>> WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR REGULAR MEETING.
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I WILL START WITH A PROCLAMATION.[
Proclamation: April is National Volunteer Month, recognizing the impact volunteers have on their communities.
]IT IS NATIONAL VOLUNTEER MONTH.
WHEREAS VOLUNTEERS IN PLANO ENGAGES VOLUNTEERS REPRESENTATIVE OF THE RICH DIVERSITY OF OUR COMMUNITY, FROM SCOUTS TO OLDER ADULTS AND FROM LIFELONG RESIDENTS TO NEW ARRIVALS, ALL WHO PARTICIPATE IN SERVICE TO BETTER PLANO.
WHEREAS VOLUNTEERS ENHANCE SERVICES PROVIDED TO CITY OF PLANO RESIDENTS AND EXTEND CAPACITY OF CITY DEPARTMENTS.
WHEREAS VOLUNTEERS GIVE THEIR TIME AND TALENTS TO THE MANY WONDERFUL COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS IN PLANO TO CONTRIBUTE TO A VIBRANT, HEALTHY AND STRONGER COMMUNITY.
WHEREAS 6,761 DEDICATED VOLUNTEERS SERVE 78,069 HOURS WITH THE CITY OF PLANO IN 2023.
WHEREAS NATIONAL VOLUNTEER MONTH TAKES PLACE EACH YEAR TO CELEBRATE THE IMPACT OF VOLUNTEER SERVICE AND THE POWER OF VOLUNTEERS TO TACKLE SOCIETY'S GREAT CHALLENGES TO BUILD STRONGER COMMUNITIES AND BE A FORCE THAT TRANSFORMS THE WORLD.
NOW, THEREFORE, I KAYCI PRINCE ON BEHALF OF JOHN B MUNS MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PLANO, TEXAS, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM APRIL 2024 AS NATIONAL VOLUNTEER MONTH IN PLANO, AND I DO HEREBY ENCOURAGE CITIZENS TO JOIN ME AND THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL IN HONORING AND THANKING ALL WHO VOLUNTEER, ESPECIALLY IN OUR CITY OF EXCELLENCE.
THANK YOU TO ANY OF YOU OUT HERE WHO VOLUNTEER IN OUR CITY.
PLEASE STAND UP IF YOU'RE A VOLUNTEER.
WE APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU DO TO MAKE OUR CITY WONDERFUL.
WE COULDN'T DO IT WITHOUT ALL OF OUR WONDERFUL VOLUNTEERS.
WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA.
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>> THE CONSENT AGENDA WILL BE ACTED UPON IN ONE MOTION AND CONTAINS ITEMS WHICH ARE ROUTINE AND TYPICALLY NONCONTROVERSIAL.
ITEMS MAY BE REMOVED FROM THIS AGENDA FOR INDIVIDUAL DISCUSSION BY A COUNCIL MEMBER, THE CITY MANAGER, OR ANY CITIZEN.
THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL ESTABLISH TIME LIMITS BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKER REQUESTS.
>> MADAM MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED.
>> ALL IN FAVOR? THAT PASSES 7-0.
NEXT, WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA, ITEM NUMBER 1.
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Public Hearing and consideration of an Ordinance as requested in Zoning Case 2024-008 to amend Article 8 (Definitions), Article 14 (Allowed Uses and Use Classifications), Article 15 (Use-specific Regulations), and related sections of the Zoning Ordinance of the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance of the City, Ordinance No. 2015-5-2, as heretofore amended, to extend or repeal the interim ban of short-term rentals and permanently regulate short-term rentals and related land uses, including associated development regulations; and providing a penalty clause, a repealer clause, a savings clause, a severability clause, a publication clause, and an effective date. Petitioner: City of Plano
]>> PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. APPLICANTS ARE LIMITED TO 15 MINUTES PRESENTATION TIME WITH A FIVE MINUTE REBUTTAL IF NEEDED.
REMAINING SPEAKERS ARE LIMITED TO 30 TOTAL MINUTES OF TESTIMONY TIME WITH THREE MINUTES ASSIGNED PER SPEAKER.
THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY AMEND THESE TIMES AS DEEMED NECESSARY.
NON PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL PERMIT PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, NOT POSTED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
PRESIDING OFFICER WILL ESTABLISH TIME LIMITS BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKER REQUESTS TO ENSURE A MEETING EFFICIENCY AND MAY INCLUDE A CUMULATIVE TIME LIMIT.
SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER THE REQUESTS ARE RECEIVED UNTIL THE CUMULATIVE TIME IS EXHAUSTED.
>> I'LL READ IT FROM THE AGENDA. SORRY ALL.
ITEM NUMBER 1, PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE, AS REQUESTED IN ZONING CASE 2024-8 TO AMEND ARTICLE 8 DEFINITIONS, ARTICLE 14 ALLOWED USES AND USE CLASSIFICATIONS, ARTICLE 15 USE SPECIFIC REGULATIONS, AND RELATED SECTIONS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY ORDINANCE NUMBER 2015-5-2 AS HERETOFORE AMENDED.
TO EXTEND OR REPEAL THE INTERIM BAND, ON SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND PERMANENTLY REGULATE SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND REGULATED LAND USES, INCLUDING ASSOCIATED DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AND PROVIDING A PENALTY CLAUSE, A REPEALER CLAUSE, A SAVINGS CLAUSE, A SEVER ABILITY CLAUSE, A PUBLICATION CLAUSE, AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
>> GOOD EVENING. I'M CHRISTINA DAY, THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING, AND I WILL BE SPEAKING ON THE ZONING CASE 2024-008, WHICH IS AN AMENDMENT PROPOSED REGARDING SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
I DO HAVE A LOT OF SLIDES HERE.
JUST TO MAKE SURE ALL THE INFORMATION IS COVERED, I'M GOING TO MOVE FAIRLY QUICKLY THROUGH, BUT IF AT ANY POINT, WE NEED TO GO BACK AND REFERENCE ANYTHING, THE INFORMATION SHOULD BE THERE.
AS YOU ALL ARE ACUTELY AWARE, WE HAVE BEEN CONDUCTING A SHORT-TERM RENTAL STUDY.
IT WAS INITIATED BY THE COUNCIL IN NOVEMBER OF 2022, AND WE ARE EFFECTIVELY AT THE END OF THAT PROCESS,
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WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT PERMANENT MEASURES THIS EVENING.I WANT TO TOUCH ON THE AMOUNT OF OUTREACH THAT'S BEEN DONE THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL TASK FORCE WAS APPOINTED BY THIS COUNCIL.
TWENTY TWO PLANO RESIDENTS WERE APPOINTED.
THEY HELD SIX MEETINGS OVER NINE MONTHS.
ADDITIONALLY, THERE WERE TWO OPEN HOUSES THAT HAD EXTENSIVE PARTICIPATION, 2,000 PARTICIPANTS IN AUGUST OF '23, AND 1,200 PARTICIPANTS IN FEBRUARY OF '24.
THAT INCLUDES AN ONLINE PARTICIPATION AS WELL AS IN PERSON.
THEN WE ALSO CONDUCTED A COMMUNITY SURVEY WITH OVER 6,000 RESPONSES.
OUTREACH, WE WORKED AS HARD AS POSSIBLE TO USE MULTIPLE MEDIUMS FOR OUTREACH TO THE COMMUNITY.
WE HAD A PROJECT WEBSITE THROUGHOUT THE TENURE OF THE PROJECT THAT'S STILL ALIVE NOW, WWW.
ADDITIONALLY, FOR THE SURVEY, WE DID SIGNS IN PARKS AND AT REC CENTERS, OTHER CITY FACILITIES.
WE USED THE CITY'S NEWSLETTERS TO SPREAD THE WORD ON ISSUES RELATED TO THIS PROJECT.
YOU SEE YOUTUBE, FACEBOOK, INSTAGRAM, AND NEXTDOOR THROUGH THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT.
FINALLY, WE ALSO ISSUED PRESS RELEASES FOR OUR EVENTS AND HAD A GOOD TURNOUT WITH BOTH PRINT AND TELEVISION NEWS COVERAGE FOR THOSE EVENTS.
WHAT WERE THE STUDY OUTCOMES? THE STUDY INCLUDED FOUR DIFFERENT TYPES OF OUTCOMES.
THERE WERE A SET SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO LAND USE AND ZONING THAT INCLUDED NINE.
I'M JUST BRIEFLY SHOWING THOSE, BUT I'LL BE RELATING THOSE TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE PROCESS HERE IN JUST A MOMENT.
ZONING PROCESS, WE DID ADDITIONAL OUTREACH.
WE WERE REQUIRED BY THE LAW TO DO A NEWSPAPER NOTICE.
WE ALSO SENT CITY WIDE POSTCARDS THAT WAS SENT TO ALL PLANO ADDRESSES, AS WELL AS ALL OWNERS OUTSIDE PLANO.
THOSE WERE DELIVERED APPROXIMATELY MARCH 22ND.
MARCH 4TH, THEY LOOKED AT THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL PHASE 2 REPORT, THE FINAL REPORT AT A TASK FORCE.
A PUBLIC HEARING WAS CALLED, AND WE DID TOUCH ON THE BASIC CONCEPTS FOR AN ORDINANCE THAT EVENING.
FAST FORWARD TO THE NEXT MEETING, MARCH 18TH, WE DISCUSSED SPECIFIC DRAFT ZONING AMENDMENTS.
THE COMMISSION PROVIDED DIRECTION THAT ELIMINATED THE CONCEPT OF LIMITED AND SEASONAL RENTAL AND A TWO NIGHT MINIMUM FOR LIVE-IN MANAGEMENT.
THEN FINALLY, ON APRIL 1ST, WE HELD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERED THREE OPTIONS OF THE COMMISSION.
THEY ELIMINATED THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN LIVE-IN MANAGEMENT WITH ONE ROOM VERSUS MULTIPLE ROOM IN THEIR FINAL RECOMMENDATION.
IN SUMMARY, THE AMENDMENTS WILL REQUIRE ALL SHORT-TERM RENTALS TO BE REGISTERED.
IT WILL LOOK AT THE GRANDFATHERING, THE EXISTING USES THAT WE'RE OPERATING PRIOR TO THE BAN, AND IT DISTINGUISHES BETWEEN TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS; LIVE-IN MANAGEMENT, SHORT-TERM RENTAL, AND OFFSITE MANAGEMENT.
THIS IS BASED ON THE SCALE AND IMPACT OF THESE DIFFERENT RENTAL TYPES.
AGAIN, YOU'LL SEE THE GREEN DOTS THERE.
THAT MEANS THIS RELATES TO NUMBER NINE OF THE TASK FORCE RECOMMENDATIONS.
WHAT DOES LIVE-IN MANAGEMENT MEAN? IT MEANS THERE IS A SPECIFIC OPERATOR REQUIRED ON SITE.
IT'LL BE CONSISTENT WITH THE REGISTRATION, AND THEY MUST STAY IN THE DWELLING OVERNIGHT WHENEVER GUESTS ARE PRESENT AT THAT RENTAL.
ADDITIONALLY, THE PROPERTY OWNER MAY ACT AS THE OPERATOR, BUT IT DOES NOT REQUIRE IT TO BE THE PROPERTY OWNER.
OFF-SITE MANAGEMENT, SHORT-TERM RENTAL, THERE IS NO HOST REQUIRED.
THE MANAGEMENT CAN BE COMPLETELY OFF-SITE, LIVING IN A DIFFERENT PLACE, AND IT IS RENTAL OF A FULL DWELLING UNIT.
WE DETAIL THOSE DIFFERENT TYPES IN THE ORDINANCE, BUT IT WOULD BE THE WHOLE HOME, INCLUDING THE BACKYARD COTTAGE, IF THAT'S AVAILABLE, A DUPLEX, A TOWN HOME, OR A SINGLE APARTMENT UNIT.
THESE ARE THE SHORTHAND FOR THREE OPTIONS CONSIDERED BY P&Z.
THEY HAD THE SAME TREATMENT OF OFF-SITE MANAGEMENT, BUT VARIED BY DISTINGUISHING BETWEEN RENTING A SINGLE ROOM OR MULTIPLE ROOMS FOR LIVE-IN MANAGEMENT.
THE SECOND OPTION INCLUDED SOME DENSITY BUFFERS AND THE THIRD OPTION REQUIRED LIVE-IN MANAGEMENT EXCLUSIVELY BY SUP IN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS.
P&Z LOOKED AT THOSE, DEBATED THEM, AND TOOK SEVERAL VOTES AND LANDED ON A FOURTH OPTION,
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WHICH IS LIVE-IN MANAGEMENT SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE ALLOWED IN MOST RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS, BUT WITH A 300 FOOT DENSITY BUFFER.IT COMBINES ELEMENTS OF OPTION 3, WHERE THERE'S A SINGLE LIVE-IN MANAGEMENT TYPE AND THE DENSITY BUFFER THAT WE SEE IN OPTION 2.
HOW DO THESE RELATE, THE ZONING AND THE TASK FORCE RECOMMENDATIONS? TASK FORCE RECOMMENDATION ONE WAS PRIOR TO LIFTING THE INTERIM BAN, THERE SHOULD BE ZONING ORDINANCE UPDATES TO IDENTIFY DISTRICTS AND LOCATIONS WHERE NEW STRS MAY BE INAPPROPRIATE OR APPROPRIATE.
YOU'LL SEE IN THE ORDINANCE THAT WE ARE PRESENTING, THERE ARE LOCATIONS FOR BOTH LIVE-IN MANAGEMENT AND OFF-SITE MANAGEMENT, BOTH BEING ALLOWED IN NON RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS, EXCEPT FOR O-1, THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH HOTEL USES.
SOME MULTIFAMILY RESIDENCES IN A LIMITED CAPACITY, AND THEN THERE'S ADDITIONAL PLACES WHERE LIVE-IN MANAGEMENT IS SEEN AS PRODUCTIVE IN HERITAGE DISTRICTS, USING THE 300 FOOT BUFFER, AND THEN OTHERWISE BY SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.
THIS IS A MAP OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
THE GREEN AREAS ARE WHERE SOME FORM IS ALLOWED, AS WELL AS LIVE-IN MANAGEMENT.
THEN THE TAN OR BROWN AREAS ARE THE MULTIFAMILY ALLOWANCES.
PINK IS ALSO RESIDENTIAL OFTEN IN NON RESIDENTIAL ZONING.
I THINK I JUST DIDN'T NOTICE IT MOVED.
TRYING TO GO BACK HERE, OFF-SITE MANAGEMENT.
THIS IS THE MAP FOR OFF-SITE MANAGEMENT.
YOU CAN SEE THE GRAY AREA, IS WHERE OFF-SITE MANAGEMENT SHORT-TERM RENTALS WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED AS WELL AS THE WHITE, AND THEN THE OTHER COLORS REPRESENT AREAS WHERE OFF-SITE MANAGEMENT COULD BE ALLOWED.
EXISTING SHORT-TERM RENTALS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MAP, BUT THIS JUST IS THE NUMBERS ON THE EXISTING SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
YOU SEE CONFORMING OR ANTICIPATED TO BE CONFORMING BASED ON THE DATA WE HAVE IS REPRESENTED BY BLUE, NONCONFORMING BY RED, AND THEN STARS ARE LIVE-IN MANAGEMENT, AND CIRCLES ARE OFF-SITE MANAGEMENT, AND THEN THERE ARE A FEW UNKNOWN TYPES.
THIS IS WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE ADOPTING THE P&Z VERSION, SHOWING PLACES THAT WOULD BE POTENTIALLY NONCONFORMING AND PLACES THAT MIGHT BE CONFORMING.
MOVING ON TO RECOMMENDATION 2, SHORT-TERM RENTALS MAY BE PERMITTED ANYWHERE A HOTEL IS ALLOWED.
THE LIVING MANAGEMENT AND OFF-SITE MANAGEMENT SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE PERMITTED BOTH WHERE HOTELS ARE PERMITTED, AND THAT'S ALL NONRESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS EXCEPT FOR O-1.
WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE COMMERCIAL MIXED USE AND TOD AREAS, BUT THOSE LARGELY OVERLAPPED, SO WE FELT LIKE THAT WAS ADDRESSED JUST THROUGH THE ZONING.
ITEM 3 MAXIMUM DENSITY OF NEW SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN A SPECIFIED AREA CAN BE LIMITED AS A TOOL TO REFINE ZONING.
IN MOST ZONING DISTRICTS, THE LIVE-IN MANAGEMENT ARE NOT PERMITTED WITHIN 300 FEET, SO THAT IS A LIMITATION, AND THEN WE ALSO INCLUDED DENSITY ANALYSIS FOR SUPS, SO ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO LIMIT IN THAT SPECIFIC SCENARIO.
NUMBER 4, A PROPERTY MUST NOT BE USED FOR COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT PURPOSES, SUCH AS A PARTY WITH A COVER CHARGE UNLESS PERMITTED BY THE ZONING AND IT HAS A CO FROM THE CITY.
WE'RE LOOKING AT AMENDING THE COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT DEFINITION TO ADD A FEE FOR CHARGE, WHICH WAS NOT PREVIOUSLY IN THERE THAT WE THINK IT MAKES IT A LITTLE MORE REFINED AND ALIGNS IT WITH THE OUTDOOR COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT USE.
THEN THERE ARE ADDITIONAL REGULATIONS RELATED TO THIS IN THE REGISTRATION PROGRAM.
ALSO, THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY WILL BE REQUIRED.
THAT'S AN ORDINANCE REQUIREMENT THAT EXISTS TODAY.
ITEM NUMBER 5, COUNCIL THROUGH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION SHOULD UPDATE THE ZONING ORDINANCE DEFINITIONS RELATED TO ASSEMBLY HALL, COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT, BED AND BREAKFAST INN, ROOMING AND BOARDING HOUSE.
THERE ARE UPDATED DEFINITIONS FOR COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT, ASSEMBLY HALL, AND BOARDING AND ROOMING HOUSE, AND THEN THE PROPOSAL DELETES BED AND BREAKFAST INN AND REPLACES THAT WITH A LIVE-IN MANAGEMENT SHORT-TERM RENTAL USE.
ITEM 6 FROM THE TASK FORCE IS LIMIT OPERATION OF SOME NEW SHORT-TERM RENTALS TO A MAXIMUM NUMBER OF RENTAL NIGHTS PER YEAR TO GIVE FLEXIBILITY TO PROPERTY OWNERS.
THE COMMISSION DID LOOK AT WHAT WE CALLED LIMITED OR SEASONAL RENTAL
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TO LIMIT A SHORT-TERM RENTALS OPERATION FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.THAT WAS REJECTED AFTER FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC AND JUST SOME PRACTICAL CONVERSATION, BUT UNDER THE SUP REQUIREMENT, THAT IS A STANDARD THAT IS LISTED TO CONSIDER MAXIMUM NUMBER OF RENTAL NIGHTS PER YEAR.
ITEM 7 IS REQUIRING THAT A SHORT-TERM RENTAL STAY MUST BE FOR A MINIMUM NUMBER OF NIGHTS IN CERTAIN AREAS OR DISTRICTS, AGAIN, AS A TOOL TO REFINE ZONING.
WHEN A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT IS APPLIED, YOU CAN CONSIDER RESTRICTING THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL TO A MINIMUM NUMBER OF NIGHTS.
THEN OFF-SITE RENTAL, WE HAVE FOR ALL TIMES TWO NIGHTS PER BOOKING, AND THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM SEVERAL MEMBERS OF PUBLIC FEEDBACK THAT THAT IS A BEST PRACTICE AND MAY REDUCE PARTY HOUSES.
ADDRESSING ONSITE PARKING REQUIREMENTS AS PART OF A LARGER ANALYSIS IS ITEM 8, AND THAT JUST DIDN'T FIT WITHIN THE TIME FRAME OF THIS PROJECT, BUT IS SCHEDULED TO BE CONDUCTED AT A LATER DATE, BUT SOON.
ITEM 9, WHICH IS THE LAST ITEM, IT IS APPROPRIATE TO HAVE SOME DIFFERENT REGULATORY STANDARDS FOR LIVE-IN MANAGEMENT THAN FOR OTHER TYPES OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS BECAUSE THEY HAVE LESS IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY FABRIC.
WE HEARD TESTIMONY ABOUT THIS IN THE TASK FORCE, AND YOU SEE THEY ARE TREATED DIFFERENTLY IN THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE.
HERITAGE DISTRICTS OUTSIDE THE BUFFER AND OTHERWISE BY SUP ARE EXCLUSIVE TO LIVE-IN MANAGEMENT VERSUS THE OFF-SITE MANAGEMENT STRS, WHICH ARE ALLOWED, BUT IN FEWER LOCATIONS.
ONE OF THE DATA POINTS THAT RELATES TO THAT ITEM NUMBER 9 IS THE CALLS FOR SERVICE, AND YOU SEE THAT DISTINGUISHED BETWEEN LIVE-IN MANAGEMENT AND OFF-SITE MANAGEMENT.
IN THE LIVE-IN MANAGEMENT SHORT-TERM RENTALS, THERE ARE A FEWER NUMBER, BUT NONE OF THOSE HAD THREE OR MORE CALLS FOR SERVICE DURING OUR DATA TIME FRAME, AND THEN A SMALLER PERCENTAGE OF THOSE HAD 1-2 CALLS FOR SERVICE.
THAT IS SOME DATA THAT POINTS TO THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN THOSE TWO USES.
ADDITIONALLY, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ITEMS THAT RELATE TO THE SUP REQUESTS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE ORDINANCE, LOCATION, MINIMUM NUMBER OF NIGHTS, MAXIMUM NUMBER OF RENTALS PER YEAR.
ALL THOSE RELATE BACK TO THE TASK FORCE RECOMMENDATIONS.
ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS ARE THAT ALL STRS MUST REGISTER AS A SHORT-TERM RENTALS UNDER ZONING, SO THAT POINTS TO THE REGISTRATION ORDINANCE THAT YOU'LL HEAR NEXT, COMPLY WITH PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE AND MAY ONLY OCCUR IN A DWELLING UNIT, SO NOT IN COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
THE CONTINUATION OF NONCONFORMING USES, WHICH ALSO REFERRED TO AS GRANDFATHERING IS ALSO PART OF THIS ORDINANCE.
MULTIFAMILY RESIDENCES ARE TREATED DIFFERENTLY.
IT'S A GENERAL PRACTICE THAT SOME UNITS MAY BE HELD FOR SHORT-TERM LEASES FOR VARIOUS REASONS, AND SO THE PROPOSAL IS TO ALLOW UP TO 5% OF THE UNITS TO BE USED AS SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATION IS ADMINISTRATION OF BUFFER.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT DISCUSSED AT P&Z, SO WE WANTED TO POINT TO THIS SPECIFICALLY, BUT WE FOUND THAT BUFFER ADMINISTRATION, THERE'S SOME COMPLEXITY TO IT BECAUSE OF OVERLAP AND SO FORTH, SO WE ADDED A SENTENCE TO THE ORDINANCE THAT SAYS THE DIRECTOR MAY PROMULGATE RULES AND REGULATIONS TO SET FORTH PROCESSES AND POLICIES GOVERNING THIS BUFFER PROVISION THAT WAY WHEN THOSE COMPLEXITIES ARISE, WE HAVE COVERAGE IN THE ORDINANCE.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THROUGH THE STAFF REPORT, YOU'LL NOTE SEVERAL CITATIONS TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT SUPPORT THIS ACTION.
WE HAVE 84 IN SUPPORT, ONE NEUTRAL, AND 101 IN OPPOSITION FOR A TOTAL OF 186 UNIQUE RESPONSES.
YOU'LL SEE WE DID RECEIVE MANY MORE, 264.
HOWEVER, 79 WERE DUPLICATE RESPONSES, AND SO WE'VE ONLY INCLUDED THE LATEST RESPONSE FROM THE INDIVIDUAL.
IF THAT WAS UPDATED, THIS INCLUDES THE LATEST RESPONSE, AND ONE OF THOSE WAS FROM OUTSIDE THE CITY OF PLANO, AND THAT WAS AN OPPOSED RESPONSE.
HERE'S THE MAP OF THE WAY THINGS ARE LOOKING FROM BOTH SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION.
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WE HAVE RECEIVED A NUMBER OF OTHER EMAILS THAT WERE NOT PART OF OUR ONLINE REGISTRATION SYSTEM, 70 IN TOTAL, 45 IN OPPOSITION, 19 NEUTRAL, AND SIX IN SUPPORT.TIMING CONSIDERATIONS, WE WANT TO POINT OUT TO THE COUNCIL THAT ANYTHING THAT GOES INTO EFFECT TONIGHT WILL BE PRIOR TO EXPIRATION OF THE INTERIM BAN.
BUT IF AN ACTION IS NOT TAKEN TONIGHT, THERE IS A NEED TO TABLE IF THAT BAN IS NOT TO EXPIRE.
AN ORDINANCE ALLOWING TABLING IS INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET, AND THAT IS SET AS JUNE 15TH IS THE DATE THAT WOULD ALLOW TWO MORE MEETINGS IN MAY, AND YET YOU ARE WELCOME TO MAKE CHANGES TO THAT DATE IF EITHER MORE OR LESS TIME IS DESIRED.
>> THE SUMMARY OF PROPOSED AMENDMENTS, STRS HAVE TO REGISTER.
STRS ARE GRANDFATHERED ALLOWED TO CONTINUE OPERATING IF THEY'VE BEEN EXISTING PRIOR TO THE INTERIM BAN.
NEW STRS ARE PERMITTED IN NONRESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS, SIMILAR TO HOTELS AND SOME IN MULTIFAMILY PROPERTIES.
LIVE-IN MANAGEMENT SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE ALSO PERMITTED IN HERITAGE PROPERTIES WHERE THEY'RE 300 FEET FROM OTHER STRS OR OTHERWISE BY A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.
THEIR DEFINITIONS UPDATED, USE STANDARDS ARE INCLUDED, AND THE INTERIM BAN IS LIFTED AND THE ORDINANCE PRESENTED IN YOUR PACKET.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND THIS ORDINANCE BY A VOTE OF 5-3, AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
DOES ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR CHRISTINA?
I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND WE HAVE SEVERAL SPEAKERS TONIGHT.
EACH SPEAKER WILL HAVE A MINUTE AND 30 SECONDS TO SHARE THEIR COMMENTS WITH US.
LISA, DO YOU WANT TO CALL THE FIRST SPEAKER?
>> ABSOLUTELY. THE FIRST SPEAKER IS BILL FRANCE, WHO WILL BE FOLLOWED BY ELAINA BURKE AND STEPHEN KYRIAKOS.
>> MAYOR PRO TEM, COUNCIL, GOOD EVENING.
I REPRESENT THE PLANO TEXAS NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION.
I ASK ALL OF OUR SUPPORTERS IN BOTH ROOMS TO PLEASE STAND.
