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[CALL TO ORDER]
CITY COUNCIL IS RECONVENED AN OPEN SESSION THAT ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.WE'LL BEGIN TONIGHT'S REGULAR MEETING WITH THE INVOCATION LED BY SENIOR PASTOR MARK RIGGINS WITH THE LIFEPOINT CHURCH AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND TEXAS PLEDGE, LED BY CUB SCOUT PAC 1, 2, 2 OH FROM HEDGE COATS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
WOULD YOU ALL PLEASE RISE? LET'S PRAY.
GOD, WE THANK YOU FOR WHAT THIS NIGHT IS ABOUT.
AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO HAVE JUST THE CIVIL, UH, PUBLIC, UH, EXPERIENCE THAT WE RECOGNIZE IS A PRIVILEGE.
GOD, WE THANK YOU FOR THE CITIZENS THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT, THAT HAVE INVESTED THIS EVENING FOR, UH, OUR CITY COUNCIL THAT'S HERE TONIGHT, INVESTING MANY HOURS, MANY UNSEEN.
WE THANK YOU FOR THEIR INVESTMENT INTO OUR COMMUNITY.
GOD, WE RECOGNIZE THAT EVERY PERSON IN THIS ROOM AND IN OUR COMMUNITY HAS DIGNITY AND WORTH.
AND WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT ALL POWER THAT IS REPRESENTED IN THIS ROOM COMES FROM YOU.
AND I PRAY THAT WE WOULD NOW HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEVERAGE IT FOR THE BENEFIT OF OTHERS.
I PRAY THAT YOU WOULD GIVE EACH OF THESE LEADERS UNIQUE WISDOM, UNIQUE, UH, COMPASSION AND COURAGE HERE TONIGHT.
WE PRAY ALL THESE THINGS IN JESUS' NAME.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE DUE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
AND TO THE REPUBLIC WHO, WHICH STANDS? ONE NATION A HUNDRED DOLLARS SCHOOL WITH THE LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL BY HONORS AND TEXAS SOCIETY.
I TO BE ONE, ONE STATE UNDER GOD.
ARE YOU THINKING RED? NOW? WHAT HAVE WE CREATED
ALRIGHT, EVERYBODY WHERE WE AT? THANK YOU.
DID, DID EVERYBODY GET ONE? COME HERE.
YOU GUYS GOTTA TAKE A PICTURE.
RIGHT? EVERYONE STAND AROUND HERE.
DID YOU MOVE? WHICH ONE? RED OR BLUE? I DON'T CARE.
YOU COME BACK HERE WITH ME? YEAH.
OKAY, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA SQUEEZE IN HERE A LITTLE BIT.
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[Presentation: Carter BloodCare and the Plano Rotary Clubs will present the Battle of the Badges Trophy for the 2023 Blood Drive.]
SO IT'S MY HONOR TO PRESENT THE BATTLE OF THE BADGES TROPHY TO THE PLANO FIRE RESCUE.I'D LIKE TO CALL FORWARD CHIEF BIGGERSTAFF, PLANO FIRE DEPARTMENT CHIEF ED DRAIN PLANO POLICE DEPARTMENT.
ROTARIANS, DANIEL LONG AND OTHER ROTARIANS.
VICKI LONG REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE PLANO FIRE RESCUE ASSOCIATES AND THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE PLANO CITIZENS POLICE ACADEMY ALUMNI ASSOCIATION, THE PLANO FIRE RESCUE AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS HELD THEIR ANNUAL BATTLE OF THE BADGES BLOOD DRIVE THE WEEK OF JANUARY, UH, JULY 5TH THROUGH JULY 9TH.
THE TROPHY GOES TO PLANO FIRE RESCUE FOR HAVING MORE BLOOD THAN THE POLICE
AND WE APPRECIATE ALL THE EMPLOYEES WHO DONATED.
ANYBODY WANNA SPEAK THE MAYOR? UH, CHIEF DRAIN IS NOT ABLE TO BE HERE WITH THE SUSTAIN.
I DUNNO WHAT THE TROPHY LOOKS LIKE.
I NEVER WANTED, HEY, YOU GOT THE EX-CHIEF HERE.
WAIT, JOHN, YOU GOT THE EX-CHIEF HERE.
OH, WELL HE'S IN THIS, THAT'S RIGHT.
WHO, WHO, UH, WHO WON IT MANY TIMES IN HIS, WE, WE ARE, WE'RE PLEASED TO HAVE IT.
UH, DANIEL, YOU WANNA SAY A FEW WORDS? I THINK SO.
GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF PLANO.
AND WASN'T THAT A FANTASTIC EVENT WITH THE SCOUTS? THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.
19 YEARS AGO, PLANO RAN INTO A SHORTAGE OF BLOOD DRIVES IN THE SUMMER BECAUSE THE SCHOOLS ARE OUT AND THAT'S OUR BIGGEST SOURCE OF BLOOD DURING THE YEAR.
SO 19 YEARS AGO, THE PLANO POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE PLANO FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND A LOT OF THE ROTARIANS IN PLANO STARTED DOING A LOT OF THE BLOOD DRIVES EVERY YEAR.
WE'RE DOING THEM IN JULY THIS YEAR, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS CREDITED WITH 137 UNITS OF GOOD BLOOD.
THE FAR DEPARTMENT CONTRIBUTED 296 GOOD UNITS.
THAT NUMBER REPRESENTS THE POSSIBILITY OF SAVING 1,299 LIVES IN OUR LOCAL HOSPITALS.
IT IS MY PLEASURE NOW TO PRESENT THE TROPHY AND MY AND THE CARTER BLOOD SOURCE REPRESENTATIVE, MS. VICKI LONG THAT PUT ALL OF THIS TOGETHER.
VICKI, ARE YOU READY TO PRESENT THE TROPHY? YES.
YOUR TEAM PULLED IT TOGETHER THIS YEAR.
AND YOU KNOW, THE PREVIOUS CHIEF BEHIND YOU FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS ENVIOUS OF YOU NOW BECAUSE NOW YOU GET TO CARRY THE TROPHY HOME WITH YOU UNTIL NEXT YEAR WHEN WE'LL DO THE SAME THING AGAIN.
IF ANY OF Y'ALL WERE NOT PART OF THIS DRIVE THIS YEAR IN JULY, PLEASE LOOK FOR US.
WE WILL BE ALL OVER PLANO AND YOU CAN BE PART OF THE GREAT DRIVE NEXT YEAR.
GOD BLESS YOU ALL AND KEEP DONATING.
WE'VE NEVER BEEN IN THIS POSITION BEFORE.
I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO CARTER.
THEY DID A GREAT JOB OF ORGANIZING THIS SUNRISE ROTARY, UH, PIONEER
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ROTARY.GREAT JOB ON SUPPORT P F R A, GOOD JOB.
AND, UH, ALL THE MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY OUTREACH.
UH, GREAT WORK ON EVERYBODY'S PART.
JUST THANK YOU FOR, UH, HELPING A GOOD CAUSE.
THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO, MAYOR.
ALL RIGHT, LET'S GET A PICTURE.
WHICH CHIEF THERE? THREE OF THEM.
WHO TOLD THE FIRE CHIEF TO GET IN FRONT? YOU AND SAM? BOTH.
[COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST]
TO COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST.THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING IS TO ALLOW UP TO THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER WITH 30 TOTAL MINUTES ON ITEMS OF INTEREST OR CONCERN AND NOT ON ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE CURRENT AGENDA.
THE COUNCIL MAY NOT DISCUSS THESE ITEMS, BUT MAY RESPOND WITH FACTUAL OR POLICY INFORMATION.
THE COUNCIL MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA.
AND JUST AS A REMINDER, AS YOU, YOU APPROACH THE PODIUM, PLEASE DO NOT TOUCH OR YELL INTO THE MICROPHONE.
AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO ADD, UH, THE CITY OF PLANO AND THIS COUNCIL TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR FROM OUR CITIZENS VERY SERIOUSLY.
WE ALWAYS WELCOME FEEDBACK ON HOW WE CAN MAKE OUR COMMUNITY BETTER.
WE TAKE SERIOUSLY OUR ROLE AS THE CITY GOVERNMENT AND THE IMPORTANCE OF RESPECTING OUR CITIZENS' TIME AND TAXPAYERS' RESOURCES.
WE STRIVE TO CONDUCT OURSELVES WITH EXCELLENCE AND FOCUS OUR AGENDA ON CITY BUSINESS.
AND IN RETURN, WE ASK THAT THOSE THAT COME BEFORE US PROVIDE THE SAME LEVEL OF RESPECT.
OUR FIRST SPEAKER THIS EVENING IS SHARON.
OVERALL, THE SCIENCE IS OFTEN BEHIND WHAT COMMON SENSE TELLS US.
A FRIEND OF MY HUSBAND'S WAS JUST DIAGNOSED WITH AN ADRENAL GLAND TUMOR.
ADRENAL CANCER HAPPENS MORE OFTEN WITH PEOPLE WITH INHERITED SYNDROMES THAT INCREASE THE RISK OF CERTAIN CANCERS.
