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I NOW DECLARE THAT THE PLAINTIFF CITY COUNCILS CAN RECONVENED IN OPEN SESSION THAT ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.
MAYOR PRO TEM CASEY PRINCE WILL BE ON ZOOM.
WE'LL BEGIN TONIGHT'S REGULAR MEETING WITH THE INVOCATION LED BY PASTOR SAM ROY, MOUNT OLIVE CHURCH OF PLANO AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE IN TEXAS.
WOULD YOU PLEASE RISE? LET US PRAY.
FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR GOODNESS AND FOR YOUR KINDNESS.
WE THANK YOU TO DIRECT THIS MEETING TONIGHT.
WE THANK YOU FOR THE SERVICE THAT YOU'VE CALLED TO GOVERN THIS GREAT CITY.
WE PRAY GOD, THAT THEY WOULD BE YOUR INSTRUMENTS TO BE USED, THAT YOU MIGHT BE GLORIFIED IN THE THINGS THEY DO.
AND FOR THAT WE HONOR YOU AND WE GIVE YOU PRAISE IN JESUS' NAME.
PLEASE JOIN US IN RECITING THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, FOLLOWED BY THE TEXAS PLEDGE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL, HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD.
[Proclamation: September is National Preparedness Month.]
EVERYONE.WE HAVE A COUPLE OF PRESENTATIONS AND SOME PROCLAMATIONS TO READ.
UM, THIS MORNING, UH, AT THE FIRE STATION, NUMBER ONE, UH, WE REMEMBERED THOSE WHO LOST THEIR LIVES, SACRIFICED THEIR LIVES ON SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2001.
AND WE READ A PROCLAMATION IN THAT REGARD.
WE DO THIS, WE'VE DONE IT EVERY YEAR, UH, SINCE 2001.
AND SO I THOUGHT I'D READ YOU A COUPLE OF LINES THAT, UH, THAT WAS IN THE PROCLAMATION.
WHEREAS ON SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2023, WE'LL MARK THE 22ND ANNIVERSARY OF THE DEADLY ATTACKS ON THE WORLD TRADE CENTER IN NEW YORK CITY, THE PENTAGON, AND IN WASHINGTON DC AND THE CRASH OF A PLANE IN PENNSYLVANIA WHERE PASSENGERS HEROICALLY OVERTOOK HIJACKERS.
AND WHEREAS WE GATHER EACH YEAR TO REFLECT ON THE UNFATHOMABLE LOSS WE EXPERIENCED AS A NATION WITH THE DEATHS OF 343 NEW YORK FIREFIGHTERS, 23 POLICE OFFICERS, 37 PORT AUTHORITY OFFICERS, AND NEARLY 3000 PEOPLE AS A RE RESULT OF THESE TERRORISTIC ATTACKS.
AND WHEREAS WE LOOK TO THE FUTURE OF THE CITY OF PLANO, IT STANDS VIGILANT IN OUR COMMITMENT TO MAINTAINING A SAFE CITY AND PROVIDING OUR FIRST RESPONDERS WITH THE RESOURCES THEY NEED SO THEY CAN CONTINUE TO DO THEIR JOBS COMMENDED.
SO IT WAS A VERY SOLEMN, UH, PRESENTATION THIS MORNING WITH OUR FIREFIGHTERS AND POLICE OFFICERS THERE.
BUT I WANTED EVERYBODY TO KNOW THIS WAS, UH, UH, A REMEMBRANCE OF THOSE THAT LOST THEIR LIVES.
SO, UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LETTING ME READ THAT.
I'D NOW LIKE TO CALL FORWARD CARRIE, LITTLE DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
AND CARRIE, WE ARE GOING TO CELEBRATE SEPTEMBER PREPAREDNESS MONTH, SEPTEMBER, 2023.
WHEREAS NATIONAL PREPAREDNESS MONTH CREATES AN IMPORTANT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PLANO COMMUNITY TO FOCUS ON PREPARING
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HOMES, BUSINESSES, CHURCHES, SCHOOLS, INSTITUTIONS WITH AN ALL HAZARD APPROACH FOR ANY INCIDENT OR EVENT.NATURAL OR HUMAN CAUSED EMERGENCIES COME IN MANY FORMS AND CAN STRIKE ANYWHERE IN AMERICA.
AND WHEN THEY HAPPEN, OUR NATION MUST ENSURE THAT COMMUNITIES HAVE THE SUPPORT AND RESOURCES THEY NEED TO RESPOND AND RECOVER.
AND WHEREAS ALL PLANO RESIDENTS ARE ENCOURAGED TO PARTICIPATE IN MANY CITIZEN PREPAREDNESS ACTIVITIES AND TO REVIEW THE MANY INFORMATIVE WEB WEBSITES OR THE PREPARED IN PLANO SOCIAL MEDIA FEEDS TO BECOME BETTER INFORMED ON PREPAREDNESS TOPICS.
AND WHEREAS THE LOSS OF LIFE AND PROPERTY CAN BE GREATLY REDUCED IF APPROPRIATE PLANNING IS INSTITUTED BEFORE, DURING, AND AFTER DISASTER.
SO NOW, THEREFORE, I, JOHN MUNZ, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PLANO DO HEREBY PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER, 2023 IS NATIONAL PREPAREDNESS MONTH IN PLANO.
AND I DO THEREBY ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO JOIN ME AND THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL AND RECOGNIZING THE IMPORTANCE OF PREPAREDNESS AND WORKING TOGETHER TO ENHANCE OUR RESILIENCE AND READINESS IN THE CITY OF EXCELLENCE.
I JUST, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PROGRAM AND FOR HELPING US TO PREPARE OUR COMMUNITY.
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Proclamation: September 21 - 24, 2023, is the H-E-B l Central Market Plano Balloon Festival.
]IT'S REALLY OUR PLEASURE TO READ A PROCLAMATION ABOUT ONE OF THE BIGGEST EVENTS, IF NOT THE BIGGEST EVENTS THAT WE HAVE IN PLANO EACH YEAR.
THIS IS THE H E B CENTRAL MARKET, PLANO BLOOM FESTIVAL.
AND I'D LIKE TO CALL FORWARD JOVI.
WHERE'D YOU GO? OH, YOU'RE RIGHT THERE.
THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE H E B, I'M GONNA HAVE TO SAY IT EVERY TIME, AREN'T I? CENTRAL MARKET PLANO BALLOON FESTIVAL.
AND I'D LIKE TO ALSO INVITE ANY, UH, BALLOON FESTIVAL BOARD MEMBERS IF YOU'RE HERE.
SO THIS IS SUCH AN EXCITING EVENT FOR US, AND IT JUST HAS GROWN AND GROWN AND GROWN EVERY SINGLE YEAR.
SO WHEREAS IN 1979, JIM AND HAVERLY MARSHALL MOVED TO PLANO AND SET UP THE BALLOON ACADEMY OF TEXAS.
A LOVE FOR HOT AIR BALLOONS INSPIRED HIM TO OFFER BALLOON RIDES TO THOSE ATTENDING THE CITY'S 4TH OF JULY CELEBRATION.
AND THIS SIMPLE ACT LED TO THE LAUNCH OF THE ANNUAL BALLOON FESTIVAL.
AND WHEREAS OVER THE FOUR DECADES, THE THE LOVE OF HOT AIR BALLOONS HAS GROWN EXPONENTIALLY IN PLANO, CITIZENS OF ALL AGES AND VISITORS ALIKE CONTINUE TO BE MESMERIZED BY THE MANY BEAUTIFUL HOT AIR BALLOONS DOTTING THE PLANO SKIES.
EACH FALL DURING THE BALLOON FESTIVAL, THIS SIGNATURE EVENT HAS ATTRACTED HUNDREDS AND THOUSANDS OF VISITORS TO PLANO.
AND WHEREAS THIS YEAR'S KICKOFF EVENT STARTS ON THURSDAY EVENING, THE 21ST, FIRST, IT'S NOT ON HERE.
SO I HAD TO WITH A SPECIAL OUTDOOR CONCERT PERFORMANCE BY THE PLANO SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA LED BY MAESTRO HECTOR GUZMAN.
NOW, THEREFORE, I, JOHN BEMANS, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PLANO DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THURSDAY EPT SEPTEMBER 21ST THROUGH SUNDAY, SEPT, SEPTEMBER 24TH.
2023 IS THE H E B CENTRAL MARKET PLANO BALLOON FESTIVAL DAYS AND PLANO, AND I DO THEREBY ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO JOIN ME IN THE PLAINTIFF CITY COUNCIL IN INVITING EVERYONE TO COME TO THE BALLOON CAPITAL OF TEXAS FOR THIS WONDERFUL EVENT.
WELL, JUST LIKE ALWAYS, WE HAVE REALLY BIG PLANS, SO BE SURE THAT YOU MARK THIS ON YOUR CALENDAR.
LIKE MAYOR MU SAID, SEPTEMBER 21ST THROUGH THE 24TH, WE'LL HAVE BALLOONS.
