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[PRELIMINARY OPEN MEETING]
NOW DECLARE THE PLANO CITY COUNCILS CONVENED AN OPEN SESSION THAT ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.THE COUNCIL WILL NOW RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION IN TRAINING ROOM A TO HOLD A CLOSED EXECUTIVE MEETING PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF VERNON'S TEXAS CODES ANNOTATED GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 5 51.
THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AUTHORITY CONTAINED IN SECTION 5 51 0 71 TO CONSULT WITH THE ATTORNEY TO RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE AND DISCUSS LITIGATION AND SECTION 5 51 0 87 TO DISCUSS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MATTERS.
THE PLAINTIFF, CITY COUNCIL PRELIMINARY OPEN MEETING IS RECONVENED INTO OPEN SESSION THAT ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.
COUNCIL MEMBER HOMER IS ON HER WAY.
OUR FIRST ITEM ON THE PRELIMINARY AGENDA IS CONSIDERATION AND ACTION RESULTING FROM THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.
OUR NEXT ITEM IS REVIEW OF BULKY WASTE PILOT PROGRAM ANDREA PARK.
I'M ANDREA PARK, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS COMMUNITY SERVICES DIVISION, AND I'LL BE PROVIDING YOU WITH A VERY BRIEF OVERVIEW OF COMMUNITY SERVICES AS WELL AS AN UPDATE AND RECOMMENDATION FOR THE BULKY WASTE PILOT PROGRAM.
THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DIVISION IS COMPRISED OF 140 STAFF MEMBERS, AND WE HAVE A $15.7 MILLION OPERATING BUDGET.
WE ARE COMPRISED OF A BUSINESS UNIT, FLEET SERVICES, ENVIRONMENTAL WASTE SERVICES, COMPOST AND COMMERCIAL AND TRUST RECYCLING.
UM, OUR BUSINESS UNIT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES GROUP AS WELL AS OUR ASSET MANAGEMENT GROUP.
THIS, UM, ASSET MANAGEMENT GROUP WAS ROLLED OUT ABOUT SIX YEARS AGO, AND IN THAT TIME THEY HAVE BEEN VERY BUSY WITH ABOUT LITTLE UNDER 99,000 REQUESTS.
WE SUPPORT 680,000 ASSETS AND SUPPORT STREETS, DRAINAGE, WATER, SEWER, AND SIGNS AND TRAFFIC.
OUR FLEET SERVICES DEPARTMENT MAINTAINS SAFE, EFFICIENT AND DEPENDABLE VEHICLES THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PURCHASE OF VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT, AND WE MANAGE THE EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT FUND.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE 2,480 PIECES OF EQUIPMENT VALUED AT $113 MILLION, AND WE HAVE BEEN UTILIZING A WEB-BASED FLEET MANAGEMENT SYSTEM CALLED FASTER, WHICH ALLOWS US FOR REAL-TIME REPORTING AND AN INCREASED ACCESS TO KEY PERFORMANCE MEASURES.
WE ALSO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FUELING NEEDS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
LAST FISCAL YEAR, WE HAD 1.2 MILLION GALLONS OF USAGE AT THE COST OF $4.7 MILLION.
WE ALSO HAVE A FUEL TANKER THAT WE DEPLOYED DURING EMERGENCY RESPONSE FOR GENERATORS AND FOR OPERATIONS.
AND WE ALSO ARE AT ABOUT 95% OF THE DESIGN COMPLETION FOR THE HIGH POINT FUELING STATION, WHICH WAS APPROVED IN THE LAST BOND ELECTION.
AND THIS IS JUST A GRAPHIC THAT I'LL, I'LL SKIP THROUGH FOR THE SAKE OF TIME, BUT IT'S JUST TO ILLUSTRATE THE NUMBER OF DEPARTMENTS THAT WE IMPACT IN, UH, FLEET ENVIRONMENTAL WASTE SERVICES.
THIS GROUP IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE RESIDENTIAL WASTE AND RECYCLING COLLECTION, LANDSCAPE TRIMMINGS, HOUSEHOLD CHEMICALS, BULK WASTE COLLECTION, COMPOST OPERATIONS, COMMERCIAL WASTE AND RECYCLING COORDINATION, AND OUR EWS CUSTOMER CALL SERVICE CENTER.
AND FISCAL YEAR 2223, WE HAD JUST UNDER 75,000 CUSTOMER.
WE MADE OVER 9 MILLION STOPS FOR COLLECTIONS.
WE HAD 53,760 RESIDENTIAL TONS MAKE IT TO THE LANDFILL.
UH, A LITTLE LESS THAN 16,000 TONS RECYCLED.
WE COLLECTED JUST UNDER 20,000 TONS OF YARD TRIMMINGS, 33,000 GALLONS OF HOUSEHOLD WASTE, AND DID ALL OF THAT WITH A CUSTOMER SATISFACTION RATING OF 99%.
IT'S NOT ME, IT'S ALL OF THE STAFF.
UM, OKAY, SO WITH THOSE LAND TR UH, I'M SORRY, THE YARD DEBRIS TRIMMINGS MENTIONED ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, THOSE ARE PROCESSED THROUGH OUR COMPOSTING PRODUCT.
UM, OUR COMPOSTING OPERATION RESULTING IN THE SALE OF TEXAS PURE PRODUCTS.
UM, TEXAS PURE DIVERTS APPROXIMATELY 60,000 TONS OF YARD DEBRIS FROM THE LANDFILL.
IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR, WE BASICALLY LIKE COLLECT WASTE COLLECTIONS, UM, YARD WASTE FROM PLANO, ALLEN, FRISCO, MCKINNEY, AND RICHARDSON.
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WE PROCESS THAT AT THE COASTA ROAD TRANSFER STATION AND THE 1 21 REGIONAL LANDFILL.AND ALL OF THIS IS AVAILABLE FOR SALE BAGS, BULK PICKUP AND DELIVERY.
IF YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN THOSE LOCATIONS, THE PHOTO ON THE LEFT IS CUSTER ROAD WHERE MOST MATERIALS ARE DROPPED OFF, AND WE DO AN INITIAL, UH, SCREENING OF THE MATERIAL.
AND THEN THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT IS THE 1 21 LANDFILL, WHERE WE ACTUALLY DO OUR COMPOSTING OPERATIONS AND COLORING OF MULCHING AND MAKING OF MIXTURES OF SOILS.
AND WHAT WE ARE HERE FOR ON YOUR AGENDA, THE BULKY WASTE PROGRAM.
SO THE STANDARD BULKY WASTE PROGRAM THAT, UM, IS CITYWIDE IS COLLECTED ONE DAY EACH MONTH, AND THIS IS GONNA BE ITEMS THAT DO NOT FIT INTO THE STANDARD 95 GALLON CART.
YOUR CREWS DRIVE BY COLLECTION POINTS, YOUR STANDARD COLLECTION POINTS, WHICH IS TYPICALLY GONNA BE IN THE ALLEY.
UM, AND THEY COLLECT MATERIALS THAT MEET THE BULKY WASTE PROGRAM GUIDELINES.
UM, THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE YARD BRUSH, UH, DEBRIS, TREES, OR ITEMS CONTAINING FON.
THOSE ALL ARE SPECIAL PAID COLLECTIONS.
SO BACK IN FEBRUARY OF 2018, WE, UM, LAUNCHED THE ON-CALL COLLECTIONS PILOT PROGRAM.
THIS AFFECTED ABOUT 4,774 HOMES, UM, LOCATED IN THE DARK SHADED GRAY AREAS TO THE EAST AND WEST OF CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY.
UM, THE PILOT PROGRAM ALLOWED FOR RESIDENTS TO SCHEDULE ONE BULKY, UH, WASTE PICKUP PER WEEK, AND IT INCLUDED BIG ITEMS AS WELL AS LARGE YARD DEBRIS.
THE GOALS AT THE TIME WERE TO REDUCE THE WEAR AND TEAR ON OUR VEHICLES AND LOWER FUEL CONSUMPTION, AS WELL AS IMPROVING THE FLOW IN THE ALLEYS BY REMOVING A LOT OF THAT BULKY WASTE FROM THE ALLEYWAYS.
WHAT WE LEARNED THROUGH THE PAST SIX YEARS, WE LEARNED THAT THIS PROGRAM CREATED A LOT OF RESIDENT CONFUSION ON SCHEDULING REQUIREMENTS, ESPECIALLY IN HIGH TURNOVER AREAS.
UM, AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS A LOT OF THE AREAS THAT HAVE A LOT OF RENTALS, UM, WE SAW AN INCREASE IN MIXED PILES OF TRASH AND BRUSH, WHICH THEN AFFECTED OUR ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO COMPOST THAT EQUIPMENT AND TURN IT INTO OTHER, OR NOT EQUIPMENT, BUT THE, UM, THE TRASH COLLECTIONS CONTAMINATED THE BRUSH IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.
WE HAD CHALLENGES WITH COLLECTION POINTS.
UM, EXAMPLES OF THAT ONE INCLUDE, WE HAD A LOT OF RESIDENTS WHO SAID IT WAS DIFFICULT FOR ONE REASON OR ANOTHER TO MOVE THEIR ITEMS TO THE FRONT AS OPPOSED TO PUT IT IN THE ALLEY.
SO DESPITE TRYING TO MOVE THINGS FROM THE ALLEY, WE WERE STILL PUTTING IT IN THE ALLEY TO, UM, MAKE THOSE REQUESTS.
UM, WE HAD A LOT OF RESIDENT COMPLAINTS REGARDING THE BULK ITEMS OUT ON THE CURBS.
IT BECAME VERY DIFFICULT FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES GROUP TO MONITOR FOR VIOLATIONS BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT AWARE OF WHEN THE DIFFERENT PICKUP, UM, UM, HAD BEEN SCHEDULED.
THERE WAS NO SET, UH, SCHEDULE FOR THEM TO FOLLOW.
AND THEN WE ALSO WERE DETERMINED WHAT WOULD IT COST, UM, WHAT EQUIPMENT WOULD BE NEEDED TO ROLL THIS OUT CITYWIDE.
AND IT WOULD BE A PRETTY FINANCIALLY DIFFICULT, UM, RIGHT NOW, ESPECIALLY WITH INCREASED EQUIPMENT COST.
UM, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN ABOUT FOUR ADDITIONAL DRIVERS AND 11 BOOM TRUCKS THAT WE WOULD NEED TO MOVE THIS OUT CITYWIDE.
UM, IT IS OUR RECOMMENDATION AT THIS TIME TO END THIS PARTICULAR PRI UH, PILOT PROGRAM EFFECTIVE JULY 1ST, WE WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH OUR COMMUNICATIONS AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH GROUP TO DEVELOP A MESSAGE TO THOSE THAT ARE IN THE PILOT AREAS.
WE WOULD NOTIFY THEM NO LATER THAN MAY 1ST TO ALLOW FOR ADEQUATE NOTICE.
AND WHILE THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM DIDN'T MEET THE GOALS THAT WE WERE INITIALLY LOOKING FOR, UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO EXPLORE OTHER BULKY WAYS PRACTICES, UM, MOVING FORWARD.
AND WITH THAT, I WILL HAPPILY ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
SO MAYOR AND COUNCIL, REAL QUICK.
THIS WAS A, A, A, A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF A PROGRAM THAT, UH, ATTEMPTED SOME INNOVATION, TRIED THINGS, UH, BUT FOUND THAT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND WITHIN THE PRACTICES AND THE EXPECTATIONS, IT JUST DIDN'T WORK.
A LITTLE BIT TOO EXPENSIVE, A LITTLE BIT TOO COMPLICATED TO, UH, WORK AS A PROGRAM.
SO GOING BACK TO THE, UM, OLD WAY OF DOING THINGS IS PROBABLY THE MOST EFFICIENT, UH, PATH FORWARD.
AND THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION WE HAVE AT THIS TIME.
SO, UH, MS. PARK WILL HANDLE ANY HARD QUESTIONS, I'LL HANDLE ANY EASY ONES.
UM, BUT BEYOND THAT, UH, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE PATH WE INTEND TO, TO MOVE FORWARD.
MAYOR PROAM, IS THERE A REASON IF WE KNOW THAT IT'S NOT WORKING, WHY WE WOULD WAIT TO STOP IT UNTIL JULY 1ST? IT'S SIMPLY TO PROVIDE NOTIFICATIONS FOR THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE UTILIZED IT, REALIZE IT'S GONNA END, AND THAT THEY WILL TRANSITION BACK TO THEIR ONE PER MONTH PICKUP AND NOT AN ON DEMAND RESPONSE.
AND WE THINK IT'S GONNA TAKE THAT LONG FOR US TO, TO NOTIFY EVERYONE IF WE CAN GO FASTER.
I ASSURE YOU, OUR COMMUNICATIONS IN PUBLIC WORKS WILL WORK
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TO MAKE IT GO FASTER.SO, UM, YOU, YOU SAID THIS PILOT PROGRAM WENT ON FOR SIX YEARS SINCE 2018.
SO IT WAS, WAS IT, WAS THERE A GRANT OR WAS THERE A PROPOSAL? WHAT, WHAT, WHAT BROUGHT UP UPON THIS PILOT PROGRAM IN THE FIRST PLACE? DO YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO TAKE THAT ONE? YOU, IT PREDATES ME.
SO IF HE KNOWS THE ANSWERS, HE CAN HAVE IT.
I WAS, I WAS AROUND BACK THEN.
I'VE BEEN, UH, SO THIS WAS, THIS WAS, UH, AN EFFORT TO, TO TRY TO STREAMLINE, UM, GOING INTO, UH, A, A SITUATION OF JUST TRYING TO PROVIDE BETTER SERVICES.
THIS WAS ACTUALLY A STAFF INITIATED, UM, PROGRAM.
THIS WASN'T REALLY DONE THROUGH, UH, THROUGH ANY GRANT FUNDS, WHICH IS WHY, FROM AN OPERATIONAL PERSPECTIVE, THERE WOULD BE ADDITIONAL COST TO CONTINUE DOWN THAT, DOWN THAT PATH.
BUT THIS WAS, AGAIN, STAFF TRYING TO BE MORE INNOVATIVE AND TRYING TO FIND COST SAVINGS, TRYING TO FIND WAYS THAT WE CAN DO, UH, BUSINESS IN A MORE EFFICIENT AND BETTER MANNER.
AND IT JUST DIDN'T WORK OUT THAT WAY.
ALRIGHT, ANTHONY, THANK YOU, MAYOR.
I JUST WANTED TO QUICKLY SAY KUDOS FOR HAVING THE OPEN-MINDEDNESS TO TRY SOMETHING NEW.
DOUBLE KUDOS FOR HAVING THE HUMILITY TO SAY THIS ISN'T WORKING.
WE'RE GONNA PIVOT AWAY FROM IT.
AND TRIPLE KUDOS FOR HAVING THE PERSEVERANCE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, DOWN THE ROAD, WE'RE GONNA TRY ANOTHER INNOVATIVE IDEA.
OKAY, OUR NEXT ITEM IS, UH, ITEM THREE, SHORT-TERM RENTAL RE REGISTRATION ORDINANCE OVERVIEW.
ALRIGHT, MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, EXECUTIVE STAFF MEMBERS.
I AM THE DIRECTOR OF NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, AND I AM HERE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT TO START TALKING TO YOU ABOUT OUR PROPOSED SHORT-TERM RENTAL REGISTRATION ORDINANCE.
AND I KNOW THAT'S A MOUTHFUL, AND THEN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON IT, UH, AFTER I FINISH.
SO, UH, AS YOU ARE WELL AWARE, THIS IS THE TIMELINE THAT WE'VE BEEN ON, AND WE'RE FINALLY AT A TIME TOWARDS THE END OF THIS TIMELINE WHERE WE'RE STARTING TO GIVE YOU RECOMMENDATIONS BASED UPON THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE COLLECTED OVER, UM, YOU KNOW, THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF AT LEAST, UM, ON SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
AND, UH, AND, AND PUT THOSE, UH, BEFORE YOU, AND THIS, AT LEAST AT THIS PART, IN THIS PROPOSED REGISTRATION PROGRAM.
UH, YOU GOT INFORMATION, UH, FROM THE FINAL REPORT FROM THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL TASK FORCE.
AND THEY PROVIDED RECOMMENDATIONS FROM ALL THE WORK THAT THEY DID, UH, REGARDING, HEY, HOW TO BEST HANDLE THE ISSUE OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS HERE IN PLANO.
UH, THEY CAME UP WITH KIND OF FOUR AREAS THEY WANT YOU TO DEAL WITH, AND ONE IS REGISTRATION.
UH, IN ADDITION TO THAT, IT'S GONNA BE TRAINING AND, UH, FOR, UH, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS, SHORT-TERM RENTAL PROPERTY OWNERS, ADDITIONAL, UH, AREAS THAT THEY WANT TO, TO ADDRESS IS ZONING.
AND THEN ALSO FINALLY, KIND OF WHAT TO DO WITH THOSE PROBLEM ISSUES.
DO WE HAVE ANY WAY OF DEALING WITH THOSE? SO TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION IS GOING TO BE ON THE SHORT TERM RENTAL, UH, REGISTRATION PROGRAM AND THE TRAINING THAT WILL BE INCORPORATED IN THAT PROGRAM.
UM, AND, UH, THE, UH, AS THE, UH, SHORT TERM RENTAL TASK FORCE MET, THEY CAME UP WITH 14 PROPOSALS.
