Jan 08, 2024 City Council

WE APPROVE THE, UH, CONSENT AGENDA EXCEPT FOR ITEM H FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? UH, ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, WE HAVE PULLED ITEM H, MR. MAYOR, MOVE.

[Approval of Minutes]

SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION, A SECOND TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE, UH, EXCEPTION OF ITEM H.

PLEASE VOTE.

HOW DO YOU VOTE? MAYOR PRO TEM.

COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

MOTION PASSES.

EIGHT TO ZERO ITEM H.

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UM, ITEM H UH, WAS PULLED BECAUSE WE WERE IN THE PROCESS OF, OH, YOU HAVE TO READ IT FIRST.

I'M SORRY.

SO, JUMPING THE GUM.

WE'RE GOOD.

READY FOR FOOTBALL? I'M SORRY.

ITEM

[(h) To approve an expenditure for management of the Plano Mayor's Summer Internship Program for a one (1) year contract in the amount of $100,000, up to $150,000 if certain fundraising tiers are accomplished, from Amber Zuckerman; and authorizing the City Manager to execute all necessary documents.]

H TO APPROVE AN EXPENDITURE FOR MANAGEMENT OF THE PLANO MAYOR'S SUMMER INTERNSHIP PROGRAM FOR A ONE YEAR CONTRACT IN THE AMOUNT OF A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS UP TO $150,000 IF CERTAIN FUNDRAISING TIERS ARE ACCOMPLISHED FROM AMBER ZUCKERMAN AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS.

ALRIGHT, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, ANDREW FORTUNE, DIRECTOR OF POLICY AND GOVERNMENT RELATIONS.

UM, SINCE WE HAD THE DEADLINE FOR POSTING THE AGENDA, WE HAVE CONTINUED OUR NEGOTIATIONS, UH, WITH THIS CONSULTANT FOR THE MAYOR'S SUMMER INTERNSHIP.

AND SO THE FINANCIAL CONSIDERATION HAS CHANGED, UM, AS WELL AS THE STRUCTURE.

IT WILL NOW BE A FLAT, UM, NUMBER, $130,000 WILL BE THE AMOUNT, UM, THAT IS PAID TO THE CONSULTANT, UH, FOR THE SAME FUNDRAISING EFFORTS AND PROGRAM MANAGEMENT FOR THE PROGRAM.

UH, BUT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT FOR Y'ALL AND, AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER 'EM.

BUT, SO, BUT JUST FOR A LITTLE BIT, A MORE, UH, CLARITY.

WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF MOVING INTO A, A NEW PHASE OF THE PLANO MAYOR SUMMER INTERNSHIP PROGRAM.

WE'RE TRYING TO SOLIDIFY KIND OF THAT SUBSTANCE FOR 10 MONTHS FOR THE PERSON THAT'S GOING TO BASICALLY RUN THE PROGRAM.

AND, UH, THIS WILL BE A NEW PERSON.

AND SO WE, UH, WE INTERVIEWED SEVERAL PEOPLE AND THEY ALL KIND OF HAD THESE SAME KIND OF RESTRICTIONS, BUT WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS GONNA HELP EXPAND THE PROGRAM, HAVE MORE STUDENTS BE ABLE TO HAVE INTERNSHIPS, AND SO THIS, THIS WILL PROBABLY, UH, BE ABLE TO GROW THE PROGRAM WHERE, AND, AND AGAIN, A LOT OF, A LOT OF OUR PROBLEMS WERE THE PANDEMIC, BUT I THINK EVEN COMING OUT OF THAT, WE HAVE A LOT OF COMPANIES THAT, THAT WANT TO BE INVOLVED, JUST DON'T KNOW HOW.

AND I THINK THIS'LL HELP, UH, BROADEN THAT, UH, POTENTIAL.

MOTION.

UH, MR. MAYOR, I THINK FIRST OF ALL, IF I MAY COMMENT, I'VE, I'VE WITNESSED THIS FIRSTHAND.

UH, UH, YOU'VE DONE A FABULOUS JOB, OF COURSE, AS A CARRY ON FROM THE PREVIOUS MAYOR HARRY RASSIER.

AND I CAN SAY THE STUDENTS WHOLEHEARTEDLY PARTICIPATE, AND I THINK IT'S A JOY TO SEE, UH, THE ACTIVITIES THAT THESE KIDS DO.

THEY DO A LOT OF GOOD WORK AND, UH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.

WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEM H SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION, A SECOND FOR AGENDA ITEM NUM OR CONSENT? AGENDA ITEM H, PLEASE VOTE.

MAYOR PRO TIM? YES.

ONE, PUBLIC HEARING IN CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE TO DESIGNATE A CERTAIN AREA WITHIN THE CITY OF PLANO AS TAX INCREMENT FINANCING REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER FIVE OF THE CITY OF PLANO, TEXAS.

COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH.

NEXT ITEM, PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. APPLICANTS ARE LIMITED TO 15 MINUTES PRESENTATION TIME WITH A FIVE MINUTE REBUTTAL IF NEEDED.

REMAINING SPEAKERS ARE LIMITED TO 30 TOTAL MINUTES OF TESTIMONY TIME WITH THREE MINUTES ASSIGNED PER SPEAKER.

THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY AMEND THESE TIMES AS DEEMED NECESSARY NON-PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL PERMIT PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA NOT POSTED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.

THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL ESTABLISH TIME LIMITS BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKER REQUEST, LENGTH OF THE AGENDA, AND TO ENSURE MEETING EFFICIENCY AND MAY INCLUDE A CUMULATIVE TIME LIMIT.

SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER REQUEST OR RECEIVED UNTIL THE CUMULATIVE TIME IS EXHAUSTED.

ITEM NUMBER

[(1) Public Hearing and consideration of an Ordinance to designate a certain area within the City of Plano as Tax Increment Financing Reinvestment Zone Number Five of the City of Plano, Texas; establishing the boundaries of such zone; creating a board of directors for said reinvestment zone, and other matters related thereto; providing a repealer clause; a severability clause; and an effective date.]

ESTABLISHING THE BOUNDARIES AS SUCH, ZONE CREATING A BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR SAID REINVESTMENT ZONE AND OTHER MATTERS RELATED THERE TOO.

PROVIDING A REPEAL CLAUSE, A SEVERAL BUILDING CLAUSE, AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

EVENING.

MAYOR COUNCIL PETER BRASS, DIRECTOR OF SPECIAL PROJECTS, UH, BEFORE YOU IS AN ITEM BRINGING BACK TO YOU TO FORMALIZE WHAT WE DISCUSSED IN OCTOBER, WHICH IS ESTABLISHMENT OF A TURDS IN THE LEGACY AREA.

UM, THIS ACTION AND PUBLIC HEARING IS ABOUT THE ESTABLISHMENT, NOT ABOUT HOW IT'S GONNA SPEND ITS MONEY, UM, THAT HAPPENS LATER.

UM, SO TONIGHT IS JUST THE ORDINANCE AND THE PROJECT, DRAFT, DRAFT PROJECT PLAN.

UM, AND THAT ALL COMES BACK TO YOU AGAIN AFTER THE BOARD.

ONCE YOU NAME THEM, REVIEWS IT, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR START THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS FOR PETER?

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THANKS, PETER.

THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS.

I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, CONFINE THE COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL.

ANTHONY? OH, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I DID HAVE A, A COMMENT.

SO I, I THINK, UH, THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A GREAT, UH, TOUR THAT'S GOING TO MOVE THE CITY FORWARD THROUGH A CRITICAL REDEVELOPMENT, UH, THAT WILL HELP MAKE PLANO A LIFE SCIENCES HUB.

SO I'M, I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THIS.

I DID HAVE ONE PIECE OF FEEDBACK ON THE PROJECT PLAN, WHICH IS THAT THE, UH, 2%, UH, PROJECTED ANNUAL GROWTH IS VERY CONSERVATIVE, WHICH IS GOOD.

YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO OVERSHOOT THAT, BUT IT ALSO MEANS THAT THERE'S A SUBSTANTIAL LIKELIHOOD THAT THE INCREMENT WILL EXCEED THAT.

AND THAT THE, UH, NEW REVENUE TO THE CITY THAT IS NOT NECESSARY FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, UH, OR FOR OTHER ACTIVITIES THAT WILL BE FORESEEN IN THE PROJECT PLAN, UH, COULD EXCEED THE AMOUNT THAT MIGHT BE EXPECTED BASED ON THAT PROJECTION.

SO, UH, WHEN THIS COMES BACK TO US, UH, I'D LOVE TO SEE LANGUAGE IN THE PROJECT PLAN THAT TALKS ABOUT HOW WE WILL USE, UH, EXCESS FUNDS IF WE END UP WITH, UH, INCREMENT THAT IS ABOVE THE PROJECTION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOW HOW THAT'S GOING TO BE USED, IDEALLY FOR PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE WITHIN THE TOUR ZONE.

