Jun 23, 2025 City Council

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I NOW DECLARE THAT THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL IS RECONVENED AND OPEN SESSION.

THAT ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT WILL BEGIN TONIGHT'S REGULAR MEETING, WITH THE INVOCATION LED BY PASTOR RITA KOPECKY WITH THE NEW HOPE CHRISTIAN FELLOWSHIP AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND TEXAS PLEDGE, LED BY GIRL SCOUT TROOP 6001.

WOULD YOU PLEASE RISE? FATHER. IT IS OUR PRIVILEGE TO COME AND SERVE YOU AT ANY LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT.

SINCE ALL GOVERNMENT IS UPON YOUR SHOULDERS AND WAS INVENTED BY YOU.

WE COME TO GIVE YOU HONOR FIRST. THANK YOU, LORD, FOR GIVING ATTENTION TO THE THINGS THAT MATTER TO US AS A COMMUNITY.

HELP US, LORD TO THINK ABOUT THINGS THAT MATTER FOR THE WHOLE COMMUNITY.

HELP THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE CHOICES THAT WILL MAKE A PATH NOT ONLY FOR PROSPERITY AND PROGRESS AND GOOD THINGS, BUT FOR THE INDIVIDUAL CRIES THAT ARE GOING TO AFFECT THOSE WHO ARE NOT IN THIS ROOM AND REPRESENTED BY THOSE WHO HAVE THEIR COMPLAINTS OR THEIR EAGER PROGRAMS ON THE AGENDA. LORD, WE CALL ON YOUR NAME TONIGHT, MOST OF ALL FOR WISDOM TO HANDLE ANYTHING OF A CITY TO HANDLE ANYTHING OF GOVERNMENT THAT AFFECTS ANYONE IS TO NEED YOUR WISDOM.

YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE WHO KNOWS THE FUTURE. SO WE GIVE THIS MEETING TO YOU AND WE BLESS YOUR NAME.

THANK YOU, LORD JESUS, FOR HEARING OUR CRY.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE TEXAS.

ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. BE SEATED.

SO WE HAVE A COUPLE OF PROCLAMATIONS. ONE OF THEM IS JULY IS NATIONAL PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH,

[Proclamation:  July is National Parks and Recreation month. Presented]

SO I WANT TO CALL FORWARD RON SMITH, PARKS AND REC DIRECTOR SUSIE HOGAN, WRITER, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF RECREATION, DAVE ANGELA'S ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PARKS, RENEE JORDAN, PARK PLANNING MANAGER.

AND PATRICIA JOHNSON, CHAIR OF PARKS AND RECREATION PLANNING BOARD.

WELCOME. THANK YOU GUYS. SO THIS PROCLAMATION IS FOR THE MONTH OF JULY 2025 WERE GETTING CLOSE. AND WHEREAS EVERY YEAR SINCE 1985, JULY HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED AS NATIONAL PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH,

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WHEREAS PARKS ARE AN INTEGRAL PART OF OUR COMMUNITY, PROVIDING RESIDENTS OF ALL AGES A PLACE TO EXPLORE NATURE AND LIVE IN AN ACTIVE LIFESTYLE.

PLANO HAS AN ABUNDANCE OF BEAUTIFUL PARKS TO ENJOY WHICH BENEFIT THE PHYSICAL, MENTAL AND ECONOMIC HEALTH OF OUR RESIDENTS.

PLANO PARKS AND RECREATION PRIORITIZES THE SAFETY OF CITIZENS, UTILIZING OUR PARKS BY IMPLEMENTING PROGRAMS LIKE EMERGENCY TRAIL MARKER SYSTEMS THAT ALLOW FIRST RESPONDERS TO BETTER IDENTIFY WHERE TO RESPOND IN AN EMERGENCY SITUATION BY USING MILE MARKERS.

AND WHEREAS, FOR OVER 50 YEARS, UNDER THE GUIDANCE OF THE VISIONARY LEADERS, THE PLANO PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, HAS EXCEEDED EXPECTATIONS BY DELIVERING INCOMPARABLE PROGRAMS AND SERVICES TO OUR RESIDENTS THROUGHOUT THE ROBUST PARK SYSTEM OF MORE THAN 4500 ACRES, WITH 162 PARKS, OVER 100 MILES OF TRAILS, NINE SWIMMING POOLS, FIVE RECREATION CENTERS TO WHICH NEARLY 80% OF OUR PLANO RESIDENTS LIVE WITHIN A TEN MINUTE WALK OF GREEN SPACES AND WORLD CLASS PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITIES. NOW, THEREFORE, I, JOHN MUNS, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PLANO, TEXAS, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM JULY 2025 PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH IN PLANO, AND I DO THEREBY ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO JOIN ME AND THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL IN ACKNOWLEDGING THE IMPORTANCE OF OUR PARKS AND RECREATION SYSTEM AND PROMOTING PLANO'S UNPARALLELED QUALITY OF LIFE.

WE COMMEND THE PLANO PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT FOR THEIR DEDICATION, AND WELCOME TO EVERYBODY FOR THEIR TOP RANKED PARK SYSTEM IN THE GREAT STATE OF TEXAS.

OKAY. WE HAVE ANOTHER PROCLAMATION. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE NOTICED.

[Proclamation:  June 24, 2025 is Elsie Cooke-Holmes Day in Plano.  Presented]

WE ALL SAID ELSIE, YOU HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS OR YOU HAVE A HUGE FAMILY.

I THINK A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH. SO THIS IS ELSIE COOK HOLMES DAY.

CONGRATULATIONS. YAY! NOW I'M GOING TO READ THIS. AND THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE OVER HERE, I THINK THE BEST CHANCE FOR US TO GET A GREAT PICTURE IS FOR ELSIE TO STAND HERE AT THE BOTTOM AND SHOOTING YOU UP, UP THIS WAY. SO WE'LL DO THAT IN A MINUTE.

BUT LET ME READ THIS. WHEREAS ELSIE COOK HOLMES ATTENDED THE UNIVERSITY OF MEMPHIS, WHERE A DECISION TO JOIN EPSILON KAPPA CHAPTER OF DELTA SIGMA THETA SORORITY SET HER ON A PATH OF FULFILLING AN INNER PASSION TO LEAD BY HELPING OTHERS AND INSPIRING THEM TO ACHIEVE THEIR OWN LIFE GOALS. AND WHEREAS ELSIE'S CAREER REFLECTS HER TENACITY AND DEDICATION TO LEADERSHIP AND PROFESSIONALISM IN EVERY ROLE SHE HAS ACCEPTED. THIS INCLUDES A 30 YEAR CAREER IN CORPORATE AMERICA AND FORTUNE 500 COMPANIES LIKE TEXAS INSTRUMENTS, ANDERSEN CONSULTING, PEPSICO. FOLLOWING THESE SUCCESSES, SHE WENT ON TO LAUNCH HER OWN COMPANY, COOK HOMES LLC, THAT ALLOWED HER TO HELP COUNTLESS OTHERS IN THEIR ENDEAVOR TO HONE EXECUTIVE LEVEL SKILLS.

