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THANK YOU GUYS FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.
SPEAKER BUTTON, ME AND THIS GUY'S PLAYING TAG BACK HERE.
SO ANYWAY, HE TAKES GREAT CARE OF ME ON THE SPEAKER BUTTON, BUT I MESS HIM UP.
[CALL TO ORDER]
YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.IT IS RIGHT AT SEVEN O'CLOCK AND WE ARE GOING TO, UH, CONVENE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION THIS EVENING.
IF YOU WOULD PLEASE RISE AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST.
THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING IS TO ALLOW UP TO THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER WITH 30 TOTAL MINUTES ON ITEMS OF INTEREST OR CONCERN AND NOT ON ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE CURRENT AGENDA.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MAY NOT DISCUSS THESE ITEMS, BUT MAY RESPOND WITH FACTUAL OR POLICY INFORMATION.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA.
PRESIDING OFFICER MAY MODIFY THESE TIMES AS DEEMED NECESSARY.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? NO, WE DO NOT.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
THANK YOU.THE CONSENT AGENDA WILL BE ACTED UPON IN ONE MOTION AND CONTAINS ITEMS WHICH ARE ROUTINE AND TYPICALLY NON-CONTROVERSIAL ITEMS. ITEMS MAY BE REMOVED FROM THIS AGENDA FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION BY COMMISSIONERS OR STAFF.
WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO REMOVE AN ITEM FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA? I MOVE.
WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS SUBMITTED.
SO I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BRONSKI WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER TONG TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA, PLEASE VOTE.
OKAY, WE HAVE AN ERROR ON OUR VOTING, SO WE'LL HAVE TO GET THIS STRAIGHT.
MR. LYLE IS HERE, NOT MR. OLLIE.
SO WE NEED TO TELL YOU WHAT, WHILE SHE'S, UH, DOING THAT, LET'S JUST DO A QUICK HAND VOTE.
SO THAT ITEM CARRIES SIX TO ZERO, SO WE'LL LET HER GET THAT STRAIGHTENED UP AND
[1. (KC) Public Hearing: Zoning Case 2023-006 - Request for Specific Use Permits for a Private Club and Food Truck Park on 0.8 acre located 524 feet north of Park Boulevard, and 940 feet east of Preston Road. Zoned Retail. Project #ZC2023-006. Tabled on September 5, 2023. Petitioner: Amreit SSPF Preston Gold, LP (Request to table to October 2, 2023.)]
WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM ONE.ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION, PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS, UNLESS INSTRUCTED OTHERWISE BY THE CHAIR, SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER.
APPLICANTS ARE LIMITED TO A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES OF PRESENTATION TIME WITH A FIVE MINUTE REBUTTAL IF NEEDED.
REMAINING SPEAKERS ARE LIMITED TO 30 TOTAL MINUTES OF TESTIMONY TIME WITH THREE MINUTES ASSIGNED PER SPEAKER.
THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY MODIFY THESE TIMES IS DEEMED NECESSARY.
ADMINISTRATIVE CONSIDERATION ITEMS MUST BE APPROVED IF THEY MEET CITY DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
LEGISLATIVE CONSIDERATION ITEMS ARE MORE DISCRETIONARY EXCEPT AS CONSTRAINED BY LEGAL CONSIDERATIONS.
AGENDA ITEM ONE, PUBLIC HEARING ZONING CASE 2023 DASH 0 0 6.
THIS IS A REQUEST FOR SPECIFIC USE PERMITS FOR A PRIVATE CLUB AND FOOD TRUCK PARK ON ONE, I'M SORRY, ON 0.8 ACRE.
LOCATED 524 FEET NORTH OF PARK BOULEVARD AND 940 FEET EAST OF PRESTON ROAD.
THIS WAS TABLED ON SEPTEMBER 5TH, 2023.
PETITIONER IS AMERIT, S S P F, PRESTON GOLD LP.
THIS IS FOR LEGISLATIVE CONSIDERATION.
MY NAME IS KATYA COPELAND AND I'M THE SENIOR PLANNER WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
THE APPLICANTS HAVE REQUESTED TO TABLE THIS REQUEST TO THE OCTOBER 2ND PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING AND STAFF SUPPORTS THAT REQUEST AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON ITEM ONE? ON ITEM ONE? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON ITEM ONE? NO, WE DO NOT.
I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, FIND DISCUSSION OF THE COMMISSION.
WE WE TABLE ZONING CASE NUMBER 2023 DASH OH OH SIX TO THE OCTOBER 2ND, 2023 MEETING.
SECOND, HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RATLIFF WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BROSKY.
TO ACCEPT THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO TABLE, PLEASE VOTE THAT ITEM CARRIES SIX TO ZERO ITEM
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TWO AND YOU CAN READ A AND B TOGETHER.AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO AND TWO B, PUBLIC HEARING ZONING CASE 2023 DASH ZERO 13 REQUEST TO REZONE 7.9 ACRES LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF MUNICIPAL AVENUE AND 13TH STREET FROM LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ONE TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DOWNTOWN BUSINESS GOVERNMENT TO ALLOW OUTDOOR
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COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT AS AN ADDITIONAL USE AND TO MODIFY DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO.SETBACK, HEIGHT PARKING TABLED ON SEPTEMBER 15TH, 2023.
PETITIONER IS 2022 PLANO LUNA LP.
THIS IS FOR LEGISLATIVE CONSIDERATION, PUBLIC HEARING.
ITEM TWO B IS A CONCEPT PLAN RAILSIDE EDITION BLOCK, A LOTS ONE AND 2 390 MULTIFAMILY RESIDENCE UNITS ON LOT ONE RESTAURANT AND OUTDOOR COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT ON LOT TWO ON 6.7 ACRES LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF MUNICIPAL AVENUE AND 13TH STREET ZONED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ONE AGAIN APPLICANT IS 2022 PLANO LUNA LP.
THIS IS FOR ADMINISTRATIVE CONSIDERATION.
THIS REQUEST IS TO CHANGE THE ZONING FROM LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ONE TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DOWNTOWN BUSINESS GOVERNMENT TO ALLOW FOR OUTDOOR COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT WITH MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTS AND COMMERCIAL USES IN A PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED CONTEXT.
HIGHLIGHTED ON THE SCREEN IN YELLOW IS THE PROPERTY ACROSS 13TH STREET.
THE PROPERTIES ARE ZONED RETAIL AND ARE DEVELOPED WITH SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES, VEHICLE STORAGE AND VACANT PROPERTY.
ACROSS N AVENUE IS THE PROPERTY IS ZONED RETAIL AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ONE AND IS DEVELOPED WITH COMMERCIAL ANTENNA SUPPORT STRUCTURE, UTILITY DISTRIBUTION LINE, AND A DART RAILROAD RIGHT OF WAY.
IMMEDIATELY SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT.
PROPERTY IS DART RIGHT OF WAY AND ACROSS THE DART IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ONE ACROSS MUNICIPAL AVENUE.
THE PROPERTIES ARE ZONED LIGHT COMMERCIAL WITH SPECIFIC USE PERMITS.
NUMBER 1 66 FOR TRANSIT CENTER STATION AND NUMBER 4 0 6 CONTRACT CONSTRUCTION AND ARE DEVELOPED WITH SERVICE CONTRACTORS, PROFESSIONAL GENERAL ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES AND A TRANSIT CENTER STATION.
ON THE SCREEN IS THE COMPANION CONCEPT PLAN.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 390 UNIT MULTI-FAMILY BUILDING WITH SMALL POCKETS OF ACTIVE OPEN SPACE AND A PARKING GARAGE ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
ON THE EASTERN SIDE, A RESTAURANT AND PATIO ARE PROPOSED IN ADDITION TO OUTDOOR COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT AND A SURFACE PARKING LOT.
THE LARGE EXISTING WAREHOUSE BUILDING ALONG THE DART RAILROAD RIGHT OF WAY IS PROPOSED TO BE PRESERVED AND REUSED AS THE OUTDOOR COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT SPACE.
THERE WILL ALSO BE ON STREET PARKING ALONG 13TH STREET AND PROPOSED PRIVATE SHERIFF STREET.
THIS IS A COLORED CONCEPT PLAN AS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS DESIGNATED DOWNTOWN CORRIDORS ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
THE REQUEST DOES NOT CONFORM TO THE MIX OF USES.
RGM FIVE A R GM FIVE B WITHIN THE DT DASHBOARD AND FINDINGS ARE REQUIRED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR THIS ITEM.
THIS PROPERTY IS UNIQUELY SITUATED BETWEEN STREETS AND TRANSIT RIGHT OF WAY AND IS SURROUNDED BY EXISTING DEVELOPMENT.
THE PROPOSED 12TH STREET SILVER LINE STATION IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS PROPERTY TO BECOME A TRANSIT-ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT.
SHOWN ON THE SCREEN IS THE INITIAL CONCEPT PLAN AND THE CURRENT CONCEPT LAYOUT.
THE MAJOR CHANGES WHEN DOING A SIDE-BY-SIDE COMPARISON IS THE INCREASE IN RESIDENTIAL REDUCTION IN NON-RESIDENTIAL AND THE INTERNAL STREET ALIGNMENT IN AS THE INITIAL CONCEPT LAYOUT CONNECTED TO N M AVENUE.
THIS PROPERTY IS RIPE FOR REDEVELOPMENT AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION SHOULD CONSIDER THE APPROPRIATE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT WOULD BEST SUPPORT THE LONG RANGE GOAL FOR THIS AREA TO THE CITY.
