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I STILL LEARNING.WELCOME TO THE DECEMBER 16TH PLANO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING.
A MEETING TO ORDER AT 6:00 PM UH, IF EVERYONE PLEASE RISE AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, I PLEDGE ALL ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
CONSENT AGENDA.CONSENT AGENDA WILL BE ACTED UPON IN ONE MOTION AND CONTAINS ITEMS THAT ARE ROUTINE AND TYPICALLY NON-CONTROVERSIAL.
ITEMS MAY BE REMOVED FROM THIS AGENDA FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION BY COMMISSIONERS OR STAFF COMMISSIONERS.
ANYBODY WANNA PULL AN ITEM FOR THE, FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR SEPARATE CONSIDERATION? NOBODY.
I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS SUBMITTED.
WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS SUBMITTED.
UM, ANY COMMENTS ON THE MOTION? SEEING NONE, EVERYBODY PLEASE VOTE.
MOTION PASSES EIGHT TO ZERO ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.
ITEM NUMBER ONE, ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS, UNLESS INSTRUCTED OTHERWISE BY THE CHAIR, SPEAKERS, WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER.
APPLICANTS ARE LIVING LIMITED TO A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES OF PRESENTATION TIME WITH A FIVE MINUTE REBUTTAL IF NEEDED.
REMAINING SPEAKERS ARE LIMITED TO 30 TOTAL MINUTES OF TESTIMONY TIME WITH THREE MINUTES ASSIGNED PER SPEAKER.
THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY MODIFY A MODIFY THESE TIMES AS DEEMED NECESSARY.
ADMINISTRATIVE CONSIDERATION ITEMS MUST BE APPROVED IF THEY MEET CITY DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
LEGISLATIVE CONSIDER CONSIDERATION ITEMS ARE MORE DISCRETIONARY EXCEPT AS CONSTRAINED BY LEGAL CONSIDERATIONS.
[1. (JK) Public Hearing – Replat & Preliminary Site Plan: Park Blvd. Estates West School Site No. 2, Block A, Lots 1R-4 – Public schools and community center on four lots on 89.4 acres located at the northeast corner of Independence Parkway and Park Boulevard. Zoned Single-Family Residence-9. Projects #R2024-044 & #PSP2024-040. Applicant: Plano Independent School District. (Legislative consideration of parking reduction and pending Board of Adjustment approval of a zoning ordinance variance)]
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE, PUBLIC HEARING REPL AND PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN.PARK BOULEVARD ESTATES WEST SCHOOL.
SITE NUMBER TWO, BLOCK A LOTS ONE R THROUGH FOUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND COMMUNITY CENTER ON FOUR LOTS ON 89.4 ACRES.
LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF INDEPENDENCE PARKWAY AND PARK BOULEVARD ZONE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE NINE.
APPLICANT IS PLANO INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT.
THIS ITEM IS FOR A LEGISLATIVE CONSIDERATION OF A PARKING VARIANCE CORRECTION, A PARKING REDUCTION IN PENDING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, APPROVAL OF A ZONING ORDINANCE.
MY NAME IS JOHN KIM PLANNER WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
UH, LET ME MOVE THIS SLIDE FORWARD.
SO HERE'S THE LOCATOR MAP FOR THE, UH, PARK BOULEVARD STATES WEST SCHOOL SITE.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, IT IS CURRENTLY ALL UNDER ONE LOT.
THEY ARE PROPOSING TO SEPARATE THE LOTS INTO FOUR DIFFERENT LOTS.
AND RIGHT NOW, RIGHT NOW, CAN YOU HEAR ME? HELLO? I THINK, I THINK MY MIC WENT OUT, BUT I'LL TRY TO SPEAK UP.
UH, SO RIGHT NOW, UM, ON THE LOT, THERE IS A HIGH SCHOOL, UH, HAGGARD MIDDLE MIDDLE SCHOOL, AND THEN THE PLANO AQUATICS CENTER.
AND THEY ARE PROPOSING, UH, SEVERAL DIFFERENT, UM, EXPANSIONS AND RELOCATION OF THE MIDDLE SCHOOL, AS WELL AS UPDATES TO THE VARIOUS ATHLETIC FACILITIES.
AND SO THAT'S WHY THEY'RE SPLITTING INTO FOUR LOTS.
AND HERE IS THE PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN.
AND AS PART OF THE, UH, PROPOSED, UH, EXPANSIONS FOR THE SCHOOL BUILDING, UM, FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL, THEY ARE BASING IT ON THE DESIGN CAPACITY OF 1800 STUDENTS OR 1800 SPACES TO FILL THE NEED FOR THAT CAPACITY.
AND THEY'RE REQUESTING A REDUCTION OF, UH, 236 SPACES FROM 1800 TO 1564.
AND THEY DO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS, UM, AS REQUIRED BY THE ORDINANCE.
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REPL IS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED, AND THE PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN IS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL WITH A 13.2% PARKING REDUCTION AS REQUESTED.I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONER BRONSKI.
SO I HAVE ONE QUESTION ON THE, UM, PARKING REDUCTION, UH, LETTER A WHERE IT SAYS, UH, THE REDUCTION IS NOT ANTICIPATED TO CREATE PARKING ISSUES.
UH, WHAT HAPPENS, UH, IN THE PROCESS IF THEY DISCOVER, WE DISCOVER LATER THAT THIS HAS PRODUCED PARKING ISSUES? UH, MR. BELL, DO YOU, COULD YOU EXPLAIN FURTHER ON THAT? SURE.
IN THIS CASE, THEY HAVE THE REDUCTION.
UM, AS LONG AS THEY ARE COMPLIANT WITH THIS SITE PLAN, SHOULD ANY CHANGES BE MADE IN THE FUTURE, THAT PARKING ROOM, UM, REDUCTION CAN BE REVOKED.
SO IT'D BE DEPENDENT ON THEM COMING IN FOR CHANGES AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.
SO EVEN IF IT WERE, EVEN IF IT WERE TO START CREATING A PROBLEM, IT WOULD BE NO WAY TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT IT.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? THAT'S CORRECT.
THERE'S NO MECHANISM IN THE ORDINANCE TO FORCE THEM TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT UNTIL THEY COME IN, UM, TO MAKE A CHANGE TO THE PROPERTY DOWN THE LINE.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ALI? UM, QUICK QUESTION.
SO THE MAIN REASON WHY THIS IS BEING TRIGGERED IS 'CAUSE WE ARE SUBDIVIDED IT INTO FOUR LOTS.
IF IT WAS JUST THE ONE, UM, COHESIVE LOT, THEY, THEY'VE MET A PARKING REQUIREMENT MM-HMM
AND IF MY MATH IS RIGHT, IF YOU TAKE ALL FOUR LOTS TOGETHER, THEY'RE ONLY REDUCE BY FOUR OR 5%.
IT WOULD BE LESS, UM, IF IT WAS FOR THE WHOLE LOT.
UM, AND I, I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE A LOT CLOSER TO MEETING IF IT WERE FOR THE WHOLE LOT AS ONE.
BUT AS YOU SAID, THAT IS WHY THEY'RE SEPARATING INTO FOUR.
SO IS THERE A, ONCE THEY FINISHED WHATEVER IMPROVEMENTS THEY'RE TRYING TO DO ON THE INDIVIDUAL LOTS, WHAT'S THE MECHANISM TO ENSURE THAT LOT ONE R GETS BACK TO THE PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR THE CITY? OR ARE WE GIVEN THIS VARIANCE IN PERPETUITY? SO IT WOULD STAY WITH THE LAND UNTIL THERE'S A FUTURE DEVELOPMENT ON THE SITE.
AND SO IF, YOU KNOW, IF WE FOUND THAT ADDITIONAL PARKING MAY HAVE, MAY BE REQUIRED, UM, THEN WE CAN ADDRESS THAT IN FUTURE, UH, SUBMITTALS.
SO, UM, FULL UP QUESTION ON THAT.
THE OTHER LOTS ARE INCREASING THEIR PARKING ABOVE THE REQUIREMENT.
UM, WHAT MECHANISM EXISTS IF THEY DECIDE TO REDUCE THEIR PARKING BACK TO THEIR ILLEGAL REQUIREMENTS, WHICH WOULD TAKE ANOTHER EASILY A HUNDRED LOT, UM, PARKING LOTS OFF OF THE WHOLE FOUR SITES.
UM, WHICH WOULD CREATE THE PARKING CONSTRAINTS THAT I THINK COMMISSIONER BRONSKI WAS POKING AT.
WHAT, WHAT, WHAT MECHANISM DO WE HAVE AS A CITY TO ALMOST EMBED THIS INCREASES IN LAW TWO, THREE, AND FOUR MM-HMM
AS A CRITERIA TO GIVE THIS VARIANCE? AM I MAKING SENSE? I'M NOT QUITE CERTAIN.
I'M NOT AWARE OF A, OF A CONDITION THAT COULD DO THAT BY THEY ARE MEETING THE LETTER OF THE CODE WITH THE OTH FOR THE OTHER LOTS.
SO EVERYTHING ELSE IS MEETING EXCEPT LOT ONE RI WILL SHARE THAT THIS IS, UM, THE DIRECTION TO SUBDIVIDED IN THIS WAY WAS DONE STRICTLY FOR PHASING.
THEY'VE GOT OVERLAPPING CONSTRUCTION TIMELINES THAT DON'T WORK NEATLY WITH OUR ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURES FOR PLATTING AND SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS.
SO THE IDEA TO SEPARATE IN FOUR LOTS, HELP THEM GET, UM, SEPARATE TIMING AND GET THE IMPROVEMENTS INSPECTED AND ACCEPTED BY THE CITY AT, AT DIFFERENT TIMES.
UM, THERE, WE DID DISCUSS WITH THE, UH, SCHOOL DISTRICT THE POSSIBILITY OF COMBINING IT ALL BACK INTO ONE LOT ONCE THE PROJECT IS FINISHED.
THAT THAT'LL BE THEIR DECISION IN THE END.
BUT THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED AS, AS A POSSIBLE OUTCOME.
UM, CHAIR, I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING THE, UM, THE TWO DIAGRAMS HERE.
IT LOOKS LIKE ONE OF THEM IS FOR THE REPL, THE, UH, REPL THE ONE LOT INTO FOUR LOTS MM-HMM
AND THE SECOND ONE SEEMED TO BE A SITE PLAN THAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE.
AND THAT, I'M ASSUMING THAT'S THE CURRENT CONFIGURATION THEY HAVE, OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S NEW AFTER THEY SUBDIVIDE THE LOT INTO FOUR LOTS AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA DIVIDE, UH, DESIGN? IS THIS A NEW SITE PLAN WHEN WE, SO WHEN WE PROVE THIS ITEM,
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DOES IT INCLUDE APPROVAL TO THIS PARTICULAR SITE PLAN? YEP.SO AS MR. BELL MENTIONED, UM, THE REASON FOR THE REPLANT IS TO KIND OF HELP WITH THE PHASING FOR THE SITE.
AND SO THE PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN SHOWN HERE, IT IS ACCOMMODATING FOR LIKE, THE NEW ATHLETIC FACILITIES, THE NEW, UH, MIDDLE SCHOOL, AS WELL AS THE EXPANSIONS FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL.
SO THE PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN THAT YOU'RE APPROVING TODAY WILL KIND OF BE THE, I GUESS THE END GOAL THEY HAVE IN MIND FOR THE WHOLE CAMPUS, INCLUDING ALL FOUR LOTS.
UM, BUT THIS WAY THAT THEY CAN DO, UH, SITE PLANS FOR EACH LOT SEPARATELY WITHOUT HAVING TO OVERLAP WITH EACH OTHER IN THE, I GUESS, CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE.
SO WE ARE APPROVING THE ONE WHICH IS DIVIDING INTO FOUR LOTS.
AND SECOND PART IS THE, ALL THE DETAILED PLANS ON THIS SITE PLAN.
AND THE PARKING SPACES THAT ARE, UM, PROPOSED, UM, ON THIS TABLE, THE TABLE THAT, ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, THAT, UH, THOSE ARE THE PAR NUMBER OF PARKING THAT'S PROPOSED ON THIS PARTICULAR SITE PLAN, IS THAT CORRECT? YES.
I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY A COUPLE ITEMS. SO THE MIDDLE SCHOOL WANT TO, UM, CURRENTLY SHOWING 183 PARKING SPOTS, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
AND THE, THE REVISED PLAN IS 99 ACCORDING, ACCORDING TO THE CHART IN THE ORIGINAL NO, IT'S, IT'S SHOWING THAT THE REQUIRED IS 99 VERSUS 183.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THE, THE COMMENT THAT TYPICALLY MIDDLE SCHOOLERS DON'T EVEN DRIVE TO SCHOOL.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PARKING SPACES THAT ARE PROBABLY NOT GONNA BE APPLICABLE.
UM, AND DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW FROM THE APPLICANT, IS THERE A CURRENT PARKING ISSUE RIGHT NOW? UH, I'M NOT AWARE OF ONE.
BUT THE, I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS AVAILABLE IN QUESTIONS, IS THAT RIGHT? YES.
I, I'D JUST BE CURIOUS TO KNOW IF THERE'S CURRENTLY A PARKING ISSUE.
I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS, BUT JUST BE CURIOUS.
WE'LL, WE'LL GET THE APPLICANT UP HERE ONCE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WE CAN ASK HIM QUESTIONS AT THAT POINT.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD THOUGH, TO YOUR POINT THAT THE PARKING SPACES ARE EFFECTIVELY MANAGED BY ONE ENTITY, AND THE LOT LINES ARE REALLY DRAWN FOR CONSTRUCTION PURPOSES.
BUT IN THE END, THE PARKING SPACES ARE REALLY SERVING SOME OF THE OUTDOOR RECREATION FACILITIES THAT'LL BE USED BY BOTH SCHOOLS.
COMMISSIONER BRUNHOFF, UH, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
UM, DO YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON THE, UH, WHETHER OR NOT THERE ARE UNUTILIZED PARKING SPACES AT THE PRESENT TIME ON THE PROPERTY? AND IF SO, HOW MANY? UH, I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT AT THIS TIME.
UM, THE APPLICANT MAY BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT.
COMMISSIONER LINGENFELTER, I WAS GOING TO ASK SIMILAR QUESTIONS.
BASICALLY, I WANTED TO FIND OUT IF YOU DID SOME KIND OF PARKING ANALYSIS.
UM, OBVIOUSLY I, I'M, I ACTUALLY GRADUATED FROM PLANO SENIOR HIGH, UH, BACK BEFORE WEST DIDN'T EXISTS, SO, UH, BUT I DO KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE 3000 PLUS STUDENTS ALONG WITH ALL THOSE TEACHERS, UM, 1500 PARKING SPOTS MAY BECOME A PREMIUM, UM, UH, FOR MANY.
SO JUST, UH, JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, DOING THE MATH WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT 3000 STUDENTS, JUNIORS AND SENIORS ALL DRIVING, NOT MIDDLE SCHOOLERS, ACTUALLY HIGH SCHOOLERS IN THIS CASE, UM, IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE A PROBLEM.
SO I JUST, UH, HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
MR. KIM, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THE PARKING IS BASED ON CAPACITY, CORRECT? YES.
OVER THE ENROLLMENT MAY BE MUCH LESS.
I BELIEVE WE DID DISCUSS THAT WITH THE APPLICANT.
MAYBE THEY CAN ELABORATE ON THAT.
YEAH, I'D LIKE TO JUST FIND THAT OUT.
'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY I KNOW IT'S BASED ON OCCUPANCY AND, AND YOU KNOW, OR NOT, OR WELL, OR THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, BUT MM-HMM
YOU KNOW, BUT THIS IS, WE DO KNOW THE LOGISTICS, UH, OF THE ENROLLMENT AS WELL.
AND SO IF YOU'RE GOING LESS, YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT BE CAUSING MORE ISSUES, SO.
ANY OTHER TECHNICAL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? UH, I WANTED COMMISSIONER LOLLY.
I WANTED TO KNOW IF, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE CITY ALLOWS STREET PARKING IN THAT AREA, LIKE ON WEST SIDE, AND IF IT HAPPENED, HOW ARE WE GONNA CONTROL IT? YES.
UNLESS IT'S RESTRICTED BY SIGNAGE THAT THERE'S NO PARKING, AND TYPICALLY THERE CAN BE, UH, ON STREET PARKING.
THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO COUNT THOSE TOWARDS THEIR PARKING COUNTS.
UM, BUT, UM, AS LONG AS BUT CAN BE, IT'S NOT, AS LONG AS IT'S NOT SIGNED OFF FOR NO PARKING, THEY CAN PARK THERE.
UM, I CAN ANSWER COMMISSIONER OLLY'S QUESTION.
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UH, MY WIFE HAPPENS TO ATTEND, UM, DEEP WATER AEROBICS CLASSES AT THE AQUATIC CENTER, WHICH HAPPENS TO BE LOCATED ON LOT THREE ON THIS PLAT.I'VE DRIVEN WITH HER TO THAT FACILITY, YOU KNOW, FROM TIME TO TIME.
AND THERE ARE ALWAYS CARS PARKED ON WEST SIDE DRIVE, BUT THERE ARE ALSO VACANT PARKING PLACES ON THE SCHOOL PARKING LOT AT THE SAME TIME.
SO YES, THE CARS CAN PARK ON WEST SIDE AND THEY DO.
THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THERE'S SPILLOVER.
ANY OTHER TECHNICAL QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM? THANK YOU.
THE APPLICANT IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AND WE HAVE ONE REGISTERED OPINION IN SUPPORT OF OKAY.
IF THE APPLICANT WOULD COME FORWARD.
I THINK WE, SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU,
UM, I'M, MY NAME'S RONNIE KLING BELL.
UH, I ADDRESS IS ONE 11 WEST MAIN STREET IN ALLEN, TEXAS.
AND I'LL BE GLAD TO ATTEMPT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, IF YOU CAN KIND OF, YOU, YOU HEARD THE QUESTIONS ABOUT PARKING.
CAN YOU JUST GIVE US KIND OF SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION ABOUT THE PARKING COUNT'S CAPACITY VERSUS, UH, USAGE? USAGE? YES.
UH, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE DISTRICTS DO THE DEMOGRAPHIC CHANGES, UH, IN, WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CITY OF PLANO IS MATURING, IF YOU WILL, AND I KNOW THEIR STUDENT POPULATION THROUGHOUT THE, THE DISTRICT IS, IS TRENDING DOWNWARD.
AND, UH, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING CURRENTLY THEY HAVE ENOUGH PARKING SPACES ON CAMPUS AND THE DISTRICT FEELS LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF THEY NEEDED ADDITIONAL PARKING, THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD ADD THEM.
BUT DUE TO THE FACT THAT THEIR STUDENT POPULATION IS IN A DOWNWARD TREND AND THEY EXPECT THAT TO CONTINUE IN THE FUTURE, THEY FEEL LIKE THE NUMBER OF PARKING THAT THEY HAVE IS, IS, IS CURRENTLY ADEQUATE.
QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ANYBODY? ALRIGHT.
ANY OTHER SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? THERE ARE NONE.
UM, COMMISSIONERS, ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER ALI? UH, I MOVE, WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE, REPLY AS SUBMITTED, AND, UH, TAKE THE, UH, ON THE CITY'S, UH, RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE 13.2 PARKING REDUCTION AS REQUESTED.
COMMISSIONER TONG, I SECOND COMMISSIONER BENDER.
I, I WAS GONNA SECOND, SO I'M GOOD.
UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE, BEFORE WE VOTE? NOBODY? UH, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
[2. (DW) Public Hearing – Preliminary Replat & Preliminary Site Plan: Plano East Senior High School Addition, Block 1, Lot 1R – Public school on one lot on 67.1 acres located at the northeast corner of Los Rios Boulevard and Merriman Drive. Zoned Estate Development. Project #PR2024-035 & RSP2024-052. Applicant: Plano Independent School District. (Administrative consideration pending Board of Adjustment approval of a zoning ordinance variance)]
ITEM NUMBER TWO, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO, PUBLIC HEARING PRELIMINARY REPL AND PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN.PLANO E SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL EDITION BLOCK ONE LOT ONE R PUBLIC SCHOOL ON ONE LOT ON 67.1 ACRES LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF LOS RIOS BOULEVARD AND MERRIMAN DRIVE ZONED AT STATE DEVELOPMENT.
APPLICANT IS PLANO INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT.
THIS ITEM IS FOR ADMINISTRATIVE CONSIDERATION, PENDING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, APPROVAL OF A ZONING ORDINANCE, VARIANCE.
MY NAME IS DESTINY WOODS PLANNER WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
UM, AND ON THE SCREEN WE HAVE A, THE PRELIMINARY REPL AND THE REVISED SITE PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT.
SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS REVISED SITE PLAN IS TO SHOW THE PROPOSED BUILDING EXPANSION, UM, OF ONE OF THE BUILDINGS, BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL, DUGOUTS, TENNIS COURTS, AND ADDED PARKING.
UM, SO PREVIOUSLY A PRELIMINARY REPL, OR EXCUSE ME, A PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN, UH, WAS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION SUBJECT TO VARIANCES FOR BY THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.
UM, TO REDUCE THE A HUNDRED FOOT BLEACHER SETBACK, ALLOW A FENCE TO BE LESS THAN 50, UM, PERCENT OPEN IN CONSTRUCTION AND REDUCE THE REQUIRED AMOUNT OF PARKING BY 41%.
THESE VARIANCES WERE DENIED BY THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND THE APPLICANT CAME BACK WITH A DIFFERENT REQUEST AND UPDATED DESIGN.
UM, SO THE SITE WAS REDESIGNED TO MEET THE FENCE AND BLEACHER
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REQUIREMENTS AT 18 PARKING SPACES AND REQUEST THE FOLLOWING PARKING REDUCTIONS.UM, SO THEY'RE, THEY HAVE INCREASED THOSE PARKING SPACES BY 18 SPACES AND THEY'RE REQUESTING A 10% STORM WATER CONSERVATION REDUCTION FROM STAFF, UM, 20% REDUCTION FROM THIS COMMISSION.
AND IF THE 20% REDUCTION IS APPROVED BY THIS COMMISSION, THEN THEY WOULD NEED A 10.9% REDUCTION FROM THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.
UM, THE CONDITIONS FOR A 20% PLANNING AND ZONING ISSUED PARKING REDUCTION HAVE BEEN MET AS NOTED IN THE STAFF REPORT.
UM, AND APPROVAL OF THE REVISED SITE PLAN WILL ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO SUBMIT A VARIANCE REQUEST, UM, TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.
AND, UM, THE PRELIMINARY REPL IS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL SUBJECT TO ADDITIONS AND ALTERATIONS BY THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
UM, AND THE REVISED SITE PLAN IS ALSO RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT APPROVAL OF, UM, THE VARIANCE FOR 270 PARKING SPACES.
AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
COMMISSION TECHNICAL QUESTIONS FOR THE STAFF.
COMMISSIONER ALI, I JUST ONE RECAP IN, SO IT'S STILL THE 41% REDUCTION ULTIMATELY, BUT THEY ARE UTILIZING THE STORM WATER CONSERVATION REDUCTION, WHICH STAFF CAN GRANT AND PNZ IS 20%, LEAVING THEM WITH ONLY 10.9 WITH THE BOARD.
THE FEEDBACK FROM THE BOARD SEEMS TO SUGGEST THEIR DENIAL WAS ON THE SETBACK.
WAS THERE ANY SPECIFIC FEEDBACK FROM THE BOARD ON PARKING REDUCTION? UM, SO WHEN THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT VARIANCES WERE DENIED, THEY WERE DENIED AS ONE, BUT, UM, MOST OF THE DISCUSSION SURROUNDED AROUND THE BLEACHERS AND THE PROXIMITY TO THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD NEARBY.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BROSKI.
SO, UH, I KNOW WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT, UH, A SEA OF PARKING AND, UH, THE PROBLEMS WE HAVE THROUGH THE CITY, BUT I LOOK AT A 41% REDUCTION, AND I'VE GOTTA ASK MYSELF, SO I'M GONNA ASK YOU, UH, IF WE'RE REQUIRING 25 51, BUT WE'RE COMFORTABLE REDUCING IT BY 41%, UH, WHERE IS OUR CALCULUS WRONG IN, UH, WHAT OUR REQUIREMENTS ARE AT THE BEGINNING? UM, SO THAT STANDARD HAS BEEN SET BY OUR ZONING ORDINANCE.
UM, AND SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT MAY BE ADDRESSED LATER WHEN WE DECIDE TO REWRITE OUR ZONING ORDINANCE.
UM, BUT AS FAR AS WHY THAT'S THE REQUIREMENT, THAT'S JUST WHAT WAS DECIDED ON A WHILE BACK WHEN IT WAS DRAFTED THAT WAY.
YEAH, TYPICALLY WHAT'S USED IN THOSE ARE NATIONAL STANDARDS ON THEIR COMPANIES THAT PERFORM STUDIES ON HOW MANY PARKING SPACES ARE, ARE, ARE PAR, HOW MUCH PARKING IS DEMAND IS GENERATED FOR THESE TYPES OF USES.
UM, MY ONLY ASSUMPTION IS THAT AT THE TIME WHEN THIS ORDINANCE WAS WRITTEN PROBABLY DECADES AGO, THE DEMAND AT THE HIGH SCHOOLS WAS HIGHER.
UM, WE SEE LESS DEMAND FOR, UM, STUDENTS WITH DRIVER'S LICENSES NOW, PLUS WE HAVE, UM, UH, REDUCTION IN ENROLLMENT.
AND SO I THINK THAT'S REALLY WHAT'S DRIVEN THE NUMBER THAT'S IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE TODAY.
IT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD DEFINITELY LOOK AT WITH THE REWRITE TO SEE IF THERE ARE UPDATED, UM, NATIONAL STANDARDS ON PARKING DEMAND.
UM, I ALSO WANNA ADD, FOR ALL THREE OF THESE HIGH SCHOOL SITES, I WAS, I WAS UNABLE TO ASCERTAIN WHY, UM, BUT THE PREVIOUS PLANS APPROVED FOR THESE SITES, UM, DECADES AGO, HAD A LOWER PARKING COUNT.
UM, WE'VE APPLIED THE NEW REQUIRE THE CURRENT REQUIREMENTS BASED ON CAPACITY AS IT'S AS IT IS TODAY, BUT THERE WAS, THERE ARE ACTUALLY AN INCREASE IN PARKING ON ALL THREE OF THESE HIGH SCHOOL SITES.
SO IT MAY NOT LOOK LIKE THAT BASED ON THE PURE TABLE, BUT ON THE, ON THE GROUND, THERE ARE MORE SPACE FOR EACH OF THESE SITES.
SO WHEN YOU SAY, UH, LOWER, ARE YOU SAYING LOWER THAN WHAT WE'RE APPROVING OR ARE YOU SAYING LOWER THAN WHAT THE RE REQUEST, UH, REQUIRED PARKING.
IT IS LOWER THAN THE REQUIRED PARKING PER THE ORDINANCE, BUT IT IS MORE PHYSICAL PARKING SPACES ON THE SITE THAN EXISTS TODAY.
NO, I, AND I CAN, AS AGAIN, I CAN APPRECIATE THIS.
I THINK I JUST, I WANNA BE VERY CAREFUL AS WE GRANT THESE THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE REALIZE THAT ONCE THIS IS GRANTED, THIS IS NO TAKE BACK.
AND, YOU KNOW, SHOULD THERE BE NEIGHBORS AND OTHERS UNHAPPY BECAUSE THERE ARE PARKING RELATED ISSUES, UH,
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WE'RE STUCK.AND A 41% REDUCTION IS A VERY LARGE REDUCTION TO BE GRANTING.
AND I JUST WANNA POINT THAT OUT.
UH, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CAREFUL ABOUT GRANTING SOMETHING THIS SIZE SIMPLY FOR THE REASON THAT ONCE IT'S THERE, IF THEY HAVE PROBLEMS, WE CAN'T FIX IT.
I HAVE A SIMILAR CONCERN AS, UH, UM, COMMISSIONER, UM, BROSKY, UH, REGARDING THE WHY AND I APPRECIATE, UH, MR. BELL EXPLAINED THAT, THAT WE WANTED TO GET THE WHY, BUT I DON'T THINK YOU GOT THE WHY
UM, SO I GUESS THIS MIGHT BE A QUESTION TO THE APPLICANTS OR THE APPLICANTS HERE TODAY.
'CAUSE WE NEED TO KNOW WHY THEY ARE DOING THIS REDUCTION, RIGHT? YEAH, THEY'LL BE UP IN THE PUBLIC HEARING, SO WE CAN ASK THEM THEN.
YEAH, THEN THAT'LL BE FOR THE APPLICANT.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER LOLLY.
I HAD SIMILAR CONCERN TOO, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, LIKE I THOUGHT THAT, UM, ACTUALLY IF WE GIVE THEM THE STORM CONSERVATION, WE'RE GONNA BE GIVING THEM 30% OF PARKING REDUCTIONS AND ARE THEY ADDING TO THE SCHOOL? SO IF THE ENROLLMENT IS LOWER, WHY ARE THEY ADDING, UH, I ASSUME CLASSES AND, UH, LABS AND ALL OTHER FACILITIES, RIGHT? SO IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S LIKE A CONFLICTING, RIGHT? SO THAT'S MY CONCERN.
UM, IN MY UNDERSTANDING, THEY'RE ADDING TO, UM, A, LIKE A GYM AREA.
