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[PRELIMINARY OPEN MEETING]
ATTIC DECLARE THE PLAINTIFF CITY COUNCILS CONVENED AN OPEN SESSION THAT ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF COUNCIL MEMBER HOMER.THE COUNCIL WILL NOW RECESS AND EXECUTIVE SESSION AND TRAINING MADE TO HOLD A CLOSED EXECUTIVE MEETING PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF VERNON'S TEXAS CODE'S ANNOTATED GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 5 51.
THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AUTHORITY CONTAINED IN SECTION 5 51 0 71 TO CONSULT WITH THE ATTORNEY AND RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE AND DISCUSS LITIGATION SECTION 5 51 0 87 TO DISCUSS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MATTERS.
THANK YOU IS RECONVENED AND OPEN SESSION AND THAT ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.
OUR FIRST ITEM ON THE PRELIMINARY AGENDA IS CONSIDERATION AND ACTION RESULTING FROM THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.
NEXT ITEM, RENTAL IMPLEMENTATION TIMELINE.
CHRISTINA, GOOD EVENING MAYOR, COUNCIL AND EXECUTIVES.
I'M HERE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT OUR SHORT TERM RENTAL STUDY AND, UH, HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU ABOUT ITS IMPLEMENTATION.
SO JUST A QUICK UPDATE AND REFRESHER ON THIS GRAPHIC THAT I THINK YOU HAVE SEEN MANY, MANY TIMES
UM, SO THIS ISSUE'S BEEN ONGOING FOR SOME TIME.
UM, WE STARTED WITH REGULAR UPDATES AT THE CITY COUNCIL RESEARCH OF THE ISSUE.
UM, THEN THE COUNCIL ADOPTED INTERIM MEASURES AND THOSE ARE STILL IN EFFECT.
WE'VE BEEN RECENTLY IN THIS OUTREACH AND DATA COLLECTION PROCESS WORKING WITH THE TASK FORCE, ASSESSING THE EFFECTIVENESS OF OUR CURRENT TOOLS AND ARE VERY CLOSE TO A RECOMMENDATION ON PERMANENT MEASURES.
AND THEN THAT'S LEADING INTO WHAT WE HOPE WILL BE ADOPTION OF PERMANENT MEASURES AND RECOMMENDATION OF PERMANENT MEASURES.
SO HOW WE GET BETWEEN KIND OF STAGES THREE AND FOUR IS WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DISCUSS.
OR I CAN MOVE OVER IF THAT IS THAT HELPFUL TOO.
THE FINAL STUDY REPORT IS EXPECTED.
WE ARE MEETING WITH THE TASK FORCE THIS WEDNESDAY.
THAT WILL BE, UM, WE'RE LOOKING THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY PUBLISHED A DRAFT REPORT THAT'S OUT AND THEY'LL BE REVIEWING THAT WITH THE TASK FORCE WEDNESDAY NIGHT.
THEY WILL BE EDITING IT LIVE IN THEIR MEETING AND WITH THE ANTICIPATION TO ADOPT SOME VERSION OF THAT REPORT AT THEIR MEETING.
SO THAT WILL INCLUDE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WILL GO FORWARD TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
AND THEN OUT OF THAT WILL COME RECOMMENDATIONS FOR PERMANENT MEASURES, UM, FOR DEVELOPMENT REGULATION UPDATES AS WELL AS A REGISTRATION PROGRAM.
NOW ONE OF THE KEY ELEMENTS HERE IS THAT THAT REGISTRATION APPLICATION DEADLINE WILL TAKE SOME TIME TO ADOPT.
SO WE THINK APPROXIMATELY THREE MONTHS AFTER ADOPTION, WE WILL ACTUALLY HAVE THE DEADLINE FOR PEOPLE TO REGISTER.
SO WE'LL NEED TIME TO ROLL IT OUT TO ADVERTISE AND, UH, JUST GIVE PEOPLE TIME TO APPLY.
