HAVE.
UM, MS. DAY AND EARLY IN YOUR PRESENTATION, YOU LISTED THE, THE FOUR OBJECTIVES OR GOALS MM-HMM
OF THE ORDINANCE DRAFTING PROCESS.
UH, AND OF COURSE, UM, I AGREE WITH EVERY ONE OF THOSE.
THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE THEY'RE CERTAINLY APPROPRIATE.
THE FIFTH GOAL IS TO PRESERVE THE DESIRABILITY AND ATTRACTIVENESS OF PLANO, UH, AS A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN LIVE AND WORK.
UH, PLANO DID NOT GET TO BE ONE OF THE MOST LIVABLE CITIES IN THE UNITED STATES BY BEING UGLY.
UM, I UNDERSTAND THE STANDPOINT OF A DEVELOPER.
HE WANTS TO BUILD A PROJECT THAT IS ECONOMICALLY SUCCESSFUL AND VIABLE AND, AND, UM, AND THAT'S WELL AND GOOD.
AND IT'S CERTAINLY UNDERSTANDABLE.
OUR PERSPECTIVE IS THE CITY AS A WHOLE, AND THEREFORE I THINK THERE IS A PLACE, UM, FOR DESIGN STANDARDS AS A WAY OF PRESERVING THE ATTRACTIVENESS AND DESIRABILITY OF THE CITY AS A WHOLE.
YOU CAN CERTAINLY GO TOO FAR WITH THAT, BUT NOT DOING ANY, I THINK WOULD BE A MISTAKE.
UM, THERE IS, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE IS A CERTAIN APARTMENT COMPLEX IN THIS CITY, WHICH I WILL NOT SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFY.
I'LL JUST SAY THERE IS ONE OUT THERE THAT I HAVE IN MIND.
UM, WHEN I FIRST LOOKED AT IT, MY FIRST THOUGHT WAS, AND I SAID TO MY WIFE, THIS LOOKS LIKE A MILITARY BARRACKS.
DESIGN STANDARDS CAN GO, YOU KNOW, TO A CERTAIN POINT TO TRY TO MAKE THESE DEVELOPMENTS ATTRACTIVE AND STILL BE VIABLE FOR, YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPERS THAT BUILD THEM.
SO I WOULD RECOMMEND, YOU KNOW, KEEPING SOME REASONABLE DESIGN STANDARDS.
FOR EXAMPLE, UH, FACADE ARTICULATION WOULD BE ONE, UH, UH, A MIX.
I DON'T KNOW HOW, HOW DETAILED WE WANT TO GET IN, IN SPECIFYING WHAT MIX, BUT A MIX OF, UM, TEXTURES AND TREATMENTS, UM, PORCHES, OVERHANGS, UM, THAT SORT OF THING.
WE ALREADY, WE'VE BEEN REGULATING THIS FOR SOME TIME.
I MEAN, WE HAVE, UH, LIMITS ON, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO HAVE A BREAK IN THE BUILDING AFTER SO MANY FEET BEFORE THEY START BUILDING ANOTHER ONE.
SO YOU DON'T JUST HAVE AN ENDLESS, YOU KNOW, BOX OF A BUILDING.
I, I THINK WE NEED TO PAY SOME ATTENTION TO ATTRACTIVENESS AND DESIRABILITY.
UM, JUST TO ECHO, COMMISSIONER BRUNO, ONE OF THE, THE LEADING QUESTION TO THE DESIGN STANDARDS WAS TO QUOTE, ENSURE THAT NEW MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT FITS THE COMMUNITY.
UM, AND THE REASON WHY WE PROPOSED A LEAD, ESSENTIALLY, IF I'M NOT, IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME RIGHT, WAS SO THAT WE ARE NOT LEFT HANGING WITH NOTHING IN PLACE FROM A GUIDANCE PERSPECTIVE.
UM, I DO APPRECIATE THE, UH, THE BLEND RECOMMENDATION, UH, BUT I STILL THINK THAT WE NEED SOMETHING TO GUIDE ANYONE WHO COMES IN IN THE NEXT 30, 60, 90 DAYS UNTIL WE GET OUR OWN PROPERLY DEVELOPED CODE.
