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OKAY, IT IS 7:05 PM WE APOLOGIZE FOR THE DELAY.
WE HAD A LENGTHY EXECUTIVE SESSION, UM, AS IT SAID ON THE AGENDA, DISCUSSING ST TO SOME DEGREE.
IF YOU WOULD PLEASE RISE AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL
THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING IS TO ALLOW IT TO THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER WITH 30 TOTAL MINUTES ON ITEMS OF INTEREST OR CONCERN AND NOT ON ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE CURRENT AGENDA.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MAY NOT DISCUSS THESE ITEMS, BUT MAY RESPOND WITH FACTUAL OR POLICY INFORMATION.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA.
THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY MODIFY THESE TIMES AS DEEMED NECESSARY.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? NO, WE DO NOT.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
THANK YOU.THE CONSENT AGENDA WILL BE ACTED UPON IN ONE MOTION AND CONTAINS ITEMS WHICH ARE ROUTINE AND TYPICALLY NON-CONTROVERSIAL ITEMS MAY BE REMOVED FROM THIS AGENDA FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION BY COMMISSIONERS OR STAFF.
WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO REMOVE AN ITEM FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA? I MOVE.
WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS SUBMITTED.
I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BRONSKI WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RATLIFF TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA, PLEASE VOTE THAT ITEM CARRIES.
SO, MR. MEETING, WE TAKE YOU OFF
I'VE BEEN INSTRUCTED BY STAFF THAT, UH, WELL, I THINK IT'S BETTER IF WE RESET AND DO ELECTRONIC, ISN'T THAT WHAT YOU SAID? SURE.
IT DIDN'T GO THROUGH FOR WHATEVER REASON.
CONSENT AGENDA CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO.
[1. (DS) Public Hearing – Replat, Site Plan, & Revised Site Plan: Rent-A-Center Addition, Block A, Lots 1R & 2 – Professional/general administrative office on Lot 1R and vehicle parking lot on Lot 2 on 17.2 acres located at the northwest corner of Headquarters Drive and Dominion Parkway. Zoned Commercial Employment. Projects #R2023-051, #SP2023-040, and #RSP2023-086. Applicant: 5501 Headquarters Office Partners, LP (Administrative consideration)]
YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.ITEM ONE ITEMS FOR, EXCUSE ME, ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS, UNLESS INSTRUCTED OTHERWISE BY THE CHAIR, SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER.
APPLICANTS ARE LIMITED TO A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES OF PRESENTATION TIME WITH A FIVE MINUTE REBUTTAL IF NEEDED.
REMAINING SPEAKERS ARE LIMITED TO 30 TOTAL MINUTES OF TESTIMONY TIME WITH THREE MINUTES ASSIGNED PER SPEAKER.
THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY MODIFY THESE TIMES AS DEEMED NECESSARY.
ADMINISTRATIVE CONSIDERATION ITEMS MUST BE APPROVED IF THEY MEET CITY DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
LEGISLATIVE CONSIDERATION ITEMS ARE MORE DISCRETIONARY EXCEPT AS CONSTRAINED BY LEGAL CONSIDERATIONS.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE, PUBLIC HEARING, RELA SITE PLAN AND REISE SITE PLAN.
RENT TO CENTER ADDITION BLOCK A LOTS ONE R AND TWO PROFESSIONAL GENERAL ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE ON LOT ONE R AND VEHICLE PARKING LOT ON LOT TWO ON 17.2 ACRES LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF HEADQUARTERS DRIVE AND DOMINION PARKWAY ZONE COMMERCIAL EMPLOYMENT APPLICANT IS 55 0 1 HEADQUARTERS.
THIS IS FOR ADMINISTRATIVE CONSIDERATION.
I'M PARKER MCDOWELL, PLANNER WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
STAFF RECOMMENDS THE RELA FOR APPROVAL SUBJECT TO PUBLIC WORKS ACCEPTANCE OF DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE SITE PLAN AND REVISED SITE PLAN ARE RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? MR. CAREY? I'M JUST CURIOUS WHY THE DIVISION SPEAKER MICROPHONE.
I'M, I'M JUST CURIOUS WHY THE SLOT'S BEING DIVIDED.
UH, I BELIEVE IT'S BEING, I'M ACTUALLY NOT TOO SURE 'CAUSE DON OF SEDO IS THE MAIN CASE PLANNER, BUT
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IT DID LOOK THROUGH A STAFF REPORT AND IT IS MEETING ALL THE REQUIREMENTS TO DIVIDE IT, BUT I'M UNSURE WHY RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST PARKING LOT.THE APPLICANT DESIRES TO SUBDIVIDE THE PROPERTY IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO CONVEY A PIECE OF PROPERTY, BE ABLE TO, TO CONVEY LOT TO, TO ANOTHER OWNER.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THANK YOU MR. MCDOWELL.
I THINK WE HAVE SOMEBODY AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
MR. THE INDIVIDUAL IS NOT ONLINE.
I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING THEN.
WE APPROVE THIS AS REC, UH, ITEM ONE AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.
SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION BY MR. BROSKY WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ALI TO APPROVE ITEM ONE AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.
THAT ITEM CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO.
UH, AS WE GO TO ITEM TWO, A QUESTION FOR STAFF BASED ON OUR PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS AROUND STAFF ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL OF, DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW MANY OF THESE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE IN THE FIVE THAT WOULD HAVE ACTUALLY COME TO US? DON'T KNOW.
I THINK FOUR OF THESE ITEMS, THEY'RE ALL THE RELAS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF KINGSGATE BECAUSE THAT'S RESIDENTIAL.
[2. (JK) Public Hearing – Replat: Memory Tech, Inc. Phase 1 Addition, Block A, Lot 1R – Data center on one lot on 19.0 acres located on the south side of Summit Avenue, 1,315 feet east of Jupiter Road. Zoned Research/Technology Center and located within the 190 Tollway/Plano Parkway Overlay District. Project #R2024-003. Applicant: Aligned Data Centers (DFW) Propco, LLC (Administrative consideration)]
FIVE.AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO, PUBLIC HEARING.
REPL MEMORY TECH INCORPORATED PHASE ONE EDITION BLOCK A LOT ONE R DATA CENTER ON ONE LOT ON 19.09 ACRES LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF SUMMIT AVENUE.
1,315 FEET EAST OF JUPITER ROAD.
ZONED RESEARCH TECHNOLOGY CENTER AND LOCATED WITHIN THE ONE 90 TOLLWAY PLANO PARKWAY OVERLAY DISTRICT.
APPLICANT IS ALIGNED AT DATA CENTERS, DFW, PROPCO, LLC.
THIS IS FOR ADMINISTRATIVE CONSIDERATION.
GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONERS.
MY NAME IS JOHN KIM PLANNER WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
THE ITEM IS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL.
AS SUBMITTED, I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ITEM? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SEEING NONE, I'LL OPEN AT THE PUBLIC HEARING WITH NO SPEAKERS.
NO SPEAKERS, THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I MOVE, WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.
I HAVE A MOTION BY MR. BROSKY WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ALI TO APPROVE ITEM TWO AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF, PLEASE VOTE.
AND THAT ITEM CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO.