UH, CAN WE PLEASE MOVE THE SLIDE FORWARD? ONE.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO ALLOW 390 UNITS WITHIN THE SUBJECT PROPERTY EXCEEDING THE TYPICAL BLOCK LENGTH BY 30% WITHIN THE BG ZONING DISTRICT.
THE BG DISTRICT ALLOWS FOUR STORIES OF MULTIFAMILY BY RIGHT OR FOUR STORIES OF MULTIFAMILY MAY BE CONSTRUCTION CONSTRUCTED ON A HORIZONTAL STRUCTURE.
CONCRETE PODIUM WHERE THE FIRST FLOOR CONSISTS OF NON-RESIDENTIAL USES FLEX SPACE OR PARKING ADJACENT TO 13TH STREET.
TO RESPECT THE EXISTING ONE ONE-STORY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO RESTRICT THE BUILDING HEIGHTS TO A MAXIMUM OF FOUR STORIES AND 55 FEET WITH A MAXIMUM OF 35 FOOT SETBACK FOR THE REMAINDER OF LOT ONE.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING FIVE STORIES AND 65 FEET WITH A SETBACK BETWEEN 15 AND 20 FEET FROM MUNICIPAL AVENUE.
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THE APPLICANT PROPOSES A PD UH, STIPULATION THAT WOULD DELAY DEVELOPMENT OF MULTIFAMILY UNTIL THE EARLIER OF JANUARY 1ST, 2025 OR AFTER ISSUING A BUILDING PERMIT TO CONSTRUCT OR REPURPOSE 5,000 SQUARE FEET OF NON-RESIDENTIAL SPACE.THIS STIPULATION DOES NOT PROVIDE ANY FIRM COMMITMENT TO COMMERCIAL USES.
STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE PD STIPULATIONS, NOTING THE BUILDING FACADES MAY NOT EXCEED 150 FEET IN LENGTH WITHOUT AN INS INSERT VERTICAL BREAK OF AT LEAST THREE FEET.
80% OF THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS MAY HAVE A TRUE BALCONY OR PATIO AND PRIVATE OPEN SPACE IS REQUIRED AT A RATE OF 50 SQUARE FEET PER UNIT AND WILL BE PROVIDED IN THE INTERIOR COURTYARDS.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO ADD PICKLEBALL COURTS TO THE EXISTING WAREHOUSE BUILDING, NOTING THE OPERATIONAL AND LOCATION RESTRICTIONS WITHIN THE PD.
PROVIDES CLARITY ON WHAT TYPES OF OUTDOOR COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT USES WILL BE ALLOWED AS THERE ARE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS ACROSS 13TH STREET.
HOWEVER, STAFF IS CONCERNED THAT THIS REQUEST IS NOT FOLLOWING THE PURPOSE OF A PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
AS NOTED IN ARTICLE 12 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, AND AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING THAT VERTICAL RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION MAY NOT OCCUR UNTIL THE EARLIER OF JANUARY 1ST, 2025 OR AFTER THE ISSUANT OF A BUILDING PERMIT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OR REPURPOSING OF 5,000 SQUARE FEET OF NON-RESIDENTIAL SPACE TO MEET THE PURPOSE OF A PLAN DEVELOPMENT COMMITMENTS OR RESTRICTIONS ARE NECESSARY TO COMMIT, FULFILLING A BALANCED MIX OF USES ON THE PROPERTY.
A MIX OF USES IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN STAFF DOES NOT SUPPORT THE PROPOSED TIMING OF CONSTRUCTION STANDARD.
THE COMMITMENT TO NON-RESIDENTIAL USES IS ABSENT WITH JUST 5,000 SQUARE FEET OF NON-RESIDENTIAL SPACE.
OUT OF THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE EXCEEDING 28,000, THE PROPOSED MULTI-FAMILY USE COULD BE ACCOMMODATED WITH SOME SITE MODIFICATIONS WITH STRAIGHT BG ZONING INSTEAD OF A PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
SHOWN ON THE SCREEN IS THE PURPOSE OF A PLAN DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS LOCATED IN ARTICLE 12 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
ON THIS SLIDE IN THE NEXT TWO SLIDES ARE THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT STIPULATIONS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.
WE RECEIVED EIGHT UNIQUE INFA RESPONSES WITHIN THE 200 FOOT BUFFER AND WE RECEIVED 47 UNIQUE RESPONSES, 43 IN SUPPORT AND FOREIGN OPPOSITION.
WE RECEIVED TWO DUPLICATES AND TWO RESPONSES OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF PLANO.
AND AFTER THE CUTOFF TIME, WE DID RECEIVE ONE ADDITIONAL ONLINE RESPONSE THAT WAS IN FAVOR.
TO SUMMARIZE, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ONE TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DOWNTOWN BUSINESS GOVERNMENT TO ALLOW FOR OUTDOOR COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT WITH MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTS AND COMMERCIAL USES IN A PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED CONTEXT, THIS PROPERTY IS RIPE FOR REDEVELOPMENT.
HOWEVER, THE REQUEST IS DISFAVORED BECAUSE THE PROP PROPOSAL LACKS CONFORMITY WITH KEY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICIES.
THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO REDUCE AND ADJUST THE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT AND PROPOSE A MORE, PROPOSE MORE COMMITMENTS TO COMMERCIAL USES, WHICH WOULD BETTER SUPPORT THE GOALS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ALIGN WITH OTHER DEVELOPMENTS IN DOWNTOWN PLANO.
STAFF DOES NOT SEE A VIABLE NEED TO HAVE A PLAN DEVELOPMENT FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WHERE TYPICAL BG ZONING COULD BE ACCOMMODATED FOR THESE REASONS AND WITHOUT NECESSARY CHANGES.
THIS REQUEST, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL.
AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
SO I SEE SEVERAL THINGS POPPING UP HERE.
UH, I HAVE ONE, BUT MY GUESS IS ONE OF THEM IS GONNA ASK THE SAME QUESTION ANYWAY, SO WE'LL GO FIRST WITH MR. BRUNO.
AND LET'S, LET'S KEEP IN MIND THESE ARE TECHNICAL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
WE'LL WAIT UNTIL THE DEVELOPER SPEAKS.
UM, YOU SAID THAT SOME ADJUSTMENTS COULD BE MADE WITH A STRAIGHT BG ZONING.
SPECIFICALLY WHAT ADJUSTMENTS WOULD A STRAIGHT BG ZONING SUPPORT THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSING? 390 UNITS AND BG LIMITS? NINE, UH, 300.
SO THAT WOULD BE AT LEAST ONE SLIGHT MODIFICATION.
ANY OTHERS? MR. HILL, CAN YOU HELP? YEAH,
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THE OTHER ISSUE IS THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE BUILDING.THERE'S A REQUIRED PODIUM CONSTRUCTION FOR FIVE STORY, UH, BUILDINGS IN THE BG DISTRICT AND THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTING TO, UM, NOT PROVIDE THAT TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION.
WOULD THE BG DISTRICT SUPPORT THE, UM, THE OUTDOOR, UH, UH, AMUSEMENT COMMERCIAL? NO.
THEY, THEY DO NEED ZONING FOR THE OUTDOOR COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT USE AS WELL.
NO, THEY, THEY DO NEED ZONING FOR THE OUTDOOR COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT AS WELL.
THE STAFF'S MAJOR ISSUES WOULD BE THE NUMBER OF UNITS, THE COMMITMENT TO BUILD THE NON-RESIDENTIAL, UM, AND THE HORIZONTAL PODIUM.
IS THAT CORRECT? THE HORIZONTAL PODIUM, THERE'S A FOURTH ISSUE WITH THE, THE LAYOUT OF THE STREET THAT THE LAYOUT THAT'S PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT IS NOT WHAT WAS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY.
OH, YOU MEAN IT HAS TO, THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THE STREET BE OPPOSITE THE THE STREET AS IT CONTINUES ACROSS 13TH STREET? THAT'S CORRECT.
TO CONNECT WITH M AVENUE, YES.
MR. BRONSKI, UH, I HAVE ONE QUESTION ON, UM, PAGE NINE OF YOUR REPORT WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT, UH, BLOCK PATTERN AND STREET SCAPE.
YOU MENTIONED THAT IT MEETS, BUT THEN ON PAGE 16, UH, YOU GO INTO DETAIL TALKING ABOUT THAT, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CITY.
UH, ALTHOUGH THE CURRENT DESIGN IS FUNCTIONAL, IT'S NOT IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE CITY'S RECOMMENDATION.
UH, SHOULD THAT HAVE BEEN, IS THAT STILL MEETS FOR THE BLOCK PATTERN? IT DOES NOT MEET, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MR. HILL.
YEAH, I'M TRYING TO FIND THE SPECIFIC PAGE NINE REFERENCES.
PAGE NINE, UNDER WHICH HEADING? UH, I HAVE FUTURE LAND USE, UH, DESIRABLE CHARACTER DEFINING ELEMENTS, BLOCK PATTERN AND STREET SCAPE MEETS.
SO THERE'S, UM, I THINK THERE'S A POLICY RECOMMENDATION IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ABOUT THE, UH, GENERAL LAYOUT OF BLOCKS AND STREET PATTERN IN THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT AND IT MEETS THAT RECOMMENDATION OF A POLICY.
AND THEN LET ME LOOK AT THE OTHER REFERENCE THAT YOU'RE DISCUSSING, WHICH IS ON PAGE 16, I BELIEVE YOU SAID YES, UNDER THE INTERNAL STREET.
THE INTERNAL STREET ALIGNMENT SHIFTED EAST INITIALLY THE STREET WAS ALIGNED.
THAT'S WHY I WAS CURIOUS IF IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN.
