[PRELIMINARY OPEN MEETING] [00:00:03] I NOW DECLARE THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL IS CONVENED IN OPEN SESSION, THAT ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT WITH THE EXCEPTION. RECORDING IN PROGRESS. WITH THE EXCEPTION OF COUNCIL MEMBER HOLMER, COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS AND COUNCIL MEMBER RICCIARDELLI. THE COUNCIL WILL NOW RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION INTO WES HARDY ROOM TO HOLD A CLOSED EXECUTIVE MEETING PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF VERNON, TEXAS CODES ANNOTATED GOVERNMENT CODE, CHAPTER 551. THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AUTHORITY CONTAINED IN SECTION 551.071 TO CONSULT WITH THE ATTORNEY TO RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE AND DISCUSS LITIGATION. THANK YOU. AND I HAD. I NOW DECLARE THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL PRELIMINARY OPEN MEETING IS RECONVENED IN OPEN SESSION THAT ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT. OUR FIRST ITEM ON THE PRELIMINARY AGENDA IS CONSIDERATION AND ACTION RESULTING FROM THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. NEXT ITEM IS THE 2025 BOND REFERENDUM UPDATE. CITIZEN COMMITTEE AND PRELIMINARY PROJECT LIST. HELLO, KAREN. GOOD EVENING, KAREN RHODES-WHITLEY, BUDGET DIRECTOR. TONIGHT WE ARE KICKING OFF THE 2025 BOND REFERENDUM PROCESS WITH THE CITY COUNCIL. NOW, I DO NOT HAVE THE PROJECT LISTS FOR YOU. I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT WAS GOING TO BE NAMED ON THAT, BECAUSE OUR LAST MEETING WITH STAFF IS SCHEDULED FOR NEXT MONDAY. BUT DURING THE PRESENTATION, I WILL TALK TO YOU ABOUT SOME OF THE PROJECTS. THIS IS MORE ABOUT GIVING YOU ALL AN OVERVIEW ON WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE AND THE THINGS THAT ARE TO COME OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS. THE BOND REFERENDUM IS SCHEDULED FOR SATURDAY, MAY 3RD, 2025. THE CITY OF PLANO IS ON A FOUR YEAR CYCLE. AS FAR AS GOING TO THE VOTERS AND ASKING FOR BOND AUTHORITY. RIGHT NOW, THE PRELIMINARY LIST TOTALS APPROXIMATELY $700 MILLION DOLLARS. THE INITIAL LIST STARTED OUT AT $1.6 BILLION, SO WE HAD TO GO IN AND CUT FROM THAT LIST. IT IS FOCUSED ON PUBLIC SAFETY, LIBRARY FACILITIES, PARKS AND REC AND STREETS. THIS IS VERY PRELIMINARY, VERY, VERY PRELIMINARY. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY KIND OF GOOD NUMBERS YET AS FAR AS OUR ASSESSED PROPERTY VALUES ARE GOING. WE WILL GET THOSE IN JULY. SO I WILL HAVE MORE OF A TAX RATE IMPACT. RIGHT NOW MY NUMBERS ARE SHOWING BETWEEN 3 AND 4 CENTS. AND WE WILL DISCUSS THAT HERE IN A MINUTE. A COUPLE OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON THE PRELIMINARY LIST, THOUGH. WE HAVE STREETS AROUND 315 MILLION. WE ARE REQUESTING THE ADDITION OF FIRE STATION 14. WE NEED TO DO A POLICE HEADQUARTERS AND PSC REPLACEMENT. FIRE STATION EIGHT NEEDS REMODELED AND THE PARKWAY SERVICE CENTER AND FLEET PHASE ONE. WE DID ASK FOR MONEY FOR THAT BACK IN 2017. WE'RE NEEDING MORE MONEY TO FINISH THAT PROJECT. BONDS ARE ISSUED. OH, THIS IS ANOTHER THING. THE CITY AND I GOT A SLIDE ON THIS. WE WILL EXHAUST ALL BOND AUTHORITY FOR STREETS IN THE SPRING OF 2025. THEY ONLY HAVE ABOUT $50 MILLION LEFT. BONDS ARE ISSUED IN THE CITY FOR ROADS, FACILITY PARKS WITH AN EXPECTED LIFE OF 20 OR MORE. AUTHORITY IS PROVIDED BY THE CITIZENS THROUGH THE REFERENDUM PROCESS. THE CITY USES A COMBINATION. WE HAVE STAFF THAT DO THE PROJECTS, THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND THEN ALSO A CITIZEN COMMITTEE CALLED THE BOND REFERENDUM CITIZEN ADVISORY COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS PROJECTS TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THEIR RECOMMENDATION. THIS IS A LOOK AT THE PAST 20 YEARS AND THE DIFFERENT REFERENDUMS. WE HAVE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL. WHEN WE'VE GONE OUT FOR AUTHORITY ONLY TWICE IN THE LAST 20 YEARS HAS A PROPOSITION NOT BEEN VOTED ON OR NOT PASSED. THE FIRST ONE, THIS WAS BACK IN 2001, WAS FOR THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER, AND THE SECOND ONE WAS WAS BACK IN 2017. THAT WAS FOR THE COLLINWOOD HOUSE, THE MOVEMENT OF THE COLLINWOOD HOUSE. THIS IS A LOOK AT THE LAST TIME, AND WE'RE WORKING ON THIS AUTHORITY RIGHT NOW. 364 MILLION PASSED ALL PROPOSITIONS. [00:05:02] WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON USING THAT AUTHORITY AND THIS IS A LOOK AT THE PAST 20 YEARS TAX RATE IMPACT. WE ALWAYS ARE VERY UP FRONT WITH OUR CITIZENS AND TELL THEM WHAT THE TAX RATE IMPACT ON THE DEBT SIDE AND GENERAL FUND SIDE MIGHT BE. USUALLY WE HAVE ENOUGH AND WE CAN TIME THE ACTUAL BOND SALES. WELL, WE DON'T NEED A TAX RATE IMPACT. THE ONLY ONE WE HAVE EVER HAD DUE TO A REFERENDUM WAS BACK IN 2009 AND IF YOU REMEMBER, THAT WAS THE GREAT ECONOMIC RECESSION. OUR APPRAISED PROPERTY SEVERELY WERE DRIVEN DOWN DUE TO THE RECESSION. AT THAT TIME, WE DID HAVE TO INCREASE THE TAX RATE 1.3 $0.05 ON THE DEBT SIDE. THIS IS A LOOK AT OUR REMAINING AUTHORITY. AS I MENTIONED JUST A MINUTE AGO, WE ARE NEARLY OUT OF STREET AUTHORITY. WE DO HAVE SOME PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITY AUTHORITY THAT WE WILL BE ISSUING NEXT YEAR. A LITTLE BIT ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY SIDE AND A LITTLE BIT ON THE LIBRARIES. BUT PRIMARY REASON IS WE NEED WE'RE GOING TO NEED STREET AUTHORITY COMING UP. THIS IS JUST THE TIMELINE WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON. THIS CITY STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS REALLY SINCE NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR, BUT WE REALLY KICKED EVERYTHING OFF IN JUNE. SO RIGHT NOW THE CITY STAFF, THROUGH A EVERY MONTH WE ARE MEETING AND PREPARING THE INITIAL PROJECT LISTS AND THE DESCRIPTIONS AND FINANCIAL ANALYSIS IN MAY AND JUNE. CITY COUNCIL, WHICH WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS HERE WITH YOU IN A MINUTE, NOMINATES THE MEMBERS FOR THE BRCAC, WHICH IS THE CITIZEN ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AUGUST THROUGH DECEMBER. THAT'S WHEN THE CITIZEN COMMITTEE AND THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ARE SET TO REVIEW, RECOMMEND, PRIORITIZE AND COMMENT ON ALL PROJECTS TO BE INCLUDED WITHIN THE 2025 BOND REFERENDUM. WE ARE GOING TO KICK OFF EVERYTHING WITH THE CITY COUNCIL OCTOBER 28TH AND THEN NOVEMBER 25TH WE WILL START DISCUSSING THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS WITH EVERYBODY. SO NOVEMBER 25TH YOU WILL HEAR ABOUT ALL THE FACILITIES. WE ALSO ARE VERY INTO HAVING PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR CITIZEN INPUT AND THAT WILL BE OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING DECEMBER 9TH. WE WILL DISCUSS PROPOSED PARKS AND RECREATION PROJECTS, AND THAT WILL BE OUR SECOND PUBLIC HEARING. ALL THE DATA IS DUE. THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE DUE FROM THE CITIZEN ADVISORY COMMITTEE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS TO BE SENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL. DECEMBER 20TH AND THEN DECEMBER 23RD, YOU WILL HEAR FROM THE STREETS PART OF THE BOND REFERENDUM JANUARY 13TH. THIS IS WHEN 2025 AND THESE DATES ARE BY THE ELECTION CODE. ANYWAY, CITY COUNCIL WILL DISCUSS THE PROPOSED PROJECTS. WE WILL ALSO HAVE A THIRD PUBLIC HEARING ON JANUARY 27TH. YOU WILL NEED TO DECIDE ON WHAT PROPOSITIONS WILL BE SUBMITTED TO THE VOTERS. FEBRUARY 10TH, YOU WILL CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE TO CALL THE 2025 BOND REFERENDUM. THEN IN FEBRUARY AND MARCH, WE PUT TOGETHER A WHOLE BUNCH OF VOTER EDUCATIONAL MATERIAL, INCLUDING WE WILL HAVE A BOND REFERENDUM VIDEO. WE ALSO DO A PUBLICATION THAT GOES INTO THE COMMUNITY IMPACT PAPER IN EARLY MARCH. ALL THIS IS PRESENTED TO THE PLANO CITIZENS. MID-MARCH, APRIL WE WILL HAVE A BOND REFERENDUM ROADSHOW, WHICH WE GO OUT AND PRESENT TO COMMUNITY AND CIVIC GROUPS LIKE THE ROTARY CLUBS. HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS ASK US TO COME. WE GO OVER TO THE SENIOR CENTER. WE HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF PRESENTATIONS WE DO. WE ARE PLANNING ON A DIGITAL TOWN HALL MEETING IN APRIL. SOMETIME APRIL 1ST THROUGH THE 18TH, WE PUBLISH NOTICES FOR THE ELECTION. THE BOND VIDEO WILL AIR APRIL 14TH THROUGH MAY 2ND. APRIL 21ST THROUGH APRIL 29TH WILL BE EARLY VOTING AND THEN OF COURSE, SATURDAY, MAY 3RD IS ELECTION DAY. THE BOND REFERENDUM. CITIZEN ADVISORY COMMITTEE. THE BRCAC IS AN AD HOC COMMITTEE OF 8 NOMINATED BY EACH INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBER AND THE MAYOR. THEIR ASSIGNMENT IS TO REVIEW, PRIORITIZE, AND RECOMMEND AND MAKE COMMENTS ON ALL BOND REFERENDUM PROJECTS THE CITY COUNCIL USES. AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, WE'VE GOT STAFF. WE ALSO HAVE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, AND THAT'S HOW YOU DETERMINE YOUR FINAL PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE INCLUDED TONIGHT. [00:10:02] WE ARE GOING TO BE OPENING UP THE APPLICATION PROCESS NEXT WEEK SOMETIME, AND WE WILL START WORKING WITH THE BRCAC IN AUGUST OF 2024. WE MEET WITH THEM. OH, THIS IS WHO WAS ON THE BRCAC BACK LAST TIME. SO WE HAD JIM WATKINS, TRACY DRY, VINNY MINCHILLO, JANET STOVALL, CRAIG PERRY, CONNOR BARRON, ROHIT JOY AND MAGESH KANDAVADIVEL CAN'T PRONOUNCE THAT LAST NAME. WE ALSO HAVE TWO CITY COUNCIL LIAISONS. I AM THERE. WE HAVE SOMEBODY FROM LEGAL AND THEN OF COURSE, THE STAFF MEMBERS FROM THE BUDGET OFFICE. WE DO USE A RANKING SYSTEM WITH THEM. WE HAVE A MATRIX THAT WE'VE COME UP WITH AND IT WORKED VERY WELL WHERE THEY GO IN AND AFTER EACH OF THE MEETINGS, THEY DO THE RANKINGS OF THEIR PROJECTS AND THEN AT THE END WE PUT EVERYTHING TOGETHER AND THAT'S WHAT'S SUBMITTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL. TONIGHT. I KNOW MARK IS GOING TO TAKE THIS, BUT CITY COUNCILS TO NOMINATE ONE CITIZEN TO SERVE ON THE BOND REFERENDUM CITIZEN ADVISORY COMMITTEE. THE APPLICATIONS ARE SUPPOSED TO OPEN NEXT WEEK AND THEN, OF COURSE, TO DECIDE TWO CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO SERVE AS LIAISONS TO THE COMMITTEE. YOU CAN TAKE IT AWAY. THANK YOU, KAREN. MAYOR, COUNCIL. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE, YOU KNOW BROUGHT BACK AS A PRIORITY OF OURS IS INVOLVING CITIZENS AND A REVIEW COMMITTEE. CAPACITY FOR BONDS STARTING IN 2021 AND SO, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK WE REALLY NEED FROM YOU ALL IS, NUMBER ONE, THE OKAY, TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN APPLICATIONS SO WE CAN GO THROUGH OUR NORMAL BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS PROCESS. LISA'S TEAM CAN HAVE THAT VETTING PROCESS AND THEN YOU ALL CAN GO THROUGH YOUR INTERVIEWS AND SELECT THE PERSON THAT YOU WANT TO APPOINT TO THIS. BUT THE OTHER THING IS WE NEED THE MAYOR TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE LIAISONS AS WELL. SO WITH US, WE'RE READY TO MOVE FORWARD. STAFF IS READY. WE'VE ALREADY GOT THE PROJECTS LIST AND HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION TO START SHARING, BUT THIS GIVES US THE ABILITY TO TRANSITION HERE QUICKLY AND GET GOING IN AUGUST. SO IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH THIS DIRECTION WE'D LIKE TO OPEN THE APPLICATIONS AND REQUEST THAT THE MAYOR NAME THE LIAISONS TO THE BRCA. OKAY. SHELBY. THANK YOU. I'M ALL FOR OPENING UP THE APPLICATIONS. THE LAST COMMITTEE WE HAD, THEY ENDED UP SAYING WE'RE NOT GOING TO CONSIDER WHETHER ANY OF THESE SHOULD BE DONE. WE'RE JUST GOING TO APPLY OUR RANKING TO PRIORITIZATION. 700 MILLION IS A HEFTY SUM, AND I'D LIKE TO TRY TO CHARGE THIS COMMITTEE WITH ACTUALLY DETERMINING WHETHER THEY THINK SOMETHING MERITS DOING IN THIS FOUR YEAR TERM AND THAT'S A TOUGH CALL. BUT WHAT HAPPENED IS WITH THEIR RANKING, EVERYTHING CAME BEFORE COUNCIL, KIND OF WITH THE IMPRIMATUR OF THE COMMITTEE SAYING LIKE, YEAH, IT'S ALL A GOOD IDEA, WHICH WASN'T QUITE THE CONCLUSION THEY DREW. BUT I'D LIKE TO TRY TO APPLY THAT TO THEIR CHARGE AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO REQUEST THAT WE FORMALLY REFER TO THE BOND REFERENDUM REFERENDUM CITIZEN ADVISORY COMMITTEE AS THE BEARCAT. OKAY. WELL, NUMBER ONE, I THINK THAT PART OF THE CHALLENGE AND I THINK THAT'S THE ASPECT OF THE AD HOC COMMITTEE IS REVIEWING THE PROJECTS AND GOING THROUGH THAT RANKING PROCESS AND, KAREN, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THAT RANKING PROCESS, THEY CAN ACTUALLY GRADE THIS AS I THINK IT'S A NUMERIC PROCESS. YES, THAT IS CORRECT AND WE ALSO NEED TO REMEMBER BACK IN 2021, WE HAD TO DO THIS THROUGH COVID SO WE COULDN'T MEET YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF US WOULD COME IN, WE HAD THE MASK ON AND STUFF, BUT A LOT OF THEM CHOSE TO CALL IN. I SEE WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS IS SAYING. AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY WEREN'T COMING UP TO A DOLLAR AMOUNT. THEY WANTED TO RANK BASED ON WHAT THEY THOUGHT PROJECTS SHOULD BE RECOMMENDED. BUT THEY WERE NOT. THEY SAID UP FRONT THEY DIDN'T WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE DOLLAR AMOUNT PART. SO I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THAT'S WHAT WENT DOWN. OF COURSE, WE DID HAVE CHALLENGES OF COVID. IT SHOULD RUN A LOT SMOOTHER THIS TIME WITHOUT THE COVID PART OF IT AND I WOULD ALSO MENTION COUNCILMAN THAT I THINK THAT THE PUBLIC HEARINGS PROCESS ALSO PROVIDES AN AVENUE FOR THAT AS WELL AND COUNCIL ALWAYS HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY THIS IS THE AMOUNT THAT WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH AND THAT IS Y'ALL'S PREROGATIVE AS COUNCIL MEMBERS. SO THE REFERENDUM AGAIN, THIS IS SOLICITING THAT PUBLIC COMMENT AND THAT FEEDBACK. BUT THE DECISION ULTIMATELY COMES DOWN TO COUNCIL AS FAR AS WHAT'S GOING TO BE ON THAT REFERENDUM. I HAVE A POINT I'D LIKE TO BRING UP. [00:15:02] GO AHEAD. ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAVE ABOUT THE BEARCAT IS THAT I HOPE THIS IS NOT JUST A TABLETOP EXERCISE, IN THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT SOME OF THESE ELEMENTS HERE THAT NEED WHETHER WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE PROJECTS, I CERTAINLY HOPE THAT THIS COMMITTEE AND THE LIAISONS VISIT EACH OF THE BUILDINGS, THE EXISTING LIKE THE POLICE STATION, AND MAKE THAT DETERMINATION, YES OR NO. TOO MANY TIMES WE SEE THESE COMMITTEES GET TOGETHER AND THEY MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS WITHOUT HAVING ANY FIELD INVESTIGATIONS. SO I THINK IT'S SOMETHING IMPORTANT THAT WE AS LIAISONS THAT WE HELP WORK WITH THE CITY TO INSPECT THE FACILITIES THAT NEED TO BE RENOVATED OR TORN DOWN AND REBUILT. SO I THINK THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT ELEMENT HERE, SO THAT WE TAKE THAT INTO ADVISEMENT. I LOVE THAT COUNCILMAN, THE TWO THINGS I WOULD SAY IS, PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT YOUR FOLKS AT YOUR APPLYING THAT YOU'RE APPOINTING ARE QUALIFIED TO BE ABLE AND COMFORTABLE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT AS WELL. SO SOMEBODY THAT COMES IN, THERE'S GOING TO BE PEOPLE THAT MAY OR MAY NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE AND MAY, OR MAY NOT HAVE A BACKGROUND THAT FEELS COMFORTABLE WITH LOOKING AT THE BREADTH OF YOU KNOW, CONCRETE CONDITION, FACILITY CONDITION, PARKS CONDITION. THERE'S A LOT TO THAT AND SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY CAN GIVE THEIR GENERAL OPINION ABOUT THAT AND THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE. BUT I ALSO THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT OF DETAIL THAT GOES INTO SOME OF THOSE. SO I WOULD SAY YOUR INTERVIEWS AND WHO YOU APPOINT WILL WILL BE VERY IMPORTANT TO HELPING DETERMINE WHETHER, WHETHER OR NOT YOU GET THAT FEEDBACK THAT YOU'RE SO DESIRING. I HAD A QUESTION, NOT SO MUCH ABOUT THE ACTUAL COMMITTEE, BUT JUST ABOUT ONE OF THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS YOU PRESENTED, ABOUT THE 50 MILLION THAT'S LEFT IN BOND AUTHORITY FOR THE STREETS? YES. HOW MUCH OF THAT WAS ABLE TO BE OFFSET BY THE DOLLARS THAT WE RECEIVED FROM DART, OR WAS ANY OF IT? YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT OUT? DART IS ON TOP OF THIS. SO WE WILL ACTUALLY BURN THROUGH ALL OF THE DART MONEY. WE WERE GETTING VERY CLOSE AS YOU ALL HAVE SEEN THOSE THOSE MONTHLY REPORTS. SO DART WILL BE COMPLETELY EXHAUSTED. WE WILL ALSO BE DONE WITH THE 59 MILLION BY MID-YEAR NEXT YEAR BASED ON OUR PROJECTIONS. SO WE WILL BE OUT OF BOND AUTHORITY BY JUNE. I THINK OF NEXT YEAR 25. WE WILL ACTUALLY STILL HAVE MONTHS TO GO IN OUR FISCAL YEAR THAT WE WILL LITERALLY BE OUT OF BOND AUTHORITY AND SO THERE'S THE POTENTIAL OF STOPPING WORK AT THAT POINT. OUR INTENT IS NOT TO BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF PROJECTS YET TO DO. BUT THE DART AUTHORITY DID NOT. IT WAS SUPPLEMENTAL TO THIS. IT DID NOT TAKE THE PLACE OF THIS. SO IT'S ON TOP OF WHAT YOU'RE SEEING. SO WE WILL GO THROUGH THAT 59 MILLION AS WELL AS ALL THE DART MONEY. THANK YOU, MAYOR. JUST A QUICK COMMENT, AND WE DON'T CERTAINLY NEED TO DELVE INTO THIS TONIGHT. I KNOW WE'LL HAVE MULTIPLE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS BEFORE WE VOTE. YOU KNOW, MANY MONTHS FROM NOW. BUT ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AS PART OF THIS PROCESS IS EDUCATION ABOUT THE TAX IMPACT, NOT JUST ON THE TAX RATE, BUT THE OVERALL DOLLAR TAX IMPACT TO THE AVERAGE PLANO TAXPAYER. BECAUSE CITY MANAGER ISRAELSON AND I HAD A NUMBER OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS FOUR YEARS AGO. BUT THE REASON THAT SO FREQUENTLY WE END UP WITH THAT ZERO CENT TAX IMPACT ON THE TAX RATE IS BECAUSE PROPERTY VALUES GO UP AND SO, YEAH, I THINK SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU SAY, WELL, THE IMPACT OF THE TAX RATE IS THIS A LOT OF CITIZENS MISUNDERSTAND THAT. THAT'S THE TOTAL COST TO THEM OF THESE PROJECTS AND SO, YOU KNOW, YOU END UP WITH STATEMENTS WHERE MAYBE SOMEBODY THINKS FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR $12 FOR THE AVERAGE PLANO RESIDENT, WE CAN DO ALL OF THIS WHEN, OF COURSE, $12 FROM, YOU KNOW, EVERY PLANO RESIDENT IS NOT GOING TO ADD UP TO HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE TOTAL COST OF THIS, NOT JUST ABOVE THE CURRENT TAX RATE, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, THE OPPORTUNITY COST WE MISS OUT ON OF BEING ABLE TO DECREASE THE INTEREST IN SINKING RATE IF WE DIDN'T ISSUE THE BONDS. WHEN ARE WE NEEDING TO HAVE THESE BRCA'S IN PLACE? OKAY. WE WILL GET STARTED AS SOON AS Y'ALL COME BACK FROM YOU'LL HAVE A HOLIDAY IN JULY. WE WILL START PROBABLY THE FIRST WEEK IN AUGUST. LAST TIME, I THINK Y'ALL HAD NOMINATED BY THE END OF JUNE, IF I. OKAY, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. YEAH, END OF JUNE. OKAY AND THE LIAISONS NEED TO BE APPOINTED. SAME TIME. OKAY. ALL RIGHT AND I WILL TELL YOU THIS. OUR KICKOFF MEETING PROVIDES ALL THE HISTORY, PROVIDES ALL THE EDUCATION ON WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO. THAT'S USUALLY OUR FIRST MEETING AND DEPENDING ON THE WAY THEY WANT TO GO, WE CAN CURTAIL THE DIFFERENT MEETINGS. [00:20:02] SO THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THEY WANT TO SEE. PERFECT. PLEASE. EVERYBODY OKAY TO MOVE FORWARD. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM IS DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION REGARDING ZONING AND SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE STAKEHOLDER COMMITTEE. [INAUDIBLE]. IT'S OFF. THANK YOU SO MUCH. BETTER. SO I'M COMING BEFORE YOU WITH A REQUEST TO APPOINT WHAT IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE BOND REFERENDUM COMMITTEE, BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS A STAKEHOLDER COMMITTEE OF TECHNICAL EXPERTS THAT WILL GIVE US A REVIEW THAT HELPS US REALLY TEST, CHALLENGE, TROUBLESHOOT THE ZONING ORDINANCE LANGUAGE. WE WANT EVERYONE THAT'S A PART OF THIS COMMITTEE, OF COURSE, TO STILL BE A PLANO RESIDENT, TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT WAY. BUT WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FOR A LEVEL OF EXPERTISE BEING EITHER THAT THEY'RE INVOLVED IN THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, INVOLVED IN A BOARD OR COMMISSION, EITHER THIS BODY, CITY COUNCIL, PLANNING AND ZONING, BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY OR OTHER PROFESSIONALS SUCH AS AN ACP PLANNER, AIA ARCHITECT, PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER, AND A LAND USE OR MUNICIPAL ATTORNEY. SO WE ALSO THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE NICE TO HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REVIEW COMMITTEE, AS OUR REAL PURPOSE HERE IS TO CONNECT THESE ORDINANCES TO OUR POLICY STATEMENTS. SO IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH THAT, WE THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE VERY CHALLENGING TO DO THAT WITH INDIVIDUAL APPOINTMENTS BECAUSE OF THE DIVERSITY AND TECHNICAL EXPERTISE THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO REPRESENT ON THE COMMITTEE. SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT THE COUNCIL LIAISONS AND P&Z CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR BE SET UP AS A STEERING COMMITTEE TO MAKE APPOINTMENTS THAT WOULD THEN COME FORWARD TO THIS BODY FOR APPROVAL. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS, SOME OF THE THINGS WE'D BE LOOKING FOR ARE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE WILLING TO MEET OVER AN 18 MONTH PERIOD. THERE'S GOING TO BE 13 MEETINGS THAT WE'VE GOT ON OUR SCHEDULE. SO WE NEED KIND OF A LONG TERM COMMITMENT FROM PEOPLE. AGAIN, WE WANT REPRESENTATIVES OF ELECTED AND APPOINTED OFFICIALS BECAUSE OF THE IMPACT AND THE FAMILIARITY WITH THESE ORDINANCES. WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE EFFICIENCY AND TIMELY COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT BY KEEPING THIS SIZE THE STAKEHOLDER COMMITTEE TO A LIMITED SIZE. THAT'S AT THE RECOMMENDATION OF OUR CONSULTANT, AS THEY'VE DONE THIS MORE FREQUENTLY THAN WE HAVE AND THE REPRESENTATIVES NEED TO BE ABLE TO REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE AND ADDITIONALLY, WE WANT TO MENTION THAT THIS IS AN AD HOC AND ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. THE INFORMATION THAT COMES BACK TO COUNCIL WILL BE THROUGH P AND Z. SO WITH THAT, I WANT TO OFFER THIS AS AN OPTION TO YOU AND SEE IF WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. ANY THOUGHTS? OKAY. I GUESS, I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING. SO THIS WOULD BE AN ADVISORY OR A CONSULTANT TYPE COMMITTEE. IT WOULD BE AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT GIVES FEEDBACK BASED ON EXPERIENCE. SO PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY WORK IN THE REAL ESTATE MARKET IN NORTH TEXAS AND KNOW, HEY, THIS NEW LANGUAGE THAT YOU ARE PROPOSING IS NOT GOING TO MEET YOUR POLICY GOALS AND HERE'S WHY. BASED ON MY PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE AND SO THEY WOULD ADVISE P&Z, THEY WOULD ADVISE P&Z, THEY WOULD WORK WITH STAFF AND THE CONSULTING TEAM TO GIVE US ADVICE AND THEN WE WOULD TAKE THAT ON TO P&Z. SO I GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING IS LET'S GO THROUGH A PROCESS. SO FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT WHY WOULD THEY MEET? SO WOULD THERE BE A PROJECT THAT'S BEING PROPOSED THERE. THEN IT WOULD GO TO THEM AND THEY LOOK AT IT BEFORE IT GOES TO P&Z. OR IS IT ONLY FOR THE ZONING AND SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE REWRITE? SO WE'RE TAKING THAT IN PIECES. WE WOULD BE REVIEWING THAT IN PIECES. SO WE HAVE THAT BROKEN UP THAT FIRST WE'RE LOOKING AT LAND USE AND OUR LAND USE MATRIX AND DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO KEEP ALL THE ZONING DISTRICTS WE HAVE TODAY AND SHOULD WE MAKE WHAT MODIFICATION SHOULD WE MAKE TO THAT? SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS YOU ALREADY IDENTIFY ALL THE ISSUES THAT YOU WANT THIS COMMITTEE TO EVALUATE. IS THAT WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE REVIEWING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE. AND YOU'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED THE ISSUES THAT THEY NEED. THAT IS CORRECT. WE WILL HAVE A LIST, BUT THEY COULD ALSO BRING ISSUES TO US IF THEY SAY, HEY, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH YOUR ZONING ORDINANCE FOR 20 YEARS, AND I THINK THIS PART'S BROKEN. THEN WE DEFINITELY WANT TO TAKE THAT ADVICE AND THEN SO WOULD THE WITH THE STAFF BE THE ONE RESPONSIBLE AND TRYING TO IDENTIFY THOSE PEOPLE WHO SHOULD BE APPOINTED TO THIS COMMITTEE THAT WOULD COME THROUGH THE STEERING COMMITTEE. [00:25:04] SO THE COUNCIL LIAISONS AND THE P&Z LIAISONS WOULD BE THE INDIVIDUALS WHO WOULD BE RECOMMENDING PEOPLE FOR THE STEERING COMMITTEE. THE STEERING COMMITTEE IS SEPARATE FROM THE CONSULTANT. I'M SORRY. I GUESS STEERING COMMITTEE WOULD BE THE LIAISONS FOR SO THE TWO COUNCIL MEMBER S, TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE CHAIR AND THE VICE CHAIR OF P&Z. THAT WOULD BE THE STEERING COMMITTEE. OKAY. THEY THEY'RE THE STEERING COMMITTEE WOULD JUST APPOINT THIS BODY OF TECHNICAL EXPERTS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANKS. OKAY. ANTHONY. THANK YOU. MAYOR. SO FOLLOWING UP ON THE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, I JUST HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS BECAUSE AS YOU ALLUDED TO, CHRISTINA, THIS IS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF COMMITTEE THAN WE USUALLY HAVE. YOU KNOW, USUALLY WE'RE LOOKING FOR NON TECHNICAL CITIZEN FEEDBACK THROUGH COMMITTEES AND YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY ON TECHNICAL ISSUES, I TRY TO, YOU KNOW, RECOGNIZE THAT I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, A CERTIFIED PLANNER OR AN ENGINEER OR THINGS LIKE THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NORMALLY, YOU KNOW, I THINK AS A COUNCIL MEMBER OR AS A COMMITTEE MEMBER, KIND OF THE APPROACH AND THIS WILL BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT. WE ALSO FREQUENTLY WHEN WE FEEL LIKE WE NEED, YOU KNOW, THAT OUTSIDE, YOU KNOW, PERSPECTIVE OR SOUNDING BOARD WILL HIRE CONSULTANTS. SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS I CAN'T REMEMBER, BUT WHEN THE PLANO TOMORROW PLAN WAS PASSED AND I CAN'T REMEMBER IF THERE WAS A ZONING AND SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE REWRITE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. OKAY. I WAS GOING TO ASK, SO I GUESS, AND YOU PROBABLY DON'T KNOW IF THE 1986 PLAN HAD A COMMITTEE LIKE THIS OR. NO, I DON'T. THAT'S BEFORE BOTH OF OUR TIME. SO I'M CURIOUS, WHAT WAS THE GENESIS OF SAYING WE NEED A COMMITTEE LIKE THIS AS OPPOSED TO HIRING OUTSIDE CONSULTANTS OR, YOU KNOW, GETTING THAT EXTERNAL PERSPECTIVE THAT WAY. SURE. WE I THINK WE'RE JUST TRYING TO DO AN OVERLY DILIGENT JOB OF VETTING THIS LANGUAGE BECAUSE IT'S SO IMPACTFUL TO PEOPLE WHO OWN LAND IN THE CITY. A REWRITE OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE POTENTIALLY CHANGES THE REGULATIONS IN A REALLY MEANINGFUL WAY AND SO IT'S IMPORTANT AND IT'S INCREDIBLY COMPLEX BECAUSE IT'S SO NUANCED AND LAYERED AND SO WE'RE LOOKING TO MAKE SURE STAFF HAS THINGS WE THINK NEED TO BE FIXED. THE CONSULTANT WILL HAVE THEIR PERSPECTIVE, BUT WE DON'T THINK THAT'S REALLY ENOUGH. WE WANT TO RUN IT THROUGH THIS TO REALLY THIS IS A KIND OF A VETTING PROCESS I WANT TO SAY TO SAY, DOES THIS ACTUALLY WORK IN THE REAL WORLD? AND IT JUST GIVES US THAT EXTRA LAYER OF PROTECTION BECAUSE WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE PEOPLE THAT CARE ABOUT PLANO BECAUSE THEY LIVE HERE AND ALSO HAVE THIS EXPERTISE THAT THEY'LL USE TO KIND OF POKE HOLES IN THINGS AND TELL US WHERE THE FLAWS ARE AND I THINK THAT COULD BE VERY VALUABLE, YOU KNOW, IF THE COMMITTEE'S ROLE IS UNDERSTOOD APPROPRIATELY. BUT I GUESS THE THE LITTLE BIT OF A CONCERN THAT I HAVE ABOUT THIS IS JUST THAT IF YOU LOOK AT THE 11 CATEGORIES, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THREE DIFFERENT TYPES OF DEVELOPERS AND THEN VARIOUS OTHER TYPES OF PROFESSIONALS, YOU KNOW, PLANNERS, ENGINEERS, ARCHITECTS, LAND USE ATTORNEYS YOU KNOW, ALL OF WHOM, YOU KNOW, MAKE THEIR LIVING FROM DEVELOPMENT AND SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, ONE WOULD EXPECT THAT THIS YOU KNOW, THIS COMMITTEE WOULD HAVE A VERY PRO-DEVELOPMENT LEAN AND, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY WOULD NOT IT MY GUESS WOULD BE PROBABLY WOULD NOT HAVE PASSED THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, YOU KNOW, THE 2021 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, IF THIS WERE, YOU KNOW, THE COMMITTEE CONSIDERING THAT AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE HAVE THIS COMMITTEE, WE RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S A COMMITTEE TO TRY TO MAKE SURE, AS I THINK WE SHOULD, THAT WHILE ACCOMPLISHING OUR POLICY OBJECTIVES FOR LAND USE IN THE CITY OF PLANO, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THINGS ARE KIND OF ADMINISTRATIVELY FEASIBLE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AND THAT'S A GOOD GOAL TO HAVE. BUT I GUESS MY CONCERN IS THAT IN THE REWRITE OF THESE ORDINANCES, DEPENDING ON WHAT TYPE OF VOICE THIS COMMITTEE IS GIVEN