AND WHEREAS COOK HOLMES, A RESIDENT OF PLANO, TEXAS, IS CURRENTLY COMPLETING HER SECOND AND FINAL TERM AS THE INTERNATIONAL PRESIDENT OF DELTA SIGMA THETA SORORITY, A GLOBAL ORGANIZATION OF MORE THAN 350,000 PREDOMINANTLY BLACK,

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AND WHEREAS, THROUGH HER VISION, DEDICATION, AND TRANSFORMATIVE LEADERSHIP, MRS. COOK HOLMES HAS MADE A PROFOUND IMPACT IN TEXAS THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES AND AROUND THE WORLD.

USING HER THEME FORWARD WITH FORTITUDE ENGAGING OUR SISTERHOOD, EMPOWERING OUR COMMUNITIES, ELEVATING OUR IMPACT. NOW, THEREFORE, I, JOHN MUNS, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PLANO, TEXAS, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM TUESDAY, JUNE 24TH, 2025, AS IS ELSIE COOK HOLMES DAY.

CONGRATULATIONS.

[APPLAUSE] OKAY.

[COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST]

THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING IS TO ALLOW UP TO THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER, WITH 30 TOTAL MINUTES ON ITEMS OF INTEREST OR CONCERN,

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THE COUNCIL MAY NOT DISCUSS THESE ITEMS, BUT MAY RESPOND WITH FACTUAL OR POLICY INFORMATION.

THE COUNCIL MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA, AND WE DO HAVE THREE SPEAKERS OR THREE DIFFERENT SPEAKERS.

TWO ARE ON ZOOM, SO LET ME GET OUR FIRST ONE IN.

THE FIRST SPEAKER IS RON JOHNSON.

MR. JOHNSON, IF YOU'LL GO AHEAD AND TURN YOUR CAMERA ON.

MR. JOHNSON.

ALL RIGHT.

MR. JOHNSON, GO AHEAD.

OKAY, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SPEAKER, WHICH IS CRYSTAL CURRY.

MISS CURRY, PLEASE ACCEPT THE PANELIST INVITE WHEN YOU COME IN AND TURN ON YOUR CAMERA.

OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH THE PEOPLE IN THE ROOM.

WILLIAM PETERS AND AIDAN WAY.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYOR MUNS, THANK YOU FOR GIVING THE PUBLIC THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IN FRONT OF YOU.

MY NAME IS WILLIAM PETERS. THIS IS AIDAN WAY, AND THIS IS DANIELLE RODMAN.

ME AND DANIELLE SPOKE IN FRONT OF THIS BODY BACK IN MARCH, BUT WE WANTED TO COME BACK AND REINTRODUCE OURSELVES AND OUR ORGANIZATION TO ALL OF YOU, BECAUSE HALF THIS BODY IS NEW AS A RESULT OF THE LOCAL ELECTIONS IN MAY.

WE ARE WITH A GROUP CALLED POLITICS FOR TEENS OVER AT PLANO WEST SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL.

OUR GOAL IS TO INCREASE VOTER TURNOUT AND INCREASE POLITICAL PARTICIPATION AMONG YOUNG PEOPLE.

AIDAN IS GOING TO SHARE WITH YOU SOME EXAMPLES OF HOW WE ACCOMPLISH THAT GOAL.

YEAH. SO ALL OF US ARE RISING SENIORS THIS YEAR, AND SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE THIS YEAR.

AND SO REALLY, OUR GOAL FOR THIS NEXT FOLLOWING SCHOOL YEAR IS TO GET OUR PEERS EXCITED ABOUT POLITICS, GET OUR PEERS INTERESTED IN VOTING, AND GET OUR PEERS KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL DOES, BECAUSE YOU GUYS KNOW YOU'RE MANAGING PARKS, AS WE RECOGNIZED EARLIER, AND YOU'RE MANAGING OUR ROAD SYSTEM, AND THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF THINGS THAT A LOT OF OUR PEERS DON'T KNOW ABOUT AND DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE DIRECT IMPACT THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS ON US.

SO WHAT WE DO IN OUR MEETINGS IS WE HAVE SOME EDUCATIONAL LESSONS FOR OUR PEERS THAT ARE NONPARTIZAN ON A TOPIC OF THEIR CHOOSING.

SO WE'VE TALKED ON EVERYTHING FROM IMMIGRATION TO ABORTION TO THE RUSSIA-UKRAINE CONFLICT.

AND THEN AFTERWARDS, WHEN THEY'VE HAD A TIME TO DEVELOP THEIR OWN OPINIONS AND LEARN ABOUT THOSE TOPICS, WE GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS WITH THEIR PEERS.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE SEE PEOPLE CHANGING THEIR OPINIONS WHEN THEY HEAR WHAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE TO SAY.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS A GOAL OF OURS IS TO YOU FOSTER THIS SAFE SPACE FOR POLITICS DISCUSSION, WHICH CAN BE AT TIMES INFLAMMATORY AND DIVISIVE.

AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AS AN ORGANIZATION.

ANOTHER WAY THAT WE TRY AND FOSTER THIS POLITICAL ADVOCACY IS THROUGH HOLDING COUNCIL MEETINGS WHERE PEOPLE LIKE Y'ALL COME AND SPEAK FOR OUR PEERS.

I MEAN, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'VE DONE THIS AT THE TOP LEFT CORNER OF OUR HANDOUTS, AND ONE OF THE MAIN GOALS THAT WE TRY AND ACHIEVE WITH THESE MEETINGS IS NOT JUST Y'ALL GETTING TO SPEAK TO OUR PEERS. I MEAN, Y'ALL, HALF OF Y'ALL ARE A NEWLY ELECTED COUNCIL, SO Y'ALL HAVE NEW IDEAS TO SHARE AND NEW OPINIONS FOR OUR PEERS TO HEAR, BUT ALSO FOR THEM TO GET THE CHANCE TO ASK QUESTIONS AND INPUT THEIR BELIEFS AND GET TO TALK TO Y'ALL AND GET TO INTERACT WITH Y'ALL.

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AND SO IF Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO GET INVOLVED WITH THAT, OUR CONTACT INFORMATION IS ON THE SECOND PAGE OF THE HANDOUT.

SO WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING FROM ALL OF Y'ALL. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MR. JOHNSON. IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, IF YOU WILL UNMUTE AND TURN YOUR CAMERA ON.

OKAY. WE WILL MOVE ON. OKAY. LET'S MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

ITEMS MAY BE REMOVED FROM THIS AGENDA FOR INDIVIDUAL DISCUSSION BY A COUNCIL MEMBER, THE CITY MANAGER, OR ANY CITIZEN. THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL ESTABLISH TIME LIMITS BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKER REQUESTS.

OKAY. GO AHEAD. MARIA. MR. MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

EXCEPT FOR L AND R.

COUNCILMEMBER DOWNS. I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. SO I HAVE A MOTION.

AND SECOND, TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM L AND ITEM R.

PLEASE VOTE. MOTION PASSES 8 TO 0.