TONIGHT, WE SUPPORT WHAT IS PRESENTED BEFORE YOU AS OPTION 4 OF THE PROPOSED STR ZONING ORDINANCE.
IT OFFERS WHAT WE BELIEVE IS A BALANCED APPROACH BY FIRST ALLOWING EXISTING STRS TO APPLY FOR GRANDFATHERED STATUS.
SECOND, ALLOWING NEW STRS IN SPECIFIED AREAS, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, SAFEGUARDING OUR COMMUNITY BY DISALLOWING ANY NEW STRS IN OUR EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
ALL OTHER OPTIONS, ESPECIALLY THE P&Z PROPOSAL WOULD OPEN THE CITY TO A MULTITUDE OF UNINTENDED AND DIRE CONSEQUENCES.
IT OPENS UP A PANDORA'S BOX THAT IS LEFT UNREVOCABLE AND UNENFORCEABLE.
>> IT'S A TENDER BOX FOR LITIGATION.
YOUR NEIGHBORS ARE PUTTING THEIR TRUST IN YOU TONIGHT TO DEFEND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND UPHOLD THE VERY PURPOSE OF OUR ZONING LAWS.
OPTION 4 IS THE ONLY OPTION PRESENTED HERE TONIGHT THAT PRESERVES THE INTEGRITY OF OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, AND IT'S THE MOST CONSERVATIVE PATH TO RESOLUTION OF THIS ISSUE.
PLEASE PRESERVE THE LEGACY OF VARSITY FOR ALL WHO WILL CALL IT HOME FOR THE NEXT 150 YEARS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY.
>> GOOD EVENING COUNCIL MEMBERS.
THE STATEMENT BY THE P&Z CHAIRPERSON WAS, "THERE IS A FEAR THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET OVERRUN WITH THESE STRS AND THERE'S A FEAR THAT THEY WILL GET OPENED IN EVERY SINGLE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE CITY".
HE THEN SAID, "THE MARKET AND THE DEMAND IS GOING TO RESOLVE THAT ISSUE".
IN THE CITY OF PLANO, THAT FEAR EXISTS FOR A GOOD REASON.
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THE CURRENT ZONING PROPOSAL PROVIDES VIRTUALLY NO GUARD RAILS TO CONTROL THE WIDESPREAD PROLIFERATION IN EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE CITY OF PLANO.WE CANNOT LET THE MARKET DETERMINE THE UPPER LIMIT ON HOW THESE NEW SHORT-TERM RENTALS CAN EXIST IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
ALLOWING THEM IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, IF THEY'RE 300 FEET APART IS EFFECTIVELY NO ZONING AT ALL AND DOES NOTHING TO PROTECT HOMEOWNERS AND FAMILIES WHO ACTUALLY LIVE IN THEIR HOMES.
MAY YOUR VOTE TONIGHT SEND THE MESSAGE TO THE MAJORITY OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS THAT THEIR SURVEY RESPONSES AND THE DATA FROM THE TASK FORCE MATTER TO YOU. THANK YOU.
>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS STEPHEN KYRIAKOS.
I'M A 21-YEAR RESIDENT OF PLANO.
TONIGHT, YOU VOTE ON P&Z'S PROPOSED ORDINANCE ON STRS.
THIS CONCLUDES ONE YEAR OF CAREFUL DATA COLLECTION AND ANALYSIS BY THE CITY, THE TASK FORCE, AND GAP STRATEGIES FROM VARIOUS SOURCES, INCLUDING SURVEYING OUR CITIZENS.
ONE EXCEPTION IS THE ONLINE ZONING CASE RESPONSE TOOL FOR TWO REASONS.
THIS MAP DRIVEN TOOL ONLY ALLOWS ONE YES OR NO VOTE ON THE THREE ORDINANCE OPTIONS OUTLINED IN THE PRE APRIL 1 VERSION OF ZC 2024-008.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE MAPS YOU SAW IN THE EARLIER PRESENTATION.
THE SECOND ISSUE IS THAT THIS VERSION OF P&Z'S PROPOSED ORDINANCE THAT IS IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT WAS NOT THE VERSION PRESENTED TO THE CITIZENS AND VOTED UPON USING THE ONLINE TOOL.
FOR THESE REASONS, I WOULD URGE YOU TO NOT USE THE ZONE CASE RESPONSE TOOL DATA IN CONSIDERATION OF THIS EVENING'S VOTE.
FURTHERMORE, SINCE THE PUBLIC WAS NOT ABLE TO EFFECTIVELY VOTE OR COMMENT ON THE CURRENT VERSION OF P&Z'S ORDINANCE, I WOULD SUGGEST OPTION 4 THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR HAND AS PRESENTED HERE TONIGHT. THANK YOU.
>> THE NEXT SPEAKER IS KATHERINE PARKER, FOLLOWED BY JOHN BURKE AND MARLA KYRIAKOS.
>> GOOD EVENING. I'M KATHERINE PARKER.
MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE LIVED IN PLANO FOR 10 YEARS.
TONIGHT, I'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU SOMETHING THAT WAS POSTED ON MY FRONT DOOR A FEW WEEKS AGO.
YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE IT BECAUSE IT'S AN INVITATION WRITTEN BY A CHILD.
IT SAYS, EASTER EGG HUNT AND FOOD IN CUL-DE-SAC SUNDAY THE 24TH AROUND 4:00 P.M. BRING FOOD TO SHARE.
ALL THE HOUSES ON MY STREET GOT THIS HANDWRITTEN NOTICE.
YOU MIGHT THINK THIS IS JUST A CUTE STORY.
BUT TO ME, THIS IS THE SIGN OF A HEALTHY THRIVING NEIGHBORHOOD.
HOW DOES A PARTY LIKE THIS HAPPEN? IT HAPPENS BECAUSE ALL THE CHILDREN IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD PLAY TOGETHER.
THEIR PARENTS KNOW EACH OTHER.
MY HUSBAND AND I, WE DON'T EVEN HAVE CHILDREN, BUT ALL THE CHILDREN ON OUR STREET KNOW US, AND WE KNOW THEM.
OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS 50 YEARS OLD.
FOR THE CITY. THIS CHILD'S INVITATION-.
THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT PLANO NEIGHBORHOODS TO BE, ACTIVE, ENGAGE, AND CONNECTED.
NEIGHBORHOODS THRIVE BECAUSE OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE.
SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE NOT NEIGHBORS.
THEY ARE EMPTY HOUSES OWNED BY INVESTORS.
PLEASE PUT ASIDE THE P&Z PROPOSAL AND BAN SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS.
>> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS JOHN BURKE.
I'D LIKE TO OFFER A PERSPECTIVE ON A TOPIC THAT YOU'VE HEARD FROM THE SECOND SPEAKER THAT I HOPE IS A USEFUL CONSIDERATION FOR YOU AS YOU VOTE ON THE PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU TONIGHT THE ORDINANCE PROPOSAL.
IN THE APRIL 1ST MEETING, THE P&Z COMMISSIONER IN RESPONDING TO SOME OF THE EXPRESSED CONCERNS ABOUT FEARS OF PROLIFERATION DID MAKE THAT COMMENT ABOUT THE MARKET WILL TAKE CARE OF THAT.
MY CONCERN IS THAT I DON'T TRUST THE MARKET TO DETERMINE SUCH IMPORTANT THINGS.
I WOULD USE THE EXAMPLE OF TEXTING PHENOMENON.
IN 1990 WHEN TEXTING WAS BECOMING POPULAR, I THINK THE ESTIMATES FROM MOST PEOPLE IN THE INDUSTRY THOUGHT THAT FOR EVERY MEMBER WHO HAD A PHONE WOULD BE A HALF OF A TEXT PER MONTH PER MEMBER.
WITH THE PROLIFERATION OF NETWORKS NOW THAT COULD COMMUNICATE BETWEEN NETWORKS, IT JUMPED, WHERE BY NOW BY 1995, TEXTING IS THE MOST DOMINANT FORM OF COMMUNICATION OVER PHONE CALLS.
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MY POINT IS THAT I DON'T REALLY TRUST LETTING THE MARKET REGULATE THE PROLIFERATION OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS.I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD BAN NEW SHORT-TERM RENTALS, ALLOW GRANDFATHER SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
BUT BAN THEM FROM NEIGHBORS BASED ON AN ORDINANCE CONTROL MECHANISM.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR ONGOING WORK WITH US. THANK YOU.
>> MR. FRANCE, I THINK YOU MAY HAVE LEFT YOUR GLASSES UP THERE.
>> JUST IN CASE YOU WERE LOOKING TO SEE ME, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THEY GO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> GOOD EVENING, ALL I'M MARLA KYRIAKOS.
I HAVE LIVED IN MY HOME FOR 31 YEARS IN A PLANO NEIGHBORHOOD WITHOUT A MANDATORY HOA.
I'M URGING YOU TO VOTE NO ON THE PROPOSED ZONING ORDINANCE FROM P&Z.
IT GRANTS AN STR BY RIGHT TO EVERY HOME IN PLANO.
AT THE LAST P&Z MEETING, I LIVE IN STR HOST SAID THEY ARE NOT ALWAYS ON SITE.
THEY CAN'T BE. THEY HAVE LIVES.
THE GUESTS REGULARLY GET THE WHOLE HOUSE TO THEMSELVES.
THIS MAKES IT A STRAIGHT UP OFF SITE STR.
THERE IS NO WAY FOR THE CITY TO MONITOR OR ENFORCE THIS.
BUT THIS IS A LOOPHOLE THAT AIRBNB WILL EXPLOIT TO OVERRUN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS WITH MANY HOTELS.
THEY CAN ALSO TAKE THIS DEFINITION TO COURT AND BREAK IT.
ALL THAT WILL BE LEFT IS STR BY RIGHT CITYWIDE.
YOU CAN ALWAYS GRANT MORE STR RIGHTS LATER IF NEEDED, BUT YOU CAN NEVER TAKE THIS AWAY.
I SUPPORT WHAT IS NOW CALLED OPTION 4, NO NEW STRS OF ANY KIND IN SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, LEGALLY DEFENSIBLE, CLEARLY ENFORCEABLE.
TASK FORCE SUPPORTED AND WHAT YOUR DATA SHOWS THE CITIZENS WANT.
>> THE NEXT SPEAKER IS MARK PULLIAM, FOLLOWED BY LORI GREEN AND GLENN SMITH.
I'VE BEEN A PLANO RESIDENT SINCE 1989.
BEEN HERE A WHILE. YOU'VE HEARD ALREADY A LOT OF THIS.
I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THE COUNCIL URGING THE COUNCIL TO REJECT THE PROPOSED ZONING ORDINANCE AS PRESENTED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
IT'S DEFECTIVE ON SEVERAL REGARDS I DO AND I SAW HER TODAY.
BECAUSE BASICALLY, IT GOES EXACTLY AGAINST WHAT WAS FOUND BY THE TASK FORCE AND BY THE 6,000 SURVEY RESPONSES 79% DO NOT WANT STRS IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS.
THAT'S A DEFECTIVE FINDING BY THE P&Z.
I WAS A MEMBER OF THE CAST GO THROUGH THAT.
THE OPTION 4 THAT MR. FRANCE PRESENTED WAS CONSERVATIVE.
IT'S RESPONSIVE TO THE CITIZENS IT'S WHAT THE CITIZENS WANT.
MOST OF THE CITIZENS WANT. IT IS SAFE.
IT'S THE MOST CONSERVATIVE APPROACH, THE LEAST LIKELIHOOD OF LITIGATION.
THERE'S PRETTY GOING TO BE LITIGATION OVER ANYTHING, AS WE KNOW ANYONE CAN FILE A LAWSUIT SO NOT A BIG DEAL.
I'M JUST URGING YOU TO DO THE RIGHT THING TONIGHT AND APPROVE OPTION 4.
>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS LORI GREEN, AND I'VE LIVED IN PLANO FOR 30 YEARS.
I CONTINUE TO WONDER WHY OUR CITY WOULD ALLOW SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
HERE'S A QUOTE FROM THE NATIONAL INSTITUTES OF HEALTH WEBSITE.
NEIGHBORHOODS WHOSE RESIDENTS KNOW AND TRUST EACH OTHER AND SHARE COMMON VALUES ARE MORE ABLE TO ESTABLISH AND ENFORCE SOCIAL NORMS. IN TURN, THEY TEND TO HAVE LOWER LEVELS OF CRIME.
I KNOW SOME CITIES LIKE FAIRVIEW, HIGHLAND PARK, SOUTH LAKE AND OTHERS HAVE BANNED STRS AND THE BAN HAS BEEN UPHELD.
STRS HAVE A PLACE DO NOT HAVE A PLACE IN SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS.
ONE ARTICLE SUGGESTS THAT STRS MAY BRING MONEY TO LOCAL RESTAURANTS AND MERCHANTS. THAT'S IT.
NEIGHBORS LIVING IN NEIGHBORHOODS CAN PROVIDE THOSE SAME THINGS.
WE USE SERVICES THAT AN STR RENTER WOULD NOT USE.
WE USE CPAS. WE USE A HAIR SALON.
WE HAVE FEWER STUDENTS IN SCHOOLS, SO SCHOOLS DON'T BENEFIT FROM STRS.
PLANO HAS A LACK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND INVESTOR OWNED STRS CONTRIBUTE TO THAT.
ANOTHER QUOTE FROM THE NIH WEBSITE IS AIRBNB HAS REMOVED MATERIAL CAPITAL FROM THE MARKET, RAISING PRICES FOR RENTERS.
AIRBNB REMOVES SOCIAL CAPITAL FROM NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE FORM OF STABLE HOUSEHOLDS, WEAKENING THE ASSOCIATED COMMUNITY DYNAMICS.
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HAWAII IS LOOKING AT BANNING STRS.THERE ARE FIVE MAJOR CITIES IN THE US THAT SAY OWNING AIRBNB AS AN INVESTMENT PROPERTY IS ILLEGAL.
PLEASE SUPPORT OPTION 4 AND BAN STRS IN SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS.
>> RESPECTED CITY COMMISSIONER, CITY MANAGER ISRAELSON, DEDICATED STAFF, AND FELLOW CITIZENS AND NEIGHBORS. MY NAME IS GLENN SMITH.
I AM A US AIR FORCE VETERAN, A MEMBER OF THE STR TASK FORCE, AND FOR OVER 27 YEARS, I'VE CALLED PLANO MY HOME.
PLEASE DO NOT APPROVE THE ZONING PROPOSAL IN FRONT OF YOU 008.
I IMPLORE YOU TO CONSIDER THE LONG TERM IMPACT.
LISTEN TO THE RESIDENTS WHO STOOD FIRM FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS.
THE RECENT NOISE SHOULD NOT OVERSHADOW THE PROGRESS WE MADE LAST YEAR WHEN YOU HALTED STR GROWTH TO STUDY THE PROBLEMS AND THE SOLUTIONS.
LET'S PROTECT OUR BELOVED CITY AND ENSURE PLANO REMAINS SAFE SECURE AND WELCOMING FOR ALL.
CREATE LEGISLATION AND ZONING THAT MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE EVENTS OF THE PAST YEARS TO OCCUR AGAIN.
P&Z'S PROPOSAL ALLOWS MANAGED SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN ALL SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, AND IT THREATENS THE VERY FABRIC OF OUR COMMUNITY BY ALLOWING ANY FORM OF STR WITHIN 300 FEET OF ANOTHER ONE.
TO BE CLEAR, THE STR TASK FORCE HELD THREE MAJOR FINDINGS IN OUR PHASE 2 REPORT IN OCTOBER.
STRS NEGATIVELY AFFECT THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN PLANO.
THERE COULD BE APPROPRIATE PLACES FOR STRS IN PLANO AND THE CITY SHOULD DEVELOP COMPREHENSIVE PERMANENT REGULATIONS TO GOVERN STRS.
>> IMAGINE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS SATURATED WITH THESE RENTALS, ALTERING OUR COMMUNITY'S CHARACTER AND DETERRING PERMANENT RESIDENTS.
THIS ISN'T THE PLANO THAT I MOVED TO, AND I HOPE IT'S NOT YOURS.
>> THE NEXT SPEAKER IS MELISSA PULLIAM, FOLLOWED BY ANNE HILL AND CINDY PATLO.
>> MY NAME IS MELISSA PULLIAM, AND I STRONGLY URGE THE CITY COUNCIL TO REJECT THE PROPOSED ZONING ORDINANCE AS RECOMMENDED BY P&Z AND CONSIDER ADOPTING A MODIFIED ORDINANCE BEING CALLED OPTION 4 TONIGHT.
OPTION FOUR WILL BAN ALL NEW STRS AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS, GRANDFATHER EXISTING STRS.
THERE SHOULD BE NO LITIGATION ON THAT AND GRANT RIGHT TO NEW STRS AND MOTEL OR OTHER COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS AS THE CITY DETERMINES.
WE WERE ORIGINALLY DRAWN TO PLANO AS A YOUNG FAMILY BECAUSE EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD IS BUILT AROUND AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL OR MIDDLE SCHOOL.
BRINGING SHORT-TERM RENTALS INTO EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD IN PLANO IS DETRIMENTAL TO THE FABRIC OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND OUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN, BY DEFINITION, A TRANSIENT OCCUPANT IS NOT A RESIDENT.
THE VERY NATURE OF TRANSIENCE BREAKS DOWN A NEIGHBORHOOD, NOT BECAUSE OF THE VISITORS THEMSELVES WHO COME AND GO, BUT BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF TRANSIENCE ITSELF.
ACCORDING TO A STUDY OUT OF NORTHEASTERN UNIVERSITY, THE MASS CONVERSION OF HOMES INTO STRS UNDERMINES A NEIGHBORHOOD SOCIAL ORGANIZATION, AND THE STRS THEMSELVES FAIL TO CONTRIBUTE TO CRITICAL NEIGHBORHOOD SOCIAL DYNAMICS.
REJECT THE P&Z ORDINANCE AS PROPOSED AND ADOPT OPTION 4 TONIGHT.
>> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS ON CITY STAFF.
PLANO IS SO CLOSE TO RESOLUTION ON THIS ISSUE, AND I THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR THOUGHTFUL WORK.
WHAT I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR TONIGHT TO YOU IS THAT YOU MUST VOTE AGAINST THE P&Z PROPOSAL.
AS AN ATTORNEY, I AM EXTREMELY CONCERNED ABOUT THE P&Z PROPOSALS EXPENSIVE AND UNNECESSARY LITIGATION RISK.
THE LIVE IN MANAGEMENT DISTINCTION THAT IS KEY IN THIS PROPOSAL IS PART OF AN APPEAL THAT WAS JUST FILED ON MARCH 15TH IN A CASE AGAINST THE CITY OF NEW ORLEANS IN THE FIFTH CIRCUIT.
COST OF LITIGATION ISN'T THE ONLY RISK.
THE POTENTIAL OUTCOME OF PASSING ANY ORDINANCE THAT RELIES ON THIS LIVE AND MANAGEMENT DISTINCTION IS DIRE AND COMPLETELY CONTRARY TO PLANO'S INTENTIONS.
IF YOU PASS AN ORDINANCE THAT RELIES ON THIS LIVE AND MANAGEMENT CONCEPT AND THAT CONCEPT IS INVALIDATED BY THE COURTS, YOU MUST THEN ALLOW OFFSITE MANAGED STRS IN ANY PLACE WHERE YOU HAVE ALLOWED LIVE AND MANAGED STRS.
IN THE CASE OF THE P&Z ZONING PROPOSAL, THIS WOULD BE ALLOWING STRS IN ALL SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS IN PLANO.
I DON'T COME JUST WITH PROBLEMS.
PLANO DOESN'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR THIS CASE TO BE HEARD BEFORE IT TAKES ACTION.
RATHER, PLANO NEEDS TO CONTINUE WHAT IT'S BEEN DOING, WHICH IS BEING THOUGHTFUL.
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FOLLOW WHILE THE COURTS HEAR AT THIS APPEAL, AND THAT WILL ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF ITS CITIZENS.THIS IS WHAT WE ARE REFERRING TO AS OPTION 4.
>> GOOD EVENING. YOU'VE BEEN TOLD THAT LIVE IN MANAGEMENT STRS RESULT IN FEWER CALLS FOR SERVICE JUSTIFYING DISTINGUISHING BETWEEN LIVE IN AND OFFSITE MANAGEMENT SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
WHAT IS MORE TRUE IS THAT OWNER OCCUPIED SHORT-TERM RENTALS HAVE RESULTED IN FEWER CALLS FOR SERVICE.
THE IDEA THAT MANAGEMENT OCCUPIED SHORT-TERM RENTALS WOULD HAVE THE SAME RESULT IS UNTESTED.
WE HAVE NO DATA TO SUPPORT THIS, AND YET THAT IS WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED.
AGAIN, BECAUSE THE COURTS DON'T ALLOW LIVE IN OWNERS TO BE SPECIFIED OVER LIVE IN MANAGERS.
ALL OF THE AVAILABLE DATA IS REGARDING OWNER OCCUPIED SHORT-TERM RENTALS VERSUS LIVE IN MANAGEMENT SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
WE'RE ASKING YOU TO RELY ON THE AVAILABLE DATA.
AGAIN, PURSUE THE MOST CONSERVATIVE OPTION, THE ONE LEAST PRONE TO LEGAL CHALLENGES AND THAT BEST PROTECTS OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
PLEASE VOTE NO TO THE PROPOSED ZONING ORDINANCE AND ADOPT WHAT WE ARE CALLING OPTION 4, PROHIBITING ALL NEW SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN OUR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. THANK YOU.
>> THE NEXT SPEAKER IS JOHN GREEN, FOLLOWED BY SUZANNE PAPPAS, AND MARK BAUER.
MY NAME IS JOHN GREEN, AND I'VE LIVED IN PLANO FOR OVER 30 YEARS.
AS YOU ALL WE KNOW, THE CITY CONDUCTED A STUDY AND FOUND THAT THE MAJORITY OF CITIZENS SAID THEY WOULD BE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH AN STR ON THEIR BLOCK.
THE MAJORITY ALSO BELIEVED THAT THAT AN STR WOULD DECREASE THE VALUE OF THEIR PROPERTY.
THE CITY STAFF DID A GREAT JOB INFORMING THE RESIDENTS THAT INPUT WAS NEEDED ON THIS TOPIC.
THERE WERE EMAILS, SIGNS AT PARKS, AND FLYERS IN THE MAIL THAT ENCOURAGED US TO GIVE INPUT, AS WAS MENTIONED EARLIER BY THE CITY STAFF.
THE RECOMMENDATION BY THE P&Z IS CONTRARY TO THIS DATA.
PLEASE USE THE DATA THAT WAS COLLECTED FOR YOU TO CONSIDER AND VOTE FOR WHAT'S NOW BEING CALLED OPTION 4 AND PERMANENTLY BAN STRS IN SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS. THANK YOU.
>> GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF.
I'M A MEMBER OF THE TEXAS NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION, AND FOR OVER 24 YEARS, I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF PLANO AND A HOMEOWNER.
I STAND BEFORE YOU AGAIN TO ASK THE SAME THING THAT WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR FOR TWO YEARS, AND THAT IS NO NEW SHORT-TERM RENTALS OF ANY KIND IN OUR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
WE HAVE SUFFICIENT DATA FROM SURVEYS, OPEN HOUSES, THE DILIGENCE OF THE TASK FORCE, ETC, THAT OVERWHELMINGLY SUPPORTS OUR ASK THAT NO SHORT-TERM RENTALS OF ANY KIND, NO NEW ONES BE ALLOWED IN SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
THERE IS LEGAL PRECEDENT UPHOLDING BANS ON NEW SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
OTHER CITIES HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL, AND NO APPELLATE COURT HAS VOIDED A BAN ON NEW SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
EXAMPLES SUCH AS MUNS V. THE CITY OF GRAPEVINE, DRAPER V. THE CITY OF ARLINGTON.
IN BOTH OF THESE CASES, THE TEXAS SUPREME COURT DENIED A PETITION CHALLENGING THE BAN ON NEW SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
PLANO CAN ADOPT A BAN ON NEW SHORT-TERM RENTALS OF ANY KIND.
I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION AND RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU VOTE NO ON ZONING 2024-008 AND RATHER ADOPT THE PROPOSAL REFERRED TO TONIGHT AS OPTION 4, WHICH BANS NEW SHORT-TERM RENTALS OF ANY KIND IN OUR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
THIS IS THE BEST OPTION FOR THE CITY AND FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. THANK YOU.
>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS MARK BAUER, AND I'M A 10-YEAR RESIDENT OF PLANO.
WE LIVE BY TWO STRS, AND FOR TWO YEARS, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS PUT UP WITH PROSTITUTION, DRUGS, ALL NIGHT COMMERCIAL EVENTS, AND TEENAGE PARTIES WITH HUNDREDS OF TEENAGERS DESCENDING ON OUR BLOCK, MANY OF THEM DRINKING.
YOU MIGHT ASK, WHERE WERE THE POLICE? THEY WERE THERE TRYING TO DIRECT TRAFFIC AND KEEP OUR STREET OPEN,
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BUT THEY COULD REALLY DO NOTHING TO STOP WHAT WAS GOING ON.YOU CANNOT POLICE AN STR, YOU NEED TO PROHIBIT THEM WHERE THEY DON'T BELONG.
EVEN THE STR GUESTS THAT AREN'T SO BAD, CAN BE 5-15 CARS AND TEAR THE FABRIC OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE REQUEST THAT YOU PASSED OPTION 4 AND PROHIBIT ALL NEW SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND DEAL WITH THE EXISTING ONES THROUGH REGISTRATION.
THE STRS CANNOT POLICE THEMSELVES AND THE LEGAL OPENINGS YOU CREATE WILL BE EXPLOITED.
THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE WHERE THERE IS A COMPROMISE THAT WILL MAKE EVERYONE HAPPY.
YOU NEED TO DECIDE WHETHER YOU ARE GOING TO SUPPORT THE MAJORITY OF PLANO RESIDENTS OR THE FEW HUNDRED STR OWNERS.
>> THE NEXT SPEAKER IS BILL BAKER, FOLLOWED BY BARBARA FRANCE, AND TATIANA RAMIREZ.
>> GOOD EVENING, SITTER COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I DO NOT SUPPORT P&Z'S PROPOSED OPTION.
I DO SUPPORT THE OPTION YOU'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT, OPTION 4.
THIS IS WHY. OPTION 4 IS A CONSERVATIVE APPROACH.
IT'S FAIR TO BOTH SIDES AND IT'S STRAIGHTFORWARD.
IT'S SIMPLE, IT'S REASONABLE, AND IT'S ENFORCEABLE.
YOU SHOULD COMPARE BOTH SIDE BY SIDE BEFORE YOU MAKE ANY DECISIONS.
I BELIEVE IT'S THE COMMON SENSE SOLUTION.
I BELIEVE OUR JUDICIAL SYSTEM WILL SUPPORT IT AS WELL.
PLEASE ADOPT OPTION 4. THANKS FOR LISTENING.