AND THEN IF, UH, IF THERE ARE NO PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS WITHIN THE TOUR ZONE, RETURN TO THE GENERAL FUND.

SO IT CAN BE USED FOR INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, ELSEWHERE IN THE CITY.

AND I KNOW WE'RE NOT AS, AS, UH, PETER, YOU KNOW, TALKED ABOUT, WE'RE NOT CONSIDERING THE PROJECT PLAN TONIGHT, BUT I FIGURED RATHER THAN SEND THIS TO THE TOURS BOARD WILL BE APPOINTING AND THEN HAVE IT COME BACK TO US AND WE SAY, ACTUALLY, WE'D LIKE TO MAKE A CHANGE, SEND IT BACK TO Y'ALL, COME BACK TO US.

I THOUGHT, HEY, WE COULD, WE COULD GIVE THAT DIRECTION TONIGHT.

SO I WOULD, UH, I GUESS MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS, UH, UH, WITH THE ADDED DIRECTION THAT THE PROJECT PLAN BEFORE IT BE PRESENTED TO THE TOURISM NUMBER FIVE BOARD, UM, YOU KNOW, MAKE THAT CHANGE, THAT ADDITIONAL REVENUE BEYOND THAT PROJECTED IN THIS PROJECT PLAN WOULD BE USED FOR PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE TOUR ZONE.

OR IF THERE ARE NO SUCH NEEDS, UH, RETURNED TO THE GENERAL FUND, WE MAY HAVE TO COME BACK WITH OH, SOME, MAKE, MAKE SURE THAT, OH, AM I, AM I, UH, THAT'S LEGAL.

WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT NOTICED TO GIVE THAT KIND OF DIRECTION.

I SEE.

SORRY.

BUT WE, WE WILL DEFINITELY TAKE THAT, UH, UNDER CONSIDERATION.

WHEN WE GET, SORRY TO GET OUTSIDE OF THE NOTICE, BUT NO, NO, NO.

I, I, I CONCUR WITH COUNCILMAN RICK ELLIS SENTIMENT, AND I'LL SECOND WHATEVER LEGAL FORM THAT MOTION TAKES .

I, I THINK THE, THE BASE, THE BASE, UH, THE BASE ELEMENT IS THE CREATION OF THE TUR ZONE.

I THINK WE CAN TAKE THE GENERAL DIRECTION BACK AND BE ABLE TO BRING THAT BACK AT A DIFFERENT TIME.

BUT RATHER THAN, UH, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND AMENDING YOUR MOTION TO NOT HAVE THAT AS PART OF IT, I'LL AMEND MY MOTION TO JUST, UH, PASS THIS.

SORRY, MY, UH, MICROPHONE'S OFF.

I'LL, I'LL AMEND MY MOTION TO PASS THE ITEM AS PRESENTED AND CREATE TOUR NUMBER FIVE.

ARE YOU SECONDING THAT SHELBY? UH, YES.

SECOND.

AND, UM, DEPUTY MAYOR PROAM HAD A GOOD SUGGESTION TO ADD THAT AS A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM.

THERE YOU GO.

EVERYTHING COUNCIL JUST SAID.

YES, I WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT.

GREAT IDEA.

DEPUTY MAYOR.

THERE YOU GO.

ALRIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION.

IS SECOND TO APPROVE.

ITEM NUMBER ONE, PLEASE VOTE.

NUMBER TWO, PUBLIC HEARING IN CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE AS REQUESTED IN SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE AMENDMENT 2023 DASH ZERO FOUR TO AMEND ARTICLE ONE, GENERAL PROVISIONS, ARTICLE THREE, PLATING PROCEDURES AND ARTICLE SEVEN RETTING PROCEDURES OF THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE OF THE CITY.

YES, MAYOR.

COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH.

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ORDINANCE NUMBER 2017 DASH 11 DASH FOUR AS HERETOFORE AMENDED TO CLARIFY THE PLATTING PROCEDURES FOR PROPERTIES THAT RECEIVE ZONING VARIANCES FOR MINIMUM, MINIMUM YARDS, AND PROVIDING A PENALTY CLAUSE, A REPEAL CLAUSE, A SAVINGS CLAUSE, A SEVERAL BUILDING CLAUSE, PUBLICATION CLAUSE, AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

PETITIONER CITY OF PLANO.

GOOD EVENING MAYOR, COUNCIL AND EXECUTIVES.

I'M CHRISTINA DAY, THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING, AND THIS IS A SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE AMENDMENT.

UM, THE PURPOSE BEHIND THIS IS REALLY, UH, DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A DUPLICATIVE PROCESS WITHIN THE CITY RELATED TO PLATTS.

AND, UH, THAT'S BECAUSE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION CONSIDERS PLATTS UNDER THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE AND THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT CONSIDERS VARIANCES TO STANDARDS UNDER THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

AND, AND WHEN WE DEAL WITH BUILDING SETBACK LINES, UH, THAT REQUIRES ESSENTIALLY A TWOFOLD PROCESS FOR APPLICANTS.

SO THAT HAS PRESENTED

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A SOMEWHAT OF A HARDSHIP TO PEOPLE, UM, BECAUSE THE YARD AND SETBACKS IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE THEN, UH, REQUIRE ALSO BUILDING LINES TO BE PLACED WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE.

SO THERE'S TWO PROCESSES THEN.

SO A REPL APPLICATION NEEDS TO BE REVIEWED BY STAFF, GO THROUGH P AND Z ONCE THERE'S CONDITIONAL APPROVAL THAT GOES THROUGH TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, WHERE WE HAVE A VARIANCE APPLICATION THAT'S REQUIRED STAFF REVIEWS, THAT THERE'S A BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT MEETING, A VARIANCE IS APPROVED, A PLATT'S THEN RECORDED AND A PERMIT'S ISSUED.

SO ESPECIALLY FOR SOMEONE, A COMMERCIAL PROJECT, THEY'RE USED TO A LOT OF THIS.

BUT WHEN WE DEAL WITH A RESIDENTIAL PROJECT, PARTICULARLY, THIS IS A LOT FOR PEOPLE .

SO, UM, WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT MAYBE IT WOULD BE WORTHWHILE TO HAVE SOME ADMINISTRATIVE CHANGES HERE.

SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS THIS PROCESS, WHICH WE HOPE IS MUCH SIMPLER FOR EVERYONE, UM, IT WOULD BE SIMPLY THE VARIANCE PROCESS, SO PEOPLE WOULD GO THROUGH THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.

UM, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DID FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE WITH, ONCE THE VARIANCE IS APPROVED, HAVING THAT, UH, INFORMATION FILED OF RECORD BY THE APPLICANT THEMSELVES BEFORE A PERMIT'S ISSUED.

SO THAT IS ONE AMENDMENT HERE.

WE DID NOT HAVE ANY FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC ON THIS, UH, PROPOSAL, BUT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND THIS WITH A VOTE OF SIX TO ZERO.

SO THAT'S THE END OF MY PRESENTATION, BUT I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

ALRIGHT, DEPUTY MAYOR CHRISTINA, UM, JUST SO THAT I'M CLEAR, I'M KIND OF DENSE IN FOLLOWING THIS PROCESS.

SO CAN YOU GIVE LIKE AN EXAMPLE WHAT IT IS THAT A RESIDENTIAL, A DEVELOPER WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH NOW VERSUS WHAT IS IT GONNA BE IN THE FUTURE? CERTAINLY.

SO RIGHT NOW, UH, PEOPLE SUBMIT TWO DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS.

THEY SUBMIT A REPA PLATT APPLICATION.

UH, THEY ACTUALLY GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF HIRING A SURVEYOR TO PREPARE A PLAT, SUBMIT AN APPLICATION TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

STAFF REVIEWS THAT, THEY GO TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

AND THEN ONCE THEY GET THAT APPROVAL, THEY THEN MOVE TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT PROCESS THAT CAN BE CONCURRENT.

THEY'RE SUBMITTING A VARIANCE APPLICATION THAT'S GOING THROUGH A STAFF REVIEW.

SO WHY DO THEY HAVE TO DO A VARIANCE APPLICATION AFTER THEY'VE ALREADY GOT THE, THE PLATTING ALREADY DONE? BECAUSE THE PLATT IS PART, THE PLATT IS FILED AT THE COUNTY OF RECORD.

AND SO IN ORDER THAT IS NOT CHANGED BY THE VARIANCE, THE VARIANCE PROCESS SAYS, I DON'T HAVE TO MEET THIS REQUIREMENT GENERALLY, BUT THEN YOU'VE STILL GOT THAT RECORD AT THE COUNTY ONCE THE PLATT'S, BECAUSE THE PLATT'S STILL A RECORD AT THE COUNTY.

