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I NOW DECLARE THAT THE PLAINTIFF CITY COUNCIL HAS RECONVENED AN OPEN SESSION THAT ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.
MAYOR PRO TEM CASEY PRINCE WILL BE ON ZOOM TONIGHT.
WE'LL BEGIN TONIGHT'S REGULAR MEETING WITH THE INVOCATION LED BY DR.
REVEREND BRUCE PRATT AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND TEXAS PLEDGE LED BY JUNIOR GIRL SCOUT TROOP 2171 WITH HICKEY AND DOOLEY ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.
WOULD YOU PLEASE RISE? LET US PRAY.
LORD GOD, I WANNA START WITH THE SPIRIT OF THANKS.
GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO GATHER IN A PLACE AND DELIBERATE REPRESENTATIVE, UH, ISSUES THAT ARE PERTINENT TO OUR LOCAL TOWN AND GATHER IN A, IN A PLACE OF FREEDOM, FREE FROM HARM AND MALICE.
LORD GOD, I ASK THAT TONIGHT, WHATEVER ISSUES ARE BROUGHT AND BUSINESS ITEMS ARE BROUGHT BEFORE THIS COUNCIL, THAT YOUR MIND WOULD BE BROUGHT TO BEAR.
LORD GOD, I ALSO ASK A SPECIAL PRAYER FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THEIR FAMILIES, AND FOR ALL THOSE WHO OCCUPY LEADERSHIP POSITIONS IN VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS OF THE TOWN, LORD, FAMILIES OF LEADERS OFTEN BEAR A SILENT BURDEN THAT MOST PEOPLE DON'T SEE AS THEIR LOVED ONES SERVE.
SO I PRAY THAT THEIR FAMILIES TODAY, TONIGHT WOULD HAVE PEACE AND GRACE.
FINALLY, LORD GOD, THERE ARE MANY FAITHS THAT MAKE UP THE FABRIC OF PLANO, MINDFUL AND RESPECTFUL OF ALL OF THEM.
I SUBMIT THIS PRAYER TO YOU ON THEIR BEHALF.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR RICHES STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL, HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD.
WHAT HAPPENED? ALL THE BLUE IS PRETTY DO YOU I GOT RED.
ARE YOU GOOD? DID YOU WANT RED? YOU WANT BLUE? OKAY.
HAS EVERYBODY GOT ONE? OKAY, LET'S TAKE A PICTURE.
DON'T WE'RE SUPPOSED TO YOU COME HERE, COME HERE.
I KNOW WE'RE TAKING A PICTURE.
OH, YOU GUYS GOT, I HAD STICKERS AND MY WORMS. THANKS, CHIEF.
HERE YOU TWO COME RIGHT HERE IN FRONT OF ME.
OKAY, I WILL, I'LL COME OVER HERE FOR MY MIC.
[Presentation: The Sons of the American Revolution are presenting Public Service Awards and honoring several City of Plano First Responders.]
SO TONIGHT WE HAVE A, UH, THE ANNUAL PRESENTATION AND WE'RE ALWAYS EXCITED ABOUT THIS.SO THE SONS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION, OUR PRESENTING PUBLIC SERVICE AWARDS AND HONORING SEVERAL CITY OF PLANO FIRST RESPONDERS.
SO I'D LIKE TO CALL FOR FORWARD MEMBERS OF THE NATIONAL SOCIETY
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OF SONS OF AMERICAN REVOLUTION, PLANO CHAPTER, BOB JOHNS, VP AND COLOR GUARD COMMANDER DUANE CARTER, CHAPTER REGISTRAR AND GENEALOGIST.KEVIN ENNIS, VP FOR MEDALS AND AWARDS.
OH, YOU HAVE A MIC? WELL, WE DO NOW.
SO, ON BEHALF OF THE PLANO CHAPTER OF THE SONS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION, WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL FOR GIVING US THIS OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE AND HONOR SEVERAL OUTSTANDING PUBLIC SERVANTS IN THE COMMUNITY.
THE SONS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION IS A GROUP CONSISTING OF MEN WHO HAVE DOCUMENTED THAT THERE ARE DESCENDANTS OF MEN WHO SERVED, UH, WHO, WHO WHO SERVED IN THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR.
WE ARE A NON-PROFIT NONPARTISAN ORGANIZATION, AND WE OPERATE IN THE TRADITION OF CIVIC ORGANIZATIONS SUCH THAT ALEX DE TOCQUEVILLE, 200 YEARS AGO, CONSIDERED TO BE AN ESSENTIAL PART OF DEMOCRACY IN AMERICA, SITUATED IN BETWEEN INDIVIDUALS AND THEIR REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT.
WE ARE INVOLVED IN SEVERAL PROJECTS, UH, SUPPORTING, UH, ROTC, PARTICULAR VETERANS, UH, SCOUTING, ROTC, AND I THINK I SAID THAT TWICE, AND SCHOOLS, AND WE HELD MONTHLY MEETINGS, UH, OVER HERE AT THE OUTBACK STEAKHOUSE.
UH, HERE WHERE WE HAVE PRESENTATIONS ABOUT THE HISTORY AND THE CIVIC ORGANIZATIONS IN OUR AREA.
WE OFTENTIMES HAVE MEN TELL THE STORIES ABOUT THEIR REVOLUTIONARY ANCESTORS AND HOW THEY CONTRIBUTED TO OUR COUNTRY.
SEVERAL OF US HAVE OBTAINED UNIFORMS OF THE REVOLUTIONARY UNIFORMS OF THE ERA AND PARTICIPATED IN THE COLOR GUARD.
MANY OF US ARE ALSO DEEPLY INVOLVED IN STUDYING US HISTORY AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE HISTORY AND HOW THAT IS IMPORTANT TO THE EVENTS OF TODAY.
AND NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE PRESENTATION.
DO YOU WANT TO, DO YOU WANNA ANNOUNCE THOSE? WELL, I CAN.
UH, MAY I CALL FORWARD POLICE CHIEF ED TRAIN? YAY.
AND MAY I CALL FORWARD DETECTIVE STEVEN HOWELL? GO AHEAD AND GIVE IT TO CHIEF.
AS, UH, DETECTIVE HOWELL COMES DOWN, I'LL JUST TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHY WE ARE BRINGING HIM DOWN.
EVERY SPRING WE HAVE AN AWARDS, UH, BANQUET AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND AMONGST, UH, UH, AND ONE AND TWO OF THE AWARDS, WE, WE, UH, SELECT PEOPLE FOR ARE SWORN OFFICER OF THE YEAR AND CIVILIAN EMPLOYEE OF THE YEAR.
DETECTIVE STEVEN HOWELL WAS SELECTED AS OUR DETECTIVE OF THE YEAR, AND I'LL JUST TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HIM ON WHY THAT WAS THE CASE.
SO WE WON'T TALK ABOUT ALL OF THOSE, BUT I'LL JUST GIVE YOU ONE CASE IN PARTICULAR.
IN ONE CASE, DETECTIVE HOWELL IDENTIFIED A GROUP OF SUSPECTS THAT WERE STEALING FORD F TWO 50 PICKUP TRUCKS, THE EXPENSIVE ONES.
AFTER A DETAILED INVESTIGATION, HE COORDINATED AN ARREST OPERATION THAT RESULTED IN THE RECOVERY OF APPROXIMATELY $150,000 OF VEHICLES AT A HOTEL IN FRISCO.
IN ANOTHER CASE, A DETECTIVE FROM GRAND PRAIRIE, UH, CONTACTED DETECTIVE HOWELL ABOUT A SUSPECT IN PLANO COMMITTING, UH, ECM VEHICLE THEFTS.
UH, WHAT DOES ECM STAND FOR? ELECTRONIC CONTROL MODULE.
SEE, THAT'S WHY WE GOT HIM IN THERE.
ULTIMATELY, THE SUSPECTS WERE ARRESTED AND LINKED TO 20 ADDITIONAL VEHICLE THEFTS IN THE DFW AREA.
AND YET ANOTHER CASE HE WAS ABLE TO IDENTIFY AND LOCATE SUSPECTS THAT WERE TARGETING OLDER MODEL CHEVY PICKUPS.
UH, IN, UH, EAST PLANO, DETECTIVE HOWELL COORDINATED A SURVEILLANCE OPERATION THAT RESULTED IN THE ARREST OF TWO SUSPECTS THAT DRASTICALLY REDUCED THE NUMBER OF, UH, SIMILAR VEHICLE THEFTS.
DETECTIVE HOWELL ALSO WORKS CLOSELY WITH AUTO THEFT DETECTIVES FROM OTHER AGENCIES IN THE DFW AREA, AND AS A RESULT, HE HAS ASSISTED IN RECOVERING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN STOLEN VEHICLE PROPERTY.
AND, AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, IN THE CATEGORY THAT DETECTIVE HOWELL WAS SELECTED IN, THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 340 ELIGIBLE OFFICERS FOR THAT.
I, AS THE CHIEF, HAVE NO SAY IN WHO'S SELECTED BY THAT.
HE'S, UH, NOMINATED BY HIS PEERS AND THEN
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SELECTED BY A COMMITTEE OF, OF OFFICERS AND EMPLOYEES FROM ACROSS THE DEPARTMENT.UH, DETECTIVE STEVEN HOWELL HAS BEEN AWARDED THE LAW ENFORCEMENT ACCOMMODATION MEDAL AND RECOGNITION OF OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENT AND DEDICATION TO THE MAINTENANCE OF LAW AND ORDER.
AND MAY I CALL FORWARD OUR CIVILIAN OF THE YEAR, DENISE ALVAREZ.
DENISE WAS ALSO SELECTED AT, UH, AT OUR, UM, AWARDS BANQUET BACK IN THE SPRING AS OUR CIVILIAN EMPLOYEE OF THE YEAR.
AND, UH, AND IN HER CATEGORY, THERE WAS ABOUT 160 IN ELIGIBLE EMPLOYEE.
I HAVE NO SAY IN WHO IS SELECTED FOR THAT.
WE HAVE A COMMITTEE OF, OF THE SAME COMMITTEE THAT SELECTED STEVEN, ALSO SELECTED DENISE.
UH, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT DENISE.
DURING 2022, SENIOR ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT, DENISE ALVAREZ SHOWCASED THE CRITICAL ROLE SHE PLAYS IN THE PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS UNIT.
SHE HELPS COORDINATE THE HIRING, UH, PROCESS FOR ALL SWORN AND CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES.
SHE ALSO ASSISTS WITH THE OUTPROCESSING OF ALL EMPLOYEE SEPARATION.
DENISE WORKS CLOSELY WITH, UH, THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT TO ENSURE EVERY NEW HIRE AND SEPARATION IS PROCESSED CORRECTLY AND EFFICIENTLY.
DURING 2022, DENISE ASSISTED WITH 336 BACKGROUND INVESTIGATIONS FOR SWORN AND CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES.
SHE ALSO, OR APPLICANTS, SHE ALSO ASSISTED WITH THE UNPRECEDENTED NUMBER OF RETIREMENTS AND RESIGNATIONS THAT TOOK PLACE IN 2022.
DESPITE THIS SIGNIFICANT INCREASE TO HER WORKLOAD, DENISE MAINTAIN HER USUAL, UH, THOROUGH AND HIGH QUALITY WORK.
DENISE PLAYS A KEY ROLE IN THE CASE MANAGEMENT OF EVERY, UH, BACKGROUND AND ADMINISTRATIVE INVESTIGATION, ALONG WITH THE MAINTENANCE OF ALL DEPARTMENTAL AND PERSONNEL ADMINISTRATIVE FILES.
MANY OTHER DEPART DEPARTMENT EMPLOYEES GO TO DENISE FOR ADVICE AND GUIDANCE REGARDING THE DAILY FUNCTIONS OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
DENISE WORKS IN A VERY PROMPT MANNER TO ENSURE THAT EVERYONE NEEDING PROFESSIONAL, UH, STANDARDS UNIT SERVICES RECEIVES TIMELY ASSISTANCE.
DENISE IS A TRUE PROFESSIONAL WHO CONSISTENTLY DEMONSTRATES HER INTENSE COMMITMENT TO THE SUCCESS OF THE PLANO POLICE DEPARTMENT.
DENISE ALVAREZ HAS BEEN AWARDED THE BRONZE GOODS CITIZENSHIP MEDAL IN RECOGNITION OF NOTABLE SERVICES ON BEHALF OF OUR AMERICAN PRINCIPLES.
AND MAY I CALL FORWARD FIRE CHIEF CHRIS BIGGERSTAFF, CHIEF, AND MAY I CALL FORWARD FIRE DEPARTMENT FIREFIGHTER OF THE YEAR, TREVOR CARPENTER? WELL, IN SIMILAR FASHION TO WHAT THE POLICE DO, WE'D ALSO DO AN AWARDS BANQUET IN THE EARLY IN THE YEAR, FEBRUARY.
AND, UH, TREVOR HERE, HE WAS OUR, UH, FIREFIGHTER OF THE YEAR, AND THAT'S, THAT'S PROBABLY THAT AND OUR PARAMEDIC OF THE YEAR.
THOSE ARE OUR TWO MOST PRESTIGIOUS AWARDS THAT WE, THAT WE GIVE OUT EACH YEAR.
AND, UH, IN, IN TREVOR'S CASE, I'LL TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HIM.
HE, HE'S BEEN WITH OUR DEPARTMENT SINCE, UH, FEBRUARY OF 2017.
HE IS ONE OF TWO IN THE WHOLE DEPARTMENT THAT IS, HAS FINISHED THE SMOKE DIVER TRAINING.
THAT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING LIKE YOU MIGHT BE DIVING OUT OF AN AIRPLANE OR
WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THAT GOING ON THERE.
THIS IS ACTUALLY A VERY EXTENSIVE, UH, CLASS, UH, WHERE IT REALLY TRIES YOU PHYSICALLY AND MENTALLY.
AND, UH, HE'S ONE OF TWO IN THE DEPARTMENT THAT'S COMPLETED THAT HE'S ALSO A PART OF, OF OUR SPECIALTY TEAM.
UH, WE ALSO REFER TO IT AS OUR, IS OUR USAR TEAM.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S SPECIAL ABOUT, UH, BEING CHOSEN HERE IS THAT THAT'S A, THAT'S A, A GROUP OF HIGH PERFORMING INDIVIDUALS, AND THEY'RE THE ONES WHO NOMINATED TREVOR FOR THIS AWARD.
THEN HIS PEERS VOTED FOR HIM FOR THIS AWARD HERE.
SO, TREVOR CARPENTER IS OUR FIREFIGHTER OF THE YEAR.
UH, TREVOR CARPENTER HAS BEEN AWARDED THE FIRE SAFETY ACCOMMODATION AWARD AND RECOGNITION OF ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND OUTSTANDING CONTRIBUTIONS TO PROTECT HUMAN LIFE AND PROPERTY BY PREVENTING INJURIES OR CASUALTIES DUE TO FIRES.
AND NOW, MAY I CALL FORWARD PARAMEDIC OF THE YEAR LEE JENNINGS.
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LEE JENNINGS IS OUR, IS OUR PARAMEDIC OF THE YEAR.LEE'S AN OUTSTANDING FIELD PARAMEDIC, AND HE AND I USED TO WORK TOGETHER, UH, AT CENTRAL FIRE STATION.
SO WE'VE MADE MANY CALLS TOGETHER.
AND SO I, I'VE PERSONALLY WITNESSED HOW, HOW GOOD A JOB HE DOES ON SCENE.
BUT SINCE THAT TIME HE'S BRANCHED OUT.
WE HAVE A, WHAT'S CALLED A PARAMEDIC OR A COMMUNITY PARAMEDIC PROGRAM.
AND WHAT THEY DO IS THEY GO OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE HIGH, SOME HIGH RISK PATIENTS IN THE COMMUNITY.
THEY IDENTIFY THEM, THEY'LL GO OUT, WORK WITH THOSE PATIENTS, TRY TO, UH, KEEP THEM FROM HAVING TO CALL 9 1 1 AND INTERVENE FOR 'EM.
AND, AND LEE'S BEEN DOING THAT FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW.
AND HE IS EVEN BRANCHED OUT AND IS LEADING NOW OUR, OUR OVERDOSE PREVENTION TEAM THAT, THAT WE HAVE AS WELL.