SO TO EXPAND THE SIZE, I COULD BE MISTAKEN, BUT ALSO FOR STORM, A STORM SHELTER, AS WELL AS GOING INTO WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THE BUILDING EXPANSION IS.
BUT THE APPLICANT MIGHT BE ABLE TO GO INTO MORE DETAIL.
COMMISSIONER BENDER, THANK YOU.
UH, JUST ONE COMMENT THAT TYPICALLY AT THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL, SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL, THE SCHOOL CONTROLS PARKING PERMITS.
SO IT'S SOMEWHAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY MANAGE THE PARKING.
SO IT'S NOT THAT JUST, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE 3000 PEOPLE SHOW UP AND THEIR PARKING IN NEIGHBORHOODS AND EVERYTHING.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE CASE.
I BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE PARKING PERMITS REQUIRED THAT THE SCHOOL ISSUES IN ORDER TO PARK ON CAMPUS.
SO, UH, I THINK THERE'S A CONTROL IN SITUATION THERE JUST TO COMMENT.
UH, I WANTED TO SEE IF MIKE CAN GO FORWARD ON THE NUGGET HE DROPPED.
SO WITH THE 1516 SPACES, YOU'RE SAYING IT WILL BE AN INCREASE FROM WHAT IS ON GROUND TODAY? DID I AGREE THAT CORRECTLY? YES, I, I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT.
THERE WAS, THE ORIGINAL PLANS HAD A MUCH LOWER PARKING REQUIREMENT AND I, I DON'T KNOW WHY, UM, THE MATH WAS NOT SHOWN IN THE, IN THE CAPACITY AT THAT TIME.
SO WE'RE USING THE CAPACITY BASED ON THE, WHAT THE ARCHITECT HAS GIVEN US WITH THESE UPDATED PLANS AND ARRIVED AT THIS HIGHER NUMBER.
THEREFORE, I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S REALLY DRIVING THE REDUCTION, IS THEY'RE TRYING TO MEET WHAT THEY ALREADY HAVE ON SITE PLUS SOME ADDITIONAL SPACES.
SO WHILE TECHNICALLY IT'S A 41% REDUCTION, IT'S ACTUALLY GETTING MORE PARKING.
UM, QUESTION FOR ME, IS IT A COINCIDENCE THAT BOTH OF THESE HIGH SCHOOL SITES HAVE ROUGHLY THE SAME AMOUNT OF PARKING? OR IS THAT, UM,
IT JUST SEEMED LIKE BOTH OF 'EM NEEDED ABOUT 1500 SPACES, SO, UH, IT, IT, IT SEEMED AWFULLY CONVENIENT THAT THEY WERE WITHIN 50 SPACES OF EACH OTHER, SO.
ANY OTHER TECHNICAL QUESTIONS FOR THE STAFF? SEEING NONE, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? THE APPLICANT IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS, AND WE HAD ONE REGISTERED OPINION IN SUPPORT OF THE ITEM.
IF THE APPLICANT HAD COME DOWN AGAIN AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD AGAIN, AND THEN ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PARKING AGAIN, PLEASE.
I'M WITH RLK ENGINEERING AND, UH, RESIDE AT ONE 11 WEST MAIN STREET IN ALLEN, TEXAS.
AND, UH, I THINK I MIGHT BE THE ONE IN FAVOR BECAUSE I HAD TO CHECK A BOX THERE.
UH, ONE THING I'D LIKE TO MENTION TOO, I KNOW, UH, YOU TALKED ABOUT WHY, UH, ARE THE REQUIREMENTS THE WAY THEY ARE? I KNOW, UM, FOR INSTANCE, ON THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, AND, UH, I KNOW MR. BELL MAY BE ABLE TO CORRECT ME, BUT I, I BELIEVE IT'S ONE PER 17 STUDENTS IS A REQUIREMENT FOR AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
AND FOR INSTANCE, ON AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WITH 800 STUDENTS AT ONE TO 17, YOU ONLY NEED 47 PARKING SPACES,
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WHICH REALLY, THE DISTRICT TYPICALLY LIKES TO HAVE ABOUT 110 PARKING SPACES AT, UM, AT AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AS, AS KIND OF A RULE OF THUMB.IS THE, MAYBE THE ORDINANCE MAYBE NEED TO, MIGHT NEED TO BE LOOKED AT.
I MEAN, KIND OF IN THE, ON THE FLIP SIDE FOR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, BECAUSE THAT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE LOW.
SO, UM, THE HIGH SCHOOLS AND, AND LACK WAS, IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, THE, UH, THE, UM, FOR WHATEVER REASON, THE, THE EXISTING, UH, PARKING SPACES AT THE, AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, UH, WE'RE NOT, UH, WE'RE NOT REDUCING WHAT'S THERE TODAY.
UM, IT, THE DIRECTIVE WE WERE GIVEN WAS TO MAINTAIN THAT THE NUMBER THAT'S THERE, UH, AS CLOSELY AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE, UH, THERE ALL THE LOTS RIGHT NOW FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, ARE NOT BEING 100% UTILIZED.
AND, UM, THEY WANNA MAKE, THE DISTRICT WANTS TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT REMAINS THE CASE.
AND THESE, UH, UH, ADDITIONS ARE, UH, MAJORITY OF THE ADDITIONS WERE FOR ATHLETIC PURPOSES AND JUST UPGRADE THE FACILITIES THAT IT'S NOT FOR AN INCREASE IN STUDENT POPULATION.
UM, SO ANYWAYS, THAT'S JUST WHAT I'D LIKE TO ADD, SO.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? MR. ALI? YES, SIR.
DO YOU HAVE A ROUGH ESTIMATE OF WHAT IS ON GROUND IN TERMS OF PARKING RIGHT NOW? UH, THE TOTAL NUMBER? YEAH, I DO NOT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
I WAS THINKING IT WAS 15 OR 1600.
SO WE ARE AT, IN 18 PARKING WELLS.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? MR. LOLLY? UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY, YOU KNOW, LIKE, UH, REPORT OR ANALYSIS, HOW MANY PARKING SPOTS THAT ARE ARE NOT USED RIGHT NOW ON CAMPUS OR I DO NOT, I DO NOT KNOW.
OR DID THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DO THESE KIND OF, UH,
I, I'M NOT AWARE OF WHAT IT IS.
I JUST KNOW THEY'RE NOT UTILIZING ALL OF THEM.
I JUST, YOU KNOW, LIKE IF THEY DO, IT'LL HELP US MAKE THE DECISION IF THEY'RE NOT USING ALL THEIR EXISTING PARKING SPACES.
SO IT'S EASIER FOR US TO KNOW THAT IT'S NOT YOU, LIKE, LIKE YOU'RE SAYING, PROBABLY THE ORDINANCES HAS SOME YES, MA'AM.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? SEEING NONE.
I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, RESTRICT COMMENTS TO THE COMMISSION.
COMMISSIONER ALI, AGAIN, THIS SEEMS TO BE A, JUST A CONSEQUENCE OF THEM BEING GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF REPLANTING AND WHAT HAVE YOU AND TRIGGERING.
SO IT'S, WHILE ON THE FACE OF IT, IT LOOKS LIKE A MASSIVE REDUCTION IN REALITY IS NOT.
SO WITH THAT IN MIND, I RECOMMEND I MOVE.
WE APPROVE, UH, THE PRELIMINARY REPLY SUBJECT TO ADDITIONS AND OR ALTERATIONS TO THE ENGINEERING PLANS AS REQUIRED BY THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND APPROVE THE REVISED SITE PLAN OR RECOMMEND FOR APPROVAL TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT OF A VARIANCE TO SUBSECTION 16.700 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
REDUCE THE REQUIRED AMOUNT OF PARKING BY 270 SPACES.
COMMISSIONER TOG, I HAD A QUESTION, BUT NOW I THINK I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND SECOND AND THEN WE CAN PUT COMMENTS, THEN WE CAN DISCUSS.
UM, MY QUESTION ACTUALLY IS MORE FOR, UM, PROBABLY MIKE AND OUR STAFF MEMBERS BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS, THERE ARE ALREADY PARKINGS THERE AND THE ACTUAL PARKING THERE IS MORE THAN THEIR, UH, REQUIRED, I GUESS RIGHT NOW IT'S REQUIRED 1516, NO, SORRY, IT'S PROVIDING 1516 AND THEY HAVE MORE THAN 15, 16? NO, THEY HAVE 1498.
AND WHEN DID THEY GET THE 1498 APPROVED? A LONG TIME AGO.
SO WHEN THEY WERE PROVED THAT, DID THEY HAVE A, LIKE A, A VARIANCE OR SOMETHING? IS THAT STILL AVAILABLE? WE WERE LOOKING INTO THAT AND WERE UN UNABLE TO FIND ANY, UM,
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DECISIVE INFORMATION AS TO WHETHER THEY GOT A REDUCTION OR SOME OTHER MECHANISM TO REDUCE THEIR PARKING OR IF THERE WAS SIMPLY JUST A, A CAPACITY, UM, DIFFERENCE IN CALCULATION ON CAPACITY AT THE TIME.SO MY QUESTION IS THAT SHOULD WE JUST, 'CAUSE I'M THINKING LIKE THIS IS MAYBE A CORRECTING AN ERROR THAT HAS HAPPENED BEFORE.
UH, INSTEAD OF APPROVING A REDUCTION OF THE PLAN BASED ON THE NEEDS OR ANALYSIS OR ANYTHING, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY PLANS, WE DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION FROM THE SUKU DISTRICT.
I APPRECIATE THIS ENGINEER COMES DOWN TO BE THE APPLICANT, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE HE DOESN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE WHY OR HOW AND HOW THEY GOT THE NUMBER AND WE DON'T KNOW HOW THEY HAD THE NUMBER.
THERE'S NO ANALYSIS, THERE'S NO USAGE.
THE ONLY THING, THE ONLY REASON WHY WE'RE DOING THIS IS BECAUSE THERE WAS AN ERROR.
IT'S ALREADY ON THE GROUND AND WE HAVE TO APPROVE IT BECAUSE IT'S BETTER THAN THE AIR ON THE GROUND.
IS THAT RIGHT? I DON'T, I WOULDN'T CHARACTERIZE IT QUITE THAT WAY.
UM, I BELIEVE WE DO ACTUALLY HAVE USAGE RATES THAT WAS PRESENTED TO BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS.
SO, UM, MR. ROCKER BE, HAS PROVIDED ME SOME INFORMATION.
THEY HAVE A, ACTUALLY FOR EACH PARKING LOT, UM, THEY RANGE FROM ANYWHERE FROM UP TO 40% OF THIS SPACE IS BEING USED UP TO A HUNDRED PERCENT.
I GUESS THOSE, THE PARKING LOTS CLOSEST ARE PROBABLY THE A HUNDRED PERCENT.
BUT THERE IS A, UM, A RANGE THAT THEY DID PROVIDE FOR BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT TO JUSTIFY THEIR, UM, THEIR VARIANCE AT THAT TIME.
SO WE COULD PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO YOU IF IT'S HELPFUL.
SO I HAVE A QUESTION AND, UM, JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON COMMISSIONER TONG'S QUESTION, IF IT'S BEEN EXISTING OUT THERE AT 1498 FOR HOWEVER MANY YEARS ARE WE, ARE WE AWARE OF ANY ENFORCEMENT ISSUES, ANY COMPLAINTS FROM THE NEIGHBORS ABOUT ANY PARKING CHALLENGES THAT THEY HAVE HAD? OUR TRANSPORTATION TRAFFIC ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT DOES REVIEW THESE PLANS AND TYPICALLY WILL BRING THOSE UP DURING REVIEW AND THEY DID NOT BRING ANY TO OUR ATTENTION.
SO I CAN ONLY ASSUME THE ANSWER IS NO.
SO THEY HAD NO OBJECTION, NO RECOGNITION THAT THERE WAS A PREVIOUS PROBLEM THAT NEEDED TO BE SOLVED? CORRECT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR, A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ALI, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER TONG.
UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT, EVERYBODY, PLEASE VOTE.
[4. (DB) Discussion and Action – Conformance of Proposed 2025 Bond Referendum Items with the Comprehensive Plan: Consideration of the proposed 2025 Bond Referendum items and conformance with the Comprehensive Plan. Project #DI2024-019. Applicant: City of Plano. (Legislative consideration)]
ALL RIGHT.UM, AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR, I'M GOING TO REARRANGE THE AGENDA A LITTLE BIT 'CAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF STAFF MEMBERS HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER FOUR AND NOT NEARLY AS MANY STAFF MEMBERS HERE FOR ITEMS NUMBER THREE A AND THREE B.
SO I'M SORRY FOR THE ONES THAT ARE HERE FOR THREE A AND THREE B, BUT, UH, I'M GOING TO, I'M GONNA JUMP THE LINE.
UM, SO IF WE CAN READ NUMBER FOUR, PLEASE, ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION, NON-PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS, THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL PERMIT LIMITED PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS ON, ON THE AGENDA NOT POSTED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL ESTABLISH TIME LIMITS BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKER REQUESTS LINKED UP THE AGENDA.
AND TO ENSURE MEETING EFFICIENCY MAY INCLUDE A TOTAL TIME LIMIT AGENDA ITEM AGENDA BY ITEM NUMBER FOUR, DISCUSSION AND ACTION CONFORMANCE OF PROPOSED 2025 BOND REFERENDUM ITEMS WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CONSIDERATION OF THE PROPOSED 2025 BOND REFERENDUM ITEMS AND CONFORMANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN APPLICANT IS CITY OF PLANO.
THIS ITEM IS FOR LEGISLATIVE CONSIDERATION.
MY NAME IS DREW BRONER, LEAD PLANNER WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
I WILL BRIEFLY INTRODUCE THIS ITEM GIVEN THE NUMBER OF GUEST SPEAKERS THAT WE HAVE.
THE 2025 BOND REFERENDUM IS INTENDED TO ADVANCE THE CITY'S MISSION OF PROVIDING OUTSTANDING SERVICES AND FACILITIES THROUGH COOPERATIVE EFFORTS THAT ENGAGE OUR CITIZENS AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN, IN OUR COMMUNITY.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION'S ROLE IS TO ENSURE THE PROPOSED PROJECTS ALIGN WITH THE POLICIES AND ACTION STATEMENTS OF THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THIS REVIEW IS PROVIDED AS A BEST PRACTICE IN THE BOND REFERENDUM PROCESS AND DOES NOT INVOLVE EVALUATING INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS FOR IMPLEMENTATION.
THE BOND REFERENDUM PROJECT TYPE SHOULD BROADLY REFLECT THE CITY'S LONG TERM GOALS AS OUTLINED IN THE CONFERENCE PLAN, DECISIONS ON SPECIFIC PROJECTS ARE MADE EACH YEAR THROUGH THE ANNUAL BUDGET AND CIP PROCESS.
THE COMMISSION HAS AN ONGOING ROLE IN REVIEWING PROPOSED CIP PROJECTS EACH YEAR TO ENSURE THEY ALIGN WITH COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICIES AND ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF BOTH EXISTING AND FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
THIS ENSURES CONSISTENCY BETWEEN LONG-TERM PLANNING GOALS AND SHORT-TERM PROJECT IMPLEMENTATION.
THERE ARE SEVERAL COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICIES APPLICABLE TO THE PROPOSED BOND REFERENDUM AND ARE IDENTIFIED IN DETAIL IN THE STAFF REPORT.
IN SUMMARY, THE FACILITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE POLICY AND ACTIONS PROVIDE GUIDANCE FOR THE PLANNING AND IMPLEMENTATION OF CITY IMPROVEMENTS AND RELATES TO THE PROPOSED LIST OF BOND REFERENDUM PROJECTS AS A WHOLE.
WHEREAS THE OTHER IDENTIFIED POLICIES PROVIDE MORE SPECIFIC DIRECTION
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FOR THE FUNDING OF CERTAIN PROJECT CATEGORIES.THESE INCLUDE THE POLICIES LIST HERE ON THE SCREEN UNDER THE BUILT SOCIAL AND NATURAL ENVIRONMENT CONFERENCE OF PLAN PILLARS.
AND WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO KAREN RHODES WHITLEY FOR THE BOND REFERENDUM PRESENTATION.
I'M THE BUDGET DIRECTOR HERE AT THE CITY OF PLANO.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING US OUT THIS EVENING.
WE ARE HERE TO DISCUSS THE STAFF RECOMMENDED PROJECTS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE CONSIDERING IN JANUARY TO GO ON THE ELECTION, WHICH IS SCHEDULED FOR MAY 3RD, 2025.
WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL DOES DO, THEY UTILIZE ALL THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS WITHIN THE CITY, INCLUDING PLANNING AND ZONING.
WE ALSO HAVE A BOND REFERENDUM CITIZEN ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT HAS BEEN MEETING SINCE AUGUST.
THEY ARE SCHEDULED TO DELIBERATE WHAT THEY THINK SHOULD BE ON THE BOND PACKAGE TOMORROW.
ALL THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, INCLUDING THE CITIZEN ADVISORY COMMITTEE, IS SUPPOSED TO TURN US IN THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE LIST THAT HAS BEEN PRESCRIBED TO YOU.
AND THOSE WILL BE GIVEN TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
THE CITY COUNCIL IN THE MONTH OF JANUARY WILL BE DECIDING THE FINAL PROJECTS THAT WILL GO BEFORE THE VOTERS.
THEY WILL CALL AN ELECTION, I THINK IT'S SCHEDULED FOR FEBRUARY 13TH, AND THEN OF COURSE THE ELECTION WILL BE MAY 3RD.
WE DO HAVE ALL THE PARTICIPANTS, WE CALL IT THE BOND REFERENDUM ROADSHOW, AND WE HAVE ALL THE STAFF MEMBERS WHO ARE IN CHARGE OF THESE PROJECTS TO GO INDIVIDUALLY, UH, THROUGH THE ACTUAL PROJECTS.
SO RIGHT NOW, I WILL CALL UP RON SMITH AND HERE HE COMES.
HE'S GONNA DISCUSS THE PARKS AND REC PROJECTS.
OH, BEFORE YOU GET UP HERE REAL QUICK, RON.
THE TOTAL RIGHT NOW ON THE BOND REFERENDUM IS $700.7 MILLION.
WE HAVE 342 MILLION IN STREET IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
WE HAVE PARKS AND REC THAT TOTALS 51.6 MILLION PUBLIC SAFETY PROJECTS.
TOTAL, 243.6 MILLION MUNICIPAL FACILITIES, TOTAL 58 MILLION.
AND THEN LIBRARY FACILITIES TOTAL $4.6 MILLION.
SO WE WILL INDIVIDUALLY GO THROUGH THESE.
RON, IF BEFORE YOU, BEFORE WE GET STARTED WITH STAFF PRESENTATIONS.
I JUST WANNA PREFACE FOR EVERYBODY, UM, OUR ROLE HERE TONIGHT IS NOT TO EVALUATE DELIBERATE OR OTHERWISE RANK, UM, ANY OF THE, ANY OF THE PROPOSALS BEFORE US.
OUR JOB IS TO EVALUATE WHETHER OR NOT WE BELIEVE THAT THOSE THAT ARE ON THE LIST, UM, ARE IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
WHETHER THEY'RE GOOD PROJECTS OR BAD PROJECTS IS NOT UP TO US.
OUR JOB IS TO DECIDE WHETHER IT IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE CON COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, CORRECT? YES, THAT IS CORRECT.
SO WHILE WE MAY HAVE OPINIONS ABOUT PROJECTS, THAT'S NOT OUR JOB HERE TONIGHT.
OUR JOB HERE TONIGHT IS TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO WITH THAT SAID, UH, COMMISSIONER BRONSKI, DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT AS WELL? I I I HAVE A QUESTION.
I'M SORRY, WHAT, WHAT WAS YOUR NAME AGAIN? I'M SO SORRY.
WHAT, WHAT WAS YOUR NAME AGAIN? OH, KAREN RHODES WHITLEY.
SO YOU MADE THE STATEMENT THAT THE COUNCIL, UM, RELIES ON ALL THE BOARD'S COMMISSIONS TO PROVIDE THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO, BUT THIS ISN'T OUR, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS IT, IT IS.
WHAT I AM UNDERSTANDING FROM MR. RATLIFF, Y'ALL ARE COINCIDING THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS TO THE MASTER PLAN.
IF FOR SOME REASON YOU WANT TO WRITE IN, NORMALLY WHAT THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS DO, DO IS YES, THEY FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, THIS SHOULD GO FORTH AND THEY APPROVE THESE PROJECTS.
IF FOR SOME REASON YOU WANT TO ADD IN A PROJECT OR SOMETHING ON YOUR RECOMMENDATION, Y'ALL CAN DO THAT.
BUT REALLY, ON P AND Z NORMALLY WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS TO SEE IF IT GOES TO THE MASTER PLAN.
AND MY SECOND QUESTION IS, SO THE LIST THAT'S BEEN PROPOSED IS NOT THE FINAL LIST, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
THIS ALL THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND CITIZEN ADVISORY COMMITTEE, ALL THEY'RE DOING IS LOOKING AT THE LIST AND TELLING THE CITY COUNCIL IF THEY AGREE WITH THE LIST, THE CITY COUNCIL, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT IN JANUARY, ARE GOING TO DECIDE WHAT PROJECTS GO FORWARD TO THE VOTERS.
THAT IS COMPLETELY A CITY COUNCIL JOB.
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OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT CONFORMS WITH THE PLAN, THAT WOULD NOT IMPUTE THAT IF SOMETHING WERE ADDED AFTER OUR MEETING, IT WOULD BE OUR APPROVAL FOR IT, WOULD IT? NO, THAT WOULD NOT, BECAUSE THE CITY COUNCIL'S THE ONES, I, I DON'T THINK ANYTHING'S GONNA BE ADDED, SIR.SO THE CITY COUNCIL, THEY'RE JUST LOOKING TO SEE IF Y'ALL AGREE WITH THE, THIS IS A STAFF RECOMMENDED LIST.
THE CITY COUNCIL WILL GET ALL THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, THE CITIZEN ADVISORY COMMITTEE, THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS.
IT IS THEIR JOB TO DECIDE WHAT PROJECTS GO FORTH.
SO IF THEY ADD SOMETHING IN JANUARY, IS IT GONNA COME BACK THROUGH Y'ALL? NO.
UH, I JUST, WE ONLY, WE DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH TIME TO DO THAT.
NO, AND I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND.
I I JUST, I'VE GOT SOME CONFUSION WITH THE, SOME OF THE LANGUAGE THAT YOU'RE USING COMPARED TO THE LANGUAGE THAT THE CHAIR IS USING AS IT RELATES TO OUR RECOMMENDATION AS FAR AS THE LIST VERSUS OUR IDEA THAT IT CONFORMS WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND SO I'M TRYING TO CLARIFY THAT.
PETER, DO YOU WANNA HELP ME HERE,
WHAT'S ON THE LIST? WELL, MY, MY UNDERSTANDING OF OUR ROLE TONIGHT IS TO REVIEW THE LIST IF, TO SEE IF WE AGREE THAT THE LIST OF PROJECTS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS OF THE MASTER PLAN.
IF WE FIND SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T BELIEVE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE MASTER PLAN, THEN IT'S OUR OBLIGATION TO REMOVE IT.
UM, OR BUT I OR PUT IN YOUR RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU, YOU THINK THIS SHOULD BE REMOVED, CORRECT? YES.
SO, UH, IF, BUT I, I DON'T BELIEVE IN MY OPINION THAT IT'S OUR NECESSARY PREROGATIVE TO SAY, WELL, WE OUGHT TO ALSO DO X THAT, THAT WE, OUR JOB IS TO EVALUATE CONSISTENCY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS TRYING TO CLARIFY.
HER TERMINOLOGY OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS AS IT RELATED TO THE LIST.
I DIDN'T FIND THAT LANGUAGE TO MATCH WITH WHAT YOU WERE SAYING.
THAT WAS WHERE I WAS TRYING TO CLARIFY, TO UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR ROLE IS, ESPECIALLY WITH NEW COMMISSIONERS ON HERE SINCE THE LAST TIME WE'VE DONE THIS.
UH, IF THE LANGUAGE IS SUCH THAT IT'S OUR RECOMMENDATION VERSUS OUR POSITION OF THE CONFORMITY, THERE'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT ROLES.
WHAT I REMEMBER OF THE MEMO GOING OUT ALL THE, THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, OKAY, Y'ALL, Y'ALL'S MAIN JOB AT THE CITY OF PLANO IS TO MAKE SURE IT CONFORMS. IF FOR SOME REASON THERE IS SOME PROJECT YOU WANNA ADD, YOU CAN INCLUDE IT ON YOUR RECOMMENDATION.
BUT THE MAIN JOB IS TO MAKE SURE IT MATCHES UP WITH THE ALL WHAT Y'ALL DO.
SO WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE BEING ASKED TONIGHT, JUST TO BE CLEAR, I HAVE, I ACTUALLY HAVE A LETTER THAT I'M BEING ASKED TO SIGN AT THE END OF THE, READ THE, THERE YOU GO.
THE LETTER THAT'RE SUPPOSED, THE LETTER THAT WE WILL HOPEFULLY SEND TONIGHT TO MR. ISRAELSON IS THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HAS REVIEWED THE 25 BOND REFERENDUM ITEMS AND FOUND THE PROJECTS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS, POLICIES, AND ACTIONS FOR FACILITY AND INFRASTRUCTURE MANAGEMENT.
NOT WHETHER WE APPROVE OF THEM OR NOT.
NOT WHETHER WE LIKE OR DON'T LIKE ANY PARTICULAR PROJECT.
OUR JOB IS TO EVALUATE IT CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS, POLICIES AND ACTIONS FOR FACILITY AND INFRASTRUCTURE MANAGEMENT.
AS IT RELATES TO WHAT'S BEING PRESENTED, NOT WHAT ULTIMATELY MAY END UP HAPPENING.
THE LIST THAT'S IN FRONT OF US TONIGHT.
WHETHER THEY CHOOSE TO EDIT THAT IS UP TO THE COUNCIL.
AND I'LL REMIND THE COMMISSION THAT THIS IS THE FIRST STEP.
THE BOND GETS APPROVED, THEY COME BACK, THEY END UP GETTING, PUTTING IN THE CIP CITY CIP BUDGET EVERY YEAR.
THAT CIP COMES BACK TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION EVERY SUMMER FOR RECOMMENDATION WITH MORE SPECIFIC DOLLARS AND PROJECTS.
THESE ARE MORE BROAD BRUSH ITEMS. SO, SO I, I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE WITH JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.
GOT ALL THE LANGUAGE CORRECT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE DOING.
COMMISSIONER BRUNO, DID YOU HAVE A QUICK COMMENT? OH, KAREN, COME BACK.
THERE'S ANOTHER QUESTION FOR YOU.
WE'LL GET TO THE PRESENTATIONS IN A SECOND.
LET'S MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH TONIGHT.
UH, DO YOU THINK THAT THERE IS ANY REALISTIC CHANCE THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, DUE TO ACTION BY THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE OR ONE OF THE OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT THIS LIST COULD CHANGE BEFORE IT GOES TO THE COUNCIL? WILL IT CHANGE BEFORE IT GOES TO COUNCIL? NO.
THE, THE LIST I HAVE IN MY HAND YEAH.
THAT Y'ALL HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED, IS THE LIST THAT WILL SHOW UP ON THE CITY COUNCIL'S
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DESK.ALONG WITH THAT LIST IS Y'ALL'S LETTER, THE CULTURAL ARTS LETTER, THE PARK PLANNING BOARD'S LETTER, THE HISTORIC COMMISSION'S LETTER.
THEY'LL REVIEW THE LETTERS THAT YOU SUBMIT THEM AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS A CITY COUNCIL, EVERYTHING ELSE.
I JUST, JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LIST THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT WILL BE THE SAME LIST THAT THE COUNCIL WILL ALSO SEE.
COMMISSIONER BRONSKI, ONE MORE THING REAL QUICK.
UH, I WANNA GO BACK TO HER, YOUR COMMENT ABOUT IF WE DECIDED WE WANTED TO ADD SOMETHING, THEN WHAT HE JUST SAID, HIS QUESTION THEN, SO THERE IS A, IS IS THERE A POSSIBILITY FROM SOME OTHER BOARD MAKING A RECOMMENDATION THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THIS LIST, THAT THERE COULD BE SOMETHING ENDING UP ON COUNCIL DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'RE SEEING? 'CAUSE YOUR TERM EARLIER WAS THAT IF SOMEBODY ON THIS COMMISSION, THE CITY COUNCIL, IF THEY WANNA ADD SOMETHING TO THE RD EXISTING LIST, THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DO THAT IN JANUARY.
SO MY QUESTION WAS, YOU SAID THAT IF WE WANTED TO ADD A RECOMMENDATION AS THE COMMISSION, WE COULD DO SO AND ALL THE OTHER COMMISSIONS COULD DO THAT AS WELL.
SO THEN IT'S CONCEIVABLE THAT WHAT ENDS UP ON THEIR DESK IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TODAY? NO, BECAUSE THE, THAT SIR, THE, ONCE AGAIN, THEY'RE GONNA GET THIS LIST.
IT'S $700.7 MILLION BEHIND THE LIST ARE GONNA BE Y'ALL'S RECOMMENDATION LETTERS.
IT'S JUST A RECOMMENDATION LETTER.