AND, UH, THESE RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE BEEN INCORPORATED INTO THE ORDINANCE THAT I WILL BE ADDRESSING TONIGHT.
IN ADDITION, THE, THEY TALKED ABOUT TRAINING, AND SO THE, THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THEY HAD ON TRAINING ON A TRAINING PROGRAM OR TRAINING COURSE FOR SHORT TERM RENTAL OWNERS WILL ALSO BE INCORPORATED IN WHAT I DISCUSSED TONIGHT.
SO WITH THAT, SO WE HAVE A PROPOSED ORDINANCE, AND IF MY, UH, UNDERSTANDING OF ROMAN NUMERALS CONTINUES TO BE CORRECT, THAT IS ARTICLE 24, REGISTRATION OF SHORT TERM RENTAL PROPERTIES.
AND WITH THAT, WITH THIS, I, I DO WANT TO, UH, KIND OF JUST TAKE A MOMENT TO ACKNOWLEDGE ALL THE GOOD WORK THAT, UH, MS. MS MIMS, HER, UH, UH, HER GROUP DID, UH, MS. DAY, HER GROUP DID THOSE FOLKS AT NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES WAY BEFORE I GOT THERE TO COME UP WITH WHAT WE HAVE AND WHAT WE ARE PRESENTING FOR YOU TONIGHT.
SO, UH, WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT AS FAR AS THE REGISTRATION? SO, JUST GENERALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS WE ARE GONNA SAY THAT IF YOU ARE A SHORT-TERM RENTAL OPERATOR HERE IN THE, UH, CITY OF PLANO, THAT YOU'LL HAVE TO OPERATE THAT UNDER A VALID REGISTRATION.
UH, IN ORDER, IN ORDER TO GET THAT REGISTRATION, WHAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO IS YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO SHOW THAT YOU HAVE THE LEGAL RIGHT TO BE A SHORT-TERM RENTAL OPERATOR.
AND THAT'LL EITHER BE THROUGH THE ZONING PROCESS, THROUGH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, OR IF YOU'VE BEEN PART OF THE GRANDFATHERING, UH, UH, PROCESS THAT WE'VE, UH, PUT IN PLACE OVER THE PAST YEAR.
UH, ALSO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS IF YOU'RE A MULTI-FAMILY, LET'S SAY, OR A, UH, UH, AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, CONDO COMPLEX, AND YOU HAVE SEVERAL OF 'EM, EACH INDIVIDUAL UNIT
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WILL HAVE TO HAVE ITS OWN REGISTRATION.UH, ONCE YOU, ONCE, ONCE YOU MEET ALL THOSE REQUIREMENTS, UH, THEN YOU HAVE A APPLICATION PROCESS.
SO WE'VE GOT THE APPLICATION, AND THAT'S GOING TO FIRST START OFF.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO IS YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THAT, THAT YOU GIVE US YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION.
SO ALL OWNERS, UH, OPERATORS, AND WE WANT NAMES, ADDRESSES, PHONE NUMBERS, EMAIL ADDRESSES OF THOSE FOLKS.
AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, UH, ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS IS GONNA BE, THERE'S GONNA BE DESIGNATED CONTACTS IF YOU ARE A OWNER OR OPERATOR THAT EITHER, LET'S SAY, LIVE OUTSIDE THE AREA OR, UH, UH, OR MAYBE A, UH, A CORPORATE OWNER.
AND SO THAT DESIGNATED CONTACT, WE WANT THE INFORMATION FROM FOR THOSE DESIGNATED CON CONTACTS.
AGAIN, UH, NAME, ADDRESS, PHONE NUMBER, EMAIL ADDRESS.
SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THEM.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, PART OF THIS REGISTRATION PROCESS WILL INCLUDE A, A COPY OF THE FLOOR PLAN SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT THE, UH, WHAT THE LAYOUT WILL BE LIKE, AND ALSO EXPLAIN WHERE THE SAFETY EQUIPMENT IS.
FIRE EXTINGUISHERS, SMOKE, UH, DETECTORS, CARBON MONOXIDE DETECTORS WILL BE PART OF THAT.
PHOTOGRAPHS OF ALL ROOMS AND ALL THOSE IN, IN INTERNAL AREAS WHERE, UH, IF YOU'RE HAVING A SHORT TERM RENTAL THAT THE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE LIVING.
SO YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE THOSE PHOTOGRAPHS.
UH, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A MINIMUM OF A, UH, $1 MILLION LIABILITY INSURANCE POLICY PER OCCURRENCE, UH, CONTACT INFORMATION OF THE OWNER'S ASSOCIATION IF THERE'S AN ASSOCIATION THAT'S INVOLVED.
AND THEN ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA ASK IS A LIST OF ALL PLATFORMS, ALL METHODS IN WHICH YOU ADVERTISE.
SO WE WANT THAT IF THEY'RE ONLINE PLATFORMS, NOT ONLY THE, UH, THE NAME, BUT ALSO A LINK TO THAT ONLINE PLATFORM.
UH, WE WANT A COPY OF THE, THE RULES, THE HOST RULES, BECAUSE THAT, AS PART OF THIS ORDINANCE WILL BE POSTED AT THAT SHORT TERM RENTAL PROPERTY.
AND THEN FINALLY, UH, WE WILL COME UP WITH A, A WAY WHERE SHORT TERM RENTAL OWNERS CAN ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT, UH, WHAT THE, UH, ORDINANCES ARE, WHAT THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES ARE, AND WHAT THE PENALTIES ARE IF THEY FAIL TO ABIDE BY THE ORDINANCE.
UH, IN ADDITION, WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING THIS TRAINING COMPONENT AS PART OF THE, UH, REGISTRATION PRO, UH, REGISTRATION PROCESS.
AND THAT TRAINING COMPONENT IS GOING TO INCLUDE, UH, INFORMATION SUCH AS, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE, UH, WHAT, WHAT IS THE ORDINANCE REQUIRE OF SHORT-TERM RENTAL OWNERS? WHAT ARE THE NOISE REGULATIONS HERE IN PLANO? WHAT ARE THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THE CITY? UH, WHAT'S THE TRASH PICKUP PROCESS? SPEAKING OF, YOU KNOW, SO WE TALKED ABOUT BULK WASTE, BUT WHAT'S THE TRASH PICKUP, UH, PROCESS THAT WE HAVE.
ALSO INFORMATION ON HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND AWARENESS FOR SHORT-TERM RENTAL OWNERS.
AND THEN, UH, PROPERTY MAINTENANCE REQUIREMENTS, BECAUSE OF COURSE, WE CERTAINLY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT LIKE ALL OF OUR, UH, HOUSING STOCK, THAT THEY KEEP THEIR HOUSES LOOKING, LOOKING GOOD.
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA ASK IS, UH, AS YOU CONSIDER THIS ORDINANCE IS, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WOULD, UH, UH, PROPOSE TO HAVE A REBATE PROCESS.
SO, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT A $300 REGISTRATION FEE.
AND, AND POTENTIALLY IF YOU GO THROUGH THIS TRAINING PROGRAM THAT WE ARE, UH, THAT WE'RE GONNA BE OFFERING, THAT YOU GET SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 7,500 BUCKS BACK, UH, AS PART OF THAT.
SO, UH, DESIGNATED CONTACTS, KIND OF AS, AS WE TALKED ABOUT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, IS GONNA BE REQUIRED AND, AND THAT WE WANNA MAKE SURE IS IF WE HAVE A PROBLEM THAT WE CAN REACH OUT TO SOMEBODY AND THAT PERSON CAN RESPOND WITHIN A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.
HERE WE'VE GOT LISTED AN HOUR TO, UH, TO HOPEFULLY RESOLVE THAT PROBLEM.
AND SO THEY'VE GOTTA BE ACCESSIBLE BY TELEPHONE, UH, AGAIN, ABLE TO RESPOND WITH ONE HOUR, UH, HAVE THE, THE, THE ABILITY AND THE POWER TO, UH, ACT IF, UH, WE HAVE GUESTS THERE.
AND THEN FINALLY, WE INCLUDED A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE'D LIKE THE PERSON TO BE IN THE D IN THE DFW AREA.
WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THE ABILITY TO ENFORCE THAT SORT OF THING, BUT IF THEY CAN, AS LONG AS THEY ARE ABLE TO RESPOND WITHIN THAT TIMEFRAME, IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
UH, THE REGISTRATION, UH, PRO, UH, BASICALLY RENEWAL TERMS IS, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT AN INITIAL REGISTRATION, AND THEN IT WILL RENEW EVERY YEAR.
UH, UH, IT WOULD BE VALID UNLESS SOMETHING HAPPENS SUCH AS WE CHANGE OWNERSHIP OF THE HOUSE OR IF, UH, FOR SOME REASON IT WAS, UH, SUSPENDED OR REVOKED IN SOME FORM OR FASHION.
UH, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA ASK THAT, THAT BE UPDATED ANNUALLY.
UH, WE ALSO PROPOSE THAT, OF COURSE, AS PART OF THAT, THAT, OR THIS ORDINANCE WE HAVE IN THERE, THAT, UH, THEY PAY OCCUPANCY TAX AND THEY'RE SUBJECT TO AN AUDIT IF THERE'S A QUESTION.
UH, AND ALSO REQUIRE THAT, UH, OWNERS, UH, PERFORM A, AN ANNUAL SELF INSPECTION TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR PROPERTY STILL CONFORM TO THE REQUIREMENTS SET OUT.
IN THIS ORDINANCE, UH, ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS IS, IS GOING TO BE A, A PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MONITOR, UH, WHAT'S GOING ON.
AND SO THAT'S GONNA BE NOISE MONITORING.
AND THEN ALSO IT SAYS ELECTRONIC MONITORING, WHICH IS GONNA BE VIDEO MONITORING.
AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY CERTAINLY HAVE COMPANIES OUT THERE THAT, UH, SHORT-TERM RENTAL PROPERTY OWNERS CAN, CAN, UH, CAN, CAN PURCHASE.
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WHAT IT'LL DO IS IT WILL MEASURE THE DECIBEL LEVELS OR THE NOISE INSIDE AND OUTSIDE A, UH, A, UH, A PLACE.SO, UH, OWNERS WILL BE ABLE TO SET WHAT THE DISABLE LEVELS ARE.
IF THEY START BECOMING TOO, TOO HIGH, UH, THAT APP WILL THEN NOTIFY THE OWNER THAT, UH, THERE MIGHT BE A PROBLEM AT THAT SHORT TERM RENTAL.
AND THEN ALSO, THE ELECTRIC OUTDOOR ELECTRONIC MONITORING IS GONNA BE VIDEO MONITORING IN THOSE PLACES WHERE SOMEBODY DOES NOT HAVE A RIGHT TO PRIVACY.
UH, AND THEN THAT, THAT, THAT, UH, THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE ONLY FOR THAT OFFSITE MANAGEMENT, UH, FOR STR.
SO WE'RE NOT LOOKING, IF WE'VE GOT, UH, SOMEBODY WHO'S LIVING ON SITE, THEN YOU'RE NOT N YOU'RE NOT GONNA NEED THAT UNDER THIS ORDINANCE.
UH, ALSO REQUIRED TO DISPLAY OF THE REGISTRATION CERTIFICATE AND THE HOST RULES, SO PEOPLE KNOW HOW MANY GUESTS THEY CAN, UH, HAVE THERE AND, AND, UH, WHAT THE NOISE REQUIREMENTS ARE.
UH, THIS ORDINANCE ALSO PROPOSES TO PROHIBIT ADVERTISING, PROMOTING OR ALLOWING THE USE OF THAT PROPERTY AS AN ASSEMBLY HALL.
UH, AND THEN WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE, THE ADMINISTRATIVE SANCTIONS THAT GO ALONG WITH THIS, WE'VE GOT SOME DEFINITIONS.
AND SO DEFINITIONS ARE GOING TO FIRST OF ALL INCLUDE NUISANCE, UH, NUISANCE INCIDENT.
AND THIS IS GONNA BE ONE OF THOSE QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO BASICALLY IT'S GONNA BE AN INDI UH, AN INCIDENT INVOLVING CRIMINAL CONDUCT COMMITTED AT AN STR PROPERTY BY SOMEBODY WHO IS STAYING THERE.
AND THAT, UH, THAT CONDUCT TENDS TO SUBSTANTIALLY INTERFERE WITH THE USE OR ENJOYMENT OF PRIVATE OR PUBLIC PROPERTY BY CAUSING UNREASONABLE DISCOMFORT OR ANNOYANCE TO PERSONS OF ORDINARY SENSIBILITIES, ATTEMPTING TO USE AND ENJOY THEIR PROPERTY, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO CONDUCT INVOLVING ASSAULT, SEXUAL MISCONDUCT, PUBLIC ORDER INDECENCY, ALCOHOL, DRUGS, WEAPONS, NOISE, TRASH, AND PARKING.
SO THAT'S GONNA BE A NUISANCE INCIDENT.
AND ALONG WITH THAT DEFINITION, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE INCLUDED A PRESUMPTION IN THERE.
SO IF, UH, EITHER LAW ENFORCEMENT OR CODE ENFORCEMENT ENDS UP TAKING AN ENFORCEMENT ACTION, THERE IS A PRESUMPTION THAT, UH, THAT THAT WAS A NUISANCE, NUISANCE INCIDENT.
SO IF WE'RE LOOKING AT PROVING THAT AT A, A LATER TIME AND, UH, SOME SORT OF JUDICIAL PROCEEDING, THAT WOULD BE EASIER TO DO.
AND THEN IN ADDITION TO NUISANCE IN INCIDENT, WE HAVE A SERIOUS INCIDENT AND IS, UH, OF COURSE YOU CAN IMAGINE THAT'S GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT'S MORE SERIOUS.
SO AGAIN, CRIMINAL CONDUCT, UH, THAT'S COMMITTED AT AN STR BY SOMEBODY WHO IS STAYING AT THE STR.
UH, AND THAT SUBSTANTIALLY INTERFERES WITH THE USE OR ENJOYMENT OF PRIVATE OR PUBLIC PROPERTY, AND IS REASONABLY LIKELY TO INDUCE FEAR AND PERSONS OF ORDINARY SENSIBILITIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO CONDUCT INVOLVING CHILD ABUSE, SEXUAL OFFENSES, DISCHARGE OF A FIREARM, UH, AND OFFENSES CAUSING SERIOUS BODILY INJURY AND OR DEATH.
AND SO THE ADMINISTRATIVE PORTION OF THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, IS WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ABILITY TO DENY, SUSPEND, OR REVOKE SOMEBODY'S REGISTRATION, UH, IF THEY EITHER GOING TO BE APPLYING FOR IT OR IF THEY HAVE IT ALREADY.
SO, UH, FIRST OF ALL, UH, WE CAN, UH, DENY FOR THREE MONTHS A, AN APPLICATION IF, UH, SOMEBODY COMMITS SOME SORT OF ADMINISTRATIVE VIOLATIONS.
AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS KIND OF IN THIS PROCESS, IF THEY DO SOMETHING THAT IS NOT, UH, IS NOT LATER DISCUSSED IN HERE, UH, BUT VIOLATES THE ORDINANCE, THEN IT WOULD BE UP TO A THREE MONTH VIAL, UH, THREE MONTH SUSPENSION OR DENIAL.
UH, WE ALSO INCLUDE A THREE MONTH DENIAL OR SUSPENSION FOR, UH, THE SPECIFIC, UH, UH, SPECIFIC, UH, ACTIONS OF MAINTAINING OR FAILING TO, TO MAINTAIN OR PROVIDE INSURANCE, THAT $1 MILLION LIABILITY POLICY OR DESIGNATE AND ENSURE THE AVAILABILITY OF A CONTACT PERSON.
SO THAT'S GONNA BE UP TO A THREE MONTH SUSPENSION THERE.
UH, WE'RE GONNA INCREASE THAT PENALTY UP TO A SIX MONTHS, UH, DENIAL OR SUSPENSION IF IT RESULTS FROM THE OCCURRENCE OF A NUISANCE INCIDENT, THE QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE THAT WE DISCUSSED, UH, JUST A FEW MOMENTS AGO AT A, AT THE PREMISE OF A SHORT TERM RENTAL.
UH, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA INCREASE THAT UP TO A, A POTENTIAL ONE YEAR DENIAL OR SUSPENSION.
IF YOU HAVE A SITUATION WHERE YOU'VE GOT TWO OR MORE NUISANCE NUISANCE INCIDENTS WITHIN A 12 MONTH PERIOD, UH, OR ONE SERIOUS INCIDENT IN WHICH, UH, THE REGISTRANT WAS AWARE OF, BUT CONSCIOUSLY DISREGARDED A SUBSTANTIAL RISK OF THE SERIOUS INCIDENT OCCURRING.
SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE RECKLESS BEHAVIOR ON THE PART OF THAT SHORT TERM RENTAL OWNER OR OPERATOR.
UH, AND THEN FINALLY, WE ALSO HAVE A, A POTENTIAL ONE YEAR, UH, DENIAL OR SUSPENSION IF THE STR WAS OPERATED, ADVERTISED, OR PROMOTED, AND THEY DID NOT HAVE A VALID REGISTRATION, UH, REGISTRATION CAN BE MAYBE PERMANENTLY DENIED OR REVOKED IF IT CANNOT BE LEGALLY USED AS A SHORT-TERM RENTAL.