WE'LL HAVE SOMETHING NEW THIS YEAR HIGH IN THE TEXAS SKY DRONE SHOW ON FRIDAY NIGHT AND SATURDAY NIGHT.
THAT'S A FIRST FOR US, UH, DUE TO SOME DROUGHT CONDITIONS WE'RE EXPERIENCING NO FIREWORKS, BUT DRONES.
SO WE'RE EXCITED TO SHOWCASE THAT THIS YEAR AND WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOU ALL THERE.
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YOU'RE WELCOME.OUR LAST PRESENTATION IS THE PLANOS CITIZENS ACADEMY, AND WE'RE HONORING THEM FOR THE 2022
[Presentation: Plano Citizens Academy is honoring the 2022-2023 graduates.]
2023 GRADUATES.SO I'D LIKE TO CALL FORWARD SHAUNA HALEY, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH, AND CHRIS PUGA ACADEMY GRADUATE, WHO I'D LIKE TO ASK ALL THE GRADUATES TO COME FORWARD AND ANY CLASSES OVER OUR RESIDENT THE OPPORTUNITY, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN, UH, ABOUT OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND, UM, AND ALL THE THINGS THAT GO ON IN THE CITY OF PLANO.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO CONGRATULATE ALL OF YOU FOR BEING A PART OF THIS PROGRAM.
WE JUST THINK IT'S GREAT AND, UH, CONGRATULATIONS.
TELL US ABOUT, ALRIGHT, LET'S, YES, LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET EVERYONE SQUEEZED DOWN HERE.
WE'LL, WE'LL GET BALANCED OUT.
UM, CITIZENS ACADEMY IS A 12 MONTH PROGRAM.
THE FOLKS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT HAVE BEEN IN CLASS ONCE A MONTH SINCE LAST OCTOBER, LEARNING ALL OF THE INS AND OUTS OF HOW OUR CITY GOVERNMENT WORKS FROM CITY MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET TO TODAY.
WE LEARNED ABOUT WAYS THAT WE CAN VOLUNTEER AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN.
THIS IS A FANTASTIC WAY TO GET KIND OF A FOUNDATIONAL UNDERSTANDING OF THE INS AND OUTS OF WHAT IT TAKES TO SERVE AS THE CITY, SERVE OUR RESIDENTS, AND SERVE OUR COMMUNITY.
AND I KNOW THAT THEY'RE ALL VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE NEXT STEPS OF INVOLVEMENT.
AND SO TONIGHT WE'RE REALLY THRILLED TO HAVE ONE OF OUR CLASS MEMBERS SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT HE'S LEARNED.
THANK YOU SHAUNA, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY.
IT HAS BEEN A TREMENDOUS PRIVILEGE TO BE PART OF THIS PLANO CITIZENS ACADEMY COHORT AND HAVE THE HONOR TO REFLECT ON MY EXPERIENCE ALONG THE WAY.
I MOVED TO PLANO WITH MY WIFE AND STEPSON IN APRIL OF LAST YEAR.
BECAUSE OF THE VAST PROGRAMS AND INITIATIVES THE CITY HAD TO OFFER TO INCLUDE THIS ACADEMY, I WAS OVERJOYED TO LEARN THAT I WAS ACCEPTED INTO THIS PROGRAM JUST BEFORE LEAVING OUTTA STATE TO CONDUCT TRAINING WITH MY ARMY RESERVE UNIT AND THE ALWAYS BRISK AND THE DELIGHTFUL WEATHER OF THE MOJAVE DESERT.
THE ACADEMY TAUGHT ME MORE THAN I COULD EVER IMAGINE THE CITY HAD TO OFFER, INCLUDING OUR SPEEDY 9 1 1 DISPATCH SERVICES AND ALL THE INDIVIDUALS ON THE BACK END TO GET THOSE CRITICAL SERVICES TO OUR NEIGHBORS IN A SWIFT AND PROFESSIONAL MANNER.
I WOULD SAY ONE OF THE MOST IMPACTFUL SITE VISITS FOR ME PERSONALLY WAS THROUGH THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT, WHERE I LEARNED AND THEN ENROLLED TO BECOME A MEMBER OF PLANOS COMMUNITY EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAM, WHERE CER, WHERE I'VE BEEN TRAINED TO ASSIST OUR CITY'S FIRST RESPONDERS IN CASE OF A LOCAL NATURAL DISASTER OR TIME OF CRISIS.
THE MEMORIES AND LESSONS I HAVE LEARNED DURING THIS PAST YEAR HAVE TRULY MOTIVATED ME TO BE FURTHER INVOLVED WITH MY COMMUNITY, INCLUDING ENROLLING TO BECOME A REPRESENTATIVE OF TWO CITY COMMISSIONS.
AFTER VISITING THE LATEST EVENT AT THE PLANO EVENT CENTER JUST LAST MONTH, I COULD NEVER HAVE ASKED FOR A MORE ACCOMMODATING AND FRIENDLY ACADEMY COORDINATOR, WHICH SHAUNA HAS BEEN FOR ME AND THE REST OF OUR COHORT.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR A, FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK ABOUT MY TIME WITH THE 10TH EVER PLANO CITIZENS ACADEMY AND ENCOURAGE ANYONE WHO HAS NOT YET GONE THROUGH THE PROGRAM TO DO SO.
NOT JUST FOR THE FREE GOODIES THAT A PERSON GETS BY ATTENDING EACH MEETING, BUT TO EXPERIENCE FIRSTHAND WHAT ELSE OUR GREAT CITY OF PLANO, TEXAS HAS TO OFFER AND WHAT YOU AS A PROUD CITIZEN CAN GIVE BACK TO YOUR GREATER COMMUNITY.
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COMMENTS OF PUBLIC[COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST]
INTEREST.THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING IS TO ALLOW THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER WITH 30 TOTAL MINUTES ON ITEMS OF INTEREST OR CONCERN AND NOT ON ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE CURRENT AGENDA.
THE COUNCIL MAY NOT DISCUSS THESE ITEMS, BUT MAY RESPOND WITH FACTUAL OR POLICY INFORMATION.
THE COUNCIL MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA.
AND JUST AS A REMINDER, PLEASE DO NOT TOUCH OR YELL TO THE MICROPHONE AS YOU APPROACH THE PODIUM.
AND WE DO HAVE TWO SPEAKERS THIS EVENING.
BEFORE WE BEGIN, LET ME, UH, JUST, UH, REMIND EVERYBODY THE RULES OF CONDUCT.
SO THE RESIDENTS HAVE THE RIGHT TO CRITICIZE POLICIES, PROCEDURES, PROGRAMS, AND SERVICES.
BUT SPEAKERS MUST STICK TO THE TIME LIMITS AND STAY ON TOPIC, BE RESPECTFUL AND COURTEOUS TO COUNCIL STAFF, OTHER SPEAKERS, AND THOSE IN ATTENDANCE AT THE MEETING.
BEHAVIOR THAT FAILS TO YIELD THE FLOOR WHEN THE SPEAKER'S TIME IS CONCLUDED IS NOT RELEVANT TO THE AGENDA ITEM OR CITY BUSINESS REPEATEDLY INTERRUPTS A COUNCIL MEMBER.
DISTURBS THE ORDER OF THE MEETING INVOLVES LOUD, THREATENING, HOSTILE, ABUSIVE, VULGAR AND OBSCENE LANGUAGE, AND INTENDS TO BREAK UP THE COUNCIL MEETING WITH PROLONGED LOUD YELLING OR CLAPPING IS PROHIBITED WHEN YOU SIGNED, UH, A FORM TO SPEAK.
THIS WAS ACTUALLY ON THAT SAME FORM, SO THANK YOU.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCILMAN, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
I'M PROUD PLANO RESIDENT AND HAVE THE PRIVILEGE TO SERVE AS THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER FOR THE NONPROFIT NORTH TEXAS PERFORMING ARTS.
I'M JOINED HERE TONIGHT BY THE FOUNDER OF THE PLANO CHILDREN'S THEATER, SARAH AKERS, AND A WAGON FULL OF PEANUT BUTTER FOR YOUR, FOR THE NORTH TEXAS FOOD DRIVE THAT WE WANNA CONTRIBUTE TO THE CAUSE WITH YOUR SUPPORT.
THE NORTH TEXAS PERFORMING ARTS BROUGHT OVER 300,000 VISITORS TO PLANO BASED STAGES AND HIS HOME OF THE LARGEST YOUTH THEATER ORGANIZATION IN THE COUNTRY, ENABLING OVER 11,000 CHILDREN TO TAKE THE STAGE IN PERFORMING ARTS CLASSES, CAMPS, AND SHOWS NEXT YEAR IN OVER 220, UH, PRODUCTIONS, AND OVER 1600 PERFORMANCES ON A DOZEN STAGES IN MOVIE THEATERS.
OUR NONPROFIT, OUR NON PLANO OPERATIONS, POSITIVELY CONTRIBUTE TO HELP UNDERWRITE PLANO BASED OVERHEAD.