>> BEFORE I START, THE PEOPLE IN THE OVERFLOW ROOM WHO STOOD UP JUST WANTED TO BE RECOGNIZED.
THEY'RE ALL BEING VERY PATIENT OVER THERE, SO THERE'S OUR FRIENDS.
GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS BARBARA FRANCE.
OPTION 4 THAT YOU'VE BEEN PRESENTED IS THE BEST OPTION FOR THE CITY TO ADOPT TO PRESERVE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
THE VISION STATEMENT FOR PLANO INCLUDES THREE MAIN IDEAS.
EXCELLENT EDUCATION, WORLD CLASS BUSINESSES, AND VIBRANT NEIGHBORHOODS.
THIS SHOWS THE HIGH VALUE WE PLACE ON OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS DEVELOPED TO STEER NEW GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT FOLLOWING THIS VISION.
IN FACT, GUIDING PRINCIPLE NUMBER 1 STATES THAT NEW POLICIES MUST MEET THE NEEDS AND PRIORITIES OF CURRENT RESIDENTS, ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE, PROMOTE SAFETY, VIABILITY AND VIBRANCY IN PLANO'S EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS, AND RESPECT THE SUBURBAN CHARACTER OF PLANO.
IF THE P&Z RECOMMENDATION IS ADOPTED, IT WILL SIGNIFICANTLY, NEGATIVELY, AND PERMANENTLY ALTER THE CHARACTER OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
THE ONLY OPTION WHICH WILL MAINTAIN THE SAFETY, VIABILITY, AND VIBRANCY OF OUR EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS IS OPTION 4. THANK YOU.
>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS TATIANA RAMIREZ.
WE NEVER SECOND GUESS OUR DECISION TO MOVE TO PLANO UNTIL STR SHOWED UP AT OUR DOORSTEP.
THESE PROPERTIES ADVERTISE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AS PRIVATE AND QUIET, BUT FAILED TO MENTION THAT WE ARE NOW A CRIME WATCH AREA DUE TO THEIR GUESTS CRIMINAL ACTS.
WHEN I STEP OUTSIDE MY DOOR, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE STRANGERS MAKING THREATENING COMMENTS OR AMBUSHING MY CHILDREN.
I DON'T WANT TO HEAR FROM MY YOUNGEST, "MOM, DON'T SAY ANYTHING, THEY'LL PULL A GUN ON YOU".
WHEN I'M OUT OF TOWN, I DON'T WANT TO RECEIVE A PHONE CALL FROM THE PLAIN OPD INFORMING US THAT OUR PROPERTY IS SECURE DUE TO ANOTHER PARTY.
WHEN I GO FOR A WALK, I DON'T WANT TO BE STEPPING ON BROKEN GLASS, CONDOMS, DRUG PARAPHERNALIA, NOR BE LOOKING AT THESE HOMES WHOSE ONLINE REVIEWS DESCRIBE THEM AS A SHELL WITH A BARE MINIMUM TO CALL IT RENTABLE.
WHEN I AM AT HOME, I DON'T WANT STRANGERS RECORDING MY FAMILY AND MY FRIENDS IN OUR KITCHEN, OUR YARD, OUR CARS, AND YES, EVEN IN OUR BEDROOM.
WHEN I COME HOME AT MIDNIGHT AFTER HAVING AN EMERGENCY, I DON'T WANT TO SEE PROSTITUTES BEING DROPPED OFF AT THE STR.
MY FAMILY AND I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO LIVE IN FEAR OF BEING
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INTIMIDATED, TARGETED, FOLLOWED, WATCHED, ABDUCTED, PREYED UPON, OR EXPECTING ANY TYPE OF PERSONAL RETALIATION AND VANDALISM TO OUR PROPERTY.NO ONE WILL BE SURPRISED WHEN TRAGEDY HAPPENS.
IF NOTHING CHANGES, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF TIME, AND IT WILL BE SOMEONE'S [APPLAUSE].
>> THE NEXT SPEAKER IS ENRIQUE RAMIREZ, FOLLOWED BY CHRISTY DAVIDSON AND PAGE PALMER.
>> GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS ENRIQUE RAMIREZ AND I'VE BEEN A PLANO RESIDENT FOR 22 YEARS.
I FIRST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY IN GENERAL AND ON THIS MATTER OF STRS IN PARTICULAR.
I'M HERE TO ASK YOU TO SUPPORT OPTION 4, NO NEW SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS.
MANY ARGUMENTS HAVE BEEN ALREADY BEEN MADE BY MY FELLOW NEIGHBORS, BUT I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE SAFETY ASPECT BECAUSE EVERY PLANO RESIDENT DESERVES TO FEEL SAFE AND AT EASE IN THEIR OWN HOME.
WE HAVE A FOR RENT PARTY HOUSE AS OUR NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE TWO STRS IN OUR BLOCK, AND EVERY TIME ONE OR BOTH IS RENTED OUT FOR THE WEEKEND, ALL MY NEIGHBORS ENTER A STATE OF APPREHENSION AND ANXIETY BECAUSE WE DO NOT FEEL SAFE.
A BUNCH OF STRANGERS POP UP IN OUR STREETS, MANY ACT STRANGELY, DOING THINGS LIKE STAYING IN PARKED CARS FOR EXTENDED PERIODS.
SOME DO NOT ACT STRANGELY AT ALL, BUT THEIR PRESENCE CAUSES ANXIETY NONETHELESS, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE.
THEY COULD BE HARMLESS, BUT THEY COULD ALSO REALISTICALLY BE A SEX OFFENDER.
WHEN A REGISTERED SEX OFFENDER VISITS ANOTHER COUNTRY FOR LESS THAN ONE WEEK, THEY DO NOT NEED TO REGISTER WITH THE JURISDICTIONS LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY.
REGISTERED SEX OFFENDERS CAN STAY AT THESE PROPERTIES WITH ANYONE KNOWING IT.
EVEN AIRBNB DECLARED IN ITS IPO DOCUMENTS THAT THEY DO NOT SCREEN OR HAVE CONTROL OVER THE USER'S ACTIONS, AND THAT I QUOTE, THE ACTIONS OF HOSTS, GUESTS, AND OTHERS HAVE RESULTED AND CAN FURTHER RESULT IN FATALITIES, INJURIES, INVASION OF PRIVACY, AND PROPERTY DAMAGE.
PLEASE DO NOT ALLOW PLANO NEIGHBORS TO BE ANXIOUS AND FEARFUL IN THEIR OWN HOMES.
PLEASE SUPPORT OPTION 4, NO NEW SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS.
I THINK YOU JUST HEARD FROM MY NEIGHBORS.
BUT WE ENDURE WITH THE TWO SHORT-TERM RENTALS THAT WE HAVE ON OUR STREET IS NOTHING SHORT OR RIDICULOUS.
IT'S NOT JUST THE PARTIES AND THE GATHERINGS AND THE TRASH AND THE CARS, IS THE UNEASINESS THAT WE FEEL GOING TO OUR MAILBOX OR WATERING OUR PLANTS, AND STRANGERS ARE STANDING OUT FRONT WATCHING US COME AND GO.
MY FAMILY WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE WATCHED THE RECENT ECLIPSE, LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.
BUT THERE WAS AN ECLIPSE PARTY NEXT DOOR, AND THE POT SMOKE AND THE NOISE RAN US OFF.
EVEN IF WE CALL THE POLICE, THE FEAR OF RETALIATION IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS REAL.
I DON'T THINK IT'S A COINCIDENCE THE DAY AFTER I PUT MY BAN SHORT-TERM RENTAL SIGN IN MY YARD, THE WINDOW ABOVE MY FRONT DOOR WAS SHOT OUT.
IT'S WHAT WE LIVE WITH, WE KNOW OUR PROBLEM IS GOING TO BE GRANDFATHERED IN.
THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE.
THE REGULATIONS, THE REGISTRATION WILL HELP, BUT THE ONLY THING WORSE THAN HAVING TWO SHORT-TERM RENTALS ON ONE STREET IS HAVING THREE SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
>> MY NAME IS PAIGE PALMER, A 30-YEAR RESIDENT OF PLANO.
THE PROPOSED ZONING, WHICH WOULD ALLOW LIVE IN SHORT-TERM RENTALS EVERY 300 FEET IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.
MY HUSBAND SERVED ON THE TASK FORCE, AND THIS PROPOSAL IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE TASK FORCE FINDINGS OR THE PLANO STR SURVEY WITH 74% OF THE RESPONDENTS SAYING THEY ARE VERY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH STRS IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.
IN FURTHER SUPPORT, A SURVEY COMMISSIONED BY THE LOCAL REAL ESTATE ASSOCIATION LAST MONTH FOUND THAT THE MAJORITY OF PLANO HOMEOWNERS HAVE AN UNFAVORABLE OPINION OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
HALF OF THOSE AWARE OF STRS IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE EXPERIENCED ISSUES.
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I'VE WORKED IN THE REAL ESTATE INDUSTRY FOR 35 YEARS.IF YOU ALLOW WHAT ARE ESSENTIALLY BOARDING HOUSES TO OPERATE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS WITH RENTALS BY THE NIGHT, OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND HOME VALUES WILL DECLINE.
SAFETY AND SECURITY IS ALSO A MAJOR CONCERN.
IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WE ALREADY EXPERIENCED THE DANGERS ASSOCIATED WITH SHORT-TERM RENTALS, WITH A GUN FIGHT AT THE STR ACROSS THE STREET.
AND IN AIRBNBS OWN 10K REPORT, THEY STATE THERE HAVE BEEN SHOOTINGS, FATALITIES, OTHER CRIMINAL VIOLENT ACTS ON PROPERTIES BOOKED ON THEIR PLATFORM.
THEY'VE HAD UNSANCTIONED HOUSE PARTIES, INCIDENTS WITH SEXUAL VIOLENCE.
THEY'VE SEEN A HIGHER RATE OF INCIDENTS WITH-
>> MS. PALMER, YOUR TIME IS UP.
>> PRIVATE ROOMS AND SHARED SPACES.
>> THE NEXT SPEAKER IS ANNE PARKER, FOLLOWED BY PAT MORGAN AND EFRAN GIRDO.
>> HELLO. I HAD A SPEECH, BUT I'M JUST GOING TO GET TO THE POINT.
IF YOU LISTEN TO THESE FOLKS, EVERYBODY'S GOT A HORROR STORY.
EVERYBODY HAS A BAD EXPERIENCE.
SO YOU GET THE GIST OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
MY WIFE AND I MOVED HERE BECAUSE WE LOVE PLANO.
PEOPLE CARE, THEY COUNT, THEY MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
WE DON'T HAVE CHILDREN, BUT EVERYBODY IN OUR STREET HAS CHILDREN, AND THEY RIDE THEIR BIKES UP AND DOWN, AND IT'S SAFE. IT'S GREAT.
WE NOW HAVE A SHORT-TERM RENTAL NEXT TO US, AND WE'VE HAD NOTHING BUT PROBLEMS. I'VE GONE OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF NIGHT, TOLD THEM.
GET OUT OF MY YARD. THEY'RE FIGHTING.
I'M A PROFESSIONAL SAFETY PERSON.
I'M CERTIFIED BY THE BOARD, COUNSEL OF THE SAFETY PROFESSIONALS, AND I GET PAID BY MAJOR CORPORATIONS TO COME IN AND TELL THEM WHERE THEIR RISK IS AND HOW TO MITIGATE IT AND HOW TO CORRECT IT.
THEN I PASS IT ON TO MANAGEMENT AND MANAGEMENT TALKS ABOUT IT, AND THEY SAY, THEY'VE GOT A VALID POINT.
LET'S MAKE IT SAFE WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME TO WORK SAFE.
THESE FOLKS ARE TALKING TO YOU.
PLEASE LISTEN TO THEM. THEY HAVE A VALID POINT.
AND I'VE LIVED IN PLANO 24 YEARS.
I'VE SERVED ON THE PLANO BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND THE PLANO SHORT-TERM RENTAL TASK FORCE.
I THINK BACK ABOUT RAISING OUR CHILDREN WHEN WE LIVED IN UNIVERSITY PARK.
THE POLICE FORCE KNEW WHERE EVERYONE LIVED, AND THEY KNEW PRACTICALLY WHO DROVE WHAT KIND OF CAR.
IT WAS A STRONG NEIGHBORHOOD FABRIC.
ALSO, AS A FULL TIME RESIDENTIAL REALTOR FOR 24 YEARS, I HAVE BUYER CLIENTS WHO WANT TO KNOW IF THERE ARE RENTALS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
MORE ESPECIALLY THEY WANT TO KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
I HAVE YET TO HAVE A BUYER WHO IS THINKING OF PURCHASING A HOME TO LIVE IN, SAY, OH, GOOD, THERE'S A SHORT-TERM RENTAL IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SAY NO TO NEW SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT ALLOW THE ONES THAT ARE HERE NOW TO BE GRANDFATHERED.
I THANK YOU. I HOPE YOU WILL USE YOUR MIND TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR PLANO AND NOT BE FEARFUL OF A LAWSUIT.
>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS EFRAN GIRDO.
I LIVE AT 3104 [INAUDIBLE] DRIVE.
I MOVED HERE FROM THE NORTH 29 YEARS.
I HAVE CHOSEN PLANO BECAUSE OF THE BLUE RIBBON SCHOOLS.
THAT'S WHY I'M HERE. THE REVISED OPTION NUMBER 2 DEFEAT ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE TAX FORCE.
WE CAN HAVE STR LITTLE MANAGEMENT WITH ONE UP TO TWO FIRE ROOM, ANY RESIDENCE CITY WISE.
I WANT ALSO TO CONGRATULATE THE PLANO ADMINISTRATION AND ALL OF YOU BECAUSE I HOPE YOU HAD TIME TO READ MY ARTICLE THAT I SENT TO YOU THIS MORNING WHERE THE CITY PLANO HAS BEEN ELECTED THE SECOND HAPPIEST CITY IN THE UNITED STATES.
THE FIRST ONE IS ARLINGTON, WE ARE THE SECOND.
AND THAT IS OPPOSED TO NUMBER 2.
WE'RE ASKING YOU, PLEASE KEEP THE CITY OF PLANO HAPPY.
PLEASE OPPOSE TO ALSO NUMBER 2.
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WE DON'T WANT STRS AND WILD PARISH AND OUR FAMILY AND NEIGHBORHOODS.FAMILY IS A BIG WAR AND I MEAN FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS.
>> THE NEXT SPEAKER IS GREG PATILLO FOLLOWED BY CAROLYN K AND PAMELA BARBERA.
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR PRO TEM AND COUNCIL, MY NAME IS GREG PATILLO.
FOR MORE THAN A DECADE, AIRBNB IN THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL INDUSTRY HAVE BEEN THE SUBJECT OF COUNTLESS STUDIES.
YOU WILL NOT FIND A SINGLE STUDY THAT SUGGESTS STRS IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND SENSE OF COMMUNITY IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE THEY DON'T.
YOU WILL FIND NUMEROUS STUDIES THAT SUGGEST THAT CRIME INCREASES WITH THE NUMBER OF STRS BECAUSE IT DOES.
YOU'VE BEEN PRESENTED WITH QUANTIFIABLE DATA THAT DEMONSTRATED THE IMPACT OF CONVERTING RESIDENTIAL HOUSING TO STRS ON PLANO SCHOOL ENROLLMENT AND BUSINESSES.
IN THE SURVEY CONDUCTED BY GAP STRATEGIES, YOU HEARD FROM MORE THAN 6,100 RESIDENTS EVENLY DISTRIBUTED ACROSS THE PLANO ZIP CODES.
RESPONSE TO THAT GAP STRATEGY SUGGESTED YOU CONSIDER HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL IN COMPARISON TO OTHER SURVEYS CONDUCTED BY LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.
IN THAT SURVEY, 74% OF RESPONDENTS TOLD YOU THAT THEY MODERATELY OR VERY UNCOMFORTABLE HAVING AN SDR ON THEIR BLOCK.
THAT'S WITH ONLY 31% KNOWING WHETHER THEY LIVE NEAR A SDR AND 44% NEVER EXPERIENCING AN ISSUE WITH AN SDR.
FOR THE 56% THAT DID EXPERIENCE AN ISSUE, ONLY 16% OF THOSE RESPONDENTS INDICATED THEY INVOLVE LAW ENFORCEMENT WHICH SUGGEST THAT CALLS FOR SERVICE REPRESENT SIGNIFICANTLY UNDER REPORTED DATA.
AT THE OTHER 84% OPTED TO INVOLVE LAW ENFORCEMENT OR CODE ENFORCEMENT, YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN RATIOS THAT WOULD HAVE SUGGESTED STRS TO BE AS HIGH AS 10-12 TIMES MORE LIKELY TO HAVE A CFS THAN NON STRS.
AND WHILE YOU'VE CERTAINLY HEARD ANECDOTES, YOU HAVE NOT BEEN PRESENTED WITH QUANTIFIABLE DATA THAT WOULD SUGGEST THE CITY WOULD REALIZE BENEFITS FROM STRS OPERATING IN SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS THAT COULD POSSIBLY JUSTIFY THE PUBLIC SAFETY, QUALITY OF LIFE, AND SENSE OF COMMUNITY IN WHICH ARE THE CORE VALUES THAT HELP MAKE PLANO THE CITY OF EXCELLENCE.
FORGOT HOW TO SAY MY NAME AFTER [LAUGHTER] ALL THESE YEARS.
MY NAME IS CAROLYN CALDO, I'VE LIVED HERE FOR 34 YEARS.
I WAS ON P&Z FOR SEVEN YEARS, TWO YEARS ON CHAIR.
BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT FOR NINE YEARS, NO TERM LIMITS, THREE YEARS AS CHAIR.
WE ALL KNOW THAT IN PLANO, WE REGULATE EVERYTHING: PARKING, ZONING, SOB'S, FOUR-CORNER RETAIL, SETBACK, SIDEWALKS, TREE TRIMMING, YARD WEEDS, HISTORICAL DISTRICTS, HOSPITAL DISTRICTS, COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS.
THIS IS WHAT WE DO AS A CITY, AND THAT'S WHY THE CITY IS AS GOOD AS IT IS NOW.
TODAY YOU ARE CONSIDERING REGULATIONS ON STR'S, JUST LIKE OTHER CITY COUNCILS DID ON ALL THOSE CATEGORIES.
EVERY CITY IS FACING THIS IN THE METROPLEX.
YES, THERE WILL PROBABLY BE SOME TYPE OF LITIGATION, BUT SO BE IT.
PLANO'S STRONG, AND HAS FACED THAT IN ALL THE CATEGORIES WE LISTED.
YOU GUYS HAVE LISTENED AS MEMBERS OF COUNCIL ON AND ON.
THE PNC RECOMMENDATION WILL AFFECT EVERY HOMEOWNER, WHETHER THEY'RE OWNER-OCCUPIED OR LONG-TERM RENTAL.
WHEN FRISCO GETS ITS ACT TOGETHER, OFFERING LITERALLY EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN, WE WILL BEAR THE BRUNT OF STR RENTERS WHO WILL TAKE THEIR BUSINESS TO FRISCO, BUT FLOOD OUR NEIGHBORHOODS WITH STRANGERS.
BE STRONG. SUPPORT OPTION 4, REJECT THE PNC RECOMMENDATION AND LEGISLATE FOR ALL OF US.
>> HI, I'M PAM BARBARA, AND I HAVE BEAT EVERYBODY, I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 1971, [LAUGHTER] AND I STILL LOVE IT, AND I'M NOT EVER LEAVING, UNTIL EVER.
I JUST WANTED Y'ALL TO KNOW, IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN TO THE MUSICAL [INAUDIBLE] THERE'S A SONG IN THERE CALLED LISTEN TO THE BEATING OF THE DRUM, THIS IS THE BEATING OF THE DRUM Y'ALL.
THIS IS WHAT WE DON'T WANT [APPLAUSE] THE BAD STUFF, WE WANT THIS.
PLEASE LISTEN TO WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT AND KEEP US A HAPPY TOWN.
>> [LAUGHTER] I HAVE A BAD BACK, I GOT TO GO HOME AND GET ON ICE.
>> THE NEXT SPEAKER IS SHARON ELBERL, FOLLOWED BY ALEX STEIN AND LYNN MCLIMAN.
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I URGE YOU TO MAINTAIN YOUR CURRENT BAN ON STR'S.
I WATCHED THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING, AND I'VE NEVER SEEN A BAIT AND SWITCH LIKE I DID AT THAT MEETING.
MR. DOWNS CHANGED DISTANCE FROM ANOTHER STR FROM A 600 FEET-300 FEET, AND ALSO INCLUDED MULTIPLE ROOMS IN THE LAST 15 MINUTES THAT DO NOT REQUIRE SUP.
THERE IS NO RIGHT TO RUN A HOTEL IN A SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD DESPITE WHAT THE CROOK AND AUSTIN KEEP SAYING.
IF YOU COLLECT A HOTEL TAX IT IS A HOTEL.
NO MENTION WAS EVEN MADE ABOUT MULTIPLE BOOKINGS VERSUS RENTING TO ONE FAMILY WHO NEEDS SEVERAL ROOMS. THIS IS A SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE ONSITE MANAGER SHOULD HAVE TO BE THE OWNER ON THE TITLE OF THE MORTGAGE, WHICH I'VE BEEN TOLD YOU CAN'T EVEN ENFORCE.
WHEN A HOMEOWNER CAN HIRE A HOTEL MANAGER TO MANAGE THE HOUSE AS AN STR, THEN THE ARGUMENT THAT THE HOMEOWNER SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO RENT OUT A ROOM TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD HIS HOME IS RIDICULOUS.
WHEN YOU ARE RENTING OUT THE HOUSE TO MULTIPLE FAMILIES, IT IS NO LONGER A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE.
NOTE, I AM ONLY ALLOWED TO HAVE TWO GARAGE SALES PERMITS A YEAR.
THE ARGUMENT IS THAT THEY DO NOT WANT PEOPLE TO USE GARAGE SALES TO HAVE A HOME BUSINESS THAT IS SELLING GOODS.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO ALLOW HOTELS.
>> KEEP YOUR BAN IN PLACE AND REVIEW OPTIONS AGAIN.
>> ALEX STEIN? WE WILL GO ON TO LYNN MCLIMAN.
I'M LINDA MCLIMAN, AND I'VE LIVED IN PLANO, FOR THE LAST 28 YEARS.
PLEASE VOTE NO ON THE P&Z AMENDED ORDINANCE.
THE AMENDED ORDINANCE HAS TWO MAIN FLAWS.
THE FIRST FLAW IS IT ALLOWS STRS IN ALMOST EVERY HOUSE IN SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE PUTS THE INTEREST OF INVESTORS AND PEOPLE USING THEIR HOUSE AS A WAY TO MAKE MONEY AS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE PEOPLE WHO BOUGHT A HOUSE IN PLANO TO MAKE IT THEIR HOME.
STR OWNERS MAKE MONEY FROM THEIR STRS.
BUT NEIGHBORS WHO LIVE BY THE STRS PAY A PRICE FROM HAVING AN STR IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THAT PRICE COMES IN THE FORM OF NOT FEELING AS SAFE IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND A LOWER QUALITY OF LIFE DUE TO STRANGERS COMING AND GOING, EXCESSIVE NOISE, AND MORE CARS PARKED ON NARROW STREETS.
THE SECOND FLAW OF THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE ASSUMES THAT ALL STR OWNERS.
>> WILL BE HONEST ABOUT LIVING IN THE STR HOUSE, EVEN WHEN THEIR PRIMARY RESIDENCE IS LEGALLY LISTED AT A DIFFERENT ADDRESS, OR THEY OWN SEVERAL STRS, OR DON'T EVEN LIVE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.
IN CONCLUSION, PLEASE DO NOT PUT STR PROFITS OVER PEOPLE.
PLEASE VOTE NO ON THE P&Z ORDINANCE, AND KEEP ANY NEW STRS OUT OF SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
>> THE NEXT SPEAKER IS JAMES FONTAINE, FOLLOWED BY JOHN ARBUCKLE, AND SCOTT GOBLE.
>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JAMES FONTAINE, I'VE LIVED IN PLANO SINCE 1980, NOT AS LONG AS, WELL, SHE'S MISSING, SO I GUESS I'M THE LEADER NOW.
I'VE LIVED HERE FOR 44 YEARS, AND I'VE CHERISHED THREE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS THAT I'VE LIVED IN QUITE A BIT.
BUT THE RISE OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS THREATENS THE SANCTITY OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS WHICH WE'VE LOVED FOR SO LONG.
PROPONENTS OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS THEY'RE NOT HERE DEFENDING THEIR EXISTING PROPERTY, THOSE ARE GOING TO BE GRANDFATHERED IN.
MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT STRS ARE BUSINESS.
I'VE BEEN AN ENTREPRENEUR OF MY WHOLE LIFE, I THINK IT'S ADMIRABLE, BUT THEY'RE A BUSINESS, AND THE BUSINESSES ARE ADVOCATING NOT FOR THEIR CURRENT INVESTMENT, FOR THE NEXT INVESTMENT, FOR THE NEXT STR, FOR THE TENTH STR.
LET'S PAINT A PICTURE OF THE FUTURE, WHERE EVERY SINGLE BLOCK IN EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD IS PEPPERED WITH THESE SHORT-TERM RENTALS, AND OUR NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE BECOME BUSINESS DISTRICTS.
WELL, SO WHAT THE HECK? I DECIDE TO CONVERT MY HOUSE, I'M AN EMPTY NESTER, INTO A BUSINESS VENTURE IN WEST PLANO.
HOW ABOUT A WEST PLANO PAWN SHOP? I THINK THAT COULD BE A VERY GOOD MARKET FOR THAT.
MAYBE I'LL ADD A BYOB LITTLE JAZZ CLUB AT NIGHT BECAUSE EVERY OTHER HOUSE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS AN STR.
WHY NOT? IT'S MY PROPERTY, I HAVE RIGHTS.
>> THIS MAY SEEM REALLY CRAZY, BUT IT'S NOT.
HOW IS THIS DIFFERENT FROM THE PROBLEMS CAUSED BY SHORT-TERM RENTALS WITH TRANSIENT TRAFFIC, LATE-NIGHT DISTURBANCES, EVEN GUNSHOTS, AS WE'VE HEARD.
I URGE COUNSEL TO SAY NO TO PAWNSHOPS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD,
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NO TO NIGHTCLUBS IN THE BACKYARD, AND NO NEW SHORT-TERM RENTALS.>> HELLO. MY NAME IS JOHN ARBUCKLE, AND NO, I DON'T OWN GARFIELD, SO SAFE ON THAT ONE.
I'M NEW HERE, I'VE ONLY BEEN HERE FOR TWO YEARS.
I MOVED IN AND MY FIRST MEETING WAS OVER IN THE CITY COUNCIL HALL.
I WAS A STRANGER, NOW I HAVE GOOD FRIENDS HERE, LOTS OF THEM.
