Jun 09, 2025 City Council

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I NOW DECLARE THAT THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL IS RECONVENED INTO OPEN SESSION, THAT ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.

WE'LL BEGIN TONIGHT'S REGULAR MEETING WITH THE INVOCATION LED BY PASTOR TERRY BOLDS WITH THE NORTHWEST BIBLE CHURCH AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND TEXAS PLEDGE, LED BY TROOP 3000 CHARTER ORGANIZATION, RESURRECTION LUTHERAN CHURCH.

WOULD YOU ALL PLEASE STAND? MR. MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PRAY ON BEHALF OF THIS MEETING.

AND NOW, FATHER, I'VE BEEN INVITED TO INVOKE YOUR BLESSINGS UPON THIS MEETING.

IN ORDER FOR YOUR BLESSING, I BELIEVE WE HAVE TO BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE DIRECTION OF YOUR SON WHO TOLD US TO PRAY.

YOUR KINGDOM COME, YOUR WILL BE DONE. AND SO WE ASK YOUR GUIDANCE TODAY FOR EVERY DECISION THAT MUST BE MADE.

YOU SAID IN YOUR WORD THAT IF WE ASK IF WE ARE LACKING IN WISDOM, WE SHOULD ASK.

YOU ONLY ASK IN FAITH AND YOU'LL GIVE IT IN GREAT ABUNDANCE.

AND SO, I PRAY THAT THERE WOULD BE AN ABUNDANCE OF WISDOM FROM ON HIGH FOR THE DECISIONS THAT WILL BE MADE IN THE MEETING BUSINESS MEETINGS THAT HAS TO BE CONDUCTED THAT COULD IMPACT HUNDREDS TO THOUSANDS.

WE NEED YOUR DIRECTION. AND SO I PRAY THAT YOUR BLESSING UPON THE MAYOR, ALL THE COUNCIL, ALL THOSE PARTICIPANTS IN THE CITY OF THIS GREAT CITY OF PLANO.

LET YOUR NAME BE GLORIFIED, THAT YOUR PEOPLE BE BENEFITED.

WE TRUST YOU FOR THESE THINGS IN YOUR SON'S HOLY NAME.

AMEN.

THANK YOU. WILL YOU PLEASE JOIN ME IN SAYING THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND FOLLOWED AFTER THE PLEDGE? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE.

TEXAS. ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.

THANK YOU. BE SEATED. PLEASE.

OKAY. DID YOU GUYS. YOU WANT TO JUST TAKE THE PICTURE NOW? LET'S DO IT.

HEY, GUYS. COME HERE. THANK YOU, GUYS FOR DOING THIS. WHATEVER YOU WANT. WHICHEVER ONE YOU WANT.

THANK YOU. WOW. YES. THANK YOU. OKAY.

. OKAY. THANK YOU. CAN YOU READ IT? SURE. OKAY.

HELLO. COUNCIL AND MR. MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR HAVING THIS HAPPY BIRTHDAY PARTY TONIGHT.

AND, CONGRESSMAN SELF, I'M SUSAN FROM CONGRESSMAN KEITH SELF'S OFFICE, AND HE'S NOT ABLE TO BE HERE TONIGHT, BUT HE SENT HIS GREETINGS AND WARM WISHES FOR A CONGRATULATIONS.

AND THE LETTER READS CONGRATULATIONS, MAYOR MUNS, CONGRATULATIONS TO THE RESIDENTS, LEADERS AND BUSINESS BUSINESSES OF THE

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I'M HAVING A HARD TIME SEEING THAT IT IS SMALL.

WELL, IT'S SMALL. I'M IMPRESSED. IT'S SMALL FROM IN THE SHADOW HOME TO MAJOR CORPORATIONS SUCH AS TOYOTA, TOYOTA OF NORTH AMERICA AND FRITO-LAY. PLANO IS A KEY ECONOMIC ENGINE FOR OUR REGION.

THE CITY ALSO HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED AS ITS EXCEPTIONAL PARK SYSTEM, AWARD WINNING DIGITAL SERVICES AND LEADERSHIP IN WATER CONSERVATION. ITS DESIGNATION AS A TOURISM FRIENDLY.

TEXAS CERTIFIED COMMUNITY IS A TESTAMENT TO THE CONTINUED GROWTH AND HOSPITALITY.

AS PLANO CELEBRATES THE SIGNIFICANT ANNIVERSARY, IT STANDS AS A MODEL OF PROGRESS, RESILIENCE AND COMMUNITY SPIRIT.

THE ACHIEVEMENT OF THE LAST 152 YEARS. LAY A STRONG FOUNDATION FOR CONTINUED SUCCESS AND INNOVATION IN THE YEARS TO COME.

ONCE AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS TO THE CITY OF PLANO ON THE REMARKABLE MILESTONE.

IT IS AN HONOR TO REPRESENT SUCH A DYNAMIC AND FORWARD THINKING COMMUNITY.