[3. (PM) Public Hearing – Replat: Kings Gate, Block B, Lot 13R – One Single-Family Residence20 lot on 1.5 acres located on the south side of Rufford Court, 225 feet west of Old Gate Road. Zoned Single-Family Residence-20 with Specific Use Permit No. 281 for Private Street Development. Project #R2024-004. Applicant: Ashleigh Christine, LLC (Administrative consideration)]
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE, PUBLIC HEARING REPL KINGS GATE BLOCK B LOT 13 R ONE, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE 20 ON LOT LOT ON 1.5 ACRES LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF RU ROOFER COURT, 225 FEET WEST OF OLD GATE ROAD ZONE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE 20 WITH SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 2 81 FOR PRIVATE STREET DEVELOPMENT.APPLICANT IS ASHLEY, CHRISTINE, LLC.
THIS IS FOR ADMINISTRATIVE CONSIDERATION.
THIS ITEM IS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON ITEM THREE? ALL RIGHT.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? NO, WE DO NOT.
I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I MOVE, WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEM THREE AS RE I AM JUST NOT GETTING THIS RIGHT TONIGHT.
AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF, I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROSKY, I THINK WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER OLLIE TO APPROVE ITEM THREE.
YOU CAN TAKE THE REST OF THE EVENING OFF.
[4. (JK) Public Hearing – Preliminary Replat: Grace Community Church, Block A, Lot 1R – Public school on one lot on 10.8 acres located at the northwest corner of Hedgcoxe Road and Preston Meadow Drive. Zoned Planned Development-439-Single-Family Residence-7 with Specific Use Permit No. 193 for Day Care Center. Project #PR2024- 002. Applicant: Grace Community Church, Inc. (Administrative consideration)]
YEAH, I NEED A, I NEED A RELIEF PITCHER HERE, MR. RATLIFF FOR MR. OLLIE.
ARE YOU UP FOR IT? AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR, PUBLIC HEARING PRELIMINARY REPL GRACE COMMUNITY CHURCH BLOCK A LOT.
ONE R PUBLIC SCHOOL ON ONE LOT ON 10.8 ACRES LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF HEDGE OAKS ROAD AND PRESTON MEADOW DRIVE ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT 4 39 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE.
SEVEN WITH SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER
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180 1 93 FOR DAYCARE CENTER.APPLICANT IS GRACE COMMUNITY CHURCH INCORPORATED.
THIS IS FOR ADMINISTRATIVE CONSIDERATION.
THE AUDIT IS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL SUBJECT TO ADDITIONS AND OR ALTERATIONS.
SO THE ENGINEERING PLANS AS REQUIRED BY THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND PLANO FIRE RESCUE APPROVAL OF A VARIANCE TO THE 150 FOOT HOSE LAY REQUIREMENT AND 1200 FOOT MAXIMUM BLOCK LENGTH REQUIREMENT FOR FIRE ACCESS ROAD.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ITEM? OH, LOOK, WE HAVE TWO MR. BRUNO, UM, IS, IS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT APPROVING THIS, UH, APPLICATION WITH RESPECT TO THE 150 FOOT HOSE LAY REQUIREMENT AND THE 1200 FOOT MAXIMUM BLOCK LENGTH? YES.
THEY HAVE RECEIVED A LETTER ABOUT A WEEK AGO OR SO FROM THE FIRE MARSHAL APPROVING THE REQUEST.
THE APPLICANT IS A CHURCH, BUT YOUR, YOUR NOTES SAY THIS IS TO CONVERT THE FORMER RELIGIOUS FACILITY TO A PUBLIC SCHOOL? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
IT WILL BE A CHARTER SCHOOL GOING IN.
AND IN OUR ORDINANCE, THE CHARTER SCHOOLS ARE REFERRED TO AS PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
SO IS, IS THAT A FIRE LANE THAT GOES ALL THE WAY AROUND THE BUILDING? UH, YES IT IS.
SO WHY IS THERE HOSE HOSELY REQUIREMENT REQUIRED IF THERE'S A FIRE LANE? SO THERE IS A ADDITION IN THE, I BELIEVE IT'S THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE BUILDING OR THE PROPERTY WHERE THEY'RE ADDING A STORM SHELTER BUILDING.
AND SO THERE IS A POINT, INTERNAL POINT THAT THERE ISN'T, THE 150 FOOT DOESN'T REACH IT, SO THEY JUST NEED EXTENSION.
THE WATER WILL GET THERE THOUGH.
YEAH, I WAS JUST CURIOUS THAT THE FIRE MARSHAL WOULD ACTUALLY DO THIS ON A SCHOOL.
AND SO I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE SITUATION WAS AND THEN WHEN I SAW THE FIRE LANE, IT REALLY DIDN'T MAKE SENSE.
SO THANKS FOR THE EXPLANATION.
THAT ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION, MR. YEAH, THE STORM SHELTER WAS MY QUESTION.
I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, NO SPEAKERS REGISTERED.
I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I, MR. BRONSKI, I'M GONNA TRY IT ONE MORE TIME.
ARE YOU SURE I MOVE? WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEM FOUR AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF SECOND.
HAVE A VERY CLEAR MOTION BY MR. BROSKY WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER IFF TO APPROVE ITEM FOUR, PLEASE VOTE.
THAT ITEM CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO.
[5. (PM) Public Hearing – Extension of Approval Request – Preliminary Replat: Preston Park Village Addition, Block A, Lot 1R – Request to extend approval of a preliminary replat for a shopping center on one lot on 26.3 acres located at the southeast corner of Preston Road and Park Boulevard. Zoned Planned Development-189-Retail/General Office with Specific Use Permits No. 229 and 649 for Private Club and located within the Preston Road Overlay District. Project #PR2024-003. Applicant: BRE Throne Preston Park, LLC. (Legislative consideration)]
AGENDA NUMBER FIVE, PUBLIC HEARING EXTENSION OF APPROVAL REQUEST.PRELIMINARY REPLY, PRESTON PARK VILLAGE EDITION BLOCK A LOT.
ONE R REQUEST TO EXTEND APPROVAL OF A PRELIMINARY REPL FOR A SHOPPING CENTER ON ONE LOT ON 26.3 ACRES LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF PRESTON ROAD AND PARK BOULEVARD ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT 180 9 RETAIL GENERAL OFFICE WITH SPECIFIC USE PERMITS NUMBER 2 29 AND 6 49 FOR PRIVATE CLUB AND LOCATED WITHIN THE PRESTON ROAD OVERLAY DISTRICT.
APPLICANT IS BRE THRONE PRESTON PARK, LLC.
THIS IS FOR LEGISLATIVE CONSIDERATION.
THIS APPLICANT IS REQUESTING AN EXTENSION REQUEST TO THE PRELIMINARY PLAT, WHICH WAS APPROVED IN FEBRUARY, 2022 AND EXPIRED IN FEBRUARY, 2024.
ON THE SCREEN IS THE EXTENSION CRITERIA, WHICH I WILL NOW GO THROUGH THE REASON FOR THE LAPSE.
THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING AN EXTENSION TO COMPLETE THE REMAINING SITE IMPROVEMENTS AS REQUIRED BY ENGINEERING THE PROPERTY'S OWNER ABILITY TO COMPLY WITH ANY CONDITIONS OF THE APPROVAL AT THE TIME OF APPROVAL.