DID YOU KNOW, DID Y'ALL GO THROUGH IT? DID DID IT COME UP? AND, UH, WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE CITY COUNCIL, WELL LOOK AT THOSE LETTERS.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY'RE GONNA DECIDE THE PROPOSITIONS.
IT'S ALL UP TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
MA'AM, I THINK, I THINK WE UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT THAT'S YOUR, YOUR THE QUESTION.
I, I THINK, I THINK THAT'S NOT LET'S, LET'S GET TO THE STAFF PRESENTATIONS AND THEN WE CAN ASK THEM QUESTIONS AT THE END.
I THINK, UM, WE UNDERSTAND OUR CHARGE HERE TONIGHT, WHICH IS TO SEE IF IT COMPLIES WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND, UM, SO LET'S EVALUATE IT BASED ON THAT.
COMMISSIONER TONG, DO YOU HAVE A QUICK QUESTION BEFORE WE GET TO THE STAFF PRESENTATIONS? I JUST WANNA HELP A LITTLE BIT.
I THINK THERE'S A MISUNDERSTANDING BETWEEN MR. UM, BROWN, UH, BROSKI AND, UH, UH, MRS. KAREN, THE MISUNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE LIST? IT'S A LIST.
WE CAN'T CHANGE THE LIST TONIGHT OR ANYTIME BETWEEN NOW AND JANUARY WHEN THE COUNCILS MAKES A DECISION.
HOWEVER, OUR JOB TONIGHT IS TO COME UP WITH RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THAT'S GONNA BE IN A, ON A SEPARATE LETTER.
SO WE COULD, IF YOU HAVE ITEMS YOU WANNA ADD OR WE ALL HAVE ITEMS YOU WANNA ADD OR CHANGE, I THINK WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO PUT IT IN A RECOMMENDATION LETTER AND THAT LETTER WILL GO WITH THE LIST TO THE COUNCIL.
I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA CUT OFF DEBATE AT THIS POINT AND LET'S LET THE STAFF MAKE THEIR, MAKE THEIR PRESENTATIONS AND THEN WE CAN REVISIT THIS AT THE END JUST IN THE INTEREST OF KEEPING THE, KEEPING THE MEETING MOVING.
I'M YOUR PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.
UH, I'LL STATE RIGHT OFF THE BAT THAT THIS PROGRAM, THIS PROPOSED LIST FROM PARKS AND RECREATION, WAS DEVELOPED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION PLANNING BOARD.
CHAIRMAN PAGEANT HAS SUBMITTED A SIGNED LETTER THAT THIS LIST OF PARK PROJECTS HAS BEEN REVIEWED AND IS SUPPORTED BY THE PARKS AND RECREATION PLANNING BOARD.
THE, UH, THE PROGRAM CONSISTS OF THE, UH, FIVE CATEGORIES THAT WERE ON THAT PREVIOUS SLIDE.
THIS IS THE VERSION THAT WE'VE BEEN USING INTERNALLY AND WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION PLANNING BOARD AND THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
IT'S THE EXACT SAME LIST AS THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, BUT JUST HAS A LITTLE MORE DETAIL LIKE THE PROPOSED, UH, OR ANTICIPATED OPERATION COSTS.
BUT AGAIN, THIS IS THE, THE LIST FOR PARKS AND RECREATION.
AND, UH, IT HAS THESE FIVE CATEGORIES.
I'LL GO OVER EACH CATEGORY WITH YOU DURING THIS PRESENTATION.
SO CATEGORY NUMBER ONE IS HALL PARK.
THIS IS LOCATED AT THE HARD CORNER OF ALMA AND PARK, PARK BOULEVARD.
UH, WE PROPOSE THE $10 MILLION TO DEVELOP THE FIRST PHASE OF THIS PARKLAND, WHICH WILL INCLUDE, UH, IMPROVEMENTS
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LIKE, UH, PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT, PICNIC AREAS, AN IMPROVED HIKE AND BIKE, UH, CEMENT OR CONCRETE TRAIL AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE PARK.UH, THE MAJORITY WILL BE DEVELOPED AS A PARK, BUT I WANTED TO SHOW THIS SLIDE THAT, UH, WE HAVE ALSO BEEN UTILIZING BECAUSE IT SHOWS A PORTION OF THE PARK THAT WILL BE USED FOR MUCH NEEDED PUBLIC SAFETY INFRASTRUCTURE AND FACILITIES FOR POLICE AND FIRE.
BUT AGAIN, THE MAJORITY OF THE PARK OR THE PROPERTY WILL BE DEVELOPED AS INTENDED.
AND THAT FIRST 10 MILLION THAT IS PART OF OUR PARK DEVELOPMENT OR, UH, 25 BOND PROGRAM WOULD BE FOR THE FIRST PHASE OF DEVELOPMENT OF HALL PARK.
UH, LAND ACQUISITION IS THE NEXT CATEGORY.
$20 MILLION IDENTIFIED FOR LAND ACQUISITION.
15 OF THE 20 IS IDENTIFIED FOR THE PARKLAND IN THE LEVO FARM DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS IDENTIFIED HERE, UH, JUST EAST OF HIGHWAY 75.
THIS IS THE WAY IT IS DISPLAYED ON OUR PARK MASTER PLAN.
IT CLEARLY SHOWS IN THE LIGHT GREEN OF SHAWNEE PARK, KIND OF AN ADDITIONAL CAP, IF YOU WILL, OF PARKLAND.
THAT IS MORE OR LESS 24 ACRES AS SHOWN ON THE PARK MASTER PLAN.
BUT AS WE HAVE BEEN WORKING THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN OF THE LEVON FARM IN CONJUNCTION AND IN SUPPORT OF THE OAK POINT, THE ENVISION OAK POINT PLAN, WHAT WE'VE UH, BEEN SEEING IS THAT THE PROPOSED 24 ACRES, THEY'RE SHOWN IN GREEN.
THE BRIGHTER GREEN IS ACTUALLY BEING DISSEMINATED THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT TO BETTER MEET THE NEEDS OF THE FUTURE.
4,000 PLUS RESIDENTS THAT WILL SOMEDAY CALL LEVON FARM HOME.
SO WE'RE STILL, UH, MEETING THAT THE SPIRIT OF THE PARK MASTER PLAN WITH THE 25 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES, BUT WE'RE DISPERSING THEM IN A WAY THAT WILL BETTER BENEFIT THE PUBLIC WHEN THEY EVENTUALLY LIVE IN THOSE HOMES.
UH, ANOTHER CATEGORY IS THE, OH, EXCUSE ME, LET ME GO BACK ONE MORE THING.
WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THE COST OR THE ESTIMATES THROUGH APPRAISALS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE FOR THESE PARCELS AS IDENTIFIED ON THIS SLIDE RIGHT HERE.
AND IT'S MORE OR LESS ROUGHLY 15 MILLION.
SO WE FEEL PRETTY COMFORTABLE THAT THAT 15 MILLION FOR LEVON FARMS IS, IS RIGHT ON THE MONEY.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS, UH, CONFORMS WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER PLAN.
THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE ENVISION OAK POINT PLAN.
THE REMAINING 5 MILLION FOR PARK ACQUISITION IS FOR OTHER, UH, PARCELS THAT WILL BECOME AVAILABLE BETWEEN 2025 AND 2029 THAT HELP BUILD OUT THE PARKS MASTER PLAN AS IT IS CURRENTLY CONSTITUTED.
UH, THE NEXT CATEGORY IS COMMUNITY PARK RENOVATIONS, 11,595,000.
WE ARE PUSHING ALL OF OUR CHIPS INTO THE CENTER OF THE TABLE FOR PARK COMMUNITY PARK RENOVATION FOR SHELL PARK.
IT'S THE LARGEST PROGRAMMABLE SPORTS SPECIFIC PARK EAST OF HIGHWAY 75.
IT'S IN NEED OF A WHOLESALE RENOVATION.
HERE ARE SOME OF THE EXISTING AMENITIES OR IMPROVEMENTS ON SITE RIGHT NOW, INCLUDING THE, UH, FLYING V PICNIC PAVILION AND THE VERY ROBUST YET, UH, UH, INSUFFICIENT RESTROOMS THERE AT SHELL PARK.
SO THOSE TWO, UH, AMENITIES OR IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE REPLACED AS WELL AS THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT AS PART OF THIS WHOLESALE RENOVATION OF SHELL PARK.
THE NEXT CATEGORY IS PARK IMPROVEMENTS.
THIS IS A $5 MILLION, UH, THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED FOR THIS PURPOSE.
THIS ALLOWS THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT TO MAKE ANY, UH, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITIZENS OF PLANO OR PARK STAFF DURING THAT FOUR YEAR WINDOW FROM 2025 TO 2029.
AND THE LAST CATEGORY FOR THE PARKS AND RECREATION PROPOSED BOND PROGRAM IS RECREATIONAL TRAILS 5 MILLION.
THIS WOULD ALLOW US, UH, TO CONTINUE TO BUILD OUT THE PARKS AND RECREATION TRAIL SYSTEM, WHICH CURRENTLY CONSISTS OF OVER A HUNDRED MILES OF TRAIL.
IT IS ONE OF THE AMENITIES THAT WE CONSISTENTLY GET VERY POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY AS IT IS WIDELY USED AND PROVIDES
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A VERY BROAD BENEFIT.I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN WORKED ON WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION PLANNING BOARD.
THEY'VE SIGNED THEIR LETTER SUGGESTING THAT THEY SUPPORT THIS PROPOSED PROGRAM, AND THIS ALLOWS THE CITY'S DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND RECREATION TO FUND CAPITAL PROJECTS FOR THAT FOUR YEAR WINDOW FROM TWO 2025 TO 2029.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, CHAIR.
QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PARKS PLAN? COMMISSIONER LEY, UH, QUICK ACRONYM.
CHECK O AND M IS OPERATING AND MANAGEMENT.
WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? O AND M ON THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE.
UM, SECONDLY, I'M GONNA GUESS A LOT OF THIS IMPROVEMENTS AROUND THE PARKLAND WILL TIE INTO, AND MAYBE I, I'M FORECASTING HERE, THE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT AND CONNECTING PARKWAYS AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
WALKABILITY IS ALL A PART OF THIS.
SO AS FAR AS THE LEVON FARM, IF THAT'S YOUR SPECIFIC QUESTION, THAT DEVELOPMENT CERTAINLY, UH, HAS THE ENVISION OAK POINT STAMP, WHICH IS, UH, A WALKABLE DEVELOPMENT IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CITYWIDE PROGRAM.
SO OUR HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL IS PART OF THE CITY'S, UH, TRAIL SYSTEM AND BICYCLE TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
SO ANY TRAIL DEVELOPMENT OR NEW TRAIL CONSTRUCTION WOULD BE CONFORMING WITH THAT EXISTING PLAN.
SO, UH, SPECIFICALLY WHEN IT CAME TO THE, THE LEVON FARMS PIECE COMPONENT, UH, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT A, A LARGE, UH, SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT.
IS THAT WHAT YOU, WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING IN THERE? IS THAT WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IS, WELL, SO THE, THE, I'M SURE THAT OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT COULD PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION, BUT THERE IS A DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT WE ARE CONTINUING TO WORK WITH OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND THE LANDOWNER AND THE DEVELOPER ON THAT.
IT'S A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, UH, PARK LAND AND TRAILS IS A BIG COMPONENT OF THAT.
SO AS A FORMAL, AS A DEVELOPER, CIVIL ENGINEER, UH, I ALSO FOUND THAT MANY TIMES THE CITIES WOULD REQUIRE THE, THE DEVELOPER TO DEVELOP THIS LAND AND TO, TO PROVIDE THAT LAND AT NO COST TO THE CITY, UH, MANY TIMES.
SO, UH, I'M JUST TRYING TO WRAP MY MIND AROUND, YOU KNOW, THE 15 20 MILLION FOR LAND THAT A DEVELOPER MAY BE PUTTING TOGETHER.
WELL, IT'S OUR HISTORY THAT WE PAY MARKET VALUE FOR PARKLAND.
BECAUSE I, I, I KNOW THAT DEVELOPMENTS I'VE DONE IN THE PAST, IT, IT WAS NOT THAT THAT WAS NOT THE CASE.
THAT THERE, WE HAD TO PUT A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE AS, AS, AS PARKLAND AND SOMETIMES GOT A CREDIT, YOU KNOW, LIKE A, A TREE MITIGATION CREDIT OR DIFFERENT THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN THAT, THAT IT WAS STILL DONATED.
AND, AND SO I WAS JUST CHECKING IN ON THAT.
SO, MR. SMITH, UH, FEEL FREE TO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THERE IS A PARK FEE THAT'S STILL CHARGED.
THAT FEE IS USED TO PURCHASE PARK LAND FOR THAT VERY PURPOSE.
SO THERE IS AN ASSESSMENT MADE BASED ON, UH, MULTIFAMILY OR SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
THERE IS A PARK FEE ASSESSMENT THAT'S MADE.
AND THAT CAN BE USED IN VERY, UH, SPECIFIC WAYS.
ACQUISITION IS ONE OF THEM, BUT STILL THE CITY WOULD PAY BASED ON THOSE APPRAISALS, THE FAIR MARKET VALUE OF THAT PARK LAND.
COMMISSIONER BRONSKI, UH, ONE QUICK QUESTION.
UH, YOU HAVE THE JC PENNEY, UH, ACQUISITION CROSSED OFF.
I UNDERSTAND HOW THAT'S WORKED OUT.
AND MY QUESTION IS, AS THAT, UH, PROJECT IS BEING DEVELOPED, UH, ARE WE NOT CONSIDERING THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT, UH, PARK AS WELL? NOT AT THIS TIME.
IT NOT GONNA BE PART OF THIS 2025 PROGRAM.
SO, UH, THAT'S A FAIR QUESTION, AND THAT'S THE EXACT ANSWER IS NOT IN THIS ROUND FOR THE 2025 PROGRAM, SO THAT THAT PARTICULAR PARCEL WILL SIT UNCHANGED BASICALLY UNTIL 2029.
IT WOULD NOT BE DEVELOPED UNTIL THERE IS FUNDING AVAILABLE AND, YOU KNOW, IN A DEFERENCE TO A BIG PUBLIC SAFETY NEED, UH, PARKS AND RECREATION, UH, HISTORICALLY.
SO, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE BOND PROGRAMS FROM PARKS AND RECREATION THERE, UH, 70, 80, $90 MILLION, UH, EACH FOUR, UH, EVERY FOUR YEARS THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF SOME OTHER BIGGER NEEDS THAT THE CITY HAS, WE'RE HAPPY TO DO OUR PART.
AND THAT 51.5 MILLION WE THINK IS AN ADEQUATE NUMBER.
SO I REALLY, I REALLY APPRECIATE, UH, ALL THAT YOU DO AS WELL AS, UH, THE STAFF AND, UM, THE CITIZENS SERVING ON THAT COMMITTEE AND UH, I FEEL GOOD ABOUT ALL THE THINGS.
I JUST, I SAW THE JC PENNY CROSSED OFF AND I, IT JUST BROUGHT TO MY MIND, YEAH, WE DID GET THAT, BUT JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WHAT WAS GOING ON AND WE LEFT IT ON THERE INTENTIONALLY SO THAT WE WOULD KEEP THAT AS A PLACEHOLDER
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AND REMEMBER WHAT HAD HAPPENED.'CAUSE THAT WAS A BIG DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY PUT IN THERE FOR ACQUISITION.
SO WE'RE REALLY FORTUNATE THAT THE THINGS PLAYED OUT THE WAY THEY DID.
AND A VERY GENEROUS DONATION TO COMMERCE.
AND, UH, UH, EARLIER THE, UH, UM, OUR NEXT DOOR COMMISSIONER
'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY, UM, DECISIONS MAKING HERE
I JUST WONDER WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE HOMES DEVELOPED IN THE, UH, PARK LAND OWNED BY THE CITY, UH, IN THE LAVAN FARM COMMUNITY.
SO IF WE OWN THE PARK, THE CITY OWNS THE LAND, THE PARK, AND THERE'S A, A SMALL PORTION OF IT WILL BE DEVELOPING INTO SINGLE FAMILIES OR, UH, HOUSES, WHATEVER.
THEN YOU SELL THEM TO INDIVIDUAL OWNERS AND THEY WILL BE LIVING ON CITY'S PARK PROPERTY.
SO THE, ON THE SCREEN, THE PARKLAND IS THE YELLOW HATCHED.
SO THE, UH, I'LL EXPLAIN THIS SLIDE ONE MORE TIME.
THE LIGHT PALE GREEN IS THE EXISTING SHAWNEE PARK AS IT EXISTS TODAY.
THE BRIGHT GREEN THAT SAYS 24.75 WAS WHAT WE PROPOSED ORIGINALLY, AND IT SHOWS IN THE PARK MASTER PLAN AS KIND OF AN ADDITIONAL ACREAGE ON TOP.
THE YELLOW HASHED SHOWS HOW THE PARKLAND DISBURSEMENT WILL HAPPEN.
SO THERE WILL BE NO HOMES BUILT ON ANY OF THOSE AREAS THAT ARE MARKED IN YELLOW.
THAT WILL BE PARK PROPERTY, THE HOMES AND OTHER DEVELOPMENT WILL GO OUTSIDE OF THE YELLOW.
SO THIS WHOLE PROJECT IS JUST FOCUSING ON THOSE YELLOW PATCHES? YES.
THE PARK LAND ACQUISITIONS WILL ONLY BE THE YELLOW AS SHOWN ON THAT SLIDE.
THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE CHANCE TO CLARIFY THAT FOR YOU.
THE, UM, WE JUST WENT THROUGH A VISIONING EXERCISE ON HAGGARD PARK.
UM, I KNOW IT'S NOT A VERY BIG PROJECT, BUT IS THAT IN HERE SOMEWHERE? OR IS THAT BEING POSTPONED FOR ANOTHER? WELL, THAT'S GONNA PROBABLY BE A 2029 FOR THE SAME REASONS THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER BRONSKI THAT ANSWER THAT I GAVE HIM IN DEREFERENCE TO OTHER MAJOR EXPENDITURES.
APPRECIATE YOU CLARIFYING THAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT PARKS? NUMBER ONE? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WHO'S UP NEXT? BECAUSE I WENT BACKWARDS.
OH, TOO MANY GOOD EVENING FOLKS.
POLKS A FACILITIES DIVISION MANAGER.
I'LL BE INTRODUCING CHIEF DRAIN, WHO WILL INTRODUCE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNICATIONS, CARR, WHO WILL REINTRODUCE CHIEF DRAIN, THEN CHIEF, BIGGER STAFF.
THEN ABBY OWENS FROM PUBLIC WORKS BACK TO ME FOR FACILITIES.
AND THEN I'LL FINALLY HAND OFF TO, UM, LIBBY FROM LIBRARIES.
THE FACILITIES PACKAGE IS 306 MILLION.
THAT'S WHY MY POOR FRIEND RON SEEMS TO, UM, HE, HE GAVE A LOT SO WE COULD DO THAT.
PUBLIC WORKS, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY IS A BIG PORTION OF IT.
243 MILLION OF THAT 155 IS A NEW POLICE HQ IN 9 1 1 CENTER.
A NEW FIRE STATION 14 IS 21, ALMOST 22 MILLION.
WE ARE GOING TO GET MORE FUNDS TO COMPILE WITH ORIGINAL FUNDS FOR STATION EIGHT TO GIVE IT A FULL REMODEL, IF NOT A REBUILD.
WE'RE GOING TO BUY LAND FOR STATION THREE AND PAY FOR THE DESIGN.
AND WE ARE GOING TO BUILD A NEW POLICE TRAINING CENTER IN REPLACING THE OLD TRAINING CENTER.
AND WE'LL EXPLAIN MORE WHEN WE GET TO THAT.
AND THEN PHASE ONE FOR REDOING OUR PUBLIC WORKS CAMPUS OVER AT PARKWAY OPERATIONS ON THE WEST SIDE WILL BE TO BUILD A NEW FLEET BUILDING.
AND THEN, UM, A PROJECT NEAR DEAR TO MY HEART IS A NEW FACILITIES MAINTENANCE BUILDING, WHICH WE WILL BUY THE LAND AND, AND PAY FOR THE DESIGN WITH THIS BOND.
AND THEN FINALLY, WE HAVE, UM, RENOVATIONS AND STUDY POD FURNITURE PURCHASES FOR CHENAL, FIN PAR, AND HAGGARD LIBRARY.
AND WITH THAT, I WILL HAND OFF TO CHIEF DRAIN.
HELLO, MR. CHAIRMAN, COMMISSIONERS.
UM, I WILL, UH, FIRST TALK ABOUT THE NEW POLICE HEADQUARTERS.
SO OUR, OUR CURRENT PD BUILDING WAS FIRST BUILT IN 1973, SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 50 YEARS OLD.
THERE HAVE BEEN SOME, UH, RENOVATIONS THAT ADDED ADDITIONAL SPACE, UH, OVER THE YEARS, UM, UH, UH, TO THAT FACILITY.
AND, AND THE MOST RECENT ADDITION TO IT WAS IN 2014 WAS PROPERTY AND EVIDENCE EXPANSION, BUT THAT DIDN'T INCLUDE ANY ADDITIONAL OFFICE SPACE.
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OKAY, SO WHERE THE NEW, UH, PROPOSED LOCATION, UH, THE, THE LOCATION FOR THE NEW, UM, POLICE, UH, STATION IS IN THAT HALL TRACK THAT DR. SMITH JUST TALKED ABOUT.UH, ABOUT 9.1 OR 9.2 ACRES OF THAT HALL TRACK IS GONNA BE DEDICATED TO THE POLICE FACILITY.
THE PART IN RED IS FOR THE NEW FIRE STATION AND THE FIRE CHIEF WILL BE UP IN A FEW MINUTES TO TALK ABOUT THAT PORTION OF IT.
SO, UH, WE HAVE POLICE FACILITIES THAT ARE SCATTERED ACROSS THE CITY IN, IN VARIOUS PLACES.
SO BY BUILDING THIS NEW FACILITY, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WILL NOT BE REPLACED WILL BE THE JAIL, WHICH IS, UH, CURRENTLY CO-LOCATED WITH, UH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE MUNICIPAL COURT.
SO THOSE WILL REMAIN WHERE THEY ARE RIGHT THERE AT 15TH AND AGE.
UH, THE JOINT USE, UH, FACILITY, WHICH IS CO-LOCATED WITH DAVIS LIBRARY ON INDEPENDENCE WILL ALSO, UH, CONTINUE TO BE USED.
UH, WE HAVE, UH, TWO STOREFRONT LOCATIONS FOR WHAT WE CALL NPOS ARE NEIGHBORHOOD POLICE OFFICERS THAT ARE IN WEST PLANO.
SO ONE IS IN SHOPS OF LEGACY, THE OTHER ONE IS IN LEGACY WEST.
SEVEN EIGHT OFFICERS WORK OUT OF THOSE FACILITIES.
UH, WE WANT TO KEEP THOSE FACILITIES THERE.
UH, PEOPLE CAN WALK UP AND DO REPORTS, UH, AND, UH, SO WE'RE GONNA KEEP THOSE IN PLACE.
UH, THE RUSSIAN POLICE SUBSTATION, WHICH JUST OPENED IN 2010.
2020, IT SAID ROBINSON AND MCDERMOTT.
IT ALSO WILL CONTINUE TO BE AN OPERATION.
AND THE EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTER, OF COURSE, IS GONNA STAY IN PLACE.
SO WHAT WE WILL REPLACE IS OUR CURRENT HEADQUARTERS BUILDING, AS I SAID, UH, ALTHOUGH THE JAIL AND THE MUNICIPAL COURT WILL REMAIN IN PLACE, WE HAVE A, A, ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD POLICE OFFICER FACILITY, UH, AT, UM, UH, AVENUE K AND PARKER.
UH, IT'S UP ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF THAT STRIP MALL THERE, THERE'S REALLY NO OPERATIONAL REASON FOR THAT, UH, FACILITY TO BE THERE.
THEY DON'T, WE DON'T TAKE REPORTS THERE OR ANYTHING.
THOSE OFFICERS ARE THERE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY SPACE FOR THEM IN THE CURRENT, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT.
UH, WE'VE GOT SOME, UH, WE'VE GOT SOME LEASE SPACE ALSO ACROSS THE CITY THAT WE'LL BE GIVING UP AS WELL.
UH, AND, UM, UH, AND, AND WE'VE GOT SOME SPACE AT, AT THE CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY CENTER AT, UH, PARK IN LOS RIOS.
WE'VE GOT TWO OF OUR INVESTIGATIVE UNITS THERE, OUR SPECIAL VICTIMS UNIT AND OUR, UH, FAMILY VIOLENCE UNIT WORK OUTTA THAT FACILITY.
AND THEY WILL ALSO BE COMING BACK TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, NOT SHOWN UP.
THERE IS ALSO A NARCOTICS UNIT, IS ALSO IN AN OFFSITE FACILITY.
AND WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO BRING THEM BACK TO THE, UH, HEADQUARTERS BUILDING.
SO IN, UM, 1973, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS STAFFED WITH 49, UH, EMPLOYEES, EIGHTY ONE A HUNDRED FORTY ONE 2003, 4 75.
AND WE'RE CURRENTLY AT, UH, SIX 18 TODAY.
THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE 50 OR SO, UH, SEASONAL CROSSING GUARDS THAT WE ALSO HAVE, UH, OUT WORKING FOR THE PD.
UH, AND SO YOU CAN SEE THE VARIOUS SPACE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAD OVER THE YEARS.
UH, UM, AND WE JUST ARE FLAT OUTTA SPACE.
AND SO WE NEED, WE NEED ADDITIONAL SPACE.
AND OUR BUILDING CANNOT BE ADDED TO ANYMORE.
IT'S BEEN ADDED TO SEVERAL TIMES.
WE CAN'T GO OUT AND, UH, SO WE'RE JUST GONNA HAVE TO HAVE A, A, A, A NEW FACILITY, UM, WITH THE VOTER'S APPROVAL, OF COURSE, AND THE COUNCILS.
SO ONCE WE, UH, SO RIGHT NOW, CURRENTLY AT OUR NEW HEADQUARTERS, WE'VE GOT ABOUT 343 FOLKS WORKING OUT OF THERE.
I MENTIONED THE PLACES WHERE WE'VE GOT DIFFERENT UNITS SCATTERED.
UH, THAT WOULD BRING IN ABOUT ANOTHER 40 OR 45 BACK TO THE HEADQUARTERS.
UH, WE WOULD ALSO BE ADDING 95 FOLKS FROM PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNICATION.
MS. CARL WILL BE UP TO TALK ABOUT THAT IN A MINUTE.
UH, SO ONCE, UH, IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE, WE'D HAVE ABOUT A A A TOTAL OF 474, UH, WARM BODIES IN THE NEW POLICE HEADQUARTERS.
UH, AS I SAID, WE'VE GOT TOO MANY LOCATIONS SPREAD ACROSS THE CITY.
WE HAVE SOME SUPERVISORS WHO WORK ON ONE END OF THE BUILDING, BUT THE UNITS THEY SUPERVISE ON OTHER ENDS OF THE BUILDING.
UH, AND, UH, SO WE WANT TO, WE WANT TO, UM, TO, TO BRING THEM TOGETHER.
SO JUST FOR EFFICIENCY REASONS, UH, WE'VE GOT EMERGENCY FLEET VEHICLES THAT ARE ALSO IN VARIOUS LOCATIONS ACROSS THE CITY.
SOME OF 'EM ARE LOCATED OUT AT OUR TRAINING FACILITY, UH, OVER ON 14TH, ON THE EAST END OF 14TH STREET.
SOME ARE AT THE EOC, SOME ARE AT THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS.
WE ALSO WANNA BRING ALL THOSE, UH, UNDER ONE ROOF AND WE WANNA PUT THEM INSIDE.
UH, THOSE ARE VERY EXPENSIVE VEHICLES.
WE JUST PURCHASED A 2.1 OR JUST RECEIVED A $2.1 MILLION, UH, MOBILE COMMAND POST, UH, THAT IS OUTSIDE.
IT IS COVERED, BUT IT IS OUTSIDE.
AND WE WOULD LIKE TO BRING THAT INSIDE.
WE ARE PAYING, YOU KNOW, ABOUT $85,000 IN LEASE SPACE, UH, UH, UH, EVERY YEAR.
AND, UH, SO THIS WOULD ALLOW US TO CONSOLIDATE BOTH OUR PEOPLE AND OUR EQUIPMENT, UH, BY, UM, BUILDING THIS NEW HEADQUARTERS BUILDING.
UH, AGAIN, UH, SOME OF THE BENEFITS BRING
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PERSONNEL INTO THE SAME BUILDING.AS I SAID, UH, UH, ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF PERSONNEL BEING SEPARATED FROM THEIR WORK GROUPS, INCREASE OUR EFFICIENCY AND, UM, UH, NEW BUILD IS MORE ECONOMICAL THAN TRYING TO WORK ON OUR CURRENT LOCATION, WHICH WE REALLY CAN'T DO.
WE CAN'T REALLY, CAN'T ADD MUCH, UH, MORE TO IT.
WE JUST FINISHED THE RENOVATION ON IT TO BETTER UTILIZE THE SPACE WE HAD, BUT IT DID NOT ADD ANY ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE TO THE HEADQUARTERS BUILDING.
OKAY, UH, MS. CARR, WE'LL BE UP TO TALK ABOUT THE 9 1 1, UH, DISPATCH OPERATION.