SINCERELY, KEITH. SELF. MEMBER OF CONGRESS, TEXAS CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT THREE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU'RE VERY WELCOME. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WELL THANK YOU. WE DO HAVE ONE

[Proclamation: June 19 is Juneteenth Day in Plano commemorating the end of slavery in the United States. Presented
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WHEREAS ON JANUARY 1ST, 1863, PRESIDENT ABRAHAM LINCOLN ISSUED THE EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION, WHICH DECLARED, AMONG OTHER THINGS, THAT ALL PERSONS HELD AS SLAVES WITHIN THE REBEL STATES ARE AND HENCEFORWARD SHALL BE FREE.

JUNETEENTH, ALSO KNOWN AS FREEDOM DAY, JUBILEE DAY , LIBERATION DAY, EMANCIPATION DAY IS A HOLIDAY THAT CELEBRATES THE EMANCIPATION OF THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN ENSLAVED IN OUR NATION. AND WHEREAS IN 1860, SHORTLY AFTER RECEIVING HIS FREEDOM, ANDY DRAKE BECAME THE FIRST BLACK MAN TO SETTLE IN PLANO, AND SOON THEREAFTER DRAKE WAS JOINED BY HIS FELLOW FARMER AND FRIEND MOSE STIMPSON IN FOUNDING THE DOUGLASS COMMUNITY, ONE OF THE OLDEST NEIGHBORHOODS IN PLANO.

FOR MANY YEARS, THE DOUGLASS COMMUNITY OPERATED ITS OWN SELF-SUSTAINING COMMUNITY, WITH RETAIL STORES, FUNERAL HOME, A HOTEL. DUE TO ONGOING SEGREGATION, DRAKE AND STIMPSON ARE HONORED AS THE PATRIARCHS OF THE COMMUNITY, WITH THE STIMPSON DRAKE PARK NAMED AFTER THEM.

WHEREAS DIRECT DESCENDANTS OF ANDY DRAKE AND MOSE STIMPSON CONTINUE TO EMBRACE THEIR HERITAGE BY MEMORIALIZING PAST ACHIEVEMENTS AND BY THE RESOLVE TO INSPIRE OTHERS IN THEIR MISSION TO EDUCATE ALL OF PLANO, COLLIN COUNTY AND THE ENTIRE DFW METROPLEX IN KNOWING JUNETEENTH IS A CELEBRATION OF FREEDOM. NOW, THEREFORE, I, JOHN MUNS, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PLANO, TEXAS, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM.

MONDAY, JUNE 19TH, 2025, AS JUNETEENTH DAY IN PLANO AND THE STATE OF TEXAS.

AND I DO THEREBY ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO JOIN ME IN THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL IN HONORING THE MANY CONTRIBUTIONS OF THE DOUGLAS COMMUNITY AND THE CITY OF EXCELLENCE AS WE LOOK TO CELEBRATE THE BLESSING OF FREEDOM THIS DAY AND EVERY DAY.

CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU.

PRELIMINARY. WE'LL GO BACK TO THE PRELIMINARY OPEN MEETING, AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE SOME SPEAKERS.

[COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST]

THE FIRST ONE IS BRANT EHMKE. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING.

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HOA OF 122 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN WEST PLANO.

I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WHERE 20 HOMES BACK UP TO A NATURAL CREEK OVER 40 YEARS AGO, WHEN OUR SUBDIVISION WAS DEVELOPED. THE CITY AND DEVELOPER ASSIGNED LONG TERM EROSION RESPONSIBILITY TO AN HOA THAT WASN'T EVEN YET FORMED. SINCE THEN, THE AREA AROUND US HAS GROWN MASSIVE DEVELOPMENT, INCREASING PLANO'S TAX BASE AND SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASING STORMWATER RUNOFF. RUNOFF FROM THE STREETS, ALLEYS, PARKING LOTS, AND EVEN PARTS OF WILLOW BEND MALL IS CHANNELED INTO OUR CREEK. FAR BEYOND WHAT IT WAS EVER INTENDED TO HANDLE, THIS INCREASED FLOW HAS LED TO SERIOUS EROSION DIRECTLY TIED TO CITY INFRASTRUCTURE AND GROWTH. YET THE FINANCIAL AND MAINTENANCE BURDEN FOR STABILIZING THESE STREAM BANKS IS FALLING ON OUR HOA. THAT'S A STRUCTURAL FLAW, NOT SIMPLY A MAINTENANCE ISSUE.

AND IT'S FUNDAMENTALLY UNFAIR. WE ALREADY PAY MONTHLY DRAINAGE FEES TO THE CITY TO MAINTAIN THE STORMWATER SYSTEM.

THAT SYSTEM INCLUDES STORM DRAINS, CULVERTS, AND CREEKS.

THESE CREEKS AREN'T JUST NATURAL FEATURES, THEY'RE AN ESSENTIAL PART OF PLANO'S STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE STRUCTURE DESIGNED TO SAFELY CARRY RUNOFF OUT OF NEIGHBORHOODS AND OUT OF THE CITY.

THE CITY'S WEBSITE RIGHTLY STATES THAT QUOTE, EVERY PROPERTY IN PLANO CONTRIBUTES TO STORMWATER RUNOFF.

