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THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TONIGHT,
[CALL TO ORDER]
AUGUST 7TH, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AT 7 0 5.IF YOU WOULD PLEASE RISE AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST.
THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING IS TO ALLOW UP TO THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER WITH 30 TOTAL MINUTES ON ITEMS OF INTEREST OR CONCERN AND NOT ON ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE CURRENT AGENDA.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MAY NOT DISCUSS THESE ITEMS BUT MAY RESPOND WITH FACTUAL OR POLICY INFORMATION.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA.
PRESIDING OFFICER MAY MODIFY THESE TIMES IS DEEMED NECESSARY.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? NO, WE DO NOT.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
THE CONSENT AGENDA WILL BE ACTED UPON IN ONE MOTION AND CONTAINS ITEMS WHICH ARE ROUTINE AND TYPICALLY NON-CONTROVERSIAL ITEMS MAY BE REMOVED FROM THIS AGENDA FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION BY COMMISSIONERS OR STAFF.WOULD ANY STAFF MEMBER OR COMMISSIONER WANNA REMOVE AN ITEM FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA? I MOVE.
WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS SUBMITTED.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROSKY WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HONG
THAT ITEM, THE CONSENT CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO.
I THINK BEFORE WE MOVE INTO THE INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION ITEMS, WE'RE GONNA MODIFY THE ORDER.
AND SO IF YOU WANNA START WITH NUMBER SIX, LET'S DO SIX, SEVEN, AND EIGHT AND THEN WE'LL DRAW 'EM BACK TO ONE A AND ONE B ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS, UNLESS INSTRUCTED OTHERWISE BY THE CHAIR, SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED UPON IN THE ORDER REGISTRATIONS ARE RECEIVED.
APPLICANTS ARE LIMITED TO A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES OF PRESENTATION TIME WITH A FIVE MINUTE REBUTTAL IF NEEDED.
REMAINING SPEAKERS ARE LIMITED TO 30 TOTAL MINUTES OF TESTIMONY TIME WITH THREE MINUTES ASSIGNED PER SPEAKER.
THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY MODIFY THESE TIMES AS DEEMED NECESSARY.
ADMINISTRATIVE CONSIDERATION ITEMS MUST BE APPROVED IF THEY MEET CITY DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, LEGISLATIVE CONSIDERATION ITEMS, OR MORE DISCRETIONARY EXCEPT IS CONSTRAINED BY LEGAL CONSIDERATIONS.
[6. (PM) Public Hearing - Replat: Classic BMW Addition, Block 1, Lot 1R - New vehicle dealer on one lot on 23.6 acres located at the northeast corner of the Dallas North Tollway and Spring Creek Parkway. Zoned Commercial Employment with Specific Use Permit No. 539 for New Car Dealer and located within the Dallas North Tollway Overlay District. Project #R2023-021. Applicant: VHC, LLC (Administrative consideration)]
PUBLIC HEARING REPL CLASSIC B M W EDITION BLOCK ONE LOT ONE R NEW VEHICLE DEALER ON ONE LOT ON 23.6 ACRES LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE DALLAS, NORTH DALLAS TOLLWAY AND SPRING CREEK PARKWAY ZONE COMMERCIAL EMPLOYMENT WITH SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 5 39 FOR NEW DEALER AND LOCATED WITHIN THE DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY OVERLAY DISTRICT.THIS IS FOR ADMINISTRATIVE CONSIDERATION.
I'M PARKER MCDOWELL, PLANNER WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
STAFF RECOMMENDS THE ITEMS SUBMITTED FOR APPROVAL.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF TECHNICAL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'LL OPEN THE PIPE HERE.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? UH, NO.
I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
CONFINED DISCUSSION COMMISSION.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
WE APPROVE ITEM SIX AS PRESENTED A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RATLIFF.
SORRY, UH, MR. BERNOFF WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BRONSKI TO APPROVE ITEM SIX AS SUBMITTED, PLEASE VOTE THAT ITEM CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO.
I'LL TRY TO DO BETTER WATCHING THAT FOR, FOR QUESTIONS.
DID YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANY THOUGH, RIGHT? NO.
[7. (RP) Public Hearing - Revised Preliminary Plat & Preliminary Replat: 12th Street at Grade Station, Block A, Lot 1, and Block B, Lot 1- Transit center/station on two lots on 4.3 acres located at the southeast corner of K Avenue and 12th Place. Zoned Light Commercial with Specific Use Permit No. 166 for Transit Center/Station. Projects #RPP2022-002 and #PR2022-019. Applicant: City of Plano and Dallas Area Rapid Transit (Administrative consideration)]
PUBLIC HEARING REVISED PRELIMINARY PLATT AND PRELIMINARY RE PLAT 12TH STREET AT GRADE STATION BLOCK A LOT ONE AND BLOCK B LOT ONE TRANSIT CENTER STATION ON TWO LOTS ON 4.3 ACRES LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF KAY AVENUE AND 12TH PLACE ZONED LIKE COMMERCIAL WITH SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 1 66 FOR TRANSIT CENTER STATION APPLICANT IS CITY OF PLANO AND DALLAS AREA RAPID TRANSIT.THIS IS FOR ADMINISTRATIVE CONSIDERATION.
MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, I'M RAHA TI LEAD PLANNER WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE
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RE REVISED PRELIMINARY PLATT AND PRELIMINARY RE PLAT, UH, SUBJECT TO ADDITION AND OR ALTERATIONS TO THE ENGINEERING PLANS AS REQUIRED BY THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ITEM? TECHNICAL QUESTIONS.