EVEN ONCE YOU'VE GOT YOUR VARIANCE, YOU HAVEN'T, IT DOESN'T CHANGE THAT RECORD THAT'S EXISTING.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'VE GOT THIS CONFLICT.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE PROPOSING THIS PROCESS.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF I GOT A PLATT AND THEN I, I'VE ALREADY GOT IT ALL REGISTERED AND, AND SUBMIT IT TO THE COUNTY, NOW I WANT TO RE REDEVELOP IT IN A CERTAIN WAY IN ACCORDANCE WITH CITY OF PLANO.

I HAVE TO GO THROUGH CITY OF PLANO TO DO THAT.

SO NOW WE'RE GONNA SIMPLIFY THE PROCESS BY DOING WHAT WE'RE SIMPLIFYING THE PROCESS TO SAY, IF YOU GO THROUGH THE VARIANCE PROCESS, THAT ESSENTIALLY GIVES YOU CREDIT FOR THE ACCOUNTING PROCESS.

EXACTLY.

GOT IT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

MAYOR, I HAVE A QUESTION.

GO AHEAD.

CHRISTINA.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE COMMISSION WANTING YOU TO CHANGE SOMETHING ABOUT YOUR RECOMMENDATION REGARDING THE APPLICANT, UM, FILING THE RECORD VERSUS THE CITY? SURE.

UM, PREVIOUSLY WHAT THE, THEY WANTED TRANSPARENCY, I BELIEVE, ABOUT THIS.

SO THEY ADDED THAT THE VARIANCE WILL BE RECORDED IN THE COUNTY RECORDS, UM, BY THE APPLICANT WITH PROOF OF RECORDING PROVIDED TO THE CITY PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT.

SO THAT'S THE, AND THAT THE STAFF WOULD DEVELOP A FORM TO PROVIDE TO THE APPLICANT FILING INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE APPROVED VARIANCE PURSUANT TO, UH, SUB TO THAT SUBSECTION.

SO THAT, UM, IS PART OF THAT PROCESS WHERE THE APPLICANT IS GOING TO PROVIDE PROOF OF RECORDING AND THE FORM, UM, IS GOING TO BE PROVIDED BY STAFF.

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SO WE'RE JUST SAYING THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO FILE SOMETHING WITH THE COUNTY AND SHOW PROOF THAT THEY DID THAT TO US? YES.

THAT WAY IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A RECORD THAT RUNS WITH THE PROPERTY TO ESSENTIALLY OFFSET THE IDEA BECAUSE THE PLATT IS NOT GONNA GO AWAY.

THE PLATT'S STILL GONNA BE A LAND RECORD AT THE COUNTY.

AND SO THE THOUGHT THERE IS THAT IF YOU'RE DOING A DEEDED SEARCH, YOU SEE THE PLATT, YOU SEE THAT SETBACK STILL ON THE PLAT, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE THIS VARIANCE RECORD THAT SHOWS THAT THAT LINE, THAT SETBACK APPEARED TO BE CHANGED.

EXACTLY.

THAT'S EXCELLENT, CHRISTINA.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR CHRISTINA? ALL, OH, SORRY, RICK, GO AHEAD.

THAT, THAT'S OKAY.

BEAR CHRISTINA.

WELL, I CAN STILL TALK HERE.

UH, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M ALL FOR ANYTHING THAT'S, UH, MORE EFFICIENT AND, UH, PROVIDES, UH, LESS HASSLE TO OUR RESIDENTS AND PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING BUSINESS IN THE CITY.

WHAT, WHAT I'D LIKE, UH, JUST A GUESSTIMATE, I'M SURE WE LOOK AT THIS, WHAT, WHAT KIND OF TIME SAVINGS DO, DO YOU THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE FOR, FOR PEOPLE THAT WILL BE USING THE NEW PROCESS THAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING VERSUS WHAT WE HAVE NOW? UM, I THINK THE, BECAUSE THESE PROCESSES CAN RUN CONCURRENTLY, UM, THE SUBSTANTIAL SAVINGS IS REALLY ON THE PLAT PREPARATION.

AND THE, THERE'S A SUBSTANTIAL COST SAVINGS I WOULD SUGGEST TOO, BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF PLAT PREPARATION.

SO I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST, BUT I WOULD SAY IT'S SUBSTANTIAL, UH, BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT TO FIND SOMEONE TO PREPARE THE PLAT AND PAY FOR THAT PLAT PREPARATION.

SO WHATEVER TIMEFRAME THAT IS, BE IT, I I WOULD SAY SOMEWHERE BETWEEN TWO AND THREE MONTHS.

ALL, NO, THAT, THAT, THAT'S ALL, THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO HEAR.

I HAVE ANY OTHER, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.

UH, IN THIS NEW STREAMLINED PROCESS, IF THE APPLICANT IS, SAY THAT VARIANCE IS NOT APPROVED, UH, WHAT IS THE PROCESS FOR THE APPLICANT AT THAT POINT? UM, THEN IF THIS IS NOT APPROVED, IT'S JUST GONNA ADD THAT ADDITIONAL TWO OR THREE MONTHS OF HIRING AND WAITING FOR THE PREPARATION AND, AND THE ADDITIONAL FEES OF, OF PAYING THAT FOR THAT PROCESS.

WOULD THAT, AT THAT POINT GO THROUGH P AND Z? IT WOULD THEN STILL GO THROUGH P AND Z AND THEN FOLLOW THE OLD PROCESS AGAIN WITH THE VARIANCE? EXACTLY.

YOU'RE BACK TO THAT, WHICH IS JUST STAYS WITH WHAT WE HAVE TODAY.

OH, I, I JUST HAD A, A COMMENT MAYOR, BUT I, I JUST WANTED TO, UH, THANK THE, THE PLANNING STAFF FOR THEIR WORK ON THIS.

THIS IS THE KIND OF THING WHERE I THINK IN A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS, YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT HAVE THE, IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT REALLY NOTICING A, A HUGE PROBLEM.

THE BURDEN IS ON SOMEBODY ELSE.

AND I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT WOULD OPERATE THAT WAY, BUT THIS JUST DEMONSTRATES HOW THE PLANNING STAFF AND THE, THE WHOLE CITY ORGANIZATION, YOU KNOW, LIVE OUR SERVE VALUES AND, AND, YOU KNOW, REALLY, UH, LIVE UP TO THE NAME OF THE CITY OF EXCELLENCE, TO TAKE A LOOK AT SOMETHING THAT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, CAUSING HUGE GLARING PROBLEMS AND SAYING, YOU KNOW, THIS COULD BE BETTER FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

THIS COULD BE MORE USER-FRIENDLY.

AND SO, I, I JUST, I THINK THIS IS, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE TALK ABOUT INNOVATION AND, YOU KNOW, BEING OPEN TO DOING THINGS A DIFFERENT WAY.

THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST SAYING, HEY, WE COULD IMPROVE ON THE STATUS QUO.

SO KUDOS TO Y'ALL.

ALRIGHT, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ANY SPEAKERS? THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS.

I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, CONFINE THE COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL.

MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO, PLEASE VOTE.

COUNCILMAN SMITH? YES.

ITEM NUMBER THREE, PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE AS REQUESTED IN ZONING CASE, 2023 DASH 0 2 7 TO AMEND ARTICLE 16, PARKING AND LOADING OF THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY ORDINANCE NUMBER 2015 DASH FIVE DASH TWO AS HERETO FOR AMENDED TO MODIFY OFF STREET PARKING REQUIREMENTS AND PROVIDING A PENALTY CLAUSE, A REPEAL CLAUSE, A SAVINGS CLAUSE, A SEVERAL BUILDING CLAUSE, A PUBLICATION CLAUSE, AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE, PETITIONER CITY OF PLANO.

MOTION PASSES EIGHT TO ZERO.

ITEM NUMBER THREE.

[(3) Public Hearing and consideration of an Ordinance as requested in Zoning Case 2023-027 to amend Article 16 (Parking and Loading) of the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance of the City, Ordinance No. 2015-5-2, as heretofore amended, to modify off-street parking requirements; and providing a penalty clause, a repealer clause, a savings clause, a severability clause, a publication clause, and an effective date. Petitioner: City of Plano ]

RIGHT.

UH, THIS ZONING CASE IS A

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REQUEST TO AMEND THE OFF STREET PARKING REQUIREMENTS.

IT IS INTENDED AS AN INTERIM MEASURE.

THE CITY IS UNDERGOING A FULL REVIEW OF PARKING AS PART OF A ZONING ORDINANCE UPDATE THAT IS KICKING OFF LIKELY IN THE SPRING.

THE COUNCIL SHOULD SEE A CONTRACT FOR THAT ON AN UPCOMING AGENDA, UH, FOR A FULL REVIEW OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE UPDATE THAT WAS FUNDED IN THE LAST, UH, BUDGET PROCESS.

SO THE CHALLENGES WE'RE EXPERIENCING ARE JUST THAT OUR EXISTING PARKING MINIMUMS, UM, ARE A CHALLENGE.