AND EIGHT OUT OF 10 OF OUR THEATER TROOPS PERFORM IN PLANO, BRINGING IN CROWDS FROM DALLAS FRISCO AND BEYOND TO PLANO VENUES.
FIRST, I AM PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE OUR 13TH ANNUAL CHRISTMAS TRADITION OF SCROOGE, THE MUSICAL PERFORMING EXCLUSIVELY ON PLANO STAGES AND IN THE A HUNDRED HUNDRED AND 12TH PERFORMANCE.
WE'LL BE JOINED THIS YEAR BY THE EXCEPTIONAL TALENT OF COUNCILMAN SHELBY WILLIAMS, FEATURING HIS PROLIFIC VOCAL AND DANCING PROWESS, INCLUDING A FEATURED DUET IN THIS YEAR'S PRODUCTION.
CONGRATULATIONS AND BREAK A LEG.
A FEW YEARS AGO, WE CREATED THE NORTH TEXAS STARDUST AWARDS TO RECOGNIZE INCREDIBLE PERFORMING ARTS LEADERS AND VOLUNTEERS IN OUR REGION.
LAST YEAR WE HONORED ARTS LEADERS FROM ACROSS THE REGION, INCLUDING THE PLANO SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA, THE PLANO COMMUNITY BAND AREA, P I S D SCHOOL TEACHERS, AND MORE.
AMONG THIS YEAR'S HONOREES INCLUDE LEADERS IN THE PLANO INTERNATIONAL FESTIVAL, THE PLANO CIVIC CHORUS, PLANO CHILDREN'S CHORUS, AND OTHER ARTS LEADERS ACROSS NORTH TEXAS.
IT IS MY HONOR THIS EVENING TO ANNOUNCE THIS YEAR'S HONOREE FOR DISTINGUISHED ARTS ADVOCATE AND AWARD, WHICH CELEBRATES AN ORGANIZATION SERVING AS AN ARTS LEADER WITH AN IMPACT OF THE ARTS IN OUR REGION.
THIS YEAR'S AWARD GOES TO AN ENTIRE ECOSYSTEM OF ARTS SUPPORTERS MAKING PLANO THE CITY OF EXCELLENCE FOR THE ARTS.
IT STARTS WITH A TEAM THAT MEETS DILIGENTLY EACH MONTH, EVALUATING GRANT SEEKERS, AND THEN PRESENTING THEIR FINDINGS TO THEIR TEAM.
COUNTERPARTS IN THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL WERE ADOPTED AND THEN EXECUTED BY AN INCREDIBLE STAFF AT THE CITY OF PLANO.
WE WORK WITH A DOZEN MUNICIPALITIES ACROSS NORTH TEXAS, AND THE CITY OF EXCELLENCE OFFERS ONE OF THE MOST PROGRESSIVE AND SUPPORTIVE ARTS ENVIRONMENTS IN THE REGION THROUGH ITS BEST IN CLASS, FAIR AND OBJECTIVE GRANT PROCESS TO ALLOCATE HOTEL MOTEL FUNDS.
OUR STARDUST AWARDS SELECTION PANEL CHOSE AS ONE OF THIS YEAR'S PERFORMING ARTS ADVOCATES, THE PLANO CULTURAL AFFAIRS CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION, AND THE CITY OF PLANO 27.
WE HOPE THAT WE CAN JOIN US AS HONOREES TO RECEIVE YOUR WELL-DESERVED RECOGNITION AT THE STARDUST AWARDS GALA ON NOVEMBER 4TH AT THE INCREDIBLE MARRIOTT LEGACY HOTEL IN PLANO WITH LIVE MUSIC AND SENSATIONAL MUSIC FROM THE EMERALD CITY BAND AND PERFORMANCES FROM OUR OWN AWARD-WINNING REPERTORY AND COLLEGIATE PURSUITS, PERFORMANCES.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE ARTS.
THANK YOU FOR THE PEANUT BUTTER.
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THE NEXT SPEAKER IS ALEXANDER STEIN.I JUST WANNA START OFF BY, UH, SEE, LOOK HOW THE GUY SHOOTS ME.
I JUST WANNA START OFF BY TAKING A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR ALL THE VICTIMS OF NINE 11, THE 3000 PEOPLE HERE IN AMERICA, AND THEN THE 1.4 MILLION MUSLIMS THAT DIED FOR WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION THAT DID NOT EXIST.
UH, I ALSO WANNA BRING UP THE 28 PAGES REDACTED FROM THE NINE 11 COMMISSION REPORT, WHICH DOES NOT TALK ABOUT SAUDI ARABIA'S INVOLVEMENT IN THE TERROR ATTACKS.
AND THE REASON WHY I BRING THAT UP, 'CAUSE IT'S SIMILAR TO THE GOVERNMENT CORRUPTION THAT I'M FACING HERE IN PLANO, AND THAT'S WHY I HANDED THE CITY SECRETARY THIS LAWSUIT, MAYOR, BECAUSE I'M SUING YOUR ASS 'CAUSE I'M PRIMETIME 99 ALEX STEIN.
AND YOU ARE NOT THE ARBITER OF FREE SPEECH.
I KNOW YOU THINK PLANO IS THE CITY OF EXCELLENCE.
IT'S THE CITY OF LAWSUITS NOW, BUD, BECAUSE I'M SUING YOU AND I'M GONNA GO TO COURT AND I'M GONNA WIN AND I'M GONNA GET OLIVE GARDEN MONEY 'CAUSE YOU'RE GONNA PAY ME.
'CAUSE THIS ISN'T MY FIRST LAWSUIT BECAUSE YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW THE, THE LAWS.
YOU THINK THAT YOU GET TO SUPERSEDE THE FIRST AMENDMENT.
I'M SORRY TO BREAK IT TO YOU BUDDY.
I KNOW YOUR BRAIN'S NOT VERY SMART, BUT YOU DON'T GET TO SUPERSEDE THE CONSTITUTION BUDDY.
AND YOU GOT, WHAT IS IT? SHELBY WILLIAMS OVER THERE.
WHY CAN'T I COME UP HERE AND DANCE? RICK ELLI USED TO DO SHOW TUNES IN HIGH SCHOOL.
SO ALL YOU GUYS ARE A BUNCH OF THEATER NERDS.
AND I COME HERE AND I TRY TO PUT ON A PERFORMANCE AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU GET BUTT HURT AND SHUT ME DOWN OFF THE CAMERA.
IT'S 'CAUSE YOU'RE A COWARD MAYOR.
YOU LIKE TO BE AN ACTOR, SO YOU DON'T GET TO BE THE ONLY ACTOR IN HERE.
I GOT A REAL SHOW I'M NOT DOING, UH, WHAT IS THIS? A VOLUNTEER THEATER.
AND YOU'RE GONNA UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN I BEAT YOUR BUTT IN LAW AND WHEN I, WHEN I SUE YOUR ASS AND I WIN, I'M COMING HERE WITH SO MANY BUTT NAKED HOES AND WE'RE GONNA BE DANCING AND PRANCING.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE LOUDSPEAKER AND YOU'RE NOT GONNA STOP ME ONE BIT.
MAYOR MUS, YOU KNOW WHY? 'CAUSE I'M THE PIMP ON A BLAME.
WHAT ARE YOU GUYS DOING? LET'S, LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS LITTLE VIDEO.
OH, ALEX STEIN'S IN THE CITY COUNCIL ROOM, UH, MAKING A FUNNY VIDEO.
WHAT ARE YOU GUYS DOING FOR THE PEANUT BUTTER THING? LOOK AT THIS VIDEO.
WHAT ARE YOU GUYS DOING? MAYOR MUS, I THINK, UH, MARIA TOO.
THE ASIAN WOMAN ALWAYS THE ONLY ONE.
IT LOOKS LIKE SHE'S AN ATHLETE.
YOU GUYS ARE THROWING THAT PEANUT BUTTER.
DID YOUR DAD EVER PLAY CATCH WITH YOU? SO IT'S VERY HYPOCRITICAL THAT I COME IN HERE AND I TRY TO CREATE CONTENT IN THIS COUNCIL, AND YOU GUYS GET ALL BUTT HURT BECAUSE I'M BRINGING UP THE FACT THAT TEACHERS ARE ALLOWED TO SPEAK ABOUT DISGUSTING THINGS TO THEIR STUDENTS.
YET IF I BRING UP THAT SAME SUBJECT, LIKE TEACHERS TEACHING THEIR KIDS ABOUT MASTURBATION, YOU SHUT ME DOWN.
I'M TRYING TO SHOW THE HYPOCRISY AND YOU FALL INTO MY TRAP.
SO MAYOR MONZ, I'M ABOUT TO GET PAID AND MY WIFE AND HER BOYFRIEND ARE GONNA BE ABLE TO GO ON THAT CRUISE THAT THEY'VE BEEN WANTING TO GO ON FOR SO LONG.
NINE NINE ALEX SHINE AND MARY MIND.