THERE'S A POLICY RECOMMENDATION IN THE CONFERENCE, A PLAN, BUT THEN THERE'S ALSO A RECOMMENDED LAYOUT PER THE DESIGN OF THE STREET.
SO THOSE WERE TWO DIFFERENT ANALYSES.
THEY DID MEET THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN RECOMMENDATION, BUT THE TRANSPORTATION RECOMMENDATION, UH, WAS NOT, WAS SUPPORTED BY STAFF.
YEAH, THAT I, I JUST NEEDED SOME CLARITY ON THAT.
I ALREADY TOOK CARE OF ONE OF MINE.
UM, I, ONE QUICK QUESTION REGARDING TIMING.
UM, AND THERE'S A DESCRIPTION SAYING THIS PROPERTY IS RIPE FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT, UNIQUELY SITUATED BETWEEN STREETS AND AGENCY TO THE DART, UM, CHARLES THREE ZERO LINE STATION.
SO WHAT'S THE TIMING ON THE DART SILVER LINE STATION AND THE SILVER LINE OPERATION? DO YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATE ON THOSE PROJECTS TO BE DONE? SURE.
I'M ACTUALLY GONNA ASK MS. PALATE IF SHE HAS, UM, AN IDEA OF WHEN THE SILVER LINE MAY BE OPEN.
UM, CURRENTLY, UM, TWO OF THESE STATIONS ARE, UM, THE, THE PLANS ARE, UM, APPROVED AND, UM, THE CONSTRUCTION PERMITS WILL BE RELEASED.
AND THEN, UM, THERE IS ANOTHER STATION THAT STAFF IS WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT.
UM, THE PLAN IS TO HAVE THAT LINE OPERATIONAL BY THE END OF 2025, OPERATIONAL BY THE END OF 2025.
MR. IFFS, AND JUST ONE QUESTION ON IF IT WAS, IF, IF WE DID BG STRAIGHT ZONING, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS ALREADY ANSWERED, THE RECREATE THE, THE, UM, GAME LAWN OR WHATEVER WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED USE, BUT WOULD THAT ALSO OPEN UP A LOT TO, TO OTHER USES THAT ARE USED BY RIGHT AND BG? ABSOLUTELY.
SIMILAR LAND USES COULD BE A HEALTH AND FITNESS CENTER.
WE ALLOW TENNIS, RACQUETBALL, HANDBALL ALSO, UM, IN AMUSE, UM, INDOOR COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT ALLOWS FOR BINGO BOWLING AND A SKATING RINK.
SO NOT TOTALLY PICKLEBALL, BUT AT LEAST SOME SORT OF ENTERTAINMENT
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ACT ACTIVITY WHERE THERE COULD BE A FEE FOR FOOD AND BEVERAGE AND, UM, A SPORTING ACTIVITY.I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, WITHOUT THE BEAD, WITHOUT THE PD, IF IT WENT STRAIGHT ZONING, THEY COULD ALSO COME BACK AND BUILD MORE APARTMENTS THERE, COULDN'T THEY? THEY COULD, BUT, UM, AS MR. HILL NOTED, THERE ARE LIMITATIONS AS FAR AS UNITS BLOCK LENGTH, UM, PODIUM PARKING, SO THEY WOULD BE MAXED OUT AT THIS PROPERTY AT 300 UNITS.
EVEN IF IT'S TWO SEPARATE LOTS, IT'S TWO SEPARATE LOTS.
I THINK THEY COULD BUILD MORE IF IT'S SUBDIVIDED BY A STREET, THEY COULD HAVE, UH, INDIVIDUAL MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS ON EACH BLOCK.
NOW, I DO WANT TO NOTE, YOU KNOW, STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF OF THE OUTDOOR COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT PROPOSAL.
HOWEVER, THERE'S JUST NO FIRM COMMITMENT TO THAT IN THEIR STANDARDS.
THEY WOULD NEED A PD OR S U P TO ACCOMPLISH THAT.
SO IF, IF A COMMITMENT WAS OFFERED AND ASSOCIATED WITH THIS REQUEST, WE'D BE SUPPORTIVE OF IT AS WE SEE IT.
THE, THE ASK IS REALLY FOR A LARGE MULTI-FAMILY BUILDING AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO OUTDOOR, COMMERCIAL MIS AMUSEMENT, BUT NOT THE COMMITMENT TO DO IT.
I WAS JUST TRYING TO EVALUATE THE PROS AND CONS OF STRAIGHT ZONING VERSUS PD, IS WHAT I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALL? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I'M ASSUMING THE APPLICANT HAS A PRESENTATION FOR US.
UH, THEN IF I CAN HAVE, UH, MATT CARTER, SEAN LUTHER, AND WILLIAM CRAVENS, TAKE A SEAT, UH, BEHIND THE PODIUM.
MY NAME IS PIERCE CRAVENS AND MY WIFE AND I RESIDE AT 20, UH, 10 28 17TH STREET IN DOWNTOWN PLANO.
I'M ALSO THE GENERAL PARTNER OF 2022 PLANO LUNA, THE APPLICANT AND PROPERTY OWNER FOR THIS EVENING'S PRESENTATION.
WE SUPPORT AND SEEK TO LEVERAGE THE CITY'S GOALS TO PROMOTE WALKABLE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE TRANSIT ORIENTED IN NATURE, GIVEN THE CITY'S INVESTITURE IN THE SILVER LINE STATION ON 12TH STREET, WHICH AS YOU KNOW, IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
NOW, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE TEAM A LITTLE BIT.
UM, METROPOLITAN INTEREST CORPORATION IS OUR FAMILY'S REAL ESTATE COMPANY THAT HAS BEEN DEVELOPING AND INVESTING IN PLANO FOR MORE THAN 50 YEARS.
WE'VE DEVELOPED OVER 3000 SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION, LOTS, LARGE SCALE OFFICE PROJECTS, AND SEVERAL INDUSTRIAL PARKS AND APARTMENT COMPLEXES IN PLANO.
20 YEARS AGO, WE BECAME INTERESTED IN INVESTING AND DEVELOPING IN DOWNTOWN, SPECIFICALLY AFTER WE ACQUIRED THE BUILDING THAT EVENTUALLY BECAME THE FILLMORE PUB, WE CONTINUED TO ACQUIRE BUILDINGS AND PROPERTIES IN DOWNTOWN THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.
AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SILVER LINE HAS FURTHER ENCOURAGED OUR INVESTMENT APPETITE.
WE RECENTLY COMPLETED AT 15TH STREET, WHICH IS A 52 UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX ON 15TH AND MUNICIPAL AND A BOUTIQUE TOWN HOME COMMUNITY ON 17TH BETWEEN J AND K AVENUE.
WE'RE CURRENTLY CONSTRUCTING ANOTHER PROJECT ON 10TH STREET AS WELL.
SUFFICE TO SAY, WE'VE BEEN LONG-TERM LOCAL OWNERS IN DOWNTOWN PLANO AND WE HAVE NO INTEREST IN HAVING IT ANY OTHER WAY.
WE PURCHASED THE SUBJECT SITE LAST AUGUST, AND AFTER A LONG VETTING PROCESS, WE WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO BRING THESE TWO PARTNERS THAT ARE WITH US THIS EVENING TO THE TABLE WHO ARE READY TO GO WITH US THIS EVENING IS SEAN LUTHER, WHO WILL DESCRIBE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, HINZ CORPORATION.
MY NAME IS SEAN LUTHER AND I'M HERE TODAY REPRESENTING HINES, THE DEVELOPER FOR THE PROJECT.
UM, SOME QUICK BACKGROUND ON WHO WE ARE.
HINES WAS FOUNDED IN 1957 AND IS ONE OF THE LARGEST PRIVATELY OWNED REAL ESTATE FIRMS IN THE WORLD.
UH, WE WERE FOUNDED IN HOUSTON BY THE LATE GERALD HINES WHO STARTED DEVELOPING INDUSTRIAL AND OFFICE EXCLUSIVELY IN HOUSTON.
AND SINCE THEN WE'VE GROWN TO BE IN 32 COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD TOUCHING ALL PRODUCT TYPES.
SO HERE IN THE METROPLEX, UM, WE ARE INVOLVED IN OVER 20 ACTIVE PROJECTS RANGING IN ALL PRODUCT TYPES FROM INDUSTRIAL SELF STORAGE, MASTER PLAN COMMUNITIES, OFFICE MULTIFAMILY AND MIXED USE.
WE'RE EXCITED TO BE HERE PRESENTING ON THIS PROJECT AND TO BE PARTNERING WITH THESE FOLKS.
UM, WHAT REALLY GOT US EXCITED ABOUT THIS SITE WERE, WERE TWO THINGS.
THE FACT THAT IT'S LOCATED IN DOWNTOWN PLANO AND THE WALKABLE, VIBRANT ENVIRONMENT THAT THAT IS.
WE ALWAYS LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO DEVELOP IN PLACES THAT HAVE AN ELEMENT OF HISTORY AND, AND A TRUE COOL FACTOR, WHICH WE THINK DOWNTOWN DOES.
UM, AND SECONDLY, WE ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE INVOLVEMENT OF THE BOLDEN ACRES FOLKS AND THE FACT THAT THEY ARE HERE AS AN OWNER, UM, LOOKING TO TO BE A LONG-TERM OWNER, NOT JUST A TENANT.
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I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MATT WITH BOLD ACRES WHO WILL INTRODUCE HIMSELF.UM, WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME UP TO PLANO.
UH, WE OPENED OUR FIRST BOLD ACRES ONE MONTH BEFORE THE PANDEMIC HIT, AND, UH, WE WERE LUCKY ENOUGH TO SURVIVE THAT DOWNTIME, UM, AND IT KIND OF MOLDED OUR PROJECT INTO WHAT IT'S BECOME TODAY.