SHE KNOWS THAT NEITHER HER PARENTS OR ANY OF HER GRANDPARENTS HAS EVER BEEN DIAGNOSED WITH ANY OF THE SYNDROMES ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
ONLY WHEN YOU PUT IN CAN SMOKING CAUSE ADRENAL GLAND TUMORS.
DOES IT SAY SMOKING HAS BEEN SUGGESTED AS A RISK FACTOR FOR ADRENAL CORTICAL CARCINOMA? THE MAYO CLINIC DOES STATE THAT ADRENAL GLAND TUMORS OCCUR WHEN SOMETHING CREATES CHANGES IN THE D N A OF AN ADRENAL GLAND.
AND WE ALREADY KNOW THAT CIGARETTE SMOKE DOES CHANGE YOUR D N A.
WHEN I READ ABOUT ADRENAL GLAND TUMORS AND CAUSES, AND I HAD TO HUNT TO SEE IF CIGARETTE SMOKE COULD BE A CAUSE I WAS REMINDED OF WHEN MY FATHER WAS DIAGNOSED WITH KIDNEY CANCER IN 2001.
HIS DOCTOR NEVER TOLD HIM TO QUIT SMOKING.
WHEN I RESEARCHED CAUSES SMOKING WAS NOT EVEN LISTED.
AFTER A LOT OF RESEARCH WITH A DIAL UP MODEM, I CAME ACROSS A FEW ARTICLES THAT SAID THAT IT COULD, SMOKING COULD BE A CAUSE.
FAST FORWARD TODAY, IF YOU LOOK UP CAUSES OF KIDNEY CANCER, NUMBER TWO IS SMOKING.
IF HE HAD QUIT SMOKING IN 2001, MAYBE HE WOULD NOT HAVE DIED FROM LUNG CANCER IN TWO THOU FIVE YEARS LATER.
WE KNOW THAT SECONDHAND CIGARETTE SMOKE KILLS INNOCENT PEOPLE PER THE C D C.
WE KNOW THAT SECONDHAND SMOKE KILLS OVER 41,000 PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES.
THE MAJORITY OF THE DEATHS ARE FROM LUNG CANCER AND CORONARY HEART DISEASE.
INFANTS DIE FROM SSIDS, I'M SORRY, DIE FROM PRENATAL CONDITIONS.
AND 400 INFANTS DIE FROM SUDDEN INFANT DEATHS IN THE UNITED STATES AND OVER SIX DIE A YEAR FROM RE RESIDENTIAL FIRES CAUSED BY SMOKERS.
THESE ARE THE INNOCENT DEATHS CAUSED BY SMOKERS THAT ARE ATTRIBUTED TO SECONDHAND SMOKE.
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SINCE SCIENCE IS ALWAYS BEHIND ON CAUSES, THERE ARE PROBABLY THOUSANDS MORE EACH YEAR THAT ARE CAUSED BY SMOKERS THAT ARE NOT ATTRIBUTED TO IT.WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS PROTECT THE INNOCENT PEOPLE FROM SECONDHAND SMOKE.
YOUR JOB IS TO PROTECT THE INNOCENT PEOPLE IN 20 OR IN 10 OR 20 YEARS WHEN SCIENCE CATCHES UP AND STARTS COUNTING THE SUDDEN HEART ATTACKS AND ASTHMA.
AND EMPHYSEMA DOES CAUSE BY SECONDHAND SMOKE.
WE, WE COULD HAVE PREVENTED MORE DEATHS IF WE HAD PASSED LAWS OUTLAWING SECONDHAND SMOKE EXPOSURE TO NON-SMOKERS.
NON-SMOKERS SHOULD NEVER UNWILLINGLY BE EXPOSED TO SECONDHAND SMOKE.
THE NEXT SPEAKER IS ALEXANDER STEIN.
MY NAME IS ALEXANDER STEIN AND I'M AN ELLEN ART SCHOOL TEACHER.
I WANT TO APOLOGIZE THAT I HAVE TO USE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE TO COMMUNICATE THIS EVENING, BUT MY THROAT IS VERY SORE FROM SOME NASTY GONORRHEA IN MY THROAT THAT I GOT FROM A GLORY HOLE DURING MY TRIP TO EL PASO TO HELP ALL THE SEX TRAFFICKERS AT THE BORDER.
SOMETHING YOU MAY NOT KNOW ABOUT ME IS NOT ONLY DO I HAVE ONE OF THE BIGGEST PACKAGES IN DALLAS COUNTY, BUT I AM ALSO A TEACHER.
AND I'M COMING HERE TODAY NOT TO SPEAK ABOUT MY ANACONDA, BUT TO WARN YOU GUYS ABOUT THE UPCOMING SCHOOL YEAR.
EVER SINCE ELON MUSK TOOK OVER TWITTER, HE HAS AMPLIFIED THE VOICES OF WHITE SUPREMACISTS LIKE TIM POOL AS WELL AS OTHER RACIST RIGHT WINGERS.
IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME, THE ONLY PROOF YOU NEED IS THE ACCOUNT LIPS OF TICK TALK, WHICH CONSTANTLY TRIES TO EXPOSE HARDWORKING TEACHERS THAT ARE JUST TRYING THEIR HARDEST TO TEACH THEIR STUDENTS ABOUT MASTURBATION AND SEX AT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL LEVEL.
AND AS A FELLOW TEACHER AT AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, IT'S TOTALLY INAPPROPRIATE.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN IS INAPPROPRIATE? WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT'S INAPPROPRIATE? IT'S INAPPROPRIATE.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN IS INAPPROPRIATE? I I'M A FIRST MEMBER, RIGHT? I'M ALLOWED COME HERE AND SPEAK SO YOU KNOW THAT.
WHERE'S THE CITY ATTORNEY? IT'S, IT'S WHO'S THE CITY ATTORNEY? IT'S INAPPROPRIATE.
WHERE'S THE CITY ATTORNEY? OH, I CAN'T COME UP HERE.
BUT YOU'RE GONNA LET TEACHERS AND DOCUMENT KIDS WITH PRIDE FLAGS.
THEY'RE GONNA LET THE TEACHER THEIR SEXUAL IDEOLOGY TO YOUNG CHILDREN THERE.
YOU'RE TRYING TO SHOVE ME DOWN.
I DON'T EVEN NEED YOUR PAN WRINKLE.
I'M JUST SAYING YOU'RE AN IDIOT.
'CAUSE I'M OUT HERE ACTUALLY TRYING TO DO SOMETHING.
I'M TRYING TO EXPOSE ALL THE PELI PEDOPHILIC TEACHERS THAT ARE GROOMING OUR KIDS, THAT ARE GIVING KIDS WITH VASECTOMIES AT 14 YEARS OLD.
WHAT ABOUT ALL THE JUNIOR RESIGNMENT SURGERY? YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT THAT.
'CAUSE YOU LIKE WHEN KIDS GET THEIR PENIS THERE.
THIS, THIS HAS NOTHING SAYING YOU GOTTA GO TO COURT.
YOU'RE LIMITING MY FREE SPEECH.
COULD YOU PLEASE, I'M ALLOWED TO SPEAK HERE AND YOU'RE LIMITING MY FREE SPEECH RIGHTS.
YOU KNOW THAT YOU'RE DOING WHERE'S THE CITY ATTORNEY? WHERE'S THE CITY ATTORNEY? IS THE CITY ATTORNEY HERE ARE ARE YOU GONNA HAVE ME REMOVED IN THE BUILDING? YOUR TIME IS UP.
ARE YOU HAVING ME? YOU, YOU'VE HAD PLENTY OF TIME TO MAKE FILED MY LAWSUIT, MAYOR, WHEN I FILED MY LAWSUIT, PLEASE, I WANNA KNOW, AM I BEING PHYSICALLY REMOVED FROM THIS BUILDING BY THIS COP? MAYBE.
AM I BEING PHYSICALLY REMOVED? AM I BEING PHYSICALLY REMOVED? YES.
I I'M BEING PHYSICALLY REMOVED.
OKAY, SO YOU AGREE? JUST, I JUST WANT THIS BECAUSE I'M GONNA SUE EVERYBODY HERE.
YOU BETTER NOT TOUCH ME, OFFICER.
I'M JUST TELLING YOU, YOU BETTER NOT TOUCH ME.
YOU'RE TRYING TO INTIMIDATE ME IN THIS ROOM.
YOU'RE LIMITING MY FREE SPEECH.
YOU GOT A LOT OF BALLS, MARILYN.
I WANNA KEEP MINE AND I WANT KIDS TO KEEP THEIR, SO LISTEN, I CAN MAKE A SCENE.
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MY CUT OFF.[CONSENT AGENDA]
ON A CONSENT AGENDA.THE CONSENT AGENDA WILL BE ACTED UPON IN ONE MOTION AND CONTAINS ITEMS WHICH ARE ROUTINE.