SO WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE IS MARCH 19TH, WE CAN BRING FORWARD TO YOU THE FINAL REPORT, SUN SETTING OF THE TASK FORCE AND POTENTIALLY A REGISTRATION PROGRAM THAT'S COMPLIANT WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE TASK FORCE.
THEN THAT WOULD ALSO ALLOW THROUGH MARCH US TO WORK THE REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS THROUGH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WITH A HEARING AT PNZ IN APRIL.
AND THEN THOSE AMENDMENTS TO MOVE FORWARD TO COUNCIL AT THE END OF APRIL.
ALTERNATIVELY, WE HAVE AN OPTION WHERE YOU STILL GET YOUR FINAL REPORT FROM THE TASK FORCE IN MARCH WITH THE SUN SETTING OF THE TASK FORCE.
AND THEN AGAIN, ZONING AMENDMENTS STILL ON THE SAME TIMELINE.
HOWEVER, THE COUNCIL WOULD HEAR THE ZONING AMENDMENTS AND THE REGISTRATION PROGRAM AT THE SAME TIME.
WHAT THAT MEANS IS JUST WITH THE EARLIER ADOPTION OF REGISTRATION,
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YOU LET THAT THREE MONTH TIMELINE START TICKING A LITTLE EARLIER VERSUS OPTION TWO, THE THREE MONTH TIMELINE FOR IMPLEMENTATION STARTS TICKING A LITTLE LATER.IT'S ABOUT A MONTH DIFFERENCE.
SO ONE OPTION, IT IT'S EARLIER, ONE OPTION, IT'S LATER, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S PROS AND CONS WITH EITHER ONE.
SO WE'RE HERE TO ASK FOR YOUR FEEDBACK AS TO IF ONE OR THE OTHER IS MORE FAVORABLE TO THE COUNCIL.
THAT'S THE END OF MY PRESENTATION AND WE'RE, UH, LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK.
I THINK WE HAVE A COUPLE OF SPEAKERS, UM, BEFORE WE HAVE DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM.
THE FIRST SPEAKER IS GREG PATILLO.
MY NAME IS GREG PATILLO, A PLANO RESIDENT FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS.
UNIVERSAL KIDS RESORT IS THE LATEST EXAMPLE OF FRISCO'S COMMITMENT TO ATTRACTING AND ACCOMMODATING VISITORS.
FRISCO'S MAYOR CHANEY NOTED THAT WITH THE ADDITION OF THE PARK, HE EXPECTS THE YEARLY VISITORS IN FRISCO TO GROW FROM ABOUT 7 MILLION TO 10 MILLION.
MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, IS PLANO GOING TO DONATE ITS CRITICALLY NEEDED HOUSING INVENTORY TO FRISCO TO SUPPORT THEIR TOURISM INDUSTRY WHEN THERE ARE HOTELS THAT WERE BUILT AND CONTINUE TO BE BUILT IN PLANO FOR JUST THAT PURPOSE? A DONATION TO THE FRISCO THAT SUCCEEDED IN ATTRACTING THE STONE BRIER CENTER DEVELOPMENT OVER PLANO, DELIVERING THE DEATH BLOW TO MALL RETAIL DEVELOPMENTS IN PLANO, THE FRISCO THAT RETRACTED ITS BOND OFFERING THAT WOULD JOIN PLANO AND MCKINNEY'S EFFORTS TO BUILD A WORLD-CLASS PERFORMANCE HALL.
OPTING TO CLAIM THAT FOR THEMSELVES, THE FRISCO THAT CLAIMS ALL 2% OF THE AVAILABLE LOCAL SALES TAX FOR THEMSELVES, CONTENT WITH ALLOWING PLANO TO SERVE AS THE NEAREST DFW MASS TRANSIT OPTION FOR THEIR RESIDENTS.
THE FRISCO THAT IS WITHIN THREE SQUARE MILES IN LAND SIZES PLANO, BUT WITH 16% OF THEIR LAND AVAILABLE VERSUS PLANOS 4% HAS A TREMENDOUS ADVANTAGE IN MITIGATING THE IMPACT OF LOSING HOUSING INVENTORY TO THE SHORT TERM RENTAL INDUSTRY.
