Aug 12, 2024 City Council

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I NOW DECLARE THAT THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL IS RECONVENED IN OPEN SESSION.

[CALL TO ORDER]

DO WE HAVE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM ON? DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM HOLMER WILL BE ON ZOOM.

WE'LL BEGIN TONIGHT'S REGULAR MEETING WITH THE INVOCATION LED BY REVEREND MICHAEL FORGE, PASTOR WITH PRINCE OF PEACE CATHOLIC CHURCH.

PLEASE JOIN THE COUNCIL RECITING THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND TEXAS PLEDGE AFTER THE PRAYER.

WOULD YOU PLEASE STAND? DEAR LORD, WE GATHER TOGETHER THIS EVENING WITH HEARTS FULL OF GRATITUDE FOR YOUR ABUNDANT GRACES AND BLESSINGS THAT YOU BESTOW UPON US.

THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU HAVE DONE AND CONTINUE TO DO FOR OUR BELOVED CITY AND CITIZENS.

POUR YOUR SPIRIT OF WISDOM AND KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING UPON OUR CITY LEADERS AND SERVANTS, AND GUIDE THEM AS THEY GUIDE US TOWARD THE FUTURE OF OUR BELOVED CITY OF PLANO.

MAY THE LORD BLESS US IN ALL WE DO.

AMEN. THANK YOU.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

THE CONSENT AGENDA.

THE CONSENT AGENDA WILL BE ACTED UPON IN ONE MOTION AND CONTAINS ITEMS WHICH ARE ROUTINE AND TYPICALLY NONCONTROVERSIAL.

ITEMS MAY BE REMOVED FROM THIS AGENDA FOR INDIVIDUAL DISCUSSION BY A COUNCIL MEMBER, THE CITY MANAGER, OR ANY CITIZEN.

THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL ESTABLISH TIME LIMITS BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKER REQUESTS.

MR. MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM I.

SECOND. THANK YOU.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM I.

ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR HAND.

MOTION PASSES 8 TO 0.

[(i)  

To approve an expenditure for engineering professional services for the Neighborhood Traffic Calming Program, Project No. TP-S-00017, in the amount of $188,245 from Fehr & Peers for the Engineering Department; and authorizing the City Manager to execute all necessary documents.

YEAH, I'M CALEB THORNHILL, DIRECTOR OF ENGINEER, HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU CALEB.

I WAS JUST HOPING THAT YOU COULD SHARE WITH US A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE PURPOSE OF THIS AND WHAT LED TO THE NEED FROM THE CITIZENS FOR THIS, AND WHAT WE HOPE TO GAIN FROM DOING THIS STUDY.

SURE. SO THIS IS A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH THE CONSULTANT.

THIS IS TO DEVELOP, EXCUSE ME, THE ABILITY TO PRIORITIZE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC CALMING REQUESTS.

WE RECEIVE ABOUT 2 TO 3 PER MONTH.

BACK IN 2009, WE SUNSETTED THE SPEED HUMP PROGRAM.

AND THEN IN 2021 WE APPROVED FUNDS TO RECREATE THAT PROGRAM.

IT WAS INCLUDED IN THE 2023 STREET DESIGN MANUAL, THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC CALMING PROGRAM.

AND SO THIS IS THE INITIAL STEP SO THAT WHEN WE DO RECEIVE REQUESTS, WE CAN PRIORITIZE AND ADDRESS THE MOST CRITICAL.

SO DO WE IMAGINE THAT COMING OUT OF THIS, THERE WILL BE A NEED FOR ADDITIONAL RESOURCES TO IMPLEMENT THIS OR CHANGES TO OUR CURRENT ORDINANCES.

SO NO CHANGES TO ORDINANCE THAT I'M AWARE OF.

THE RESOURCES WE ANTICIPATE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN, I THINK $100-200 A YEAR, $200,000 A YEAR FOR IMPROVEMENTS.

IT'S NOT JUST A SPEED HUMP PROGRAM.

THERE'S OTHER ELEMENTS IN THE MANUAL, BUT IT'S ALSO NOT ADDRESSING EVERY SINGLE REQUEST.

THAT'S WHY THIS CONTRACT IS IN FRONT OF YOU IS TO PRIORITIZE THOSE REQUESTS, THE ONES THAT WE FEEL LIKE THERE IS AN IMPORTANT SAFETY CONCERN WE'LL ADDRESS THOSE. THE ONES THAT ARE NOT WILL NOT BE INCLUDED.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

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THANKS, CALEB. WILL THIS THIS CONTRACT RIGHT HERE IS IT GOING TO HELP US DEVELOP A PLAN FOR US TO PRIORITIZE FUTURE ELEMENTS HERE, OR IS THIS JUST A ONE TIME PRIORITIZATION OF WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY RECEIVED? SO THE PLAN IS FOR THIS ANALYSIS TO GUIDE US MOVING FORWARD.

SO ONCE WE HAVE THIS PRIORITIZATION IMPROVEMENT IN PLACE, WE WILL USE THIS AS WE GO THROUGHOUT THE YEARS AND PRIORITIZING PROJECTS.

SO THIS ISN'T JUST A ONE TIME FOR THIS YEAR.

IT WON'T BE BACK FOR YOU FOR NEXT YEAR IT'LL BE THIS IS THE PLAN WE'RE SETTING IN PLACE.

SPEED MEASURING DEVICES, YOU KNOW, OUT TO, TO SLOW TRAFFIC DOWN AND ALSO GIVE US, YOU KNOW, DATA ON THAT.

DO WE KNOW WHAT THAT CAUSES WHEN WE DO THAT IN RESPONSE TO CITIZEN REQUEST VERSUS, YOU KNOW, DOING A NEW CONSULTING STUDY? YEAH. SO I DON'T HAVE THAT COST WHAT IT WOULD COST TO PUT OUT A TRAILER? BUT WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS WHEN THAT DOES HAPPEN, WHETHER IT'S A TRAILER OR EVEN A PD PRESENCE, WE HAVE IMMEDIATE RESPONSE.

YOU KNOW, THE SPEED SLOWS DOWN QUITE A BIT, BUT IT'S THE RESOURCES OF PUTTING THOSE OUT THERE.

IT'S USUALLY A TEMPORARY RESPONSE.

AND SO THIS IS A LONGER TERM SOLUTION.

GOTCHA. I DON'T KNOW, MARK MAYBE, DO YOU HAVE ANY DATA ON I KNOW WE GOT THE RESOURCE TAKES MANPOWER TO HOOK IT UP AND TAKE IT OUT AND WHEEL IT OUT AND THEN SURE, GO BACK AND COLLECT AGAIN. I'M JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, ALMOST $200,000, HOW MANY TIMES DO WE JUST RESPOND WITH, YOU KNOW, THE RADAR MACHINES? I'D HAVE TO GET A REPORT FROM CHIEF.

HONESTLY, OUR TRAFFIC, TYPICALLY WE HAVE THE POP PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE WITHIN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT TO GO LOOK AT ELEMENTS LIKE THAT.

BUT I'D HAVE TO GET A REPORT FROM THE CHIEF IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO REPORT BACK, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO DO IT.

IF WE DELAYED THIS TABLE THIS TONIGHT, WOULD THAT GIVE YOU A CHANCE? WOULD THAT DELAY ANYTHING? I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WOULD DELAY IT NECESSARILY, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THE TWO WORK IN CONJUNCTION WITH EACH OTHER THAT WAY.

OFTENTIMES WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TRAFFIC TRAILERS.

THANK YOU MAYOR. TRAFFIC TRAILERS.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT STRICTLY SPEED ON A LOT OF THOSE ELEMENTS.

AND I THINK THAT THERE'S OTHER TRAFFIC ENGINEERING.

YEAH, THERE'S CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC, EXCESSIVE TRAFFIC WHERE THEY'VE JUST FOUND THIS IS THE NEW ROUTE.

THE TRAILERS DON'T REALLY CAPTURE THAT.

THEY REALLY JUST CAPTURE THE SPEED.

SO THIS THIS PROGRAM WILL GO BEYOND JUST SPEEDING.

SPEEDING IS A HUGE COMPLAINT.

IT'S PROBABLY THE NUMBER ONE ON THE LIST, BUT IT'S NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT WE RECEIVE.

RIGHT. BUT I GUESS WOULD WE POTENTIALLY BE CONSIDERING DOING MORE DOING ISLANDS IN CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS? SO THERE. YEAH, IT DEPENDS ON THE SITUATION.

WE MAY LOOK AT IT AND SAY THIS, THE TRAFFIC VOLUME IS NOT WARRANT ANY IMPROVEMENTS, BUT WE MAY LOOK AT IT AND SAY THIS TRAFFIC VOLUME IS EXCEEDING WHAT THIS ROAD IS DESIGNED FOR.

SO THAT THAT'S WHY THIS IS PUT INTO PLACE, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO JUST SUBJECTIVELY MAKE A DECISION AND PUT IN AN ISLAND OR A CHICANE OR A CIRCLE OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE, WITHOUT HAVING THE DATA TO SUPPORT THAT.

OKAY. GREAT. THANKS.

APPRECIATE IT.

[INAUDIBLE] SO OKAY NOW THAT NOW THAT EVERYBODY'S RAISED QUESTIONS I HAVE QUESTIONS.

SO IS THIS SOMETHING THAT IS RECOMMENDED BY OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT? I DON'T KNOW IF I KNOW THAT ANSWER.

IT IS NOT RECOMMENDED AS FAR AS THE STUDY ITSELF.

YES. I MEAN, WE'RE WE'RE PROPOSING TO SPEND SOME MONEY TO, TO SEEK PRIORITY OR TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED ANY TRAFFIC CONTROL OR TRAFFIC CALMING, RIGHT, IN CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS OR CERTAIN STREETS.

RIGHT. I MEAN, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT IT MEANS.

SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WAS PROPOSED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, OR WAS IT SOMETHING THAT WAS PROPOSED BY.

IT WAS PROPOSED BY THE TRANSPORTATION STAFF FOR ENGINEERING.

OKAY. AND IS THIS SOMETHING THAT'S JUST A A SEGMENT OF WHAT'S TO COME? I MEAN, ARE WE LOOKING AT THIS AS THE INITIAL PHASE? IS THERE GOING TO BE A SECOND PHASE, A THIRD PHASE, A FINAL PHASE.

WHAT WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT WITH REGARD TO THE ENTIRE EXPENDITURE WHEN IT COMES TO AND ALSO WHAT PART ARE WE LOOKING AT? SO I WOULD SAY YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE INITIAL PHASE.

WELL WE'LL CALL IT PHASE TWO.

PHASE ONE WAS TO ADD IT TO THE STREET DESIGN STANDARDS.

THAT'S OUR DOCUMENT THAT OVERSEES ALL OF OUR STREET DESIGN STANDARDS, IN THAT WE HAVE A SECTION 13 OR CHAPTER 13 THAT INCLUDES THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC CALMING.

IT HAS THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER THE CITY OF PLANO WOULD CONSIDER.

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THIS IS THE NEXT PHASE THAT DEVELOPED A CRITERIA TO SORT THROUGH THOSE REQUESTS.

AND SO THE PHASE AFTER THAT WOULD BE NOW THAT WE WE'VE RECEIVED I THINK IT WAS 21 REQUESTS THIS YEAR FOR DIFFERENT ELEMENTS.

AND RIGHT NOW STAFF'S LOOKED AT PIECES OF THEM.

BUT THIS WOULD PUT IN A FORMAL PROCESS TAKES OUT ALL SUBJECTIVE SUBJECTIVITY OUT, IT WOULD BE HERE IS HOW WE ARE RANKING YOU AND HERE'S WHAT WE FEEL LIKE IS THE CRITICAL COMPONENT. HERE IS THE SAFETY COMPONENT.

AND HERE'S HOW WE RANK IT.

SO IS THIS FOR THE ENTIRE CITY OF PLANO.

SO LET'S SAY SOME NEIGHBORHOOD TEN PEOPLE CALL IN AND SAYS THIS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE GOING WAY TOO FAST HERE.

SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU THEN YOU WOULD PUT THAT IN AND SAY, OKAY, WELL THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT.

BUT IS IT FOR THE EAST SIDE OF THE ENTIRE CITY? I MEAN, WHAT WHAT WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH.

SO THIS WOULD BE FOR THE ENTIRE CITY.

THIS WOULD BE THE SYSTEM THAT WE USE TO EVALUATE NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC CALMING REQUESTS.

LIKE I SAID, IT COULD BE SPEEDING, IT COULD BE CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC AND IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, EXCESSIVE VEHICLES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT REQUESTS THAT COME THROUGH.

AND RIGHT NOW, THE ONLY ABILITY FOR US TO ADDRESS IT IS TO PUT OUT A SPEED TRAILER OR TO REQUEST PD TO SEND A CAR OUT TO THE AREA TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING, OR AT LEAST TO GET VEHICLES TO SLOW DOWN, DEPENDING ON WHAT'S GOING ON.

SO THE NEXT PHASE WOULD BE ONCE WE IDENTIFY AND WE FIGURE OUT THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DO.

THEN THE NEXT PHASE WOULD BE TO COME BACK AND SAY, WELL, THESE ARE SOME OF THE PROPOSALS THAT WE NEED TO WE NEED TO IMPLEMENT.

IS THAT WHAT. YEAH.

SO THE NEXT PHASE WOULD PROBABLY BE A DESIGN CONTRACT.

AND HERE ARE THE EIGHT DIFFERENT LOCATIONS THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED ARE CRITICAL.

HERE IS THE SOLUTION TO THOSE.

AND HERE IS THE DESIGN FOR THOSE.

AND THEN PUT THAT OUT TO CONSTRUCTION DEPENDING ON WHAT IT WAS.

IF IT WAS SPEED HUMPS WE WOULDN'T NEED TO DO THAT.

WE WOULD IDENTIFY WHERE THEY NEED TO GO AND GO AND PUT THEM IN.

BUT JUST LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, IT'S NOT JUST SPEED HUMPS, IT DEPENDS ON THE LOCATION.

THANK YOU. SO I'M JUST GOING TO SAY I'M NOT GOING TO BE SUPPORTING THIS TONIGHT.

AND THIS IS WHY I KNOW IT'S IT'S ALMOST $200,000.

IT'S A STUDY THAT COULD LEAD TO ADDITIONAL COSTS THAT WE NEED.

AND WE'RE IN A TIGHT BUDGET RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT.

$200,000 HERE, $200,000 THERE, ADDS UP TO MORE MONEY THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY USE TO PROVIDE OUR EMPLOYEES WITH MORE DOLLARS.

OUR FIREFIGHTERS, OUR POLICE THAT WE NEED TO GET UP TO THE MEDIAN RATE.

SO TO ME, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IT'S PROBABLY A GREAT THING TO DO, BUT THIS MAY JUST NOT BE THE RIGHT TIME TO DO IT.

SO I'M NOT GOING TO BE I'LL VOTE TO DENY THIS.

AND I'M SORRY, I MIGHT JUST ANOTHER PIECE OF ADVICE FOR WHATEVER IT'S WORTH THERE.

ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS I THINK WE DO, WE DO HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE PORTABLE SPEED MACHINES THAT WE CAN PUT OUT.

BUT I THINK ANOTHER GREAT USE THAT HAS MAINLY JUST VOLUNTEER CALLS WOULD BE TO ASK OUR PD TO TASK SOME OF OUR CAP UNITS, TO BE OUT THERE IN AREAS WHERE WE GET MULTIPLE CALLS RUNNING RADAR GUNS, BECAUSE THE CITIZENS [INAUDIBLE] VEHICLE THERE, AND WE DO THAT ALREADY. YEAH, THAT'S THAT SLOWS IT DOWN.

YEAH. AND I KNOW WE'VE TASKED THAT GROUP FOR OTHER SPECIFIC ACTIONS AT TIMES AND THEY'VE BEEN A GREAT HELP.

SO, YEAH, I'M WITH, YOU KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER PRINCE IS NOT SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T NEED TO MAYBE LOOK AT SOMETHING, BUT I'M JUST NOT SURE WE WANT TO SPEND $200,000 AT THIS TIME FOR ANOTHER STUDY LIKE THIS, WHEN WE HAVE OTHER OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO US.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

SECOND. OKAY, WE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND TO DENY ITEM I.

ALL IN FAVOR TO DENY THE MOTION, RAISE YOUR HAND.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED? OKAY. MOTION IS DENIED.

[(1)  

Public Hearing and consideration of an Ordinance related to the Downtown Plano Public Improvement District; approving the 2024 O&M Annual Service Plan Update: levying assessments against the assessed property and establishing a lien on such property; providing for the collection of assessments; creating a charge and lien against the assessed property; providing for penalties for delinquent assessments; resolving matters incident and related thereto; providing for severability; and providing an effective date. 

REMAINING SPEAKERS ARE LIMITED TO 30 TOTAL MINUTES OF TESTIMONY TIME, WITH THREE MINUTES ASSIGNED PER SPEAKER.

THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY AMEND THESE TIMES AS DEEMED NECESSARY.

NON PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL PERMIT PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA NOT POSTED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.