SO IF THERE'S A ZONING ISSUE, OR LET'S SAY THE HOA ENDS UP, UH, UH, CHANGING THEIR BYLAWS AND PROHIBITING SHORT-TERM RENTALS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD ALLOW
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US TO REVOKE THAT PERMANENTLY.SO SINCE WE HAVE AN ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS IN PLACE, WE ALSO HAVE DUE PROCESS.
SO IF SOMEBODY, IF, IF, UH, SOMEBODY GETS A NOTICE THAT WE ARE GOING TO SUSPEND OR REVOKE, UH, OR, UH, UH, DENY THEIR, UH, SHORT-TERM RENTAL, RENTAL REGISTRATION APPLICATION, UH, THEN THEY CAN, UH, APPEAL THAT.
SO IF IT'S AN APPEAL, UH, BASED UPON THE A ZONING ISSUE, THE ZONING ORDINANCE HAS A PROCESS IN PLACE.
AND SO THEY WILL USE THAT ZONING ORDINANCE PROCESS FOR, UH, THAT, UH, FOR THAT DENIAL SUSPENSION.
ALL OF THEIR APPEALS WILL BASICALLY BE SUBMITTED TO THE DEPARTMENT, UH, THE DIRECTOR OF NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, OR WHICHEVER DIRECTOR, UH, THE CITY MANAGER DESIGNATES FOR THAT PURPOSE, UH, WHO WILL CONDUCT A HEARING, UH, BASED ON EVIDENCE PRESENTED.
THE DIRECTORS THEN SHALL SUSTAIN, MODIFY, OR RES RESCIND THAT INITIAL DETERMINATION.
UM, AND THE APPLICANT CAN THEN, UH, UH, APPEAL THAT UP TO THE CITY MANAGER AND OR, AND HIS OR HER DESIGNEE.
AND THEN THAT DETERMINATION BY THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE WILL BE FINAL.
IN ADDITION TO THIS ADMINISTRATIVE FRAMEWORK THAT I'VE JUST DISCUSSED, WE ALSO HAVE A, UH, A CRIMINAL OFFENSE.
SO IT WILL BE A, A CLASS C MISDEMEANOR, UH, WITH A, UH, WITH A FINE, UH, NOT TO EXCEED UP TO $500.
AND SO BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS, UH, IN ADDITION TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE SANCTIONS THAT, UH, MAY BE IMPOSED, YOU COULD HAVE CRIMINAL SANCTIONS FOR VIOLATING THE TERMS OF THIS ORDINANCE.
AND THERE'S A REQUIREMENT FOR THE HOSTING PLATFORM.
SO WHETHER IT'S VRBO OR AIRBNB, ONE OF THOSE PLACES, UH, THEY SHALL PROVIDE A NOTICE TO A PERSON LISTING ON THE STR IS BASICALLY A SHORT TERM RENTAL.
UH, WE HAVE A CODE OF ORDINANCES HERE, AND IT WOULD BE ILLEGAL TO OPERATE ONE WITHIN THE CITY OF PLANO UNLESS YOU ARE REGISTERED.
AND WITH THAT, I WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ON THIS PROPOSAL.
YOU WANNA HEAR THE SPEAKERS FIRST? OH, I THINK THIS IS JUST A QUESTION, REALLY.
REAL QUICK, WHEN WE SAID THE CONTACT MUST BE ABLE TO RESPOND WITHIN AN HOUR, CAN YOU DEFINE WHAT RESPOND MEANS? UH, AND, AND THAT IS NOT DEFINED IN HERE, BUT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS WE'RE LOOKING AT A REASONABLE RESPONSE.
SO IF, UH, THEY CAN TAKE CARE OF THE PROBLEM WITHIN AN HOUR, HOWEVER THEY DO IT, THEN THAT WOULD BE A RESPONSE.
SO, UH, IF THEY CAN MAKE A PHONE CALL IF THEY NEED TO A, A APPEAR IN PERSON, HOWEVER THEY NEED TO DO IT.
SECOND QUESTION WAS REALLY NEED CLARIFICATION ON SECTION SIX POINT OR DASH 7 3 5 ON REGISTRATION.
IF STR HAS MULTIPLE ROOMS, THEY MOST REGISTER, IN OTHER WORDS, INSTEAD OF RENTING A WHOLE HOUSE TO AN INDIVIDUAL FAMILY, THEY HAVE THREE ROOMS AND THEY RENTED OUT THREE INDIVIDUALS.
RIGHT? DO THEY HAVE TO REGISTER THREE SEPARATE TIMES? NO, IT WOULD SAY THAT WOULD BE ONE PROPERTY.
SO THE, THE MULTIPLE REGISTRATION WOULD BE, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU HAVE AN APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT, THAT HAD SEVERAL APARTMENTS IN THERE THAT THEY, THAT THAT COMPLEX WAS USING, THAT WOULD REQUIRE THREE SEPARATE REGISTRATIONS.
IF IT'S ONE SINGLE PARCEL OF PROPERTY, UH, THEN IT WOULD JUST BE ONE REGISTRATION.
I, I, ALL OF THESE ARE, UH, ENFORCEMENT ISSUES, UH, QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE.
SO ON THE LOCAL CONTACTS AND REP THAT, UM, RICK JUST ASKED ABOUT, AND THERE, THERE'S A REQUIREMENT FOR A ONE HOUR WINDOW WHERE THEY HAVE TO CONTACT WHAT IS THE REMEDY IF THEY DON'T? WELL, SO AT THAT POINT, IF THEY DON'T, THEN, UH, WHAT WE CAN LOOK AT IS WE CAN LOOK AS, AS AN ADMINISTRATIVE, UH, VIOLATION PROCESSES IS TO REVOKE THEIR REGISTRATION OR, OR, UH, SUSPEND THEIR REGISTRATION.
SO IF THEY DON'T RESPOND WITHIN ONE HOUR, THEN WE CONSIDER THAT TO BE A VIOLATION.
AND THEN THAT WOULD BE, THAT COULD BE A VIOLATION.
AND THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A, A, A SUSPENSION.
WE, WE WOULD GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
AND THE SECOND ONE, ALSO WITH REGARD TO THE DEFINITION OF NUISANCE AND SERIOUS INCIDENT.
SO, UM, I, I UNDERSTAND YOU DEFINE THOSE, BUT, UM, ALL THE DEFINITIONS IN THERE WITH REGARD TO THE ABUSE.
ARE YOU, ARE YOU USING THE DEFINITIONS FROM THE PENAL CODE IN ORDER TO DEFINE THOSE VIOLATION VIOLATIONS? DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING? WITH, WITH, WITHIN OUR ADMINISTRATIVE REMEDIES AND WITHIN OUR, OUR, OUR CRIMINAL REMEDIES, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE IS GOING TO BE, GENERALLY IT'S GONNA BE, UM, A LOT OF THOSE ARE GONNA BE VERY BROAD, RIGHT.
RIGHT? SO THEY'RE BROAD ENOUGH TO INCORPORATE WHAT WOULD BE A SEXUAL OFFENSE.
AND WHEN WE, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THAT, IT IS A CRIMINAL CON, IT'S CRIMINAL CONDUCT.
SO IT'S GONNA BE BASED UPON THE PENAL CODE DEFINITIONS OF, OF THOSE THINGS.
IS THAT SOMEWHERE SAID THAT WE'RE GONNA BE DEFINING THESE ABUSES OR OFFENSES BASED ON THE TEXAS PENAL CODE OR O OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT IT REFERENCES, REFERENCES CRIMINAL CONDUCT IN THE DEFINITION.
THAT'S THE REFERENCE TO CRIMINAL CONDUCT IN THE, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY COMMONLY, UH, SAY WITHIN THE STATE OF TEXAS.
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ALL RIGHT.AND THEN THE CLASS C VIOLATION, I'M SORRY, UH, I, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T QUITE CATCH THE CLASS C VIOLATION.
IS IT FOR ANY TYPE OF VIOLATION, LET'S SAY YOU DIDN'T CONTACT BACK IN AN HOUR, IS THAT CONSIDERED A CLASS C VIOLATION? SO A LOT OF THE, UH, REQUIREMENTS IN HERE, THEY ARE LISTED IN THAT, IN THAT PORTION OF THE ORDINANCE WHERE IT'S SPECIFICALLY SET, WILL, WILL POINT THOSE OUT.
AND SO WHETHER OR NOT THE, THE CONTACT OF NOW, I'D HAVE TO CHECK AND SEE IF THAT'S ONE OF THEM.
BUT A LOT OF THE PROVISIONS THAT WE HAVE, UH, THROUGHOUT THE ORDINANCE YEAH.
ARE SPECIFICALLY, UH, LAID OUT IN THAT CLASS C PORTION.
IT'S FAILED TO DESIGNATE A CONTACT, UH, CONTACT IS REQUIRED, UH, FAIL TO ENSURE THE DESIGNATED CONTACT IS AVAILABLE AND AUTHORIZED TO ACT.
SO IN COMPLIANCE WITH THIS ARTICLE, IT IS, COULD BE, THAT COULD BE A, UH, A CRIMINAL VIOLATION UNDER THE OFFENSE.
I FOLLOWING UP ON, UH, WHAT, UH, UH, DEPUTY MAYOR, UH, HAD ASKED YOU WE'RE, WE'RE USING, UH, UNDER THE POTENTIAL CRIMINAL OFFENSE, MAYBE RATHER THAN WILL BE, IS, IS THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE ADMINISTRATIVE DISCRETION WHETHER WE WOULD PURSUE THE CLASS C OR IS IT SOME OTHER REASON? C CERTAINLY ALONG WITH ANY SORT OF ENFORCEMENT, THERE'S GONNA BE DISCRETION INVOLVED.
AND SO, UH, SO WE, WE USE LANGUAGE LIKE MAY THAT GIVES THE ENFORCEMENT, UH, PERSONNEL THE ABILITY TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION.
UH, 'CAUSE WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO, UH, MAKE IT A, A A MUST BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GONNA BE ALL SORTS OF SITUATIONS THAT OCCUR, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU MAY NOT, YOU NOT, MAY NOT WANT TO TAKE ENFORCEMENT ACTION, RIGHT? RIGHT.
SO, SO THAT WE, WE, YOU KNOW, WE ALLOW THE, WE ALLOW EITHER OUR, OUR POLICE OR OUR NEIGHBORS SERVICES PERSONNEL WHO DO THE ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITIES HERE IN THE CITY OF PLANO, THAT DISCRETION TOO.
BUT, BUT IT, IT IS IN THERE TO I GUESS, PREVENT, UH, FOLKS FROM CONTINUALLY HAVING THE SAME OFFENSES OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
THAT THEN WE DO HAVE THIS, AND THEY, THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WILL BE FINANCIAL AND CLASS C MISDEMEANOR CONSEQUENCES LIKE ANYTHING ELSE, IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY WHO IS IRRESPONSIBLE IN THE WAY THEY DO SOMETHING, RIGHT? AND, AND MAYBE THEY'VE GOTTEN A WARNING, UH, MAYBE THEY'VE GOTTEN, UH, A, A COUPLE, THERE'S GONNA BE A POINT OF TIME WHERE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT THIS ENFORCEMENT, UH, FRAMEWORK IN PLACE AND THAT CAN CERTAINLY HAPPEN.
SO, AND, AND I DO WANNA POINT OUT THIS IS THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY THE ONLY TOOL.
THIS IS ONE TOOL AND EQUIVALENT OF ARROWS THAT WE HAVE.
WE CERTAINLY CAN USE OTHER, UH, ENFORCEMENT MECHANISMS OR OTHER, UH, WAYS OF, OF, UH, MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE COMPLY WITH THE LAW AND, UH, AND, AND ARE, ARE GOOD NEIGHBORS.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, AND LIKE STUFF THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING ALREADY, THIS WILL GIVE US AN ADDITIONAL TOOL, TOOL FOR THAT.
THANK YOU MAYOR, AND THANK YOU CURTIS FOR THAT GREAT PRESENTATION.
UM, I JUST HAVE A, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
FIRST ON SECTION SIX DASH 7 42, I NOTICED IN THE MEMO THAT THE, UH, THE, UH, BULLET POINT FROM THE STR TASK FORCE, TO WHICH THIS SECTION I THINK IS KIND OF RESPONDING MENTIONED CAMERAS, RIGHT? AND THIS SECTION ONLY TALKS ABOUT ELECTRONIC MONITORING AND NOISE MONITORING IN THE OUTDOOR AREA.
UM, I WAS JUST CURIOUS, UH, WHY NOT CAMERAS, UH, ESPECIALLY SINCE THAT WAS PART OF WHAT THE STR TASK FORCE APPEARS TO HAVE DISCUSSED, AND, YOU KNOW, BEING ON CAMERA WOULD DETER A LEGAL BEHAVIOR.
WE'VE HAD REPORTS OF ILLEGAL DRUG USE IN FRONT YARDS, NUDITY, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, RIGHT? AND, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD IMAGINE, YOU KNOW, A CONSPICUOUS CAMERA MIGHT DETER SOME OF THAT BEHAVIOR.
SO I JUST WANTED TO GET SOME, UH, I GUESS BACKGROUND ON THE THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND THAT CAMERA BACK ON, ON, AND THE WAY I READ THE ORDINANCE IS EVEN THOUGH IT DOESN'T SAY VIDEO, UH, NOISE IS GONNA BE THE, WHAT I KIND OF DISCUSSED.
WHICH, UH, ONE OF THOSE, ONE OF THOSE COMPANIES THAT, THAT HAS THAT SORT OF THING THAT MONITORS DECIBEL LEVELS MM-HMM.
UH, YOU KNOW, AND IT MIGHT, IT MIGHT BE THAT WE COULD WORD THAT BETTER, BECAUSE THAT, I UNDERSTAND THAT'S WHAT THE, UH, SHORT TERM THE TASK FORCE SAID.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT, UH, WE GOTTA TREAD LIGHTLY AROUND.
AND THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING I, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE CLARIFIED JUST BECAUSE IT READ TO ME LIKE THAT COULD BE SATISFIED BY ELECTRONIC MONITORING OF AUDIO ONLY.
AND I THINK VIDEO MONITORING WOULD BE IMPORTANT BECAUSE SOMEBODY COULD BE, YOU KNOW, QUIETLY BREAKING THE LAW IN THE FRONT YARD AND, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK WE WOULD WANT VIDEO OF THAT, THAT AS WELL.
UH, AND, UH, THEN SECTION, UH, SIX DASH 7 45, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THE TOPIC OF A LOT OF DISCUSSION ALREADY, THE SUSPENSION DENIAL REVOCATION
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PROCEDURE.UM, I THINK THIS IS WELL THOUGHT OUT, BUT ONE QUESTION I HAD ABOUT THAT RELATED TO, UH, THE MORE SERIOUS OF THE SERIOUS INCIDENTS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE HAD, UH, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST ONE INSTANCE WHERE THERE WAS A PROSTITUTION RING BEING RUN OUT OF AN STR.
AND ANOTHER INSTANCE THAT WE'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HERE AT, AT THESE MEETINGS, UH, WHERE THERE WAS VERY DANGEROUS GUNFIRE THAT ENTERED A CHILD'S BEDROOM.
AND ONE YEAR, UH, YOU KNOW, SUSPENSION SEEMS LIGHT FOR THAT.
I, I, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE FOR SOMETHING THAT SERIOUS THAT IT'S A PERMANENT REVOCATION, BUT IF THAT'S NOT WORKABLE, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST, LEAST 10 YEARS OR 20 YEARS OR SOMETHING LIKE, I MEAN, 'CAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S VERY SERIOUS, YOU KNOW, DANGEROUS CONDUCT.
AND, AND I, AND I THINK THAT, UH, IT JUST KIND OF, AS I REFERRED TO BEFORE IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS PROCESS, THIS, THIS, THIS IS PROBABLY EITHER THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS OR THE, UH, THE CRIMINAL SANCTIONS, THIS IS GONNA BE ONE TOOL.
SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE GOT SOMEBODY WHO'S ENGAGED IN CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR, SO IF IT IS, LET'S SAY PROSTITUTION, UH, I MEAN, FIRST OF ALL, YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
'CAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S SEVERAL ENTITIES HERE, RIGHT? YOU'VE GOT THE PROPERTY OWNER POTENTIALLY, WHICH COULD BE A PERSON, COULD BE A, A, A CORPORATION.
UH, YOU HAVE POTENTIALLY THE, THE PROPERTY MANAGER.
UH, AND THEN YOU'VE ALSO GOT THOSE THAT ARE VISITING THE SHORT TERM MAIL.
SO WHO ARE WE HOLDING RESPONSIBLE? SO, MM-HMM.
IF SOMEBODY COMMITS AN ACT, I MEAN, IF THEY'RE ENGAGED IN PROSTITUTION, CERTAINLY YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA BE ABLE TO GO AFTER THOSE PEOPLE UNDER OUR NORMAL PENAL CODE VIOLATIONS.
SO, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, WHATEVER THAT'S GONNA CONSIST OF NOW HOLDING OTHER PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE, IF YOU HAVE A, UH, A SHORT TERM RENTAL OWNER THAT LET'S SAY, UH, IS, IS RUNNING THAT SORT OF OPERATION OUT OF A SHORT TERM RENTAL AND HE'S INVOLVED, OR SHE'S INVOLVED IN THE CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY, YOU KNOW, I MEAN OUR, OUR CRIMINAL VIOLATION OR, YOU KNOW, WE CAN CERTAINLY GO THROUGH THE, THE, THE, THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS AND REVOKE OR, OR SUSPEND THEIR, UH, THEIR, UH, SHORT-TERM RENTAL REGISTRATION.