ITEM L. ITEM L TO APPROVE AN EXPENDITURE FOR REIMBURSEMENT OF LANDSCAPING SERVICES.

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To approve an expenditure for reimbursement for landscaping services in the estimated amount of $102,271 to Willow Bend West V Home Owners Association for the Engineering Department; and authorizing the City Manager to execute all necessary documents. Approved

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR MUNS AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS CLAY LIPSCOMB. I'M THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT PROGRAM ENGINEERING MANAGER HERE FOR THE CITY OF PLANO.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE REGARDING THIS ITEM.

COUNCIL MEMBER LAVONNE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

I HAVE A SIMPLE QUESTION ABOUT HOW THIS GETS INTO YOUR BUDGET FOR THESE WALL REPLACEMENTS. SO WE HAVE A LIMITED AMOUNT OF DOLLARS FOR THIS.

WHEN YOU'RE DECIDING ON A PARTICULAR SITE THAT IS GOING TO HAVE A CITY SPONSORED AND PAID FOR WALL REPLACEMENT, IS THE LANDSCAPING INCLUDED IN THAT PRELIMINARY ESTIMATE.

SO YOU KNOW HOW MANY OF THESE PROJECTS YOU CAN DO, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT INVOLVES LANDSCAPING OF THIS NATURE OR THIS AMOUNT.

SURE. SO WE COMPLETE SCREENING MALLS LIKE THIS ALL OVER THE CITY.

AND MOST OF THOSE INSTANCES, THE LANDSCAPING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT INVOLVING ARE JUST ENTRYWAYS INTO NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND SO WE DO EVALUATE THAT AS PART OF THE PRELIMINARY COST AND INCLUDED IN OUR, IN OUR PROJECT BUDGETS.

AND IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, IT'S A VERY LARGE AREA THAT SURROUNDS THIS ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THAT THEY MAINTAIN. AND AS FAR AS INCLUDING THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, WE USUALLY DO PRELIMINARY ANALYSIS ON WHAT TYPES OF PLANTS ARE THERE, WHAT TYPES OF FLOWERS AND THEN COST THOSE OUT SO THAT WE HAVE AN IDEA WITH OUR TEAM, OUR CONSULTANT, OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS OF WHAT THOSE COSTS ARE GOING TO BE.

AND SO IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, WE RECEIVED, YOU KNOW, AN ESTIMATE FROM THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION'S ACTUAL REPRESENTATIVE THAT COMPLETES AND MAINTAINS ALL THEIR LANDSCAPING AND THEN NEGOTIATED AND VETTED THOSE COSTS AGAINST WHAT WE BUDGET.

AS FAR AS THAT PROJECT GOES FOR LANDSCAPING FOR THIS.

AND AGAIN, IT'S GENERALLY NEVER THIS LARGE OF AN AREA.

THIS IS AGAIN SURROUNDING. THEY'VE GOT LARGE SETBACKS AND, AND LOTS OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF PLANTING.

PRETTY INTRICATE LANDSCAPING THAT THEY MAINTAIN AS PART OF AGREEMENT WITH PARKS.

SO IT'S JUST SIMPLY A REIMBURSEMENT THE HOA AND TAKING OUT OF THE PROJECT AND CONSTRUCTION BUDGET.

THIS IS PART OF YOUR ANNUAL CIP PROJECTS. CORRECT.

THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY CORRECT AS PART OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM THAT COMES THROUGH EVERY SINGLE YEAR. OKAY.

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OKAY, I HAVE A SECOND. ONE SECOND. THANK YOU.

I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND TO APPROVE ITEM L. PLEASE VOTE.

THANK YOU. MOTION PASSES 8 TO 0. ITEM R, THANK YOU GUYS.

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To approve a revised Parks and Recreation Fee Schedule for the use of certain facilities and memberships; and providing an effective date.  Adopted Resolution No. 2025-6-20(R)

AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS SUSIE HERGENRADER, AND I'M THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR OVER RECREATION FOR PLANO PARKS AND RECREATION.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. I'M SORRY.

GO AHEAD. STEVE. THANK YOU, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR.

I APPRECIATED THE FACT THAT YOU SUPPLIED THE COUNCIL WITH A BEFORE AND AFTER APPROACH TO THIS.

WHAT YOUR INCREASES ARE. AND I HAD ASKED YOU FOR FURTHER CLARIFICATION ON SENIORS RELATED TO THE COST FOR SENIORS WHO WANT TO HAVE A MEMBERSHIP FOR ALL OF THE RECREATION CENTERS NOT JUST THE SAM JOHNSON.

AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE SAM JOHNSON IS INCLUDED WHEN THEY HAVE A FULL PASS.

THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. AND THAT COST FOR THE SAM JOHNSON YOU'RE RECOMMENDING GOES UP JUST A FEW DOLLARS FROM, I BELIEVE, 15 TO 17. NO, WE ARE NOT RECOMMENDING ANY INCREASE FOR SAM JOHNSON RECREATION.

SO IT'LL STAY AT 15. CORRECT. OKAY. AND BUT THERE IS A MILD INCREASE FOR THE SENIOR PRICE FOR THOSE SENIORS WHO WANT TO GO FOR THE FULL PASS. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

OKAY. I MAKE A MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF ITEM R.

OKAY. ACTUALLY, I HAD A QUESTION FIRST, IF WE COULD.

YOU WANT ME TO SECOND FIRST? YEAH, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

I WILL SECOND THERE. GO AHEAD. HAVE YOU HAD AN IMPACT STUDY ON HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL DROP THEIR MEMBERSHIP BASED ON AN INCREASE IN THE FEE? SO WE HAVE NOT HAD A FORMAL STUDY, BUT WE DO CALCULATE THAT INTO OUR PRICE WHEN WE ESTABLISH THE FEES, WE FIGURE THAT INTO THE REVENUE THAT WILL BE GENERATED.

WE TAKE A PORTION, A PERCENTAGE THAT WE FEEL WILL NOT RENEW THEIR MEMBERSHIPS AND WE DEDUCT THAT FROM THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE WE WILL GET FROM THE FEE INCREASE. ARE YOU AT BREAK EVEN THEN IN YEAR ONE OR I MEAN TELL ME A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT.

YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IF YOU IF YOU HAVE FEWER RESIDENTS BUT THE FEE GOES UP.

RIGHT. SO THESE ARE VERY RELATIVELY SMALL INCREASES.

SO THE PERCENTAGE THAT WE APPLIED I BELIEVE WAS 5%.

FOR EVERY 5% ADDITIONAL THAT WE CONSIDERED INCREASING THE FEE, WE INCREASED THAT AMOUNT THAT WE WOULD LOSE.

SO I BELIEVE THE FEES THAT WE ARE PROPOSING, WE CALCULATED A 5% LOSS.

TYPICALLY THEY DON'T STAY AWAY LONG. AND FROM WHAT WE'VE SEEN, WE RECOUP THAT.

RIGHT OFF THE BAT TYPICALLY IN THE NEXT YEAR.

