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PLEASE RISE AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
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WITH US AND I SEE A LOT OF STAFF HERE SEEING HOW WE DO SO, JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING GOES WRONG DOESN'T MEAN IT'S TECHNOLOGY.SO WITH THAT SAID, I'LL MOVE US TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
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CONSENT AGENDA.ITEMS MAY BE REMOVED FROM THIS AGENDA FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION BY COMMISSIONERS OR STAFF.
DOES ANY COMMISSIONER WISH TO REMOVE ANYTHING FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA? COMMISSIONER LINGENFELTER.
I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LINGENFELTER.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BRONSKY TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED.
SO THANK YOU ALL FOR JOINING US TONIGHT.
ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. UNLESS INSTRUCTED OTHERWISE BY THE CHAIR.
SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER REGISTRATIONS ARE RECEIVED.
THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY MODIFY THESE TIMES AS DEEMED NECESSARY.
ADMINISTRATIVE CONSIDERATION ITEMS MUST BE APPROVED IF THEY MEET CITY DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
[1A. (JK) Public Hearing – Preliminary Replat: Plano West Senior High School, Block A, Lot 1R – Public school on one lot on 42.8 acres located at the northwest corner of Parker Road and Willow Bend Drive. Zoned Agricultural and Single-Family Residence-9. Project #PR2024-033. Applicant: Plano Independent School District. (Administrative consideration)]
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE A IS A PRELIMINARY REPLAT FOR PLANO WEST SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL.APPLICANT IS PLANO INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT.
THIS ITEM IS FOR ADMINISTRATIVE CONSIDERATION.
[1B. (JK) Public Hearing – Preliminary Replat & Revised Site Plan: Plano West Senior High School, Block A, Lot 2R – Public school on one lot on 58.1 acres located at the southwest corner of Willow Bend Drive and Yeary Road. Zoned Agricultural and Single-Family Residence-9. Projects #PR2024-034 and #RSP2024-057. Applicant: Plano Independent School District. (Administrative consideration)]
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE B IS FOR PRELIMINARY REPLAT AND REVISED SITE PLAN FOR PLANO WEST SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL.THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED AGRICULTURAL AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE NINE.
APPLICANT IS PLANO INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT.
THIS ITEM IS FOR ADMINISTRATIVE CONSIDERATION.
MY NAME IS JOHN KIM, PLANNER WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
ON THE SCREEN HERE IS THE LOT 1R OF THE PLANO WEST HIGH SCHOOL, AND THIS ONE IS THE PRELIMINARY REPLAT ONLY, AND THEN HERE IS THE PROPOSED PLAN.
HERE IS LOT 2R WHICH IS JUST NORTH OF LOT 1R, AND HERE'S THE PLOT, AND THEN HERE IS THE REVISED SITE PLAN. SO STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL FOR ITEM ONE.
A PRELIMINARY REPORT, AND ITEM 1B THE PRELIMINARY PLAT, SUBJECT TO ADDITIONS AND ALTERATIONS TO THE ENGINEERING PLANS AS REQUIRED BY THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, AND FOR THE REVISED SITE PLAN ON ITEM 1B, IT IS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL SUBJECT TO PLANO PLANO FIRE RESCUE APPROVAL OF A VARIANCE TO THE 150 FOOT HOSE LAY REQUIREMENT. I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
COMMISSION, DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ITEM? ITEM ONE A OR ONE B? COMMISSIONER ALALI.
SO I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT'S THE, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE BLANK AREA IN BETWEEN THE LOTS 1R AND 2R, LIKE ON PAGE 38 ON OUR PACKAGE.
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SO LIKE ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF HERE? NO, THE ONE BEFORE THIS ONE.YEAH. SEE, LIKE THERE'S A WHITE AREA IN BETWEEN THE.
SO THERE'S A HATCHED AREA AND THERE'S LIKE A WHITE.
THE LINE YOU SEE ON PAGE 38 IS THE 200 FOOT NOTICE BOUNDARY.
OKAY, AND MY OTHER QUESTION LIKE ON THE WHERE THE TENNIS COURTS ARE GOING TO BE.
IT SAYS LIKE IT WAS PARKING AND IT'S LIKE TWO LOTS 1R RIGHT.
YES. SO WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THIS PARKING.
SO THERE WAS A PARKING PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT WITH THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2012, I BELIEVE, AND SO THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT TO ALLOW DEFERRED PARKING.
I BELIEVE IT WAS 500 SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE 500 SPACES, AND THAT WAS ALLOWED TO DEFER IF THAT WAS EVER NEEDED IN THE FUTURE, AND THEN WITH THE REVISED PLANS THERE WAS A REDUCTION TO THE PARKING NEEDED FOR LOT ONE, AND SO THE 20% REDUCTION WAS GRANTED AS WELL AS THE VARIANCE FROM THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS, AND SO THAT PARKING EVENT, THAT PARKING EASEMENT IS NOW GONE THROUGH THIS.
SO IT'S NOT THE WHOLE THING IS NOT NEEDED ANYMORE.
THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NOPE. COMMISSIONER ALALI, DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION? NO. OKAY. OKAY.
HAS PLANO FIRE RESCUE APPROVED THE VARIANCE TO THE 150 FOOT HOSE LAY REQUIREMENT? YES, THEY HAVE. THEY HAVE TOLD ME THAT THEY INTEND TO APPROVE IT.
OH, THEY INTEND TO APPROVE IT? THEY HAVEN'T FORMALLY DONE IT YET.
WELL, THEY HAVE SENT ME A LETTER.
I GUESS I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW THEY FORMALLY APPROVE IT, BUT THEY HAVE TOLD ME THAT IT IS.
DO WE STILL NEED TO ADD THE, THE CONDITION TO A MOTION APPROVING THIS? IF THEY'VE ALREADY APPROVED IT, THEN THERE'S NO NEED FOR A CONDITION BASED ON THEIR FUTURE APPROVAL.
COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE. THANK YOU, MR. KIM. ALL RIGHT. I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT HERE TONIGHT THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? IF NOT, DO WE HAVE ANY REGISTERED SPEAKERS? WE DO NOT. OKAY, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
RESERVE THE COMMENTS TO THE COMMISSION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER OLLEY. I MOVE, WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE A AND ONE B PRELIMINARY REPLAT, SUBJECT TO ADDITIONS AND ALTERATIONS TO THE ENGINEERING PLANS AS REQUIRED BY ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
APPARENTLY YOU GUYS HIT YOUR BUTTON AT THE SAME TIME, SO I'M GOING TO GO WITH MR. BROUNOFF. OKAY.
COMMISSIONER LINGENFELTER AND BENDER, DO YOU ALL HAVE COMMENTS YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE BEFORE THE VOTE? NO. NO.
OKAY. IF EVERYBODY WILL CAST THEIR VOTE, PLEASE.
I MOVE WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE B SUBJECT TO APPROVAL BY PLANO.
FIRE AND RESCUE OF THE VARIANCE TO THE 150 FOOT HOSE LAY REQUIREMENT.
WITH THE MOTION INCLUDE ALSO SUBJECT TO ADDITIONS AND ALTERATIONS TO THE ENGINEERING PLANS, AND ALSO SUBJECT TO ALTERATIONS AS RECOMMENDED BY THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION? SEEING NONE.
[2. (MC) Public Hearing – Zoning Case 2024-020: Request to amend Planned Development71-Regional Commercial to modify development standards and the adopted open space plan on 89.1 acres located on the west side of the Dallas North Tollway, 305 feet north of Park Boulevard. Zoned Planned Development-71-Regional Commercial with Specific Use Permit No. 570 for Automobile Leasing/Renting and located within the Dallas North Tollway Overlay District. Tabled on November 4, 2024. Project #ZC2024-020. Petitioner: Centennial Waterfall Willow Bend, LLC, The Neiman Marcus Group, LLC, Macy’s Retail Holdings, LLC, and Dillard’s Inc. (Request to table to January 6, 2025)]
89.1 ACRES LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY, 305FT NORTH OF PARK BOULEVARD.[00:10:03]
THE PROPERTY IS ZONED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT 71 REGIONAL COMMERCIAL, WITH SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 570 FOR AUTOMOBILE LEASING, RENTING, AND IS LOCATED WITHIN THE DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY OVERLAY DISTRICT.PRACTITIONERS ARE A CENTENNIAL WATERFALL, WILLOW BEND LLC, THE NEIMAN MARCUS GROUP LLC, MACY'S RETAIL HOLDINGS, LLC, AND DILLARD'S, INC. THIS ITEM WAS TABLED ON NOVEMBER 4TH, 2024.
COMMISSION. MY NAME IS MOLLY CORYELL, SENIOR PLANNER WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, AND I APOLOGIZE.
MY SCREEN IS SHOWING A DIFFERENT.
I THINK THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE NORMAL.
STAFF DID MEET WITH THE APPLICANTS THE WEEK BEFORE THANKSGIVING TO GO OVER THE PROPOSED CONCEPT PLAN REVISIONS, AND THEY ARE LOOKING INTO A DESIGN THAT WOULD INCLUDE MORE TOWNHOMES THAN PREVIOUSLY PROPOSED.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? DOES THE COMMISSION HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? COMMISSIONER BRONSKY.
I HAVE A CONCERN THAT MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MAKING WISE USE OF YOUR TIME AS WELL AS THE STAFF AND WITH ALL OF THE HOLIDAYS AND THINGS, AND THIS HAVING BEEN TABLED ONCE.
NOW, I WONDER IF YOU GUYS MIGHT FEEL A LITTLE MORE COMFORTABLE HAVING IT TABLED TO THE JANUARY 21ST PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING TO BE SURE THAT EVERYTHING CAN BE DONE, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS A THIRD TIME.
I DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO DO IT A THIRD TIME.
MR. DAHLSTROM, I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU.
JUST INTRODUCE YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
I'M SORRY. BILL DAHLSTROM, 2323 ROSS AVENUE.
THANK YOU. REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.
AS MISS CORYELL SAID, WE DID MEET WITH THE CITY STAFF A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
SO IF WE CAN KEEP THE JANUARY 6TH AGENDA, WE WOULD PREFER THAT.
YES, SIR. YES, SO I'M NOT OPPOSED TO KEEPING IT ON THE ON THAT DAY.
I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE ANY MORE CHANGES FROM WHAT WE'VE SEEN, BUT I DO APPRECIATE IT.
WE I FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT WE ARE.
ALL RIGHT. I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING IT THEN.
ALL RIGHT. COMMISSION, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? SEEING NONE, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS REGISTERED FOR THIS ITEM? WE DO NOT. CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
COMMISSIONER LINGENFELTER, I MOVE THAT WE GRANT THE APPLICANT TO BE ABLE TO TABLE THIS ITEM TO THE JANUARY 6TH MEETING.
ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER BRONSKY, I SECOND.
THERE WE GO. EVERYBODY PLEASE VOTE.
ALL RIGHT. THAT PASSED 8 TO 0, BUT THEN OUR SCREENS WENT BLANK.
I APOLOGIZE, COMMISSIONERS, WE NEED A MINUTE.
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THERE WE GO. THAT'S WHERE WE LEFT OFF.ALL RIGHT. ARE WE BACK? WE'RE BACK.
COMMISSIONER'S ARE WE GOOD? OH, YOU DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT SCREEN.
DO WE NEED A RECESS FOR A MINUTE? LET YOU ALL WORK ON THIS, OR DO WE THINK WE CAN GET THERE? ONE MORE MINUTE. OKAY.
ONE MORE MINUTE, AND THEN WE'LL TAKE A RECESS IF WE NEED TO.
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ARE WE BACK? YES, SIR.[3. (MC) Conveyance Plat: Oncor Cloud Station, Block A, Lot 1 – One conveyance lot on 18.6 acres located on the east side of Jupiter Road, 215 feet north of State Highway 190. Zoned Light Industrial-1 and Research/Technology Center and located within the State Highway 190/Plano Parkway Overlay District. Project #COP2024-005. Applicant: Oncor Electric Delivery Company. (Legislative consideration of Subdivision Ordinance variance)]
ALL RIGHT. ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.NON-PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL PERMIT LIMITED PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA NOT POSTED FOR PUBLIC HEARING.
THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL ESTABLISH TIME LIMITS BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKER REQUESTS, LENGTH OF THE AGENDA AND TO ENSURE MEETING EFFICIENCY, AND MAY INCLUDE A TOTAL TIME LIMIT. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE CONVEYANCE PLAT ENCORE CLOUD STATION BLOCK A LOT, ONE FOR ONE CONVEYANCE LOT ON 18.6 ACRES LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF JUPITER ROAD, 215FT NORTH OF STATE HIGHWAY 190.
THIS ITEM IS FOR LEGISLATIVE CONSIDERATION.
THANK YOU. THIS IS A COMPLAINT.
THIS IS A CONVEYANCE PLAT FOR THE EXISTING ENCORE ELECTRICAL TRANSMISSION LINES, AND IS THE SAME SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT AND PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN THAT THE COMMISSION MADE ITS DECISION TO APPROVE ON THE NOVEMBER 18TH P&Z MEETING.
THE SUBDIVISION, AND THEN HERE IS THE GRAPHIC FOR THE PLAN.
TWO POINTS OF ACCESS CANNOT BE OBTAINED BASED ON THE EXISTING CONDITIONS SURROUNDING THE SITE AND THE MINIMUM DISTANCE BETWEEN DRIVEWAYS REQUIRED, AS DICTATED BY THE STREET DESIGN STANDARDS. THEREFORE, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE SUBJECT TO APPROVAL OF THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE VARIANTS, AS WELL AS APPROVAL OF THE RELATED ZONING CASE, WHICH IS SCHEDULED TO GO ON CITY COUNCIL ON THIS DECEMBER 9TH.
THANK YOU, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
COMMISSION. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
COMMISSIONER OLLEY. TWO QUESTIONS.
ONE FOR MY MEMORY AND FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION.
CAN YOU ENLIGHTEN US AS TO WHY WE REQUIRE TWO ACCESS POINTS FOR NONRESIDENTIAL LOT? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. I'LL LET MICHAEL BELL ANSWER THAT.
YES. SO THE PURPOSE IS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY SO THAT THERE ARE TWO POINTS FOR EMERGENCY ACCESS.
ESSENTIALLY, ONE OF THOSE IS REQUIRED TO BE DIRECTLY FROM THE STREET.
THE SECOND CAN BE VIA A SHARED ACCESS EASEMENT FROM ANOTHER PROPERTY.
GOTCHA. WHICH LEADS TO THE SECOND QUESTION.
IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME RIGHT WHEN WE APPROVED THE SUP, THE APPLICANT WALKED US THROUGH THE FIRE SUPPRESSION, SELF-CONTAINED FIRE SUPPRESSION WITHIN THE SITE.
I PRESUME ENGINEERING AND PLANO FIRE GOT THE SAME INFORMATION? YES. THAT'S CORRECT.
COMMISSIONER ALALI? WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A SHARED ACCESS FROM THE LOT, YOU KNOW, LIKE TO THE SOUTH.
DO WE KNOW THAT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, LIKE, IS THERE LIKE A SOMETHING IN WRITING OR DO THEY OWN THIS PROPERTY? THE ACCESS EASEMENT IS ALREADY RECORDED.
SO I JUST PULLED UP THE GRAPHIC AROUND THE RED CIRCLE.
THE VOLUME AND PAGE NUMBER IS A RECORDED DOCUMENT THAT DOES SHOW THAT THE ACCESS EASEMENT IS EXISTING, AND IN ORDER TO HAVE THAT ACCESS EASEMENT REMOVED, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE BY PLAT AND THE CITY WOULD NOT ALLOW THAT ACCESS EASEMENT TO BE REMOVED, BECAUSE IT WOULD ELIMINATE THE ONLY POINT OF ACCESS FOR THIS LOT.
IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, I'M PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION.
I NEED TO SEE IF WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? WE DO NOT. OKAY.
COMMISSIONER BROUNOFF. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE WITH SPECIFIC FINDINGS THAT A SECOND POINT OF ACCESS CANNOT BE OBTAINED, AND THAT TRAFFIC SAFETY AND FIRE PROTECTION ARE SUFFICIENT AT THE SITE.
HANG ON, COMMISSIONER BRONSKY.
SO DOES THAT INCLUDE THE RECOMMENDATIONS BY STAFF AS ENUMERATED ON PAGE 50? YES. AS WELL. YES.
ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROUNOFF.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BRONSKY.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION BY THE COMMISSION? SEEING NONE. EVERYBODY PLEASE VOTE.
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MOTION PASSES 8 TO 0.[4. (MC) Preliminary Site Plan: Jupiter Mobil Addition, Block A, Lot 1 – Convenience store with fueling station on one lot on 0.5 acre located at the southeast corner of 14th Street and Jupiter Road. Zoned Retail. Project #PSP2024-025. Applicant: Texas Prudent Investment, Inc. (Legislative consideration of parking reduction)]
PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN.LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF 14TH STREET AND JUPITER ROAD.
THE APPLICANT IS TEXAS PRUDENT INVESTMENT, INC..
THIS ITEM IS FOR LEGISLATIVE CONSIDERATION.
THANK YOU. THIS THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT OF AN EXISTING FUEL STATION AND TIRE REPAIR SHOP. IT'S LOCATED ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF JUPITER ROAD AND 14TH STREET AND THE PROPOSED PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN SHOWS A REDEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD BE A NEW RETAIL BUILDING THAT WILL REPLACE THE EXISTING TIRE REPAIR BUILDING.
THE APPLICANT IS ALSO REQUESTING A 20% PARKING REDUCTION AS PART OF THIS PROPOSED REDEVELOPMENT, AND THE RED DOTS ON THIS GRAPHIC REPRESENT EACH PROPOSED PARKING SPACE, NONE OF WHICH ARE LOCATED UNDER THE FUEL CANOPY.