THEREFORE, EACH PROPERTY OWNER SHOULD PARTICIPATE IN THE COST OF OPERATIONS AND MANAGEMENT OF THE CITY'S DRAINAGE SYSTEM, UNQUOTE. THAT'S A SOUND PRINCIPLE, BUT NOT BEING APPLIED FAIRLY.

A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE OURS ARE BEING ASKED TO CARRY FAR MORE SHARE OF THIS COST.

STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SHOULD TREAT ALL COMPONENTS OF THE SYSTEM, INCLUDING CREEKS, AS CORE CITY INFRASTRUCTURE, AND IT SHOULD BE FUNDED EQUITABLY. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING CONSISTENCY AND FAIRNESS TO A VITAL PART OF PLANO'S INFRASTRUCTURE. WE RESPECTFULLY ASK THE COUNCIL TO ADOPT A POLICY MAKING THE CITY RESPONSIBLE FOR RESIDENTIAL STREAM, BANK MAINTENANCE AND EROSION CONTROL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU. THE NEXT SPEAKER IS JOHN ZIRIN.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS JOHN ZIRIN.

I SERVE AS THE TREASURER OF THE HILLS OF INDIAN CREEK HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.

OUR HOA CONSISTS OF 122 HOMES AND OPERATES ON A MODEST ANNUAL BUDGET OF $16,750.

UNDER OUR GOVERNING COVENANTS, ANY EXPENSE BEYOND OUR ANNUAL BUDGET MUST BE APPROVED THROUGH A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT REQUIRING TWO THIRDS MAJORITY VOTE.

HERE'S THE CHALLENGE. ONLY 20 OF OUR 122 HOMES HAVE FRONTAGE ALONGSIDE THE CREEK.

THIS MAKES IT VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO SECURE ENOUGH VOTES TO FUND EROSION REMEDIATION WITHIN THE CREEK EASEMENT.

IN PAST COUNCIL MEETINGS, THERE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSIONS ABOUT COST SHARING BETWEEN THE CITY AND HOMEOWNERS.

WHILE WELL INTENTIONED, THIS PROCESS WON'T WORK IN OUR COMMUNITY DUE TO THE STRUCTURE OF OUR HOA AND THE LIMITED NUMBER OF DIRECTLY AFFECTED PROPERTIES.

MEANWHILE, EVERY ONE OF OUR HOMEOWNERS PAY THE CITY OF PLANO'S MONTHLY DRAINAGE FEE DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY TO SUPPORT CITY WIDE STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE, INCLUDING CREEKS. YET, DESPITE PAYING INTO THIS SYSTEM, WE ARE ALSO BEING EXPECTED TO PRIVATELY MAINTAIN AND FUND REPAIRS TO THE CREEK THAT RUNS THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS IS UNFAIR AND UNSUSTAINABLE.

THE CITY OF PLANO'S OWN WEBSITE ADDRESSES THIS ISSUE DIRECTLY.

IN ITS FAQ SECTION, IT ASKS WHY AM I BEING CHARGED A DRAINAGE FEE? THE ANSWER EVERY PROPERTY WITHIN THE CITY OF PLANO CONTRIBUTES TO STORMWATER RUNOFF.

THEREFORE, EACH PROPERTY OWNER SHOULD PARTICIPATE IN THE COST OF OPERATIONS AND MANAGEMENT OF THE CITY'S DRAINAGE SYSTEM.

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STREAM BREAKS STREAM BANKS ACROSS ALL RESIDENTIAL AREAS, NOT JUST PUSH IT ONTO SMALL HOMEOWNER GROUPS BASED ON THE PROXIMITY ALONE.

WE RESPECTFULLY ASK THE COUNCIL TO DEVELOP A CITYWIDE POLICY WHERE THE CITY TAKES RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE PREVENTIONS AND REMEDIATION OF RESIDENTIAL STREAM BANK EROSION. THIS APPROACH IS EQUITABLE, CONSISTENT WITH THE INTENT OF THE DRAINAGE FEE, AND CRUCIAL FOR PROTECTING NEIGHBORHOOD INFRASTRUCTURE ACROSS PLANO.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.

THE NEXT SPEAKER IS NANCY MARKHAM. HI.

NICE TO SEE MANY OF YOU AGAIN. I WAS HERE LAST TIME.

MY NAME IS NANCY MARKHAM, AND I'M A 23 YEAR RESIDENT OF THE HILLS AT INDIAN CREEK.

I'M A CREEK LOT OWNER AND A LOCAL REALTOR. AND OVER THOSE 23 YEARS, I'VE WATCHED THE CREEK BEHIND MY HOME CHANGE WITH MAJOR STORMS. THE WATER LEVEL RISES HIGHER THAN EVER BEFORE.

THIS ISN'T JUST A NATURAL FLUCTUATION. IT'S THE DIRECT INSULT, A DIRECT RESULT OF CONTINUED DEVELOPMENT UPSTREAM AND BEYOND OUR BOUNDARIES. AS MORE STORMWATER FUNNELS INTO THIS CREEK, IT ACCELERATES EROSION.