AND TYPICALLY NON-CONTROVERSIAL ITEMS MAY BE REMOVED FROM THIS AGENDA FOR INDIVIDUAL DISCUSSION BY A COUNCIL MEMBER, THE CITY MANAGER, OR ANY CITIZEN.
THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL ESTABLISH TIME LIMITS BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKER REQUESTS.
MS. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRO AS PRESENTED BY STAFF.
TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA, PLEASE VOTE.
NEXT ITEM, PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS
[(1)
Public Hearing and consideration of an Ordinance to accept and approve the Annual Update of the Service and Assessment Plan and Assessment Roll for the Downtown Plano Public Improvement District; levying Assessments against property within the District and establishing a lien on such property; providing for the method of assessment and the payment of the Assessments in accordance with Chapter 372, Texas Local Government Code, as amended; providing penalties and interest on delinquent Assessments; providing for severability; resolving matters incident and related thereto; and providing an effective date.
]APPLICANTS ARE LIMITED TO 15 MINUTES.PRESENTATION TIME WITH A FIVE MINUTE REBUTTAL IF NEEDED.
REMAINING SPEAKERS ARE LIMITED TO 30 TOTAL MINUTES OF TESTIMONY TIME WITH THREE MINUTES ASSIGNED PER SPEAKER.
THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY AMEND THESE TIMES AS DEEMED NECESSARY.
NON-PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. PRESIDING OFFICER WILL PERMIT PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA NOT POSTED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
RULE ESTABLISHED TIME LIMITS BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKER REQUESTS, THE LENGTH OF THE AGENDA.
AND TO ENSURE MEETING EFFICIENCY AND MAY INCLUDE A CUMULATIVE, CUMULATIVE TIME LIMIT.
SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED AND ORDERED THE REQUESTS WERE RECEIVED.
ITEM NUMBER ONE, PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE TO ACCEPT AND APPROVE THE ANNUAL UPDATE OF THE SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN AND ASSESSMENT ROLE FOR THE DOWNTOWN PLANO PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
LEVYING ASSESSMENTS AGAINST PROPERTY WITHIN THE DISTRICT AND ESTABLISHING, ESTABLISHING LIEN ON SUCH PROPERTY, PROVIDING FOR THE METHOD OF ASSESSMENT AND THE PAYMENT OF ASSESSMENTS IN ACCORDANCE WITH CHAPTER 3 72, TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE AS AMENDED, PROVIDING PENALTIES AND INTEREST ON DELINQUENT ASSESSMENTS, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY RESOLVING MATTERS INCIDENT AND RELATED THERETO, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT.
I'M THE DOWNTOWN PLANO MANAGER.
UM, I'M JUST BRINGING TO YOU THE ANNUAL UPDATE FOR DOWNTOWN PLANOS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, UH, SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN.
UM, WE'RE DOING IT A LITTLE EARLIER THAN NORMAL BECAUSE WE ARE, UM, GONNA HAVE COLIN CAD START, UH, HANDLING THE LEVIES WITH THE TAX, WITH THE TAX BILL.
SO YOU'LL SEE US IN AUGUST EACH YEAR TO TO, TO DO THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
SO DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? WE JUST APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU, UH, YOU'VE DONE FOR DOWNTOWN.
WE APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK YOU PUT INTO IT.
SO I I REALLY DO APPRECIATE IT, MICHELLE.
IT'S BEEN A GREAT OPPORTUNITY, SO THANK YOU.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS THERE? HAVE NO SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.
I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
CONFINE THE COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL.
I HAVE A MOTION, A SECOND TO APPROVE.
NEXT ITEM, ITEM NUMBER TWO, PUBLIC
[(2)
Public Hearing and consideration of an Ordinance as requested in Zoning Case 2023-003 to amend the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance of the City, Ordinance No. 2015-5-2, as heretofore amended, so as to rezone 99.0 acres of land located at the southeast corner of Legacy Drive and Parkwood Boulevard in the City of Plano, Collin County, Texas, from Commercial Employment to Planned Development-62-Commercial Employment; directing a change accordingly in the official zoning map of the City; and providing a penalty clause, a repealer clause, a savings clause, a severability clause, a publication clause, and an effective date. Petitioner: EDS Legacy Partners, LLC (Request to table to September 11, 2023, City Council Meeting.)
]HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE AS REQUESTED IN ZONING CASE 2023 DASH THREE TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY, ORDINANCE NUMBER 2015 DASH FIVE DASH TWO AS HERETOFORE AMENDED.SO AS TO REZONE, 99 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF LEGACY DRIVE AND PARKWOOD BOULEVARD IN THE CITY OF PLANO, COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS.
FROM COMMERCIAL EMPLOYMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT 62 COMMERCIAL EMPLOYMENT.
DIRECTING A CHANGE ACCORDINGLY IN THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP OF THE CITY, PROVIDING A PENALTY CLAUSE, A REPEAL CLAUSE, A SAVINGS CLAUSE, A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, A PUBLICATION CLAUSE, AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
I'M ERIC HILL, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR PLANNING.
THIS ITEM IS REQUESTED TO BE TABLED TO THE SEPTEMBER 11TH COUNCIL MEETING.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THANKS ERIC.
I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
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SPEAKERS? THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS ON THE SIDE.I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
CONFINE THE COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL.
MOTION TO TABLE TO THE SEPTEMBER 11TH, UH, 2023 MEETING.
HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO TABLE I.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO, PLEASE VOTE.
MOTION PASSES EIGHT TO ZERO TO TABLE ITEM THREE.
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Public Hearing and consideration of an Ordinance as requested in Zoning Case 2023-008 to amend the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance of the City, Ordinance No. 2015-5-2, as heretofore amended, granting Specific Use Permit No. 35 for Vehicle Storage on 2.7 acres of land located on the west side of Premier Drive, 600 feet south of Lexington Drive in the City of Plano, Collin County, Texas, presently zoned Corridor Commercial, directing a change accordingly in the official zoning map of the City; and providing a penalty clause, a repealer clause, a savings clause, a severability clause, a publication clause, and an effective date. Petitioner: VTC Plano Rental Properties LLC
]HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE AS REQUESTED IN ZONING CASE 2023 DASH EIGHT TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY.
ORDINANCE NUMBER 2015 DASH FIVE DASH TWO AS HERETOFORE AMENDED GRANTING SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 35 FOR VEHICLE STORAGE ON 2.7 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF PREMIER DRIVE, 600 FEET SOUTH OF L LEXINGTON DRIVE IN THE CITY OF PLANO, COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS.
PRESENTLY ZONED CORRIDOR COMMERCIAL DIRECTING A CHANGE ACCORDINGLY IN THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP OF THE CITY, PROVIDING A PENALTY CLAUSE, A REPEAL CLAUSE, SAVINGS CLAUSE, A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, A PUBLICATION CLAUSE, AND EFFECTIVE DATE.
THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR VEHICLE STORAGE.
THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY COMMERCIAL ZONING WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE WEST, WHICH IS SHOWN ON THE MAP BEFORE YOU.
THIS IS THE AERIAL OF THE PROPERTY.
IT'S CURRENTLY A PAVED PARKING LOT, AND THE AERIAL SHOWS THAT THERE ARE EXISTING COMMERCIAL USES SURROUNDING, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE WEST.
THIS REQUEST IS ASSOCIATED WITH A PROPOSED NEW VEHICLE DEALERSHIP, WHICH WILL BE LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF PREMIER DRIVE.
JUST SOME HISTORY ON THIS PROPERTY.
IT WAS PREVIOUSLY USED AS OFFSITE PARKING FOR A VEHICLE.
SALES AND REPAIR USES, UH, DEVELOPMENTS IN THE AREA.
IT'S CEASED TO OPERATE IN 2017.
AND THIS REQUEST IS TO REESTABLISH THE LEGAL USE OF THE VEHICLE STORAGE ON THE PROPERTY.
OF NOTE, THERE'S A PORTION OF THE SELF STORAGE FACILITY TO THE NORTH THAT ENCROACHES ON THIS PROPERTY.
THE APPLICANT IS COMMITTED TO ADJUST THE PROPERTY LINES IN COOPERATION WITH THAT ADJACENT OWNER OR TO WORK TOWARDS REMOVING THE ENCROACHMENT.
THIS PORTION OF THE PROPERTY IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE ZONING REQUEST THIS EVENING.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ANALYSIS IS SUPPORTIVE OF THIS USE, AND THIS TABLE SUMMARIZES THE APPLICABLE POLICIES REFLECTED IN THIS CASE.
WE RECEIVED ONE RESPONSE IN OPPOSITION WITHIN THE 200 FOOT BUFFER.
THERE WAS AN ADDITIONAL RESPONSE PROVIDED FOR THE P N Z HEARING, BUT THAT WAS WITHDRAWN AFTER DISCUSSING, UH, THE ISSUES THAT THAT PROPERTY OWNER HAD WITH THEM, IN TOTAL, WE RECEIVED 16 RESPONSES, THREE IN SUPPORT, FOUR NEUTRAL, AND NINE IN OPPOSITION.
