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I NOW DECLARE THAT THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL IS CONVENED IN AN OPEN SESSION, THAT ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF COUNCIL MEMBER PRINCE, MAYOR PRO TEM

[PRELIMINARY OPEN MEETING]

TU, AND COUNCIL MEMBER HORNE, WHO IS HERE.

BEFORE COUNCIL RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE THE COUNCIL WILL RECEIVE TRAINING AND AN OVERVIEW OF THE NEW MEETING MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.

THE COUNCIL WILL NOW RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE TRAINING ROOM A TO HOLD A CLOSED EXECUTIVE MEETING PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS.

OH, 5 OR 10 MINUTES TO DO THE TRAINING.

OKAY. WE'RE NOW DOING THE TRAINING.

OKAY. OKAY.

EVERYBODY HAS A LITTLE CHEAT SHEET IN FRONT OF THEIR SEAT.

THIS SYSTEM IS VERY INTUITIVE AND USER FRIENDLY.

I JUST ASKED, WHEN YOU FIRST SIT DOWN AT YOUR SEAT, MAKE SURE YOUR NAME IS ON THE TOP OF YOUR SCREEN, KIND OF IN THE CENTER, A LITTLE TO THE LEFT.

JUST TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE YOU IN THE RIGHT POSITION.

IN THE LOWER LEFT HAND CORNER, THERE'S A LITTLE SCREEN, WHICH IS YOUR PICTURE IN PICTURE, AND YOU CAN JUST TOUCH IT AND IT WILL EXPAND IT TO SHOW WHAT'S ON THE CONFIDENCE MONITOR AND ALSO ON THE BIG SCREEN.

AND THEN JUST TOUCH IT AGAIN AND IT WILL MAKE IT SMALL.

WHEN YOU'RE READY TO SPEAK YOU JUST TOUCH THE REQUEST TO SPEAK BUTTON IN THE MIDDLE ON THE BOTTOM, AND YOU'LL BE PLACED IN A QUEUE.

AND SO YOU'LL SEE, LIKE IN THIS CASE, MR. RICARDELLI IS NUMBER ONE AND MISS HOLMER IS NUMBER TWO.

AND AS THE MAYOR CALLS ON YOU, HE WILL TOUCH YOUR NAME.

AND THEN.

THERE WE GO. AND THEN.

I'M UP. AND YOUR MICROPHONE WILL COME ON.

IF YOU SEE GREEN, YOUR MICROPHONE IS ON.

SO ONCE YOU'RE DONE SPEAKING, YOU CAN TOUCH THE BOTTOM BUTTON TO TURN YOUR SPEAKER BUTTON OFF.

AND WE'RE GOING TO DO A QUICK LITTLE VOTE.

SO LET'S TAKE THIS FOR A WHIRL.

ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS ABOUT THIS SYSTEM FOR THE PUBLIC, IT WILL SHOW WHO MADE THE MOTION AND WHO MADE THE SECOND.

AND I JUST PUT IN YOUR NAMES AND WE'RE GOING TO START VOTE.

SO YOU SHOULD HAVE FOUR BUBBLES IN FRONT OF YOU.

SO JUST PICK HOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO VOTE.

AND I'LL FILL IN FOR THOSE THAT ARE NOT THERE.

ALL RIGHT.

AND THEN I'LL HIT END VOTE.

YOU'LL SEE HOW EVERYONE VOTED AND THE PUBLIC WILL ALSO SEE A PHOTO AND A COLOR WITH THE NAME OR WITH HOW PEOPLE VOTED.

MAYOR WILL DO HIS USUAL CALL OUT THE VOTE IF IT PASSED OR NOT.

IT AUTOMATICALLY TURNS OFF IF YOU FEEL LIKE THAT'S NOT A LONG ENOUGH TIME FOR YOU TO SAY MOTION CARRIES EIGHT ZERO, WE CAN EXTEND THAT TIME FOR YOU.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

BUT YOU DON'T HAVE KAYCI ON HERE.

KAYCI IS OFF RIGHT NOW BECAUSE SHE IS NOT HERE TONIGHT.

SO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, SO THAT'S THE ONLY REASON.

THAT'S THE ONLY REASON SHE WAS NOT ON THERE.

ALL RIGHT. EXACTLY.

SO THAT IS PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT OUR LITTLE VOTE SYSTEM.

A COUPLE OTHER LITTLE THINGS.

THIS ROOM IS EQUIPPED WITH AWESOME SOUND.

IT DOES SOUND GOOD.

YEAH. AND WITH THAT, IT WILL PICK UP EVERYTHING.

SO IF YOU'RE SPEAKING AND NOT EVEN BY A MICROPHONE, WHAT YOU SAY MAY SHOW UP ON CLOSED CAPTION, SO JUST MAKE SURE.

SIDE CONVERSATIONS, YES. AND IF YOU NEED A REFRESHMENT, THERE ARE SOME REFRESHMENTS IN THE ROOM BEHIND THE DAIS.

AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE.

AND NOW WE CAN GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

ALL RIGHT. TERRIFIC.

THE COUNCIL WILL NOW RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION IN TRAINING ROOM A TO HOLD A CLOSED EXECUTIVE MEETING PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF VERNON'S TEXAS CODES ANNOTATED GOVERNMENT CODE, CHAPTER 551, THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AUTHORITY CONTAINED IN SECTION 551.071, TO CONSULT WITH THE ATTORNEY, TO RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE, AND TO DISCUSS LITIGATION.

THANK YOU.

I NOW DECLARE THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL PRELIMINARY OPEN MEETING IS RECONVENED IN OPEN SESSION THAT ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF COUNCIL MEMBER

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PRINCE, MAYOR PRO TEM TU, AND COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH.

OKAY. OUR FIRST ITEM ON THE PRELIMINARY AGENDA IS CONSIDERATION AND ACTION RESULTING FROM THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.

OUR NEXT ITEM IS FACILITIES BOND REFERENDUM PRESENTATION.

KAREN RHODES-WHITLEY.

DISCUSS THE FACILITIES PROJECTS.

AT THE LAST MEETING, WE DISCUSSED PARKS AND RECREATION.

TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS ALL THE DIFFERENT FACILITY PROJECTS.

THE TOTAL ON THE FACILITY PROJECTS IS $307 MILLION.

AT OUR NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING, DECEMBER 17TH, WE WILL GET INTO STREETS.

RIGHT NOW, THE BOND REFERENDUM CITIZEN ADVISORY COMMITTEE ARE FINISHING OFF THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS AS WELL AS THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, AND THEY'RE ALL DUE INTO MY OFFICE NEXT WEEK.

AND THEN THEY WILL BE SUBMITTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

SO TONIGHT WE WILL GET GOING.

WE'RE GOING TO START OFF WITH PAUL KUNZE.

PAUL. GOOD EVENING.

PAUL KUNZE, OUR FACILITIES DIVISION MANAGER.

I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE OVERALL PACKAGE FOR FACILITIES AND THEN HAND OFF TO THE DIFFERENT CHIEFS AND DIRECTORS TO TALK ABOUT THEIR PROJECTS AND BE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. SO THE FACILITIES PROJECT OR THE FACILITIES OVERALL IS AT A LITTLE OVER 307 MILLION OR A LITTLE UNDER 307 MILLION OF THAT, 243 MILLION IS PUBLIC SAFETY, WHICH IS A COMBINATION OF A NEW POLICE HQ, FIRE STATION 14, RENOVATIONS TO STATION EIGHT AND LAND ACQUISITION DESIGNED FOR STATION THREE, AND A NEW POLICE TRAINING FACILITY.

WE HAVE THE UNDER THE MUNICIPAL FACILITIES SECTION.

WE HAVE BOTH PARKWAY SERVICES FLEET PHASE ONE.

THAT IS WHERE WE WILL REPLACE THE FLEET BUILDING AS A FIRST PHASE AND THEN UNDER PHASE 2 IN 2029, HOPEFULLY LOOK AT A NEW PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING AND THEN THE LAND AND ACQUISITION FOR A NEW FACILITIES MAINTENANCE BUILDING.

AND THEN FINALLY, WE HAVE JUST UNDER $5 MILLION FOR LIBRARIES TO BE SPENT AT SCHIMELPFENIG PARK AND HAGGARD LIBRARY.

SO NEXT UP IS CHIEF DRAIN.

THANK YOU, PAUL. HELLO, MAYOR. HELLO, COUNCIL.

I AM GOING TO BRIEF YOU ON THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS FIRST AS THE FIRST PART OF MY PRESENTATION.

SO OUR FACILITY WAS FIRST BUILT IN 1973.

SO IT IS GETTING TO BE PRETTY OLD, AS YOU CAN SEE.

THE LAST EXPANSION THAT WE DID WAS IN 2014, WHEN WE ADDED SOME ADDITIONAL SPACE FOR PROPERTY AND EVIDENCE, BUT THERE WAS NO MORE HOUSING.

THERE WERE NO MORE PERSONNEL THAT COULD BE ADDED TO THE FACILITY AT THAT TIME.

AND THEN SUSAN WILL BE UP HERE IN A MINUTE TO TALK ABOUT THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNICATION SIDE OF THE HOUSE.

OKAY. SO THIS IS WHERE THE NEW POLICE FACILITY WILL BE GOING.

THAT IS AT PARKER AND ALMA IN THE SOUTHWEST CORNER, RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE RACE TRACK IN WHAT'S CALLED THE HALL TRACK PARK.

RIGHT NOW, ABOUT A LITTLE OVER NINE ACRES OF THAT IS FOR THE POLICE FACILITY.

AND THEN THE FIRE CHIEF WILL BE OVER.

CHRIS WILL BE OVER TO TALK ABOUT THE CHIEF BIGGERSTAFF WILL TALK ABOUT THE FIRE FACILITY THAT'S NEXT DOOR TO THAT IN A MINUTE AS WELL.

SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS FIRST, THE ITEMS THAT ARE NOT GOING TO BE REPLACED.

SO THE CURRENT MUNICIPAL COURT, THE RAYMOND ROBINSON JUSTICE CENTER, WILL REMAIN THE JOINT USE 801 FACILITY ON LEGACY WILL REMAIN AND WITH THE RAYMOND ROBINSON JUSTICE CENTER, THAT ALSO MEANS THAT THE JAIL WILL ALSO NOT BE MOVING WITH US TO THE NEW LOCATION.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, OUR SUBSTATION AT LEGACY WEST.

AND THE STOREFRONTS WILL REMAIN AS WELL.

AND THEN THE RUSHIN POLICE SUBSTATION, OF COURSE, IS ONLY OPENED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.

IT WILL REMAIN. AND THEN THE EOC OPERATION.

SO WE WILL BE REPLACING THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS.

WE HAVE AN NPO STOREFRONT AT PARKER AND AVENUE K.

IT'S WHAT THAT ONE'S TALKING ABOUT.

THAT ONE WILL GO AWAY.

WE'VE GOT SOME LEASED SPACE IN VARIOUS PLACES THAT WILL GO AWAY.