SO LEE IS OUR PARAMEDIC OF THE YEAR.
LEE JENNINGS HAS BEEN AWARDED THE EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES AWARD IN RECOGNITION OR OF DEDICATION TO THE PRESERVATION OF LIFE AND HEALTH UNDER EMERGENCY CONDITIONS AND PERFORMING BEYOND THE DUTIES NORMALLY CALLED WITHIN THE EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES PROFESSION.
LAST AWARD TONIGHT MAY I CALL FORWARD PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR SUSAN CARR AND PSC SPECIALIST OF THE YEAR.
SIMILAR TO POLICE AND FIRE EACH YEAR, WE RECOGNIZE OUR TELECOMMUNICATORS THAT DURING TELECOMMUNICATOR WEEK FOR THE OUTSTANDING JOB THAT EACH OF THEM DO THIS YEAR, GABBY CHASE WAS SELECTED AS OUR PSE SPECIALIST OF THE YEAR.
UH, SHE HAD HIGH COMPLIANCE IN HER CALL TAKING EMERGENCY MEDICAL DISPATCH, POLICE AND NCIC DISPATCHING.
SHE BEGAN TRAINING NEW RECRUITS LAST YEAR AND HAS A POSITIVE AND HELPFUL ATTITUDE.
SHE READILY VOLUNTEERS TO HELP OTHERS IN THE ROOM DURING HIGHER ACTIVITY TIMES.
SHE HAS A STRONG WORK ETHIC AND WAS AN UNOFFICIAL LEADER ON HER SHIFT AT THE TIME, AND HAS SINCE BECOME A SHIFT LEAD IN CHARGE OF THE SHIFT WHEN THE SUPERVISOR IS NOT THERE.
SHE WAS SELECTED AS OUR SPECIALIST OF THE YEAR FOR HER EXCEPTIONAL SERVICE TO OUR CITIZENS AND TO OUR INTERNAL PARTNERS.
GABBY CHASE HAS BEEN AWARDED THE BRONZE GOODS CITIZENSHIP MEDAL IN RECOGNITION OF NOTABLE SERVICES ON BEHALF OF AMERICAN PRINCIPLES.
MR. MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR THE TIME, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE APPRECIATE THE INVITATION.
[OATHS OF OFFICE]
THE OATH OF OFFICER BEING GIVEN TONIGHT TO CITIZENS WHO WILL BE SERVING ON CITY BOARDS AND COM COMMITTEES.AND I ASK THAT MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE TO AND, AND ATTENDANCE, PLEASE COME FORWARD FOR THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.
KAREN ESA, MANSUR KARIMI, AND JAN, TRUE FOR CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION.
NICK CAGLE AND SHERRY LEVINE FOR HERITAGE COMMISSION, DEBBIE BARRIOS, MICHAEL HOLLAND.
AND FOR SENIOR ADVISORY BOARD, GLORIA MARSH, FAR Y'ALL, BURKE AND SAMMY YANG.
THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE AND FOR SERVING ON THESE BOARDS AND COMMITTEES MEANS SO MUCH TO THE CITY COUNCIL IN, UH, MAKING DECISIONS ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF PLANO.
SO IF YOU'LL RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT YOU'LL FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES OF THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS OF THE CITY OF PLANO, STATE OF TEXAS, AND WILL TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY, PRESERVE, PROTECT, AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES AND OF THIS STATE AND THE CHARTER AND ORDINANCES OF THIS CITY? AND YOU FURTHERMORE, SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT YOU HAVE NOT DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY PAID, OFFERED, OR PROMISE TO PAY, CONTRIBUTED NOR PROMISED TO CONTRIBUTE ANY MONEY OR VALUABLE THING OR PROMISED ANY PUBLIC OFFICE OR EMPLOYMENT AS A REWARD TO SECURE YOUR APPOINTMENT.
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YOU.WE GOTTA MAKE IT WORTH YOUR WHILE TO COME.
[CERTIFICATES OF APPRECIATION]
AND FOR THE, UH, THE FINAL, UH, CEREMONY, WE, WE HAVE CERTIFICATES OF APPRECIATION, UH, FOR THOSE THAT HAVE SERVED.AND I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM TO COME UP AND HELP ME, UH, DISTRIBUTE THESE CERTIFICATES OF APPRECIATION.
SO WITH THE ANIMAL SHELTER ADVISORY COMMITTEE, KAREN DUBROW AND MADELINE NORRIS.
FROM THE BUILDING STANDARDS COMMISSION.
PETER KRAUS AND ANDREW LINQUIST.
WE YOU WANT THESE OUT? THANK YOU.
FROM THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION, FABIAN GORDON AND MISTY HOY.
COME HERE, MARIA, I'M GONNA HUG HER.
CONGRATULATIONS FOR THE HERITAGE COMMISSION.
SPENCER, HOW YOU DOING? I'M GOOD.
ALRIGHT, COME ON OVER HERE FOR THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD.
PARKS AND REC PLANNING BOARDS.
WE WILL HAVE A COUNSELING SESSION LATER.
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COME OVER HERE.MARIA, LET'S GEORGE, GET IN THE MIDDLE.
THIS IS YOUR OH, OH, BETTY SHOWED UP.
FROM THE SENIOR ADVISORY BOARD, STEVEN BOLEN, CAROL GRAY, DORF, AND CAROL ROMMEL.
AND THE LAST ONE IS TAX INCREMENT FINANCING.
REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER TWO AND THREE.
MARTHA ORIN, BRIDGET TAYLOR AND ROY WILSHIRE.
THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING IS TO ALLOW UP TO THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER WITH 30 TOTAL MINUTES ON ITEMS OF INTEREST OR CONCERN AND NOT ON ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE CURRENT AGENDA.
THE COUNCIL MAY NOT DISCUSS THESE ITEMS, BUT MAY RESPOND WITH FACTUAL OR POLICY INFORMATION.
THE COUNCIL MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA, AND WE DO NOT HAVE ANY SPEAKERS THIS EVENING.
OKAY, WELL, THAT'S A FIRST FOR A WHILE,
[CONSENT AGENDA]
UM, LET'S MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.THE CONSENT AGENDA WILL BE ACTED UPON IN ONE MOTION AND CONTAINS ITEMS WHICH ARE ROUTINE.
AND TYPICALLY NON-CONTROVERSIAL ITEMS MAY BE REMOVED FROM THIS AGENDA FOR INDIVIDUAL DISCUSSION BY A COUNCIL MEMBER, THE CITY MANAGER, OR ANY CITIZEN.
THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL ESTABLISH TIME LIMITS BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKER REQUESTS.
TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA, PLEASE VOTE.
[(1)
Public Hearing and consideration of a Resolution to approve the terms and conditions of an Interlocal Agreement and Memorandum of Understanding by and between the City of Plano, the City of McKinney, the City of Frisco, and the Collin County Sheriff’s Office for the disbursement of the 2023 Edward Byrne Justice Assistance Grant funds; authorizing its execution by the City Manager; and providing an effective date.
]NEXT ITEM, PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. APPLICANTS ARE LIMITED TO 15 MINUTES PRESENTATION TIME WITH A FIVE MINUTE REBUTTAL IF NEEDED.REMAINING SPEAKERS ARE LI LIMITED TO 30 TOTAL MINUTES OF TESTIMONY TIME WITH THREE MINUTES ASSIGNED PER SPEAKER.
THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY AMEND THESE TIMES AS DEEMED NECESSARY.
NON-PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL PERMIT PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA NOT POSTED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL ESTABLISH TIME LIMITS BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKER REQUESTS, LENGTH OF THE AGENDA, AND TO ENSURE MEETING EFFICIENCY AND MAY INCLUDE A CUMULATIVE TIME LIMITS SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER.
THE REQUESTS WERE RECEIVED UNTIL THE CUMULATIVE TIME IS EXHAUSTED.
ITEM NUMBER ONE, PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION TO APPROVE THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT AND MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BY AND BETWEEN THE CITY OF PLANO, THE CITY OF MCKINNEY, THE CITY OF FRISCO, AND THE COLLIN COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE FOR THE DISBURSEMENT OF THE 2023 EDWARD BYRNE JUSTICE ASSISTANCE GRANT FUNDS AUTHORIZING ITS EXECUTION BY THE CITY MANAGER AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
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GOOD EVENING.UH, I AM HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE, UH, BURN JUSTICE ASSISTANCE GRANT, UH, WHICH IS, UH, TYPICALLY CALLED THE JAG GRANT.
UH, THIS IS A, JUST A, UH, UH, US DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE GRANT THAT'S SENT TO ALL 50 STATES.
AND, AND PART OF THAT MONEY IS ALSO DESIGNATED FOR CERTAIN, UH, JURISDICTIONS WITHIN THOSE STATES.
IT'S BASED OFF OF, PRIMARILY BASED OFF OF THE VIOLENT CRIME RATE AND THE POPULATIONS FOR JURISDICTION.
SO THE GRANT THAT WE RECEIVED, AND IT WAS ABOUT $76,292 WAS THE AMOUNT THAT WE RECEIVED.
AND IT COVERS THE JURISDICTIONS OF PLANO, UH, MCKINNEY AND FRISCO.
AND, AND THERE IS AN ALLOCATED AMOUNT FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE JURISDICTIONS.
UH, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE DOES NOT GET A SPECIFIC ALLOCATION, BUT THE THREE CITIES HAVE TO AGREE ON AN AMOUNT FOR THE SHERIFF.
WE'VE GOT A SET FORMULA THAT WE USE FOR THAT.
SO EACH OF US GIVES UP 25% OF OUR AWARD TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
AND SO THAT LEFT PLANO WITH, UH, $27,670 AND THEN LESSER AMOUNTS FOR EACH ONE OF THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS.
UH, WE PLAN TO USE THOSE FUNDS TO PURCHASE PRECISION RIFLES FOR OUR MARKSMEN ON OUR SWAT TEAM.
AND, UM, UH, AND WE ALSO SERVE AS THE FISCAL AGENT FOR THESE FUNDS FOR THE OTHER CITIES.
SO WHEN THEY GET THEIR PROJECTS READY, THEY'LL SUBMIT 'EM TO US AND THEN, UH, WE'LL BRING THOSE BEFORE THIS COUNCIL.
SO ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO THE JU AND THE REASON THAT, UH, THESE ARE RELATIVELY SMALL DOLLAR AMOUNTS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE REASON THIS BEING PRESENTED HERE IS THAT'S PART OF THE FEDERAL STATUTE THAT COVERS JAG GRANT.
IT REQUIRES, UH, BOTH THAT WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER HAS TO SIGN OFF ON THE APPLICATION.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR ANY QUESTIONS AT ALL? OKAY.
ARE THERE ANY SPEAKERS? THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.
I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, CONFINE THE COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL.
I HAVE A MOTION, A SECOND TO APPROVE.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE, PLEASE VOTE.
CASEY, HOW DO YOU APPROVE? HOW DO YOU VOTE? PLEASE VOTE.
SO MOTION PASSES EIGHT TO ZERO.
WELL, CASEY, SHE VOTED RIGHT? YEAH, SHE CAME ON.
SHE SAID, YEAH, I, BUT SHE'S GONE AGAIN.
[(2) Public Hearing and consideration of an Ordinance as requested in Zoning Case 2023-003 to amend the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance of the City, Ordinance No. 2015-5-2, as heretofore amended, so as to rezone 99.0 acres of land located at the southeast corner of Legacy Drive and Parkwood Boulevard in the City of Plano, Collin County, Texas, from Commercial Employment to Planned Development-62-Commercial Employment; directing a change accordingly in the official zoning map of the City; and providing a penalty clause, a repealer clause, a savings clause, a severability clause, a publication clause, and an effective date. Petitioner: EDS Legacy Partners, LLC (Tabled at the August 14, 2023, and September 11, 2023, City Council meetings.) ]
ITEM NUMBER TWO.ITEM NUMBER TWO, PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE AS REQUESTED IN ZONING CASE.
2023 DASH THREE TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY.
ORDINANCE NUMBER 2015 DASH FIVE DASH TWO AS HERE TO FOR AMENDED.
SO AS TO REZONE, 99 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF LEGACY DRIVE AND PARKWOOD BOULEVARD IN THE CITY OF PLANO, COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS.
FROM COMMERCIAL EMPLOYMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT 62 COMMERCIAL EMPLOYMENT, DIRECTING A CHANGE ACCORDINGLY IN THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP OF THE CITY AND PROVIDING A PENALTY CLAUSE, A REPEAL CLAUSE, A SAVINGS CLAUSE, A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, A PUBLICATION CLAUSE, AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
I'M CHRISTINA DAY, THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING.
THIS IS ZONING CASE 20 23 0 0 3.
AND IT, UH, DOES COME BEFORE YOU WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL BY A SIX ZERO VOTE FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
UM, HOWEVER, UH, I BELIEVE THERE ARE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS, UM, AND SOME INTEREST IN PERHAPS MODIFICATIONS FROM THE COUNCIL.
SO I DO HAVE A PRESENTATION THAT I'D BE GLAD TO GIVE YOU.
I KNOW THE APPLICANT ALSO HAS A PRESENTATION, UM, BUT I WILL, UH, PROVIDE THAT PRESENTATION AT YOUR REQUEST.
UM, SO WITH THAT, I WILL SEE THE TIME, UH, MR. MAYOR, UH, GIVEN, UH, SOME LOOSE ENDS, UH, IN CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF AND THE DEVELOPER TODAY, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, TABLE THIS ITEM UNTIL SUCH TIME AS IT'S READY.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO, UH, AND A SECOND TO TABLE, UH, GEN ITEM TWO BASED ON SOME INFORMATION WE'RE STILL TRYING TO COLLECT.
AND, UH, UH, SO, UH, RATHER THAN OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, I'LL, I'LL BE GLAD TO, UH, ASK EVERYBODY TO VOTE.
COULD I GET CLARIFICATION? IS THAT TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING? AS OF NOTICE, UH, WE, WE PROBABLY NEED SOME DIRECTION FROM YOU.
SO WE DIDN'T WANNA PUT A DATE ON IT.
I THINK TO PRESERVE NOTICE WE SHOULD TABLE TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.
I, I WILL THEN AMEND MY MOTION TO TABLE TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.
UH, SHOULD WE SUSPEND THE PUBLIC HEARING
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OR STILL HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING? WE CAN SUSPEND IT THAT WAY.WE DON'T, UH, GO AHEAD, DEFER TEXT.
UH, WE CAN, UM, DEFER IT UNTIL WE ACTUALLY, UM, HAVE THE NEW STIPULATIONS.
I THINK THAT STAFF IS STILL TALKING WITH THE DEVELOPER ABOUT ADDRESSING SOME OF THE CITIZEN CONCERNS.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE MAY HAVE DIFFERENT COMMENTS BASED ON THE INFORMATION, THE INFORMATION THAT THEY RECEIVE.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO TABLE.
HOW DO YOU VOTE, CASEY? YEAH, SHE SAID YES.
SO A MOTION PASSES EIGHT TO ZERO.
[(3) Public Hearing and consideration of an Ordinance as requested in Zoning Case 2023-014 to amend Article 8 (Definitions), Article 14 (Allowed Uses and Use Classifications), Article 15 (Use-specific Regulations), and Article 16 (Parking and Loading) of the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance of the City, Ordinance No. 2015-5-2, as heretofore amended, to allow commercial drone delivery hubs and to include provisions for advanced air mobility aircraft; and providing a penalty clause, a repealer clause, a savings clause, a severability clause, a publication clause, and an effective date. Petitioner: City of Plano ]
ITEM NUMBER THREE, PUBLIC HEARING IN CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE AS REQUESTED IN ZONING CASE 2023 DASH 14 TO AMEND ARTICLE EIGHT, DEFINITIONS OF ARTICLE 14, ALLOWED USES AND CLASSIFICATIONS.ARTICLE 15, USE SPECIFIC REGULATIONS.