WHILE VEHICLES MAY PARK UNDER THE CANOPY TO PURCHASE FUEL, THESE SPACES ARE NOT COUNTED, AND P&Z MAY GRANT UP TO A 20% PARKING REDUCTION, AND PARKING REDUCTIONS CAN BE CONSIDERED BASED ON THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA.
A STAFF ANALYSIS WAS PROVIDED TO THE COMMISSION IN THE STAFF REPORT.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
COMMISSION, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE SETBACKS, LIKE THE 30.
THERE'S 30 AND 50 OR 39 AND 50 SETBACKS.
SO WHY WAS SO? THERE IS A RECORDED 20 FOOT BUILDING LINE SETBACK ALREADY ON THE SITE THAT'S ALREADY EXISTING ON SITE, WHICH IS WHY IT'S BEING SHOWN.
THE 50 FOOT SETBACK IS THE BUILDING SETBACK.
SO IT'S SHOWING THAT THE RETAIL BUILDING IS WITHIN THE 50 FOOT SETBACK.
SO LIKE SO THE DUMPSTERS ARE WITHIN THE 20 FOOT OR SHOULD THEY BE LIKE ON THE 39 OR THE 50? THE REASON WHY I'M ASKING IS BECAUSE YOU'RE LIKE, NOW IT'S SHOWN THAT THE DUMPSTER IS NOT WITHIN THE BUILDING LINE, AND USUALLY THEY YOU REQUEST THAT THE DUMPSTERS ALSO COMPLY WITH THE SETBACKS, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.
SO IN THIS CASE THE 39 FOOT IS SUFFICIENT.
YEAH, BUT YOU KNOW LIKE BUT IT IS ALSO IN YOU KNOW, LIKE IT IS BEYOND THE 39, RIGHT? THERE'S A 20 FOOT BUILDING LINE RECORDED.
SO IS IT LIKE THE 20? THE 20 FOOT BUILDING LINE IS WHAT CONTROLS.
THE REASON I'M ASKING BECAUSE YOU KNOW LIKE, IF IT'S NOT WITHIN THE REQUIRED SETBACK.
THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER OLLEY.
I SEE ONLY ONE ACCESSIBLE PARKING SPACE OUT OF THE 13 ACTUALLY COUNT 12 SPACES. I CAN'T FIND THE 13TH, BUT THAT'S NEITHER HERE NOR THERE.
DO WE HAVE A RATIO REQUIREMENT FOR ACCESSIBLE PARKING SPACES? WE DO, AND I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER, BUT WE DO HAVE LIKE A RANGE FROM TO THIS MANY TO THIS MANY PARKING SPACES.
THIS IS HOW MANY ADA SPACES ARE REQUIRED.
GOING UP TO LIKE 400 PARKING SPACES.
HOWEVER, BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF PARKING SPACES PROPOSED, ONE ADA SPACE IS REQUIRED.
COMMISSIONER. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE ONE.
IS THERE A IS IT AN ORDINANCE THAT WE DON'T COUNT THE SPACES BY THE GAS PUMPS? IT DOESN'T EXPLICITLY SAY IN OUR ORDINANCE THAT WE DON'T COUNT IN THE GAS PUMPS, BUT OUR ORDINANCE DOES HAVE PROVISIONS FOR DRIVEWAY, AISLE DISTANCES, DIMENSIONS AND EVERYTHING
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LIKE THAT, AND SINCE YOU DON'T TYPICALLY STRIPE A PARKING SPACE UNDER A FUEL CANOPY, TYPICALLY, I GUESS BECAUSE IT'S NOT EXPLICITLY MENTIONED FROM MY RECALL, MY RECOLLECTION. THAT'S CORRECT.IF IT'S JUST A CONVENIENCE STORE WHICH IS TREATED LIKE RETAIL, THEN THE PUMPS DO NOT COUNT.
YEAH, IT'S NOT EXPLICITLY WRITTEN THAT WAY, BUT THAT'S BEEN HOW IT'S BEEN APPLIED ACROSS THE CITY.
SO JUST SOMETHING I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT.
ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER BROUNOFF.
THANK YOU. MR. CHAIRMAN. YOU JUST TOUCHED ON WHAT I WANTED TO ASK.
IT SEEMS TO ME WHAT WE DON'T WANT IS PEOPLE PARKING NEXT TO THE GAS PUMP AND THEN GOING INSIDE THE BUILDING TO DO RETAIL SHOPPING AND DEPRIVING PEOPLE OF ACCESS TO THE GAS PUMPS. SO WITH THE 20% REDUCTION, DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH PARKING SPACES REMAINING OF THE 13 TO WHERE THERE SHOULD NOT BE A PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE JUST SORT OF CAMPING OUT AT THE GAS PUMP? THAT IS CORRECT.
I WILL SAY, WHO AMONG US IS NOT GUILTY OF PARKING AT A GAS STATION TO PUT PAY THE CASHIER $20 AND THEN ALSO BUYING A PACK OF TWIZZLERS OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, FOR YOUR GAS, BUT ANYWAYS, YES, BUT THE PURPOSE IS THAT YOU DON'T COUNT THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT REALLY PARKING SPACES, BUT PEOPLE MIGHT PARK THERE, GO INSIDE, PAY FOR GAS, AND THEN COME BACK TO THEIR CAR TO FUEL THEIR VEHICLE, BUT I DON'T MIND THAT.
THAT WOULD BE UPSETTING. YEAH, THAT WOULD BE UPSETTING.
SO MY QUESTION IS YOU'RE REQUESTING A REDUCTION TO 13, BUT WHEN I COUNT THE DOTS, WE'RE AT 14.
THE REQUEST IS 20%, WHICH WOULD BE 13 SPACES.
HOWEVER, THEY ARE SHOWING 14 SPACES ON SITE.
I BELIEVE THAT THIS FLEXIBILITY COULD OFFER SOME REVISIONS IN THE SITE PLAN STAGE.
I THINK IT'S ABOUT 8.5% PER PARKING SPACE THAT THE REDUCTION IS SO.