UM, I HAD MY FIRST CHILD RIGHT BEFORE OR RIGHT AFTER WE OPENED, UH, RIGHT BEFORE WE SHUT DOWN.
AND I KIND OF SAW THIS AS A HUGE OUTDOOR SPACE WHERE WE COULD BRING FAMILIES TOGETHER, YOUNG PROFESSIONALS, UM, PEOPLE THAT WANTED TO WATCH SPORTS AND KIND OF PUT THIS WHOLE THING TOGETHER.
AND WERE LUCKY THAT IT MORPHED INTO WHAT IT DID.
UH, WE CATERED TO THE COMMUNITY MORE THAN ANYTHING, UM, BECAUSE I LIVE IN THAT COMMUNITY AND THAT'S HOW WE WERE ABLE TO DO.
UH, WE WORK WITH ALL THE LOCAL SCHOOLS, UM, DOING FUNDRAISERS.
WE ALSO, UH, HOST FUNDRAISERS AS WELL FOR POLITICAL CANDIDATES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
UM, KIND OF ON OUR OWN, NOT SO MUCH SUPPORTING OR NOT, UH, BUT IT'S JUST A BIG PLACE WHERE EVERYONE KIND OF COMES TOGETHER.
UM, I CAN'T REALLY DESCRIBE IT OTHER THAN A COMMUNITY.
UH, WE INSTILL THAT IN OUR STAFF QUALITY, FOOD QUALITY, BEVERAGE QUALITY SERVICE, UM, ABOVE ALL.
AND IN DOING SO, WE KIND OF BRING EVERYONE TOGETHER IN DOING SO.
UM, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE LOOKING TO BUY THE PROPERTY, NOT JUST LEASE THE PROPERTY.
UM, WE, WE DESIGNED THE ORIGINAL ONE BASED ON A HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD IN AUSTIN CALLED BOLDON CREEK, WHICH IS WHERE THE NAME CAME FROM.
AND THIS IS THE EXACT MARKET THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO COME INTO.
UM, STRONG COMMUNITY VALUES, VERY WALKABLE, UH, BIKE PATH NEARBY.
THE MAJORITY OF OUR CLIENTELE, UH, WALKS 'CAUSE THEY LIKE TO BRING THEIR DOGS OR THEY PUSH A STROLLER WITH THEIR KIDS.
UM, BOTH ARE NOT THAT EASY TO DRIVE
WE HAVE HUGE BIKE PARKING AREAS.
UH, WE'LL BE RIGHT ON THAT NEW HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL.
UH, WE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE SILVER LINE BEING RIGHT NEARBY.
UM, AND SO YEAH, THAT'S BASICALLY IT.
WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT
HOPEFULLY ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS,
SO OUR VISION AS MATT AND SEAN WERE SAYING IS TO CREATE A SOUTHERN GATEWAY TO DOWNTOWN THROUGH QUALITY DESIGN BASED ON TRANSIT ORIENTED PRINCIPLES.
WE SEEK TO COMBINE A HOUSING AND DESTINATION RESTAURANT AND LEISURE USE, WHICH I AS A DOWNTOWN RESIDENT FEEL IS LACKING.
WE'RE TRYING TO FULFILL THE CITY'S VISION TO PROVIDE A DEVELOPMENT THAT PROMOTES WALKABILITY AND CONNECTS THE REST OF DOWNTOWN WITH THE 12TH STREET STATION.
AND WE SEEK TO PARTNER WITH PLANOS ARTISTS TO PROVIDE MURALS WITHIN OUR SITE THAT GIVE A NOD TO DOWNTOWN'S HISTORY.
NOW THE CITY HAS DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB WITH RESPECT TO CURATING EVENTS AND MAKING DOWNTOWN A DESTINATION.
HOWEVER, OUTSIDE OF THESE EVENTS, THERE ARE FEW ACTIVITIES AND BUSINESSES THAT KEEP PEOPLE HERE FOR LONGER THAN A MEAL OR A QUICK TRIP TO A SHOP, WHEREAS BOLDEN ACRES AND PICKLEBALL MORE BROADLY HAS A MARKET RADIUS THAT EXTENDS 20 MILES.
IT'S FAMILY FRIENDLY COMMERCIAL USE THAT YOU CAN SPEND THE ENTIRE DAY.
UM, AND A LOT OF BUSINESS OWNERS HERE TELL ME THAT THEY NEED MORE PEOPLE IN DOWNTOWN TO SUPPORT THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE CURRENTLY HERE.
AND I THINK IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT SUPPORTS THAT FACT IS THE VACANT RETAIL THAT'S ALONG 14TH STREET.
THIS IS A CATALYST DEVELOPMENT IN OUR OPINION THAT THIS AREA NEEDS TO THRIVE AND SPUR ADDITIONAL INVESTMENT AND PATRONAGE IN ADJACENT PROPERTIES AND BUSINESSES.
AS STAFF MENTIONED, OUR SITE IS LOCATED DIRECTLY ACROSS THE SILVER LINE STATION.
WE PARALLEL THE DART TRACK TO THE SOUTH 13TH STREET, TO THE NORTH MANIS MUNICIPAL AVENUE TO THE WEST, AND AN AVENUE TO THE EAST.
SORRY, I'M HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF DIFFICULTY GETTING THIS TO ADVANCE PLANE O T V.
SO THERE'S THE SITE AND IF I COULD, UH, ASK YOU TO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
SO WHY THIS SITE IN 2022, THE AECOM STUDY THAT THE CITY COMMISSION DETAILED PROPERTIES THAT ARE WERE, WERE OF HIGH REDEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL AROUND THE 12TH STREET AND SHILOH STREET STATIONS.
IN THAT STUDY, ONLY ONE PROPERTY HAD A GOLD STAR WITH THE DESCRIPTOR OF A CATALYST SITE.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS THE LARGEST SITE IN THE AREA.
ITS LOCATION IS FANTASTIC IN TERMS OF ITS PROXIMITY AND ACCESSIBILITY AND LARGE PARCELS ARE VERY DIFFICULT TO AGGREGATE DOWNTOWN.
FOR EXAMPLE, THIS ONE TOOK NEARLY THREE YEARS TO PUT TOGETHER.
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SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, WE FEEL IT'LL STIMULATE FURTHER INVESTMENT AND AGGREGATION IN THE PROPERTY.THE CURRENT USE OF THE PROPERTY IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE ENVISION.
THE CURRENT USE ENCOMPASSES HEAVY COMMERCIAL AND BUILDING MATERIAL STORAGE.
WE HAVE A MULTITUDE OF SHORT AND MIDTERM TENANTS AND IT'S PRESENTLY IN A BLIGHTED STATE AS YOU CAN SEE, DESPITE ITS APPEARANCE.
HOWEVER, AND BEING UNDERUTILIZED, IT IS AN ECONOMICALLY PERFORMING PROPERTY, BUT WE FEEL IT DOES NOTHING TO COMPLEMENT THE DART STATION OR DOWNTOWN.
AND FURTHER OTHER USES THAT ARE ALLOWABLE BY RIGHT WITH OUR CURRENT ZONING SUCH AS MULTI WAREHOUSE, LIKEWISE DO NOTHING TO COMPLIMENT DOWNTOWN WITH ITS INDUSTRIAL ZONING, WE FEEL THAT IT'S A USE THAT HAS OUTLIVED ITS LOCATION.
IF WE COULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
SO THE SITE PLAN IS THOUGHTFULLY DESIGNED TO PROVIDE A DESTINATION RESTAURANT EXPERIENCE FOR PLANO RESIDENTS, WHILE ALSO CREATING A HIGH QUALITY HOUSING OPTION TO MEET THE ONGOING DEMANDS OF A GROWING DOWNTOWN.
GIVEN OUR PROXIMITY TO THE DART LINE IN THE FUTURE 12TH STREET STATION, WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME THINKING ABOUT HOW TO ORIENT THIS SITE IN ORDER TO FULFILL THE CITY'S VISION FOR THIS AS A GATEWAY AND A CATALYST SITE.
SO THE EAST PORTION OF THE SITE, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE PLAN, WILL INCLUDE ROUGHLY TWO AND A HALF ACRES DEDICATED TO THE NEW PICKLEBALL RESTAURANT CONCEPT THAT YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT TONIGHT, INCLUDING THE PRESERVATION OF THE EXISTING 22,000 SQUARE FOOT WAREHOUSE, WHICH WAS HISTORICALLY USED AS AN AGRICULTURAL PROCESSING FACILITY.
THE OLD WAREHOUSE WILL HOUSE SIX INDOOR PICKLEBALL COURTS IN ADDITION TO A NEWLY CONSTRUCTED 6,000 SQUARE FOOT RESTAURANT WHERE GOLDEN ACRES WILL SERVE FOOD AND DRINKS.
AN OUTDOOR GAME LAWN BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS WILL BE UTILIZED FOR LEISURE, VARIOUS GAMES AND ACTIVITIES.
MOVING TO THE WEST PORTION OF THE SITE, WE DESIGNED A MULTIFAMILY PROJECT WITH AN ADJACENT STRUCTURED PARKING GARAGE.
AND THERE'S A COUPLE KEY ITEMS THAT I WANNA POINT OUT FOR EVERYONE.
SO NUMBER ONE, THE GARAGE IS ORIENTED PARALLEL TO THE DART TRACK.
THIS IS DONE VERY INTENTIONALLY TO MINIMIZE THE EXPOSURE OF THE RAIL LINE AND ENHANCE THE EXPERIENCE FOR THE RESIDENTS.