PRESIDING OFFICER WILL ESTABLISH TIME LIMITS BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKER REQUESTS, LENGTH OF THE AGENDA AND TO ENSURE MEETING EFFICIENCY, AND MAY INCLUDE A CUMULATIVE

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ITEM NUMBER ONE PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE RELATED TO THE DOWNTOWN PLANO PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT APPROVING THE 2024 O&M ANNUAL SERVICE PLAN UPDATE, LEVYING ASSESSMENTS AGAINST THE ASSESSED PROPERTY, AND ESTABLISHING A LIEN ON SUCH PROPERTY.

PROVIDING FOR THE COLLECTION OF ASSESSMENTS, CREATING A CHARGE AND LIEN AGAINST THE ASSESSED PROPERTY, PROVIDING FOR PENALTIES FOR DELINQUENT ASSESSMENTS, RESOLVING MATTERS INCIDENT AND RELATED THERETO, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

TONIGHT WE WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER APPROVING THE DOWNTOWN PLANO PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT 2024 SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN.

AS LAID OUT IN THE PLAN, WE DO THIS EVERY YEAR, IT'S AN ANNUAL UPDATE.

THIS YEAR WILL BE THE FIRST YEAR THAT THE COUNTY IS GOING TO START COLLECTING THE LEVIES FOR US, AND THERE HAS BEEN NO CHANGES TO THE PLAN SINCE LAST YEAR.

I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF FOR MICHELLE? ALL RIGHT. I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND NO SPEAKERS.

I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND CONFINE THE COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL.

MR. MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE.

I'LL SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER ONE.

ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR HAND. MOTION PASSES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

[(2)  Public Hearing on the FY 2024-25 Recommended Budget and the FY 2024-25 Proposed Community Investment Program (CIP). ]

PUBLIC HEARING ON THE FISCAL YEAR 2024-25 RECOMMENDED BUDGET AND THE FISCAL YEAR 24-25 PROPOSED COMMUNITY INVESTMENT PROGRAM. GOOD EVENING, KAREN RHONDES-WHITLEY.

I'M THE BUDGET DIRECTOR HERE AT THE CITY OF PLANO.

TONIGHT, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS REGARDING THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET, WHICH IS CURRENTLY SITTING AT $755 MILLION.

AND OUR CIP, OR COMMUNITY INVESTMENT PROGRAM IS $317.3 MILLION.

AND IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING.

ALL RIGHT. I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.

CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING NO ACTION ON THAT ONE.

SO. OKAY. ITEM NUMBER THREE CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT THE CERTIFIED APPRAISAL ROLLS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024-25 FOR COLLIN COUNTY AND

[(3)  Consideration of a Resolution to accept the Certified Appraisal Rolls for Fiscal Year 2024-25 for Collin County and Denton County; and providing an effective date. ]

GOOD EVENING ON THIS ITEM THIS IS THE APPROVAL OF THE CERTIFIED APPRAISAL ROLLS THAT HAVE COME TO US FROM THE COLLIN CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT AND THE DENTON CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT.

I HAVE INCLUDED ALL THEIR INFORMATION FOR YOU.

THE TOTAL CERTIFIED APPRAISAL ROLL CAME IN AT $62.2 MILLION.

I MEAN BILLION DOLLARS $906 WAS FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION AND $3.9 BILLION WAS EXISTING PROPERTY VALUES GOING UP.

AND I HAVE A WHOLE SLIDE PRESENTATION REGARDING THOSE NUMBERS THAT WE WILL VIEW HERE IN A MINUTE.

THE TOTAL INCREASE TO YOUR ROLE WAS 8.35%.

ALL THIS DOES RIGHT HERE IS JUST A VOTE ACCEPTING WHAT THEY HAVE SUBMITTED TO YOU.

SO WE NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT THE CERTIFIED APPRAISAL.

YEAH. MOTION TO ACCEPT THE CERTIFIED APPRAISAL.

SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER THREE.

ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR HAND.

MOTION PASSES. ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

[(4)  Discussion and Direction regarding Proposed Ad Valorem Tax Rate.]

OKAY. I HAVE A PRESENTATION REGARDING THE ANALYSIS OF WHAT YOU JUST APPROVED REGARDING THE CERTIFIED TAX ROLL.

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AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOUR CERTIFIED VALUE IS $62.2 BILLION.

THIS IS UP 8.35%.

WE DID HAVE A VERY SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE IN OUR CHAPTER 42.

THEY JUMPED FROM $3.5 BILLION LAST YEAR TO $7.5.

I DID DISCUSS THIS WITH THE CHIEF APPRAISER TODAY.

THIS IS GOING ON COUNTY WIDE.

REGARDING THE LAWSUITS THAT ARE HAPPENING, WHAT HAPPENS IS THEY GO THROUGH, THEY PROTEST, THEY GO THROUGH THE ARB HEARINGS.

WELL, NOW THE LEGISLATURE HAS CHANGED SOME OF THE RULINGS, ESPECIALLY MOST OF THESE ARE COMMERCIAL VALUES, BY THE WAY.

THEY GO TO A TAX AGENT, A TAX CONSULTANT, INSTEAD OF EVEN GOING TO THE ARB, THEY ARE FILING COURT ORDERS REQUESTING THAT THE COURT LOOK AT THEIR VALUES.

AND THAT IS WHY WE ARE SEEING SUCH A LARGE JUMP.

I WILL TELL YOU ON THE TRUTH AND TAXATION, THE TAX ROLL STUFF THAT I HAD TO DO THE OTHER DAY.

THE STATE HAS CHANGED, WE ARE NOT WRITING OFF THAT 7.4 ANYMORE.

WERE RIDING ON THE OFF THE DISPUTED VALUE WHICH ENDED UP $600 MILLION, SO WE LOST ABOUT $0.30 ON OUR TAX RATE JUST FROM THAT.

SO IT'S NOT AS BAD AS WHAT IT USED TO BE.

THEY HAVE CHANGED THIS A LOT SINCE SENATE BILL TWO WAS ADOPTED.

YOU HAVE GOING INTO THE TIF THIS YEAR, $1.3 BILLION IS GOING IN THERE OR $5.6 MILLION.

THIS IS UP ABOUT $1.3 MILLION FROM LAST YEAR.

YOUR TOTAL AVAILABLE TO BE SPENT AMONGST THE GENERAL FUND AND THE DEBT SERVICE FUND IS $240 MILLION.

AND THIS IS AT THE NEWLY PROPOSED.

YOU REMEMBER WHEN WE FIRST THE CITY MANAGER FIRST DID THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET? THE TAX RATE WAS 41.76 BECAUSE WE HAD NOT RECEIVED THE CERTIFIED VALUES.

SINCE THEN, WE HAVE RECEIVED THE CERTIFIED VALUES.

I'M GOING TO DISCUSS THE DIFFERENT RATES HERE IN A MINUTE, BUT THIS NUMBER IS BASED ON A TAX RATE OF 41.25 CENTS.

ANOTHER SLIDE I WANTED TO SHOW YOU THE MARKET VALUE.

NOW THIS DOES NOT HAVE ANY HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS OUT OF IT.

JUMP FROM 564 TO 579.

THAT'S ABOUT 2.7% INCREASE.

YOU HAVE TOTAL EXEMPTIONS NOW OF $15 BILLION THAT ARE COMING OFF THE ROLL.

REVENUE SAVINGS FROM THE EXEMPTION TOTALED $63 MILLION.

AND OUR 65 AND OVER TAX FREEZE DID INCREASE $3 MILLION.

SO NOW SAVINGS FROM THAT REVENUE SAVINGS FROM THAT TOTAL $10.7 MILLION.

AS FAR AS YOUR NEW GROWTH, RESIDENTIAL ONLY ACCOUNTED FOR 7% OF THE NEW GROWTH.

WE KNOW WE'RE BASICALLY REACHING BUILD OUT ON RESIDENTIAL.

LAST YEAR WAS 9%.

COMMERCIAL ACCOUNTS FOR THE NEW GROWTH WAS 93%.

LAST YEAR WAS 91.

THE EXISTING PROPERTY VALUES WENT UP $3.9 BILLION.

RESIDENTIAL ONLY ACCOUNTED FOR 34% OF THAT NEW NEW EXISTING VALUE INCREASE LAST YEAR THAT WAS 63%. COMMERCIAL ACCOUNTS ACCOUNTED FOR 66% LAST YEAR IT WAS 37%.

WE STILL ARE RUNNING 50% FOR RESIDENTIAL, 50% FOR COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS A VERY NICE SPOT TO BE IN.

AS FAR AS WHERE THE REVENUE IS COMING IN FROM, 240 IS COMING IN FOR THE GENERAL FUND AND GEODETIC FUND.

OUT OF THAT, $120.8 MILLION, OR 50%, IS COMING IN FROM SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS.

COMMERCIAL IS 92.1 OR 38%.

MULTIFAMILY IS $27.5 MILLION OR 11.4%.

AND YOU WILL SEE HERE I HAVE WHAT ALL THESE NUMBERS WERE LAST YEAR, 23-24.

NOW WE'LL GO ON TO THE TAX RATE.

AS YOU KNOW, WE FOLLOW TEXAS PROPERTY TAX LAWS, TRUTH IN TAXATION IS WHAT IT'S CALLED FOR GUIDING PRINCIPLES PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW

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A TAXING UNIT MUST PUBLISH ITS NO NEW TAX RATE IN ITS VOTER APPROVAL RATE BEFORE ADOPTING THE ACTUAL TAX RATE. AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY.

WE NEED TO GET A PROPOSED TAX RATE TO PUT ON THE FORM THAT WILL BE GOING INTO THE PAPER THIS WEEK.

A TAXING UNIT MUST PUBLISH SPECIAL NOTICES AND HOLD ONE PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE ADOPTING THE TAX RATE.

TONIGHT IS THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE BUDGET AND THE CIP.

IT USED TO BE BEFORE SENATE BILL TWO, WE HAD TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THE TAX RATE.

NOW WE ARE DOWN TO ONE.

WE DO HAVE THAT SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER 9TH.

HOWEVER, LAST YEAR YOU DID INCLUDE AN EXTRA ONE, SO WE COULD HAVE THAT ON AUGUST 26TH.

IT'S Y'ALL'S PREFERENCE.

AND THEN A TAXING UNIT IS REQUIRED TO HOLD AN ELECTION IF YOU GO OVER THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE.

OKAY, HERE ARE YOUR RATES.

THE CURRENT TAX RATE RIGHT NOW IS 41.76 CENTS.

30.26 CENTS IS GOING OVER TO THE OPERATING SIDE.

THE DEBT SIDE IS 11.5.

NOW, THE DEBT CANNOT BE CHANGED NOW ONCE ALL THIS PAPERWORK IS SUBMITTED, WE CANNOT DO ANYTHING WITH THE DEBT RATE.

YOU DO HAVE TO PAY YOUR DEBT FIRST.

YOUR NO NEW REVENUE RATE IS 39.72 CENTS.

THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE WITHOUT THE INCREMENT IS 41.25 CENTS.

AND THEN THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE WITH THE TAX INCREMENT IS 42.93 CENTS.

NOW I'M GOING TO PROVIDE YOU WITH MORE INFORMATION REGARDING EACH RATE.

THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE IS CALCULATED.

IT'S THE RATE THAT PROVIDES THE TAXING UNIT THE SAME AMOUNT OF REVENUE AS WE RECEIVED LAST YEAR.

IT'S THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN LAST YEAR'S REVENUE AND CURRENT YEAR'S APPRAISED PROPERTY VALUE.

SO IT'S AT 39.72 CENTS.

IF WE WERE TO GO DOWN TO THE 39.72 CENTS, WE WOULD HAVE TO ELIMINATE NEARLY $10 MILLION OUT OF THE OPERATING BUDGET AS IT SITS TODAY. AND I HAVE A SLIDE ALL ABOUT THAT HERE IN A MINUTE.

LET'S TALK ABOUT THE VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE.

I KNOW WE HAD A LOT OF CONFUSION LAST YEAR WHEN THE SENATE BILL TWO PASSED ON THE VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE THEY HAD INCLUDED AT THE LAST MINUTE THAT YOU COULD ADD IN THIS TAX INCREMENT.

NOBODY KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON THE FIRST COUPLE OF YEARS.

THEY SAID WE DIDN'T HAVE TO USE IT.

WELL, NOW EVERYBODY IS SAYING WE HAVE TO USE IT, AND WE STARTED USING IT LAST YEAR.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE WAY THE LAW IS WRITTEN, YOUR VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE IS THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE TIMES 1.035 CENTS, BECAUSE THAT'S THE AMOUNT THEY'RE GOING TO ALLOW YOU, PLUS YOUR CURRENT DEBT RATE PLUS ANY UNUSED INCREMENT.

NOW LET ME SHOW YOU WHAT ALL THIS MEANS.

THE VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE WITHOUT THE TAX INCREMENT CAME IN AT 41.25 CENTS.

SO THIS IS WITHOUT THE TAX INCREMENT.

SENATE BILL TWO CHANGED ALL THIS.

AND THEY TOLD CITIES WELL YOU CAN GO UP THE 3.5%.

IN ADDITION, STATE LAW ALLOWS FOR YOU TO PROVIDE AN INCREMENT THAT CAN BE APPLIED FOR THREE YEARS.

THE COUNCIL MUST PUBLISH.

WE THE CITY HAS TO PUBLISH WHAT THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE IS WITH THE TAX INCREMENT IN IT.

SO WHEN I WENT OUT AND DID ALL THE CALCULATIONS THE OTHER DAY, IT COMES UP LIKE THAT.

SO WE CANNOT GO IN AND PUBLISH THAT 41.25 CENTS.

THAT MAY BE WHAT YOU WANT TO PUT OUT THERE AS THE ACTUAL PROPOSED RATE, BUT THE 42.93 CENTS IS WHAT IS GOING TO BE PUBLISHED AS YOUR VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE.

THIS IS A FORM I KNOW YOU CANNOT READ IT, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY LAST YEAR, WE CAME BEFORE Y'ALL AND WE HAD 2.94 CENTS THAT COULD BE UTILIZED TO GO OVER YOUR VOTER APPROVAL RATE.

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SO THAT YEARS GONE.

SO THAT IS YEAR 2023.

WE STILL HAVE SOME CENTS LEFT OVER FROM 2022 AND 2021.

LONG STORY SHORT, YOU GOT 1.68 CENTS THAT CAN BE UTILIZED IF YOU DECIDE TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE TAX RATE.

SO THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT THAT CHART IS SAYING UP THERE.

NOW LET'S GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE REAL QUICK.

I MENTIONED BEFORE YOUR NO NEW REVENUE RATE IS 39.72 CENTS.

IF WE DECIDED TO ADOPT THE 39.72 CENTS, WE NEED TO GO LOOK FOR $9.8 MILLION TO REDUCE THE OPERATING BUDGET.

THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE WITHOUT THE TAX INCREMENT IS 41.25 CENTS.

NOW, TO GET THERE, THE CITY MANAGER'S RECOMMENDED BUDGET HAD 41.76 CENTS.

IN ORDER TO COME UP TO THE 41.25 CENTS, WE ELIMINATED THE $2.8 MILLION, WHICH WAS RECOMMENDED TO GO INTO THE RAINY DAY FUND.

IF YOU DO THAT, WE CAN GET DOWN TO THE 41.25 CENTS.

NOW, THE VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE WITH THE TAX INCREMENT IS 42.93 CENTS IF FOR SOME REASON Y'ALL DECIDED TO GO THERE, IT WOULD PROVIDE YOU AN EXTRA $10 MILLION IN THE GENERAL FUND.

SO TONIGHT WE HAVE A CITY MANAGER RECOMMENDED RATE OF 41.76 CENTS.

SINCE WE DID ALL THE TRUTH IN TAXATION, WE HAVE REVISED THAT DOWN TO 41.25 CENTS.

WHERE'S MY FORM? UH OH.

NEVER MIND. WE'LL GET TO THAT HERE IN A MINUTE.

SO SORRY. OKAY.

SO ANYWAY, THOSE ARE YOUR RATES.

LET ME SHOW YOU WHAT IT DOES TO THE AVERAGE HOME.

YOUR AVERAGE HOME LAST YEAR WAS $373,048.

NOW THIS IS THE TAXABLE.

THIS IS NOT MARKET VALUE.

THIS ALREADY HAS ALL THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS ALL THE EXEMPTIONS OUT OF IT.

YOUR NEW AVERAGE TAXABLE VALUE IS $417,641.

IF THE 41.76 CENTS IS MAINTAINED, THE AVERAGE TAXABLE VALUE WOULD INCREASE $160, I MEAN $186 FOR THE YEAR.

NOW, IF YOU GO DOWN TO THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE 41.76 CENTS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO 39.72 CENTS, THE AVERAGE HOMEOWNER IS STILL GOING TO HAVE A TAX INCREASE BECAUSE THEIR HOME VALUE WENT UP. SO THIS IS $101 FOR THE YEAR.

BY GOING TO THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE, WITHOUT THE TAX INCREMENT TO THE 41.25 CENTS, YOU WOULD LOWER THE TAX RATE DOWN BY 0.51 CENTS.