AND OF COURSE, PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNICATION WILL COME OUT OF THE BASEMENT OF THIS BUILDING AND BE CO-LOCATED WITH US.

WE HAVE GOT TWO INVESTIGATIVE UNITS THAT'S AT THE CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY CENTER.

OUR SPECIAL VICTIMS UNIT, AND OUR FAMILY VIOLENCE UNIT WOULD BOTH BE MOVING TO HEADQUARTERS.

NOT SHOWING UP THERE ALSO IS OUR NARCOTICS OPERATION IS ALSO OUTSIDE, AND IT WILL ALSO BE MOVING TO THE NEW FACILITY AS WELL.

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SO THIS IS HOW THE STAFFING AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OVERALL LOOKED LIKE BACK IN 1973.

WE'VE GROWN QUITE A BIT SINCE THEN, OF COURSE, BUT WE HAD SOME ADDITIONAL UPGRADES IN 1981 WHEN WE WERE AT 141 AND THEN IN 2003 AND WE'RE NOT SHOWING THE 214, THE 2014 EDITION BECAUSE, AGAIN, THAT WAS JUST PROPERTY AND EVIDENCE BASE.

SO AND THEN THIS IS WHERE OUR CURRENT STAFFING IS.

SO AFTER THE NEW FACILITY IS BUILT, THEN WE WOULD BE GOING TO 382 POLICE PERSONNEL AT THE NEW FACILITY, PLUS AN ADDITIONAL 95 PSC, TELECOMMUNICATORS AND STAFF.

AND THEN THIS IS WHAT IT'S PROJECTED TO LOOK LIKE IN 20 YEARS AT 532.

SO OUR BIGGEST PROBLEMS RIGHT NOW IS, AS WE TALKED ABOUT, WE HAVE TOO MANY SEPARATE LOCATIONS, JUST DISPARATE LOCATIONS ACROSS THE CITY THAT ARE OF NO OPERATIONAL BENEFIT.

THE ONLY REASON THAT WE HAVE SOME OF THOSE FOLKS IN THESE SPACES IS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE SPACE TO PUT THEM AT THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS.

THAT DOES NOT, AS I SAID, ACCOUNT THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE TWO NPO STATIONS THAT ARE OUT WEST AND SHOPS AT LEGACY AND LEGACY WEST.

THOSE WOULD REMAIN.

SO WE'RE PAYING OVER $85,000 A YEAR IN LEASE SPACES, AND THEN IT WOULD ALSO PROVIDE MORE PROTECTION FOR SOME OF OUR VERY BIG, EXPENSIVE VEHICLES, LIKE THE ONE THAT YOU SAW OUTSIDE HERE THIS AFTERNOON.

SO IT WOULD BRING MOST OF OUR PERSONNEL BACK INTO THE SAME BUILDING.

WE'VE GOT SOME SITUATIONS WHERE OUR SUPERVISORS AND COMMANDERS FOR UNITS ARE IN ONE LOCATION, AND THEN THEIR PERSONNEL ARE IN ANOTHER PART OF THE BUILDING OR IN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT BUILDING. IT JUST MAKES FOR SOME OPERATIONAL INEFFICIENCIES THAT WE CAN CLEAN UP WITH THIS NEW FACILITY.

AND MRS. CARR WILL BE UP TO TALK ABOUT 9-1-1.

AND THEN I WILL BE BACK TO TALK ABOUT THE ACADEMY.

GOOD EVENING. I'M SUSAN CARR, DIRECTOR OF 9-1-1 PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNICATIONS, AND I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT MOVING AND CO-LOCATING IN THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS BUILDING.

SO AS YOU NOW KNOW, WE ARE CURRENTLY LOCATED IN THE BASEMENT OF THIS BUILDING.

AND WE WANT TO MOVE TO THE NEW POLICE HEADQUARTERS BUILDING.

IT'S GOING TO PROVIDE US A LITTLE MORE OF A SECURE FACILITY FOR WE HAVE SHIFT WORKERS THAT COME IN AROUND THE CLOCK.

SEVERAL OF THEM COME IN ON THEIR OWN AROUND 11 P.M., 3 A.M., AND THEY'RE COMING IN THE NORTH AND SOUTH PARKING LOT BY THEMSELVES.

SO IT PROVIDES ADDITIONAL SECURITY.

THAT PARKING LOT AT THE NEW PD BUILDING WOULD BE A SECURED PARKING FACILITY, SO THEY'D BE ABLE TO COME AND GO IN A SECURED AREA.

MY TEAM HAS RUN ACROSS SOME HOMELESS FOLKS IN THE PARKING LOT, AND THERE'S CAMERAS, BUT THAT DOESN'T REALLY DO ANY GOOD UNTIL AFTER THE FACT OR AFTER SOMETHING'S HAPPENING.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME SECURITY FOR THEM.

ADDITIONALLY, AS YOU GUYS REMEMBER, WHEN YOU HAD TO EVACUATE THIS FACILITY ABOUT A YEAR AGO, MY TEAM HAD TO EVACUATE AS WELL.

AND WHEN THEY'RE EVACUATING, WE HAVE A LOT OF BACKUPS AND REDUNDANCIES IN PLACE.

BUT WHILE WE'RE MOVING TO OUR ALTERNATE SITE ACROSS TOWN RICHARDSON POLICE DEPARTMENT IS ANSWERING OUR TELEPHONES FOR US, AND THEY'RE RELAYING OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE VIA RADIO.

WE HAVE A RADIO CHANNEL THAT'S ASSIGNED FOR THAT, BUT IT CREATES A SMALL DELAY IN GETTING FIELD RESPONDERS DISPATCHED IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES.

SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT 9-1-1 PERSONNEL ARE ALWAYS IN PLACE AT A FACILITY.

YOU KNOW, EITHER THEIR PRIMARY OR THEIR BACKUP SITE AND AVAILABLE TO GET FIELD RESPONDERS TO GO TO THE LOCATIONS.

THERE ARE GOING TO BE OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCIES TO BE GAINED IF WE MOVE INTO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

WE PERFORM A LOT OF WORK IN COORDINATION WITH THE REAL TIME CRIME CENTER AND THEN WITH PATROL OFFICERS AS WELL.

NOTHING WILL BE LOST TO MY FIRE FRIENDS AS WE MOVE INTO A POLICE BUILDING.

BUT WE IT DOES OFFER US OPPORTUNITY FOR OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCIES TO BE GAINED AS WELL.

AND THEN ALSO IF WE WHEN WE MOVE INTO IF WE CAN MOVE INTO A NEW CENTER, WE'D BE LOOKING AT SOME PRODUCTIVITY IMPROVEMENTS WITH THE LAYOUT OF OUR FLOOR.

OUR FURNITURE ISN'T LIKE YOUR FURNITURE AT HOME THAT YOU CAN JUST PICK UP AND RECONFIGURE ON ITS OWN.

SO THIS WOULD GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE SOME BETTER WORKFLOW IN OUR DISPATCH CENTER AND IN OUR FLOOR.

AND THEN FINALLY, THE LAST THING IS THAT NOT ENOUGH CAN BE SAID ABOUT NATURAL LIGHT.

YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL FLUORESCENCE OR WE PUT SOME CANNED LIGHTS IN DOWNSTAIRS, BUT MY TEAM ARE LOOKING AT 7 OR 8 MONITORS AND THE GLARE THEY'RE GETTING OFF WITH THE LIGHTS IS

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I'VE GOT MIGRAINE SUFFERERS AND OTHERS.

SO WE THINK THAT NATURAL LIGHT COULD HELP THAT.

AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS THAT LITTLE SEROTONIN BOOST THAT COULD HELP REDUCE SOME OF THE STRESS AND THE STRESSFUL CALLS THAT THEY'RE TAKING.

SO REALLY, THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU TONIGHT.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WILL HAND IT BACK TO THE CHIEF TO TALK ABOUT THE TRAINING CENTER.

THANK YOU, SUSAN, AND WE WILL GLADLY HAVE OUR DISPATCH FOLKS IN OUR OPERATION WITH US, BECAUSE I AGREE WITH SUSAN THERE ARE SOME OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCIES WE CAN GET FROM THAT.

ON THE TRAINING ACADEMY, I TALKED TO YOU BRIEFLY ABOUT THIS A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, 2 OR 3 WEEKS AGO.

IT WAS BUILT IN 1990 SO ALSO GETTING A LITTLE OLD.

THE FACILITY ITSELF, THE BUILDING ITSELF, HAS NEVER BEEN RENOVATED DURING THAT TIME.

WE DO HAVE THE RANGE OUT THERE THAT INDOOR RANGE WAS BUILT MORE RECENTLY, BUT THE BUILDING ITSELF HAS NEVER BEEN RENOVATED.

SO WE'VE INCREASED OUR STAFFING QUITE A BIT.

AS YOU SAW IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, THAT IMPACTS OUR TRAINING FACILITY.

RIGHT NOW, WE'RE HAVING TO GO AND USE OAK POINT AND SOME SCHOOL DISTRICT FACILITIES AND OTHER PLACES TO HOLD SOME OF OUR TRAINING, BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE SPACE OUT THERE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

AND WE ARE RUNNING THE BPOC OUT THERE.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU SHOULD KNOW ABOUT OUR ACADEMY IS WE ARE UNDER A TWO THIRD, ONE THIRD OPERATION WITH THE CITY OF RICHARDSON.

SO, WE COVERED TWO THIRDS OF THE COST.

THEY COVER ONE THIRD OF THE COST.

THAT WOULD BE THE CASE WITH THIS BOND REFERENDUM.

KAREN'S ALREADY WORKED OUT WITH THEM.

THEY'VE ALREADY TALKED TO THEIR FOLKS.

IT WOULD BE THE SAME WAY THAT WE PAID OFF, OR THE SAME WAY THAT THEY PAID THE CITY OF PLANO BACK FOR THE RANGE, WHAT, 20 YEARS AGO, KAREN? YEAH. AND SO IT WOULD BE PAID BACK OVER TIME.

SO THAT'S HOW THAT WOULD WORK.

WE ARE TRAINING SOME OTHER CITIES OUT THERE, BUT WHETHER YOU'RE TRAINING FIVE RECRUITS OR 25 RECRUITS, IT JUST PUTS SOME LIMITATIONS ON YOUR FACILITY OUT THERE. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SEEING WITH THE BPOC AND WE DO NOT WANT TO MOVE AWAY FROM TRAINING OUR OWN OFFICERS.

WE DEFINITELY WANT TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

BUT WE NEED SPACE TO BE ABLE TO DO IT.

SO OF COURSE, THE NEW BUILDING WILL ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF OUR TRAINING.

WE CAN GET THE LATEST TECHNOLOGY IN OUR CLASSROOMS. AND WE WOULD HAVE TO MODIFY THE DRIVING PAD, REALLY REDO THE DRIVING PAD THAT'S OUT THERE.

THE GUYS WOULD HAVE TO DRIVE IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION, BUT THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE COST OF THE NEW FACILITY.

THE NEW BUILD, AND IT WILL BE MORE ECONOMICAL TO TO DO A NEW BUILD.