AND ARTICLE 16, PARKING AND LOADING OF THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY ORDINANCE NUMBER 2015 DASH FIVE DASH TWO AS HERETOFORE AMENDED TO ALLOW COMMERCIAL DRONE DELIVERY HUBS AND TO PROVIDE PRO TO INCLUDE PROVISIONS FOR ADVANCED AIR MOBILITY AIRCRAFT, PROVIDING A PENALTY CLAUSE, A REPEAL CLAUSE, A SAVINGS CLAUSE, A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, A PUBLICATION CLAUSE, AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
ALRIGHT, CASE, UH, 14 IS A ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT RELATED TO, UM, DRONES AND, UH, PROVISIONS OF ADVANCED AIR MOBILITY AIRCRAFT.
SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR SOME TIME DATES BACK TO THE SUMMER OF 2022.
AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SLIDE, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HAS HELD A NUMBER OF, UM, HEARINGS AND DISCUSSIONS ON THIS ITEM.
LOCAL REGULATION DOES KIND OF FALL INTO TWO CATEGORIES HERE.
UM, THERE ARE SOME VERY SPECIFIC AREAS THAT THE CITIES CANNOT REGULATE.
UM, THERE'S PREEMPTION BY THE FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION.
UM, FLIGHT PATHS, ALTITUDE, NUMBER OF FLIGHTS, PACKAGE CONTENT, THINGS LIKE THAT ARE VERY MUCH RESTRICTED.
SO WE HAVE BEEN COOPERATING THROUGH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WITH THE ATTORNEYS AT THE FAA TO REVIEW THESE STANDARDS.
UM, CITIES CAN REGULATE THE LOCATION OF HUBS AND OTHER, UH, GROUND-BASED FACILITIES.
SO WE'VE BEEN REALLY LOOKING AT THE LAND USE ELEMENTS OF THESE REGULATIONS.
SO FOR BACKGROUND INFORMATION, WE'VE SORT OF CLASSIFIED IN TWO DIFFERENT WAYS.
YOU HAVE DRONES THAT ARE DELIVERING ITEMS. UM, SO WE'VE LOOKED AT THINGS LIKE PACKAGES.
THESE ARE GENERALLY UNDER 55 POUNDS, BUT THEY COULD BE LARGER.
WE ALSO HAVE WHAT I'LL REFER TO, UM, AS AIR TAXIS, UH, TO GIVE YOU A CONCEPT OF WHAT WE'RE SAYING, BUT THIS IS REALLY ADVANCED AIR MOBILITY IS THE TECHNICAL TERM.
AND SO WE'VE TRIED TO ADDRESS BOTH OF THESE EMERGING TECHNOLOGIES THROUGH OUR ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS.
SO THAT INCLUDES THREE NEW DEFINITIONS TO AMENDED DEFINITIONS, INCLUDING THOSE IN THE USE TABLES, AS WELL AS SOME USE SPECIFIC REGULATIONS IN THE ORDINANCE.
SO THE AMENDED DEFINITIONS IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE TODAY, WE HAVE HELIPORT AND HELLA STOP.
IT DIDN'T TAKE MUCH OF A CHANGE TO MAKE THOSE EFFECTIVE FOR AIR TAXIS.
JUST CHANGING THE SPECIFIC TERM OF HELICOPTER TO MAKE THAT A LITTLE MORE BROADLY INCLUSIVE OF, UM, HOWEVER, WE DID NEED NEW DEFINITIONS TO ADDRESS DRONE, UH, DRONE DELIVERY.
SO YOU'LL SEE THESE TWO DIFFERENT CATEGORIES WE HAVE FOR LARGE DRONES.
THAT DOES INCLUDE SMALL DRONES AS WELL.
THAT'S SORT OF THE WHOLE GAMUT.
AND THEN SMALL IS 55 POUNDS, IT'S UNDER 55 POUNDS.
SO WE'VE GOT THESE TWO DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATIONS WORKING WITHIN THE ORDINANCE.
THE DRONE STAGING AREA IS A PART OF THE, UH, PRIOR DEFINITION AND REALLY INVOLVES THE TAKEOFF AND LANDING AREA IS THE PRIMARY FOCUS OF THAT DEFINITION.
SO THE ZONING DISTRICT USE TABLES, UM, CLASSIFY TWO DIFFERENT MANNERS.
SO WE'VE ALLOWED DRONE DELIVERY TO, AS AN ACCESSORY TO A LOT OF DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS WITHIN THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
THINGS LIKE FOOD STORES, RESTAURANTS, RETAIL STORES, ANYTHING THAT COULD HAVE PACKAGE TYPE DELIVERIES.
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ALSO, WAREHOUSING AND DISTRIBUTION CENTERS THAT COULD HAVE LARGER DISTRIBUTION OPPORTUNITIES.ALSO, A PRIMARY USE, UM, IS LIMITED TO LOCATIONS THAT WE THOUGHT WAREHOUSING WAS REALLY APPROPRIATE.
THINGS WHERE WE THOUGHT A LOT OF ACTIVITY WAS ALREADY OCCURRING.
SO THAT'S THE COMMERCIAL EMPLOYMENT LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS.
SO THIS IS A MAP OF THE IMPACT, UH, CITYWIDE.
SO YOU SEE IT'S PERMITTED AS A PRIMARY OR ACCESSORY USE IN THE PURPLE AREA, AND THEN ONLY AS AN ACCESSORY USE, UH, AGAIN TO A, A DIFFERENT TYPE OF ALLOWED PRIMARY USE IN THE RED AREA ON THE SCREEN.
SO THE USE SPECIFIC STANDARDS, THIS REALLY TALKS ABOUT HOW, UH, THE OPERAT NOT REALLY, WE OBVIOUSLY CAN'T OPERATE, UH, DEAL WITH OPERATIONS, BUT THE LAND USE IS MANAGED UNDER THE ORDINANCE.
SO SIGN LOCATION SCREENING OF THE STAGING AREAS.
UM, IT DISCUSSES BUFFER REQUIREMENTS, PARKING AND LOADING REQUIREMENTS.
AND THEN ALSO ALLOWS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO WAIVE SCREENING AND REDUCE THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR THESE USES BECAUSE THERE ARE RETROFIT TO SO MANY EXISTING SHOPPING CENTERS OR OTHER EXISTING COMMERCIAL SITES.
SO IN SUMMARY, UH, WE ARE LOOKING TO AMEND THE DEFINITIONS TO ALLOW THESE TYPE OF AIRCRAFT.
UM, NEW DEFINITIONS ARE BEING ADDED TO ALLOW COMMERCIAL DRONE DELIVERY HUBS.
THERE'S ALSO USE SPECIFIC STANDARDS THAT WILL HELP US, UH, FIT THESE INTO THE ZONING ORDINANCE CONSISTENT WITH OTHER SIMILAR USES OR SUPPORTIVE USES.
AND THE INTENT WAS TO SUPPORT A MEASURED IMPLEMENTATION.
THIS IS AN EMERGING TECHNOLOGY, SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE, UM, LOOKING AT WHAT EXISTED TODAY, BUT ALSO SHOWING A MEASURE OF CAUTION AND HOW WE IMPLEMENT THIS AND HOW IT IMPACTS NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES.
AND THEN AGAIN, LOOKING AT CONSISTENCY WITH OTHER USES AND STANDARDS ACROSS THE ORDINANCE.
UM, THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH, UH, THE LAND USE POLICY AND TWO LAND USE ACTION STATEMENTS IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION POLICY AND ITS IMPACT THERE.
WE HAVE RECEIVED SIX TOTAL RESPONSES, UM, AS OF NOON, OCTOBER 20TH.
UM, WE DID HAVE THREE DUPLICATE RESPONSES FOR A TOTAL OF NINE RESPONSES ALTOGETHER FOR WITH OPPOSITION AND TWO NEUTRAL RESPONSES.
UM, SOME OF THOSE, UH, UNIQUE RESPONSES WERE OUTSIDE THE CITY, UM, TOO NEUTRAL AND TOO OPPOSED.
UH, WERE FROM IN FOR EITHER INDIVIDUALS OR ENTITIES OUTSIDE OF PLANO.
SO THAT, UH, REALLY WRAPS UP MY PRESENTATION.
UM, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL, UH, BY A VOTE OF SIX TO TWO, AND WE ARE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE ON THIS CASE.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THANK YOU.
WHEN PREVIOUSLY WHEN WE SAW THIS, UM, I, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT COUNCIL, MY EXPERIENCE WITH THE P AND Z COMMISSION THAT WE, WE WEREN'T REALLY TALKING ABOUT AIR TAXIS AT THAT TIME.
WE WERE TALKING REALLY FOCUSING ON THE DRONES.
UM, BECAUSE WHEN YOU START BRINGING IN AIR TAXI, IT MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLICATED AS FAR AS THE LOGISTICS OF, UM, HOW WE'RE ABLE TO INTEGRATE THAT INTO OUR ORDINANCES BECAUSE OF FAA REGULATIONS, INCLUDING THE SMALL DRONES, UH, REGULATIONS.
UM, ARE YOU STARTING TO SEE A NEED OR HAS SOMEONE ACTUALLY COME TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO, TO DISCUSS THESE, UH, AIR TAXIS AND, UM, I JUST KIND OF WANNA KNOW WHY WE TOOK THIS LEAP, IF YOU WILL, INTO THE LARGER DRONES.
UM, WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE A REQUEST FOR THAT USE.
UM, THE DATE WE HAVE IS 2025, UM, FOR THE EMERGING TECHNOLOGY.
UM, WE THOUGHT IF WE'RE GONNA ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, WE MIGHT AS WELL LOOK AT IT, UH, KIND OF WHOLESALE.
UM, SO WE HAVE DONE RESEARCH ON THAT.
UH, THE REASON THAT WE THOUGHT THERE'S A LOT OF SIMILARITY BETWEEN HELICOPTERS AND THE AIR TAXI, SO WE ARE BASICALLY TREATING THEM THE SAME.
UM, SO THAT'S, UH, IT WAS A FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD SOLUTION, I'D SAY.
SO, UM, IF, IF THERE ARE OTHER QUESTIONS, WE CAN LOOK AT THOSE.
UM, BUT THAT WAS REALLY OUR APPROACH WAS TO TREAT THEM SIMILAR
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TO HELICOPTERS.I, I KNOW THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT PROBABLY, WELL RIGHT NOW, I, I WOULD THINK THAT GENERAL PUBLIC WOULD HAVE AN, UH, SOMEWHAT OF A HESITANCY TO FLY IN AN UNMANNED AIR TAXI.
UH, WE WERE SEEING THAT, BUT WE'RE SEEING THAT HESITANCY RIGHT NOW IN JUST FOUR WHEEL VEHICLES DRIVING AROUND TOWN.
THE PEOPLE STILL LIKE TO HAVE THE DRIVER THERE.
SO I'M JUST WONDERING IF WE'RE TRYING TO ADD SOME CONFUSION HERE.
PARTICULARLY, I, I KNOW WE WANNA BE, UH, FORWARD THINKING HERE, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE'RE REALLY PUTTING THIS CART BEFORE THE HORSE WITH REGARDS TO UNMANNED AERIAL AIR TAXIS.
I MEAN, I COULD SEE US HAVING THE SAME REGULATIONS WE HAVE FOR A HELICOPTER, AS FOR A MANNED TILT ROTOR.
BUT AGAIN, I HAVEN'T SEEN MUCH OF A DEMAND IN THAT IN PLANO.
AND I, I THINK WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE WITH THE LARGE AND SMALL IS ADDING SOMEWHAT CONFUSION AS TO WHAT TYPE OF SERVICES AND ORDINANCES WE SHOULD BE PROVIDING.
JUST KIND OF WHERE I WAS THINKING THE, UM, AMENDMENTS TO THAT SECTION COULD BE REMOVED.
IF THAT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL.
UM, WE THOUGHT IT WAS APPROPRIATE TO ADDRESS IT AT THIS TIME.
THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
BUT IF, IF YOU BELIEVE OTHERWISE, THEN IT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE FAIRLY EASILY REMOVED FROM THE ORDINANCE UPDATE, UH, STATE.
I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WE DO HAVE A HANDFUL OF SPEAKERS ON THIS ONE, UM, MAINLY VIA ZOOM.
SO LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET THEM, JOIN THEM INTO THE PARTY.
HI, CAN YOU PLEASE TURN ON YOUR CAMERA FOR US? THANK YOU.
HI, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR THE DILIGENT WORK ON THIS ORDINANCE.
WE BEGIN WORKING REALLY CLOSELY WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AS WELL AS STAFF, AND APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION AND WORK OF OUR INPUTS THUS FAR.
WING DOES NOT HAVE A SPECIFIC CONCERN WITH ANY, UM, OR WE DO HAVE A SPECIFIC CONCERN WITH THE AMENDMENT THAT WAS ADDED BY COMMISSION THAT REQUIRES SCREENING OF EQUIPMENT BY A SOLID MASONRY WALL OR AN IRRIGATED, UM, EVER LIVING SCREEN.
AND WE UNDERSTAND THE REASONING FOR THIS SCREENING REQUIREMENT, AND WE SHARE YOUR DESIRE TO MAINTAIN A NEAT AND VISUAL ATTRACTIVE OPERATIONS.
THE SCREENING REQUIREMENT COULD, UM, DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACT WING'S OPERATION, ALTHOUGH WE SEE POTENTIAL FOR THESE REQUIREMENTS LIKELY IMPEDING OTHER OPERATORS AS WELL.
EFFECTIVELY MEETING THE PROPOSED SCREENING REQUIREMENT COULD IMPACT SERVICE AND THE AVAILABILITY OF SERVICE FOR RESIDENTS IN PLANO.
AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS A VERY NEW TECHNOLOGY AND EACH COMPANY'S OPERATIONS ARE VERY DIFFERENT.
SINCE OUR FLIGHT SYSTEM ARE HIGHLY AUTOMATED, WE DON'T, WE DO NOT RELY ON STAFF TO BE CONSISTENTLY PRESENT WITH OUR DRONE STAGING AREA THROUGHOUT THE BUSINESS DAY BEFORE SECURITY PURPOSES, WING'S CURRENT OPERATIONS DICTATE THAT OUR DRONE STAGING AREA, WHICH INCLUDES THE LAUNCHING PADS, UM, PAINTED, FRESHLY PAINTED STORAGE CONTAINER, AND A TRAILER SLASH VEHICLE TO BE ENCLOSED BY A FENCE CURRENTLY IN THE ORDINANCE NOW BEFORE YOU, THE LANDING PADS ARE SPECIFICALLY EXCLUDED FROM THE SCREENING REQUIREMENT BECAUSE IT'S RECOGNIZED THAT THE SOLID SCREENING COULD CREATE A CURRENT, AN AIR CURRENT THAT IMPACTS TAKEOFF AND LANDING.
THE NEW SCREENING REQUIREMENT WOULD EFFECTIVELY REQUIRE US TO PLACE OUR LANDING PADS WITHIN A SOLID MASONRY ENCLOSURE.
AND THAT COULD POSE AN OPERATIONAL ISSUE DUE TO THE LIMITED AIRFLOW AND OBSTRUCTION BY THE SCREENING.
ANOTHER CONCERN ABOUT THE SCREENING REQUIREMENT THAT WAS VOICED BY SEVERAL COMMISSIONERS WAS THAT SUCH REQUIREMENT WOULD HAVE LEGAL PERMANENCE OF A STRUCTURE NOT ORIGINALLY ENVISIONED BY WING'S TEAM OR THE RETAIL PARTNERS.
WE DO SEE VALUE IN PILOTING OUR SITES FOR SETUP WHILE MAINTAINING NEAT AND VISUALLY ATTRACTIVE APPEARANCES AS GETTING THE BEST OPERATIONAL OUTCOME, WHILE PRESERVING THE IMPORTANCE OF APPEALING AESTHETICS TO OUR RETAIL PARTNERS, WHICH THEY ALREADY EXPECT WITH
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SUCH.UM, WE ASK YOU TO EXEMPT ONE STORAGE CONTAINER AND ONE TRAILER SLASH VEHICLE FROM THE SCREENING REQUIREMENT AS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED BY STAFF, SPECIFICALLY WHEN THEY'RE LOCATED WITHIN THE FENCE AREA THAT INCLUDES THE LANDING PADS.
ALTERNATIVELY, 20 SECONDS, A MASONRY WALL OR THE IRRIGATED EVERGREEN LIVING WALL, UM, IS VERY PERMANENT IN A COSTLY STRUCTURE.