AND THE TAX BILL FOR THE AVERAGE HOMEOWNER WOULD GO UP $165.

IF FOR SOME REASON IT WAS THOUGHT TO GO TO THE ACTUAL VOTER APPROVAL RATE, WITH THE TAX INCREMENT, THE AVERAGE HOMEOWNER WOULD SEE AN INCREASE OF $235.

TONIGHT, THERE MUST BE A RECORD VOTE ON WHAT THE PROPOSED TAX RATE IS GOING TO BE TO SCHEDULE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WE HAVE TO DO THIS TONIGHT BECAUSE IF YOU ARE PROPOSING ANY KIND OF RATE OVER THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE OF THE 39.72 CENTS. THE NOTICE I'M ABOUT TO SHOW YOU HAS BEEN FILLED OUT AT THE 41.25 CENTS.

IT WILL BE PUBLISHED AUGUST 15TH IN THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS.

AND WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS THAT RATE HERE IN A MINUTE.

WE NEED TO DETERMINE REGARDING THE PROPERTY TAX PUBLIC HEARING, RIGHT NOW I HAVE IT SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER 9TH, AND THE CITY COUNCIL IS SCHEDULED TO VOTE ON THE BUDGET, THE CIP AND THE TAX RATE ON MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 9TH.

THIS IS A FORM I KNOW IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO SEE, BUT BASICALLY AT THE END OF THE DAY, I NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL WANTS

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THE SECOND LINE IS THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE OF 39.72 CENTS, AND THEN THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE IS THE 42.93 CENTS.

SO THE REASON WHY WE ARE HERE THIS EVENING IS TO PUT IN THAT PROPOSED TAX RATE.

NOW, ON THAT, YOU CANNOT GO UP FOR WHATEVER TAX RATE THAT WE PUBLISH IN THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS.

YOU CAN GO DOWN, BUT YOU CANNOT GO UP.

AND THIS IS JUST THE BACK OF THE FORM.

I KNOW IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO READ.

WE HAVE TO PUT IN WHAT OUR AVERAGE HOMESTEAD TAXABLE VALUE IS THE TAXES ON THE AVERAGE HOMESTEAD AND THEN THE TAX LEVY THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET FROM THE PROPERTIES. SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE THIS EVENING.

ALL RIGHT, ANTHONY, THANK YOU MAYOR.

SO I'M PASSING AROUND SOME SLIDES.

I THINK THERE THERE ARE A NUMBER OF NUMBERS IN HERE AND TRENDS THAT I THINK WILL BE BENEFICIAL FOR US TO ALL BE AWARE OF.

BUT MY PROMISE TO THE COUNCIL IS SEVEN MINUTES OR LESS OR IT'S FREE.

AND I PROMISED MARK.

THERE YOU GO. PLEASE DO START.

START YOUR TIME. I PROMISED MARK THAT I WOULD GIVE THIS CAVEAT.

THE NUMBERS IN HERE ARE DRAWN FROM WHAT THE STAFF PROVIDED, BUT THE CHARACTERIZATIONS ARE MY OWN.

SO IF Y'ALL WOULD TURN THE PAGE.

FIRST, THIS IS PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT SLIDE.

BUDGET TRENDS. HERE'S A SUMMARY AT 41.76 CENTS LAST YEAR'S TAX RATE.

THE AVERAGE HOMEOWNER PROPERTY TAX BILL WOULD BE UP A FULL 12% FROM $1,558 TO $1,744.

AND THAT'S EVEN THOUGH THE GENERAL FUND WOULD ONLY BE UP 0.4%.

AND THE COMBINED BUDGET NET NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT WOULD ONLY BE UP 2.3%.

SO HOW CAN THAT BE? YOU KNOW. I MEAN, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT, AT, YOU KNOW, THE AVERAGE HOMEOWNER AND AGAIN, I PUT THAT IN QUOTATION MARKS BECAUSE THIS IS THE AVERAGE HOMEOWNER WHO ONLY HAS THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, WHO DOESN'T HAVE THE SENIOR TAX FREEZE OR ANY OTHER EXEMPTIONS, BUT THEIR TAX BILL WOULD GO UP 12%, EVEN THOUGH THE GENERAL FUND WOULD ONLY BE UP 0.4% AND COMBINED BUDGET, NET OF NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT WOULD BE UP 2.3%.

EVEN AT 41.25 CENTS THE AVERAGE HOMEOWNER PROPERTY TAX BILL WOULD BE UP 10.6% FROM $1,558 TO $1,723, AND THE PERCENTAGES FOR THE GENERAL FUND AND THE COMBINED BUDGET NET, THE WATER DISTRICT WOULD BE THE SAME 0.4 AND 2.3.

EITHER WAY, IT WILL BE THE BIGGEST INCREASE IN THE AVERAGE HOMEOWNER'S PROPERTY TAX BILL IN THE IN THE PAST 20 YEARS IN PLANO PURSUANT TO THE SPREADSHEETS THAT THE STAFF SENT OUT BY EMAIL THIS PAST FRIDAY.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S SOBERING TO ME THAT EVEN WITH COMPARATIVELY LITTLE GROWTH IN THOSE TWO BUDGET AREAS, THE AVERAGE HOMEOWNER WITH ONLY A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION IS REALLY GETTING HIT HARD HERE.

THE NEXT FEW SLIDES ARE JUST KIND OF BACKUP FOR THESE NUMBERS.

I'LL SKIP OVER THEM, EXCEPT TO SAY THAT IF YOU DO LOOK BACK TO 22-23 THAT'S A YEAR WHERE WHERE THE STORY WAS A BIT DIFFERENT FROM THESE PAST TWO YEARS IN TERMS OF BUDGET GROWTH, YOU KNOW, BEING LESS AND, AND THE AVERAGE HOMEOWNER'S PROPERTY TAX BILL INCREASING LESS.

THEN IF YOU GET TO THE NEXT SLIDE AFTER THOSE CHARTS IN HIGH INFLATION ENVIRONMENTS LIKE THE LAST THREE PLUS YEARS, FUNDS IN THE TREASURY LOSE PURCHASING POWER OVER TIME DUE TO THE CONSTRAINTS OF THE PUBLIC FUNDS INVESTMENT ACT.

THE STAFF PROVIDED SOME SOME INFORMATION THAT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BEEN SENT TO THE WHOLE COUNCIL IN RESPONSE TO A QUESTION I ASKED.

BUT SINCE JANUARY 1ST OF 2021, THE RETURN ON FUNDS IN OUR TREASURY HAS BEEN SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN INFLATION.

IT WAS UNDER CPI INFLATION FOR EVERY SINGLE YEAR FROM 2021 TO 2024, WAY UNDER MCI INFLATION IN 2021 AND 2022, AND ONLY SLIGHTLY ABOVE THE MUNICIPAL COST INDEX INFLATION FOR 23 AND 24.

THIS MEANS THAT EVERY YEAR SINCE 2021, THE FUNDS IN OUR TREASURY HAVE LOST PURCHASING POWER COMPARED TO CPI, AND OVER THOSE THREE AND A HALF YEARS IN AGGREGATE, THEY'VE LOST PURCHASING POWER COMPARED TO THE THE CPI AND THE MCI IN AGGREGATE FOR THAT THREE AND A HALF YEAR PERIOD.

AND I WANT TO JUST SAY BECAUSE THIS IS IMPORTANT, THIS IS IN SPITE OF EXCELLENT MANAGEMENT BY OUR FINANCE TEAM AND IS NOT DUE TO ANY LACK OF PERFORMANCE ON THE FINANCE TEAM'S PART. THEY'RE DOING EXCELLENTLY.

IT'S DUE TO THE CONSTRAINTS OF THE PUBLIC FUNDS INVESTMENT ACT THAT REALLY CONSTRAIN WHAT WE CAN INVEST IN.

WHY DO I BRING THAT UP? IT'S BECAUSE THE PROPOSAL FOR GOING TO 41.766 INSTEAD OF 41.25 IS TO PUT MORE IN THE RAINY DAY FUND.

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THE NEXT SLIDE IS A CHART KIND OF SHOWING THESE NUMBERS JUST TO ILLUSTRATE THAT.

I MEAN YOU CAN SEE, FOR EXAMPLE, 2022 OUR CUMULATIVE AGGREGATE RETURN ON FUNDS, THAT'S THE THIRD KIND OF CHART AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE, 1.7%. THE MCI WAS 10.2% THAT YEAR FOR INFLATION.

SO WE LOST A LOT OF PURCHASING POWER.

THAT'S THE MOST EXTREME EXAMPLE.

BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE AWARE THAT IN GENERAL, IN A HIGH INFLATION ENVIRONMENT THIS HAS BEEN THE TREND.

THEN MOVING ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

THIS BUDGET IS CLEARLY NOT A SUNNY DAY BUDGET.

YOU KNOW THE OPPOSITE OF A RAINY DAY BUDGET.

WE'RE FACING SIGNIFICANT FISCAL CHALLENGES.

I MEAN, EVERYONE KNOWS THE BUDGET CONTINGENCY PLAN HAS BEEN ACTIVATED IN A FIRST THAT I CAN RECALL.

THERE ARE NO RAISES IN THIS BUDGET FOR STAFF, THOUGH.

THERE IS A $1,000 BONUS IN DECEMBER FOR ALL STAFF MEMBERS.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE'VE SEEN A HIRING FREEZE EXCEPT FOR PUBLIC SAFETY AND MAYBE, MAYBE ONE OTHER LIMITED EXCEPTION.

AND SO WE'RE CLEARLY NOT IN A SUNNY DAY BUDGET.

I THINK I WOULD SUBMIT WE'RE IN A RAINY DAY BUDGET, AND I WOULD, ON THE NEXT SLIDE, SAY THAT OUR RAINY DAY FUND SHOULD BE REPLENISHED OVER TIME WITH SUNNY DAY EXCESS FUNDS.

THE STATE RAINY DAY FUND I REACHED OUT TO ONE OF OUR STATE REPS ABOUT.

THIS WAS NOT BUILT BY TAXING MORE THAN OTHERWISE WOULD HAVE BEEN THE CASE.

THEY DEDICATED SOME OIL AND GAS REVENUES AND OVERAGES IN STATE SALES TAX REVENUE BECAUSE THOSE REVENUES ARE UNCERTAIN.

I THINK WE COULD DO THE SAME THING GOING FORWARD WITH OUR EXCESS SALES TAX REVENUE AS THAT MATERIALIZES AND OTHER OTHER KIND OF ONE TIME REVENUE SOURCES.

THE NEXT SLIDE, THE RAINY DAY FUND SHOULD BE REPLENISHED OVER TIME WITH SUNNY DAY EXCESS FUNDS.

WE OBVIOUSLY DON'T INTEND TO USE IT EVERY YEAR.

IT'S NOT A ROUTINELY USED FUND.

WE CAN BUILD IT UP OVER TIME RATHER THAN TRYING TO REPLENISH THE ENTIRE AMOUNT FROM THIS WINDSTORM IN ONE YEAR.

IF SOMETHING HAPPENS SOONER THAN THAT, WE STILL HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO USE FUND BALANCE AND SET THE TAX RATE WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE NEXT YEAR FOR FY 25 THROUGH 26. AND I WOULD SUBMIT THAT TAXING RESIDENTS MORE NOW TO PREVENT A SCENARIO WHERE WE HAVE TO TAX THEM IN THE FUTURE IS UNNECESSARY.

ONTO THE LAST SLIDE, THE RAINY DAY FUND SHOULD BE REPLENISHED OVER TIME WITH SUNNY DAY EXCESS FUNDS.

WE HAVE A FUND BALANCE ALREADY BAKED INTO THE BUDGET OF OVER $28 MILLION, PER OUR 30 DAY WORKING CAPITAL FINANCIAL POLICY AND PROVIDING CUSHION IS A PURPOSE OF THAT FUND BALANCE ALREADY.

THIS IS ALREADY MORE THAN TEN TIMES THE RAINY DAY FUND ALLOCATION UNDER CONSIDERATION, AND THE ALTERNATIVE IS TO BUST THROUGH THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE FOR THE SECOND, THE ONE YEAR VOTER APPROVAL RATE FOR THE SECOND YEAR IN A ROW.

I WANT TO SAY THAT IN DECIDING BETWEEN THESE TWO TAX RATES, WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING THAT WOULD PUT MONEY INTO OR TAKE MONEY OUT OF OUR EMPLOYEES POCKETS.

THE ONLY DIFFERENCE WOULD BE MONEY PUT AWAY IN THE RAINY DAY FUND.

I SUPPORT THE RAINY DAY FUND.

I SUPPORT FUNDING IT IN THE USUAL WAY THROUGH SAVING THE EXCESS FUNDS FROM SUNNY DAYS.

BUT I DON'T THINK THAT WE NEED TO DO THIS THIS YEAR.

IT IS IMPORTANT TO BE READY FOR ANOTHER EMERGENCY.

IT COULD BE NEXT YEAR, BUT WE ALREADY HAVE A PROGRAMED FUND BALANCE OF OVER $28 MILLION.

PER OUR FINANCIAL POLICIES, WE COULD USE ANY ANY SALES TAX EXCESS AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR EACH YEAR.

THAT WOULD BE MORE SIMILAR TO HOW THE STATE IS DOING THEIR RAINY DAY FUND, AND IT WOULD ALLOW US TO DO IT WITHOUT BUSTING THROUGH THE ONE YEAR VAR AND USING INCREMENT FOR THE SECOND YEAR IN A ROW.

THANK YOU. ANY ANYBODY ELSE? SHELBY.

I'D LIKE. I THINK EVERYTHING THAT COUNCILMAN RICCIARDELLI LAID FORTH IS SALIENT.

I THINK IT MAKES SENSE. I CHAMPION THE RAINY DAY FUND ORIGINALLY, AND I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHERE WE HAVE LOST REVENUE IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS. SO WE SAW, IF I REMEMBER THE NUMBER CORRECTLY, IT WAS $1 MILLION LESS THIS YEAR FROM EXEMPTIONS.

AND I BELIEVE THAT'S A NET LOSS.

THAT'S NOT JUST IT'S NOT GROWING AS FAST AS WE WOULD HAVE EXPECTED.

SO IT WASN'T IT WASN'T ON THE EXEMPTIONS IT MAY BE ONE BUT THE THE MILLION THE $3 MILLION IN THE FREEZE, BUT WE ALSO HAVE DEVELOPMENT RELATED REVENUE IS DECLINING.

WE HAVE A NUMBER OF AREAS WHERE WE ACTUALLY HAVE SEEN A DECREASE IN REVENUE OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, SO WE'RE HAPPY TO PROVIDE YOU THAT.

BUT THE BIGGEST CHUNK THAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW, IN ADDITION TO THE FREEZES, AS I MENTIONED WITH CHAPTER 42, IS ANOTHER ONE.

WE ALSO HAVE THE PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATIONS COMING OFF THE TAX ROLLS.

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AND THOSE ARE ALL CONTRIBUTING TO THE TO THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE.

AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS GOING TO BRING UP THE PUBLIC FACILITIES, CORPORATIONS LOSS.

DO WE HAVE THE LATEST NET LOSS FROM THAT? WE DO NOT. AT THIS POINT.

WE'RE STILL ABOUT $2 MILLION A YEAR.

OKAY. ROUGHLY.

OKAY. SO THE POINT I WAS GOING TO BRING UP WRIT LARGE IS KAREN.

AND THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION, KAREN.

KAREN HAD SHOWED THAT EVEN WITH THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, THERE WOULD STILL BE A LITTLE OVER A HAIR OVER $100 INCREASE TO HOMESTEADED HOMEOWNER'S PROPERTY TAXES SO YOU CAN ASK WITH NO NEW REVENUE, HOW COULD THAT BE? THAT'S STILL ABOUT A 6.4-6.5% INCREASE IN THE PROPERTY TAXES, AND PART OF IT IS DUE TO THESE THINGS, THE ADDITIONAL LOSS FROM EXEMPTIONS, THE PUBLIC FACILITIES, CORPORATIONS MONEY JUST GOING COMPLETELY OUT THE WINDOW.

IT'S JUST POOF IT'S GONE.

IT DOESN'T EXIST ANYMORE.

AND SO IT'S THE IT'S THE UNWITTING HOMEOWNER, THE UNSUSPECTING HOMEOWNER THAT'S HAVING TO MAKE UP FOR THIS.

BUT THAT'S ONLY PART OF THE STORY IS BECAUSE THE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE HOMESTEADED RATES FOR HOMEOWNERS, BUT THAT'S ONLY HALF OF THE TOTAL TAX ROLLS. THE OTHER HALF ARE BROKEN UP BETWEEN WHAT WE WOULD TRADITIONALLY THINK OF AS COMMERCIAL MEANING BUSINESS BUSINESSES AND MULTI-FAMILY AND FOLKS WHO RENT, WHETHER IT'S A SINGLE FAMILY HOME OR APARTMENTS, THEY DON'T GET ANY OF THE EXEMPTIONS, THEY DON'T GET ANY OF THE FREEZES.

THEY DON'T GET ANY OTHER PROTECTIONS UNDER PROPERTY TAX LAW.