NO CONDITIONS WERE PLACED ON THE PLAT WITH THE PREVIOUS APPROVAL EXTENT TO WHICH NEWLY ADOPTED REGULATION SHALL APPLY TO THE PLAT.
NO REGULATION CHANGES ARE APPLICABLE TO THIS DEVELOPMENT AND WITH THAT STAFF RECOMMENDS THIS EXTENSION REQUEST FOR APPROVAL.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU MR. KERRY? YEAH, I THINK THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION HERE IS THE
ONE R UM, IT IS PART OF THAT, YEAH.
WHAT WHAT I HAPPEN TO KNOW IS THAT THERE WAS A TRANSFORMER THAT THEY NEEDED TO GET MOVED SO THEY COULD DO IT.
SO I THINK THAT'S FINALLY BEEN APPROVED RECENTLY.
SO I, YOU KNOW, BUT I, I WAS JUST WANTED TO VALIDATE IF WHAT I THOUGHT WAS TRUE WAS TRUE.
THAT LOT HAS MULTIPLE BUILDINGS ON IT AND KD IOT IS ONE OF THEM.
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THANK YOU.I WILL CLOSE THE, OR EXCUSE ME, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WE DO NOT HAVE ANY REGISTERED SPEAKERS.
I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I MOVE, WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF SECOND.
SO THE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROSKY WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ROUNDUP TO APPROVE ITEM FIVE AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF, PLEASE VOTE.
THAT ITEM CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO NON-PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL PERMIT LIMITED PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA NOT POSTED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL ESTABLISH TIME LIMITS BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKER REQUESTS, LENGTH OF THE AGENDA, AND TO ENSURE MEETING EFFICIENCY AND MAY INCLUDE A
[6. (JA) Discussion: Neighborhood Traffic Management Program Update – Presentation of the Neighborhood Traffic Management Program since the adoption of the Street Design Standards. Project #DI2024-002. Applicant: City of Plano ]
TOTAL TIME LIMIT AGENDA.ITEM NUMBER SIX IS A DISCUSSION NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PROGRAM UPDATE PRESENTATION OF A NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC PROGRAM MANAGEMENT PROGRAM.
SINCE THE ADOPTION OF THE STREET DESIGN STANDARDS, APPLICANT IS CITY OF PLANO EVENING COMMISSION.
MY NAME IS JASON APRIL, THE SENIOR MOBILITY PLANNER.
LAST SEPTEMBER, YOU REMEMBER THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED THE STREET DESIGN STANDARDS.
THE STREET DESIGN STANDARDS PROVIDE THE DESIGN REQUIREMENTS FOR TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF PLANO, INCLUDING TRAFFIC CALMING ELEMENTS THAT CAN BE USED TO REDUCE TRAFFIC SPEED OR VOLUME, INCREASE SAFETY AND BEAUTIFY CITY STREETS.
ON JANUARY 3RD, 2023, STAFF PRESENTED AN OVERVIEW OF SECTION 13 NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
THIS SECTION IS A CRITICAL COMPONENT OF THE STREET DESIGN STANDARDS BECAUSE IT OUTLINES THE PLANNING AND DESIGN OF THE TRAFFIC CALMING METHODS THAT REDUCE THE SPEED AND VOLUME OF VEHICULAR TRAFFIC TO ADDRESS COMMUNITY NEEDS.
THE SECTION LAYS OUT THE MECHANISMS FOR CITIZENS AND PLANO TO PETITION TRAFFIC CALMING IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS AT THAT JANUARY 23RD, 2020.
AT THE JANUARY 3RD, 2023 MEETING, THE COMMISSION PROVIDED DIRECTION THAT TRAFFIC CALMING METHODS IN PLANO SHOULD CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON USER FRIENDLINESS AND THAT THE PROCESS SHOULD BE STREAMLINED TO EXPEDITE EVALUATION AND IMPLEMENTATION.
SO TONIGHT, STAFF WILL PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT SINCE THE ADOPTION OF THE STREET DESIGN STANDARDS THIS LAST FALL.
SO LET'S GO OVER SOME HISTORY.
AS A REMINDER, THE CITY PREVIOUSLY ADMINISTERED A SAFE STREETS PROGRAM THAT ADDRESSED NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC CONCERNS THROUGH A TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WHICH ACTED AS THE REVIEW AND ADVISORY BOARD FOR NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PROGRAMS. SOLUTIONS UNDER THE PROGRAM INCLUDED TRAFFIC CIRCLES AND SPEED BUMPS ON NEIGHBORHOOD COLLECTOR STREETS.
THE EXAMPLE ON THE POWERPOINT IS A TRAFFIC C CIRCLE THAT'S CURRENTLY ON COLUMBIA PLACE.
THE SAFE STREETS PROGRAM WAS DISCONTINUED IN 2008.
SO BETWEEN 2008 AND THE ADOPTION OF THE STREET DESIGN STANDARDS, THE CITY HAD LIMITED TRAFFIC.
CALMING OPTIONS AND IMPROVEMENTS WERE PRIMARILY LIMITED TO THE MAINTENANCE OF EXISTING SPEED BUMPS.
THE SECTIONS TO SECTION, UH, THE UPDATES TO SECTION 13 WERE GUIDED BY POLICIES AND ACTIONS WITH THE TRANSPORTATION AND HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOODS COMPONENTS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN 2021.
IN PARTICULAR, THESE POLICIES AND ACTIONS INCLUDED THE ROADWAY SYSTEM POLICY, THE NEIGHBORHOOD CON CONSERVATION POLICY, AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION POLICY ACTION ONE, WHICH SAYS TO ESTABLISH PROGRAMS AND INITIATIVES THAT ENABLE, ENABLE HOMEOWNERS TO MAINTAIN AND ENHANCE THEIR PROPERTIES AND NEIGHBORHOODS AS OUTLINED IN THE UPDATED STANDARDS.
TRAFFIC CALMING INCLUDES METHODS THAT REDUCE THE SPEED AND VOLUME OF VEHICULAR TRAFFIC TO ADDRESS NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC CONCERNS.
TRAFFIC CALMING METHODS MAY CONSIST OF HORIZONTAL OR HOR OR VERTICAL DEFLECTION, LANE NARROWING AND OTHER FEATURES THAT USE SELF-ENFORCING PHYSICAL, SO CURB EXTENSIONS OR MEDIAN ISLANDS OR VISUAL, UH, PHYSICALLY, UM, STRIPING THE ROADWAY.
THESE TECHNIQUES CAN ENCOURAGE SLOWER VEHICULAR SPEEDS.
SO SPEED BUMPS, RAISED CROSSWALKS, CHICANES.
THESE ARE ALL EXAMPLES OF TRAFFIC CALMING METHODS THAT COULD BE USED TO MEET THE DESIRED RESULTS IN A NEIGHBORHOOD.
SECTION 13, AS YOU RECALL, LISTS OUT THE VARIETY OF METHODS THAT PLANO CAN UTILIZE.
IF A CITIZEN OR A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION DESIRES THAT TRAFFIC BE ADJUSTED IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY CAN REQUEST THAT A PARTICULAR STREET OR AN AREA BE CONSIDERED FOR NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT IMPROVEMENTS.