I'M THE DIRECTOR OF 9 1 1 PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNICATIONS.
UH, WE'RE A SEPARATE DEPARTMENT WITHIN THE CITY, BUT WE PROVIDE 9 1 1 SERVICES AND POLICE AND FIRE DISPATCH SERVICES FOR POLICE, THE POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENT, AS WELL AS FIRE PLANO.
FIRE RESCUE EMS TODAY, WE'RE CURRENTLY LOCATED IN THE BASEMENT HERE OF CITY HALL, UH, JUST DOWN THE RAMP.
YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH OUR LOCATION DOWN HERE.
SO WE'RE LOOKING TO MOVE INTO THE NEW POLICE HEADQUARTER BUILDING.
UH, SEVERAL REASONS, UM, FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, IS ADDITIONAL SECURE FACILITY.
UM, OUR, MY FOLKS TAKE A LOT OF, UH, POLICE HIGH PRIORITY CALLS.
AND THEN, UM, THEY'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN, UM, RECEIVING SOME THREATS FROM CALLERS.
WHEN CALLERS DON'T LIKE THE WAY THE CALL WAS HANDLED OR THE WAY THINGS WENT, UH, THEY WEAR A UNIFORM WHEN THEY'RE LEAVING, AND SO IT MAKES THEM A LITTLE BIT NERVOUS IN A NON-SECURE FACILITY.
ADDITIONALLY, I HAVE, UH, SHIFT WORKERS.
THEY WORK 12 HOUR SHIFTS, SEVEN A TO 7:00 PM AND SEVEN P TO SEVEN A AS WELL AS I HAVE A CALL TAKER SHIFT FROM 11 A TO 11:00 PM AND THEIR OVERTIME HOURS ARE IN FOUR HOUR BLOCKS.
SO I HAVE SOME PEOPLE COMING AND GOING AT INDIVIDUALS COMING IN AT 11:00 PM AT 3:00 AM WALKING IN BY THEMSELVES IN AN UNSECURE PARKING LOT.
UM, THERE'VE BEEN, UH, HOMELESS FOLKS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IT MAKES MY TEAM A LITTLE BIT NERVOUS, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE WEARING A UNIFORM AND THEY'RE WALKING IN.
UM, OUTSIDE OF THAT, UM, UH, LAST YEAR, THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL HAD TO EVACUATE FROM THIS BUILDING, UM, DUE TO A SITUATION IN ONE OF THEIR MEETINGS, AND MY FOLKS HAD TO EVACUATE AS WELL.
SO WE HAVE A LOT OF BACKUPS AND REDUNDANCIES IN PLACE, BUT WHEN WE'RE LEAVING OUR PRIMARY FACILITY AND MOVING TO OUR ALTERNATE SITE, RICHARDSON POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS TO ANSWER THE PHONE CALLS FOR US, AND THEN THEY RELAY THOSE TO US ON A PORTABLE RADIO, WHICH CREATES A LITTLE, SORRY, A LITTLE BIT OF A DELAY IN GETTING THAT OUT.
SO IT'S ONLY, THAT'S ONLY HAPPENED ONCE, BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST SOMETHING WE, WE, WE LIKE TO PLAN AND NOT PREPARE FOR, YOU KNOW, NOT HAVE THOSE THINGS HAPPEN.
UM, A COUPLE OF THINGS, YOU KNOW, I'M SORRY, OUR SLIDE GOT A LITTLE BIT CONVOLUTED.
WE HAD TO MOVE EVERYTHING UP TO CAP CAPTURE THE CAPTIONING, BUT, UM, IF WE MOVE INTO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BUILDING, THAT ALLOWS US FOR SOME BETTER OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY AND COLLABORATION WITH THEM DURING HIGH RISK EVENTS.
UM, AND WITH THE REALTIME CRIME CENTER, WE'RE ANSWERING THE LIVE CALLS TO REALTIME CRIME CENTERS, PROVIDING THE INTELLIGENCE.
SO WE HA HAVE CLOSE WORKING RELATIONSHIPS WITH THEM AS WELL.
AND THEN, UM, FINALLY ENOUGH, CAN'T BE SAID ABOUT NATURAL LIGHT.
WE'RE IN THE BASEMENT AND THERE'S NO WINDOWS.
UH, WE HAVE A LOT OF CALLERS THAT ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, WANNA TALK ABOUT THE WEATHER AND WHAT'S COMING IN.
AND, UH, WE CAN'T REALLY TALK ABOUT THAT WITH THEM BECAUSE WE HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING.
WE HAVE NO WINDOWS, AND MY FOLKS CAN'T RUN UP THE STAIRS AND CHECK OUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE WEATHER OUTSIDE.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE HAVE A, I, IT'S HARD TO SEE ON THIS SLIDE, BUT THERE EIGHT MONITORS PER WORKSTATION.
WE'RE HEAVY INDIVIDUAL USER, PC AND EQUIPMENT.
AND SO, UM, I HAVE A LOT OF MIGRAINE SUFFERERS, AND THAT FLUORESCENT LIGHT WITH THE MI WITH THE, ALL OF THOSE MONITORS CAN CREATE SOME LEAVE AND ISSUES WITH MY FOLKS.
SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOME NATURAL LIGHT TO MAKE SURE WE CAN GET OUR PEOPLE TO WORK AND THEN INCREASE THAT SEROTONIN SO THAT WHEN THEY'RE TAKING ALL THOSE STRESSFUL CALLS THAT THEY'RE DOING THE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALWAYS WANTING TO GIVE A HUNDRED PERCENT.
SO OUR END GOAL, YOU KNOW, IS TO ENSURE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO PROVIDE HIGH QUALITY, EXCELLENT PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES.
I HAD A QUESTION FOR CHIEF DRAIN, AND I'LL WAIT.
HE'LL BE BACK UP TO TALK ABOUT THE TRAINING CENTER
AND I'LL HAND IT BACK TO CHIEF DRAIN.
AND I DO AGREE WITH MS. MS. CARR.
OBVIOUSLY, IF, UM, THE 9 1 1 OPERATION IS WORKING WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THAT WILL BE MUCH SAFER FOR HER EMPLOYEES VERSUS GOING OUT OF THIS BUILDING.
AND THERE IS A LOT OF COLLABORATION BETWEEN HER TEAM AND SOMETHING THAT WE CALL OUR REAL TIME INFORMATION CENTER AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND SO HAVING THEM CO-LOCATED WOULD BE, UH, GOOD FOR US AS WELL.
UM, NOW I WILL TALK ABOUT THE POLICE TRAINING CENTER.
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OF THE THINGS TO KNOW ABOUT OUR TRAINING CENTER IS, UH, WE SHARE, UH, OWNERSHIP RESPONSIBILITY, UH, WITH THE TRAINING TRAINING CENTER WITH THE CITY OF RICHARDSON.IT'S A TWO THIRD, ONE THIRD, UH, RELATIONSHIP.
SO THEY, THEY, THEY, THEY, AND SO THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR, YOU KNOW, ONE THIRD OF THE O AND M COSTS, THE OPERATIONAL AND MAINTENANCE COSTS RIGHT NOW.
AND THAT THEY WOULD ALSO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ONE THIRD OF BUILDING THE NEW ACADEMY.
WE HAVE WORKED OUT AN ARRANGEMENT WHERE THEY WOULD PAY THAT OUT OVER 20 YEARS.
KAREN, UH, THE LAST MAJOR RENOVATION THAT WE DID OUT AT THE ACA, IT DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE ACADEMY.
THE FACILITY ITSELF, WE BUILT A NEW, UH, RANGE OUT THERE, AND THAT WAS A BOND, UH, PACKAGE.
AND, UH, THAT'S HOW THAT WAS HANDLED WITH THE RICHARDSON WAS TO PAY IT OUT OVER 20 YEARS.
UH, SO, UH, SO I WANTED TO GET THAT OUTTA THE WAY.
THIS FACILITY WAS BUILT IN 1990, SO IT'S OVER, OVER 30 YEARS OLD.
THE BUILDING ITSELF HAS NEVER, UH, HAS NEVER HAD A MAJOR RENOVATION, UH, DURING THAT TIME.
UH, SO OUR STAFFING HAS INCREASED, UH, QUITE A BIT.
AS YOU SAW FROM THE PREVIOUS, UH, SLIDE WHEN I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE HEADQUARTERS BUILDING.
UH, IN 2017, WE DID ADD A, A, A BASIC PEACE OFFICER COURSE, WHICH HAS PUT A BIG STRAIN, UH, ON OUR, ON OUR FACILITIES.
AND WHAT THAT IS, IT'S A, UM, IN OUR, IT'S, IT'S ABOUT A 30 WEEK, UH, LONG COURSE THAT OFFICERS HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO BECOME POLICE OFFICERS.
PRIOR TO 2017, WHAT WE DID WAS WE WOULD SEND OUR, OUR NEW HIRES OUT TO BE TRAINED AT ONE OF THE COLLEGES OR THE COG.
UH, THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENT ALSO HAS THE TRAINING ACADEMY IS THE ONE THAT WE PRIMARILY USE, BUT WE'VE GOTTEN MUCH BETTER, UH, RESULTS WE BELIEVE BY TRAINING OUR OFFICERS INHOUSE.
SO OF COURSE WE ALSO TRAIN RICHARDSON'S OFFICERS AND WE, WE TRAIN ALAN FRISCO AND MCKINNEY'S, UH, OFFICERS AS WELL.
UH, SO, UH, BUT, BUT THE NEED AND THE BPAC, WHETHER WE'RE TRAINING FIVE OFFICERS OR 25 OFFICERS, THERE'S JUST A, A NEED FOR ADDITIONAL SPACE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE.
AND SO THE NEW BUILDING WILL ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF TRAINING IN THE FACILITY.
UH, THE DRIVING PAD WILL BE RESURFACED FOR BOTH SAFETY IN ADVANCE, UH, TRAINING.
AND, UH, A NEW BUILDING IS MORE ECONOMIC, MORE ECONOMICAL THAN TRYING TO RENOVATE THE EXISTING FACILITY.
SO WE THINK THAT WE WILL GET MORE FOR EVERY DOLLAR THAT WE HAVE IF WE JUST BUILD NEW, VERSUS TRYING TO GO IN AND, UH, RENOVATE THE CURRENT FACILITY AND THEN WORK AROUND SOME OF THE EXISTING PROBLEMS THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR 30 YEARS.
UH, SO, UH, BEFORE WE BRING UP THE FIRE CHIEF, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF ME OR MS. CARR, COMMISSIONER BRONSKI? UH, I DO, YES.
COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT YOU MENTIONED ABOUT WHAT YOU WERE KEEPING AND WHAT YOU WERE REPLACING OR REMOVING? YES, SIR.
UH, SO I, I LOVE THE IDEA OF, UH, INCREASED EFFICIENCY.
I'VE JUST GOT ONE SMALL CONCERN, AND IT WAS ABOUT ITEM SEVEN, UH, AND THE OFFICERS THAT ARE ALREADY THERE WORKING AT THE ADVOCACY CENTER.
AND, UH, I WAS A CHAIRMAN OF THE COLLIN COUNTY CPS BOARD FOR A WHILE MM-HMM
AND I KNOW THAT, UH, HAVING THOSE OFFICERS THERE WORKING WITH THE PEOPLE IN CPS WERE VERY CRITICAL IN MAKING A LOT OF, UH, CHILD SAFETY ISSUES BE ADDRESSED.
AND SO WHAT WAS THE PROCESS TO DECIDE THAT WE WERE NO LONGER GOING TO HAVE THOSE OFFICERS THERE AND RELOCATE THEM, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO AN EFFICIENCY, UH, OR AN EFFECTIVENESS ON THAT.
AND AND WHEN YOU WERE ON THE CPS BOARD AT THE TIME, UH, UH, THE CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY CENTER PROBABLY RAN THEIR OPERATION OUT OF THAT LOCATION AT PARKING LOS RIOS.
NOW THEY'VE ACTUALLY BUILT A NEW FACILITY UP IN MCKINNEY AND WHAT, AND THEY'RE GOING WHERE THE KIDS ARE.
QUITE FRANKLY, OUR, THE KIDS IN OUR SCHOOLS HAVE DROPPED OFF.
IT'S, IT'S, AND THEY WANT IT TO BE FURTHER NORTH.
THEY EXPLAINED THAT TO US SOON AS I GOT HERE AS CHIEF IN 2020.
I WAS AWARE THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
THEY DEAL, THEY STILL DO SOME THINGS THERE, BUT THE DIRECTOR AND MOST OF THAT STAFF IS ACTUALLY MOVED UP TO, UH, MCKINNEY.
AND SO, UH, UH, SO, SO THE OPERATIONAL NEED FOR US TO HAVE THEM THERE IS NOT THE SAME AS IT WAS BEFORE.
WE CAN, WE CAN STILL DO FORENSIC INTERVIEWS THERE, BUT MY STAFF IS GONNA, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY'VE, IF THEY'RE GONNA DO THE KIDS, YEAH, THEY'VE GOTTA GO THERE TO DO THE FORENSIC INTERVIEWS, BUT IF, BUT WE CAN'T TAKE A SUSPECT THERE, SO THEY STILL GOTTA DRIVE BACK TO THE STATION.
SO, SO IF THEY'RE AT THE STATION HAVING TO GO OVER THERE TO GO DO A FORENSIC INTERVIEW, IT'S GONNA BE A WASH.
SO, BUT, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THERE'S REALLY NO OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY FOR US HAVING THEM THERE NOW, WHICH WAS THE CASE WHEN YOU PROBABLY WERE ON THE CPS BOARD.
UH, THAT WAS, AND UH, I KNOW THAT THERE WERE SOME TIMES WHERE HAVING THOSE OFFICERS THERE, WHENEVER THERE WAS VISITATION ISSUES OR OTHER
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THINGS, THEY WERE ABLE TO INTERVENE AND INTERACT.AND SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE STILL, UH, PROTECTING OUR CPS EMPLOYEES THAT ARE IN PLANO.
AND, AND THOSE KIND OF INTERACTIONS DON'T HAPPEN AS MUCH OUT THERE NOW AS THEY DID PROBABLY WHEN YOU WERE ON THE BOARD.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER LEY? UH, EVENING CHIEF? YES, SIR.
UM, WELL, COMMISSIONER BRONSKI ASKED ONE, UM, I MAY HAVE MISSED IT.
THE CURRENT HEADQUARTERS THAT WE HAVE, ONCE THE NEW ONE IS BUILT AND VACATED, WHAT IS THE USE GONNA BE FOR THE CURRENT HEADQUARTERS? ARE WE LEASING THAT? DO WE OWN THAT? THAT'S PROBABLY A QUESTION FOR OUR FACILITIES DIRECTOR.
AGAIN, PAUL CLINTON'S A FACILITIES DIRECTOR, OUR DIVI, UM, DIVISION MANAGER.
SO WE DO OWN THE BUILDING, IF THAT WAS YOUR QUESTION.
UM, WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT, THERE'S A TWO PART MASTER PLAN THAT'S HAPPENED.
WE'VE ALREADY STUDIED POLICE IN 9 1 1.
WE ARE CURRENTLY STU STUDYING COURTS IN JAIL FOR THE 2029 BOND.
WHAT HAPPENS TO THE POLICE SIDE OF THAT BUILDING RIGHT NOW IS UNKNOWN.
PART OF DELIVERABLES OF THAT MASTER PLAN WILL BE SUGGESTIONS BY OUR CONSULTANTS ON WHAT VERSION DO WE DO FOR THE NEW JAIL AND THE NEW COURTS, WHETHER WE USE THAT LAND, USE THAT BUILDING, IT'S UNKNOWN, BUT THAT, THAT WILL REMAIN IN CITY INVENTORY UNTIL WE DETERMINE THAT.
SIMILAR, THE TRAINING CENTER THAT WE SHARE WITH RICHARDSON, WHEN WE GET OUR OWN SPACE, AND I LIKE MY OWN ROOM KIND OF DEAL, UM, DO WE VACATE THE JOINT, UH, AGREEMENT WITH RICHARDSON OR DO WE STILL MAINTAIN THAT COLLABORATION WITH THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, WHICH I CAN SEE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE A BENEFIT TO IT.
WHEN WE BUILD A NEW FACILITY, WE WILL STILL HAVE THAT PARTNERSHIP WITH RICHARDSON.
RICHARDSON HAS, UH, BOUGHT IN ON, UH, AND THEY AGREE THAT WE DO NEED A NEW FACILITY.
SO WHAT WOULD, HOW IT WOULD WORK IS WE WOULD BUILD THE NEW FACILITY ON THE SAME SITE, BASICALLY.
UH, BUT IT'S GONNA BE ON THE OTHER END OF THE DRIVING PAD.
SO ON THE WEST END OF THAT FACILITY, WE WOULD CONTINUE TO TRAIN IN THE, IN THE OLD FACILITY UNTIL THE NEW FACILITY IS BUILT, AND THEN WE WOULD MOVE INTO THE NEW FACILITY.
AND, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE ADVANTAGES OF GOING WITH A COMPLETELY NEW BUILD.
UH, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE IMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO CONTINUE TO TRAIN IN THE BUILDING WHEN THEY'RE ADDING SO MUCH MORE SQUARE FOOTAGE TO IT.
AND NOW WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER PLACE TO GO TO TRAIN BY DOING A NEW BUILD THAT TAKES THAT PROBLEM OFF THE TABLE AND WE CAN JUST STAY IN THE OLD FACILITY, PLANO AND RICHARDSON, UNTIL THE NEW FACILITY IS BUILT.
CONSIDERING THE POPULATION GROWTH WE'VE SEEN IN PLANO.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, NEXT UP.
I'M THE FIRE CHIEF HERE IN PLANO.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO TALK ABOUT THE THREE PROJECTS THAT, THAT WE HAVE, UH, THAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE ON THE BOND REFERENDUM.
THE FIRST ONE WOULD, UH, THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT IS, UH, STATION 14.
AND RIGHT NOW WE CURRENTLY HAVE THIR, UH, 13 STATIONS.
AND SO THIS WOULD BE A NEW STATION.
AND, UH, AS YOU SAW THE LOCATION EARLIER, AND YOU'LL SEE IT AGAIN IN THE SLIDES HERE, THERE AT AT PARK AND ALMA.
UM, OVER THE PAST 10 YEARS, WE'VE SEEN OVER A 50% INCREASE IN EMERGENCY CALLS.
YOU CAN, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THAT PATTERN ON THIS, THIS SLIDE.
UM, AND AS YOU KIND OF DIG DOWN A LITTLE DEEPER AS TO WHERE THOSE CALLS TAKE PLACE AND WHY WE WOULD PUT STATION 14, UH, WHERE IT IS, IF YOU LOOK AT STATIONS ONE AND TWO, THEY'RE BY FAR ARE BUSIEST STATIONS, STATION ONE'S ON AVENUE K, AND THEN, UH, STATION TWO'S THERE NEXT DOOR TO BYS HIGH SCHOOL ON 15TH STREET.
SO ONE OF THE REASONS WHY, UH, WE WOULD WANT TO PUT A STATION 14 IN BETWEEN STATIONS ONE AND TWO IS TO HELP WITH THE, THE RESPONSES THAT ARE IN GOING INTO STATIONS OR DISTRICTS ONE AND TWO.
UH, WHEN YOU ARE AS BUSY AS THEY ARE, A LOT OF TIMES YOU'LL HAVE OTHER STATIONS THAT HAVE TO RESPOND INTO THEIR DISTRICT.
YOU CAN SEE THE EXAMPLE RIGHT THERE, UH, ON DISTRICT ONE.
THE VERY FIRST ONE, WHICH IS MED THREE, THAT'S OUR STATION THREE AMBULANCE, UH, THERE AT, UH, SHERRY AND, UH, SHILOH, 612 TIMES IN 2023, THEY CAME INTO, UH, STATION ONE'S DISTRICT.
AND WHAT THAT DOES IS THAT LEAVES AN OPENING IN SESSION THREES DISTRICT, THEN YOU FIND YOURSELF TRYING TO FILL THOSE OPENINGS ALL, ALL THE TIME.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SOME OF THAT, BUT IF YOU HAVE IT, UH, FREQUENTLY ENOUGH, THEN YOU'VE GOT A LONGER RESPONSE TIME BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT, YOU'VE GOT GAPS, UH, BECAUSE THEY'RE FILLING IN AT THESE TWO BUSIER STATIONS.
ANOTHER REASON THAT WE LOOKED AT THIS AREA WAS IN 2020 THERE WAS, UH, ROUGHLY 17,000 PEOPLE
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THERE.AND THEN IN 20, UH, 34, WE'RE LOOKING AT OVER 24,000 PEOPLE THERE WITH THE INCREASE BECAUSE OF, UH, THE COL CREEK AND, UH, HERITAGE CREEKSIDE, UM, PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING ON THERE.
YOU ADD MORE PEOPLE, YOU ADD MORE EMERGENCY CALLS.
AGAIN, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE SAME MAP THAT YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN.
AND SO THIS IS AN EXAMPLE HERE ARE, UH, OF OUR, UH, CURRENT DISTRICTS RIGHT NOW, YOU SEE THE BLACK LINES.
THEY OUTLINE THE, THE DISTRICTS FOR OUR, OUR, UH, THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE THE PURPLE ONE WITH THE ONE ON AT THEIR STATION, ONE THE GREEN, THEIR STATION TWO.
AND IN THIS MAP YOU'LL SEE, UH, THE 14 IS RIGHT IN BETWEEN THOSE.
AND THAT WOULD BE THE DISTRICT THAT WOULD BE OUTLINED THERE.
ALL THOSE DOTS IN THERE REPRESENT EMERGENCY CALLS.
THEY DON'T REPRESENT ALL OF 'EM.
'CAUSE A LOT OF TIMES THEY'RE IN THE SAME LOCATION.
SO, UH, THERE'S ONLY ONE DOT REPRESENTING THAT.
BUT IF YOU GET A, A BUSY LOCATION, UH, THERE COULD, THERE COULD BE MORE CALLS THAN JUST WHAT ARE SHOWING THERE.
UM, THE, IN 2022, WHEN WE FIRST DID THIS STUDY, UH, THAT MADE, UH, TWENTY FOUR HUNDRED AND SEVENTY TWO CALLS TOOK PLACE IN WHAT WOULD BE STATION FOURTEENS DISTRICT, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE 13 STATIONS WE HAVE NOW, THAT WOULD BE THE SIXTH BUSIEST STATION.
SO IT WOULD BE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE RIGHT NOW ALREADY.
UH, AND SO IT, IT'S A RELATIVELY BUSY AREA.
THEN WHEN YOU LOOK, UH, AT THIS ONE, IT, IT REALLY HELPS SEE THE, WHAT THE BENEFIT WOULD BE OF HAVING STATION 14 THERE.
IT, YOU'LL PULL, UH, 1,458 CALLS OFF OF STATION 1, 769 CALLS OFF OF STATION TWO.
AND THEN YOU'LL SEE A, A ADDITIONAL CALLS COMING OFF OF STATIONS FOUR AND SIX.
AND AGAIN, THAT GOES BACK TO WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER WITH HAVING TO FI SOMEBODY HAVING TO COME INTO THAT DISTRICT AND FILL IN.
SO FOR ALL THOSE CALLS YOU'RE REMOVING, UH, FROM THERE, THAT HELPS.
THIS IS MY FAVORITE, UH, ONE OF ALL THE SLIDES IN HERE BECAUSE, UH, IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WE FOCUS ON, ON REALLY ON THREE THINGS.
WHEN, WHEN A NINE ONE ONE CALL COMES IN, WE TRY TO GET THERE QUICK, DO GOOD WORK AND SHOW COMPASSION.
SO THE GETTING THERE QUICK PART, UM, THERE'S, THIS IS A HUGE BENEFIT FOR US.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE, THE PURPLE, UH, HEXAGONS, THEY'RE, THEY'RE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THREE AND FOUR MINUTES OF A DECREASE IN RESPONSE TIME.
CONSIDERING THAT OUR AVERAGE RESPONSE TIME RIGHT NOW IS FIVE MINUTES AND 40 SECONDS.
IT MAKES SENSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT AT STATION WHERE THE NUMBER 14 IS.
OF COURSE THE ONES CLOSE BY ARE GONNA, YOU'RE GONNA SEE A DECREASE IN RESPONSE TIME TO THOSE.
BUT THEN WHEN YOU LOOK DOWN THERE AT THE ONES THAT WOULD BE AROUND THAT, THAT PARKER AND ALMA AREA, UM, PART OF THE REASON YOU, YOU SEE SUCH A, A IMPROVEMENT THERE IS BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF A NO MAN'S LAND COMING FROM STATION ONE OR STATION TWO, IT'S NOT EASY TO GET TO AND YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET THERE QUICKLY.
SO YOU SEE A, A PRETTY DRASTIC IMPROVEMENT IN THAT AREA.
SO REALLY THE, THE BENEFITS FOR US, YOU, YOU WOULD SEE, UH, A DE DECREASED RESPONSE TIMES THAT WE JUST SHOWED.
YOU'D ALSO SEE, UH, THE CALL REDUCTION IN OUR TWO BUSIEST DISTRICTS, WHICH HELP, UH, HELP WITH THE COVERAGE OF THOSE TWO DISTRICTS.
UM, YOU'D HAVE IN THAT NEW STATION, YOU'D HAVE AN ENGINE COMPANY AND A, UH, MED UNIT THERE IN, IN THAT, UH, THAT NEW STATION, SECOND PROJECT STATION EIGHT REMODEL, THAT'S AT HEDGE COKES AND ROBINSON ROAD.
UH, IT'S A 30 YEARS OLD, THERE HASN'T HAD A SIGNIFICANT, UH, REMODEL IN THAT TIME.
AND THERE'S, THERE'S REALLY A LIST ON THE NEXT TWO SLIDES OF THINGS THAT KINDA WAITED ON DOING, UH, PUT 'EM OFF FOR THIS POTENTIAL REMODEL.
BUT FOR US OPERATIONALLY, THE BIGGEST THING IS THE ADDITION OF OF BAYS.
RIGHT NOW THERE'S TWO BAYS AT THIS STATION.
YOU CAN SEE THE PICTURE THERE.
WE HAVE AN ENGINE IN A TRUCK THAT RESPOND FROM THERE.
UM, AS THE THE CITY GETS BUSIER, WE'LL PROBABLY NEED AN AMBULANCE IN THAT AREA.
AND SO THAT WOULD HELP US WITH, WITH, UH, ADDING AN AMBULANCE ALSO PROVIDES ADDITIONAL, UH, STORAGE AREA FOR OUR RESERVE APPARATUS.
SO BY DOING THAT, YOU WOULD ALSO HAVE TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF BEDS AND THE SIZE, UH, OF THE STATION.
SO IT'D BE A SIGNIFICANT REMODEL.
AND THEN OUR LAST ONE IS, UH, LAND ACQUISITION AND DESIGN.
UH, NOT JUST, UH, DON'T JUST NEED A NEW STATION BECAUSE OF THE, THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND IT, UH, IS OLDER, BUT ALSO BECAUSE, UH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT THERE, IT'S, IT'S OUR SMALLEST STATION BY FAR.
AND IN THE BAYS THERE, PART OF THE PROBLEM WAS 48 YEARS AGO, UH, A FIRE ENGINE.
OUR TRUCK WERE A LOT SMALLER THAN THEY ARE NOW.
SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE UNITS THAT CAN'T PARK IN THERE.
YOU CAN'T CLOSE THE DOORS, UH, FOR 'EM.
SO IT'S, IT'S JUST, IT'S A SMALLER STATION.
AND SO, UH, OUR GOAL IN, IN THIS BOND WOULD BE TO, TO PURCHASE THE LAND AND THEN HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT BOND, UH, TO GET THE
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MONEY TO BUILD A NEW STATION.ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? COMMISSIONERS, QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER BRONSKI, I JUST HAVE ONE TINY QUESTION AND THIS IS MORE OPERATIONAL.
DO YOU STILL ROLL AN ENGINE EVERY TIME WE ROLL FOR A MEDICAL CALL? WE DO NOT.
WE, WE HAVE WHAT WE CALL, WE HAVE TWO LEVELS.
ALL LEVEL ONE CALLS WE DO, UH, ARE LEVEL TWO CALLS.
THAT'S A, A LOWER PRIORITY CALL.
WE JUST SEND AN AMBULANCE ON THOSE AND WE DON'T EVEN RUN CODE THREE ON THOSE CALLS.
WE JUST SEND THEM TO THE, TO THAT LOCATION.
IT'S BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT, THAT SUSAN, UH, AND HER GROUP GET ON IN THE 9 1 1 CALL.
SO I WANNA SAY AS A CITIZEN, I APPRECIATE THE EFFICIENCIES THAT YOU'RE DOING THERE.
I REMEMBER A WHILE BACK WE WERE DOING THAT AND THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW MUCH THAT WAS COSTING US.
SO I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS BEING DILIGENT WITH EVERY DOLLAR THAT YOU SPEND.
'CAUSE AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'VE GOTTEN BUSIER AND BUSIER, SO THAT DOES HELP US IN THAT AREA.
COMMISSIONER ALI, UH, EVENING CHIEF, UM, IF YOU COULD GO BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT SHOWED HOW MUCH CALL VOLUME THE NEW STATION 14 WAS GONNA PULL FROM THE EXISTING.