YOU'RE GONNA LEARN THE LESSON.
I'M JUST SAYING I I HATE TO DO IT THIS WAY.
YOU COULD JUST LET ME COME UP HERE.
YOU LET RICK ELLI SPEND ALL OF HIS FREE TIME DOING, UH, SHOW TUNES.
I MEAN, RICK ELLI IS THE SHOW TUNE.
HE'S ACTING YET, IF I PUT ON A THEATRICAL PERFORMANCE, YOU SHUT ME DOWN.
SO YOU'RE GONNA LEARN THE HARD WAY WHEN WE GO TO COURT.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
THE CONSENT AGENDA.THE CONSENT AGENDA WILL BE ACTED UPON IN ONE MOTION.
IT CONTAINS ITEMS WHICH ARE ROUTINE AND TYPICALLY NON-CONTROVERSIAL ITEMS MAY BE REMOVED FROM THIS AGENDA FOR INDIVIDUAL DISCUSSION BY A COUNCIL MEMBER OF THE CITY MANAGER OR ANY CITIZEN PRESIDING OFFICER WILL ESTABLISH TIME LIMITS BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKER REQUESTS.
MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA EXCEPT FOR ITEM H.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM H.
HOW DO YOU VOTE? CASEY, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.
MOTION PASSES EIGHT TO ZERO ITEM H, ITEM
[(h) To ratify an expenditure in the amount of $185,000 for one (1) 4x4 Crew Cab Bucket Truck from Ring Power for Fleet Services; and authorizing the City Manager to execute all necessary documents. ]
H TO RATIFY AN EXPENDITURE IN THE AMOUNT OF 185,000 FOR ONE FOUR BY FOUR CREW CAB BUCKET TRUCK FROM RING POWER FOR FLEET SERVICES, AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS.THERE WAS A PROFE, UH, POTENTIAL CONFLICT WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBER.
THAT WAS THE REASON WHY THIS WAS PULLED DOWN.
A SECOND TO APPROVE ITEM H, PLEASE VOTE
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YES.MOTION PASSES SEVEN WITH ONE ABSTENTION.
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS APPLICANTS ARE LIMITED TO 15 MINUTES PRESENTATION TIME WITH A FIVE MINUTE REBUTTAL IF NEEDED.
REMAINING SPEAKERS ARE LIMITED TO 30 TOTAL MINUTES OF TESTIMONY TIME WITH THREE MINUTES ASSIGNED PER SPEAKER.
THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY AMEND THESE TIMES AS DEEMED NECESSARY NON-PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL PERMIT PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA NOT POSTED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL ESTABLISH TIME LIMITS BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKER REQUESTS AND LENGTH OF THE AGENDA.
AND TO ENSURE MEETING EFFICIENCY AND MAY INCLUDE A CUMULATIVE TIME LIMIT.
SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED WHEN THE ORDER THE REQUESTS WERE RECEIVED UNTIL THE CUMULATIVE TIME IS EXHAUSTED.
[(1)
Public Hearing on the proposed tax rate of $0.4176 per $100 of taxable value for Fiscal Year 2023-24. (The first Public Hearing was held on August 28, 2023.)
]ONE, PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED TAX RATE OF 0.42 CENTS PER $100 OF VALUATION FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023 DASH 24.THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS HELD ON AUGUST 8TH, 2023.
THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE TAX RATE, AS LISA MENTIONED.
THIS IS THE SECOND ONE THAT WE HAVE DONE.
UH, ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT IS TO ADOPT A TAX RATE THAT IS OVER THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE RIGHT NOW.
IT'S 41.76 CENTS WITH 30.26 CENTS GOING TO THE OPERATING SIDE AND 11.5 TO THE DEBT.
I'LL, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.
I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, CONFINE THE COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL.
TH THERE'S NO ACTION ON THE PUBLIC HEARING.
[(2) Consideration of an Ordinance to approve and adopt the Tax Rate for the fiscal year beginning October 1, 2023 and terminating September 30, 2024; and providing an effective date. (The first Public Hearing was held on August 28, 2023. The second Public Hearing is being held on September 11, 2023, prior to the adoption of this Ordinance.)]
TWO, CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE TO APPROVE AND ADOPT THE TAX RATE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR, BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2023, AND TERMINATING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2024 AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.THIS IS TO ACTUALLY ADOPT THE TAX RATE AT 41.76 CENTS PER $100 OF ASSESSED PROPERTY VALUATION.
UM, PURSUANT TO THE SECTION 26 0 5 B WITH PROPERTY TAX CODE, I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY TAX RATE BE INCREASED BY THE ADOPTION OF A TAX RATE OF 0.4176, WHICH IS EFFECTIVELY AN 8.05% INCREASE IN THE TAX RATE.
I JUST, UH, HAD SOME, SOME COMMENT.
SO I WANNA START BY SAYING THAT I SUPPORT EVERYTHING THAT IS IN THE BUDGET TO INCREASE COMPENSATION FOR OUR EXCELLENT EMPLOYEES.
I'LL BE VOTING YES ON THE ITEMS RELATING TO, TO PAY FOR POLICE AND FIRE.
UH, BUT THIS GOES BEYOND PUBLIC SAFETY.
UH, IT EXTENDS TO EVERY EMPLOYEE BECAUSE IT TAKES EVERYONE TO MAKE TEAM PLANO.
SO I SUPPORT, UH, EVERY DOLLAR THAT IS IN THIS BUDGET FOR EMPLOYEE COMPENSATION.
THE 4.5% ACROSS THE BOARD RAISED THE COMPENSATION PHILOSOPHY, STUDY, AND MARKET ADJUSTMENTS.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME AS I, AS I KNOW IT, IS TO ALL OF US THAT PLANO REMAIN A DESTINATION EMPLOYER BECAUSE EXCELLENT CITY SERVICES START WITH EXCELLENT CITY EMPLOYEES, AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE IN PLANO, AND WE NEED TO COMPENSATE THEM AS SUCH.
I DO THINK THAT WE COULD HAVE, UH, DONE EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING FOR THE EMPLOYEES WHILE STILL, UH, MITIGATING THE INCREASE, UH, THAT TAXPAYERS ARE GOING TO SEE AS A RESULT OF THE INCREASE IN PROPERTY VALUES, UH, AND MAINTAINING THE SAME PROPERTY TAX RATE AS LAST YEAR.
I'VE TALKED ABOUT THESE AT PREVIOUS MEETINGS, SO I WON'T, YOU KNOW, UH, BELABOR THE POINT.
BUT, UH, BUT I BELIEVE THAT, UH, WE, WE COULD HAVE DONE THE IDEA ABOUT THE CAPITAL MAINTENANCE FUND, UH, 5 MILLION, UH, DOLLAR, UH, UH, DECREASE IN THE GENERAL FUND TRANSFER TO THE CAPITAL MAINTENANCE FUND, UH, BECAUSE WE ARE, UH, YOU KNOW, VERY LIKELY, AS LONG AS DART CONSIDERS US TO BE IN GOOD STANDING TO GET FUNDS THAT WE CAN USE FOR, UH, THOSE PROJECTS ANYWAY.
AND SECONDLY, AS I'VE TALKED ABOUT, AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THIS MORE IN, IN IN COMING MEETINGS, BUT, UH, FEES, YOU KNOW, I'LL GIVE THE EXAMPLE OF GYM FEES.
I LOVE GOING TO THE MULE AND BECK CENTER, BUT WHEN WE'RE SEEING, UH, UH, HOMEOWNERS ARE SEEING A 10% INCREASE IN THEIR PROPERTY TAX BILL, UH, EMPLOYEES ARE SEEING A 15% INCREASE IN THEIR HEALTH PREMIUMS, THERE'S NO REASON THAT GYM FEES SHOULD NOT BE GOING UP 10 TO 15%.
AND THAT'S JUST ONE, ONE EXAMPLE OF, UH, FEES THAT, THAT I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT, AT MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE JUST NOT JUST USING PROPERTY TAXES TO FILL THAT GAP, BUT THAT FEES ARE, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, COMMENSURATE TO THE SERVICE WE'RE DELIVERING.
BECAUSE GENERALLY SPEAKING, I, I
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BELIEVE FEES ARE PREFERABLE TO PROPERTY TAXES BECAUSE FEES FALL DIRECTLY ON THOSE USING THE SERVICE.UH, WHEREAS PROPERTY TAXES FALL ON, ON EVERYONE.
UM, WE'VE TALKED AT PREVIOUS MEETINGS ABOUT HOW, UH, A HOMEOWNER, UH, UNDER THIS BUDGET WHO HAS A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, BUT NO OTHER EXEMPTIONS, WE'LL SEE A 10.2% INCREASE, UH, IN THE DOLLAR AMOUNT OF THEIR TAXES.
WE KNOW ALSO THERE'S GONNA BE A 20% INCREASE IN SOLID WASTE RATES AND WATER RATES ARE GOING TO INCREASE.