THEY MAY HAVE OTHER FISH TO FRY ALSO THAT, UH, THAT CAN, CAN BE USED.
AGAIN, SO, AND, AND, AND THAT MAKES SENSE.
I STILL, WELL, AND I GUESS THIS IS FOR A LATER DISCUSSION, BUT I'D, I'D LOVE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERATION GIVEN TO, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR REALLY SERIOUS INCIDENTS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A, AN EVEN LONGER REVOCATION OR, OR PERHAPS EVEN PERMANENT.
THANK YOU FOR THE WELL THOUGHT OUT ORDINANCE CURTIS.
OH, COUNCIL MEMBER, JUST A QUICK FOLLOW ON TO, UH, COUNCILMAN RICKY DE'S QUESTION.
SO IN CASES WHERE THERE'S, UM, ACTUAL ONGOING CRIMINAL ACTIVITY OR CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY, CERTAINLY, UM, THAT WOULD BE DEALT WITH, UH, AS SUCH, UM, SEVERAL YEARS AGO WE HAD, UH, A YOUNG MAN WHO WAS MURDERED AT AN STR THAT WAS JUST PART OF A PARTY.
SO I INFERRED AT LEAST THAT COUNCILMAN RICK ELLI WAS ASKING ABOUT SERIOUS INCIDENTS, WHICH MAY NOT, UM, INDICATE THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER WAS COMPLICIT IN THAT IT WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED BY VIRTUE OF OPERATING AN STR.
UM, BUT THAT SOMETHING, AN INCIDENT LIKE THAT MIGHT LEAD TO, UH, A LONGER TERM, UH, SUSPENSION OR REVOCATION.
SO WE HAVE, UM, 27 SPEAKERS AND WHAT, WHAT I'D LIKE FOR ALL OF YOU TO, TO DO TONIGHT, WE'RE REALLY FOCUSING ON THE REGISTRATION ORDINANCE OVERVIEW, AND I'D LIKE YOU TO GIVE US A YES OR A NO AND WHY YOU'RE EITHER FOR IT OR NOT FOR IT.
THAT WOULD HELP US A WHOLE LOT.
WE'RE ALSO, UM, GOING TO ASK YOU TO SPEAK FOR A MINUTE AND A HALF.
UM, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET ALL OF YOU IN BEFORE WE HAVE TO STOP AND START OUR REGULAR MEETING BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE ABOUT 15 MINUTES BEFORE WE HAVE TO START THE REGULAR MEETING.
AND THEN WE'LL CONTINUE WITH THE SPEAKERS ONCE WE FINISH THE OPENING OF THE REGULAR MEETING.
SO IF THAT'S EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT WHAT WE'D REALLY LIKE FOR, FOR YOU TO GIVE US YOUR APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL OF THIS REGISTRATION OVERVIEW AND WHY, SO LISA? OKAY.
THE FIRST SPEAKER WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ON ZOOM, BUT I WILL CALL THEIR NAME JUST IN CASE THEY'RE HERE.
THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO BILL FRANCE, WHO WILL BE FOLLOWED BY MARLA KOS.
UH, WAS THIS THE BULKY WASTE? UH, I GET CONFUSED AS BULKY WASTE SOMETIMES.
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OF CITY COUNCIL, CITY STAFF.TONIGHT, I'M HERE ONCE AGAIN SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF MY NEIGHBORS IN THE PLANO, TEXAS NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION.
WE ARE HERE TO REAFFIRM OUR STRONG OPPOSITION TO THE PRESENCE AND PROLIFERATION OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
I STAND BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IN SUPPORT OF STRONG ENFORCEABLE LAWS THAT WILL PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY FROM THE BEHAVIOR WE HAVE WITNESSED AND CONTINUE TO ENDURE.
OUR COMMUNITY HAS FACED CHALLENGES STEMMING FROM UNREGULATED SHORT TERM RENTALS LEADING TO DISRUPTIVE AND SOMETIMES LAWLESS BEHAVIOR THAT THREATENS THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
WE CANNOT AFFORD TO TURN A BLIND EYE TO THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS OF UNCONTROLLED SHORT-TERM RENTALS ANY LONGER.
THE INCIDENTS OF NOR NOISE DISTURBANCES PROPERTY DAMAGE, AND EVEN CRIMINAL ACTIVITY HAVE REACHED UNACCEPTABLE LEVELS.
IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT WE TAKE ACTION TO PROTECT THE WELLBEING OF OUR RESIDENTS AND THE INTEGRITY OF OUR COMMUNITY.
MORE FUNDAMENTALLY, HOMES HOUSING, A REVOLVING DOOR OF STRANGERS DESTROY THE SENSE OF SAFETY, SECURITY, AND COMMUNITY THAT ARE THE HALLMARK OF SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE VERY REASONS HOMEOWNERS MADE WHAT IS OFTEN THE LARGEST INVESTMENT OF THEIR LIVES.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR HELP IN MAINTAINING THE FABRIC OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
I, GOOD EVENING MAYOR MOONS AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I'M MARLA KOS, A 40 YEAR RESIDENT OF PLANO, UM, AND A MEMBER OF TNC PLANO.
I OPPOSE ST IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT WE'LL ACCEPT THEM WITH A VERY STRONG, UM, REGISTRATION AND ORDINANCE.
UM, WE HAD HOPED TO REMOVE ALL ST FROM SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT IN THE SPIRIT OF COMPROMISE, THE TASK FORCE ENDORSED GRANDFATHERING, ALL EXISTING STR WHICH WE CAN ACCEPT ONLY IF THERE ARE TOOLS IN PLACE TO ADDRESS AND REMOVE THE BAD ACTORS.
UM, THE STR OWNERS ARE HERE TONIGHT, REPRESENT THE UPSIDE OF THIS SITUATION, THE GOOD ONES.
BUT NO MATTER WHAT THESE SUPPORTERS PROMISE AIRBNB ITSELF STATED IN THEIR IPO DOCUMENTS FILED WITH THE SEC, THAT THEY HAVE NO CONTROL OVER BAD ACTORS, I QUOTE FROM THEIR SEC FILING, WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THE ACTIONS OF OUR USERS AND OTHER THIRD PARTIES DURING THE GUESTS STAY.
AND THEREFORE, WE CANNOT GUARANTEE THE SAFETY OF OUR HOSTS, GUESTS, AND THIRD PARTIES.
THE ACTIONS OF HOSTS, GUESTS, AND THIRD PARTIES HAVE RESULTED IN FATALITIES, INJURIES, BODILY HARM, FRAUD, INVASION OF PRIVACY, PROPERTY DAMAGE.
WE DO NOT VERIFY THE IDENTITY OF OUR HOSTS AND GUESTS, NOR DO WE VERIFY OR SCREEN THIRD PARTIES WHO MAY BE PRESENT DURING A RESERVATION MADE THROUGH OUR PLATFORM.
SO WE'RE ON OUR OWN TO PROTECT THE PLAINTIFF'S CITIZENS FROM THE DANGERS THAT STR CREATE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
UM, WHILE PLANO MAY NOT BE A VACATION CITY, WE'RE CLEARLY A GEOGRAPHICAL STR TARGET FOR METRO AREA VACATIONERS BECAUSE WE HAVE A STRAIGHT SHOT TO DOWNTOWN DALLAS AND TO FRISCO AND TO DFW AIRPORT.
WE'VE NOT WORKED FOR TWO YEARS TO CRAFT A WEAK REGISTRATION ORDINANCE.
IF WE INTEND TO GRANDFATHER THE STR IN OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, RATHER THAN ELIMINATE THEM, PLEASE BE SURE YOU ALLOW US THE TOOLS TO KEEP OUR NEIGHBORHOODS SAFE.
THE NEXT SPEAKER IS STEVEN AKAS, FOLLOWED BY REBECCA BCCA.
MY NAME IS STEVEN KOS AND I'M A 21 YEAR RESIDENT OF PLANO.
UH, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, UH, FOR THE SHORT TERM RENTAL REGISTRATION ORDINANCE, YES, BUT WITH SOME CAVEATS THAT I'LL POINT OUT.
UH, I'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE IMPORTANCE OF THE LEGALITY AND ENFORCEABILITY OF THE SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE IN THE REGISTRATION DOCUMENTS.
I BELIEVE THIS IS IMPORTANT, AS MY WIFE JUST POINTED OUT EARLIER, AIRBNB IS NOT TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE LIABILITY OF THEIR USERS OR OTHER PARTIES, NO PUN INTENDED.
UH, LAST SUMMER, THE TEXAS STATE LEGISLATURE SHOWED A HUGE, HUGE INTEREST IN DOING YOUR JOB.
UH, HOUSE BILLS 26 65 AND 2367 ARE PRIME EXAMPLES CONCERNING THE REGULATION OF RESIDENTIAL AMENITIES AND RENTALS STR BY THE STATE.
SO STRONG LOCAL LEADERSHIP AND ENFORCEABLE, UM, ORDINANCES WERE EFFECTIVE IN DETERRING THESE BILLS LAST SUMMER IN AUSTIN.
FINALLY, MANY CITIES HAVE GONE BEFORE US.
UH, THEY'VE PUT OUT, UH, THEIR ORDINANCES AND THEY, THEY HAVE FAILED TO PASS THE SNF TEST IN THE LEGAL SCRUTINY OF THESE ORDINANCES.
SO WE'VE, WE'VE SEEN OTHERS FAIL WHERE WE NEED TO PREVAIL.
SO WHAT DID WE DO? WELL, THE BEST DEFENSE, THE, THE BEST DEFENSE IS A GOOD OFFENSE, RIGHT? UM, ONE IN PARTICULAR DEFINITIONS IN BOTH THE ORDINANCE AND THE REGISTRATION.
ONE ROOM, BEDROOM, ONE ROOM COULD BE THE LIVING ROOM AND THE SURROUNDING ROOMS ARE FREE.
SO IN EFFECT, THE REGISTRATION WOULD SAY A ONE ROOM BED AND BREAKFAST IS JUST FINE.
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REALLY NEED TO GET DOWN TO THE DIRTY DETAILS OF WHAT DO THESE DEFINITIONS MEAN, MEAN, AND HOW ARE THEY APPLIED LEGALLY? SO, UM, AS FAR AS THAT IS CONCERNED, ALSO WE HAVE DIFFERENT DEFINITIONS ALSO COMPLICATING ENFORCEMENT AND REGISTRATION ONE, ROOM B, B TWO TO FIVE, ROOM B, B, VACATION RENTALS, AND ALSO SEASONAL RENTALS.STEVEN? YES, WE GOTTA WRAP IT UP.
OH, I THOUGHT THAT WAS MY 10 SECONDS.
MY NAME IS REBECCA AND I OWN A HOME IN EAST PLANO.
IT'S MY LEGAL HOMESTEAD AND I RENT OUT A BACKYARD COTTAGE.
UH, I AM IN FAVOR OF SHORT-TERM RENTAL REGULATIONS.
I AM A RESPONSIBLE HOST, BUT TODAY I WANTED TO SPEAK ABOUT SECTION SIX DASH 7 36, THE DESIGNATED CONTACT, AND THE ONE HOUR RESPONSE TIME.
UM, SO MY CONCERN IS THREE PART, MY FIRST PART IS THE ONE HOUR RESPONSE.
I FEEL THAT THIS ONE HOUR RESPONSE ASSUMES THAT WE DON'T HAVE DAY JOBS, THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO COVER A STAFF FOR 24 7, BUT IT'S REALLY JUST ME AND MY HUSBAND WHO BOTH WORK FULL TIME.
SO, UM, I ASKED FOR A LITTLE BIT OF LEEWAY ON THAT RESPONSE TIME.
I DID WANNA MENTION I HAVE AN INVESTMENT HOME IN SAN ANTONIO THAT I WENT THROUGH THE SHORT TERM RENTAL PROCESS WITH.
UM, THEY DO ALSO HAVE SIMILAR REGULATIONS, BUT THEY ONLY SPECIFY EIGHT TO FIVE FOR A DESIGNATED CONTACT, AND THERE'S NO LANGUAGE FOR THE ONE HOUR RESPONSE.
MY SECOND CONCERN IS THAT THIS, UH, THIS PARTICULAR SECTION DOESN'T DESIGNATE WHO I NEED TO ANSWER A CALL FROM, SO I DON'T KNOW WHO'S GONNA BE CALLING ME.
UH, THE REASON WHY THIS IS IMPORTANT IS BECAUSE IF I KNOW WHO'S GONNA CALL, I'LL SAVE THE CONTACT.
EVEN WHEN MY PHONE IS ON DO NOT DISTURB, YOUR CALL WILL COME THROUGH.
SO THAT WOULD JUST MAKE IT EASY FOR ME TO COMPLY WITH YOUR REQUIREMENT.
UH, THE THIRD CONCERN IS THAT CONSEQUENCES FOR NOT RESPONDING.
I FEEL LIKE THIS IS JUST A ADMINISTRATIVE OVERSIGHT, BUT THE CONSEQUENCE WOULD BE, UH, PERMIT GETS REVOKED FOR THREE MONTHS.
AND SO I FEEL THAT WOULD BE PUNITIVE AND NOT CORRECTIVE.
UH, SO MY, I ASK THAT YOU PLEASE RECONSIDER, UH, THE CONSEQUENCES FOR THE OFFENSE FOR IT TO MATCH ACCORDINGLY.
THE NEXT SPEAKER IS MARK ASHER, FOLLOWED BY CINDY PATILLO.
GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
I LIVE AT 42 37 MCAL DRIVE, PLANO 7 5 0 9 3.
AND I'M A 14 YEAR RESIDENT OF PLANO.
I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO LISTEN TO THE CONCERNS RAISED HERE REGARDING SHORT-TERM RENTAL REGULATIONS.
TO ADDRESS THE QUESTION YOU RAISED, I'M IN FAVOR OF SHORT-TERM RENTAL REGULATIONS, BUT NOT IN ITS CURRENT PROPOSED FORM.
ON THE SURFACE, THE PROPOSED REGULATIONS MAY APPEAR REASONABLE.
WITHOUT PROPER CONSIDERATION OF EACH ITEM, WE'LL FIND OURSELVES VICTIMS TO THE LAW OF UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.
A SPECIFIC EXAMPLE I WISH TO HIGHLIGHT IS IN SECTION SIX DASH 7 43, 6 DASH 7 43 STATES.
EACH STR SHALL PROVIDE IN A CONSPICUOUS PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE AREA.
INSIDE THE FRONT ENTRANCE OF THE STR IS THEN FOLLOWED BY THE SPECIFIC VARIOUS ITEMS, INCLUDING REGISTRATION, CERTIFICATE, CONTACT INFORMATION, LOCAL AND STATE REGULATIONS AND HOST RULES.
WHAT IS NOT CLEARLY ARTICULATED HERE IS WHETHER THE INTENT OF THIS SECTION IS TO HAVE THE INFORMATION CLEARLY VISITED VISIBLE TO THE RENTER, OR TO ANYONE PASSING BY THE PROPERTY.
THE CONCERN IS THAT IF THE INTENT IS THE FORMER, THERE SHOULD BE WORDING TO EXPLICITLY STATE THAT THIS NOTIFICATION IS NOT REQUIRED TO BE VISIBLE FROM OUTSIDE THE PREMISES.
NOR SHOULD PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE MEAN THAT JUST ANYONE IE AND NON RENTER SHOULD HAVE ACCESS TO GO INSIDE THE PREMISES TO VIEW THE NOTIFICATIONS.
WORSE, IF THE INTENT IS THE LATTER THAN THIS WILL MAKE IT IMMEDIATELY APPARENT TO ANYONE LOOKING TO ROB THE PREMISES THAT IT MAY BE UNOCCUPIED AT VARIOUS TIMES, MAKING IT A GREATER TARGET FOR THEFT.
THIS WILL BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE GENERAL SAFETY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AS WELL AS POSE A SPECIFIC RISK TO THE STR OWNER.
THE QUESTION I POSES TO THE COUNCIL IS WHETHER THERE CAN BE A CLARIFICATION ON WHAT THE INTENT IS OF THE SECTION AND WORD IT IN SUCH A WAY TO REMOVE ANY AMBIGUITY REGARDING WHERE THE NOTICE TO BE VISIBLE FROM US.
ENSURE WE'RE NOT PAINTING TARGETS ON OUR SHORT-TERM RENTAL PROPERTIES.
CINDY PATILLO, FOLLOWED BY MARK PULLUM AND GREG PATILLO.
I'LL TRY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION AS BEST I CAN.
AS YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN HERE FOR TWO YEARS TALKING ABOUT SHORT-TERM RENTALS, AND I STILL WANT WHAT I'VE WANTED ALL ALONG, WHICH IS TO HAVE NO SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
IT APPEARS LIKELY THAT THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AND THAT WHAT WILL HAPPEN POTENTIALLY WILL BE NO NEW SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
WHAT THAT MEANS IS, IRONICALLY, AFTER FIGHTING SO HARD ABOUT THIS FOR TWO YEARS BECAUSE OF THE PARTY HOUSE BEHIND MINE, I WILL LIKELY END UP WITH THAT SAME GRANDFATHERED IN AND ENSHRINED AS A SHORT-TERM RENTAL THAT I WILL THEN GET TO LIVE WITH UNTIL I CHOOSE TO MOVE OUT OF THAT HOUSE.