SINCE THIS IS A NEW TECHNOLOGY WE MIGHT FIND AFTER OPERATING FOR A YEAR OR EVEN TWO WITH A CURRENT LOCAL RETAIL PARTNER, IT MIGHT HAVE A MORE EFFICIENT PLACE FOR US TO STAGE OUR OPERATIONS SOMEWHERE DIFFERENT ON THAT PROPERTY.
IF COUNSEL CANNOT REMOVE THIS REQUIREMENT FROM THE ORDINANCE, WE HOPE TO EXPLORE OTHER OPTIONS AND REQUEST THE AUTOMATIC TEMPORARY WAIVER FOR SCREEN TWO YEARS TO BE INCLUDED IN THE ORDINANCE.
ONCE THE TEMPORARY PERIOD HAS PASSED, OPERATORS CAN PRESENT OPTIONS AND ALTERNATIVES TO PLANNING COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL.
KENDALL, AS KENDALL, CAN YOU HEAR ME? WITHIN THE DF REGION, WE HOPE TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE CITY OF PLANO.
THE NEXT SPEAKER IS GRANT GUILLO.
SO LEMME SEE LUKE FRANCE, HE'S HERE FOR QUESTIONS.
WELL COME OR DID WANT TO SPEAK ON I HAVE A QUESTION.
LUKE FRANZ AT 2323 ROSS AVENUE.
UM, WE'RE REPRESENTING DRONE UP ONE OF THE, UM, OPERATORS THAT HIS HERE IN PLANO, UM, ALONG WITH WING, UH, WHO KENDALL WORKS WITH.
UM, WE'RE REQUESTING A POSTPONEMENT OF THIS, UM, ITEM FOR AT LEAST A MONTH.
UM, WE'VE, UH, THE INDUSTRY LEADER, SCOTT, HAS SENT A A MESSAGE TO YOU, TO YOU ALL, UM, HOPING TO HAVE YOU ALL OUT TO THE SITES TO DO A DRONE DAY VISIT.
UH, WE THINK THIS IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT ORDINANCE THAT WE WANNA MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE CHANCE TO LOOK AT THESE OPERATIONS IN, IN, UM, FIRSTHAND BEFORE MAKING, UM, SUCH AN IMPORTANT, UM, ORDINANCE FOR THE CITY.
AND SO WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST, UM, A MONTH DELAY FOR THIS SO WE CAN COORDINATE THE SCHEDULES TO COME OUT FOR A DRONE DAY.
WELL, WE, WE'LL BE, WE'LL BE GLAD TO CONSIDER THAT.
I, I JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT, WHAT IS IT THAT YOU'RE OPPOSED TO THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS JUST PRESENTED? SO WE'LL KIND OF UNDERSTAND.
I GET THE SCREENING WALL PORTION.
THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE MAIN, IS THAT IT? THAT'S, YES.
AND, AND KENDALL DID A GOOD JOB, BUT I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT'S A DETERRENT.
SO AT THE, SO AT THE CURRENT OUTDOOR STORAGE REQUIREMENTS REQUIRE AN, UH, AN EIGHT FOOT MASONRY WALL TO SCREEN OUTDOOR STORAGE COMPONENTS.
UM, IN THE INSTANCES CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S A SMALL CONTAINER OR, UH, A TRUCK ON SITE IN THESE PARKING LOTS.
UM, AND PUTTING UP A MASONRY WALL AT THE MOMENT FOR ALL OF THOSE ITEMS, UM, IT IS, IS DIFFICULT AND COST PROHIBITIVE FOR OPERATIONS.
AND AS THOSE EVOLVE, THINGS WILL CHANGE.
UM, AND SO THE STAFF HAD RECOMMENDED AN ALTERNATIVE OPTION, WHICH KENDALL PRESENTED, UM, AT THE LAST HEARING THAT WAS TO EXEMPT TO A FEW OF THOSE ITEMS SO THAT WE COULD EVOLVE AND, AND MAKE, UH, EVOLVE AS WE GO FORWARD AND HAVE THOSE EXEMPTED.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR LUKE? I'M SORRY, I, I JUST WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, UH, WHAT, WHAT ISSUE YOU GUYS WERE HAVING A PROBLEM WITH.
IS IT, IS IT, EXCUSE ME, GO AHEAD.
UH, IS IT THAT EIGHT FOOT SCREENING WALL, IF IT'S ENCLOSING THAT, DOES THAT IMPEDE THE AIRFLOW FOR THESE? UH, THAT'S ANOTHER CONCERN AS WELL.
AND DEPENDING ON IF IT'S, IF IT'S REQUIRED AROUND THE WHOLE SCREENING WHOLE OPERATION AREAS THAT WASN'T A CONCERN AT COUNT AT P AND Z, WE ADDRESSED.
UM, BUT TO BE CLEAR, AND STAFF WAS CLEAR ABOUT THIS, IT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE ACTUAL LANDING PAD, IT'S JUST THE AREA BEHIND IT.
BUT BECAUSE IT'S SO, SO CLOSE PROXIMITY, UM, THERE ARE FEARS THAT IT MIGHT BE OVERLY PRESCRIPTIVE AND COULD DETER, UM, SOME OPERATIONS AS EXPANDING AS THE, UH, LANDING PADS EXPAND.
OKAY, THE NEXT SPEAKER IS GRANT.
DID HE MAKE IT? GRANT, ARE YOU THERE? GRANT? HEY, I'M SORRY.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? I CAN PLEASE GO AHEAD.
IF YOU GUYS CAN SEE ME, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
UM, IF THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH MY CAMERA 'CAUSE I'M NOT SEEING MY SCREEN.
UM, CAN YOU HEAR US OKAY? YES, I CAN.
UM, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH ALL OF YOU.
I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT OF REGULATORY AFFAIRS AT DRONE UP LIKE WING.
WE ARE OFFERING DRONE DELIVERY SERVICES IN THE DALLAS FOR, I'M SORRY, THE DALLAS FORT WORTH AREA, INCLUDING PLANO.
AND, UM, AS LUKE MENTIONED A FEW MINUTES AGO, WE FEEL THAT IT WOULD BE BEST FOR ALL OF YOU TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THE SPECIFICS
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OF OUR OPERATIONS AND WINGS OPERATIONS TO HAVE YOU OUT OVER THE NEXT MONTH TO SEE OUR OPERATIONS.THAT, AND HOPEFULLY THAT WILL HELP FORM YOUR OPINION MORE, UH, MORE SUBSTANTIVELY ON WHETHER OR NOT THIS ORDINANCE IS REQUIRED.
IT IS, UH, NOT COMMON NECESSARILY FOR MUNICIPALITIES TO PASS ORDINANCES LIKE THAT.
I, I BELIEVE PLANO MIGHT BE THE FIRST IN TEXAS TO DO SO.
THAT DOES NOT NECESSARILY, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING NUMBER ONE, BUT GIVEN THE FACT THAT YOU WOULD BE NUMBER ONE, WE THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO WORK TOGETHER WITH YOU ON THIS AND TO HAVE YOU GUYS OUT TO SEE OUR OPERATIONS.
UM, I ALSO WANNA MAKE JUST, UM, ONE BRIEF NOTE.
UH, AND SCOTT MAY TALK, SCOTT DALMAN FROM AUVS, I MAY MENTION THIS.
UM, BUT ONE OF THE PRIMARY CONCERNS WE HAD IS AS THE LAST PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE MEETING, MEETING, BOTH THROWN UP AND WING INDICATED SUPPORT FOR A MEASURE THAT ENDED UP BEING CHANGED AFTER PUBLIC DISCUSSION HAD CLOSED.
AND THEREFORE WHAT THE COMPANIES WERE SUPPORTING ACTUALLY ENDED UP NOT BEING WHAT ENDED UP MAKING IT OUT OF THAT COMMITTEE, OUT OF THAT MEETING.
SO WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ADEQUATELY HAVE THE TIME TO BRIEF YOU AND TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT OUR ISSUES ARE WITH THIS ORDINANCE, AS KENDALL DID A FANTASTIC JOB OF EXPLAINING.
AND WE ARE A HUNDRED PERCENT ON BOARD WITH HER AND WING ON THAT.
SO, UH, GIVEN THE DISCREPANCIES AND WHAT WAS PRESENTED AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE MEETING AND WHAT THE COMPANIES ACTUALLY ACKNOWLEDGED OUR SUPPORT FOR, ALONG WITH THE FACT THAT WE REALLY WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH YOU GUYS AND SHOW YOU THIS TECHNOLOGY IN PERSON, WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST A MONTH DELAY.
THE NEXT SPEAKER IS SCOTT SHAMAN.
SCOTT, ARE YOU THERE, SCOTT? YES, I'M HERE.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
UH, MAYOR AND COUNSEL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR TAKING THE TIME TO LISTEN TO ME.
MY NAME IS SCOTT STOFF AND I'M A SENIOR MANAGER FOR GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS FOR A-U-V-S-I, THE ASSOCIATION FOR UNC CREWED VEHICLE SYSTEMS INTERNATIONAL.
YOU HEARD FROM A COUPLE OF OUR MEMBERS HERE ALREADY THIS EVENING, UH, VIA WING AND DRONE UP.
UH, WE WORK ACROSS ALL THINGS UNC CREWED, AUTONOMOUS GROUNDWATER, AIR, UH, AND WORKING TO ADVANCE PUBLIC EDUCATION, UNDERSTANDING AND ACCEPTANCE OF THOSE SYSTEMS. I'M A RESIDENT OF TEXAS, MYSELF, GREW UP IN THE DALLAS AREA, AND WE REALLY ARE EXCITED ABOUT THE PROSPECT OF DRONE DELIVERY BEING IN DFW AS YOU'RE ONE OF THE LARGEST ADOPTERS OF THE TECHNOLOGY AROUND THE COUNTRY AND FRANKLY AROUND THE WORLD.
UM, YOU KNOW, AS HAS BEEN MENTIONED, OUR, OUR INTEREST, UH, IS THAT THE COUNCIL TAKE A MONTH TO, UH, DISCUSS AND VISIT WITH THE COMPANIES ON AND REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR SITES LOOK LIKE, UNDERSTAND HOW THE EXISTING WORDING THAT CAME OUT OF PLANNING AND ZONING COULD IMPACT THOSE OPERATIONS AND POTENTIALLY HAMPER, UH, ADOPTION IN THE CITY OF PLANO.
AND AS WELL AS WHETHER OR NOT THE SPECIFIC WORDING THAT DID COME OUT OF PLANNING AND ZONING WOULD BE NECESSARY BASED ON THE, THE CLEANLINESS AND THE, UH, STYLE OF THE OPERATIONAL SITES THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN PLACE IN THE DFW AREA.
UH, YOU KNOW, I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE A STRONG UNDERSTANDING AND, AND WE WORK WITH A NUMBER OF COMPANIES THAT ARE IN THIS SPACE AND, AND OPERATING AROUND THE COUNTRY.
SO LAST SPEAKER, THAT WAS THE LAST SPEAKER.
I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING CON UH, CONFINE THE COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL HERE.
I THINK, UH, I HAVE SOME TREPIDATION ABOUT IT ALSO FOR A FEW REASONS THAT I THINK AFTER LISTENING TO THE, UH, POTENTIAL PROVIDERS, UH, UH, I'M ALL FOR MAKING A MOTION TO, UH, TABLE THIS TILL OUR, UH, I BELIEVE THE 27TH, 27TH OF NOVEMBER, OR WOULD IT BE THE 2020 SEVENTH? SEVENTH, YEAH.
SO LET'S MAKE SURE THEY, WE GIVE, WE GIVE PLANNING PLENTY OF TIME TO, UH, FIND OUT SOME OF, SOME OF THESE ALTERNATIVE ISSUES AND YEAH, SO I'D BE FOR THAT.
LET'S, LET'S SEE IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY THOUGHTS ON IT.
JUST REAL QUICK IS, IS THERE ANY ISSUE FROM STAFF ON, UH, UH, A MONTH DELAY? UH, NO.
UM, I COULD RESPOND TO SOME OF THESE CONCERNS WITH THE COMMISSION'S COMMENTS ON THEM.
IF, IF THE COUNCIL'S INTERESTED IN HEARING THAT.
I THINK WE PROBABLY NEED TO GET EDUCATED.
AND SO WE, WE'LL, WE'LL GET WITH YOU AND YOUR STAFF AND
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BE GLAD TO, TO GO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY'D LIKE US TO SEE AND THEN BE ABLE TO KIND OF GET BACK TOGETHER AND FIND OUT HOW WE CAN, UH, WORK WITH, WITH EVERYBODY IN REGARD TO THIS ISSUE.SO MY, MY QUESTION IS, IT WENT THROUGH PLANNING AND ZONING MM-HMM.
AND SO IN BETWEEN, THERE IS NO BUFFER WHERE IN WHICH, YOU KNOW, THIS, YOU KNOW, THIS, UM, EDUCATION COULD COME ABOUT BEFORE, YOU KNOW, IT CAME TO US FOR A VOTE.
I MEAN, I GUESS I'M KIND OF CONFUSED WHY TODAY WHEN WE'RE VOTING THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR, UM, THE ORDINANCE TO BE TABLED.
UH, I, I BELIEVE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION CONSIDERED THE SCREENING ISSUE QUITE THOROUGHLY.
UM, THEY TALKED ABOUT IT MULTIPLE TIMES AND THERE THEY HAD A PRETTY EXTENSIVE DEBATE ON THE ISSUE AS TO WHETHER OR NOT IT IMPACTED, I MEAN, THEY TALKED ABOUT DOES IT, DOES IT ACTUALLY IMPACT THE FLIGHT PATH? IS IS IT GOING TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, A, A CHANGE TO THE OPERATIONS? THEY LISTENED TO TESTIMONY.
THE CHALLENGES THEY REALLY CAME DOWN TO WITH WERE EQUITY OF ENFORCEMENT.
UM, BECAUSE IN THE CITY, UM, THE WAY THINGS ARE OPERATING TODAY, OTHER BUSINESSES HAVE TO MEET THESE SCREENING REQUIREMENTS IF THEY HAVE OPEN STORAGE.
AND SO THE IDEA THAT WE WERE GOING TO ALLOW THIS USE TO HAVE OPEN STORAGE WITHOUT MAKING, UM, HELD TO THE SAME STANDARDS AS OTHER BUSINESSES IN THE COMMUNITY WAS REALLY A CONCERN TO THEM.
AND SO THAT'S WHY THEY PUT IN LANGUAGE THAT LANDING PADS ARE EXEMPT FROM THE SCREENING REQUIREMENT, AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MAY WAIVE THESE REQUIREMENTS WITH APPROVAL OF A SITE PLAN.
SO AS LONG AS THE OPERATOR'S COMING THROUGH THE SITE PLAN APPROVAL PROCESS, THEY CAN GET, THEY CAN GET AN EXEMPTION FROM PNZ.
SO THEY BUILT IN KIND OF A SAFETY VALVE AND, BUT THEY WEREN'T COMFORTABLE GOING ALL THE WAY WITH ALLOWING IT TO JUST BE A FLAT AUTHORIZATION OF THEM NOT MEETING THE SAME STANDARDS AS, AS OTHER BUSINESSES.
SO I, I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS, SO THE PNZ HAD A LOT MORE CONVERSATIONS WITH REGARD TO THIS SPECIFIC ISSUE THAN WE, WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
UH, THEY, THEY HELD, THEY DISCUSSED IT AT FOUR SEPARATE MEETINGS AND, OH, UM, MR. MAYOR, IF I COULD, I'M SORRY.
JUST A QUESTION TO, TO MA I I'M, I'M OKAY WITH THE MONTH AS WELL.
UH, JUST TO MAKE IT FRUITFUL, IT SEEMS LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE ISSUES I'VE HEARD, OBVIOUSLY THE, THE MASONRY SCREENING WALL, THAT'S THE, THE BIGGEST ONE.
UH, THERE WAS DISCUSSION I KNOW AT P AND Z ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, 10% OR A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET AND, AND WHETHER THAT WAS GONNA BE BIG ENOUGH TO SUPPORT OPERATIONS.
UM, AND, AND I THINK THE CLARIFICATION THERE, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE, THE DISCUSSION ABOUT LIKE THE CRUMBLE COOKIE SHOP AND ALL OF THAT WAS, UM, WAS, WAS ESSENTIALLY, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S WHICHEVER IS GREATER RIGHT, 10% OR A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.