AND THESE FEE INCREASES ARE PRIMARILY TO COVER THE COST FROM INFLATION AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THAT IS CORRECT. THANK YOU. CORRECT. YES. THANK YOU.

DIRECTOR. I WAS FORTUNATE TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN YOUR PRESENTATION WITH THE PARKS AND REC BOARD, AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THIS THESE FEES WERE APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY THROUGH THE PARKS AND REC BOARD.

THAT IS CORRECT. AND THEN ALSO WHEN WE DID A COMPARATIVE ANALYSIS TO THE COMMERCIAL RECREATION AND PHYSICAL FITNESS AREAS, BY FAR THE CITY'S PARKS AND REC FEES ARE CHEAPER THAN ANY ALTERNATIVE TO FAMILIES, SINGLE MEMBERS AND TO SENIORS. SO I THINK THE PARKS AND REC NEEDS TO BE APPLAUDED FOR BEING BEING ABLE TO KEEP THE COST DOWN.

THERE ARE SOME COSTS WE CAN'T KEEP DOWN BECAUSE OF LABOR INCREASES IN ELECTRICITY AND MECHANICAL SYSTEMS. BUT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB WITH THE AMOUNT OF FEES THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO YOU, SO I APPLAUD YOU ON THAT.

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PLEASE VOTE. MOTION PASSES 8 TO 0. LET'S GO AHEAD

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To approve an expenditure in an amount up to $8,150,000 for the purchase of real property located at 3805 Timberline Drive from Plano Independent School District; and authorizing the City Manager to execute all necessary documents. Approved

THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO POM TO APPROVE AN EXPENDITURE AN AMOUNT UP TO $8,150,000 FOR THE PURCHASE OF REAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3805 TIMBERLINE DRIVE FROM PLANO INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS MATTHEW YEAGER.

I AM THE CITY'S REAL ESTATE MANAGER. THIS ITEM ONE TONIGHT BEFORE YOU IS FOR THE APPROVAL OF EXPENDITURE TO PURCHASE ARMSTRONG MIDDLE SCHOOL.

THIS IS ONE OF THE THREE CAMPUSES THAT THE CITY HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO PURCHASE FROM THE DISTRICT AFTER THEY'VE BEEN DECLARED SURPLUS.

THE OTHER MIDDLE SCHOOL DECLARED SURPLUS, CARPENTER MIDDLE SCHOOL IS BEING RETAINED BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

ARMSTRONG MIDDLE SCHOOL. THE CAMPUS IS 17.85 ACRES.

WE'VE NEGOTIATED A PRICE WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OF $8.15 MILLION.

THE ZONING IS SF SEVEN, SO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

THAT'S TYPICAL OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN EAST PLANO.

THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LISTS IT AS NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE FUTURE, SO NO DRAMATIC CHANGES ARE ANTICIPATED.

IT'S SITUATED SOUTH OF BOB WOODRUFF AND THE FUTURE LOS RIOS PARKS.

TONIGHT, THE REASON IT WASN'T ORIGINALLY WITH THE OTHER TWO ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS YOU APPROVE THE PURCHASE FOR IN MAY IS DUE TO A DEED RESTRICTION.

THAT DEED RESTRICTION PRIMARILY FRONTS VALENCIA DRIVE.

THE DEED RESTRICTED AREA IS 2.66 ACRES ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE CAMPUS.

IT CAN BE REMOVED BY THE CONSENT OF 75% OF MEMBERS IN A NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE EAST OF THE PROPERTY.

THERE ARE ALSO POTENTIALLY OTHER MEANS OF ABSOLVING THAT DEED RESTRICTION.

IT'S BEEN PART OF THE DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD WITH THE DISTRICT. THE ANTICIPATED COURSE OF ACTION IS TO PURSUE THE REMOVAL OF THAT DEED RESTRICTION, BUT IF IT'S UNABLE TO BE REMOVED, WE PLAN TO NEGOTIATE FOR WHAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT CAN PASS ON TO THE CITY.

AND WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. ALL RIGHT.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR MATT? DO I HAVE A MOTION? HERE WE GO.

MR. MAYOR, I'M MOVED TO APPROVE ITEM OF INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION, NUMBER ONE.

OKAY, MR. MAYOR. I SECOND THAT. OKAY. ANY ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER ONE AND THE INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION, PLEASE VOTE. MOTION PASSES 8 TO 0. GOING BACK TO PRELIMINARY OPEN MEETING. WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM THREE.

DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION REGARDING THE ARTS PLAN.

HI MICHELLE. GOOD EVENING. I'M MICHELLE HAWKINS.

I'M THE DOWNTOWN PLANO MANAGER AND I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE DAVID SAUNDERS.

HE'S THE CULTURAL PLANNING GROUP WHO'S THE CONSULTANTS THAT THAT LED ON THIS PROJECT.

AND WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THIS IS REALLY AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNCIL TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE AND DIRECTION.

YOU'VE RECEIVED THE THE PLAN AND HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THIS.

AND IT'S A CHANCE FOR YOU ALL TO TO GIVE US A TACTICAL OR STRATEGIC PLAN OF ACTION THAT YOU WOULD LIKE US TO, TO START PRIORITIZING AND MOVING FORWARD WITH.

AND I KNOW COUNCILMAN LEVINE HAS SOME COMMENTS AS WELL.

THANK YOU. I HAVE COLLECTED A LOT OF THE COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS FROM STAFF AND THE COMMUNITY ARTS ORGANIZATIONS AND SUCH AND HAVE PUT TOGETHER WHAT I THINK ARE FOUR KEY AREAS THAT WE CAN PROVIDE DIRECTION TO STAFF THAT WILL ENABLE THEM TO MOVE THIS PLAN FORWARD, BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE NEED TO DO HERE TODAY IS TO GIVE DIRECTION TO STAFF TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.

ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS HAS BEEN TO CREATE A DEDICATED ARTS DEPARTMENT, APARTMENT, BUT WE'RE NOT THERE YET IN TERMS OF HAVING THE BUDGET TO DO THAT. SO IT'S BEEN SUGGESTED THAT THERE BE KIND OF AN ARTS RELATED AD HOC COMMITTEE OF

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I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, BUT ALSO THAT WE INCLUDE, WHENEVER POSSIBLE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE ARTS ORGANIZATION SPECIFICALLY CAP, SO THAT THEY CAN BE WORKING IN TANDEM WITH THE STAFF ON THE BEGINNING AND IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS PROGRAM TO GET EARLY BUY IN AND HELP ACCELERATE THE PROCESS. SO MY RECOMMENDATION ON THIS FIRST ELEMENT IS TO APPROVE THE FORMATION OF THIS CROSS-DEPARTMENTAL COMMITTEE WITH COMMUNITY REPRESENTATION.

THE SECOND IS A VERY DIRE NEED FOR A CONSOLIDATED ARTS CALENDAR AND COMMUNICATIONS PROCESS.

RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE A A PROGRAM WHERE SOME ARTS PROGRAMS ARE LISTED HERE.