MY RECOMMENDATION TO YOU IS LET'S GET IN THE GAME AND COMPETE, SEIZE THE OPPORTUNITY IN FRONT OF YOU TO ENFORCE AND STRENGTHEN THE CURRENT ZONING THAT DOES NOT PERMIT SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS OFFER PROSPECTIVE BUSINESSES AND HOME BUYERS WITH WHAT IS SURE TO BECOME THE HOLY GRAIL OF RESIDENTIAL REAL ESTATE.
AN OASIS WHERE A FAMILY CAN BUY A HOME WITH THE ASSURANCE THAT THE HOME NEXT DOOR WILL NEVER BECOME.
THE HOTEL SELLERS AND REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONALS SERVING THE PLANO MARKET CAN OFFER PROSPECTIVE BUYERS SOMETHING THAT IS NOT AVAILABLE IN ANY OTHER CITY NORTH OF DALLAS.
AND IT ANSWERS THE QUESTION, WHEN IS A 30-YEAR-OLD HOME IN PLANO MORE DESIRABLE THAN A NEW HOME IN FRISCO, WHERE THEY WILL BE ONE FOR SALE SIGN AWAY FROM HAVING A CONSTANT FLOW OF TRANSIENTS IN AND OUT OF THE HOME NEXT DOOR, OR THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD PLANO HOME VALUES WILL CONTINUE TO INCREASE, BUT NATURALLY FROM LOCATION DESIRABILITY RATHER THAN ARTIFICIALLY FROM ABDUCTION IN INVENTORY, WHICH ALSO HAPPENS TO INCREASE RENT PRICES, WHICH CONTRIBUTES TO THE NEED FOR INCOME ASSISTANCE, HOMELESSNESS, AND HURTS OUR SMALL BUSINESSES BECAUSE OF BOTH LOWERS THE DISCRETIONARY INCOME OF THE CUSTOMERS THEY THEY HAVE AND FORCES THEM TO OFFER HIGHER WAGES AND TO HIRE AND RETAIN STAFF.
MY CHALLENGE TO YOU ARE THE PLANO LEADERS AND REPRESENTATIVES SITTING ACROSS FROM ME TONIGHT GOING TO PROTECT OUR SAFETY, OUR QUALITY OF LIFE, OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, OUR SCHOOLS, OUR BUSINESSES, AND THE PROPERTY VALUES OF ALL HOMEOWNERS EQUALLY.
OR WILL YOU ALLOW PLANO TO ONCE AGAIN GET PLAYED BY FRISCO? THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING AND YOUR EFFORTS TO ENSURE PLANO CONTINUES TO BE THE CITY OF EXCELLENCE.
ENRIQUE RAMIREZ, ENRIQUE RAMIREZ.
SO WE, WE ARE PRESENTED WITH A, A COUPLE OF OPTIONS IN REGARD TO, UH, THE PERMANENT MEASURES OPTIONS.
UM, I WAS GONNA OPEN IT UP TO THE COUNCIL IN REGARD TO THEIR, UH, PREFERENCE.
THE REASON BEING THAT, UH, I REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR, A LONG TIME AGO WHEN WE KIND OF STARTED THIS PROCESS, THERE WAS TALK ABOUT DOING REGISTRATION UPFRONT OR AT THE SAME TIME AS THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
AND WE DECIDED, EXCUSE ME, WE DECIDED AT THAT TIME TO WAIT ON REGISTRATION AND WORK THROUGH THE ZONING PROCESS.
YOU KNOW, NOW WE'RE SO CLOSE TO FINISHING THAT PROCESS.
YOU KNOW, OPTION ONE AND OPTION TWO ARE ONLY ONE MONTH DIFFERENT ON, UH, ON THE TIMING FOR THE REGISTRATION ORDINANCE AND OPTION TWO PRESERVES WHAT I THINK WE WERE KIND OF MOVING TOWARD LAST YEAR WHEN WE SAID LET'S WAIT ON REGISTRATION AND, AND YOU KNOW, TACKLE THAT AT THE SAME TIME AS THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
SO I PERSONALLY WOULDN'T GIVE THAT UP OVER A ONE MONTH DIFFERENCE.