ALSO, I'M CONCERNED THAT WE'RE USING 1.16 CENTS OF ROLLOVER INCREMENT THIS YEAR, UH, OUT OF THE 2.95 CENTS, UH, THAT HAS ACCRUED OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS.
THAT'S MORE THAN ONE THIRD OF THE AVAILABLE ROLLOVER INCREMENT.
AND, UH, WE HAVE THREE YEARS TO USE IT.
SO AT THIS PACE, WE WOULD POTENTIALLY BE ON PACE, UH, TO USE ALL OF IT.
AND, UH, I, I, I HOPE THAT THAT IS NOT WHAT WILL HAPPEN, BUT I'M CONCERNED THAT THAT'S THE PACE THAT WE'RE SETTING FOR OURSELVES TONIGHT.
UM, AND IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN, IT WOULD BE LIKE THE PREVIOUS THREE YEARS WHERE WE WERE AT OR NEAR THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE NEVER HAPPENED.
AND LIKE WE WERE INSTEAD AT THE MAXIMUM VOTER APPROVAL RATE, UH, EVERY YEAR.
SO, UM, I DO THINK, AND I WANNA, I WANNA BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT THIS BECAUSE, UH, I WRESTLED WITH THIS VOTE, UH, PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF CONCERNS ABOUT HOW IT WOULD BE MISINTERPRETED.
UH, IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME TO MAKE SURE THAT TEAM PLANO KNOWS THAT WE SUPPORT THEM.
UH, AND, UH, UH, I, FIRST OF ALL, I WAS WORRIED THAT AT, BY THE WAY, I I, AFTER WRESTLING WITH THIS, I'VE DECIDED I'M GOING TO ABSTAIN FROM THIS VOTE.
I DON'T, I'M, I'M NOT VOTING AGAINST.
I, I JUST, I, I JUST CAN'T BE, UH, ALL IN ON VOTING FOR THIS EITHER.
UH, I, I WANNA MAKE SURE THIS IS NOT MISINTERPRETED AS NOT SUPPORTING ALL OF THE EMPLOYEE PAY INCREASES.
AND I'M ALSO WORRIED THAT A BUDGET VOTE CAN SOMETIMES BE MISINTERPRETED AS A VOTE.
REGARDING CONFIDENCE IN CITY MANAGEMENT.
I DON'T WANNA SAY THAT I BELIEVE CITY MANAGER ISRAELSON IS THE BEST IN THE BUSINESS, AND JACK, SHELLY, SAM AND LASHAW ARE, ARE ALSO THE BEST AROUND.
AND I FINALLY WANT TO, TO THANK KAREN AND CASEY AND THE BUDGET AND RESEARCH TEAM.
PLANO IS STILL THE BEST VALUE AROUND.
AND, UH, AND I KNOW THAT WE TAKE AFFORDABILITY SERIOUSLY IN PLANO.
I I DO THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT THE TWO YEAR VIEW AND HOW FAR UNDER, UH, POPULATION GROWTH AND INFLATION WE WERE LAST YEAR, UM, AND ALSO THE 20 YEAR VIEW.
YOU KNOW, THAT SHOWS THAT, UH, THAT, THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE, WE'VE NOT EXCEEDED POPULATION GROWTH AND INFLATION OVER TIME.
NONETHELESS, UM, I I, I AM CONCERNED THAT WE'RE EMBARKING ON A NEW PATH WHERE WE'RE, WHERE WE'RE INCREASING, UH, PROPERTY TAXATION.
COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS DID SOME GREAT ANALYSIS OF THE PAST 20 YEARS, CREATED THAT GREAT CHART, AND SHOWED THAT WE'VE HAD PERIODS OF, OF HIGH GROWTH AND PERIODS OF RESTRAINT.
AND I, I, I'M CONCERNED THAT, UH, THAT WE'RE STARTING, UH, UH, BACK ON A PERIOD OF, OF, OF INCREASE, UH, THIS YEAR.
SO, UM, THERE, THERE ARE MANY OTHER THINGS I'D LIKE TO SAY.
I I DO WANT TO QUICKLY SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I, I'M NOT A MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY KIND OF GUY.
I, I, I, I WOULD VOTE FOR A BUDGET HIGHER THAN WHAT I WOULD'VE ADVOCATED FOR.
BUT GIVEN THAT THERE'S BEEN NO MOVEMENT IN THE TAX RATE FROM OUR INITIAL DISCUSSIONS AT ALL, IF I WERE TO VOTE FOR THIS, I, I WOULD JUST BE GOING ALONG TO GET ALONG.
AND I DON'T THINK ANY OF US WANT EACH OTHER TO GOVERN THAT WAY.
AND SO, UH, I'LL END WHERE I BEGAN.
UH, PLANO REMAINS THE BEST VALUE AROUND.
I'VE TREMENDOUS CONFIDENCE IN CITY MANAGEMENT FROM CITY MANAGER ISRAELSON ON DOWN.
I SUPPORT ABSOLUTELY EVERY DOLLAR THAT IS IN HERE FOR THE EMPLOYEES.
UH, WE HAVE TO DO THE FOUR POINT A HALF PERCENT COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT AND THE MARKET ADJUSTMENTS THROUGH THE COMPENSATION PHILOSOPHY STUDY.
OUR EMPLOYEES DESERVE IT, AND THE QUALITY OF CITY SERVICES DEPENDS ON IT.
BUT I DO THINK WE HAD OPPORTUNITIES TO SOMEWHAT MITIGATE WHAT HOMEOWNERS ARE GOING TO SEE IN TERMS OF THE INCREASE IN THEIR, THEIR, UH, PROPERTY TAX BILL FROM THE CITY.
AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF ROLLOVER INCREMENT THAT WE'RE USING.
SO, YOU KNOW, I, I, I, I'M, I'M GOING TO ABSTAIN.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T MEAN THIS TO BE A RED LIGHT, BUT, BUT A YELLOW LIGHT.
COUNCILMAN MEMBER WILLIAMS. THANK YOU, MAYOR.
UM, YES, THE, THERE'S A 10.2% PROJECTED, UH, HOMESTEAD TAX INCREASE.
UM, THAT IS THE VERY FIRST IN FIVE YEARS.
UM, AND I'M VERY SENSITIVE TO THAT.
I'VE WRESTLED WITH MANY OF THE SAME THINGS THAT, UH, COUNCILMAN RICK ELLI HAS.
UM, ACCORDING TO THE ANALYSIS THAT I DID THAT HE ALLUDED TO, THAT'S, UH, HALF OF WHAT C P I INFLATION WAS FOR OUR RESIDENTS DURING THE SAME TIME PERIOD.
UM, IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT THAT FOLKS UNDERSTAND THAT IN JUST THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, NEARLY $4 MILLION WAS WIPED OFF THE TAX ROLLS UNILATERALLY BY THE PLANO HOUSING AUTHORITY, UH, WITHOUT APPROVAL BY THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL.
THAT IS, UH, $4 MILLION THAT UNFORTUNATELY THE
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TAXPAYER NEEDS TO MAKE BACK UP OR WE SUFFER CUTS.THAT'S, UH, THAT'S ABOUT HALF OF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO RATES THAT WE WERE, THE TAX RATES THAT WE WERE DISCUSSING.
UM, NOW WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE RATE, YES, PLANO HAS, UH, THE LOWEST TAX RATE, I BELIEVE, IN THE METROPLEX, BUT THAT'S ONLY BECAUSE WE HAVE AMONGST THE HIGHEST PROPERTY VALUES.
THE TAX RATE TIMES THE PROPERTY VALUE, A LOW TAX RATE TIMES A HIGH PROPERTY VALUE EQUALS YOUR TAX BILL.
WHAT MAKES PLANO GREAT ISN'T A LOW TAX RATE OR LOW TAXES OR HIGH SPENDING, IT'S THE VALUE YOU GET FOR YOUR DOLLARS.
AS, UH, COUNCILMAN RICK ELLI ALLUDED TO THAT WE STRIVE FOR THE BEST VALUE, AND THAT FOLLOWS THROUGH IN THE MONIKER.
WE'VE EARNED THE CITY OF EXCELLENCE.
THE ONLY REASON WE HAVE EXCELLENT SERVICES, AND WE CAN CLAIM THAT TITLE IS BECAUSE OF OUR PEOPLE, UM, OUR STAFF.
AND THAT'S ULTIMATELY WHY I SUPPORT THIS RATE AND HAVE SUPPORTED IT, IS BECAUSE OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, UM, SEVERAL OF OUR METROPLEX COMPETITORS HAVE BECOME MORE COMPETITIVE.
AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE REMAIN COMPETITIVE, WE REMAIN THE BEST HOME FOR THE MOST TALENTED STAFF, UM, AND THAT WE ARE ABLE TO MAINTAIN OUR POSITION AS THE CITY OF EXCELLENCE MOVING FORWARD, UH, FOR NOT JUST YEARS, BUT DECADES TO COME.