THEY GET PUNCHED FULL IN THE FACE WITH EVERY BIT OF PROPERTY VALUE INCREASE EVERY YEAR, WHICH IS ALSO GOING TO KIND OF MAKE UP FOR THESE GAPS.

THE LOSS OF DEVELOPMENT REVENUE.

THE THE EXEMPTIONS AND THE PUBLIC FACILITIES CORPORATION.

SO ALL OF THAT TO SAY WHICH WAS A SEPARATE COMMENT FROM THE RAINY DAY FUND.

I'M SORRY, COUNCILMAN RICCIARDELLI.

ALL OF THAT TO SAY, AS WE LOOK AT THESE TAX INCREASES UNDERSTAND THIS IS TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC, UNDERSTAND THAT SOME OF THE DYNAMICS WE'RE WORKING UNDER ARE REMOVING REVENUE FROM OUR ROLLS THAT HAVE BEEN THERE BEFORE.

THE MONEY HAS TO COME FROM SOMEWHERE, EITHER BY MAKING CUTS, WHICH WE'RE DOING, OR INCREASING TAXES, WHICH WE'RE ALSO DOING, TRYING TO MEET IN THE MIDDLE.

IT'S ONE THING WHEN YOU HAVE AT LEAST A BASELINE REVENUE EVERY YEAR, AND YOU EITHER GO UP A LITTLE OR GO UP A LOT, OR MAYBE DON'T GO UP AT ALL.

BUT WHEN YOU'RE ACTIVELY LOSING THESE SOURCES OF REVENUE, IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THE EXCELLENT STATE OF CITY SERVICES THAT Y'ALL HAVE COME TO EXPECT, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT COMES FROM SOMEWHERE.

REGARDING THE AND I WOULD LIKE THOSE BREAKDOWNS, BY THE WAY, PLEASE, FROM WHERE WE'VE LOST ALL OF THAT REVENUE.

REGARDING THE RAINY DAY FUND.

I'M A LITTLE ON THE FENCE BECAUSE I AGREE THAT WE SHOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE INCREASING TAXES TO MAKE UP FOR THE RAINY DAY FUND.

AND I DO AGREE THAT WE HAVE THE 30 DAYS OF WORKING CAPITAL IN RESERVE.

AND I THINK WE SHOULD PROBABLY STICK TO THAT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCE.

WE'RE INVOLVED IN A LOT RIGHT NOW AS A CITY.

AND I'VE PICKED A FEW FIGHTS MYSELF.

WHICH I'M COGNIZANT OF.

AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN ROLL WITH THE PUNCHES EFFECTIVELY BECAUSE THOSE FIGHTS AREN'T ARBITRARY.

THEY'RE IN THE LONG TERM BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY.

BUT WE ARE AS WE'VE SPOKEN ABOUT A COUPLE OF MEETINGS NOW, FULLY TRANSITIONED FROM A GROWTH CITY TO A MATURE CITY, AND THAT COMES WITH A LOT OF GEAR SHIFTING. AND WE'RE NOT DONE WITH SHIFTING THOSE GEARS.

AND IT'S IT'S GOING TO INVOLVE SOME PAIN.

ANYBODY ELSE? I, I APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION, ANTHONY.

I MEAN I APPRECIATE IT.

WE ALL DO.

AND I, FOR ONE WOULD WOULD SUPPORT THE CITY MANAGER'S RATE AT 41.76, KEEPING IT THE SAME AND REALLY ONLY USING PART OF THAT INCREMENT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IF YOU DON'T USE IT IN THREE YEARS, IT'S GONE.

AND THOSE ARE ALSO SOME, YOU KNOW, SOME LESSONS LEARNED WHEN WE WERE DOING NO NEW REVENUE YEAR AFTER YEAR.

SO I SUPPORT THE 41.76.

IT'S IT REMAINS THE SAME AND AT THE SAME TIME, IT IT KIND OF HELPS US RECOVER FROM WHAT HAPPENED TO US THIS YEAR IN THE RAINY DAY FUND. AND AT THE SAME TIME, WE STILL, AS SHELBY SAID, WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF YOU KNOW, CUTS THAT WE'VE DONE OVER THIS BUDGET PERIOD THAT, YOU KNOW, ARE GOING TO BE TOUGH.

AND AND SO I THINK, I THINK FOR THE CITY AND WHAT THEY'VE TAKEN ON JUST TO KIND OF TAKE CARE

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AND I WANT TO CONTINUE TO BE ABLE TO, TO PROTECT THE CITY WHEN, WHEN WE HAVE KIND OF A TRAGIC MOMENT AND WE'RE ABLE TO TO HELP OUR COMMUNITY. KAYCI.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF I'M FULLY READY TO SAY TONIGHT WHETHER I'M FOR THAT TAX RATE OR NOT.

BUT I WILL SAY THAT I THINK IF WE ARE GOING TO GO WITH THAT TAX RATE, A COUPLE OF THINGS WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO TELL BOTH OUR EMPLOYEES AND OUR CITIZENS. ONE WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SHOW, I THINK, THAT WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MINIMIZE COSTS THAT ARE UNNEEDED IN OUR, IN OUR BUDGET BOTH FOR OUR EMPLOYEES WHO WERE SAYING, WE CAN'T AFFORD TO GIVE YOU A, YOU KNOW, A RAISE THIS YEAR. BECAUSE IT GOES BACK TO THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE $200,000 HERE, THE $200,000 THERE.

IF YOU'RE A, YOU KNOW, FRONTLINE EMPLOYEE THAT IS SEEN, OH, YOU CAN'T GIVE ME A RAISE, BUT WE'RE SPENDING MONEY ON THIS.

WE'RE SPENDING MONEY ON THAT.

AND THEY THINK THIS MIGHT NOT BE WORTHWHILE.

YOU COULD PUT THAT MONEY TOWARDS GIVING ME A RAISE.

I THINK THAT'S HARD TO SWALLOW.

SAME THING WITH THE CITIZEN, RIGHT? IF THEY ARE OUT SEEING THAT WE'VE ASKED THEM TO PAY MORE, AND THEN THEY SEE US SPENDING STUFF ON THINGS THAT THEY THINK COULD BE SOMEWHAT TRIVIAL, THEN THAT'S HARD FOR THEM TO SWALLOW. WHY THEY'RE PAYING A HIGHER TAX BILL.

SO I THINK IT GOES BOTH TOWARDS THE INTERNAL MORALE OF THE ORGANIZATION, BUT ALSO TO OUR CITIZENS.

SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ARE ABLE TO SHOW THAT.

I ALSO THINK WITH THE RAINY DAY FUND, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN GO TO OUR CITIZENS AND SAY, WE'RE RAISING THE TAX JUST SO THAT WE CAN REPLENISH THIS.

SO I'M NOT SURE IF WE MAY NEED TO GO WITH SOMETHING TO THE POINT THAT ANTHONY IS MAKING OR OTHERS, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I FEEL STRONGLY ENOUGH ABOUT, IF THERE'S THINGS THAT WE CAN DO OVER TIME TO GET THERE, OR IF THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT WE FEEL LIKE WE REALLY NEED TO MAKE THIS IMPACT IN OUR CITY THAT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE TO SPEND THE MONEY ON FOR THAT TAX INCREASE.

MR. MAYOR, GO AHEAD.

ALL RIGHT. SO EVERY YEAR I'M THE BAD PERSON.

I ALWAYS BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO WHEN WE PUBLISH THE RATE, WE NEED TO BE THE HIGHEST THAT WE CAN BE BECAUSE WE CAN ALWAYS COME DOWN, BUT WE CAN NEVER GO BACK UP.

AM I CORRECT, KAREN? SO I CAN'T.

I'M SORRY. CAN YOU? IS GOING TO BE ON SEPTEMBER 9TH.

ALL WE'RE DOING TONIGHT IS THE TOP RATE.

YOU'RE THINKING OF WHETHER IT'S 41.

76, IT'S 42, WHATEVER YOU'RE THINKING.

AND THEN SEPTEMBER 9TH WE TO READJUST AND TO RECALCULATE.

AND I EVERY YEAR I SAID, LET'S DO IT, YOU KNOW, JUST TO BE SAFE.

AND EVERY YEAR I'M TOLD NO.

SO SO I'M STILL GOING TO BE THAT WAY.

I BELIEVE THAT WE, WE DON'T NEED TO SELF RESTRICT AT THIS TIME.

WE DEFINITELY DO NEED TO SELF RESTRICT ON SEPTEMBER THAT THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

AND THE REASON WHY I BELIEVE THAT THAT IS CRITICAL ESPECIALLY THIS BUDGET, IS BECAUSE EXACTLY WHAT COUNCILMAN PRINCE JUST SAID, WE ARE DOING A LOT OF HIRING FREEZES.

WE'RE DOING A LOT OF TIGHTENING THE BELT.

BUT REALLY, WHAT WE PROBABLY SHOULD BE LOOKING AT IS WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE CAN RESTRICT THAT WILL ALLOW US TO GIVE THE, THE NEED FOR A INCREASE IN OUR SALARY FOR THE THE CURRENT EMPLOYEES THAT WE HAVE.

I MEAN, HIRING FREEZE IS GREAT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GETTING NEW EMPLOYEES, BUT TAKING CARE OF THE ONES THAT WE HAVE NOW IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE RETENTION IS, IS IS THE MOST BENEFICIAL AND THE MOST EFFICIENT USE OF ANY TYPE OF FUNDS.

IF WE CAN RETAIN, IT IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN HIRING NEW EMPLOYEES.

WE SAVE A LOT OF MONEY JUST BY DOING THAT.

SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN, WHERE WE COULD SEE WHETHER OR NOT WE COULD SQUEEZE OUT SOME OF THE MONEY TO ACTUALLY ALLOW FOR, I MEAN, EVEN IF WE CAN'T, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T COME UP WITH THE, YOU KNOW, THE

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NUMBER TWO, ABOUT THE RAINY DAY FUND.

LOOK, WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT THIS HURT, THIS HURRICANE OR STORM CAME THROUGH CITY OF PLANO.

AND THAT WAS A SURPRISE.

AND WHO KNOWS WHAT THE NEXT THING IS GOING TO BE.

IS IT A DEMONSTRATION? IS IT A RIOT? IS IT A STORM? I MEAN, WE DON'T KNOW.

AND THAT'S WHAT THE RAINY DAY FUND IS ALL ABOUT, IS TO TO PREVENT US FROM GOING INTO OUR BUDGET AND EATING OUR OWN IN ORDER TO PAY FOR SOMETHING THAT WE DIDN'T EXPECT.

AND I REALLY DO BELIEVE THAT IN ALL BUSINESSES, AND CITY OF PLANO IS A BUSINESS, WE HAVE TO HAVE A BUFFER.

WE CAN'T KEEP CUTTING.

I MEAN, KAREN, HOW MANY YEARS HAVE I SAID, ARE WE DOWN TO THE BONES? AND YOU KEEP SAYING, YES, WE ARE.

I MEAN, AT LEAST THREE YEARS THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS, ARE WE CUT DOWN TO THE BONE? YES WE ARE. WELL, WE CAN'T DO THAT IN, IN IN RUNNING A BUSINESS.

IN ALL BUSINESSES, WE HAVE TO HAVE A BUFFER JUST IN CASE.

IF WE DON'T USE IT THIS YEAR, THEN GREAT.

WE WON'T, WE WON'T, YOU KNOW, WE WON'T PLAN IT FOR NEXT YEAR.

BUT WE'VE GOT TO HAVE SOMETHING.

THIS CUTTING DOWN TO THE, YOU KNOW, BONE AND TIGHTENING OUR BELT IS JUST NOT SOMETHING THAT IS VERY CONDUCIVE TO RUNNING A CITY OF EXCELLENCE.

AND THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY.

THANK YOU. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK COUNCILMAN RICCIARDELLI FOR THIS SLIDE PRESENTATION HE GAVE.

IT'S WELL THOUGHT OUT, WELL PRESENTED.

I'M SURE YOU GOT A LOT OF INFORMATION FROM KAREN HERE.

BIG TIME. AND THANK YOU AGAIN.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION ON THAT.

IT IS EYE OPENING, BUT I DO WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS WHY A LOT OF OUR RESIDENTS, THEIR TAX BILL WENT UP IS THE VALUE OF THEIR HOME WENT UP SIGNIFICANTLY.

AND THAT'S WE'VE SEEN THAT TREND AND THE REASON WHY PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE IN THIS CITY OF EXCELLENCE.

AND WHY ARE WE THE CITY OF EXCELLENCE? BECAUSE WE GIVE OUTSTANDING SERVICE THERE.

WE GIVE OUTSTANDING SERVICE.

AND THERE'S A COST TO THAT.

AND THAT COST IS LABOR AND MATERIALS.

OUR FRONTLINE EMPLOYEES, OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, THEY'RE THE BEST IN THE STATE.

WE'VE ALWAYS SAID THAT.

AND THERE'S A COST TO THAT.

SO YOU KNOW AS WE I'M LIKE COUNCIL COUNCILWOMAN PRINCE HERE, I'M NOT REALLY READY TO COMMIT TO IT.

BUT WHEN WE USE 41.

76, THAT'S STILL ONE OF THE LOWEST RATES IN THE NORTH TEXAS AREA.

AND SO IF WE KEEP THAT IN MIND THAT WE KEEP OUR TAX RATE FLAT AND KEEP IN MIND THAT WE STILL HAVE TO PAY OUR FRONT LINE WORKERS TO KEEP THAT SERVICE HERE, WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND SAY, WHERE DO WE CUT THE COST? AND LIKE COUNCILWOMAN PRINCE SAID $200,000 HERE, $180,000 HERE.

THAT'S REALLY WHERE WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO START BEING MORE MINDFUL IN THE FUTURE OF WHAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT HERE.

BUT AGAIN, I'M KIND OF LOOKING AT THE CITY MANAGER'S APPROACH HERE, WHERE WE'RE AT THE RAINY DAY FUND.

I'M KIND OF HAPPY WHERE IT'S AT RIGHT NOW, AND I THINK IF WE GET A SURPLUS IN OUR TAX REVENUE, MAYBE THAT'S WHERE THAT SURPLUS GOES.

BUT I'M NOT SURE I'M READY TO BUMP UP RATES JUST TO REPLENISH THE THE, THE RAINY DAY FUND.

THAT THAT JUST DOESN'T MAKE GOOD POLICY SENSE TO ME.

BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S WHERE MY OPINION WHERE WE OUGHT TO BE MOVING FORWARD.

THANK YOU MAYOR. IT'S GREAT TO BE LAST SOMETIMES I THINK I'VE HEARD SOME GREAT COMMENTS FROM ANTHONY.

AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.

I MEAN, YOU PUT A LOT OF TIME AND WORK IN IT.

IT MAKES IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.

KAREN, YOU AND YOUR STAFF.

I KNOW WITH MARK PUT IN A LOT OF WORK BRINGING US TOGETHER.

I MEAN, YOU DON'T JUST MATERIALIZE 800 PAGES.

I MEAN, THAT'S INPUT FROM, YOU KNOW, FROM EVERYBODY.

EVEN PUBLISHING.

AND THAT'S ALL WE'RE DOING TONIGHT IS SETTING OUR PUBLISH RATE, IF WE STAY AT 41.76, I MEAN, LET'S FACE IT, THERE'S THERE'S OTHER CITIES IN OUR NORTH TEXAS AREA THAT ARE OVER $0.70.

I MEAN, WE ARE, IF NOT THE LOWEST, WE'RE AMONG THE VERY LOWEST ANYWHERE IN THE REGION.

I'M LIKE, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL MEMBER HORNE, I DO NOT WANT TO SEE US CUT SERVICES AT OUR 41.76 RATE.

WE PROVIDE SUPERIOR SERVICES TO A LOT OF CITIES THAT HAVE MUCH HIGHER TAX RATES THAN WE DO.

AND I DON'T WANT THAT TO CHANGE.

I WANT TO BE CERTAIN.

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WE'VE GOT TO BE CERTAIN AS COUNCIL MEMBER PRINCE WAS SAYING THAT WE TAKE CARE OF THE PEOPLE THAT PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES FOR US.

AND UNTIL WE'VE DONE THAT, WE DON'T NEED TO BE DOING OTHER THINGS, WHETHER IT'S A LITTLE BIT WE CUT DENIED OR SOME SOME OTHER THINGS HERE.

BUT BUT I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF I THINK YOUR RATE IS FINE.

LET'S PUBLISH THAT. WE'LL HAVE A MEETING ON THURSDAY NIGHT.

WE'LL HAVE MORE DISCUSSION.

WE GET TOGETHER IN SEPTEMBER.

THAT'S WHEN WE'LL PUT ALL THE FACTS TOGETHER AND MAKE THE DECISION.

SO I'M GOOD WITH THE 41.76.

IS THAT THE RECOMMENDED RATE OR THE REVISED RATE? YES, THAT IS CORRECT.

THAT IS WHAT THE CITY MANAGER INCLUDED.

YES. THAT'S THE RECOMMENDED, 41.76.

YES. SO GO AHEAD.

SO COUNCIL A LOT TO UNPACK.

COUNCILMAN JUST A COMMENT AND MAYBE WE'LL GET INTO THIS MORE ON THURSDAY.