UM, ALONG THE SAME LINES, AND CORRECT ME IF, UH, IF I'M WRONG, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY FOR THE ECA DISTRICTS, WHY WE PROHIBITED BALCONIES, UM, FACING THE TOLLWAY PARTLY WAS A, UH, LIVING STANDARDS, YOU KNOW, PARTICULATE MATTER AND WHAT HAVE YOU, BUT THERE WAS ALSO A DESIGN ELEMENT, UM, TO IT THAT WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING PAST PLANO, YOU DID NOT WANT TO SEE BALCONIES THAT COULD ESSENTIALLY HAVE THINGS HANGING OFF OF THEM AS ONE OF THE CRITERIA.
WHEN WE PUT THAT STANDARD IN, SO ALONG THE SAME, THOSE SAME LINES, I THINK IT, WE DON'T DO OURSELVES A LOT OF
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SERVICE IF WE REVERSE THAT, ESPECIALLY, UM, IF THOSE WERE THINGS THAT WE WOULD NOT HAVE REVERSED, IF NOT FOR THIS LEG, UM, LEGISLATION.AND THE LEGISLATION STILL PERMITS US TO KEEP THOSE CERTAIN ELEMENTS THAT FITS THE OVERALL CHARACTER AND BUILDING OF THE COMMUNITY COUNCIL MEMBER CARE.
WELL, SINCE WE'RE LOOKING AT GOALS, UH, I THINK ONE OF THE GOALS THAT I HAVE IS TO, TO HAVE MORE DIVERSE HOUSING STOCK.
MAYBE THAT DOESN'T APPLY TO OUR DISCUSSION HERE, BUT I THINK WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT OVERALL PLANS, THAT'S SOMETHING WE ABSOLUTELY SHOULD LOOK AT.
I, I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION IN, UH, COMMISSIONER ALI, MAYBE YOU COULD ADDRESS IT.
IS THERE URGENCY IN US DEFINING WHETHER IT'S LEADS OR GOLD OR, OR ANY OF THOSE SORTS OF THINGS? DO WE NEED TO DEFINE THAT NOW, RIGHT NOW? OR CAN WE, DO WE HAVE SOME TIME BECAUSE IT TAKES TIME FOR THESE PLANS TO GET TO US OR, OR TO BE ADMINISTRATIVELY APPLIED? APPLIED.
UM, TECHNICALLY I DON'T THINK THERE IS URGENCY UNLESS SOMEBODY HAS ALREADY PICKED OUT A SITE AND IS GONNA SUBMIT A PLAN, UM, IN THE NEXT 30 TO 60 DAYS.
UM, I DOUBT DEVELOPERS MOVE THAT FAST.
UM, BUT IN GENERAL, IN PLANNING, I'M ALWAYS, ESPECIALLY IF IT DOESN'T COST US ANYTHING, QUITE FRANKLY, I'LL ALWAYS BIAS TO GIVING PEOPLE THE RULES OF THE, OF THE, OF THE ROAD.
UM, SO THAT WITH AN INDICATION THAT WE INTEND TO WRITE OUR OWN RULES OF THE ROAD IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE LEGISLATION, SO THAT IT'S NOT A, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT DEVELOPING AND PLANNING INTO A VACUUM.
IT'S JUST, I THINK, FAIR TO THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY TO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE PLAYING BY.
AND MY RESPONSE TO THAT WOULD BE THAT THERE IS SUCH A THING AS VESTING IN, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT WORLD WHERE ONCE YOU BRING IN A DEVELOPMENT PLAN, YOU ARE VESTED UNDER THE CODES AT THE TIME THAT PLAN IS ADOPTED.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT IT SEPTEMBER 1ST WHEN THINGS CHANGE, IF WE DON'T HAVE THE LEAD STANDARDS OR SOMETHING ELSE, IF, IF THAT'S DESIRABLE, IF IT'S NOT ADOPTED, THE INDIVIDUALS WHO COME AND MEET WITH US, US WILL VEST UNDER THE, UNDER THE OLD STANDARDS OR THE STANDARDS OF THE TIME.
SO WE'RE LOOKING TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THEY WANT, ONCE PEOPLE CROSS THAT LINE OF SEPTEMBER 1ST AND HAVE THE RIGHT TO BUILD THAT, WE HAVE ADEQUATE STANDARDS IN PLACE TO MEET THE COMMUNITY'S INTEREST.
I JUST WANTED TO EMPHASIZE, UM, I AGREE WITH THE BUILDING OFFICIAL ABOUT, UH, KIND OF OVER THE COURSE OF TIME DRAFTING OUR OWN REGULATIONS.
UM, BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, INITIALLY WE IS USED RIGHT NOW, UM, IN A, IN A LARGE WAY IN THE COMMERCIAL AA SPACE AND DEVELOPERS VIEW THAT AS VERY DESIRABLE BECAUSE EVERYONE, WHETHER IT'S MULTIFAMILY OR COMMERCIAL OFFICE SPACE, THEY'RE ALL PART OF A REIT.