SOME ARE LISTED THERE. AND MANY OF THE ARTS ORGANIZATIONS DON'T REALLY HAVE A, A GOOD FEEL FOR HOW TO GET THEIR PROGRAMS LISTED AND SUCH. THIS IS GETTING BETTER, BUT I THINK IT NEEDS TO GET MUCH BETTER.

AND THE STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED THAT THEY PUT TOGETHER A COMPREHENSIVE DIRECTORY.

IN ADDITION. AN ARTS ORGANIZATION DIRECTORY THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO GIVE OUR RESIDENTS A LIST OF THE VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS IN THE COMMUNITY. A RESOURCE RESOURCE CENTER FOR LOCAL GROUPS THAT WOULD GIVE THE GROUPS INFORMATION THAT THEY CAN USE TO IMPROVE THEIR PROGRAMS. ADDING MARKETING AND PROMOTIONAL TOOLKITS, A PUBLIC ART MAP AND VENUE GUIDE SO RESIDENTS WOULD BE ABLE TO FIND THE VARIOUS DIFFERENT ART VENUES IN OUR CITY.

AND VOLUNTEER AND ENGAGEMENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR RESIDENTS AND DO IT ALL WITH MULTICULTURAL ACCESSIBILITY AND ENHANCEMENTS.

I STRONGLY AGAIN ENCOURAGE THAT WE GIVE DIRECTION FOR THEM TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS.

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THEM FOLLOW A PLAN FOR GETTING FOLKS TO SIGN UP FOR THIS.

THAT WOULD ALSO UTILIZE THINGS LIKE THE MODEL THAT PLANO MOMS USES TODAY TO REALLY SEND OUT ON A VERY FREQUENT BASIS WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE CITY THAT WORKS FOR FAMILIES? THEY REALLY DO A GOOD JOB OF MAKING YOU AWARE OF THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON, NOT JUST FOR FOR A MONTH, BUT WHAT'S GOING ON SPECIFICALLY THIS WEEKEND, WHAT'S GOING ON FOR FAMILIES, WHAT'S GOING ON FOR THE HOLIDAYS? THEY REALLY DO A GOOD JOB ON THAT. AND THEY ARE A GOOD EXAMPLE.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND PRIORITIZING THE MARKETING AND COMMUNICATIONS COMPONENT TO BOOST AWARE AND USING VARIOUS TOOLS TO BOOST AWARENESS AND PARTICIPATION. THIRDLY THE ARTS FUNDING NEEDS TO BE OVERHAULED.

THERE ARE SEVERAL SUGGESTIONS THAT WERE OUTLINED IN A MEMO FROM PETER BREWSTER.

THE APRIL 24TH MEMO SUGGESTING THAT THERE WOULD BE A, A TIME PERIOD DURING WHICH THIS WOULD BE PHASED IN. THERE NEEDS TO BE A LOT OF CONSIDERATION DONE BECAUSE BOTH LARGE GROUPS OF LARGE AND SMALL, AS CHANGES ARE MADE IT'S GOING TO HAVE AN IMPACT ON THEM.

I WOULD ALSO AGAIN LIKE TO SEE THE STAFF INVOLVE ARTS GROUPS, BOTH LARGE AND SMALL, IN THE DISCUSSION AND DESIGN OF THIS GRANT PROGRAM SO THAT AGAIN, WE CAN WE CAN MINIMIZE THE CONCERNS THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE LATER ON WHEN WHEN WE BRING SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO THE TABLE.

I'D ALSO LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT BECAUSE NOT EVERY ARTS ORGANIZATION DOES FIT THE BILL OF PUTTING HEADS AND BEDS OR OR BRINGING IN RESTAURANT NIGHTS, WHICH WORK ALONG WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX THAT THE STAFF INITIATE THE FORMATION OF A FRIENDS OF THE ARTS GROUP OR A FOUNDATION.

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NOW, NOT WAITING UNTIL WE'VE FURTHER DOWN THE PATH.

SO MY RECOMMENDATION ON THIS IS TO BEGIN THE GRANT PROGRAM REVIEW WITH COMMUNITY ARTS GROUP INPUT AND FORM THE FOUNDATION TO BROADEN FINANCIAL SUPPORT FOR THE ARTS. AND FINALLY THERE NEEDS TO BE A REVIEW OF VENUES.

WHAT WE HAVE FOUND IN LOOKING AT THE VARIOUS DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS IS THAT THE COURTYARD THEATER, WHICH HAS JUST OVER 3300 SEATS, IS IN VERY HIGH DEMAND.

BUT MANY OF THE PEOPLE WHO BOOK THE THE COURTYARD COULD PROBABLY GET AWAY WITH A SMALLER VENUE.

THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO 100 OR EVEN 50 SEATS, BUT WE ALSO HAVE A HUGE NEED RIGHT NOW FOR REHEARSAL SPACE, WHICH DOESN'T NEED MUCH IN THE WAY OF SEATS. SO I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND IDENTIFYING SMALLER, FLEXIBLE VENUES, POTENTIALLY EVEN ON A TEMPORARY OR ADAPTIVE REUSE BASIS THAT COULD RELIEVE THE PRESSURE ON THE EXISTING FACILITIES AND ALLOW FOR MORE PERFORMANCES TO TAKE PLACE IN PLANO.

THIS WOULD FREE UP THE AVAILABILITY OF THE COURTYARD TO SUPPORT EVEN MORE LOCAL ARTS ACTIVITY.

AND PART OF THAT ALSO, WHEN WE RECONSIDER THE FUNDING CRITERIA I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND DESIGNATING THE EISEMANN CENTER, WHICH IS ON OUR BORDER WITH RICHARDSON AS AN ELIGIBLE LOCAL VENUE.

AND I THINK THIS WILL HELP MANY GROUPS QUALIFY FOR GRANTS AND ENCOURAGE THEM TO REMAIN PLANO BASED, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A FACILITY THAT CAN FIT THOSE GROUPS THAT NEED 1000 OR MORE SEATS BECAUSE OF SCHEDULING RESTRICTIONS WITH THE ROBINSON.

AND WE REALLY NEED TO KEEP THOSE GROUPS SUCH AS THE SYMPHONY FEELING LIKE PLANO IS THEIR HOME.

SO MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO FORM A SEPARATE COMMITTEE, POSSIBLY VOLUNTEER CENTER TO ASSESS CURRENT AND POTENTIAL VENUE OPTIONS AND EXPLORE SHORT TERM SOLUTIONS WHILE THE BROADER IMPLEMENTATION PROCEEDS.

AND IF I CAN QUICKLY SUMMARIZE THAT. FORM A CROSS-DEPARTMENTAL IMPLEMENTATION COMMITTEE PRIORITIZED DEVELOPMENT OF A ROBUST ARTS CALENDAR AND COMMUNICATION STRATEGY, REDESIGN THE ARTS GRANT PROGRAM, AND CONDUCT A NEW VENUE STUDY.

SO YES. THANK YOU. SO I HAVE REVIEW. COUNCILMAN LEVINE'S MEMO IS FOUR PAGES LONG, BUT I ACTUALLY CHEATED AND WENT ALL THE WAY TO THE BACK WHERE IT SAYS A SUMMARY.