THE EROSION IS NO LONGER OCCASIONAL. IT'S ONGOING AND INCREASINGLY DESTRUCTIVE.

WHILE THE CITY HAS ASSIGNED OWNERSHIP OF THIS CREEK TO OUR HOA, IT'S CLEAR THE EROSION WE'RE SEEING IS NOT OUR DOING AND WE DON'T HAVE THE FINANCIAL MEANS TO FIX IT. AT SOME POINT, REMEDIATION WILL BE REQUIRED, AND WHEN THAT TIME COMES, THERE WILL BE NO REALISTIC WAY FOR HOA TO COVER THE COSTS.

THAT IS WHY WE ARE ASKING THE CITY TO ADOPT A FORWARD THINKING POLICY.

TREAT ALL STREAM BANKS AS CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE JUST AS ROADS, SEWERS, PUBLIC UTILITIES AND COMMIT TO MAINTAINING THEM.

WHY NOT WAIT? BECAUSE THIS UNCERTAINTY AFFECTS PROPERTY VALUES.

AS A REALTOR, I CAN TELL YOU WHEN A CREEK LOT COMES ON THE MARKET AND BUYERS LEARN THAT EROSION IS THE HOA'S RESPONSIBILITY.

WITH NO CITY SUPPORT, THEY OFTEN WALK AWAY AND THAT HESITATION DOES NOT STOP AT CREEK LOTS.

BUYERS OF NON CREEK HOMES IN OUR HOA WORRY, TOO, BECAUSE THEY ARE EXPECTED TO FOOT PART OF THE BILL FOR THE EROSION THEY DIDN'T CAUSE.

THE LONGER THIS POLICY GAP EXISTS, THE MORE PROPERTY VALUES AND HOMEOWNER CONFIDENCE WILL BE AT RISK FOR THE SAKE OF REAL ESTATE VALUES, HOMEOWNER PEACE OF MIND, AND LONG TERM CITY PLANNING.

PLEASE TAKE STEPS NOW TO CHANGE THE CURRENT POLICY BEFORE MORE STREAM BANKS BECOME CRITICAL AND MORE DAMAGE IS DONE.

I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THE NEXT SPEAKER IS JOEY SEVERN. SORRY.

GOOD EVENING. NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS, WELCOME TO CITY COUNCIL.

AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE AND HELP HANDLE DECISIONS LIKE STREAM BANK STABILIZATION FUNDING.

ALWAYS START OFF PRESENTATION WITH THE BOTTOM LINE. BOTTOM LINE UP FRONT IS STABILIZATION OF STREAM BANKS.

AND PLANO SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE CITY OF PLANO INFRASTRUCTURE MAINTENANCE BUDGET.

MY NAME IS JOEY SEVERN. I LIVE IN PLANO. I'M HERE TONIGHT REPRESENTING THE STATES OF WOODED COVE, WI, WHICH COMPRISES OF 158 HOMES BETWEEN CUSTER AND INDEPENDENCE, MCDERMOTT AND HEDGCOXE.

OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS A DRAINAGE WATERWAY OF ABOUT 2000FT, WHICH PASSES THROUGH AND FLOWS INTO RUSSELL CREEK.

AT THE NORTHERN END OF THE WATERWAY, THERE'S TWO SEVEN FOOT, TWO SEVEN FOOTERS, SEVEN FOOT SQUARE CONDUITS DRAINING WATER INTO THAT LITTLE WATERWAY FROM 240 ACRES NORTH OF AND OUTSIDE OUR SUBDIVISION. AND THIS IS ALL RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE LEARNED WAS ON OUR RESEARCH IS THAT 90% OF THE WATER FROM RESIDENTIAL HOMES WHERE THERE'S DRIVEWAYS AND HOMES. ET CETERA, ET CETERA. 90% OF THE WATER IS RUNOFF, 90%.

SO WHEN IT RAINS TWO INCHES IN PLANO LIKE IT DID A COUPLE DAYS AGO, THAT'S A LOT OF WATER.

WE HAVE TWO SITES WHERE EROSION IS A REAL PROBLEM.

THERE'S ONE MORE SERIOUS THAN THE OTHER. I THINK IT WAS ACTUALLY ILLUSTRATED ON THE PICTURE.

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OKAY. IT LOOKED JUST LIKE IT. SO ANYHOW, IT'S MORE DIFFICULT.

I MEAN, IT'S MORE COMPLICATED, MORE CRITICAL THAN THE OTHER SITE.

IT'S ABOUT FOUR FEET FROM THE HOMEOWNER'S FENCE AND ABOUT 50.

IT'S ABOUT 15FT FROM HIS SWIMMING POOL, AND IT'S ABOUT A 12 TO 15 FOOT HIGH WALL.

AND BUT THERE'S THREE POINTS ABOUT THIS SITE THAT I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT.

ONE OF THEM IS THAT OUR SUBDIVISION PLAT STATES THAT THE HOA IS IN CHARGE OF MAINTAINING ONE SIDE OF THE WATERWAY.