THEY'RE ROOTED IN REALLY, UM, OLDER STANDARDS AND ARE GEARED TOWARDS NEW CONSTRUCTION.

AND WE JUST DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH NEW CONSTRUCTION.

A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY IS REDEVELOPMENT.

UM, WE HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY IN THE ORDINANCE, BUT AGAIN, UH, IT'S USUALLY AT A SUBSTANTIAL EXPENSE.

AND SO, SO MUCH OF WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW WITH REDEVELOPMENT AND REPURPOSING OF BUILDINGS OR, OR ORDINANCE JUST DOESN'T MEET, IT DOESN'T RECOGNIZE NEW TECHNOLOGY AND MARKET TRENDS.

SO WE NEED AN INTERIM SOLUTION BECAUSE WE'RE JUST, AGAIN, BURDENING PEOPLE, UH, IN THE INTERIM.

SO WE ARE LOOKING TO SOLVE TWO ISSUES.

ONE CHALLENGES WITH USES THAT ARE DIFFERENT FROM THE ORIGINAL USE THAT WAS APPROVED ON THE SITE, BUT THAT STILL ALLOWED MY RIGHT IN THE ZONING DISTRICT.

AND SECONDLY, UH, CHALLENGES WITH SMALL INFILL SITES, REDEVELOPMENT AND EXPANSIONS THAT ARE UNABLE TO MEET THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS, UM, ALONG WITH OTHER REQUIREMENTS OF THE ORDINANCE.

SO WE DID A REVIEW OF EXISTING, UH, REQUIREMENTS IN OTHER CITIES, AND WE FOUND THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE ADMINISTRATIVE FLEXIBILITY OR CHANGE OF USE, FLEXIBILITY IN THEIR ORDINANCE.

THERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF CITIES IN TEXAS AND AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT ALLOW FOR, UH, FLEXIBILITY IN THEIR ORDINANCE RELATED TO PARKING.

SO BASED ON THAT, WE LOOKED AT OUR OWN ORDINANCE AND TRIED TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT WAS PRACTICAL FOR THE CITY.

AND THE PROPOSAL THAT IS BEFORE YOU WITH REGARD TO CHANGE OF USE IS REALLY, UH, SOMETHING THAT I THINK, UM, IS KIND OF A SELF-DETERMINATION.

IS THE WAY I LOOK AT IT.

WHERE THE OWNER TAKES RESPONSIBILITY FOR ONESELF.

IT'S LIKE, OKAY, I'M NOT GOING TO MEET THE CITY'S MINIMUM STANDARDS, BUT I'M GONNA TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR MY PROPERTY.

UM, SO THEY HAVE TO MANAGE THEIR OWN PARKING ON SITE.

JUST AGREE, HEY, IT'S, I KNOW I'M NOT MEETING THE MINIMUM, BUT I'M GOING TO MANAGE IT AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NOT AN ADVERSE EFFECT ON MY NEIGHBORS.

UM, THAT NEEDS TO BE FILED WITH THE COUNTY LAND RECORDS TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S TRANSPARENCY, IF THE PROPERTY SHOULD CHANGE HANDS, THAT WE KNOW THAT THAT IS REALLY CLEAR TO THE NEW BUYER THAT THEY HAVE TO MEET THAT OBLIGATION MOVING FORWARD.

UM, THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS GOVERNMENT DISTRICT'S EXCLUDED BECAUSE THAT'S EXCLUDED IN THE LANGUAGE TODAY.

THERE'S A NUMBER OF EXCLUSIONS IN THAT DISTRICT WHERE, UH, THE, THAT DISTRICT HAS CREDIT FOR PUBLIC PARKING OPTIONS, EXEMPTIONS TO PARKING, UM, REDUCED PARKING STANDARDS.

SO CONTINUING WITH THAT TYPE OF EXCLUSION FROM OTHER, UH, PARKING ALLOWANCES, THEN PROPOSED FOR INFILL REDEVELOPMENT OR EXPANSION IS A ADMINISTRATIVE REDUCTION OF 10% WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE DIRECTOR OR DESIGNEE, AND THEN 20% WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

AND THIS IS BASED ON STANDARDS THAT ARE LISTED IN THE ORDINANCE.

UM, AND THIS WOULD ALLOW FOR, UH, REMOVING EXISTING REDUCTIONS.

THERE'S ALSO STANDARDS IN THERE WHERE WE FOUND THERE MIGHT BE CONFLICTS, THINGS LIKE CONDOMINIUM OWNERS, BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE KNOWS, UM, IF ONE OWNER IS PROPOSING, OTHERS ARE AWARE AND IT DOESN'T CREATE HARDSHIPS ON OTHERS.

THAT WAS OUR PRIMARY FOCUS.

SO WE LOOKED AT THINGS LIKE PROPERTY STANDARDS, HOW MANY PARKING VIOLATIONS EITHER IN THE CITY TODAY TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE REALLY TRYING TO BE MINDFUL OF THE RIGHTS OF, OF EVERYONE CITYWIDE.

SO THIS IS CONSISTENT, WE BELIEVE, WITH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

WE'VE REFERENCED THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES, LAND USE POLICY, COMMUNITY DESIGN, AND REVITALIZATION OF RETAIL SHOPPING CENTER'S POLICY.

WE DID NOT GET RESPONSES REGARDING THIS.

AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH A VOTE OF SEVEN

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TO ONE.

SO WITH THAT, WE ARE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ON THIS AMENDMENT.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ITEM, ANTHONY? OH, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

SO, UH, FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS ANOTHER GREAT EXAMPLE OF INNOVATIVE THINKING THAT WILL ALLOW REDEVELOPMENT AND CHANGES OF USE.

I DID HAVE A, A QUICK QUESTION BECAUSE I SAW LANGUAGE IN THE ORDINANCE THAT SAYS, UH, IT IS AN OFFENSE FOR THE OWNER TO FAIL TO ADHERE TO THE LETTER AGREEMENT.

WHAT KIND OF AN OFFENSE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? WHAT DO WE ANTICIPATE WOULD HAPPEN? SUPPOSE SOMEBODY SAYS, YOU KNOW, SURE, I'LL MAKE SURE THERE'S NO IMPACT ON MY NEIGHBORS.

YOU, AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S OVERFLOW PARKING ALL OVER THE PLACE, UH, UM, ALL THE TIME.

WHAT TYPE OF ENFORCEMENT ACTION WOULD WE TAKE IN THAT SITUATION? UH, THAT LANGUAGE IS INCLUDED TO MAKE IT AN OFFENSE UNDER THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

SO IT WOULD BE, UH, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO PROSECUTE UNDER THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

AND IF SOMEBODY'S NOT COMPLYING WITH THE LETTER AGREEMENT, COULD THEY LOSE THE, UH, KIND OF WAIVER OF THE NORMAL PARKING REQUIREMENTS? OR, OR WHAT, WHAT WOULD, UH, I GUESS WHAT WOULD BE THE LIKELY OUTCOME OF A SUCCESSFUL ENFORCEMENT ACTION IF SOMEBODY'S NOT ADHERING TO THEIR LETTER AGREEMENT? I THINK IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE A ZONING VIOLATION RUN THROUGH PROPERTY STANDARDS.

SO IT WOULD BE THEIR NORMAL PROCESS WHERE THEY SEND A NOTICE OF VIOLATION, PEOPLE CAN COMPLY.

IF NOT, IT'S GOES THROUGH THE COURT PROCESS.

TYPICALLY, I BELIEVE IT'S A, A FINE IF THEY'RE NOT, IT'S A CLASSY MISDEMEANOR.

AND IF IT'S A HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUE, IT CAN BE UP TO 2000, OTHERWISE IT'S UP TO 500 SET BY THE JUDGE.

AND WOULD THAT BE 2000, YOU KNOW, PER VIOLATION? LIKE WOULD EACH DAY BE VIOLATION? VIOLATION? YEAH, EVERY, EACH AND EVERY DAY IT OCCURS AS A SEPARATE VIOLATION.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE MOST PEOPLE WOULD NOT DO THIS, BUT IF SOMEBODY WERE TO SIGN A LETTER AGREEMENT, NOT PERHAPS INTENDING TO ADHERE TO IT, THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, A SUFFICIENT STICK TO, YOU KNOW, TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DO SO ANYWAY, BUT I, I THINK THIS IS LIKE THE LAST ITEM, VERY INNOVATIVE AND WILL HELP SPUR REDEVELOPMENT.

SO THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, RICK? UH, JUST REAL QUICK, I THINK, UH, GETTING TO YOUR POINT, UH, COMMISSIONER RICK ELLI, UH, COUNCILMAN RICK ELLI.

I THINK REALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE, PARTICULARLY WITH WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE LETTER MM-HMM, THERE, ECONOMICS WILL DRIVE THAT MM-HMM.