AND THERE ARE FOUR POINTS IN THE SUMMARY, AND I THE WAY THAT HE PRIORITIZED IT, I WOULD REVERSE IT.

I BELIEVE THAT GETTING SOME TYPE OF FORUM FORUM OR A VENUE THAT IS FOR PLANO.

I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. I DON'T BELIEVE IN GOING TO RICHARDSON AND USING THEIR PERFORMING ARTS CENTER AND MAKE THAT OUR PLANO BASED OUR ART EVENT CENTER. I THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH VENUES HERE IN PLANO TO MAKE THAT YOU KNOW, AVAILABLE FOR A LOT OF OUR PLANO CULTURAL ORGANIZATIONS. AND I WAS TALKING TO DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, AND SHE EVEN MENTIONED THAT THERE ARE SOME AREAS WHERE IT'S IT SITS VACANT UNTIL IT'S USED, AND WE COULD ACTUALLY UTILIZE THAT.

WE DON'T HAVE TO CREATE ANOTHER YOU KNOW, PLACE WHERE WE, YOU KNOW, WE COULD HAVE PERFORMANCES OR FOR EVENTS.

CULTURAL EVENTS. PLANO EVENT CENTER IS ANOTHER PLACE WHERE WE COULD ACTUALLY MAKE IT LARGER, MAKE IT SMALL FOR PEOPLE. AND I LIKE TO SEE THAT THAT BE A PRIORITY IN TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR PLANO CULTURAL ORGANIZATIONS STAY IN PLANO AND THEN THAT OUR GRANT MONEY IS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO BE PARTICIPATING IN PLANO.

I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. AND GOING BACK BACKWARDS.

SO I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THE FOUR THAT HE'S ALREADY GONE THROUGH.

BUT I THINK MY MY PRIORITY DEFINITELY IS LET'S KEEP THE THE CULTURAL EVENTS HERE AND LET'S SEE HOW WE CAN DO IT SO THAT THEY CAN BE HERE. AND THE GRANTS SHOULD ALWAYS BE HERE.

WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IN OTHER ORGANIZATIONS COMING INTO PLAY KNOWING AND TRYING TO, YOU KNOW,

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SO IN THAT RESPECT, I'M JUST GOING TO LEAVE IT AT THAT.

THANK YOU. AS I MENTIONED EARLIER IN THE FIRST, PREVIOUS PREVIOUS PRESENTATION, I'M A BIG FAN OF THE ARTS.

I THINK THE CITY NEEDS IT NEEDS TO STAY RELEVANT AND VIBRANT, AND ARTS HELPS WITH THAT.

THAT BEING SAID WE'RE STUCK BETWEEN THAT PROVERBIAL ROCK AND HARD PLACE WITH REGARDS TO FUNDING.

SO I THINK WHEN WE GO INTO THIS, WE'RE THIS IS SOMEWHAT OF A LONG TERM STRATEGY.

I SLIGHTLY DISAGREE WITH THE MAYOR PRO TEM. ON THE ORDER HERE, I CERTAINLY THINK THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT A CULTURAL ARTS DEPARTMENT.

I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO STAY AND START AT THE BEGINNING TO WHERE WE CAN HAVE A FOCUS ON WHICH DIRECTION WE'RE GOING TO GO WITHOUT WITH MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE ARTS COMMUNITY THAT'S BOTH PERFORMING AND VISUAL ARTS WHILE AT THE SAME TIME HELPING WITH OUR FESTIVALS.

I THINK THAT WITH, WITH THAT DIRECTORSHIP THERE, WE'RE ABLE TO FILL OUT THE CALENDAR.

THIS IS WHERE THE COMMUNITY, THE COLLABORATIVE ARTS PROGRAM, CAN COME IN AND SAY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS WEEK, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT WEEK. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE THIRD WEEK IN SEPTEMBER, THE BALLOON FESTIVAL.

YOU KNOW THE CHAMBERLAIN BALLET KNOWS WHEN THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE THE NUTCRACKER, THOUGH I'D LIKE TO SEE THEM HERE IN PLANO.

I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A FACILITY THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO MEET ALL THEIR REQUIREMENTS.

SO THAT'S WHY WE GO TO THE ICEMAN. AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO BUILD A FACILITY TO SUIT THE THE CHAMBERLAIN BALLET FOR THE NUTCRACKER, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO KEEP THAT VENUE FULL TO PAY FOR ITSELF.

THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT SCALE OF ACTIVITY THAT YOU NEED TO MAKE IT PROFITABLE.

SO I THINK WE TAKE THIS IN BABY STEPS. I THINK WE, AGAIN, FORM THE LEADERSHIP TEAM.

WE'LL HAVE TO COME UP WITH A WAY TO FUND THAT.

THIS IS WHERE I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE NEED TO LOOK AT IS CORPORATE SPONSORSHIP.

FOR ANY OF THE ACTIVITIES, WHETHER IT IS ANY OF THE PLAYS, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE CERTAINLY GOING TO HAVE TO START WORKING ON.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU GO TO NEW YORK AND YOU SEE A PLAYBILL AT THE BACK OF THE PLAYBILL, THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF ADVERTISING.

WE STILL NEED TO DO THAT, I THINK, WITH ALL THESE ACTIVITIES.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE THESE STEPS INCREMENTALLY SMALL.

BUT I THINK THE FIRST STEP IS CERTAINLY GET THE LEADERSHIP GOING AND THEN FILL OUT THE CALENDAR AND THEN LET'S SEE WHERE WE'RE GOING AND THEN PROGRESSIVELY MOVE THROUGH THAT.

DEPUTY MAYOR. THANK YOU, MAYOR. MAYOR PRO TEM, I DON'T REMEMBER SAYING THAT THERE WAS PLENTY OF SPACE.

MAYBE WE WERE SPEAKING ABOUT A SPECIFIC SCENARIO, BUT I DO BELIEVE IT'S A PRIORITY TO HAVE MORE SPACES FOR BOTH PERFORMANCES AND FOR REHEARSAL SPACE. I DO THINK THERE ARE SOME SPACES AVAILABLE THAT MAYBE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT REALLY UNDER OUR PURVIEW, ARE NOT BEING FULLY UTILIZED, BUT THAT WE SHOULD MAYBE LOOK AT IN REGARDS TO, TO SPACE, THOUGH, I THINK SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE US TO BE VERY INTENTIONAL ABOUT SINCE OUR WE DID HAVE A SUCCESSFUL BOND REFERENDUM, AND IS WHEN WE ARE DESIGNING OUR NEW POLICE HEADQUARTERS AND OUR NEW TRAINING FACILITIES, THAT WE'RE SMART IN CREATING SPACES THAT CAN BE USED BOTH FOR WHAT THE PRIMARY INTENTION IS FOR, FOR TRAINING FACILITIES, BUT ALSO THAT THEY CAN BE OPENED UP TO THE COMMUNITY TO USE.