YOU KNOW WHERE THERE'S A GRAY AREA. THERE MAY BE A PULL TOWARD YOU KNOW, TOWARD ONE VIEW THAT MANY PLANO RESIDENTS MIGHT NOT SHARE AND SO THAT'S I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MAKES SENSE AT ALL, BUT WOULD YOU BUT WOULD YOU WANT, IF YOU WERE GOING TO REMODEL YOUR HOUSE, YOU WANT THE BEST EXPERTS TO BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU ADVICE ON HOW TO DO IT RIGHT. OH, FOR SURE AND THAT I THINK THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS MISSING IN THE COMP PLAN COMMITTEE IS NO EXPERTS WERE ON THAT COMMITTEE AND I THINK THIS ALLOWS THEM TO GIVE THEIR INPUT. WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE IT, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY LISTEN TO IT AND USE THAT AS A GOOD GUIDE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE [00:30:03] RECOMMENDATIONS. SO I MEAN, YEAH, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK THAT PART OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE REALLY PROBABLY COULD HAVE USED OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS, WE REALLY NEVER GOT AND, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK THAT'S FAIR. SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, I GUESS WHAT I WAS JUST TRYING TO KIND OF PUT OUT THERE AT THE INCEPTION IS I HOPE THAT WE. YOU KNOW THAT WE VIEW THIS COMMITTEE AS A VERY USEFUL COMMITTEE THAT WILL PROVIDE FEEDBACK ABOUT HOW THESE REGULATIONS WILL IMPACT THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, BUT NOT LOOK AT THIS STAKEHOLDER COMMITTEE AS BEING, YOU KNOW, BROADLY REPRESENTATIVE OF PLANO AND I HOPE THAT WE'LL INCLUDE OTHER VOICES IN THE DISCUSSION AND, YOU KNOW, AND MAKE SURE THAT WE THAT WE LISTEN TO THE WHOLE CITY AND NOT JUST THOSE WHO ARE PROFESSIONALLY INVOLVED IN THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AND IF YOU'LL REMEMBER, COUNCILMAN, WE JUST PASSED THAT AMENDMENT TO THAT CONTRACT TO INCLUDE A ROBUST AMOUNT OF PUBLIC FEEDBACK. YES, I DO REMEMBER THAT. OKAY. SO I GUESS THAT TAKES CARE OF IT. I JUST WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, AND I'M SURE EVERYBODY ON HERE, THEY'LL BE PLANO RESIDENTS. THEY WILL LOVE THE CITY AND I KNOW THEY'LL DO A GREAT JOB. I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF, YOU KNOW, RAISE MY HAND AND MAKE THAT POINT. I BELIEVE THAT IT'S ACTUALLY AN ADVISORY TO THE P&Z, NOT TO US. RIGHT. THAT IS CORRECT. SO THEY WOULD BASICALLY WHATEVER CONCLUSION THEY COME TO, THEY WOULD GO AND TRY TO ADVOCATE TO THE P&Z AND TELL THEM THIS IS THE REASON WHY WE CAME TO AND THEN P&Z WOULD, BASED ON THAT SET OF INFORMATION, WOULD EITHER APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE WHATEVER IS IN FRONT OF THEM. THAT IS CORRECT. SO BASICALLY, A LITTLE BIT MORE HELP FOR THE P&Z WHO ARE JUST REGULAR INDIVIDUALS, RIGHT AND WE'RE REALLY LOOKING TO FILTER THIS ALL THROUGH THE POLICY OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO THE WHOLE GOAL OF THE PROJECT IS TO ALIGN OUR REGULATIONS WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO IF THERE'S SOMETHING COMING OUT OF THE COMMITTEE THAT DOESN'T ALIGN WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE REALLY UP FRONT ABOUT THAT. YEAH AND I THINK IT ALSO HELPS YOU AS THE STAFF MEMBER, IT TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF BURDEN OFF OF THE STAFF TO HAVE TO EXPLAIN AND RE-EXPLAIN AND, DOUBLE EXPLAIN ALL THE POLICIES AND RULES OF WHY IT WORKS AND WHY IT DOESN'T. SO I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD IDEA BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS IT TAKES BURDEN OFF OF OUR STAFF, I WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, ABSOLUTELY. IN FAVOR OF THAT. THANK YOU. MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT THE ZONING AND SUBDIVISION ORDINANCES THEMSELVES. WE'VE IDENTIFIED WHERE THERE'S HOLES, WHERE THERE'S CONFLICTS CURRENTLY WITH THE COMP PLAN, AND WE'RE ALWAYS SEEING TRYING TO RECTIFY NEW DEVELOPMENT OR REDEVELOPMENT WITH A COMP PLAN, WHICH IS, RELATIVELY SPEAKING, NEW THAT EVERYONE CERTAINLY HAD A COMMUNITY INPUT. BUT AGAIN, WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THAT WHOLE PROCESS, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY FROM THE PROFESSIONAL SIDE TO HELP THAT. WE HAD CITIZEN CONTRIBUTION AND WHERE WE HAVE THE DEVELOPERS, THEY'RE PROFESSIONALS. THEY GO THROUGH THIS ALL THE TIME, AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT EASY FOR THEM TO WORK WITHIN THE CONFINES OF WHAT WE HAVE WITHIN OUR ORDINANCES, AS THEY'RE MODIFIED AND ADJUSTED, AND THEY WILL BE MODIFIED AND ADJUSTED TEN YEARS FROM NOW. BUT THAT'S A THOSE ARE DYNAMIC. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A WAY HERE THAT WE CAN. HAD THEM MAKE IT EASY. I'M NOT GOING TO SAY EASY, BUT MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT LESS CHALLENGING FOR A DEVELOPER TO COME IN AND HELP US GROW. STILL STAY COMPLIANT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND AT THE SAME TIME, TRY TO EASE THE BURDEN ON OUR CITY STAFF AND P AND Z AS THEY GO THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS AND THIS IS A WAY THAT NOW WE CAN GO BACK THERE AND LOOK AT TWO ORDINANCES AND ADDRESS THOSE HOLES. AND IF I MAY JUST QUICKLY RESPOND, I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR THAT THE WAY THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING THIS NOW, I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH THAT. I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE OUR DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY. I MEAN, Y'ALL MAY KNOW MY MY WIFE IS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY. SO THAT'S A, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF GREAT FOLKS IN THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS OUR APPROACH, THAT WE RECOGNIZE THIS AS ONE DATA POINT WHERE WE'RE REALLY HEARING FROM THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, AND THAT IT SHOULDN'T BE LOOKED AT THE WAY THAT WE INTENDED THE CCRC TO BE KIND OF BROADLY REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ENTIRE CITY OF PLANO, THAT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, A PARTICULAR COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE HEARING FROM AS AN IMPORTANT DATA POINT IN THE PROCESS, BUT THAT THERE ARE MANY OTHER VOICES TO CONSIDER AS WELL. AND I THINK IF THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING THEN, THEN I THINK THIS COULD PROVIDE REALLY VALUABLE FEEDBACK AND I WOULD SUPPORT IT. ALL RIGHT. RICK. YEAH AND CHRISTINA, I THINK IF I'M HEARING YOU CORRECTLY, LISTENING TO EVERYTHING HERE, THE IMPORTANT THING TO KEEP IN MIND IS WE'RE NOT ASKING THE CITIZENS COMMITTEE TO ACTUALLY WRITE NEW ORDINANCES. STAFF, OUR PROFESSIONALS ARE GOING TO BE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS. WE KNOW SOME THINGS. AS COUNCIL MEMBER HORNE WAS POINTING OUT, THERE MAY BE SOME AREAS THAT THEY'RE KIND OF GRAY AREAS NOW. WE JUST WANT TO MAKE THOSE WHERE THEY'RE MORE REASONABLY UNDERSTANDABLE AS WE MOVE FORWARD FOR FOR WHAT WE HOPE TO ACCOMPLISH. SO I THINK BACK ON, YOU KNOW, COUNCILMEMBER KELLY'S POINT IS IT MAY NOT BE AS IMPORTANT AS [00:35:08] WE THINK TO HAVE ALL LIKE ARCHITECTS OR DEVELOPERS OR WHATEVER. YOU KNOW, I THINK MAYBE JUST, YOU KNOW, HAVE SOME FOLKS THAT ARE WELL ROUNDED GROUP REPRESENTATIVE OF THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT'S REALLY GOING TO BE COMMON SENSE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING IN THERE TO MAKE I GUESS, HELPFUL RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU FOLKS ON WHAT YOU'RE PRESENTING TO THEM AFTER YOU'VE ALREADY EVALUATED IT AND YOU'RE ASKING THEM TO SAY, YEAH, WE THINK THIS IS A GOOD IDEA, BUT DID YOU THINK ABOUT KIND OF THINGS LIKE THAT? AM I HEARING THIS, THINKING ABOUT THIS CORRECTLY? OUR GOAL WAS TO GET PEOPLE THAT HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF THIS INDUSTRY SO THAT THEY CAN USE THAT KNOWLEDGE TO BENEFIT THE PROCESS. SO REALLY JUST THEY HELP US RUN THE TRAPS, FIND PROBLEMS AND ELIMINATE THEM BEFORE THEY YOU END UP WITH A BUNCH OF AMENDMENTS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T GET THINGS RIGHT THE FIRST TIME. SO THAT'S REALLY IT'S JUST A TESTING PROCESS. OKAY. GOOD. THANK YOU. CERTAINLY. BECAUSE EVERYBODY OKAY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM IS COMPENSATION. PHILOSOPHY AND STRUCTURE STUDY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MR. ISRAELSON. [INAUDIBLE], I'M LASHAWN ROSS, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER. I'M HERE TO BRING ALONG WITH OUR HR DIRECTOR, VICTORIA NGUYEN, TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE COMPENSATION STRUCTURE AND PHILOSOPHY STUDY AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU, ALL DAY TODAY, I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT HOW APPROPRIATE IT IS FOR US TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE REASON BEHIND THIS UPDATE AND WHY IT'S NECESSARY FOR US TO BE ATTENTIVE TO COMPENSATION, AS WE ARE THE CITY OF PLANO. WHEN WE LOOK AT THE WEATHER EVENTS OVER THE PAST 12 TO 18 HOURS, AND TO LOOK AT WHAT CITY STAFF HAS BEEN DOING ALL DAY TODAY, WHICH IS NOT UNLIKE WHAT CITY STAFF DOES ON MANY DAYS, BUT HAVE BEEN CALLED UPON SINCE EARLY THIS MORNING TO AGAIN MAKE SURE THAT OUR QUALITY OF LIFE REMAINS, THAT SAFETY IS IN FRONT OF US, THAT IT'S PRIORITIZED. AND I WANTED TO DEFINITELY MENTION THAT. FIRST OF ALL, IT'S A THANK YOU TO CITY STAFF, BUT ALSO AS JUST A REMINDER OF WHY WE ARE DOING THIS AND IF YOU ALL REMEMBER, IT'S BEEN OVER A YEAR NOW THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS COMPENSATION PHILOSOPHY AND STRUCTURE STUDY, WE ACTUALLY STARTED PUTTING THE RFP TOGETHER IN 2022. IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT GOING OUT AND SURVEYING ACTUAL DOLLARS. IT'S ABOUT THE PHILOSOPHY AND THE STRUCTURE AND THAT THE CITY PUTS IN PLACE FOR COMPENSATION AND SO WE'VE REALLY BEEN VERY ATTENTIVE TO MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THIS RIGHT, SORT OF LIKE THE FISCAL ROADMAP THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON. AND SO A LOT OF ATTENTION HAS BEEN GIVEN TO THIS TOPIC. A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ENGAGED IN THE PROCESS IN TERMS OF THE PEOPLE INSIDE THE ORGANIZATION AND SO WE JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE STILL WORKING ON IT. WE ARE MAKING PROGRESS AND TO AGAIN, SAY THANK YOU TO COUNCIL FOR THE SUPPORT THAT YOU ALL GIVE TO STAFF AND FOR ALLOWING US TO DO THIS. I WILL JUST REALLY KIND OF TAKE CARE OF THE INTRO AND THEN PASS IT ON TO VICTORIA FOR HER TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE DETAILS THAT ARE HAPPENING. THIS IS OF THE FULL FRAMEWORK THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WITH THE COMPENSATION SYSTEM STUDY THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE EMBARKING, EMBARKING UPON. IT'S THE PAY PHILOSOPHY, AS WE'VE TOLD YOU ABOUT BEFORE, LOOKING AT THE MARKET APPROACH, DOES THAT STILL MAKE SENSE? AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT. WHAT IS THE PAY STRUCTURE. HOW IS THAT WORKING FOR US. WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW WELL DO WE COMPETE AND A LOT OF THESE DETAILS WILL BE SHARED WITH YOU AND I WILL TELL YOU IN VICTORIA WILL PROBABLY MENTION THIS AS WELL. BUT AS WE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THE DETAILS OF WHERE WE ARE AND HOW WE COMPETE AND HOW WE'RE POSITIONED, THE CITY IS VERY WELL POSITIONED FROM A COMPENSATION STANDPOINT AND THAT'S NOT JUST BECAUSE OF THIS STUDY. IT'S ABOUT WHAT THE CITY AND THE CITY COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGEMENT HAS BEEN ABLE TO SUPPORT AND ACT UPON FOR MANY YEARS AND SO THE ATTENTIVENESS TO COMPENSATION AND BENEFITS CONTINUES TO BE WORK VERY WELL ON BEHALF OF THE CITY IN TERMS OF HOW WE'RE ABLE TO RECRUIT, HOW WE'RE ABLE TO RETAIN AND HOPEFULLY SHOW VALUE TO TO CITY STAFF. WE'LL ALSO TALK ABOUT THE INTERNAL JOB VALUE AND THE WORTH IN VICTORIA. WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING INTERNALLY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE REALLY ARE ATTENTIVE TO THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE JOBS. WHAT DOES THE HIERARCHY LOOK LIKE? WHAT DOES THE SPREAD LOOK LIKE AS WE LOOK AT OUR FRAMEWORK AND OUR JOB FAMILIES AND OUR JOB GROWTH AND THE BANDWIDTH THE INDIVIDUAL EMPLOYEE PAY, OUR GOAL IS TO CONSISTENTLY HAVE FAIR PAY AND TO MAKE SURE THAT NOT ONLY IS IT FAIR WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMPETING WITH OUTSIDE, BUT THERE'S AN INTERNAL FAIRNESS AS WELL. SO ALL OF THESE STEPS ARE REALLY IMPORTANT. WE'RE GIVING A LOT OF ATTENTION TO THEM, WORKING WITH OUR CONSULTANTS AND HELPING US TAKE A CLOSE LOOK, BECAUSE OUR GOAL AT THE END OF THE DAY IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE [00:40:07] CONFIRM THAT OUR COMPENSATION STRUCTURE AND OUR PHILOSOPHY WORKS FOR US, NOT JUST FOR TODAY, AS YOU WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT A FEW MINUTES AGO, BUT INTO THE FUTURE. HOW ARE WE MAKING SURE THAT OUR COMPENSATION MAKES SENSE GOING FORWARD? SO AS WE LOOKED AT THE PAY PHILOSOPHY, THE MARKET APPROACH, IF WE GO BACK TO 1994. I THINK IT'S WHEN THE CITY OF PLANO ACTUALLY PUT ITS COMPENSATION PHILOSOPHY IN PLACE, WHICH IS THAT WE WANT TO BE AT THE MEDIAN PLUS 5%. WE WANT TO BE A BIT ABOVE WHERE THE REST OF THE MARKET FINDS ITSELF IN. IN TERMS OF MEDIAN POSITIONING, WE DID A LITTLE BIT MORE WORK WITH THE EXECUTIVE TEAM THIS YEAR TO ASK IS THAT DOES THAT SAY ENOUGH? IS THAT DEFINED ENOUGH IN TERMS OF THE PHILOSOPHY? SO WE DID A LITTLE BIT OF WORK ON THAT WITH OUR EXECUTIVE TEAM AND ALSO WITH OUR CONSULTANTS CPSHR. AND WE WE AGREED UPON THIS BEING OUR PHILOSOPHY GOING FORWARD. IT'S NOT REALLY CHANGING WHAT THE PHILOSOPHY HAS BEEN, BUT IT PROVIDES A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPLANATION. SO OUR PHILOSOPHY NOW FOR COMPENSATION IS THE CITY OF PLANO PROVIDES A COMPENSATION PACKAGE BECAUSE WE THINK THAT TOTAL BENEFITS ARE REALLY IMPORTANT TO THE CITY EXPENSE FUNDS ON THOSE, AND WE WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THEM, PROVIDES A COMPENSATION PACKAGE THAT'S COMPETITIVE, TRANSPARENT AND EQUITABLE TO ATTRACT AND RETAIN A DIVERSE AND HIGH PERFORMING WORKFORCE. WE THINK THAT WITH THAT DEFINITION, IT POSITIONS US TO CONTINUE TO LOOK BACK AND MAKE GOOD DECISIONS THAT ALLOW US TO CONTINUE TO COMPETE IN THE MARKET AND TO CONTINUE TO VALUE THE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE WITH US TODAY AND THEN THE SALARY POSITIONING. WE TOOK A LOOK AT THE MEDIAN PLUS 5% AND WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT WITH THE MARKET VOLATILITY, WITH WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW, WITH THE WORK THAT THE CITY OF PLANO HAS DONE OVER THE YEARS IN TERMS OF MARKET PAY, WE'RE FINE. THERE IS NO REASON TO CHANGE THAT MARKET PHILOSOPHY THAT MEDIAN PLUS 5%. THERE'S NO REASON TO MAKE IT MORE COMPLEX THAN IT NEEDS TO BE. IT KEEPS US WHERE WE ARE AND THERE'S SOMETHING REALLY NICE ABOUT THE WAY THAT WE'RE ABLE TO USE OUR TOTAL COMPENSATION PLAN TO BE ABLE TO MOVE THROUGH THAT MARKET. IF, THE MEDIAN PLUS 5% ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH FOR WHATEVER POSITION WE'RE TRYING TO RECRUIT FOR AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME, THEN WE CAN PUT JUSTIFICATIONS IN PLACE FROM THE HIRING DEPARTMENTS AND THEN TALK ABOUT, IS THERE JUSTIFICATION FOR US TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THIS PARTICULAR POSITION BECAUSE OF WHERE THE MARKET IS, AND WE HAVE SOME OF THOSE TYPES OF POSITIONS SOMETIMES THAT WILL REQUIRE US TO DO THAT AND SO IT'S REALLY GOOD WHEN WE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THESE TYPES OF ISSUES AND ASK THESE QUESTIONS AND FIND THAT THE CITY OF PLANO'S WORK OVER MANY YEARS CONTINUES TO BE OF BENEFIT FOR BRINGING US TO A COMPETITIVE PLACE TODAY. SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO ASK VICTORIA TO COME FORWARD. SHE AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS, AND WE THOUGHT THAT I SHOULD ONLY BRING IT TO WHERE WE ARE, AND VICTORIA SHOULD TAKE IT FORWARD BECAUSE IT WILL REMAIN WITH HR. FROM THIS POINT FORWARD, WORKING IN TANDEM WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. SO VICTORIA, OUR HR DIRECTOR, IS GOING TO COME FORWARD AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY TOO, AND I KNOW THAT VICTORIA DOESN'T WANT TO HEAR ALL OF THIS, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY TOO, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT BEING ABLE TO VALUE EMPLOYEES AND RETAIN EMPLOYEES, VICTORIA HAS 26 YEARS WITH THE CITY OF PLANO, 20 OF THOSE SHE SPENT ACTUALLY AS THE PERSONNEL ATTORNEY FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. AND I THINK IT SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT THE CITY AND WHAT WE BRING TO EMPLOYEES. WHEN SOMEONE AT THE 26TH YEAR DECIDES THAT, WELL, YOU KNOW, I THINK I'M GOING TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, BUT I'M GOING TO DO IT RIGHT HERE IN THIS ORGANIZATION. I'M GOING TO KEEP GIVING THIS ORGANIZATION THE VALUE OF MY EXPERTISE. SO WE'RE JUST REALLY PLEASED TO HAVE VICTORIA IN THIS ROLE AND SO SHE'S GOING TO COME AND BRING IT FORWARD TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY TO TELL YOU ABOUT ALL THE WORK THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING ON THIS STUDY. THANK YOU, MISS ROSS. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL AND EXECUTIVES. IN CONTINUING OUR ENDEAVOR TO ENSURE THAT OUR EMPLOYEES ARE WELL COMPENSATED IN OUR PAY STRUCTURE IS WELL POSITIONED, THE CITY EMPLOYEES COMPENSATION PLAN IS WELL DEFINED, AND SO FORTH. WE EVALUATED TWO OTHER ASPECTS, TWO OTHER AREAS WE WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU IN ENSURING THAT OUR COMPENSATION STRUCTURE IS WELL POSITIONED. WE LOOKED AT THE PAY STRUCTURE IN TERMS OF SHOULD WE DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN TECHNICAL JOBS AND VERSUS EXEMPT PROFESSIONAL JOBS. OUR CONSULTANTS RECOMMENDED THAT BASED ON THEIR STUDY, THAT FOR TECHNICAL NON EXAM SUPPORT JOBS, THAT WE'RE GOING TO USE A 40% BANDWIDTH. SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS THE MAXIMUM AND THE MINIMUM AMOUNT FOR THEIR SALARY WOULD BE SHORTER. IT'S 40% AS OPPOSED TO A PROFESSIONAL EXEMPT POSITION WHICH IS MANAGEMENT TYPE POSITION. [00:45:07] WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A 50% BANDWIDTH. WHAT THAT ALLOWS IS FOR THE CITY TO HIRE PEOPLE, OFFER A LARGER COMPENSATION PACKAGE DEPENDING ON THEIR EXPERTISE, THEIR EXPERIENCE, EDUCATION AND SO FORTH. ANOTHER IMPORTANT ASPECT THAT WE WILL MAINTAIN IN OUR PAY STRUCTURE IS THE 5%. STEP BETWEEN RANGES, MEANING IF YOU HAVE SOMEONE IN A RANGE AND A HIGHER RANGE OR A LOWER RANGE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE 5% DIFFERENCE. THE REASON FOR THAT IS TO AVOID PAY COMPRESSION AND PAY DISBURSEMENTS. SO PAY COMPRESSION IS WHEN THE PAYS ARE TOO CLOSE OR TOO WIDE. SO A 5% DIFFERENCE APPEARS TO BE A VERY NICE MEASURED APPROACH TO HAVING THIS DESIGN. OKAY. ANOTHER ASPECT WE WANT TO EMPHASIZE TO ENSURE THAT OUR COMPENSATION STRUCTURE IS COMPETITIVE AND THAT OUR EMPLOYEES ARE WELL AND FULLY AND EQUALLY PAID BASED ON THEIR CREDENTIALS AND EXPERIENCE, IS LOOKING AT THE EXTERNAL COMPETITIVENESS OR EXTERNAL MARKETS AT THE CITY OF PLANO. WE ARE LOOKING AT 14 CITIES ACROSS THE METROPLEX. WE PICKED THOSE CITIES SPECIFICALLY BASED ON THEIR SIZE, THEIR POPULATION AND THE COMPLEXITY OF THEIR OPERATIONS. SO