AND SO THEY'RE ALL EVENTUALLY RESOLD AND THAT ADDS VALUE TO THE ASSET BECAUSE IT DEFINES THE QUALITY OF THE ASSET.
SO I THINK IN THE SHORT TERM OR NEAR TERM, UH, ADOPT WEED, AND THEN I THINK OVER THE COURSE OF TIME WHEN THE BUILDING OFFICIAL HAS A CHANCE TO DEVELOP OUR OWN STANDARDS, IS, IS THE WAY TO GO.
DEPUTY MAYOR PROTON, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE RIGHT TIME TO BRING THIS UP, BUT UM, AS THE COMMISSIONER STATED EARLIER ABOUT THAT, GIVING A ROADMAP AND LETTING DEVELOPERS KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT, I MEAN, HISTORICALLY OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, OUR ZONING, EVERYTHING HAS BEEN A WAY FOR US TO, UM, REALLY RESPOND TO WHAT OUR COMMUNITY WANTS AND HOW WE WANNA DEVELOP OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, THAT A LOT OF THAT'S BEEN TAKEN OUT OF OUR HANDS NOW.
UM, AND SO WITH THAT IN MIND, UM, TO GIVE CREDIT TO COMMISSIONER BENDER FOR BRINGING UP THE, THE IDEA OF BEING PROACTIVE AND MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE, ARE TRYING TO ENTICE THOSE THAT ARE BUILDING IN OUR COMMUNITY TO CREATE SOMETHING THAT OUR, THAT, THAT WE WANT, THAT OUR COMMUNITY WANTS.
UM, WHILE I KNOW THERE AREN'T THINGS THAT WE CAN NECESSARILY HAVE IN PLACE BY SEPTEMBER 1ST AND WHATEVER IS IN PLACE, IF SOMEONE WANTED TO START THE PROCESS, THEY'LL BE VESTED THEN I THINK IT MIGHT BE USEFUL FOR PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT MAYBE WE ARE LOOKING AT OPPORTUNITIES AND WAYS TO INCENTIVIZE, UM, DEVELOPERS TO CREATE, UM, THINGS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT, THAT WE DO WANT.
AND I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW WE INCENTIVIZE.
UM, OF COURSE WE WANNA FOLLOW, FOLLOW THE RULES AND NOT DO ANYTHING OUT OF COMPLIANCE, BUT I WOULD BE
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LOOKING TO OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT FOR SOME DIRECTION ON, ON THINGS THAT, THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO, UM, MAKE AVAILABLE AS AN INCENTIVE TO ENCOURAGE BOTH BUSINESSES TO COME IN AND CREATE JOBS AND, AND HOUSING THAT THAT CATERS TO THEM AND CREATES THAT MAYBE THAT LIVE WORK FEEL, WALKABILITY, THINGS LIKE THAT.SO WHILE I KNOW THAT'S A LONGER DISCUSSION TO BE HAD AND NOT THINGS THAT WE CAN NECESSARILY PUT IN PLACE, AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S IMPORTANT TO GO AHEAD AND PROTECT THOSE THINGS THAT WE DO, UH, WANT TO HAVE IN PLACE AND, AND MAKE THOSE DECISIONS TODAY, UM, I CERTAINLY WOULD HATE FOR, UM, SOMEONE, A BUSINESS DEVELOPER TO MISS OUT ON AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THE CITY, TO, TO TOGETHER, TO PARTNER AND, AND CREATE SOMETHING REALLY FANTASTIC.
UM, NOT KNOWING THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO ALL OF US AND THAT WE WOULD BE WILLING TO DO.
SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE AS WELL.
SO I AM, I WANNA GO BACK TO THAT LEAD VERSUS GREEN COLD ISSUE BECAUSE I KNOW THE STAFF IS LOOKING FOR, UM, I GUESS ANSWERS FROM THE COMMISSION AND THE COUNCIL ABOUT THE, WHETHER WE'LL DO LIKE THE, THE OPTIONS, RIGHT? WHETHER WE ADOPT A, A GREEN CO, UH, ADOPT THE LEAD OR DO YOU KNOW THIS TEMPORARY AND, AND, UH, DO THE OTHER LATER.