AND SO I WOULD, I WOULD LEAN TOWARD OPTION TWO.
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YEAH.RICK, DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS? I KNOW THIS IS, UH, WE, WE GOTTA BE SOMEWHAT PATIENT 'CAUSE WE WANT TO GET THIS RIGHT.
I MEAN, WE, WE HEARD FROM THE CITIZENS OF WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE KNOW WHAT WE CAN LEGALLY DO.
UH, I AGREE WITH, UH, COUNCILMAN RICK ELLI THAT WE NEED TO KIND OF GET THIS MOVING FORWARD.
I DO LIKE OPTION ONE THOUGH, BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'S ALMOST LIKE OPTION TWO, BUT WE'RE DOING IT, WE HAVE MORE CONSIDERATION OF REVIEWING THE ORDINANCE TO ME AND GETTING US READY TO THE NEXT STEP, WHICH IS THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO, UM, I, THAT'S WHAT I'M KIND OF GETTING AT NOW.
I'D RATHER DO IT IN OPTION ONE AND GET IT EARLY AND THEN HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN WE CAN HAVE REVISIONS FROM THE PUBLIC HEARING IF THAT'S THE CASE AND MOVING FORWARD.
BUT AGAIN, LIKE WHAT ANTHONY SAYS OR COUNCILMAN RICK ELLI SAYS, WE CAN DO IT EITHER WAY.
SO IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER TO ME, BUT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
MAYOR PROTO, I THINK, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY LEGAL CONSIDERATIONS FOR DOING ONE OR THE OTHER.
THAT WOULD REALLY ONLY BE MY, YEAH.
I'M NOT SURE I HAVE A STRONG FEELING EITHER WAY.
I MEAN, I'VE WANTED TO DO THE RENTAL REGISTRATION ALL ALONG, WHICH IS WHAT I'VE SAID, SO I'M FOR GETTING THAT GOING.
UM, BUT I DON'T HAVE A, A STRONG FEELING OF DOING IT EARLIER, LATER.
DEPUTY MEYER? I, I KIND OF LEAN TOWARDS WHAT RICK IS SAYING BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF OPINIONS AND WE KNOW THAT ANTHONY WOULD PROBABLY PROPOSE SOME CHANGES OR ANOTHER
SO, UM, I, I WOULD DEFINITELY GO WITH OPTION ONE SO THAT WE HAVE PLENTY OF TIME IF THERE'S ANY MODIFICATION THAT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED, UM, THAT WOULD GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME SINCE THE, I GUESS OUR, UM, OUR SUNSET ON THE, ON THE BAN IS COMING UP IN MAY.
SO WE, WE PROBABLY WANT SOMETHING IN PLACE PRIOR TO THAT.
COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS? UH, I'M IN FAVOR OF OPTION TWO FOR THE VERY REASON THAT WE MAY WANT TO CONSIDER CHANGES WHERE BOTH THE ZONING AND THE REGISTRATION MAY CONTAIN ELEMENTS THAT HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED IN TANDEM.
AND IF WE'VE ALREADY PUT THE REGISTRATION TO BED, WE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE ABLE TO DO THAT WHILE WE'RE CONSIDERING THE ZONING.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT HYPOTHETICAL CIRCUMSTANCES THERE WOULD BE WHERE WE WOULD NEED TO CONSIDER THEM IN TANDEM.
I HAVEN'T READ ANY OF IT, BUT I SEE THAT POSSIBILITY.
I DIDN'T REALLY FEEL STRONGLY ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
I'M SURE THAT WE WILL GET FEEDBACK FROM PEOPLE ON WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO THEM.
ALRIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH.
UH, I'M PRETTY FLEXIBLE WITH EITHER OPTION.
I, I THINK IT PROBABLY PERHAPS IS A LITTLE MORE WEIGHT TO DOING OPTION TWO.