WE DIDN'T WANT TO GO TO A CITY THAT HAD A SERVICE THAT THE CITY DIDN'T HAVE, FOR EXAMPLE, AN AIRPORT. YOU KNOW, WE WANTED TO SELECT CITIES THAT ARE WITHIN THE GEOGRAPHIC AREA THAT'S RELEVANT TO PLANO AND THEN WE WANT TO LOOK AT THE DEPTH OF THE SERVICES THEY NEED TO BE COMPETITIVE. WE DIDN'T WANT TO GO TOO SMALL OF A CITY BECAUSE THAT WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE AT ALL. AND OUR EMPLOYEES WOULD NOT BE FULLY OR FAIRLY COMPENSATED BASED ON THE SERVICES THEY'RE PROVIDING. THE 14 CITIES. THE NEXT SLIDE WILL SHOW FOR OUR GENERAL TSPSC AND EXECUTIVE TEAM IS GOING TO BE THE GRAY SLIDE. OKAY. SORRY ABOUT THAT. ALL RIGHT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE LEFT COLUMN, YOU'LL SEE THAT PLANO WILL LOOK AT THE COMPENSATION STRUCTURE FOR ALLEN, ARLINGTON, CARROLLTON, DALLAS, DENTON, FORT WORTH, FRISCO, GARLAND, GRAND PRAIRIE, IRVING, LEWISVILLE, MESQUITE, MCKINNEY AND RICHARDSON. WE DETERMINE WITH OUR CONSULTANTS RECOMMENDATION AS WELL, THAT THOSE CITIES DO HAVE VERY COMPETITIVE AND COMPETITIVE SERVICES THAT TO PLANO AND SO THOSE ARE VALID COMPETITORS THAT WE'LL USE. THE OTHER TWO COLUMNS DEMONSTRATE THE CITIES THAT WE WILL USE FOR FIRE AND POLICE AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT THOSE TWO LISTS ACTUALLY WERE DETERMINED AFTER TALKING TO THE POLICE CHIEF, AFTER TALKING TO THE ASSOCIATION AS WELL AND WE'VE ALL CONCLUDED THAT BASED ON THE COMPLEXITY OF THE WORK AND THE SERVICES, THE OPERATION AND SO FORTH, WE'RE GOING TO USE THOSE CITIES. OKAY. IN ADDITION TO LOOKING AND COMPARING OUR JOBS EXTERNALLY TO OTHER CITIES, WE ARE ALSO GOING TO COMPARE AND EVALUATE OUR POSITIONS INTERNALLY. WHAT THAT MEANS IS SOME POSITIONS FOR OTHER ENTITIES MAY OFFER CERTAIN VALUES, BUT FOR PLANO WITHIN PLANO STRUCTURE AND ORGANIZATION, THAT PARTICULAR POSITION, FOR EXAMPLE, MAY OFFER MORE VALUE. SO IN ADDITION TO LOOKING AT EXTERNAL COMPETITORS OR COMPETITORS, WE WILL ALSO EVALUATE INTERNALLY HOW WE'RE ORGANIZED AND ASSIGN THOSE VALUES BASED ON OUR OPERATIONS AND ORGANIZATION. OKAY. I ALSO WANTED TO ADD, IN ADDITION TO THE PUBLIC ENTITIES THAT WE'RE GOING TO USE, THE 14 ENTITIES THAT WE'RE GOING TO USE. WE'RE ALSO GOING TO ADD IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR MODEL DATABASE, PARTICULARLY FOR IT JOBS, FOR EXAMPLE, WE FOUND THAT IT'S HARDER TO COMPARE. IT POSITIONS WOULD JUST BE BETWEEN AGENCIES. SO WE'RE ALSO GOING TO LOOK AT PRIVATE SECTOR DATABASE TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR EMPLOYEES ARE PAID FAIRLY AND THEY'RE GIVING THEY'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THEIR FULL VALUE FOR THEIR SERVICES GIVEN TO THE CITY. [00:50:03] OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AT THIS POINT, OUR GOAL IS TO MEET WITH THE EXECUTIVE AND THE MANAGEMENT TEAM TO ROLL OUT AND COMMUNICATE OUR PHILOSOPHY, COMPENSATION PHILOSOPHY. WE'LL ASK THE DEPARTMENTS AND LEADERSHIP TO EXPLAIN THE FULL COMPENSATION PACKAGE THAT THE CITY OFFERS TO EMPLOYEES. IT'S NOT JUST THE SALARY OR THE PAY. IT'S THE FULL PACKAGE THAT THE CITY OFFERS EMPLOYEES SUCH AS MEDICAL, DENTAL, JUST ALL THE BENEFITS THAT WE OFFER VACATION, SICK LEAVE THAT OFTEN GETS NOT ACKNOWLEDGED AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE TO PULL ALL THAT IN AS WE COMMUNICATE TO EMPLOYEES AND NEW HIRES. AND WE HR IS WORKING ON THE TOOL WE SHOULD BE ROLLING OUT SHORTLY TO. IF YOU ENTER A SALARY, IT SHOULD TABULATE THE BENEFITS AND ALL THE OTHER MEASURES THAT WILL BE CALCULATED IN AND SO WE CAN PRESENT THAT TO A NEW HIRE SAYING THIS IS YOUR FULL COMPENSATION PACKAGE. IT'S NOT JUST A SALARY THAT'S RELEVANT FOR THEM TO MAKE A DECISION. ANOTHER APPROACH WE'RE GOING TO TAKE IS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A TOOL THAT WE'RE GOING TO PLOT IN JOBS FOR EXISTING POSITIONS, FOR EMPLOYEES THAT WE ARE WITH US RIGHT NOW, AS WELL AS ANY OTHER JOBS AND UPDATES THAT WILL ADD TO THE SYSTEM. SO WHEN WE DO HAVE A HIRE, WE CAN SYSTEMATICALLY ENTER THEIR CREDENTIALS AND WHICH WILL PRODUCE A NUMBER, A SALARY, SO THAT WHAT WE OFFER TO EMPLOYEES ARE MORE SYSTEMATIC AND METHODICAL, AS OPPOSED TO TRYING TO FIND A NUMBER THAT FITS BASED ON THEIR EXPERIENCE AND CREDENTIALS. SO WE'RE HOPING THIS TOOL WILL HELP US TO MAKE OUR COMPENSATION MORE FAIR AND MORE CONSISTENT. EVEN MORE SO. WE'VE BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB AS A CITY IN DOING THAT, BUT I THINK THIS TOOL WILL HELP US TO EXERCISE THAT APPROACH EVEN MORE. WE WILL BE CHANGING POLICIES TO UPDATE OUR POLICIES TO REFLECT THE NEW METHODOLOGY FOR CALCULATING COMPENSATION AND GOING FORWARD. WE WANT DEPARTMENTS TO PARTNER WITH HR, WITH THE COMPENSATION TEAM TO REVIEW THE RESUMES AND THE CREDENTIALS. AGREE ON A DOLLAR AMOUNT TO FOR THE NEW HIRE AND THAT WAY THERE'S CONSISTENCY IN TERMS OF COMPENSATION ACROSS THE CITY. IN SHORT, THE COMPENSATION STUDY HAS BEEN WE'VE BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD TO CONTINUE TO STUDY, AND IT'S A FIRM THAT, AS MISS ROSS SAID, WE'RE IN A VERY WELL POSITION. WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IS GREAT AND IT'S COMPETITIVE COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES SURROUNDING CITIES. SO WE'RE PROUD OF OUR APPROACH. WE'RE PROUD OF OUR PHILOSOPHY AND IF LET'S SEE, THE NEXT SLIDE WILL SHOW THE WHERE WE ARE IN TERMS OF PROJECT TIMELINE. AS MISS ROSS INDICATED, WE STARTED THIS PROJECT LAST YEAR IN MARCH AND WE RECOMMENDED THE REC THE FINAL APPROACH, THE FINAL WAGE DETERMINATION TOOL, THE COMPENSATION POLICY AND RELEVANT PAY STRUCTURES TO THE EXECUTIVE TEAM BACK IN APRIL AND MAY OF THIS YEAR. AT THIS TIME THAT OUR CONSULTANTS CONDUCTING A EXPANDED MARKET STUDY OF ALL THE JOBS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR CITY, WE'RE ALSO ARE ENTERING AND PLOTTING WHERE CURRENT EMPLOYEES MAKE AND THEIR CURRENT SALARIES INTO THIS TOOL SO THAT WE'LL HAVE A COMPLETE DATABASE OF THESE NUMBERS. THIS WILL HELP US DETERMINE THE PAY LEVEL FOR NEW HIRES. IN OCTOBER. IF COUNCIL APPROVES, THERE MAY BE ACROSS THE BOARD INCREASE. THAT'S SUBJECT TO BUDGET APPROVAL, OF COURSE, AND AS A RESULT OF OUR WORKING WITH THIS TOOL, IF THERE IS A NECESSARY ADJUSTMENT TO ANY ONE POSITION, THEIR PAY AND SO FORTH WILL BE LOOKING AT THAT EARLY NEXT YEAR. WE WILL ALSO BE LOOKING AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY PAY STRUCTURES AND THEIR CERTIFICATION, AND DETERMINE WHERE THAT FITS IN THE TOTALITY OF AS RELATED TO COMPENSATION. WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THE ON CALL AND CERTIFICATION PAY PRACTICES AS WELL AND WE'LL BE CONDUCTING A LOT OF TRAINING AND EDUCATION FOR THE PLANO TEAM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE APPLY THIS PHILOSOPHY AND APPROACH UNIFORMLY ACROSS THE CITY. [00:55:06] AND LASTLY, WE'LL MONITOR AND MAINTAIN COMPETITIVE TOTAL COMPENSATION FOR THIS METHOD, THIS APPROACH FOR ATTRACTING AND RETAINING QUALITY AND TOP TALENT FOR THE CITY. ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. VICTORIA. OKAY. VERY GOOD. YEAH. ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS. HEY THAT'S REALLY AMAZING AND WE'RE REALLY JUST SO PROUD TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL OUR EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO, TO STAY HERE FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME AND THIS GIVES THEM THOSE TOOLS TO WANT TO STAY AND SO I APPRECIATE BEING SO PROGRESSIVE ABOUT IT AND STILL MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE COMPETITIVE IN EVERY ASPECT OF IT. SO I APPRECIATE THAT SO MUCH. THANK YOU. OKAY. NEXT ITEM IS RETAIL REVITALIZATION PROGRAM UPDATE. PETER? GOOD EVENING. PETER BRASSEUR, DIRECTOR OF SPECIAL PROJECTS. WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON HOW FAR WE'VE COME SINCE WE PASSED A NEW POLICY IN EARLY FEBRUARY. AS JUST AS A REMINDER, OUR PHILOSOPHY, SORRY, IS THAT THIS IS THESE GRANTS ARE SUPPOSED TO MAKE THINGS BETTER AND AUGMENT WHAT A LANDLORD OR A PROPERTY OWNER IS GOING TO DO. THIS ISN'T TO TAKE PLACE OF THINGS LIKE PROPERTY STANDARDS, VIOLATIONS. WE'RE NOT PAYING FOR THOSE. THESE ARE ACTUALLY THINGS TO MAKING IT BETTER AND REALLY, IT IS ABOUT UPPING THE ANTE. HERE'S A PICTURE OF SOMETHING WE'VE DONE THAT IS CERTAINLY A BIG CHANGE TO PLANO. BUT THESE ARE THE TYPE OF GRANTS THAT WE DO HAVE. IN FACT, TODAY I WAS TALKING TO A PROPERTY OWNER ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF OF PARKER AND CUSTER AND I THINK IF YOU'VE ALL DRIVEN BY THAT ONE AND SO THEY ARE LOOKING TO IMPROVE IT, AND OF COURSE, EVERYTHING THEY WANTED TO DO OTHER THAN LOCATION GRANT WAS EXACT AND LEAST BIDEN'S WAS EXACTLY WHAT THE PROJECT ENTAILED. SO WE PROBABLY SHOULD BE BRINGING THAT SOON TO YOU PROBABLY THIS SUMMER. BUT I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU THAT THESE ARE WORKING IN THE SENSE THAT WE ARE GETTING PEOPLE COMING IN AND THE BREADTH OF THESE TYPE OF GRANTS IS FITTING, BUT I WANTED TO ASK IF ANY OF YOU HAD ANY IDEAS THAT YOU WANTED TO EXPAND ON ANY OF THESE SINCE WE'VE BEEN SITTING WITH THIS POLICY FOR A FEW MONTHS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I THINK A FEW MEETINGS AGO, I HAD ASKED TO PUT AN ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA TO DISCUSS CHANGES OF USE. THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL RATHER THAN JUST REVITALIZING OLDER RETAIL INTO NEWER, MORE UPDATED RETAIL. SINCE WE HAVE TOO MANY SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL IN THE CITY OF PLANO, YOU KNOW, THE KIND OF THE FOUR CORNER RETAIL PROBLEM THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A LOT LOOKING AT CHANGES OF USE, OBVIOUSLY, ONES THAT WOULD BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE LAND USES ENVISIONED BY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. BUT WHERE THERE