THE DIAGRAM ON THE SCREEN IS DISCUSSED IN DETAIL IN SECTION 13.
IT PROVIDES THE PROCESS FOR HOW A PLAN, UH, CAN BE USED TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS AND HOW THE PLAN CAN BE DEVELOPED.
THEY REQUEST DESIGN, OUTREACH, AND APPROVAL PROCESS ARE OUTLINED IN DETAIL
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TO MAKE THE PROCESS CLEAR AND CONCISE TO BOTH THE PUBLIC AND THE STAFF.ADDITIONALLY, SECTION 13 SPECIFIES MANY POLICIES AS PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT ON NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS, INCLUDING THAT PROJECT SHOULD ENCOURAGE SLOWER SPEED TO ENHANCE SAFETY FOR ALL ROAD USERS WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
LAND USE CONTEXT THAT PROJECTS SHOULD BE LIMITED TO STREETS WITH A NEIGHBORHOOD LAND USE DESIGNATION.
THIS TYPE INCLUDES F AND G STREETS AND THAT THEY MAY BE UTILIZED IN HEAVY PEDESTRIAN CONTEXT.
SO AS I MENTIONED EARLIER IN JANUARY, 2023, THE COMMISSION PROVIDED DIRECTION THAT THE UPDATES TO THE STREET DESIGN STANDARDS SHOULD FOCUS ON USER FRIENDLINESS AND A STREAMLINED PROCESS.
SINCE THE ADOPTION OF THE STANDARDS STAFF HAS INITIATED CHANGES RELATED TO THE REQUEST, THE EVALUATION AND THE SELECTION PROCESSES FOR, UH, TRAFFIC CALMING IMPROVEMENTS.
SO I'VE INVITED CHAD ODER, SENIOR TRAFFIC ENGINEER TO DISCUSS THE WORK THAT THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT HAS DONE TO IMPLEMENT THE IMPROVEMENTS.
AND ALSO WANNA POINT OUT THAT BRIAN SHUKI TRAFFIC ENGINEERING MANAGER IS ALSO AT THE DAAS.
UM, TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, WE'LL INCLUDE THE PRESENTATION.
I'LL TURN THE PRESENTATION OVER TO CHAD.
MY NAME IS CHAD O REER, SENIOR TRAFFIC ENGINEER WITH THE CITY OF PLANO, AND I'M ONE OF THE STAFF THAT IS MANAGING THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC CALMING PROGRAM.
UM, WE ROLLED THIS OUT IN JANUARY AND UH, WE STARTED LOOKING BACK THROUGH SEVERAL OF THE FIXITS THAT WE HAD RECEIVED IN THE PRIOR YEAR, UM, AND THAT WE HAD IDENTIFIED AS GOOD CANDIDATES FOR THIS PROGRAM.
UM, WE NOTIFIED THOSE RESIDENTS, UM, THROUGH THE FIXIT PROGRAM THAT THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC CALMING PROGRAM WAS LIVE.
WE GAVE THEM LINKS TO THE WEBSITE AND THE APPLICATION, AND WE DISCUSSED REALLY BRIEFLY HOW THE PROCESS WAS STARTED AND, AND WHAT THEY NEEDED TO DO.
AND WE WERE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE.
UM, THE, WE, WE POINT THEM FIRST TO THE WEBSITE WHERE WE'VE GOT AN OVERVIEW OF OUR, OF OUR PROCESS, UM, AND THEN LINKS TO THE TRAFFIC COMMON REQUEST FORMS. UM, AND THEN WE GO OVER HOW THIS IS A COMPETITIVE PROCESS.
WE DO HAVE LIMITED FUNDS EACH YEAR.
UM, SO JUST BECAUSE THEY SUBMIT AN APPLICATION DOES NOT MEAN THAT THEY ARE GOING TO NECESSARILY RECEIVE, UM, THE INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING.
WE, WE GUIDE THEM TO THE, THE TRAFFIC CALMING REQUEST FORM THROUGH THE WEBSITE.
UM, FOR THE, THE APPLICANT, UH, WE'RE NO, WE'RE JUST ASKING WHO THEY ARE AND AND HOW WE CAN CONTACT THEM, UM, WHERE THEY'RE SEEING THE ISSUE AND WHEN THEY ARE SEEING THE ISSUE.
UM, SO THAT WHEN WE ARE GOING BACK AND DOING OUR DATA COLLECTION, WE CAN SEE, UM, WHAT THEY'RE SEEING IF, IF THEY'RE SEEING THAT WHEN SCHOOL LETS OUT IS WHEN THEY'RE SEEING THE, THE, THE SPEEDING IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, WE CAN GO AND COLLECT DATA FOR THAT, THAT TIMEFRAME.
UM, AND WE, WE DIDN'T WANT TO GET TOO TECHNICAL FOR THE, UM, FOR THIS REQUEST FORM.
SO WE, WE LIMITED IT TO JUST WHO THEY ARE AND, AND WHEN AND WHERE THEY'RE SEEING THE ISSUE.
ONCE WE, UH, ONCE WE RECEIVE THAT APPLICATION, WE DO A LITTLE BIT OF WORK ON OUR END.
WE LOOK AT, WE LOOK AT THE, THE AREA THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING, AND WE DRAW UP A MAP OF WHAT RESIDENTS WOULD BE IMPACTED DIRECTLY BY THESE, UH, IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, AND WE, WE HAVE THEM GO THROUGH A PETITION PROCESS.
WE PARTIALLY FILL OUT THE PETITION PROCESS FOR THEM.
WE WITH WHERE, WHERE THEY'RE AT, AND WE, WE FILL IN ALL THE ADDRESSES OF WHO THEY NEED TO CONTACT.
UM, IT IS THEN ON THE RESIDENT TO, UH, GO DOOR TO DOOR AND, AND REQUEST, UM, THE SIGNATURES AND EXPLAIN WHAT, WHAT THEY'RE, WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR.
UM, THIS, THIS STEP IS JUST A VALIDATION THAT THERE IS A, A PROBLEM ON THEIR STREET.
SO THEY'RE ASKING THEIR NEIGHBORS, DO YOU AGREE THAT THERE IS A SPEEDING PROBLEM IN THIS AREA? UM, AND THEN WE, WE ARE LOOKING FOR TWO THIRDS OF THE, UH, OF THE NEIGHBORS IN THAT AREA TO SAY EITHER YES OR NO.
UM, AND IF THEY, IF TWO THIRDS SAY YES, THEN WE WILL MOVE ON TO DATA COLLECTION AND ANALYSIS.
SO THE CURRENT STATUS OF OUR PROGRAM, WE HAVE FIVE PROJECTS, LOCATIONS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE WORKS.
TWO OF THOSE WERE IDENTIFIED BY THE CITY AS KNOWN ISSUES.
UM, AND SO WE ARE PROCEEDING AS THE APPLICANT AS THE CITY, AND WE'LL BE, WE'LL BE GOING THROUGH THE SAME PETITION PROCESS THAT A RESIDENT WOULD.
UM, BUT WE'LL BE DOING IT THROUGH MAILERS, UM, AND, AND POTENTIALLY USING SOME OF OUR STAFF TO GO TO DOOR TO DOOR IF NEEDED.