PLANNING ZONING, COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY A VOTE OF SIX TO ZERO.
THE APPLICANT IS AVAILABLE WITH A PRESENTATION AND I PROVIDE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THANK YOU.
I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION, UH, REGARDING THE, UH, THE OPPOSITION THAT, THAT THE ADJACENT RESIDENT HAD HAD MENTIONED.
UH, YOU SAID THAT THAT'S BEEN WITHDRAWN BECAUSE THOSE CONCERNS WERE ADDRESSED.
UH, COULD YOU COVER HOW THOSE CONCERNS WERE ADDRESSED? SURE.
THE ONE THAT WAS WITHDRAWN WAS THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH, AND THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT THE LOCATION OF A DRIVEWAY.
UM, THEY THOUGHT THAT THE DRIVEWAY FOR THIS PROPERTY WAS GOING TO ENCROACH UPON THEIR PROPERTY.
AND SO WE DISCUSSED THAT WITH THEM AND THEY WITHDREW THEIR OPPOSITION.
WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION.
THE ONLY SPEAKERS WE HAVE ARE THE APPLICANTS JUDD MULLINAX AND JONATHAN HARDY.
UH, JUDD MULLINIX WITH KIMLEY HORN.
13 4 55 NOEL ROAD, DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 4 0.
UM, THANK YOU GUYS FOR HEARING US TONIGHT.
THIS IS FOR A, A TESLA SALES SERVICE AND DELIVERY FACILITY.
YOU CAN SEE HERE, UM, ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SCREEN THERE, YOU SEE THE EXISTING AERIAL WITH WHERE THE PROPERTY IS.
UH, THIS S U P IS FOR THE, THE LEFT SIDE, WHICH IS JUST THE VEHICLE USE.
IT'S DIRECTLY TIED TO THE SERVICE CENTER, WHICH IS ABOUT 60,000 SQUARE FEET TO THE RIGHT.
UM, YOU CAN SEE A RENDERING DOWN AT THE BOTTOM OF THE ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING AND OTHER THINGS WE'RE DOING TO THE EXISTING PARKING LOT, THE EXISTING
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FACILITY THERE.HERE'S JUST A BULLET OF THAT RENDERING.
AND THEN HERE'S A FEW SCREENSHOTS OF THE NEW FACILITY THAT'LL BE ADJACENT TO IT.
SO I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ON THE SITE.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU.
NEXT SPEAKER, JONATHAN? YEAH, I JUST OKAY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU GOT? I, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY.
I'M JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALRIGHT.
I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
CONFINE THE COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL.
HAVE A MOTION IS SECOND TO APPROVE.
UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE, PLEASE VOTE.
[(4)
Public Hearing and consideration of an Ordinance as requested in Zoning Case 2023-010 to amend Article 5 (Variances and Appeals of Administrative Decisions) and Article 7 (Nonconformities) of the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance of the City, Ordinance No. 2015-5-2, as heretofore amended, to adopt a broadly applicable process for making determinations of status as a nonconforming use or structure and for appealing those determinations; and providing a penalty clause, a repealer clause, a savings clause, a severability clause, a publication clause, and an effective date. Petitioner: City of Plano
]ITEM NUMBER FOUR, PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION.PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE AS REQUESTED IN ZONING CASE 2023 DASH 10 TO AMEND ARTICLE FIVE, VARIANCES AND APPEALS OF ADMINISTRATIVE DECISIONS.
AND ARTICLE SEVEN, NONCONFORMITIES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY.
ORDINANCE NUMBER 2015 DASH FIVE DASH TWO IS HERETOFORE AMENDED TO BROADLY ADOPT APPLICABLE PROCESS FOR MAKING DETERMINATIONS OF STATUS AS A NON-CONFORMING USE OR STRUCTURE.
AND FOR APPEALING THOSE DETERMINATIONS AND PROVIDING A PENALTY CLAUSE, A RE REPEAL CLAUSE, SAVINGS CLAUSE, SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, PUBLICATION CLAUSE, AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
LAND RECORDS PLANNING MANAGER ZONING CASE 2023 DASH 10 IS A ZONING CASE TO DEFINE A FORMAL PROCESS TO DETERMINE NONCONFORMITIES AND TO APPEAL THOSE DETERMINATIONS.
THE COMMISSION CALLED A PUBLIC HEARING ON MAY 15TH, 2023 TO INITIATE THIS CASE.
UH, THE ZONING ORDINANCE OUTLINES THREE INSTANCES IN WHICH A NON-CONFORMITY MAY EXIST AT THE TIME OF INITIAL ZONING.
SO THE USE EXISTED BEFORE THE LAND WAS EVER REZONED.
THE AT A CHANGE OF ZONING, WHICH IS THE MOST COMMON, UH, WHERE THE USE WAS A CONFORMING USE.
BUT THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS CHANGED SINCE ESTABLISHMENT OR ANNEXATION, WHICH IS SIMILAR TO INITIAL ZONING, WHERE AGAIN, THE, THE USE EXISTED BEFORE THE LAND BECAME PART OF PLANO.
WHEN THESE ISSUES COME UP, THE CURRENT PROCESS TYPICALLY IS TO DETERMINE WHETHER THERE'S A NON-CONFORMING USE IS FOR STAFF TO RESEARCH THE SITE, PREVIOUS ZONING REGULATIONS, SITE PLANS, AND CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY.
WE MAY REQUEST SOME INFORMATION FROM APPLICANTS AS NEEDED, UM, BUT IT IS DONE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS AND IS INFORMAL IN NATURE.
SO THE PROPOSED CHANGE SEEKS TO FORMALIZE THE PROCESS TO DETERMINE NON-CONFORMING STATUS AND ALSO ALLOWS APPEALS TO THOSE DETERMINATIONS THROUGH THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, WHICH IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH CHAPTER TWO 11 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.
THIS CASE WAS FOUND TO BE IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WITH LAND USE ACTION ONE AND PROPERTY STANDARDS ACTION NINE.
THERE WERE NO RESPONSES RECEIVED FOR THIS CASE AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL SIX TO ZERO.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THANK YOU.
THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.
I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, CONFINE THE COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL.
SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION IS AND A MOTION IS SECOND TO APPROVE.
UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR, PLEASE VOTE.
NEXT ITEM, ITEM NUMBER FIVE, PUBLIC
[(5) Public Hearing on the FY 2023-24 Recommended Budget and the FY 2023-24 Proposed Community Investment Program (CIP). ]
HEARING ON THE FISCAL YEAR 2023.24 RECOMMENDED BUDGET AND THE FISCAL YEAR 20 23 24.
PROPOSED COMMUNITY INVESTMENT PROGRAM.
GOOD EVENING, KAREN RHODES WHITLEY, BUDGET DIRECTOR.
WE ARE HERE THIS EVENING TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING YOUR RECOMMENDED BUDGET, WHICH TOTALS $729 MILLION AND THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT PROGRAM, WHICH TOTALS $340 MILLION WITHIN THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET.
WE DO HAVE A TAX RATE AT 41.76 CENTS PER $100, AND WE'RE GONNA GET TO THE TAX RATE.
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A COUPLE MORE AGENDA ITEMS. ANY, ANY QUESTIONS, UH, FOR KAREN? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WE DO HAVE A SPEAKER ON THIS ITEM.
AND MAYOR, MANY OF YOU KNOW ME ALREADY.
MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE 1983.
WE TOOK OVER THE HOUSEHOLD OF CHARLES DOOLEY.
MY BACKGROUND GOES BACK TO THE LATE 18 HUNDREDS.
MY GREAT-GRANDPARENTS, SAM AND ALICE GREGORY WERE VERY INFLUENTIAL.
AND CHARLES AND MAGGIE FOREMAN DOOLEY WERE VERY INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY.
WE HOPE TO STRIVE TO KEEP THIS AREA COMPLETELY WITH BEAUTIFUL, OBSESSIVE IN, IN INFORMATION, AND ALSO KEEP THE AREA AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE CONCERNING WHAT IT WAS BEFORE.
SO WE'RE ASKING YOU TO PUT THIS, THE MONEY IN FOR THE BUDGET BECAUSE IT IS NEEDED TO CONTINUE THE, UM, OAK POINT PRESERVE.
AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF SUGGESTIONS.
MAYBE WE COULD HAVE A PAVILION WITH SOME, UH, PICNIC TABLES ON THAT PARTICULAR LOT.
ALSO, THERE MIGHT BE A NEED FOR A HANDICAPPED CHILDREN PLAYGROUND, WHICH WOULD BE WONDERFUL.
IF THERE'S ANY, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
CAN YOU, UH, IS THIS ABOUT THE, THE PROPERTY AT JUPITER AND LOS RIOS THAT IS 65 12 JUPITER ROAD,
IS THAT, THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE ASKING.
IS THAT THE CITY ACQUIRE THAT PROPERTY? YES.
ITEM SS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA WAS FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE PURCHASE OF THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
SO THE COUNCIL HAS ACTUALLY ALREADY VOTED, UH, ON THAT ITEM TO ACQUIRE THAT PROPERTY.