WELL, MY THOUGHT WAS I NOTICED THAT THERE WAS ONLY ONE HANDICAPPED ACCESSIBLE PARKING, AND I WAS CURIOUS HOW THAT WAS COUNTED, BECAUSE IT SEEMED TO ME THAT WE MIGHT LIKE TO HAVE MORE THAN JUST ONE PLACE FOR A HANDICAPPED ACCESSIBLE PARKING THERE.
A HANDICAPPED SPOT IS COUNTED AS A PARKING SPOT.
THEY ARE? YEAH. THAT'S CORRECT, AND I WANT TO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY ON THE TABLE THAT YOU MENTIONED EARLIER, THERE'S ONE SPACE REQUIRED FOR THE FIRST.
THERE'S ONE HANDICAP ACCESSIBLE SPACE REQUIRED FOR THE FIRST 25 PARKING SPACES.
NO I JUST I'VE SEEN EXTRA HANDICAPPED SPOTS, ESPECIALLY IN GAS STATIONS, AND I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THE 14 THAT I WAS LOOKING AT AS OPPOSED TO THE 13 WE WERE BEING ASKED TO GRANT.
YES, I DO APOLOGIZE FOR THE CONFUSION, BUT I WILL CLEAR UP THAT THERE ARE 14 SPACES ON SITE.
ADA SPACES DO COUNT AS A PARKING SPACE.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO ADD EXTRA ADA SPACES ON TOP OF THE REQUIRED PARKING, SO IT'S 14 SPACES TOTAL.
HOWEVER, 20% WOULD BE 13 SPACES.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THE FLEXIBILITY. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR IN MY OWN HEAD.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE THAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSION? REGISTERED TO SPEAK.
COMMISSIONER LINGENFELTER. SO I THINK YOU'RE FINE WITH THE PARKING, BUT I WOULD JUST.
IS THERE A REASON WHY THEY WENT WITH PARALLEL PARKING ON THAT WEST SIDE INSTEAD OF HEAD IN PARKING? BECAUSE THEY COULD PROBABLY GET ABOUT THREE EXTRA SPOTS IF THEY TURN THAT.
THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION, COMMISSIONER LINGENFELTER.
SO THE RE-COMPOSITION OF THE PARKING SPACES ALLOWED THAT 900FT² ADDITIONAL, I THINK ABOUT 1100 ACTUALLY, BUT THAT WAS FOR THE PURPOSE OF HAVING CORNER LOT LANDSCAPING AT JUPITER AND 14TH.
OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? COMMISSIONER BENDER? NOT NOT A QUESTION FOR STAFF, BUT A COMMENT, AND I JUST POINTING OUT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE ACCOMMODATING AN EXISTING SITE HERE.
RIGHT. SO THERE ARE LIMITATIONS THAT WE'RE ACCOMMODATING WITH THIS EXISTING BUSINESS.
SO YES, IT'S THE PROPOSED IT'S A PROPOSED REDEVELOPMENT.
IT DID NOT REQUIRE CORNER LOT LANDSCAPING AT THE TIME OF ORIGINAL APPROVAL.
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SO THEY ARE WORKING WITH SOME LIMITED SPACE GIVEN WHEN THEY WERE ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED.OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? DO WE HAVE ANY REGISTERED SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? THERE ARE NONE. ALL RIGHT.
COMMISSION? COMMISSIONER BRONSKY.
I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE REDUCTION OF 20% AS REQUESTED AND RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.
SECOND. COMMISSIONER ALALI, GOT YOUR MICROPHONE ON, YEAH? I'LL SECOND. OKAY.
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BRONSKY, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ALALI.
ITEM NUMBER FOUR. ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
[5. (JR) Discussion & Action: Zoning and Subdivision Ordinance Rewrite Diagnostic Report and Project Update – Presentation and discussion of the Zoning and Subdivision Ordinance Rewrite Diagnostic Report and update on project progress. Project #DI2024- 017. ]
I'M SORRY. THAT'S OKAY.ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING. COMMISSION.
MY NAME IS JORDAN ROCKERBIE, SENIOR PLANNER IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
SO DANIEL HARRISON AND DAN SEFKO WILL BE PROVIDING THAT FOR YOU.
IF I COULD ASK YOU TO STAY CLOSE TO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
WE'RE REPRESENTING FREESE NICHOLS AS CONTRACTED BY CITY OF PLANO ON THE REWRITE OF ALL OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING AND SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS AND SO IT'S A LARGE JOB, AND WE'RE VERY APPRECIATIVE THAT THE CITY HAS ENTRUSTED US TO ASSIST YOU ALL IN DOING THIS. SO WITH ME TONIGHT, AS I MENTIONED, IS DANIEL HARRISON.
HE IS THE PROJECT MANAGER, AND HE'S GOING TO MAKE A PRESENTATION HERE IN A FEW MOMENTS.
WE HAVE STARTED WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE REWRITE COMMITTEE.
SO IF YOU DEEM IT APPROPRIATE, WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO ACCEPT THE REPORT, AND THEN IF YOU CHOOSE TO DO SO, WE WILL THEN GO ON AND ASK THE SAME TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
TALK ABOUT A FEW KEY POINTS OF HOW THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS DRIVING OUR INPUT, HOW WE'VE WORKED WITH THE VARIOUS PARTICIPANTS IN THE PROCESS, OUR OUTREACH PROGRAM SOME OF THE MAJOR TOPICS THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING, AND THEN, OF COURSE, LEAVE TIME FOR QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
SO THE FIRST PART IS WE'RE LOOKING AT THE DIAGNOSTIC REPORT.
SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS TAKING A LOOK AT THE CURRENT CODES AND ASKING PEOPLE WHO USE THE ZONING AND THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE THEIR EXPERIENCES, THE FEEDBACK THEY HAVE.
WE GO THROUGH AN ANALYSIS OF BOTH CODES.
WE WORK WITH STAFF TO DEVELOP THE DIAGNOSTIC REPORT, AND SO NOW THAT WE HAVE THE DIAGNOSTIC REPORT AND ARE SHOWING IT TO YOU AND ALSO TO THE COUNCIL, WE'LL MOVE INTO PHASE TWO OF THE PROJECT.