WELL, THE NEW BUILD IS GOING TO COST MORE OBVIOUSLY, BUT WE THINK OVER TIME IT'S GOING TO BE A BETTER VALUE FOR THE MONEY.

WE'RE GOING TO GET MORE FOR EVERY DOLLAR THAT WE SPEND DOING IT ON A NEW BUILD, AS OPPOSED TO TRYING TO RENOVATE THE CURRENT FACILITY.

OKAY. AND CHIEF BIGGERSTAFF WILL TAKE IT FROM HERE.

GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THE THREE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR THIS YEAR.

WE'RE GOING TO START WITH STATION 14, AND IT IS, CHIEF DRAIN ALREADY SHOWED YOU THE LOCATION THERE AT A PARK IN ALMA.

AND THAT'S A PERFECT LOCATION FOR THE AREA THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO ADDRESS WITH THAT WITH STATION 14.

SO HERE'S SOME REASONS WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT STATION 14.

AND THAT IS FROM 2014 TO 2023 WE SAW OVER A 50% INCREASE IN EMERGENCY CALLS.

AND SO IF YOU DIG DOWN A LITTLE DEEPER ON WHERE THOSE CALLS ARE LOCATED, THE TWO BUSIEST STATIONS WE HAVE ARE STATIONS ONE AND TWO.

YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE SIGNIFICANTLY BUSIER THAN, THE OTHER STATIONS.

AND SO STATION 14, IF WE WERE TO GET IT, WOULD BE ACTUALLY DIRECTLY IN BETWEEN BOTH OF THOSE OF OUR BUSIEST DISTRICTS.

AND SO ONE OF THE BENEFITS TO HAVING A STATION 14 IN THAT LOCATION IS IT WOULD PROVIDE COVERAGE THAT KEPT KEPT US FROM HAVING TO BRING OTHER APPARATUS TO COVER STATION ONE AND STATION TWO, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THE GRAPH, THAT JUST GIVES YOU THE TOP FIVE UNITS THAT HAD TO COME INTO STATION ONE AND STATION TWO'S DISTRICT.

MED3 WAS THE HIGHEST, AND IT WAS 612 TIMES IN 2023 THEY CAME THERE.

SO YOU CAN PICTURE THAT IF YOU PULL THEM OUT OF STATION THREES DISTRICT, AND THAT LEAVES THAT ONE OPEN.

IT'S KIND OF A DOMINO EFFECT.

WE CAN'T PREVENT THAT ALTOGETHER.

BUT WHENEVER IF YOU DO THAT ENOUGH IT BEGINS TO AFFECT YOUR YOUR COVERAGE AND YOUR RESPONSE TIMES.

ANOTHER REASON WE LOOKED AT THAT AREA IS BECAUSE IN 2020, WHEN THEY DID THE CENSUS, THERE WAS 17,200 PEOPLE THERE, AND IT'S ESTIMATED BY 2034 THERE WILL BE 24,400 PEOPLE THERE WITH THE INCREASE FROM COLLIN CREEK AND HERITAGE CREEKSIDE, AND WITH THE MORE PEOPLE THERE BECOME COMES

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MORE EMERGENCY CALLS AS WELL.

THAT'S THE LOCATION AGAIN.

AND SO THE DISTRICTS ARE OUTLINED IN BLACK RIGHT THERE.

AND SO YOU CAN SEE THE IN PINK OR I MEAN IN PURPLE DOWN THERE, THE STATION ONE'S DISTRICT AND STATION TWO'S DISTRICT.

AND WE HAVE OUTLINED THERE IN BETWEEN THOSE WOULD BE THE DISTRICT THAT STATION 14 WOULD COVER.

ALL THOSE BLACK DOTS IN THERE REPRESENT EMERGENCY CALLS THAT TOOK PLACE WHEN WE DID THIS STUDY IN 2022 THAT TOOK PLACE THERE.

NOW, THERE WAS A LOT MORE EMERGENCY CALLS THAN THAT, BECAUSE IF IT WAS IF THERE WAS MORE THAN ONE CALL IN THAT LOCATION, IT JUST SHOWS ONE DOT FOR THAT.

AND YOU CAN SEE DOWN TOWARDS THE WHERE THE MALL IS AND THAT THAT ALMA PLANO PARKWAY AREA, THERE WAS A LOT OF EMERGENCY CALLS IN THAT AREA.

SO THE TOTAL FOR THAT STATION OR THAT AREA WOULD HAVE BEEN 2472 CALLS IN 2022.

AND THAT WOULD PUT YOU THE SIXTH BUSIEST STATION IN THE CITY.

SO THAT'S RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR 13 STATIONS THERE.

AND ONE AREA THAT REALLY HELPS US, THOUGH, IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE WHAT IT DOES TO STATIONS ONE AND STATION TWO THERE.

LIKE I SAID, THOSE ARE BY FAR OUR BUSIEST STATIONS, IT WOULD PULL 1,458 CALLS OFF OF STATION ONE, AND THEN ANOTHER 769 OFF OF STATION TWO.

IT WOULD DO A LITTLE BIT OF IN STATION FOUR AND STATION SIX.

YOU CAN SEE THAT AS WELL.

BUT OUR TWO BUSIEST STATIONS, WHERE IT WOULD HELP US MANAGE THE NUMBER OF CALLS THAT THAT ARE GOING ON IN THAT AREA.

THIS IS MY FAVORITE SLIDE ON THE STATION 14 SLIDE, BECAUSE YOU'VE PROBABLY HEARD ME SAY MANY TIMES, ONE OF THE THINGS WE FOCUS ON THERE IS WE WANT TO GET THERE QUICK, DO GOOD WORK, SHOW COMPASSION.

THIS REALLY AFFECTS THAT GETTING THERE QUICK PART.

OUR AVERAGE RESPONSE TIME IS FIVE MINUTES AND 40S.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PURPLE HEXAGONS THERE, YOU'RE GOING TO SAVE SOMEWHERE, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN 3 AND 4 MINUTES OF RESPONSE TIME BY HAVING A STATION 14 THERE.

AND YOU LOOK AT THE AREA RIGHT AROUND 14 AND THAT JUST MAKES SENSE.

THERE'S A STATION CLOSER THERE.

BUT THEN WHEN YOU LOOK DOWN TO THAT SAME AREA WHERE THE MALL USED TO BE, AND THE PLANO PARKWAY AND ALMA AREA, WHERE A LOT OF EMERGENCY CALLS TAKE PLACE YOU ALSO SAVE THAT SAME 3 TO 4 MINUTES THERE, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S IN KIND OF A NO MAN'S LAND FOR STATION ONE AND TWO.

AND IT TAKES A PRETTY GOOD WHILE FOR ONE OF THOSE UNITS TO GET THERE.

SO WHAT WOULD BE PLACED THERE AT THAT STATION WOULD BE A MED UNIT AND AN ENGINE.

AND AGAIN, FOR THE PURPOSES, TO HELP WITH THE COVERAGE FOR THAT AREA, REDUCE THE RESPONSES FOR THOSE TWO UNITS AND HELP WITH THE RESPONSE TIME. THE SECOND THING WE WERE LOOKING AT IS A STATION SIGNIFICANT STATION EIGHT REMODEL.

STATION EIGHT, IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH IT, IS AT HEDGCOXE AND ROBINSON ROAD.

AND IT'S BEEN THERE FOR 30 YEARS AND HAS NEVER HAD A MAJOR RENOVATION.

SO IT'S GOT QUITE A FEW THINGS THAT YOU'LL SEE ON THE NEXT TWO SLIDES THAT ARE THINGS THAT THAT NEED TO BE DONE THERE.

BUT PROBABLY THE MOST SIGNIFICANT BENEFIT FOR US IS THAT SECOND POINT THERE WHERE WE PROVIDE ADDITIONAL BAYS AS WE TRY TO FORECAST WHAT WE'LL NEED IN THE FUTURE IF WE CONTINUE TO SEE AN INCREASE IN EMERGENCY CALLS.

WE ANTICIPATE AT SOME POINT STATION EIGHT'S DISTRICT WOULD NEED AN AMBULANCE.

THEY DON'T HAVE AN AMBULANCE THERE NOW AND THEY DON'T HAVE SPACE FOR AN AMBULANCE.

WE HAVE TWO BAYS.

BOTH OF THOSE ARE ALREADY OCCUPIED BY AN ENGINE AND A TRUCK.

SO WE ANTICIPATE THE NEED AT SOME POINT FOR THERE.

THIS WOULD ALLOW FOR EXTRA BAY SPACE FOR THAT AND ALSO FOR APPARATUS STORAGE INSIDE RATHER THAN THAN OUTSIDE FOR OUR RESERVE APPARATUS. IT WOULD ALSO PROVIDE BEDROOM SPACE FOR THE ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE THERE TO STAFF THE AMBULANCE.

SO I'M GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE THIRD ONE THERE.

AND THAT WOULD JUST BE A LAND ACQUISITION FOR A NEW STATION THREE.

STATION THREE IS 48 YEARS OLD.

A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS IN IT.

BUT ALSO FOR US, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S CHANGED DURING THAT TIME IS THE SIZE OF THE APPARATUS WE BUY NOW IS MUCH LARGER THAN IT WAS WHEN THEY BUILT THIS STATION.

SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE APPARATUS THAT WON'T FIT IN THIS STATION.

THIS WOULD ALLOW US TO TO HAVE MORE BAYS, LARGER BAYS, AND OPERATIONALLY WOULD HELP US IN THAT RESPECT.

ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING.

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I'M ABBY OWENS, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS.

THERE WAS A MIX UP IN THE SLIDES THAT GOT UPLOADED FOR COUNCIL PACKET.

SO I DO HAVE PRINTED COPIES OF THE SLIDES YOU HAVE UP HERE.

LET ME PASS THEM OUT.

MR. MAYOR, I HAVE A QUESTION WITH REGARD TO THE LAND ACQUISITION FOR THE CHIEF.

FOR THE CHIEF BIGGERSTAFF.

YES. CHIEF IF YOU WOULD COME BACK DOWN REAL QUICKLY.

GO AHEAD. WE CAN HEAR YOU.

YEAH. SO I JUST WANT TO KNOW THE LAST SLIDE WITH REGARD TO THE 48 YEAR OLD FIRE STATION.

IT SAYS ON THE TITLE THAT YOU PLAN ON PURCHASING LAND.

LAND ACQUISITION AS WELL AS REMODELING.

SO ARE YOU PLANNING ON ACQUIRING THE LAND THAT'S ADJACENT TO THE FIRE STATION OR WHAT'S THE PLAN THERE? MAYOR PRO TEM, THIS IS MARK.

WE HAVE, AS YOU KNOW, IN CLOSE PROXIMITY, SOME LAND AND FACILITIES WITH PISD.

PART OF WHAT WE HAVE IS AN AGREEMENT ON THAT, THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IT AS THE POTENTIAL THAT PART OF THAT LAND THAT WE SECURE FROM PISD, WHICH IS LESS THAN A QUARTER MILE AWAY FROM FIRE STATION THREE COULD BE USED TOWARDS THAT PURPOSE.