SO THEY'VE GIVEN US THE AUTHORITY TO GO FORWARD, UH, WITH THE ACQUISITION OF THAT.
I'LL CLOSE, UH, THE PUBLIC HEARING, FIND THE COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL.
ITEM SIX, ITEM NUMBER SIX, CONSIDERATION
[(6) Consideration of a Resolution to accept the Certified Appraisal Rolls for Fiscal Year 2023-24 for Collin County and Denton County; and providing an effective date. ]
OF A RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT THE THIRD CERTIFIED APPRAISAL ROLES FOR FISCAL YEAR 20 23, 24 FOR COLLIN COUNTY AND DENTON COUNTY, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.WE HAVE RECEIVED BOTH THE COUNTIES, UH, APPRAISAL ROLLS WITHIN YOUR PACKAGE.
EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW TOTALS 57.4 BILLION AS FAR AS YOUR ASSESSED PROPERTY VALUE FOR THIS NEXT YEAR.
OUT OF THAT, YOU HAVE NEW GROWTH OF $737 MILLION AND EXISTING, THE EXISTING TAX BASE IS GOING UP $4.7 BILLION.
AND WE'RE GONNA GET INTO THE ROLE ON THE NEXT ITEM.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR KAREN ON THIS? ON THIS? GO AHEAD, RICK.
I'M SURE IT IS, KAREN, BUT THESE ARE, WE HAVE THE FINAL, FINAL NUMBERS NOW THAT YES.
THESE ARE THE FINAL, FINAL NUMBERS.
WHEN I STOOD UP, UH, IN FRONT OF YOU, I GUESS IT WAS, UH, JULY 26TH.
WE DID HAVE DENTON, BUT WE RECEIVED IT WHEN WE WERE WALKING DOWN HERE.
THIS IS TOTAL, EVERYTHING'S TOGETHER.
THIS ONE IS AN ORDINANCE OR A RESOLUTION THAT NEEDS TO BE ADOPTED.
I THINK THERE WAS A MOTION OR A SECOND.
YEAH, Y'ALL GONNA, Y'ALL ARE MEETING A MOTION PASSES EIGHT TO ZERO.
[(7) Discussion and Direction regarding Proposed Ad Valorem Tax Rate. ]
AND DIRECTION REGARDING PROPOSED AD VALOREM TAX RATE.OKAY, AS I JUST MENTIONED, WE HAVE RECEIVED BOTH THE FINAL FROM COLIN
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AND DENTON, UH, CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICTS.AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOUR CERTIFIED TAX ROLL CAME IN AT $57.4 BILLION.
THIS IS AN INCREASE OVERALL OF 10 POINT, UH, 5%.
YOU ALSO HAVE 1.1 BILLION GOING INTO YOUR TIFFS.
OKAY, THAT EQUATES TO $4.5 MILLION.
WE'LL BE GOING IN FOR THE TIPS.
WE WANTED TO BRING SOMETHING UP.
THIS ACTUALLY STARTED BACK IN SENATE BILL TWO, UH, WHEN THAT FIRST STARTED BACK IN WHAT, 20 20, 21.
ANYWAY, THIS YEAR IN MANY OTHER CITIES ARE GOING THROUGH THE SAME THING.
WE HAVE $3 BILLION IN CHAPTER 42 LAWSUITS.
WHAT THESE ARE, IS THE COMPANIES, THE MAJORITY OF THEM ARE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.
THEY'VE GONE AND THEY PROTESTED THROUGH THE A R B.
THE A R B HAS DECIDED ONE WAY AND THEY STILL DIDN'T LIKE IT.
SO THEY ARE PROTESTING THEIR VALUES THROUGH A LAWSUIT.
SO RIGHT NOW, WE DO HAVE $3 BILLION IN THAT.
THIS DOES GO INTO YOUR EFFECTIVE TAX OR NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE.
THIS IS AN INCREASE OF 50% OVER LAST YEAR.
ALL THE OTHER CITIES ARE EXPERIENCING THE SAME THING.
WHAT WILL HAPPEN ON THIS IS WE'VE ALREADY INCLUDED IT IN THE CALCULATION THEY HAVE UNTIL SEPTEMBER 15TH TO GO FILE THEIR LAWSUIT.
THEN WHAT HAPPENS IS, SAY I'M A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY AND THE CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT SAYS, UH, MY PROPERTY'S WORTH A MILLION DOLLARS, BUT I DISAGREE WITH IT AND I ONLY THINK IT'S WORTH $300 MILLION.
THEY CAN GO AND FILE THE LAWSUIT.
WHAT IS CONCERNING FOR US, THEY'RE ONLY HAVING TO PAY TAXES ON WHAT THEY THINK IT IS UNTIL THE LAWSUIT GOES THROUGH THE SYSTEM.
SO WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE Y'ALL AWARE THAT WE ARE HAVING SIZABLE INCREASES AND SO IS EVERYBODY ELSE WITH THE LAWSUITS.
OKAY, AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU HAVE $221.7 MILLION GOING IN FOR PROPERTY TAXES.
THIS IS EXCLUDING WHAT'S GOING IN FOR YOUR TIFS AND EXCLUDING THE 65 AND OVER CALCULATION.
ALSO THAT IN THIS ALSO INCLUDES $737 MILLION IN NEW CONSTRUCTION GOING IN YOUR TAXABLE VALUE, THE $737 MILLION FOR NEW GROWTH, 9% WAS FOR YOUR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
LAST YEAR WAS, THAT WAS 12% THIS YEAR.
COMMERCIAL ACCOUNTS FOR 91% OF THE NEW GROWTH LAST YEAR WAS 88% ON YOUR EXISTING PROPERTY VALUE, THAT 4.7 BILLION, THE MAJORITY OF IT IS 63% ON RESIDENTIAL ACCOUNTS.
LAST YEAR, THAT WAS 68% COMMERCIAL ACCOUNTS FOR 37% OF YOUR EXISTING PROPERTY VALUE GOING ON.
LAST YEAR WAS 32% RESIDENTIAL VERSUS COMMERCIAL.
YOU'LL SEE BEFORE COVID WE WERE AT 53 47 AFTER COVID WITH RESIDENTIAL, EVERYBODY'S MOVING INTO THIS MARKET AND IT HAS THE RESIDENTIAL HOMES, THE MARKET VALUES GOING UP AND UP AND UP.
SO THAT HAS TURNED THE TA TABLES ON.
NOW 50% OF OUR REVENUES COMING IN FROM RESIDENTIAL SIDE VERSUS 50 ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE.
THIS IS ANOTHER WAY TO LOOK AT THIS.
OUT OF THAT $221 MILLION, 49.7% OR 110 MILLION IS COMING IN FROM YOUR SINGLE FAMILY.
THE COMMERCIAL IS THE ORANGE BOX.
THAT IS YOUR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
THE CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT COMMERCIAL PROPERTY ALSO INCLUDES MULTIFAMILY.
YOUR MULTIFAMILY IS THE GREEN BOX, AND THEY NOW ARE PAYING IN 26.3 MILLION OR 11.9%, WHEREAS LAST YEAR THEY WERE PAYING 24 OR 11.6.
LET'S GET INTO THE TAX RATE REAL QUICK.
WE FOLLOW, OF COURSE, THE STATE OF TEXAS FOLLOWS TRUTH AND TAXATION.
PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW ABOUT THEIR INCREASES IN THEIR PRICE PROPERTY VALUES,
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AND TO BE NOTIFIED OF THEIR ESTIMATED TAXES.A TAXING UNIT MUST PUBLISH IT'S NO NEW TAX RATE AND VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE BEFORE ADOPTING AN ACTUAL TAX RATE.
AND WE'RE GONNA GET TO THAT HERE IN A MINUTE.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IN A MINUTE.
A TAXING UNIT MUST ALSO PUBLISH SPECIAL NOTICES AND HOLD ONE PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE ADOPTING THE TAX RATE.
AND THEN A TAXING UNIT IS REQUIRED TO HOLD AN ELECTION TO APPROVE A TAX RATE THAT GOES OVER YOUR VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE.
WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT TAX RATES GOING ON, AND I'M ACTUALLY GONNA TALK ABOUT A THIRD ONE HERE IN A MINUTE THAT WE'VE NEVER REALLY DEALT WITH, BUT A LOT OF THE CITIES ARE DOING IT THIS YEAR.
AND I'LL EXPLAIN WHY HERE IN A MINUTE.
THE NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE, WHICH IS FORMERLY THE EFFECTIVE TAX RATE, IS A CALCULATED RATE THAT PROVIDES THE TAXING ENTITY WITH THE SAME AMOUNT OF REVENUE IT RECEIVES IN THE YEAR BEFORE ON BOTH PROPERTIES.
IT DOES NOT INCLUDE NEW CONSTRUCTION.
IF YOUR PROPERTY RISES, YOUR NO NEW REVENUE RATE WILL GO DOWN AND VICE VERSA.