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A RESULT, I'M STILL ADVOCATING FOR THAT.I STILL WANT THIS, THIS, UM, PROHIBITION TO BE PUT INTO PLACE, BUT I'M POINTING OUT THAT THE IMPORTANCE OF THE STRENGTH OF THE REGULATIONS AND THE REGISTRATION REQUIREMENTS IS WHAT WILL MAKE THAT TOLERABLE, TOLERABLE FOR ALL OF US WHO, IF GRANDFATHERING HAPPENS, WILL END UP WITH THE EXACT HOUSE WE WERE TRYING TO GET RID OF, BEING GRANDFATHERED IN.
LIKEWISE, 20 SECONDS IN AREAS WHERE THERE ARE NEW SHORT TERM RENTALS.
THOSE FOLKS DESERVE GOOD, STRONG PROTECTIONS AS WELL.
YOU'VE HEARD IT FROM BOTH SIDES.
WE WANNA ELIMINATE THE BAD ACTORS AND WE NEED STRONG REGULATION TO DO THAT.
I LIVE AT 24 0 8 LONDON DRIVE HERE IN PLANO.
UH, WE LIVE IN A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT DOES NOT HAVE AN HOA.
UH, TO SUMMARIZE QUICKLY, I'M IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSED REGISTRATION.
I WAS A MEMBER OF THE TASK FORCE, AND, UH, YOU'VE BEEN REPRESENTED WITH THE WORK PRODUCT FROM THE TASK FORCE.
IT WAS A LOT OF YELLING AND GOING BACK AND FORTH AND A LOT OF THINGS NOT UNANIMOUS.
SUPER MAJORITY BASICALLY AGREED WITH THREE THINGS THERE.
I KNOW THERE WERE FOUR ON CURTIS'S SUMMARY, BUT REGISTRATION LIMITING NEW, UH, RENTALS TO THE COMMERCIAL AREAS, A ZONING MATTER WHICH WILL COME UP LATER AND GIVING THE CITY THE TOOLS TO REMOVE BAD ACTORS.
SO, UM, AND THESE WERE ALL REPORTED AT THE VARIOUS, UH, PUBLIC HEARINGS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
SO MOST OF THE PROPOSED TERMS, UH, IN THE ORDINANCE, UH, REFLECT THE, THE PUBLIC STATED INTEREST IN REGISTERING THE CURRENT GRANDFATHERED UNITS AND TO IMPOSE REASONABLE STANDARDS AND RULES OF CONDUCT FOR THOSE STR OWNERS AND OPERATORS.
THE REGISTRATION ORDINANCE PROVIDES A PROCESS FOR HANDLING AND THE TREATMENT OF BAD ACTORS.
I URGE THE COUNCIL TO PROCEED WITH DUE DILIGENCE AND DEBATE ON THE PROPOSED REGULATIONS.
AND APPROVE THE PROPOSED REGISTRATION ORDERS FOR A PUBLIC HEARING IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.
UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, LISA.
WE'LL, AFTER MR. PATILLO SPEAKS WE'LL, WE'LL PAUSE THAT AND COME BACK TO THAT AFTER OUR OPENING.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
I'VE BEEN A PLANO RESIDENT FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS.
I BELIEVE THE CITY'S, UH, SHORT-TERM RENTAL REGISTRATION AND REGULATION ORDINANCE SHOULD MEET THE FOLLOWING OBJECTIVES, PROVIDE GUESTS VISITING THE CITY WITH THE SAME PROTECTION THAT THEY WOULD HAVE IF THEY WERE TO USE A HOTEL FOR LODGING ADEQUATELY COMPENSATE THE CITY FOR THE COST TO ADMINISTER REGISTRATION AND ENFORCE REGULATORY COMPLIANCE OF SHORT TERM RENTAL BUSINESSES AND ENSURE ALL APPROPRIATE TAXES ARE PAID.
PROVIDE THE CITY WITH THE INFORMATION NECESSARY TO EFFECTIVELY IDENTIFY AND REDRESS NONCOMPLIANT BUSINESSES.
PROTECT NEIGHBORS FROM THE ENCROACHMENT OF TRANSIENT LODGING BUSINESSES PROVIDE NEIGHBORS WITH AN AVENUE FOR QUICK AND EFFECTIVE RESOLUTION TO INSTANCES WHERE NON-COMPLIANT BUSINESSES ARE IMPACTING THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE AND OFFER NEIGHBORS A LONG-TERM RELIEF FROM PERSISTENTLY NON-COMPLIANT BUSINESSES.
DOES IT MEET THOSE OBJECTIVES? IS IT QUALIFIED? MOSTLY, YES.
UM, I POINTED OUT, UH, AND I WILL CONTINUE TO POINT OUT OTHER BY OTHER MEANS SOME OF THE ADDITIONS THAT I BELIEVE BELONG THERE, BUT THE EFFECTIVE OF THE PROTECTIONS FOR NEIGHBORHOOD PROPERTY OWNERS AND RESIDENTS WILL GREATLY DEPEND ON THE RESOURCES THE CITY COMMITS TO ENFORCING THE PROPOSED REGULATION.
BUT I DO BELIEVE THE ORDINANCE REPRESENTS A VIABLE FRAMEWORK.
PLANOS DECISION MAKERS RECOGNIZED IN APRIL, 2019 THAT IDENTIFYING WHERE SHORT-TERM RENTAL BUSINESSES WERE BEING OPERATED AND ENFORCING REGULATORY COMPLIANCE WOULD REQUIRE A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT OF CITY RESOURCES AND INSTEAD OPTED TO ENTER INTO A VOLUNTARY COLLECT TAX COLLECTION AGREEMENTS WITH TWO OF THE LARGEST HOSTING PLATFORMS. FIVE YEARS LATER, THE INVESTMENT OF CITY RESOURCE REQUIRED UNFORTUNATELY, HAS GROWN WITH THE NUMBER OF LISTINGS.
THE ONLY THING THAT HAS CHANGED IS THE RE REGULATORY DOCUMENT SERVING AS THE STARTING POINT.
WE'LL NOW TAKE A RECESS AND, AND START OUR REGULAR MEETING.
UH, WE WILL RETURN TO THE SPEAKERS AS SOON AS WE GET PAST THE OPENING AND, UH, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO CONTINUE WITH THE SPEAKERS.
I NOW DECLARED THE PLAINTIFF CITY.
PLAINTIFF CITY COUNCIL IS RECONVENED.
AND SO WE'LL GO BACK TO, UH, WHERE WE WERE ON THE PRELIMINARY OPEN MEETING.
SO LET'S, UH, LET'S GO BACK TO OUR SPEAKERS, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
THE FIRST ONE IN THIS GO ROUND IS STACY MATTHEWS, FOLLOWED BY ANTONIO MIGUEL MOLINO.
STACY MATTHEWS, UM, RESIDENT HERE SINCE 1981.
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STACY, I'M THANK YOU FOR, FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND EVERYONE ELSE HERE, UH, ABOUT TO SPEAK.SO I, I APOLOGIZE, BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
UM, WE DID JUST WANNA TOUCH A BASE, UM, ON A FEW POINTS IN TERMS OF THE REGULATIONS.
WE, IN FACT, I IN FACT AM, UM, CERTAINLY HAPPY TO REGISTER AS, UM, A RESPONSIBLE, UM, AIRBNB SUPERHOST.
WE DID JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
UM, IN GENERAL, UM, FROM SECTION 7 31 BOOKING SERVICE.
WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS AND A HOSTING PLATFORM? UM, THIS TERM IS NOT USED ANYWHERE IN THE CODE, EXCEPT IN THE DEFINITION OF HOSTING PLATFORM, UH, NOISE MONITORING DEVICE.
UM, THESE EXAMPLES OF THESE DEVICES WE BELIEVE SHOULD BE PROVIDED, UM, AS NOT ONLY DO THEY NEED TO COMPLY WITH PRIVACY LAWS, BUT THEY ALSO NEED TO COMPLY WITH HOSTING PLATFORM RULES.
THIS TERM IS VERY BROADLY DEFINED AND CAN INCLUDE OWNER AND ITS GUESTS.
CLOSE ATTENTION SHOULD BE GIVEN TO HOW THIS TERM IS USED THROUGHOUT THE CODE, UM, AND SHORT TERM RENTALS.
FOR PURPOSES, UM, THE TERM VACATION RENTAL SHOULD BE PLEASE CLEARLY, UH, DEFINED.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS WE ALSO WANTED TO, UM, SPEAK ABOUT WAS THE CRIMINAL CONDUCT DEFINITION IS EXTREMELY VAGUE.
UH, IT COVERS INCLUSION, A VIOLATION OF ANY, ANY ORDINANCE.
UM, THIS WOULD MEAN THAT A VIOLATION OF A VERY MINOR, UH, VIOLATION, LIKE ACCIDENTALLY PUTTING TRASH BINS IN THE WRONG PLACE FOR CONFUSION ABOUT BRINGING THE TRASH BIN BACK FROM THE CURB A FEW HOURS AS LATE IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A CRIMINAL OFFENSE.
UM, IT SEEMS UNREASONABLE AND FAIR THAT SIMPLY BECAUSE WE ARE RUNNING A SHORT TERM RENTAL, WE WOULD BE HELD TO A SUBSTANTIALLY DIFFERENT STANDARD THAN EVERY OTHER RESIDENT OF PLANO.
GOOD EVENING ESTEEM MEMBERS OF THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL.
THE ADDRESS IS 1207 DREXEL DRIVE.
I OPPOSE THE PROPOSED REGULATIONS AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS.
UM, SO I WANNA DELVE INTO THE FINANCIAL REALITIES.
OPERATING SHORT TERM RENTALS IN PLANO POSES CHALLENGES THE SUBSCRIPTION BASED MODEL OF SERVICE PROVIDERS ALONGSIDE ESCALATING ENERGY COSTS AND THE EVER EXPANDING SPECTRUM OF TAXES AND FEES, PLACES NOTABLE STRAIN ON HOST.
FURTHERMORE, WHEN COMPLAINT PLANOS PROPOSED REGISTRATION FEES, WHICH IS SECTION SIX DASH 7 38 APPLICATION FEES, UM, TO THOSE LARGER CITIES OF LIKE NEW YORK, WHICH CHARGES 1 45, SAN ANTONIO CHARGES A HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR A THREE YEAR PERMIT.
AND LOS ANGELES, WHICH CHARGES $89.
IT FEELS LIKE AN UNNECESSARY OBSTACLE FOR US.
CONSIDER THE ECONOMIC RAMIFICATION.
PLANO HOST ALREADY CONTRIBUTES SIGNIFICANTLY THROUGH VARIOUS TAXES AND FEES, IMPOSING HEFTY REGISTRATIONS AND RENEWAL COSTS WILL ONLY COMPOUND THEIR FINANCIAL BURDEN.
WE MUST STRIVE TO IT FOR EQUILIBRIUM, ENSURING ADHERENCE TO REGULATIONS WITHOUT STIFLING GROWTH.
EXPLORING ALTERNATIVE FEE STRUCTURES THAT SUPPORT OUR LOCAL ECONOMY AND VIBRANT COMMUNITIES OF SHORT-TERM RENTAL HOST AND PLANO IS ESSENTIAL SECONDS.
LOWERING REGISTRATION FEES TO A THIRD OF THE, OF THEIR CURRENT AMOUNT AND IMPLEMENTING REDUCED RENEWAL FEES IS CRUCIAL.
THIS ADJUST SHOULD NOT OVERBURDEN THE CITY, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THE PROPERTY TAXES, HOTEL TAXES, AND OCCUPANCY TAXES.
WE ALREADY PAY SHORT-TERM RENT.
RENTING OUR HOMES IS A FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT, NOT A PRIVILEGE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION AND CONSIDERATION.
THE NEXT SPEAKER IS JENNIFER ASHER, FOLLOWED BY GINA MORAY.
UM, IT IS VERY CLEAR THAT MANY RES RESIDENTS ARE LEGITIMATELY UPSET ABOUT THE EXISTENCE OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.
BUT THE RESULT, UM, IS AN EXTREMELY SENSITIVE AND POSSIBLE, POSSIBLE OVERREACTION OR BIAS TO TOWARDS BLAMING TO A SHORT TERM RENTAL PROPERTY.
LOUD NOISE, FOR EXAMPLE, MAY COME FROM ANY ONE OF SEVERAL NEIGHBOR NEIGHBORS OR EVEN A GROUP WALKING DOWN THE SIDEWALK.
AND, AND A RESIDENT WHO IS ALREADY UNHAPPY ABOUT A PERFECTLY WELL-RUN.
SHORT-TERM RENTAL ON THE STREET MAY MAKE AN ASSUMPTION AND CALL IN A COMPLAINT WITHOUT EVEN INVESTIGATING WHERE THE NOISE IS COMING FROM.
SHORT-TERM RENTAL OWNERS SHOULD HAVE A CLEAR AND SIMPLE PATH TO PRESERVE OUR OWN RIGHTS AS CITIZENS AND PROPERTY OWNERS IN PLANO TO DEFEND OURSELVES AND NOT BE PENALIZED UNFAIRLY.
I'M SORRY I STARTED THIS WRONG.
THIS IS ABOUT SECTION SIX DASH 7 46 AND 7 47, UH, REGARDING HEARING AND APPEAL PROCESS FOR OFFENSES.
AND I FEEL THAT THERE SHOULD BE A MORE TIMELY AND SIMPLE, UH, PROCESS FOR, UM, FOR SHORT-TERM RENTAL OWNERS TO BE ABLE TO APPEAL OR 20 SECONDS, UM, GO TO IF THERE IS A, UM,
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A PROBLEM OR AN OFFENSE FURTHER, I BELIEVE, AS MENTIONED EARLIER, CANCELING EXISTING RESERVATIONS FOR A PROLONGED PERIOD COULD BE DEVASTATING FINANCIALLY FOR A SHORT-TERM RENTAL OWNER, UM, PARTICULARLY FOR A NUISANCE INCIDENT, UM, WHICH SHOULD BE, UM, MORE ACCURATELY REFLECT A NUISANCE OFFENSE AS THE DEFINITION OF A DICTIONARY DEFINITION OF A NUISANCE.I LIVED AT 48 25 BULL RUN DRIVE.
I'VE LIVED IN PLAINTIFF THE MAJORITY OF MY LIFE, BEEN AT THIS ADDRESS FOR 20 YEARS, AND HAVE BEEN AN ONSITE SHORT-TERM RENTAL HOST AIRBNB SUPERHOST FOR A LITTLE OVER TWO YEARS.
I DO, UM, HAVE SOME CONCERNS WITH THE STR TASK FORCE REPORT, UM, AS WELL AS ANY COMPLAINT AND OR EMERGENCY PHONE CALLS MADE TO LAW ENFORCEMENT AS IT RELATES TO CALL TO CALLS MADE TO PLANO PD.
I DO FEEL THAT CALLS WE THE OWNER, SHORT TERM RENTAL HOSTS MAKE VERSUS A NEIGHBOR OR SOMEONE ELSE MAKING A CALL AS BEING VERY DIFFERENT AND SHOULD BE TREATED AS SUCH.
FOR INSTANCE, IF ONE OF MY GUESTS PROCEEDS TO ATTEMPT TO THROW PARTY UP MY PROPERTY OR PARTICIPATES IN ILLEGAL ACTIVITY, THEN THIS CALL I MAKE TO PLANO PD SHOULD NOT COUNT THE SAME AS IF ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS OR SOMEONE ELSE MAKES A CALL DUE TO MY NEGLIGENCE OF MY SHORT TERM RENTAL.
THE OTHER ITEM I'D LIKE TO BRING UP IS SECTION SIX DASH 7 42, NOISE AND OUTDOOR ELECTRONIC MONITORING.
WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF REQUIRING NOISE MONITOR MONITORING, SORRY.
INDOOR NOISE MONITORING SHOULD NOT BE RELEVANT TO THE CITY OR OTHER RESIDENTS.
IF THERE'S A LOUD BABY CRYING OR A COUPLE HAVING A MASSIVE ARGUMENT, BUT IT'S NOT AUDIBLE TO OUTDOORS, THEN THERE'S REALLY, IT SERVES NO PURPOSE.
I DO FEEL, HOWEVER, THIS MIGHT BE AN ITEM THAT YOU COULD PRESENT DURING THE TRAINING SESSION AS AN OPTION TO SHORT-TERM RENTAL HOSE.
THE NEXT SPEAKER IS JASON KERIAN, FOLLOWED BY JAMES GILBERT.
COUNSEL, THANK THANK YOU FOR, UH, TAKING THE TIME.
UH, I NEVER WEAR THESE SO YOU'RE ALL A BLUR.
ROYAL MELBOURNE, UH, BEEN A RESIDENT IN PLANO FOR 10 YEARS, ALSO A SHORT-TERM RENTAL OWNER.
UM, I WANNA TALK MORE GENERALLY, UH, ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE, BUT ALSO AS MEETINGS PROGRESS.
I'D LIKE THIS TO BE A FOCUS OF THE GROUP, AND THAT IS BALANCE.
UM, WE, UM, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS ALL BALANCED, NOT JUST FOR THE COMMUNITY, FOR THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT SHORT TERM HOUSING, BUT FOR THOSE THAT DO THAT ARE LEGAL RESIDENTS.
UM, WE DON'T WANT IT ON THE SIDE OF MAYHEM.