ALL OF THAT SAID, BASED ON THAT 20 YEARS OF ANALYSIS THAT I DID, I BELIEVE WE HAVE ACHIEVED EQUILIBRIUM.
UM, AND I DON'T WANT TO KEEP USING SAVED UP INCREMENTS, UH, BECAUSE I BELIEVE WE HAVE ACHIEVED EQUILIBRIUM.
THERE ARE SOME FACTORS WHICH WE COULDN'T COUNT ON, SUCH AS THE, THE DART REIMBURSEMENTS, WHICH I'M NOT GONNA COUNT MY CHICKENS BEFORE THE HATCH.
UM, AND WHAT WE CAN HOPE WILL BE A, UH, SALES TAX SURPLUS FOR THE CITY.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THESE FUNDS, UM, BANKED TOWARD NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, ASSUMING THEY MATERIALIZE AS, AS WE HOPE, UH, SO THAT WE'RE NOT USING AN INCREMENT GOING FORWARD, UM, AND ALSO HELPING FLESH OUT OUR RAINY DAY FUND.
BUT THAT'S WHERE I WANNA WORK ON A, A, A LONG-TERM PHILOSOPHY FOR TAXING AND BUDGETING FOR THE CITY THAT RECOGNIZES THE EQUILIBRIUM WE'VE ACHIEVED AFTER, LET'S FACE IT, SOME YEARS OF TREMENDOUS UNCERTAINTY IN THE ECONOMY.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, UH, TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER TWO, WHICH WOULD BE THE TAX RATE.
[(3) Consideration of an Ordinance to ratify the property tax revenue in the 2023-24 Budget as a result of the City receiving more revenues from property taxes in the 2023-24 Budget than in the previous fiscal year; and providing an effective date. (The first Public Hearing was held on August 28, 2023. The second Public Hearing is being held on September 11, 2023, prior to the adoption of this Ordinance.)]
ITEM THREE, UH, CHAPTER 26 OF THE PROPERTY TAX CODE.IF WE ARE GONNA COLLECT EVEN $1 MORE THAN WE DID IN PROPERTY TAX REVENUE LAST YEAR, THIS IS JUST RECOGNIZING IT'S RATIFYING THE TAX INCREASE THAT Y'ALL KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA COLLECT.
I MOVED TO RATIFY THE PROPERTY TAX INCREASE REFLECTED IN THE BUDGET ADOPTED FOR THE FISCAL YEAR, BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2023, AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2024.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE.
[(4)
Consideration of an Ordinance to approve and adopt the Operating Budget and setting the appropriations for the fiscal year beginning October 1, 2023, and terminating September 30, 2024; and providing an effective date. (Public Hearings held on August 14, 2023, August 17, 2023, and August 28, 2023.)
]ITEM FOUR IS TO APPROVE AND ADOPT THE OPERATING BUDGET AND SETTING THE APPROPRIATIONS.WE HAVE INCLUDED WITHIN YOUR PACKET ALL THE MOST UPDATED FUND SUMMARIES AFTER MAKING SEVERAL DIFFERENT CHANGES, UH, SINCE THE CITY COUNCIL BUDGET WORK SESSION THAT WE HAD MID AUGUST.
THE TOTAL BUDGET IS $729 MILLION.
I HAVE A MO MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR, PLEASE VOTE.
[(5)
Consideration of an Ordinance to approve and adopt the Community Investment Program and setting the appropriations for the fiscal year beginning October 1, 2023, and ending September 30, 2024; and providing an effective date. (Public Hearings held on August 14, 2023, August 17, 2023, and August 28, 2023.)
]OKAY.
ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS THE LAST ONE.
THIS IS YOUR COMMUNITY INVESTMENT PROGRAM THIS YEAR IT TOTALS $342 MILLION.
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WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL PUBLIC HEARINGS, ONE AUGUST 14TH, ONE AUGUST 17TH, AND ONE AUGUST 28TH REGARDING THE C I P.AND, UH, I'LL SAY ON, ON THIS ONE, JUST TO AVOID CONFUSION, I'M VOTING FOR THIS, THE TWO CHANGES THAT, THAT I TALKED ABOUT.
THE GENERAL FUND TRANSFER TO THE CAPITAL MAINTENANCE FUND, AND THE FEES ARE NOT IMPLICATED BY THE, THE C I P.
SO I'LL BE VOTING YES ON THIS ITEM.
AND SECOND TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER FIVE, PLEASE VOTE.
[(6)
Consideration of an Ordinance to repeal Ordinance No. 2022-9-7; establishing the classifications and Compensation Plan for the civil service members of the Plano Fire Department for fiscal year 2023-24 with the effective date of September 25, 2023; establishing the number of positions and Certification and Assignment Pay Plans for the civil service members of the Plano Fire Department for fiscal year 2023-24 with the effective date of October 1, 2023; and providing a repealer clause, a severability clause and an effective date.
]ITEM NUMBER SIX, CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE TO REPEAL.ORDINANCE NUMBER 2022 DASH NINE DASH SEVEN SEVEN, ESTABLISHING CLASSIFICATIONS AND COMPENSATION PLAN FOR THE CIVIL SERVICE MEMBERS OF THE PLANO FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR FISCAL YEAR 20 23 24, WITH AN EFFECTIVE DATE OF SEPTEMBER 25TH, 2023.
ESTABLISHING THE NUMBER OF POSITIONS, CERTIFICATION AND ASSIGNMENT PAY PLANS FOR THE CIVIL SERVICE MEMBERS OF THE PLANO FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR FISCAL YEAR 20 23, 24, WITH THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF OCTOBER 1ST, 2023, PROVIDING A REPEAL CLAUSE, A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, AND AN GOOD EVENING.
MAYOR NUNZ, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, MR. ISRAELSON, MS. MINS, UM, I'M LASHAUN ROSS, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF PLANO.
WE HAVE, UH, FIVE PAY PLANS AT THE CITY OF PLANO.
THERE'S A GENERAL PAY PLAN FOR NON-CIVIL SERVICE EMPLOYEES.
THERE'S ALSO A PAY PLAN FOR THE EMPLOYEES IN OUR TECHNOLOGY SOLUTIONS DEPARTMENT, A PAY PLAN FOR EMPLOYEES IN OUR PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT, AND THEN ONE FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, CIVIL SERVICE, AND ONE FOR FIRE DEPARTMENT CIVIL SERVICE.
I'M HERE TONIGHT NOW THAT YOU ALL HAVE ADOPTED OUR BUDGET, UM, HERE TONIGHT.
UM, FOR THE FIRE ONE, THIS, THIS ONE IS THE FIRST ONE.
UM, WE ARE GOVERNED BY THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE FOR OUR CIVIL SERVICE EMPLOYEES, AND IT ALSO SETS FORTH INFORMATION AND GUIDANCE ON, UH, ADOPTING COMPENSATION PLANS AND CLASSIFICATION PLANS FOR OUR POLICE AND FIRE.
SO WE ARE HERE WITH THE, UM, ADJUSTED PAY PLAN FOR OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, UH, TO BE PUT IN PLACE WITH THE EFFECTIVE DATES THAT ARE, UH, THAT LISA HENDERSON HAS JUST, UH, READ OFF FOR YOU.
ANTHONY, I'M GONNA LEAVE IT FOR YOU.
WELL, I, I WILL MOVE THAT WE APPROVE.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE.
OH, THAT'S, OH, YOU, YOU, WELL, WELL DONE.
SHE'S TALKING, TALKING TO THE FLIGHT ATTENDANT.
[(7)
Consideration of an Ordinance to repeal Ordinance No. 2022-9-8; establishing the classifications and Compensation Plan for the civil service members of the Plano Police Department for fiscal year 2023-24 with the effective date of September 25, 2023; establishing the number of positions and Certification and Assignment Pay Plans for the civil service members of the Plano Police Department for fiscal year 2023-24 with the effective date of October 1, 2023; and providing a repealer clause, a severability clause and an effective date.
]ITEM SEVEN, CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE TO REPEAL.ORDINANCE NUMBER 2023 DASH NINE DASH EIGHT, OR EXCUSE ME, 2022 DASH NINE DASH EIGHT, ESTABLISHING THE CLASSIFICATIONS AND COMPENSATION PLAN FOR THE CIVIL SERVICE MEMBERS OF THE PLANO POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR FISCAL YEAR 20 23, 24, WITH AN EFFECTIVE DATE OF SEPTEMBER 25TH, 2023, ESTABLISHING THE NUMBER OF POSITIONS AND CERTIFICATION AND ASSIGNMENT PAY PLANS FOR THE CIVIL SERVICE MEMBERS OF THE PLANO POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR FISCAL YEAR 20 23, 24, WITH AN EFFECTIVE DATE OF OCTOBER 1ST, 2023, AND PROVIDING A REPEAL CLAUSE, A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THE PARAMETERS FOR THIS ITEM ARE THE SAME AS FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, UM, AND WE ARE SETTING FORTH AND ASKING FOR THE COUNCIL'S APPROVAL OF THE ADJUSTED PAY PLAN BASED UPON THE NEW BUDGET FOR OUR CIVIL SERVICE POLICE EMPLOYEES.