COULD BE A BENEFICIAL CHANGE OF USE. I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT ADDED IN HERE. YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN HELP SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, TAKE RETAIL SQUARE FOOTAGE OFF THE BOOKS THAT MAYBE IS NOT NEEDED IN 2024 AND HAVE A MORE BENEFICIAL USE AND AS PART OF THAT ALSO DIVERSIFYING LAND USES BECAUSE BACK IN THE 1980S YOU COULDN'T HAVE TOO MUCH RETAIL. RIGHT AND I'M SURE THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE COULD CHANGE USES TO TODAY THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE TOO MUCH OF IN 2024. BUT I THINK TO BE A FORWARD THINKING COUNCIL, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE A FOUR CORNER ANYTHING PROBLEM IN 2050 AND SO I THINK A DIVERSITY OF LAND USES THROUGHOUT THE CITY IS GOOD AND SO ALSO AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, ONE THIS SHOULD BE PART AGAIN OF THE DIVERSIFYING OF USES, BUT ONE TYPE OF LAND USE THAT I THINK COULD BE BENEFICIAL WHERE THE INFRASTRUCTURE EXISTS THAT WOULD SUPPORT THESE CONVERSIONS IS CONVERSION TO DATA CENTER, BECAUSE THAT'S A USE THAT I THINK GENERALLY DOES. YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF GROWING AND COMPLIES WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN THE SENSE THAT A LOT OF TIMES, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A TREMENDOUS IMPACT ON THE ELECTRICAL GRID, BUT NOT MUCH OF AN IMPACT ON TRAFFIC OR DENSITY, YOU KNOW, DOESN'T NECESSARILY BRING A TON OF PEOPLE IN, BUT IT BRINGS A LOT TO THE TAX BASE AND, AND COULD REPURPOSE, YOU KNOW, SOME OLDER KIND OF LARGE STRUCTURES. SO THOSE ARE TWO THINGS I WANTED TO PUT OUT THERE THAT COULD BECOME PART OF THIS POLICY. IF I MAY, I, MAY I THE IF IT'S SAY, USE YOUR EXAMPLE, A DATA CENTER THAT WANTS TO GO INTO RETAIL SPACE. I BELIEVE OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT POLICY THAT DOUG MCDONNELL JUST IMPLEMENTED LAST YEAR WOULD SORT OF FIT THAT. I DON'T KNOW THAT IT NEEDS TO SAY RETAIL ON THAT POLICY FOR IT TO BE DONE FOR LIKE A DATA CENTER. WE CERTAINLY CAN MAKE IT EXPLICIT IF YOU'D LIKE, BUT I'M NOT SO SURE THAT WE NEED TO BE THERE WITH THIS POLICY. [01:00:06] I THINK IT ALL SORT OF FITS. THAT BEING SAID, WE CAN ALSO TAILOR IT, WHICH WE WOULD BRING TO YOU FOR THAT DEAL. SO I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYTHING THAT WE HAVE PRECLUDES THAT FROM HAPPENING. GOTCHA. AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THIS IS NOT NEEDED AND IT'S COVERED BY OTHER THINGS. I WAS JUST THINKING, ESPECIALLY ON THAT FIRST ONE, THAT'S REALLY THE BIG ONE, JUST CHANGES OF USE IN GENERAL, BECAUSE I THINK THE WAY THAT WE HAVE THE RESOLUTION WE PASSED ABOUT THIS, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, I DON'T KNOW THAT I THINK THERE WAS SOME MAYBE MENTION OF A CHANGE OF USE IN THERE, BUT I'D LOVE TO JUST MAKE IT EXPLICIT THAT WE'RE NOT JUST LOOKING AT TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE FIX UP THEIR OLDER RETAIL INTO NEWER RETAIL. BUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE AN IDEA TO CHANGE YOUR OLDER RETAIL INTO SOMETHING THAT'S NOT RETAIL AT ALL, THAT WE'D BE INTERESTED IN MAYBE HELPING TO FACILITATE THAT IF THE, YOU KNOW, IF THE TAX REVENUE NUMBERS MAKE SENSE AND COUNCILMAN, I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHAT PETER MENTIONED. IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A BLEND BETWEEN THE RETAIL REVITALIZATION, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND A REZONING PROCESS. OKAY. BUT I THINK THAT MAYBE PART OF THAT IS HAVING SOMETHING EXPLICIT FROM COUNCIL. MAYBE WE COULD DISCUSS THIS DURING THE STRATEGIC RETREAT TO SAY THAT THE COUNCIL IS INTERESTED IN A REPURPOSING, REVISIONING FOR SOME OF THE FOUR CORNER RETAIL INTO YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT USES AND I THINK THAT IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION COUNCIL WANTS TO GO, WE CERTAINLY CAN MAKE THAT KNOWN, THAT WE ARE OPEN TO THAT. BUT I THINK PART OF THE DISCUSSION ALSO HAS TO BE IS WHAT YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH AND MAYBE WHAT YOU'RE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH. BECAUSE THE OWNERS MAY HAVE A SPECIFIC VISION FOR WHERE THEY WANT TO GO THAT AFFECTS THE BOTTOM LINE. SO AND DON'T FORGET THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. NEVER FORGET THE COMPREHENSIVE. YEAH. SO I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF REPURPOSING TO NEW USES. I WOULD ALSO LIKE IN THAT TO SEE AND I KNOW WE HAVE LANDSCAPING, WHICH COULD BE VERY BROAD, BUT I WOULD LIKE IF SOMEBODY IS GOING TO REPURPOSE THEIR SPACE, IF THERE WAS A INCENTIVE PROVIDED FOR SOMEBODY TO OFFER MORE EITHER PATIO SPACE OR PLACEMAKING, PUBLIC GATHERING SPACE, ARTWORK, MORE YOU KNOW, OUTDOOR GATHERING SPACE, PARK SPACE, THINGS LIKE THAT. A LITTLE BIT BROADER THAN JUST LANDSCAPING BECAUSE I HEAR LANDSCAPING AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, BUSHES. YEAH. I'M THINKING SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIAL THAN. YEAH, I WHEN I WAS WRITING THIS, I WAS THINKING THOSE SAME THINGS. EXACTLY. SO I THOUGHT IN MY MIND IT WAS UNDER PAVING BECAUSE IN THE END IT'S ALL HARDSCAPE. SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT YOU MENTIONED. SO FACADE IMPROVEMENTS, I THINK ALL OF THAT ALREADY IS THERE AND MAY NOT BE EXPLICIT, BUT IT WOULD CERTAINLY FIT IN THOSE CATEGORIES. [INAUDIBLE]. SO THIS SOUNDS A LITTLE BIT MORE. YEAH WE CAN DO THAT. [INAUDIBLE] EXCITING. PAVEMENT AND BUSHES. WE CAN DO THAT. PAVEMENT AND BUSHES AREN'T EXCITING I'LL PASS. THEY WERE TODAY. BUT I DO THINK COUNCIL THAT ADDING THAT TO THE STRATEGIC GOAL WOULD GIVE US THE DIRECTION THAT WE NEED TO HAVE THAT LATITUDE AND TO BRING STUFF BACK. BUT IT ALSO GIVES US PERMISSION TO ENGAGE SOME OWNERS IN CONVERSATIONS THAT PREVIOUSLY WE'VE KIND OF WAITED FOR THEM TO COME TO US. THIS MIGHT GIVE US THE DIRECTION TO GO TO THEM. WELL, WHAT I'M THINKING ABOUT HERE IS LIKE WHAT WE'RE SEEING THESE TIRED NEIGHBORHOOD CORNERS IS THE ISSUE IS WE'RE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE ACROSS THE THRESHOLDS OF THEIR RETAIL STORES. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE HERE IS WE HAVE A LOT OF GREAT DESERTS OUT THERE. WE GOT A LOT OF PARKING THAT'S UNDERUTILIZED AND SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT LANDSCAPING AND WE'RE SAYING WE'RE HELPING WITH PAVING, I'M SAYING DO AWAY WITH THAT PARKING AND HELP THE DEVELOPERS HELP THE OWNERS HERE SAY, WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO HELP YOU GET MORE PEOPLE ACROSS YOUR THRESHOLD. AND SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE, DO WE SORT OF LOOK AT THAT? BUSINESS DESIGN THAT WE HAD IN OUR COMP PLAN TO COMBINE RETAIL ON THE FIRST FLOOR, RESIDENTIAL ABOVE THE SECOND FLOOR, HAVE MORE PATIOS ON THE OUTSIDE TO WHERE THERE'S THESE SMALL CORNERS BECOME ACTIVITY CENTERS THAT PEOPLE CAN GO AND VISIT AND WALK AROUND AND ENJOY THOSE CORNERS. I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT. THE GOOD NEWS IS A RECENT CHANGE TO THE PARKING ORDINANCE ALLOWS US TO REDUCE PARKING AND SO THAT WOULD OPEN THAT SPACE, THOSE SPACES UP TO MORE LANDSCAPING, LANDSCAPE ISLANDS, PATIOS AND ALL THOSE OTHER KIND OF THINGS. SO WE'RE SORT OF GOING THAT WAY WITH THE BACK, THE OTHER UNDERLYING ORDINANCES WHERE THEN WE CAN PUT THESE GRANTS INTO PLACE TO DO EXACTLY THAT. I'VE TOLD MARK THIS A HUNDRED TIMES, BUT. THIS IS 101. BUT I REALLY THINK PEOPLE UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF A SMALL GREEN TURF AREA. YOU'RE RIGHT. ESPECIALLY ON A DAY LIKE TODAY WHEN IT'S BEEN RAINING, IT'S MUDDY. [01:05:03] I MEAN, PEOPLE FLOCK TO TURF WHEN THEY CAN JUST LET THEIR KIDS RUN AROUND AND THEY CAN SIT SOMEWHERE AND NOT HAVE TO MANAGE THEM, AND THEY CAN HAVE A DRINK, AND THEIR KIDS FIND OTHER KIDS AND THROW A FOOTBALL, AND IT'S JUST TURF AND I'M LIKE, IT'S NOT THAT HARD TO CONVERT. A CONCRETE AREA TO TURF, AND WE DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH OF THAT IN OUR CITY. PLACES WHERE YOU CAN RUN ON TURF. WE HAVE WONDERFUL PARKS. WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TURF, THOUGH. I THINK THE GREAT EXAMPLE OF THAT IS, OF COURSE, ASSEMBLY PARK, WHERE THEY PUT IN THAT ACRE OF TURF AND IT WAS MADE IT REALLY SPECIAL. PETER, GOT A QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU AND WE MAY INCORPORATE THIS INTO OUR GRANT PROGRAM, BUT. FOR INSTANCE, FACADE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE DOING WITH SOME OF THE. I SEE SOME ARE GOING ON THERE, BUT DO WE ALSO REQUIRE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS OR INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S IN GOOD SHAPE BECAUSE TO ME, IT'S KIND OF SILLY TO PUT MONEY AND WE HELP WE PUT MONEY INTO DOING A REALLY NICE, FANCY LOOK ON THE FRONT OF THE FACILITY. BUT IF THE ROOFS LEAK FOR 15 YEARS AND THEY'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING ABOUT THAT, OR THE HVAC SYSTEMS DON'T WORK, THAT YOU HAVE A FANCY PLACE, IT LOOKS GOOD, BUT INSIDE NOTHING'S REALLY CHANGED OR ARE WE LOOKING AT THAT AS WE GO TO BE SURE THAT THE PROJECTS ARE GETTING COMPLETED? YEAH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE OVERALL PROJECT WHERE WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT ABOUT 10%. I DON'T THINK THESE GRANTS SHOULD GO TO BASIC LANDLORD RESPONSIBILITIES BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. BUT I THINK IF THAT'S PART OF THE OVERALL PROJECT, WE WOULD CERTAINLY ENCOURAGE THAT AND SAY, HEY, YOU'RE DOING ALL THIS. WE CAN GIVE YOU MORE TO MAKE IT PRETTIER ON THE OUTSIDE, RIGHT? WELL, YEAH. MY THOUGHT WAS, IS THAT I ASSUME AS WE'RE TALKING TO YOU ABOUT THE GRANTS THEY'RE MAKING, THE APPLICATIONS THAT WE ACTUALLY REVIEW