SO WE HAVE SET ASIDE SOME OF THAT DISCUSSION BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT CLOSED QUITE YET ON THE PROPERTY.

WE'VE COME TO AGREEMENT BUT HAVE NOT CLOSED, AND WE DO NOT HAVE DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL ON THAT QUITE YET.

BUT FOR THAT WE HAVE FOCUSED ON THAT.

AND SO THAT IS PART OF THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAVE IS THE ACQUISITION OF PART OF THAT PISD LAND FOR THAT PURPOSE.

I SEE, AND THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE BOND REFERENDUM.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

IT WOULD BE REPAYING THE LAND BANK THAT WE HAVE.

GOT IT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

SO I WAS GOING TO HIGHLIGHT FOR PUBLIC WORKS WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE WORKED WITH A CONSULTANT TO EVALUATE THE CURRENT SITE THAT WE'RE AT.

THE PUBLIC WORKS OPERATION INCLUDES WATER, SEWER, STREETS, TRAFFIC, DRAINAGE, FLEET AND ALSO OUR SOLID WASTE OPERATION, ALL ON THIS ONE CAMPUS.

THIS CAMPUS WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1979 WITH A FEW ADDITIONAL DIFFERENT ADDITIONS TO THE FLEET BUILDING.

THE CHALLENGE THAT WE REALLY HAVE AT THIS MOMENT IS THE BAYS.

WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH BAYS TO DO WORK ON OUR LARGER EQUIPMENT, AND THE CEILINGS AREN'T TALL ENOUGH AS WELL.

SO WE ENGAGE THE SERVICES OF A CONSULTANT TO ASSIST US IN EVALUATING ONE; COULD WE STAY ON THE SITE AND IF WE COULD, COULD WE JUST RENOVATE THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE THERE? OR WOULD THAT GOING TO TAKE AWAY FROM THE SPACE THAT WE HAVE FOR PARKING AND STORAGE OF OTHER VEHICLES? AND THEN WHAT WOULD BE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS TO GET TO THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND SITE DESIGN NEEDS THAT WE NEEDED? AND AFTER EVALUATING IT WAS DETERMINED THAT WE COULD STAY ON SITE AND WE WOULDN'T NEED TO SEPARATE ALL OF PUBLIC WORKS INTO TWO OPERATIONS, BUT WE WOULD NEED TO ADJUST THE LOCATION. SO THIS IS WHAT THAT STUDY HAD SHOWN.

AND FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS OPERATIONS PIECE OF THE BUILDING, WE CURRENTLY HAVE ABOUT 40,000 SQUARE FEET.

AND OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS WE NEED CLOSER TO 45,000.

THE MAJORITY OF IF THERE IS ANY GROWTH IN PUBLIC WORKS STAFF IS GOING TO BE MORE IN FIELD BASED STAFF, AND THAT JUST MEANS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE ADDITIONAL VEHICLES WITH THE PEOPLE, NOT NECESSARILY SQUARE FOOTAGE OFFICE SPACE.

THERE IS SOME INCREASE.

FOR FLEET OPERATIONS WE CURRENTLY HAVE 17 BAYS.

NOT ALL OF THE BAYS HAVE CEILINGS THAT ARE REALLY HIGH ENOUGH FOR WHAT WE NEED FOR OUR OPERATIONS.

AND SO THIS WOULD ALSO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF BAYS THAT WE WOULD HAVE UP TO APPROXIMATELY 24 IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO.

PARKS IS CURRENTLY ON A SECTION OF OUR SITE AND I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THAT IS.

AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING REALLY CLOSELY WITH OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT TO IDENTIFY WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE.

AND THEIR NEEDS ARE A LITTLE BIT LESS SQUARE FOOTAGE THAN THEY HAVE NOW, BUT A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE ACTUAL STORAGE OUTSIDE.

AND OVERALL, OUR BIGGEST HINDRANCE IS PARKING.

AND THAT PARKING CHALLENGE IS MOSTLY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FOR PERSONAL VEHICLES, PLUS ALL THE FLEET VEHICLES THAT WE HAVE.

AS I MENTIONED, IT'S SOLID WASTE, IT'S OUR BACKHOES AND ALL OF THE TRUCK VEHICLES AND CREW CABS THAT WE HAVE.

SO THAT'S ONE OF OUR REALLY OUR BIGGEST CHALLENGE.

AND WHAT HINDERS US FROM JUST RENOVATING EXISTING SITES.

SO HERE'S SOME JUST QUICK PHOTOS YOU COULD SEE INSIDE OF OUR FLEET BUILDING.

OBVIOUSLY ON THE LEFT IS A FIRE APPARATUS AND ON OUR RIGHT IS A JET TRUCK.

AND THESE, AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY'RE VERY CLOSE TO THE CEILING WHENEVER IT'S ON A LIFT.

OR IF WE'RE TRYING TO EXTEND ONE OF THE APPARATUSES ON THAT JET TRUCK.

THERE'S JUST A LOT OF CHALLENGES WITH INSIDE OF THE BUILDINGS.

SAME THING ON FIRE.

WE WOULD PREFER TO HAVE THE LADDER UP AND THEN FULLY OPEN THE CAB.

BUT INSIDE OF THE BUILDING, WHEN WE'RE DOING WORK ON, WHEN OUR TECHNICIANS ARE WORKING ON THEM, THEY CAN'T FULLY OPEN THAT TOP LIKE THEY WOULD NEED TO.

AND THEN THIS IS ONE OF OUR EXAMPLES OF OUR PARKING.

THIS IS AT THE END OF A SHIFT.

THERE ARE NOT STRIPED PARKING NEXT TO THIS BUILDING ON THE LEFT THAT'S ACTUALLY A CAR WASH BAY.

AND THEN ON THE RIGHT YOU'LL SEE THAT WE ARE OFTEN DOUBLE PARKING A LOT OF OUR VEHICLES, WHICH MEANS THAT WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE SOME VEHICLES GET OUT FIRST BEFORE WE CAN SEND THE NEXT ONES OUT. AND THE BOTTOM SHOWS OUR PUBLIC WORKS OVERFLOW PARKING AND STORAGE AREA.

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THIS IS JUST LIKE A GRAVEL LOT WHERE WE HAVE STORAGE, BUT ALSO YOU CAN SEE WHERE THERE ARE DUMP TRUCKS PARKED.

THERE'S EXCAVATORS AND BACKHOES AND PIECES THAT ARE PARKED THERE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PARKING UP NEAR CLOSE TO THE BUILDING.

SO THE PROPOSAL IS TO WITH OUR CURRENT [INAUDIBLE] LAYOUT ON THE TOP YOU'LL SEE IS OUR PUBLIC WORKS STORAGE AND OVERFLOW PARKING.

THAT'S THE AREA I JUST SHOWED YOU WHERE WE HAD DUMP TRUCKS AND BACKHOES PARKED BELOW THAT IS WHERE PARKS MAINTENANCE IS CURRENTLY, AND WE ARE LOOKING TO WORK WITH THEM, TO RELOCATE THEM TO ANOTHER LOCATION AND ALSO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT LOCATION FOR THEIR OPERATIONAL NEEDS.

RIGHT THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF OUR OPERATION IS A ONCOR EASEMENT, WHICH PREVENTS US FROM DOING ANY SORT OF CONSTRUCTION THERE, BUT WE COULD FULLY UTILIZE IT FOR PARKING AND OUTSIDE STORAGE.

PUBLIC WORKS MAIN OPERATIONS BUILDING IS ON THE BOTTOM WITH THE FLEET OPERATIONS ON THE RIGHT.

WE'RE PROPOSING MOVING THAT FLEET OPERATIONS TO THE TOP LEFT CORNER.

AND SO IT WOULD PROVIDE ADDITIONAL PARKING.

IT WOULD ADD THE ADDITIONAL BAYS THAT ARE NEEDED.

WE WOULD THEN, IN A FUTURE BOND, LOOK TO DEMO THE OLD FLEET BUILDING AND BUILD THE PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING ON THAT SITE, SO WE COULD THEN FULLY UTILIZE THE SITE AND ALL OF THE PARKING AND IMPROVED SURFACES THAT WOULD BE THERE FOR US.

AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, OKAY.

ONCE AGAIN, PAUL KUNZE, FACILITIES DIVISION MANAGER.

I ACTUALLY GET TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THIS PROJECT OWNER.

THIS IS FOR MY TEAM.

THEY'VE BEEN CURRENTLY WORKING OUT OF THE OLD ANIMAL SHELTER BUILDING NEXT TO THE POLICE TRAINING.

AND THIS IS PARTNERED WITH STATION THREE, ASSUMING STATION THREE AND FACILITIES MAINTENANCE IS FOR THAT SAME PARCEL OF LAND.

STRUGGLES WE HAVE, WE DEFINITELY DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH STORAGE FOR ALL THE MATERIALS TO SUPPORT THE BUILDINGS WE'RE RENTING.

YOU KNOW, RENTAL SPACES, YOU KNOW, ROLL UP RENTAL SPACES TO STORE ALL OF OUR EXTRA STUFF.

AND WE NEED MUCH BETTER LOCKER ROOMS FOR OUR GUYS.

SO IT'S A PRETTY SIMPLE PROJECT.

BUY THE LAND, FUND THE DESIGN, AND THEN STAGE IT FOR THE 2029 BOND, PRESUMABLY.

ANY QUESTIONS? NEXT IS LIBBY HOLTMANN.

ALL RIGHT. OH, THAT'S SO BRIGHT.

GOOD EVENING. SO I'M JUST HERE TO SHARE ABOUT YOUR LIBRARIES.

WE HAVE FIVE LIBRARIES ACROSS PLANO.

TWO OF THEM WERE RENOVATED IN THE 2017 BOND.

SO WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE OTHER THREE TONIGHT.

AND WE SAW OVER 1.7 MILLION VISITORS LAST YEAR.

SO OUR LIBRARIES ARE WELL USED AND COULD USE A LITTLE UPDATES.

IT'S THE SAME ITEMS FOR EACH LOCATION.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SCHIMELFENIG, HAGGARD, AND PARR LIBRARIES.

WE'D LIKE TO RENOVATE BATHROOMS AND MAKE THEM MORE ACCESSIBLE.

REFRESH FINISHES, PAINT.

REMOVE WALL COVERING.

RENOVATE BATHROOMS AND ADD STUDY PODS AT ALL LOCATIONS.

WE FOUND WHEN WE ADDED STUDY PODS TO THE OTHER TWO RENOVATIONS FROM 2017 THEY'RE VERY WELL UTILIZED BY THE PUBLIC.

SO THAT IS PART OF OUR ASK.

SO BATHROOMS STUDY PODS AND REFRESH FINISHES.

ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE PRESENTATIONS.

ALL RIGHT. LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE THE DART PRESENTATION.

MISS LEE.

I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO HIT THE MICROPHONE.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE, I'M NADINE LEE.

I'M THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF DART.

AND I'M PLEASED TO BE HERE TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON DART AND DART IN THE CITY OF PLANO.