I, I SEE DEPUTY MAYOR FOR ATTEMPT TO BECKONING ME A AGAIN.
SO I WILL MOVE FOR THE, UH, THE ADOPTION OF, UH, ITEM SEVEN, THE, THE AMENDED, UH, PAY PLAN FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND SECOND TO APPROVE, UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, PLEASE VOTE
AND COUNCIL, I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A, A QUICK MOMENT TO THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF THE EMPLOYEES FOR YOUR
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SUPPORT IN KEEPING THIS, THE CITY OF EXCELLENCE.NOT ONLY, UM, ADDING TO THE COMPENSATION PLANS, BUT THE POSITIONS THAT Y'ALL HAVE AUTHORIZED, UM, ARE MEANINGFUL TO KEEPING PLANO THE CITY OF EXCELLENCE.
THIS WAS A, A VERY TOUGH BUDGET SEASON WHERE WE ALL DID A LOT MORE MATH AND SPREADSHEETS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAN WE'VE DONE IN, IN ANY GIVEN YEAR.
UM, BUT THIS IS MEANINGFUL AND THIS IS GOING TO KEEP PLANO THE BEST VALUE AND THE CITY OF EXCELLENCE AS WE GO FORWARD.
BUT IT DOES NOT HAPPEN WITHOUT YOUR SUPPORT, AND IT DOES NOT GO UNNOTICED.
SO THANK EACH OF YOU FOR THIS.
AND CASEY, THANK YOUR FLIGHT ATTENDANT FOR PAYING ATTENTION AS YOU KEEP SAYING YES, OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMMITMENT ON THE PLANE, SO THANK YOU.
[(8)
Consideration of an Ordinance to adopt the Street Design Standards, which are minimum standards to be followed in the design and development of streets, thoroughfares, sidewalks, and appurtenances within the city, and providing a penalty clause, a repealer clause, a savings clause, a severability clause, a publication clause, and an effective date.
]NUMBER EIGHT, CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE TO ADOPT THE STREET DESIGN STANDARDS, WHICH ARE MINIMUM STANDARDS TO BE FOLLOWED IN THE DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT OF STREETS.THOROUGH AFFAIRS WALKWAYS, A PURS WITHIN THE CITY, AND PROVIDING A PENALTY CLAUSE, A REPEAL CLAUSE, A SAVINGS CLAUSE, A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, A PUBLICATION CLAUSE, AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL EXECUTIVES.
MY NAME IS MIKE BELL, PLANNING MANAGER WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
THE PURPOSE, PURPOSE OF THIS ITEM IS TO AJO ADOPT THE STREET DESIGN STANDARDS.
UH, AN OVERVIEW OF THE STREET DESIGN STANDARDS WAS PROVIDED IN YOUR PRELIMINARY OPEN MEETING, INCLUDING A SUMMARY OF THE FEEDBACK RECEIVED.
AS A REMINDER, THIS IS THE, UM, FIRST OF SEVERAL ITEMS IN LINE WITH THE STREET DESIGN STANDARDS, AND THE OTHER ITEMS ARE PENDING APPROVAL OF THIS ONE ITEM.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF SEVEN TO ZERO WITH ONE ABSTENTION.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I THINK WE HAVE A SPEAKER TWO.
WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.
I GO AHEAD AND I'M NATHAN SHEA.
I AM WITH URBAN FAMILY RESTAURANTS, 1104 14TH STREET PLANO.
UM, I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS, UH, TAKING THE TIME TO, UH, LET ME SPEAK.
UM, ACTUALLY WASN'T GONNA BE HERE TONIGHT.
I CUT MY TRIP SHORT JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT I COULD BE HERE TO, UH, SPEAK ON, SPEAK ON THIS.
UM, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND READ THIS JUST SO I CAN MAKE SURE I GET MY THREE MINUTES IN AND, AND GET IT DONE.
SO, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE PUT OUR HEART AND SOUL INTO PLANO, ESPECIALLY DOWNTOWN, AS WELL AS A HUGE FINANCIAL INVESTMENT.
I SENT ALL OF YOU AN EMAIL ABOUT OUR THOUGHTS ON 14TH STREET, AND I KNOW, I HOPE ALL OF YOU GOT, UH, AN EMAIL THAT I SENT OUT.
I BELIEVE EVERYBODY HAS SEEN THE DRAWING.
I APPRECIATE ALL THE TIME AND EFFORT PUT INTO THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN.
I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT PUT INTO THAT, AND, UM, OBVIOUSLY I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON IT, BUT I'M GONNA GIVE YOU WHAT I THINK, UH, ON 14TH STREET, ESPECIALLY.
UM, I KNOW THE PLAN IS CONCEPTUAL, BUT WE WOULD LIKE YOU ALL TO CONSIDER OUR CONCERNS.
MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS REDUCING THE LANES ON 14TH STREET.
THIS IS A MAIN THOROUGHFARE, THOROUGHFARE INTO DOWNTOWN PLANO.
IF THIS IS REDUCED, IT WILL NOT JUST SLOW DOWN TRAFFIC, BUT WILL SLOW DOWN.
HOW MANY PEOPLE DRIVE INTO DOWNTOWN? THE LEFT TURN LANE AT AVENUE K WILL BACK UP SO MUCH THAT CARS WANTING TO GO STRAIGHT WILL BE STOPPED.
THERE IS NOT ENOUGH SPACE BETWEEN MUNICIPAL AND AVENUE K TO PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING.
ALSO, CLOSING THE LEFT TURN LANE INTO THE PUBLIC PARKING LOT GOING EAST ON 14TH, WILL MAKE DRIVERS GO THE ENTIRE BLOCK TO GET INTO THAT LOT.
THE CITY PURCHASED THIS EASEMENT FROM, FROM ME, TO PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING.
PLEASE DON'T VOTE ON THIS ENTIRE PLAN WITHOUT ADDRESSING THESE ISSUES.
WE ARE COMING TO YOU BECAUSE YOU BELIEVE IN THE BUSINESS GROWTH OF THIS CITY, AS WELL AS WHAT WE BELIEVE IN.
THIS WILL NOT, THIS WILL HARM OUR GROWTH IF WE NARROW THIS DOWN TO ONE LANE.
THIS IS A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE COMING INTO DOWNTOWN PLANO.
PEOPLE WILL TAKE ALTERNATE ROUTES TO COME INTO DOWNTOWN.
IT WILL AFFECT EVERY BUSINESS, NOT JUST ON 14TH STREET, BUT EVERY BUSINESS IN PLANO.
THESE PARKING LOTS WILL BE AFFECTED.
PEOPLE WON'T GO TO THOSE PARKING LOTS.
I KNOW WE WANT TO SLOW TRAFFIC, BUT WE WANT TO BRING PEOPLE INTO THIS CITY.
AND IF WE NARROW THIS 20 SECONDS, SIT DOWN, THERE'S NOT MANY OTHER AREAS TO COME INTO DOWNTOWN.
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THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS HAROLD OVERBY, WHO WILL BE JOINING US VIA ZOOM.
SO WE, WE, UH, WE HAD A, UH, THE INFORMATION ON IN THE PRELIMINARY MEETING.
AND SO THIS, UH, ITEM IS CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE ON THE STANDARDS.
IS THERE ANY, UH, COMMENTS? COUNCILMAN HORN? YEAH, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE PASS THIS ON TO THE CITIZENS THAT ARE TUNING IN, THAT THIS IS A PLAN AND ANYTHING THAT WE DO IN THE FUTURE WITH REGARDS TO REDESIGN THE STREETS.
UM, IT'S GONNA BE THOROUGHLY TESTED BOTH ELECTRONICALLY THROUGH MODELING, BUT ALSO WE COME TO AN AGREEMENT THAT WE THINK BEFORE WE GO FORWARD, WE'LL DO A MOCK-UP JUST TO SEE HOW TRAFFIC'S EFFECTIVE.
MY BIGGEST CONCERN HERE IS WHEN I VISIT, UH, THE URBAN RESTAURANTS, ALL OF THEM, UH, IS PEDESTRIAN, PEDESTRIAN SAFETY.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT NOW, PARTICULARLY DOWNTOWN.
WE WANT DOWNTOWN TO BE VIBRANT.
AND WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WHEN WE'RE CROSSING STREETS.
AND WE WANNA MAKE IT FRIENDLY FOR PEDESTRIANS WITHOUT INTERRUPTING THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC, EAST, WEST NOR SOUTH.
SO ANY OF THESE CHANGES THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING HERE, ANY CONCEPTUAL PLAN RIGHT NOW WOULD OCCUR INCREMENTALLY OVER TIME, WHERE IT'S JUST NOT GONNA WAKE UP TOMORROW AND WE'RE GONNA CHANGE 14TH.
SO I WANNA ASSURE YOU THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE.