THE LEASING OFFICE, THE AMENITIES AND THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO THE MULTI-FAMILY ARE ON THE BOTTOM LEFT OF THAT PLAN IF YOU'RE VIEWING IT.
AND THEY'RE ORIENTED SOUTH ON MUNICIPAL, WHICH IS DONE TO MINIMIZE THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT FACE THE DART TRACK, WHILE ALSO PROVIDING THE QUICKEST AND THE MOST CONVENIENT ROUTE FOR DART RIDERS TO GET TO AND FROM THEIR RESIDENCES.
THE PROJECT WILL ALSO INCLUDE A WIDE RANGE OF UNIT SIZES FROM APPROXIMATELY 500 SQUARE FEET TO AROUND 1300 SQUARE FEET.
THIS IS DONE INTENTIONALLY TO APPEAL TO A WIDER RANGE OF INCOME LEVELS AND AGE LEVELS.
WE ALSO DESIGNED FLEX UNITS AT THE GROUND LEVEL OF ALL PERIMETER FACING UNITS ON MUNICIPAL AND 13TH STREET, WHICH ALLOWS FOR AN ACTIVATED STREET SCAPE AND THE POTENTIAL FOR FUTURE COMMERCIAL SPACE AT THE GROUND LEVEL SHOULD IT BE DEMANDED.
FINALLY, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE SPACE BETWEEN THE USES, WE WANTED TO DESIGN A VERY PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY CURBLESS WALKABLE STREET THAT WOULD PROMOTE PEDESTRIAN USE AND INVITE PEOPLE FROM THE DART STATION TO MOVE FREELY THROUGH THE SITE.
SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS DESIGNED A CURBLESS STREET, UM, VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU'D SEE AT EASTSIDE VILLAGE, ONE OR TWO.
AND WE THINK THAT THIS CREATES A NICE ENVIRONMENT THAT IS POROUS AND INVITES PEOPLE, LIKE I SAID, TO MOVE THROUGH THE SITE, UM, AND IS VERY PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY.
SO ALL THESE THINGS WERE DONE, UM, TO CREATE A SITE THAT WE THINK WILL BE VERY ATTRACTIVE FOR THE RESIDENTS OF PLANO AND FROM ABROAD.
SO ON THIS SLIDE HERE, WE'VE GOT SOME IMAGERY FROM EXISTING LOCATIONS OF GOLDEN ACRES.
AS YOU CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC FACING ART IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THEIR CONCEPT.
WE BELIEVE THAT'S IMPORTANT TO THE CITY OF, OF PLANO, AND TO DOWNTOWN SPECIFICALLY.
UM, OUR GOAL REALLY IS TO HAVE THIS SITE SEAMLESSLY BLEND IN WITH DOWNTOWN, RIGHT? WE'RE INTENDING TO PUT A PRODUCT ON THE GROUND THAT THAT BLENDS WITH THE DOWNTOWN CHARACTER THAT HAS NODES TO HISTORY THAT'S HEAVILY, UM, INCORPORATED WITH BRICK AND, AND REALLY FITS WITHIN THE CONTEXT AND THE CHARACTER OF DOWNTOWN.
SIR, YOU HAVE TWO AND A HALF MINUTES LEFT OF PRESENTATION TIME.
SO MOVING ON HERE, THESE ARE, WE PRODUCED TWO RENDERINGS, UM, WITH THE ARCHITECT TEAM THAT WE HAVE ON BOARD.
SO REALLY QUICKLY I'LL TOUCH ON THESE.
SO THE FIRST RENDERING IS AN IMAGE AT DUSK.
THIS IS FROM THE PEDESTRIAN SCALE VIEWER IS LOOKING SOUTH ON 13TH STREET INTO BOULDER ACRES.
YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING WAREHOUSE BUILDING ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THIS FRAME, THE NEW RESTAURANT RIGHT IN THE FRONT, AND THEN THE MULTIFAMILY BUILDING.
UM, JUST BEHIND IT ON THE TOP RIGHT.
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AS YOU CAN SEE, WE FOCUSED ON DEVELOPING A VERY PEOPLE FOCUSED PROJECT, AND THAT ALL STARTS AT THE GROUND PLANE AND HOW WE THOUGHT ABOUT THE GROUND PLANE, WE WANT IT TO BE FAMILY FRIENDLY, PET FRIENDLY, BE A PLACE WHERE THE RESIDENTS OF PLANO CAN SPEND MULTIPLE HOURS AND LINGER, LIKE PIERCE SA ALLUDED TO.UM, THE SECOND RENDERING HERE IS A DAYTIME SHOT.
SO NOW YOU'RE LOOKING NORTH ON MUNICIPAL.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS REALLY FOCUSES ON THIS PROJECT BEING TRANSIT ORIENTED.
YOU HAVE THE DART LINE PASSING ON THE RIGHT SIDE.
UM, YOU HAVE THE HIKE AND BIKE TRAILS AT THE BOTTOM RIGHT OF THE IMAGE, WHICH WILL GO SOUTH, UM, ACROSS THE DART LINE AND THEN CUT UP THROUGH MUNICIPAL.
WE WANNA BE VERY INTEGRATED WITH THAT.
YOU ALSO HAVE A DOG PARK, UM, AT THE FOREGROUND OF THIS IMAGE, WHICH IS ON THE BOTTOM LEFT OF THE SITE PLAN.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO THINK ABOUT HOW TO INTEGRATE WITH THE HIKE AND BIKE TRAILS, HOW TO MAKE THIS A, A TRANSIT-ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT THAT THAT CAN REALLY ACT AS A CATALYST, UM, FOR THE CITY OF PLANO AND FOR DOWNTOWN.
REALLY QUICK ON COMMUNITY OUTREACH.
PIERCE, DO YOU WANNA TOUCH ON THAT? YEAH, SURE.
UM, WE, WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO, UH, STAKEHOLDERS, BUSINESSES, PROPERTY OWNERS, HOAS IN THE SURROUNDING AREA AND HAVE RECEIVED OVERWHELMING SUPPORT.
UH, WE'VE BEEN ENGAGED WITH THE 12TH STREET STATION AREA STUDY, THE SILVER LINE CHARETTE, UM, ATTENDED A REGULAR H D P A MEETINGS, WHICH AGAIN, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE HEAT MAP, HAS GARNERED SIGNIFICANT SUPPORT.
IN SUMMARY, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH IS NOT JUST ANOTHER APARTMENT COMPLEX AND COMMERCIAL USE, BUT RATHER A DESTINATION USE TO SERVE AS A CATALYST FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO SPUR GREATER DEVELOPMENT.
WE THINK THIS IS A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTRACT PEOPLE FROM A BROADER MARKET RADIUS WHO SUPPORT NOT CANNIBALIZE BUSINESSES THAT ARE CURRENTLY OPERATING.
AND IT'S MY HOPE AND BELIEF THAT PEOPLE WHO VISIT BOLD AND ACRES WILL VISIT OTHER NEIGHBORING VIS BUSINESSES AND DISCOVER WHAT A GREAT PLACE DOWNTOWN PLANO IS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
WE HAVE A LONG LIST OF SPEAKERS, RIGHT? YES, WE DO.
ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE GONNA WORK OUR WAY THROUGH THE SPEAKERS AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO, UM, THE APPLICANT.
WE HAVE QUESTIONS IF I CAN HAVE, UH, WILLIAM CRAVENS WAS AN APPLICANT, BUT HE, IF YOU WOULD LIKE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK, SKIP WHILE HE MAKES HIS WAY TO THE PODIUM.
LETS SKIP IF WE, I THINK IF IT'S ALREADY APPLICANTS, WE'VE KIND OF USED THEIR TIME, SO, OKAY.
I WOULD SAY LET'S LOOK FOR PEOPLE WHO AREN'T APPLICANTS TO SPEAK.
UH, NEXT WILL BE NATHAN T WHILE HE COMES TO THE PODIUM.
I NEED DAVID BRYANT, JACKIE HENA, AND KENNETH HYATT TO SIT BEHIND THE PODIUM.
I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GOT NATHAN T BUT IT'S NATHAN SHEA.
UM, RESIDENCE IS 31 0 6 DUBLIN ROAD.
UM, MY PLANO BUSINESS IS 1104 14TH STREET.
I OWN AND OPERATE MULTIPLE BUSINESSES IN DOWNTOWN PLANO.
UM, ALL THE URBAN FAMILY CONCEPTS ARE MINE.
UM, WE FINALLY MOVED OVER TO 14TH STREET, UH, ABOUT 12 YEARS AGO AND THEN OPENED UP URBAN SEAFOOD, UH, ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO.
OUR GOAL IS TO EXPAND THE DOWNTOWN AREA FROM 15TH TO 14TH, ALL THE WAY TO WHERE THEY'RE PUTTING THEIR DEVELOPMENT.
I'VE KNOWN THE CRSS FOR, GOSH, SINCE, UH, WE OPENED UP URBAN CRUST AND THEY OPENED UP FILLMORE PUB.
UM, THEY ARE THE KIND OF BUSINESS BUSINESS PEOPLE THAT WE WANT IN, IN DOWNTOWN.
WE NEED THIS DENSITY IN DOWNTOWN.
THE ONLY WAY THAT DOWNTOWN IS GONNA GROW AND PROSPER IS TO BRING MORE PEOPLE TO THE AREA.
I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF TECHNICAL STUFF INVOLVED HERE, BUT I WILL SAY THAT DOWNTOWN NEEDS A WALKABLE AREA WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME THRIVE.
BUSINESSES CAN THRIVE, WHETHER IT'S RESTAURANTS, RETAIL, OUTDOOR AREA.