SO BACK WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE GREAT ECONOMIC RECESSION AND OUR PROPERTIES DID GO DOWN, OUR EFFECTIVE TAX RATE AT THAT TIME DID GO UP.
THE RESULTING TAX RATE SHOWS THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN LAST YEAR'S REVENUE AND THE CURRENT YEAR'S APPRAISED PROPERTY VALUE.
YOUR NO NEW REVENUE RATE RIGHT NOW IS 38.65 CENTS.
THERE'S A SEESAW EFFECT I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT.
PROPERTY VALUE GOES UP, YOUR NO NEW REVENUE RATE GOES DOWN, PRICE, PROPERTY VALUE GOES DOWN.
YOUR VOTER APPROVAL RATE, WHICH IS FORMALLY THE ROLLBACK TAX RATE, IS THE CALCULATED MAXIMUM TAX RATE ALLOWED BY LAW WITHOUT VOTER APPROVAL.
THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE PROVIDES CITIES WITH THE SAME AMOUNT OF TAX REVENUE SPENT THE PREVIOUS YEAR FOR DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS.
OKAY? SO YOU CAN GO IN AND YOU SET YOUR DEBT RATE AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE CAN GO OVER TO OPERATIONS.
YOU'RE ALLOWED AN EXTRA 3.5% TO GO FOR OPERATIONS.
YOU MUST HAVE AN ELECTION IN NOVEMBER IF YOU DECIDE TO GO OVER THE VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE.
THE VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE IS 40.60 CENTS.
NOW, IN HB TWO, MANY YEARS AGO, OUR SENATE BILL TWO SENATE, THEY INTRODUCED A CONCEPT CALLED THE VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE, TAX INCREMENT RATE.
NOW, NOT A LOT OF CITIES HAVE USED THIS.
THE LAST FOUR YEARS YOU HAVE PASSED FORTH THE NO NEW TAX, NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE.
ONE YEAR WE DID A LITTLE BIT MORE 'CAUSE WE HAD SO MANY, UH, CHAPTER 42 LITIGATIONS.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE FORM ALLOWS YOU, IT HAS A WHOLE CALCULATION IN IT.
SINCE YOU HAVE DONE EVERY YEAR THE NO NEW TAX RATE, IT LOOKS BACK THREE YEARS, AND YOUR VOTER TAX INCREMENT FINANCING PART IS 43.55 CENTS.
NOW, LET ME SHOW YOU WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
BACK IN 2021, WHEN ALL THIS STARTED, THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE WAS 45.76.
OKAY? SO YOU, YOU GOT TO CARRY FORWARD AN INCREMENT OF NEARLY A PENNY, 2122.
ONCE AGAIN, YOU PASS THROUGH THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE.
THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE AT THAT TIME WAS 46.17 CENTS, AND WE HAD AN INCREMENT OF NEARLY HALF A CENT.
2223, WHICH WAS LAST YEAR, PASSED THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, WHICH WAS AT 41.76.
THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE AT THAT TIME WAS 43.76 CENTS.
SO AGAIN, WE HAD AN INCREMENT OF 0.0142.
WHEN YOU ADD ALL THOSE TOGETHER, IF FOR SOME REASON YOU WANTED TO ADD THAT ON TO YOUR VOTER APPROVAL RATE THIS YEAR, YOU COULD GO UP TO THE 43.55 CENTS.
SO RIGHT NOW, WITHIN THE BUDGET IS 41.76 CENTS, WHICH CLEARLY IS OVER THAT 40.60 CENTS BY 1.16 CENTS.
ANYWAY, SEVERAL CITIES ARE DOING THIS, SO WE WANTED TO
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JUST BRING IT FORTH TO YOU AND LET YOU KNOW YOU CAN GO BACK AND LOOK BACK THREE YEARS.AT THE END OF THE DAY THOUGH, WHAT HAPPENS IS THE STATE LAW ALLOWS YOU TO DO THE INCREMENT TO BE APPLIED FOR FUTURE TAX RATES WITHIN THE THREE YEARS.
AFTER THREE YEARS THOUGH, ANY OF THAT INCREMENT IS FORFEITED.
SO THIS, THIS YEAR, WE GO WITH THE 40.60 CENTS.
THAT 2021, THAT NEARLY PENNY THAT LOPS OFF, AND WE BEGIN AGAIN.
SO NEXT YEAR WE'LL BE UP HERE AND WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT 21, 22, 22, 23, AND THEN WHATEVER, UH, IS APPROVED THIS YEAR.
SO ANYWAY, SEVERAL CITIES ARE USING THIS THIS YEAR.
WE JUST WANTED TO BRING IT UP TO Y'ALL AND LET YOU KNOW YOU DO HAVE A TOOL LIKE THIS.
YOU CAN USE RIGHT NOW OUR CERTIFIED TRUTH AND TAXATION RATES.
OF COURSE, WE GOT THE 38.65 CENTS.
THAT'S YOUR NO NEW REVENUE RATE.
WE WOULD NEED TO REDUCE THE BUDGET BY $17 MILLION IN ORDER FOR THAT TO BE, UH, PASSED.
THE DEBT RATE IS SET AT 11.50 CENTS.
YOU WOULD HAVE TO REMOVE THE 17 OUT OF THE OPERATING BUDGET.
THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE, WHICH IS THE NORMAL VOTER APPROVAL RATE, WHICH ALLOWS YOU THE 3.5%, IS 40.60 CENTS.
YOU NEED TO REDUCE $6.4 MILLION FROM THE OPERATING BUDGET.
IF FOR SOME REASON WE DID THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE WITH THE TAX INCREMENT AND WENT TO THE 43.55 CENTS, IT WOULD RAISE AN ADDITIONAL $16.9 MILLION.
THE CITY MANAGER'S PROPOSED RATE RIGHT NOW IS 41.76 CENTS.
HOWEVER, THE RECOMMENDATION TONIGHT IS TO GO TO THE 40.60 CENTS.
THE OPERATING RATE THEN WOULD BE THE 29.10 CENTS.
HOW WE WOULD, HOW WE WOULD COME UP WITH THAT $6.4 MILLION IS TO, UH, DEDUCT $5 MILLION FROM THE CAPITAL MAINTENANCE TRANSFER AND CAP THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TRANSFER A $10 MILLION.
RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE SCHEDULED 11.4 MILLION TO GO IN THERE.
THIS WOULD RAISE THE $6.4 MILLION TO GO TO THAT 40.60 CENTS.
JUST GONNA RUN THROUGH A COUPLE OF SLIDES RIGHT NOW FOR THE AVERAGE HOMEOWNER, AND THIS IS USING THEIR HOMESTEADED PROPERTIES.
OKAY, 41.76 CENTS, 41.76 CENTS.
THIS IS BASED ON THE AVERAGE HOME VALUE.
OF COURSE, YOUR TAX RATE WON'T GO UP.
HOWEVER, DUE TO THE FACT THAT THEIR EXISTING PROPERTIES ARE GOING UP, IT WOULD GO UP $144.
IF WE WERE TO GO TO THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE, YOU WOULD LOWER THE TAX RATE 1.16 CENTS.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE LOWERING THE RATE, BECAUSE THE AVERAGE HOME IS GOING UP, THEY'RE GONNA SEE A HUNDRED DOLLARS INCREASE FOR THE WHOLE YEAR.
IF WE WERE TO GO AND FIND THE $16 MILLION TO CUT, OR $17 MILLION TO CUT OUT OF THE BUDGET, YOU WOULD LOWER THE PROPERTY TAX RATE BY 3 CENTS.
ONCE AGAIN, THEY'D STILL SEE AN INCREASE OF $28 BECAUSE THE EXISTING PROPERTY VALUE'S GOING UP.
IF FOR SOME REASON, AND I'M SORRY, THIS IS NOT LABELED CORRECTLY, THIS IS THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE.
WITH THE TAX INCREMENT ON IT, YOU COULD INCREASE THE RATE BY 1.79 CENTS AND THE TAX BILL FOR THE AVERAGE HOMEOWNER WOULD GO UP $211.
NOW, THE WHOLE REASON WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO DISCUSS THIS IS WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT IN, LET ME SHOW YOU THE FORM.
THERE'S A FORM WE'RE GONNA PUT IN THE PAPER, AND IT'S GOING TO GO IN ON THURSDAY.
SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE NEED TO KNOW, AND FOR THE NEW ONES, ONCE YOU SET THIS RATE, YOU CAN'T GO UP FROM IT.
OKAY? YOU CAN GO DOWN, BUT YOU CAN NOT GO UP FROM IT.
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SINCE YOU HAVE THAT TAX INCREMENT AVAILABLE, YOU COULD PUT IN THERE 41.76 CENTS.AND THEN OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, WE'RE GOING TO, OR Y'ALL ARE GONNA TALK ABOUT WHAT, WHICH WAY YOU'RE REALLY GONNA GO.
OR YOU COULD PUT IN THE NORMAL VOTER APPROVAL RATE 40.60 CENTS AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA DISCUSS OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS HOW IT'S GONNA BE.