I MOVED TO PLANO FOR THIS VERY REASON.
I KNOW WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT AS RESIDENTS.
I GUESS WHAT I WOULD HAVE TO SAY TO YOU ALL IS I CHALLENGE YOU TO FIND THE RIGHT SOLUTION THAT WORKS.
I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO BE PROBABLY SUED, WE'LL HAVE LITIGATION CASES AND SO ON.
BUT IT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICE.
I THINK THERE'S AN OVERWHELMING OPINION SHARED BY ALL THE RESIDENTS WHO ELECTED ALL THE PEOPLE HERE TO MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICE, AND TO CHALLENGE THE CORPORATION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR PRO TEM PRINCE, ESTEEMED PLANO CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF.
MY NAME IS SCOTT GOBLE AND I'M A RESIDENT OF PLANO AND PRESIDENT OF QUELL CREEK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
I LIVE AT 65-20 PHEASANT RUN ROAD.
IS A THREE TIME PLANO CITY COUNCIL APPOINTEE TO FSS PLANO PARKS AND REC AND CURRENTLY PLANO LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD.
IT'S ALWAYS BEEN MY GOAL TO INTERACT WITH THE CITIZENS AND BRING THEM THE BEST AND MOST RECENT INFORMATION AND BE A VOICE FOR THEM.
MY WIFE, DIANE, COULD NOT BE HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE SHE'S VOLUNTEERING WITH CULTURAL ARCH DOING SCORING, WHICH SHE WILL BE UP PAST MIDNIGHT.
BUT IF SHE WERE HERE BETWEEN SHE AND I, WE WOULD BE REPRESENTING MORE THAN A COUPLE HUNDRED PEOPLE.
IT'S NOT JUST SHE AND I, IT'S SHE AND I AND THE PEOPLE THAT WE SPEAK WITH.
TO THE MANY CITIZENS, I'M IN CONTACT, ALL ARE AGAINST STRS.
THE STRS ARE GREAT UNTIL ONE IS YOUR NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR.
PERHAPS THE GREATEST NEGATIVE IS THE ABILITY TO ENFORCE WHAT P&Z HAS PROPOSED.
HAVE PEOPLE COME IN, LET THEM GO, AND THEY'LL COME BACK.
WELL, HAVE PEOPLE SAY THEY'RE GOING TO MANAGE THEIR HOMES, BUT MAYBE THEY WON'T BE THERE.
HAVE THE NEIGHBORS CALL POLICE, LOOK AT ALL THE DIFFERENT POTENTIAL ISSUES.
PLEASE SUPPORT OPTION 4. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS MR. GOBLE.
THE NEXT SPEAKER IS PAM HOLLAND, FOLLOWED BY LISA WILLIAMS AND ERIC KILLINGSTAD.
>> I'M PAM HOLLAND, LONGTIME RESIDENT OF PLANO, ABOUT 35 PLUS OF THOSE YEARS I'VE BEEN A TIRELESS NEIGHBORHOOD ADVOCATE FOR HIGHLAND PARK.
MY BROTHER AND I WHEN WE WERE KIDS, WE WERE TERRIFIED OF SLEEPING IN THE FAR UPSTAIRS BEDROOM UNDER THE EAVES OF MY GRANDMOTHER'S HOUSE AND ON TOP FOR OF MY HOUSE.
THE REASON WE WERE SO SCARED OF SLEEPING DOWN THERE WAS THERE WAS A LITTLE KNEE WALL CLOSET AND WE KNEW FOR SURE, NO MATTER WHAT GROWN UP SAID, THERE WERE ERRORS IN THERE.
WE WOULD WAKE MY GRANDMOTHER UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT TO GO CHECK ON IT.
THOSE THINGS MADE US FEEL A LOT BETTER, LIKE WE WERE SOLVING OUR PROBLEM.
IF WE HAD KNOWN HOW TO DO THIS, I GUARANTEE YOU WE WOULD HAVE BEEN DOWN AT HOUSTON CITY HALL, KEEPING BIO CITY CHILDREN SAFE FROM THE HORRORS THAT LAY IN THAT CLOSET.
THOSE THINGS MADE US FEEL LIKE WE WERE DOING SOMETHING, AND WE WERE SCARED, BUT IT TURNED OUT THOSE THINGS REALLY DIDN'T FIX ANYTHING.
WHAT FIXED IT IS OUR GRANDMOTHER FINALLY DRAGGING US, OPENING THAT A CLOSET, LETTING US GO IN THERE, LEARN HOW EAVES WERE CONSTRUCTED, AND WE FOUND SOME COOL TOYS IN THERE.
GREAT. I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT TO DECIDE, I CAME DOWN, REGISTERED AS OPPOSED TO THESE ITEMS, JUST BECAUSE I WANT YOU TO BE CAREFUL THAT YOU MAKE SURE WHAT YOU'RE DOING REALLY DOES SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
A REAL RESEARCHER WOULD TAKE THE LEANEST APPROACH.
THEY WOULD DO WHAT WE ALREADY KNOW WORKS,
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FOCUS ON LIVE IN MANAGEMENT, KEEP THAT GOING FOR A WHILE, BUILD IN A SUNSET PROVISION, AND COME BACK AND REVISIT A YEAR AND SEE IF WE NEED TO FIX IT.WE TRUST YOU TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT. THANK YOU.
>> GOOD EVENING CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS LISA MARIE WILLIAMS. I REPRESENT MYSELF, MY HUSBAND, MY THREE CHILDREN WHO ARE ALSO HOMEOWNERS IN THE WONDERFUL CITY OF EXCELLENCE OF PLANO AND 142 HOMEOWNERS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD OF GLEN HOLLOW ESTATES.
I LIVE IN A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH HAS LIMITS AND RESTRICTIONS.
FOR INSTANCE, IF I WANT TO BUILD A GAZEBO IN MY BACKYARD, I HAVE TO APPLY FOR A PERMIT, PAY A FEE, GET CITY COUNCIL OR GET CITY APPROVAL FOR THE DIMENSIONS AND THE DISTANCE FROM MY NEIGHBOR'S FENCE.
IN THIS PERFECTLY PLANNED AND ZONED CITY, I ABIDE BY THE LIMITS, AND I BELIEVE MY NEIGHBORS SHOULD ALSO DO THE SAME.
THEY SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO USE THEIR HOUSE IN A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND MAKE IT INTO A HOTEL BUSINESS.
THANK YOU. PLEASE VOTE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE MAJORITY OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
>> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS ERIC KILLINGSTAD AND I'VE LIVED IN PLANO 21 YEARS.
I ASK YOU SIMPLY THAT YOU KEEP SHORT-TERM RENTALS OUT OF SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS.
THE TRANSIENT NATURE OF THE OCCUPANTS OF THESE HOUSES DETRACTS FROM THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF OUR NEIGHBORS.
I KNOW MY NEIGHBORS AND THEY KNOW ME.
THIS FAMILIARITY AND TRUST IS ESSENTIAL, AND A CONSTANT STREAM OF STRANGERS IS NOT WHAT I ENVISIONED WHEN I BOUGHT MY HOME.
PLEASE VOTE FOR OPTION 4 AND PROTECT FAMILY LIFE IN PLANO. THANK YOU.
>> THE NEXT SPEAKER IS GENE GOODWIN, FOLLOWED BY KRISTIN REINACHER AND COREY REINACHER.
>> I'M NOT A PUBLIC SPEAKER, SO HERE I GO.
GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL. I'M GENE GOODWIN.
I LIVE AT 45-13 FARGO DRIVE IN PLANO, 75-093 ZIP CODE, AND I HAVE LIVED MORE OF MY LIFE IN PLANO THAN ANYWHERE ELSE.
I BOUGHT MY HOME 23 YEARS AGO TO LIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD ENVIRONMENT WITH NEIGHBORS AND TO BUILD COMMUNITY.
I CRINGE WHEN ANY RENTAL LEASE COMES UP IN THE STREETS NEAREST ME, NOT KNOWING WHO WILL MOVE IN AND WHAT TRAFFIC AND NOISE WILL BE BROUGHT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS IS THE SAME THOUGHT PATTERN I HAVE WHEN IT COMES TO STRS.
NOT KNOWING WHAT THE WEEKEND WILL BRING WITH TRAFFIC, PARKING, NOISE, TRASH THROWN OUT, ARGUMENTS, AND OTHER POSSIBLE VIOLENT ACTS.
I AM OPPOSED TO THE P&Z PROPOSAL, NO NEW SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN OUR PLANO NEIGHBORHOODS.
I AM IN FAVOR OF THE OPTION NUMBER 4 THAT'S PRESENTED TONIGHT.
I BELIEVE A LOT OF WORK HAS GONE INTO THIS PROCESS THIS PAST TWO YEARS.
I BELIEVE THIS IS THE BEST OPTION FOR PLANO TO CONTINUE TO BE THE CITY OF EXCELLENCE.
I ASK THAT YOU TAKE WHAT IS GOOD FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND NOT FOR COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU.
>> GOOD EVENING. I'M KRISTIN REINACHER.
I HAVE OWNED MY HOME IN PLANO FOR OVER 12 YEARS.
I SERVED ON THE TASK FORCE ON THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL TASK FORCE AS ONE OF FOUR SHORT-TERM RENTAL ADVOCATES.
DURING THE PROCESS, I FELT NOT ONLY OUTNUMBERED BUT ALSO OVERWHELMED BY THE LOUDER ANTI SHORT-TERM RENTAL MEMBERS.
FROM THE FIRST MEETING, A SUPER MAJORITY OF MEMBERS EXPRESSED THEIR DESIRE TO BAN SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
I ACTED IN GOOD FAITH, HOPING FOR A PRODUCTIVE AND AMICABLE OUTCOME, MAKING COMPROMISES, EVEN WHEN I FELT THAT I WAS BEING PRESSURED TO GO ALONG WITH THE GROUP, I TRUSTED IN THE CITY IN THIS PROCESS THAT MY VOICE WOULD MATTER.
NOW THAT I HAVE SEEN THE ORDINANCES, IT IS CLEAR THAT BOTH SIDES WERE NOT EQUITABLY REPRESENTED.
I FEEL THE NEED TO STEP FORWARD TO REPORT MY EXPERIENCE ON THE TASK FORCE.
DESPITE BEST INTENTIONS, IT SUFFERED FROM FLAWED, EXECUTION AND DID NOT PRODUCE AN ACCURATE, BALANCED AND FACT DRIVEN REPORT.
AT TIMES, I FELT BADGERED AND BULLIED INTO AGREEMENT UPON STATEMENTS OR WORDING DESPITE MY STRONG DISAGREEMENT.
I ACQUIESCED WHEN IT WAS CLEAR MY DISAGREEMENTS WOULD MAKE NO DIFFERENCE.
I WAS LED TO BELIEVE THAT MY OBJECTIONS WOULD BE REFLECTED IN THIS FINAL REPORT, AND IT WAS NOT.
THE PROPOSED REGULATIONS ARE EXCESSIVE AND UNFAIRLY DISCRIMINATORY AGAINST SHORT-TERM RENTAL OWNERS AND IMPOSE EXCESSIVE BURDENS ON PROPERTY OWNERS.
I SUPPORT COMMON SENSE RULES THAT PROTECT NEIGHBORHOODS AND RESPONSIBLE HOSTS.
I ASK THAT YOU SLOW THIS PROCESS DOWN AND DIRECT
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STAFF TO SOLICIT FEEDBACK FROM THE KEY STAKEHOLDERS LIKE US, SHORT-TERM RENTAL HOSTS. THANK YOU.>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR PRO TEM AND COUNSEL.
I'M A 12-YEAR PLANO HOMEOWNER.
I SPEAK ON BEHALF OF MYSELF IN THE PLANO SHORT-TERM RENTAL ALLIANCE OF WHICH I'M A FOUNDING MEMBER.
WE ARE OPPOSED TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE AS CURRENTLY WRITTEN.
WE SUPPORT THE FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT OF PLANO RESIDENTS PROTECTED BY THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION TO RENT SPACE WITHIN THEIR PRIMARY RESIDENCE FOR ANY LENGTH OF TIME.
WE SUPPORT THE FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT OF PROPERTY OWNERS TO RENT THEIR ENTIRE PROPERTY IN WAYS THAT ARE COMPATIBLE WITH SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE.
THE DATA DOES NOT SUPPORT THE RESTRICTIVENESS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE BEFORE YOU.
DALLAS CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED ZONING AND REGISTRATION ORDINANCES LAST YEAR.
THOSE ORDINANCES ARE CURRENTLY ENJOINED IN PART BECAUSE THE ORDINANCES ARE UNCONSTITUTIONALLY DISCRIMINATE AGAINST STR OWNERS.
THIS BAN OF NEW OFFSITE MANAGED STRS IN ALL SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS IS SIMILARLY DISCRIMINATORY AND WITHOUT FACTUAL BASIS.
I OBSERVED EVERY TASK FORCE MEETING.
I WATCHED AT THE JANUARY 17TH MEETING AS A FACILITATOR HAMMERED THE TASK FORCE WITH QUESTIONS ABOUT COMMUNITY FABRIC.
THIS INTERROGATION, LEADING MEMBERS TO SAY THE RIGHT WORDS AND PHRASES, UNDERPINS THE SECTION OF THE PHASE 2 REPORT THAT FINDS STRS ARE INAPPROPRIATE IN SINGLE FAMILY ZONES.
THE MINUTES REFLECT THIS DISCOURSE SIMPLY AS DISCUSSION WAS HELD.
IT IS NOT DATA. IT IS FABRICATION.
IT IS UNACCEPTABLE FOR A CITY OF EXCELLENCE TO USE SUCH AS A BASIS FOR RESTRICTING FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS.
I URGE YOU TO PAUSE THIS PROCESS AND TAKE THE TIME TO GET IT RIGHT. THANK YOU.
>> THE LAST SPEAKER IN THIS SECTION IS WILL TARRANT.
>> GOOD EVENING, COUNSEL, MAYOR PRO TEM.
I'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE AS A MATTER OF PRINCIPLE TO YOU THIS EVENING.
NOT A MOTION, NOT UNFUNDED SPECULATION, NOT UNSCIENTIFIC SURVEYS, NOT ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE, NOT A PERSONAL AGENDA.
AT THE HEART OF THIS ISSUE IS THE FUNDAMENTAL PRINCIPLE OF PROPERTY RIGHTS.
PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE THE AUTONOMY TO DECIDE HOW TO UTILIZE THEIR OWN PROPERTY, WHETHER IT BE FOR LONG TERM RENTAL, SHORT-TERM RENTAL, A HOME OFFICE, A DAYCARE, A DOG GROOMING BUSINESS, OR ANY OTHER PURPOSE THAT ALIGNS WITH THEIR INTERESTS AND THEIR NEEDS, AS LONG AS IT DOES NOT INHERENTLY INFRINGE ON ANYONE ELSE'S.
SECONDLY, SHORT-TERM RENTALS HELP MAKE HOUSING AFFORDABLE FOR THE PEOPLE IN PLANO WHO ALREADY LIVE HERE.
HOUSING AFFORDABILITY IS NOT AN ISSUE UNIQUE TO PLANO, BUT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE OUR RESIDENTS SOME RELIEF, AND IT DOESN'T COST TAXPAYERS A DIME.
IN FACT, IT ACTUALLY CONTRIBUTES TO TAX REVENUES, AND IT PROVIDES ADDITIONAL INCOME FOR PROPERTY OWNERS MAKING THE EVER INCREASING COST OF HOMEOWNERSHIP SO POSSIBLE FOR MANY.
LASTLY, ON THE TOPIC OF PROBLEMATIC RENTALS.
THE ONLY WAY TO REASONABLY ADDRESS THIS IS ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS, NOT SWEEPING REGULATIONS THAT PENALIZE EVERYONE.
AGAIN, IF SOMEONE IS COMPROMISING SOMEONE ELSE'S QUALITY OF LIFE, SUCH AS NOISE OR PARKING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, LUCKILY, WE ALREADY HAVE MUNICIPAL CODES AND ORDINANCES THAT CAN ENFORCE THOSE TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES.
WE DON'T PUNISH THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF PEOPLE FOR THE 1% CAUSING PROBLEMS ON OTHER ISSUES.
WHY WOULD WE DO THAT ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE? I URGE YOU TO CONSIDER THIS TO BECOME A REASONABLE AND A DATA DRIVEN APPROACH TO ADDRESSING THESE CONCERNS.
I KNOW CITY COUNCIL HAS THIS CITY'S BEST INTEREST IN MIND, AND I ASK YOU NOT TO INFRINGE ON OUR CITIZENS RIGHTS TO MAKE A LIVING AND A LIFE IN THE CITY OF EXCELLENCE. THANKS SO MUCH.
>> I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND WE WILL OPEN UP DISCUSSION FOR THE COUNCIL.
WE'LL JUST GO AROUND AND WE CAN SHARE OUR COMMENTS.
COUNCIL MEMBER RICCIARDELLI WOULD YOU LIKE TO START, AND IF WE CAN KEEP OUR COMMENTS TO TWO MINUTES IF WE CAN, THAT'LL BE GREAT
>> CERTAINLY. I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FIRST, BUT THEN I'LL GIVE SOME BRIEF COMMENTS.
I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM MY UNDERSTANDING ON A FEW THINGS.
THE FIRST IS THAT, WE'VE TALKED A LOT DURING THIS PROCESS FROM THE INCEPTION ABOUT THE ARLINGTON MODEL.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE ARLINGTON ORDINANCE DOES NOT HAVE THE LIVE IN VERSUS OFF SITE MANAGEMENT DISTINCTION THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IN THE P&Z PROPOSAL. IS THAT CORRECT?
>> I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE OTHERS THAT DO KNOW. I'M SORRY.
>> COUNCILMAN, I THINK THE ARLINGTON MODEL WAS MORE THE ARLINGTON PROCESS VERSUS SOME OF THE ORDINANCE LANGUAGE, BECAUSE I THINK THERE WERE SOME DIFFERENCES IN SOME OF THAT.
>> CERTAINLY, I'M JUST ONE COUNCIL MEMBER, BUT I THINK ARLINGTON HAS HAD A SUCCESSFUL ORDINANCE, SO I THINK EVEN SUBSTANTIVELY,
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I WAS INTERESTED IN THE CONTENT OF THE ARLINGTON ORDINANCE.THEN JUST TO CONFIRM MY UNDERSTANDING, I BELIEVE THAT THE P&Z MEETING, NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES DIRECTOR HOWARD, WAS ASKED, CAN WE ENFORCE THE LIVE IN REQUIREMENT? CAN WE BE SURE THAT FOR PROPERTIES THAT ARE DESIGNATED AS LIVE IN MANAGED STRS THAT THE LIVE IN MANAGER IS THERE AND THE ANSWER IF I REMEMBER THAT VIDEO CORRECTLY.
PLEASE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, DIRECTOR HOWARD, BUT WAS THAT NO, WE REALLY DON'T HAVE A MECHANISM FOR ENFORCING THAT. IS THAT CORRECT?
>> I SAW DIRECTOR HOWARD ANSWERING IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. SORRY. WHAT WAS IT?
>> YEAH, DIFFICULT TO ENFORCE THAT.
I ALSO WANT TO MENTION, I HAD A GREAT CALL LAST WEEK WITH ARLINGTON CITY COUNCIL MEMBER BOWIE HOGG.
I TALKED WITH THEM FOR ABOUT HALF AN HOUR.
HE WAS VERY NICE TO SHARE THEIR EXPERIENCE WITH THEIR ORDINANCE.
ONE, WAS THAT IN THE PAST TWO YEARS, HE COULD ONLY RECALL ONE COMPLAINT FROM EITHER SIDE OF THE ISSUE ABOUT STRS.
CLEARLY, ARLINGTON HAS A SOLUTION THAT'S WORKING FOR PEOPLE, BOTH STR OPERATORS AND NEIGHBORHOODS.
HE TOLD ME THAT THE BIGGEST THING WAS THAT THEY HAD BEEN CLEAR ABOUT STRS CAN GO HERE, STRS CAN'T GO THERE.
YOU CAN HAVE THIS STR HERE AND THAT STR THERE, OR WE MIGHT APPROVE THIS BY SUP.
I THINK WHEN WE LOOK AT ADMINISTRATIVE SIMPLICITY, THAT'S REALLY CRITICAL.
I LIKE OPTION 4, THAT SO MANY SPEAKERS HAVE TALKED ABOUT AT LEAST CONCEPTUALLY IN BROAD BRUSH STROKES.
I THINK WE NEED TO SAY THAT WE SHOULD NOT HAVE NEW STRS IN SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S A COMPATIBLE USE.
I THINK IF WE HAVE A PROCESS FOR SUPS, WE'RE SETTING OURSELVES UP FOR CONTENTIOUS DEBATES AND A HUGE ADMINISTRATIVE BURDEN THAT I JUST DON'T THINK IS BENEFICIAL TO THE CITY OF PLANO.
MOREOVER, I THINK THAT IF WE HAVE A LIVE IN MANAGEMENT VERSUS OFF SITE MANAGEMENT DISTINCTION, THAT THERE'S REALLY NO PRACTICAL WAY TO ENFORCE, THEN WE'RE SETTING OURSELVES UP FOR PROBLEMS ALSO.
AS A SIMPLE SOLUTION, I JUST THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE DATA THAT WE'VE GATHERED THROUGH THIS ENTIRE PROCESS.
KEEP IN MIND THE IMPORTANCE OF A COMMUNITY FABRIC OF HAVING NEIGHBORS AROUND, KEEP IN MIND ALL OF THE WORK THE TASK FORCE HAS DONE, AND THEN KEEP IN MIND OTHER THINGS, LIKE THE FACT THAT PISD'S SCHOOL FUNDING IS BASED ON THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS THAT ARE IN SCHOOLS.
RESIDENTIAL USES THAT CREATE STUDENTS ARE BENEFICIAL TO PISDS FUNDING, AND ALSO THE POINT THAT WAS MADE ABOUT SEX OFFENDERS NOT HAVING TO REGISTER WHEN THEY'RE IN A PROPERTY ON A VERY SHORT BASIS.
FOR ALL OF THOSE REASONS AND SO MANY OTHER PROPERTY VALUES AND MANY OTHERS, I JUST THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT OPTION 4 AND GO FOR SIMPLICITY, GET RID OF THE SUP PROCESS, GET RID OF THE LIVE IN MANAGEMENT VERSUS OFFSITE MANAGEMENT DISTINCTION, AND JUST SAY, THERE ARE CERTAIN AREAS WHERE WE CAN HAVE STRS IN THE CITY OF PLANO, BUT IN SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS, STRS ARE NOT APPROPRIATE.
THAT'S HOW I WOULD VOTE. THANK YOU.
IS THAT A MOTION, COUNCIL MEMBER RICCIARDELLI?
>> I WAS GOING TO WAIT UNTIL EVERYBODY HAD COMMENTED, BUT I'M HAPPY TO PUT A MOTION ON THE TABLE TO PASS THAT OPTION.
>> THANK YOU DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER HORNE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE YOUR COMMENTS?
>> WELL, THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER RICCIARDELLI, I APPRECIATE THAT.
I'M GOING TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
I AM VERY CONFLICTED ABOUT PROPERTY RIGHTS, AND THE INTEGRITY OF A NEIGHBORHOOD.
LOVE MY HOME, LOVE THE NEIGHBORS.
THEY'RE ALL GREAT. I'M FORTUNATE.
I DO NOT HAVE ANYONE WHO IS RENTING AN STR, THOUGH THE MAP SAYS THERE IS SEVERAL AROUND MY HOUSE, BUT I LOOKED AND CHECKED ON THEM AND THROUGH AIRBNB AND VRBO AND DID NOT FIND ANY LISTINGS THERE.
BUT WE ARE RELYING ON THE DATA THAT THE SUBCONTRACTOR PROVIDED US, AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE MAKING OUR DECISIONS.
IT'S ALMOST LIKE WE'RE EITHER GOING TO BE SUED NOW OR SUED LATER.
IF WE DO OPTION 4, WE WILL BE SUED.
YOU HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT AS CITIZENS THAT,
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THAT MONEY IS GOING TO GO TO ATTORNEYS INSTEAD OF PUTTING OVERLAY ON YOUR ROADS.THAT'S A FACT. IF YOU'RE GOOD WITH POTHOLES AND THAT, I DON'T WANT TO SEE YOUR COMMENTS ON NEXT DOOR.
YOU'RE EITHER GOING TO SUE ME NOW OR SUE ME LATER.
THE OPTION 4 SEEMS TO APPEASE ALL OF YOU BUT IT DOES CONFLICT WITH MY POSITION ON PROPERTY RIGHTS.
I FELT LIKE OPTION 2 WAS A GOOD GO BETWEEN THERE.
IN THAT, WE WERE GOING TO RESTRICT STRS AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS.
BUT NOW I UNDERSTAND THAT THE LATEST COURT CASES ARE GOING TO MAKE NO DISTINCTION BETWEEN LIVE IN STRS AND OFFSITE STRS.
THAT PUTS US IN ANOTHER QUAGMIRE.
BUT WITH THAT BEING THE CASE, I WILL GO WITH OPTION 4 AS PRESENTED.
>> WELL, EVERYBODY ALREADY KNOW MY POSITION BECAUSE I SECOND COUNSEL RICCIARDELLI'S MOTION.
BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY, MR. POLIAN, YOU KNOW THAT AFTER YOU LEFT IN THE MORNING, I CONTINUED TO STAY FOR THE TRIAL UNTIL I CAME HERE.
I WAS HURRYING ANTHONY ALONG, NOT BECAUSE I THINK THAT ANTHONY GETS PAID BY THE WORD, BUT RATHER, I AM LITERALLY CLOSING MY EYES AS WE GO, AND TOMORROW MORNING, I AM EXPECTED IN COURT AT 8:30 IN THE MORNING.
I REALLY WOULD HOPE THAT IF WE CAN WRAP THIS UP.
I BELIEVE THE SECOND HEARING THE MAYOR WILL BE HERE.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I AM HERE FOR THIS MOST IMPORTANT VOTE FOR EVERYBODY, INCLUDING MY NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
>> I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF. I AM A STRONG BELIEVER IN PROPERTY RIGHTS, AND SINCE THIS ISSUE FIRST CAME ONTO MY RADAR, THE PROPERTY RIGHTS I'VE BEEN MOST CONCERNED ABOUT ARE HOMEOWNERS WHO SOUGHT AN ACTUAL HOME IN AN ACTUAL NEIGHBORHOOD WITH AN ACTUAL COMMUNITY FABRIC.
EVEN OUR POLICE TELL US, KNOW YOUR NEIGHBORS, THREE IN FRONT, THREE BEHIND, AND THE ONES ON EITHER SIDES.
THAT'S FOR COMMUNITY FABRIC, THAT'S FOR SAFETY, THAT'S STAPLE ITEM.