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THE THREE APPLICATIONS THAT CAME IN, UM, WE, WE RECEIVED THEIR APPLICATION AND WE HAVE RESPONDED, UH, WITH THE PETITION PROCESS AND THE MAP.AND WE'VE ANSWERED A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT THEY'VE, THEY HAVE.
UM, WE ARE ALSO AS AN ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, WE'VE, WE ARE WORKING WITH PURCHASING TO GAIN A, A COUPLE NEW PIECES OF EQUIPMENT, UH, TO FACILITATE EFFICIENCY IN OUR DATA COLLECTION.
UM, AND WE ARE ALSO WORKING ON SCOPING THE ANALYSIS AND DESIGN PORTIONS OF THIS PROGRAM WITH THIRD PARTY CONSULTANTS.
THE NEXT STEPS, AS WE GET RESIDENTS WHO ARE REQUESTING THIS THROUGH APPLICATIONS, WE ARE ALSO REACHING BACK OUT, PLANNING ON REACHING BACK OUT AFTER THEY SUBMIT THE PETITION.
UM, WHETHER IT'S FOR OR AGAINST AND ASKING FOR FEEDBACK.
HOW WAS THE APPLICATION PROCESS? WHAT DID THEY THINK OF OUR WEBSITE? HOW WAS THE PETITION PROCESS? HOW CAN WE STREAMLINE THOSE, MAKE IT MORE USER FRIENDLY FOR THEM? DID THEY HAVE ANY ISSUES GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS? UM, AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE TYPE OF FEEDBACK THAT WE'LL BE SEEKING FROM THE RESIDENTS AS THEY COMPLETE THE APPLICATION, NOT JUST WITH THESE FIRST THREE, BUT ANYTIME THAT, UM, WE GET AN APPLICATION FOR THIS FIRST YEAR, UM, THAT WAY WE CAN REEVALUATE LATER THIS YEAR, UM, AND SEE IF WE NEED TO MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS TO THE PROGRAM.
COULD YOU GO BACK, UH, TO WHERE YOU LISTED THERE WERE FIVE LOCATIONS? YES.
THREE CAME THROUGH THE APPLICATION PROCESS ONLINE.
IT SAYS TWO WERE KNOWN ISSUES ALREADY AND THE WORKING THROUGH, WERE THEY KNOWN ISSUES BECAUSE A RESIDENT HAD BROUGHT THEM UP PREVIOUSLY OR IS IT SOMETHING THE CITY'S JUST AS PART OF THE OVERALL TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT SAID THIS IS A LOCATION WE SHOULD ADDRESS? SO ONE OF THOSE, UM, AM I ALLOWED TO NO, GO AHEAD.
SO ONE OF THOSE IS WESTWOOD DRIVE BETWEEN 15TH AND PLANO PARKWAY.
UM, THIS IS ONE THAT WE, WE ARE AWARE OF THROUGH BOTH CRASH HISTORY, UM, FROM THE, OUR ANNUAL, UH, HIGH ACCIDENT LOCATION, HIGH ACCIDENT, UM, I, I FORGET WHAT THE R STANDS FOR, OR HAL HORRORS ANALYSIS THAT WE DO EVERY YEAR.
THAT THAT CORRIDOR GETS A LOT OF OF CRASHES AND SOME OF THEM ARE CRAZY.
UM, LOTS OF, AND A LOT OF THEM ARE DUE TO SPEEDING.
SO IT'S DRIVEN BY THE, THE ONES THE CITY'S WORKING THROUGH.
THAT ONES BASICALLY WERE THROUGH TRAFFIC.
THAT ONE IS DRIVEN THROUGH OUR, OUR TRAFFIC ANALYSIS.
WE'VE HAD ANOTHER ONE, UM, IN THE E EAST, EAST OF DOWNTOWN HERE, UH, IN, IN THAT RESIDENTIAL AREA WHERE WE'VE HAD SEVERAL RESIDENTS OVER THE LAST YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF MAKE THIS REQUEST.
UM, AND RATHER THAN GOING TO ONE PERSON, WE'RE JUST PURSUING IT AS A CITY.
I LIKE, I LIKE HEARING THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER CAREY.
SO, UM, HOW DO WE DEFINE AN AREA? WE SAY WE NEED TWO THIRDS OF THE CITIZENS, BUT HOW DOES THAT, THAT AREA GET DEFINED? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
UM, SO IN THE APPLICATION PROCESS, WE ASK WHERE THEY ARE SEEING THE, THE ISSUE.
UM, WE THEN LOOK AT THAT AREA, UM, AND, AND SEE WHY, WHY WOULD A PERSON BE SPEEDING THROUGH THIS AREA? THEY MAY, THEY MAY LIMIT THEIR SCOPE TO A, A, A, A FEW BLOCKS, BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT THE AREA, WE, WE MAY SEE, OKAY, THIS IS BEING USED OR COULD BE USED AS A CUT THROUGH TO GET FROM ONE ARTERIAL TO ANOTHER, OR MAYBE THEY'RE TRYING TO GET TO A SCHOOL.
UM, AND SO WE, WE MIGHT EXPAND THAT AREA, UH, BASED ON WHAT WHAT WE THINK MIGHT BE HAPPENING OUT THERE.
UM, AND THEN WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT, IF WE WERE TO PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE, WHETHER IT BE SPEED BUMPS OR CHICANES OR, OR RAISED PAY OR RAISED A CROSSWALKS OR, OR WHATEVER, OR DEVELOPED DESIGN CONSULTANT DETERMINES IS THE BEST SOLUTION, UM, WHAT WOULD THE DIRECT IMPACT IT HOUSES BE? UM, SO IF, IF THERE IS A, IF LOCATION WHERE, UM, A, A HOMEOWNER COULD AVOID THESE, THIS INFRASTRUCTURE BY EITHER TAKING A SIDE STREET OR GOING THROUGH THEIR ALLEY TO GET TO THEIR HOUSE, WE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY ASK THEM IF THEY WERE GONNA, SINCE THEY WOULDN'T BE DIRECTLY IMPACTED EVERY DAY BY THIS, UM, BY THIS INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO, SO AS I UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS, SO WE NEED TWO THIRDS AND THAT WILL THEN TRIGGER THE PROCESS AND THEN I GUESS WE, IN THE CITY, THE CITY WILL DETERMINE IF IT'S REALLY VALID WITH LIMITED RESOURCES TO DETERMINE IF THE PROJECT GOES FORWARD.
IS THAT LARGELY CORRECT? CORRECT.
YEAH, WE, WE WOULD, WE WOULD, IT WOULD TRIGGER US TO DO DATA ANALYSIS, UM, AND DATA COLLECTION.
UH, WE WOULD LOOK AT, AT THE SPEEDS OF THE VEHICLES AND WE WOULD LOOK AT HOW MANY VEHICLES IN THAT CORRIDOR,
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UM, TROUT MAKE A TRIP EVERY DAY.UM, AND THEN WE WOULD WORK WITH OUR ANALYSIS CONSULTANT TO DETERMINE, UM, IF IT WAS ONE OF MANY PROJECTS THAT WAS SUITABLE FOR FUNDING THAT YEAR.