I MEAN, IT GETS A LITTLE COMPLICATED WHEN YOU START SLICING AND DICING THIS, BUT WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR ONE SIDE OF THE WATERWAY, WHEREAS THE CITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE OTHER SIDE.

AND THE SIDE WHERE THE WATER IS MAINTAINED BY THE WATERWAY IS MAINTAINED BY THE CITY.

IT HAS A 24 INCH DRAIN THAT COMES FROM A PARKING LOT FROM THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

AND WE BELIEVE THAT THAT IS CONTRIBUTING TO THE PROBLEM WHERE IT'S MAKING A TURN ON THE CREEK AND IT'S INCREASING THE VELOCITY, LIKE CALEB SAID, THAT YOU HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE VELOCITY OF THE WATER GOING AROUND, AND THAT'S WHAT'S CONTRIBUTING TO THE TO THE PROBLEM.

THE OTHER PROBLEM IS THE DEFINITION OF MAINTENANCE.

IT'S LACKING. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT MEANS, BUT WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION IS RESPONSIBLE FOR REPAIRING STREAM BANK EROSION RESULTING FROM DISCHARGE OF HEAVY WATER FLOW ORIGINATING OUTSIDE OUR SUBDIVISION.

SO STREAM BANKS STABILIZATION SHOULD BE IN THE BUDGET FOR MAINTENANCE.

SOME OF MY FELLOW PLANO RESIDENTS MIGHT WONDER WHY SHOULD THEY PAY FOR STREAMBANK EROSION PROBLEM IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD? YOUR TIME IS UP, BUT GO AHEAD AND GO AHEAD AND WRAP IT UP.

OKAY. WELL, IT'S THE SAME REASON WHY WE PAY FOR STREET REPAIRS THAT ARE NOT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

BUT LET ME LET ME GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THE CITY ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.

RUSSELL AND ALLISON, THANK YOU FOR THEIR HELP.

THANK RICK HORNE FOR COMING OUT AND VISITING TWO WEEKS AGO.

I APPRECIATE THAT. AND SMU GRADUATE STUDENTS AND PROFESSORS FROM HELPING US OUT A YEAR AGO.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION AND I'LL SEND YOU MY INFORMATION.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D INVITE YOU TO COME OUT TO OUR SITE AND ACTUALLY SEE IT PERSONALLY.

SO THANK YOU. THE LAST SPEAKER IS MARY AGNES CLARK.

TO TALK FASTER THAN I USUALLY DO. I'VE ALREADY TALKING.

CAN YOU TELL? CONGRATULATIONS. THE HONORABLE MAYOR MUNS FOR YOUR NEW TERM.

AND THE FOUR NEW MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL. I'M MARY AGNES CLARK.

I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF PLANO FOR 26 YEARS.

MY BACKGROUND IS SALES, MARKETING, MANAGEMENT, AND LEADERSHIP FOR SOUTHWESTERN BELL TELEPHONE, AT&T, EDS, AND ERNST AND YOUNG. SO I COME WITH A BUSINESS BACKGROUND LOOKING AT THIS.

I SERVED AS OUR HOA PRESIDENT, INVOLVED WITH THE HOA FROM 2001 TO 2008.

AND THEN I WAS ALSO INVOLVED IN THE PLANO HOMEOWNERS COUNCIL, WHICH YOU WOULD HAVE KNOWN JIM WILKES.

AND HE HELPED TEACH ME A LOT OF THINGS THAT I LEARNED.

CITY OF PLANO HAS ALWAYS STEPPED FORWARD AND HELPED.

THERE ARE QUITE A FEW PROJECTS THAT I'M VERY AWARE OF BECAUSE I WAS INVOLVED IN THEM.

ONE OF THE ONES WOULD BE FLOODING OF HOMES. THERE WAS A WATER FEATURE ON THE GOLF COURSE THAT FLOODED HOMES.

CITY OF PLANO STEPPED IN AND THEY EXPANDED THE SEWAGE.

THE SEWER DEPARTMENT, SEWER DEPARTMENT, I WISH IT WERE THAT.

AND THEN THERE WAS ALSO DRAINAGE FROM THE GOLF COURSE DRAINING THROUGH HOMES ON LOTS IN CERTAIN HUNDRED BLOCK IN ON PELICAN BAY.

ANOTHER POWER SURGE. THEY DIDN'T GET INVOLVED WITH THAT CRIME IN THE HOMES.

WE HAD PIT BULL DOGS AND DRUG SALES. IT'S NOT A LONG WHILE AGO.

MUIRFIELD CIRCLE FENCE. AND THAT'S WHEN I REALLY GOT TO KNOW PAIGE MIMS. BECAUSE SHE WAS INVOLVED WITH THAT 55, 55 FOOT STEEL, STRUCTURALLY ENGINEERED FENCE THAT GOT REMOVED THANKS TO THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT. QUITE FRANKLY I GOT INVOLVED WITH MODO MESH.

WHEN YOU ALL NEEDED SOME HELP. I STEPPED OUT AND I CALLED THE CHAIRMAN OF ENCORE.