SO IF WE REALLY WANTED TO LOOK AT A PROJECT SUMMARY, IF SOMEONE WAS ASKING YOU WHAT IS THE CODE UPDATE REALLY ABOUT? THE CODE IS REALLY GOING TO POSITION THE CITY FOR THE FUTURE BY IMPLEMENTING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THAT WAS A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS OF LOOKING AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND THAT VISION HAS BEEN SPELLED OUT, AND THE CITY WENT THROUGH A BIG EFFORT TO UPDATE THAT PLAN, AND SO WE ALREADY HAVE A LOT OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE VISION SET OUT IN THAT DOCUMENT, AND THEN THE SECOND PART REALLY IS MODERNIZING AND STREAMLINING THE REGULATIONS FOR THE PROCESS GOVERNED BY THE CODE.
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WE KNOW INFILL AND REDEVELOPMENT IS REALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.WE WANTED A COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND STAKEHOLDER DRIVEN PROCESS.
WE HAD 20 DIFFERENT SESSIONS WITH STAKEHOLDERS.
OVER 70 PEOPLE PARTICIPATED IN THAT.
WE'RE ALSO HAVING A PROJECT WEBSITE UPDATES ON ON THE CITY WEBSITE, AS WELL AS DISCUSSION COUNCIL UPDATES, P&Z UPDATES, OFFICE HOURS THAT WE CAN OFFER THE PUBLIC TO COME AND SIT DOWN AND I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT HOW THIS MAY AFFECT MY PROPERTY.
COULD YOU EXPLAIN THAT? THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE TO DO THAT.
OF COURSE WE'LL HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS, AS YOU KNOW, MOST ZONING AND SUBDIVISION.
WE WILL HAVE THOSE PUBLIC HEARINGS CITYWIDE MAILING NOTICES.
THAT'S PART OF THE PROCESS, TOO, POSTING IN THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS.
SO DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR FOR OUTREACH.
OTHER THEMES, A PROJECT OBJECTIVES.
THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE TO STREAMLINE, REALLY MAKE A USER FRIENDLY DOCUMENT, IMPLEMENT SOME INDUSTRY STANDARDS THAT WE THINK WILL HELP BENEFIT THE CITY AND THE RESIDENTS AND THE BUSINESSES, AND IMPLEMENT THE LAND USE PRIORITIES, AND ONCE AGAIN, THAT BIG ITEM AT THE BOTTOM WAS ALIGNED WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND IN THE DOCUMENT WE SHOW THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS POLICIES AND ACTION ITEMS, AND WE REALLY WANTED TO CONNECT OUR RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE DOCUMENT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
WHAT DID THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SAY ABOUT THAT.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENT POLICIES THAT WE HAVE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND WE HAVE A TABLE.
HERE. SO EVERYONE COULD SEE THAT.
SO LOOKING AT SOME OF THE HIGH PRIORITY.
TOPICS THAT WE HAVE, THE GENERAL ONES ONCE AGAIN TAILORING FOR INFILL AND REDEVELOPMENT.
WE TALKED ABOUT NUMBER TWO CONSOLIDATING THE ZONING AND SUBDIVISION INTO A UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.
SO THEY'LL BE LIVING IN ONE DOCUMENT.
OPTIMIZING THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS AND THE PATH TO SUCCESS.
WE TALKED ABOUT SOME ALTERNATIVE COMPLIANCE, SOME FLEXIBILITY TO ADDRESS SOME OF OUR INFILL AND REDEVELOPMENT NEEDS, AND UTILIZING GRAPHICS AND IMPROVING THE READABILITY OF THE DOCUMENT. LOOKING AT JUST ZONING REASSESSING THE CURRENT ZONING DISTRICTS, WE HAVE SOME OVERLAPS.
WE HAVE SOME DIRECTION FROM THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN TO LOOK AT MIXED USE.
TALKED ABOUT PARKING AT THE LAST ITEM.
SAME HERE. PARKING IS A BIG ISSUE.
SO THAT'S ONE THING THAT WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO ADDRESSING EFFECTIVELY MANAGING HOUSING REGULATIONS WITHIN THE CODE, ONCE AGAIN LOOKING AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THAT GUIDANCE. CALIBRATING THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AND ZONING TO PROMOTE A GOOD, GOOD, GOOD LAND USE OUTCOMES AND PRIORITIZING CONTEXT SENSITIVE OUTCOMES, AND THAT'S LOOKING AT DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY, BECAUSE AS WE HAVE DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY THAT ARE UNIQUE, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO HAVE ONE BLANKET SOLUTION FOR THINGS.
WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT OUR DIFFERENT AREAS TO PROVIDE THE APPROPRIATE SOLUTIONS, AND THEN LASTLY, ON THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, INCREASING THE FLEXIBILITY OF THE SUBDIVISION STANDARDS TO SUPPORT REDEVELOPMENT, THERE'S SOME DISTINGUISHING OF SOME PRIVATE STREET TYPES THAT WERE GOING TO BE HELPFUL, CLARIFYING THE NEED AND THE ROLE OF THE VARIOUS PLAT TYPES, FROM CONVEYANCE PLATS TO DEVELOPMENT PLATS, AND IMPROVING REQUIREMENTS FOR CERTAIN TYPES OF SECURITY.
AFTER TODAY, WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL PRESENT TO THE COUNCIL TO LET THEM SEE THE SAME PRESENTATION AND THEN ONCE AGAIN, REALLY START WORKING ON OUR MODULE DEVELOPMENTS THAT PHASE TWO OF THE CODE UPDATE, AND SO WITH THAT WE'LL I GUESS I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO JORDAN, AND IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS WE'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE.
COMMISSION, I'M GOING TO LEAD OFF IF YOU DON'T MIND.
I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO CHAIR THIS GROUP AND COMMISSIONER BRONSKY AS THE VICE CHAIR OF THAT GROUP AS WELL AND SO WE'VE SAT THROUGH ALL THESE MEETINGS AND I THINK THE BEST WAY I KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT TONIGHT IS A DETAILED SCOPE OF WORK, OF THE WORK WE'RE GOING TO DO.