SO THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON, UH, WE ARE HERE TONIGHT.
IT'S NOT TO DECIDE WHAT YOU'RE FINALLY GOING TO DO.
OH, AND WE ALSO NEED TO DETERMINE BY LAW, UM, WE NEED TO HAVE AT LEAST ONE PUBLIC HEARING.
THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, THOUGH, WE HAVE HAD PRETTY MUCH A PUBLIC HEARING EVERY TIME.
SO IT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION TO HAVE ONE SEPTEMBER 11TH WHEN YOU ACTUALLY ADOPT THE BUDGET, BUT ALSO HAVE ONE ON AUGUST 28TH.
SO THIS IS REALLY WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT FOR DISCUSSION ON WHAT THE TAX RATE IS THAT YOU WANT TO GO IN THAT FORM.
MARK, DO YOU WANNA ADD SOMETHING? YES, PLEASE.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU, KAREN.
AS AS ALWAYS, GREAT JOB IN EXPLAINING SOME VERY TECHNICAL, UM, CALCULATIONS THAT THE STATE MAKES US GO THROUGH.
UM, I KNOW THERE'S, UH, THERE'S ALWAYS CONCERN COUNCIL WITH BALANCING AFFORDABILITY WITH, WITH CITY SERVICES AND, AND YOU KNOW, HOW PROPERTY TAX FITS INTO THAT EQUATION, WHICH IS AN IMPORTANT REVENUE SOURCE, BUT NOT OUR ONLY REVENUE SOURCE, OBVIOUSLY WITH SALES TAX.
ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO ALERT YOU TO, AND, AND I'VE HEARD THIS FROM COUNCIL, UH, VERY SPECIFICALLY THIS YEAR, AND I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TO THE EMPLOYEES, UH, OF THE CITY.
THERE'S BEEN A STRONG FOCUS BY EVERY SINGLE COUNCIL MEMBER OF MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE TAKING CARE OF OUR EMPLOYEES AND, AND WE'RE, UH, REALIZING, UH, YOU KNOW, THE INFLATIONARY EFFECTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
I'VE ASKED OUR HR DEPARTMENT TO GO OUT AND RESURVEY SOME OF THE CITIES AROUND US.
UM, WHAT IS TYPICAL IS PLANO WILL SET THEIR BUDGET AND THEN EVERYBODY ELSE STARTS SETTING THEIR BUDGET RIGHT AFTERWARDS, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO COMPENSATION.
AND SO THERE TENDS TO BE KIND OF A ONE UPSMANSHIP, UH, WITH, WITH SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES.
AND WHAT WE FOUND WAS THE INITIAL 3% THAT WE PUT IN THERE HAS BEEN ONE UPPED BY A NUMBER OF CITIES AROUND US.
AND SO, UH, IT IS, UH, WE'RE SEEING RAISES OF, OF FOUR AND FIVE, AND IN SOME CASES EVEN UP TO 6%, UM, TO SOME OF THE SURROUNDING CITIES.
I KNOW HOW CRITICAL IT IS, UM, FOR US TO KEEP QUALITY, UM, TALENTED, EXPERIENCED STAFF MEMBERS ON HAND SO THAT WE ARE CARRYING OUT OUR, OUR BUSINESS THE WAY THAT WE SHOULD.
UM, I DO THINK THAT IF YOU'RE CONSIDERING THE MAXIMUM THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE, UM, THAT THERE MAY BE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS THAT COUNCIL MAY WANT TO HAVE ON THAT.
UM, DURING THIS BUDGET SEASON, I DO, I WANNA MAKE SURE Y'ALL ARE FULLY INFORMED ON IT.
EACH PERCENTAGE POINT THAT GOES, UH, GOES UP ON SALARIES IS $2.5 MILLION ACROSS ALL FUNDS.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT IT COSTS US TO GIVE A 1% RAISE.
AND WHILE IT MAY NOT BE ABLE TO BE ACHIEVED THIS FALL, WHETHER IT'S PROGRAMMING FOR THE SPRING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE, KNOWING THAT WE'RE IN A COMPETITIVE ENVIRONMENT FOR LABOR, KNOWING THAT LABOR IS SCARCE RIGHT NOW, AND THAT WE ARE WORKING HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE BEST FIRST RESPONDERS, THE BEST ACCOUNTANTS, THE BEST, UH, FOLKS OUT THERE, AND WE CAN PROVIDE OUR SERVICES RELIABLY.
I I THINK IT'S MY JOB TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE FULLY INFORMED WHEN YOU'RE MAKING THAT DECISION.
THAT, UM, WHEN WE GO FORWARD WITH THIS, WHILE IT WAS OUR BEST EFFORT, UM, YOU KNOW, KNOWING WHAT WE KNEW, UH, IF THE INFORMATION IS UPDATED, IT'S MY JOB TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE FULLY INFORMED AS WELL.
SO AS YOU'RE SETTING THAT TAX RATE, AGAIN, KAREN SAYS YOU CAN GO DOWN, BUT YOU CANNOT GO UP ONCE YOU SET THAT.
AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION OF THAT, I KNOW LASHAW AND HER TEAM IN IN HR ARE PULLING SOME OF THAT INFORMATION TOGETHER FOR US.
AND, UM, THAT MAY BE SOMETHING YOU WANT TO CONSIDER AS YOU'RE SETTING THE MAXIMUM RATE THAT WE'RE, UH, WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER.
AND JUST TO LET Y'ALL KNOW, I'VE ALREADY TURNED IN ALL THE PAPERWORK.
IT'S BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE STATE OF TEXAS AND IT'S BEEN SUBMITTED TO COLLIN COUNTY.
IT'S ALREADY OUT THERE FOR EVERYBODY TO LOOK AT THE, I HAVE TO FILL OUT THAT TAX INCREMENT SECTION.
SO IT'S ALREADY OUT THERE THAT YOUR VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE WITH THE INCREMENT IS THE 43.55.
SO IF YOU WERE TO PUT IT IN HERE, ONCE AGAIN, LIKE WE SAID, YOU CAN GO DOWN.
ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR, FOR KAREN ANTHONY? THANK YOU, MAYOR.
THANK YOU FOR THAT EXCELLENT SLIDESHOW, UH, PRESENTATION.
UH, THERE'S A LOT THERE THAT, THAT I'LL TAKE ADDITIONAL TIME TO DIGEST.
BUT ONE THING, UH, AS AN INITIAL MATTER IS THAT I NOTICED, UH, AND I THINK IF I'M REMEMBERING CORRECTLY, THIS MAYBE HAS BEEN A BIT OF A TREND, UH, THAT THE INTEREST IN SINKING RATE IS NOT DECREASING.
WE'RE DECREASING THE O AND M RATE, THE OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE, WHICH MEANS THAT THE PROPORTION OF OUR PROPERTY TAX REVENUE THAT'S GOING TO DEBT SERVICE, UH, HAS BEEN INCREASING OVER TIME.
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UM, AM I CORRECT THAT THAT'S A, A TREND THAT WE'RE SEEING? AND IF SO, WELL YEAH, WE'VE INCREASING THE O AND M SIDE.UM, FOR THIS YEAR THOUGH, WE KEPT IT EXACTLY THE SAME.
THAT'S WHAT THAT 41.76 CENTS IS MM-HMM.
SO RIGHT NOW IT'S IN THERE AT WHAT, 36.2 I I I GOTCHA YOU AND I'M SORRY, BUT AT THE, AT THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE, RIGHT.
UH, WE'D BE LOWERING THE O AND M, BUT NOT THE I AND SS.
AND, UM, AND, AND SO I, I GUESS WHAT I WAS WONDERING IS ARE WE SEEING A TREND OVER TIME WHERE, UH, DEBT SERVICES REQUIRING A LARGER AND LARGER PROPORTION OF OUR, OUR ANNUAL PROPERTY TAX REVENUE? AND IF SO, DO WE THINK IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE? YES.
THE, THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS WE HAVE BEEN, 'CAUSE WE HAD THAT, UH, UH, LARGE BOND RIGHTUM BACK IN 2021 THIS YEAR BECAUSE THE EXISTING PROPERTY TAX BASE WENT UP, WE DID NOT INCREASE THE DEBT RATE.
SO IT'S BEEN THE SAME THE LAST TWO YEARS.
PRIOR TO THAT, WE HAVE BEEN GOING UP, WE WERE PLANNING ON PHASING IT IN LIKE 0.25 PER YEAR.
WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE TO DO IT THIS YEAR.
BUT COUNCILMAN TO GO, TO GO BACK TO YOUR QUESTION, UM, WITH AGING INFRASTRUCTURE, AND I, I THINK YOU, YOU AND THE COMMUNITY, THE COMMUNITY IS WELL AWARE OF THE ORANGE CONES OUT THERE.
UM, I GET NOTES PRETTY FREQUENTLY ABOUT IT, BUT BEING, BEING AGGRESSIVE ABOUT, UM, KEEPING UP WITH OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, NOT A LOT OF CITIES HAVE DONE WHEN THEY'VE REACHED KIND OF THE, THE AGE THAT PLANO HAS.