BECAUSE IF THE BUSINESS, PARTICULARLY AS EXISTING BUSINESS, AND THEY REPURPOSE THAT BUSINESS AND IT BECOMES GANGBUSTERS AND IT ALL OF A SUDDEN INCREASES THE THREAT PEOPLE, NUMBER OF PEOPLE GOING ACROSS THE THRESHOLD, THEN THAT WILL TRIGGER WHERE THERE'S GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL PARKING REQUIREMENTS.

MM-HMM.

AND HE CAN'T SERVICE THOSE PEOPLE.

IF YOU CAN'T PARK TO GET THROUGH ACROSS THE THRESHOLD, YOU JUST WON'T GO THERE.

SO HE WOULD PROBABLY MORE THAN LIKELY HAVE TO RELOCATE.

SO THAT WAS REALLY MORE THE IMPETUS HERE OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WITH REGARDS TO, UH, THE SHARED SPACE, IF YOU WILL, FOR PARKING.

I REALLY LIKE THIS PART WHERE WE'RE TAKING THE APPROACH.

I DO AGREE WITH YOU TAKING THE INNOVATIVE APPROACH OF REDUCING OUR GRAY DESERTS, WHICH WE HAVE THROUGHOUT THE CITY, WHETHER IT'S NEIGHBORHOOD CORNERS OR IT'S, UH, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS.

AND IT FREES UP A LOT OF SPACE THAT WE CAN EITHER TURN GREEN SPACE OR REDEVELOPMENT FOR NEW BUILDINGS.

MM-HMM.

BUT I THINK WHEN WE LOOK AT THE ENFORCEMENT SIDE, THE ECONOMICS WILL DRIVE IT MORE THAN ANYTHING.

AND, AND THAT'S JUST KIND OF WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT.

YOU'RE SEEING THAT TODAY WHEN YOU GO TO A COFFEE SHOP ON INDEPENDENCE AND YOU CAN'T FIND ANY PARKING SPOT IN THE FRONT, SO YOU GO TO THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING AND USE ONE OF THE SPACES OVER THERE.

SO THAT'S JUST KIND OF AN OBSERVATION.

AND I THINK THE CITY, I THINK, UH, PLANNING'S DONE OUTSTANDING JOB ON THIS.

AND I LOOKED AT THE, THE MEETING THAT PNZ HAD ON THIS, AND IT WENT EXTRAORDINARILY LONG.

AND THE COMMENTS THAT WERE PRESENTED THERE WERE JUST FANTASTIC.

AND SO I THOUGHT WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION IS IS JUST FANTASTIC.

BUT ALL RIGHT.

THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS.

CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

CONFINE THE COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL.

A SECOND TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER THREE, PLEASE VOTE.

COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH? YES, THANK YOU.

MOTION PASSES EIGHT TO ZERO.

ITEM NUMBER FOUR, PUBLIC HEARING IN CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE AS REQUESTED IN ZONING CASE, 2023 DASH ZERO 20 TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY ORDINANCE NUMBER 2015 DASH FIVE DASH TWO AS HERETO FOR AMENDED.

ITEM FOUR,

[(4) Public Hearing and consideration of an Ordinance as requested in Zoning Case 2023-020 to amend the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance of the City, Ordinance No. 2015-5-2, as heretofore amended, so as to amend Planned Development-124-Neighborhood Office on 7.1 acres of land located on the east side of Independence Parkway, 810 feet north of 15th Street in the City of Plano, Collin County, Texas to modify development standards; directing a change accordingly in the official zoning map of the City; and providing a penalty clause, a repealer clause, a savings clause, a severability clause, a publication clause, and an effective date. Petitioner: City of Plano ]

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SO AS TO AMEND PLAN DEVELOPMENT, DASH 1 24 DASH NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE ON 7.1.

ACRES OF LAMB LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF INDEPENDENCE PARKWAY, 810 FEET NORTH OF 15TH STREET IN THE CITY OF PLANO, COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS, TO MODIFY DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, DIRECTING A CHANGE ACCORDINGLY IN THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP OF THE CITY AND PROVIDING A, A PENALTY CLAUSE, A REPEAL CLAUSE, A SAVINGS CLAUSE, A SEVERAL BUILDING CLAUSE, A PUBLICATION CLAUSE, AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

PETITIONER CITY OF PLANO.

ALRIGHT, THIS ZONING CASE 20 IS A VERY UNIQUE ZONING CASE BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY WAS INITIATED AS A PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT CASE FOR THE, UH, EASTERNMOST LOT.

UH, THAT PROPERTY WAS DEVELOPED AT ONE TIME, THE BUILDING WAS RAISED, BUT THE PAD IS STILL EXISTING.

SOMEONE WAS TRYING TO DEVELOP THAT DURING THE PLAN REVIEW PROCESS.

UH, LATE IN THE GAME, THEY DECIDED TO WITHDRAW THEIR REQUEST.

BUT THROUGH THE REVIEW PROCESS, STAFF DISCOVERED THAT THE MAJORITY OF LOTS IN THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, THAT NINE OUT OF THE 10 LOTS ARE DEVELOPED, DO NOT MEET THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT LANGUAGE FOR LOT COVERAGE.

SO IN DISCOVERING THIS, WE THOUGHT, UM, THIS IS NOT A GOOD SITUATION FOR THESE PROPERTY OWNERS.

SO IT COULD BECOME AN ISSUE WITH TITLE SEARCH OR SOMETHING ALONG THESE LINES.

SO THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO REALLY FIX THIS OUTSTANDING ISSUE.

THIS WAS A SITE PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED IN 1977 WITH THE ZONING, UM, AND IT SHOWS THE BUILDING FOOTPRINTS PRETTY MUCH AS THEY'RE BUILT.

SO HOW THIS CAME TO PASS, WE DON'T REALLY KNOW, UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE BUILT AS SHOWN WITH THE ZONING.

SO EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NON-COMPLIANT, WE DON'T THINK IT'S OUT OF THE SCOPE OF WHAT WAS INTENDED.

SO IT'S HARD TO PIECE IT TOGETHER.

UM, SO IT, IT MAKES SENSE IN OUR MINDS TO MAKE THEM COMPLIANT.

UH, SO WE'RE PROPOSING LANGUAGE THAT WOULD ESSENTIALLY, UM, BUILD IN COMPLIANCE FOR THE BUILDINGS AS THEY EXIST TODAY.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, UM, WE'VE MOVED FORWARD.

THIS IS THE LOCK COVERAGE.

UM, THIS IS THE OLD ROYAL CENTER SUBDIVISION, UM, UH, SITE PLAN.

YOU SEE THE MAXIMUM LOCK COVERAGE AT 30%.

THAT'S WHAT WAS, HAS ALWAYS BEEN.

AND, UM, SO THE PROPOSAL WOULD BE TO ADD LANGUAGE TO ALLOW, OR AS THE BUILDING SIZE WAS CONSTRUCTED PRIOR TO TONIGHT, UM, WHICHEVER'S GREATER.

SO WE WOULD ALLOW THOSE ADDITIONAL LOCK COVERAGE.

AND THOSE ARE ESTIMATED BY STAFF ON THE RIGHT SIDE, UM, BASED ON OUR REVIEW OF THE SITE.

SO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES SHOW THIS AS A COMMUNITY CORNER.

SO THE DEVELOPMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

IT DOES MEET THE DESCRIPTIONS AND PRIORITIES OF THE COMP PLAN.

WE DID GET A COUPLE OF RESPONSES WITHIN 200 FEET, ONE NEUTRAL AND ONE IN SUPPORT AND CITYWIDE.

WE DID HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL RESPONSE THAT WAS IN OPPOSITION.

UM, HOWEVER, THAT INDIVIDUAL DID NOT CHOOSE TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

SO THIS IS THE RECOMMENDED LANGUAGE.

UM, THE ADDITION BEING, UH, THE EVERYTHING BEYOND OR, AND WITH THAT, UM, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL AGAIN BY A VOTE OF EIGHT TO ZERO.

WE ARE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS, UH, REGARDING THIS ITEM? JUST SOME CLARIFICATION, CHRISTINE.

SO BASICALLY THIS LITTLE TINY AREA, UM, FOR SOME REASON WAS NOT IN COMPLIANCE.

THAT IS CORRECT.

AND SO NOW THE PROPOSAL IS TO BRING THEM INTO COMPLIANCE.

THAT'S CORRECT.

AND BY ADDING SOME, UM, SOME WORD LANGUAGE IN WHICH TO, UM, RESTRICT THE DEVELOPMENT OTHER THAN WHAT IS ALREADY THERE.

IS THAT WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING? THAT'S CORRECT.

AND IT, IT, IT REALLY IS A MYSTERY BECAUSE THE SITE PLAN WAS APPROVED BA BASICALLY A SIMILAR TIME, AND, AND IT, IT LOOKS TO BE THAT

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THE ZONING WAS APPROVED.