MY QUESTION IS, I UM, I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER ALI THAT WE DON'T WANT TO CREATE A VACUUM THAT WHEN THE DEVELOPER COMPANY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO, RIGHT? BUT ON THE OTHER SIDE, I ALSO, UM, WANT THE STAFFS MAYBE HELP US EVALUATE IF WE ADOPTED THE LEAD CERTIFICATION RIGHT NOW AND CHANGE IT TO THE GREEN CODE MAYBE THREE MONTHS, SIX MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD, WOULD THAT CREATE A LOT OF, UM, I GUESS COST RELATED CHANGES TO THE DEVELOPERS? I MEAN, WE'RE CITY FRIENDLY TO THE DEVELOPERS OR TO THE COMMUNITIES, AND WE DON'T WANNA SAY, HEY, WE WANTED TO DO ALL THESE DOCUMENTATION TO MEET THE LEAD CERTIFICATION RIGHT NOW, BUT SIX MONTHS LATER YOU HAD TO ALL DO ALL DIFFERENT PROCESSES FOR ANOTHER SET OF THINGS.
SO I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE, THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THESE TWO.
SO MAYBE, UM, THE STAFF CAN HELP US EVALUATE THAT.
THE INFORMATION I WAS ABLE TO FIND ONLINE INDICATED THAT IT WAS LESS THAN 1% IMPACT TO THE PROJECT TO DO THE LEAD CERTIFICATION.
SO IF THAT GIVES YOU A, A LITTLE UNDERSTANDING JUST AT THE BASE LEVEL, WHICH IS WHAT WE WERE RECOMMENDING, UM, I ALSO THINK THAT, UM, MR. MAD'S RECOMMENDATION WAS TO GIVE PEOPLE FLEXIBILITY.
SO I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WOULD BE, IN MY OPINION, TOO MUCH DISRUPTION TO ALLOW LEAD NOW AND THEN GIVE THE OPTION OF LEAD OR GREEN CODE IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE THE GREEN CODE, UM, THEY WOULD STILL HAVE THE OPTION TO STAY WITH LEAD.
SO IT JUST ESSENTIALLY GIVES PEOPLE MORE OPTIONS IN THE FUTURE WHEN WE CAN, ARE PREPARED TO GO DOWN THAT PATH.
UM, JUST TO KIND OF TRY TO GET SOME CONCLUSION FOR THE STAFF, I, I THINK, AT LEAST WHAT I'M THINKING AND WHAT I BELIEVE I'M HEARING FROM THE COMMISSION IS THAT WE WOULD, LIKE, THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO SEE A, A STANDARD PUT IN PLACE BEFORE SEPTEMBER 1ST.
AND OBVIOUSLY THE ONLY STANDARD THAT REALLY CAN BE IMPLEMENTED THAT QUICKLY WOULD BE LEAD MM-HMM
I, I PRESUME THAT WOULD APPLY TO ALL MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT, NOT JUST THE ONES THAT ARE SUBJECT TO SENATES BILL EIGHT 40, BUT THAT WOULD BE ACROSS THE BOARD STANDARD FOR ANY NEW MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT COMING INTO PLANO WHILE WE STUDY AN ADDITIONAL OPTION, UM, TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THAT.
UM, A, A A LITTLE PRIDE OF AUTHORSHIP, I BELIEVE THE, THE REWRITE COMMITTEE IS ALREADY IN PLACE TO REVIEW THESE KIND OF TECHNICAL ISSUES THAT WE HAVE COMING IN FRONT OF US TO REWRITE THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
AND, UM, I GUESS MY RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL WOULD BE TO, IF WE COULD PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA OR ON THE ADDITIONAL CHARGE FOR THE REWRITE COMMITTEE AND, UH, UH, SEE IF MY CO-CHAIR DOWN AT THE END OF THE DAY AGREES WITH ME.
UH, 'CAUSE IT WILL BE MORE WORK FOR US.
BUT, UM, I THINK THAT'S THE APPROPRIATE FORUM FOR THAT, IF THAT'S AGREEABLE.
COMMISSIONER BRONSKI, I'LL LET YOU GO AHEAD AND SO YES, I DO.
I, I DEFINITELY THINK THAT THAT SHOULD MOVE FORWARD.