SO AND BY THE WAY, I WANT TO COMPLIMENT YOU ON YOUR RENOVATED COUNCIL ROOM BECAUSE IT IS IMPRESSIVE AND BEAUTIFUL.

SO LET ME JUST START.

I'M GOING TO TRY TO NAVIGATE THIS.

IT'S SO IMPRESSIVE AND BEAUTIFUL THAT YOU HAVE THESE GREAT TECHNOLOGIES.

SO HERE WE GO.

ALL RIGHT. SO I'M GOING TO JUST COVER THE CURRENT STATE OF DART IN PLANO AND THEN TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT FUTURE PLANS IN PLANO AND WHAT WE HAVE IN STORE SYSTEM WIDE FOR DART.

OKAY. SO LET ME JUST START OUT BY TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT PLANO SERVICES.

AND BY THE WAY, I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE LIMITED TIME TODAY.

SO I'LL TRY TO BLAST THROUGH THIS 5000 SLIDE DECK THAT I HAVE FOR YOU TODAY.

SO FIRST OF ALL, LET ME JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SERVICES IN PLANO.

CURRENTLY WE HAVE ABOUT EIGHT BUS ROUTES IN THE CITY OF PLANO.

SEVEN OF THOSE ARE LOCAL ROUTES, AND ONE OF THEM IS AN EXPRESS ROUTE.

AND JUST IN OUR SECOND QUARTER NUMBERS, WE HAD ABOUT 161,000 BOARDINGS ON THOSE EIGHT BUS ROUTES.

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WE ALSO HAVE IN PLANO TWO LIGHT RAIL LINES THAT SERVE THE CITY OF PLANO, BOTH THE RED AND THE ORANGE LINE.

ORANGE LINE ONLY SERVES WEEKDAY PEAK PERIODS, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE CARRYING ON A QUARTERLY BASIS.

WE CARRIED ABOUT 200,000 BOARDINGS IN THE SECOND QUARTER, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE SIX GOLINK ZONES IN THE CITY OF PLANO.

THERE WERE ABOUT 62,000 BOARDINGS IN THE SECOND QUARTER AS WELL.

AND SO THERE ARE A NUMBER OF SERVICES.

LET ME TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT RIDERSHIP IN PLANO, BECAUSE I THINK THAT TELLS AN INTERESTING AND VERY IMPORTANT STORY ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN PLANO.

SO FIRST OF ALL, TOTAL RIDERSHIP IN PLANO ON A QUARTERLY BASIS IS ABOUT AT 88% OF PRE-PANDEMIC, JUST IN THE CITY OF PLANO, WHICH IS AHEAD OF THE REST OF THE SYSTEM.

JUST SO YOU KNOW AND I THINK IT'S REALLY GOOD TO SHOW THESE NUMBERS.

ON THIS SLIDE THAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU, YOU HAVE IN THE BLUE ARE BUS RIDERSHIP ON A QUARTERLY BASIS.

IN THE RED IS THE LIGHT RAIL RIDERSHIP, GREEN IS GOLINK, AND THEN THE GOLD COLOR IS PARATRANSIT.

AND SO YOU CAN SEE THAT ON A QUARTERLY BASIS WE'RE STARTING YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE ABOUT AT 88% OF PRE-PANDEMIC.

AND SO IT'S A GOOD STORY TO TELL.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTRY ON A COUNTRY ON A US BASIS, OUR RIDERSHIP RETURN SINCE THE PANDEMIC IS ONLY AT ABOUT 76%.

SO AGAIN, WE'RE AHEAD OF THE NATIONAL AVERAGE.

WE'RE ALSO AHEAD IN THE SYSTEM, AHEAD OF THE SYSTEM AS A WHOLE.

WHAT I THINK IS INTERESTING ABOUT THIS SLIDE IS YOU CAN SEE IN THE BLUE BARS THAT THE BUS RIDERSHIP SINCE Q3 OF FY 20 HAS BEEN STEADILY GROWING, YOU KNOW, JUST INCREMENTALLY GROWING.

LIKEWISE, RAIL RIDERSHIP IS KIND OF DOING THE SAME THING.

IT'S NOT GROWING A LOT, BUT THE GREEN THAT YOU SEE, WHICH IS GOLINK, HAS GROWN PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY, PARTICULARLY IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

AND SO THERE'S INCREASING USE OF GOLINK ON THE SYSTEM.

AND THEN PARATRANSIT HAS STAYED LARGELY THE SAME.

THIS NEXT SLIDE IS JUST SHOWING YOU ONE OF THE MANY GOLINK ZONES THAT ARE IN THE CITY OF PLANO.

I LIKE TO SHOW THESE HEAT MAPS BECAUSE IT GIVES YOU A SENSE OF WHERE PEOPLE ARE USING GOLINK, WHERE ARE THEY COMING FROM, WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO? AND SO THE HEAT MAP SHOWN IN RED, YOU CAN SEE IT IN THE LOWER LEFT CORNER THERE, NORTHWEST PLANO PARK AND RIDE.

THAT'S PROBABLY THE SITE THAT GETS THE MOST USE FOR GOLINK, BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT THE VARIOUS PLACES WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING ON GOLINK RANGE FROM, YOU KNOW, APARTMENTS TO DESTINATIONS LIKE A RETAIL PLACE LIKE WALMART AND OTHER COMMERCIAL AREAS.

THERE ARE EMPLOYMENT LOCATIONS LIKE JP MORGAN, BUT YOU CAN SEE THE APARTMENTS.

SO THERE ARE ALWAYS A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, DO WE HAVE ANY RESIDENTS IN OUR CITY WHO ARE ACTUALLY USING THE SERVICE? AND THE ANSWER IS YES, YOU DO.

YOU HAVE SOME PEOPLE IN APARTMENTS WHO ARE USING THE GOLINK SERVICE.

AND SO ONE OF THE GREATEST THINGS ABOUT GOLINK IS THAT WE ACTUALLY KNOW A LOT MORE ABOUT THE RIDERS WHO USE GOLINK.

SO YOU CAN SEE FROM HERE AND WE DO BY THE WAY WE CAN SHARE THIS WITH YOU LATER.

BUT WE HAVE OTHER MAPS, OTHER HEAT MAPS OF OUR OTHER GOLINK ZONES THAT WE WOULD LOVE TO PROVIDE TO YOU AFTER THIS PRESENTATION SO THAT YOU CAN KIND OF LOOK AT THE OTHER FIVE GOLINK ZONES.

THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT SECURITY, CLEANLINESS AND RELIABILITY.

AND I THINK WE REALLY AT DART, WE'VE BEEN FOCUSING A LOT ON THESE THREE ATTRIBUTES OF SERVICE, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT SERVICE QUALITY IS HAS A DIRECT CORRELATION TO OUR RIDERSHIP.

SO SINCE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WE'VE BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD TO IMPROVE SECURITY ON THE SYSTEM.

WE HAVE A NEW SECURITY STRATEGY, WHICH WE'LL BE HAPPY TO SHARE WITH YOU.

BUT WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE LAST YEAR IS WE'VE ADDED 100 TRANSIT SECURITY OFFICERS, TO OUR SYSTEM TO RIDE THE LIGHT RAIL TO PATROL SOME OF THE AREAS THAT ARE SERVED BY BOTH RAIL AND BUS, TO RIDE OUR BUSSES, TO LOOK AT OUR TRANSFER CENTERS, AND REALLY JUST TO PROVIDE THE SURVEILLANCE ON THE SYSTEM.

WE ALSO, OF COURSE, HAVE SECURITY CAMERAS.

WE HAVE OUR MULTIDISCIPLINARY RESPONSE TEAM THAT HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR ABOUT A YEAR TO TRY TO ADDRESS FOLKS WHO ARE IN COGNITIVE CRISIS ON OUR SYSTEM AND TRY TO INTERCEPT THEM AND PROVIDE THEM SERVICES OR TRY TO HELP THEM FIND SERVICES.

AND THEN WE'VE ADDED A LOT TO OUR CLEANING REGIMEN, ON OUR SYSTEM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CLEANING WHILE THE VEHICLES ARE IN SERVICE.

AND SO WHEN PEOPLE SEE THAT, THEY ALSO THEY HAVE ALSO RECOGNIZED THAT HAVING SOMEBODY IN A UNIFORM CLEANING UP DURING SERVICE HELPS THEM, YOU KNOW, HAVE A BETTER SENSE OF SECURITY AS WELL. SO THAT WAS KIND OF A VALUE ADD THERE.

WE ARE ALSO FULL UP ON OUR OPERATORS.

THIS IS UNUSUAL FOR THE COUNTRY WHERE WE HAVE ENOUGH OPERATORS TO DELIVER MORE THAN 99% OF OUR SCHEDULED SERVICE, WHICH HAS REALLY IMPROVED RELIABILITY ON THE SYSTEM.

AND SO THE COMBINATION OF ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE DESIGNED TO TRY TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF THE SERVICE ON ALL OF OUR SERVICES ACROSS THE ENTIRE SPECTRUM, BECAUSE

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WE KNOW THAT IF PASSENGERS FEEL MORE SECURE, IF THEY FEEL LIKE THEY CAN COUNT ON US, IF THEY HAVE MORE CONFIDENCE IN THE SYSTEM, THEN THEY'RE MORE LIKELY TO RIDE IT.

AND THIS BEARS OUT IN OUR CUSTOMER SATISFACTION RATINGS.

YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, OUR CUSTOMER SATISFACTION RATING HAD ACTUALLY DIPPED TO AN ALL TIME LOW IN 2022.

THAT WAS SHORTLY AFTER I ARRIVED.

AND SINCE THEN, IT HAS STEADILY GROWN, AND SO WE'VE GONE FROM A LOW OF 58% OVERALL CUSTOMER SATISFACTION IN 2022, AND WE'RE NOW AT 72%.

WE'RE NOT QUITE AS HIGH AS WE'VE BEEN IN THE PAST, BUT TO ME, WE'RE AT LEAST ON THE UPWARD TRAJECTORY, WHICH IS HOPEFULLY A GOOD NEWS STORY FOR FOLKS.

AS FAR AS FUTURE PLANS GO, WE DID ADOPT A NEW STRATEGIC PLAN IN JUNE OF THIS YEAR, AND IT'S CALLED POINT B, AND THE MAIN POINT OF POINT B IS TO FIND WAYS TO LEVERAGE DART AS A STRATEGIC ECONOMIC AND MOBILITY ASSET FOR THIS REGION.

AND THAT GOES FOR EVERY SINGLE CITY THAT WE SERVE.

WE WANT TO BE THE THING THAT DISTINGUISHES YOU FROM THE OTHER CITIES IN THIS REGION, AND WE WANT TO BE THAT SERVICE THAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO USE.

WE HAVE A NEW MISSION AND VISION BEING FIRST IN MIND.

THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IN A VERY CAR OR TRUCK CENTRIC LOCATION, IT'S VERY HARD FOR PEOPLE TO IMAGINE TRYING TO USE TRANSIT TO GET TO THEIR DESTINATION.