SO THAT 2000 SQUARE FOOT SHOP COULD STILL HAVE A 1000 SQUARE FOOT, UH, UH, DRONE FACILITY.
BUT, UM, AND, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THERE WAS AN ISSUE IDENTIFIED BY COUNCIL MEMBER HORN REGARDING, YOU KNOW, REGARDING THE AIR TAXIS AND WHETHER, WHETHER WE'RE READY TO, YOU KNOW, TO, UH, TO ADOPT REGULATIONS REGARDING THAT OR IF THAT'S PREMATURE.
BUT ARE, ARE WE AWARE OF ANY OTHER ISSUES JUST TO KIND OF MAKE SURE THAT WE HIT EVERYTHING DURING THIS MONTH? YOU KNOW, IF, IF THERE ARE ANY OUTSTANDING ISSUES, IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO JUST, YOU KNOW, UH, I, I GUESS THIS IS A CALL TO, YOU KNOW, TO THE INDUSTRY, UH, MEMBERS AND, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN TRY TO GET EVERYTHING ON THE TABLE.
WELL, I, THE, THE ONE THING ON THE OPEN STORAGE IS I WANNA BE CONSISTENT ON, ON OUR POLICY IN REGARD TO ALL OPEN STORAGE SO THAT WE'RE NOT EXPOSING OURSELF TO PRECEDENT.
WELL, I, I THINK, UM, AND I KNOW WE HAVEN'T HAD THE ADVANTAGE OF P AND Z HAVING THEIR MEETINGS FOR FOUR, FOUR SEPARATE MEETINGS OVER THIS, AND THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT NOISE.
AND THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT PRIVACY.
AND FROM DISCUSSIONS WITH DRONE OPERATORS, THE PRIVACY, I MEAN, THESE THINGS ARE, ARE, UH, PROGRAMMED, IF YOU WILL, TO FLY ALONG THE STREETS.
THEY DON'T FLY AS CROW FLIES FROM CRUMBLE COOKIE YEAH.
OVER ACROSS BACKYARDS TO DROP THE, THE COOKIE OFF IN YOUR FRONT PORCH.
THEY FLY, THEY FLY AROUND THE STREETS.
AND I WOULD, I WOULD BRING A THEORY TO YOU THAT THE AMAZON TRUCK IS A LOT NOISIER THAN THE DRONE
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AND CLOGGING TRAFFIC.SO, UM, AND YOUR EXPOSURE TO THAT IS JUST VERY SMALL.
IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, WITHIN MINUTES.
SO I THINK THESE ARE THE TYPE OF QUESTIONS IF WE'RE ABLE TO GO VISIT THESE SITES PLUS THE SCREENING WALL, WE CAN ASK THE QUESTION HOW IT IMPEDES.
UH, I THINK THIS DELAY IS ONLY WELL AND OTHER MATERIALS THAT, THAT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE.
SO I, UH, DID YOU SECOND THE, THE TABLING DID, UM, RICK, DID YOU MAKE THAT MOTION? YOU CAN IF YOU WANT TO OR HUH? I'LL HERE.
SO I, UH, I WOULD MAKE, UH, A MOTION THAT, UH, WE DO, UH, TABLE, UH, THIS, UH, ITEM, UH, TO OUR NOVEMBER 27TH MEETING TO GIVE US A CHANCE TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE FIRSTHAND INFORMATION BEFORE ENACTING THIS POLICY.
SECOND, UH, SHELBY, CAN I, CAN I SAY SOMETHING PLEASE? WELL, HOLD ON.
LEMME LET SHELBY, AND THEN YOU GO, HOLD ON.
UH, JUST VERY BRIEFLY, I AGREE, UH, WITH YOU MAYOR, THAT WE NEED TO GET EDUCATED, NOT LEAST BECAUSE THIS IS A VERY, VERY NEW INDUSTRY, AND WE HAVE, I WATCHED THE P AND Z MEETING.
UM, WE'VE HEARD SOME THINGS TONIGHT.
WE'RE PROBABLY ONLY SCRATCHING THE SURFACE OF CONSIDERATIONS HERE.
UM, WHILE THERE, THERE'S PROBABLY A REASON NO OTHER CITY IN TEXAS HAS CREATED AN ORDINANCE BECAUSE THIS IS SO NEW.
AND ALSO, AS I WATCHED THE P AND Z MEETING AND I READ THROUGH THE PACKET, I'M STRUGGLING TO IDENTIFY THE PROBLEM THIS IS MEANT TO SOLVE.
UM, AND I THINK THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CONSIDERATIONS THAT VISITING THESE SITES AND ASKING APPROPRIATE QUESTIONS WOULD HELP US EVALUATE, UH, MORE THOROUGHLY TO, TO IDENTIFY THE PROBLEM, MORE PROBLEMS THAT ARE TRYING TO BE SOLVED OR MAYBE PREEMPT BEFORE THEY BECOME BIG PROBLEMS. AND, UM, COME TO A MUCH MORE THOUGHTFUL CONCLUSION.
SO I, OH, I THINK IT WAS GRANT THAT ALLUDED TO THIS, UH, MAY, UH, MENTIONED A COMMENT ABOUT THAT WE WOULD BE THE FIRST TO MAKE AN ORDINANCE AND THAT OTHER CITIES DON'T HAVE ORDINANCES AND MAYBE AN ORDINANCE ISN'T NECESSARY.
SO, TO COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS' POINT ABOUT WHAT PROBLEM IS THIS ORDINANCE SOLVING, I'D LIKE TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT, UM, WHY THIS IS NECESSARY IF OTHER CITIES, UM, DON'T FEEL THE NEED TO HAVE ONE.
WE, THERE'S, THERE'S TWO REASONS THIS CAME UP BECAUSE WE WERE APPROACHED BY AN OPERATOR ABOUT COMING TO PLANO.
AND OUR ZONING ORDINANCE STATES THAT IF A USE IS, IF THERE'S AN UNLISTED USE, THAT IT'S DISALLOWED.
SO OUR OPTIONS WERE TO LOOK AT THE ZONING ORDINANCE OR TO, UH, BASICALLY WE COULDN'T FIND A MECHANISM TO ALLOW THE OPERATIONS IN ENO.
SO WE DID A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF RESEARCH ON OTHER CITIES.
UM, THERE ARE PLACES THAT, UH, REQUIRE ASUP, THEY USE THEIR HE HELICOPTER DEFINITIONS, UM, STRAIGHT UP AS, BECAUSE THEY'RE WRITTEN A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY THAN OURS ARE WITH DIFFERENT LANGUAGE, THEY'RE ABLE TO JUST MODIFY, JUST UTILIZE THOSE, UM, WITHOUT ANY MODIFICATION.
UM, THERE'S OPERATIONS IN COLLEGE STATION THAT ARE DONE THROUGH PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
UH, THE COLONY ALSO, AND ALAN BOTH USE THEIR HELICOPTER DEFINITIONS.
UM, WE HAVE OTHER CITIES WHERE THE USE IS UNLISTED, BUT THEY'RE USING THEM, THEY'RE ALLOWING THEM AS INCIDENTAL TO THE PRI PRIMARY USE, UM, OR AS A TEMPORARY USE WHERE HELIPADS ARE ALLOWED.
UM, WE ALSO, WE FOUND, WE LOOKED AT GRAHAM VERY LITTLE EL MESQUITE MURPHY RICHARDSON.
UM, MOST PLACES IT RELATED TO HELICOPTER TYPE USES BECAUSE THEIR, THEIR DEFINITIONS IN THEIR ZONING ORDINANCE WERE NOT USING THE EXPLICIT TERM HELICOPTER, SO THEY WERE ABLE TO FLEX THOSE STANDARDS.
SO THERE ARE A LOT OF CITIES THAT ARE ACTUALLY ADDRESSING THIS.
THEY'RE JUST NOT ADDRESSING IT THE EXACT WAY PLANO IS.
AND IT'S LARGELY BECAUSE OF THE WAY OUR ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN.
SO MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE GETTING CLARITY ON WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING IN THE NEXT MONTH TO, TO DO THIS.
SO, UH, BECAUSE ALL OF COUNCIL, AND THIS IS AN ITEM THAT COUNCIL'S GONNA CONSIDER, UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO POST THIS, UH, FOR A MEETING AND TRY TO FIND A, A TIME OR MAYBE TWO TIMES FOR COUNSEL TO GO VISIT.
UM, BUT IT'S GONNA BE IMPORTANT THAT WE GET THAT SCHEDULED THROUGH LISA POSTED CORRECTLY AND GET DE DEE'S MAGIC WORK ON THIS.
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BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY OTHER ISSUES WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK TO COUNSEL ON, AND I HEARD THE, THE MANNED, UM, OR THE PASSENGER, UH, DRONE WAS ONE POINT OF CONSIDERATION.UM, SO PROVIDING BACKGROUND ON, ON THAT ELEMENT AND, AND THE POTENTIAL OF THAT I HEARD AS AN ISSUE.
I KNOW ON THE MASONRY SIDE OF THINGS, WE CAN PROVIDE, UH, AN OVERVIEW.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME EXTENSIVE, UM, DOCUMENTATION ON THE OPEN STORAGE, UH, ELEMENT OF THINGS AND THE, UM, THE, UH, EQUAL APPLICATION OF OUR ORDINANCES AND EXPECTATIONS ON THAT.
WHAT ELSE WAS THERE? BECAUSE I'D, I'D HEARD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS.
I WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE CAPTURING ALL THOSE SO THAT WE CAN GET YOU BRIEFINGS ON THAT.
WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ON THERE THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, UH, PROVIDE YOU THAT, THAT BACKUP INFORMATION? AGAIN, THE TWO, THAT, TWO COMMON ONES THAT KEPT COMING UP WAS PRIVACY.
SO THOSE ARE CLEARLY THINGS THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS WITH THE OPERATORS THAT, THAT WE CAN UNDERSTOOD.
WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? RIGHT.
I, I WOULD JUST LOVE TO SEE US, UH, REACH OUT TO THE OPERATORS.
THERE MAY NOT BE ANYTHING ELSE.
UH, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT ALL OF THE ISSUES KIND OF DEFINED.
AND I SEE SOME HEADS NODDING UP THERE THAT THEY'RE HAPPY TO PROVIDE SOME FEEDBACK, SO WE'RE GOOD.
ANYTHING ELSE? I HAVE A MOTION.
I'LL JUST SAY THAT WE'LL PROVIDE YOU ALL THE, UH, RESEARCH FROM OTHER CITIES THAT WE HAVE AS WELL.
SO WE HAVE MOTION, A SECOND TO TABLE THIS ITEM TILL NOVEMBER 27TH OR WHENEVER.
[(4) Public Hearing and consideration of an Ordinance as requested in Zoning Case 2023-022 to amend Article 8 (Definitions), Article 14 (Allowed Uses and Use Classifications), and Article 15 (Use-specific Regulations) of the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance of the City, Ordinance No. 2015-5-2, as heretofore amended, to allow pet funeral homes and to add a land use classification and associated restrictions for crematories; and providing a penalty clause, a repealer clause, a savings clause, a severability clause, a publication clause, and an effective date. Petitioner: Alan and Rene Blakemore ]
ITEM NUMBER FOUR, PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE AS REQUESTED IN ZONING CASE 2023 DASH 22 TO AMEND ARTICLE EIGHT DEFINITIONS.ARTICLE 14, ALLOW USES AND USE CLASSIFICATIONS IN ARTICLE 15.
USE SPECIFIC REGULATIONS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY ORDINANCE NUMBER 2015 DASH FIVE DASH TWO AS HERETOFORE AMENDED TO ALLOW PET FUNERAL HOMES AND ADD A LAND USE CLASSIFICATION AND ASSOCIATED RESTRICTIONS FOR CREMATOR AND PROVIDE A PENALTY CLAUSE, A REPEAL CLAUSE, A SAVINGS CLAUSE, A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, A PUBLICATION CLAUSE, AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
ALRIGHT, UH, SOMEWHAT SIMILAR TO THE LAST CASE.
THIS IS AN EXAMPLE WHERE OUR ORDINANCE WAS, UH, OVERLY PERHAPS, UH, RESTRICTIVE IN ITS LANGUAGE AND SO NEEDED PERHAPS SOME MODIFICATION IN ORDER TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE AT HAND.
WE WERE APPROACHED BY A POTENTIAL BUSINESS OWNER WHO WANTED TO OPERATE A PET FUNERAL HOME THAT INCLUDED A CREMATORY.
AND SO, UM, WE MET WITH THEM AND FOUND SOME KINDA SHORTCOMINGS IN THE ORDINANCE BEING ABLE TO ADDRESS THIS USE.
SO WE, UH, ASKED THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO CALL A PUBLIC HEARING, AND THEY HAVE CONSIDERED SOME ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS.
FIRST IS OUR MORTUARY FUNERAL PARLOR.
UM, DEFINITION CURRENTLY IS SPECIFIED TO HUMAN BODIES.
UM, SO WE'RE PROPOSING AN AMENDMENT THERE THAT WOULD, UH, BROADEN THAT TO INCLUDE PET REMAINS AS WELL.
UM, WE NOTED IN THE CONCEPT OF ADDING CREMATOR, WE LOOKED AT, AT THAT USE PRETTY EXTENSIVELY.
IT DOES REQUIRE A-T-C-E-Q PERMIT.
UM, AND THERE ARE ADDITIONAL RESTRICTIONS FOR ANIMALS ONLY.
AND WE ALSO HAVE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE THAT ANY CREMATORIES WOULD BE REQUIRED TO MEET.
UM, WE DID TALK TO ANIMAL SERVICES, WHO'S THE SINGULAR OPERATOR OF A CREMATORIUM PLANO TODAY.
THEY SAID THEY HAD RECEIVED SOME CONCERNS FROM CITY EMPLOYEES THAT ARE ON THE SAME PROPERTY.
AND SO WE MADE RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, BASED ON THIS, UH, KNOWLEDGE AND THE DRAFT STANDARDS TO INCLUDE MAINTENANCE REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE IT WAS THEIR OBSERVATION THAT THIS ONLY OCCURRED WHENEVER, UH, THERE WERE MAINTENANCE ISSUES WITH THE EQUIPMENT.
SO OUR PROPOSED AMENDMENTS WOULD ALLOW FOR BOTH HUMAN AND ANIMAL CREMATOR IF MEETING THE STATE AND CITY REQUIREMENTS.
UM, IT WOULD BE ONLY WITH APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT IN LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND, UH, THE TWO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICTS AND FOR THE CREMATORY.
AND THEN THEIR USE SPECIFIC REGULATIONS THAT ENSURE
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THE EQUIPMENT IS MAINTAINED TO TRY TO AVOID, UH, ANY KIND OF NUISANCE.SO THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS GUIDING PRINCIPLES ON LAND USE ACTION.
ONE, WE DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY RESPONSES ON THIS, AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH A VOTE OF SEVEN TO ONE, AND WE'RE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR CHRISTINA? YES, SHELBY.
CHRISTINA, I'M READING THIS AS ONLY BEING PERMITTED IN, UH, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ONE AND TWO WITH A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT IN NOWHERE ELSE.
IS THAT ACCURATE? THAT IS CORRECT FOR THE CREMATORY.
UM, ANY INDICATION AS TO, UM, HOW OFTEN MAINTENANCE CONCERNS MIGHT BE AN ISSUE IF THE, IF THE POTENTIAL NUISANCE AND ODOR, UH, HAPPENS ONLY WHEN THERE ARE MAINTENANCE ISSUES, HOW OFTEN MIGHT THAT HAPPEN? AND EVEN IF WE REQUIRE MAINTENANCE UPKEEP, HOW MUCH IS THAT ACTUALLY GONNA MATTER? I THINK BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE REALLY THE ONE, YOU KNOW, INCIDENT, I, I THINK IT'S VERY HARD FOR US TO KNOW WHAT RANGE OF EQUIPMENT MIGHT EXIST, WHAT AGE OF EQUIPMENT.
SO I, I'M HESITANT TO SPECULATE.