UH, ONE THING I'D LIKE US, I'D LIKE US TO THINK ABOUT AS WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, LEADS IS I, I HAVE A SMALL CONCERN AS IT RELATES TO THE, UH, GATHERING THE DATA FOR MULTIFAMILY, UM, IN POSSIBLY HINDERING SOME OF THE ACCURACY OF THE ASSESSMENTS FOR REAL WORLD PERFORMANCE IN MULTIFAMILY VERSUS WHAT WE WOULD NORMALLY SEE, UM, A LEAD STANDARD BEING APPLIED IN, IN
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OTHER AREAS.AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, SO I'M IN FAVOR OF MOVING FORWARD WITH LEADS AS WE HAVE IT HERE, BUT I WANT US TO KEEP IN MIND AS WE LOOK AT BRINGING THIS FULL LEADS IN GREEN TOGETHER, THAT, UH, FROM A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH I WAS DOING, THE LEAD SOMETIMES DOESN'T PRIORITIZE, UH, BUILDING RESILIENCY AND IN AREAS LIKE WE LIVE IN, UM, I DON'T WANT THEM TO POSSIBLY UNDERMINE ANY SUSTAINABILITY FOR THE MULTIFAMILY HOUSING AS A WHOLE.
AND SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE STUDIES AS WE INCORPORATE THAT, UH, ACROSS THE MULTI-FAMILY, UM, DEVELOPMENTS.
UH, LOLLY, UH, LIKE I THINK THERE IS A CODE, BUT I'M SORRY I DIDN'T HAVE THE TIME TO RESEARCH IT.
IT'S THE GREEN BELT, UH, GREENBELT, TEXAS, AND IT IS GEARED FOR MULTIFAMILY.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, LIKE, IT, UH, TALKS ABOUT YOU LIKE THE ENERGY AND ALSO THE CONSTRUCTION.
MS. OL, I'M SORRY, PUT YOUR, PUT YOUR MIC CLOSE.
WE YEAH, I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT.
YEAH, SO YOU LIKE, SO I THINK IT'S THE GREEN BUILD TEXAS, YOU KNOW, LIKE, AND IT IS GEARED FOR, UH, SPECIFICALLY MULTIFAMILY.
SO WE CAN LOOK AT THAT AND I, MAYBE I CAN DO A RESEARCH AND YOU KNOW, LIKE, UH, SEND IT OVER TO YOU TO LOOK AT IT BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, LIKE IT ALL, YOU KNOW, LIKE IT, UH, TACKLED THE CONSTRUCTION OF MULTIFAMILY BECAUSE YOU'RE LIKE, ESPECIALLY LIKE THE WOOD.
I KNOW THAT THERE ARE DIFFERENT, UH, SYSTEM, YOU KNOW, LIKE, UH, CONSTRUCTION SYSTEMS, BUT UH, BASICALLY YOU LIKE HOW TO CONSERVE AND THE WOOD AND YOU KNOW, LIKE IN ENERGY WATER AND ALL THESE.
UH, SO MAYBE I CAN, YOU KNOW, LIKE RESEARCH IT A LITTLE BIT MORE AND I CAN SEND YOU AND I APOLOGIZE I DIDN'T HAVE THE TIME TO YEAH.
ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? TOAN, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT CHART THAT SHOWED THE STEP BACKS? I MIGHT BE READING THIS WRONG, BUT GIVEN EIGHT 40, UM, REMOVES OUR ABILITY TO, UH, REQUIRE A SETBACK AND WE AUTOMATICALLY, UM, IF WE ARE GONNA LOOK AT STEP BACKS AND WE AUTOMATICALLY KIND OF HANDCUFF TO THE 0 61 50, IT DOES ALLOW UP TO A 25 FOOT SETBACK.
THAT'S THE MINIMUM SETBACK YOU CAN HAVE UNDER EIGHT 40.
CERTAINLY COUNCIL MEMBER CARE, I JUST WANT TO DRIVE HOME THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE EARLIER BY COMMISSIONER BENDER AND DEPUTY POTM HOMER.
I THINK WE CAN TURN THIS INTO AN OPPORTUNITY, AND THIS IS A GREAT WAY FOR US TO GET OUT IN FRONT OF IT AND HAVE THE KIND OF DEVELOPERS AND DEVELOPMENTS COME INTO THIS CITY.
I THINK THIS MAY BE, UH, OPENING SOME GREAT DOORS FOR US.
AND I, I JUST WANNA DRIVE THAT HOME THAT THIS IS, THIS COULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US.
WE APPRECIATE, UM, ALL THE COMMENTS.
UH, I KNOW, UH, CHRISTINA AND CELSO WILL, WILL WORK ON THAT AND WE'LL SEE IT, UH, AT OUR, OUR NEXT MEETING.
SO WITH THAT, NO FURTHER BUSINESS PLANNING AND ZONING AND THE CITY COUNCIL OR ADJOURN.