BUT IF WE ARE TO GO WITH THE RECOMMENDED RATE OF 41.76, THEN I THINK I'D RATHER PUT THAT MONEY TOWARD MAKING SURE WE CAN BE ON PAR WITH THE COMPENSATION STUDY ACROSS ALL OF OUR STAFF, RATHER THAN REPLENISHING THE RAINY DAY FUND.

I'M OKAY WITH THAT, TOO AND WE CAN DO THAT.

SO LET ME LET ME BACK UP A LITTLE BIT, BECAUSE AS I SAID, THERE'S A LOT TO UNPACK WITH ALL THE COMMENTS HERE.

SO FIRST OF ALL, NUMBER ONE, THANK YOU, COUNCIL FOR RECOGNIZING THE SITUATION WE'RE IN.

I APPRECIATE THE SERIOUSNESS THAT ALL OF Y'ALL ARE PUTTING INTO THIS, AND THE THOUGHTFULNESS OF PUTTING TOGETHER PRESENTATIONS AND ALL YOUR COMMENTS BACK TO THE CITY.

I ASSURE YOU, THIS IS STILL THE BEST CITY IN NORTH TEXAS TO WORK FOR, AND THERE'S STILL A LOT OF GREAT THINGS GOING ON.

BUT WE NEED TO CHANGE SOME THINGS.

AND SO WE ARE WORKING ON LOOKING AT WHAT THOSE ADJUSTMENTS TO EXPENDITURES AND POLICIES AND EVERYTHING ELSE SHOULD, SHOULD BE.

WE'RE WORKING ON THAT THROUGH OUR FISCAL ROADMAP, AND WE'RE GOING TO BRING BACK A PACKAGE TO COUNCIL TO CONSIDER ADJUSTMENTS AND CHANGES TO OUR EXPENDITURES, TO SOME OF OUR POLICIES, TO SOME OF OUR CONTRIBUTIONS.

WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BRING BACK.

BECAUSE CANDIDLY, GOING FORWARD, THOSE ARE ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE TO ENSURE THAT OUR REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES ARE IN ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT THE NEEDS ARE OF THE COMMUNITY AND OF OUR EMPLOYEES.

COUPLE OF QUICK THINGS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE POINTING OUT.

37% OF THE HOUSEHOLDS IN PLANO.

37% OF THE HOMESTEADS IN PLANO, REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU DO GOING UP, WILL NOT EXPERIENCE AN INCREASE.

THAT IS THE NUMBER OF SENIOR FREEZES WE HAVE OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS, 4500 MORE WILL BE ADDED TO THAT LIST.

WE WILL BE AT I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO.

IT WAS GOING TO TAKE UNTIL 2035 FOR US TO HAVE 50% OF OUR HOMESTEADS BE IN A SENIOR FREEZE.

I WAS WRONG LOOKING AT THE RECENT NUMBERS, IT'S 2030.

WE LOST FIVE YEARS.

THAT MEANS EVERY TIME WE WANT TO PASS ALONG 3.5%, YOU GET 1.5% OR 1.75% BACK.

SO WE ARE IN A POSITION NOW THAT AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TAX RATE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IMPACTS.

WE NEED TO BE REAL ABOUT WHAT THE FACTS ARE AND WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR COMMUNITY.

WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE RETIRING IN PLANO.

THAT'S GREAT. THAT'S GREAT, GREAT FOLKS RETIRING IN THE CITY.

BUT WE HAVE A POLICY THAT IS LIMITING THE ABILITY TO PAY FOR SOME OF THOSE SERVICES.

IT'S HARD TO GIVE 3.5% INCREASES IN SALARIES IF WE'RE ONLY GETTING 1.75% BACK IN THE REVENUE SIDE OF THINGS.

SO WE JUST NEED TO BE AWARE OF WHAT WE'RE FACING WITH THAT, BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE WE'RE MOVING AND IN 2030, 50% OF THE HOUSEHOLDS IN PLANO WILL LIKELY BE IN THAT SENIOR FREEZE. SO WE FACE SOME CHALLENGES.

I AM IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT TAKING THE $2.8 MILLION THAT WE HAD GOING TO THE RAINY DAY FUND AND TALK ABOUT SPREADING IT ACROSS THE EMPLOYEES, I COMPLETELY AM FINE WITH THAT.

I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH IT WHATSOEVER.

BECAUSE MAKE NO MISTAKE, THAT'S WHERE THE WORK GETS DONE.

THIS IS BALANCING RIGHT NOW THE FREEZE.

THE FREEZE IS HAVING AN IMPACT ON OUR FOLKS OUT THERE IN THE FIELD, ON THE PEOPLE ANSWERING THE PHONES AND ON PEOPLE RESPONDING TO SERVICES.

THIS A FREEZE IMPACTS OUR SERVICES, AND I AM SENSITIVE TO BALANCING THIS ON THE BACKS OF EMPLOYEES.

SO IF WE WANT TO TAKE THAT AND TAKE THAT OUT OF THE RAINY DAY FUND, I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH GIVING THAT TO THE EMPLOYEES AT ALL.

I THINK IT'S A GREAT MOVE, BUT I WOULD SAY IT NEEDS TO GO ACROSS ALL EMPLOYEES BECAUSE EVERY EMPLOYEE OUT THERE, WHETHER THEY'RE READING A WATER METER, PICKING UP A PHONE, PUTTING OUT A FIRE, WHATEVER, THEY ARE PROVIDING SERVICES THAT ARE NEEDED IN THIS COMMUNITY.

THE OTHER THING THAT IT COULD BE USED FOR IS REMOVING THE FREEZE.

THE HOLE THAT WE'RE FILLING IS AROUND THAT $2.8 MILLION, SO WE COULD ACTUALLY FILL THOSE POSITIONS.

I HONESTLY THINK THAT TAKING CARE OF OUR EMPLOYEES THAT ARE HERE RIGHT NOW IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.

BUT MAKE NO MISTAKE, WITH THAT INCREASED WORKLOAD AND FEWER WORKERS, IT'S STILL GETTING BALANCED WITH THE EMPLOYEES, SO I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH IT WHATSOEVER.

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BUT WE DO HAVE $1,000 PER EMPLOYEE ALREADY BUDGETED IN IN THE BUDGET.

SO THAT'S STILL IN THERE.

SO THIS WOULD BE IN ADDITION TO THAT $1,000.

MAYBE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO FOLD KIND OF A SMALLER PERCENTAGE.

AND STILL THE $1,000.

HAPPY TO CONSIDER THAT BECAUSE COUNCIL THIS MATTERS TO TO MAKING SURE THAT WE STAY A DESIRED EMPLOYER, THAT WE'RE TAKING CARE OF THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE IN THE FIELD AND THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY GETTING GETTING THE COMPENSATION THAT WILL KEEP US COMPETITIVE.

BUT I WILL SAY ONE LAST THING.

LET'S NOT MISTAKE THE HOURLY WAGE FOR COMPENSATION.

WAGE IS ONE PIECE OF ABOUT TEN ELEMENTS OF COMPENSATION.

WE ALSO HAVE LONGEVITY STILL HAPPENING.

WE STILL HAVE, YOU KNOW, PLENTY OF THINGS HAPPENING WITH, YOU KNOW, VACATION BUYBACK, SICK LEAVE BUYBACK, ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS, STEP PLANS.

WE HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS IN THERE THAT WE DO HAVE THAT ARE STILL TAKING CARE OF EMPLOYEES, BUT OUR EMPLOYEES ARE OUR GREATEST ASSET.

SO IF WE HAVE ANY CHANCE TO TO TAKE CARE OF OUR EMPLOYEES, I'M FOR IT.

LAST THING I'LL SAY.

THE FUND BALANCE DISCUSSION IS A TRICKY ONE.

COUNCIL HAS FINANCIAL POLICIES THAT SAYS WE'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN 30 DAYS.

MY CONCERN WITH USING THE FUND BALANCE AS AN EMERGENCY FUND, WHICH IT IS, THEREFORE IS THE CONSEQUENCE THEREAFTER, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN ELECTION OF YOUR CITIZENS, YOU'RE IF YOU HAVE TO TAP INTO THAT IN A MATERIAL WAY, YOU STILL RUN INTO THAT 3.5% INCREASE THAT WE HAVE ON THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE.

AND IF YOU HAVE TO GO ABOVE THAT, THAT REQUIRES AN ELECTION OF YOUR CITIZENS.

IF THEY DON'T PASS IT FOR ANY REASON, YOU HAVE VIOLATED YOUR OWN POLICIES AND YOU'RE IMMEDIATELY IN A COST CUTTING MODE.

IT PRESENTS A A QUAGMIRE AND A CHALLENGE JUST ON A FISCAL SIDE OF THINGS.

I'M NOT SAYING YOU CAN'T DO IT COUNCIL, COUNCIL CAN MAKE MAKE THAT DECISION OF THE RISK THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO TAKE.

BUT I THINK OF THAT WINDSTORM AND WHAT HAPPENED, I THINK OF OF AN EMERGENCY, OF A HUGE INCIDENT THAT HAPPENS IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT KEEP ME UP AT NIGHT.

AND I CAN TELL Y'ALL THE BAD THINGS I THINK ABOUT WHEN I THINK ABOUT POTENTIAL.

BUT I APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S APPROACH TO THINGS.

WE'RE HAPPY TO BRING BACK OPTIONS IF YOU WOULD LIKE US TO DO THAT.

IT SOUNDS LIKE 41.76 HAS A GENERAL CONSENSUS ON BEING CAREFUL ABOUT THAT, BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO BRING BACK SOME OPTIONS THAT WE CAN WE CAN USE.

BUT IF Y'ALL WANT US JUST TO APPLY THAT ACROSS THE BOARD, COUNCIL, YOU HAVE MY SUPPORT.

AND I KNOW I ALREADY USED SEVEN MINUTES AND FIVE SECONDS, SO I'LL BE QUICK, BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY I'M OKAY WITH PROVIDING NOTICE AT 41.76 CENTS.

OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER PRINCE AND COUNCIL MEMBER HORNE AND, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL MEMBERS WILLIAMS AND SMITH, I THINK JUST ABOUT EVERYBODY SAID I CAN'T COMMIT TO THAT RATE OR 41.25 TONIGHT.

I THINK WE NEED TO KEEP ANALYZING.

BUT ONE OF THE MAIN POINTS OF MY PRESENTATION WAS THAT I JUST DON'T THINK THAT WE CAN SOCK $2.8 MILLION AWAY IN THE RAINY DAY FUND AND AND GO OVER THE ONE YEAR VOTER APPROVAL RATE TO DO THAT IN THE SAME BUDGET WHERE WE'RE TELLING EMPLOYEES THERE'S NO MONEY FOR RAISES.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, TO ME, IF AND AGAIN, NOT COMMITTING TO WHAT RATE WE SHOULD BE AT, BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO BE AT 41.76 CENTS, I'D RATHER SEE US USE IT FOR EMPLOYEES, AS SEVERAL COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE HAVE ALLUDED TO.

I'M SENSITIVE TO THE CONSEQUENCES OF, YOU KNOW, BURNING INTO THE FUND BALANCE AND STILL HITTING THE 3.5%, YOU KNOW, VOTER APPROVAL RATE FOR THE NEXT YEAR.

BUT I STILL THINK, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HAVE SUCH PRESSING NEEDS PRESENTLY TRYING TO GET ALL OF THAT BACK IN ONE YEAR JUST ISN'T CONSISTENT WITH HOW RAINY DAY FUNDS ARE NORMALLY FUNDED.

THEY'RE NORMALLY FUNDED A LITTLE BIT AT A TIME THROUGH EXCESS REVENUE DURING THOSE SUNNY DAY BUDGETS.

SO ANYWAY, THAT'S JUST MY COMMENTS AND I'LL VOTE TO TO PUBLISH THE 41.76% RATE.

DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS? SORRY. OH, JULIE.

JULIE, DO YOU HEAR ME? OH, YES. I DIDN'T HEAR MY NAME.

I'M SORRY. NO, I YEAH I MEAN I, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID.

I WITH THE ONLY EXCEPTION, [INAUDIBLE] TO YOUR POINT ABOUT RETENTION OF EMPLOYEES, I THINK AND I THINK CITY MANAGER ISRAELSON ALLUDED TO THIS, THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HAPPEN TO HIT A DEPARTMENT WITH A HIRING FREEZE, IT'S ALREADY SHORT STAFFED, THEN THAT POTENTIALLY COULD AFFECT OUR RETENTION WHEN WE OVERWORK OUR PEOPLE.

SO THAT WAS REALLY ABOUT THE ONLY THING THAT THAT WAS SAID THAT I MAYBE DIDN'T AGREE WITH.

I ALSO FEEL THAT IT WOULD BE SMART TO GO AHEAD AND PUBLISH AT THAT HIGHER RATE AND THEN CONTINUE TO ASSESS AND DECIDE WHAT THE BEST DECISION IS THAT BEING A MATURE CITY THAT WE ARE.

I MEAN, ANY, IT'S KIND OF LIKE FINANCIAL PLANNING 101 WHEN YOU SIT DOWN WITH YOUR PLANNER AND THEY SAY, WHERE ARE YOU AT? WHAT'S YOUR RISK? YOUR RISK REWARD.

WHAT ARE YOU HOW COMFORTABLE ARE YOU WITH THINGS? AND WE'RE KIND OF AT THAT MATURE END NOW WHERE I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO BE MORE CONSERVATIVE.

WE NEED TO PUT THE MONEY ASIDE BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT GROWTH COMING.

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AND SO FOR THAT REASON, I, I SEE THAT AS A CONSERVATIVE MOVE THAT I WOULD BE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH TO PUT THOSE FUNDS ASIDE.

SO I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE, THE 41.76 AS THE PUBLISHED RATE AND TAKING SOME MORE TIME TO CONSIDER FINAL DECISION ON THAT.

THANK YOU. JUST REAL QUICK.

AND THEN AND NOW NOW I HAVE TO DEAL WITH SHELBY HERE.

YEAH. GO AHEAD. WE'RE A MOUTHY BUNCH.

NO, I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT.

AND I'M ALL FOR EXERCISING RESTRAINT AND NOT BURDENING OUR TAXPAYERS UNDULY.

OUR RAINY DAY FUND, UNLIKE THE STATES, DIDN'T EXIST WHEN WE HAD SUNNY DAYS, JUST LIKE WE HAD A FEW SUNNY MONTHS WHEN THE RAINY DAY FUND WAS CREATED BEFORE IT REALLY STARTED RAINING. SO OUR ABILITY TO CONTRIBUTE TO THAT HAS BEEN VERY LIMITED SINCE ITS INCEPTION.

LIKEWISE, WHEN WHEN BAD THINGS HAPPEN, WE HAVE A LOT LESS FLEXIBILITY THAN THE STATE TO DEAL WITH THEM.

SO I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THOSE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN OUR RAINY DAY FUND AND THE STATE'S.

OKAY. MR. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PUBLISH THE CITY MANAGER'S RECOMMENDED RATE, WHICH IS 41.76 CENTS. SECOND, SECOND AND THIRD.

DID YOU GET THAT? OKAY.

SO I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO PUBLISH THE 41.76 RATE.

ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR HAND.

OKAY. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

KAREN. WELL.

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Discussion of the Proposed FY 2024-25 Community Investment Program.

ITEM FIVE.

DISCUSSION OF THE PROPOSED 2024-25 COMMUNITY INVESTMENT PROGRAM.

YES. THIS IS THE ITEM TO GO OVER WHAT IS INCLUDED IN THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT PROGRAM FOR THIS NEXT YEAR.

THE TOTALS $317.3 MILLION, OUT OF THIS $119 IS FOR STREET IMPROVEMENTS.

$59 IS FOR PARKS AND RECREATION, WATER AND SEWERS, $53, CAPITAL MAINTENANCE $43 AND MUNICIPAL DRAINAGE $20. THE FUND IS, OR THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT PROGRAM IS FUNDED BY A SERIES OF DEBT FUNDS AND CASH.

THIS NEXT YEAR, WE DO PLAN ON ISSUING $85 MILLION.

THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR BOND SALE NEXT SPRING TO GO TOWARDS THESE PROJECTS.

NOW, ONCE THAT IS ISSUED, WE WILL BE OUT OF STREET FUNDING.

SO AS Y'ALL KNOW, WE ARE STARTING THE MAY 3RD, 2025 BOND REFERENDUM PROGRAM WITH THE BRCAC OUR CITIZEN ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

WE'RE STARTING THAT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.

WE HAVE INCLUDED WITHIN THE WATER AND SEWER REVENUE SIDE, AN $80 MILLION REVENUE BOND TO BE SOLD.

WE HAVE SEVERAL VERY, VERY LARGE PROJECTS INCLUDED FOR WATER AND SEWER.

AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BEEN ON PAY AS YOU GO SINCE 1993.

WE HARDLY EVER ISSUE DEBT UNLESS IT'S FOR MAJOR, MAJOR PROJECTS AND WE HAVE SEVERAL OF THEM THAT THEY WILL BE COMING UP AND TALKING TO YOU ABOUT HERE IN A MINUTE. WE ALSO HAVE SCHEDULED A $5 MILLION BOND SALE REVENUE BOND SALE FOR MUNICIPAL DRAINAGE.