UH, SIMPLY BECAUSE FROM, FROM WHAT I KNOW TODAY, OUR, OUR STUDY, UH, GROUP HAS REALLY PUT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT INTO THIS AND I THINK WE'RE GONNA GET A LOT OF GOOD DETAIL INFORMATION.
SO I THINK IT, IT MIGHT BE A TAD RUSHING IT IF WE TRY TO ACT UPON SOMETHING AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE GET THAT INFORMATION.
I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE MORE, UH, TIME FOR US TO, TO ABSORB THAT.
AND I DON'T THINK, AGAIN, WAITING AN EXTRA, YOU KNOW, MONTH IS GONNA CREATE THAT MUCH
BUT I WOULD ALSO SAY I WOULD LIKE US TO CONSIDER, UH, PERHAPS EXTENDING, UH, OUR, UH, TEMPORARY BAN, UH, AS PART OF THIS PROCESS FOR ANOTHER YEAR BECAUSE LET'S GIVE THIS, UH, REGISTRATION TIME TO GET ENACTED AND GOING BEFORE EVERYTHING'S OPENED BACK UP AGAIN.
CHRISTINA, IS THERE ANY PREFERENCE FOR, UH, PLANNING DEPARTMENT IN REGARD TO HOW, HOW THIS ALL FLOWS IN MAKING SURE YOU MEET ALL THE DEADLINES THAT, THAT WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT? I THINK WE'RE PREPARED TO GO WITH EITHER, EITHER OPTION, EITHER WAY.
CAN I JUST SUPPLEMENT WHAT I JUST SAID? SURE.
MR. MAYOR, THE REASON WHY I THINK OPTION ONE IS GOOD IS BECAUSE THEN WE GET THE CONSIDERATION, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO ADOPT UNTIL WE HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW IT SOME MORE, TO DO MORE REVISION.
SO OPTION TWO BASICALLY WOULDN'T GIVE US THAT, UM, CONSIDERATION UNTIL MUCH LATER IN THE MONTH.
AND I'D RATHER HAVE IT EARLIER SO THAT WE CAN DO MORE HA YOU KNOW, MORE HAGGLING AND INVESTIGATION OR TO REVISION IF THERE'S ANY NEED FOR REVISION EARLIER.
THAT THAT'S THE, THE ONLY REASON I, I I'M NOT, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, ADOPT A SHORT TERM RENTAL REGISTRATION PROGRAM PRIOR TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING.
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OF THE THINGS THAT WE COULD DO ON THE 19TH IS DO A PRELIMINARY OPEN BRIEFING ON WHAT THEIR RENTAL REGISTRATION PROGRAM KEY POINTS ARE AND THEN BRING BACK FOR ADOPTION ON THE 22ND BOTH, UH, ELEMENTS.SO, UM, I THINK SHARING THAT WITH THE PUBLIC OBVIOUSLY IS CRITICAL.
IT'LL BE SHARED WITH THE TASK FORCE, BUT IF IT HELPS KIND OF SPLIT THE DIFFERENCE, WE'RE HAPPY TO BRING BACK A PRESENTATION ON THE 19TH.
UH, THAT'LL BE, UH, UH, KIND OF THE, THE KEY BULLET POINTS, UH, FOR A SHORTER PRESENTATION ON THE 19TH, BUT THAT WAY THEY'RE PUBLIC AND THEN WE CAN BRING BACK THE, UH, UH, BOTH FOR ADOPTION ON THE 22ND AND THAT'LL ALLOW SOME TIME FOR, UH, MARINATING IF, IF YOU WILL, UH, BETWEEN THE TWO.
ALRIGHT, WE WE'RE GOOD ON THAT.
ITEM THREE, HERITAGE PRESERVATION GRANT, PROGRAM OPERATIONS, AND MAINTENANCE FUNDING.
I'M ERIC HILL, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR PLANNING.
I THINK TURN YOUR MIC UP FOR CHRISTINA, SEE IF HE CAN TURN IT UP TOWARDS YOU.