SO IF SOMEBODY PUTS IN AN APPLICATION AND, AND THEN THEY DON'T GET ENOUGH SUPPORT, THEN WOULD THE CITY NOT LOOK AT THAT AT THAT POINT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TWO THIRDS OF, OF, IN THE AREA THAT WE'RE DEFINING OR WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN THERE? CORRECT.
SO IF, IF THEY DO NOT RECEIVE ENOUGH PETITION SUPPORT, UM, THE, THE CITY COULD DO DATA COLLECTION AND, AND, AND STILL DETERMINE THAT THIS IS, UH, AN ISSUE, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH CRASH ANALYSIS OR, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, IT WOULDN'T SCORE AS HIGH ON OUR FUNDING, UM, OR, OR APPLICABLE FUNDING, UH, RUBRIC BECAUSE THE PETITION PROCESS IS PART OF THAT SCORING.
IF IF THEY DON'T REACH THAT, THEN, THEN THEY'RE LOSING OUT ON POINTS, BUT YOU'RE RESERVING, YOU'RE RESERVING THE OPTION OF GOING, OKAY, WAIT A MINUTE, WE KIND OF KNOW ABOUT THIS AND, AND EVEN THOUGH WE DIDN'T GET SUPPORT, MAYBE THAT MAKES SENSE.
HOW, HOW SIGNIFICANT WILL BE CRASH DATA IN DETERMINING THIS? WILL THAT, WILL THAT BE A MAJOR SCORING FACTOR? YES.
CRASH, CRASH HISTORY IS ONE OF OUR, IS ONE OF OUR BIGGEST POINT VALUES IN OUR, IN OUR GRADING RUBRIC.
BECAUSE IN SOME AREAS I KNOW THERE, THERE ARE SOME STREETS THAT ARE LEADING UP TO SCHOOLS AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S MANY CRASHES, BUT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES I SEE CARS GOING DOWN THESE AREAS AND I MEAN, THEY ARE, THEY'RE DRIVING A LOT FASTER THAN THEY SHOULD, BUT I'M NOT SURE THEY'RE CRASHING ANYWAY.
UH, JUST A BUILD UP ON COMMISSIONER CAREY'S POINT.
IS THERE ANY MEANS TO ARGUE THE SCOPE OF THE AREA? THEY'RE GO, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO GO GET PETITIONS FROM? 'CAUSE I, I'M THINKING OF MY OWN STREET NOW.
THE ON STREET PARKING ACTS AS A NATURAL
BUT IF I HAD TO COME UP WITH A PARK, UM, A, UH, TRAFFIC PETITION ON MY OWN STREET, THAT'S AT LEAST SIX BLOCKS THAT I CAN THINK OF THAT POTENTIALLY COULD BE.
SO IF YOU GIVE ME ONE, IF YOU GIVE ME AN AREA THAT WHY TO GO COLLECT PETITIONS FROM, DO I HAVE A MEANS TO ARGUE LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, I I I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM AND WE, WE ARE, ONE OF OUR FIVE PROJECTS IS ACTUALLY SIMILAR TO THIS AND WE BROKE IT UP INTO TWO PROJECTS.
UM, SO TECHNICALLY WE HAVE SIX PROJECTS ON THE BOOKS, BUT IT WAS ONE REQUEST DENOTED TWO LOCATIONS.
UM, AND SO IN THAT INSTANCE, WE LOOKED, WE WOULD, WE WOULD APPLY INFRASTRUCTURE TO THIS SECTION BETWEEN TWO SETS OF ALLEYS AND THEN THERE WAS A, A MAIN, UH, A CROSS STREET AND WE BROKE IT UP AT THAT CROSS STREET AND WE, WE DID ANOTHER SECTION DOWN DOWN THE STREET.
SO IF, IF ONE SET OF BLOCKS OF RESIDENCE WANTS IT AND, AND THEY WOULD BE DIRECTLY IMPACTED, THEN WE COULD PUT IT ON THAT SEGMENT.
BUT DOWN THE STREET, THEY MAY NOT WANT IT.
AND SO WE WOULDN'T, WE WOULDN'T LOOK AT THAT.
SO IF, IF WE HAVE A LONG STRETCH, WE WOULD LOOK AT BREAKING IT UP SO THAT IT IS BOTH EASIER ON THE RESIDENT TO REACH THE PETITION SUCCESS.
UM, BUT IT ALSO HELPS US BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S MORE NARROWLY DEFINING THAT AREA.
LET ME ADD A COUPLE MORE THINGS.
SO SANS YOUR, YOUR ISSUE ABOUT DATA COLLECTING OR GOING DOOR TO DOOR SIX BLOCKS AWAY, SAY EITHER DIRECTION, IF WE'RE CONCENTRATING JUST ON THAT CENTER PART, WE'RE ONLY GONNA REALLY BE LOOKING AT COLLECTING INFORMATION FROM RESIDENTS OR VER UM, VALIDATION THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE INTERESTED IN DOING CLOSE TO THAT LOCATION.
I CAN GUARANTEE YOU FROM EXPERIENCE THAT SIX BLOCKS AWAY, THEY'RE GONNA SAY NO BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY THE BENEFIT OF THE SLOWING THE TRAFFIC DOWN, BUT THEY ARE DIS BENEFITTED BY HAVING TO SLOW DOWN.
RIGHT? SO WE'RE GONNA BE CLOSE.
WE, WE WON'T HAVE A SITUATION WHERE SOMEBODY'S GONNA HAVE TO GO A LONG, LONG DIRECTION.
AND CHAD DIDN'T SAY THIS, BUT LEMME JUST POINT OUT WHY WE'RE HAVING THE RESIDENT COLLECT INFORMATION.
WHEN WE DO MAILERS, WE, WE GET A VERY LOW TURNOUT OR THEIR RESPONSE RATE ON THE, ON THE MAILERS.
AND SO WE, WE'LL DO A MAILER IF THE RESIDENT WANTS US TO DO THAT, BUT WE ONLY HAVE, IS IT SIX WEEKS OR EIGHT WEEKS, CHAD? SIX WEEKS.
SIX WEEKS TO GET RESPONSES BACK.
IF WE DON'T GET RESPONSES BACK THEN THE, THE THE MATTERS, UH, DEAD ON ARRIVAL, UH, AS, AS YOU MIGHT SAY, SO.
AND I ACTUALLY THINK THE RESIDENT GOING TO COLLECT INFORMATION ENABLES SOMETHING
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WE HEARD, UH, UH, THAT THIS IS A COMMUNITY PROBLEM, LET'S FIGURE THIS OUT TOGETHER.UM, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE WITH OUR ZONING, IT'S 200, WHAT IT 200 MILES OR 200 SQUARE FEET? UM, 200 FEET.
SO I, I APPRECIATE THE FLEXIBILITY ON DETERMINING WHAT MATTERS MORE, WHICH CONCENTRATION MATTERS MORE.
AND JUST ONE OTHER OTHER THING FROM A HISTORICAL STANDPOINT, IF YOU'RE AROUND PRE 2009, WE USED TO HAVE A PROGRAM IN PLACE THAT ALLOWED US TO PUT SPEED PUMPS IN THROUGH A PETITION PROCESS.