IT'S JUST A SMALL ONE.

WE ARE WAITING FOR THE STREAM BANK EROSION STUDY TO COME BACK IN.

WE PROBABLY ARE LOOKING AT A RATE INCREASE ON MUNICIPAL DRAINAGE NEXT YEAR AND A SIZABLE BOND ISSUANCE ON THAT.

SO ALSO WE DO HAVE CASH FUNDING TOTALING $32 MILLION INCLUDED FOR OUR CAPITAL MAINTENANCE FUNDS.

SO NOW I WILL CALL UP WHO IS FIRST ON THE AGENDA.

THEY'RE GOING TO GO OVER ALL THE PROJECTS WITH YOU, MR. SMITH. YES. THANK YOU AND GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS RON SMITH.

THIS WAS ALL OF KAREN'S SLIDES RIGHT HERE THAT WILL QUICKLY SPEED THROUGH TO GET TO THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES FOR PARKS AND RECREATION.

HERE WE GO, AGAIN RON SMITH, YOUR PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.

GLAD TO BE HERE TONIGHT.

THE PARKS AND RECREATION CIP IS FUNDED OUT OF FIVE CATEGORIES.

THEY'RE LISTED THERE ON THE SLIDE.

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I THINK THERE'S A TOTAL OF 85 THAT PARKS AND RECREATION HAS AS PART OF ITS CIP BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 24-25.

THIS TOTAL IS $78 MILLION OF THOSE CATEGORIES, SUMMED TOGETHER.

IN THE RECREATION CENTERS CATEGORY, WE ONLY HAVE ONE PROJECT, IT IS THE RENOVATION OF THE TOM MUEHLENBECK RECREATION CENTER.

THAT PROJECT IS SCHEDULED TO GET UNDERWAY MID-FEBRUARY OF 2025.

FOR PARKS IMPROVEMENTS, I'VE JUST GOT A COUPLE THAT I WANTED TO MENTION.

THIS IS NOT ALL OF THEM THAT YOU'RE SEEING THERE.

AGAIN, I WOULD ASK YOU TO REFER TO THE MEMO THAT'S IN YOUR PACKET, BOB WOODRUFF, NORTH CORE RENOVATION, WHICH IS A $4.9 MILLION PROJECT, A NEW BATHROOM, NEW PLAY PIT, ALL OF THOSE RENOVATIONS AT BOB WOODRUFF, ONE OF OUR BIGGEST AND MOST POPULAR PARKS.

ALSO, A NEW RESTROOM FOR THE SOUTH SIDE OF BOB WOODRUFF PARK WILL BE CONSTRUCTED.

CHISHOLM TRAIL AT SPRING CREEK PARKWAY, SUSCEPTIBLE TO FLOODING WHEN WE HAVE BIG RAIN EVENTS, WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THAT.

ENFIELD PARK THAT CAME TO COUNCIL JUST A LITTLE WHILE AGO.

NEW RESTROOMS AND NEW LIGHTING FOR THOSE EIGHT BALL FIELDS AT ENFIELD PARK.

THE PARK CAPITAL MAINTENANCE FUND, PARKS AND RECREATION HAS $6.4 MILLION IDENTIFIED FOR THAT.

THIS IS HOW WE TROUBLESHOOT AND ADDRESS A LOT OF ISSUES IN OUR PARKS INVENTORY, INCLUDING ATHLETIC FIELDS, IRRIGATION, RENOVATIONS, SWIMMING POOL EQUIPMENT, RECREATION CENTER NEEDS PARK RENOVATIONS.

AND THIS IS WHERE WE ALSO FUND A LOT OF THE MASTER PLANNING WORK THAT HAPPENS BEFORE A PARK IS RENOVATED.

COMES OUT OF THIS FUND AS WELL.

THE PARK FEE.

THIS IS SPECIFIC TO DIFFERENT REGIONS IN THE CITY ACCORDING TO RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

AND WE'VE IDENTIFIED PROJECTS IN THREE AREAS FOR NEXT YEAR'S FISCAL YEAR.

AND THE MUNICIPAL DRAINAGE FUND.

WE'VE IDENTIFIED $10 MILLION IN PROJECTS HERE, INCLUDING $1.3 MILLION FOR ARBOR HILLS AND AN EROSION CONTROL PROJECT, SEDIMENT REMOVAL AT BIG LAKE PARK, AND ALSO SOME EROSION CONTROL AT PECAN HOLLOW GOLF COURSE.

AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PARKS AND RECREATION CIP? AND IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS AGAIN, REFER TO THE MEMO THAT I'VE PROVIDED AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO CALEB THORNHILL IN ENGINEERING IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS.

I THINK SHELBY HAS A QUESTION.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU, DR.

SMITH. THIS MIGHT ACTUALLY BE A QUESTION FOR MARK OR CALEB, BUT REGARDING THE MUNICIPAL DRAINAGE WERE HOW IS THAT FACTORING IN THE POTENTIAL COSTS FOR EROSION CONTROL CITYWIDE, PER SOME OF OUR PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS.

AND I KNOW WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A PHILOSOPHICAL DISCUSSION ABOUT COVERING COST FOR EROSION CONTROL IN THE FUTURE.

SO WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN TO THAT.

WE'VE ACTUALLY COMPLETED THE THREE YEAR WALK HAS BEEN COMPLETED BY THE CONSULTANTS.

SO THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF WORKING THROUGH THE PLAN AND CALEB CAN GIVE AN ETA ON THAT.

BUT ONCE WE HAVE THAT AND UNDERSTAND THE CONDITIONAL ASSESSMENT, WE'LL BE BRINGING BACK A BIGGER DISCUSSION FOR COUNCIL TO HAVE A LARGE DISCUSSION AND PROBABLY A COSTLY DISCUSSION TO SAY, WHAT DOES PARTICIPATION NEED TO LOOK LIKE FOR THE CITY? WHAT ARE THE PRIORITIES AND THAT WILL BE ASSESSED.

THAT WILL BE PART OF THE DATA THAT'S ACTUALLY PROVIDED THROUGH THEIR ASSESSMENT TO BE ABLE TO GIVE Y'ALL.

OKAY. DO WE HAVE AN ETA ON THAT.

AND DO WE EXPECT THAT TO BE ROLLED INTO LIKE THIS BUDGET CYCLE OR TONIGHT.

NO BUT YEAH FROM AN ETA STANDPOINT, LIKE MARK MENTIONED, THEY HAVE WALKED ALL 120 MILES, WHICH IS ACTUALLY A SEASON AHEAD.

THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO FINISH THE LAST THIRD ESSENTIALLY THIS FALL.

THEY'VE ALREADY FINISHED. SO THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF PUTTING THE DATA TOGETHER, PUTTING THE SHEETS TOGETHER FOR EACH LOCATION, PUTTING TOGETHER COST ESTIMATES, AND THEN THEY WILL PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION.

THERE'LL BE SOME BACK AND FORTH AS FAR AS QA/QC.

SO THE HOPE IS SOMETIME SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER NOVEMBER TIME FRAME.

WE'LL HAVE THAT DATA IN A PRESENTABLE FORM.

OBVIOUSLY DISCUSS THAT WITH KAREN.

BUT PRESENT TO YOU GUYS WHAT THE STUDY RESULTS ARE.

BUT COUNCILMAN I'D ALSO ADD THAT IF WE GET THAT INFORMATION IN SAY IT'S OCTOBER OR NOVEMBER, IF IF THE COST IS SUCH THAT IT REQUIRES A MID-YEAR ADJUSTMENT TO RATES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN CONSIDER AT THAT TIME AND OBVIOUSLY BRING BACK TO Y'ALL, IF THAT'S WHAT MAKES SENSE FOR US TO GET GOING ON THAT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YEAH.

I'M GOOD. SORRY. DIDN'T MEAN FOR EVERYBODY ELSE TO STEAL YOUR THUNDER, DR.

SMITH. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. CALEB. YEAH.

I NEEDED MORE CAMERA TIME TONIGHT.

ALL RIGHT. CALEB THORNHILL, DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING.

SO I'M GOING TO TALK THROUGH THE CIP OVERVIEW FOR ENGINEERING, COMBINED CIP AND TRANSPORTATION, AND THEN ACTUALLY ENGINEERING FACILITIES WILL FOLLOW THIS.

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SMITH'S. THERE'S A MEMO IN YOUR PACKET THAT GOES THROUGH MORE DETAIL OF THE ACTUAL PROJECTS, BUT I'LL GIVE A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW.

AS WE TALKED ABOUT PROJECT TYPES, STREETS, IMPROVEMENTS, TRANSPORTATION, WE LUMPED TOGETHER MUNICIPAL DRAINAGE, WATER AND SEWER.

BUT YOU CAN SEE THE TOTAL FUNDING OF $112 MILLION THERE.

JUST FOR EACH OF THESE TYPES INCLUDES STREETS, REHABILITATION, DRAINAGE, EROSION CONTROL.

LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS WAS JUST DISCUSSING.

WATER AND SEWER ARE VERY SIMILAR.

IT'S WATER CAPACITY.

IT'S MAINTENANCE FOR THOSE TWO.

FROM A BREAKDOWN YOU CAN SEE STREETS IS THE LARGER AMOUNT $62 MILLION.

BUT AS KAREN WAS ALLUDING TO EARLIER, THE SEWER IS $23 MILLION, WHICH IS A BIG PROJECT OR A BIG NUMBER FOR US.

YOU CAN SEE THERE'S NINE PROJECTS SCHEDULED FOR NEXT YEAR.

AND THAT'S A THEY ARE ALL LARGE SEWER REPLACEMENTS.

DRAINAGE IS $12.8 AND THE WATER IS $4.6.

THE WATER IS GOING TO BE OUR TYPICAL NEIGHBORHOOD REHAB TYPE PROJECTS REPLACING CAST IRON MAINTENANCE LOCATIONS.

FUNDING SOURCE.

WE'VE GOT $56 FOR BOND.

AND THEN AND THIS IS JUST FOR STREETS A SMALL AMOUNT FOR COLLIN COUNTY AND A SMALL AMOUNT FROM THE REGIONAL TOLL REVENUE.

THESE ARE AGREEMENTS THAT ESSENTIALLY YOU CAN SEE THERE THE 2007 COLLIN COUNTY BONDS THAT WERE STILL EXPIRING.

THE LEGACY AND PARKER ARE ACTUALLY GETTING CLOSE.

SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

AND THEN THEY BOTH SHARE RTR FUNDS WITH THOSE AS WELL.

WE DID HAVE DART LAST YEAR, BUT THAT'S BEEN USED.

SO THERE'S LIMITED OUTSIDE FUNDING RIGHT NOW.

WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE SOME FEDERAL FUNDS, BUT I DID NOT INCLUDE THAT WITH THIS ONE.

SO I'M GOING TO GO INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ON STREET PROJECT TYPES.

YOU CAN SEE THERE I'VE BROKEN IT OUT IN CONSTRUCTION DESIGN INTERSECTION OR STREET CAPACITY IMPROVEMENTS MISCELLANEOUS, WHICH INCLUDES RETAINING OR SCREENING WALLS WHICH I'LL GET INTO AND THEN TRANSPORTATION.

THIS IS CALLED A HEAT MAP PROJECT MAP THAT WE'VE PUT TOGETHER.

THE GREEN WHAT YOU SEE THERE THOSE ARE PROJECTS THAT WERE COMPLETED LAST YEAR WHICH THE TEAM DID AN EXCELLENT JOB GETTING THAT MUCH WORK, BUT YOU CAN SEE THERE FROM THE RED THAT'S PROJECTS THAT ARE PROPOSED TO BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION FOR NEXT YEAR.

SO WE'VE TRIED TO SPREAD THE PAIN OUT THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

WE DIDN'T FOCUS ON ONE AREA, BUT WE DO HAVE A LOT OF PROJECTS ACTIVE.

YOU CAN SEE FROM THE FIRST SLIDE WE HAVE 109 ACTIVE PROJECTS.

DESIGN. THERE'S A LIST OF SOME PROJECTS WE'LL HAVE UNDER DESIGN.

YOU SEE THE PICTURE, THAT'S G AVENUE.

SO I WOULD SAY THAT'S RIGHT DOWNTOWN.

BUT WE'RE ACTUALLY NOT DOWNTOWN TONIGHT.

BUT THAT'S BETWEEN 14TH AND 15TH, THE G AVENUE, THAT DOES INCLUDE A WATERLINE REPLACEMENT AS WELL.

AND ANOTHER SLIDE, THE GREEN IS PROJECTS THAT WE FINISHED DESIGN LAST YEAR.

SO THOSE WILL BE MOVING TO CONSTRUCTION.

RED IS WHAT WE ANTICIPATE UNDER DESIGN FOR THIS COMING FISCAL YEAR.

AND IF I'M GOING TOO FAST, YOU GUYS INTERRUPT ME, PLEASE.

INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, BUT THERE'S REALLY TWO MAIN REASONS WE DO AN INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT, THE SAFETY, OBVIOUSLY, THE BIGGEST COMPONENT IN CONGESTION.

THERE ARE ANCILLARY IMPROVEMENTS.

PEDESTRIAN ADA IS ALSO INCLUDED IF WE'RE AT THOSE LOCATIONS.

AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS IF WE DO GO TO A LOCATION, WE TAKE CARE OF EVERYTHING SO THAT WE'RE NOT COMING BACK AND ADDING ANOTHER LANE OR ADDING ANOTHER TURN LANE, WE TRY TO KNOCK THEM ALL OUT, THE PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS A LOT OF OUR LOCATIONS HAVE OLD, OUTDATED PEDESTRIAN SIGNALS, AND SO WE'RE UPDATING THOSE AS WELL.

YOU CAN SEE THERE WE FINISHED 17 LAST YEAR, BUT WE HAVE 25 THAT WILL BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION FOR THIS UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR.

AND THERE'S A MAP.

CAN WE SPREAD THE PAIN EVENLY AND EVERYWHERE.

THE RED IS WHAT WILL BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION NEXT YEAR.

MISCELLANEOUS, I TOUCHED ON A MINUTE AGO.

THE BIG PROJECT OR THE BIG ITEM IN HERE IS USUALLY SCREENING WALLS.

AND I'LL GET TO THAT IN THE NEXT SLIDE, WHICH DOES INCLUDE BRIDGE INSPECTION AND REPAIR.

WE RECEIVE REPORTS EVERY TWO YEARS FROM TXDOT ON OUR BRIDGES AND CULVERTS.

AND SO THOSE ARE INCLUDED WITH THERE.

AND THEN SIDEWALK IS ANOTHER ONE.

ANY GAPS THAT WE HAVE OR REPAIR THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE THAT EXCEEDS PUBLIC WORKS, STREET LIGHTING AND THEN SOME OTHER THINGS AS WELL.

SO I MENTIONED SCREENING WALLS.

I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU SOME CONTEXT.

CITY OF PLANO OWNS OR MAINTAINS 77 MILES OF SCREENING WALLS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

AND THAT COST IS ABOUT $800 TO $1,000.

OBVIOUSLY, IT DEPENDS ON THE PROJECT.

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THE MAJORITY OF THEM DO REPLACE THE SIDEWALK IF THE SIDEWALK IS ADJACENT TO IT.

OUR PROJECTS AVERAGE JUST UNDER A MILE A PIECE.

LAST YEAR WE FINISHED 14,000 LINEAR FEET.

SO JUST UNDER THREE MILES.

AND NEXT YEAR WE'VE GOT DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION FOR 22,000 LINEAR FEET.

YOU CAN SEE THERE FROM THE PICTURE IS A SCREENING WALL ALONG CUSTER ROAD, THIS WAS PRE CONSTRUCTION.

AND THE BIGGEST ISSUE THAT WE FIND WITH THESE IS THE FOUNDATIONS WERE PUT IN IMPROPERLY OR POORLY.

AND SO YOU CAN SEE SEGMENTS OF THE WALL MOVING BRICKS MOVING.

WE DO PARTNER WITH PUBLIC WORKS ON THESE.

BUT ONCE IT GETS TO THIS TYPE OF CONDITION IT'S NO LONGER DOING A PANEL REPLACEMENT.

AND SO YOU CAN SEE HERE FROM THE UPDATED PICTURE WE COME IN AND REPLACE THE SIDEWALK, UPDATE THE FOUNDATION, PUT A NEW PIERS AND HOPEFULLY A WALL THAT'S GOING TO LAST A LONG TIME. SO TRANSPORTATION WE DID TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT EARLIER.

AND BUT WE DO HAVE A LOT OF PROJECTS, THE TEAM IS VERY ACTIVE.

I WANTED TO FOCUS ON THE THIRD BULLET POINT, THE TRAFFIC CABINET CONTROLLER AND SYSTEM UPGRADES.

WE'VE BEEN IN HERE A COUPLE TIMES ALREADY.

A LOT OF THESE ARE BEING DEPLOYED, SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

AND THEN THE CCTV EXPANSION WAS ALSO THAT'S THE ONE THAT MAY HAVE SOME FEDERAL FUNDS.