ALRIGHT, WELL I'M HERE WITH PERHAPS THE LONGEST TITLED ITEM OF THE EVENING, BUT YEAH, WE ARE, UM, HERE TO PRESENT SOME INFORMATION ON THE HERITAGE GRANT PROGRAM.
SO IN 2010, COUNCIL ESTABLISHED SOME PROGRAM RESTRICTIONS ON O AND M FUNDING.
THAT INFORMATION IS IN THIS CHART BEFORE YOU, THOSE RESTRICTIONS HAVE REMAINED IN PLACE, UH, UNTIL A SITUATION LAST YEAR.
SO LAST YEAR THE NORTH TEXAS MASONIC HISTORICAL MUSEUM AND LIBRARY REQUESTED AND RECEIVED SOME O AND M FUNDS.
UH, SINCE THAT TIME, THE MASONIC LIBRARY AND OTHER RECIPIENTS HAVE INQUIRED ABOUT FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES.
THIS YEAR, STAFF ANTICIPATES A MILLION DOLLARS WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR GRANT FUNDS.
UH, IN PREVIOUS YEARS, MOST PREVIOUS YEARS THERE'S BEEN $800,000 AVAILABLE AND OF THAT 570,000 OR 71% HAS BEEN ALLOCATED FOR O AND M.
SO WE'RE SEEKING SOME FEEDBACK FROM YOU SHOULD PROGRAM RESTRICTIONS BE AMENDED TO MAKE O AND M FUNDING AVAILABLE TO ADDITIONAL ORGANIZATIONS? AND AGAIN, O AND M WILL BE DIRECTLY TIED TO A SPECIFIC PROGRAM, PROJECT OR EVENT.
IF SO, SHOULD THE CURRENT CAP ON O AND M FUNDING FOR THE THREE ORGANIZATIONS BE RAISED? AND IF SO, BY HOW MUCH? SO WE'RE HERE SEEKING SOME FEEDBACK FROM YOU ON THAT AND WE'RE AVAILABLE SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
MEMBER HORN? UH, ONE OF THE ONES WE LOOKED AT, I, I THOUGHT LAST YEAR ALSO WAS THE, THE TEXAS POOL.
I, I KNEW THAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR SOME O AND A FUNDING TO HELP OFFSET THEIR COSTS AND SEEING THAT IT WAS PROBABLY, MAYBE NOT IN THE SAME VEIN AS AS THE, UH, MASONIC LODGE, BUT STILL IT'S GOT SOME HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE OF WHERE IT'S LOCATED, WHEN IT WAS CONSTRUCTED.
AND PRETTY MUCH EVERYBODY THAT'S IN THIS ROOM HAS BEEN SWIMMING THERE.
SO IS, ARE WE JUST GONNA BE RESTRICTING IT JUST TO THE MASONIC LODGE AND IN INCREASING THAT TO THAT 1 MILLION? OR DO WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO INCLUDE THE TEXAS POOL? I THINK THAT'S THE QUESTION THAT WE'RE ASKING IS, UM, SHOULD WE MAKE IT AVAILABLE TO ADDITIONAL ORGANIZATIONS INCLUDING TEXAS POOL COUNCIL MEMBER? I THINK FROM A POLICY DECISION COUNCIL MEMBER, SORRY, MAYOR.
FROM A POLICY DECISION, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS IS THAT WE HAVE A COUPLE OF EXCEPTIONS AND I GUESS WHAT WE'RE ASKING FROM A POLICY PERSPECTIVE IS, IS THAT, IS THAT THE, THE RULE THAT COUNCIL WOULD LIKE US TO GO WITH IS CONSIDERING O AND M AS PART OF THAT AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE GENERAL, UH, QUESTION.
I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, I, UH, ASK THE STAFF TO RUN SOME NUMBERS, UH, BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN CAPPED THE WAY IT IS, UH, FOR A LONG TIME, FOR 15 YEARS, UH, SINCE FISCAL YEAR OH NINE, UH, 10.
AND, UH, JUST TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH THE REST OF THE COUNCIL.