AND IN ONE CONVERSATION AND ONE CONVERSATION, HE AGREED.

HE SAID, IT'S DONE. I'LL DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO.

WE DON'T NEED TO DO THE ARRANGEMENT WITH THE MODEM MESH DEVICES ON ALL OF THE LIGHT POLES WILL JUST DO THE ATTACHMENTS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY. SO THAT GOT DONE. AND THEN ELECTRIC ISSUES, YOU DIDN'T REALLY HAVE TO GET INVOLVED WITH THAT.

WE WERE HAVING TOO MANY POWER OUTAGES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD DUE TO A POWER SURGE.

AND AGAIN, ENCORE STEPPED FORWARD AND THEY HAD EXPANDED HOURS.

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I HAVE A SITUATION SOMEONE WAS ASKING ABOUT THE LONGEVITY OF A GABION WALL.

THE GABION WALL BEHIND MY HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 40 YEARS AGO, 40 YEARS, AND NOW BACK THEN THEY HAD CHICKEN WIRE AND THAT THAT WIRE IN THE WATER RUSTS AND THE ROCKS START TO FALL OUT. THEY NOW USE PVC COATED CHICKEN WIRE SO THAT YOU KNOW IT DOESN'T RUST.

IT'LL LAST UNTIL THE DINOSAURS COME HOME. SO MAYOR MUNS GOT INVOLVED AND MET WITH BRANT LEMKE AND ME IN DECEMBER 6TH OF 2021.

WE APPRECIATE THAT. WE'VE TALKED WITH JACK CARR, WE'VE TALKED WITH PAIGE MIMS AND MANY OTHERS.

SO THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR FEEDBACK.

WE'LL CONTINUE TO RECEIVE THAT FEEDBACK FROM OTHER PARTS OF FOLKS THAT ARE ALSO HAVING THESE ISSUES AND COME UP WITH SOME SOLUTIONS DURING THE SUMMER TO PRESENT TO OUR COMMUNITY IN SEPTEMBER.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. OUR NEXT ITEM IS CONSENT AND REGULAR AGENDAS.

IS THERE AN ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT COUNCIL MEMBER WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE? OKAY. OKAY. NEXT ITEM IS ANY ITEMS FOR FUTURE AGENDAS OR DISCUSSION.

ALL RIGHT. LET'S MOVE BACK TO THE REGULAR MEETING AND GO TO CONSENT AGENDA.

SORRY.

OKAY. WE DID NOT HAVE ANYONE FOR COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST THIS EVENING.

SO CONSENT AGENDA. THE CONSENT AGENDA WILL BE ACTED UPON IN ONE MOTION AND CONTAINS ITEMS WHICH ARE ROUTINE AND TYPICALLY NONCONTROVERSIAL.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. SECOND.

THANK YOU. I HAVE A MOTION, A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

PLEASE VOTE. MOTION PASSES 8 TO 0.

THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM. ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.

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Public Hearing and consideration of an Ordinance to repeal in its entirety City of Plano Ordinance No. 2022-1-10, codified as Article II, Building Code, of Chapter 6 of the Code of Ordinances; adopting the 2024 Edition of the International Building Code, with certain additions, deletions, and amendments, as the Building Code of the City of Plano; and providing a repealer clause, a severability clause, a savings clause, a penalty clause, a publication clause, and an effective date. Conducted and adopted Ordinance No. 2025-6-14

REMAINING SPEAKERS ARE LIMITED TO 30 TOTAL MINUTES OF TESTIMONY TIME, WITH THREE MINUTES ASSIGNED PER SPEAKER.

THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY AMEND THESE TIMES AS DEEMED NECESSARY.

NONPUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. PRESIDING OFFICER WILL PERMIT PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA NOT POSTED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.

THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL ESTABLISH TIME LIMITS BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKER REQUESTS, LENGTH OF THE AGENDA AND TO INSURE MEETING EFFICIENCY, AND MAY INCLUDE A CUMULATIVE TIME LIMIT.

SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER THE REQUESTS ARE RECEIVED UNTIL THE CUMULATIVE TIME IS EXHAUSTED.

ITEM NUMBER ONE PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE TO REPEAL IN ITS ENTIRETY.

CITY OF PLANO ORDINANCE NUMBER 2022-1-10, CODIFIED AS ARTICLE TWO BUILDING CODE OF CHAPTER SIX OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, ADOPTING THE 2024 EDITION OF THE INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE WITH CERTAIN ADDITIONS, DELETIONS, AND AMENDMENTS AS THE BUILDING CODE OF THE CITY OF PLANO AND PROVIDING A REPEALER CLAUSE, A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, A SAVINGS CLAUSE, A PENALTY CLAUSE, A PUBLICATION CLAUSE, AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. SOSO MATA, BUILDING INSPECTIONS CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL.

I ALSO HAVE GARY MILES, OUR ASSISTANT BUILDING OFFICIAL, HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

AS YOU MAY RECALL IN YOUR MEMO, WE HAVE IN COMPLIANCE WITH OUR HOUSE BILL 738 FROM THE 87TH STATE LEGISLATURE HAVE AN OPEN HEARING FOR THE BUILDING CODE. AND SO YOU ALSO MAY REMEMBER THAT IN YOUR MEMO,

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AND SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS CONCERNING THE BILLING CODE.