SO BY THE NEW STATION, PULL IN THE 14 58, 7, 6, 9, WHAT HAVE YOU, WOULD THAT BRING THOSE STATIONS CALL VOLUME DOWN TO RIGHT AROUND THE 2,400? THAT STATION 14 WILL BE ASSUMING OR IT, IT DOESN'T GET 'EM QUITE THAT FAR, BUT IT DOES GET 'EM IN A LOT, A LOT BETTER RANGE HERE.
OH, SO THERE'LL STILL BE MORE MM-HMM
YEAH, BECAUSE, BECAUSE STATION ONE I THINK IS, WE'LL GO BACK AND LOOK, BUT I THINK IT'S ABOUT 5,000 CALLS.
WELL, THAT WAS IT RIGHT THERE.
SO, SO IT WON'T GET 'EM ALL THE WAY DOWN THERE IN LINE, BUT IT'LL, IT'LL HELP FROM WHERE WE, WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
AND, UH, APPRECIATE YOU GUYS THINKING OF A DA UPGRADE AND A DA DEFICIENCIES.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER TO THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.
UM, I JUST HAVE A, A QUICK QUESTION ALSO, OUT OF CURIOSITY, I ALREADY FORGOT THE NUMBER THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE ALLOCATED TO PRO TO THIS PROJECT.
THERE ARE A LOT OF NUMBERS IN THE BEGINNING, I ALREADY FORGOT, BUT ON THE LAST SLIDE, WHEN YOU SAY THERE'S, UM, THE, THIS ITEM INCLUDES THE PROCUREMENT OF THE LAND AND THE DESIGN, WHICH ITEM, LIKE WHAT'S THE NUMBER, DO YOU REMEMBER? AND WHICH, WHICH SLIDE AGAIN? I'M THE LAST SLIDE.
THE STATION NUMBER THREE OF STATION THREE.
THAT THAT SLIDE OR, YEAH, SO YOU SAID IF APPROVED THIS ITEM WOULD INCLUDE, SO WHICH ITEM? LIKE WHAT'S THE NUMBER HERE? I, I'M ALREADY, I FORGOT WHAT, WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE PRESENTATION, BUT IT'S ABOUT 4 MILLION AND CHANGE 0.7.
WHICH ONE WAS SHE? OH, ALL THE WAY BACK LIKE TWO? YEAH, YOU HAVE 4.7 IN FOR LAND ACQUISITION AND DESIGN, SO, OH, OKAY.
THAT'S NOT CONSTRUCTION, THAT'S JUST LAND AND DESIGN, CORRECT, CORRECT.
AND THEN, UH, JUST ONE QUESTION FROM ME.
UM, THANK YOU FOR TAKING CARE OF STATION ONE.
I, I LIVE NOT TOO FAR FROM THERE AND I KNOW THEY'RE INCREDIBLY BUSY HERE.
I'M GOING, COMING AND GOING ALL THE TIME.
UM, IS, WILL THIS HELP? I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE HAD, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW OFTEN IT HAPPENS.
I KNOW YOU HAVE ISSUES OCCASIONALLY WITH GETTING ACROSS THE RAILROAD TRACKS, SO THIS PROVIDES SOME ADDITIONAL RELIEF FOR THOSE TIMES AS WELL? YES, IT, IT DOES IT BECAUSE, UH, EVERYTHING WE DO IS BASED ON RESPONSE TIME.
SO WE, WE GO BACK AND, AND, AND WE WILL TRACK THAT AND THAT'S, THAT'S HOW THEY OUTLINE WHERE THE DISTRICT IS.
'CAUSE SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT MAKES SENSE WHEN YOU SEE THE DISTRICT, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S, YOU KNOW, REAL CROOKED.
IT'S ALL BASED ON WHO CAN GET THERE THE FASTEST.
SO, SO THAT WILL, IT'LL HELP, IT WILL HELP THE AREAS THAT, THAT ARE SLOWED DOWN BY THE, THE TRAIN BECAUSE IT'LL BASED, IT'S BASED ON THAT PLUS HOW, YOU KNOW, GO BACK AND YOU LOOK AT THE PAST YEAR AND HOW LONG IT TOOK US TO GET TO THE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT FIRE? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH CHIEF.
I'M THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS.
SO I'M PRESENTING ON OUR REQUEST.
SO OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT IS HOUSED OVER HERE OFF OF WEST PLANO PARKWAY.
WE'RE KIND OF IN THE SOUTHERN CENTRAL SECTION OF THE CITY.
PUBLIC WORKS PROVIDES ALL OF THE FLEET MAINTENANCE FOR ALL THE CITY'S FLEET.
IN ADDITION, WE DO ALL THE WATER, SEWER, STREETS, TRAFFIC, DRAINAGE, SOLID WASTE, AND ALSO A COMPOST OPERATION.
UM, AND OUR, WE HAVE FIVE TOTAL LOCATIONS RIGHT NOW, BUT THIS IS THE HUB OF ALL OF OUR OPERATIONS.
THIS IS WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THE VEHICLES ARE.
AND THEN LIKE I MENTIONED, ALL OF THE UH, REPAIRS OCCUR TOO.
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THE CURRENT FLEET SERVICES BUILDING WAS BUILT IN 1979 AND AS THE CHIEF MENTIONED, FIRE APPARATUSES WERE SMALLER, HEAVY EQUIPMENT TRUCKS WERE SMALLER.UM, OVER TIME THERE HAVE BEEN SOME ADDITIONS TO ADD MORE BAYS AND INCREASE CEILING HEIGHTS WHEN THAT'S HAPPENED.
BUT SINCE 2004 WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY MAJOR MODIFICATIONS TO THE BUILDING.
WE ENGAGE THE SERVICES OF A CONSULTANT TO HELP US EVALUATE THE ENTIRE CAMPUS AND IDENTIFY WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE, WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
PARKING IS ONE OF OUR BIGGEST STRUGGLES.
UM, AND THEN IDENTIFY, COULD WE AS A PUBLIC WORKS OPERATION STAY ON SITE OR DO WE NEED TO CONSIDER SPLITTING PUBLIC WORKS INTO TWO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS? AT THE CONCLUSION OF THAT STUDY, WHAT WE DETERMINED IS WE CURRENTLY HAVE ABOUT 40,000 SQUARE FEET FOR PUBLIC WORKS OPERATIONS.
WE HAVE ABOUT 51,000 SQUARE FEET FOR FLEET.
AND THEN OUR PARKS OPERATION, I'LL SHOW YOU OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT HAS A SMALL MAINTENANCE FACILITY ON THE CAMPUS AS WELL IS JUST UNDER 8,000.
FROM A PARKING PERSPECTIVE, WE HAVE JUST UNDER 700 PARKING SPACES.
KEEP IN MIND FOR PUBLIC WORKS FOR EVERY EMPLOYEE THAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE THE PERSONAL VEHICLE THAT SHOWS UP, BUT THEN WE ALSO HAVE A CREW CAB OR WE'RE GONNA HAVE AN BACKHOE OR A HEAVY EQUIPMENT OF SOME KIND.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A ONE-TO-ONE.
IT'S USUALLY LIKE FOR EVERY TWO EMPLOYEES WE'RE GONNA NEED ANOTHER PARKING SPACE FOR WHATEVER THAT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT IS THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE IN.
OUR CURRENT NEEDS RIGHT NOW IS WE CURRENTLY IN OUR OPERATIONS BUILDING DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH SQUARE FOOTAGE.
WE'RE KIND OF SQUEEZED IN THERE AND WE'VE GOT ABOUT 42,000 SQUARE FEET.
BASED UPON THE MASTER PLAN AND LOOKING AT WHAT WE THINK IS REALISTIC FROM A CONSERVATIVE GROWTH PERSPECTIVE FOR PUBLIC WORK STAFF, WE THINK THAT WE NEED TO BE AT ABOUT 45,000 SQUARE FEET.
MOST STAFF THAT WE'RE GONNA ADD, IT'S REALLY GONNA BE MORE ADDITION OF PARKING SPACE MORE SO THAN THE ADDITION OF SQUARE FOOTAGE SPACE INSIDE.
FOR FLEET OPERATIONS, WE CURRENTLY HAVE 17 BAYS TO DO ALL OF THE MAINTENANCE ON THE FLEET VEHICLES.
UM, IT'S DETERMINED THAT WE PROBABLY NEED CLOSER TO 24 AND THAT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A NIGHT SHIFT THAT WORKS ON ALL OF OUR SOLID WASTE TRUCKS.
SO BY MOVING TO 24 BAYS WE COULD GET THEM OFF OF NIGHT SHIFT, WHICH IS DIFFICULT TO STAFF AND ALSO DELAYS SOLID WASTE TRUCK REPAIRS.
WE TYPICALLY, UM, USE OUR RESERVE FLEET DURING THE DAY SO THEY CAN KEEP RUNNING AND THEN THE REPAIRS GET DONE AT NIGHT.
SO THAT WOULD HELP MAKE OUR OPERATIONS A LITTLE BIT MORE EFFICIENT.
THE PARKS OPERATION HAS ENOUGH SQUARE FOOTAGE AS IS, BUT WE'VE IDENTIFIED THAT WE WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO RELOCATE THEM TO ANOTHER LOCATION 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA TAKE THEIR SPOT THAT THEY'RE AT RIGHT NOW.
UM, AND THEN CAMPUS PARKING AS I MENTIONED, THAT'S OUR CHALLENGE.
OUR 20 YEAR NEED NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE BIT OVER A THOUSAND, UH, PARKING SPACES FOR BOTH CITY VEHICLES AND PERSONAL VEHICLES.
THESE ARE SOME PICTURES OF THE LOCATION JUST SO YOU COULD SEE.
SO AS I MENTIONED, THE BAY HEIGHTS AREN'T QUITE TALL ENOUGH, PLUS YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE HVAC UM, DUCT WORK AND THINGS THAT ARE IN THERE AS WELL.
PAUL'S TEAM HAS DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB OF TRYING TO REMOVE AND CONSOLIDATE WHERE POSSIBLE TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF SPACE ABOVE THE VEHICLES, BUT IT'S REALLY JUST NOT ENOUGH AT THIS POINT.
WE REALLY NEED SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER CEILINGS.
SO YOU KNOW, THESE ARE EXAMPLES OF SOME OF OUR LARGER FLEET VEHICLES, INCLUDING A FIRE APPARATUS.
SIMILARLY, YOU KNOW, OPENING UP A FIRE TRUCK AND TRYING TO WORK ON IT.
YOU REALLY DO NEED THE LADDER ALL THE WAY UP AND EXTENDED SO OUR STAFF DO THE BEST THEY CAN AND MAKING SURE IT'S SAFE FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO WORK ON THOSE VEHICLES.
AND THEN ALSO PARKING AS I MENTIONED.
SO ON THE TOP LEFT AND TOP RIGHT ARE ACTUALLY WE HAVE TO DOUBLE PARK A LOT OF OUR VEHICLES AT THE END OF THE WORK SHIFT DAY.
AND SO THAT REQUIRES STRATEGICALLY BRINGING IN A CREW AT THE SAME TIME SO THE NEXT ONE CAN COME PARK BEHIND IT AND THEN ROLLING THEM OUT THE NEXT MORNING AT THE SAME WAY SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT ALL OF OUR VEHICLES PARKED IN THE PARKING.
ON TOP OF THAT, I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THESE VEHICLES AT THE BOTTOM ARE LOCATED, BUT IN THE TOP OF OUR LOCATION WHERE PARKS CURRENTLY IS, WE HAVE AN OVERFLOW STORAGE AREA AND THAT OVERFLOW STORAGE AREAS ALSO WE'RE HAVING TO PARK SOME OF OUR DUMP TRUCKS AND SOME OF OUR BACKHOES AND OTHER STORAGE ITEMS AS WELL.
WE ARE, WE ARE GROWING OUT OF OUR CURRENTLY DEVELOPED SPACE AREA, SO THIS IS A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY.
SO AT THE VERY TOP IS THAT LOCATION I JUST SHOWED YOU WHERE WE HAVE OUR OVERFLOW PARKING AND OUTDOOR STORAGE.
JUST BELOW THAT IS THE PARKS MAINTENANCE BUILDING WHERE THEY ALSO HAVE SOME OUTDOOR STORAGE AND VEHICLES AS WELL.
THE PINK HIGHLIGHTED AREA IS AN ENCORE EASEMENT.
THERE'S ACTUALLY TRANSMISSION LINES THAT RUN THROUGH THAT AREA AND WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BUILD ANY SORT OF BUILDING STRUCTURES ON THAT LOCATION, BUT WE CAN USE IT FOR PARKING.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE MOST OF OUR PARKING IS FOR PERSONAL VEHICLES AND SOME OF OUR FLEET VEHICLES ARE THERE AS WELL.
AND THEN JUST SOUTH OF THERE, THE PUBLIC WORKS OPERATIONS MAIN BUILDING AND THEN THE FLEET OPERATIONS BUILDING ARE THE TWO OTHER ONES.
UM, WE LOOKED AT INSTEAD OF DOING ANY SORT OF ADDITIONAL BUILDING TO ACTUALLY ADD ON TO WHERE THOSE CURRENT FACILITIES ARE, THE CHALLENGE IS IT FURTHER TAKES AWAY OUR PARKING AND IT DOESN'T INCREASE ANY SORT OF OUR PARKING COUNTS.
SO AFTER EVALUATING WE WERE DETERMINED WE COULD STAY ON SITE.
IN ORDER TO STAY ON SITE THOUGH WE WILL HAVE TO FIND A NEW LOCATION FOR PARKS MAINTENANCE AND WE'VE WORKED CLOSELY WITH THEM THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE TIME AND WE HAVE SET ASIDE EXISTING FUNDING THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO BE ABLE TO RELOCATE THEM.
AND THEN AFTER THAT WE WOULD, UM, BUILD THE FLEET BUILDING IN THE TOP CORNER AND THEN WE WOULD TEAR DOWN THE EXISTING FLEET BUILDING.
SO THAT'S WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED IN THIS BOND PACKAGE.
WE DIDN'T THINK REALISTICALLY IN ORDER TO KEEP OPERATIONS
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GOING, WE COULD TEAR EVERYTHING DOWN OR BUILD ANYTHING ALL AT ONCE.SO IT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE A TWO PHASE APPROACH ACROSS TWO DIFFERENT BOND PROGRAMS. UM, BUT BUILDING THE NEW FLEET BUILDING IN THE TOP LEFT WOULD ADD THE 24 BAYS THAT WE NEED.
WE MIGHT HAVE TO SEQUENCE THEM DEPENDING UPON HOW MUCH FUNDING IS ALLOCATED IN THIS BOND PACKAGE.
AND THEN AFTER THAT, THE CURRENT FLEET BUILDING THAT'S THERE NOW WOULD EVENTUALLY BE DEMOLITION ASSUMING THE 2029 BOND PACKAGE PASSES.
AND THEN IF THAT OCCURS THEN WE WOULD BUILD THE NEW PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING ON THAT LOCATION AND TEAR DOWN THE OLD ONE AND COULD START REUTILIZING THE SITE AS NEEDED TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT PARKING AND EFFICIENCIES THAT WE NEED.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? UH, COMMISSIONER ROWLEY, YOU MENTIONED THIS IS GONNA BE IN TWO PHASES.
UM, IN OUR PACKET THERE IS, UH, A NOTE THAT THIS IS ADDITIONAL TO 2017 AND 2019.
DOES THAT MEAN THAT BOND, UH, REFERENDUM WAS PASSED IN 2017 AND 2019 FOR THIS PARTICULAR? SO ORIGINALLY IN 2017 AND 19 THERE WAS, UM, A PACKAGE TO RENOVATE THE TWO BUILDINGS AND IT WAS NOT NEARLY ENOUGH FUNDING THAT WAS GONNA BE NEEDED.
SO THERE WAS A PAUSE PUT ON IT AND THAT'S WHEN WE DECIDED THAT WE WOULD ADD, UM, THE, UH, CONSULTANT WOULD COME IN AND HELP US EVALUATE THE LOCATIONS.
WHEN WE TRIED TO ADD SOME SQUARE FOOTAGE HERE AND SOME SQUARE FOOTAGE HERE, THE PARKING WAS ALWAYS GONNA BE OUR CHALLENGE AND THAT WASN'T REALLY DISCOVERED I THINK DURING THOSE ORIGINALS.
ALSO, PAUL, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THERE WAS FUNDING SET ASIDE TO DO, UM, SOME UPDATES FOR A FUELING FACILITY AS WELL AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO IN THE FUTURE HERE AS WELL.
IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH, SO BUT THIS 40 I, I LOST MY, THIS 54 MILLION ASK IS GONNA BE IN ADDITION TO 2017 AND 2019.
AND THAT'S PHASE ONE, MEANING THERE'S ANOTHER ADDITION COMING IN 2029 POTENTIALLY CORRECT.
SO BETWEEN THE 2017 AND THE 2019 AND THEN THIS FUNDING THERE WOULD BE ABOUT 59 MILLION.
AND SOME OF THE FUNDING THAT WE ALREADY HAVE IS ACTUALLY WHAT'S GONNA, WE'RE GONNA BE USING TO RELOCATE THE PARKS OPERATION SO THAT THEY CAN MOVE OFF OF THAT CURRENT SITE THAT'S THERE BECAUSE WE NEED TO GET THEM RELOCATED AND IN THEIR NEW SPACE BEFORE WE COULD START ANY SORT OF CONSTRUCTION ON THAT LOCATION IN THE TOP CORNER.
I, WE, WE DON'T HAVE, UH, IT'S OUT OF OUR PURVIEW ON COST AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
IT'S, IT'S MORE CONFORMANCE TO THE PLAN.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NOT SEEING ANY.
ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YES, HAPPY TO BE HERE FROM MY SLIDE.
SO SIMILAR TO STATION THREE, WE ARE LOOKING TO GET LAND TO BUY THE BUY MONEY TO BUY THE LAND AND PAY FOR THE DESIGN OF FACILITIES MAINTENANCE.
CURRENTLY WE ARE HOUSE NEXT TO THE POLICE TRAINING ACADEMY IN THE OLD ANIMAL SHELTER.
WE HAVE STORAGE UNITS, WE RENT ALL OVER THE CITY FOR ALL THE EXTRA CEILING TILES AND FAN BELTS AND EVERY OTHER THING WE STORE.
UM, AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY LOCKER ROOM SPACES FOR OUR FOLKS.
SO WE'D LIKE TO CONSOLIDATE TO ONE LOCATION, WHAT THE PROPER STORAGE FACILITIES AND THE PROPER LOCKER ROOM FACILITIES FOR OUR FOLKS.
ANY QUESTIONS? LEMME MAKE SURE I HEARD YOU RIGHT.
YOU'RE IN THE OLD ANIMAL SHELTER? YES, SIR.
WE EVEN HAVE THE OLD CREMATORIUM STILL THERE AS THE BACKUP CREMATORIUM.
AND THAT'S AN INTERESTING OFFICE FEATURE,
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS PART OF IT THEN? IF NONE.
ALL RIGHT, SEEING NONE, WHO'S NEXT? WHAT DID I JUST DO? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ERIC, LIBBY HOLT, FOLKS, DIRECTOR OF LIBRARIES.
I'M DELIGHTED TO SHARE INFORMATION ABOUT YOUR FIVE LIBRARIES IN PLANO.
BACK IN 2017, WE WERE ABLE TO RENOVATE TWO OF OUR LOCATIONS, HARRINGTON LIBRARY AND DAVIS LIBRARY WITH THE BOND AND THEY'RE GORGEOUS.
SO WE ARE ASKING TO IMPROVE THREE OTHER LOCATIONS.
OUR FINAL THREE SCH LIBRARY, IT'S A 43-YEAR-OLD BUILDING.
UM, WE'RE LOOKING TO RENOVATE THE RESTROOM SO THAT THEY COMPLY WITH ACCESSIBILITY CODES.
WE'D LIKE TO REPLACE THE CARPET, PAINT, JUST SOME GENERAL TOUCH UP AND THEN ADD STUDY PODS.
SO IF YOU'VE BEEN TO A CORPORATE CAMPUS, YOU'VE SEEN GLASS SORT OF STUDY PODS.
WHAT WE'VE SEEN WHEN WE RENOVATED THE OTHER TWO LOCATIONS IS HIGH DEMAND AND USED BY THE PUBLIC OF STUDY ROOMS. THEY'RE AT NO CHARGE.
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CARD AND RESERVE THEM, EXCUSE ME.AND THEY ALSO NEED TO REPLACE THE ELEVATOR AT SHIMMEL FIIG LIBRARY.
RENOVATING RESTROOMS TO COMPLY WITH THE ACCESSIBILITY CODES, UM, REFRESH, FINISHES, REMOVE THE WALL COVERINGS THAT ARE PEELING AND ADD PAINT.
WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD STUDY PODS AS WELL TO THAT LOCATION.
AND THEN PAR LIBRARY, WHICH I ALWAYS THINK OF AS BEING BRAND NEW, BUT IT'S 24 YEARS OLD.
RENOVATING THE RESTROOMS, REFRESHING THE FINISHES, ADDING STUDY PODS, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT YOUR LIBRARIES.
ALL RIGHT, COMMISSION, UH, COMMISSIONER BRONSKI.
UH, YOU HAVE THREE BUILDINGS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, REMODELING, ONE'S 43 YEARS OLD, ONE'S 35, AND ONE'S 24, RIGHT? YES.
SO I'VE BEEN LISTENING TO EVERYBODY TALK ABOUT ALL THESE NEW FACILITIES THEY'RE GETTING AND UH, IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE THE LIBRARIES CONTINUE TO DO MORE WITH LESS.
UH, AND I'M CONTINUALLY ASTONISHED AT HOW WE CONTINUE TO HAVE FIVE LIBRARIES, BUT WE CONTINUE TO HAVE THE USAGE OF THEM CONTINUE TO GROW, BUT WE DON'T FIND THAT WE CAN EQUIP YOU A LITTLE BIT BETTER WITH UPDATED OR NEW FACILITIES AS A LOT OF THESE OTHERS ARE GETTING.
UH, WOULD IT BE A DREAM OF THE LIBRARY TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A NEW FACILITY RATHER THAN HAVING TO UPDATE A 43-YEAR-OLD ONE? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
THIS WAS ASKED ALSO BY THE COMMITTEE AS WELL, AND I CALLED MARK ISRAELSON UP.
SO WHAT'S DECIDED FOR 2025 IS WHAT FACILITIES IS ABLE TO WORK THROUGH AND AND DELIVER UPON, AND THAT IS WHAT WE'VE ASKED FOR AS PART OF THE PROJECT.
AS YOU'VE SEEN, WE HAVE A LOT OF NEEDS ACROSS THE CITY, AND SO THIS IS WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH.
I TOTALLY GET IT AND I DIDN'T MEAN TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.
I'M A HUGE FAN OF THE LIBRARIES.
SO AM I, I'M, I'M CONTINUALLY, I WANT TO JUST MAKE IT CLEAR THAT I'M IMPRESSED THAT YOU ALWAYS, YOUR STAFF AND EVERYBODY THAT'S IN THE LIBRARIES ALWAYS SEEMS TO DO MORE WITH LESS AND, UH, HITS THE BALL OUTTA THE BALLPARK.
TRYING TO ALWAYS MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE CURRENT ON WHAT'S GOING ON, THAT UH, YOU'RE MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE CITIZENS OF PLANO WHILE ALSO DOING IT CLOSER, UH, TO A SACRIFICIAL PLACE.
UM, SO I I REALLY APPRECIATE, UH, WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'VE DONE AND WHAT YOU'VE BROUGHT PERSONALLY TO THE LIBRARIES IN YOUR YEARS ALREADY.
AND ON BEHALF OF TEAM PPL, IT'S OUR DELIGHT.
WE SAW 300,000 MORE PEOPLE LAST YEAR THAN WE'VE SEEN AND IT'S JUST A JOY FOR THE PEOPLE COMING THROUGH.
WE JUST WANNA CREATE A GREAT EXPERIENCE.
SO WE WOULD LOVE TO UPDATE WHAT'S BEEN PRESENTED IF POSSIBLE AND THE INCREASES ARE WHAT I'M HIGHLIGHTING THAT YOU'RE DOING WITH THE SAME SPACE THAT YOU'VE HAD BASICALLY FOR A LONG TIME, 24 YEARS.
THANKS COMMISSIONER ALI, I THANK YOU HERE THAT WE HAVE A SOFT SPOT FOR LIBRARIES GIVEN THAT DAVIS HAS HOSTED US SO GRACIOUSLY FOR
ON MARK'S POINT 43 YEARS, 24 YEARS, WHAT'S THE USE LIFE FOR LIBRARY? SO WE JUST DID DAVIS, WHEN SHOULD WE EXPECT TO REFRESH DAVIS AND WHAT HAVE YOU? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
UM, TO ME THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE REALLY DONE SOMETHING BIG.
MY GUESS WOULD BE, I'M GONNA DEFER TO PAUL A. LITTLE BIT.
MY GUESS IS WHEN, WHEN THE USE SHOWS AND WHEN IT'S NEEDED AND WE, WE LOOK AT HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE COMING TO USE THE FACILITY, WE LOOK AT HOW IT WEARS.
I MEAN WE SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE EACH AND EVERY DAY.
SO WE JUST WANT IT TO LOOK THE BEST IT CAN POSSIBLY LOOK FOR THE COMMUNITY.
SO THESE LIBRARIES HAVE HAD SOME COSMETIC RENOVATIONS IN THEIR HISTORY.
THE RESTROOMS ARE PROBABLY THE WHAT NEEDS THE MOST HELP OTHER THAN MEETING HER NEEDS NOW WITH THE STUDY PODS.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH WITH THAT.
UM, WE TEND TO WANT ABOUT, ABOUT A 15 YEAR CYCLE ON MOST FINISHES, ESPECIALLY RESTROOMS. SO SECOND QUESTION TO DEMAND.
WE JUST WENT THROUGH PARKING VARIANCES GALORE.
THAT SEEMS TO JUST SUGGEST THAT OUR SCHOOL POPULATION IS DECLINING.
ARE YOU NOT SEEING THAT TRANSLATING INTO THE LIBRARY USE? NO, WE'RE NOT
UM, STILL A LOT OF FAMILIES, BUT REALLY WHERE OUR GROWING
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POPULATION IS, WHAT YOU'LL SEE ALSO IN OUR, WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE CITY ITSELF IS OUR SENIOR POPULATION.SO WHEN YOU ASK ABOUT EXPANSION, JUST TO BE FRANK, WHERE WE'RE EXPANDING IS OUTREACH.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE AWARE, BUT WE'RE, WE HAVE TWO VEHICLES NOW THAT OUR FRIENDS FUNDED FOR US AND WE GO OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY TO DELIVER CLASSES AND PROGRAMS AND WE NOW HAVE ROUTES WHERE WE GO OUT TO UM, SENIOR, UM, LIKE RETIREMENT HOMES AND WE DELIVER SERVICES ONCE A MONTH AND WE HELP 'EM WITH DIGITAL LITERACY AND CLASSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO WE'RE MORE FOCUSED ON GETTING OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND WITH OUR FIVE LOCATIONS, HOW OUR ORIGINATOR, MS. DAVIS PLANNED THEM.
THEY'RE VERY WELL SITUATED ACROSS THE COMMUNITY AND I THINK THEY'RE VERY ACCESSIBLE THANKS TO OUR FRIENDS IN PARKS ON THE TRAILS.
SO IT'S A REALLY NICE, UH, MATCHUP.
BUT YOU'LL SEE US ON THE STREET IN OUR BLUE VANS OR WHEREVER THERE'S BUBBLES.
COMMISSION ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT LIBRARIES? THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER FACILITIES QUESTIONS? THAT IS FACILITIES QUESTIONS? THAT IS ALL FACILITIES.
ABBY OWENS, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS AGAIN.
SO I'LL KICK OFF OUR REFERENDUM ON STREET PROJECTS.
SOME OF THESE SLIDES YOU ALL HAVE SEEN THAT ARE VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE TALKED TO YOU ALL ABOUT DURING THE CIP PROGRAM.
SO OVERALL, THIS IS THE PRE PRELIMINARY BOND REQUEST FOR STREETS RELATED PROJECTS.
UM, PUBLIC WORKS FUNDING IS ONLY REQUESTED FOR THE TOP TWO ITEMS AND THAT'S GONNA BE THE ARTERIAL STREET REPAIRS AND RESIDENTIAL STREET AND ALLEY REPAIRS.
THE REST OF THEM, CALEB THORNHILL, OUR DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING HE'LL TALK ABOUT, UM, IN A LITTLE BIT LATER JUST TO KIND OF HIGHLIGHT THE CITIZEN SURVEY IN 2022, MAINTENANCE OF CITY STREETS WAS STILL THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY OVERWHELMINGLY.
AND THEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT SPECIFICALLY THE QUESTION RELATED TO PERCEPTIONS OF THE CURRENT SERVICE LEVEL, UM, THE QUESTION WAS HOW MUCH, HOW DO YOU THINK WE'RE DOING ON THOROUGHFARES, ON RESIDENTIALS, ALLEYS AND SIDEWALKS? AND IT FEELS LIKE MOST PEOPLE THINK IT'S ABOUT RIGHT.
UM, AND SO WITH THAT IN MIND, OUR BOND REQUEST FOR THIS GO AROUND IS VERY MUCH IN LINE WHAT WE ASKED FOR LAST TIME WITH THE INCREASED ESCALATION COST ESTIMATES.