AND YOU'LL SEE THE SITE, I MEAN, THIS IS WHAT WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY, SO WE'RE NOT SURE WHY THAT WOULD'VE BEEN APPROVED.

BUT WAS IT ORIGINALLY TO BE RESIDENTIAL? NO, NO.

IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THIS OFFICE COMMERCIAL.

YEAH.

IT'S FOOD'S GARDEN OFFICE, RIGHT? SMALL OFFICE.

OFFICE.

THE RUSSIANS.

YEAH.

SO IN ANY EVENT, BUT IT'S NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH WHATEVER THE CORRECT.

THE ZONING, UH, PLAN WAS CORRECT AT THAT TIME.

WE JUST, WE REALLY CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHY, UM, THE DISCREPANCY EXISTS.

I SEE, I UNDERSTAND.

SO NOW WE'RE JUST CLEANING IT UP TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS BROUGHT INTO COMPLIANCE.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, SOMEONE ELSE WERE TO COME BACK AND TRY TO REDEVELOP IT, THEY WOULDN'T RUN INTO ANY PROBLEMS. THAT'S RIGHT.

THAT'S WHY THAT EASTERN MOST LOT, WE WERE REALLY HAVING PROBLEMS BECAUSE THEY, THEY WANTED TO REBUILD THE BUILDING ON THE EXISTING FOOTPRINT, AND THEN IT WAS NON-COMPLIANT WITH THE ZONING.

SO IT, IT SEEMED REALLY UNFAIR TO NOT ALLOW THAT, BUT IT WASN'T COMPLIANT WITH THE ZONING.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS? OKAY.

THANK YOU, KRISTINA.

THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS.

I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

CONFINE THE COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL.

MR. MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION.

WE APPROVE.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR, PLEASE VOTE.

COUNCILMAN SMITH? YES.

ITEM NUMBER FIVE, PUBLIC HEARING IN CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE AS REQUESTED IN ZONING CASE, 2023 DASH 0 2 6, TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY ORDINANCE NUMBER 2015 DASH FIVE DASH TWO AS HERETO FOR AMENDED GRANTING SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER SEVEN FOR NEW VEHICLE DEALER ON 5.4 ACRES OF LAND, LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF TENNYSON PARKWAY AND DALLAS PARKWAY IN THE CITY OF PLANO, COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS, PRESENTLY ZONED COMMERCIAL EMPLOYMENT, DIRECTING A CHANGE ACCORDINGLY IN THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP OF THE CITY AND PROVIDING A PENALTY CLAUSE, A REPEAL CLAUSE, A SAVINGS CLAUSE, A SEVERAL BUILDING CLAUSE, A PUBLICATION CLAUSE, AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

MOTION PASSES EIGHT TO ZERO.

ITEM FIVE.

[(5) Public Hearing and consideration of an Ordinance as requested in Zoning Case 2023-026 to amend the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance of the City, Ordinance No. 2015-5-2, as heretofore amended, granting Specific Use Permit No. 7 for New Vehicle Dealer on 5.4 acres of land located at the southwest corner of Tennyson Parkway and Dallas Parkway in the City of Plano, Collin County, Texas, presently zoned Commercial Employment, directing a change accordingly in the official zoning map of the City; and providing a penalty clause, a repealer clause, a savings clause, a severability clause, a publication clause, and an effective date. Petitioner: SRHC Platinum Park Phase II, LP ]

PETITIONER, SRHC PLATINUM PARK, PHASE TWO LP.

RIGHT, UH, ZONING CASE NUMBER 26 IS OUR FINAL, UH, ZONING CASE OF THE EVENING IS A REQUEST TO GRANT SUP NUMBER SEVEN FOR A NEW VEHICLE DEALER.

IT'S LOCATED, UH, PROPERTY'S LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF DALLAS PARKWAY AND TENNYSON PARKWAY.

THIS IS THE LOCATION, BOTH A LOCATOR MAP AND THE PROPERTY AS IT EXISTS TODAY.

UH, IT IS A UNDEVELOPED PIECE OF LAND, AND YOU CAN SEE THE NOTICE BOUNDARIES ON THE LEFT.

SO THIS IS THE PROPOSED PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN, UH, BUT FROM THE APPLICANT, UH, YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE PROPOSING A, UH, SOMEWHAT UNUSUAL DEVELOPMENT FOR A NEW VEHICLE DEALER.

IT IS A MULTI-STORY BUILDING, UH, THAT INCLUDES A PARKING GARAGE.

THIS IS THE BUILDING DESIGN, BOTH THE NORTH AND EAST ELEVATIONS.

YOU SEE A FIVE STORY BUILDING, UM, AND A TWO STORY STRUCTURE AS WELL ALONG THE TOLLWAY FRONTAGE.

THIS, THESE ARE THE WEST AND SOUTH ELEVATIONS, AND THESE RELATE DIRECTLY TO THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT STIPULATIONS THAT ARE PROPOSED, UM, TO BE INCLUDED TO REQUIRE THIS KIND OF NON-TRADITIONAL BUILDING DESIGN AS PART OF THE DEALERSHIP.

UM, SO THAT IT IS MORE SIMILAR TO THE OFFICE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS ENVISIONED BY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN THIS AREA.

SO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES DESIGNATE THIS PROPERTY AS AN EMPLOYMENT CENTER ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

IT'S DIRECTLY SOUTH OF THE URBAN ACTIVITY CENTERS AT THE UNDEVELOPED LAND POLICY.

DOES STATE THAT PLANO WILL RESERVE REMAINING LAND FOR HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT WITH DISTINCTIVE CHARACTER, PRIORITIZING

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BUSINESSES, OFFERING SKILLED EMPLOYMENT.

SO THAT'S A FOCUS OF THE ANALYSIS FOR THIS AREA.

UM, IT DOES, THE PROPOSAL DOES MEET, OR MOSTLY MEET THE MAJORITY OF COMP PLAN STANDARDS AND IS NEUTRAL TO OTHERS.

UM, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ISSUES ADDRESSED IN THE STAFF REPORT, INCLUDING THE NEW DEALER VEHICLE, UH, USE.

UM, THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF DEALERS APPROVED ALONG THE DALLAS NORTH HALLWAY SINCE 2004.

AND, UM, PART OF OUR CHALLENGE HAS BEEN THAT THESE ARE OFTEN DIFFICULT TO REUSE OR REDEVELOP.

AND WE FEEL LIKE THE FORM OF DEVELOPMENT IS WHAT'S UNIQUE ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL, AND THAT'S WHY THE STIPULATIONS ARE, UH, BEING PROPOSED AS PART OF THIS SUP.

UH, ADDITIONALLY, UNDEVELOPED LAND POLICY IS ADDRESSED AND, UH, THEREFORE THE ADJACENT USES ARE ALSO, UH, A CONSIDERATION.

SO YOU'LL SEE THE STIPULATIONS, UM, BEING A TWO STORIES FOR THE OFFICE AND SHOWROOM, UH, SERVICE AREA AND PARKING STRUCTURE DEALER OF THE DEALERSHIP AT FIVE STORIES AND 60 FEET AS THEY'RE AS PROPOSED, UH, AS THEY WERE ORIGINALLY SUBMITTED TO THE CITY.

UM, SERVICE BAYS ARE NOT ORIENTED TOWARDS THE PRIMARY STREETS AND CANOPIES AND SHADE STRUCTURES CAN BE CONSTRUCTED, UM, BUT ARE NOT ALLOWED WITHIN 60 FEET OF THE PRIMARY STREETS.

AND THEN AT LEAST 65% OF THE PARKING SPACES SHALL BE LOCATED INTERIOR TO A PARKING STRUCTURE.

SO WITH THAT, UH, THE, WE HAD NO RESPONSES WITHIN 200 FEET AND TWO RESPONSES, UH, CITYWIDE ONE OPPOSED, AND ONE IN SUPPORT.

THERE IS AN UPDATE TO THIS ORDINANCE.

WE HAD SOME CHALLENGES WITH THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION.

SO BOTH THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION ITSELF AS EXHIBIT A AND THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION THAT IS INCLUDED ON THE ZONING EXHIBIT HAVE BEEN REPLACED IN THE ORDINANCE.

SO THAT I BELIEVE HAS BEEN DISTRIBUTED TO THE COUNCIL, UM, AND IS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN.

SO THESE TWO EXHIBITS ARE BEING REPLACED IN THE ORDINANCE.

THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL BY A VOTE OF SEVEN TO ONE WITH STIPULATIONS AS NOTED IN THEIR REPORT TO THE COUNCIL.

AND WITH THAT, UH, THE APPLICANT DOES HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR YOU AND STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

MR. MAYOR COUNCIL.

UM, BILL DAHLSTROM, 23.

23.

ROSS, DALE, I'M GONNA JUST TAKE A FEW MINUTES.