AND WE'RE KIND OF FOLLOWING THAT SAME PROCESS FROM THE PETITION STANDPOINT, ALTHOUGH WE DISBANDED OR ELIMINATED THE, THE, UH, SPEED HUNT PROGRAM IN 2009, ALTHOUGH WE STILL MAINTAIN THE ONES THAT WERE INSTALLED PRIOR TO THAT.
SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING NEW THAT THE, THAT THE RESIDENTS, LONGTIME RESIDENTS HAVE, UH, HAVE NEVER SEEN.
SO WE USED TO HAVE THIS VERY SIMILAR PROCESS IN PLACE, MR. LAW.
SO THE ON THE SPEED BUMPS WE'RE, I MEAN, WE NOW HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING 'EM BACK, LIKE THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
YOU CAN GET A SPEED BUMP ON YOUR STREET IF YOU GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE BRINGING BACK THAT WE GOT RID OF IN 2009.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE AN ENTIRE TOOLBOX IN CHAPTER 13 OF DIFFERENT ITEMS. AND ONE OF THE THINGS CHAD, UH, TOUCHED ON IS WHEN WE DO OUR EVALUATION, WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT WHAT'S THE BEST SOLUTION.
IT MIGHT BE THAT SPEED HUMPS IS THE BEST SOLUTION.
IT MIGHT BE THAT A CHICANE IS THE BEST SOLUTION TO MY NEXT QUESTION.
WHAT IS A CHICANE
HEY CHAD, DO YOU HAVE, DO YOU HAVE A PICTURE OF IT? A LITTLE BUMP OUT ON THE YEAH, SO IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK IN THE TOP RIGHT OF THIS, UM, THAT CREATES A PARKING, A PARKING SPOT THOUGH, RIGHT? AND RIGHT THAT, SO THIS, THIS IS CALLED A BULB OUT WHERE YOU HAVE THEM DIRECTLY OPPOSITE EACH OTHER.
A CHICANE WOULD BE, UM, HAVING ONE AND THEN ANOTHER ONE OFFSET.
SO YOU KIND OF HAVE TO DO A WEAVING MANEUVER THROUGH THE STREET.
IT'S THE THING YOU RUN INTO WHEN YOU'RE ON YOUR PHONE.
IT'S ONLY HAPPENED ONCE AND THAT WAS ACTUALLY A MEDIUM
SO THE, THE PURPOSES OF THIS INFRASTRUCTURE IS TO ACT LIKE ON STREET PARKING.
IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE DRIVING THROUGH A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU HAVE ON STREET PARKING ON BOTH SIDES, SLOW DOWN AND IT, YOU HAVE TO SLOW AND WEED WAY YOU FEEL THE FRICTION.
YOU'RE GONNA SLOW DOWN IF THERE'S, IF THERE'S AREAS WHERE THERE'S, THERE'S HIGH SPEEDS TYPICALLY BECAUSE THERE IS NOT THAT ON-STREET PARKING AND YOU, YOU DON'T FEEL THAT FRICTION GOING THROUGH.
UM, AND THAT FRICTION IS A LOT EASIER ON VEHICLE SUSPENSIONS THAN SPEED BUMPS.
UM, AND SO THE DESIGN CONSULTANT WOULD LOOK AT WHAT IS THE MOST APPLICABLE METHOD FOR THIS? UM, IF SPEED BUMPS ARE THE WAY THEY, THEY GO, I MEAN THEY, THAT THAT IS IT.
YOU'RE GOING TO SLOW DOWN 'CAUSE IT, IT, IT, YOU'RE GONNA FEEL IT IF YOU DON'T.
UM, THERE, THERE ARE, THERE ARE OTHER METRICS.
WHAT, WHAT MONEY'S BEEN SET ASIDE FOR THIS PROGRAM? 2021 BOND PROGRAM SET ASIDE $400,000 FOR THIS PROGRAM.
IS THAT 400,000 PERIOD OR A YEAR OR, NO, THAT WAS FOR THE, THE, THIS PARTICULAR BOND PROGRAM, WHICH IS A FOUR YEAR PERIOD.
SO WE'RE JUST NOW DIPPING INTO IT.
AND SO WE'RE ASSUMING TO KEEP THE PROGRAM MOVING FORWARD THAT THE 2025 BOND PROGRAM MIGHT GET ANOTHER, WOULD HAVE SOMETHING SIMILAR.
ANYTHING ELSE, MR. LAW? I'M GOOD, THANK YOU.
UM, OVERALL I LOVE THE NEW PROCESS, BUT LOOKING AT YOUR RUBRIC, I HAVE ONE QUESTION ON MULTIMODAL ACTIVITY.
YOU HAVE ACTIVITY GENERATORS WHERE YOU CAN GET POINTS FOR SCHOOLS, PARK NEIGHBORHOODS WITHIN ONE BLOCK.
MY ISSUE WITH THAT IS AS WE GROW OUR, UM, TODS, AND I'M SPECIFICALLY THINKING OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA, PEOPLE ARE WALKING FOR MORE THAN ONE BLOCK.
AND SO ON MY PARTICULAR STREET, WE'VE GOT A SCHOOL THAT HAS FACILITIES THAT ARE TWO BLOCKS APART.
THEY WALK BACK AND FORTH ALL DAY EVERY DAY.
UM, WE'VE GOT PEOPLE THAT ARE WALKING TO THE DART STATION THREE AND FOUR BLOCKS AWAY.
I WALKED HERE FOR THIS MEETING AND IT'S MORE THAN ONE BLOCK.
SO I, I WOULD ENCOURAGE Y'ALL TO LOOK AT THAT ONE BLOCK QUESTION BECAUSE ESPECIALLY IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND IN THE TODS, LIMITING THE PEDESTRIAN GENERATORS TO ONE BLOCK, I THINK IS NOT RECOGNIZING HOW PEOPLE ARE FUNCTIONING, ESPECIALLY IN THIS PART OF TOWN.
THAT THAT'S A VERY GOOD COMMENT.
AND I, I SEE BRIAN WRITING THAT DOWN.
UM, I, I THINK WHEN WE WERE DEVELOPING THESE STANDARDS, WE WERE FOCUSING FOR THE CITY AS A WHOLE.
UH, AND THE DOWNTOWN, THIS DOWNTOWN AREA IS DEFINITELY MORE PEDESTRIAN FOCUSED.
AND SO I, I CAN SEE THAT BEING SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER.
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MR. BERNOFF.UM, I THINK THE OVERALL PLAN IS GOOD, AND I APPRECIATE, ESPECIALLY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO BE RESPONSIVE TO REQUESTS FROM THE CITIZENS FOR, FOR THE INSTALLATION OF TRAFFIC CALMING DEVICES, UM, IN AN APPROPRIATE SITUATION.
UM, I WOULD URGE YOU NOT TO BE TOTALLY IN A RESPONSIVE MODE HOWEVER, BUT TO ALSO COEXISTENT WITH THAT, TO BE IN A PROACTIVE MODE TO IDENTIFY AREAS THAT MIGHT NEED ATTENTION AND TO TAKE ACTION WHERE NEEDED, UM, AS A, TO, TO COMPLIMENT THE PROGRAM OF RESPONDING TO THE, TO THE CITIZEN REQUEST.