I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT IT WAS CORRECTLY SAID THAT A LOT OF THE IN FAVOR RESPONSES WE GOT, YOU READ THROUGH THOSE.
THEY'RE ALMOST ALL IN FAVOR OF THE OPTION 3 THAT WAS PRESENTED TO PLANNING AND ZONING, NOT WHAT WAS ACTUALLY PASSED BY PLANNING AND ZONING.
I'M IN FAVOR OF OPTION 4. I'LL SKIP TO THE PUNCH LINE.
[APPLAUSE] BECAUSE AS WE'VE HEARD SO OFTEN FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, EVEN IF THERE IS NOT A PARTY HOUSE NEXT DOOR, THE UNCERTAINTY CREATED BY NOT KNOWING WHO IS THERE REALLY WREAKS HAVOC ON A NEIGHBORHOOD.
LOOK NO FURTHER THAN WALL STREET.
WALL STREET HATES UNCERTAINTY MORE THAN ALMOST ANYTHING ELSE.
THE SAME APPLIES TO NEIGHBORHOODS.
>> ACTUALLY, I ADD A LOT OF COMMENTS, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT I WANT TO DEAL WITH THE WRATH OF MARIA TONIGHT, SO I WILL KEEP IT SHORT.
I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID.
SECOND HEARING? CLARIFICATION ON THE SECOND HEARING.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST DEALING WITH THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
>> ON THE ZONING, I ALSO AM IN FAVOR OF FOUR, BUT WITH A CAVEAT.
THE POINT HAS BEEN MADE MANY TIMES ABOUT YOUR HOME BEING THE LARGEST INVESTMENT THAT YOU MAKE AND THAT WE WANT PEOPLE THAT ARE HOMEOWNERS AROUND US AND WANT TO KNOW WHO OUR NEIGHBORS ARE.
THAT BEING SAID, MY EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN IN TALKING TO THOSE WHO ARE OPPOSED TO THE SHORT-TERM RENTALS, MOST OF THE ISSUES ARE WITH THE NON OWNER OCCUPIED.
I THINK MOST PEOPLE WHO WANT TO RENT OUT A ROOM ARE DOING SO BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO SUPPLEMENT PAYING THE MORTGAGE.
I DON'T WANT TO OPEN OURSELVES UP FOR LIABILITIES OR ADDITIONAL LITIGATION, I'D RATHER LET OTHER CITIES PAY FOR THAT AND LET US LEARN FROM THEIR EXPERIENCES.
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BUT I ALSO WANT TO LEAVE THE DOOR OPEN TO REVISIT DOWN THE ROAD, MAYBE MAKING IT POSSIBLE TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NOT BEEN GRANDFATHERED IN TO RENT TO ROOM IF IT MEANS BEING ABLE TO STAY IN THEIR HOME, SINCE WE ARE THE STATE SECOND TO CALIFORNIA WITH THE BIGGEST AFFORDABLE HOUSING ISSUE AND SHORTAGE.THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I FEEL LIKE IS IMPORTANT.
THAT BEING SAID, I WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL IS REFERRING TO ANY PROPERTY THAT'S 30 DAYS OR LESS.
IF YOU ARE A HOMEOWNER THAT NEEDS TO SUPPLEMENT AND YOU DON'T WANT TO COMMIT TO A ROOMMATE, YOU COULD RENT A ROOM FOR 30 DAYS AND NOT BE SUBJECT TO THAT AND STILL BE ABLE TO USE PLATFORMS TO ADVERTISE THAT.
I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING TO FIX THE GRANDFATHERED PROPERTIES THAT ARE THE PROBLEM PROPERTIES.
I HOPE WE CAN COME UP WITH CREATIVE WAYS BECAUSE I DO REALLY FEEL FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE HAVING TO WELL, I THINK EVEN BEYOND THE REGISTRATION.
BUT ANYWAY, SO YES, I'M IN FAVOR OF FOUR.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I THINK EVERYBODY CAN SEE THIS IS GOING TO GO IN A POSITIVE DIRECTION.
ALL I'M GOING TO SAY IS, I'M VERY GLAD WE GOT TO THIS POINT.
WE COULD NOT HAVE DONE IT WITHOUT THE HARD WORK OF OUR CITIZENS AND OUR STAFF.
I THINK WE'VE BEEN SAYING ALL ALONG IS, YES, YOU DO HAVE PROPERTY RIGHTS.
BUT AS A NEIGHBORHOOD AND AS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME OWNER, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT I THINK EVEN THE DEED SAYS TO HAVING TO HOLD YOUR PROPERTY AND TO LIVE IN A PEACEFUL ENVIRONMENT.
IF YOU WOULD HAVE WANTED TO LIVE NEXT TO A HOTEL, YOU'D HAVE BOUGHT A HOME NEXT TO A HOTEL.
I THINK TONIGHT WE'RE FINALLY DELIVERING SOMETHING.
WE'VE GOT THE DATA NOW, AND I'M VERY PROUD TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT WHAT WE'RE CALLING OPTION NUMBER 4.
IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT I'D THOUGHT ABOUT WITH OPTION 3. THANK YOU, GUYS.
YOU DID IT. IT WAS GREAT. I'M IN FAVOR ALSO.
>> OUR STAFF IS PUTTING UP ON THE SCREEN EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE VOTING ON.
CHRISTINE, DID YOU WANT TO CLARIFY OR HAVE SOME COMMENTS ON THIS? I THINK THIS VERSION ON THE SCREEN, AND WE HAVE PAPER COPIES OF AS WELL ALLOWS FOR VIVID MANAGEMENT AND HERITAGE DISTRICTS.
WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE OPTION 4 THAT WAS HANDED OUT BY THE PUBLIC.
>> JUST ON THAT POINT, LOOKING AT THE PAPER HERE ABOUT OPTION 4, IT DOES MENTION THAT SHORT-TERM RENTAL WOULD BE PERMITTED IN HERITAGE PROPERTIES, BUT KEEPING WITH THAT BED AND BREAKFAST USE, I DO THINK THAT FOR THOSE HERITAGE DISTRICTS WHERE OPTION 4 WOULD ALLOW SHORT-TERM RENTAL THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO RESTRICT THAT TO LIVE IN MANAGEMENT EVEN WITH THE ENFORCEMENT DIFFICULTIES JUST BECAUSE I THINK HAVING THAT RESTRICTION VERSUS NOT HAVING IT IN THE HERITAGE AREAS IS BENEFICIAL.
>> I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF LEAVING IT IN THE HERITAGE DISTRICTS AS IT IS IN THIS ORDINANCE THAT WAS PASSED OUT TO US.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE CONCERNS WITH THAT? DOES EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE OF WHAT WE'RE SAYING?
>> IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE 5 OR YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN IT?
I'M SORRY, WE DON'T HAVE A COPY OF THAT, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT SAYS.
WHEREAS ON THE OPTION 4, IT SAYS TO REMOVE ALL DISTINCTIONS BETWEEN LIVE IN MANAGEMENT AND OFF SITE MANAGEMENT.
ON PAGE 5 OF THE ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE BEFORE US, THERE STILL IS LIVE IN MANAGEMENT FOR THE HERITAGE DISTRICT.
>> WELL, THIS IS A PAGE QUESTION, DO WE RUN INTO ISSUES WITH THE PENDING CASE ON IF [OVERLAPPING]
>> DO YOU MEAN IF WE'VE PROVIDED ADVICE ON THAT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION? JUST TO ASK THE COALITION, DO YOU WANT TO ASK THEM WHAT?
>> MR. FRANCE, DO YOU MIND ANSWERING A QUESTION REAL QUICK?
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I THINK OUR OPTION HAS A SLIGHT DIFFERENCE THAN YOURS DOES WITH REGARD TO THE HERITAGE DISTRICTS.HERITAGE DISTRICTS WOULD REQUIRE IN THE VERSION WE'RE LOOKING AT, LIVE IN MANAGEMENT.
I WANTED TO SEE IF THE COALITION HAS AN OFFICIAL POSITION ON THAT.
>> WE DO NOT HAVE AN OBJECTION, AS LONG AS THE CITY BELIEVES THAT IT'S WITHIN THE BEST INTEREST OF THAT DISTRICT, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE OR THE EXPERIENCE OF THE FOLKS WHO LIVE THERE TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK ONE WAY OR THE OTHER TO THAT, BUT WE HAVE NO OBJECTION.
>> THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING ON THE FLY. WE APPRECIATE IT.
I KNOW WE KIND OF PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT I THINK IT'S COUNCIL HAS TAKEN ALL THE INPUT AND CONSIDERED THIS.
WE'RE LOOKING TO MAKE THE MOST INFORMED DECISION THAT WE CAN. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. JUST A LITTLE DISCREPANCY I NOTED FOR THE BOARDING ROOMING HOUSE.
IT SAYS, SINGLE ROOM OCCUPANCY IN THE DEFINITIONS.
BUT THEN THE DESCRIPTION SEEMS TO READ AS OUR EXISTING DESCRIPTION, WHEREIN THREE OR MORE ROOMS ARE INDIVIDUALLY RENTED AND YET, IT SAYS, SINGLE ROOM OCCUPANCY IN THE TITLE.
>> SINGLE ROOM OCCUPANCY IS A TECHNICAL TERM THAT'S USED IN ZONING ORDINANCES THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES THAT TALKS ABOUT YOU'RE OCCUPYING A SINGLE ROOM, ESSENTIALLY SO YOU'RE RENTING A ROOM.
>> SO IT'S NOT MEANT TO DELINEATE THAT ONLY ONE ROOM IN A DWELLING IS FOR RENT. THANK YOU.
>> ARE THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR ARE WE READY TO VOTE?
>> MY ONLY QUESTION IS, DO I NEED TO MODIFY MY MOTION, SINCE I SAID OPTION 4 IN THE MOTION, AND I THINK WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING WITH SOMETHING THAT IS SLIGHTLY MORE RESTRICTIVE OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN THAT EVEN WHAT OPTION 4 WOULD ALLOW IN HERITAGE DISTRICTS, WE'RE RESTRICTING THAT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER TO SAY IT WOULD BE ONLY LIVE IN MANAGEMENT IN HERITAGE DISTRICT, SO I WILL MODIFY MY MOTION.
>> WHAT OPTION WAS THIS WITHIN THE PACKET? WE'RE REFERRING TO THIS, WHICH OPTION WAS THIS IN THE PACKET?
>> THIS IS JUST A NUANCE OF WHAT WAS IN THE PACK.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT FLAVOR.
IT IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S IN THE PACKET.
THE MAIN REASON IS THAT IN HERITAGE DISTRICTS TODAY IN THE URBAN RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH COVERS MOST HERITAGE PROPERTIES, BED AND BREAKFAST IS ALLOWED BY RIGHT.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE JUST MAKING THAT PARALLEL.
>> YES, I WILL MODIFY MY MOTION.
>> I'LL WITHDRAW MY SECOND AND THEN SECOND MODIFICATION.
>> SOUNDS GREAT. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND.
PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU ARE IN SUPPORT.
>> WE'LL TAKE A BRIEF RECESS AND COME BACK AT 10:00 O'CLOCK.
[(2) Consideration of an Ordinance to amend Chapter 6, Buildings and Building Regulations, of the Code of Ordinances of the City of Plano by adding Article XXIV, Registration of Short-term Rental Properties; providing for procedures for the registration of short-term rentals for operation; providing for procedures for approval, denial, suspension, and revocation of registration of short-term rentals; and providing a penalty clause, a severability clause, a repealer clause, a savings clause, a publication clause and an effective date.]
>> ITEM NUMBER 2, CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND CHAPTER 6, BUILDINGS AND BUILDING REGULATIONS OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF PLANO BY ADDING ARTICLE 24, REGISTRATION OF SHORT-TERM RENTAL PROPERTIES, PROVIDING FOR PROCEDURES FOR THE REGISTRATION OF SHORT-TERM RENTAL OPERATION, PROVIDING FOR PROCEDURES FOR APPROVAL, DENIAL, SUSPENSION, AND REVOCATION OF REGISTRATION OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS, AND PROVIDING A PENALTY CLAUSE, A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, A REPEALER CLAUSE, A PUBLICATION CLAUSE, AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
>> GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL.
I WAS GOING TO TELL COUNCIL MEMBER 2 THAT I WAS GOING TO KEEP THIS BRIEF, BUT SHE'S NOT EVEN HERE.
SHE WOULD APPRECIATE THE BREVITY EVEN IN HER ABSENCE.
>> I WILL APPRECIATE IT, SO LET'S KEEP GOING.
>> WELL, MY NAME IS CURTIS HOWARD.
I AM THE DIRECTOR OF NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, AND I AM HERE TO TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL REGISTRATION PROGRAM.
JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE MAJOR PROVISIONS THAT I HAVE DISCUSSED WITH YOU ALREADY.
THIS REGISTRATION PROGRAM REQUIRES ALL STRS TO REGISTER WITH THE CITY.
WE HAVE BASICALLY ESTABLISHED A TRAINING PROGRAM THAT WE WILL PROVIDE TO STR OWNERS AND OPERATORS, AND THAT OPTION WILL PROVIDE A REDUCED FEE INCENTIVE.
THEY'LL GET $100 OFF OFF THE REGISTRATION FEE IF THEY COMPLETE THAT COURSE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
ALSO, REQUIRES THAT STRS MUST DESIGNATE A CONTACT TO RESPOND TO ISSUES.
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APPLICANTS MUST PROVE THAT THEY HAVE LIABILITY, PROOF OF LIABILITY INSURANCE UP TO A MILLION DOLLARS.OWNER MUST COMPLETE A SELF INSPECTION AND MAINTAIN THOSE RECORDS FOR THREE YEARS.
OWNERS MUST POST REGISTRATION AND HOST RULES WITHIN THE ENTRY WAY OF THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL.
IT REQUIRES NOISE AND VIDEO MONITORING ON ALL STRS.
ALSO, PROHIBITS ADVERTISING, PROMOTING, OR USING AN STR AS AN ASSEMBLY HALL.
PROVIDES A PROCESS FOR DENIAL, SUSPENSION OR REVOCATION OF REGISTRATION AND A SUBSEQUENT APPEAL PROCESS.
FINALLY, IT ALSO INCLUDES A CRIMINAL OFFENSE FOR VIOLATION OF THIS ORDINANCE.
IF YOU LOOK, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID IS WE HAVE ENGAGED THE RESPONSES ON THE REGISTRATION.
EIGHTY-FIVE TOTAL RESPONSES ON REGISTRATION WERE RECEIVED, 58 WERE IN SUPPORT, 16 WERE IN OPPOSITION, AND THERE WERE 11 DUPLICATES.
FINALLY, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD IS BASED UPON LAST COUNCIL MEETING.
WE HAVE UPDATED SOME OF THE PROVISION BASED ON COUNCIL'S DIRECTION.
FIRST OF ALL, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE, IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE WE DO NOT DISINCENTIVIZE OWNERS OR OPERATORS FROM CONTACTING THE POLICE OR CONTACTING THE CITY IF THERE'S A PROBLEM, WE PROVIDE THE DIRECTOR AN OPTION TO DISREGARD EITHER A NUISANCE OR SERIOUS INCIDENT, IF THE OWNER CONTACTS THE CITY AND IS COOPERATIVE ABOUT THE PROCESS.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO PENALIZE THE OWNER IF THEY'RE THE ONES WHO CALL THE POLICE.
ALSO CLARIFIES THE REQUIREMENT FOR A DESIGNATED CONTACT TO RESPOND OR RESOLVE THE ISSUE WITHIN ONE HOUR OR WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME CONSIDERING THE CIRCUMSTANCES.
IF THE OWNER OPERATOR CAN MAKE A PHONE CALL AND SOLVE THE PROBLEM, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO DO.
IF THEY NEED TO COME OUT, THEN THEY'LL HAVE TO COME OUT, BUT FROM AN ENFORCEMENT STANDPOINT, ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANT TO DO IS WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY SOLVE THE PROBLEM, AND THIS WILL ALLOW SOME FLEXIBILITY IN DOING THAT.
ALSO, REQUIRES NOISE AND OUTDOOR VIDEO MONITORING EQUIPMENT IN ALL STRS.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IS IT'S DONE.
THE NOISE STUFF IS GOING TO BE DECIBEL LEVELS INSIDE THE STR.
THE VIDEO MONITORING WILL BE OUTSIDE IN AREAS WHERE THERE'S NOT AN EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY.
THERE IS A PROVISION IN THERE THAT BASICALLY SAYS THAT THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE THE CITY UPON REQUEST, EITHER VIDEO OR MONITORING DATA, AND WE'D ASK THAT YOU TAKE THAT OUT BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T DO THAT.
IF WE WERE GOING TO TAKE ENFORCEMENT ACTION, WE WOULD CERTAINLY GET A SUBPOENA OR GET THAT THROUGH LEGAL PROCESS.
ALSO, CLARIFIES THAT NUISANCE OR SERIOUS INCIDENTS ARE CRIMINAL CONDUCT AS DEFINED BY CITY ORDINANCE, STATE LAW, OR FEDERAL LAW.
BASICALLY, IT BETTER TIES AND CLEANS UP THE LANGUAGE TO DEFINE WHAT EITHER A NUISANCE INCIDENT OR SERIOUS INCIDENT IS.
ONE OF THE REQUESTS THE COUNCIL HAD IS TO REDUCE THE RENEWAL FEE IF IN ORDER TO INCENTIVIZE GOOD NEIGHBORS AND GOOD BEHAVIOR BY OPERATORS AND OWNERS, AND THAT IS TO REDUCE THE RENEWAL FEE, AND WE'VE DONE THAT BY $100 IF THE STR HAS NOT HAD A INCIDENT WITHIN THE PRIOR 12 MONTHS.
ALSO ALLOWS FOR AN STR PROPERTY TO OPERATE WITHOUT UPDATING THE REGISTRATION FOR UP TO 90 DAYS UPON TRANSFER.
THAT MEANS IF SOMEBODY SELLS IT, AND THEY'VE GOT BOOKINGS LISTED ALREADY, THAT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THOSE BOOKINGS DURING THAT TRANSFER PROCESS, WHICH WE HAVE NOW AT 90 DAYS.
JUST SOME OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS.
ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS BY COUNCIL, ONE OF THE CONCERNS WAS IS THAT IF SOMEBODY, AN OPERATOR OR OWNER, GETS A CALL, HOW ARE THEY GOING TO KNOW WHAT'S ON THE STR? ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE IS WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A GOOD WAY OF PROVIDING ONE SINGLE NUMBER THAT WILL DO THAT.
IF WE'VE GOT AN OFFICER RESPONDING AT NIGHT, IT MIGHT BE THE OFFICER'S CELL PHONE.
COULD BE DISPATCH, COULD BE OUR ARTIC UNIT OUT OF THE RECORDS DIVISION, COULD BE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.
WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A WAY WHERE A CALL TO A OWNER OR OPERATOR OR DESIGNATED CONTACT IS GOING TO COME FROM ONE NUMBER.
ALSO, IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT TO DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN SERIOUS INCIDENTS.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE IS BECAUSE WE'VE CLARIFIED THE LANGUAGE, THESE ARE ALL GOING TO BE CRIMINAL OFFENSES, AND I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO GET INTO TRYING TO DEFINE WHAT A SERIOUS INCIDENT IS THROUGH THIS ORDINANCE.
THAT'S GOING TO BE PART OF THE PROCESS WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE ENFORCEMENT PROCESS.
THEN ALSO ONE OF THE REQUESTS WAS IS, IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN SUNSET THIS AND LOOK AT THIS TO SEE IF IT IS WORKING AS INTENDED? WE CERTAINLY WILL PROVIDE COUNCIL REPORTS ON A QUARTERLY BASIS OR ANNUAL BASIS,
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WHATEVER YOU DESIRE AS TO HOW THESE ARE WORKING.WITH THAT, I KNOW COUNCIL HAS RECEIVED INFORMATION FROM MR. FRANCE AND MR. RINKER [PHONETIC] AND OTHERS ABOUT THIS STUFF, SO I WELCOME QUESTIONS, ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
>> THANK YOU. CURTIS, WITH OUR NON CONFORMING OR OUR GRANDFATHERED STRS THAT WE HAVE NOW, PARTICULARLY THE PROBLEM ONES THAT WERE ALLUDED TO IN SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS HERE, AS OUR CITIZEN TOLD US ABOUT TODAY, WHAT CAN WE DO? WHAT IS GOING TO BE THE IMMEDIATE STEP NOW THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH ZONING? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE GRANDFATHERING PARTS, ONES THAT PARTICULARLY ARE THE BAD ACTORS.
WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO DIFFERENT TO CHANGE THE BEHAVIOR OF THE OWNER TO WHERE THEY CAN BE BETTER NEIGHBORS?
>> I THINK WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN RIGHT NOW IS WHAT WE'LL DO IS I BELIEVE WE HAVE AN AUGUST 1ST DATE THAT THIS WOULD GO INTO EFFECT.
IF YOU, COUNCIL, DECIDE TO ADOPT THIS ORDINANCE THIS EVENING, WHAT WE WOULD DO IS WE WOULD START SENDING OUT INFORMATIONAL LETTERS TO ALL OWNERS THAT WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO IS THEY HAVE TO REGISTER, AND THEY'LL HAVE TO DO THAT BY AUGUST 1ST.
WE'VE GOT THOSE LETTERS ALREADY DRAFTED.
WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS AS WE GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS, NUMBER 1, WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL CERTAINLY LOOK AT THEIR BEHAVIOR.
THIS WILL BE ANOTHER TOOL IN THE TOOL KIT THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH PROBLEM PROPERTIES.
IF WE HAVE NEIGHBORS WHO ARE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL, PLEASE CALL THE POLICE, START OFF WITH THAT, AND THEN THAT, OF COURSE, WILL BE DOCUMENTED, AND THEN THAT STUFF CAN BE USED TO DETERMINE AS WE GO FORWARD, GO THROUGH THE REGISTRATION PROCESS.
WITH THAT DOCUMENTATION, THEY MAY START AFFECTING THEIR ABILITY TO EITHER GET REGISTERED OR LOSE THEIR REGISTRATION AT SOME POINT.
CALL THE POLICE AND WE'LL DOCUMENT THAT, AND THEN WE'LL GO THROUGH THE REGISTRATION PROCESS, GO FROM THERE.
>> BACK FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE, IF WE HAVE THEM LOSE THEIR REGISTRATION, DOES THAT LEAD TO TAKINGS FOR LOST REVENUE?
>> WE DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT LEGAL ADVICE IN OPEN SESSION.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THIS BEFORE, BUT IF WE NEED TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION AGAIN OR FOLLOW UP AFTER, OR TABLE TO GET MORE ADVICE.
>> ARE YOU GOOD? YOU CAN FOLLOW UP LATER.
>> YEAH, WE CAN FOLLOW UP LATER WITH THAT.
>> THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS.
>> THANK YOU, CURTIS. YOU MENTIONED THAT IF AN OPERATOR OR A DESIGNATED RESPONDEE WERE REQUIRED TO BE ON SITE, THEY'D HAVE TO COME ON SITE.
HOWEVER, WHAT I'M READING IN THE ORDINANCE DOESN'T SAY THAT THEY HAVE TO BE AVAILABLE TO BE ON SITE.
IT SIMPLY SAYS, LET ME GET BACK TO IT, SHALL ENSURE THE DESIGNATED CONTACTS ARE AVAILABLE AND AUTHORIZED TO ACT AS DESCRIBED IN THE SECTION ABOVE.
MAY BE ACCESSIBLE BY TELEPHONE, ABLE TO RESPOND OR RESOLVE THE REPORT OR REQUEST WITHIN ONE HOUR OF BEING CONTACTED OR WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME CONSIDERING THE CIRCUMSTANCES.
RESPOND WITHIN ONE HOUR, DEFINITELY.
BUT IF IT DOES REQUIRE, IF THE SITUATION, WHATEVER IT IS, DOES REQUIRE THEM TO BE ON SITE, AND THEY'RE LIKE, I'M IN TENNESSEE, OR WORSE, I'M IN BELGIUM, THE SUBSEQUENT LANGUAGE OR WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME CONSIDERING THE CIRCUMSTANCES, OKAY, WELL, YOU'LL BE BACK IN A WEEK.
WE'LL TAKE IT UP THEN. I WOULD FEEL MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE IF THIS REQUIRED THEM TO BE ABLE TO BE ON SITE IF REQUIRED.
IF THEY CAN RESOLVE ANYTHING OVER THE PHONE, FANTASTIC, NO NEED TO GET THEM OVER TO THE PROPERTY, BUT IF IT DOES REQUIRE THEM TO BE ON SITE, I'D WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO, WHOEVER THE OPERATOR IS.
IS THERE ANY OTHER PROVISION IN HERE THAT WE'RE AWARE OF THAT ADDRESSES THAT?
>> THERE IS NOT. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS WHEN WE TAKE SOME ENFORCEMENT ACTION, WE WANT TO RESOLVE THE PROBLEM.
DEPENDING UPON WHAT THE COMPLAINT IS, IF THE COMPLAINT IS A GARBAGE BAG IS NEXT TO THE TRASH CAN, IT'S NOT IN THE TRASH CAN AND THEY CALL AND THAT CAN BE RESOLVED OVER THE PHONE,
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HOWEVER IT'S DONE, WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED THE PERSON TO RESPOND WITHIN ONE HOUR.WE'RE TRYING TO GIVE SOME FLEXIBILITY TO DEAL WITH ALL THE SITUATIONS THAT OCCUR AT THESE PLACES AGAIN, IN ORDER TO RESOLVE THE PROBLEM.
THERE IS NOT ANOTHER PROVISION IN THERE.
BUT THE WAY THAT WE DRAFTED THAT WAS JUST WITH THE THOUGHT BEING THAT IF SOMEBODY HAS THEIR TRASH CANS OUT AND IT VIOLATES THE ORDINANCE OF HAVING TRASH CANS OUT, AND THEIR HUSBAND IS GOING TO GET OFF WORK AT 5:00 AND HE'LL BE THERE IN AN HOUR-AND-A-HALF.
IS THAT REASONABLE BASED ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES? THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL HAVE TO ADDRESS.
BUT IT GIVES US SOME FLEXIBILITY.
>> THANK YOU. REGARDING THE NOT COUNTING AS A STRIKE IF AN INCIDENT IS REPORTED BY THE OWNER OR THE OPERATOR, HOW DO WE COUNT AN INCIDENT THERE? IS THAT EACH INDIVIDUAL CALL? LET'S SAY IN THE EXTREME EXAMPLE, THERE ARE 30 SHOTS FIRED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THAT'S GOING TO RESULT IN A LOT OF CALLS.
ARE WE STRIKING THE WHOLE INCIDENT FROM THE RECORD JUST BECAUSE THE OWNER IS ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO CALLED?
>> FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN YOU TRY TO FIGURE OUT WAYS OF DOING THIS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THIS WILL REQUIRE IS THAT THEY HAVE A NOISE MONITORING DEVICE.