SO I, I KNOW COUNCIL'S CONCERNED WITH MAKING SURE WE MAINTAIN OUR VIBRANCY AND VITALITY AND THOSE ROADS.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE SEE THE BUCKLING, WHEN WE SEE THE, THE MASSIVE CRACKS AND, UM, THE POTHOLES, IT'S, IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE KEEPING UP WITH THAT.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, UM, YOU KNOW, REBUILDING ROADS IS, IS A LITTLE LOT MORE COMPLEX THAN BUILDING A GREENFIELD ROAD.
YOU JUST, UH, I KEEP SAYING AS YOU PULL UP A PIECE OF CONCRETE, YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GONNA FIND.
AND YOU, THERE'S ALL SORTS OF ISSUES, UTILITY CONFLICTS, ALL SORTS OF THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH, BUT IT'S A MORE EXPENSIVE PROPOSITION AND WE'VE SUFFERED FROM INFLATION OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER, UH, ENTITY.
OUR CONCRETE, OUR LABOR, EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE'RE CONTRACTING FOR HAS CREATED SOME OF THAT UNCERTAINTY.
BUT I THINK TO YOUR POINT, WE HAVE SEEN MORE COMING INTO THE DEBT SIDE OF THINGS IN ORDER TO KEEP UP WITH THAT, THAT INFRASTRUCTURE.
THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION, MARK.
AND CERTAINLY WE, WE HAVE TO KEEP OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, VIBRANT.
I, I KNOW THE GREAT CHARTS THAT, THAT WE'VE SEEN.
I'M SURE WE'LL SEE PERHAPS ONE, UH, LATER TONIGHT DURING THE C I P PRESENTATION, BUT YOU KNOW ABOUT HOW MUCH IT COSTS TO GET A ROAD FROM A C BACK TO AN A VERSUS IF YOU LET IT GO TO AN F AND HAVE TO DO A REBUILD.
SO I THINK THAT'S A A A POINT WELL TAKEN.
SO I, I WOULD, UM, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE, UM, YOU KNOW, START WITH THE HIGHEST THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE, AND THAT WAY WE HAVE A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY IN CASE OF, UM, ANY DISCRE ANYTHING THAT COMES UP.
BECAUSE ULTIMATELY THIS IS NOT THE FINAL TAX RATE, RIGHT? I MEAN, WE'RE NOT THAT IS CORRECT.
ALL WE'RE DOING IS PUBLISHING, BUT ONCE AGAIN, YOU CAN'T GO DOWN.
SO IF WE'RE GOING TO, IF YOU CAN'T GO UP, I MEAN, YEAH, YOU CAN'T GO UP.
SO, SORRY,
SO I, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE START OFF WITH, AND THEN THAT WAY IT GIVES US A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY TO GO DOWN.
AND, AND HOPEFULLY, AND WE'LL BE DISCUSSING WILL BE GOING DOWN.
YEAH, WE WILL, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THAT BUDGET WORK SESSION.
WE GOT A WHOLE SECTION TO DISCUSS THE PROPERTY TAX RATE WITHIN THAT.
AND OF COURSE, WE'LL PROBABLY BE DISCUSSING IN AUGUST 28TH TOO.
THAT, THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION, MAYOR.
DON'T, DON'T MAKE ME REPEAT IT.
MAYOR, BEFORE WE MOVE ON THAT MARK, LEMME ASK, BECAUSE I, I KNOW THAT KAREN SAID YOU DID ORIGINALLY PROPOSE 41.76.
ARE YOU, ARE YOU STILL PROPOSING THAT FOR US, OR, OR DO YOU THINK THE 43, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT SURE, CAN WE HAVE OUR BUDGET IN SESSION THIS WEEK OR, RIGHT.
UH, COUNCILMAN EVEN AT THE, AT THE 41 76, UH, WAS THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL AND THAT DID NOT REQUIRE, UM, ANY CUTS.
I, IF, IF COUNCIL DIRECTS 41 76, I'M NOT GONNA COMPLAIN ABOUT THAT AT ALL.
UH, I'LL, I'LL FIND WAYS TO MAKE THAT WORK.
I DO THINK THAT THE SALARY, UH, SURVEY INFORMATION IS, IS VERY IMPORTANT.
AND SINCE SALARIES ARE TYPICALLY 60 TO 70% OF OUR ENTIRE BUDGET SINCE WE'RE A SERVICE INDUSTRY, I THINK IT'S, IT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE KEEP UP.
UM, BUT AGAIN, THERE'S MORE THAN ONE WAY TO GO ABOUT THAT.
AND EVEN WITHIN THE 41 76 OF COUNCIL DIRECTS, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE, WE NEED TO SHIFT SOME THINGS AROUND TO, TO FIND WAYS TO SHIFT SOME OF THAT TOWARDS COMPENSATION.
BUT 41 76, I, I THINK I'M STILL COMFORTABLE WITH AS A, AS A RECOMMENDATION, BUT I THINK THAT THE 43, 35 OR FOUR, THAT 43 55, YEAH, 43 55 GIVES ADDITIONAL FLEXIBILITY
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FOR COUNCIL.SO, AND, AND I, AND I APPRECIATE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE TALKED EXTENSIVELY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BEING SURE THAT OUR PUBLIC SAFETY FOLKS ARE, YOU KNOW, WELL TAKEN CARE OF AND, AND WE KEEP THE TALENT THAT WE HAVE.
SO FROM WHAT I HEAR YOU SAYING, POSSIBILITY WE MIGHT BE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY DOING SOME THINGS, AND IF WE HAD A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEX ROOM IN THERE, THERE'S A BETTER POSSIBILITY TO DO THAT.
SO, UH, FIRST I WANNA SAY THAT I ABSOLUTELY AGREE THAT TAKING CARE OF OUR EMPLOYEES IS, IS A HIGH PRIORITY.
YOU KNOW, CITY MANAGER, ISRAELSON AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS.
I THINK, UH, EVEN AT THAT VOTER APPROVAL RATE OF, OF 40.60, THERE, THERE ARE SOME THINGS WE CAN DO.
I BELIEVE THE BUDGET CURRENTLY INCLUDES, UH, $2 MILLION TO POTENTIALLY, UH, IMPLEMENT, UH, A COMPENSATION PHILOSOPHY STUDY OR BEGIN IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT, YOU KNOW, AT THAT RATE OF $2.5 MILLION PER 1% THAT, YOU KNOW, BY ITSELF, IF WE WERE TO IMMEDIATELY DEPLOY, IT WOULD BE A 0.8% INCREASE.
THAT WOULD GET US UP TO, TO 3.8.
THE OTHER, UM, THE OTHER THING WE CAN LOOK AT, OF COURSE, IS THAT, UH, BECAUSE THE BUDGET IS A RISK MODEL AND BECAUSE, UH, WE, WE TRY TO BUDGET CAUTIOUSLY, IT, IT IS TYPICALLY THE CASE.
IN FACT, I, I THINK IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE CASE SINCE I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL THAT OUR, UH, UH, EXPENSES COME IN, UH, SOMEWHAT LESS THAN WE'VE BUDGETED THEM AT.
UH, AND OUR, OUR REVENUES TYPICALLY COME IN HIGHER THAN WE BUDGETED THEM.
W WHICH, YOU KNOW, IN APPROPRIATE MEASURE IS A GOOD THING BECAUSE IT MEANS THAT WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT BUDGETING, YOU KNOW, TO THE, TO THE POINT WHERE ONE THING UNEXPECTED HAPPENS AND WE DON'T HAVE MONEY TO, TO KEEP THE LIGHTS ON TOMORROW.
SO WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANNA GET THERE.
BUT THE, THE POINT IS, UH, WE MAY HAVE, UH, WE HAVE THE 2 MILLION CURRENTLY, WE MAY HAVE TYPICALLY DO HAVE SURPLUSES AS THE YEAR GOES ALONG.
THAT COULD, UM, POTENTIALLY ENABLE US TO DO A MID-YEAR PAY RAISE, UM, IN, IN ADDITION TO A 3.8% PAY RAISE.
AND THERE MAY ALSO BE OTHER THINGS THAT WE COULD MOVE AROUND, UH, IN, IN THE BUDGET THAT MIGHT, UM, FACILITATE THAT.
UH, JUST A A, A SHORT DISCUSSION ON, UM, THE, UH, THE IDEA OF, OF WHAT STATE LAW ALLOWS US TO DO OF TAKING THAT INCREMENT OF WHERE WE WERE UNDER THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE IN PRIOR YEARS AND USING IT TO GO OVER THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE FOR THIS YEAR.
UM, I'M SURE THAT, THAT EVERYONE HAS SEEN THE SPREADSHEETS THAT, UH, CITY MANAGER ISRAEL SENT HAVE BEEN SENT OUT THAT, UH, HAVE BEEN SENDING OUT THAT ARE RESPONSES TO QUESTIONS, UH, THAT I'VE BEEN ASKING GOING