UM, ONE AREA IN WHICH I THINK YOU MIGHT CONSIDER BEING PROACTIVE, UH, I REMEMBER WE HAD DISCUSSION BEFORE WHEN THIS, WHEN THE, THE TRAFFIC CALMING PLAN WAS BEFORE US LAST YEAR SOMETIME, I THINK WAS THE POTENTIAL SAFETY BENEFITS OF TRAFFIC CIRCLES AND ROUNDABOUTS.
AND I WAS THINKING THAT PERHAPS IT MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL FOR IT FOR THE STAFF TO IDENTIFY A SMALL NUMBER OF SUITABLE INTERSECTIONS TO INSTALL A TRAFFIC CIRCLE HERE AND A ROUNDABOUT THERE ON A TRIAL BASIS.
SO YOU CAN EVALUATE HOW THEY OPERATE, HOW THE TRAFFIC FLOWS, WHETHER OR NOT YOU NEED TRAFFIC SIGNAGE TO COMPLIMENT IT, LIKE, YOU KNOW, STOP SIGNS OR YIELD SIGNS OR, YOU KNOW, PAVEMENT MARKINGS OR THAT SORT OF THING.
UH, AND IF IT, UM, IF, IF, IF THE TRIAL INSTALLATIONS PROVE PROMISING, YOU CAN MAKE TURN THAT INTO A LARGER PROGRAM TO HAVE TRAFFIC CIRCLES AND ROUNDABOUTS INSTEAD OF THE TRADITIONAL INTERSECTION WITH STOP SIGNS OR, OR TRAFFIC LIGHTS.
YEAH, THE, UH, PRETTY QUICKLY, FIRST OF ALL, I, I AGREE WITH HIM.
I'VE BEEN IN SOME CITIES RECENTLY WHERE THEY'RE USING THE ROUNDABOUTS REALLY EFFECTIVELY AND, AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US LOOK AT THAT SOMEWHAT.
I THINK THEY CAN BE GREAT ONCE THE CITIZENS FIGURE OUT HOW THEY WORK, BUT, UM, BUT SO MY QUESTIONS ARE PRETTY SIMPLE.
ONE, THERE'S A SIX WEEK PROCESS OR SIX WEEK TIMING FROM WHEN AN APPLICATION COMES TO WHEN THEY HAVE TO GET SIGNATURES BACK, RIGHT? SO IT'S A, IT IS 60 DAYS, UM, IN THE, THE APPLICATIONS THAT WE SENT OUT.
UM, SO IF, IF YOU REFERENCE YOUR STAFF REPORT, WE INCLUDED THE, UH, THE EVALUATION EXAMPLE HERE.
UM, AND IT'S, IT'S HARD TO SEE, BUT WE, WE PROVIDED AT THE VERY BOTTOM OF THAT LEFT SIDE, WE PROVIDE THE DATES, THIS IS THE DATE THAT WE SEND IT OUT AND THIS IS THE DATE THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE IT BACK.
UM, BUT THAT I, I ROUND, I GAVE A A ROUND NUMBER.
I SAID, WE'RE GONNA START THIS ON A MONDAY.
UM, I SENT IT OUT THE THURSDAY BEFORE, UM, I, I ASSIGN SAID, YOU'RE STARTING IT NEXT MONDAY, YOU'VE GOT THIS EXTRA TIME, TIME WINDOW.
UM, I GAVE 'EM A LITTLE TIME WINDOW THERE AND THEN I WENT 60 DAYS OUT AND I PUT A ROUND NUMBER OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, GET, GET IT TO ME BY FRIDAY END OF THE MONTH.
SO ROUGHLY 60 DAYS, GIVE OR TAKE, GIVE OR TAKE.
AND, AND SO MY, MY FINAL QUESTION IS IF THEY DON'T GET THE SIGNATURES THEY NEED AND OR WE DECIDE THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO PUT THIS PROJECT IN PLAY RIGHT NOW, IS THERE A TIMELINE UNTIL THEY CAN REAPPLY? SO IF THEY APPLY, SHOULD BE ONE HERE? YES.
I, I BELIEVE THAT'S, I, I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT.
WE HAD, WE HAVE A SIMILAR SITUATION FOR OUR ALI SPEED BUMP PROGRAM OR, OR REQUESTING FOR REMOVALS.
ONCE, ONCE THIS PROGRAM IS IN PLACE.
UM, OR SORRY, ONCE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS IN PLACE, UM, THERE IS ALSO A, A PERIOD OF ONE YEAR BEFORE THEY CAN REQUEST IT TO BE REMOVED.
SO IF, IF IT GOES IN AND THEY DETERMINE THAT, OH, WE REALLY DON'T LIKE THIS AFTER ALL, THEN THEY HAVE TO WAIT AND LIVE WITH IT FOR A LITTLE BIT.
ALRIGHT, I'M GONNA EXPAND ON CHAD'S COMMENT.
SO FROM HISTORICAL STANDPOINT, WE HAD A LOT OF SPEED HUMPS GET PUT IN PRIOR TO 2009.
AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST REASONS THEY GOT REMOVED IS 'CAUSE AFTER A MONTH THE CITIZEN SAID, OH, I DON'T LIKE THE NOISE OR IT, I DON'T IT, I DON'T LIKE THE BOUNCE, SO TAKE 'EM BACK OUT AFTER WE'VE ALREADY PUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN.
SO WE INTENTIONALLY PUT IN A ONE YEAR LAG TO IT TO, BEFORE THE CITIZEN CAN SAY, WE NEED TO HAVE THIS, THIS REMOVED.
UNLESS OF COURSE IT'S SOME SAFETY ISSUE THAT'S CAUSING, CAUSING, YOU KNOW, ACCIDENTS OR CRASHES.
BUT THERE IS A ONE YEAR LAG, AS CHAD MENTIONED.
MR. BRONSKI, UH, JUST TWO COMMENTS.
NUMBER ONE, I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL THE EFFORT THAT YOU PUT IN TO KEEP OUR STREETS SAFE FOR OUR CHILDREN AND FOR US.
AND TWO, UH, I'VE ALSO BEEN IN LOTS OF CITIES TO BE VERY EFFECTIVE AND I PERSONALLY THINK THAT THEY WOULD BE A BIG BENEFIT FOR US TO LOOK INTO AND TO CONSIDER ADVANCING
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IN THE FUTURE.EVERY DAY YOU GUYS ARE, UH, POUNDING A PAVEMENT TRYING TO FIX IT FOR US, RIGHT? SO MAKE IT SAFE.
DO YOU HAVE A WRAP UP OR NO? STEP BACK TO THE MICROPHONE.
I WAS JUST SETTING THE, AH, OKAY.
UH, MR. BROSKI, YOUR LIGHT CAME ON AND THEN, OH, OKAY.
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ITEMS FOR FUTURE AGENDAS, WHICH, AND WE HAVE A PROCESS I GUESS FOR THAT, BUT NO, I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY, UM, THANKS TO MRS. BRIDGES FOR HER DEVOTED SERVICE TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND FOR SERVING THIS COMMISSION.BRING US A COOKIE OR SOMETHING ONCE IN A WHILE.
THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE MY JOB TO DO THAT, BUT HE'S ACTING CHAIRMAN TONIGHT.
ALL IT IS 7 52 AND WE ARE UP HERE.