THIS THING IS GOING TO START 12TH STREET CAN MOVE ALL THE WAY UP TO 14TH STREET AND EXPAND THE ENTIRE DOWNTOWN AREA.
AND I THINK THAT IS WHAT THE CITY WANTS.
AND I HOPE YOU GUYS WILL APPROVE THIS FOR THESE GUYS.
THEY PUT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT INTO MAKING THIS HAPPEN.
I'M, UH, DAVID BRYANT WITH 1418 COFFEE HOUSE IN DOWNTOWN PLANO.
BEEN THERE FOR 10 YEARS AND, UH, I COULDN'T BE MORE EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT FOR VARIETY OF REASONS.
THE WORD I HEAR WHEN PIERCE CALLED ME AND BEGAN TO TELL ME WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO IS, NUMBER ONE, PEOPLE, PEOPLE, MORE PEOPLE COME INTO OUR AREA ALONG WITH THE SILVER LINE, HAVING ANOTHER DESTINATION THAT PEOPLE WILL COME IN FROM OTHER AREAS AND HAVE REASON TO COME INTO A VERY UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY THAT I HEARD FAMILY.
WE DON'T HEAR A LOT OF THAT IN DOWNTOWN PLANO.
THIS WILL BRING MORE A, A DIVERSITY INTO OUR COMMUNITY, UH, THAT ONLY HELPS US GROW.
UH, AS, AS NATHAN SHARED, AS, AS THE TOWN, AS THE DOWNTOWN AREA HAS BEGAN TO
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EXPAND, IT'S BEEN A BOON FOR ALL OF US IN DOWNTOWN.AND WE'VE SEEN THE, THE WORK ON 14TH STREET THROUGH THE URBAN GROUP GROUP.
OUR MY BUSINESS HAS GROWN EVERY YEAR SINCE BECAUSE THE MORE PEOPLE ARE COMING IN.
SO OF COURSE WE HEAR MORE EXPANSION, MORE, UH, MORE OF A DISTRICT NOW IN DOWNTOWN THAT GOES EVEN FURTHER.
THAT JUST BRINGS US MORE PEOPLE.
SO, UH, THERE'S ONLY ONE HISTORIC DOWNTOWN.
WE CAN HAVE ALL KINDS OF GREAT, UH, DEVELOPMENTS AROUND OUR CITY, BUT THERE'S ONLY ONE HISTORIC DOWNTOWN AND WE WANT PEOPLE TO COME THERE.
THE SILVER LINE GIVES THAT GREAT OPPORTUNITY, UH, AGAIN, THE CRAVEN FAMILY, WHAT THEY, THEIR COMMITMENT TO DOWNTOWN.
IT'S, IT'S UNPRECEDENTED THAT THESE GUYS WANT TO BE IN DOWNTOWN.
THEY WANNA SEE IT GROW AND BE A PART OF THAT.
SO WE, WE COULDN'T BE MORE EXCITED THAN WE THINK THESE GUYS FOR BRINGING OUR WAY.
AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING YOU GUYS APPROVE THIS AND SEEING US GO FORWARD.
WELL, JACKIE HENA COMES TO THE PODIUM.
I NEED KENNETH HYATT AND COR COREY REKER TO COME DOWN.
I AM A NEWER BUSINESS OWNER AT DOWNTOWN PLANO.
I OWN COCOA BEACH ON 15TH AND K I DO OWN A BUSINESS IN RICHARDSON, AND SO I'VE WORKED ON CROSS-PROMOTING TO BRING PEOPLE DOWNTOWN.
THE ONE THING I HAVE TO SAY THAT PEOPLE WILL COME DOWNTOWN AND GO, IT'S A HIDDEN GYM.
WELL, IT SHOULDN'T BE A HIDDEN GYM.
AS WE GROW IT, WE'LL BRING, OUR RESTAURANT WILL GROW, UH, WITH THE OTHER RESTAURANTS.
I HEARD A LOT ABOUT PICKLEBALL.
UM, MY GENERATION IS A GENERATION THAT'S GOING TOWARDS PICKLEBALL.
UM, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PLAYING TENNIS AREN'T ANYMORE.
UM, I HAVE A 14 TO NINE YEARS OLD, AND THAT'S ALL THEY WANNA PLAY NOW.
SO I THINK AS WE BRING IN NEW FAMILIES DOWNTOWN, THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER THAT THAT IS A NEW UPCOMING GROWING SPORT.
UM, I APPRECIATE THE, THE TIME THAT THEY'VE GIVEN.
THEY'RE COMPLETELY FAMILY ORIENTED WHERE I THINK THE HISTORIC DOWNTOWN CAN GROW FROM THAT.
UH, NEXT WE HAVE KENNETH HYATT.
HI, I AM KEN HYATT AND I'VE, I'VE HAD A SHOP IN DOWNTOWN PLANO FOR A LITTLE OVER 20 YEARS NOW, AND I'M ALSO A PLAINTIFF RESIDENT.
I, I APPRECIATED THE FACT THAT THE CRAVENS, UH, INVITED PEOPLE UP TO, TO LISTEN TO THEIR PLANS.
I WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH, WITH THE THOROUGHNESS OF THE PLANS.
AND IT FEELS LIKE IT IS VERY MUCH IN LINE WITH THE DIRECTION THAT THE PLAINTIFF WANTS TO GO.
UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT IN THIS AREA IT'S, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE, UH, WALKABLE TRAFFIC.
AND THIS SEEMS LIKE THIS IS, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY MUCH IN LINE WITH, WITH WHAT I'M TOLD THE CITY OF PLANO IS, IS LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVE.
SO I'M, I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THIS PLAN.
DO WE HAVE SOMEONE ON ZOOM? WE DO.
UH, HI, MY NAME'S COREY REKER.
I'M A 13 YEAR RESIDENT OF PLANO AND A 11 YEAR HOMEOWNER IN DOWNTOWN PLANO.
I'M AN ON THE EXECUTIVE BOARD OF, UH, THE OLD TOWN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
UM, ALTHOUGH I SPEAK FOR MY, ON MY BEHALF, MY OWN BEHALF THIS EVENING.
UM, AND WHEN I SEE THIS PRESENTATION AND, AND WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING TO BRING TO THIS AREA AND THIS SPECIFIC SITE.
UM, AND, AND I'M ALSO AN ARCHITECT.
UM, THIS IS A SORT OF DENSITY THAT WE NEED TO MAKE THE DOWNTOWN AREA WORK.
THIS IS SORT OF ACTIVE USES THAT WE NEED AND IT'S JUST LOOKS LIKE A VERY HIGH QUALITY PROJECT AND I'D BE HAPPY TO SEE IT APPROVED.
AND FINALLY, ONLINE WE HAVE SUZANNE RICKETTS.
IS SHE THERE? I'LL WAIT FOR HER TO POP UP.
WE NEED YOU TO, UH, SHOW YOUR CAMERA.
HELLO, I'M SUZANNE RICKETTS AND I LIVE, UH, IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD JUST SOUTH OF THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
AND I AM, UH, REPRESENTING SOME OF THE RESIDENT NEIGHBORS HERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, CURRENTLY WE, WE DISCUSS AMONG OURSELVES AND, UM, WE ARE IN A SMALL AREA THAT'S, UH, IT'S GROWING QUITE A BIT AROUND US.
WE'VE GOT, UH, TALL WALLS TO OUR LEASE AND TALL WALLS TO OUR WEST, AND PRETTY SOON WE'LL HAVE MORE ABOUT ON THE SOUTH AND THIS ON THE NORTH, ALONG WITH THE TRACKS OF THE STOLEN DART LINE AND, AND
UM, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE WONDERED HAVE BEEN CONSIDERED
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OR EVEN CAN BE CONSIDERED, UM, ARE THE INCREASING TRAFFIC IN THIS AREA AND THE NOISE FROM THE, THE DART STATION.IS IT POSSIBLE THAT, UM, THE, THE NOISE OF THE TRAIN ITSELF COULD BE REVERBERATING OFF OF THE WALLS OF THE HIGH BUILDING TO THE NORTH AND COMING BACK AT US? UM, I GUESS THOSE WERE PRETTY MUCH OUR CONCERNS.
INCREASED NOISE AND TRAFFIC IN THE AREA.
IS THAT THE LAST OF OUR SPEAKERS? THAT IS THE LAST OF THE SPEAKERS.
AT THIS TIME THEN I WOULD ASK THE COMMISSION IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT AND WE GOT TWO THREE OF 'EM.
SO, UM, WE'LL START WITH COMMISSIONER RATLIFF.
UM, I, I THINK IT MIGHT BE WORTH ASKING IF YOUR QUESTION IS FOR THE OWNER OR FOR HINES THE DEVELOPER OR FOR THE OUTDOOR AMUSEMENT.
SO YOU MIGHT LET 'EM KNOW SO THEY KNOW, WHICH, UM, THANK YOU CHAIRMAN.
UM, YEAH, MY FIRST QUESTION IS FOR SEAN WITH HINES, SEAN, RIGHT? YES, SIR.
UM, TALK TO ME ABOUT FLEX UNITS.
WHAT, GIVE US YOUR DEFINITION OF FLEX UNITS, WOULD YOU PLEASE? SURE.
SO THE FLEX UNITS WILL BE LOCATED ON THE FIRST FLOOR, ON THE EXTERIOR PERIMETER FACING UNITS.
AND ESSENTIALLY WHAT THOSE ARE, ARE UNITS THAT ARE DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE A POTENTIAL COMMERCIAL USE.
SO THOSE COULD BE UNITS WHERE AN INDIVIDUAL LIVES AND ALSO RUNS A BUSINESS OUT OF.