THAT'S A PROJECT WHERE WE WILL FUND IT UP FRONT, AND THEN THERE'LL BE FEDERAL REIMBURSEMENT ONCE WE FINISH CONSTRUCTION.

SO MUNICIPAL DRAINAGE THAT YOU TOUCHED ON A LITTLE BIT, THE EROSION CONTROL, THE STREAMBANK STABILIZATION OR A STREAMBANK ASSESSMENT IS THE FIRST ONE ON THERE.

THAT ONE HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE WRAPPING UP THIS FALL.

WE HAVE NOT SEEN DATA YET, BUT THEY DID FINISH WALKING IT THIS SPRING.

AND THEN WE'VE GOT A FEW OTHER LOCATIONS THAT WE ARE GOING TO DO EROSION CONTROL PROJECTS.

THE PICTURE THERE, THAT'S ALONG 16TH STREET ALONG THE SPRING CREEK.

THAT'S WHERE WE PARTNER WITH OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT, WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS OF THE TRAIL AS WELL AS THE STREAMBANK STABILIZATION.

WATER IMPROVEMENTS.

AGAIN, THE MAJORITY OF THESE ARE REHAB.

I THINK EVERYBODY IS FAMILIAR WITH PARKER ROAD WATER REHAB.

WE ARE WRAPPING THAT UP AND JUST A FEW PUNCH LIST ITEMS. ALL LANES ARE OPEN, SO WE'RE EXCITED TO BE OUT OF THERE.

BUT YEAH, THE MAJORITY OF THESE ARE WATER LINE REHABS.

IT'S REPLACING CAST IRON.

IT'S REPLACING PIPES THAT ARE 50 OR 60 YEARS OLD.

WE'VE GOT ALMOST 1500 MILES OF WATER LINE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

WE FINISHED 80,000 LAST YEAR, BUT WE'VE GOT 160 PLANNED IN DESIGN OR CONSTRUCTION.

EXCUSE ME, THIS UPCOMING YEAR.

SEWER I MENTIONED.

HERE'S A LIST OF OUR PROJECTS.

ALL OF THESE ARE LARGE MAIN PROJECTS.

AND THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOT US HAVING LOTS OF CONVERSATIONS WITH KAREN ABOUT THE COST OF THESE.

THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY CAPACITY OR ADDING CAPACITY.

THESE ARE JUST CONDITIONS OR ALREADY EXPERIENCING SURCHARGING AND GOING IN AND REPLACING THEM BASED ON THE CONDITION OR THE MAINTENANCE.

SO WE DO HAVE A LOT OF PROJECTS IN SEWER, I BELIEVE.

CALEB, I WANT TO ADD SOMETHING REAL QUICK.

THE ON THESE BIG PROJECTS, THIS IS JUST THE ONE YEAR COST TO GET IT UP AND RUNNING.

THEY WILL BE OVER THE NEXT 2 OR 3 YEARS THAT SPRING CREEK INTERCEPTOR, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT'S GOING TO COST $40 MILLION.

IT'S GOT THREE PHASES TO IT.

SO THAT'S WHY WE ARE PUTTING FORTH $80 MILLION.

WE MIGHT NOT NEED THAT WHOLE $80 MILLION, BUT ALL THESE ADD UP TO $80 MILLION.

SO I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT IN.

VERY GOOD. THAT'S IT.

WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THE NICEST SEWERS IN NORTH TEXAS.

THANK YOU. THANKS, CALEB.

APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.

PAUL KUNZE, FACILITIES DIVISION MANAGER OF THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.

SO FACILITIES.

THE MOST EXCITING PART OF THE NIGHT.

I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN WAITING FOR IT, EVEN IF YOU DON'T LIKE FACILITIES, I MEAN, REALLY.

ALL RIGHT, WE GOT 61 PROJECTS THIS YEAR, JUST UNDER $20 MILLION, WHICH REPRESENTS 6% OF THE OVERALL CIP LOAD.

BROKEN DOWN TO $13.75 MILLION FOR BOND PROJECTS AND $6.25 ROUGHLY FOR CAPITAL MAINTENANCE PROJECTS.

WE'VE GOT 12 PROJECTS OVERALL ON THE BOND SIDE, AND NOTABLY WE'VE GOT STATION FIVE.

WE'RE GOING TO BE BUILDING THE FUEL STATION THIS YEAR.

I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU TWO PARKS PROJECTS THAT AREN'T IN THESE NUMBERS, BUT WERE IN THE NUMBERS DR.

SMITH SHOWED YOU.

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THERE'S A BUNCH OF MISCELLANEOUS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.

WE'RE AT THE TAIL END OF THE 21 BOND.

WE HAVE STUFF LIKE NEW WINDOWS FOR HAGGARD LIBRARY, PARKING LOT, LAYOVER FOR SCHIMMELPFENNIG LIBRARY, STUFF LIKE THAT.

AND THEN ON THE CAPITAL MAINTENANCE SIDE, WE HAVE 49 PROJECTS.

AND GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE BREAKDOWN A COUPLE SLIDES.

FIRE STATION FIVE I THINK MOST OF EVERYBODY ON THIS BOARD WAS HERE WHEN WE BROUGHT IT HERE FOR, FOR AWARD TO OUR, YOU KNOW, FOR FOR CONSTRUCTION.

ABOUT 50% IN NOW IT'S GOING WELL THIS WEEK WE'RE FLYING IN STRUCTURAL STEEL.

SO THAT'S A REAL BIG MONUMENT.

THIS PROJECT AGAIN WAS TO ADD CAPACITY IN THE STATION, HELP FIRE CHANGE THE MISSION.

THERE HAD NEVER BEEN A MED UNIT THERE.

THEY NEEDED THE EXTRA BEDS FOR MED UNIT.

THAT CHANGED.

AND THIS ALSO ALLOWS US TO PUT IN OUR SECOND CERTIFIED STORM SHELTER.

TOM UHLENBECK REC CENTER.

IT WAS SLATED FOR AN OVERALL REFRESH OF ALL THE FINISHES THROUGHOUT.

THERE'S SOME AQUATIC STUFF WE WANTED TO DO.

THE ROOF IS READY TO BE REPLACED.

THE HVAC WAS READY TO BE REPLACED.

BASICALLY, THIS FACILITY IS ABOUT 15 YEARS OLD AND IT NEEDED A LOT OF THINGS.

THERE'S NO SQUARE FOOTAGE BEING ADDED.

WE'RE JUST MAKING IT BETTER.

HIGH POINT FUEL STATION BIG POINT OF THIS IS MORE STRATEGIC ADVANTAGE WHEN WE HAVE THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, GRID GRID LOSS LIKE WINTER STORM URI. IT ALSO REALLY DECREASES THE AMOUNT OF COST OF OUR FUEL.

IF WE CAN CONVINCE ALL OUR VEHICLES TO GO THROUGH THROUGH IT.

AND THEN THE REALLY ADDED BONUS IS, IS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MUCH BETTER DATA RETRIEVAL FROM ALL OF OUR CITY VEHICLES.

THIS SYSTEM NOT ONLY MEETS UP WITH THE VEHICLE AND KNOWS IT WILL ONLY FILL A CITY VEHICLE, OR A CITY OWNED RED GAS CAN, ALSO HAVE TO SWIPE YOUR CITY ID WHEN IT DOES THAT TOO.

IT ALSO GRABS TELEMETRY FROM THE VEHICLE, SO NOW FLEET KNOWS EXACTLY WHERE WHERE THAT VEHICLE'S MILEAGE IS ALL THOSE THINGS, IF THERE'S TROUBLE ALERTS THEY GET TRANSMITTED THAT.

AND THEN OAK POINT PARKS MAINTENANCE CORNER OF LOS RIOS AND PARKER.

IT'S REALLY GOING TO INCREASE THE CAPACITY ON THE EAST SIDE TO HELP IT GROW WITH THE NEEDS IN ALL THE PARKS.

ON THAT SIDE SITS RIGHT ON OAK POINT PARK.

SO IT'S GOING TO REALLY HELP THEM KEEP THAT BIG PARK UP.

AND WE'VE ALSO INCREASED THE ABILITY TO DO TRAINING THERE AND SOME OTHER CAPACITIES OF IT.

WE ARE ADDING A TRAILHEAD IMPROVEMENT RIGHT ON THE CORNER TO KIND OF HELP EVERYBODY OUT.

IT'S GOING TO HAVE SOME, YOU KNOW, ABILITY TO SERVICE THEIR BIKES, PLUS USE RESTROOMS THERE BEFORE THEY GO OUT ON THE TRAILS.

AND THEN ON THE CAPITAL MAINTENANCE FUND, WE GOT $6.2 MILLION OF PROJECTS.

OF THE $1.9 OF SAFETY AND SECURITY, THAT'S OVER 13 PROJECTS.

WE HAVE 25 PROJECTS THAT MAKE UP THE 3.3 PRESERVATION OF INFRASTRUCTURE NINE PROJECTS FOR SUPPORTING THE CITY MISSION.

THAT'S IF OTHER DEPARTMENTS NEED US TO CHANGE THEIR SUITE AROUND TO SUPPORT THE BODIES THEY HAVE, OR SOMETHING THEY DID INTERNALLY THAT THEY NEED SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO.

AND THEN JUST TWO PROJECTS OF SUSTAINABILITY.

THAT'S THE MAINTENANCE OF OUR SOLAR ARRAYS.

PLUS WE CARRY A FEE TO HIRE ENGINEERS TO DO ANY ENERGY ASSESSMENTS WE MIGHT HAVE.

AND THAT'S FACILITIES.

ALL RIGHT. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS ANTHONY.

THANK YOU MAYOR. SO PAUL, I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS A QUESTION FOR YOU, BUT I THINK IT'S A FACILITIES THING.

THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION ABOUT A CHICKEN COOP AT THE AT THE ANIMAL SHELTER.

I KNOW THAT'S THAT'S IN THE MIDST OF ALL OF THESE CIP PROJECTS.

THAT'S I'M SURE THE MAIN ONE YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT.

BUT IS THAT A QUESTION FOR YOU OR-- MY FOLKS ARE BUILDING THAT.

YES. OKAY. FANTASTIC.

SO FIRST OF ALL, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THOSE OF US WHO WERE ON THE COUNCIL WHEN WE LEGALIZED BACKYARD HENS UNDERSTOOD THAT A CHICKEN COOP AT THE ANIMAL SHELTER WAS PART OF WHAT WAS GOING TO BE NECESSARY, BECAUSE ANY ANIMALS THAT ARE IN THE CITY, SOME WILL BECOME LOOSE AND BE COLLECTED AND END UP AT THE ANIMAL SHELTER. AND SO SO I DON'T QUESTION THE NEED FOR A COOP.

WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO HAVE THAT.

BUT THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT I'VE SEEN, YOU KNOW, THE $50,000 NUMBER.

THEN I SAW AN EMAIL TODAY THAT HAD A $62,600 NUMBER.

DO YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE NUMBER IS? AND IF MOST OF THAT IS DESIGN FEES? I WOULD HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THE DESIGN NUMBER.

BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT SOMETIMES WE'RE OUR OWN WORST ENEMY.

WE HAVE TO COMPLY WITH ALL OF OUR OWN NEEDS, SO WE HAVE TO GET A FULLY BLOWN ENGINEERED, PREVENT THE SITE PLAN TO BE ABLE TO SHOW THE CHICKEN COOP AS AN IMPROVEMENT.

SO AND THANK YOU, PAUL.

AND BY THE WAY, I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT'S SOMETHING THAT FACILITIES IS CAUSING

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THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE APPROVED AND PUT IN PLACE MEAN THAT YOU HAVE TO ENGAGE ENGINEERS OR ARCHITECTS OR SOMETHING ON A CHICKEN COOP.

AND SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, TO COUNCIL MEMBER PRINCE'S POINT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, DO WE NEED THIS $200,000 STUDY RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN PENNY PINCHING MODE.

I MEAN, THERE ARE ORGANIC FARMERS OUT THERE, I ASSUME, WHO, YOU KNOW ARE TREATING THEIR HENS VERY WELL.

YOU KNOW, WHO GET THE ORGANIC STAMP AT THE GROCERY STORE.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE ALL FEEL GOOD ABOUT BUYING THOSE EGGS BECAUSE THE CHICKENS WERE TREATED HUMANELY.

AND I'M ALL FOR THE HUMANE TREATMENT OF ALL ANIMALS, INCLUDING CHICKENS.

BUT AND I SEE COUNCIL MEMBER PRINCE IS CRACKING UP OVER THERE.

BUT BUT IN ALL SERIOUSNESS.

SO WE HAVE TO TREAT CHICKENS HUMANELY.

BUT TO YOUR POINT ABOUT BEING OUR OWN WORST ENEMY IN PENNY PINCHING MODE, WE REALLY NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT OUR REQUIREMENTS.

THERE SHOULD NOT BE ENGINEERS ENGAGED ON A CHICKEN COOP, IN MY PERSONAL OPINION, AND THERE SHOULD NOT BE ARCHITECTURAL DRAWINGS.

EXACTLY. IT COULD BE AN EAGLE PROJECT.

COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH SAID THAT'S WHAT THE BOY SCOUTS ARE FOR SO.

SO ONE OF THE TRIGGERS TO UNDERSTAND, WE WOULD ALL LOVE TO BUY A CHICKEN WIRE AND BUILD THE CHICKEN WIRE PLYWOOD COOP.

RIGHT? BUT WE ARE TREATING THE CHICKENS NICELY AND THE CHICKENS NEED HEAT IN THE WINTER.

WHAT GIVES HEAT, ELECTRICITY CODE KICKS IN RIGHT THERE.

I GOT YOU AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S THE CODE THAT WE PASSED.

I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR, PAUL.

YOU'RE DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB. AND YOU'RE DOING WHAT THE RULES THAT WE HAVE ENACTED ARE REQUIRING YOU TO DO.

I'M SAYING, I THINK AS PART OF THIS BUDGET PROCESS, WE MAY NEED TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THE RULES THAT WE'VE ENACTED BECAUSE THERE ARE VERY HUMANELY TREATED CHICKENS.

AND I BET THIS IS SHOWING UP IN OTHER PLACES IN THE BUDGET WHERE WE HAVEN'T CAUGHT IT, WHERE THINGS COULD BE DONE REALLY WELL AT A HIGH STANDARD OF EXCELLENCE WITHOUT SOME OF THE RED TAPE THAT WE AS A COUNCIL MAY HAVE CREATED, AND BE DONE MORE CHEAPLY, AND THAT MONEY COULD BE PASSED ALONG TO OUR EMPLOYEES.

I MEAN, I KNOW THIS COULDN'T BECAUSE IT'S IN THE CIP, IT'S DEBT FUNDED, YOU KNOW, AND THAT CAN'T BE USED FOR O&M.

BUT I JUST I WOULD I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE, THE REGULATIONS THAT ARE CAUSING THIS TO BE A 50 OR $60,000 CHICKEN COOP.

AND I'D LIKE TO TAKE A SECOND LOOK AT THOSE AS A COUNCIL AND MAYBE REPEAL SOME OF THEM, BECAUSE I AND I SUSPECT THERE ARE OTHER IMPACTS THROUGHOUT THE BUDGET WHERE MAYBE IF WE GOT OUT OF THE WAY, A LITTLE BIT OF BEING OVER REGULATORY, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SAVE SOME MONEY AND PASS IT ALONG TO OUR EXCELLENT EMPLOYEES.

AND COUNCILMAN WE'LL BE HAPPY TO BRING YOU BACK A REPORT ON THE REGULATIONS HELPING CAUSE SOME OF THOSE THOSE ELEMENTS.

I THINK THE CHALLENGE BECOMES THE BROADER APPLICABILITY OF A PUBLIC POLICY OF SAYING THAT WE'RE NO LONGER GOING TO APPLY THAT TO CITY PROJECTS VERSUS OTHER PROJECTS BECOMES PART OF THE CHALLENGE. SO WE'LL BE HAPPY TO BRING YOU BACK A REPORT AND WE'LL SEE WHERE WE GO FROM THERE.

BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND AS WELL.

AND THANK YOU FOR KEEPING THAT IN MIND.

I WOULD JUST LOVE TO SEE THE REGULATIONS AND IF THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE CAN MORE NARROWLY TAILOR THEM TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING THOSE KINDS OF STEPS WHEN IT'S MEANINGFUL, WHEN IT PROTECTS PUBLIC SAFETY, OR WHEN IT WHEN IT MAKES SURE THAT WE HAVE QUALITY FACILITIES.

BUT, YOU KNOW, ALLOWS US TO BUILD A CHICKEN COOP THE SAME WAY AN ORGANIC FARMER WOULD.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

SO I WANT TO MAKE ONE MORE POINT ABOUT THE CHICKEN COOP.

I NEED TO CHECK THIS.

I'M 95% SURE IT WAS FUNDED BY DONATION MONEY.

NOT. OH, GOTCHA.

OKAY, SO I SAW I SAW AN EMAIL TODAY THAT SAID I MAY HAVE MISINTERPRETED IT.

I THOUGHT IT SAID IT WAS ORIGINALLY FUNDED ALL BUT $7,500 FROM DONATION MONEY.