WE DON'T WANT IT ON THE SIDE OF, OF, UM, RULES THAT ARE PASSED THAT ARE POSSIBLY LEGALLY QUESTIONABLE.
WE WANT BALANCE, UH, WITH THAT.
THIS IS ACTUALLY TURNING OUT TO BE A BAN ON SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
IT IS TRUE THAT WE ARE GRANDFATHERED IN, BUT EVERYONE KNOWS THERE'S ATTRITION IN SHORT-TERM RENTALS, AND ONCE THOSE GO, THERE CAN BE NO MORE.
SO IF YOU CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE YOU CAN HAVE COMPLAINTS AGAINST GOOD STANDING HOSTS, THAT CREATES AN ENVIRONMENT OF AGITATION WHERE WE COULD BE A TARGET OF, OF PEOPLE THAT SAY THEY DO NOT WANT US IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE A RIGHT TO BE THERE.
SO I'D RECOMMEND THAT YOU LOOK AT PROTECTING THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL OWNERS.
THOSE OF US THAT ACTUALLY WANT TO BE COMPLIANT, THAT ACTUALLY DO WANT THESE REGULATIONS, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE IT FAIR AND BALANCED.
THIS IS NOT A TYRANNY OF, OF THE MAJORITY, AND WE HOPE THAT THROUGH THIS PROCESS WE SHOW WE ARE RESPONSIBLE AND WE'RE RESPECTFUL, BUT WE DO NEED TO BE HEARD.
I LIVE ON ROARING RIDGE DRIVE IN PLANO, TEXAS.
I'VE BEEN IN, IN PLANO NOW FOR ABOUT 40 YEARS.
UM, I UNFORTUNATELY AM A PERSON THAT LIVES WITH A BBR, A SHORT TERM RENTAL BEHIND MY HOME.
I'VE ENCOUNTERED SO MUCH NOISE, UH, CREATED SO MUCH OF AN ISSUE FROM A TRASH TO NOISE TO JUST TOTALLY DISRESPECT FOR ME AS A HOMEOWNER.
I HAVE PERSONALLY CALLED THE POLICE MYSELF TWICE MY NEIGHBORS.
I HAVE FOUR OTHER NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE ALSO FILED DIFFERENT COMPLAINTS, NOT EVEN THE SAME DAY I FILED.
SO I'VE NOT HAD A REALLY GOOD EXPERIENCE AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
I'VE HAD ENCOUNTERS WITH THE, UH, THE PEOPLE THAT MANAGE IT ON FIVE DIFFERENT OCCASIONS WHERE I PERSONALLY SPOKE TO THE MANAGER ON THREE DIFFERENT OCCASIONS TRYING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
I WANT TO HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP, BUT I DON'T LIKE WHAT I AM BEING FACED WITH.
I HAVE NO CONTROL OVER WHAT'S TAKING PLACE.
I HEARD WHAT WAS PRESENTED TONIGHT.
I DON'T KNOW THAT'S GONNA REALLY GONNA
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SOLVE THE PROBLEM.I WISH IT WOULD GO AWAY BECAUSE I, I DON'T, THERE'S NO HISTORY YET AS TO WHAT THE IMPACT FINANCIALLY IS GONNA BE FOR THE HOMEOWNER.
20 SECONDS THAT LIVES NEXT DOOR TO A SHORT TERM RENTAL TO SEE WHAT THE COST IS GONNA BE NEGATIVELY FOR US ON THIS SITE.
SO WE'RE ABOUT TO, I'M GONNA SAY 10 MORE SECONDS.
SCHOOL'S GONNA BE OUT INSTEAD OF HAVING WEEKEND VISITORS.
I HAVE DAILY VISITORS BEHIND MY HOUSE.
THE NEXT SPEAKER IS EFRIN, JIRA.
JDO AND EFRIN WILL BE FOLLOWED BY ZOE SANCHEZ.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS TEAM.
MY FIRST TIME HERE, UH, I HAVE TO CALL OUT WHAT I HEAR BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO REPEAT.
UH, ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, MY NEIGHBOR ACROSS THE STREET SOLD HIS HOME.
HE GOT PAID CASH, OKAY? AND ALSO I FOUND NOT IN MY DOOR.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES THE PLANET POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN IN THE HOME.
UH, THERE WAS A VERY SERIOUS ISSUE.
I DON'T WANT TO GO IN DETAILS.
THE OWNER OF THIS SDR COMPANY, TR HOME, IS A COMPANY WHO CAME FROM CANADA.
THEY OWN SEVERAL SDR AND THE METROPLEX, AND THEY PAYING CASH.
THESE, THESE BIG COMPANIES, THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT COMMUNITIES, RESIDENTIALS NEIGHBORHOODS.
AIRBNB IS ANOTHER BIG COMPREHENSIVE THAT JUST WANT TO MAKE MONEY.
AIRBNB CUSTOMER SERVICE TOLD ME OVER THE PHONE THAT THEY DON'T ALLOW PARTIES OR EVENTS.
HOWEVER, PARTIES, EVENTS STILL HAPPEN 20 SECONDS.
I DON'T KNOW WHO, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH THE BANKS LEAVE.
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW WHO YOUR NEIGHBOR IS.
I'LL ASK, PLEASE, TO VERY STRONG, APPLY VERY STRONG RULES AND FORCE AIRBNB RULES, THEN NO PARTIES AND EVENTS.
IF YOU THEY NOT COMPLIANT, PLEASE SHUT DOWN THE BUSINESS.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS ZOE AND I'M AT 2037 CANS DRIVE, AND I AM BEGRUDGINGLY SUPPORTING A REALLY STRONG ORDINANCE AGAINST ST.
OVER A YEAR AGO, I STOOD BEFORE YOU RECOUNTING THE HERRING EXPERIENCE OF A BULLET PIERCING THROUGH THE SANCTITY OF MY HOME, SHATTERING THE PEACE AND TERRIFYING MY INNOCENT THREE-YEAR-OLD CHILD.
I ATTEMPTED TO CONVEY THE SHEER HORROR OF HAVING TO EXPLAIN SUCH AN INCIDENT TO A YOUNG CHILD, AND THE PAINFUL NECESSITY OF TEACHING HER TO PROTECT HERSELF FROM THE POTENTIAL HARM I PLEADED WITH YOU TO EMPATHIZE, TO IMAGINE YOURSELVES IN MY SHOES, TO UNDERSTAND THE URGENCY OF ENACTING STRINGENT REGULATIONS ON SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
THE ORDINANCE GOVERNING SHORT-TERM RENTALS MUST BE ROBUST, UNWAVERING, AND UNEQUIVOCAL, LEAST STRICT.
IT MUST SERVE AS A BARRIER AGAINST THE ENCROACHMENT OF VIOLENCE AND CHAOS INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
I IMPLORE YOU TO HEED OUR VOICES TO HONOR THE RESPONSIBILITY AND TRUST US UPON YOU TO PROTECT THE WELLBEING OF OUR CITIZENS.
LET US BE THE ARCHITECTS OF A FUTURE WHERE EVERY CHILD CAN SLEEP SOUNDLY WITHOUT FEAR.
ONE SECONDS WHERE EVERY PARENT CAN FIND SOLACE IN THE KNOWLEDGE THAT THEIR HOME IS TRULY THEIR SANCTUARY.
THE NEXT SPEAKER IS LYNN MCCLEON, AND SHE OR LYNN WILL BE FOLLOWED BY JUSTIN ELLIOT, WHO WILL JOIN US ON ZOOM.
I'M LYNN MCCLEON AND I LIVE AT 40 21, UM, ELM HILL DRIVE FOR THE PAST 28 YEARS.
YES, I SUPPORT REGISTRATION WITH ENFORCEMENT.
I HAVE A SHORT TERM RENTAL THREE DOORS DOWN FOR ME.
I'M GONNA QUICKLY TOUCH ON FOUR OF THE PROBLEMS THAT MY NEIGHBORHOOD HAS HAD WITH THIS SHORT TERM RENTAL.
NUMBER ONE, PROPERTY MAINTENANCE.
THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL OWNER DOES NOT SEEM TO UNDERSTAND THAT SHE IS RESPONSIBLE TO MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY.
THE STR IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD IS ONE OF THE WORST LOOKING
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PROPERTIES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.I'VE CONTACTED PLANO NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES NUMEROUS TIMES DUE TO EXCESSIVE TRASH LEFT ON THE STR DRIVEWAY, INCLUDING A WALMART SHOPPING CART.
SO FOR WEEKS IT LOOKED LIKE I WAS LIVING IN THE SLUMS RATHER THAN IN THE CITY OF EXCELLENCE.
NUMBER THREE, EXCESSIVE NOISE.
ONE OF THE REASONS WHY PEOPLE RENT STR IS SO THEY CAN BRING THEIR BIG DOGS WITH THEM, BECAUSE HOTELS WON'T ALLOW IT.
WHEN SHORT-TERM RENTERS LEAVE FOR THE DAY, THEY LEAVE THEIR DOGS OUTSIDE ALL DAY AND THE DOGS BARK NONSTOP BECAUSE THEY'RE IN AN UNFAMILIAR, UM, AREA.
MY ONCE QUIET AND PEACEFUL NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOW LIKE A DOG KENNEL.
THE STR HAS AN ATTACHED GARAGE LOCATED IN THE BACK OF THE HOUSE, AND THE S-T-O-S-T-R OWNER DOES NOT PROVIDE A KEYPAD FOR THEM TO USE THE GARAGE.
UM, I HOPE THAT REQUIRING GARAGE ACCESS WOULD BE A MANDATORY REQUIREMENT OF AN STR.
I HOPE THAT THE REGISTRATION PROCESS WILL ADDRESS ALL FOUR OF THESE CONCERNS WITH ENFORCEMENT.
JUSTIN ELLIOT WILL BE JOINING US ON ZOOM.
MR. ELLIOT, WILL YOU PLEASE TURN ON YOUR CAMERA? THERE YOU GO.
UH, WHILE I'M NOT AGAINST THE REGISTRATION IN GENERAL, UH, I'M AGAINST THIS REGISTRATION PROCESS BECAUSE OF A COUPLE ITEMS. UH, THOSE BEING THAT IT DOESN'T SEEM TO COVER, UH, CONSIDER THE OVERALL INPUT, UH, FROM THE SCR OWNER COMMUNITIES, UH, AND WHAT OCCURS TO THEIR BUSINESS WHEN THE REGISTRATION IS REVOKED.
AND AS WELL, IT DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH PROTECTIONS IN THERE FOR THE GRAND, UH, FOR BEING GRANDFATHERED IN, UM, AND, UH, AND DEFINITIONS AROUND THEM.
SO AFTER REVIEWING THE FULL REGISTRATION, MY TAKEAWAY WAS THAT THE SPR OWNERS, UH, WERE NOT SURVEYED OR INTERVIEWED.
THAT'S MY IMPRESSION, UH, TO FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THE STR PROCESS IS AND THOSE FINER DETAILS.
UM, THE, SO WHAT OCCURS TO, UH, WHAT OCCURS WHEN IT, WHEN YOU LOSE YOUR REGISTRATION, UH, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO CANCEL YOUR FUTURE BOOKINGS? UH, WELL, ON B-V-R-B-O, IF YOU HAVE TO CANCEL FUTURE BOOKINGS, IT CAN COST YOU, THE FEES CAN BE UP TO 50% OF THE TOTAL BOOKING.
SO IF I HAVE A, IF I HAVE SOMEBODY STAYING THERE FOR THREE WEEKS AND IT'S A 3000 OR 2000, WHATEVER IT IS, I PAY 50% OF THAT, UH, FEE.
SO, UH, AS WELL, IF I HAVE MULTIPLE PROPERTIES ACROSS MULTIPLE CITIES, 20 SECONDS, AND I HAVE, AND I, AND MY, MY PROFILE IS IMPACTED BY THIS, IT WILL REDUCE MY SEARCH RANKING ACROSS ALL MY PROPERTIES.
SO THERE'S SOME SINCERE IMPACTS THERE.
THE OTHER, THE LAST ITEM FOR THE BEING GRANDFATHERED IN, WHAT HAPPENS IF THERE'S ANOTHER COVID OR ANOTHER TEXAS FREEZE THAT IMPACTS MY PROPERTY TO WHERE I CAN'T RENT, I CAN'T AFFORD TO DO THE REGISTRATION FOR THAT YEAR, WHATEVER BY ALLOWED TO COME BACK IN AS THE GRANDFATHER IN PROPERTY.
THERE'S NOT ENOUGH EXPLANATION ABOUT THE PROTECTIONS THERE, BUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU'RE REVOKED.
THE NEXT SPEAKER IS MATT BINGHAM, FOLLOWED BY ANNIE HILL.
UM, AS THE RESIDENT OF PLANO, YOU ALL CAN HAVE GUESTS IN YOUR HOME.
YOU CAN HAVE BUSINESS IN YOUR HOME IF YOU WANT PEOPLE TO PAY YOU TO STAY IN YOUR HOME.
PEOPLE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
AS WE LEARNED FROM THE CITY STAFF IN THE LAST PNZ MEETING, NOT ONE SINGLE CALL OF SERVICE FOR SERVICE WAS MADE IN REGARDS TO A PARTIAL HOME STRT BY THOSE STATS, THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IN THE CITY ARE NON SRT HOMES WHO HAVE COUNTLESS MORE CALLS OF SERVICE.
UM, SO PUTTING THIS BURDEN ON, ADDITIONALLY, PUTTING THIS BURDEN ON, UH, REGISTRATION AND ADDITIONAL TAXES AND REQUIREMENTS THAT COST LOTS OF MONEY TO THE PEOPLE WITH ONE OR TWO HOME ROOMS IN THEIR HOME THAT WE CAN'T AFFORD TO DO THAT, IT WOULD PUT US OUTTA BUSINESS WHO WOULD PUT PE SOME OF US ON THE STREETS, OR WE'D HAVE TO START RENTING OUT THE WHOLE HOME, WHICH NOBODY WANTS EITHER.
THANK, UH, GOOD EVENING MAYOR MINDS AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
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YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS ISSUE.I WAS PROUD TO SERVE ON THE CITY'S SHORT-TERM RENTAL TASK FORCE.
I'VE BEEN A HOMEOWNER IN PLANO FOR OVER 20 YEARS, AND I'M AN ATTORNEY LICENSED PRACTICE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.
GIVEN YOUR REQUEST FOR BREVITY AND TO STAY ON TOPIC HERE, I'M GONNA POSTPONE MY PREPARED COMMENTS ON PROPERTY LAW AND ZONING FOR ANOTHER TIME.
UM, I AM FOR THE REGISTRATION THAT, UH, IS BEING PROPOSED HERE TONIGHT.
IT WAS ONE OF THE THREE KEY FINDINGS OF THE TASK FORCE THAT I WAS A PART OF.
AS YOU CAN SEE IN MR. HOWARD'S PRESENTATION, THE ORDINANCE SEEKS TO ADDRESS A NUMBER OF ISSUES.
IT'S COMPLICATED BECAUSE SHORT-TERM RENTALS RAISE A NUMBER OF ISSUES.
WHAT YOU CANNOT SEE, BUT I CAN ATTEST TO AS A MEMBER OF THE TASK FORCE, IS THAT THE GUIDANCE GIVEN BY THE TASK FORCE REFLECTED LENGTHY AND THOUGHTFUL DISCUSSIONS THAT DID SEEK BALANCE ON BOTH SIDES FOR THE UNDERLYING ISSUES.
UM, TRYING TO STAY IN YOUR TIMEFRAME HERE, UM, I DO BELIEVE THAT THIS IS ALSO A CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TOOL FOR PEOPLE WHO WILL BE REQUIRED TO LIVE NEAR SHORT-TERM RENTALS THAT ARE PROBLEMS I LIVE NEAR TWO.
ONE PRACTICAL COMMENT THAT I'M COMPELLED TO MAKE IN RESPONSE TO ONE OF THE EARLIER COMMENTS, UM, IS THAT SHORT-TERM RENTALS PRESENT A 24 7 PROBLEM IN OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, 20 SECONDS.
SO RESIDENTS NEED TO BE GIVEN TOOLS LIKE THE REPRESENTATIVE WHO'S ABLE TO RESPOND WITHIN AN HOUR TO ADDRESS ISSUES THAT HAPPEN OUTSIDE NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS, WHICH COINCIDENTALLY IS WHEN ALL OF THE PROBLEMS HAPPEN ON OUR STREET.
UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED, UH, WORK ON THIS VERY IMPORTANT MATTER.
THE NEXT SPEAKER IS DANELLA LETTERER, FOLLOWED BY EDWARD LETTERER TO USE MY GLASSES.
MY NAME IS DANELLA AND I LIVE IN 1608 AS
MY POINTS ARE IN THE SECTION 6, 7, 3 5, THE REFERENCE TO THE COMPLETE REGISTRATION APPLICATION.
THE POINT NUMBER FOUR IN THAT SECTION, TALK ABOUT THE PLANT.
SOME OF THESE, A FLOOR PLANT, UH, RELATE, RELATE WITH THE SAFETY EQUIPMENT, ARE CLEAR ENOUGH FOR OTHER NEED.
A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARIFICATION, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, FLOOR PLAN FOR SLEEPING AREA.