HERE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON ITEM ONE.

RICK. YES. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I KNOW THIS IS A COMPLEX.

IT WRAPS UP MANY ORGANIZATIONS. DO YOU RECALL FROM ANY OF YOUR MEETINGS IF THERE WAS ANY PARTICULAR POINT IN THE ORDINANCES? THAT GENERATED SOME CONSTERNATION OR SOME AREAS OF DISAGREEMENT THAT WAS MORE VOCAL THAN OTHERS? DO YOU REMEMBER IF THERE WAS ANYTHING LIKE THAT IN ANY OF THESE? I KNOW THAT WE ALL KUMBAYA IN THESE MEETINGS, PARTICULARLY WITH COG AND ALL THE AREAS THERE, BUT WAS THERE ANY SUCH AREA OF CONSTERNATION? YES, BUT IT IS NOT IN THE BUILDING CODE. BUT IN THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS, WE GO THROUGH ALL THE CODES.

IT WAS IN THE FIRE CODE. AND IT'S AN ISSUE THAT PLANO HAS ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF.

AND IT'S I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANYONE FROM FIRE HERE, BUT IT'S BASICALLY ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF AS WE HAVE TAKEN OUR OWN AMENDMENTS CONCERNING AN APPENDIX L, WHICH IS A REPLENISHING SYSTEM TO HELP FIREFIGHTERS AS THEY GO, DO HAVE TO CARRY A LOT OF GEAR.

THEY HAVE AIR PACKS ON THEIR BACK. AND SO AND I REALLY AM GETTING OUT OF MY LANE HERE.

I WAS MORE OF A LISTENER THAN ANYONE ELSE, BUT BASICALLY, I THINK THEY HAVE A 20 MINUTE AIR SUPPLY.

AND SO, THE CODE ALLOWS INSTALLATION OF A PIPE SYSTEM IN ONLY HIGH RISES IN CERTAIN WAREHOUSES.

AND SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S IN THE CODE NOW.

IT'S A SUBJECT OF A CONTROVERSY, WHETHER YOU NEED IT OR NOT.

PLANO THINKS WE NEED IT TO HELP KEEP OUR FIREFIGHTERS SAFE.

SO THAT WAS THAT WAS THE ITEM. SO WE ADOPTED A MORE STRINGENT CODE.

YES. FOR THE PROTECTION OF FIREFIGHTERS AND THE OCCUPANTS OF WITHIN THE BUILDING.

YES, SIR. GREAT. YES, SIR. WE DID. GREAT NEWS. THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM, THANK YOU.

ALSO, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE FOR BOTH THIS ONE, THIS ITEM AS WELL AS THE NEXT ITEM.

REALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING IS REPEATING WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE.

BUT TO ADOPT WHAT IS THE GENERAL STANDARD FOR THE INTERNATIONAL CODE THAT'S BEEN REVIEWED, EVALUATED BY IS IT ANCHORED IN NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS? YES. BUT SPECIFICALLY, THIS IS FOR THE BUILDING CODE, THE INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE.

THIS ONE, THIS ITEM, THIS THIS AGENDA ITEM IS FOR THE BUILDING CODE.

YES. YES, MA'AM. FOR BOTH. THE NEXT ONE IS RESIDENTIAL, BUT THIS ONE IS THE BUILDING CODE.

YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT.

I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. I THINK WE HAVE A SPEAKER.

I HAVE THAT ON THE NEXT. OH, IS THAT THE SECOND ONE? YEAH. EXCUSE ME. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

CONFINE THE COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL. DEPUTY MAYOR.

MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. THANK YOU. I HAVE A MOTION, A SECOND TO APPROVE.

ITEM NUMBER ONE. PLEASE VOTE. MOTION PASSES 8 TO 0.

ITEM NUMBER TWO. PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE TO REPEAL CITY OF PLANO ORDINANCE NUMBER 2022-1-17,

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Public Hearing and consideration of an Ordinance to repeal City of Plano Ordinance No. 2022-1-17, codified as Article XX, Residential Code, of Chapter 6 of the Code of Ordinances; adopting the 2024 Edition of the International Residential Code, with certain additions, deletions, and amendments, as the Residential Code of the City of Plano; and providing a repealer clause, a severability clause, a savings clause, a penalty clause, a publication clause, and an effective date. ]

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AND HERE TO ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS, ALL OF THE ITEMS AND LETTERS YOU HAD WERE IN THE SAME PACKET.

AND I GUESS I WILL GO AHEAD AND TELL YOU BASED ON THE LAST QUESTION WE HAD, WAS THERE ANY ANYTHING? I WOULDN'T SAY IT'S I WOULDN'T TERM IT AS CONTROVERSIAL IN THE RESIDENTIAL CODE, BUT IT IS ALSO AN APPENDIX THAT WE ARE PROPOSING IN THE PACKET. AN APPENDIX IS CALLED TINY HOUSES.