THIS IS WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THE ANSWERS AT THIS POINT.
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KNOW THE DETAILS AND INS AND OUTS OF HOW THE ZONING ORDINANCE HAS WORKED, BOTH ON THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND THE PUBLIC SECTOR, AND A GREAT CROSS-SECTION.REALLY, REALLY HAVE A STRONG COMMITTEE AND EVERYBODY PARTICIPATES AND DOES THEIR HOMEWORK AND COMES PREPARED TO THE MEETINGS, AND I FEEL LIKE WE'VE HAD SOME REALLY, REALLY GREAT SESSIONS SO FAR.
SO WE'VE HAD WE GOT DOWN TO, I THINK, PUNCTUATION ON THIS DOCUMENT AT OUR LAST MEETING AND I, WE DID HAVE ONE SENTENCE THAT WAS LEFT PENDING TO BE WORDSMITHED AFTER OUR LAST MEETING, AND SO DO YOU HAVE THAT HANDY? CAN YOU THROW THAT UP ON THE SCREEN, OR IS THAT SOMETHING YOU CAN READ OUT LOUD JUST SO THAT COMMISSIONER BRONSKY AND I, GIVEN THAT WE WERE WELL, I GUESS YOU MISSED THE MEETING WHERE WHERE WE WORDSMITH THAT.
SO JUST TO SEE HOW THAT TURNED OUT BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD.
YES. THE LAST PAGE, OUR PAGE 15 OF YOUR DOCUMENT IN THE DIAGNOSTIC REPORT, IT'S ITEM FOUR ONE THREE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ESTABLISHING INFILL AND REDEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, AND THROUGH THAT DISCUSSION, THE LAST SENTENCE WE ADDED, FINALLY, THE NEW CODE SHOULD ESTABLISH PROCEDURES TO EVALUATE INFILL PROJECTS AND TO INCORPORATE STANDARDS TO BETTER ACCOMMODATE INFILL DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT.
YEP. THAT LAST SENTENCE RIGHT THERE.
OKAY. THAT WAS OUR INFILL AND REDEVELOPMENT SENTENCE THAT YOU ALL WERE WORDSMITHING FOR US.
ALL RIGHT. SO WITH WITH ALL THAT SAID, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE COMMISSION.
SO I JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE EVERYTHING THAT OUR CHAIR JUST SAID.
I I'M REALLY HAPPY THAT WE CHOSE FREESE AND NICHOLS TO COME BACK AND WORK WITH US.
I FEEL LIKE THEM LIVING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
TO ME, THIS REALLY IS BRINGING ALL OF THE HARD WORK THAT COUNCIL, P&Z, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMMISSION, AND ALL OF THE OUTREACH AND EFFORTS THAT FREESE AND NICHOLS DID IN DEVELOPING THE NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BRINGING IT TO FINAL IMPLEMENTATION, THE FINAL PIECE OF THE PUZZLE THAT WE STARTED WORKING ON BACK IN, I THINK, 2020.
SO I'M VERY PROUD OF THE EFFORT AND CERTAINLY THE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS THAT WE GOT INVOLVED ON THE COMMITTEE, AS WELL AS CHOOSING YOU GUYS TO WORK WITH US AND FINALLY, I'LL JUST SAY THE INTENTIONAL OUTREACH THAT WE MADE IN COLLECTING ALL OF THIS, YOU GUYS STAYED RIGHT ON POINT WITH BEING PURPOSEFULLY DESIROUS OF HEARING WHAT ALL OF THE COMMUNITY HAS TO SAY SO THAT THE GUIDELINES THAT WE PROVIDE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CAN BE FLUSHED OUT NOW COMPLETELY INTO THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.
THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER OLLEY.
I LIKE EXAMPLES OF THE CITY NOT RESTING ON ITS ACCOLADES AND ALWAYS TRYING TO STRIVE FOR JUST A LITTLE BETTER AND JUST A LITTLE BETTER.
THIS MIGHT COME, AND MAYBE I'M GETTING AHEAD OF MYSELF LOOKING FOR A LITTLE BIT OF A PREVIEW, BUT YOU HAVE SOME LARGE GOALS IN TERMS OF DRAFTING THE CODE LANGUAGE AROUND APPROPRIATE HOUSING MIX THAT REFLECTS THE COMMUNITY'S PREFERENCES, CONSERVING OPEN SPACE.
IF YOU COULD TEASE AS TO HOW WHAT KIND OF FRAMEWORK YOU WOULD BRING TO PLAY TO START I RONING SOME OF THAT LANGUAGE OUT. YOU KNOW, MY FIRST THOUGHT WAS COMMUNITY'S PREFERENCES.
COMMUNITY IN THAT SENTENCE COULD MEAN 10,000 DIFFERENT THINGS, RIGHT? HOW WOULD YOU BRING THE APPROPRIATE VOICES TO BEAR, AS YOU, YOU KNOW, TEASE OUT THIS LANGUAGE? GREAT QUESTION. BECAUSE WHAT WE DO IS WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND SORT OF WHERE WE WERE MOVING FROM THAT AND GETTING THE INPUT, AND AS WE SORT OF OUTLINED IN THE PLAN AND WE DISCUSSED AMONGST OUR REWRITE ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS PLANO HAS DONE A FABULOUS JOB AT GREENFIELD DEVELOPMENT OVER THE DECADES AND OBVIOUSLY AS A RESULT, WE HAVE AN AMAZING COMMUNITY, BUT CONTINUING TO BE A CITY OF EXCELLENCE.
WE LOOK AT HOW ARE WE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD INTO THE REDEVELOPMENT STAGE BECAUSE BECAUSE ALL OUR GREENFIELD DEVELOPMENT IS BASICALLY GONE, AND SO HOW ARE WE GOING TO MASTER AND BE AS GOOD AT REDEVELOPMENT DEVELOPMENT AS WE WERE AT THE ORIGINAL GREENFIELD DEVELOPMENT.