SO IT'S NOT THE SAME DOLLAR FIGURE ATS HIGHER, BUT WE'RE THINKING WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO ABOUT THE SAME AND A LITTLE BIT LESS IN ONE PLACE.
SO THIS IS A MAP OF OUR STREET NETWORK AGE.
JUST TO KIND OF SHOW YOU IT FELT, IT'S BASED UPON HOW THE CITY DEVELOPED.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE RED AREAS ARE OUR OLDER STREET NETWORKS AND WHEN THEY WERE INSTALLED.
AND THE GREEN AREAS ARE THE NEWER, UM, ITEMS. 95% OF OUR STREETS ARE CONCRETE WITH MOST OF THEM, UM, BEING ABOUT 30 YEARS OLD OR MORE PAVEMENT, MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR.
SO PUBLIC WORKS' GOAL IS TO STAY ON TOP OF STREET MAINTENANCE TO WHERE WE STAY UP IN THAT GREEN AREA, WHICH AN AVERAGE AGE OF A STREET IS MEANT TO BE SHOWN ON THIS USING THE BLACK LINE AND BY DOING PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE TYPE TREATMENTS, REALLY IT'S WATER IS THE ENEMY OF STREETS.
SO REALLY WHAT WE FOCUS ON IS KEEPING WATER OUT OF THE JOINTS AND OUT OF, UM, ANY SORT OF CRACKS.
SO AS LONG AS WE CAN DO PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE, WE STAY UP IN THE GREEN AREA AND THEN YOU'LL SEE THE POTHOLES DEVELOP AND YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THE DETERIORATION IN INDIVIDUAL PANELS.
SO THAT'S WHEN WE GO IN AND WE DO WHAT WE CALL REHAB.
UM, THAT'S GONNA BE THE ORANGE LINE MEANT TO BE DEPICTED THERE.
ALL THAT MEANS IS WE'RE GONNA GO IN AND DO PANEL REPLACEMENTS OF THOSE STREETS, NOT THE WHOLE THING.
WE'RE NOT GONNA TEAR OUT ALL THE CONCRETE AND REPAIR IT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO SUBGRADE.
THIS IS GONNA BE THOSE PANEL SECTIONS.
AND THEN IF WE FALL BEHIND ON THAT, THEN THAT'S WHEN IT GOES INTO RECONSTRUCTION.
AND RECONSTRUCTION IS GONNA BE COMPLETE LANE CLOSURES WHERE YOU'LL HAVE TO SHIFT TO ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD OR THE OTHER AND IT WOULD BE A FULL REBUILD.
ENGINEERING DOES THAT IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS VERY FREQUENTLY AND THAT'S WHERE YOU'LL SEE WHERE THEY HAVE AN ENTIRE ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD CLOSED AND THEN THEY HAVE THE OTHER SIDE CLOSED.
SO OUR GOAL IS TO STAY IN THAT GREEN AND ORANGE AREA AND ONCE IT GETS TO A POINT WHERE PUBLIC WORKS CAN'T MAINTAIN IT, THAT'S WHEN WE'LL HAND THOSE OVER TO ENGINEERING AND THAT'S WHEN THEY WOULD DO THE DESIGN AND TAKE ON THE PROJECT FROM THERE.
THIS IS A HIGHLIGHT OF WHAT PUBLIC WORKS HAS ACCOMPLISHED.
YOU'LL NOTICE A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN 22, 23 AND 2324.
A LOT OF THAT IS DUE TO THE BOND REFERENDUM THAT WAS PASSED IN 21.
TO HIGHLIGHT WHAT WE MEAN WHEN WE SAY ARTERIAL STREET RECONSTRUCTION, WE'RE ASKING FOR ABOUT 130 MILLION HERE AND ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE ON THIS MAP.
WHAT THIS IS SHOWING IS WE DO STREET INSPECTION SCORES, UM, AND WE HAVE THEM FOR OUR STREETS, INCLUDING ARTERIALS AND RESIDENTIALS.
OUR NEXT ONE WE'LL ACTUALLY DO IN 20, IN LATER IN 2025.
BUT WHAT THIS SHOWED IS WHEN THE STREETS WERE DRIVEN AND RATED USING A METHODOLOGY WITH AN ENGINEERING FIRM, THESE WERE THE AVERAGE KIND OF APPEARANCES OF WHAT THEY DETERMINED THE, UM, CONDITION OF THE STREETS WERE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, YOU'VE SEEN THIS ANIMATION BEFORE, SO BE KIND.
IT'S MEANT TO BE A ANIMATION SAID LOOSELY, BUT THIS IS AN EXPLANATION OF WHAT WE DO FROM A REPAIR ON AN ARTERIAL.
WE'LL GO IN, WE IDENTIFY CERTAIN PANELS THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED.
THE CONCRETE WAS REPLACED, IT DOES NOT MATCH.
AND THEN WE PUT DOWN AN ULTRA THIN OVERLAY ON TOP.
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IS AIMING AT DOING THE CONCRETE REPAIRS ON OUR MAJOR ARTERIALS.AND THEN FOLLOWING UP WITH THIS ULTRA THIN OVERLAY, AS I MENTIONED, WITH WATER BEING THE, UM, ENEMY OF STREETS, YOU WANNA GO IN, WE PUT THIS OVERLAY ON TOP OF IT, AND THAT'S MEANT TO EXTEND THE LIFE OF THE CONCRETE, PROVIDE THAT EMULSION LAYER, WHICH IS WHAT PROTECTS WATER FROM GETTING INTO IT.
AND THEN THE, UM, ULTRA THIN ASPHALT OVERLAY IS LIKE THE FROSTING, BUT IT PROVIDES A MUCH BETTER RIDE.
AFTER WE'VE DONE THAT, YOU CAN SEE, UM, WE USE CARO GRAPH AS OUR ASSET MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE.
AND WHAT CARO GRAPH DOES IS IT TAKES THE SCORE THAT WAS PROVIDED FROM THE STREET INSPECTIONS IN 20 AND 21, AND BASED UPON WHAT WE CALL TREATMENTS ARE DONE TO THE ROADS, WHETHER IT'S JUST CONCRETE REPAIRED OR CONCRETE REPAIRED AND OVERLAID, IT DOES AUTOMATIC CALCULATIONS OF WHAT THE STREET SCORES SHOULD BE.
WE, LIKE I MENTIONED, WE WILL REIVE OUR STREETS AT THE END OF NEXT YEAR, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, OUR BEST CASE ESTIMATES HERE, YOU CAN SEE A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT BETWEEN WHAT WE INSPECTED IN 2020.
AND AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BEEN INVESTING A LOT IN, UH, QUAT ROAD REPLACEMENT.
UM, AND THEN NOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE BASED UPON OUR ESTIMATES FROM REPAIRING THE CONCRETE AND THEN INSTALLING THE ULTRA THIN OVERLAY.
AND I WILL JUST ALSO MENTION WITH THE RECONSTRUCTION, THIS INCLUDES AN EIGHTH PERCENT ESTIMATED COST FOR INCREASE FOR REPAIRS.
AND THEN BECAUSE ARTER OVERLAYS WE'VE ONLY BEEN DOING FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS, WE ADDED ABOUT A 10% CONTINGENCY FOR WHAT WE THINK THOSE COSTS WILL BE YEAR OVER YEAR.
AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROGRAM.
THIS IS OUR OVERLAY PROGRESS TO DATE.
UM, WE PILOTED INDEPENDENCE ROAD FROM 15TH TO PARK, AND THAT'S WHAT WAS DONE IN 1718.
AND THEN THE BOND REFERENDUM IS WHERE WE ADDED THE ADDITIONAL ROADS.
IF YOU ADD UP WHAT WE'VE COMPLETED SO FAR, IT'S AROUND 45.6 MILES.
PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE WE HAD TO DELAY, UM, SOME OF THE OVERLAY DUE TO SOME WEATHER SHIFT CHANGES THAT HAPPENED THIS PAST YEAR AND SOME CHALLENGES WE HAD WITH RAIN.
AND SO WE'LL COMPLETE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THAT OVER THIS NEXT YEAR.
AND SO THAT'S WHY 24 25 LOOKS SO BIG.
IT'S 'CAUSE WE HAD TO MOVE SOME OF THEM AROUND.
UM, OUR 2025 BOND ESTIMATES IS WE THINK THAT IT'S GONNA COST US ON AVERAGE ACROSS ALL FOUR OF THE YEARS, ABOUT $3.45 MILLION TO DO THE REPAIR AND THE OVERLAY.
AND THEN WE THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET TO ABOUT 38 MILES.
UM, THAT WILL NOT MAKE, THAT WILL NOT HAVE EVERYTHING OVERLAID THAT WE WOULD LIKE, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE, UM, WE STILL HAVE, UM, QUITE A FEW MILES THAT WILL BE REMAINING.
OUR PLAN RIGHT NOW IS ABOUT A 10 OR ABOUT A 15 YEAR PLAN FROM THE TIME WE STARTED IN 21 TO THE TIME WE'LL BE ABLE TO FINISH ALL OF THAT THOUGH.
AS I WILL SHOW YOU HERE,
SO THE GREEN SHOWS EVERYTHING WE'VE COMPLETED SO FAR.
THE BLUE IS WHAT WE HAVE PLANNED FOR 24 25 THAT WE HAD TO CARRY OVER.
AND THEN ALL OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE IN GRAY ARE EITHER GOING TO BE UNDER REPAIR SOON OR CURRENTLY UNDER REPAIR.
AND THEN WE'LL BE OVERLAID HERE IN THE NEXT FOUR TO FIVE YEARS.
UM, THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF PRIVATE PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING ON.
SO LIKE PLANO PARKWAY, THE AREA THAT'S IN GRAY, WE DON'T KNOW WHEN EXACTLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO OVERLAY THAT.
THE NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT HAS SOME WORK BEING DONE THERE.
ENGINEERING'S BEEN DOING SOME, UM, SIGNALED INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS.
SO THAT DELAYS OUR ABILITY TO GET THERE AND REPAIR AND DO OVERLAYS AS WELL.
THIS IS KIND OF A BALLPARK OF WHERE WE'LL BE HEADING, UH, BUT ON TOP OF THAT, AS WE HAVE OTHER ROADS THAT ARE REPAIRED AND READY TO HAVE, BE OVERLAID, WE CAN SHIFT THOSE AROUND.
SO IT'S KIND OF OUR GUIDELINE WE'RE WORKING OFF OF.
UM, AND ANY SECTIONS THAT YOU SEE THAT HAVE A GAP.
SO FOR INSTANCE, PLANO PARKWAY FROM ABOUT, UM, PRESTON ROAD OVER TO UM, 75, THERE IS A MAJOR SEWER LINE PROJECT THAT ENGINEERING'S DOING, AND BECAUSE OF THAT, IT'S GONNA DIRECTLY IMPACT THE PAVEMENT.
SO WE DON'T HAVE THAT PLAN FOR REPAIRS OR OVERLAY IN THIS PACKAGE FOR NOW.
UM, BUT AGAIN, AS THINGS SHIFT AROUND, WE KIND OF MOVE IT.
THE BOND REFERENDUM IS WRITTEN IN SUCH A WAY WHERE IT'S, WE'RE GOING TO THE MOST NEEDED AREAS AT THE TIME BASED UPON OUR EVALUATIONS.
THE OTHER PART OF OUR REPAIR IS FOR RESIDENTIAL STREET AND ALLEYS.
WE'RE ASKING FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN TWO, UH, $92 MILLION.
AND WHERE WHAT WE DO THESE IS, WE CALL THEM NEIGHBORHOOD SWEEPS, AND THEY'RE BASED UPON NEIGHBORHOOD ZONES.
AND IT'S BASED ON THE AVERAGE AGE OF THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE STREETS IN THE AREA AND WHAT THE DETERIORATION OF THE STREETS, ALLEYS AND SIDEWALKS ARE.
A LOT OF TIMES WE SPEND, UM, A SIGNIFICANT PORTION WORKING ON ALLEYS AND ALSO MEETING A DA REQUIREMENTS.
WHEN WE GO IN AND DO A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IT REQUIRES US TO BRING THAT AREAS UP TO A DA COMPLIANCE, AND SO WE END UP PUTTING IN A LOT OF RAMP MODIFICATIONS AT THAT MOMENT.
TYPICALLY, WE SPEND ABOUT $5.3 MILLION PER PROJECT, AND EACH ZONE IS TYPICALLY TWO, MAYBE THREE PROJECTS.
IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT HAS TO BE DONE.
SO THE CURRENT PACKAGE THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR WOULD COVER ABOUT EIGHT DIFFERENT ZONES OVER THOSE TOTAL OF FOUR YEARS.
SO THAT MEANS WE'D BE DOING ABOUT FOUR PROJECTS A YEAR IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO GET, UM, I'M SORRY, WE'D BE DOING 16 PROJECTS TOTAL AND THAT'S HOW WE WOULD GET THROUGH THOSE EIGHT ZONES IN THAT TIMEFRAME.
THIS IS A PICTURE OF THESE ZONES.
UM, WHEN WE, IF YOU EVER LOOK AT OUR COUNCIL AGENDA ITEMS,
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IT'LL SAY WE'RE GOING TO Q4 OR WE'RE GOING TO P THREE.THESE ARE WHAT THESE ITEMS ARE REFERRING TO.
SO ANYTHING THAT HAS A BLACK DATE ON IT, THOSE ARE PLACES THAT WE'VE ALREADY BEEN, AND THAT'S WHEN THE RECENT, UM, PROJECT WAS EITHER COMPLETED OR IT'S CURRENTLY CONSTRUCTION.
SO YOU'LL SEE 24 AND 25 ARE ON THERE.
ANYTHING IN RED ARE LOCATIONS THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN YET, WHICH ARE ALSO HIGHLIGHTED IN THAT BLUE TEAL COLOR.
AND THAT'S THE AVERAGE AGE OF WHEN THAT THE STREETS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WERE INSTALLED.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'VE GOT THOSE REMAINING BLUE AREAS LEFT.
IT ENDS UP BEING A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN EIGHT, BUT SOME OF THEM ARE REALLY NEW AREAS.
UM, FOR INSTANCE, J 11 IS ONE THAT WE ORIGINALLY WERE PLANNING ON GETTING TO OVER THE NEXT YEAR, BUT WHEN WE GO OUT AND DRIVE THAT LOCATION, THE STREETS ARE IN REALLY GREAT CONDITION.
WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF SIDEWALK NEEDS.
SO THOSE ARE ONES THAT WE MIGHT NOT SPEND BOND FUNDING ON.
WE WOULD SEND A DIFFERENT CONTRACTOR OUT THERE TO JUST HIT THOSE AREAS THAT ARE NEEDED.
UM, BUT THIS IS KIND OF OUR MAP OF WHERE WE WOULD BE SPENDING, UH, THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING MOVING FORWARD.
ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSION, ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER LINCOLNFELTER? UH, FOR THE ASPHALT OVERLAYS, UH, YOU SAID ULTRA THE PEN, BUT IS THAT, UH, INCH AND HALF, TWO INCHES? WHAT ARE YOU GUYS ACTUALLY DOING OUT THERE? ULTRA THIN.
SO IT'S, UH, THREE QUARTERS OF AN INCH, ACTUALLY.
UM, SOME SPOTS IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT THICKER.
IT IS VERY ULTRA THIN, AND THAT'S WHY WE STILL HAVE THE CONCRETE UNDERNEATH.
THAT'S WHY I SAY THE EMULSION LAYER THAT GOES DOWN FIRST IS WHAT'S GONNA PROTECT IT FROM ANY OF THE, UH, THE WATER GETTING INTO THE JOINTS OR ANY OF THE CRACKS.
AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, WE PUT THAT AND THAT'S REALLY JUST FOR RIDE QUALITY AND THEN PROTECTING IT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
OUR GOAL IS TO COMPLETE THE, UM, ARTERIALS THAT WE HAVE ON OUR MAP BY 20 OR IN 15 YEARS.
AND BY DOING THAT, WE'LL THEN GO BACK AND WE'LL MILL IT, WE'LL MAKE ANY REPAIRS THAT ARE NEEDED THERE, AND THEN DO ANOTHER OVERLAY ON TOP.
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO EXTEND THE LIFE OF THOSE STREETS AS LONG AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.
I TRAVEL PARKER ROAD QUITE A LOT AND IT'S UNBELIEVABLE.
I I GO OUTTA MY WAY TO DRIVE IT NOW.
WELL, I STILL AVOID CERTAIN PARTS OF PARKER BECAUSE OF, UH, WELL, YOU CAN DRIVE IN THE LEFT LANE.
SO MY, MY QUESTION, UM, I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE LONG-TERM FINANCIAL IMPACT AND REDUCTIONS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE SEEING.
WHAT ARE YOUR ESTIMATES FOR THE LONG-TERM FINANCIAL IMPACT OF THE OVERLAYS, UH, FOR ALL OF OUR CONSTRUCTION COSTS AS IT RELATES TO OUR ROADS? WELL, I LEFT MY CRYSTAL BALL AT HOME, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE'VE BEEN RUNNING THE NUMBERS TO TRY TO COMPARE WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS TO TRYING TO DO THIS.
AND I WAS TRYING TO FIND MY SLIDE THAT I HAVE IN OUR PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT DISCUSSION, BUT ESSENTIALLY BY ADDING THE OVERLAY ON TOP OF IT, MAKING THOSE REPAIRS, WE THINK THAT WE CAN PROLONG THOSE LIFE OF THE STREETS TO THEN DO ANOTHER, UM, MILL AND THEN RE OVERLAY AGAIN BEFORE WE HAVE TO GO BACK IN AND HOPEFULLY DO ANY MAJORS.
WE'RE WATCHING THE ONE ON INDEPENDENCE REALLY CLOSELY.
BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE'VE NOTICED ORIGINALLY OUR PLAN WAS THAT WAS PUT DOWN IN 2017.
WE THOUGHT IN 10 YEARS WE'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND MILL IT AND THEN OVERLAY IT AGAIN.
AND THAT'S WHEN WE WOULD REALLY BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT THAT CONCRETE UNDERNEATH IS LIKE.
UM, WE'RE NOTICING IT'S DOING REALLY WELL, AND SO WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA HAVE OUR SEAL, JOINT SEAL CONTRACTOR GO OUT THERE PROBABLY NEXT YEAR AND GO AND SEAL, THERE'S LONGITUDINAL CRACKING, THERE'S REFLECTIVE CRACKING.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE THAT TAKEN CARE OF AND THEN SEE HOW MUCH LONGER WE CAN GET.
FARMER'S BRANCH HAS BEEN DOING THIS LONGER THAN WE HAVE, UM, AND THEY'VE SEEN REALLY GOOD SUCCESS ON IT, EVEN WHEN WE'VE HAD TO, UM, CUT INTO THE OVERLAY TO DO A WATERLINE REPAIR, YOU POUR BACK THE CONCRETE LEVEL WITH IT AND IT CONTINUES AND MOVES ON.
SO WE THINK WE'RE GONNA SEE GOOD SUCCESS WITH IT, BUT WE'RE KIND OF ONE OF THE PEOPLE LEADING THAT CHARGE.
UM, BUT I DO OVERALL, WHEN WE HAD RUN OUR NUMBERS FOR COMPARISON, WE HAD FOUND, UM, THAT IF WE WERE GONNA DO IT, I THINK IT WAS EVERY 10 YEARS, UM, IT WAS GONNA COST US, I'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT IT AGAIN PER MILE.
IT WAS GONNA BE SIGNIFICANTLY LESS WHEN WE EXTENDED IT OUT TO 15.
SO, BUT I CAN HAVE SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS SHARED IF FEED.
NO, MY MY POINT WAS IS THAT YOU GUYS ARE REALLY NOT ONLY ON THE LEADING EDGE OF THIS STUFF, BUT YOU'RE TAKING VERY SERIOUSLY EVERY TAX DOLLAR THAT WE'RE SPENDING ON THIS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FULLY DRAW OUT AS MUCH TIME OUT OF THESE ROADS BEFORE WE'VE GOTTA GO BACK AND, UM, REDO THE ENTIRE PROCESS.
AND SO I, I'VE, AS I'VE WATCHED THIS, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE BEEN CURIOUS ABOUT IS THE LONG-TERM FINANCIAL IMPACTS THAT IT'S GONNA BRING TO ALL OF PLANO, UM, IN BEING ON THE FRONT EDGE OF THIS.
I WILL SAY WHEN YOU LOOK BACK AT, UM, OUR ORIGINAL ESTIMATES, IF WE'D ARE TO HAVE TO REPLACE THE ENTIRE ROAD NETWORK, ONE MORE, UM, THE COST TO REPLACE THE STREET IN 2020, UM, THE COST TO REPLACE OUR STREET NETWORK, UM, FOR OUR ARTERIALS WOULD'VE BEEN $1.8 BILLION.
IF WE HAD TO GO IN AND REPLACE ALL OF OUR MATERIALS NOW JUST FOUR YEARS LATER, IT'D BE 2.3 BILLION.
SO THOSE REPLACEMENT COSTS ESCALATE CONSISTENTLY AND SO DO REPAIR COSTS, BUT IT'S MUCH MORE FEASIBLE TO BE ABLE TO DO SMALL REPAIRS AND MAKE THOSE REPLACEMENTS AS POSSIBLE.
AND SO THAT WAS MY POINT, IS THAT LONG-TERM COMMITMENT THAT WE'RE MAKING TO
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MAKING THE ROADS NICE AND SMOOTH, AS WELL AS, UM, EXTENDING THE DOLLAR, THE, THE CITIZEN'S DOLLAR THAT'S BEING SPENT THERE.I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS WORKING VERY HARD AT THAT.
WE KNOW THE ROADS ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO ALL OF US SINCE WE WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S A GOOD RIDE QUALITY AS WELL.
COMMISSIONER LEY, I HAVEN'T HAD TO REPLACE TWO TIRES IN THE LAST TWO MONTHS.
CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE OTHER SLIDE THAT THIS SLIDE YOU JUST CAME FROM THAT SHOWED THE 50% WE CONSTRUCTED IN THE 19 HUNDREDS OR WHAT HAVE YOU? THIS PARTICULAR, IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? NO, NO.
ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE RECONSTRUCTION OF IT.
THE 50% WAS CONSTRUCTED LIKE 30 YEARS AGO.
SO IF THIS IS PASSED, UM, YOU KNOW, IT TAKES A YEAR, TWO TO 3, 4, 5 YEARS TO COMPLETELY UTILIZE THIS CAPACITY.
DO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF HOW, WHAT THAT NUMBER BECOMES IN FIVE YEARS? DOES IT BECOME, DO WE EAT INTO 10% OF WHAT IS LEFT FOR THE 30 YEAR STREET NETWORK? UM, SO THE 50% OF STREETS CONSTRUCTED OVER 30 YEARS AGO, UNLESS WE WERE TO COMPLETELY REPLACE A STREET, WE DON'T COUNT THAT.
SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE JUST DOING REPAIRS TO IT.
UM, SO THE STREETS THAT WE'RE CONNECT IN RED, THEY'RE STILL RED IF IT HASN'T BEEN COMPLETELY REPLACED BY ENGINEERING.
AND CALEB, WHEN HE COMES AND TALKS ABOUT STREET REPLACEMENTS, IT'S A VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF STREETS THAT ARE REPLACED IN MILES EVERY YEAR IN THE CITY.
SO THIS NUMBER STILL HOLDS PRETTY CONSISTENTLY BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE THE BANDWIDTH TO REPLACE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF STREETS.
WE'RE JUST DOING REPAIR AND TRYING TO EXTEND THE LIFE OF THAT STREET.
SO DO WE HAVE A, I'M SURE YOU DO HAVE A SENSE OF THE PERCENTAGE OF STREETS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN TOUCHED IN THE LAST 10 YEARS.
SO I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE RECENTLY PULLED SOME NUMBERS TO FIGURE OUT ABOUT HOW MUCH PAVEMENT HAVE WE REPLACED SINCE THE LAST BOND.
AND WE HAVE REPLACED, NOT, I SHOULDN'T SAY REPLACED, WE'VE REPAIRED.
UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL OF THE ROADWAY SEGMENTS, WE HAVE REPAIRED 20% OF THE ROADWAY NETWORK IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS.
AND I KNOW, I THINK EVERYONE THAT LIVES IN THE COMMUNITY HAS FELT THAT WAY.
AND SO WE FEEL THAT THIS BOND PACKAGE IS THE RIGHT BALANCE BETWEEN KEEPING UP WITH THE MAINTENANCE THAT WE NEED TO DO, BUT WITHOUT STRESSING TOO MUCH ON TAKING ON TOO MUCH.
WE TRY NOT TO HAVE TWO PARALLEL ROADS UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT THE SAME TIME.
AND WE TRY NOT TO HAVE, UM, OR TWO MAJOR ARTERIALS UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT THE SAME TIME.
WE, WE DO PAY ATTENTION TO THAT, BUT SOMETIMES, UM, ACQUISITIONS, SOME OF THE EASEMENT CHALLENGES HAPPEN, INTERSECTIONS, THINGS, DELAYS, IT HAPPENS.
JUST SO YOU GUYS REALIZE WE ARE AT THE FINISH LINE.
SO CALEB THORNHILL, DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING.
I APPRECIATE THE TIME TONIGHT.
UM, BUT OBVIOUSLY $700 MILLION IS A VERY IMPORTANT, UH, BOND PACKAGE.
AND SO WE HAVE A LOT TO COVER.
UH, A LOT OF MINE ARE GONNA BE VERY STANDARD FROM THE 21 BOND, AND I'LL WALK THROUGH THOSE.
THERE'S A FEW THAT ARE NEW AND I'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE MORE SPECIFICS ON THAT.
THE FIRST ONE IS ALLEY RECONSTRUCTION.
UH, THIS IS ABOUT SIX MILES OF ALLEY REPLACEMENT.
AS ABBY MENTIONED, ENGINEERING WILL BE INVOLVED WHEN WE'RE COMPLETELY REPLACING THE ASSET.
SO WHETHER IT'S AN ALLEY, A SCREENING WALL, UH, A RESIDENTIAL STREET, A WATERLINE, UH, ABBY'S TEAM WILL DO THE MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR ON THOSE.
IF WE DO HAVE A, A BUST AND A LINE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, UH, EVEN SCREENING WALLS, THEY'LL DO REPAIRS ON THE BRICKS.
BUT IF IT GETS TO A POSITION WHERE IT'S CREATING A SAFETY CHALLENGE, ENGINEERING WILL COME IN AND REPLACE IT.
SO THE NUMBERS YOU'RE SEEING UP HERE ARE THE FULL REPLACEMENT OF AN ALLEY.
UH, THIS IS ONE OF THE NEW ITEMS. WE DID NOT HAVE THIS IN THE 21 BOND PACKAGE.
UH, IN OUR 2023 DESIGN STANDARDS OR STREET DESIGN STANDARDS.
WE ADDED SOME STREETS DOWNTOWN FOR FUTURE CONNECTIVITY TO IMPROVE THE FLOW DOWNTOWN.
AND SO AS A PART OF THAT, WE HAVE ADDED FUNDING TO RESERVE IN CASE THOSE AREAS SHOULD REDEVELOP.
UH, THERE'S A COUPLE REASONS FOR THAT.
ONE, UH, IF WE DO NOT HAVE THAT FUNDING AND SET ASIDE, STATE LEGISLATURE RECENTLY CHANGED THAT WE CANNOT REQUIRE THE DEDICATION OF THOSE.
AND WE FEEL LIKE A LOT OF THESE LOCATIONS ARE VERY CRITICAL WITH THE, UH, WALKABILITY, THE, UH, THE REDEVELOPMENT DIVISION OF DOWNTOWN.
SO THIS IS A, ESSENTIALLY IT'S A SET ASIDE FUNDING IN CASE SOME OF THESE AREAS DEVELOP.
WE CAN REQUEST THAT THE RIGHT OF WAY, UH, BE DEDICATED, UH, BUT WE WILL ALSO BE PAYING FOR THAT RIGHT OF WAY RESERVATION AND THE NEW INFRASTRUCTURE THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT PROJECT.
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UH, BRIDGE REPAIR REPLACEMENT.THIS IS A, UM, AN ITEM THAT WE USE EVERY YEAR.
UH, A LOT OF OUR BRIDGE REPAIRS ARE SOMETIMES SEEN UNDERNEATH THE BRIDGE.
IF WE HAVE EROSION, UH, IF WE HAVE IMPROVEMENTS THAT NEED TO OCCUR TO GUARDRAILS, UH, THAT IMPROVEMENTS TO THE SLABS, UH, IT CAN BE THE REPLACEMENT OF A BRIDGE.
UH, THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE SHILOH BRIDGE THAT WE DID A FULL REPLACEMENT OF THAT.
UH, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR ON THE EAST SIDE, WE ADDED THE ADDITIONAL LANES, BUT WE HAD TO COMPLETELY REPLACE THE BRIDGE.
IT WAS NOT ADEQUATE DUE TO OUR, UH, DRAINAGE STANDARDS THAT HAD CHANGED OVER TIME.
AND THE BRIDGE WAS VERY OLD, SO WE DID A FULL REPLACEMENT OF THAT LOCATION.
UH, WE'RE ADDING CAPACITY OR, UH, CONGESTION RELIEF, UH, OR THERE'S A SAFETY CONCERN AT THOSE LOCATIONS.
SO A LOT OF THE TIMES WE'LL SEE ADDITION OF, UH, DUAL LEFT TURNS, UH, RIGHT TURN LANES.