BUT WE THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO BE TO BE GOOD FOR OUR PASSENGERS AND GIVE THEM THAT CONFIDENCE THAT IF THEY NEED TO GO SOMEPLACE THEY CAN RIDE, THEY CAN CERTAINLY RIDE DART TO DO THAT. ALSO, OUR MISSION STATEMENT BEST IN CLASS MOBILITY EXPERIENCES THAT HELP PEOPLE AND COMMUNITIES CONNECT AND FLOURISH.

THE IMPORTANT PIECE ABOUT THIS IS THAT WE PROVIDED THE WHY OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.

LIKE, WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? WHY DO WE WANT TO CREATE BEST IN CLASS MOBILITY EXPERIENCE? AND IT'S BECAUSE WE WANT TO HELP PEOPLE IN COMMUNITIES.

SO THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT ASPECT OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.

STRATEGIC GOALS. WE HAVE SIX.

THEY'RE ARRANGED IN THREE DIFFERENT BUCKETS.

THE FIRST BUCKET IS FOCUSED ON OUR AGENCY AND CREATING THE ORGANIZATIONAL EFFICIENCIES THAT HELP MAKE US BETTER.

WE WANT TO DELIVER ON THE POTENTIAL OF OUR STAFF.

AND IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT IN THE CONTEXT OF CONSTANT SCRUTINY OF GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATIONS, THAT WE TRY TO DO THE BEST WE CAN FOR THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE, AND THAT WE DELIVER THAT VALUE FOR PEOPLE.

WE HAVE ANOTHER BUCKET, WHICH IS ABOUT THE CUSTOMER AND FOCUSING ON CUSTOMER CENTRIC GOALS, MAKING SURE THAT WE PROVIDE A QUALITY SERVICE AND WE PROVIDE THAT SEAMLESS CONNECTIVITY SO THAT PEOPLE ACTUALLY CAN RIDE DART TO WHEREVER THEY NEED TO GO.

AND THEN THE THIRD IS REALLY LEVERAGING RESOURCES AND CREATING RELATIONSHIPS SO THAT WE CAN DELIVER MORE FOR THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE.

AND THAT'S A COLLECTIVE SET OF RESOURCES THAT WE WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF.

THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF A WORD HEAVY SLIDE, BUT WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE MAYOR AND MR. ISRAELSON TO TALK ABOUT THE VISION FOR PLANO AND HOW DART CAN HELP SERVE THAT VISION.

SO A LOT OF THIS CENTERS AROUND THE WORK THAT YOU ALL ARE DOING ON WHAT I UNDERSTAND NOW IS THE BIG TEN, NOT THE BIG SEVEN.

YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF DEVELOPMENTS COMING ONLINE IN THE COMING YEARS, AND WE WANT TO BE A PART OF MAKING SURE THAT WHEN THOSE THINGS COME ONLINE, THAT WE'RE NOT INDUCING THE TYPE OF TRAVEL DEMAND THAT YOU CAN'T ACTUALLY ACCOMMODATE.

RIGHT. THAT YOU NEED ADDITIONAL CAPACITY.

AND WE THINK THAT DART CAN ACTUALLY HELP YOU PROVIDE THAT CAPACITY AND ALSO CREATE THE ENVIRONMENT WHERE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE TO GET TO WHERE THEY WANT TO GO.

AND SO OUR OBJECTIVE IS TO WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH MR. ISRAELSON AND HIS TEAM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROVIDE THE ACCOMMODATIONS AND THE SERVICES THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BENEFIT YOUR DEVELOPMENTS.

IN ADDITION, OBVIOUSLY, WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF OUR HOUSE TOO.

WE HAVE A SYSTEM MODERNIZATION PROGRAM.

IT'S KNOWN AS DART TRANSFORM AND THE BIG INITIATIVES WITHIN DART TRANSFORM.

IT'S A $2.5 BILLION PROGRAM.

IT INCLUDES THE REPLACEMENT OF OUR ROLLING STOCK, OUR FLEET ON THE BUS AND THE RAIL SIDE.

IT INCLUDES UPDATING OUR FACILITIES.

YOU ALL JUST TALKED ABOUT YOUR BOND PROGRAM OR YOUR PROPOSED BOND PROGRAM.

OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE THE SAME NEEDS.

WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF OUR HOUSE IN ORDER TO PROVIDE BETTER SERVICES FOR EVERYONE.

AND SO THAT'S THE OBJECTIVE BEHIND OUR DART TRANSFORM PROGRAM.

I'D LIKE TO SHOW THIS SLIDE BECAUSE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SEAMLESS MOBILITY, IT'S REALLY HELPFUL FOR YOU ALL TO SEE WHAT THE VISION IS.

ON THE LEFT SIDE YOU CAN SEE WHAT OUR EXISTING NETWORK IS TODAY.

THE LINES IN RED ARE OUR FREQUENT SERVICES.

AND YOU CAN SEE AS WE TRANSITION FROM THE LEFT TO THE RIGHT, THAT WE'RE INCREASING THE NUMBER OF RED LINES ON THIS MAP.

AND THE WHOLE IDEA THERE IS TO INCREASE THE FREQUENCIES ON A NUMBER OF OUR LINES SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO MAKE IT POSSIBLE FOR PEOPLE TO TAKE TRANSIT AT ANY TIME, BECAUSE HAVING TO WAIT 15 MINUTES OR 30 MINUTES OR AN HOUR CAN BE QUITE, QUITE SOME TIME AND COULD DETER PEOPLE FROM RIDING.

THIS SLIDE JUST SIMPLY SAYS THAT WE'RE PARTNERING WITH THE LEGACY CONNECT TRANSPORTATION MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATION TO LOOK AT WHAT THE TRANSPORTATION NEEDS ARE IN THE LEGACY

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AREA. HERE WE HAVE I KNOW I'M BLASTING THROUGH THIS, BUT I KNOW WE HAVE LIMITED TIME.

SO HERE WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT SEAMLESS MOBILITY AND THE MOBILITY HUBS THAT WE WANT TO CREATE IN ALL OF OUR CITIES, WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY INTEGRATE AND AGGREGATE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF MOBILITY SERVICES, TRANSPORTATION SERVICES, SO THAT PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY GET TO THEIR FINAL DESTINATION.

WHILE WE'RE AT IT, WE THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO TALK ABOUT THE WAITING EXPERIENCE BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT IN THE TEXAS HEAT, WAITING FOR A RIDE CAN BE JUST AS IMPORTANT AS THE RIDE ITSELF. SO WE HAVE ACTUALLY PARTNERED WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT ARLINGTON ARCHITECTURE SCHOOL.

TO CREATE THESE PROTOTYPE SHELTERS THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY TESTING, WE HAVE FIVE OF THEM DEPLOYED THROUGHOUT THE SERVICE AREA.

ONE OF THEM IS ACTUALLY IN PLANO AT HEDGCOXE AND PRESTON.

AND SO FEEL FREE TO GO OUT THERE AND CHECK IT OUT AND AND LET US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT IT.

SILVER LINE, I THINK THIS SHOULD GO WITHOUT SAYING.

SILVER LINE IS SUPER EXCITING.

OF COURSE IT CONNECTS PLANO TO DFW, SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

AND IT'S ABOUT IT'S OVER 80% COMPLETE AT THIS POINT.

THE CONSTRUCTION, IN FACT, I JUST DROVE PAST THE 12TH STREET STATION ON MY WAY HERE TONIGHT.

AND WE ARE GOING TO OPEN NEXT YEAR.

AND I KNOW THE STAFF CRINGES WHENEVER I SAY THAT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO OPEN NEXT YEAR.

HERE'S SOME PICTURES FROM THE SILVER LINE.

THIS IS SHILOH STATION.

I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH MUCH ABOUT THESE, BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE PRETTY PICTURES AND WE LIKE TO SHOW FINISHED CONSTRUCTION.

THIS ONE'S NOT FINISHED. IT'S THE EQUIPMENT MAINTENANCE FACILITY.

THIS ONE JUST BROKE GROUND RECENTLY.

AND WE'RE EXCITED TO SEE THAT TAKE SHAPE.

THAT WILL BE THE MAINTENANCE FACILITY FOR OUR NEW VEHICLES, WHICH ARE CURRENTLY RESIDING ON THE WEST END OF THE CORRIDOR.

CONTINUING JUST OUTSIDE OF DOWNTOWN.

HERE'S THE 12TH STREET STATION THAT I JUST MENTIONED TO YOU.

AND THEN AND THIS IS ACTUALLY IN COMBINATION WITH THE 12TH STREET STATION.

THIS IS ACTUALLY THE 12TH THE AREA THAT'S THE INFILL LIGHT RAIL STATION.

SO IF YOU'VE BEEN ON THE TRAIN, YOU WILL ACTUALLY GO PAST A STATION THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND THAT IS THIS PARTICULAR STATION.

AND THEN JUST REALLY QUICK, FANTASTIC SPACES.

THIS IS REALLY TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO LEVERAGE BOTH OUR LAND AND TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU ALL WANT TO PARTNER WITH US, LAND THAT YOU OWN ADJACENT TO OUR STATIONS SO THAT WE CAN CREATE BETTER SPACES AND ACTIVATE THE SPACE AND MAKE THEM MUCH MORE PRODUCTIVE FOR THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS FOR THE CITY.

THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF THE TYPES OF PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE.

WE HAVE THREE LOCATIONS WITHIN THE CITY OF PLANO WHERE YOU CAN SEE ON HERE THERE'S A LOW UTILIZATION OF THE PARKING AT THESE LOCATIONS.

SO WE THINK THAT THERE'S A BETTER USE OF THIS SPACE.

AND THEN OF COURSE STRATEGIC RELATIONSHIPS.

I MEAN, THE WHOLE POINT HERE IS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE LEVERAGE ALL RESOURCES, POOL OUR RESOURCES SO THAT WE CAN DO MORE TOGETHER.

AND THAT IS IT.

I'M GOING TO TAKE A BREATH NOW.

I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

YOU GOT TO USE THE.

OH YOU DID GOOD JOB ANTHONY.

GOOD JOB. YOU'RE UP.

I LEARNED QUICKLY, MAYOR.

NO WE HAD EXCELLENT TRAINING FROM MISS HENDERSON EARLIER.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND THANK YOU, MS. LEE FOR THAT GREAT PRESENTATION.

AND IT'S EXCITING TO KNOW ABOUT THE STEPS DART IS TAKING TO MOVE FORWARD.

I DID WANT TO OUTLINE SOME THINGS THAT OBVIOUSLY PLANO AND DART HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING, AND HOPEFULLY FIND SOME COMMON GROUND SO THAT THEN WE CAN WORK TOGETHER ON SOLUTIONS.

ADDRESSING THE ERNST AND YOUNG STUDY THAT WAS COMMISSIONED BY DART, WHICH WE GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT FOUND THAT PLANO IS PAYING IN ABOUT $109.6 MILLION PER YEAR TO THE SYSTEM, AND THAT THE COST OF SERVICE DELIVERY IN PLANO IN FISCAL YEAR 2023, WAS ABOUT $44.6 MILLION, WHICH OBVIOUSLY IS $65 MILLION LESS THAN PLANO'S CONTRIBUTION.