UH, THIS IS REALLY AN EXCITING PROJECT.

I'M, I'M, I'M, I'M REALLY PRIVILEGED TO BE HERE ON BEHALF OF THIS REQUEST.

THIS IS, WE'RE MOVING THE PORSCHE DEALERSHIP FROM PARK, UH, PLANO PARKWAY TO THIS LOCATION.

A NEW INNOVATIVE CONCEPT AS FAR AS DEALERSHIPS GO, CALLING IT DESTINATION A PORSCHE.

AND I THINK IT HAS A LOT OF DIFFERENT CONNOTATIONS, BUT I THINK AS FAR AS THE CITY GOES, THESE PORSCHE DEALERSHIPS ARE DESTINATION FOR FOLKS OUTSIDE OF THE, THE CITY.

SO THIS IS GONNA PLAY A LOT OF DIFFERENT ROLES, UH, IN THE CITY.

I'D LIKE TO THANK CHRISTINA AND HER STAFF FOR THEIR HELP, UH, SHEPHERDING US THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

BUT WITH US TONIGHT, WE HAVE, UH, HARRY BRUMLEY, WHO'S, WHO'S WITH AUTONATION, WHO CAN PUT A LOT MORE COLOR BEHIND THE CONCEPT.

UH, BUT WE ALSO HAVE OUR TEAM OF ENGINEERS, ARCHITECTS ONLINE, UH, LUKE FRANZ ARE MY COLLEAGUES HERE.

WE, WE GOT A WHOLE TEAM HERE IN CASE ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS.

BUT I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO HARRY, LET HARRY GET INTO THE, UH, CONCEPT, UH, DESTINATION FORCE.

UH, RETAILERS OF AUTOMOBILES IN THE COUNTRY.

WELL, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

AND I WANT TO, I WANNA THANK P AND Z STAFF AGAIN.

YOU KNOW, I, I GOTTA TELL YOU SOMETHING.

WHAT A, WHAT A PROFESSIONAL GROUP.

AND WITHOUT THEIR TIME AND THEIR GUIDANCE IN THE PROFESSIONAL MANNER IN WHICH THEY'VE, THEY'VE GUIDED US THROUGH THIS, WE, WE WOULDN'T BE WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

AND, UH, AND I WANNA REALLY THANK YOU.

IT, IT, IT'S, IT'S REALLY BEEN, IT'S REALLY BEEN AMAZING.

UM, AUTONATION, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE'RE A PUBLIC COMPANY.

WE'RE ONE OF THE LARGEST,

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UH, WE HAVE 300 DEALERSHIPS FROM COAST TO COAST, AND WE HAVE TWO HERE IN PLANO, NOT JUST TO PORSCHE, BUT NEXT DOOR.

RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO PORSCHE IS AUDI AND PORSCHE.

AND AUDI TODAY ARE CRUSHED.

THEY ARE FABULOUS PREMIUM, UH, AUTOMOTIVE FRANCHISES.

WE'VE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL.

AND, AND WE, WE LOVE THESE, THESE FACILITIES.

WE LOVE THESE LOCA, WE LOVE THE LOCATION, BUT THE FACILITIES, BOTH FACILITIES ARE COMPLETELY OBSOLETE.

THEY'RE COMPLETELY OUTDATED.

WE ARE, WE ARE ON TOP OF ONE ANOTHER.

WE'VE TAKEN ALL SORTS OF STEPS TO TRY AND WORK AROUND THIS.

WE HAVE OFFSITE PARKING.

WE PURCHASED A, A REMOTE SERVICE FACILITY WHERE WE DO HEAVY SERVICE FOR BOTH OF THESE FRANCHISES JUST DOWN THE ROAD.

BUT THE, THE TIME IS HERE.

IF WE'RE GONNA GROW THESE FRANCHISES, IF WE'RE GONNA GROW THE EMPLOYMENT BASE THAT'S RELATED TO 'EM, WE'VE GOTTA DO SOMETHING.

SO, YOU KNOW WHAT WE DID? WE SAT DOWN AND WE TOOK A LONG LOOK AT THIS SITE AND WE SAID, OKAY, LOOK, LET'S SEE HOW WE CAN REDO THIS.

ALL RIGHT? WHERE WE ARE TODAY, THEY SHARE 10 AND A HALF ACRES WHERE THEY ARE TODAY.

YOU KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM IS THOUGH, GUYS? WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT A FACILITY LIKE THIS AND THE SUBSTRUCTURE IT TAKES TO SUPPORT THAT TYPE OF VERTICAL DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU GOTTA DO? TAKE OUR PORSCHE, WHERE IT IS TODAY, YOU'D HAVE TO COME IN, KNOCK THE BUILDING DOWN, COMPLETELY, REMOVE THE FOUNDATION, REWORK ALL THE SUBSTRUCTURE AND REBUILD.

IT MEANS WHAT DO YOU DO WITH PORSCHE IN THE MEANTIME? THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO PLACE TO PUT IT.

AND WE LOOKED, WE LOOKED ALL AROUND.

IS THERE A PLACE THAT WE COULD PUT THEM TEMPORARILY FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS WHILE WE COULD DO THAT, AND THEN COME BACK AND REDEVELOP AUDI? IT'S NOT THERE.

IT'S NOT THERE.

SO MY BOSSES CAME TO ME AND THEY SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU GOTTA GO IN, YOU GOTTA FIND A NEW PLACE.

WE GOTTA, WE GOTTA RELOCATE PORSCHE.

AND I SAID, OKAY.

WE STARTED, I STARTED TO WALK OUT AND THEY SAID, BUT, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? IT'S MORE THAN THAT.

IF WE'RE GONNA REBUILD PORSCHE, WE WANNA MAKE A STATEMENT.

PLANO IS A MARKET WHERE WE WANNA MAKE A STATEMENT DESTINATION.

PORSCHE HAS BEEN DEVELOPED IN A FEW OTHER PLACES, BUT NOT LIKE THIS.

FOLKS, THIS IS A $40 MILLION PROPOSITION.

THE BIGGEST I'VE EVER DONE.

I'VE BEEN WITH AUTONATION SINCE THE DAY, THE DAY THEY STARTED IN 1995.

AND I'M GONNA TELL YOU, THIS IS IT.

THIS IS AMAZING.

YOU KNOW, I MAY BE A LITTLE BIASED, BUT I'M GONNA TELL YOU SOMETHING.

CITY, CITY OF EXCELLENCE, THAT'S EXCELLENCE.

THAT'S PLANO.

THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT.

AND IF WE'RE GONNA DO THAT, I NEED A SITE THAT GOES WITH THAT.

I GOTTA HAVE THAT.

AND WHEN WE STARTED LOOKING AND WE FOUND THIS SITE AT TENNYSON, THIS IS IT.

THIS, THAT'S WHERE, THAT'S WHERE THIS MAKES SENSE.

NOW, YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA TELL YOU SOMETHING.

THIS, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO, TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

AND I KNOW IT'S A, IT'S A CHALLENGE.

WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA NEED YOUR SUPPORT WITH REGARDS TO THE, TO THE ZONING AND THE LAND USE.

BUT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR BOTH OF US, BECAUSE ONCE WE'RE DONE AND WE MOVE PORSCHE UP HERE, YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO, THEN WE CAN ADDRESS OUTING, AND WE CAN GROW BOTH FRANCHISES AND WE CAN ADD EMPLOYMENT AT BOTH PLACES.

AND WE'LL MAKE A STATEMENT THERE.

WE'LL MAKE A STATEMENT THERE AS WELL.

SO I'M JUST GONNA TELL YOU, THAT'S WHERE I AM ON THIS.

I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU'VE GOT, BUT WHEN, WHEN, WHEN, WHEN THEY SAID, THIS IS EXCITING, THIS ISN'T AS EXCITING AS IT GETS IN MY WORLD, THANK YOU AGAIN.

AND I'LL BE, I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, AND IF I CAN'T, THESE GUYS CAN THANK YOU, HARRY.

I APPRECIATE IT.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? GO AHEAD, SHELBY.

I'LL, UH, TIP MY HAND BY SAYING I LOVE THE CONCEPT, BUT, UM, WHEN YOU, WHEN IT DOES COME TIME TO ADDRESS AUDI FOR THE SAME REASONS THAT YOU COULDN'T JUST RAISE AND REBUILD THE PORSCHE DEALERSHIP ON THE EXISTING SITE, UH, WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU HAVE IN MIND TO DO WITH THE AUDI DEALERSHIP? AH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

WE'LL MOVE IT OVER TO WHERE PORSCHE USED TO BE.

'CAUSE THERE'S 10 AND A HALF ACRES THERE.

SO WE TAKE AUDI WHERE THEY ARE TODAY, WE SCOOT 'EM OVER TO WHERE PORSCHE USED TO BE.

'CAUSE AUDI ACTUALLY HAS THE BETTER SPOT.