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CAN AND REALLY REFLECTING THE VALUES THAT PEOPLE TOLD US IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROCESS? YEAH, THAT MAKES SENSE, AND I WOULD LOVE TO AND I MAY HAVE MISSED IT IN THE PACKET JUST TO GET A SENSE OF YOUR OUTREACH TOOLS, HOW YOU'RE GETTING THAT VOICE OF THE COMMUNITY. MAYBE THE NEXT ITERATION OF THIS PRESENTATION WILL GET A CHANCE TO SEE THAT.I'LL TURN YOUR MICROPHONE ON. OKAY.
THANK YOU. I'M USED TO PUSHING THE BUTTON TO TURN THE MIC ON, AND I TURNED IT OFF INSTEAD.
I JUST WANT TO START BY THANKING THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE AND FREESE AND NICHOLS AND THE CITY STAFF FOR THE WORK THEY'VE DONE SO FAR O N THIS CHALLENGING TASK, AND I APPRECIATE THE SERIOUSNESS AND THE DILIGENCE THAT YOU'VE DISPLAYED IN GETTING THIS FAR WITH IT.
I AGREE WITH YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT BEFORE YOU CAN HAVE ANSWERS, IT'S NECESSARY TO FIRST IDENTIFY THE QUESTIONS, AND I THINK YOU'VE DONE THAT.
YOU'VE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB OF THAT.
I WOULD JUST OFFER THE COMMENT THAT IN DEVISING ANSWERS, WHICH IS THE NEXT STAGE, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE DOING THAT YOU TRY TO ARRIVE AT A REASONABLE BALANCE BETWEEN STANDARDS WHICH ARE NECESSARY AND SOME DEGREE OF FLEXIBILITY SO THAT WE CAN ADAPT, YOU KNOW, ACTION BY THE CITY TO WHATEVER INDIVIDUAL CIRCUMSTANCES MAY PRESENT THEMSELVES WITH EACH CASE THAT COMES BEFORE THE CITY, BUT RECOGNIZING THAT STANDARDS ARE ALSO NECESSARY AND WE HAVE TO HAVE THOSE AS WELL.
SO I'M NOT GOING TO TELL YOU HOW TO DO THAT.
I'M JUST SAYING I THINK THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT YOU SHOULD ADDRESS.
I WILL TEASE A LITTLE BIT OF THAT.
WE ARE HAVING A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE BOUNDARIES BETWEEN STAFF FLEXIBILITY, P AND Z FLEXIBILITY AND ORDINANCE FLEXIBILITY, AND THOSE ARE ONGOING DISCUSSIONS I GUESS IS PROBABLY THE BEST WAY TO PUT THAT, THAT I FEEL CERTAIN ARE NOWHERE NEAR BEING RESOLVED YET.
SO BUT THEY ARE ON THE TABLE TO HOPEFULLY BE ADDRESSED AND FIND THAT BALANCE.
SO THAT IS SOMETHING WE ARE WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS.
I JUST WANTED TO ECHO SOME OF THE SIMILAR COMMENTS.
GREAT JOB BY FREESE AND NICHOLS AND, AND THE CITY STAFF AND READING THROUGH THIS WHOLE DOCUMENT IT KIND OF LEADS ME TO SOME OF THE SAME COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE HERE THIS EVENING AND IT'S ABOUT THOUGHTFUL REDEVELOPMENT, RIGHT, BECAUSE THE ENVIRONMENT WE'RE IN, WHEN WE DO THE REDEVELOPMENT, IT'S THOUGHTFUL REDEVELOPMENT.
SO I THINK THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE LAID OUT AND THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU'VE RAISED ARE THE RIGHT ONES.
THANK YOU. MR. ALALI. I ALSO WANTED TO THIS EFFORT IS MUCH APPRECIATED, AND I THINK IT'S.
I'M SORRY IF YOU CAN LEAN INTO YOUR MICROPHONE JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE.
YEAH. YOUR EFFORT IS MUCH APPRECIATED, AND I GUESS, YOU KNOW, LIKE, WE NEEDED THIS CHANGE BECAUSE YOU'RE LIKE, WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF REZONING AND PD CASES HERE.
SO I THINK LIKE, THAT'S INDICATES THAT THE CURRENT ZONING NEEDS TO BE REVISITED AND SOMEHOW.
SO YEAH, APPRECIATE THE EFFORT, AND I THINK IT'S ABOUT TIME TO DO THAT.
THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THERE AREN'T ANY. I'M GOING TO PRIVILEGE OF THE CHAIR.
I'M GOING TO MAKE THE MOTION AND MOVE THAT.
WE ACCEPT THE DIAGNOSTIC REPORT AS PRESENTED AND CHARGE THE REWRITE COMMITTEE WITH MOVING FORWARD WITH NEXT STEPS. COMMISSIONER BRONSKY, AS THE VICE CHAIR OF BOTH, I WILL SECOND YOUR MOTION.
ALL RIGHT. COMMENTS? QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION.
THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR EVERYTHING WE'RE ALREADY DOING AND THE WORK WE'VE GOT AHEAD OF US.
THANK YOU. WE WILL SURELY SEE YOU ALL AGAIN.
YES, SIR. COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE AN ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA.
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY MODIFY THESE TIMES AS DEEMED NECESSARY, AND CHAIR, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.SO AND IN THE REMODEL OF THIS CHAMBER AND, AND I KNOW YOU'RE HERE TO TROUBLESHOOT, BUT WE DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE EFFORT THAT ALL OF Y'ALL PUT IN, IN GETTING US HERE, AND THE TIME WE SPENT OVER AT THE LIBRARY MADE US DESPERATE TO GET BACK, AND WE KNOW YOU ALL ARE WORKING HARD TO GET US HERE, AND I JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE ALL BEING HERE WHILE YOU'RE HERE SO WE COULD DO THAT PUBLICLY.
SO THANK YOU ALL FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE TO GET US HERE.
WITH THAT COMMISSION, ANY OTHER BUSINESS BEFORE THE COMMISSION TONIGHT? ALRIGHT, WE WILL STAND ADJOURNED AT 6:55.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.