HOW CAN WE D TERMINATE THE NUMBER OF CO OCCUPANTS PER, FOR EXAMPLE, WE CAN USE A SQUARE FOOT OF THE ROOM, OR HOW MANY, UH, PEOPLE CAN SLEEP IN THAT ROOM? WE NEED A CLARIFICATION TO AVOID ANY OF BEING DENIED DURING OUR REGISTRATION.
FUTURE LAYOUT PLANS IS THE OTHER POINT IN THAT SPECIFIC 0.4.
THIS PLAN REALLY MAKE NO SENSE, ESPECIALLY WHEN FURNITURE IS MOVING.
THE ORIGINAL PLAN MAY BE NO LONGER BE ACCURATE, AND A NEW PLAN WILL BE NEED TO BE SUBMITTED WITH IN LESS THAN THREE DAYS TO THE DIRECTOR.
MY QUESTION IS, WHAT IS THE PROPOSED AND WHAT THE SPECIFIC PUBLIC HEALTHY AND SAFETY CONCERN IS THIS LOOKING TO ADDRESS? ALSO, HOW COULD A REARRANGEMENT FURNITURE IN THE PERSONAL RESIDENCE BE CONSIDERED A CRIMINAL OFFENSE THAT YOU CAN SEE IN SECTION C SEVEN FOUR A IN THE FENCE SUB NUMBER 12.
THE NEXT POINT IS THE PHOTOGRAPHERS ON INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR, UH, OF THE PROPERTY.
WE PROVIDE THE LISTING NUMBER OF THE PROPERTY, UH, AND IN THE PLATFORM.
WHEN WE GO TO THE REGISTRATION OVER THERE, YOU CAN SEE ALL OF THE PICTURE YOU MAY WANT TO SEE.
OTHERWISE, YOU COULD, YOU WILL NEED TO STORE THIS IN A FILE AND MAINTAIN ALL PICTURE OF DATE.
WE UPDATE PICTURES CONSTANTLY.
THAT PUT US AGAIN IN A POSITION THAT MAYBE IF NOT FOR, IN THE 70 HOURS, WE WILL GO TO, UH, BE, UH, 20 SECONDS.
UH, THE OTHER TWO IS LISTING IN THE PLATFORM.
IF WE DOING AWAY WITH THE SEASONAL RENTAL, UH, WHAT WE NEED TO UPDATE, UH, POSSIBLE LEASE, UH, IN SEVEN TWO HOURS.
AND THE LAST, UH, THE HOST RULE NUMBERS OF OCCUPANTS, RESTRICTION PROVISION, AND PARTIES AND OTHER RELEVANT INFORMATION IS ALWAYS AVAILABLE FOR THE CITY, FOR THE CITY TO REVIEW, UM, IN THE PLATFORM.
AND CHANGE, UH, WILL BE IN REAL TIME IF YOU CHECK THAT YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE OFFERED TO THE PEOPLE.
1608 AZURE, RIGHT TRAIL, 40 YEAR RESIDENT OF PLANO.
YOU KNOW, I'M ALL FOR EFFECTIVE, WELL THOUGHT OUT, EQUITABLE REGISTRATION.
THAT'S SIMPLE AND FAIR, BUT I NEED CLARIFICATION.
ONE POINT, UH, PARTICULAR JUST
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THE MECHANICS OF IT.7 35 SAYS NO RE NO STR MAY BE OPERATED WITHOUT OPERATED WITHOUT AN APPROVED VALID STR REGISTRATION.
HA REGISTRATION IS NON-TRANSFERABLE AND SHOULD NOT BE ASSIGNED, NOT TRANS OR TRANSFERRED TO A NEW OWNER.
7 37 A SAYS A REGISTRATION IS VALID FOR ONE CALENDAR YEAR UNLESS THERE IS A CHANGE IN OWNERSHIP.
7 45, SUSPENSION OF ONE YEAR OPERATION OF AN STR WITHOUT A VALID REGISTRATION.
IF THE DIRECTOR DETERMINES STR WAS OPERATED WITHOUT A VALID REGISTRATION, THEN THE APPLICATION OF REGISTRATION MAY DENIED FOR ONE YEAR.
SO THE MECHANICS OF THIS, I'M GRANDFATHERED.
REGISTRATION IS NONTRANSFERABLE.
REGISTRATION IS NO LONGER VALID UPON THE SALE.
NEW OWNERS APPLY FOR THE NEW REGISTRATION ON JULY 2ND.
GUESTS ARE IN MY HOUSE TILL JULY 18TH BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR A 21 DAY.
BOOKING 7 25 2 A AND D IS A HUGE REGISTRATION PROCESS, UH, WITHOUT, UH, WHAT ABOUT EXISTING RESERVATIONS GOING TO THE NEW OWNERS? IF I'M SELLING MY HOME AND I'M SELLING THAT OPPORTUNITY TO THEM AT THE SAME TIME, ARE NEW OWNERS IN VIOLATION OF OPERATING WITHOUT A VALID AND APPROVED REGISTRATION? HOW WILL THIS WORK NOT TO PENALIZE NEW OWNERS AND ARRIVING AND BOOKING GUESTS? WE NEED A GRACE PERIOD PROCESS.
THE NEXT SPEAKER IS CLARA DTE, FOLLOWED BY KRISTIN REKER AND CORY REKER WILL BE THE LAST SPEAKER.
GOOD EVENING COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYOR.
MY NAME IS CLARA DTE AND I HAVE BEEN A PLANNER RESIDENT FOR THE PAST 15 YEARS.
I AM OPPOSED TO THIS AUDIENCE AS CURRENTLY WRITTEN.
I WANNA REFER TO SECTION SIX DASH 7 45, DENIAL AND SUSPENSION OF STR REGISTRATION.
GENERALLY, THE TASK FORCE RECOMMENDED ESCALATING PENALTIES FOR REPEAT VIOLATIONS.
WE FEEL THAT PENALTIES IN THIS SECTIONS ARE DISPROPORTIONATE AND EXCESSIVE PENALTIES SHOULD START WITH A WARNING OR NOTICE.
EVENTS WILL A FINE FOR A SECOND OCCURRENCE AND ONLY AFTER THAT PROGRESS TO A SUSPENSION REGISTRATION.
THIS SECTION BELIES A LACK OF UNDERSTANDING OF HOW HOSTING AND HOSTING PLATFORMS OPERATE.
EVEN A SHORT SUSPENSION AND REGISTRATION OF REGISTRATIONS WOULD RESULT IN CANCELED BOOKING AND IMMEDIATE LOSS OF INCOME, LOSS OF TA OF STATUS CAREFULLY BUILT OVER A PERIOD OF YEARS, AN IMPAIRMENT OF THE ABILITY TO EARN FUTURE INCOME FOR HOSTS WHO RELY ON SUCH INCOME FOR THE LIVELIHOOD.
THIS MAY RESULT AS IN SEVERE FINANCIAL HARDSHIP, REVOKING OUR RIGHTS DUE TO ONE INCIDENT FOR THREE MONTHS OR SIX MONTHS.
IT'S A BIT EXTREME REGARDING SYRIAN'S INCIDENTS.
WHAT EVIDENCE WOULD BE NECESSARY TO PROVE THAT THE OWNER WAS AWARE, BUT DISREGARDED THE RISK? WHAT ARE THE ACTIONS YOU'RE EXPECTING THE SDR OWNER TO TAKE HERE AS A PREVENTIVE STEP? LASTLY, WE NEED CLARIFICATION ABOUT SECTION I ACTION DURING SUSPENSION DOES A NON-CONFORMING STR WITH A SUSPENDED REGISTRATION RISK LOSING NON-CONFORMING STATUS DURING THE SUSPENSION PERIOD.
GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYOR.
I'M A 15 YEAR RESIDENT, 12 YEAR HOMEOWNER, AND SEVEN YEAR SUPERHOST.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE MY THOUGHTS THIS EVENING.
I'M OPPOSED TO THIS REGISTRATION.
AS WRITTEN AS NOTED IN THE PHASE TWO REPORT, THE TASK FORCE AGREED THAT THERE ARE IMPORTANT DIFFERENCES BETWEEN LISTINGS WITH ONSITE MANAGEMENT SUCH AS OURS AND THOSE WITHOUT.
ADDITIONALLY, THROUGHOUT THE TASK FORCE PROCESS, NO EVIDENCE WAS PRESENTED THAT INDICATES THERE ARE ANY ISSUES WITH THESE TYPES OF LISTINGS IN TERMS OF NUISANCES, SERIOUS INCIDENTS OR NEGATIVE EFFECTS ON NEIGHBORS.
ON THE CONTRARY, WITH THE PRIMARY RESIDENT RESIDING ON SITE, THESE HOMES CONTRIBUTE STRONGLY TO COMMUNITY FABRIC.
UNFORTUNATELY, THIS IMPORTANT AND REAL DISTINCTION IS BARELY EVIDENT IN THE PROPOSED REGISTRATION REQUIREMENTS.
THE REQUIREMENTS OF REGISTRATION SHOULD BE ALIGNED TO THE RISK OF THE USE.
SPECIFICALLY, ADDITIONAL INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS MAY NOT BE AFFORDABLE, ATTAINABLE, OR APPROPRIATE FOR THIS TYPE OF RENTAL.
THE LEVEL OF DOCUMENTATION REQUIRED IS BURDENSOME, INVASIVE, AND GRATUITOUS.
WHILE NOT ADVANCING ANY CLEAR PUBLIC INTEREST, THE FEES SHOULD LIKEWISE BE ALIGNED WITH A SIMPLER STREAMLINED LEVEL OF REVIEW.
AND TO PARAPHRASE CHAIR DAVID DOWNS FROM LAST WEEK'S MEETING 22ND.
THE PROCESS FOR A ONE BEDROOM RENTAL SHOULD BE A SIMPLE ONE PAGER.
I SINCERELY HOPE YOU WILL TAKE THESE CONCERNS INTO CONSIDERATION AS YOU WORK ON WORK THROUGH THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE.
GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
AS A RESIDENT OF THE BULKY WASTE PILOT PROJECT AREA, I, FOR ONE, WELCOME THE RETURN OF REGULAR MONTHLY COLLECTION.
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I OPPOSE THIS REGISTRATION ORDINANCE AS CURRENTLY WRITTEN.IT IS HEAVY ON PUNISHMENT, CLASSIFYING ANY INFRACTION OF CITY, STATE, OR FEDERAL RULES AS CRIMINAL CONDUCT.
BE SURE TO READ THAT DEFINITION.
IT GOES BEYOND THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE TASK FORCE IN SOME INSTANCES AND IGNORES THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS THAN OTHERS.
I'M DISMAYED THAT THERE HAS NOT BEEN MORE ROBUST OUTREACH TO ALL STAKEHOLDERS, SPECIFICALLY THE STR HOST COMMUNITY.
THIS COMMUNITY IS SMALL, SOME 400 OR SO INDIVIDUALS.
AND THE BROADCAST OUTREACH EFFORTS CONDUCTED TODAY HAVE LARGELY FAILED TO CONNECT WITH MANY.
THE ARLINGTON MODEL, UH, IS THE TOUCHSTONE OF THIS ENTIRE PROCESS.
AND, SORRY, UH, I'VE LOOKED TO AND, AND HAS LOOKED TO.
UM, I CROSSED OUT TOO MUCH PRIOR TO ENACTING REGULATIONS.
ARLINGTON LEADERS, UH, DIRECTED STAFF TO CONDUCT MEETINGS WITH BOTH HOMEOWNER GROUPS AND THE LOCAL SDR ALLIANCE TO REVIEW THE FINAL DRAFT ORDINANCE AND SOLICIT FEEDBACK.
THOSE MEETINGS YIELDED AREAS, AREAS OF BOTH CONSENSUS AND DISAGREEMENT, BUT ULTIMATELY LAY THE FOUNDATION FOR THEIR SUCCESSFUL REGULATIONS.
THIS SORT OF STAKEHOLDER INPUT, UH, THAT AFFORDS BOTH PARTIES EQUAL WEIGHT, UH, HAS BEEN LARGELY ABSENT IN PLANO OVER THE LAST YEAR.
THE TASK FORCE REPORT IS A PRODUCT OF A MAJORITY RULES DEMOCRATIC PROCESS.
THIS, HOWEVER, FALLS SHORT OF THE EQUITABLE, EQUITABLE BALANCING OF MINORITY INTERESTS THAT WE EXPECT IN OUR REPRESENTATIVE SYSTEM.
SO THAT'S THE END OF THE SPEAKERS.
AND, UH, I KNOW MANY OF YOU ASKED QUESTIONS REGARDING, UM, CURTIS'S PRESENTATION.
UH, AS FAR AS DIRECTION GOES, WE, WE JUST, WE NEED TO GIVE STAFF A DIRECTION AS WHETHER OR NOT THIS, UM, PARTICULAR REGISTRATION OVERVIEW IS, IS IN THE DIRECTION THAT, THAT WE FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH.
AND SO I'D, I'D LIKE TO MAKE THIS AS BRIEF AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE THE, THE DECISION WILL BE, YOU KNOW, IN A MONTH, MONTH AND A HALF FROM NOW.
SO, SO ANYWAY, UH, IF, IF, IF YOU DON'T MIND, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ELLI, IF YOU'LL JUST KIND OF GIVE YOUR THOUGHTS ON IT SO THAT WE CAN KIND OF GIVE SOME DIRECTION.
SO I THINK WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK WITH THIS REGISTRATION ORDINANCE.
AS I MENTIONED, UH, DURING MY QUESTIONS FOR, UH, DIRECTOR HOWARD, UM, I THINK WE COULD TIGHTEN UP, UH, SIX DASH 7 4 2 TO, UH, MAKE IT CLEAR THAT WE'RE REQUIRING CAMERAS AND THE, THAT THE ELECTRONIC MONITORING IS NOT AUDIO ONLY THAT, BECAUSE I DO THINK CAMERAS WILL DETER SOME OF THE ILLEGAL BEHAVIOR IN FRONT YARDS THAT WE'VE HEARD ABOUT FROM RESIDENTS.
UM, THEN ALSO, UM, SIX DASH 7 45.
UM, I DO THINK THAT FOR REALLY SERIOUS INCIDENTS LIKE GUNFIRE, UH, UH, PROSTITUTION, YOU KNOW, UH, PERHAPS, UH, UM, DRUG DEALING THINGS OF THAT NATURE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY AS DIRECTOR HOWARD SAID, THERE, THERE ARE GOING TO BE OTHER PENAL CODE ISSUES, UH, INVOLVING THAT.
BUT IF IT'S, IF THE PENAL CODE ISSUES COME DOWN ON THE GUEST, BUT THE OWNER WAS NOT, UH, VIGILANT ENOUGH IN PREVENTING THAT TYPE OF BEHAVIOR, I DO THINK THERE SHOULD BE A LONGER THAN A YEAR SUSPENSION FOR THESE REALLY SERIOUS INCIDENTS.
UM, I ALSO THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME, SOME INTERESTING POINTS WERE MADE TONIGHT.
UH, AN STR OWNER ASKS TO NOT COUNT CALLS MADE BY THE STR OWNER AGAINST THE STR OWNER.
UH, THERE COULD BE A PLACE FOR THAT.
'CAUSE I WOULD HATE TO PASS A REGISTRATION ORDINANCE THAT WOULD CAUSE THE ONSITE PROPERTY MANAGER TO FEEL LIKE THEY CAN'T CALL THE POLICE TO, YOU KNOW, GET CONTROL OF AN UNRULY SITUATION THAT WOULD ACTUALLY WORK CONTRARY TO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE IN, UH, PACIFYING NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT BEING SAID, IF SOMEBODY ELSE ALSO CALLS, MAYBE IT WOULD STILL COUNT.
I JUST, I, I THINK WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO CALL THE POLICE WHEN THEY NOTICE A PROBLEM.
UM, I ALSO THINK IN TERMS OF, UH, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST THE ONE YEAR SUSPENSIONS, UH, I WOULD BE OKAY HAVING AN APPEAL TO COUNCIL.
UH, I HAVE FULL FAITH IN THE CITY MANAGER, BUT SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE DONE IN OTHER AREAS, LIKE WITH THE COVID EMERGENCY POWERS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, OR EVEN RATIFICATIONS OF EMERGENCY EXPENDITURES.
WE'VE HAD A ROUTE FOR THINGS TO COME, UH, BEFORE THE COUNCIL.
AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S, UH, ULTIMATELY THAT'S WHO THE PEOPLE GET TO REPRESENT, UH, GET TO ELECT.
AND SO I, I'D BE OKAY WITH, UH, AN APPEAL TO, UH, THE COUNCIL.
AND IN GENERAL, I, I THINK WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK.
I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT WE HAVE A WAY TO REALLY ENFORCE THIS AND, UH, YOU KNOW, DEVOTE RESOURCES TO THE ENFORCEMENT OF THIS BECAUSE, UH, WE'VE GOTTA ROOT OUT BAD ACTORS TO, TO HAVE STRONG NEIGHBORHOODS.
UM, THIS ORDINANCE WHERE WE GOT TO TOOK A LOT OF COLLABORATION FROM THOSE THAT WERE STRICTLY
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OPPOSED TO STR AND FA AND, UH, RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY VERSUS WHAT WE CAN DO IS DETERMINED BY THE FIFTH CIRCUIT.UH, THE STR OWNERS HERE ARE REPRESENTED.
UH, I HAVE TO APOLOGIZE THAT THEY DID NOT REACH OUT TO ENOUGH OF YOU TO JOIN THE, THE 16 MEMBERS, BUT WE HEAR YOUR VOICES.