AND LOOK AT THE PHYSICAL PLANT THAT IF, YOU KNOW, WE SEE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, INFRASTRUCTURE WISE AREN'T REALLY THE WAY THAT THEY SHOULD BE. PERHAPS WE SUGGEST THAT THEY DO THAT, AND THEN THEY COME BACK TO US FOR THE GRANT, OR WE PROVIDE A GRANT TO DO THAT, AND THEN THEY PAY. SO, TO BE SURE THAT WE REALLY GET A TOTALLY REVAMPED, YOU KNOW, RETAIL OR OTHER USE SPACE, YOU KNOW, OUT OF THIS PROGRAM. YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT. OKAY. GREAT. THANKS. YOU'RE WELCOME. ALL RIGHT. A FEW MORE SLIDES. OH, YOU GOT I DO BECAUSE WE'RE IMPLEMENTING THE PROGRAM. SO I WANTED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT. SO WE'VE IDENTIFIED 84 CENTERS ACTUALLY THAT MEET ABOUT SEVEN ACRES OR MORE. WE HAVE DOUG'S TEAM HAS HELPED ME DO A MAILER. SO WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT OUT NEXT MONTH AND HAVE THEM AS WELL AROUND CITY HALL, SO WE CAN HAND THEM OUT WITH INFORMATION WHERE PEOPLE CAN EASILY DO THAT. WE'VE ALREADY BEEN DOING OUTREACH SEVERAL PLACES IN THE PRESS. I'VE, IN FACT, ON A PANEL TALKING ABOUT JUST THIS AT ULI, WHAT'S NEW AND WHAT'S NEXT NEXT MONTH. SO WE'RE CONSTANTLY OUT THERE TALKING ABOUT IT TO THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AND BROKERS, BECAUSE ALL MOST EVERY SHOPPING CENTER HAS A BROKER ATTACHED TO IT AND THEN OF COURSE, THE TEAM PLANO APPROACH. I CAN'T DO IT ALL BY MYSELF AND NOT EVERYBODY COMES THROUGH MY DOOR. SO WE'RE GOING TO INVOLVE EVERYBODY WHO HAS ANY TOUCHES OF A RETAIL CENTER. SO THEY KNOW AND IN FACT, THAT'S HOW I ENDED UP TALKING TO THIS GENTLEMAN TODAY WAS IT CAME THROUGH PLANNING. SO WE'RE ALL IN TUNE AND I THINK WE'RE ALL AS TEAM PLANO WANTING TO GET THIS DONE AND WE ALL UNDERSTAND THE NEED OF IT. SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THAT WHOLE APPROACH AS WELL. THAT'S MY PRESENTATION. THANKS, PETER. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. WE HAVE TEN MINUTES TILL SEVEN, BUT WE'RE GOING TO RUN. RUN THROUGH THIS AND SEE THE BEST WE CAN DO. ANTHONY. SO HANG IN THERE. SO SOUNDS LIKE A PLAN. NEXT ITEM DISCUSSION DIRECTION AND THE USE OF HOTEL MOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX FOR GRANTS AND EVENTS. TURN YOUR MIC ON. GOOD EVENING AGAIN. THE CITY COUNCIL, AT THE LAST MEETING WE HAD BROUGHT UP THAT WE COULD UTILIZE 15% OF HOT TAXES, WHICH WAS EQUAL TO $2.2 MILLION FOR THE ARTS AND FOR HERITAGE PRESERVATION GRANTS. AT THAT MEETING, THE CITY COUNCIL, SEVERAL OF YOU ALL ASKED, HEY, ON SOME OF THESE SPECIFIC EVENTS, CAN WE NOT UTILIZE THE HOT TAX INSTEAD OF PROVIDING IT THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND? SO WE GOT SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS TOGETHER ALL THAT UTILIZED HOT TAX, INCLUDING THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, LEGAL VISIT, PLANO PARKS AND REC, AND MICHELLE HAWKINS WITH HER INTERCONNECTIVITY TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA. THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE COME UP WITH. THE STAFF RECOMMENDED 2425 IF YOU LOOK TO THE RIGHT ON THE HERITAGE, GO DOWN TO THE YELLOW. [01:10:02] SPECIFICALLY WAS ASKED ABOUT THE ASIA FEST, PLANO INTERNATIONAL FESTIVAL, DICKENS MACAULAY PLAZA, TEXAS FOREVER FESTIVAL, AND THE RIP HALLOWEEN FESTIVAL. IT WAS THE OPINION OF THE GROUP THAT WE GOT TOGETHER THAT WE COULD UTILIZE THE HOT TAXES TO PROVIDE THESE EVENTS. THESE EVENTS SPECIFICALLY ARE HELD IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. THEY ALSO HAVE DISTANCE, I MEAN ACCESSIBILITY TO DOWNTOWN HISTORIC DISTRICT, THE SAILING HOUSE, AND THE INTERURBAN MUSEUM. ACCORDING TO THE STATUTE, STANDARDS THAT ARE USED ARE LOCATION AND HISTORIC AREA AND A LINK TO DESIGNATED HERITAGE DISTRICT OR PROPERTY AND ALSO ADVERTISING IS OUTSIDE OF A 50 MILE RADIUS. WE ARE UTILIZING VISIT PLANO AND THE INTERNET TO ADVERTISE A LOT OF THE EVENTS THAT WE HAVE GOING ON HERE AT THE CITY OF PLANO. SO IT WAS THIS GROUP THAT IS RECOMMENDING WE MOVE THOSE PARTICULAR ONES OUT OF EITHER THE ARTS FUNDING OR GENERAL FUND AND MOVE IT UNDER THE HERITAGE SIDE. ALSO, WE WENT THROUGH IN THE MIDDLE SECTION, YOU WILL SEE THE PLANO FLAGS OF HONOR, THE ROTARY PARADE'S MLK CELEBRATION, ALL THESE, WE COULD NOT MOVE THEM OVER. THEY WERE NOT HELD IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA OR DID NOT HAVE ANY KIND OF TOURISM PROPONENT TO IT. I ALSO, I THINK ONE OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS HAD ASKED ABOUT THE CHAMBERLAIN BALLET. THEY RUN OUR SUMMER ARTS PROGRAM. THAT SUMMER ARTS PROGRAM IS FOR CHILDREN THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH TOURISM WHATSOEVER AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE REMAINED THE FUNDING FOR THE GENERAL FUND. SO WHAT QUESTIONS DO YOU HAVE? WE FEEL LIKE WE DID HAVE LEGAL THERE. WE DO FEEL LIKE WE COULD MOVE THESE EVENTS. SO MAYOR AND COUNCIL, AS YOU KNOW WE GOT ANOTHER INQUIRY OVER THE WEEKEND FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS ABOUT THE SOME LEGAL QUESTIONS ABOUT USE OF THE FUNDS AND WE REISSUED A NEW ADVICE TODAY THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED CONFIDENTIALLY. SO I'M NOT SURE THAT I AGREE WITH KAREN'S STATEMENTS AS STRONGLY AS THEY'RE BEING MADE. IT REALLY IS JUST ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW WE GO ABOUT SHOWING THAT THE HEADS ARE EMBEDS AND WE'VE HAD SOME ROBUST DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT. ANTHONY. THANK YOU MAYOR. SO IN KEEPING WITH IT BEING 654, I'LL JUST SAY I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT THE STAFF HAS DONE ON THIS. IN KEEPING WITH COUNCIL DIRECTION, I LIKE THE CHANGES THAT ARE PROPOSED IN THE STAFF. RECOMMENDED 2425 ARTS AND HERITAGE FUNDING AND I WOULD SUGGEST WE GO THAT DIRECTION. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? I WAS GOING TO SAY THE SAME THING. I THINK THEY'VE DONE A LOT OF GOOD WORK. KAREN, CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR STAFF AND LET'S GIVE IT A GO. I ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT. SO I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE GRAY AREAS, BUT I'VE BEEN AROUND LONG ENOUGH TO KNOW VISITORS COME TO THOSE EVENTS. SO THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCIL WE'LL MOVE FORWARD. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU I CAN DO THIS. OKAY, HERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ITEM IS COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS TO VARIOUS BOARDS, COMMISSIONS, COMMITTEES AND ORGANIZATIONS. SO COUNCIL LIAISONS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. SO I WILL JUST ACTUALLY, I'LL START HERE. THE CITY COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS TO VARIOUS COMMITTEES AND ORGANIZATIONS. SO THE AIRPORT MASTER PLANNING ADVISORY COMMITTEE. YOU READY, LISA? RICK HORNE, COLLIN COUNTY MAYOR'S COMMITTEE. THAT'S ME. COUNCIL. LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE. MAYOR MUNS. DEPUTY MAYOR TWO AND JULIE HOLMER. DALLAS REGIONAL MOBILITY COALITION, MYSELF THE METROPLEX MAYORS COMMITTEE. MYSELF AND DEPUTY MAYOR TWO. NORTH TEXAS COMMISSION MYSELF. PLANO HEALTH FACILITIES DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, KAYCI PRINCE MAYOR PRO TEM FOR 2025 AND THEN FOR 2026 WOULD BE RICK HORNE AND JULIE HOLMER. REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COUNCIL, RTC, MYSELF AND DEPUTY MAYOR TU EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS PLANNING [01:15:10] COUNCIL, RICK SMITH AND ANTHONY RICCIARDELLI AS THE ALTERNATE BOARD AND COMMISSION REVIEW COMMITTEE. DEPUTY MAYOR TU, MAYOR PRO TEM PRINCE, AND RICK SMITH. COMMUNITY FINANCE. ANTHONY RICCIARDELLI. SHELBY WILLIAMS, JOINT PISD COUNCIL COMMITTEE. JULIE HOLMER AND MAYOR PRO TEM PRINCE. AD HOC ROUNDTABLE TASK FORCE SUBCOMMITTEES, THE MULTICULTURAL OUTREACH ROUNDTABLE, MARIA TU AND JULIE HOLMER AND ON THE LIAISONS TO THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ANIMAL SHELTER ADVISORY COMMITTEE. MAYOR PRO TEM PRINCE AND JULIE HOLMER. BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT. RICK HORNE. ANTHONY RICCIARDELLI. BUILDING STANDARDS COMMISSION. ANTHONY RICCIARDELLI AND SHELBY WILLIAMS. CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION CITY MANAGER ISRAELSON, COLLIN COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT BOARD. SHELBY WILLIAMS AND RICK HORNE. COMMUNITY RELATIONS COMMISSION. MAYOR PRO TEM PRINCE AND RICK SMITH. CULTURAL AFFAIRS COMMISSION. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM TU AND JULIE HOLMER. THE DART BOARD OF DIRECTORS, WHICH WILL REQUIRE A RESOLUTION BY THE COUNCIL ON JUNE 24TH. HERITAGE COMMISSION. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM TU AND ANTHONY RICCIARDELLI LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD. JULIE HOLMER AND MAYOR PRO TEM PRINCE. NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT BOARD BILL DIRE FOR 2025 AND RON KELLY IN 2026. PARKS AND REC PLANNING BOARD, JULIE HOLMER AND RICK HORNE, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MAYOR PRO TEM PRINCE AND DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM TU. PLANO HOUSING AUTHORITY, ANTHONY RICCIARDELLI AND SHELBY WILLIAMS. RETIREMENT SECURITY PLAN COMMITTEE. CITY MANAGER. SENIOR ADVISORY BOARD. JULIE HOLMER AND RICK SMITH. TAX INCREMENT FINANCING REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER TWO AND NUMBER THREE BOARDS RICK SMITH AND SHELBY WILLIAMS. TAX INCREMENT FINANCING REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER FOUR, BOARD DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM TU AND ANTHONY RICCIARDELLI AND TAX INCREMENT FINANCING REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER FIVE. RICK HORNE AND RICK SMITH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.