UH, INFLATION DURING THAT PERIOD HAS BEEN 46%, YOU KNOW, SO WHEN THESE NUMBERS WERE FIRST SET, YOU KNOW, A A A DOLLAR, UH, IS, WELL I WAS GONNA SAY IT'S WORTH 46% LESS, BUT THAT'S NOT QUITE RIGHT.
BASICALLY THERE'S BEEN 46% INFLATION, UH, SINCE THESE CAPS WERE SET.
UH, BUT THE CAPS ARE STILL WHERE THEY ARE.
UM, ALSO THAT YEAR HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX REVENUES WERE A LITTLE OVER 4 MILLION DURING THE CURRENT YEAR.
THEY'RE A LITTLE OVER 14 MILLION.
SO I MEAN, WE'VE SEEN A TREMENDOUS INCREASE IN HOTEL OCCUPANCY, TAX REVENUES, UM, BUT WE HAVEN'T SEEN AS MUCH OF AN INCREASE IN, UH, BOTH OUR CULTURAL ARTS AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION GRANTS.
AND SO I THINK THAT I'D BE IN FAVOR OF RAISING THE CAP.
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE TIME HAS PASSED, INFLATION HAS OCCURRED, HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX REVENUES HAVE MORE THAN TRIPLED.
AND I WOULD ALSO BE IN FAVOR OF ALLOWING ADDITIONAL ORGANIZATIONS TO APPLY FOR, UH, UH, O AND M FUNDING.
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ANYBODY ELSE? I LIKE YOUR ANALYTICS.I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THAT AS WELL.
IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT? OKAY.
DO WE HAVE PARAMETERS SET IN PLACE OR, OR IS THAT SOMETHING WE NEED TO COME BACK AND WE CAN, WE CAN COME BACK AND DISCUSS THAT WITH YOU.
ROBERT PINNELL, YOU THOUGHT THIS WAS GONNA BE HARD, DIDN'T YOU? ROBERT
OKAY, MR. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, CITY STAFF, SENIOR OFFICERS AND ALL.
MS. HENDERSON, I'M STILL ROBERT F PINNELL, A PLAN OF RESIDENT OF OVER 40 YEARS AND THE REPRESENTATIVE AND CURRENTLY SECRETARY, DIRECTOR OF THE, UM, NORTH TEXAS MASONIC HISTORICAL MUSEUM AND LIBRARY.
MR. MAYOR, MR. CITY MANAGER, YOU DO NOT PAY YOUR CITY PLANNING STAFF ENOUGH.
THEY HAVE PUT UP WITH ME SINCE SEPTEMBER THE 23RD OF 2022 ON THIS ISSUE.
THEY'VE BEEN EXTREMELY POSITIVE, VERY PROFESSIONAL, AND MOST OF ALL ALWAYS AVAILABLE.
AND WE HAVE STRUGGLED THROUGH THIS SITUATION, WHICH WAS UNTENABLE TO THEM.
I WILL SAY THAT HAVING BEEN A FORMER, SOMEWHAT SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSMAN, HAVING SAID THAT, I HAVE MADE MY CASE CLEAR TO YOU ALL.
YOU'VE SEEN IT IN WRITING AND ESPECIALLY TO DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TIM, UH, TOO, COUNCILMAN RICK ELLI AND ALSO, UH, COUNCILMAN SMITH HAS HEARD SOME OF IT, UH, PRIVATELY IN ONE OF OUR PRESENTATIONS.
I HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT PERSONALLY WITH BRIAN SHEPPEY, WHO WAS THE HERITAGE COMMISSIONER CHAIRMAN DURING 2009, 2010 ON WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED.
MR. MAYOR, WE HAVE DONE OUR HOMEWORK.
THIS IS NOT PROBABLY ABOUT THE FOURTH OF MY, OF WHAT I HAVE IN MY FILE AT HOME THAT HAVE GONE OUT.