IF YOU HAVE AN OWNER OR OPERATOR WHOSE NOISE MONITORING DEVICE STARTS GOING OFF INDICATING THAT THERE'S, A PARTY GOING ON, BUT IT HASN'T GOTTEN TO THE POINT WHERE NEIGHBORS HAVE COMPLAINED YET, AND THAT OWNER OR OPERATOR CALLS THE POLICE, THE POLICE RESPOND, NO NEIGHBORS HAVE BEEN INCONVENIENCED AT THAT POINT, WE DON'T WANT TO DISINCENTIVIZE THOSE OPERATORS FROM CONTACTING THE LAW ENFORCEMENT IF NEEDED.
>> AT SUCH A TIME BEFORE IT GENERATES NEIGHBOR COMPLAINTS.
>> EXACTLY. ON THE OTHER STREAM, IF YOU'VE GOT A PARTY GOING ON, THERE'S A BUNCH OF DRUNKEN AND DEBAUCHERY THAT'S GOING ON, AND NOT ONLY DOES THE OPERATOR CALL THE POLICE, BUT YOU HAVE ALL THE NEIGHBORS, WELL, GUESS WHAT WE HAVE? WE HAVE NOW A NUISANCE INCIDENT OR A SERIOUS INCIDENT, DEPENDING UPON THE SITUATION.
>> ONE THAT'S NOT NEGATED JUST BECAUSE THE OPERATOR WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO CALLED.
>> I JUST WANT TO GET CLARIFICATION ON THE NOISE MONITORING DEVICES.
DO WE KNOW WHAT THE COST IS FOR THAT AND WHAT'S AVAILABLE AS OPTIONS?
>> COUNCILMEMBER, I DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE COST IS.
I DO KNOW THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL COMPANIES OUT THERE THAT OFFER THAT SERVICE TO BASICALLY SHORT TERM RENTAL OPERATORS.
IT'S BASICALLY A DEVICE THAT YOU PUT UP AND WHAT IT'LL DO IS YOU'VE GOT AN APP ON YOUR PHONE, IT'LL TELL YOU WHAT THE DECIBEL LEVELS AND THAT THING ARE.
I DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE COST IS, BUT I THINK IT'S FAIRLY REASONABLE FOR THAT SERVICE.
>> I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO KNOW THAT BEFORE REQUIRING IT.
JUST SO WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE EXPECTING.
>> A FOLLOW UP TO COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS QUESTION ABOUT SECTION 6-745G REGARDING THE NUISANCE INCIDENT REPORTED BY THE OWNER OR BY THE MANAGER.
THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT I HAD MENTIONED ADDING INTO THE ORDINANCE AT THE LAST MEETING, OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, I BELIEVE, BROUGHT IT UP AS WELL.
I DO THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE INTENT IS NOT TO PENALIZE AND THEREBY DISINCENTIVIZE A MANAGER OR OWNER FROM SELF REPORTING AN INCIDENT BEFORE IT BECOMES BAD ENOUGH THAT SOMEBODY ELSE NEEDS TO REPORT IT, BUT LIKE COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS SAID, THE INTENT ALSO OBVIOUSLY WAS NOT TO INSULATE THE PROPERTY OWNER, WHERE THERE'S MORE THAN ONE REPORT AND ONLY ONE OF THOSE COMES FROM THE OWNER OR MANAGER, JUST NOT TO COUNT THE OWNER OR MANAGER'S OWN CALL AGAINST THEM.
I APPRECIATED YOUR RESPONSE TO COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS ON THAT POINT THAT IN A SITUATION WHERE MULTIPLE CALLS ARE MADE, WE'RE NOT IMMUNIZING THAT FROM BEING A NUISANCE INCIDENT OR A SERIOUS INCIDENT, JUST BECAUSE ONE OF THOSE CALLS WAS MADE BY THE OWNER OR MANAGER.
I UNDERSTOOD YOUR RESPONSE CORRECTLY IN THAT REGARD.
>> THAT'S CORRECT. IF YOU LOOK AT IT, BASICALLY, THE LANGUAGE IS DIRECTOR MAY DISREGARD, SO IT'S NOT A SHALL.
>> GOT YOU. I WAS JUST GOING TO SUGGEST THAT TO MAKE THAT INTENT MORE CLEAR, PERHAPS WE COULD ADD LANGUAGE OR I'M INTERESTED IN WHAT THE STAFF THOUGHTS WOULD BE ON ADDING LANGUAGE, JUST SAYING, RATHER THAN RELYING ON THE PERMISSIVE MAY LANGUAGE, RATHER THAN MANDATORY SHALL LANGUAGE THAT'S USED THERE, THAT WE ADD SOME LANGUAGE THAT SAYS ESSENTIALLY THAT WHERE ANOTHER REPORT
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IS MADE AT OR PRIOR TO THE SAME TIME THAT THE OWNER REPORTS IT, THEN THE DIRECTOR WILL NOT DISREGARD IT.WHAT WOULD YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT BE?
>> I'D HAVE TO I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE LANGUAGE AND PLAY AROUND WITH THE LANGUAGE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T NEGATE WHAT WE HAVE HERE.
>> DO YOU MEAN SOMETHING TO DISTINGUISH WHERE THE OPERATOR WAS THE SOLE CALL?
>> EXACTLY. BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S AT LEAST WHAT I WAS ENVISIONING AT THE LAST MEETING WHERE I SAID WE WOULDN'T WANT TO PENALIZE THEM FOR SELF REPORTING.
NOT THE SITUATION LIKE YOU MENTIONED, WHERE IF THERE ARE GUNSHOTS, THE OPERATOR REPORTS IT, AND SO DO 10 OTHER PEOPLE OR 20 OTHER PEOPLE OR WHATEVER, THE SITUATION WHERE A RESPONSIBLE OPERATOR REPORTS IT BEFORE IT BECOMES ENOUGH OF AN ISSUE THAT ANYBODY ELSE REPORTS IT AND NOT TO HAVE THEM SITTING THERE BY THEIR PHONE THINKING, I COULD USE LAW ENFORCEMENT'S HELP WITH THIS SITUATION, BUT I DON'T WANT TO GET DINGED FOR THIS, SO I'M NOT GOING TO CALL.
WE WANT TO INCENTIVIZE THEM TO CALL AND REMOVE THE PENALTY FOR THEM TO RESPONSIBLY REPORT IT THEMSELVES, BUT NOT CREATE A SITUATION WHERE THERE'S IMMUNITY.
I THINK WHAT I UNDERSTAND FROM YOUR ANSWER, DIRECTOR HOWARD, IS THAT ESSENTIALLY THE WAY THAT WE'RE ACCOMPLISHING THAT WITH THE CURRENT LANGUAGE IS THAT THE DIRECTOR MAY DISREGARD IT, BUT DOES NOT HAVE TO.
SO IT'S WITHIN THE DIRECTOR'S DISCRETION.
BUT WHAT WOULD YOUR THOUGHTS BE ON JUST ADDING SOME TYPE OF LANGUAGE IN PROVIDING GUIDANCE TO FUTURE DIRECTORS FOR ALL YEARS IN PERPETUITY THAT BASICALLY, WE DON'T DISREGARD IT IF THERE ARE MULTIPLE CALLS ONLY IF IT'S A SITUATION WHERE THE ONLY CALL CAME FROM THE OPERATOR?
>> AGAIN, WITHOUT KNOWING SPECIFICALLY WHAT THE LANGUAGE IS, IT'D BE REALLY HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE DON'T CONFLICT.
BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT THAT.
>> READING THIS AGAIN, IF I WERE TO READ THIS OUTSIDE THE CONTEXT OF THIS DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW, I COULD SEE WHERE ANY AND IT SAYS, NUISANCE INCIDENT OR SERIOUS INCIDENT OR SERIOUS NUISANCE INCIDENT COULD BE DISREGARDED WITHOUT RESPECT TO HOW MANY CALLS CAME IN.
LIKE THAT EXTREME EXAMPLE AGAIN, OF 30 SHOTS FIRED, WHICH WAS A REAL EXAMPLE, NOT A HYPOTHETICAL, THAT RESULTS IN A LOT OF CALLS, BUT IF THE OPERATOR WAS ONE OF THOSE CALLS, THIS COULD BE INTERPRETED TO DISMISS THE WHOLE THING.
>> I THINK THAT WOULD BE BASED UPON THE DIRECTOR'S DISCRETION, AND WITH ANY ENFORCEMENT SITUATION, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE DISCRETION.
IF WE HAD A SHOOTING AND WE HAVE 30 CALLS, AND THE OWNER JUST HAPPENS TO HEAR ABOUT IT AND CALLS THE POLICE AS ONE OF THEM, I PROBABLY PRETTY SAFE TO SAY THAT THE DIRECTOR WILL NOT DISREGARD ALL 29 OTHER CALLS.
>> GOT YOU. WELL, THAT MAKES SENSE.
YOU MENTIONED NEEDING CONCRETE LANGUAGE, WHICH MAKES ABSOLUTE SENSE.
WHAT IF THAT LAST LINE BEFORE THE SUBPART ONE AND TWO IN G SAID THE DIRECTOR MAY, BUT IS NOT OBLIGATED TO DISREGARD SUCH INCIDENT IF THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA IS MET?
>> I CAN PROBABLY PUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN THERE.
>> FANTASTIC. I THINK THAT WOULD JUST MAKE IT CLEAR, BECAUSE THIS ORDINANCE WILL PROBABLY BE AROUND LONG AFTER ANY OF US ARE IN THE ROLES THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY IN, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE WORDING IS CLEAR ON THE INTENT.
>> I WAS GOING TO ANSWER COUNCILWOMAN HOLMER.
IT LOOKS LIKE THOSE DEVICES COST BETWEEN $50-100 ACCORDING TO LOVELY POWER OF GOOGLE.
REGISTRATION IS $10-15 A MONTH FOR THE MONITORING SERVICE.
>> THANK YOU. THE POWER OF JUST ALSO CAME TO ME [LAUGHTER] AND TOLD ME SOMETHING SIMILAR.
IT DOES LOOK LIKE IT'S VERY REASONABLE AND AFFORDABLE, SO THANK YOU.
>> DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO. I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WE HAVE SEVERAL SPEAKERS, SO I HAVE A PROPOSITION FOR EVERYONE.
WE ARE ALLOTTING A MINUTE AND 30 SECONDS, BUT SINCE IT'S 10:21 AT NIGHT, IF YOU SPEAK FOR LESS THAN A MINUTE, YOU'RE GOING TO WIN COFFEE WITH ANTHONY.
>> I THINK I'M GOING TO BE OVER CAFFEINATED.
>> JUST KIDDING. BUT YES, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR LESS, YOU'LL GET A GOLD STAR ON MY PAPER.
THE FIRST SPEAKER IS LORI GREEN, FOLLOWED BY BILL FRANCE AND ELAINA BURKE.
>> GOLD STAR. [LAUGHTER] MIGHT GET COFFEE.
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>> PLEASE STOP ME AT ONE MINUTE ONE SECOND.
MAYOR PRO TEM, COUNCIL, GOOD EVENING.
I'M BILL FRANCE, REPRESENTING THE PLANO TEXAS NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION.
OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS, WE HAVE PLEADED WITH YOU, OUR CITY LEADERS, TO ENACT AND ENFORCE REASONABLE LAWS TO REMEDY THE MANY ISSUES AND CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT BEFORE YOU.
TONIGHT, WE STAND AT THE BRINK OF A DECISION THAT ALTHOUGH WILL NOT FIX THE PROBLEMS OF THE PAST, WILL HOPEFULLY PREVENT, DETER, AND CORRECT IN THE FUTURE, THE WOEFUL CONDUCT THAT WE HAVE HAD TO ENDURE IN ITS ABSENCE.
HOWEVER MANY WORDS THAT WE HAVE CODIFIED IN THIS ORDINANCE, THE TRUE TEST OF THIS LAW WILL BE IN THE EFFECTIVENESS OF ITS ABILITY TO BE ENFORCED.
PLEASE FOLLOW THE ARLINGTON MODEL AND ENACT TESTED AND PROVEN RULES THAT WILL PROVIDE THE CITY MANAGEMENT ALL THE NECESSARY TOOLS TO SAFEGUARD OUR COMMUNITY, PROTECT OUR CHILDREN, AND ENSURE THE PEACE AND SECURITY OF ALL WHO CALL PLANO HOME.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND COMMITMENT TO THIS PROCESS.
>> THE NEXT SPEAKER THEN IS STEPHEN KYRIAKOS, FOLLOWED BY KATHERINE PARKER AND MARK PULLIAM.
>> SORRY, ANTHONY, I'LL GO FOR THAT COFFEE HERE.
JUST A COUPLE OF ITEMS HERE ON THE REGISTRATION THAT I BELIEVE IT'S REALLY TO PROVIDE THE CITY WITH ENFORCEMENT TOOLS AGAINST BAD ACTORS.
JUST A COUPLE OF POINTS, AND I THINK SHELBY, YOU ALREADY REALLY MADE ONE INCIDENT RESPONSE TIME SHOULD BE ONE HOUR, AND I'M SEPARATING INCIDENT RESPONSE TIME FROM INCIDENT RESOLUTION.
THEY WOULD RESPOND TO AN ISSUE, BUT PROBABLY NOT SOLVE IT BECAUSE INCIDENT RESOLUTION COULD BE A LONGER TIME DEPENDING ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES.
BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT THE DESIGNATED CONTACT SHOULD BE ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN THE RESOLUTION PROCESS ONCE NOTIFIED.
FINALLY, THE FEES, I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD BE OVERLY BURDENSOME, BUT THEY SHOULD COVER THE CITY'S COSTS AND NOT REALLY BURDEN TAXPAYERS.
FINALLY, MAYBE SOMETHING FOR CITIZENS, AND MAYBE THIS IS MORE IN THE ENFORCEMENT SIDE AND NOT SO MUCH IN THE DEFINITION.
MAYBE PLANO FIX IT OR SOMETHING HAS A NON-EMERGENCY OPTION FOR US TO REPORT THINGS.
A WHITE VENTI LATTE WOULD BE GREAT.
>> YOU GOT IT. I'M YOUR FAVORITE BARISTA, I GUESS.
WHILE YOU WERE GONE, THE MAYOR PRO TEM SIGNED ME UP FOR COFFEE WITH ANYONE WHO SPEAKS FOR LESS THAN A MINUTE.
I'M GOING TO BE BOUNCING OFF A LOT.
>> HELLO. I'M KATHRYN P. PARKER.
MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE LIVED IN PLANO FOR 10 YEARS.
FOR YEARS, PLANO RESIDENTS HAVE SUFFERED LIVING BY SHORT-TERM RENTALS WITH NO RECOURSE.
THE CITY MUST PASS A STRONG REGISTRATION ORDINANCE TO ADDRESS THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THESE LODGING OPERATIONS AND TO REIN IN THOSE THAT ARE BAD ACTORS.
FOR THE PAST YEAR, THE STR TASK FORCE MET SIX TIMES, CONDUCTED SURVEYS, TOOK PUBLIC INPUT FROM TWO OPEN HOUSES, REVIEWED AND ANALYZED DATA, AND REPORTED THEIR FINDINGS IN TWO REPORTS THAT HAVE BEEN SHARED WITH CITY COUNCIL, PLANNING AND ZONING, AND THE PUBLIC.
NOW IS THE TIME TO ENACT A STRONG SHORT-TERM RENTAL REGISTRATION ORDINANCE TO MAINTAIN THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF OUR PLANO NEIGHBORHOODS.
>> GOOD EVENING AGAIN. MARK PULLIAM.
THANK YOU FOR PASSING THE ZONING ORDINANCE EARLIER.
THE REGISTRATION ORDINANCE, I HAD A COUPLE OF COMMENTS ON SPECIFIC CLAUSES, AND THEY'VE BEEN ADDRESSED PRIMARILY WITH ONE EXCEPTION, SECTION 6.740.
I DON'T SEE A REASON WHY THE CITY SHOULD BE ACCEPTING THE HOT TAXES DIRECTLY AND NOT BASICALLY DEFER TO THE HOSTING COMPANY TO TRUST THEM.
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YOU'RE LOSING YOUR AUDIT CONTROLS FOR THAT.I JUST THROW THAT OUT THERE FOR YOU TO THINK ABOUT.
I THINK THERE'S BEEN A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE ABILITY OF THE POLICE TO CONTACT AN OWNER OR OPERATOR IF BASICALLY, SOMEONE IN YOUR DEPARTMENT IS NOT AVAILABLE AFTER FIVE O'CLOCK ON FRIDAY.
HOW DOES SOMEONE GET AHOLD OF THEM? DOES THE POLICE HAVE A DATABASE OF NUMBERS? CAN THEY GET TO IT? I'M ASKING YOU.
>> QUESTION IS, DO THE POLICE HAVE A DATABASE OF NUMBERS FOR THE [OVERLAPPING]
>> IS IT AVAILABLE THROUGH CONTACTS?
>> YES, SIR. AT SOME POINT, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS ONCE WE GET THAT INFORMATION UPLOAD IT INTO OUR CAD SYSTEM, SO OUR DISPATCH CENTER.
>> GOOD. IT WASN'T OBVIOUS. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
FINALLY, I JUST WANT TO URGE THE CITY COUNCIL TO BASICALLY KEEP THE FOOT ON THE STAFF [OVERLAPPING]
THERE'S BEEN STATEMENTS ABOUT PROCEEDING WITH REVIEW OF PARKING ORDINANCES, NOISE ORDINANCES, ETC.
PLEASE, LET'S JUST KEEP GOING WITH THOSE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THE NEXT SPEAKER IS JOHN BURKE, FOLLOWED BY MARLA KYRIAKOS AND GLENN SMITH.
[LAUGHTER] GOOD EVENING, MR. MERRIT.
THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
I STRONGLY AGREE WITH AND SUPPORT A ROBUST REGISTRATION PROCESS FOR ALL SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
I DO WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT REGARDING SHELBY'S QUESTION THAT HE BROUGHT UP REGARDING REASONABLE TIME FRAME FOR ADDRESSING INCIDENT REPORTS.
I AGREE WITH THE LANGUAGE IN THE FIRST PHRASE THAT SAYS ONE HOUR.
YET, I OBJECT TO THE LANGUAGE OF REASONABLE TIME FRAME, DEPENDING ON THE CIRCUMSTANCE.
I BELIEVE THAT AN SDR OPERATOR OR OWNER, IF THEY CHOOSE TO OPERATE THIS PARTICULAR TYPE OF BUSINESS, THAT THEY MANAGE THE BUSINESS IN SUCH A WAY THAT HAS THEM POSITIONED TO RESPOND WITHIN THE HOUR.
WHEN I AM OUT OF THE OFFICE, I RELY ON MY CONTINGENCY PLANS FOR THE DESIGNATED PERSON OR TEAM TO HANDLE ANY CONCERNS THAT ARISE WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME.
I DON'T NECESSARILY COUNT ON THE PATIENT'S UNDERSTANDING AND COPING SKILLS OF THE PERSON REPORTING THE PROBLEM.
I EXPECT THE SAME FROM THE SDR OPERATORS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.
>> MY OPINION IN SUPPORT OF THE STRONG ORDINANCE HAS BEEN COVERED, SO [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER]
>> I RESPECTFULLY RELINQUISH AS WELL.
>> I HOPE SOMEONE'S WRITING ALL THIS DOWN. I'M NOT.
[LAUGHTER] THIS IS LIKE COFFEE WITH ANTHONY.
IT'S OUR PROGRAM FOR SPEAKING SHORT. GREAT IDEA.
>> THE NEXT SPEAKER IS MELISSA PULLIAM FOLLOWED BY ANN HILL AND CINDY PATTILLO.
>> ANTHONY, MAYBE I'M GOING TO NEED TO TAKE YOU TO COFFEE, BUT I WILL KEEP IT BELOW THE MINUTE AND HALF, I PROMISE.
I DO SUPPORT STRONG AND CLEAR REQUIREMENTS IN THIS REGISTRATION PROCESS.
I WANTED TO GIVE A LITTLE COLOR ON THE SECTION 6736 ISSUE WITH TIME FOR RESPONDING BY THE DESIGNATED CONTACT.
I UNDERSTAND FROM TALKING TO PEOPLE IN ARLINGTON WHO ARE FAMILIAR WITH THEIR ORDINANCE THAT THEY REQUIRE THEIR EQUIVALENT OF THE DESIGNATED CONTACT TO BE ON PREMISES WITHIN AN HOUR BECAUSE THEY ARE NEEDED IN ORDER TO PERMIT THE POLICE INTO A RESIDENCE.
I LIVE ON THE STREET WITH THE PARTY HOUSE.
WE'VE HAD EVERY REASON THAT THE POLICE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO IN THERE, UNDERAGE DRINKING, PHOTOGRAPHS, VIDEOS, WHATEVER.
THEY CAN'T GO IN THERE BECAUSE THERE IS NO ONE AUTHORIZED TO LET THEM INTO THE HOUSE.
I WOULD JUST ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER THAT WHEN WE'RE WANTING TO DEAL WITH THESE REAL PROBLEM HOUSES THAT THEY HAVE THOSE TOOLS.
FLEXIBILITY, I APPRECIATE AND RESPECT AND THINK THAT WE NEED TO PRESERVE THAT, BUT WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL THAT IT DOESN'T CREATE LOOPHOLES.
WE ARE DEALING WITH SOME [OVERLAPPING]
>> BAD ACTORS THAT WILL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF FLEXIBILITY AND TURN THOSE INTO LOOPHOLES.
DO YOUR BEST AND ALLOW YOURSELF TO REVISIT IT AND GIVE YOURSELF STRONG TOOLS TO WORK WITH.
I'LL TRY TO BE QUICK, BUT I DON'T THINK I'M GOING TO MAKE A MINUTE.
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JUST REALLY QUICK. I ECHO THE CONCERN ABOUT THE RESPONSE.THE HOUSE BEHIND MINE HAD WATER COMING UNDER THE GATE AND GOING DOWN THE ALLEY FOR SOMETHING LIKE 36 HOURS OVER A WEEKEND.
I CALLED AND WAS TOLD, WE CAN'T JUMP THE FENCE AND TURN THE WATER OFF.
WE GOT TO HAVE SOMEBODY THERE.
I GET IT TOO, THAT SOMEBODY MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO PHYSICALLY GET THERE WITHIN AN HOUR, BUT I FEEL LIKE IF SOMETHING'S REPORTED WITHIN AN HOUR, WHOEVER'S IN CHARGE OUGHT TO HAVE A RESPONSE.
THEY OUGHT TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO RESOLVE THE ISSUE.
THERE'S A COMMENT ABOUT, AND I'M SORRY, I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS ABOUT, NO, I THINK THAT'S ZONING. NEVER MIND.
I KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN CONVERSATIONS ABOUT COST, AND I'M SURE YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR ABOUT THAT FROM THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE TO INVEST THEIR MONEY IN THE EQUIPMENT AND THE INSURANCE AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
WHAT I WOULD SAY TO THAT IS EVERY BUSINESS HAS A COST OF DOING BUSINESS.
THIS PROGRAM IS GOING TO COST THE CITY TO ADMINISTER IT, AND I FEEL LIKE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ENGAGED IN THE BUSINESS OF RUNNING RENTALS [OVERLAPPING].
>> NEED TO BE ABLE TO PUT THAT MONEY IN TO THE PROCESS AS APPROPRIATE.
FINALLY, I LIVE IN A NO HOA NEIGHBORHOOD ON A SMALL LOT WITH VERY CLOSE HOUSES, SO I WOULD ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THAT SITUATION AS YOU'RE ADOPTING THESE ORDINANCES, BECAUSE IT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DEPENDING ON.
>> THE NEXT SPEAKER IS JOHN GREEN, FOLLOWED BY SUZANNE PAPPAS AND MARIA BAUER.
WE HAVE 20 YEARS OF ACTIVE DUTY SERVICE.
WE'VE BEEN LIVING IN THE CITY OF PLANO FOR 10 YEARS.
IN THREE WEEKS, MY SON WALKS ACROSS THE STAGE TO GRADUATE.
THE LAST TWO YEARS HE HAS SEEN HIS MOTHER AND HIS FATHER SPEND AN INORDINATE AMOUNT OF TIME.
I WANT TO THANK YOU ON THIS PROCESS.
I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR STEP 1.
I WANT TO THANK YOU THAT THERE WILL NOT BE A THIRD SHORT-TERM RENTAL ON MY BLOCK, BUT THERE STILL ARE TWO.
THESE PROBLEMS ARE NOT GOING TO GO AWAY WITH WHAT WAS APPROVED FROM NUMBER 1.
THANK YOU AGAIN, THAT THERE WON'T BE A THIRD, BUT WE STILL HAVE THOSE ISSUES.
I'M 1,000% BEHIND THE STRICTEST ORDINANCE BECAUSE WHEN MY BOYS COME HOME, THERE ARE TWO MEMORIES.
THEIR MEMORIES OF PLANO, THE LAST FEW YEARS OF THEIR HIGH SCHOOL YEARS ARE PROSTITUTES, DRUGS, POLICE THAT ARE BASICALLY IMPOTENT, BECAUSE ALL THEY CAN DO IS COME AND DIRECT TRAFFIC FOR THE 200 MINERS THAT ARE THROWING CONDOMS, ALCOHOL AND DRUG PARAPHERNALIA ON OUR STREET THAT MY SON HELP CLEAN UP THE NEXT DAY.
THIS IS REAL AND TO RAISE A FAMILY AND TO WORK YOUR WHOLE LIFE, TO HAVE YOUR DREAM AND TO HAVE THE LAST TWO YEARS OF YOUR BOYS MEMORIES TO BE OF THIS, AND THE CITY BEING IMPOTENT TO HANDLE IT IS HEARTBREAKING.
I'D RATHER YOU COMPLETELY GET RID OF THE STARS, BUT SINCE YOU CAN'T MAKE IT UNCOMFORTABLE FOR THEM, SO THEY GO AWAY. THANK YOU.
>> THE NEXT GROUP OF SPEAKERS, BILL BAKER, BARBARA FRANCE AND ANNE PARKER.
WHEN I SEE MR. MAYOR, I FEEL TERRIBLY UNDERDRESSED.
>> [OVERLAPPING] THIS IS GOING TO BE THE NORM FROM NOW.
UNFORTUNATELY, I'LL BE HONEST, I DIDN'T READ THE TOTAL REGISTRATION PROCESS.
BUT ONE THOUGHT I HAD IS ABOUT FIRE SAFETY.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING IN THERE, BUT MY HEAD IS WHERE FIRE SAFETY.
WHAT DO WE DO TO KEEP THE OCCUPANTS SAFE? DOES EVERY ROOM THAT THEY MAY BE SLEEPING IN HAVE MORE THAN ONE EXIT? DOES IT HAVE A DOOR AND A WINDOW OR IS IT JUST A DOOR? JUST THINK ABOUT THIS.