I APPRECIATE THE VALUE OF THE QUESTION,
YEAH, I'VE, I'VE WORKED CLOSELY WITH JAMIE CANTRELL OVER THE LAST DECADE, AND I, I'M AWARE OF TWO INSTANCES OF, OF PHYSICAL ISSUES WITH THE, UM, WITH THE, IN, WITH THE MACHINERY.
THAT'S THE WAY THAT I'LL PUT IT.
UM, BUT I'M ONLY AWARE OF TWO, BUT THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE BECAUSE WE DO A LOT OF PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO I THINK IT'S, IT'S HARD TO SAY AND PROBABLY HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THE OPERATOR.
THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.
I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, CONFINE THE COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL.
MAYOR, UH, BARRING ANY DISCUSSION WITH COUNCIL, I'D MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
A MOTION IS SECOND TO APPROVE.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR, PLEASE VOTE.
[(5) Public Hearing and consideration of an Ordinance as requested in Zoning Case 2023-023 to amend Article 8 (Definitions), Article 14 (Allowed Uses and Use Classifications), and Article 15 (Use-specific Regulations) of the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance of the City, Ordinance No. 2015-5-2, as heretofore amended, to allow temporary emergency shelters during life-threatening weather events; and providing a penalty clause, a repealer clause, a savings clause, a severability clause, a publication clause, and an effective date. Petitioner: City of Plano ]
ITEM NUMBER FIVE, PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE AS REQUESTED IN ZONING CASE 2023 DASH 23 TO AMEND ARTICLE EIGHT DEFINITIONS.ARTICLE 14 ALLOWED USES AND USE CLASSIFICATIONS.
AND ARTICLE 15, USE SPECIFIC REGULATIONS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY ORDINANCE NUMBER 2015 DASH FIVE DASH TWO AS HERETOFORE AMENDED TO ALLOW TEMPORARY EMERGENCY SHELTERS DURING LIFE-THREATENING WEATHERING WEATHER EVENTS AND PROVIDING A PENALTY CLAUSE, A REPEAL OR CLAUSE, A SAVINGS CLAUSE, A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, A PUBLICATION CLAUSE, AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
ALRIGHT, THIS IS OUR FINAL ZONING CASE AND FINAL TEXT AMENDMENT FOR THE EVENING.
UM, SO, UH, THIS DOES RELATE TO PLANO OVERNIGHT WARMING STATION AND THE NEEDS OF THAT OPERATION.
UM, LOOKING AT THAT, THE ZONING ORDINANCE IS LIMITING THE OPERATION OF OUR PARTNERS IN THAT OPERAT IN THAT, UM, PROGRAM.
SO WE STARTED LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVES.
THE PNZ CALLED A PUBLIC HEARING ON SEPTEMBER 5TH.
THE PLAINTIFF OVERNIGHT WARMING STATION, OR PALS, AS IT'S CALLED, DOES OPERATE CURRENTLY, UM, THROUGH A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR HOUSEHOLD CARE INSTITUTION.
THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS AS PART OF THAT, UM, BUT AS IT WAS DISCUSSED AMONG STAFF THAT WORK DIRECTLY WITH THIS PROGRAM, IT'S FELT THAT SOME, WE'VE AMENDED THIS REGULARLY OVER TIME AND THAT SOME ADDITIONAL FLEXIBILITY COULD BE REALLY USEFUL.
SO WE LOOKED AT, UH, THE TEMPORARY ACCESSORY HOUSING SHELTER DEFINITION, UM, BECAUSE IT IS TIED TO RELIGIOUS FACILITIES, AND WE FOUND THAT THOSE ARE GENERALLY THE PROVIDERS THAT ARE WORKING TO, UH, PROVIDE THIS SERVICE AS WELL.
UM, THERE ARE CURRENT RESTRICTIONS, THOUGH, IN THAT DEFINITION THAT HAVE A LIMIT OF 14 INDIVIDUALS AND 13 CALENDAR DAYS.
CLEARLY THAT WOULDN'T WORK FOR THE TYPE OF OPERATION WE WERE LOOKING AT.
SO THAT NEEDED SOME MODIFICATION.
SO IN THAT, WE LOOKED AT MODIFYING THE DEFINITION TO REMOVE THE REQUIREMENT FOR NONPROFIT BECAUSE IN THE DEFINITION, THE SERVICE IS REQUIRED TO BE FREE.
SO IT SEEMED SLIGHTLY REDUNDANT.
UM, WE ALSO MOVED THE REGULATIONS OUT OF THE DEFINITION JUST AS A BEST PRACTICE.
THEY'RE RETAINED, BUT THEY'RE, UH, MOVED INTO
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ARTICLE 15, WHICH IS, UM, REALLY WHERE WE'D LIKE TO SEE THEM, AND THEN CREATED AN EXEMPTION, UM, TO THOSE PRIOR REQUIREMENTS OF THE SIZE LIMIT DURING LIFE-THREATENING WEATHER CONDITIONS AS DETERMINED BY THE CITY MANAGER OR DESIGNEE, AND DURING DECLARED DISASTERS IN THE CITY OF PLANO THAT CREATE A NEED FOR TEMPORARY HOUSING UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THE DISASTER STATUS IS RE RESCINDED.SO WE DID LOOK AT PEER CITIES, UM, JUST THESE FOUR.
UM, AND WE DIDN'T FIND A CLEAR DIRECTION ON LAND USE POLICIES FOR TEMPORARY EMERGENCY SHELTERS.
IT WASN'T LIKE A PREVAILING POLICY THAT PEOPLE USED.
UM, BUT WE DID FIND IT WAS VERY CONSISTENT WITH A NUMBER OF GUIDE GUIDING PRINCIPLES AND ACTIONS IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
WE DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY RESPONSES ON THIS ITEM, AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY A VOTE OF FIVE TO THREE.
UM, I KNOW THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR, CARRIE LITTLE, IS ALSO AVAILABLE, UH, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM.
UH, BUT WE'RE BOTH AVAILABLE, SO THANK YOU.
ANY QUESTIONS, ANTHONY? THANK YOU, MAYOR.
THE FIRST IS, UH, REGARDING THE CRITERIA FOR INVOKING THE NEED FOR THE, THE, UH, TEMPORARY EMERGENCY EMERGENCY SHELTER.
UH, THERE ARE ESSENTIALLY TWO CONDITIONS, A DECLARED DISASTER OR A LIFE-THREATENING WEATHER CONDITION.
AND, UH, BUT IT, IT DOESN'T SEEM THAT LIFE-THREATENING WEATHER CONDITION IS DEFINED.
I KNOW THAT IN, IN THE, UH, PALS ORDINANCE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SPECIFIC TO THEM.
I THINK IT'S UNDER 35 OR 40 DEGREES, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ONE FOR HEAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE TEMPERATURE OR HEAT INDEX GETS OVER A CERTAIN AMOUNT.
UM, WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON, UH, HAVING CRITERIA IN THE ORDINANCE FOR WHEN A LIFE THREATENING WEATHER CONDITION OCCURS? UM, I THINK WE'VE STRUGGLED WITH THAT NOW.
UM, I'LL OFFER TO CARRIE TO GIVE HER, BUT I KNOW FROM A ZONING PERSPECTIVE, WE'VE LOOKED AT AMENDING THAT, LIKE WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE THE HEAT, UH, CONDITION IN THERE.
SO TO ME, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING WE KEEP HAVING TO REVISIT IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
SO THAT'S WHY WE THOUGHT, UH, GIVING IT TO THE CITY MANAGER WAS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO BOTH HAVE SOME CONSTRAINTS ON IT BECAUSE THERE'S STILL SOME AUTHORITY THERE, BUT NOT HAVE IT BE TOTALLY OPEN-ENDED.
SO, YES, AND SO I CAN SPEAK TO THAT.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
I'M CARRIE LITTLE, I'M THE DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
SO PREVIOUSLY WHEN WE WERE DOING SPECIAL USE PERMITS FOR, UM, OPERATIONS OF PLANO OVERNIGHT WARMING SHELTER, WE DID HAVE CRITERIA EXACTLY FOR WHEN WE WOULD ENACT, UM, THE PLANO OVERNIGHT WARMING SHELTER.
BUT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH IS NOT JUST ADDRESS WHEN WE WOULD USE SHELTERING, UH, SHELTERS FOR PLANO OVERNIGHT WARMING SHELTER, BUT TO MAKE OUR ORDINANCE COMPLIANCE FOR WHEN COMPLIANT FOR WHEN WE MIGHT NEED TO USE, UM, TEMPORARY SHELTERS FOR A VARIETY OF HAZARDS.
FOR INSTANCE, IF WE HAD A TORNADO COME THROUGH AND WE NEEDED TO OPEN UP SHELTERS FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR FAITH-BASED COMMUNITY STEPPED UP TO DO THAT, WHILE WE COULD ALLOW FOR IT, WE WOULD NOT BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH OUR ORDINANCE.
THESE CHANGES RIGHT NOW TO OUR ORDINANCE ALLOWS US TO BE IN COMPLIANCE.
THAT COMPLIANCE ALLOWS US TO MEET BOTH STATE AND FEDERAL LAWS.
SO BY NOT PUTTING WHAT THAT LIFE-THREATENING WEATHER CONDITION IS, IT ALLOWS US TO MEET THE FULL SPECTRUM OF HAZARDS THAT WE MIGHT FACE RIGHT NOW IN OUR HAZARD MITIGATION PLAN, WHICH Y'ALL ADOPTED BACK IN JUNE.
THERE WERE 19 DIFFERENT HAZARDS THAT WE HAD OUTLINED IN THAT PLAN.
SO WHILE WE'RE LOOKING AT WEATHER CONDITIONS, IT COULD BE TORNADO, IT COULD BE FLOODING, IT COULD BE WINTER WEATHER, IT COULD BE EXTREME HEAT, WE JUST DON'T KNOW.
IT COULD BE HIGH WINDS, WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE WOULD BE.
AND WE WERE TRYING TO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION.
AND THAT WOULD BE SHORT OF A DECLARED DISASTER, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT THE MAYOR COULD, UH, ACTION THAT THE MAYOR COULD TAKE, WHICH WOULD BE FOR SEVEN DAYS.
WELL, THANK, THANK YOU FOR THAT, COUNCILMAN.
I, I MIGHT ADD THAT WHILE IT MAY NOT BE IN THE, THE ORDINANCE NECESSARILY, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH COUNCIL GIVING POLICY DIRECTION TO ME TO ADHERE TO THE POWELL STANDARDS AS, AS THE, THE GENERAL FRAME OF REFERENCE AND TO SEEK, UM, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT I'M CIRCLING BACK WITH COUNSEL ON ANYTHING BEYOND THAT.
BUT I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THAT AS POLICY DIRECTION.
I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT IT NEEDS TO BE IN THE ORDINANCE, NECESSARILY.
AND I WOULDN'T WANT TO BE, YOU KNOW, OVERLY PRESCRIPTIVE TO THAT POINT ABOUT THE 19 HAZARDS, YOU KNOW, IF, IF IT'S A, IF IT'S A TORNADO,
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YOU KNOW, OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANNA SAY, WELL, IT'S NOT VERY HOT OUT, YOU KNOW, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.BUT MAYOR BY THAT, I, I, I JUST WAS SAY, I, I COMMEND THE STAFF FOR BEING PROACTIVE ON THIS BECAUSE TOO MANY TIMES EVERYBODY IS REACTIVE.
SO THE FACT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS, AND WE HAVE OUR CITY MANAGER WHO HAS PROVEN TO BE A GREAT CITY MANAGER, I THINK IT'S WORKED OUT WELL FOR US, UH, IN THE PA WITH THE PALS, UH, OVERNIGHT WARMING STATION, AND I'VE SEE NO REASON WHY IT'S NOT GONNA WORK OUT WELL FOR US AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
UM, ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAVE ABOUT THIS IS, UM, THOUGH IT'S GIVEN TO, UH, DEFINED AS BEING ONLY FOR A RELIGIOUS FACILITY, UM, ACCORDING TO OUR ZONING ORDINANCE, UH, UNLESS I'M MISREADING IT, A RELIGIOUS FACILITY IS PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN ALL OF OUR ZONING CATEGORIES, RESIDENTIAL AND NON-RESIDENTIAL EVERYWHERE, AND DOESN'T HAVE THAT.
I CAN SEE ANY REQUIREMENTS TO DESIGNATE A STRUCTURE AS A RELIGIOUS FACILITY, BASICALLY JUST DECLARE IT.
IS THAT ACCURATE? I MEAN, THEY, YOU WOULD STILL NEED TO MEET THE ZONING ORDINANCE REQUIREMENT.
THERE'S A DEFINITION FOR RELIGIOUS FACILITY AND THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO MEET THAT STANDARD.
THE DEFINITION IS QUOTE, A BUILDING USED PRIMARILY FOR RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY AND WORSHIP, AND THOSE ACCESSORY ACTIVITIES, WHICH ARE CUSTOMARILY ASSOCIATED THERE WITH, AND THE PLACE OF RESIDENCE FOR RELIGIOUS PERSONNEL ON THE PREMISES.
NOW, UM, I SEE THAT ANYBODY COULD JUST DECLARE ANY BUILDING AS, UH, OKAY, THIS IS NOW USED FOR, UH, RELIGIOUS, UH, ASSEMBLY AND WORSHIP.
I'D HATE TO THINK THAT PEOPLE WOULD, UH, ABUSE THE CLASSIFICATION FOR, UM, UH, FOR PURPOSES THAT DON'T ALIGN WITH THE PURPOSE OF THIS, UH, CHANGE.
I THINK THAT, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE THOUGHT WAS, UM, MOST COMPELLING ABOUT THIS, WE DON'T HAVE THE DEFINITION, I THINK UP THERE, BUT THE DEFINITION ACTUALLY IS REQUIRED TO BE FREE.
SO WE THOUGHT SOME OF THE BUILT-IN LANGUAGE OF THE, UM, BRING THIS OVER HERE, THE TEMPORARY ACCESSORY HOUSING, UH, SHELTER.
IT'S SORT OF SELF-REGULATING BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE, UM, YOU NEED TO PROVIDE FREE HOUSING FOR PEOPLE.
SO I THINK THAT'S SOMEWHAT PROHIBITIVE.
WHILE THERE ARE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WOULD DO THAT, THE IDEA THAT THERE ARE IS A PREDOMINANCE, OR THAT THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S A HUGE, HAS A HUGE IMPACT ON THE CITY, I THINK WE THOUGHT WAS HIGHLY UNLIKELY, PERHAPS.
UM, BUT COUPLE THAT WITH ANOTHER PROVISION HERE SAYING THAT IT HAS TO BE NO MORE THAN 30 CALENDAR DAYS PER YEAR, QUOTE, UNDER NORMAL CONDITIONS.
HOW IS UNDER NORMAL CONDITIONS DEFINED? I WASN'T CLEAR ON THAT.
UH, UH, LET ME LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE AND SEE WHERE, WHERE IT SAYS THE UNDER NORMAL CONDITIONS, BECAUSE I DON'T REMEMBER THAT PART OF THE ORDINANCE.
LET ME, LEMME TRY TO PULL THAT BACK UP MYSELF.
IS THAT THE EXISTING MOVEMENT TODAY? THAT'S JUST THE EXISTING NO, THIS IS, AND THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN IN THE, UH, 15 2 1 RIGHT UP.
FIFTEEN.TO TWO, ONE, TEMPORARY ACCESS HOUSING SHELTER SHALL HOUSE A MAXIMUM OF 14 INDIVIDUALS AT ONE TIME AND SHALL OPERATE A MAXIMUM OF 30 DAYS PER CALENDAR YEAR UNDER NORMAL CONDITIONS.
BUT I'M NOT CLEAR WHAT THAT MEANS.
I'M JUST SAYING BETWEEN THESE, I SEE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ABUSE WHEN ALLOWING FACILITIES TO HELP PEOPLE AT NEED IS WHAT WE'RE REALLY AFTER.
'CAUSE I'M NOT, I'M NOT SEEING THE ABUSE OPPORTUNITY.
WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT OPEN YET.
I THINK THE, THE IDEA IS THAT THAT IS STILL THE NORMAL DEFINITION OF TEMPORARY ACCESSORY HOUSING SHELTER, BUT WE HAVE THESE EXCEPTIONS, THESE EXEMPTIONS OF LIFE-THREATENING WEATHER CONDITIONS AND DECLARED DISASTERS.