THEN WE CAN COMPLETELY DESTROY THAT SITE, TAKE OUT THE FOUNDATIONS, AND WE CAN REBUILD A DESTINATION TYPE OF FACILITY THERE.

THEN WE'LL HAVE FIVE ACRES LEFT.

RIGHT? AND THIS IS THE BEST PART.

WE CAN CLEAR THAT AND BRING ANOTHER FRANCHISE IN WITH MORE EMPLOYMENT AND MORE INCOME.

YOU BET.

WELL, SINCE I ALREADY TIPPED MY HAND, I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE.

WE GOOD ANYMORE? ALL RIGHT.

I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

CONFINE THE COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL.

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SECOND, I'LL SECOND.

OH, THERE YOU GO, RICK.

THANKS.

WE GOTTA MIX IT UP A LITTLE.

CONSIDERATION TO APPROVE AN EXPENDITURE FOR LEGISLATIVE CONSULTING SERVICES TO PURSUE PASSAGE OF LEGISLATION AUTHORIZING THE CITY OF PLANO TO ENGAGE IN QUALIFIED HOTEL PROJECTS FOR INITIAL 18 MONTH TERM WITH 1 24 MONTH CITY OPTIONAL RENEWAL AND THE AMOUNT OF $126,300 FROM BTA PROFESSIONAL SERVICE LLC AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS.

I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE, PLEASE VOTE AS AMENDED.

AS AMENDED.

EXCUSE ME.

I APOLOGIZE.

COULD WE, COULD WE MAKE SURE THAT'S FOR FORMALITY? UH, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS AMENDED AND CORRECTED.

GO AHEAD AND SECOND AGAIN, JULIE.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE VOTE.

SO WE HAVE A, UH, A SEVEN AND ONE ABSTENTION.

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ALL RIGHT, WELL, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THIS IS A FOLLOW UP TO MY, UH, PREVIOUS PRESENTATION AT AN EARLIER MEETING, UH, REGARDING, UH, PLAINTIFF BECOMING AUTHORIZED TO ACCESS THIS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOL.

UH, I DID WANNA MAKE THE, THE DISTINCTION, THIS IS NOT IN RELATION TO ANY SPECIFIC PROJECT.

THIS IS JUST OUR, UM, ENGAGING, UH, LOBBYIST TO MOVE FORWARD, UM, THIS NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION IN AUTHORIZING THE CITY OF PLANO TO UTILIZE THIS TOOL.

OF COURSE, IF WE IDENTIFY A PROJECT IN THE FUTURE THAT WE THINK THIS TOOL WOULD WORK FOR, WE'D BRING IT BACK, UH, TO THE, THE COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WOULD, AND I, UH, WE PUT IT ON INDIVIDUAL 'CAUSE I UNDERSTAND CERTAIN COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE, UM, DISAGREEMENT ON IT, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE AND PROVIDE ANY OTHER DETAIL IN REITERATING MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THIS IS FOR A SINGULAR, UH, I ISSUE THAT THE, UH, THE LOBBYIST WOULD BE WORKING AND THEY WOULD STILL BE WORKING UNDER THE DIRECTION OF, UH, ANDREW, BUT THEY WOULD HAVE SOME LATITUDE TO REPRESENT US, UH, ALONG THOSE LINES.

SO WE WOULD HAVE IT AS CONTROLLED AS POSSIBLE, UNDERSTANDING THE, UH, THE, UH, CHALLENGES WITH, UM, BEING ABLE TO WORK THE LEGISLATURE.

SO, UH, WE'RE GOING TO, UH, SUGGEST THAT WE TRUST ANDREW TO BE ABLE TO SUPERVISE THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, UNDERSTANDING SOME OF THE, UM, LATITUDE THAT MAY BE REQUIRED FOR THIS.

ANTHONY? OH, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

SO, UH, THIS IS BASICALLY REITERATING WHAT I SAID LAST TIME.

I THINK IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL FOR THE CITY OF PLANO TO HAVE ACCESS TO THIS TOOL.

AND I ALSO REALLY DO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THE IDEA THAT THIS LOBBYIST HAS WORKED ON EVERY SUCCESSFUL PROJECT THAT, THAT, THAT IS, THAT HAS GOTTEN THIS APPROVAL.

SO I, I REALLY COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THE REASON THAT THIS IS BEING RECOMMENDED.

AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, I, I'VE JUST, YOU KNOW, SAID I'M CATEGORICALLY OPPOSED TO TAXPAYER FUNDED LOBBYING, SO I'LL BE VOTING NO ON THIS, AND I WANNA ISSUE A CHALLENGE TO THE LEGISLATURE.

YOU KNOW, IF WE DON'T DO THIS AND OTHER CITIES GET THIS AND, AND, AND WE'RE NOT IN THAT BILL, THEN WHOEVER'S CARRYING THAT BILL, YOU KNOW, THEY NEED TO BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR THAT.

WHOEVER'S NOT GETTING US THAT TOOL, YOU KNOW, IF THE LEGISLATURE IS GOING TO SAY, WE WANT TO GET RID OF TAXPAYER FUNDED LOBBYING, THE LEGISLATURE NEEDS TO BE ACCESSIBLE TO PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT LOBBYISTS.

SO I, I THINK WITH THAT CHALLENGE, I THINK WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GET 'EM TO DO IT EVEN WITHOUT A LOBBYIST.

UH, UH, I'LL, BUT, UH, I UNDERSTAND THE REASON WE'RE DOING THIS.

I'LL, I'LL VOTE NOW.

ANYBODY, GO AHEAD, SHELBY.

UH, TO ECHO THE SAME SENTIMENTS I'M ALL FOR, UM, ADDING THIS TOOL FOR QUALIFIED HOTEL PROJECTS, I FEEL VERY PASSIONATELY THAT TAXPAYER FUNDS SHOULDN'T BE USED TO DIRECTLY LOBBY THE LEGISLATURE, NOT COUNTING A WHOLE HOST OF OTHER PURPOSES.

UM, NOTHING ABOUT MY, UH, FAITH IN DIRECTOR FORTUNE, WHICH IS CONSIDERABLE.

UM, BUT, UH, I'LL HAVE TO BE VOTING NO ON THIS AS WELL, AND I'M HAPPY TO VOLUNTEER MYSELF TO LOBBY THE LEGISLATURE DIRECTLY.

SO IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE SCALE AND THE SIZE.

COUNCIL MEMBER HOLMAN, UM, I JUST, I, I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS.

HOW MUCH DID YOU SAY WE COULD POTENTIALLY SAVE ON, UH, OBJECT GET BACK REBATED IF WE, SO IT REALLY WILL DEPEND ON WHAT THE PROJECT IS.

UM, JUST AS A REFRESHER, IT WOULD OPEN UP ACCESS TO US WITHIN A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OF THE PROJECT.

WE WOULD NOT ONLY GATHER OUR TRADITIONAL HOT TAX FUNDS, WE WOULD ALSO HAVE THE STATE'S PORTION.

WE WOULD ALSO HAVE THE STATE'S PORTION OF ALL SALES TAX FUNDS GENERATED IN THERE.

SO WE, WE GET THE, THE 2 CENTS, WE'D ALSO GET THE 6.25.

IT COULD BE SUBSTANTIAL.

I MEAN, OTHER PROJECTS, THE DALLAS OMNI, I THINK GROSSED OVER $40 MILLION.

UM,

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UH, WE ALSO ARE OF THE SIZE, UM, IN THE POPULATION THAT WE COULD USE THIS TOOL MORE THAN ONCE, UH, SHOULD FUTURE COUNCILS DECIDE TO.

SO, UM, AT MINIMUM, I, I STRONGLY RECOMMEND WE JOIN OUR, OUR CITIES IN THE REGION TO ADD THIS TO OUR TOOL BELT.

SO FOR WHAT WAS THE AMOUNT? A HUNDRED AND A HUNDRED TWENTY SIX HUNDRED TWENTY SIX, A HUNDRED TWENTY $6,000, WE COULD POTENTIALLY GET MILLIONS OF DOLLARS BACK TO THE TAXPAYERS.

THAT IS CORRECT.

UM, TO ME, I EQUATE THIS LIKE, YOU KNOW, I COULD GET TURBOTAX AND DO MY OWN TAXES, BUT IF I CAN GET A PROFESSIONAL WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE DOING FOR A REASONABLE AMOUNT AND GET MY MONEY BACK 10 FOLD, A HUNDRED FOLD, THEN IT MAKES SENSE TO DO THAT.

SO I THINK THAT'S A WISE USE OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS.

AND I'M, I'M HAPPY THAT YOU BROUGHT THIS TO OUR ATTENTION.

ANY COMMENTS, RICK, OR ANY COMMENTS? RICK OR CASEY? OKAY.

NO, NO COMMENTS.

ALL RIGHT, THANKS.

I, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX, PLEASE VOTE.