I GUESS, FIRST OF ALL, DOES DART AGREE THAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE ACCURATE? SO SO I THINK YOU'RE AWARE THAT DART DID NOT PARTICIPATE IN THAT STUDY IN TERMS, I MEAN, WE PROVIDED DATA AND INFORMATION, BUT WE DIDN'T WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY OPINE ON THE METHODOLOGY.

AND IN FACT, THE CITY MANAGERS FROM THE 13 SERVICE AREA CITIES DID SO WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE METHODOLOGY.

WE'VE ONLY JUST GOTTEN THE METHODOLOGY.

SO WE'RE JUST UNPACKING IT RIGHT NOW.

SO I CAN'T SAY RIGHT NOW IF I AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH IT.

I DO KNOW THAT OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THE STUDY, YOU KNOW, REPORTS OUT ON REVENUES AND EXPENSES, RIGHT.

SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN VALUE.

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SO SO I GUESS TO YOUR POINT OR TO YOUR QUESTION YOU KNOW, WE SAT DOWN WITH MAYOR MUNS AND MR. ISRAELSON LAST WEEK AND WE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT PLANO, THE CITY OF PLANO WOULD LIKE TO SEE.

AND I KNOW THAT THE BOARD CHAIR, GARY SLAGEL, IS GOING TO START ON THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE BOARD TOMORROW, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A WORKSHOP ABOUT THIS VERY TOPIC IN JANUARY.

WELL, AND THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR HAVING THAT WORKSHOP.

I GUESS IF THOSE NUMBERS ARE ACCURATE, WOULD DART AGREE THAT THAT REPRESENTS A PROBLEM THAT WE WOULD NEED TO WORK TOGETHER TO FIND A SOLUTION FOR. SO, I MEAN, I THINK THE WAY I WOULD RESPOND TO THAT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THAT IS A SNAPSHOT IN TIME THAT'S BASED ON FY 23 NUMBERS.

AND I THINK THE BALANCE OF, YOU KNOW, REVENUES AND EXPENSES CHANGES FROM YEAR TO YEAR.

CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, NEXT YEAR I GUESS WOULD BE THE YEAR AFTER WHEN THE SILVER LINE OPENS.

THAT NUMBER IS GOING TO CHANGE TOO.

AND SO I THINK THE BOARD IS LOOKING FOR A WAY TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS AND THOSE ISSUES IN A WAY THAT CAN BE EQUITABLE, NO MATTER WHO THE DONOR OR THE DONEE SITUATION WILL BE AT ANY GIVEN TIME.

AND SO THAT'S IT'S CHALLENGING, RIGHT.

BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LIKE HOW FAR BACK DO YOU GO AND, AND THAT SORT OF THING.

AND THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND I COMPLETELY RECOGNIZE THAT.

IS THERE ANY REASON TO BELIEVE, THOUGH, THAT THE SITUATION HAS BEEN MATERIALLY DIFFERENT IN PRIOR YEARS? I UNDERSTAND GOING FORWARD, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING THE SILVER LINE COME ONLINE, BUT IS THERE ANY REASON TO BELIEVE THAT THAT HAS NOT BEEN KIND OF THE STATUS QUO FOR A WHILE? SO THE QUESTION, I THINK IS HOW LONG HAS THAT STATUS QUO BEEN? BECAUSE I THINK IF WE WENT BACK FAR ENOUGH IN TIME AND I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR, I THINK WE WOULD FIND THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES MIGHT HAVE BEEN CONSIDERED THE DONOR CITIES INSTEAD OF WHAT THEY ARE TODAY.

SO BECAUSE I THINK IT HAS CHANGED OVER TIME.

I MEAN, I THINK, I THINK THE POINT THAT WE RECOGNIZE IS THAT THINGS HAVE CHANGED OVER TIME, RIGHT? I MEAN, THE CITY OF PLANO HAS BEEN VERY DILIGENT ABOUT CREATING OPPORTUNITIES TO GENERATE SALES TAX REVENUE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AS HAVE A NUMBER OF THE OTHER CITIES.

AND SO THINGS CHANGE, RIGHT? I MEAN, 40 YEARS AGO, THINGS WERE VERY DIFFERENT.

SURE. CERTAINLY THINGS WERE DIFFERENT 40 YEARS AGO.

I GUESS, YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO ASK, YOU KNOW, IF WE ASSUME THAT THAT IS, IN FACT, THE SITUATION.

AND, YOU KNOW, AS IF THERE'S A REASON WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THAT ERNST AND YOUNG STUDY WITH SKEPTICISM.

YOU KNOW, I'D LOVE TO HEAR THAT, BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD ONE YET.

YOU KNOW, DOES DART HAVE ANY IDEA HOW THAT IMBALANCE CAME TO BE? I SO AGAIN, WE ONLY JUST GOT THE METHODOLOGY.

SO I THINK ONCE WE HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE METHODOLOGY AND ASK WHY A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS, I THINK WE'LL HAVE A LOT MORE CLARITY AROUND THAT.

SO I APOLOGIZE THAT I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION RIGHT NOW.

BUT CERTAINLY IT'S NOT FOR LACK OF DESIRE TO WANT TO UNDERSTAND IT BETTER.

OKAY. WELL, AND THANK YOU FOR THAT COMMITMENT TO UNDERSTAND IT BETTER.

AND I'M HOPING IN THE NEAR FUTURE, AFTER DART DIGS INTO THAT METHODOLOGY, WE CAN WE CAN HAVE A FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.

DOES DART HAVE THOUGHTS ON A GENERAL MOBILITY PROGRAM THAT WOULD RETURN 25% OF SAY, PLANO'S CONTRIBUTION TO PLANO FOR TRANSIT RELATED INFRASTRUCTURE LIKE STREETS AND SIDEWALKS THAT ARE OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, PART OF PART AND PARCEL OF THE TRANSPORTATION THAT DART IS A PART OF THE TRANSPORTATION ECOSYSTEM, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY.

I THINK DART IS INTERESTED IN, YOU KNOW, ENSURING THAT WHATEVER DOLLARS WE HAVE GET USED FOR THE APPROPRIATE USES ALLOWED BY 452 AND TO ADVANCE TRANSPORTATION IN RECOGNITION OF THE FACT THAT WE HAVE 20, YOU KNOW, LIKE, I'M SORRY, IN 20 YEARS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE 50% MORE PEOPLE, RIGHT? SO I DON'T THINK THE NEED FOR BETTER TRANSPORTATION IS GOING TO GO AWAY.

AND SO THE QUESTION THEN BECOMES, HOW ARE THOSE FUNDS BEST SPENT? AND I ALSO WANTED TO TOUCH ON SOMETHING THAT YOU ALLUDED TO, WHICH IS POPULATION GROWTH AND DEMOGRAPHIC CHANGES.

OBVIOUSLY, ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT CHANGES SINCE 1983, WHEN DART WAS FOUNDED, IS THAT DART SERVICE AREA BOUNDARIES ARE, YOU KNOW, NOT REALLY CONTIGUOUS WITH, YOU KNOW, THE EXTENT OF MAJOR POPULATION CENTERS IN THE DALLAS AREA ANYMORE.

YOU KNOW, IT USED TO BE WHEN I WAS A KID GROWING UP IN PLANO, YOU KNOW, FRISCO, ALLEN AND MCKINNEY WERE SMALL TOWNS, RIGHT? AND CERTAINLY FARTHER NORTH THAN THAT WAS, WAS, YOU KNOW, FARMS. AND SO.

NOW, THOSE ARE BIG CITIES.

AND WHEN YOU'RE TRAVELING FROM PLANO TO A DESTINATION ON DART, YOU CAN REALLY ONLY GO SOUTH, SOUTHEAST OR SOUTHWEST.

RIGHT. EVEN WITH THE SILVER LINE OPENING, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GOING TO BE KIND OF SOUTHWEST TOWARD DFW.

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SOME CITIES IN DART'S SERVICE AREA CAN GO EVERY DIRECTION.

YOU KNOW, LEAVING THEIR CITY IN ANY DIRECTION ON DART.

AND I SUSPECT THAT THAT'S PART OF THE REASON FOR THE IMBALANCE THAT THE ERNST AND YOUNG STUDY FOUND THAT YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A LOT OF TRIPS THAT ONE WOULD TAKE FROM PLANO THAT YOU CAN'T TAKE ON DART BECAUSE THEY WOULD LEAVE DART'S SERVICE AREA.

AND SO I WAS WONDERING WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS WERE ON DART ENTERING INTO ILAS WITH CITIES TO THE NORTH OF PLANO? POSSIBLY EVEN ENTIRELY AT DART EXPENSE TO DELIVER SERVICES FROM PLANO TO ADJACENT CITIES THAT MIGHT HELP TO DELIVER MORE VALUE TO PLANO RESIDENTS, BECAUSE THEN YOU COULD GO MORE DIRECTIONS FROM PLANO ON DART.

YEAH. SO THANK YOU FOR FOR ALL OF THAT BECAUSE AND I APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR VIEW TOWARDS THE FUTURE BECAUSE I CAME FROM LOS ANGELES, WHERE THERE ARE VERY DECENTRALIZED ACTIVITY CENTERS THROUGHOUT LOS ANGELES COUNTY, WHICH MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT TO PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, A REALLY GOOD CORE YOU KNOW, RAIL SYSTEM, BUS LESS SO BUS IS MUCH EASIER TO DEPLOY.

AND SO AS I LOOK INTO THE FUTURE IN THIS REGION, I'M INCREASINGLY CONCERNED THAT THAT OUR WE HAVE LIMITATIONS BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE INFRASTRUCTURE WAS ENVISIONED BACK IN THE DAY.

AND SO BECAUSE THINGS HAVE BEEN CHANGING, I DO THINK THERE'S SOME VALUE IN LOOKING AT HOW WE ENSURE THAT THERE'S CONNECTIVITY, YOU KNOW, TO THE NORTH, EVEN BEYOND PLANO.

RIGHT. I THINK SOME EXCITING THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING RICHARDSON IS A GREAT SORT OF HUB THAT'S KIND OF FORMING OUT OF KIND OF THE WAY WE'VE DONE OUR SYSTEM IN THE PAST.

CARROLLTON IS BECOMING A GREAT HUB.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY REAL OPPOSITION TO WORKING WITH THE WHAT WE CALL THE 14TH CITY VIS A VIS THE TRANSIT 2.0 STUDY.

SO THAT'S JUST THE CITY'S RIGHT OUTSIDE OF OUR SERVICE AREA.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY REAL OPPOSITION TO WORKING WITH THEM TO PROVIDE SERVICES.

NOT REALLY AT THE EXPENSE OF OUR CURRENT SERVICE AREA CITIES, BUT TO WORK WITH THEM ON HOW WE CAN ACTUALLY PROVIDE THAT CONNECTIVITY THAT I THINK HELPS SERVE THE PLANO'S, THE CARROLLTON'S, THE IRVING'S OF THE WORLD, THE ROWLETT'S TO MAKE SURE THAT WE YOU KNOW, GET PEOPLE CONNECTED IN SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE INTO YOUR CITY, I HOPE.