PLEASE UNDERSTAND THIS ORDINANCE IS, WE'RE AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS PROCESS.
UM, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THIS OPEN FORUM HERE AND WE HEAR YOU ALL.
AND WE THANK YOU ALL FOR PARTICIPATING.
I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS WHETHER OR NOT WE HAD DETERMINED ENOUGH, HAVE ENOUGH DETAIL IN THE ON ONSITE OWNERSHIP OF STR VERSUS THE OFFSITE.
AND THAT'D BE THOSE THAT HAVE, WHO DON'T LIVE ON THE PROPERTY THAT ARE, UH, THAT ARE NOT THERE.
I DO HAVE AN ISSUE WITH RESPOND.
I THINK WE NEED TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEAR AND CONCISE.
WILL A PHONE CALL BE SUFFICIENT WITHIN AN HOUR? I DON'T KNOW OF THAT ANSWER.
UH, I WAS HOPING TO HAVE SOMEONE AT THE PROPERTY SITE WITHIN AN HOUR, BUT THAT'S JUST ME.
AND I THINK WE ALSO NEED TO LOOK AT THE FEE STRUCTURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING HERE AS SOME OF OUR, THE OWNERS HAVE REPRESENTED THAT, UH, THE FEE STRUCTURE AS REPRESENTED IN THE ORDINANCE COULD BE A LITTLE ONEROUS ON 'EM.
AND THEN, UH, THE TRANSFER OF THE PROPERTY, IF THAT PROPERTY WERE SOLD AND YOU MADE COMMITMENTS MONTH OUT, I'VE ALREADY BOOKED MY ST FOR AUGUST, SO I'M COMMITTED TO GOING TO COLORADO THEN.
SO I UNDERSTAND YOUR PAIN IF THAT PROPERTY WAS SOLD IN, IN THE MEANTIME.
SO I THINK THOSE ARE SOME PARTICULAR ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS AT THIS POINT.
MAYOR PROTON? UH, YEAH, A FEW POINTS THAT I'LL BRING UP.
ONE IS I THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD POINT ABOUT, UM, SOMEONE SAYING THEY NEED TO KNOW WHO WILL BE CONTACTING THEM IF THERE'S AN ISSUE.
PEOPLE DON'T ANSWER THEIR PHONES TODAY IF THEY DON'T KNOW WHO'S CALLING THEM.
SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE, IN TRAINING OR IN THE APPLICATION, THERE'S A DESIGNATE DESIGNATED NUMBER OR NUMBERS THAT THESE OWNERS KNOW TO PUT IN THEIR PHONE AND THIS IS WHO THEY'RE EXPECTING A NUMBER FOR.
I ALSO DO WONDER, UM, IF THE ONE HOUR CONTACT IS, UM, CORRECT OR IF MAYBE THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DESIGNATE A BACKUP NUMBER IF THEY'RE NOT AVAILABLE, IF THEY'RE ON VACATION.
NOT A, THERE'S REASON SOMEBODY MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO RESPOND, UM, IN AN HOUR.
UM, I ALSO HAD WRITTEN DOWN WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, RICK ELLI SAID ABOUT THE CITY MANAGER HAVING FINAL AUTHORITY, UM,
AND THEN, UM, ALSO JUST AN OPPORTUNITY IF, UM, IN MY MIND, WE REALLY WANNA INCENTIVIZE PEOPLE TO OPERATE.
WELL, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN TALKING A LOT ABOUT PENALIZING PEOPLE WHO AREN'T.
AND SO I'D LOVE FOR THERE TO BE SOMETHING IN THIS WHERE WE INCENTIVIZE STR WHO ARE PLAYING BY THE RULES, DOING REALLY WELL FOR A PERIOD OF TIME TO POSSIBLY GET, UM, WHATEVER THAT TIME PERIOD, IF IT'S THREE YEARS, FOUR YEARS, WHATEVER, TO GET, UM, A POTENTIAL DISCOUNT ON THEIR RENEWAL FEES IF, UM, TO INCENTIVIZE PEOPLE FOR THEIR GOOD BEHAVIOR.
UM, SO I SUPPORT EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED, UM, SO FAR.
I ALSO HAD ISSUE ABOUT THE ONE HOUR WINDOW AS WELL AS NOT KNOWING WHO'S GONNA BE CONTACTING YOU.
'CAUSE I NEVER ANSWERED THE PHONE ANYWAY.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE POTENTIALLY SOME WAY TO MAKE CONTACTS WITH TEXT MESSAGES OR, UM, SOME SORT OF WRITTEN NOTIFICATION.
I THINK THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE A GOOD IDEA.
UM, I HAD AN ISSUE WITH THE DEFINITIONS.
I MEAN, ALL THE CRIMINAL, UM, OR OFFENSE DEFINITIONS.
AND I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE LINKED TO, IF WE'RE GONNA MAKE, YOU KNOW, THESE OFFENSES CRIMINAL, THEN WE NEED TO LINK IT TO, UM, THE TEXAS PENAL CODE.
I, I, I JUST THINK THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE'RE GONNA BE PLAYING THIS, WELL, YOU KNOW, THE, IS THIS TOO VAGUE OR IS THIS REALLY WHAT IT MEANS? I MEAN, WHAT IS CHILD ABUSE? WHAT IS, YOU KNOW, SEXUAL MISCONDUCT? AND, AND I DON'T WANT TO BE, I, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE PLAYING THOSE TYPE OF GAMES AT ALL.
UM, OTHER THAN THAT, I, I THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, EVERY TIME WHEN WE PUT SOME SORT OF ORDINANCE IN PLACE, UM, WE, WE ARE GOING TO RUN INTO PROBLEMS. SO I LIKE TO SEE ONCE IT'S OUT, ONCE WE PASS, UM, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ENFORCING TO COME BACK AND, AND REVISIT AND RETWEET.
SO, UM, KIND OF LIKE OUR BULK, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE, UH, WHAT
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IS THAT? THE, THE BULKY WASTE? YEAH, THE BULKY WASTE THING.YOU KNOW, COME BACK AND, AND REEVALUATE WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, IS IT'S DOING WHAT WE INTENDED TO DO RATHER THAN JUST, UM, PENALIZING PEOPLE.
WE ARE ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO, TO, TO RENT RESPONSIBLY AND TO, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE IT A NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO I LIKE TO SEE MORE, UM, POSSIBLY LIKE EVERY SIX MONTHS OR EVERY 12, 12 MONTHS TO COME BACK AND RE AND HAVE THE STAFF TELL US WHETHER OR NOT THE REEVALUATION, HOW THIS IS GOING.
AND THEN THE FINAL ON THE, UH, APPEAL.
I, I WOULD RATHER, INSTEAD OF GOING TO A CITY COUNCIL, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE PERHAPS LIKE A, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LIKE WHEN THE MAYOR, YOU APPOINT US TO DIFFERENT, UM, PART OF, YOU KNOW, THE TASK FORCE.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, HAVE A COUPLE PEOPLE WHO WILL BE IN CHARGE OF THE APPEAL AND WORK WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND COMING UP WITH A SOLUTION.
COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS. UH, FIRST I WANNA RECOGNIZE THE TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF EFFORT THAT HAS BROUGHT US TO WHERE WE ARE, UM, BOTH BY THE SDR TASK FORCE AND CITY STAFF IN, UM, HELPING CRAFT THIS, UM, AND NEGOTIATING OVER A VERY LONG PERIOD OF TIME.
AND FOR FOLKS SPEAKING TO THE COUNCIL SINCE BEF LONG BEFORE THE SDR TASK FORCE WAS FORMED.
UM, THAT SAID, UH, SEVERAL GOOD POINTS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP ALREADY.
I WON'T BELABOR THOSE OR REPEAT THEM.
UM, I AGREE THERE'S SOME LANGUAGE THAT COULD BE TIGHTENED UP.
I'LL SAY THAT WHEN IT COMES TO THE TERM, UH, CRIMINAL CONDUCT, THE DEFINITION OF CLINICAL CRIMINAL CONDUCT, UH, I BELIEVE IT'S WORTH DIFFERENTIATING.
UH, SIMILAR TO HOW WE'VE DONE IN HOW WE'VE DEFINED NUISANCE INCIDENTS, UH, THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, UH, NOISE COMPLAINTS AND LEAVING YOUR TRASH BIN OUT A DAY LONGER THAN YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO.
SO I THINK RECOGNIZING THAT DIFFERENCE, UH, FOR CRIMINAL CONDUCT IS, UH, WORTH IT.
COUNCILMAN HOLMAN? UH, I ALSO AGREE WITH A LOT OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE ALREADY MADE.
MARIA, I DON'T KNOW IF, IF AN EXISTING BOARD COULD MAYBE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT OR SOMEBODY THAT, SO WE'RE NOT CREATING A NEW, BUT I AGREE WITH YOUR COMMENT.
UM, I WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE JUST THAT THE, THE REALLY APPRECIATE THE PEOPLE THAT CAME OUT WITH CONSTRUCTIVE FEEDBACK.
UM, HEARD FROM A LOT OF HOSTS, ESPECIALLY ON SITE, WHO GENUINELY I CAN TELL, WANNA PLAY BY THE RULES, WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND THE RULES, WANT CLARIFICATION.
AND THAT'S REASSURING TO ME THAT, UM, AND ALSO FROM, FROM THOSE WHO REALLY DON'T WANT STR, BUT WE'LL BEGRUDGINGLY SUPPORT IF WE CAN, YOU KNOW, DO DO IT TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY.
SO REALLY APPRECIATE, UM, ALL THE COMPROMISE THERE.
AND ALL THE, UM, THE REQUEST FOR THE CLARIFICATION, WHICH WE, WE WILL WORK ON, UH, AGREE THAT WE NEED VIDEO CAMERAS ON SITE.
I DID NOT AGREE WITH ONLY HAVING VIDEO CAMERAS ON SITE IF THERE'S NOT AN ONSITE HOST, BECAUSE I THINK THEN IT COULD GET VERY, YOU KNOW, WHEN IS THE HOST IN TOWN OR OUT OF TOWN? AND I DON'T KNOW, I THINK MAYBE EVEN IF IT'S A RING CAMERA OR SOMETHING TO KIND OF CONTROL WHO'S COMING AND GOING, I'D BE OPEN TO FEEDBACK ON THAT.
BUT THAT, THAT WAS ONE COMMENT THAT MADE ME A LITTLE UNCOMFORTABLE.
IT SEEMED LIKE A LOOPHOLE THAT COULD EASILY BE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF.
NOT THAT I'M SAYING ANYONE IN THIS ROOM WOULD DO THAT, BUT SOMEONE MIGHT.
SO I JUST APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S, UM, PARTICIPATION AND INPUT AND, UM, HOPE WE'RE GETTING TO WHERE WE, WHERE WE NEED TO BE.
I JUST JUST HAVE THREE THINGS.
UM, UH, THE FIRST, UH, AND, AND THIS MAY BE WE WANNA PUT IT ON NEXT, UH, MEETING FOR CONSIDERATION.
WE'VE GOT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT.
OUR CITIZENS GOT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT AND, AND I THINK THE, HOW WE CAN DO IT TO MAKE IT THE, THE SMOOTHEST IMPLEMENTATION REGISTRATION.
SO I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE EXTEND OUR CURRENT, UH, MORATORIUM ON NEW S STRS FOR AT LEAST ANOTHER YEAR WHILE WE IMPLEMENT THE REGISTRATION TO GIVE IT TIME TO GET IN PLACE AND, AND WORK THE BUGS OUT.
UH, THE OTHER TWO THINGS ARE, UH, BASED ON THINGS I HEARD FROM, FROM THE RESIDENTS TONIGHT, AND I THINK COUNCILMAN RICK DELEY HAD ALREADY TOUCHED ON IT.
BUT, UH, I THINK THE HAVING A, UH, AN EXEMPTION FOR, UH, ONSITE, UH, MANAGEMENT, UH, WHO INITIATED NINE ONE ONE CALL BECAUSE YOU HAVE A, A RULY UNRULY, UH, LET'S SAY GUEST, UH, SHOULD NOT, YOU KNOW, COUNT, YOU KNOW, AGAINST THAT, THAT PROPERTY.
SO I THINK THAT WAS A GOOD POINT.
UH, AND THEN KIND OF A, I GUESS MAYBE A, A, UH, CARROT ON THE STICK TO, TO INCENTIVIZE, UH, THERE WAS A COMMENT MADE ABOUT, UH, WELL, WHAT HAPPENS IF, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, WE SELL OUR PROPERTY AND WE ALREADY HAVE RESERVATIONS, AND MAYBE THAT'S WHY ONE PERSON WANTS TO
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BUY IT BECAUSE THEY SEE THE REVENUE STREAM.I WOULD SAY THAT WE PROBABLY WOULD WANT TO LOOK AT HAVING, UH, SOME TYPE OF A TRANSFER GRACE PERIOD CONTINGENT ON IN ORDER TO QUALIFY FOR THAT GRACE PERIOD, WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE.
UH, THAT IT WOULD ONLY APPLY TO A PROPERTY THAT HAD HAD NO OTHER VIOLATIONS OR COMPLAINTS WITHIN A 12 MONTH PERIOD.
AND OTHER THAN THAT, THAT'S IT.
AND AGAIN, I WANNA REITERATE, I REALLY APPRECIATE, UH, THE WORK THAT, UH, THE SDR TASK FORCE, UH, HAVE DONE.
COREY, I KNOW YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU WERE INVOLVED IN THAT AS WELL AS SOME OTHER FOLKS HERE.
UH, A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT WENT INTO IT, AND IT WORKED OUT, I THINK, MUCH BETTER THAN WE, WE HAD PROBABLY IMAGINED, UH, AND STAFF AS WELL, ALL THE WORK THAT THEY PUT INTO IT TIME.
SO WE'RE GONNA MAKE THIS WORK.
UH, WE'RE GONNA GONNA BE, I GUESS, VOTING ON IT, UH, THE FINAL
SO ALL THESE COMMENTS HAVE BEEN VERY HELPFUL FOR ME.
AND I THANK TO THE, THE REST OF THE STAFF TOO.
AND I THINK WHEN WE GET THIS TOGETHER, IT'S GONNA BE, MAY NOT BE PERFECT, NOTHING EVER IS, BUT WE'RE CERTAINLY GOING TO BE, UH, PUTTING SOMETHING IN PLACE THAT WILL BE BASED ON CITIZEN INPUT THAT WE'VE HAD AND, AND, AND HARD DATA THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, A YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF, TWO YEARS AGO.
SO I WANNA THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR THE INPUT THEY PUT IN.
ALL OF YOU WHO SPOKE, CURTIS, I HOPE YOU GOT SOME OF THAT DOWN OR ALL OF IT.
BUT, UM, WE, WE LIKE YOU TO, TO SPEND THE NEXT FEW DAYS GOING THROUGH THAT.
I'D LIKE LEGAL TO GO THROUGH WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IS, YOU KNOW, LEGALLY ADVISABLE AND WHAT ISN'T.
AND, AND THEN, UH, GET BACK WITH, WITH COUNSEL AND, AND TALK ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES OF, OF, UH, PIVOTING AND ADJUSTMENT THAT THAT MAY BE INCLUDED IN, IN THE ORDINANCE.
DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH DIRECTION FOR, FOR YOU GUYS TO KIND OF MUDDY THROUGH THAT? COUNSEL, YOU GAVE A LOT OF DIRECTION.
SO THERE, THERE'S A LOT TO THIS.
SO I, I COUNTED AT LEAST 11 ISSUES FOR US TO TAKE UP AND LOOK AT.
SO THE, AND SOME OF THESE ARE VERY SUBSTANTIAL AND MAY HAVE CONSEQUENCES ELSEWHERE WITHIN THIS.
SO WE ARE GONNA NEED TO DO A LEGAL REVIEW.
WE WILL NEED TO DO, YES, SOME PRACTICAL ENFORCEMENT DISCUSSION, UH, TO LOOK AT THESE.
UH, LET ME SAY THAT AN APPEAL TO SOMEBODY OTHER THAN THE CITY MANAGER IS WOE, UH, SUPPORTED BY ME,
I HAVE NO PROBLEM, UH, WITH THAT WHATSOEVER, SO WHOLLY SUPPORTED.
UM, SO I CAN SAY THAT ONE CAN CAN BE IN THERE FOR SURE.
UM, BUT LET, LET US WORK ON THIS AND THEN CIRCLE BACK.
I DO THINK THAT THAT COUNCIL AND HEARING A COUPLE OF ITEMS, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE COUNCIL ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION ON FUTURE AGENDAS.
I THINK COUNCILMAN SMITH'S, UH, DISCUSSION ON AN EXTENSION, UM, IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, AGAIN, I HEARD FROM ONE COUNCIL MEMBER.
I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT Y'ALL OUGHT TO UH, DISCUSS.
NEXT ITEM IS CONSENT AND REGULAR AGENDAS.
ANY ITEM, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE.
AND THE LAST ONE IS COUNCIL ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION AND FUTURE AGENDAS.
YEAH, I THINK WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED, I'D LIKE TO HAVE THAT, UH, DISCUSSION ADDED BEFORE WE FINALIZE ON EXTENDING OUR ONE YEAR MORATORIUM.
SO I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND TO, UM, OR DEB, TWO PEOPLE TO PUT THAT ON THE, THE FUTURE AGENDAS CORRECT.