SO, YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT, YOU MIGHT ENVISION THINGS LIKE AN ART GALLERY OR A PRIVATE OFFICE OR, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL, YOU KNOW, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, THINGS LIKE THAT.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT REAR LOADING, SO IT'D BE DIFFICULT TO DO SOMETHING LIKE A RESTAURANT IN ONE OF THOSE UNITS.
BUT WHERE WE'VE SEEN THEM BE SUCCESSFUL ARE SOME OF THOSE KIND OF SERVICE-BASED USES.
UM, OR GALLERIES MAKER SPACES.
YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT FIND SOMEONE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, RUNS A BUSINESS LIKE THAT, THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY NEEDING LIKE HEAVY LOADING AND UNLOADING, BUT UH, NEEDS A STOREFRONT AND KIND OF HAVING THAT STREET PRESENCE IS IMPORTANT TO THEM.
SO EXPLAIN TO ME, SO AS YOU START TO BUILD IT OUT, ARE YOU GONNA MARKET THEM AS RESIDENTIAL? YOU'RE GONNA MARKET THEM AS OFFICE? HOW IS THAT, I REALIZE IT'S A FLEX SPACE, BUT, UM, HOW DOES THAT, HOW DOES THAT WORK? SURE, SO THEY WOULD BE MARKETED AS TYPICAL UNITS, BUT THEY WOULD ALSO BE ON TOURS.
YOU KNOW, THE, THE INDIVIDUAL WOULD BE INFORMED THAT THEY COULD RUN A BUSINESS OUT OF IT.
UM, THEY COULD HAVE POTENTIALLY STOREFRONT SIGNAGE, LIKE ON THE DOORS, UM, AND WINDOWS POTENTIALLY.
SO THE IDEA IS WE'D LIKE TO MAKE THAT THAT STREET SCAPE FEEL ACTIVATED SO IT'S NOT JUST A, A LOCKED DOOR AND A GATE.
YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT HAS A POTENTIALLY AN AWNING AND HAS A FEEL OF, UM, OF COMMERCIAL.
AND IF THERE'S A DEMAND FOR IT, IT WILL LEASE AS SO.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THIS QUESTION IS FOR YOU OR FOR PIERCE.
IS THERE A REASON THAT THERE'S NOT SOMETHING IN THE PD ABOUT FLEX SPACE? 'CAUSE I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN THE PD LANGUAGE.
WE, WE ACTUALLY, UH, WE INITIALLY HAD IT IN THE PD TO BEGIN WITH, UH, AND I BELIEVE THE LAST ITERATION OF, UH, SOME RED LINES FROM THE CITY HAD US REMOVE IT.
WE'RE HAPPY TO PUT THAT BACK IN AS IT IS OUR INTENTION.
UM, SO QUESTION FOR MATT FROM GOLDEN ACRES.
ACRES, AND I'M SORRY, MATT, I DIDN'T CATCH YOUR LAST NAME.
UM, WHAT, WHAT IS YOUR PLAN TIMING WISE? UM, HOW QUICKLY, HOW SOON ARE YOU COMING TO PLANO, TEXAS? UH, AS SOON AS WE NEED TO, OR AS SOON AS WE CAN.
I MEAN, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF INVESTORS THAT, LIKE, AS I MENTIONED, DESPITE COVID GOT THEIR MONEY RETURNED AND ARE EAGER TO INVEST AND MORE SO, UM, FINANCIALLY WE'RE READY TO ROLL.
UH, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF PLANNING AND APPROVAL.
SO IS YOUR, IS, ARE YOU COUNTING ON THE APARTMENTS TO BE OPEN TO FEED YOUR BUSINESS OR IS YOURS GONNA BE KIND OF STANDALONE DRAWING FROM THE 20 MILE RADIUS BEFORE EVEN THE APARTMENTS ARE OPEN? 390 APARTMENTS WOULDN'T, UH, SERVICE WHAT WE LIKE TO DO.
SO, UM, THEY'RE DEFINITELY PART OF THE BUSINESS PLAN, BUT NOT THE BULK OF IT.
ULTIMATELY, WE'D LOVE TO GET OPEN WAY BEFORE THE APARTMENTS IF POSSIBLE AND START DRAWING IN THE AREA AND THEN BECOME AN AMENITY FOR THE APARTMENTS.
SO THEN FOLLOW UP QUESTION FOR STAFF IS, DID WE, WAS THERE ANY, IS THERE A REASON WE SHOULDN'T
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HAVE THAT IN THE PD? IT IT'S ALREADY ALLOWED FOR IN, IN THE BUILDINGS.IT'S ACTUALLY IN THE, THE PG DISTRICT CURRENTLY.
SO FLEX SPACE IS, IS IT'S USED BY RIGHT IN THE BASE ZONING? CORRECT.
AND IT'S, IT'S SIMILAR TO THE TYPE OF FLEX SPACE THAT YOU SEE, UH, IN EASTSIDE VILLAGE ONE AND TWO, UH, ALSO IN THE BEL AIR.
UH, AND AS, AS SEAN INDICATED, AS DEMAND CALLS FOR IT, THEY CAN BE ALLOCATED, THEY CAN BE ALLOCATED TOWARD A MORE COMMERCIAL USE.
THERE AGAIN, AS DEMAND, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE WERE ALLOWING FOR IT IF IT'S IN THE BASE ZONING ALLOWED BY RIGHT.
THAT, THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION.
SO IT DOESN'T, WE DON'T NEED IT IN THE PD, I GUESS IS THE BOTTOM LINE.
WELL, I, IT, IT, I GUESS IT'S MORE A QUESTION OF INTENTION.
THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER PAUL, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT OR ADDITION TO THE CITY TO REDEVELOP SOME OF THE, UM, UNDERUSED, UM, CURRENTLY, UH, ZONE THE PROPERTIES.
AGAIN, I THINK MY CONCERN IS ABOUT TIMING AND I THINK THIS PROJECT'S HEAVILY RELYING ON THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT AND, AND THE OPERATION TIMING OF THE, UM, THE RAIL AND THE STATION.
AND, UH, THIS WILL BE PROBABLY THE, THE FIRST BIG DEVELOPMENT AROUND THE AREA OR REDEVELOPMENT AROUND THE RAIL STATION.
SO WHAT'S YOUR PLAN IF, UH, I KNOW YOU'RE, YOU PROPOSING TO START CONSTRUCTION EARLY 2025 AND BASED ON OUR STAFF'S REPORT THAT THE STATION PROBABLY WILL BE IN OPERATION, UH, END OF 2025.
WHAT IF THE STATION DOES NOT COMPLETE OR DOES NOT OPERATE AND YOUR, UH, BUILDING IS READY TO DELIVER? UM, WHAT'S YOUR PLAN FOR, FOR PEOPLE WHERE, WHAT, WHERE WOULD YOU EXPECT PEOPLE TO COME FROM IF THE LINE, THE SILVER LINE IS NOT OPERATIONING? WELL, I GUESS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD SAY TO THAT IS, UH, THIS WOULD NOT BE THE FIRST MAJOR PROJECT AROUND THE DART STATION TO BEGIN WITH.
THE FIRST WAS THE PHARAOH PROJECT, WHICH WAS 379 UNITS.
UH, AND IT WAS A REDEVELOPMENT OF PLANO MARINE THAT WAS, UH, LOCATED ON THE SOUTHEAST SIDE, SOUTHWEST SIDE OF THE TRACK, CATTY-CORNERED TO OUR SITE.
SO IT'S, IT'S THE TOLL BROTHERS PROJECT.
UM, THE, THE DOVETAILING OF, AND SEAN CAN PROBABLY SPEAK TO THIS AS WELL, BUT THE DOVETAILING OF THE DART SCHEDULE IS A NICE TO HAVE, NOT NECESSARILY A NEED TO HAVE TO MAKE THIS PROJECT VIABLE FURTHER GIVEN THE MARKET RADIUS, UM, THAT MATT SEES WITH HIS BUSINESS THERE.
AGAIN, IT'S A NICE TO HAVE, NOT A NEED TO HAVE WITH RESPECT TO SCHEDULING AND THE DART STATION, BUT I THINK WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE AS THAT STATION COMES ONLINE THAT NOT ONLY WILL PEOPLE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE STATION OR RATHER THE SILVER LINE TO TRAVEL FROM PERHAPS U T D, UH, TO COME VISIT MATT'S BUSINESS OR RATHER USE IT AS TRANSPORTATION FROM THEIR DWELLING UNIT TO CLASS OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
UM, I, I THINK IT BECOMES ADDITIVE AND NOT A NECESSARY ELEMENT TO THE OVERALL OPERATION AND SUCCESS OF THIS PROJECT.
UM, ANOTHER WHICH I THINK I DO HAVE ANOTHER, WHICH I THINK IS THE WHOLE, UH, POINT OF HAVING SOMETHING THAT IS WALKABLE AND COMPLIMENTARY TO DART, BUT ALSO TO THE CITY OF DOWNTOWN.
WELL, I DO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION REGARDING THE ENVIRONMENT.
'CAUSE SURROUNDING THIS PROPERTY, THERE'S STILL A LOT OF, UM, OLDER PROPERTIES AND THEY HAVE NOT BEEN REZONED AND, UH, SOME INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES THEY HAVE, THEY MAY OR MAY NOT BE REDEVELOPED FOR A LONG TIME OR THERE'S JUST UNKNOWN, RIGHT? SO WHAT WOULD YOU, UM, PROPOSE TO, UM, YOUR FUTURE, I GUESS, TENANTS OR, UH, PROSPECTS TO COME TO YOUR SITE WHEN THE SURROUNDING AREAS ARE IN TOTALLY DIFFERENT, I GUESS, VIBE FROM THIS PROPERTY? I THINK THIS BRINGS US BACK TO, UH, THE NOTION OF A CATALYST SITE THAT WAS DETAILED ON THE AECOM STUDY, WHICH IS WHY THIS SITE HAS THE GOLD STAR.