YOU CAN'T DEVELOP, UH, A CITY, A DISTRICT WITHOUT HAVING A PLAN IN PLACE.
AND THIS IS A GOOD PLACE TO START.
NOW, LET ME REMIND YOU, PLANS CHANGE, CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS CHANGE.
LOOK AT THE ME, THE MICHIGAN JUG HANDLES ON LEGACY IN PRESTON.
WE KNOW HOW SUCCESSFUL THAT WAS NOT, BUT WE CHANGED BACK TO WAY IT WAS.
SO THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO TELL EVERYBODY, THAT THIS IS A PLAN.
AND I'VE LOOKED AT THIS COMP PLAN NOW FOR THREE TIMES THROUGH ITS VARIOUS ITERATIONS, AND IT'S A START, BUT WE'RE THERE TO HELP OUR NEIGHBORS, BOTH FROM THE BUSINESS AND RESIDENTIAL SIDE TO ENJOY DOWNTOWN.
AND THE DOWNTOWN AREA IS UNIQUE IN ITSELF.
'CAUSE WE HAVE LEGACY STREETS.
UH, WE HAVE NEW STREETS, HAVE EOS, ALL THOSE.
WE DON'T HAVE THAT THROUGH THE TYPICAL NEIGHBORHOOD THAT YOU SEE.
SO WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF STANDARDS, AND WE HAVE TO THEN FROM FOLLOWING FORWARD, TAKEN FROM THE COMP PLAN THROUGH THE, THE DESIGN STANDARDS TO THE ORDINANCES.
THIS IS THE FIRST STEP OF US GETTING THERE.
BUT LET US ASSURE YOU, AND WE ALL TALKED ABOUT THIS AS A, AS A, UH, COUNSEL, WE WON'T GO FORWARD UNTIL WE HAVE ADDITIONAL INPUT FROM OUR NEIGHBORS DOWNTOWN.
WE HAVE BOTH COMPUTER MODELS AND THEN ALSO HAVE MOCKUPS BEFORE ANYTHING'S EVER DETERMINED TO BE PERMANENT.
AND IF IT DOESN'T WORK OUT WHEN IT'S PERMANENT, WE GOT ERASERS ON THOSE PENCILS AND WE CAN CHANGE IT BACK.
SO THAT'S JUST WHAT I WANTED TO BRING AS A COMMENT.
UM, I DID HAVE A QUESTION I FORGOT TO ASK EARLIER, A COUPLE.
UM, WHAT IF WE DON'T PASS THE PLAN TONIGHT, WOULD, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN? UM, THE EXISTING STANDARDS ARE IN PLACE, UM, FOR DOWNTOWN.
AGAIN, THAT'S NOT A PRACTICAL FIT, BUT IT WOULD STILL BE IN PLACE.
AND I ECHO EVERYTHING THAT COUNCIL MEMBER HORN SAID, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND.
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I THINK WE ALL AGREE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE A PILOT AND MOCK UP BEFORE DOING ANYTHING PERMANENT DOWNTOWN.UM, IT, HOW DOES THAT WORK? I MEAN, IS IT, DOES IT, IF IT GOES ON A C I P, WOULD IT NOT BE UNTIL WE APPROVE THE C I P AND THEN, SO WE'D HAVE TO SEE IT ON A C I P.
BRIAN, WOULD YOU TALK, I I HAD A MOMENT TO, UH, IN BETWEEN MEETINGS TO TALK WITH BRIAN A. LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, DOING A BIT OF A PILOT AND, AND DOING IT FOR A PERIOD OF PROBABLY SIX MONTHS.
WE, WITH EVERYTHING GOING ON, UM, DOWNTOWN HOLIDAYS AND DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT ASPECTS, WE WANTED TO GIVE ENOUGH TIME TO GET A, A PRETTY GOOD PICTURE OF THINGS, BUT ALSO THE SCOPE AND MAGNITUDE OF THAT, BECAUSE I, I THINK THERE WAS SOME SUGGESTION OF DO ALL OF DOWNTOWN VERSUS DOING SECTIONS OF DOWNTOWN.
AND I, I ASKED BRIAN TO THINK ABOUT THAT AND THINK ABOUT A RESPONSE.
SO IN ANTICIPATION OF THIS, BRIAN, WHAT WOULD YOUR RESPONSE BE?
UH, WE'VE ACTUALLY ALREADY SCHEDULED A MEETING NEXT WEEK WITH PUBLIC WORKS ENGINEERING PUBLIC WORKS TO BRAINSTORM HOW THIS, HOW THIS CAN HAPPEN.
THERE ARE A LOT OF MOVING PARTS THAT ARE GONNA HAVE TO BE IN INCLUDED IN THIS DISCUSSION.
SIGNALS ARE GONNA HAVE TO BE REPLACED, UH, AS PART OF THIS PAYMENT MARKINGS SIGNING.
UH, ONE OF THE ISSUES, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE POSSIBLY COULD DO IS WE COULD SHUT DOWN CERTAIN LANES TO, TO FACILITATE THIS, MAKE IT LOOK LIKE A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
THE PROBLEM IS GUARANTEED THAT CONSTRUCTION ZONE IS IN PLACE FOR SEVEN DAYS AND THERE'S NOTHING HAPPENING IN IT.
I'M GETTING CALLS, AND IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, A SEVERAL MONTH TYPE, UH, TURNAROUND, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO POSSIBLY DO MORE PERMANENT SOLUTIONS.
BUT WE HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULED FOR NEXT WEEK TO BRAINSTORM TO MAKE, MAKE AND SEE HOW THIS IS GONNA HAPPEN.
UM, AS, AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SCHEDULING, UH, THERE'S BEEN, UH, POSSIBLE DISCUSSION ABOUT DOING EVERYTHING ALL AT ONCE.
ESSENTIALLY, WE'VE GOT TWO DIFFERENT PROJECTS.
WE'VE GOT 15TH AS ONE PROJECT IS COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT FROM WHAT'S HAPPENING ON, ON 14TH.
NOTHING CHANGES BETWEEN 15TH AND AND 14TH AS FAR AS THE CONNECTOR FROM ON ON AVENUE G.
SO I'D PROBABLY PROPOSE TO, TO SPLIT 'EM UP, DO 15TH AS ONE SEPARATE PROJECT AND LOOK AT 14TH AS A, AS A SEPARATE PROJECT.
UH, UM, I'M, I'M OPEN TO CONSIDERATION ON HOW TO GO ABOUT THAT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I RAISED EARLIER WAS THAT I WANNA SEE SOMETHING HOLISTIC, BECAUSE UNDERSTANDING THAT 15TH AND 14TH ARE TWO SEPARATE PROJECTS.
PEOPLE ALTER THEIR, UH, THEIR DRIVING BEHAVIOR BASED ON CLOSURES IN ONE STREET.
PERFECT EXAMPLE IS, I'M NOT DRIVING ON PARKER CURRENTLY, UM, WITH ALL THE CONSTRUCTION ON THERE, I'M JUST TAKING A DIFFERENT ROAD.
BUT IF WE'RE MAKING CHANGES TO PARK AND PARKER SIMULTANEOUSLY, UM, THAT'LL BE A BETTER TAIL AS TO, UH, WHAT THE, WHAT THE EFFECT IS ON ONE OF THOSE ROADS.
THAT'S ACTUALLY A VERY GOOD POINT.
AND COUNSEL, I, I THINK THAT GIVEN THIS, THIS ASPECT, UM, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH STAFF BEING ABLE TO MEET ON THIS AND TAKE SOME TIME TO, TO PLAN OUT WHAT AN EFFECTIVE PILOT WOULD LOOK LIKE, UM, GOING FORWARD.
THAT THAT IS SOMETHING WE'D STILL BE HAPPY TO BRIEF COUNSEL ON, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT Y'ALL ARE AWARE OF WHAT IT WOULD ENTAIL, WHAT EXACTLY THE, THE ELEMENTS WOULD LOOK LIKE.
THERE IS OBVIOUSLY GONNA BE SOME COST TO THIS, OBVIOUSLY, IF WE'RE DOING PAVEMENT MARKINGS AND IT'S REQUIRING SOME SIGNALIZATION.
BUT I, I THINK IN ORDER TO, TO DO IT IN A WAY THAT GIVES US, UH, VALUABLE FEEDBACK, I, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ALLOW STAFF IF WE'RE GOING TO DO A PILOT TO DO IT THE WHOLE WAY.
SO, BRIAN, COUNCIL MEMBER HOLMAN, YOU ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE, THE COST MAY USING C I P FUNDS.
C I P FUNDS ARE USED FOR PERMANENT FUNDS.
SO WE'RE, WE COULDN'T USE THOSE 'CAUSE THIS WOULD BE POSSIBLY A TEMPORARY, BUT I WAS JUST MAKING SURE I UNDERSTOOD WHEN, WHEN SOMETHING WOULD TAKE PLACE, WHEN WOULD WE KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE TAKE PLACE IF WE APPROVE IT? OKAY, THEN THE PLAN THEN COULD IT JUST