I DON'T. IN MY HOUSES, THERE'S MULTIPLE EXITS.
I'D HAVE TO KICK A WINDOW OUT, BUT SOME OF THESE HOMES MAY NOT HAVE THAT.
THERE MAY BE A LEGAL REQUIREMENT THAT I'M NOT AWARE OF, BUT JUST A HEADS UP.
THAT'S ONE ITEM THAT'S ALWAYS CONCERNED ME.
>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS BARBARA FRANCE.
I'M A REGISTERED NEONATAL ICU NURSE.
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I'M REQUIRED TO HAVE A LICENSE TO DO MY JOB.I HAD TO APPLY FOR THIS LICENSE AND PAY A FEE.
I HAD TO SUBMIT TO A BACKGROUND CHECK AND SHOW THAT I HAD MET ALL THE NECESSARY REQUIREMENTS.
I'M REQUIRED TO PAY FOR AND RENEW MY LICENSE.
I MUST COMPLY WITH ALL THE RULES NECESSARY FOR RENEWAL, INCLUDING CONTINUING EDUCATION REQUIREMENTS.
WHILE PERFORMING MY DUTIES, I MUST CONFORM TO CERTAIN SPECIFIC STANDARDS AS SET BY MY WORKPLACE AND THE TEXAS BOARD OF NURSING.
WHEN I'M ON CALL AND THE UNIT NEEDS ME, I MUST ARRIVE WITHIN ONE HOUR OF THE CALL.
IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG AND AN EGREGIOUS ERROR IS MADE, I COULD LOSE MY LICENSE.
I WOULD BE REQUIRED TO GO BEFORE THE BOARD TO REVIEW THE MISTAKE, AND THEY WOULD DETERMINE IF I COULD KEEP MY LICENSE OR IF IT SHOULD BE REVOKED.
AN ORDINANCE GOVERNING THE REQUIREMENTS, STANDARDS AND EXPECTATIONS OF STR OPERATORS IS REASONABLE AND NECESSARY.
PLEASE ADOPT THESE REGULATIONS TONIGHT TO SAFEGUARD OUR COMMUNITY.
WE WILL MOVE ON TO ZOE REVEAL, LAUREN DYKES AND GREG PATILLO.
>> HI. MY POINTS HAVE BEEN MADE.
>> YOU GOT IT. YOUR ORDER NUMBER IS 73.
>> LAUREN DYKES. GREG PATILLO.
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF.
ALTHOUGH I THINK ANTHONY DOESN'T REALLY WANT TO HAVE COFFEE WITH ME. COUPLE OF THINGS.
I BELIEVE IF THE LIST OF HOSTING PLATFORMS INCLUDES PLATFORMS THAT DO NOT HAVE A VCA, I THINK WE OUGHT TO REQUIRE A TAX ID THAT GIVES STAFF A HEADS UP THAT THIS IS SOMEONE THAT SHOULD BE AUDITED OR AT LEAST VIEWED AS SOMEONE WHO SHOULD BE PAYING THEIR TAXES.
THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST IS WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE AT SOME POINT THAT 84% OF PEOPLE HAVE NOT BEEN CALLING THE POLICE.
WHEN I TALK TO RESIDENTS, THEIR BIGGEST FEAR IS A FEAR OF REPRISAL FROM THE GUESTS.
WHAT I SUGGEST IS SOMETHING THAT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, EITHER AN APP OR A PLATFORM.
I KNOW ARLINGTON USES GRANICUS, WHERE WE CAN CAPTURE DIGITAL DATA AND UPLOAD THAT EITHER THROUGH FIX IT OR A PORTAL AND HAVE THAT TO BE THE INSTANCE OF REPORTING A INCIDENT VERSUS GETTING THE POLICE INVOLVED.
THAT ALLOWS US TO DO IT AFTER THE FACT, DOESN'T REQUIRE DIRECT CONFLICT SO THAT ALLEVIATES SOME OF THE FEARS.
BUT IF YOU GO TO ARLINGTON'S STR SITE, YOU'LL SEE COMPLAINT, AND IT HAS ONE NUMBER AND IT HAS THE WEB PLATFORM.
I BELIEVE THAT GIVES US A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY THERE, AND IT GETS A LOT OF THE GUESS WORK OUT.
SOMETIMES THE POLICE DON'T SHOW UP WHILE THE NOISE IS STILL GOING ON, AND SO IT GETS ALL OF THAT OUT OF THE WAY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
>> THE NEXT GROUP IS PAMELA BARBER AND SHARON OVERALL AND KARA IRELAND.
>> SHARON OVERALL. ALL SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN THE CITY SHOULD REQUIRE A PERMIT.
PERMITS OF BAD ACTORS MUST BE ABLE TO BE REVOKED.
GUIDELINES AND PROCEDURES FOR REVOCATION OF THE PERMIT NEED TO BE SET THAT ARE CLEAR AND PRECISE SO THEY KNOW THE STEPS THAT WILL BE TAKEN. THANK YOU.
SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ON ZOOM, AND SHE ISN'T.
>> I'LL KEEP IT SHORT, BUT GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL.
I WANT TO BEGIN BY EXPRESSING MY GRATITUDE TO EVERYONE INVOLVED IN ALLOWING ME TO CONTINUE OPERATING MY AIRBNB DESPITE THE CHALLENGES.
I TRULY APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY.
HOWEVER, I MUST EXPRESS MY STRONG OPPOSITION TO
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THE BLANKET BAN ON AIRBNB RENTALS AND SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE NOT OWNER OCCUPIED.THIS POLICY SEEMS TO REQUIRE CONTOURING OF PROPERTY RIGHTS TO FIT A CERTAIN NARRATIVE.
IT'S CONCERNING THAT THE PROPERTY RIGHTS ARE BEING MANIPULATED AND POTENTIALLY UNDERMINED.
WHILE REGISTRATION ITSELF MAY NOT CONSTITUTE A PROPERTY RIGHT, THE IMPLICATION OF REGISTRATION AND REGULATION ARE SIGNIFICANT.
THE INFLUENCE WHAT PROPERTY OWNERS CAN AND CANNOT DO WITH THEIR OWN HOMES.
I HAVE A QUESTION SINCE I DON'T KNOW.
WE TALKED ABOUT THE FEES, $300 IS THE INITIAL FEE, AND THE RENEWAL IS ALSO 300.
I UNDERSTOOD FROM THE PRESENTATION, YOU GET $100 DISCOUNT FROM NO INCIDENTS, AND THEN YOU GET THE $100 DISCOUNT FROM ALSO DOING THE TRAINING.
THAT WOULD LEAVE IT. THAT'S CORRECT.
IT WOULD BE $100. I THINK THAT'S VERY GOOD. I APPRECIATE THAT.
IT'S CRUCIAL THAT ALSO ANY REGULATORY FRAMEWORK REGARDING SHORT-TERM RENTAL STRIKES A FAIR BALANCE BETWEEN COMMUNITY CONCERNS AND PROPERTY RIGHTS.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION AND CONSIDERATION.
>> WE HAVE ROB INGLES AND VERONICA VOCALEK.
THEN OUR NEXT TWO PEOPLE WILL BE ON ZOOM, AND IT IS MARK ASHER.
TAKES JUST A COUPLE SECONDS FOR HIM TO POP IN.
THE TURN ON YOUR CAMERA AND SPEAK.
GO AHEAD. YOU'LL NEED TO UNMUTE.
>> HELLO. CAN YOU HEAR ME OUT?
>> YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU NOW. PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING MAYOR SELECTED MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS MARK ASHER AND I STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY AS RESIDENT OF PLAINTIFF FOR THE PAST 14 YEARS.
I WISH TO ADDRESS THE CONTENTIOUS ISSUE OF THE PROPOSED SHORT-TERM RENTAL ORDINANCES.
THROUGHOUT THE MONTHS OF MEETINGS, BOTH HERE AND IN THE IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING SESSIONS, I'VE OBSERVED A PROCESS DRIVEN BY GOOD INTENTIONS, BUT MARRED BY EMOTIONAL REACTIONS RATHER THAN GROUNDED BY FACTUAL DATA.
WHILE I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S DEDICATION TO WHAT THEY BELIEVE IS BEST FOR OUR CITY, I MUST EXPRESS MY STRONG DISAPPROVAL OF RUSHING INTO LEGISLATION, DRIVEN BY FEAR RATHER THAN FACTS.
WE CANNOT AFFORD TO ENACT LAWS BASED ON UNFOUNDED FEARS OR TRANSFORM OUR CITY INTO A NANNY STATE WITH HASTILY IMPOSED REGULATIONS THAT UNJUSTLY LIMIT THE RIGHTS OF CERTAIN MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY.
WHILE ACKNOWLEDGE THE NEED FOR A REASONABLE REGISTRATION PROCESS TO PREVENT CLOVER SATURATION OF STRS AND NEIGHBORHOODS, THE CURRENT PROPOSAL LACKS THE NECESSARY DUE DILIGENCE AND INPUT FROM ALL AFFECTED PARTIES.
BEFORE ANY DECISION IS MADE, WE MUST ENSURE A BALANCED APPROACH THROUGH THOROUGH EVALUATION AND AMPLE TIME FOR DISCUSSION.
RUSHING TO MEET ARBITRARY DEADLINES COMPROMISES OUR STATUS AS A CITY OF EXCELLENCE.
I URGE YOU TO CONSIDER THE RAMIFICATIONS OF HASTY DECISIONS AND TO PRIORITIZE THE WELL BEING AND RIGHTS OF ALL PLANO RESIDENTS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND DEDICATION TO SERVING OUR COMMUNITY.
>> THE NEXT SPEAKER IS JENNIFER ASHER, WHO'S JOINING US VIA ZOOM AS WELL.
>> PERFECT. MY NAME IS JENNIFER ASHER.
I'VE BEEN IN AIRBNB HOST SINCE 2015. I LOVE HOSTING.
I DID NOT EVEN KNOW THE CITY WAS CONSIDERING LIMITING OUR OPPORTUNITIES AS RESIDENTS HOSTING A SHORT-TERM RENTAL UNIT UNTIL LAST FALL WHEN AN UPCOMING GUEST MESSAGED ME IN A PANIC ASKED ME IF STRS HAD BEEN BANNED IN PLANO.
WE HAD TO SEARCH THE INTERNET TO LEARN ABOUT THE TEMPORARY BAN AND THAT WE HAD BEEN GRANDFATHERED IN.
WE ASSUMED FROM WHAT WE FOUND THAT PLANO WAS JUST TRYING TO PUT A REGISTRATION AND PROCESS SO THAT YOU COULD KEEP TRACK OF STRS FOR TAX AND ACCOUNTABILITY PURPOSES.
WE DIDN'T THINK ABOUT IT AGAIN UNTIL ABOUT JUST TWO MONTHS AGO WHEN MEMBERS OF THIS ALLIANCE CONTACTED US FOR OUR HELP.
BY THAT TIME, IT SEEMED TOO LATE TO BE HEARD.
NOW, SEEING THE PROPOSED RESTRICTIONS AND REGISTRATION, I FEEL HURT AND ATTACKED.
I HAVE HEARD THAT THERE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT CLEANER RESIDENTS SAFETY AND COMFORT.
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I'M IN FAVOR OF A REGISTRATION, BUT THE COMPOSED REGISTRATION IS UNNECESSARILY COMPLEX, AND MOST REQUIREMENTS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYONE'S SAFETY THAT ONLY PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR NON-COMPLIANCE.IT IS HOLDING ONE SMALL SEGMENT OF HOMES TO A MUCH HIGHER STANDARD THAN ANY OTHER RESIDENT OR BUSINESS FOR NO GOOD REASON.
I NOW HAVE MET AND BECOME FRIENDS WITH MANY OTHER STR HOSTS.
AS A GROUP, WE ARE STANDING TOGETHER AND WANT TO WORK WITH THE CITY RATHER THAN HAVING TO AGAINST AN UNFAIR ORDINANCE OVER WHICH WE WERE GIVEN LITTLE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD.
PLEASE GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE A PART OF THIS PROCESS.
WE WOULD LIKE TO SIMPLIFY THE RESTRICTIONS AND REGISTRATION IN A WAY THAT DOES NOT INFRINGE ON OUR RIGHTS, BUT DOES PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORS AND ENSURE THAT A HOME BEING USED AS AN STR DOES NOT POSE ANY MORE DANGER OR DESTRUCTION THAN ANY OTHER HOME.
>> THE NEXT SPEAKER IS TATIANA RAMIREZ, FOLLOWED BY ENRIQUE RAMIREZ AND JOHN R. BOBO.
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL.
FOR FAR TOO LONG, BOTH THE STR OWNERS AND THEIR GUESTS HAVE GOTTEN AWAY WITH EVERYTHING.
ON THE OTHER HAND, WE THE NEIGHBORS ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT HAVE LIVED WITH THE NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES CAUSED BY THE LACK OF ACCOUNTABILITY.
IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THE TWO STRS COMBINED CAN TAKE UP TO 30 GUESTS IN ONE SINGLE NIGHT.
THIS MEANS THAT THE NUMBER OF OVERNIGHT GUESTS ALLOWED EQUALS THE SAME NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY LIVE IN OUR STREET.
IN ADDITION, AT ANY POINT DURING THEIR STAY, THE SAME GUESTS CAN INVITE PEOPLE OVER.
ON TOP OF THAT, WHEN THE EVENT IS POSTED ONLINE, THERE ARE ADDITIONAL UNEXPECTED GUESTS.
CAN YOU IMAGINE HAVING A WEDDING IN ONE STR AND A BACHELORETTE PARTY IN THE OTHER STR AT THE SAME TIME? IN ONE SINGLE DAY, WE HAD AT LEAST 190 PEOPLE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
PLEASE VOTE IN FAVOR OF REGISTRATION.
>> HELLO AGAIN. MY NAME IS ENRIQUE RAMIREZ.
I THINK WE'VE BEEN HEARING ALL NIGHT HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO LIVE WITH TWO STRS ON A STREET THAT ARE USED REPEATEDLY FOR PARTIES.
I WON'T REPEAT MYSELF, BUT I WANT TO SAY THAT WE DEFINITELY NEED REGULATION FOR STRS, AND I STRONGLY SUPPORT REGISTRATION.
LAST I WANT TO PROPOSE THAT THOSE OF US WHO TOOK LESS THAN 30 SECONDS GET A STEAK DINNER WITH MR. ANTHONY.
>> I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE THE BUDGET FOR STAKE, BUT YOU'RE WELCOME TO COFFEE.
>> JOHN ARBUCKLE. LAURA JONES, FOLLOWED BY SCOTT GOBLE AND STACY MATTHEWS.
LAURA. THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO SCOTT GOBLE.
>> THANK YOU. MY NAME IS GINA MOY.
I'VE LIVED IN PLANO, THE MAJORITY OF MY LIFE, AND I HAVE MY CURRENT HOME FOR OVER 20 YEARS.
I STRONGLY OPPOSE THE REGISTRATION RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE TASKFORCE REPORT.
IT DOESN'T SEEM FAIR, AND I DON'T BELIEVE IT WILL SOLVE THE CURRENT ISSUES WITH THE PROBLEMATIC STRS.
WELL, IT MAY NOT BE THE INTENT.
IT FEELS AS THOUGH WE ARE BEING DISCRIMINATED AGAINST WITH THE LIST OF ITEMS SUGGESTED FOR THE REGISTRATION PROCESS.
I REALLY BELIEVE IF WE HAVE A SIMPLE REGISTRATION PROCESS WITH MINIMAL FEES, THAT IS ALL THAT IS NEEDED.
THEN I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A TIERED SYSTEM FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT MANAGING THEIR PROPERTIES ACCORDINGLY.
SECOND, FIND THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THIRD, SUSPEND FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, AND THEN MAYBE ON THE FOURTH AND FINAL STRIKE, SHUT THAT PARTICULAR STR DOWN FOR GOOD.
THE IDEA OF HAVING ONE STRIKE AND YOU'RE SUSPENDED FOR X, Y, Z AMOUNT OF TIME IS NOT JUSTICE.
IT'S EXTREMELY HARSH PUNISHMENT, ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE OF US WHO.
>> [OVERLAPPING] TWENTY SECONDS.
>> HAVE WORKED TIRELESSLY TO PROPERLY MAINTAIN OUR HOMES AND PROTECT THE FABRIC OF THE CITY.
>> THE NEXT SPEAKER IS DANIELLE SANTANA LETARER FOLLOWED BY EDDIE LETARER AND GENE GOODWIN.
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SORRY. I NEED TO START TO SAY THAT I REGRET THAT TODAY THE REGISTRATION FOR THE SPEAK TODAY WAS NOT CLEAR FOR ME AND I ONLY PREPARED MY INTERVENTION ABOUT THE ORDINANCE.
I'M GOING TO READ MY STATEMENT TODAY BECAUSE IT'S MY OPINION AND THIS GO TO BE PART OF THE CITY PUBLIC RECORD.
WE UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF THE TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE FUTURE NEEDS AND REQUIREMENTS FOR ALL OF THE RESIDENTS OF PLANO, BUT WE BELIEVE THAT THE CURRENT PROPOSED ORDINANCE UNFAIRLY RESTRICT PROPERTY RIGHTS.
RATHER THAN BANS ON SHORT-TERM RENTALS, WE SHOULD FOCUS ON FINDING SOLUTIONS THAT BALANCE THE NEEDS OF THE OLDER COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
WE ARE NOT JUST THINKING ABOUT OUR CURRENT NEEDS, BUT ALSO ABOUT THE FUTURE REQUIREMENTS OF OTHER WHO MAY WANT TO USE THE PROPERTY IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE WILL REMOVE A PROPERTY OWNER'S RIGHTS TO DECIDE HOW TO USE THEIR OWN PROPERTIES, WHICH IS A FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT.
WE ASK THAT YOU REJECT THE EXTREME MEASURE AND RATHER WORK WITH US TO ESTABLISH FAIR REGULATION THAT PROTECT NEIGHBORHOODS FROM IRRESPONSIBLE OPERATOR, SUPPORT RESPONSIBLE SHORT-TERM RENTAL HOUSES AND GUESTS, PROMOTE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND UNDERSTANDING, UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT OF THE PROPERTY.
ADDITIONAL, ESTABLISH A PERCENTAGE OF DENSITY OF ALL TYPES OF SHORT-TERM RENTAL, DEPENDING [OVERLAPPING] ON THE DISTRICT CODE, OR NEIGHBORHOOD WILL ALLOW FOR MORE BALANCED APPROACH.
IN PLANO, RESIDENTS TRULY KNEW THE IMPACT OF THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE ON THE PROPERTY RIGHT, YOU WILL NEED A MUCH BIGGER ROOM FOR THIS MEETING IF EVERYBODY KNOW THAT.
LET'S DEAL WITH THE REAL ISSUES AFFECTING OUR COMMUNITY RATHER THAN TARGETING A SPECIFIC GROUP.
LET'S CREATE A MORE INCLUSIVE, DIVERSE, GROWING COMMUNITY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
>> MY ORDINANCE IS IN THE MAIL THAT I SENT TO YOU. THANK YOU.
>> HI, EDDIE LETTER, A 40-YEAR RESIDENT OF PLANO.
I ALSO THOUGHT I WAS SPEAKING ON ORDINANCES AS WELL SO I'M GOING TO HAVE MY SAY TO A CERTAIN DEGREE.
UNDERSTANDING THE CITY'S MESSAGING HERE.
IF YOU'RE TRAVELING WITH YOUR FAMILY AND PETS AND WANT TO STAY IN A NEIGHBORHOOD HOME WHILE VISITING FAMILY THAT LIVE HERE IN PLANO, PLEASE STAY IN RICHARDSON.
IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO PURCHASE A HOUSE IN PLANO AND WANT TO COME EXPERIENCE NEIGHBORHOOD LIFE IN PLANO AND VISIT SOME SCHOOLS FOR YOUR KIDS STAY IN ALLEN.
IF YOU'RE COMING FOR MEDICAL REASONS AND WANT TO STAY IN A RELAXED HOME ENVIRONMENT WITH A PRIVATE BACKYARD AND A POOL, PLEASE STAY IN FRISCO.
IF YOU'RE TRAVELING FOR BUSINESS, COME INTO A CORPORATE OFFICE IN PLANO AND WANT TO BRING THE FAMILY TO RELAX IN A NICE NEIGHBORHOOD, STAY IN ANOTHER CITY.
SHOULD I TELL THEM THAT WE CONSIDER THEM TRANSIENTS IN PLANO? IS THIS THE MESSAGE OF EXCELLENCE THAT WE WANT TO DELIVER? LOOK AT SURROUNDING CITIES AROUND US.
THEY HAVE A REGISTRATION PROCESS THAT'S FAIR, IT'S NOT HEAVY-HANDED, AND IT DOES NOT HAVE EXCESSIVE REGULATIONS AND SUSPENSIONS THAT DISCRIMINATES AGAINST A GROUP OF RESIDENTS.
SPECIFICALLY, ON ONE OF THOSE TOPICS IN THE REGISTRATION PROCESS, ONE AREA OF CONCERN IS NOISE COMPLAINTS.
FOR EXAMPLE, [OVERLAPPING] IT IS PROPOSED THAT A SINGLE NOISE COMPLAINT COULD LEAD TO A THREE-MONTH SUSPENSION.
WHILE I UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF ADDRESSING NOISE DISTURBANCES, I BELIEVE IT'S CRUCIAL TO HAVE A FAIR AND BALANCED PROCESS THAT DOES NOT UNDULY PUNISH STR OWNERS.
I SUGGEST IMPLEMENTING REASONABLE REGISTRATION RULES IN THE AREA, FINES AND PENALTIES SHOULD BE FAIR, AND WE SHOULD NOT BE WEAPONIZING NEIGHBORS AGAINST OTHER NEIGHBORS BY HAVING AN UNDUE PROCESS THAT YOU'RE PUTTING FORTH HERE. THANK YOU.
>> GENE LEFT, SO OUR LAST THREE ARE MATT BINGHAM, COREY REINACHER, AND WILL TARRANT.
>> I HAVE LIVED IN PLANO LONGER THAN MOST OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM.
NOT EVERYONE HAS A HORROR STORY.
IN FACT, THERE'S MAYBE A FEW DOZEN PEOPLE OUT OF 300,000 PEOPLE IN PLANO THAT HAVE A HORROR STORY.
I'VE NEVER SEEN ANY PROSTITUTES.
I'VE NEVER SEEN ANY DRUNKEN TEENAGE PARTIES IN PLANO.
THESE ARE VERY FEW OCCURRENCES IN PLANO, THEY'RE A HUGE PROBLEM.
PLEASE DON'T LIKE THESE EXAGGERATIONS, STRAW MAN ARGUMENTS, LIES, AND MANIPULATIONS, FEAR-MONGERING DICTATE LEGISLATION IN PLANO.
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THE DATA SHOWS THAT LIVE-IN MANAGEMENT STRS ARE NOT A SAFETY CONCERN.ONLY FIVE CALLS, IN FACT, WERE CALLED TO THE POLICE.
ONE OF THOSE WAS ME CALLING TO GET SOMEONE THAT WAS TRESPASSING OUT OF MY PROPERTY.
I COULDN'T HAVE DONE THAT IF I WAS RENTING TO THEM THE LONG TERM, AND THEY COULD HAVE POSED A THREAT TO ME AND MY NEIGHBORS.
BUT BECAUSE OF STR, I WAS ABLE TO GET THEM OUT ON TRESPASSING.
YES, [OVERLAPPING] STRS BRING MONEY IN, BUT THEY DON'T ALWAYS BRING PROFITS IN.
MANY OF US LIVE IN POOR NEIGHBORHOODS, WE CAN'T AFFORD TO RAISE OUR RATES OR PEOPLE WON'T BOOK WITH US.
WE WILL BE PUT OUT ON THE STREETS.
WE WILL LOSE OUR HOMES, AND I WILL BE ROAMING THE STREETS OF PLANO AND NOT SLEEPING IN A BED.
IF YOU INCREASE OUR COSTS, THERE MUST BE AN EXEMPTION FOR THOSE IN POOR NEIGHBORHOODS. THANK YOU.
> YEAH, SO I'M LAST. GOOD EVENING AGAIN.
KRISTEN AND I HAVE RENTED A SPARE BEDROOM IN OUR HOME FOR GOING ON SEVEN YEARS NOW.
ON BEHALF OF MYSELF IN THE PLANO SHORT-TERM RENTAL ALLIANCE, WE OPPOSE THE REGISTRATION ORDINANCE BEFORE YOU.
WE SUPPORT FAIR AND BALANCED REGULATIONS THAT APPLY EQUALLY TO ALL PLANO RESIDENTS, PROTECT THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF OUR NEIGHBORS, AND PROVIDE THE CITY WITH THE TOOLS NEEDED TO REMEDY NUISANCES.
LAST YEAR, AFTER BRIEFING FROM OUTSIDE COUNSEL, YOU ALL DIRECTED STAFF TO FOLLOW THE ARLINGTON MODEL TO GATHER DATA, COLLECT PUBLIC INPUT, AND PRODUCE RECOMMENDATIONS.
DESPITE HIS BEST INTENTIONS, THE TASK FORCE FAILED IN ITS PURPOSE TO OBJECTIVELY FOLLOW THE FACTS AND PRODUCE A REPORT BASED ON DATA AND EVIDENCE.
I URGE YOU TO LOOK PAST THE TASK FORCE REPORTS AND EXAMINE THE UNDERLYING DATA.
YOU'LL FIND THAT THERE ARE VERY FEW STRS IN PLANO, THAT THE VAST MAJORITY ARE RUN WITHOUT COMPLAINTS AND THAT MOST COMPLAINTS ARE GENERATED FROM A FEW PROBLEM PROPERTIES.
NOTE, THAT EVEN AMONG THE PROBLEM PROPERTIES, THE STAFF DOES NOT DISTINGUISH BETWEEN CALLS FOR NUISANCE ISSUES AND THOSE THAT ARE NOT FOR NUISANCE ISSUES AS ATTESTED BY CHIEF DRAIN AT THE SEPTEMBER 13TH TASKFORCE MEETING.
CHIEF DRAIN WENT ON TO STATE THAT THE HIGH-PROFILE CRIMES THAT HAVE DRAWN SO MUCH ATTENTION ARE NOT UNIQUE TO STRS AND THAT STRS ARE NOT CAUSING HIGHER RATES [OVERLAPPING] OF SUCH INCIDENTS.
ON MARCH 25TH, YOU WERE EMPHATIC THAT OUR VIEWS AS STR OWNERS ARE BEING HEARD.
I URGE YOU TO FOLLOW THE ARLINGTON MODEL AND TO DIRECT STAFF TO ENGAGE WITH OUR STAKEHOLDER GROUP AND ADDRESS OUR CONCERNS IN A MEANINGFUL AND SUBSTANTIVE WAY. THANK YOU.