AND I THINK THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE FUNDING IS ALREADY THERE FOR REHEARSAL SPACE AND, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT IS WE CAN DO ON GREAT LOCATIONS THAT ARE EASY ACCESS TO, TO ALL THE GROUPS.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT STAYS FRONT OF MIND FOR EVERYONE AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH, WITH DESIGNING THOSE NEW FACILITIES. I DID APPRECIATE THE LETTER WE RECEIVED, AND I APOLOGIZE, STEVE, I DON'T THINK YOU MENTIONED IT. SO IF I'M REPEATING YOU, I APOLOGIZE.

BUT WE DID RECEIVE A LETTER FROM FROM OUR CHAIR.

WHO'S IN THE AUDIENCE FROM THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION.

KIND OF PRIORITIZING OR GIVING THEIR LIST OF PRIORITIES.

AND ONE THING THAT REALLY STUCK OUT TO ME IN HERE WAS SAY WE.

ADDITIONALLY, WE WOULD FIND THE PLAN MORE ACTIONABLE IN THE FINAL IF THE FINAL VERSION INCLUDED BEST PRACTICES AND BENCHMARKS FROM OTHER CITIES THAT HAD SUCCESSFULLY LAUNCHED SIMILAR INITIATIVES, ESPECIALLY QUICK WINS WITH THE FIRST YEAR THAT HAD SIGNIFICANT IMPACT IN AREAS SUCH AS MARKETING AND FUNDING.

SO I JUST I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT TO KIND OF KEEP THE MOMENTUM GOING AND GET PEOPLE EXCITED THAT WE DO HAVE SOME BEST PRACTICES AND THINGS THAT WE'RE SHOOTING FOR AND SOME

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SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. AND GLAD TO HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER LAVINE ON BOARD.

I KNOW HE'S VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THE ARTS AND WILL BE A GREAT LIAISON AND ADVOCATE FOR THE ARTS.

AND SO THANK YOU FOR FOR BRINGING UP THESE PRIORITIES.

COUNCIL MEMBER CARE. I JUST WANTED TO VOICE WHERE IT IS THAT I'M AGREEING UPON.

AND I AGREE THAT WE OUGHT TO LOOK AT THE FUNDING.

AND AS LONG AS IT'S A PLANO BASED ORGANIZATION, IF THEY NEED TO GO TO THE EISEMANNN, I'M OPEN TO THAT, AT LEAST FOR THE TIME BEING. I REALLY WANT TO ECHO WHAT WAS SAID EARLIER ABOUT GETTING A QUICK WIN.

LET'S LET'S GET THOSE QUICK WINS AND GET THE COMMUNITY REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT AND SEE SOME REAL MOVEMENT ALONG THERE.

AND I WOULD REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE DONE AND TO SHOW THOSE SUCCESSES, SO WE CAN USE THAT AS A MODEL. AND I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT I ALSO AM IN AGREEMENT THAT WE NEED TO GET CAP IN THE ARTS COMMUNITY INVOLVED WITH THE WITH A CROSS-DEPARTMENTAL IMPLEMENTATION COMMITTEE.

THANKS. THANKS, MARK. SO, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I JUST WANT TO URGE A LITTLE BIT OF CAUTION IN PARTLY BECAUSE YOU KNOW, I THINK WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL RECOGNIZING THE PRECEDENT THAT'S BEING SET WITH HOW WE'RE USING CITY RESOURCES TO ACHIEVE SOME COMMUNITY GOALS, BECAUSE THERE'S MORE THAN JUST THE ARTS COMMUNITY OUT THERE.

THERE'S NONPROFITS, FAITH BASED, OTHER COMMUNITY GROUPS THAT WHEN WE START ALLOCATING OUT STAFF AND LOOKING AT RESOURCES, WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT THE PRECEDENT WE'RE SETTING THAT SAYS WE'RE GOING TO USE STAFF OR RESOURCES IN A SPECIFIC WAY.

SO NOT SAYING THAT WE CAN'T DO A LOT OF THIS, BUT I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS, IS POSSIBLY, MAYBE STEP BACK A LITTLE BIT AND ASK WHAT WE CAN DO TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE WE'RE BOTH BEING RESPONSIVE, BUT ALSO LOOKING AT THIS IN A WAY THAT FROM A PRECEDENT PERSPECTIVE, WE DON'T SET A PRECEDENT THAT'S HARD FOR THE ORGANIZATION TO TO LIVE UP TO.

MOVING FORWARD I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT THAT THE MAYOR AND POSSIBLY THE LEADERSHIP OF DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM AND MAYOR PRO TEM APPOINT A SUBCOMMITTEE OF COUNCIL MEMBERS TO REALLY WORK WITH STAFF ON A COUPLE OF THESE TO GET STARTED WITH.

I UNDERSTAND THE VENUE STUDY AND I THINK THAT THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME CONSUMING, BUT SOME OF THESE OTHER ASPECTS, I THINK WE CAN DIVE OFF INTO THOSE AND BEGIN DOING SOME WORK.

TALKING ABOUT ACROSS DEPARTMENTAL STAFF TEAM HAPPY TO LOOK AT THAT, LOOKING AT WHAT WE CAN DO ON CALENDAR AND COMMUNICATIONS.

BUT SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS, LIKE USING UTILITY BILL INSERTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AGAIN, FROM A PRECEDENT PERSPECTIVE, COUNCIL, YOU NEED TO BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT THE APPROACH TO THOSE, BECAUSE THAT OPENS YOU UP TO OTHER GROUPS MAKING REQUESTS IN A WAY THAT I THINK YOU WOULD NOT WANT LONG TERM.

SO I'M HAPPY TO LOOK AT THE ARTS GRANTS PROGRAM.

WE'RE HAPPY TO GET STARTED ON THIS, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT EASIER IF WE WERE ABLE TO WORK WITH A SMALLER GROUP, MAYBE TO GET STARTED ON THIS AND REPORT BACK TO THE COUNCIL BEFORE ANYTHING IS FINALIZED.

BUT WE COULD GET GOING ON THIS HERE TOWARDS THE END OF THE SUMMER AND ACTUALLY START BRINGING BACK SOME ACTIONABLE ITEMS FOR COUNCIL TO TO CONSIDER THIS FALL, AS WELL AS THE BEST PRACTICES AND TO DO LIST.

DOES EVERYBODY GO OKAY WITH THAT INITIAL PLAN? COUNCILMEMBER DOWNS I'M SORRY. MAYOR. THERE YOU GO.

SO HAVING SERVED FIVE YEARS ON THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION, I DO APPLAUD YOU FOR THIS LETTER AND ALL THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE DONE ON THIS.

THE THE CAP GROUP, THAT'S THE OUTSIDE GROUP. AS I LISTEN TO EVERYONE HERE AT THE DAIS TALK ABOUT THIS PLAN.

I'M GOING TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO CITY MANAGER ISRAELSON FOR PUTTING OUT MY THOUGHTS ON PROCEEDING WITH CAUTION ON THIS.

THIS IS A CRITICAL PART OF A VIBRANT COMMUNITY.