SO WHEN WE AMENDED THE ORDINANCE, WE, WE TOOK OUT OTHER STANDARDS, BUT WE, WE PUT THAT IN THERE THAT THERE ARE, UM, THESE ARE THE NORMAL CONDITIONS, THE 14 INDIVIDUALS IN 30 DAYS, BUT YOU'VE GOT THESE OTHER ALTERNATIVES.
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THANKS.THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.
I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, CONFINE THE COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL.
I, MR. MAYOR, I MOVE, WE APPROVE.
UM, THE, THE CONCERN I HAVE THAT I WAS GETTING AT WAS BASED ON THE DEFINITIONS, UM, UH, SPECIFYING UNDER NORMAL CONDITIONS AND BASICALLY BE BEING PERMITTED IN ANY STRUCTURE ACROSS THE CITY THAT DESIGNATES ITSELF A RELIGIOUS FACILITY.
UM, THEN WHENEVER THERE IS A, UH, WEATHER EVENT OR OTHER DISASTER, AND I'M THINKING COVID HERE, UM, BECAUSE WE WERE UNDER A DISASTER DECLARATION FROM MONTHS ON END THAT PREVENT PRO PROVIDES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEONE TO SAY, OPERATE A HOMELESS SHELTER, UM, OR SEVERAL IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, IT, IT'S WELL-INTENTIONED OR NOT WELL-INTENTIONED, UH, ABUSE OF WHAT WE'RE REALLY GOING FOR.
PART OF THE THINGS WE DISCUSSED, LIKE DURING, UH, WINTER STORM, URI WAS ALLOWING THE, UM, AND WE DID, UH, A NUMBER OF THE CHURCHES AROUND THE CITY AND, UH, MOSQUES TO OPEN UP AS, UH, EMERGENCY SHELTERS.
AND I KNOW THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE GETTING AT HERE, BUT UNDER A VARIETY OF CONDITIONS.
BUT, UH, BECAUSE RELIGIOUS FACILITY IS BASICALLY AT WILL, UM, UNDER OUR ZONING TERMS, AND BECAUSE THAT COVERS COULD COVER ANY STRUCTURE IN THE CITY, UM, I THINK IT'S PROBABLY NOT WELL DEFINED ENOUGH.
YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY A VERY INTERESTING POINT.
WHAT IF WE AMENDED IT TO SAY THAT IN THE CASE OF A LONG RUNNING DISASTER DECLARATION, UH, THAT, UH, THE COUNCIL WOULD CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THIS WOULD ALLOW TEMPORARY EMERGENCY HOUSING UNDER THAT DISASTER DECLARATION AT THE NEXT MEETING OF THE COUNCIL? THAT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE LIKE COVID OBVIOUSLY, I MEAN, THAT'S A GREAT POINT THAT WENT ON.
I, I THINK THAT DISASTER DECLARATION WENT ON FOR A YEAR OR TWO, AND I DON'T THINK THE INTENT WOULD BE TO ALLOW CONTINUOUS OPERATION OF TEMPORARY EMERGENCY HOUSING DURING, UH, DURING SUCH AN EVENT THAT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT WHERE IT'S ESPECIALLY HAZARDOUS TO BE OUTSIDE.
AND SO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT, UM, VERY QUICKLY TO THE POINT THAT YOU WERE DISCUSSING IN THE ORDINANCE.
WE HAVE, UM, AS IT READS NOW THAT IT'S DECLARED DISASTERS IN THE CITY OF PLANO IN CO, WE DIDN'T DECLARE A DISASTER IN THE CITY OF PLANO.
WE OPERATED UNDER THE STATE DISASTER DECLARATION.
AND SO THIS, THAT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ALLOWABLE PER THE ORDINANCE, WOULDN'T THE STATE OR EVEN FEDERAL DISASTER DECLARATION BE APPLICABLE? NO, THIS IS DECLARED DISASTERS IN THE CITY OF PLANO, WHICH WOULD BE THE CITY.
SO THERE ARE CITY DECLARED DISASTERS, THERE ARE STATE DECLARED DISASTERS, AND THERE ARE FEDERAL DECLARED DISASTERS.
THE WAY THIS READS IS THAT WE, THE CITY, OR I THINK THE WAY IT WAS INTENDED WAS THAT WE, THE CITY WOULD BE DECLARING THE DISASTER.
NOW, I'M, I'M NOT FAMILIAR ENOUGH WITH THE NUANCES OF THE LANGUAGE HERE, BUT WOULD A STATEWIDE DISASTER BE CONSIDERED TO BE IN EFFECT IN THE CITY OF PLANO? IT WOULD DEPEND ON WHETHER OR NOT WE, RIGHT NOW WE'RE STILL UNDER A COVID DIS OR WE WERE UNDER A COVID DISASTER DECLARATION UNTIL MAY OF THIS YEAR.
BUT WE DIDN'T OP WE DIDN'T OPERATE UNDER THE POWERS THAT WE HAVE FOR DISASTER DECLARATION.
SO IT'S WHETHER OR NOT THE CITY CHOOSES TO RECOGNIZE THAT THE, WHETHER OR NOT THE COUNCIL CHOOSES TO RECOGNIZE THAT DECLARATION AND USE THE POWERS OF THAT DECLARATION, THEN COULD WE AT LEAST REWORD THE, REWORD THIS WHERE IT SAYS, DECLARED DISASTERS IN THE CITY OF PLANO TO DISASTERS DECLARED BY THE CITY OF PLANO? YEAH, THAT'S FINE.
AND MAYOR, I'D LIKE THAT, I'D LIKE TO ASK PAT OUR, UH, CITY ATTORNEY AND ALSO IF, IF THIS DID BECOME A PROBLEM, AS, AS COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS IS, IS CONCERNED ABOUT, WE COULD CERTAINLY UNDO WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW, VERY, VERY, AS SOON BY SPECIAL MEETING IF NECESSARY.
I, I WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER COUNCILMAN RICK'S SUGGESTION OF EFFECTIVE RATIFICATION BY THE COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, UH, ON THAT POINT, UH, YOU KNOW, PART, WHAT IS IT, 15 DASH 2,102
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B ENDS WITH UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THE DISASTER STATUS IS RESCINDED, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, AND I WONDER IF WE COULD SAY OR, UH, THE NEED FOR TEMPORARY EMERGENCY HOUSING IS RESCINDED BECAUSE PRESUMABLY WE COULD HAVE A DISASTER LIKE COVID HAD WE CHOSEN TO DECLARE THAT A DISASTER WHERE WE DON'T WANT TO RES RESCIND THE DECLARATION, BUT IT'S NOT THE TYPE OF DISASTER THAT REQUIRES TEMPORARY EMERGENCY HOUSING.LIKE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, SOME DISASTERS WOULD, SOME DISASTERS, YOU KNOW, LIKE, LIKE COVID, YOU KNOW, DIDN'T NECESSARILY, UH, HAVE THAT IMPACT.
AND SO ANYWAY, I I, I ALSO THINK THAT'S A, A GOOD CLARIFICATION.
I THINK, SO, MAYOR, I, GO AHEAD.
I'D MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, WE APPROVE THIS WITH THE CHANGES COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS HAD ABOUT, UH, A DISASTER DECLARATION BY THE CITY OF OUR, YOU KNOW, CONDITION BY THE CITY OF PLANO.
SO WE'RE, I HAVE A MOTION TO AMEND THAT THE DECLARATION BY THE CITY OF PLANO, UH, FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
JUST VOTE TO AMEND OR VOTING ON THE, WE'RE VOTING ON, UH, ORDINANCE.
ON THE ORDINANCE WITH THE AMENDMENT.
IS THAT RIGHT, LISA? HE AMEND YOUR AMEND.
YEAH, HE AMEND, HE AMENDED THE MOTION BY THE CITY OF PLAINTIFF.
THEN MAYBE WE NEED, NEED TO TAKE THIS IN ORDER, BUT I'D ALSO LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT WE ADD, UH, AMENDMENT LANGUAGE, UM, UH, PROPOSED BY COUNCILMAN ELLI, WHICH IS WHAT, SORRY, CAN YOU ALL CLARIFY FOR MAYBE AMENDMENTS? I'M NOT SURE.
THE AMENDMENT IS ALL, ARE AMENDING THE, THE TWO AMENDMENTS.
THE FIRST AMENDMENT IS BY THE CITY OF PLANO.
THIS, THE B THE WORD B UH, DISASTER IS DECLARED BY THE CITY OF PLANO AS OPPOSED TO IN THE CITY OF PLANO, THE SECOND AMENDMENT.
WHAT'S THE SECOND AMENDMENT? SECOND.
BUT WE, WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND ON THE AMENDMENT CORRECT ON THAT.
BUT BASED ON OUR RULES OF PROCEDURE, WE, UH, WE CAN HAVE AN, AN INTERRUPTING MOTION TO OFFER AN AMENDMENT, WHICH MAY OR MAY PASS OR FAIL.
AND BASED ON THAT, WE CAN THEN MOVE FORWARD.
BUT, BUT IF MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THE AMENDMENT THAT, UH, COUNCILMAN RICK ELLI WAS TRYING TO HAVE, UH, PRESENT WAS THAT THE DISASTER WAS CLEARED BY THE BODY OF THE COUNCIL.
WHAT I WAS OFFERING WAS THAT THERE WOULD BE A WAY FOR US TO RESCIND THE NEED FOR TEMPORARY EMERGENCY HOUSING WITHOUT RESCINDING THE ENTIRE DISASTER DECLARATION.
THERE COULD BE SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO REMAIN A DISASTER, BUT DOESN'T IMPLICATE THE NEED FOR TEMPORARY EMERGENCY HOUSING.
YOU KNOW, COVID WAS A GREAT EXAMPLE.
I, I HADN'T EVEN THOUGHT OF THIS UNTIL COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS SAID THAT, BUT THAT WENT ON AND ON.
AND WHILE WE DIDN'T DECLARE IT IN THE CITY OF PLANO, WE EASILY COULD HAVE, AND I KNOW THERE ARE SOMETIMES BENEFITS TO HAVING A DECLARED DISASTER IN TERMS OF AVAILABLE FEDERAL OR STATE FUNDS.
AND, YOU KNOW, I I WAS JUST LOOKING FOR A WAY TO, TO UNTETHER THIS FROM HAVING THAT DECLARED DISASTER.
LIKE ESSENTIALLY THE DISASTER DECLARATION COULD CONTINUE, BUT WE COULD SAY WE'RE ENDING THE TEMPORARY EMERGENCY HOUSING PORTION OF IT.
SO MA, MAYOR, IF, IF, HOLD ON, LET MARK, I THINK WE'RE WAY OVERSAY EV WE ALL HAVE GREAT INTENTIONS.
I MEAN, I HAVE NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT, BUT WE'RE WAY OVERTHINKING THIS.
LET'S PUT THE, LET'S APPROVE, OR LET'S VOTE, I'M SORRY, LET'S VOTE ON THIS WITH THE AMENDMENT THAT'S ON THE TABLE THERE.
AND IF THAT DOESN'T PASS, THEN WE GO TO COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS. BUT AGAIN, IF WE DO THIS, AND GOD FORBID SOMETHING DOES DASTARDLY HAPPEN TO US, WE CAN CHANGE IT.
WHAT? JUST WITH A SPECIAL MEETING IF WE HAVE TO.
IT'S NOTHING THAT'S GONNA BE WITH US FOR THE REST OF OUR LIVES, BUT I THINK IT'S GREAT.
WE DO NEED TO BE PROACTIVE AND HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS JUST IN CASE, OR I SHOULD SAY, WHEN THINGS ALWAYS WILL HAPPEN LIKE THIS, AND WE'RE PREPARED FOR IT.
SO DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON, ON THIS SECOND AMENDMENT? WELL, IS THAT SECONDED? UM, I THOUGHT ANTHONY DID.
UH, YEAH, I MEAN, I, I GUESS I, I WAS SUGGESTING IT'S ALL SECOND
OKAY, SO WE'RE GONNA VOTE ON THE SECOND AMENDMENT.
IT, IT WOULD BE TO ADD LANGUAGE AFTER, UNTIL SUCH TIME AS, WAIT, I'M SORRY.
SO, UH, ADD LANGUAGE AFTER, IN 15 DASH 2,102 B, ADD ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE AFTER, UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THE DISASTER STATUS IS RESCINDED TO STATE, OR UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THE COUNCIL RESCINDS THE NEED FOR TEMPORARY EMERGENCY HOUSING UNDER THE DISASTER DECLARATION.
EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND THAT? YES.
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I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU'RE ADDING THAT.IT'S A, IT'S, IT'S BASICALLY TO, TO RESCIND THE EMERGENCY DECLARATION AT, AT OUR DISCRETION.
I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT'S STILL IN HERE BY THE CITY MANAGER.
WHAT'D YOU SAY? SO ARE, IS HE TRY, IS HE TRYING TO SAY THAT THE CITY MANAGER IS STILL GONNA GET TO DESIGNATED OR IS HE TRYING TO CHANGE IT TO WHERE THE CITY COUNCIL WILL HAVE TO DESIGNATE IT? SO I, I WAS NOT TRYING TO MESS WITH PART A.
SO UNDER 15 DASH 2100.2, THERE'S AN A, AND THAT'S THE LIFE-THREATENING WEATHER CONDITIONS IS DETERMINED BY THE CITY MANAGER.
AND THEN PART B IS DECLARED DISASTERS IN THE CITY OF PLANO, WHICH I THINK WOULD BE DECLARED BY THE MAYOR.
AND THEN I THINK HAS TO BE CONTINUED BY THE COUNCIL, IF I REMEMBER THE STANDARDS CORRECTLY.
AND I WAS SAYING ESSENTIALLY THAT, UM, THAT WITHOUT RESCINDING THE ENTIRE DISASTER DECLARATION, WE COULD SAY THIS PARTICULAR DISASTER IS NOT OF THE TYPE THAT NEEDS TEMPORARY EMERGENCY HOUSING.
AND THUS RESCIND THAT PART OF IT WITHOUT HAVING TO THROW THE BABY OUT WITH THE BATH WATER, NOT HAVING TO RESCIND THE ENTIRE, I CAN JUST LIKE I ADD ONE WORD, ASK ONE OR AMEND.
CAN I ASK, CAN I ASK ONE QUESTION REAL QUICK? HOLD ON.
SO WHEN WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN THROUGH AND COUNSEL, Y'ALL BEEN GREAT, AND I, I APPRECIATE ALL THE, THE DISCUSSION TO GET THIS EXACTLY RIGHT.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT I RECALL THAT WE, WE'VE DONE THROUGH A, A NUMBER OF STRENUOUS SITUATIONS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY IS ANY OF THE DECLARATIONS THAT Y'ALL HAD, HAD TIME LIMITS TO THEM TO BEGIN WITH.
SO THEY, THEY, THE POWERS THAT YOU EXERTED TO ME, THE POWERS THAT YOU HAD FOR DECLARATIONS HAD TO BE REVISITED BY COUNCIL WITHIN THOSE DECLARATIONS THEMSELVES.
SO WHILE YOU'RE PUTTING THIS IN THERE, THERE, I THINK THERE'S MORE THAN ONE WAY TO GO ABOUT THIS.
AND PART OF THAT INITIAL DECLARATION CAN BE A TIME LIMIT THAT REQUIRES THIS TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL.
AND AGAIN, ON PART OF THE CHALLENGES I I SEE OF THIS IS THAT YOU'RE ORDAINING THIS, YOU'RE PUTTING THIS IN, IN THIS, THAT'S CREATING A ADDITIONAL COMPONENTS TO THIS.
AND I, I THINK WE'VE ALL LEARNED OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS THAT THERE'S A LOT THAT WE DON'T KNOW THAT WILL COME DOWN THE PATH.
AND, AND I THINK THAT HAVING, HAVING FLEXIBILITY, AND THIS IS NOT A BAD THING, BUT I THINK YOUR PRACTICES HAVE BEEN VERY SOLID IN PUTTING IN EXPIRATIONS AS YOU'VE BEEN CREATING SOME OF SOME OF THOSE ELEMENTS.
SO I JUST WANTED TO REMIND YOU, THAT'S BEEN YOUR PRACTICE AS YOU'VE, AS YOU'VE GONE FORWARD.