AND WE ARE PROPOSING TO ADOPT THIS APPENDIX. IT'S ONLY I BELIEVE IT IS ONLY TWO PAGES IN THE CODE, BUT IT DOES PROVIDE SOME HELP FOR ANY CONSTRUCTION HOUSES THAT ARE LESS THAN 400FT².

AND THE REASONING ALSO COMES FROM DISCUSSIONS WITH OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO HELP WITH HOMES THAT ARE LESS THAN 400FT², WHICH MAY BE USEFUL AS POTENTIALLY AS WE COME OUT OF THE LEGISLATIVE SEASON, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT PENDING LEGISLATION WITH ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS MAY COME TO PASS. AND SO, THIS APPENDIX MAY HELP IF IT DOES HAPPEN. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? RICK? YES. THANK YOU. SO, ON ANY OF THESE NEWER YOU KNOW, WE'RE SEEING NEW CONSTRUCTION METHODS ALL THE TIME.

AND THE LATEST ONE WE'RE SEEING, IT SEEMS TO HAVE A LOT OF PROMISE.

WAS THE 3D PRINTED HOME. IS THIS ANY ANYTHING THAT'S BEEN INCORPORATED OR EVEN EVALUATED UNDER THE IBC WITH REGARDS TO RESIDENTIAL STANDARDS HERE? YES. I ACTUALLY THINK THAT THE PRINTING HOMES, 3D PRINTED HOMES IS ACTUALLY AN APPENDIX IN THE CODE.

IT WAS LAST YEAR, I BELIEVE. THEY DON'T ALWAYS RETAIN EACH ONE OF THEM, BUT I THINK WE DO HAVE THAT.

AND IT'S, THERE'S NOT A THERE'S NOT A LOT OF INFORMATION ON IT BECAUSE WE DON'T SEE THAT A LOT.

I THINK I'VE SEEN THAT BUILT IN SOME CITIES TO THE SOUTH, MAYBE AUSTIN, BUT IT'S BASICALLY A LARGE CONCRETE PRINTER. IT'S BIGGER THAN THE HOUSE.

IT GOES AROUND THE EXTERIOR WALLS, REPEATEDLY POURING CONCRETE, AND WHEN IT'S FINISHED, YOU HAVE WALLS ON THE EXTERIOR AND WINDOW SPACES ARE LEFT. AND THEN YOUR TRADITIONALLY FRAME THE HOUSE ON THE INSIDE WITH THE ROOF, JUST LIKE YOU DO WITH STICK BUILDING. BUT YOU USE THE EXTERIOR AND IT'S CONCRETE, BUT IT'S NEW.

WOULD THERE BE ANY ORDINANCE PROHIBITING THE CONSTRUCTION OF SAID HOME IN THE CITY OF PLANO? I DON'T THINK THERE WOULD BE BECAUSE OF HOUSE BILL 2439.

I BELIEVE IT IS, WHICH WAS A COUPLE OF LEGISLATIVE YEARS AGO, WHERE IT WAS A MATERIALS BILL.

BASICALLY, WE CALL IT, WHICH BASICALLY STATED THAT ANYTHING IN THE BUILDING CODES OR RESIDENTIAL CODES WOULD BE ALLOWED, AND THAT WAS MORE ON FINISHES. BUT CONCRETE'S A FINISH.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER, COREY REININGER.

GOOD EVENING. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, COREY REINECKER.

ON THE OCCASION OF IT BEING A PUBLIC HEARING, I THOUGHT I'D TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME DOWN HERE AND COMMEND CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL MATA, HIS STAFF, THE BUILDING STANDARDS COMMISSION, FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THEY PUT INTO GETTING ALL OF THESE BUILDING CODES BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING. IN MY LINE OF WORK, I'M AN ARCHITECT, AND I DEAL WITH BUILDING CODES ALMOST EVERY SINGLE DAY.

AND WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, TO ME, IN MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION, LOOKS LIKE A VERY GOOD SET OF CODES.

A LOT OF OTHER CITIES IN OUR REGION DON'T UPDATE THEIR CODES ONCE A DECADE, SOMETIMES EVEN LONGER.

SOME OF THEM AMEND THE CODES TO SUCH AN EXTENT THAT YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THE ORIGINAL BUILDING CODE IS THERE UNDERNEATH IT ALL.

SO WHAT? SO WHAT I THINK THEY'VE DONE IS, IS REALLY GOOD.

AND I JUST, I THINK THAT YOU ALL SHOULD PASS THIS.

SO. AND THE TINY HOMES I THINK IS A NICE ADDITION THAT GIVES US SOME FLEXIBILITY, SOME REGULATORY DIRECTION.

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SO MAKES US PREPARED FORWARD THINKING. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. CONFINE THE COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL.

RECORD. MAKE A MOTION. WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO.

SECOND. THANK YOU. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE.

ITEM NUMBER TWO. PLEASE VOTE. MOTION PASSES 8 TO 0.

THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS MEETINGS. ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.