AND THEN MAKING SURE VIS A VIS THE MOBILITY HUBS THAT I TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT AGO MAKING SURE THAT ONCE THEY GET TO YOUR CITY, THEY HAVE A WAY TO CONNECT BACK TO THEIR FINAL DESTINATION, SO THAT, AGAIN, SO THAT THEY'RE NOT DRIVING THROUGH YOUR CITY AND CONGESTING YOUR CITY STREETS.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT RESPONSE.

AND JUST A FINAL COMMENT I WOULD MAKE IS THAT I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT CITIES TO THE NORTH OF PLANO, I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS THAT CITIES ARE PERHAPS NOT CLAMORING TO JOIN DART IS EVEN BEFORE ERNST AND YOUNG PUT A NUMBER ON IT, I THINK WE'VE KIND OF KNOWN THAT PLANO IS SUBSIDIZING OTHER PARTS OF THE SYSTEM AND NOT RECEIVING AN INVESTMENT IN PLANO THAT'S COMMENSURATE TO PLANO'S INVESTMENT IN DART.

AND I THINK THAT CITIES TO THE NORTH OF US ARE PROBABLY LOOKING AT THAT VALUE PROPOSITION.

AND IT'S NOT LOOKING VERY ENTICING, WHICH OBVIOUSLY IS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM FOR THE WHOLE REGION, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE POPULATION DOES NOT END AT PLANO'S NORTHERN BOUNDARY ANYMORE, YOU KNOW, TO THE EXTENT THAT IT EVER DID.

CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, COLLIN COUNTY IS GROWING AND BOOMING.

AND SO I THINK THERE'S GOT TO BE A SOLUTION TO THAT.

BUT I THINK THERE CAN'T BE A SOLUTION TO THAT UNTIL THE VALUE PROPOSITION FOR A CITY LIKE PLANO CHANGES.

AND ONE THING I WOULD SUGGEST IS THAT GIVEN THAT PLANO APPEARS TO BE SUBSIDIZING THE SYSTEM, AT LEAST IN THAT SNAPSHOT IN FY 2023 BY $65 MILLION, THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THAT SUBSIDY COULD BE USED TO ENTICE CONNECTIONS TO THE NORTH.

SO ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO.

YEAH. PUT THAT IDEA OUT THERE.

NO, THANK YOU FOR THAT. THERE ARE SOME LIKE VERY PRELIMINARY THOUGHTS AROUND HOW WE TRY TO CAPTURE SOME REVENUE FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING IN FROM THE NORTH AND USING THE SERVICES THAT YOU ALL AND THE WHOLE SERVICE AREA HAVE PAID FOR.

SO YOU KNOW, WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THAT.

AND THE BEAUTY OF TECHNOLOGY IS THAT THAT'S POSSIBLE THESE DAYS.

YOU KNOW, TEN YEARS AGO THAT WAS PROBABLY NOT POSSIBLE.

SO WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY WAYS THAT WE CAN CAPTURE SOME REVENUES THERE.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR OPENNESS TO THAT.

AND THEN I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE YOU TO REALLY LOOK AT THAT GENERAL MOBILITY PROGRAM TO RETURN SOME FUNDS TO PLANO.

AND I'M SORRY, I KNOW I HAD A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANTHONY, I'M TRYING TO GET EVERYBODY ELSE.

ABSOLUTELY. QUESTION. SHELBY.

THANK YOU, MS. LEE.

KIND OF ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT COUNCILMAN RICCIARDELLI WAS TALKING ABOUT WITH OUR NEIGHBORS TO THE NORTH, PRINCIPALLY AND REALLY, NO OTHER CITIES HAVE WANTED TO JOIN DART

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IN DECADES.

WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO TRY TO MAKE THE SYSTEM AND THE VALUE PROPOSITION TO THOSE CITIES MORE ENTICING? BECAUSE WE KIND OF AT THE CORNER OF THE MAP, EVEN WITH THE ERNST AND YOUNG STUDY YOU KNOW, BEING 65, SOME ODD MILLION DOLLARS UNDERWATER, I THINK THAT'S I THINK THE REAL PICTURE IS EXACERBATED A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE EVEN FROM THE RIDERSHIP WE DO HAVE, A LOT OF IT'S COMING FROM OUR NEIGHBORS TO THE NORTH.

AND WHEN THE SILVER LINE COMES ONLINE, JUST BECAUSE IT CUTS THROUGH A SLIVER OF PLANO, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE GETTING RIDERS ATTRIBUTED TO PLANO, WHICH AREN'T REALLY IN PLANO AND NOT REALLY TO THE BENEFIT OF PLANO.

AND IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO CAPTURE THAT.

AND SO NEVER MIND ARE WE GETTING TRAFFIC MAINLY ON THE PARK AND RIDE AND THE LIGHT RAIL FROM OUR AREA NEIGHBORS WHO ARE NOT DART MEMBER CITIES, BUT EVEN THE SERVICES WE HAVE IN PLANO AREN'T WELL UTILIZED.

I WOULD SAY WE HAVE, I THINK YOU SAID EIGHT BUS ROUTES IN PLANO.

AND I SEE THAT I'M GLAD TO SEE GOLINK INCREASING IN PROPORTION FOR POST-PANDEMIC RIDERSHIP.

IT'S ONE OF THE ASPECTS OF DART THAT WORKS BEST.

BUT OUT OF THOSE EIGHT BUS ROUTES, HOW MUCH OF THE BUS RIDERSHIP, WHICH IS STILL SIGNIFICANTLY DOWN COMPARED TO PRE-PANDEMIC.

HOW MUCH OF THE BUS RIDERSHIP IS ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE PARK AND RIDE VERSUS THE OTHER ROUTES? BECAUSE WE EVERYBODY DRIVING AROUND PLANO CAN SEE THE EMPTY BUSSES.

I SAW AN EMPTY BUS DRIVE PAST A PERSON WHO WAS WAITING FOR A BUS LAST MONTH.

BUT HOW? WELL, FIRST FOR THE BUS ROUTES.

OKAY. I'M SORRY.

I WAS TRYING TO FOLLOW YOUR QUESTION.

SO YOU ASKED ABOUT HOW MANY.

HOW MUCH OF THE RIDERSHIP IS ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE PARK AND RIDE THE EXPRESS BUS? OH. THE EXPRESS. I HAVE AN ESTEEMED COLLEAGUE HERE WHO CAN PROBABLY ANSWER THAT QUESTION OFF THE TOP OF HIS HEAD.

YES. ROB SMITH, VICE PRESIDENT OF SERVICE PLANNING AND SCHEDULING FOR DART.

VERY LITTLE OF THE BUS RIDERSHIP IN PLANO IS ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE PARK AND RIDES, ALTHOUGH YOU'VE GOT SOME TRANSFER ACTIVITY AT PARKER ROAD STATION AS AN EXAMPLE. ACTUALLY, MOST OF THE PLANO RIDERSHIP IS COMING TO OR FROM DALLAS.

ABOUT 68% OF THE TRANSIT RIDERSHIP IS TO OR FROM DALLAS.

RICHARDSON IS THE NEXT LARGEST PERCENTAGE AND A SMALL AMOUNT FROM GARLAND AND THE NORTHERN CITIES BEFORE THE PANDEMIC CONTRIBUTED A MUCH LARGER PERCENTAGE, BUT IN THE MOST RECENT COG SURVEY, IT WAS ABOUT 7 OR 8% THAT WERE COMING INTO THE DART SERVICE AREA TO RIDE.

OKAY, THEN MY FINAL QUESTION.

IN THE END, I WANT TO LET COUNCILWOMAN HOLMER.

OKAY. WELL I'LL LEAVE IT FOR NOW WITH THE QUESTION ABOUT WHAT IS DART DOING TO TRY TO ATTRACT ADDITIONAL MEMBER CITIES TO THE NETWORK, ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE OF US ON THE FRINGES OF THE SYSTEM? YEAH. WELL, IT'S FUNNY YOU ASKED THAT BECAUSE I ACTUALLY HAVE A MEETING WITH THE CITY OF MCKINNEY THIS WEEK.

SO SO WE'RE STARTING THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

I THINK MUCH LIKE THE WORK THAT WE WOULD WANT TO DO WITH OUR EXISTING SERVICE AREA CITIES WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR TRANSPORTATION NEED IS SO THAT WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW WE PULL TOGETHER A PACKAGE THAT ACTUALLY COULD BE ATTRACTIVE TO THEM.

I'M NOT STARTING FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF YOU MUST JOIN OR ELSE WE CAN'T SERVE YOU.

MY PERSPECTIVE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE SOME TRANSPORTATION NEEDS RIGHT NOW.

WE MAY BE ABLE TO HELP THEM BY ALLOWING THEM A CONTRACTING MECHANISM TO PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, A GOLINK SERVICE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

OBVIOUSLY, WE WOULD NOT PAY FOR THAT OURSELVES, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE USING YOUR FUNDS AND EVERYONE ELSE'S FUNDS TO PAY FOR A SERVICE.

SO WE WOULD ASK THEM TO PAY FOR IT JUST LIKE THEY DO RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE WE DO WORK WITH THEM.

THE MCKINNEY URBAN.

I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER WHAT THE ACRONYM IS, BUT URBAN NOT URBAN TRANSIT DISTRICT.

BUT MCKINNEY DOES HAVE AN ARRANGEMENT WITH US CURRENTLY TO USE OUR CONTRACTING AUTHORITY TO HELP PROVIDE SOME OF THE SERVICES.

NOW WE HAVE A POLICY, A BOARD POLICY 3.07, THAT ALLOWS US TO DO THAT FOR ANY OF OUR NON SERVICE AREA CITIES FOR UP TO THREE YEARS, AT WHICH TIME THEY HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION IF THEY'RE GOING TO JOIN DART OR NOT.

BUT THAT'S YOU KNOW TO ME I'M MUCH MORE INTERESTED IN ALLOWING THEM THE MECHANISM FOR PROVIDING THE SERVICE, HOPEFULLY SO THAT WE CAN GET PEOPLE CONNECTED IN VIA A SERVICE THAT THEY ARE PAYING FOR.

SO THAT IT'S NOT USING UP THE SERVICES THAT YOU ALL HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO PAYING FOR.

SO THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING TO START THAT'S THE INTEREST I HAVE IN MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN HELP THEM GET THEIR SERVICES UP AND RUNNING, AND THEN WE CAN MAKE ARRANGEMENTS LATER ON IF THEY SHOULD DECIDE TO JOIN.

BUT IN THE MEANTIME, THEY WILL PAY FOR THOSE SERVICES IN FULL SO THAT IT'S NOT TAKING AWAY FROM THE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE TODAY.

OKAY, THAT'S ALL FOR NOW.

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

I'M GOING TO START THE REGULAR MEETING, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU IN JUST JUST A FEW MINUTES.

OH, OKAY. IF YOU DON'T MIND.

JUST UP TO YOU.

OKAY.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.