BECAUSE WHAT IT WILL DO IS IT WILL ENCOURAGE AGGREGATION OF SOME OF THE OTHER PROPERTIES ADJACENT TO THIS SITE AND ENCOURAGE REDEVELOPMENT.
FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN I WAS, WHEN I, WHEN I BUILT, UH, A TOWN HOME PROJECT ON 17TH STREET, WHICH I JUST DELIVERED, UH, ABOUT THREE MONTHS AGO, UM, IT WAS INTERESTING TO SEE THE NEIGHBORHOOD EFFECTS OF THAT PROJECT
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AND OF THAT INVESTMENT.ALL OF A SUDDEN PEOPLE WERE OUTSIDE OF THEIR OWN HOMES REPAINTING THEIR FACADE.
AND THIS IS THE SIMILAR TYPE OF CATALYST EFFECT THAT I THINK THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE WITH A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT THAT HINES AND BOLD ACRES WILL POUR INTO THE CITY OF PLANO.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS A REASONABLE QUESTION.
LET'S JUST, AS WE'RE THINKING THROUGH OUR QUESTIONS THOUGH, FOR THE APPLICANT IN PARTICULAR, LET'S MAKE SURE WE'RE, WE'RE FOCUSED A LITTLE LESS ON OPERATIONS AND MORE ON LAND USE AND HOW THIS, UH, SEQUENCING IS A, IS A GOOD EXAMPLE MR. BRUNO OR NOT.
UM, I NEED A LITTLE CLARIFICATION FROM THE STAFF TO HELP ME TO FOCUS MY QUESTION TO THE APPLICANT.
UM, THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, IF A PD IS CONSIDERED, YOU WERE ASKING THE APPLICANT TO MAKE A COMMITMENT TO PHASING WITH AT LEAST 22,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT IN THE FIRST PHASE.
IS THAT RIGHT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
ALSO, UM, I'M NOT IN THE CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS, SO COULD YOU PLEASE EDUCATE ME IN LAYMAN'S LANGUAGE, WHAT IS A HORIZONTAL PODIUM AND WHAT IS ITS PURPOSE? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
UM, THE, THE GOAL FOR THAT REQUIREMENT IN THE DISTRICT WAS TO ENCOURAGE NON-RESIDENTIAL SPACE ON THE FIRST FLOOR TO, TO CREATE ACTIVITY AT THAT LEVEL.
AND SO THE DESIGN REQUIREMENT IN, IN THE DISTRICT, IT ALLOWS FOR FIVE STORIES OF THE BUILDING.
FOUR STORIES OF MULTI-FAMILY WOULD BE OVER A FIRST FLOOR, WHICH WOULD BE EITHER PARKING, FLEX SPACE UNITS, UM, OR CONCRETE STRUCTURE.
RIGHT? IT SAYS CONCRETE STRUCTURE, BUT REALLY THE GOAL IS THE DESIGN OF THE FIRST FLOOR THAT IT REALLY ENGAGED THE STREET.
IT ACTUALLY HAS A MINIMUM FLOOR HEIGHT OF, OF NINE FEET.
SO IT'S EXTERIOR ENTRANCE REQUIREMENTS.
SO IF YOU LOOK IN AREAS THAT REALLY ENGAGE THE STREET FRONTAGE, IT HAS, UH, ENTRANCES LIKE THE APPLICANT WAS REFERRING TO, UM, ACCOMMODATION FOR WHERE YOU CAN EASILY SEE, HEY, THESE COULD BE COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL SPACES AND, UM, SOMETHING THAT JUST PROVIDES MORE ACTIVITY AT THE STREET LEVEL RATHER THAN JUST SOLELY RESIDENTIAL USE.
WELL, THEY'VE ALREADY COMMITTED TO THE FLEX SPACE.
WOULD THAT SATISFY THE HORIZONTAL PODIUM REQUIREMENT? IT DOES, IT DOES NOT, NO.
WHAT ADDITIONAL COMMITMENT WOULD YOU NEED TO SATISFY THAT, THAT THAT IS A SPECIFIC REQUIREMENT OF THE ZONING DISTRICT? SEE, I THOUGHT IT WAS SOMETHING STRUCTURAL LIKE A CERTAIN TYPE OF FOUNDATION.
IT'S, IT'S A STRUCTURAL, IT'S A STRUCTURAL SITUATION.
THE LANGUAGE ACTUALLY SAYS CONCRETE THAT WAS, UM, THAT MATERIALS NOW EXEMPTED BY THE STATE REQUIREMENTS.
HOWEVER, THE PODIUM IS STILL IN PLACE AND THE DESIGN FEATURES SUCH AS ENTRANCES, UH, MINIMUM HEIGHTS, THINGS LIKE THAT, THOSE ARE THE ELEMENTS THAT WOULD CREATE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
NOW, APPLICANT, UM, EITHER MR. HINZ OR MR. CRAVENS WHO AFRICAN BEST ANSWER THE QUESTION WOULD BE FINE.
UM, THE STAFF HAS A CONCERN AND HAS RECOMMENDED THAT, UH, BG STRAIGHT ZONING COULD ACCOMMODATE ALMOST EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.
UH, WHAT'S WRONG WITH GOING FOR STRAIGHT BG ZONING? WELL, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS IS THAT THE OUTDOOR COMMERCIAL USE IS NOT APPLICABLE WITHIN A STRAIGHT BG ZONING AS I UNDERSTAND IT AND WOULD REQUIRE SOME SORT OF A WAIVER, BUT I BELIEVE FRANK TURNER CAN SPEAK TO MORE AUTHORITY ON WHY WE REQUESTED A PD.
VERY BRIEFLY, COMMISSIONER, MY NAME IS FRANK TURNER WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT ON THE PROJECT.
UH, THERE'S SEVERAL REASONS FOR THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DESIGNATION.
UH, MANY OF THE STIPULATIONS ARE SIMPLY ASSURANCES TO THE CITY ON THE DESIGN OF THE PROJECT.
THEY'RE NOT ENTITLEMENT PROVISIONS.
RATHER, THEY ARE, UH, ASSURANCES THAT THE BUILDING WILL BE CONSTRUCTED IN CERTAIN WAYS.
UH, HOWEVER, UH, FOR OUTDOOR COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT, IT DOES NEED TO BE INCLUDED IN A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
IT IS NOT MENTIONED, UH, EITHER AS A USE BY RIGHT OR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT WITHIN THE BG DISTRICT.
UH, THAT'S ONE REASON NUMBER TWO.
UH, WE ARE ASKING FOR 390 UNITS UNDER THE BG DISTRICT.
THE CAP IS 300 UNITS PER BLOCK, NOT TOTAL.
YOU COULD DIVIDE THIS PROPERTY INTO TWO BLOCKS AND HAVE 600 UNITS UNDER BG.
PRESUMING THAT THAT MET ALL THE OTHER, UH, DEFINITIONS.
UM, UM, BUT THOSE ARE AMONG THOSE.
THIS STAFF HAS IDENTIFIED FOUR CONCERNS, AND I'D LIKE YOU TO
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SPEAK TO EACH ONE STARTING WITH 300 UNITS INSTEAD OF 390.WHY NOT 300? WELL, AS TO THE ECONOMICS, I'LL LET THE DEVELOPER SPEAK TO THAT.
BUT THERE ARE OTHER PROJECTS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA THAT EXCEED 300.
BUT I'LL JUST TOUCH BRIEFLY ON THAT.
SO THE PROJECT, IN ORDER TO BE ECONOMICALLY VIABLE, NEEDS A HIGHER DENSITY THAN 300 UNITS.
WE WOULD NOT JUST GO AND PROPOSE THAT IF WE DIDN'T THINK THE DEMAND WAS THERE.
SO THE POPULATION GROWTH IN DOWNTOWN PLANO, SPECIFICALLY WITHIN A TWO MILE RADIUS OF THIS SITE, HAS BEEN SIGNIFICANT OVER 20% IN THE LAST 10 YEARS.
AND WE SEE THAT THAT TREND IS POISED TO CONTINUE.
THERE'S PROJECTED TO BE OVER 1700 ADDITIONAL PEOPLE IN, IN A TWO MILE RADIUS IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
UM, IF YOU LOOK AT ALL OF THE APARTMENTS CURRENTLY IN THE DOWNTOWN PLANO SUBMARKET, UM, THEY'RE ALL OVER 93% OCCUPIED TODAY.
THE MOST RECENT ONE THAT DELIVERED WAS THE TOLL BROTHERS DEAL, UH, WHICH LEASED UP IN LESS THAN 18 MONTHS, DOING OVER 20 LEASES A MONTH.
UM, THE DENSITY I THINK IS NEEDED AS, AS YOU'VE HEARD FROM SOME OF THE, THE SPEAKERS AND SUPPORT.
SO, UM, WE BELIEVE THAT THE 390 UNITS IS NECESSARY IN ORDER TO BE VIABLE.
AND WE THINK IT'S, UM, IT IS BACKED BY THE DEMAND THAT WE'RE SEEING.
AND I WILL SAY THAT, THAT THERE IS PRECEDENCE IN THAT, UM, RECENT, UH, PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED EXCEED 300 AS FRANK WAS DETAILING, I THINK SOMEWHERE IN THE NATURE OF 370 TO, UH, 390 UNITS.
UM, ARE YOU WILLING TO COMMIT TO A, A HORIZONTAL PODIUM CONSTRUCTION