BUT THEN I TOOK ORIGINALLY TO MEAN THAT IT NO LONGER IS.

BUT I MAY BE MISTAKEN ANYWAY, THE POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE IS THAT YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB.

AND IF WE'RE IN YOUR WAY, THE CHICKENS LOVE ME.

WHAT CAN I SAY? ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING. I'M ABBY OWENS, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS.

NICE TO SEE Y'ALL AGAIN.

SO FOR PUBLIC WORKS, WE'VE GOT ABOUT 81 PROJECTS IS WHAT'S IN THE CIP.

AND THAT'S BETWEEN STREET IMPROVEMENTS AND ALSO WATER AND WASTEWATER.

ABOUT $57 MILLION IS THROUGH BOND FUNDING.

AND THEN CAPITAL MAINTENANCE FUND IS FOR JUST UNDER $30 MILLION.

SO OUR TOTAL STREET FUNDING IS JUST UNDER $87 MILLION.

$34 ALMOST $35 MILLION OF THAT IS FOR ARTERIAL CONCRETE REPAIR AND OVERLAY.

WE AIM TO ACHIEVE ABOUT TEN MILES A YEAR.

WE ARE RUNNING INTO SOME CHALLENGES WITH NUMBER OF CONTRACTORS THAT CAN DO THIS, AND ALSO HAVING ROADS READY TO GO.

SOMETIMES WE'RE DELAYED BECAUSE OF WATER LINE PROJECTS OR INTERSECTIONS OR EVEN PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT AS WELL.

SO BUT THAT'S WHAT OUR PLAN IS FOR NEXT YEAR.

THESE ARE OUR TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED LOCATIONS FOR OVERLAY.

THE GREEN ONES IS WHAT WILL BE COMPLETED THIS YEAR.

AS MANY OF Y'ALL HAVE SEEN OVER ON LOS RIOS.

THE PURPLE ARE WHAT WE ARE PLANNING TO HAVE OVERLAID NEXT YEAR, AND THEN WE WILL ALSO HAVE THE ARTERIAL REPAIRS THAT ARE GOING ON ON THE ONES IN ORANGE,

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FOR RESIDENTIAL STREET AND ALLEY REHAB.

THIS IS ABOUT $22 MILLION OF THE BOND FUNDING, AND THIS IS WHERE WE WILL DO ALL OF THE ALLEYS AND STREETS AND SIDEWALKS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THESE ARE THE ZONES THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY GOING ON THIS YEAR THAT WILL CONTINUE INTO NEXT YEAR.

AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL ONES THAT WE'LL BE ADDING, WHICH ARE THE ONES IN RED.

WE TRY TO GET TO OUR RESIDENTIAL ZONES ABOUT EVERY 20 TO 25 YEARS, AND WE ARE COMING UP ON THAT 25 YEAR MARK AND HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SEE THAT.

THAT'S RIGHT AROUND THE RIGHT MARK.

IT REALLY JUST KIND OF DEPENDS ON THE QUANTITY OF SIDEWALKS AND RAMPS THAT ARE THERE AND THE STREET REPAIRS NEEDED, BUT THIS IS WHERE WE ARE PLANNING TO HEAD FOR NEXT YEAR.

AND THEN FOR OUR CMF FUNDING, WE HAVE ABOUT $30 MILLION THAT IS ALLOCATED FOR THE MINOR REPAIRS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO WE CALL THESE REQUIREMENTS CONTRACTS.

THIS IS WHERE WE'LL HIRE CONTRACTORS THAT WILL KIND OF JUMP AROUND.

WE WORK ON CLOSING OUT BACKLOGS OF SIDEWALK REQUESTS.

IF THERE'S A ALLEY OR A STREET THAT IT'S TOO LARGE OF A REPAIR FOR OUR IN-HOUSE CREWS TO DO, THAT'S WHEN WE WOULD HAVE A CONTRACTOR MANAGE THAT.

WE ALSO USE THE FUNDING FOR OUR JOINT AND UNDER JOINT CEILING AND UNDER CEILING.

AND THAT IS, AGAIN, TO BRING PAVEMENT UP A LITTLE BIT IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE MORE EVEN TO DRIVE ACROSS.

BUT THEN THE JOINT CEILING IS TO PREVENT WATER FROM GETTING INTO THE CRACKS.

AND THEN WE ALSO USE THIS FUNDING FOR SCREENING WALL RECONSTRUCTION.

SO DIFFERENT FROM WHAT ENGINEERING DOES THIS IS GOING TO BE, I'D SAY THAT SCREENING WALLS APPEAR TO HAVE TARGETS ON THEM FOR VEHICLES.

AND SO THAT IS WHEN WE WILL GO OUT AND FIX THOSE.

BUT THEN WE ALSO HAVE SMALLER PANEL REPLACEMENTS WHERE THE FOUNDATIONS IN GOOD QUALITY, WE JUST NEED TO GO AND ACTUALLY REPAIR THE SCREENING WALL PANELS THEMSELVES.

FOR PART OF OUR OTHER CMF FUNDING WE USE ON OUR TRAFFIC ELEMENTS.

AND SO THAT COULD BE THE MARKINGS AND BUTTONS THAT GO DOWN FOR SAFETY FOR DRIVING, BUT THEN ALSO OUR STREET LIGHTING.

THERE ARE SOME LIGHTS WITHIN THE CITY THAT WE DO OWN THAT ARE LIT, NOT THE TRAFFIC SIGNALIZED LIGHTS, BUT THE ACTUAL STREET LIGHTS, AND THEN SOME MINOR GUARDRAIL AND TRAFFIC SIGN REPLACEMENT.

FOR WATER, WE HAVE JUST OVER $8 MILLION ALLOCATED AND WE USE THIS IN A VARIETY OF WAYS.

WE THIS IS NOT BOND FUNDED FOR OUR SIDE OF IT, AS KAREN HAD MENTIONED FOR SEWER.

BUT FOR INSTANCE, ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, WE HAD A MAJOR WATER LINE REPAIR THAT HAD TO BE DONE EARLIER THIS YEAR.

IT WAS A 24 INCH LINE.

IT WAS DEEPER THAN OUR IN-HOUSE CREWS CAN, BUT ALSO THERE WAS COMPLICATIONS WITH SOME STORM DRAINS AND THINGS AROUND.

SO WE USED THIS FUNDING TO HIRE A CONTRACTOR TO MAKE THAT EMERGENCY REPAIR.

BUT THEN ON OUR PROACTIVE SIDE, WE'RE DOING PROACTIVE ASSESSMENT AND REHAB OF OUR PARK ELEVATED STORAGE TANK.

ALSO, WE'RE DOING A MASTER PLAN FOR OUR RIDGEVIEW, WHICH IS OUR WORKHORSE PUMP STATION, AND THAT'S WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT WE'VE GOT ADEQUATE EQUIPMENT AND CAPACITY THERE.

ALSO, WE DO PROACTIVE WATER VALVE EXERCISING AND INVENTORY AND ALSO LEAK DETECTION.

AND WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT DOING INSIDE PIPE LEAK DETECTION.

I'M SORRY CONDITION ASSESSMENT OVER THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO.

AND THEN SEWER JUST UNDER $6 MILLION HERE.

AND THIS IS GOING TO BE FOR ANY OF OUR MINOR SEWER REPLACEMENTS.

SO WE'LL USE THIS FOR CIP, WHICH IS LIKE A LINING OF THE SEWER LINE TO REDUCE ANY INFLOW AND INFILTRATION AND THEN ALSO SEALING MANHOLES.

WE'VE HIRED A CONTRACTOR PREVIOUSLY TO DO LARGE DIAMETER INSPECTIONS OF OUR SEWER MAINS.

AND WE ALSO DO FLOW MONITORING TO IDENTIFY WHERE WE NEED TO SPEND FUNDING TO REDUCE I&I AND THAT'S MINE.

ANY QUESTIONS ON WATER SEWER ENGINEERING.

I MEAN, THE PUBLIC WORKS SIDE OF THINGS.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ABBY.

PERFECT. THANK YOU.

[COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST]

COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST.

THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING IS TO ALLOW UP TO THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER, WITH 30 TOTAL MINUTES ON ITEMS OF INTEREST OR CONCERN, AND NOT ON ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE CURRENT AGENDA.

THE COUNCIL MAY NOT DISCUSS THESE ITEMS, BUT MAY RESPOND WITH FACTUAL OR POLICY INFORMATION.

THE COUNCIL MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA.

AND WE DO HAVE TWO SPEAKERS TONIGHT.

HOLD ON HERE.

OKAY. HELLO, MR. CHAVEZ. YES.

OKAY, GO AHEAD AND TURN ON YOUR CAMERA, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE.

AND YOUR THREE MINUTES STARTS NOW.

YES. THANK YOU.

I'M LOOKING AT WHERE I CAN TURN ON MY CAMERA, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

I DO NOT SEE WHERE ON THIS VIEW OPTIONS.

I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

DOES IT MATTER IF I CAN TURN ON MY CAMERA OR NOT?

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WELL, THE ONLY THING I SEE RIGHT NOW IS MY MY MICROPHONE.

AND I DON'T SEE ANYTHING ELSE AS FAR AS AN OPTION.

I CAN MUTE MY MICROPHONE, BUT I CAN'T DO ANYTHING ELSE.

OKAY, BUT SURELY THERE THERE WOULD BE, LIKE, A CAMERA ICON NEXT TO MY MICROPHONE, WOULD THERE NOT? THERE'S TYPICALLY A START VIDEO ICON SOMEWHERE ON YOUR FORM.

YEAH. RECORDING START VIDEO.

BEAR WITH ME. I APOLOGIZE FOR THIS.

SO FEW OPTIONS.

OH, HERE. [INAUDIBLE] THERE WE GO.

HERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT, YOU ARE.

GO AHEAD. AND NOW, HERE WE GO.

CAN YOU GUYS SEE ME NOW? HEAR ME? YES. GO AHEAD.

OH. ALL RIGHT.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

WELL GOOD EVENING.

MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL AND FELLOW PLANO RESIDENTS.

AND BASICALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND DISCUSS MY CONCERN OR ACTUALLY MY INTEREST IN CREATING DEDICATED BARRIER BICYCLE LANES FOR THE CITY OF PLANO.

AND THIS MEETING IS QUITE SERENDIPITOUS BECAUSE IN THE EARLIER SESSION, YOU GUYS HAD YOUR LEGACY.

LET'S SEE HERE. YOU GUYS HAD YOUR OTHER ONE ABOUT YOUR EXECUTIVE SESSION AND THAT WAS DEALING ABOUT THE LEGACY DRIVE AND HEADQUARTERS DEVELOPMENT AND INITIATIVES TO MAKE THAT MORE PROFITABLE OR INCREASE THE USE OF THAT.

AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE PHYSICAL OR BASICALLY THE DEDICATED BARRIER BICYCLE LANES DOES IS IT CREATES THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONNECT PEOPLE.

AND I WOULD SAY THAT IT'S ONE OF THOSE WHERE IF YOU BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME AND IT'S AT A FROM WHAT I HAVE SEEN AND STUDIED FROM OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, IT'S NOT A VERY EXPENSIVE FIRST ENGAGEMENT.

THERE COULD BE A PILOT PROGRAM.

AND SO I WAS THINKING LET ME JUST PUT MY THOUGHT FOR THAT IS A PILOT PROGRAM INITIATIVE FROM CONNECTING THE NEIGHBORHOODS ON LEGACY COIT ALL THE WAY TO THE SHOPS OF LEGACY AND LEGACY WEST.

AND THAT WOULD BE LIKE TAKING ONE LANE PROVIDING THAT AS A BARRIER DEDICATED BICYCLE LANE WHERE YOU COULD CONNECT FAMILIES NOW AND, AND WORKERS TO THE, TO THAT DEVELOPMENT AND YOU KNOW I'M SURE THAT A LOT OF THE INDIVIDUAL BUSINESSES WOULD APPRECIATE A LOT OF THAT TRAFFIC.

THERE IS A, A LARGE ENTHUSIAST BICYCLING COMMUNITY HERE IN PLANO.

AND SO I THINK THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.

YOU KNOW, ALSO, EARLIER YOU GUYS WERE DISCUSSING ABOUT THE AGING COMMUNITY IN PLANO AND HOW TO BRING MORE PEOPLE IN.

DEFINITELY BY BICYCLES.

YOU WOULD PROVIDE THAT.

SO NOT ONLY THAT, BUT IT ALSO PROVIDES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE ECONOMICALLY, ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED TO JOIN IN THIS AS WELL.

SO I WOULD REALLY GREAT BE HAPPY IF YOU GUYS WERE ABLE TO EMPLOY SOMETHING LIKE THAT AS A PILOT PROGRAM.

THANK YOU.

THE NEXT SPEAKER IS BILL LYLE.

MR. LYLE, ARE YOU THERE? GO AHEAD. YOU'RE ON MUTE, SIR.

THERE WE GO. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? WE CAN HEAR YOU. GO AHEAD.

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I HAVE BEEN PAYING ATTENTION TO A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT ARE ON ION WAVE, WHICH IS THE WEBSITE THAT THE CITY USES TO SOLICIT BIDS ON DIFFERENT PROJECTS.

AND THERE'S TWO THAT I WANTED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION TONIGHT.

I'VE APPRECIATED MANY OF THE COMMENTS THAT Y'ALL HAVE MADE ABOUT LOOKING AT THINGS A LITTLE THROUGH A DIFFERENT LENS, WITH ESPECIALLY THE MONEY SITUATION WE'RE IN.

BUT ONE OF THEM IS THE CHICKEN COOP ANTHONY THAT YOU BROUGHT UP.

JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, STAFF, LET ME KNOW TODAY THAT WE SPENT $12,600 TO REVISE THE SITE PLAN AND TO HAVE A REGISTERED LICENSED ARCHITECT DESIGN A CHICKEN COOP.

AND THE ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE ON THE CITY SOLICITATION WEBSITE IS $50,000 TO CONSTRUCT THAT.

IT'S POSSIBLE THAT IT COMES IN LESS THAN THAT, BUT THAT'S THE ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE AT THIS TIME.

IF YOU GO TO TRACTOR SUPPLY, YOU CAN FIND A PRE MANUFACTURED CHICKEN COOPS THAT ARE REALLY NICE FOR AROUND $1,500.

TYPICALLY, HEAT IN ONE OF THESE COMES FROM LIKE A RED LAMP THAT YOU WOULD SEE IN A BATHROOM, LIKE A HEAT LAMP.

THAT'S WHAT TYPICALLY FARM ANIMALS USE TO STAY WARM AND THEY HUDDLE TOGETHER.

CURRENTLY THERE'S THREE CHICKENS IN THE CITY'S POSSESSION, AND THEY'RE IN DOG AND CAT KENNELS, WHICH SEEMS APPROPRIATE TO ME.

I MEAN, IF MY DOG GETS PICKED UP AND HE'S GOING TO GET IN A BOX, I THINK IT'S BIG ENOUGH FOR A CHICKEN OR EVEN THREE CHICKENS, MAYBE IN ONE BOX.

SO I THINK AS Y'ALL CAN FIGURE OUT, I THINK $62,000 FOR A CHICKEN COOP AND A REVISED SITE PLAN IS WAY BEYOND WHAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THIS EXPENSE.

SECONDLY, THERE'S A DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE DESIGNED FOR RUSSELL CREEK PARK IN THE NORTHERN CENTRAL PLANO AREA.

I WENT OUT TO VISIT THE PARK.

THERE'S ALREADY A VERY LARGE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE THERE.

THAT'S 650FT².

IT'S GOT THE CAPACITY TO HOLD 4 THE 6 OR 7 YARD TYPICAL BLUE DUMPSTER THAT YOU SEE AROUND, OR YOU COULD HAVE TWO LARGE TEN YARD DUMPSTERS IN THERE.

STAFF COMMENTED ON THIS TODAY VIA EMAIL WITH JACK CARR, AND THERE'S A [INAUDIBLE] BOX IN THERE.

WHICH IS ACTUALLY CONTRARY TO OUR ZONING ORDINANCE.

IF YOU LOOK AT ARTICLE 20 400.3- OR .

B, IT SAYS THAT ENCLOSURES FOR CONTAINERS MUST ONLY BE USED FOR PURPOSES RELATED TO SOLID WASTE PROGRAMS, AS AUTHORIZED BY THE CITY OF PLANO CODE OF ORDINANCES.

SO I THINK THE REASON THAT STAFF, OR ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO BUILD A SECOND DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE IS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT USING THE DUMPSTER CLOSURE THAT IS THERE TO ITS CAPACITY.

AND THEN LASTLY, I WOULD JUST SAY THAT ANOTHER STAFF COMMENT FROM STAFF WAS THAT THERE'S PEAK SEASONS WHERE THEY HOST A LOT OF TOURNAMENTS.

AND IT SEEMS TO ME THAT YOU COULD JUST INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT REPUBLIC THE TRASH DUMPSTER FOLKS, ACTUALLY.

THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, WE'RE ADJOURNED.

NO CHICKENS WERE HARMED IN THE FILMING OF THIS MEETING.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.