AND I THINK THAT IN MY OPINION, THAT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL, UH, AS A PRACTICE.
THERE WERE A COUPLE OF OTHER SUGGESTIONS I HAD
WELL, I, I, I DO LIKE, UH, THE CITY MANAGER'S NOTION THAT BAKING IN EXPIRATION DATES HAS SERVED US WELL.
IT REQUIRES US TO INTENTIONALLY REVISIT THE SUBJECT.
THAT'S SOMETHING I'D KIND OF LIKE TO CODIFY, BUT I ALSO WANTED TO SUGGEST, UH, REMOVING THIS FROM RESIDENTIAL AREAS, UM, SINCE IT'S PERMITTED IN ALL OF OUR ZONING CATEGORIES, UH, PUT IT IN NON-RESIDENTIAL.
NOT, NOT TO, NOT TO BELABOR THE DISCUSSION, BUT THINK A LOT OF CHURCHES ACTUALLY HAVE SINGLE FAMILY CAN'T BE IN A ZONING.
IT'S NOT IN A RESIDENCE, CORRECT.
YOU'RE YOU'RE SAYING IT WOULDN'T, IT WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED IN A RESIDENCE.
IN A RESIDENCE RESIDENCE, OKAY.
THAT'S NOW DO WE, DO WE HAVE, HOW DO YOU, DO WE HAVE CHURCHES IN THE RESIDENCE LIKE SF SEVEN SSF? YES.
THEN, THEN, THEN I WOULD SAY IN A RESIDENCE.
BUT MR. MAYOR, I THINK WE'RE JUST REALLY OVERTHINKING THIS.
I MEAN, THIS IS TEMPORARY FOR GOD'S SAKE, YOU KNOW.
UM, WELL, LET'S, LET'S GO BACK, LET'S CLEAN THIS UP A LITTLE BIT.
SO ANTHONY, AND, AND SHELBY'S, UH, SECOND AMENDMENT, LET'S ALL VOTE ON THAT, YES OR NO? AND IT'S ON THE CAMERA AND THEN IT'S IN THE PART IN BLUE IS WHAT? YES.
THE PART IN BLUE THE BOTTOM OR CHECK OUT RESCINDS.
PARDON? BUT WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON IS THE WRITING AT THE BOTTOM, CORRECT? NOT THE BUY BY WAS THAT WAS ALREADY, YEAH.
SO, SO THIS IS, THIS IS TO VOTE ON, OR CITY COUNCIL RESCINDS SUCH NEED FOR HOUSING? WELL, BASED ON THE CITY MANAGER'S SUGGESTION, AND I'LL LOOK TO COUNCILMAN RICK ELLI FOR THIS.
WOULD WE WANNA REVISE THIS WORDING TO AUTOMATICALLY GIVE IT A TWO WEEK OR 30 DAY EXPIRATION? YOU KNOW, I, I'D BE, I'D BE FINE DOING THAT, BUT I, I, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN TAKE ACTION AS A COUNCIL.
I MEAN, I DO LIKE EXPIRATION DATES AND, AND I THINK WE WOULD WANT TO PUT, YOU KNOW, IN, IN THE EVENT OF A LONG RUNNING DECLARATION, I GUESS WE WOULD WANT TO DO THAT.
I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT WE WOULD HAVE ONE THOUGH, WHERE THERE'S LIKE A WEATHER TYPE DISASTER THAT WOULD
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BE THAT LONG RUNNING.BUT YEAH, I THINK, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE, I'M, I'M, I'M, I'M, I, I APPRECIATE IT, BUT I'M, I'M GOOD WITH VOTING ON THIS LEVEL.
ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE GONNA VOTE ON CITY COUNCIL RESCINDS SUCH NEED FOR HOUSING AMENDMENT.
DOES EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND
THAT COMES, THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT? YEAH.
SO THIS ONE IS UP OR DOWN WHETHER WE NEED TO ADD THAT, THAT LANGUAGE AT THE BOTTOM? YES, PLEASE VOTE.
CASEY, DO YOU, THIS IS THAT SECOND AMENDMENT PART.
DO, DO YOU, THAT WE'RE ADDING IF WE WANT TO RESCIND THE HOUSING PART? YES.
I DO NOT WANNA TAKE OUT THE HOUSING PART.
SO I GUESS THAT WAS NO, YEAH, IT WAS, NO.
SO NOW WE ADD THAT TO THE AMENDMENT AND LET'S VOTE ON IT.
IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT? WELL, I'D STILL LIKE CLARIFICATION UNDER FOR, BUT UNDER NORMAL CIRCUM CONDITIONS MEANS 'CAUSE 30 DAYS UNDER NORMAL CONDITIONS, BUT IF THAT'S NOT DEFINED, 30 DAYS IS KIND OF MEANINGLESS.
WHAT, 30 DAYS? WHAT ARE WE TALKING? THIS, THIS IS SECTION, UH, 15 POINT 21, UM, MAXIMUM MATTER OF TIME.
A TEMPORARY SHALL HOUSE A MAXIMUM OF 14 INDIVIDUALS AT ONE TIME AND SHALL OPERATE A MAXIMUM OF 30 DAYS PER CALENDAR YEAR.
CHRISTINA, UNDER NORMAL CONDITIONS, CAN YOU HELP US WITH THIS? RIGHT? I I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE COMPARISON THERE IS BETWEEN THE, THE NORMAL DEFINITION OR THE CURRENT DEFINITION, AND THEN THE PROPOSED EXEMPTIONS.
SO THE EXEMPTIONS ARE THE NON-NORMAL CONDITIONS.
THE NORMAL CONDITION IS THE 14 PEOPLE 30 DAYS.
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL AREN'T, Y'ALL ARE CONFUSED SITTING THERE, BUT TRYING TO DO THIS WAY WAS DOING IT ON ZOOM'S IMPOSSIBLE, BUT IT'S REALLY CONFUSING.
YEAH, WE'RE, YEAH, THIS IS REALLY CONFUSING.
I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT Y'ALL ARE TRYING TO DO OUT THERE.
OKAY, WELL, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO RIGHT NOW IS VOTE ON THE FIRST, UM, UH, MOTION AND SECOND WITH THE AMENDMENT, WHICH WAS BY THE CITY OF PLANO SECOND.
AND THE SECOND AMENDMENT, WHICH PASSED.
SO DO YOU MEAN MR. MAYOR THAT WE'RE VOTING ON THE, BY THE CITY OF PLANO AMENDMENT NOW, OR WE'RE VOTING ON THE ENTIRE ORDINANCE? EVERYTHING ON EVERYTHING ON B, WE, WE ALREADY PROVED THE SECOND.
RIGHT? I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR WHETHER WE'RE VOTING ON THE AMENDMENT ITSELF OR THE ORDINANCE WITH THE AMENDMENT.
WELL, THE ORDINANCE WITH THE AMENDMENT OF BY, AND THEN OF COURSE, WHAT YOU GUYS JUST VOTED ON AT THE BOTTOM IS INCLUDED.
SO IT WILL ALL, ALL OF BE WITH THE WRITING IS, IS INCLUDED.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON NOW.
RIGHT NOW, EVERYTHING THAT'S SHOWN RIGHT THERE ON THAT, CAN WE VOTE NOW? YEAH, AS SOON AS LISA RESETS, I'M, I'M STILL NOT CLEAR.
IS, ARE WE VOTING ON WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW OR THE ENTIRE ORDINANCE WITH WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW? THE ENTIRE, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ORDINANCE, THE ENTIRE ORDINANCE WITH, WITH THE ADDITION OF TWO PART B.
OKAY, WELL THEN I'M AFRAID THAT WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING UNDER WHAT OR WHAT UNDER NORMAL CONDITIONS MEANS I CAN'T GET ON BOARD WITH THE, OKAY, WE'RE STILL VOTING.
[(6)
Public Hearing and consideration of an Ordinance to accept and approve a Service and Assessment Plan and Improvement Area #1 Assessment Roll for the Haggard Farm Public Improvement District; making a finding of special benefit to the property in Improvement Area #1 of the District; levying special assessments against property within Improvement Area #1 of the district and establishing a lien on such property; providing for the method of assessment and the payment of the assessments in accordance with Chapter 372, Texas Local Government Code, as amended; providing penalties and interest on delinquent Assessments; providing for severability; and providing an effective date.
]ALL RIGHT.ITEM NUMBER SIX, PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE TO ACCEPT AND IMPROVE A SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN AND IMPROVEMENT AREA.
NUMBER ONE, ASSESSMENT ROLE FOR THE HAGGER FARM PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DIS DISTRICT MAKING A FINDING OF SPECIAL BENEFIT TO THE PROPERTY IN IMPROVEMENT AREA.
ONE OF THE DISTRICT LEVYING SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS AGAINST THE PROPERTY WITHIN IMPROVEMENT AREA, ONE OF THE DISTRICT, AND ESTABLISHING A LIEN ON SUCH PROPERTY PROVIDING FOR THE METHOD OF ASSESSMENT AND THE PAYMENT OF ASSESSMENTS IN ACCORDANCE WITH CHAPTER 3 72, TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE AS AMENDED, PROVIDING PENALTIES AND INTEREST ON DELINQUENT ASSESSMENTS, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
PETER BRASS, DIRECTOR OF SPECIAL PROJECTS WITH ME IS JORDAN SAWYER, OUR BOND COUNCIL.
SO IF YOU HAVE SOME SPECIFIC QUESTIONS AS WE MOVE THROUGH THESE ITEMS, UH, FEEL FREE, UH, TO ASK EITHER ONE OF US PROBABLY, I'M
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NOT GONNA UNDERSTAND THE BOND STUFF, SO JUST BEAR WARNING.UM, UH, DENISE TACKY COULDN'T BE HERE TONIGHT, BUT WE HAVE, UH, JORDAN HERE WHO'S, UH, REALLY WELL VERSED IN ALL THIS STUFF.
THE FIRST ORDER, FIRST ITEM IS AGAIN, TO OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, TAKE ANY PUB, UH, PUBLIC INPUT AND, UH, THEN VOTE ON APPROVING THE SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN, WHICH SETS UP THE ASSESSMENTS AND THE ASSESSMENT ROLE.
UM, IT DOES NOT APPROVE THE BOND.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR PETER? I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.
I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
CONFINE THE COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL.
I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND TO APPROVE.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX, PLEASE VOTE.
SHALL OH, NO, NO, HE IS NOT MARIA.
[(7) Consideration of an Ordinance to approve and authorize the issuance and sale of the City of Plano, Texas, Special Assessment Revenue Bonds, Series 2023 (Haggard Farm Public Improvement District Improvement Area #1 Project); approving and authorizing related agreements; providing for severability; and providing an effective date.
AS A REMINDER, THIS IS FOR THAT, JUST THAT ONE A.
THAT'S THE ASSESSMENT YOU JUST PASSED.
THIS IS THE BOND TO GO ALONG WITH THAT ASSESSMENT.
IT IS, AGAIN, THESE ARE NOT BONDS THAT, UH, HIT OUR BALANCE SHEET.
UH, THIS THIS'S NOT A PUBLIC HEARING, SO I CAN, I CAN HEAR A MOTION.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, PLEASE VOTE CASEY.
[(8)
Public Hearing and consideration of an Ordinance to accept and approve a Service and Assessment Plan and Major Improvement Area Assessment Roll for the Haggard Farm Public Improvement District; making a finding of special benefit to the property in the Major Improvement Area of the District; levying special assessments against property within the Major Improvement Area of the District and establishing a lien on such property; providing for the method of assessment and the payment of the assessments in accordance with Chapter 372, Texas Local Government Code, as amended; providing penalties and interest on delinquent Assessments; providing for severability; and providing an effective date.
LEVYING SPECIALIST LEVYING SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS AGAINST PROPERTY WITHIN THE MAJOR IMPROVEMENT AREA OF THE DISTRICT AND ESTABLISHING A LIEN ON SUCH PROPERTY PROVIDING FOR THE METHOD OF ASSESSMENT AND THE PAYMENT OF THE ASSESSMENTS IN ACCORDANCE WITH CHAPTER 3 72, TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE AS AMENDED, PROVIDING PENALTIES AND INTEREST ON DELINQUENT ASSESSMENTS, PROVIDING FIRST EVER ABILITY AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
SO THIS ITEM IS AGAIN, A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AN ASSESSMENT ON THE REMAINDER OF THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT HAGGARD FARM PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
UM, IT HAS THE SAME SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN AS THE PREVIOUS ONE, BUT THIS IS NOW ATTACHED TO THIS AND OUTLINES THESE ASSESSMENTS.
UM, SO, UH, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT.
I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.
CONFINE THE COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL.
WILL WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.
AND SECOND TO APPROVE, UH, AGENDA.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, PLEASE VOTE.
[(9)
Consideration of an Ordinance to approve and authorize the issuance and sale of the City of Plano, Texas, Special Assessment Revenue Bonds, Series 2023 (Haggard Farm Public Improvement District Major Improvement Area Project); approving and authorizing related agreements; providing for severability; and providing an effective date.
ITEM NINE, CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE TO APPROVE AND AUTHORIZE THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF THE CITY OF PLAINTIFF'S SPECIAL ASSESSMENT REVENUE BOND SERIES 2023, HAGGARD FARM, PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, MAJOR IMPROVEMENT AREA, PROJECT APPROVING AND AUTHORIZED AND RELATED AGREEMENTS PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE LIKE THE, LIKE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.
THIS IS A BOND TO GO AGAINST THE ASSESSMENT THAT YOU JUST APPROVED.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER ON THIS ITEM.
UM, PLANO, UH, I SLEPT ALL THE WAY OVER HERE FROM WEST PLANO TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT ITEM TWO, WHICH WAS TABLED.
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UM, MAYBE WHEN SOMEBODY COMES, YOU SHOULD GIVE THEM OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.SO I FIGURED SINCE I WAS HERE, I WOULD TALK ON ITEM NINE.
I AM AGAINST ISSUING DEBT FOR A PRIVATE COMPANY'S DEVELOPMENT PROJECT.
I AND MANY OTHER RESIDENTS WERE AGAINST GETTING RID OF OUR AG TO BUILD A HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT.
NOW, HAGGARD IS COMING TO THE CITY TO HELP BUILD THEIR PRIVATE, UH, FOR-PROFIT DEVELOPMENT THAT MANY RESIDENTS DID NOT WANT, INCLUDING MYSELF.
IF A DEVELOPMENT WANTS TO BUILD, THEY NEED TO DO IT ON THEIR OWN, NOT ASK THE TAXPAYERS TO HELP FUND IT.
IF I MAY JUST MAKE A QUICK CLARIFICATION THAT I THINK MAY ADDRESS THAT.
SO I, I ACTUALLY VOTED AGAINST THE ZONING ON THIS.
UH, BUT THIS ITEM IS, UH, UH, JUST A, A, A MECHANISM THAT ESSENTIALLY THEY'RE GONNA BE TAXING THEMSELVES OR THE, UH, THE, THE PEOPLE TO WHOM THEY SELL THE LAND.
AND, UH, I, I'VE ACTUALLY, UH, IN, IN THE CONTEXT OF A DIFFERENT PIT, UH, WORKED WITH CITY MANAGER ISRAELSON, UH, PETER BRATER AND OTHERS, UH, UH, THANK YOU, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING OPEN TO THIS.
TO GET VERY, UH, PRECISE LANGUAGE IN THERE, IN BOLD, IN ITALICS THAT SAYS THAT YOU, ANYBODY WHO BUYS THIS PROPERTY IS SIGNING UP VOLUNTARILY TO PAY AN ASSESSMENT ABOVE AND BEYOND THEIR PROPERTY TAXES AND THAT THEIR PROPERTY MAY BE FORECLOSED ON IF THEY DON'T PAY IT.
SO THIS IS, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE NOT GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS OF THE CITY.
THE CITY IS NOT, UH, ESSENTIALLY IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A VEHICLE FOR THEM TO TAX THEIR OWN PROPERTY.
UH, IF, IF, IF, IF, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING IT CORRECTLY.
SO I JUST THOUGHT THAT CLARIFICATION MIGHT HELP.
I'LL, I'LL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE, PLEASE VOTE.
THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS MEETINGS ADJOURNED, MR.