UH, FOR THOSE TWO PRIMARY REASONS.
THE THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES WITH THESE IS THEY'RE AT THE INTERSECTIONS OF ARTERIAL STREETS, AND THERE'S A LOT OF UTILITIES AT EVERY ONE OF THOSE CORNERS.
UH, AND WHEN WE'RE ADDING, UH, RIGHT OF WAY AND CAPACITY, EXPANDING THE ROADWAY TO GET THOSE UTILITIES RELOCATED AND TO AVOID HITTING THEM, THEY TAKE TIME.
AND AS ABBY MENTIONED EARLIER, A LOT OF COORDINATION WITH HER TEAM ON THE OVERLAYS.
UH, LEGACY IS ONE WE'VE HAD ACTIVE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, AND WE'RE ACTUALLY OUT THERE CONSTRUCTING IT.
UH, WE'VE, THIS IS THE PICTURE OF LEGACY AND INDEPENDENCE.
UH, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE MORE WITH THAT PROJECT.
UH, BUT THIS IS FOR $8 MILLION, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE EIGHT LOCATIONS, ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS OF LOCATION OVER THE NEXT, UH, BOND PACKAGE, RESIDENTIAL AND COLLECTOR STREET RECONSTRUCTION.
AGAIN, SIMILAR TO VERY, UH, VERY SIMILAR TO ALLEYS.
THIS IS A FULL REPLACEMENT OF THE STREET.
UM, IT WILL GO FROM RIGHT AWAY TO RIGHT AWAY.
SO IT'LL ALSO INCLUDE SIDEWALK.
UH, A LOT OF OUR OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS, THE A DA STANDARDS ARE OUTDATED.
UH, THE STREET HAS DETERIORATED, SO WE ARE GOING IN AND DOING FULL REPLACEMENTS OF THOSE.
I TOUCHED ON, UH, LIKE I MENTIONED, ABBY'S TEAM WILL DO REPAIRS ON SCREENING WALLS IF THE BRICKS ARE FALLING.
UH, IT'S ENGINEERING WILL COME IN IF THERE IS A SAFETY CONCERN, IF THE FOUNDATION'S NOT APPROPRIATE.
A LOT OF THESE BALLS WERE BUILT, UH, BY DEVELOPERS YEARS AND YEARS AGO, AND THEY DIDN'T USE THE RIGHT PEERS.
SO WE'RE PUTTING IN NEW PEERS AT THESE LOCATIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY, HOPEFULLY THEY DON'T EVER FALL.
AND SIDEWALKS, UH, IT'S A GREAT PICTURE.
WE ARE ADDING A NEW SIDEWALK ALONG PLANO PARKWAY, UH, ON THE WEST SIDE OF ALMA.
UH, BUT THIS IS FOR THE, UH, EITHER THE RECONSTRUCTION OF A SIDEWALK OR FILLING IN VOIDS OR GAPS WHERE WE DON'T HAVE SIDEWALK BUT NEEDED TODAY.
UM, WE'VE HAD A HUGE INITIATIVE OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS.
WE HAD FUNDING IN THE 21 BOND, AND WE'VE, UH, STARTED BIDDING THOSE PROJECTS OUT.
UH, THIS IS FOR ESSENTIALLY A FULL REPLACEMENT OF OUR TRAFFIC SIGNAL, UH, NETWORK.
UH, THE CABINET HERE, YOU SEE IN THE PICTURE, THERE'S ALSO COMPONENTS OF THAT CALLED A CONTROLLER THAT WE'RE REPLACING.
UH, WE'VE INVESTED IN THE PAST IN OUR TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT CENTER, WHICH IS UPSTAIRS HERE AT CITY HALL.
UH, WE'RE INVESTING IN FIBER, WHICH WILL PROVIDE BETTER CONNECTIONS TO THE SIGNALS AND, UH, GIVE US MORE EYES ON THE, THE FIELD, UH, BUT BETTER, UM, COMMUNICATION WITH THOSE LOCATIONS.
ALSO, UH, CCTV CAMERAS, UH, VEHICLE DETECTION UPGRADES, JUST A A, A MASSIVE UPGRADE THAT'S BEEN LONG OVERDUE FOR OUR SIGNAL NETWORK SYSTEM.
THE LAST ONE, THIS IS ANOTHER NEW ITEM.
UM, AND WE'VE, THIS IS ONE THAT WE'VE COORDINATED WITH, UH, ABBY OWENS, THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS.
UH, I HEARD THE PARKER ROAD TERM USED EARLIER.
THAT WAS AN ENGINEERING PROJECT.
UH, AND IT, IT MAY NOT BE COMPLETELY EVIDENT, BUT THAT WAS A WATER REHAB PROJECT.
SO ABBY'S TEAM, BEFORE THEY DO A A SIGNIFICANT OVERLAY, WE WILL DO A REPLACEMENT OF THE UTILITIES IF THEY'RE, UH, OUTDATED.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE.
THAT'S WHAT WATER OR PARKER WAS.
WE HAD TO REPLACE THAT WATERLINE.
WE'RE DOING THE EXACT SAME THING RIGHT NOW ON PARK BOULEVARD.
AND WHAT WE'VE REALIZED WITH A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS IS THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF STREET WORK THAT GOES ALONG WITH A WATER REHAB.
UM, AND SO THE ABILITY TO FUND THAT STREET REPAIR FROM THE STREET, UH, FUND, UH, INSTEAD OF USING WATER, IT ALLOWS US TO STRETCH THAT WATER FUND EVEN FURTHER.
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UH, WATERLINE REPLACEMENTS THAT WE DO IN NEIGHBORHOODS OR ALONG ARTERIALS.UH, BUT WE CAN FUND THE STREET REPLACEMENT, UH, WITH THIS.
AND THAT MIGHT BE, UH, I GOT SOME ANIMATION.
I, UNLESS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR ME, I DO HAVE A QUESTION REAL QUICK.
IF YOU GO BACK TO THE DOWNTOWN RIGHT OF WAY SLIDE.
AND IT WAS REALLY EARLY IN YOUR PRESENTATION, BUT I YOU WERE ON A ROLL, SO I DIDN'T WANT TO INTERRUPT YOU.
SO WE HAVE JUST GONE THROUGH THE SILVER LINE DOWNTOWN VISIONING PROCESS.
UM, I I, I WANT TO ASSUME JUST BY LOOKING AT THE MAP AND MY KNOWLEDGE OF THAT PLAN, THAT THIS HAS BEEN COORDINATED WITH SOME OF THE MASTER PLAN GOALS FOR THAT REDEVELOPMENT, SPECIFICALLY SOUTH OF 14TH.
SO IS, IS THAT JUST FROM WHAT I CAN TELL FROM HERE, UM, IT LOOKS LIKE THAT YOU'VE, YOU'VE ACCOMMODATED SOME OF THAT, BUT I GUESS THAT'S MORE OF A QUESTION.
HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THE SILVER LINE PLAN AND COORDINATED YOUR DOWNTOWN RIGHT OF WAY RESERVATIONS WITH THAT GUIDING DOCUMENT? YEAH, SO THIS IS AN EXCERPT FROM OUR 2023 STREET DESIGN MANUAL.
SO OBVIOUSLY IT ENCOMPASSED THE SILVER LINE PLAN, THE 12TH STREET, THE AERIAL, UH, LOCATE OR STATION.
UH, SO IT DID INCLUDE THE, THE SILVER LINE PLAN FOR DOWNTOWN.
SO IF THAT'S, IF THAT'S THE QUESTION.
JUST MAKE SURE THAT THIS HAS BEEN UPDATED.
'CAUSE WE JUST ADOPTED THAT PLAN FAIRLY RECENTLY THAT, THAT Y'ALL HAD UPDATED IT WITH THE FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS OF THAT REPORT.
IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE.
I DON'T KNOW, IS THERE, MIKE, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD TO THAT? UM, I'LL SAY IT'S SOMEWHAT THE OPPOSITE.
THE SILVER LINE PLAN INCORPORATES THESE IMPROVEMENTS.
'CAUSE THEY WERE DONE RECENTLY IN THE STUDY OF DOWNTOWN.
SO SILVER LINE, WHICH WILL COME BACK TO YOU AT THE NEXT MEETING, HAS KEPT THIS PLAN IN MIND.
SO BOTTOM LINE IS THEY'RE COORDINATED.
SO A COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS ON BRIDGES.
WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON ABOUT BRIDGES AND THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES IN 2022 REPORTED THAT TWO OUT OF EVERY THREE BRIDGES ACROSS THE UNITED STATES IS IN POOR CONDITION.
WHAT WOULD YOU SAY ARE THE CONDITIONS OF OUR BRIDGES? UM, SO, LIKE I SAID, WE DO A BRIDGE REPAIR OR, OR, UM, REPLA NOT A REPLACEMENT, A BRIDGE REPAIR PROJECT EVERY YEAR.
UH, NOW WHAT WE WILL DO IS WE'LL DO A DESIGN PORTION ONE YEAR, AND THEN THE NEXT YEAR WE'LL DO A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
BUT WHILE WE'RE DOING THAT CONSTRUCTION, WE'RE STARTING DESIGN ON THE NEXT ONE.
TXDOT PRODUCES A REPORT, IT'S CALLED A BRIN SAP REPORT.
AND DON'T GET ME LINE WHAT THE BRIN SAP ACRONYM STANDS FOR, BUT THEY ESSENTIALLY DO A INVENTORY AND A, UM, UH, EXAMINATION OR INSPECTION OF ALL OF OUR BRIDGES THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF PLANO.
SO WE TAKE THAT AND THEN WE WILL PULL FROM IT WHAT THE MOST CRITICAL LOCATIONS THAT NEED REPAIRS AND PUT TOGETHER A LIST OF THESE PROJECTS.
UH, SOME OF THEM ARE, I WOULD SAY, SOMEWHAT MINOR.
YOU KNOW, A, THEY WILL RATE THAT IF A GUARDRAIL IS MISSING ON A BRIDGE, UH, THAT IS, IT IS A HUGE SAFETY CONCERN.
SO THE BRIDGE IS NOT IN DANGER OF FALLING.
BUT IF A GUARDRAILS MISSING, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A SAFETY ISSUE.
UM, AS FAR AS THE ANSWER TO OUR CONDITION OF OUR BRIDGES, I WOULD SAY PLANO IS STILL A RELATIVELY YOUNG CITY.
SO THE MAJORITY OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS SOMEWHERE IN THAT 30, 40 SOME INSTANCES, 50 YEARS.
I WOULDN'T SAY OUR BRIDGES ARE IN POOR CONDITION.
I WOULD SAY THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE IS THE BRIDGES, DEPENDING ON THE LOCATION IS THE, UH, STORM DRAINAGE AND WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S SCOUR EROSION, UH, BELOW THE BRIDGE.
BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY IS THE BRIDGE DESIGNED AT AN ADEQUATE HEIGHT.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE RAN INTO SHILOH.
SHILOH, WE HAD TO RAISE THAT BRIDGE.
THE BRIDGE ITSELF WAS ADEQUATE.
OBVIOUSLY IT NEEDED TO BE WIDENED, UH, BUT WE HAD TO RAISE THAT BRIDGE BECAUSE OF THE, UH, CREEK AND THE STORM DRAINAGE.
AND SO USING OUR NEW STANDARDS AND THE NEW DATA TODAY, WE'VE GOT SOME ADJUSTMENTS.
WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME OTHER LOCATIONS AS WELL.
SO, SECOND QUESTION IS, UM, IN ADDITION TO ALL THAT CONVERSATION, I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF TALK ABOUT A LOT OF DIFFERENT DOLLARS AND, UH, THE, ARE ALL OF OUR BRIDGES IN PLANO FUNDED THROUGH THINGS LIKE THIS? OR DO WE SEE ANY STATE OR FEDERAL DOLLARS THAT COME IN TO HELP THAT AS WELL? SO SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, WHICH HAS JUST BEEN OVER 10 YEARS, THE MAJORITY OF 'EM ARE FUNDED THROUGH OUR BOND PACKAGE.
WE DO HAVE A PROJECT THAT'S ACTIVE THAT TXDOT IS FUNDING.
IT'S A, A BRIDGE ALONG PARKER, AND IT'S ACTUALLY A BOX CULVERT, BUT THEY TREAT, DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF A BOX CULVERT, THEY'LL TREAT IT AS A BRIDGE CLASS CULVERT.
UH, THAT IS THE FIRST ONE THAT I'VE HAD FUNDED OUTSIDE OF OUR BOND.
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A QUESTION.JUST MY INNER PERNICKETY FLARING UP ON THE WATER MAIN SLIDE.
I THINK YOU HAVE THE SAME WORD IN FOR YOUR DESCRIPTION AS THE BRIDGE SLIDE.
SOMEBODY MIGHT JUST A COPY AND PASTE IT WRONG.
SHOW ME WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SO I CAN GET IT FIXED.
YEAH, THAT'S TALKING ABOUT BRIDGES AND THE COMMENTARY, REHABILITATION AND RECONSTRUCTION.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION? NOBODY.
DO WE HAVE ANY, ANYBODY ELSE TO PRESENT, KAREN? AND THAT WILL WRAP US UP.
SO WITH THAT PRESENTATION, STAFF RECOMMENDS FOR APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, FINDING THAT THE PROPOSED 2025 BOND REFERENDUM ITEMS ARE IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE POLICIES AND ACTIONS OF THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? ALL RIGHT.
I AM GOING TO TAKE THE LIBERTY TO MAKE THE MOTION MYSELF THAT THE COMMISSION FINDS THAT THE PROPOSED, UH, 2025 BOND REFERENDUM ITEMS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS, POLICIES, AND ACTIONS FOR FACILITY AND INFRASTRUCTURE MANAGEMENT.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSION, NOBODY.
AND THAT PASSES EIGHT TO ZERO.
APPRECIATE Y'ALL HANGING OUT WITH US.
AND, UM, COMMISSION, WHY DON'T WE TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK AND WE'LL COME BACK AND HANDLE THE LAST TWO ITEMS. FIVE MINUTES PLEASE.
SORRY I PUT Y'ALL OFF TILL THE END, BUT, UH, I PROBABLY, I'M SORRY I HAD AN INCONVENIENCE TO THE THREE OF Y'ALL FOR EVERYBODY ELSE, BUT, UH, I'M SURE THEY'LL APPRECIATE YOU TOMORROW.
YOU KNOW, WE GOT SUGAR COOKIES LEFT OVER.
[Items 3A. & 3B.]
ALL RIGHT, LET'S, UM, CHRISTIE, LET'S DROP BACK TO ITEM THREE A IF YOU WOULD PLEASE.AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE, A PUBLIC HEARING ZONING CASE, 2 0 2 4 DASH 0 2 5.
REQUEST TO AMEND THE TEXT OF ARTICLE 11 OVERLAY DISTRICTS ARTICLE 15.
USE SPECIFIC REGULATIONS AND RELATED SECTIONS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE TO ADD A NEW EXPRESSWAY CORRIDOR OVERLAY DISTRICT, WHICH WILL APPLY THE SAME BOUNDARY DELINEATIONS FROM THE EXPRESSWAY CORRIDOR ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH MAP IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO DESCRIBE THE NEW BOUNDARY DE DE DELINEATIONS FOR THE EXPRESSWAY CORRIDOR OVERLAY DISTRICT ON THE ZONING MAP.
PETITIONER CITY OF PLANO, THIS ITEM IS FOR LEGISLATIVE CONSIDERATION.
WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO YEAH, GO AHEAD AND READ THREE B AS WELL, PLEASE.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE B, COMPREHENSIVE PUBLIC HEARING.
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT 2 0 2 4 DASH 0 0 1 REQUEST TO AMEND THE ECONOMIC ENVIRONMENT PILLAR, REGIONALISM PILLAR AND OTHER COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ACTIONS.
AND TO REMOVE THE EXPRESSWAY CORRIDOR ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH MAP AND GUIDELINES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN APP.
THIS ITEM IS FOR LEGISLATIVE CONSIDERATION.
SO I'M, UH, JORDAN ROCKERY, SENIOR PLANNER IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
I'LL BE PRESENTING ON THE ZONING CASE, WHICH IS ITEM THREE A.
UH, AFTER MY PRESENTATION, UH, MIRIAM ZAHIR WILL BE PRESENTING ITEM THREE B, WHICH IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CASE.
SO THE REQUEST TONIGHT IS TO UPDATE THE ZONING ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS FOR DEVELOPMENT WITHIN EXPRESSWAY CORRIDORS.
AND THERE ARE CORRESPONDING UPDATES TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UM, REGARDING THE CURRENT EXPRESSWAY CORRIDOR, ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH AREA GUIDELINES AND MAP.
SO I WAS HERE ABOUT A MONTH AGO, UM, FOR THE CALL FOR PUBLIC HEARING ON THE, UM, EHA IN THAT, UH, I DETAILED SOME OF THE HISTORY AND THE CURRENT REGULATIONS.
I'M GONNA GO OVER THOSE VERY BRIEFLY TONIGHT SINCE IT WAS IN RECENT MEMORY THAT I WAS HERE.
SO PLANO DOES HAVE A LONG STANDING POLICY FOCUSED ON LIMITING RESIDENTIAL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE EXPRESSWAY CORRIDOR AREAS.
INITIALLY, THAT WAS JUST A, UH, SETBACK ALONG HIGHWAY 1 21.
AND THAT WAS LATER EXPANDED TO THE, UH, OTHER EXPRESSWAYS IN THE CITY.
THE PRIMARY OBJECTIVES OF THAT WAS TO PRESERVE VACANT LAND FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AS
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WELL AS PROTECT THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR RESIDENTS.THE CURRENT POLICY, UH, IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE ZONING ORDINANCE, UM, WAS ADOPTED BASED ON A 2019 STUDY.
UM, AS A RESULT OF THAT, A MAP GUIDELINES AND GOAL WERE PLACED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND THERE WERE SOME REQUIREMENTS FOR DEVELOPMENT, UH, PLACED IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN GUIDELINES APPLY TO THE REVIEW OF ZONING CASES AND THE MITIGATION REQUIREMENTS IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE APPLY FOR A SITE PLAN REVIEW.
SO THERE ARE, UH, SIX MITIGATION STRATEGIES, UH, OUTLINED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THESE ARE ALL SUGGESTED, AND THE COMP PLAN DOES SUGGEST A COMBINATION OF MITIGATION STRATEGIES TO ACHIEVE THE GOAL, UM, OF, UH, NOISE MITIGATION IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
THREE OF THESE ARE REQUIRED MITIGATION STRATEGIES, AND THESE ONLY APPLY TO, UH, CERTAIN LAND USES AS LISTED IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
THE APPLICANT WAS A OR IS ABLE TO SUGGEST OTHER MITIGATION STRATEGIES THROUGH THE SUBMISSION OF AN EHA SITE ANALYSIS.
UH, THAT SITE ANALYSIS IS REQUIRED FOR ALL ZONING APPLICATIONS INVOLVING A SENSITIVE LAND USE WITHIN, UH, THE EXPRESSWAY CORRIDORS.
THE PURPOSE OF THAT ANALYSIS IS TO CONFIRM THE EXISTING NOISE EXPOSURE, PROPOSE MITIGATION STRATEGIES TO ACHIEVE, UM, THE TARGET OF 65 DECIBELS, LDN AT EXTERIOR OF SENSITIVE LAND USES, AND TO PROJECT THE ANTICIPATED FUTURE NOISE EXPOSURE BOTH WITH AND WITHOUT THE PROPOSED MITIGATION STRATEGIES.
SO, SO FAR THERE HAVE BEEN NINE ZONING CASES, UH, PRESENTED TO THIS COMMISSION THAT HAVE BEEN SUBJECT TO THE EHA GUIDELINES AND REQUIREMENTS.
UM, MOST OF THOSE HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO MEET THE POLICY GOAL, BUT HAVE SUGGESTED OTHER MITIGATION STRATEGIES TO COMPLY WITH THE INTENT OF THE GOAL.
A LOT OF THESE HAVE BEEN SIMILAR BUT NOT IDENTICAL MITIGATION STRATEGIES.
AND SO THROUGH THIS, UH, REQUESTED AMENDMENT, WE DO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO STANDARDIZE THE MITIGATION STRATEGIES ACROSS PROJECTS.
SO THESE UPDATES ARE PROPOSED TO RECENTER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS A GOAL OF THE POLICY.
IT HAS BEEN SOMEWHAT LOST AND OVERSHADOWED BY THE FOCUS ON QUALITY OF LIFE, WHICH REMAINS AN IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION.
THE UPDATES ARE ALSO PROPOSED TO SIMPLIFY THE REVIEW PROCESS FOR DEVELOPMENT, STRENGTHEN AND STANDARDIZE THE MITIGATION REQUIREMENTS AND IMPROVE THE TRANSPARENCY OF THIS REVIEW PROCESS.
SO FOR COMP PLAN CHANGES, UM, THE EXPRESSO CORRIDOR ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH MAP AS IT CURRENTLY EXISTS, WOULD BE TAKEN OUT OF THE COMP PLAN, AND ON THE GUIDELINES WOULD ALSO BE TAKEN OUT OF THE COMP PLAN.
THERE WOULD BE CORRESPONDING CHANGES THROUGHOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, SWITCHING CURRENT REFERENCES TO THE EXPRESSWAY CORRIDOR ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH MAP TO INSTEAD REFER TO REFER TO THE EXPRESSWAY CORRIDOR HEALTH STUDY THAT WAS DONE IN 2019.
SO THAT MAP WOULD BE REPLACED WITH, UH, AN OVERLAY DISTRICT IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
UM, THE TWO, UM, AREAS WOULD BE RENAMED, SO EHA ONE, WHICH IS THE LESS RESTRICTIVE, WOULD BECOME THE CONDITIONAL EXPRESSWAY CORRIDOR OVERLAY AREA.
AND THE MORE RESTRICTIVE WOULD BE THE RESTRICTED EXPRESSWAY CORRIDOR AREA.
UM, THERE ARE NO PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE BOUNDARIES AT THIS TIME, AND THAT WOULD REQUIRE A NEW STUDY, AND THAT WOULD BE A FURTHER BUDGET ASK.
SO IT'S NOT PART OF THIS, UM, AMENDMENT TONIGHT.
SO THIS WOULD BE THE RESULTING MAP.
IT'S THE SAME AS THE CURRENT MAP AND THE COMP PLAN.
BUT AGAIN, WITH JUST RENAMED AREAS, AND IT WOULD BE A ZONING OVERLAY DISTRICT, THERE WOULD BE SLIGHT CHANGES TO THE PROPOSED, UH, LISTED SENSITIVE LAND USES.
UM, IN ORDER TO TARGET THE REGULATIONS TO THE USES THAT ARE MOST IMPACTED BY NOISE, THESE ARE RESIDENTIAL USES.
SO THE ZONING ORDINANCE CURRENTLY HAS REQUIREMENTS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF MULTIFAMILY DWELLINGS AND LARGE INSTITUTIONAL.
SO, UM, CONTINUING CARE FACILITIES, ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES, THOSE, UH, TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS, THOSE ARE CURRENTLY, UM, PROTECTED IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS AND TWO FAMILY DWELLINGS ARE SUBJECT TO THE CURRENT COMP PLAN REQUIREMENTS, BUT THEY WOULD BE ADDED AS LISTED USES IN THESE ZONING ORDINANCE WITHIN THAT RESTRICTED, UM, ECA.
NONE OF THESE LISTED USES WOULD BE PERMITTED.
IT WOULD BE SOLELY, UH, NON-RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
IN TERMS OF THE, UM, DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS THAT WOULD BE IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE, UH, I'VE GROUPED THEM INTO THREE CATEGORIES ON, UM, AIR QUALITY, NOISE AND SEPARATION.
SO FOR AIR QUALITY MITIGATION, THERE WOULD BE A NEW REQUIREMENT TO PROVIDE, UM, AIR FILTRATION OF MERV 13 OR HIGHER,
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AND WE WOULD MAINTAIN THE EXISTING REQUIREMENT THAT THOSE BE DUCTED, UM, TO THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE EXPRESSWAY FROM THE BUILDING.UM, I WILL NOTE THAT THIS WOULD ONLY APPLY TO THE MULTIFAMILY AND INSTITUTIONAL DWELLINGS.
IT WOULD NOT APPLY TO THE SINGLE FAMILY AND DUPLEX USES JUST 'CAUSE WE WANT TO MAINTAIN THE FLEXIBILITY FOR THEIR LOT LAYOUT OF WHERE THEY'RE LOCATING ANY, UM, SORT OF AIR FILTRATION SYSTEMS FOR NOISE MITIGATION.
UM, THIS IS A BRAND NEW REQUIREMENT, UM, TO HAVE IMPROVED CONSTRUCTION TO ACHIEVE A MAXIMUM, UM, INTERIOR NOISE LEVEL OF 45.
ALMOST ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT CAME BEFORE US HAD THIS AS A PROPOSED MITIGATION STRATEGY.
SO THIS IS, UM, ENSHRINING THAT IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE FOR, UH, SEPARATION OF LAND USES.
THIS, UH, IS BROKEN OUT INTO TWO DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.
ONE FOR, UM, DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE WITHIN 500 FEET OF AN EXPRESSWAY, AND ONE FOR DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE MORE THAN 500 FEET OF AN EXPRESSWAY.
UH, 500 WAS CHOSEN AS THIS WAS A FIGURE FROM THAT STUDY WHERE, UM, AFTER 500 FEET, THAT'S WHERE THERE WAS A NOTICEABLE, UH, DECLINE IN MOST AIRBORNE, UH, PARTICULATE MATTER.
SO WITHIN 500 FEET, UM, IT'S A MODIFIED REQUIREMENT.
CURRENTLY, THERE IS A HARD REQUIREMENT THAT A, UM, NON-RESIDENTIAL BUILDING OR STRUCTURE BE CONSTRUCTED BETWEEN THE LISTED USE AND EXPRESSWAY.
WE WOULD HAVE THAT AS ONE OPTION.
ALTERNATIVELY, THEY COULD PROVIDE A 100 FOOT LANDSCAPE EDGE WITH A LANDSCAPED BERM FOR DEVELOPMENT MORE THAN 500 FEET FROM THE EXPRESSWAY.
THIS IS, UM, ADDED FROM WHAT, UH, WE PRESENTED AT THE LAST MEETING.
UH, TO RECOGNIZE THAT OUR CURRENT EA OR ECA BOUNDARIES DO INCLUDE OUR DART LINES AND OUR RAIL LINES, WHICH ARE NOT NEAR EXPRESSWAYS, AND SO MAY NOT NEED THE SAME LEVEL OF PROTECTION, UM, FROM PARTIC FROM AIRBORNE PARTICULATES.
SO IN THIS CASE, UM, THEY WOULD NOT BE REQUIRED TO HAVE A BUILDING BETWEEN THE SENSITIVE LAND USE AND THE NOISE SOURCE.
THEY WOULD JUST BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE A MINIMUM 15 FOOT LANDSCAPE EDGE.
AND THAT LANDSCAPE EDGE IS A CURRENT REQUIREMENT THAT, UM, APPLIES ACROSS ALL LAND USES.
ONE THING THAT HAS BEEN ADDED, UM, BACK IN SINCE I WAS LAST HERE, WAS THE ABILITY FOR THE COMMISSION TO WAIVE REQUIREMENTS.
UM, THERE IS A STIPULATION THAT THE WAIVER MUST BE BASED ON, UM, A FINDING THAT THERE IS SUFFICIENT NOISE AND, UM, AIR FILTRATION MITIGATION PROVIDED, UM, BY THE APPLICANT.
WE'VE ALSO ADDED THE CLARIFICATION THAT NONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THIS SECTION CAN BE VARIED BY THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.
SO EITHER THE APPLICANT IS FOLLOWING THE REQUIREMENTS OR THEY'RE RECEIVING A WAIVER FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
SO WE HAD ALSO CHATTED ABOUT, UH, PARKING GARAGES AT THE LAST MEETING.
UM, AND THE CONCERN WITH ENCOURAGING THE USE OF PARKING GARAGES TO SCREEN BUILDINGS AND HAVING THEM, UH, PLACED, UH, CLOSE TO ROADWAYS, UM, SINCE THE HIGH VISIBILITY OF THE STRUCTURES CAN IMPACT THE, UH, STREET SCAPE AND THE QUALITY OF DEVELOPMENT.
SO THERE'S FIVE, UM, SUGGESTED REQUIREMENTS.
THESE WOULD APPLY TO ALL PARKING GARAGES THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
UH, SOME OF THESE ARE PULLED FROM EXISTING REQUIREMENTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS DESIGN DISTRICT AND BD.
SOME OF THEM ARE NEW REQUIREMENTS.
WE HAVE MODIFIED THESE BASED ON THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD WITH THE COMMISSION AT THE LAST MEETING, AND THAT IS ALL NOTED IN THE PACKET.
SO TO SUMMARIZE THE CHANGES TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND THE EHA PORTION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UM, THERE'S UPDATES TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE PROPOSED TO CREATE A NEW OVERLAY DISTRICT, CHANGE THE, UM, LISTED USES, AND ADD SOME REQUIREMENTS FOR DEVELOPMENT IN THOSE AREAS.
AND ALSO TO INTRODUCE CITYWIDE REQUIREMENTS FOR PARKING GARAGES AND FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UM, IT'D BE TO REMOVE THE EHM MAP AND GUIDELINES FROM THE COMP PLAN AND TO UPDATE THE REFERENCES THROUGHOUT THE PLAN TO REFER INSTEAD TO THE STUDY.