WE KNOW THAT. AND WE KNOW THAT SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE.

BUT WE DO NEED TO TREAD CAREFULLY AND SLOWLY.

THIS IS A STRATEGIC VISION THAT COULD TAKE MULTIPLE YEARS TO COME INTO FRUITION, AND WHY WE DO NEED A QUICK WIN ON SOMETHING LIKE A CALENDAR SYSTEM.

I DO STRONGLY SUPPORT THE NOTION OF A SUBCOMMITTEE HERE ON COUNCIL TO EXPLORE THIS MORE DEEPLY, AND TO COME WITH SOME REALLY TANGIBLE IDEAS THAT DO NOT TAX STAFF, RESOURCES THAT DO NOT SET PRECEDENCE FOR OTHER THINGS WITHIN THE CITY.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. SPEAKING MY THOUGHTS. CITY MANAGER.

MAYOR. YES. MAY I SPEAK WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH YOUR DELIBERATIONS? YOU'RE WELCOME TO SPEAK RIGHT NOW. GREAT. SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY, AS THE LEADER OF THE PLANNING TEAM, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING ME BACK FOR THIS CONVERSATION TONIGHT.

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AND THE AREAS THAT YOU'VE DEFINED AS STARTING POINTS FOR IMPLEMENTATION ALL MAKE GREAT SENSE TO US.

WE WOULD HAVE RECOMMENDED THEM AS STARTING POINTS.

WHAT? THE REASON I WANTED TO JUMP INTO THE DIALOG IS JUST TO, YOU KNOW, I READ THE PLAN AGAIN.

HOW MANY TIMES HAVE I READ IT? BUT I REREAD IT ON THE AIRPLANE AGAIN TODAY, AND THERE WAS A KIND OF A CONTEXTUAL REMARK I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU, AND THAT IS THAT THIS IS THE FIRST CULTURAL ARTS MASTER PLAN THAT THE CITY HAS DONE.

YOU'RE NOT ALONE IN THAT. WE JUST FINISHED A PLAN FOR THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO, WHICH HAS HAD AN ARTS COMMISSION FOR 30 YEARS AND JUST GOT AROUND TO DOING THEIR FIRST CULTURAL ARTS MASTER PLAN THIS PAST YEAR. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE OPPORTUNITIES IN A CULTURAL PLAN IS TO CONSULT WITH THE COMMUNITY. WHAT ARE THE CITIZENS? WHAT ARE THE RESIDENTS OF PLANO? WANT THE CULTURAL LIFE OF THE COMMUNITY TO BECOME? WHERE IS IT FALLING SHORT? WHERE COULD IT BE IMPROVED? AND YOU ASK US TO DO THAT? AND WE HEARD THOSE MESSAGES LOUD AND CLEAR.

THERE REPRESENT WELL REPRESENTED THROUGH MARKETING STUDY, COMMUNITY OPINION, ECONOMIC RESEARCH AND SO FORTH.

SO HERE'S WHAT I WANTED TO EMPHASIZE FOR YOU.

LIKE MANY OTHER PLACES, THE POLITICAL CONVERSATION AROUND THE ARTS HAS BEEN ABOUT THE NEEDS OF THE NONPROFIT ARTS COMMUNITY, AND THAT IS AN ESSENTIAL PART OF THE DIALOG. BUT PART OF WHAT WE LEARNED ABOUT PLANO IS THAT YOU HAVE A $400 MILLION CREATIVE INDUSTRY WITHIN YOUR BORDERS.

YOU HAVE 23,000 FULL TIME JOBS IN THE CREATIVE SECTOR, YOUR CREATIVE COMMUNITY THAT THIS CULTURAL ARTS MASTER PLAN IS ABOUT IS CERTAINLY ABOUT THE NONPROFIT ARTS COMMUNITY THAT RECEIVES GRANTS, USAGE OR FACILITIES.

BUT IT IS ALSO ABOUT A BIG GROUP OF ARTISTS AND MAKERS AND CREATIVES WHO LIVE AND WORK HERE AND WOULD LIKE TO BE BETTER RECOGNIZED AND ENABLED. IT'S ALSO ABOUT THE CREATIVE BUSINESSES IN YOUR COMMUNITY WHO UP TILL NOW REALLY HAVE NOT BEEN A PART, AN EXPLICIT PART OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

SO I WANTED TO JUST REMIND YOU THAT THIS CREATIVE COMMUNITY THE PLAN IS ABOUT IS IS BIGGER THAN WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS EVENING.

THAT SAID, I STILL STAND BEHIND OUR OPINION THAT THE STARTING POINTS THAT MR. LAVINE OUTLINED AND YOU'VE BEEN DISCUSSING MAKE GREAT SENSE.

BUT I URGE YOU TO CONTINUE TO OPEN OUT YOUR POINT OF VIEW AS YOU CONSIDER WHAT ACTIONS THE CITY CAN TAKE.

AND MANY OF THEM ARE NO COST ITEMS. SO THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU ABOUT THIS TONIGHT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? WELL GO AHEAD.

YOU REMINDED ME, DAVID, OF BRINGING UP JUST GETTING THE INVOLVEMENT OF OTHER PEOPLE.

THAT'S ONE THING THAT I DON'T THINK WE REALLY BROUGHT. IT WAS WITHIN EACH DEPARTMENT IN THE CITY KIND OF THAT GIVING THEM THE DIRECTION TO COME UP WITH SOME CREATIVE.

I MEAN, I KNOW MICHELLE IN DOWNTOWN HAD AN ARTS CONTEST RECENTLY AND THEN I KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY DID IT THIS YEAR, LAST YEAR PARKS AND REC HAD A CONTEST AROUND THE, THE FACILITIES AND SO, SO WITHIN EACH DEPARTMENT LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO KIND OF CHALLENGE EACH DEPARTMENT, MAYBE TO DO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT INNOVATIVE THAT THAT HIGHLIGHTS THE ARTS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY BROUGHT UP, BUT I SAW THAT IT WAS MINNESOTA OR SOMEWHERE ELSE WAS DOING THAT.

SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING UP. JUST MAKING SURE WE'RE INCLUDING ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE.

SO I WILL GET WITH THE MAYOR PRO TEM AND THE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM.

WE'LL PUT A SUBCOMMITTEE TOGETHER AND WE WILL MAKE SURE WE INCLUDE ALL THE RESPONSE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE HAVE RIGHT HERE IN PLANO. NOT NOT JUST WITHIN THE CITY, BUT ALL OF OUR ARTISTS AND AND CREATIVE PARTNERS THAT MAY NOT HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONNECT WITH US IN A WAY THAT WOULD REALLY BENEFIT NOT ONLY THE ARTS GROUPS, BUT BUT ALL OF PLANO'S. SO WE WILL WE WILL PUT THAT TOGETHER AND SEE IF WE CAN ESPECIALLY WORK ON THE CROSS-DEPARTMENTAL IMPLEMENTATION. GREAT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. OH. COULD YOU. YOU WERE SO READY.

WOW. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET TO MY PAPER. OKAY.

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