>> THIS IS A CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE AND IT'S NOT A PUBLIC HEARING, IS IT?
[LAUGHTER] NIGHT'S JUST STARTED.
>> MAYOR IF I MAY, I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF SMALL CHANGES BASED UPON COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE EARLIER, IF I MAY HAVE A MOMENT.
>> FIRST OF ALL, ONE OF THE DISCUSSIONS WE HAD EARLIER WAS UNDER THE REGISTRATION REQUIRED SECTION 6-735.
WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS SOMEBODY WHO PURCHASES A STR FROM SOMEBODY ELSE.
WE HAD A 90-DAY LIMIT WHERE THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO REGISTER.
THERE WAS A DISCUSSION OF REDUCING THAT DOWN TO 30 DAYS.
THAT PROPOSAL. THE SECOND ONE.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SECTION 6-742, THE NOISE AND VIDEO MONITORING SECTION, ONE OF THE DISCUSSION ITEMS WAS THE FACT THAT WHERE THE CITY WOULD REQUEST THAT INFORMATION FROM OPERATORS, WE WOULDN'T DO IT WITHOUT LEGAL PROCESS SO WE ASKED YOU TO STRIKE THE LANGUAGE AND MADE AVAILABLE TO THE CITY UPON REQUEST.
THEN FINALLY, BASED ON COUNCIL MEMBER RICCIARDELLI'S SUGGESTION, AND I'M JUST GOING TO READ YOU THIS AMENDMENT, SO 6-745G IS NOW GOING TO READ AS NUISANCE INCIDENT OR SERIOUS INCIDENT REPORTED BY OWNER.
IN A DETERMINATION OR PROCEEDING TO DENY, SUSPEND, OR REVOKE A SHORT-TERM RENTAL REGISTRATION BASED ON A NUISANCE INCIDENT OR A SERIOUS INCIDENT, NEW LANGUAGE WILL STATE IN ORDER TO ENCOURAGE VOLUNTARY AND PROMPT REPORTING OF CRIMINAL CONDUCT,
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THE DIRECTOR MAY DISREGARD SUCH AN INCIDENT IF THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA IS MET.ONE AN OWNER, OPERATOR, OR MANAGER OF THE STR REPORTED SUCH INCIDENT IMMEDIATELY TO LAW ENFORCEMENT AND OR CODE ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES RESPONSIBLE FOR INVESTIGATING SUCH INCIDENTS, AND TWO, THE REPORTING PERSON AND STR OWNER WERE FULLY COOPERATIVE IN THE INVESTIGATION OF SUCH INCIDENT BY LAW ENFORCEMENT AND CODE ENFORCEMENT; AND THE NEW LANGUAGE WILL SAY, THE REPORTING PERSON WAS NOT CRIMINALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CONDUCT REPORTED AND WAS NOT RECKLESS IN THE RENTAL OF THE STR.
>> IN ADDITION TO THE AMENDMENTS, DIRECTOR HOWARD JUST NOTED, ON FURTHER CONSIDERATION, I'D LIKE TO AMEND TO REQUIRE THAT AN OPERATOR OR DESIGNATED CONTACT BE ABLE TO BE ON-SITE WITHIN AN HOUR, IF REQUIRED.
HERE, I'M THINKING MORE OF LESS OF POLICE RESPONSE AND OF BUSTED WATER LINES.
>> WHEN YOU SAID IF REQUIRED, DO WE NEED TO CLARIFY THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE?
>> MAYBE IF REQUIRED BY CITY STAFF WHOEVER FROM THE CITY IS RESPONDING TO A CALL FOR SERVICE OR A REQUEST OR AN ISSUE THAT'S REPORTED.
PRESUMABLY, THEY WOULD BE REPORTING. [OVERLAPPING]
>> IT CAN BE UNREASONABLE TO ASK SOMEBODY TO ALWAYS BE ON-SITE WITHIN AN HOUR.
>> NOT ON-SITE, HAVE A DESIGNATED CONTACT ABLE TO BE ON-SITE WITHIN AN HOUR, IF REQUIRED.
THAT'S WHAT WE HAD PRIOR TO THE RECENT AMENDMENT.
>> BUT IF REQUIRED IS VERY VAGUE.
>> WHAT WOULD THAT MEAN, IF REQUIRED?
>> BASED ON THAT REQUEST, I CAN MODIFY THIS, SO IT SAYS, DESIGNATED CONTACT SHALL MEET THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA.
NUMBER 1, ACCESSIBLE BY TELEPHONE; NUMBER 2, ABLE TO RESPOND TO RESOLVE THE REPORT OR REQUEST WITH ONE HOUR OF BEING CONTACTED IF REQUIRED.
LET'S SEE. OR WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME CONSIDERING OR LET ME SEE.
>> BUT TO ME, THEY NEED TO HAVE SOMEBODY WHO CAN RESOLVE THE ISSUE.
IF IT'S A WATER LINE, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THEM OR THEIR DESIGNATED CONTACT.
IT HAS TO BE SOMEBODY WHO CAN RESOLVE THE ISSUE.
YOU JUST CAN'T HAVE WATER RUNNING FOR DAYS.
SAYING THAT THE CONTACT HAS TO BE ABLE TO BE THERE IN AN HOUR, I THINK IT'S MORE THAT WE HAVE SOMEBODY WHO CAN RESOLVE THE CONCERN.
>> THEN MAKE THE LANGUAGE TO THE EFFECT THAT SOMEONE ABLE TO RESOLVE THE CONCERN ABLE TO BE ON SITE WITHIN AN HOUR.
YOU RAISE A GOOD POINT. SOMEBODY WHO'S ABLE TO ACTUALLY RESOLVE IT.
>> BECAUSE YOU COULD CALL A REPAIRMAN OR SOMETHING.
IT'S MORE REASONABLE ABOUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY WHO IS ACTIVELY ADDRESSING THE CONCERN WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME VERSUS SAYING A CERTAIN PERSON HAS TO BE ON SITE BECAUSE YOU CAN BE ON SITE AND NOT.
[OVERLAPPING] I WOULDN'T BE VERY HELPFUL IF I WAS ON SITE AND THERE'S WATER LEAKING.
>> I'M GETTING AT THE RESOLUTION.
WHATEVER THE ISSUE IS, AND IT COULD COME IN A VARIETY OF FORMS. IF RESOLUTION REQUIRES SOMEBODY TO ACTUALLY GET ON SITE, PERSONALLY, I DON'T CARE WHETHER THAT'S THE OWNER, AN OPERATOR, A PLUMBER, A LIBRARIAN.
WHO KNOWS? THERE COULD BE A BIBLIOLOGICAL EMERGENCY.
BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE SPELL OUT THAT SOMEBODY BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY RESPOND TO RESOLVE.
>> I THINK I HAVE A RESOLUTION TO THIS.
>> BASICALLY, IT'LL SAY, ABLE TO RESPOND TO RESOLVE THE REPORT OR REQUEST WITHIN ONE HOUR OF BEING CONTACTED, ARRIVE ON SITE, IF REQUIRED, OR WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME CONSIDERING THE CIRCUMSTANCES.
>> THAT ADDRESSES THE HOLE THAT I SAW.
>> I HAVE 6.741 OWNER SELF-INSPECTIONS AND REPORTING.
IN THAT LANGUAGE, WE SAID IT'S SUGGEST SUBMITTAL ON
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AN ANNUAL BASIS AS REQUIRED OR REQUESTED BY THE DIRECTOR.I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS ABOUT SELF-INSPECTIONS THESE DAYS.
ANYBODY'S FLYING IN AN AIRPLANE.
I'M THINKING IT SHOULD BE AN ANNUAL SUBMISSION.
AS SOON AS THEY REGISTER, EVERY YEAR, YOU HAVE TO SUBMIT ALONG WITH ANY OTHER PAPERWORK, THIS SELF-INSPECTION.
I THINK IT JUST HAS TO BE MANUALLY DONE EVERY YEAR.
IF THEY DON'T SUBMIT IT IN A TIMELY FASHION, THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO BACK AND REVISIT THE REGISTRATION PROCESS WITH THAT INDIVIDUAL BECAUSE, AGAIN, WE'VE SEEN HOW PEOPLE HAVE ABUSED SELF-INSPECTIONS.
>> IT WOULD BE AN ANNUAL SELF-INSPECTION HAS TO BE TURNED IN?
>> THAT MIGHT TAKE SOME ADDITIONAL DRAFTING ON THIS BECAUSE IF WE DO THAT, WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO INCLUDE THAT IN A DIFFERENT AREA AND MAKE SURE THAT IT ALL CONFORMS.
>> CAN THAT BE PART OF THE RENEWAL PROCESS? IT'S JUST ONE MORE ITEM THAT HAS TO BE SUBMITTED WITH THE RENEWAL? LET ME SEE.
IF I CAN FIND THE RIGHT SPOT HERE.
I CAN PROBABLY ADD AN ADDITIONAL PARAGRAPH TO 6-737 EXPIRATION OF REGISTRATION AND RENEWALS AND REQUIRE A RENEWAL APPLICATION.
MUST INCLUDE THE PRIOR ANNUAL SELF-INSPECTION REPORT.
>> THAT COVERS IT. NOW, AS THIS SSTR PROCESS MATURES WITHIN THE CITY OF PLANO, I SUSPECT WITH THE PENDING COURT CASES GOING ON THROUGHOUT TEXAS AND THE FEDERAL PROCESS THAT WE'LL HAVE TO REVISIT THESE ORDINANCES DOWN THE LINE.
THIS AFFORDS OPPORTUNITY FOR FUTURE CHANGES AS LAWS CHANGE.
THAT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO BE ALWAYS COGNIZANT OF, BUT THAT'S THE LAST.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT SECTION 6-739 ABOUT THE INSURANCE REQUIREMENT.
COUNCILMEMBER HOLMER ASKED EARLIER ABOUT THE COST OF MONITORING EQUIPMENT THAT WE'RE REQUIRING.
DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THE MILLION DOLLARS OF LIABILITY INSURANCE WILL COST PER YEAR?
>> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND WE'VE BEEN INFORMED BY THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL OPERATORS, IS THE FACT THAT IF YOU ADVERTISE ON SOME OF THESE PLATFORMS, THEY PROVIDE AN INSURANCE BENEFIT TO YOU OF UP TO $1 MILLION.
>> WE'RE LOOKING AT THE LANGUAGE ON THAT, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING WITH THE SHORT-TERM OPERATORS, WHETHER OR NOT THAT WOULD MEET THAT REQUIREMENT.
>> I SEE. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S PROBABLY ALREADY INCLUDED LISTING ON THOSE COMMON PLATFORMS.
>> GOT YOU. WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT RESPONSE.
>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE WITH
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THE CHANGES AND UPDATES THAT WE'VE JUST MADE.>> DID YOU SECOND IT, RICK? WE HAVE A MOTION.
HOLD ON, SECOND, JULIE. I'LL GET TO YOU.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER HORNE.
>> AS MRS. PATTILLO SAID, EVERY BUSINESS HAS A COST, AND I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR FOR US TO BE CHARGING THE SAME REGISTRATION FEES TO OWNER OCCUPIED RENTALS THAT ARE RENTING OUT ONE ROOM FOR AS LITTLE AS $28 A NIGHT AS WE ARE TO PEOPLE WHO ARE CAUSING THE ISSUES WITH HAVING WEDDINGS, PARTIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, NOT TO MENTION A HIGHER REGISTRATION FOR THOSE PROBLEM HOUSES MIGHT HELP DISSUADE THEM.
FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, ONE OF THE PROBLEM HOUSES, THE OWNER ACTUALLY CHOSE THE HOME AND PURCHASED IT FROM OUT OF STATE SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE IT WAS IN A NEIGHBORHOOD WITH NO HOA, AND THEY COULD RUN IT OUT AS A VENUE.
I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR AT ALL TO TREAT THAT THE SAME AS SOMEONE WHO'S RUNNING OUT A BEDROOM.
I'VE SPOKEN TO A SINGLE MOTHER THAT HELPS HER PAY HER MORTGAGE.
I REALIZE THAT WE'RE HAVING TO ELIMINATE THE OWNER OCCUPIED, MANAGER OCCUPIED BECAUSE OF PENDING LITIGATION AND NOT WANTING TO STEP IN ANYTHING THERE.
BUT I FEEL STRONGLY THAT WE NEED TO BE TREATING THEM DIFFERENTLY.
I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE CHARGING THE SAME REGISTRATION FEES OR RENEWAL FEES.
I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE REQUIRING THE SAME INSURANCE.
LET'S SEE. I THOUGHT I HAD ANOTHER COMMENT.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO EITHER ELIMINATE OR FOR THE GRANDFATHERED PROPERTIES, OR LIKE I SAID BEFORE.
I BELIEVE AS HOUSING BECOMES LESS AFFORDABLE AND MORE OF A CHALLENGE, I WOULD LIKE US TO POSSIBLY BE ABLE TO OPEN THE DOOR DOWN THE ROAD TO OWNER-OCCUPIED RENTALS.
SORRY, ANTHONY, YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING, GO AHEAD.
>> NO, I WASN'T TRYING TO CUT YOU OFF, COUNCILMEMBER HOLMER.
HONESTLY, I WAS JUST GOING TO RESPOND TO WHAT YOU WERE SAYING AND SAY THAT I THINK YOU'RE RAISING A VALID POINT.
MR. BINGHAM'S COMMENTS, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE PEOPLE PERHAPS WHO ARE NOT CAUSING ISSUES AND WHO ARE NOT NOT REAPING THE SAME REVENUE AS SOME OF THESE REALLY PROBLEMATIC OPERATORS WHO ARE ESSENTIALLY OPERATING EVENT VENUES AND PARTY HOUSES AND HOTELS IN SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS.
YOU MIGHT HAVE SOMEBODY, LIKE YOU SAID, WHO'S JUST RENTING OUT A BEDROOM IN THEIR HOUSE TO TRY TO MAKE ENDS MEET, WHICH DOES SEEM TO BE A DIFFERENT THING.
I STILL THINK FROM A ZONING PERSPECTIVE, WE NEED TO REGULATE IT THE SAME JUST BECAUSE AS I SAID, ON THAT ITEM, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY WAY TO ENFORCE WHO'S LIVING THERE, WHO'S NOT.
I JUST DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF DOING THAT.
BUT FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE REGISTRATION FEE, I THINK YOU RAISE A FAIR POINT FOR THOSE THAT ARE GRANDFATHERED IN TO TRY TO HELP PEOPLE MAYBE IT COULD BE BASED ON THE VALUE OF THE HOUSE AND THE ROOM OR MAYBE REALLY JUST IF THEY'RE RENTING OUT ONE ROOM OR TWO ROOM, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THERE'S LEGAL ISSUES WITH WHAT Y'ALL ARE TALKING ABOUT, SO WE WOULD NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT IN PRIVATE.
BUT THEY CAN GET UP TO A $200 WAIVER IF THEY DO TRAINING AND DON'T HAVE ANY NUISANCE INCIDENTS.
ALSO, IF YOU RENT JUST A LITTLE BIT LONGER, 30 OR MORE DAYS, YOU DON'T HAVE ALL THESE ISSUES.
>> WELL, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO GET INTO ANY LEGAL ISSUES THAT WOULD JEOPARDIZE THE IMPORTANT REGULATORY SCHEME THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IN THIS REGISTRATION ORDINANCE.
>> BUT I ALSO THINK THAT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY, THOUGH, TO DISCOURAGE PEOPLE FROM HAVING PROBLEM ABSENTEE LANDLORDS THAT THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT COST CAN MEASURE IT WITH WHAT THEY'RE BRINGING IN.
I JUST DON'T AGREE WITH US TREATING THEM THE SAME, $300 FOR SOMEONE WHO'S RENTING OUT OF ROOM FOR 30 BUCKS A NIGHT IS THE SAME, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE CHARGING FOR THESE VENUES, BUT I JUST WANT TO BE SENSITIVE TO THAT BOTH ON LOOKING OUT FOR THE EXPENSE TO THE OWNER OCCUPIED, AND TO YOUR POINT ON HOW DO YOU DIFFERENTIATE? FOR ONE THING, THERE'S A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION.
THEIR MAILING ADDRESS IS THE SAME AS THE HOME ADDRESS.
THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT TO VET THEM OUT FOR THAT.
>> COUNCILWOMAN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE MIGHT SUGGEST IS, WE KNOW THAT THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR.
THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME THINGS THAT WE LEARN OVER THIS FIRST YEAR.
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IT MIGHT ALSO GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO STUDY A LITTLE BIT FURTHER OF MAYBE WHAT A TIERED RATE STRUCTURE MIGHT LOOK LIKE OVER THAT TIME, SO I THINK WE WOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE IN CONTINUING TO STUDY THIS AND LOOKING THIS AND POSSIBLY BRINGING BACK NEXT YEAR A REVIEW OF THAT AND LOOK AT WHAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO BE DONE FROM A TIERED STRUCTURE.STARTING OFF THAT WAY, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE PREPARED TO DO THAT AT THIS POINT.
I THINK IT WOULD TAKE SOME TIME TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THOSE OPTIONS.
BUT IF COUNCIL WAS INTERESTED IN LOOKING AT THIS OVER THE COURSE OF A YEAR SO WE HAVE A BETTER TRACKING OF WHAT THOSE ACTUAL COSTS ARE, WHAT A BROADER SURVEY LOOKS LIKE, AND THE ABILITY TO STUDY THIS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER.
I WOULD HAVE NO ISSUE WITH BRINGING THIS BACK AT A YEAR FOR A FURTHER DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ADJUSTMENT FOR SOME OF THOSE FEES.
>> WE'RE DOING THAT OVER A SHORTER TIME FRAME IF POSSIBLE.
>> YEAH, I WOULD SUPPORT DOING THAT OVER A SHORTER TIME FRAME IF POSSIBLE ALSO.
THIS MAY NOT BE MEANINGFUL IF THE PLATFORMS COVER THE INSURANCE, BUT I WAS THINKING THAT OBVIOUSLY SHORT-TERM RENTAL OPERATORS WHO ARE GENERATING THESE HORROR STORIES THAT WE'VE HEARD ABOUT.
THEY'RE CREATING A BIGGER RISK.
THEIR INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS SHOULD BE HIGHER BECAUSE INSURANCE IS PROPORTIONATE TO THE RISK.
WHEREAS SOMEBODY WHO'S NEVER HAD INCIDENT FOR FIVE YEARS, THAT MAY BE A DIFFERENT CASE.
>> MAYOR COUNCIL, SINCE THIS IS GOING INTO EFFECT IN AUGUST, I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO SHORT BUT AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, WOULD THAT SUFFICE AS FAR AS SHORTER TIME FRAME TO BE ABLE TO BRING BACK?
>> TO ME, $300 TO SOMEONE WHO'S RENTING A ROOM OUT FOR $30 A NIGHT IS VERY SIGNIFICANT.
EVEN IF IT'S THE FIRST TIME, I GUESS, DO YOU GET THE DISCOUNT FIRST TIME IF YOU DO THE TRAINING OR IS THAT ONLY ON THE REGISTRATION RENEWAL?
>> THE FIRST TIME, SO WE REDUCE IT DOWN TO $200.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY SERIOUS ODIOUS INCIDENTS WITHIN THE PRIOR 12 MONTHS, IT REDUCES DOWN AN ADDITIONAL $100.
YOU GET TO A POINT WHERE YOU'RE PAYING $100.
>> I STILL HAVE AN ISSUE WITH CHARGING THE SAME AMOUNT TO THAT PERSON AS SOMEONE WHO'S RENTING THEIR ENTIRE HOUSE OUT.
I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD TREAT THEM THE SAME.
ON BOTH SIDES, I THINK WE SHOULD BE CHARGING MORE TO ONE SIDE AND CHARGING LESS OR NOTHING, IF IT'S SOMEONE THAT'S NEVER HAD AN INCIDENT, NEVER HAD AN ISSUE.
THAT'S JUST SOMETHING I FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT.
I THOUGHT THAT THERE WAS STILL SOMETHING IN HERE THAT WAS REQUIRING THE ADDITIONAL INSURANCE.
FOR ACCEPTING THE AIRBNB INSURANCE, THAT MAKES ME HAPPY TO HEAR THAT FOR THE SMALLER.
BUT AGAIN, IF IT'S A HIGHER LIABILITY, IT'S NOT JUST ONE ROOM OWNER OCCUPIED.
BUT I I FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT THAT.
>> I'LL TELL YOU, ON COUNCILMEMBER HOLMER'S POINT, I DO THINK THAT, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS PROBABLY NOT SOMETHING WE CAN DO TONIGHT.
BUT AS WE LOOK AT THIS, AS CITY MANAGER ISRAELSON ALLUDED TO, I THINK IT WOULD MAKE SENSE, ESPECIALLY ON THAT INSURANCE PIECE TO CALIBRATE THE AMOUNT OF INSURANCE TO THE RISK THAT THE STR OPERATOR IS POSING, AND LIKE OTHER THINGS WE'VE DONE WITH THIS ORDINANCE, HAVE A CARROT-AND-A-STICK APPROACH.
IF YOU'RE ON REALLY GOOD BEHAVIOR, IT COULD BE LOWER, AND IF YOU'VE HAD SOME INCIDENTS, IT SHOULD BE HIGHER TO BE COMMENSURATE TO THE RISK THAT THAT OPERATOR IS POSING.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND TO APPROVE THE ITEM NUMBER 2.
ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND.
MOTION PASSES. THERE'LL BE NO FURTHER BUSINESS.
[COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST]
>> COMMENTS? OH, DO WE? I DIDN'T KNOW WE WERE DOING THAT.
>> WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER IN ZOOM, THAT'S BRETT COOPER.
>> I WILL SAY FIRST, I GUESS IT HELPS TO READ THE AGENDA BECAUSE I DIDN'T REALIZE SHORT-TERM RENTALS WERE ON THE AGENDA OR I WOULD NOT HAVE SIGNED UP FOR TONIGHT.
I ACTUALLY HAVE SPOKEN TO TWO COUNCILMEMBERS ALREADY, BUT JUST WANTED TO BRING A POINT UP AS YOU LOOK AT THE BUDGET AND THINGS FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
IN REGARDS TO THE GREAT UPDATE REBATE PROGRAM AND I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT HOW THAT IS PERHAPS LESS ABLE TO BE
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ACCESSED BY FOLKS AS THE HOUSING MARKET HAS GOTTEN MORE AND MORE OUT OF CONTROL.FOR EXAMPLE, I'M IN A HOUSE THAT'S 48 YEARS OLD, AND FOR 2023, AND NOW FOR 2024, I'M NOT ABLE TO ACCESS THIS PROGRAM TO DO UPDATES TO MY HOME.
RIGHT NOW, WE USE THE 85TH PERCENTILE OF THE SINGLE FAMILY MORTGAGE LIMIT.
THAT WENT UP WHEN I LOOKED AT LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR, $30,000.
BUT THE MARKET VALUE OF PEOPLE'S HOUSES HAS GONE UP MUCH MORE THAN THAT.
SO I AGAIN, DO NOT QUALIFY THIS YEAR, AND SO WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST OR PERHAPS ASK TO LOOK AT IS USING THE APPRAISED VALUE OR THE ASSESSED VALUE, BECAUSE MY SENSE IS WE WANT TO ACTUALLY TARGET LIVING HOMEOWNERS, FOR EXAMPLE, WHO HAVE A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, ARE FOLKS WHO HAVE THE 65 AND OLDER EXEMPTION.
IF WE HAD USED ASSESSED VALUE, I WOULD QUALIFY THIS YEAR AND WOULD HAVE QUALIFIED LAST YEAR.
I THINK WE JUST NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE USING AS THE QUALIFICATIONS, BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE GOING TO KEEP PRICING MORE AND MORE PEOPLE OUT OF HOMES, ESPECIALLY ONES THAT ARE OLDER WHO MAY NEED UPDATES.
THEN, SECOND, JUST LOOKING AT WHAT THE PROPERTY IMPROVEMENTS ARE.
RIGHT NOW, WE REQUIRE THE IMPROVEMENTS TO BE AT LEAST 10% OF THE HOME VALUE OR $20,000, WHICHEVER IS LESS.
NOW, EVERYBODY HAS TO SPEND $20,000 ON PROJECTS, SO YOU MAY HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE ADDING THINGS ON SOLELY TO GET TO $20,000 AND ITS FULL DISCLOSURE.
WE DID THAT THE LAST TIME WE ACCESSED THIS REBATE IN 2020, BECAUSE WE WERE ABOUT $2,000 SHORT.
I JUST WOULD ALSO SUGGEST LOOKING AT MAYBE DOING A TIERED APPROACH SO THAT IF SOMEBODY HAS A NECESSARY HOME IMPROVEMENT, BUT IT'S ONLY $10,000, MAYBE THEY DON'T GET THE FULL AMOUNT, BUT THEY COULD GET A PARTIAL REBATE FOR THAT.
I THINK THAT ALSO MIGHT ALLOW MORE MONEY TO BE ALLOCATED.
I'M JUST VERY FRUSTRATED AT THE LACK OF ACCESSIBILITY TO THIS PROGRAM AS THE HOUSING MARKET HAS GOTTEN OUT OF CONTROL, AND SO JUST REALLY THINK THIS IS ALSO A POINT OF PRIDE.
WHEN I TALKED TO OUR OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS, WHEN I GOOGLED, WE WERE THE ONLY CITY IN THE METROPLEX I COULD FIND THAT HAS THIS PROGRAM, ASIDE FROM GARLAND, BUT THEIR WEBSITE HAD THE LIMIT AT 268,000, SO I DON'T THINK MANY PEOPLE WOULD QUALIFY.
I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT FORWARD AS SOMETHING FOR COUNCIL AND STAFF TO THINK ABOUT AS A UNIQUE PROGRAM WE HAVE, BUT HOW DO WE NEED TO REWORK IT IN THIS ERA OF HOUSING THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY IN. THANK YOU.
>> OH, YEAH. GO AHEAD. [OVERLAPPING]
>> NO, YOU GO AHEAD. I THINK YOU'RE GOING THE SAME PLACE I WAS GOING.
COUNCILMEMBER HOLMER AND I HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN DISCUSSING THE GREAT UPDATE REBATE AND GETTING IT ON A COUNCIL AGENDA IN THE NEAR FUTURE, THERE ARE SEVERAL ITEMS THAT WE'D LIKE TO LOOK AT.
I KNOW COUNCILMEMBER HOLMER'S BROUGHT IT UP OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
I KNOW I'VE BEEN BRINGING UP SOME THINGS LIKE OWNER-OCCUPIED RATHER THAN HOUSE FLIPPERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT I THINK SINCE 2022.
ANYWAY, IS THAT WHERE YOU'RE GOING? WE'D LOVE TO PUT IT ON A FUTURE AGENDA.
>> THANK YOU. THERE NO FURTHER BUSINESS, WE ADJOURN.
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