AND I'LL NOW PASS OFF TO YOU, MIRIAM.
MY NAME IS MIRIAM ZAHIR PLANNER WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
UH, MY PORTION OF THE PRESENTATION, WE'LL COVER THE OTHER COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS OUTSIDE OF THE EHA ITEMS. UM, BEFORE I JUMP INTO
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THE SPECIFICS, I JUST WANTED TO COVER, UM, THE ITEMS THAT HAVE COME BEFORE THIS COMMISSION EARLIER THIS YEAR.SO ON MAY 20TH, WE PRESENTED THE CALL FOR PUBLIC HEARING AND ALSO IDENTIFY THE SCOPE OF THIS YEAR'S REVIEW.
ON JUNE 17TH, WE PRESENTED THE ECONOMIC ENVIRONMENT PILLAR UPDATES, UM, AND DOUG MCDONALD, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, WAS ALSO PRESENT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMISSION HAD, BUT ALSO WAS THERE IN SUPPORT OF THE RECOMMENDED UPDATES.
ON JULY 15TH, WE PRESENTED THE REGIONALISM PILLAR AND SOME OTHER MISCELLANEOUS ACTION UPDATES, AND I'LL KIND OF GO MORE IN DEPTH WITH THAT.
AND THIS EVENING WE'RE HERE FOR THE, UM, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT RGM SEVEN OR REDEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT POLICY ACTION SEVEN.
UM, PROVIDES GUIDANCE TO REVIEW THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN EVERY TWO YEARS TO ENSURE CONSISTENCY WITH CITYWIDE GOALS AND RESPOND TO DEVELOPMENT TRENDS AND CHANGING CONDITIONS.
ALTHOUGH RGM SEVEN PROVIDES DIRECTION TO REVIEW THE COMP PLAN EVERY TWO YEARS, STAFF HAS DEVELOPED A TENURE YEAR REVIEW SCHEDULE TO ANNUALLY REVIEW VARIOUS MAPS AND PILLARS IN MORE MANAGEABLE SECTIONS.
UM, THE 2024 REVIEW IS HIGHLIGHTED HERE.
AND THEN THOSE ITEMS INCLUDE THE ECONOMIC ENVIRONMENT, PILLAR REGIONALISM, PILLAR EXPRESSWAY, CORRIDOR, ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH MAP AND GUIDELINES, AND OTHER COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ACTIONS.
AND THOSE OTHER COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ACTION UPDATES ARE A RESULT OF END OF YEAR FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED FROM DEPARTMENTS WHO HAVE A LEAD ROLE IN IMPLEMENTING THESE ACTIONS.
AND THEN ALSO, WE ARE INCORPORATING PLANO AT MATURITY, UM, RETAINED ACTIONS.
I JUST WANT TO ALSO COVER THAT THE UPDATES BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING ARE TWO KIND OF SEPARATE UPDATES.
UM, SOME ARE ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATES AND THAT'S JUST UPDATES TO FACTS AND FIGURES OR MINOR, MINOR STATISTICAL UPDATES.
AND THEN THE SECOND SET ARE UPDATES THAT REQUIRE A PLAN AMENDMENT, UM, AND INCLUDE CHANGES TO POLICIES, ACTION, VISION STATEMENTS, GUIDING PRINCIPLES, MAPS, DASHBOARDS.
UM, I DO JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT THAT THE UPDATES THAT WE ARE PRESENTING THIS EVENING ARE MINOR UPDATES.
UM, AND THESE ARE NOT MAJOR UPDATES.
MAJOR UPDATES WOULD BE MORE POLICY DIRECTION CHANGES.
UM, BUT THESE ARE MORE UPDATES RELATED TO, UM, IMPLEMENTATION.
THE ECONOMIC ENVIRONMENT PILLAR IS COMPRISED OF TWO COMPONENTS, WHICH INCLUDE TWO POLICIES AND A TOTAL OF 11 ACTIONS AS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN STAFFED WORK CLOSELY WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT IN REVIEWING THIS PILLAR, AND AS I MENTIONED, WE PRESENTED THESE WITH, UM, DOUG MCDONALD ON JUNE 17TH.
NOTE THAT THERE ARE UPDATES PROPOSED TO THE COMPONENT BACKGROUND, BOTH POLICY BACKGROUNDS AND STATEMENTS, AND FIVE EXISTING ACTIONS.
AND ONE NEW ACTION IS PROPOSED, AND I'LL COVER THIS FURTHER ON IN THE PRESENTATION.
BUT THE ONE NEW PROPOSED, UM, NEW ACTION INCORPORATES TWO PLATO AT MATURITY ACTIONS THAT WERE RETAINED.
THE REGIONALISM PILLARS COMPRISED OF ONE COMPONENT, SIX POLICIES, AND A TOTAL OF 31 ACTIONS.
STAFF WORKED CLOSELY TO REVIEW, UM, THIS PILLAR WITH VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS WHO HAD A LEAD ROLE IN IMPLEMENTING IT.
WE PRESENTED THIS ON JULY 15TH AND SOUGHT THE COMMISSION'S DIRECTION.
UM, THERE ARE UPDATES PROPOSED TO THE COMPONENT BACKGROUND, POLICY, BACKGROUND AND STATEMENTS OF SOME, BUT NOT ALL OF THE POLICIES AND 16 ACTIONS.
SO THE OTHER COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATES ARE OUTLINED ON THE SCREEN.
AND THOSE WITHIN ASTRO, UM, RELATE TO THE PLANO AT MATURITY RETAINED ACTIONS.
SO THE END OF YEAR RESULT, END OF YEAR STATUS FEEDBACK, UM, WE WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY ACTIONS THAT WERE EITHER COMPLETE OR OBSOLETE, UM, AND PROPOSE UPDATES ACCORDINGLY.
AND THEN THE OTHER IS ACTIONS RETAINED FROM THE PLANO AT MATURITY 2003 REPORT.
UM, ON OCTOBER 3RD, 2022, THE COMMISSION, UM, RECOMMENDED RETIRING THE, UM, STUDY, BUT RETAINING SEVEN OF THE ACTIONS THAT WERE NOT INCORPORATED INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN SOME WAY.
UM, YOU'LL SEE WE ARE PROPOSING FIVE NEW ACTIONS AND ONE REVISED ACTION.
AND ONCE AGAIN, UM, YOU KNOW, ON THE LEFT YOU SEE THAT IT NOTES SIX ACTIONS, BUT JUST PLEASE NOTE THAT DRE SEVEN, DIVERSE AND RESILIENT ECONOMY ACTION SEVEN INCORPORATES TWO OF THE PLANO AT MATURITY ACTIONS.
UM, AT THIS TIME, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF BOTH THE ZONING CASE 2024 DASH 0 2 5 ITEM, AS WELL AS THE C COMP PLAN AMENDMENT CPA 2024 DASH 0 0 1.
UM, JORDAN AND I ARE BOTH AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
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ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.SO COMMISSIONER, AS WE DISCUSSED IN OUR PRE-MEETING, UM, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS LET'S FOCUS OUR INITIAL COMMENTS ON THE ZONING CASE, WHICH IS ABOUT THE OVERLAY DISTRICTS, UM, AND THE EHA INCORPORATION AS AN OVERLAY.
LET'S HANDLE THAT, UM, HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON IT.
UM, HAVE ACTION ON THAT ITEM, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS WITH ADDITIONAL COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS AFTER THAT.
SO, UM, COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ZONING CASE REGARDING TAKING THE EHA AND TURNING THEM INTO CODIFIED ZONING CODE VERSUS IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? MR. ALI? JUST ONE QUESTION ON THE CONDITIONAL ECA, UM, THE A HUNDRED FOOT BURN MM-HMM.
THE A HUNDRED FOOT, I BELIEVE APPLIES TO THE DISTANCE FROM THE, UH, EXPRESSWAY.
IS THERE A HEIGHT TO THE REQUIREMENT TO THE BURN? THERE IS, LET ME FIND IT.
SO, UM, THE LANDSCAPE BURN MUST HAVE A MINIMUM HEIGHT OF SIX FEET AND THERE IS A MINIMUM SLOPE.
AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A NUMBER OF, UH, TREES AND SHRUBS, AND THAT'S ALL WRITTEN INTO UM, GOTCHA.
UM, SECOND QUESTION, THE PARKING STRUCTURE REQUIREMENT, DID I READ IT RIGHT, THAT THE REQUIREMENT IN THE NBD IS GOING TO BE APPLIED POOL CITYWIDE WHERE THE PARKING STRUCTURES NEED TO TIE INTO THE FACADE OF THE STRUCTURES THEY SERVE, OR, YES.
SO CURRENTLY THERE'S, I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW MANY, UM, DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS FOR PARKING GARAGES IN NBD TWO OR THREE OF THEM WOULD BE TAKEN OUT TO APPLY CITYWIDE.
ONE OF THOSE IS THE REQUIREMENT FOR THAT ARCHITECTURAL HARMONY WITH THE BUILDING THAT IT SERVES.
UM, JUST HAD A QUESTION ABOUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR SURROUNDING CITIES, UM, DO THEY HAVE, ARE THEY, DO THEY CURRENTLY HAVE, OR ARE THEY IMPLEMENTING SIMILAR POLICIES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE ON ENVIRONMENTAL NOISE YES.
OR ON PARKING STRUCTURES? WELL, ENVIRONMENTAL NOISE AND, AND MAYBE THE SAME THING WITH STRUCTURES OR, OR YOU KNOW, FRISCO, ALLEN, YOU KNOW, MCKINNEY.
ARE THEY DOING SIMILAR TYPES OF THINGS THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF? SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WITH, UM, THE ORIGINAL, UH, POLICY, WHICH WAS THAT 1,200 FOOT SETBACK ALONG 1 21 THAT WAS SHARED WITH, UM, I BELIEVE MCKINNEY AND ALLEN, UH, WERE ALSO APPLYING THE SAME IN TERMS OF THE MITIGATION AGAINST NOISE AND MITIGATION AGAINST AIRBORNE PARTICULATES.
THAT ONE, I THINK WERE LEADING THE PACK.
I, THE ONLY OTHER ONE THAT I COULD FIND WHEN WE WERE KIND OF DOING SOME PEER RESEARCH IS, UH, I BELIEVE THE SAN ANTONIO HAD SOME NOISE REQUIREMENTS FOR DEVELOPMENT NEAR THEIR MILITARY BASES.
YEAH, I, I THINK, UM, I THINK THIS WAS ALL VERY POSITIVE, UM, POSITIVE CHANGES.
I THINK HAVING THE, UH, REQUIREMENT OF HAVING THE ENGINEER ENGINEERING REPORT BEFORE THE CERTIFICATE OF VACANCY IS REALLY PUTTING TEETH INTO IT.
AND THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD IS THOUGHTS ABOUT REDEVELOPMENT, ABOUT APPLYING SOME OF THESE THINGS TO POTENTIALLY REDEVELOPMENTS IN THE FUTURE? UM, THOUGHTS ON THAT? YEAH, SO WE, WE WROTE IN, UM, IN THE, WHAT IS IT? THE APPLICABILITY STATEMENT.
SO IT, IT'S, UH, 0.3 WHERE ANYTHING THAT'S ON THE GROUND TODAY, THEY GET TO COMPLY WITH WHATEVER IT WAS WHEN THEY WERE CONSTRUCTED.
REDEVELOPMENT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THESE NEW REQUIREMENTS.
'CAUSE YOU KNOW, I THINK AS WE LOOK MOVING FORWARD, THAT'S GONNA BE A BIG, BIG PIECE IS ENSURING THAT WE, WE CONTINUE TO UPGRADE.
AND I ASKED, YOU KNOW, FROM A COMPETITIVE STANDPOINT, UH, ECONOMICALLY, RIGHT, WE'RE COMPETING WITH SOMETIMES WITH OTHER CITIES, BUT I THINK WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A HIGH QUALITY PRODUCT.
AND, UH, SO I THINK THESE ARE, THESE ARE GREAT STANDARDS AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS ON PLANNING AND ZONING BEFORE THIS CAME UP OFTEN, AND, UH, HAVING SOME OF THESE THINGS, UH, YOU KNOW, LOCKED DOWN OR ARE IS I THINK IS MUCH BETTER.
WE'RE GONNA BE CONSISTENT WITH HOW WE INTERPRET POLICY MOVING FORWARD.
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ALL RIGHT.I, UH, THIS IS, UH, AS I THINK I'VE TOLD MICHAEL AND CHRISTINA, THIS IS KIND OF WHAT I'VE BEEN HOPING TO SEE FOR A COUPLE YEARS NOW AND GETTING TO A PLACE WHERE, UH, WE'RE STARTING TO RE-LOOK AT SOME OF THIS.
SO YOU TALKED ABOUT STANDARDIZING THE, UM, THE MITIGATION, RIGHT? THE, THE, DO WE HAVE OR ARE WE CONSIDERING ANYTHING AS IT RELATES TO FLEXIBILITY FOR THE POTENTIALITY AS WE EXPERIENCED, EVEN SINCE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF NEW MITIGATION, UM, OPPORTUNITIES THAT DEVELOPERS OR, UH, PEOPLE THAT THEY BRING IN ARE, DO, ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A SIMILAR SITUATION WHERE WE'RE GONNA NEED TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THIS AGAIN? OR CAN, ARE WE A LITTLE MORE FORWARD THINKING IN THE, THE POTENTIALITY OF FUTURE MITIGATIONS, UH, AND OPPORTUNITIES THERE? YEAH, SO WITH WHAT WE'VE PUT INTO THIS, IT'S LARGELY BASED ON WHAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING TO DATE.
SO AS I MENTIONED, ALMOST ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENTS HAVE COME IN WITH THAT 45 INTERIOR NOISE STANDARD MM-HMM
SO, YOU KNOW, IF EVERYONE'S GONNA DO IT, WE MIGHT AS WELL JUST PUT IT INTO THE ORDINANCE.
UM, WHETHER OR NOT WE'LL SEE ALTERNATIVES TO THE SEPARATION REQUIREMENTS, I, THAT'S THE ONE WHERE I CAN SEE THERE MIGHT BE SOME CHANGES.
I CAN'T SEE, I THINK MINE WAS MORGAN LINES WITH THE PARTICULATE MATTERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND HOW THEY'RE MITIGATING FOR, UH, PARTICULATE.
SO AN ALTERNATIVE TO, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE PROPOSAL IS FOR LIKE A MERV 13.
UM, I AM NOT AN EXPERT IN THAT FIELD, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER KINDS OF MITIGATION THERE WOULD BE.
WITH THE WAIVER THAT WE HAVE IN THERE, IT IS CONTINGENT ON THE COMMISSION FINDING THAT THERE IS A SUFFICIENT SOMETHING TO MEET TO THE INTENT OF THE POLICY, WHETHER OR NOT THE COMMISSION WILL REQUEST AN ENGINEER'S REPORT TO SUPPORT, UM, THEIR FINDINGS WOULD BE UP TO THE COMMISSION AT THAT TIME.
BUT THAT'S WHAT THE, THE WAIVER IS IN THERE TO PRO PROVIDE THAT FLEXIBILITY.
UH, AND MY LAST THING I WANT TO IS MORE OF A COMMENT, THE INTENTIONALITY OF THE EHA STUDY.
AND THE REASON THAT WE PUT THOSE IN THERE WAS TO PRODU PROTECT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ALONG, UH, THOSE FOUR MAJOR HIGHWAYS.
AND I HAVE TO SAY THAT WHENEVER WE LOOK AT THE RESTRICTED AREA AND THE LANGUAGE THAT WE'RE USING THERE AS IT RELATES TO, UM, RESIDENTIAL DWELLINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, MOVING FROM DISCOURAGED TO PROHIBITED, I THINK THAT'S A HOME RUN.
UH, WE NO LONGER HAVE QUESTIONS BECAUSE THE BIG PROBLEM IS A GUIDELINE IS NOT EFFECTIVE IF WE DON'T FOLLOW IT.
AND TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THAT OUR INTENTION IS TO HAVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ON HERE AND NOT ANY KIND OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS OCCURRING IN THE RESTRICTED AREAS.
AND, UM, BEING CAREFUL IS EVEN HOW WE'RE LOOKING AT THE CONDITIONAL, UH, AREAS.
UH, I THINK YOU GUYS HIT A HOME RUN ON EXACTLY THE INTENT OF WHY WE DEVELOPED THIS EHA AND WHY WE'VE, UH, I THINK BEEN SUCCESSFUL WITH IT.
AGAIN, I WANNA CONCUR WITH THE PREVIOUS COMMISS COMMISSIONERS THAT, UH, YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB.
UM, ON THIS REPORT AND UPDATES TO THE, TO OUR ORDINANCE, UM, I ALSO HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE DISTANCE, AND I AGREE, I AGREE WITH, UH, UH, ALSO OTHER COMMISSIONERS THAT THAT'S GREAT.
UM, BUT I WANNA ASK YOU ABOUT THE DISTANCE, LIKE THE A HUNDRED FEET, OR THERE'S ONE SLIDES ABOUT, UH, SOMETHING ABOUT 15 FEET.
I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT, HOW DO YOU D HOW DID YOU DETERMINE THOSE, UH, DISTANCE? DID YOU ACTUALLY HAD HAVE TO GO OUT TO DO A, UH, ANALYSIS ENGINEER OR NOISE OR AIR POLLUTION TEST FOR THAT DISTANCE, OR IT'S JUST A, A LIKE A GENERAL BEST PRACTICE WE GOT FROM OTHER CITIES? SO HOW DID YOU CONCLUDE WITH THAT NUMBER? YEAH, SO FOR THE THREE DISTANCES, SO FIRST THE 15 FOOT LANDSCAPE EDGE, UM, THAT'S AN EXISTING REQUIREMENT THAT'S ALREADY IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE, SO THAT'S CARRIED FORWARD.
SO WE DIDN'T REEXAMINE THE, THE 15 FOOT.
UM, I BELIEVE TYPICALLY IT'S A 10 FOOT LANDSCAPE EDGE IS WHAT'S REQUIRED, EXCEPT WHEN YOU'RE IN AN OVERLAY DISTRICT, UM, SUCH AS THE DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY OVERLAY, THEN IT'S A 30 FOOT LANDSCAPE EDGE.
SO IT'S THE MORE RESTRICTIVE OF THE TWO.
IT WOULD BE EITHER 30 FOOT OR 15 FOOT, DEPENDING WHERE YOU ARE.
SO THAT'S WHERE THE 15 CAME FROM.
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REEXAMINE IT, THE 100 FOOT FOR THE LANDSCAPE EDGE WITH, UH, LANDSCAPING, THE BERM, THE TREES MM-HMMI BELIEVE THAT'S FROM A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT THAT WE JUST, YOU KNOW, WE SAW THAT WE HAD APPROVED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
WE JUST TOOK THOSE, MOVED THEM INTO THE ORDINANCE, AND THEN THE 500 FEET FOR THAT DISTANCE, UM, WHERE YOU GET A LITTLE BIT LESS OF A SEPARATION REQUIREMENT.
THAT'S, AS I MENTIONED, IT'S FROM THAT, UH, 2019 STUDY.
WELL, I WAS GONNA SAY THAT, UM, WE APPROVE THAT CASE, IT'S CASE BY CASE, WHICH IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT FROM WHERE'RE MAKING IT INTO AN ORDINANCE.
SO PROBABLY, UM, I WOULD BE HAPPIER IF WE HEARD SOME REALLY ACTUAL SCIENTIFIC ANALYSIS TO MAKE SURE THAT NUMBER IS THE NUMBER THAT WE WANT.
BUT IT'S OKAY, I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.
UM, ANOTHER SUGGESTION OR MY, UH, OBS OBSERVATION IS ABOUT THE NOISE AND THE AIR POLLUTION MAY RELATE TO THE HEIGHT OF THE HIGHWAY AND THE TRAFFIC.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY ANALYSIS THAT'S DONE, UM, BETWEEN THE, THE CORRELATION OF THE, THE, THE HEIGHT OF THE HIGHWAY RELATIVE TO THE, UH, WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT IS TO THE DISTANCE.
I'M NOT SURE IF I EXPLAINED IT WELL, LIKE, LIKE HOW FAR AWAY FROM THE HIGHWAY COULD BE RELATED TO THE HEIGHT OF THE HIGHWAY OR THE HIGHWAY IS.
SO WE DIDN'T GET INTO THAT ANALYSIS FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS CASE, BUT, UM, WHAT I HAVE ON YOUR SCREEN RIGHT NOW IS THE MAP BASED ON THAT 2019 STUDY.
AND YOU CAN SEE AT THE AREAS WHERE THE EXPRESSWAYS MEET, WHERE YOU HAVE THOSE LARGE ELEVATED PORTIONS OF THE EXPRESSWAY, THE, UM, BOTH THE CONDITIONAL AND THE RESTRICTED AREAS FLARE OUT CONSIDERABLY.
YOU ESPECIALLY SEE IT, UM, DOWN AT 75 IN THE PGBT, UM, THE CONDITIONAL, UM, OVERLAY GOES ALL THE WAY TO COLLIN CREEK.
UM, SO JUST FROM THAT ANALYSIS, YOU CAN SEE HOW MUCH THE SOUND TRAVELS MM-HMM
BECAUSE THESE MEASUREMENTS WERE BASED ON SOUND MEASUREMENTS ON THE GROUND.
WE DIDN'T REDO, UM, ANY OF THAT STUDY, UH, FOR THE PURPOSE OF TONIGHT.
THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER BRUNO.
UM, IF WE ADOPT THIS, WOULD PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY EXISTING OR HAVE, OR ARE CURRENTLY APPROVED, WOULD THEY BE ENTITLED TO CONTINUE TO EXIST AND GO FORWARD? YES.
THEY WOULD HAVE THEIR VESTED DEVELOPMENT RATES.
EVEN IF THEY WERE IN A, FOR EXAMPLE, AN EHA TO WHAT IS PRESENTLY AN EHA TWO PROHIBITED ZONE? CORRECT.
BECAUSE I REMEMBER FOR EXAMPLE, WE, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WE DEALT WITH THE, THE, THE J PLACE APARTMENTS THAT HAD SOME EHA TWO ISSUES.
AND, UM, IN CASES OF THAT CASE AND OTHERS LIKE IT, I MEAN, WE, WE SAT HERE SPINNING OUR WHEELS WONDERING, FIRST OF ALL THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHETHER IT REALLY PROHIBITED, UH, SENSITIVE LAND USES IN AN EHA TWO AREA OR NOT.
I THINK THE LANGUAGE WAS THEY WERE DISFAVORED, BUT IT DIDN'T ACTUALLY COME OUT AND SAY THEY WERE PROHIBITED.
AND SO WE WERE HERE TRYING TO DISCERN WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS OKAY WITH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IF THEY, THEY MITIGATED OR WHETHER OR NOT OPEN SPACE WAS, UM, USABLE OR NOT.
UM, WHETHER OR NOT THE RELEVANT NOISE MEASUREMENT WAS AN OUT WAS TO BE AN OUTDOOR MEASUREMENT OR AN INDOOR MEASUREMENT, WE HAD TO LOOK AT PAGES AND PAGES OF THE APPLICANT'S NOISE STUDIES GIVING US A DECIBEL LEVEL AT MULTIPLE PLACES ON EVERY STORY OF EVERY BUILDING THAT WAS PROPOSED TO BE BUILT.
AND WE SPENT A LOT OF, WE SPUN A LOT OF WHEELS GOING OVER THIS STUFF, AND I THINK IT MAKES ALL KINDS OF SENSE JUST TO CO CO CODIFY SOME STANDARDS, TELL THE DEVELOPERS WHAT THEY'RE EXPECTED, WHAT THEY CAN'T, WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO IN SOME RARE CASES.
AND I HOPE THAT THEY ARE RARE, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN COME TO US FOR A WAIVER WITH THE CAUTION THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU START WAIVING EVERYTHING ALL THE TIME AND YOU LOSE THE ORDINANCE.
SO I THINK WE SHOULD BE JUDICIOUS IN OUR GRANTING OF WAIVERS.
UH, IF AN ANSWER TO MR. BRODSKY'S POINT THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, NEW DEVELOPMENTS, NEW TECHNOLOGICAL DEVELOPMENTS MAY COME ALONG, SUCH THAT NEW MITIGATION STRATEGIES MIGHT BE ON THE TABLE.
UM, WE CAN ALWAYS REEXAMINE THE ORDINANCE, YOU KNOW, DOWN THE ROAD IF IT COMES TO THAT.
BUT, UM, OUR EMPHASIS SHOULD BE ON HAVING AN ORDINANCE THAT IS FIRM, THAT IS ENFORCEABLE AND THAT IS ENFORCED AND THAT WE DON'T THROW AWAY BY ABUSING THE WAIVER POWER.
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UM, MR. ALI, JUST A QUICK CLARIFYING QUESTION.FOR THE RECA, THERE IS NO WAIVER.
FOR THE CCA, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY OF A WAIVER IF THE COMMISSION DETERMINES THAT THE MITIGATION OF, UM, STRATEGIES ARE APPROPRIATE FOR ALL THE LISTED USES, NOT JUST THE MULTIFAMILY USE.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, UM, OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? THERE ARE NONE.
CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, STRICT COMMENTS TO THE COMMISSION.
COMMISSIONER BRONSKI, I AM THRILLED TO SAY THAT I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEM THREE A AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF COMMISSIONER LEY, GIVEN THE LONG JOURNEY WE'VE HAD ON EHAI WILL SECOND THAT.
AND COMMISSIONER BRUNO, YOU HAD YOUR LIGHT ON I SECOND MOTION? ALRIGHT.
OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
I THINK WE'VE GOT A TECHNOLOGICAL DEAL OVER THERE.
'CAUSE WE ALREADY CLOSED THAT ITEM.
SO, YEAH, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL GIVE OUR TECHNICAL TEAM A SECOND TO, OH, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROSKY AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ALI.
ALL IN FAVOR? IT PASSES EIGHT TO NOTHING.
ALRIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON TO THREE B.
DO WE HAVE, UH, QUESTIONS FOR THE STAFF ON ITEM THREE B, WHICH IS THE, UM, AMENDMENTS TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PILLAR, UH, REGIONALISM PILLAR, AND OTHER COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ACTIONS SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THE ECAS COMMISSIONER BRUNO? DOES A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM THREE B HAVE TO BE CONDITIONED ON THE COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THREE A? UM, I BELIEVE IT WAS JUST THE OPPOSITE ACTUALLY.
IS THAT CORRECT? WE'RE ACTUALLY CONDITIONING UPON EACH OTHER BECAUSE ONE IS THE ZONING AMENDMENT.
ONE IS THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT.
TO REMOVE THE MAP FROM THE COMP PLANS, THEY NEED TO BE BOTH APPROVED OR BOTH DENIED.
SO THE, PROBABLY THE EASY THING IS TO, PER THE RECOMMENDATION OF STAFF, THAT WAY IT'S COVERED IN THEIR RECOMMENDATION THE WAY IT NEEDS TO BE COVERED.
I, WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, SO I'M NOT READY FOR A MOTION JUST YET.
LET'S HANDLE QUESTIONS IF ANYBODY'S GOT 'EM.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS? ALL RIGHT.
ARE THERE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? THERE ARE NONE.
I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ALRIGHT, NOW, COMMISSIONER LINGENFELTER, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE, UH, ITEM THREE B AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF COMMISSIONER BRUNO.
HAVE COM HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LINCOLNFELTER.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BRUNO.
ALL, EVERYBODY VOTE MOTION PASSES.
THERE ARE NO COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST.
NOBODY SIGNED UP FOR COMMENTS OF INTEREST.
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ALRIGHT, UM, UH, I BELIEVE MR. BELL HAD WANTED THE FLOOR.BEFORE WE ADJOURN, I JUST WANNA TAKE A QUICK MOMENT TO, UH, RECOGNIZE MR. ERIC HILL, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
THIS WILL BE HIS LAST MEETING AFTER A VERY STORIED, UH, OVER 20 YEAR CAREER WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, ATTENDING MANY MEETINGS IN THIS VERY ROOM OVER THE YEARS.
UM, HE'S BEEN, HE'S VERY HIGHLY RESPECTED IN THE DEPARTMENT.
HE'S BEEN A MENTOR TO MANY PLANNERS, UM, AND A FRIEND TO MYSELF.
UM, WE'RE, UM, VERY MUCH GONNA MISS HIM IN THE DEPARTMENT AND WISH HIM WELL AND WE WANT TO ASK THE COMMISSION TO JOIN US AND, AND WISHING HIM WELL ON HIS FUTURE ENDEAVORS.
IT'S BEEN WONDERFUL TO WORK WITH YOU AND WE HAVE SUCH A TREMENDOUS STAFF HERE.
IT'S JUST BEEN AN HONOR TO BE HERE.
WE TRIED TO KEEP YOU HERE LATE JUST FOR OLD TIME SAKE.
I KNOW
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STRANGER.I KNOW YOU'VE GOT, UH, GREAT THINGS AHEAD OF YOU STILL TO DO.
SO, UM, IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE WORKING WITH YOU AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE TO THE CITIZENS OF PLANO.
ALRIGHT, WITH THAT SAID, UH, WE STAND, WE STAND ADJOURNED AT 9:11 PM AND WE'LL SEE EVERYBODY HAVE NEXT YEAR AND HAVE A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS.
AND, UM, WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT YEAR.