HAVING SAID THAT, I ASKED SHEPP, WELL, WHAT DO YOU THINK SHOULD BE DONE? AND HE HAD WRITTEN A MEMO TO THE MAYOR THEN, WHO I THINK WAS DWYER, AND HE SAYS, WE NEED TO GET OFF THIS O AND M THING.
WE NEED TO TIE THIS TO THE PROJECTS THAT THE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO DO TO PRESERVE THE HERITAGE OF PLANO.
AND I SAID, HOW WOULD YOU DO THAT? HE SAID, MAKE IT BLOCK GRANTS.
FOR EXAMPLE, THIS IS AN EXTREME, AND I HOPE IT DOESN'T OFFEND ANYONE.
MUSEUM AND LIBRARY AT THIS MOMENT IS PERMITTED TO USE 20 SECONDS.
OUR WATER BILL AGAINST THE HERITAGE COMMISSION GRANT.
THE ONLY THING WE USE OUR WATER FOR IS TO FLUSH OUR RESTROOMS AND WASH OUR HANDS, WHICH MIGHT BE A NICE THING TO DO, BUT THE PEOPLE UP IN THE BACK UP HERE WITH TEXAS POOLS NEEDS THAT WATER FOR SOMETHING ELSE.
SO I RECOMMEND YOU MIGHT CHECK WITH REP, UH, UH, MR. SHEPPEY AND FULL DISCLOSURE, AND I'LL CLOSE.
SHEPPEY WAS THE CHAIRMAN, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, HE WAS ALSO DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME AND MY MEMORY FAILS, UH, A DIRECTOR ON THE MUSEUM AND LIBRARY AND LATER DURING THE YEAR OR A COUPLE YEARS LATER BECAME THE PRESIDENT.
YOU MIGHT SAY HE MIGHT BE BIASED.
NO, I SAY HE WOULD BE FAIR BECAUSE HE WAS VERY FAIR WITH ME AND I JUST OFFER HIS NAME AS A SOURCE THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONTACT TO SEE HIS IDEAS.
BUT MS. DAY, YOUR GROUP HAS DONE A HECK OF A JOB WITH ME AND I APPRECIATE IT AND I HOPE WE CAN GET THIS SETTLED.
HANNAH MOVES WHILE SHE MAKES HER WAY DOWN.
WE AGREE WITH OUR, ABOUT THE CONTEXT OF OUR PLANNING STAFF AND THE CHARACTERIZATION.
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I'D JUST LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THE WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE AND FOR THE TEXAS POOL TO BE CONSIDERED, UM, IN THE FUNDING FOR OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE.UM, I'VE BEEN THE LIFEGUARD DIRECTOR FOR THE TEXAS POOL FOR SEVEN YEARS, SO I'M VERY INVOLVED IN THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS COSTS AND FUNDING.
SO, UM, WE HAVE BEEN A PART OF THE HISTORICAL GRANT, UM, C COMMUNITY FOR A COUPLE YEARS NOW.
AND WHAT'S, AND THAT HAS ALLOWED US TO STAY AFLOAT AND CONTINUE TO DO VERY NECESSARY RENOVATIONS TO OUR WONDERFUL HISTORIC FACILITY.
UM, WHAT PROHIBITS US FROM CONTINUING THOSE OPERATIONS AND OR CONTINUING THOSE RENOVATIONS IS OUR OPERATIONS COSTS.
SO IN THE LAST YEAR ALONE, WE SPENT CLOSE TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS JUST TO PAY LIFEGUARDS AND PAY TO KEEP OUR WATER BEAUTIFULLY BLUE AND CRYSTAL CLEAR FOR ALL OF THE WONDERFUL TOURISM THAT WE GENERATE FOR THE CITY.
UM, SO WE ARE VERY GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE INCLUDED IN THIS, UM, UM, OPERATIONS.
AND WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
OKAY, THE NEXT ITEM IS A CONSENT AND REGULAR AGENDAS.
MR. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO PULL ITEM O.
NEXT ITEM IS COUNCIL ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION AND ACTION ON FUTURE AGENDAS.
WE'LL TAKE A RECESS AND RETURN AT SEVEN O'CLOCK.