SEEING NONE, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? NO, WE DO NOT.
ALRIGHT, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS ITEM, UM, SUBJECT TO ADDITIONS AND OR ALTERATIONS TO THE ENGINEERING PLANS AS REQUIRED BY THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
SO I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BRUNO FOR THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ALI TO APPROVE ITEM SEVEN AS SUBMITTED, UH, BY STAFF.
AND THAT ITEM CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO.
[8. (KC) Public Hearing - Preliminary Replat & Revised Site Plan: Pitman Corners Addition, Block 3, Lot 11 - Car wash on one lot on 1.3 acres located on the east side of Custer Road, 558 feet north of 15th Street. Zoned Planned Development-79-Retail. Projects #PR2023-016 and #RSP2023-047. Applicant: Silver Star Car Wash, LLC (Administrative consideration)]
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, PUBLIC HEARING, PRELIMINARY RE, PLA AND REVISED SITE PLAN.PITTMAN CORNER'S EDITION BLOCK THREE LOT 11 CAR WASH ON ONE LOT ON 1.3 ACRES LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF CUSTER ROAD.
558 FEET NORTH OF 15TH STREET ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT 79 RETAIL.
APPLICANT IS SILVER STAR CAR WASH L L C.
THIS IS FOR ADMINISTRATIVE CONSIDERATION.
MS. BRIDGES STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE, UM, PRELIMINARY RELA SUBJECT TO ADDITIONS AND OR ALTERATIONS TO THE ENGINEERING PLANS AS REQUIRED BY THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
AS FOR THE REVISED SITE PLAN, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ITEM? NONE.
I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC, UH, HEARING.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? UH, WE DO NOT.
THE APPLICANT IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ON ZOOM.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WE APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY REPL SUBJECT TO THE ADDITIONS AND ALTERATIONS AS REQUIRED BY THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND THE REVISED SITE PLAN AS SUBMITTED.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RATLIFF, THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BRUNO, IT'S NOT A RACE GUYS.
UH, TO, UH, APPROVE ITEM EIGHT, UM, PER STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, PLEASE VOTE.
AND THAT ITEM CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO.
[Items 1A & 1B]
AND ONE B AND WE CAN PRESENT THOSE TOGETHER PLEASE.AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE, A PUBLIC HEARING ZONING CASE.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE, A PUBLIC HEARING ZONING CASE.
REQUEST TO REZONE 19.1 ACRES LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF PLANO PARKWAY AND EXECUTIVE DRIVE FROM COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT CORRIDOR.
COMMERCIAL PETITIONER IS LOT PROPERTY OWNERS.
L L C, THIS IS FOR LEGISLATIVE CONSIDERATION.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE B IS A PUBLIC HEARING CONCEPT PLAN.
FRY'S ELECTRONIC EDITION BLOCK A LOTS ONE THROUGH 37 AND ONE X THROUGH EIGHT X AND BLOCK B LOT ONE MID-RISE RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
PROFESSIONAL GENERAL ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE ATTACHED UNITS AND HOTEL ON 16.5 ACRES LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF PLANO PARKWAY AND EXECUTIVE DRIVE, AGAIN, THIS IS ZONE COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR, I'M SORRY, ZONE CORRIDOR COMMERCIAL AND LOCATED WITHIN THE ONE 90 TOLLWAY PLANO PARKWAY OVERLAY DISTRICT.
AGAIN, APPLICANT IS UNLOCKED PROPERTY OWNERS.
THIS IS FOR ADMINISTRATIVE CONSIDERATION.
MY NAME IS DONNA SEPULVEDA, SENIOR PLANNER WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
THIS IS A REQUEST TO REZONE CORRIDOR COMMERCIAL TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT CORRIDOR COMMERCIAL TO ALLOW FOR MIDRISE RESIDENTIAL AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE ATTACHED AS PERMITTED USES SUBJECT PROPERTY IS HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW.
THIS CASE WAS DENIED BY THE P N C COMMISSION ON MAY 1ST, 2023 AND THE APPLICANT APPEALED THE DECISION TO CITY COUNCIL ON JUNE 26TH.
CITY COUNCIL REMANDED THE CASE BACK TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
THE APPLICANT HAS MADE CHANGES REGARDING OPEN SPACE AND AIR FILTRATION AND THESE CHANGES DO NOT, UM, AFFECT STAFF'S.
THE APPLICANT CHANGED THE SETBACK OF OPEN SPACE FROM 150 FEET TO 300 FEET AS SHOWN BY THE RED LINE ON THE SCREEN.
THE SETBACK BETTER REFLECTS LOCATION OF THE OPEN SPACE SHOWN IN
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GREEN, WHICH HAS NOT CHANGED SINCE THE PREVIOUS MEETING.THE APPLICANT HAS ALSO INCREASED AIR FILTRATION STANDARDS IN THE PD LANGUAGE.
THE REQUEST NOW INCLUDES REQUIREMENTS THAT EACH OUTDOOR AIR SOURCE VENTILATION UNIT MUST CONTAIN A FILTER BOX ON THE INTAKE SIDE OR FILTER HOUSING.
ADDITIONALLY, THE STANDARDS INCLUDE A COMMITMENT THAT THE FILTER BOXES MUST BE MERV EIGHT STANDARD OR GREATER.
A CONCEPT PLAN HAS BEEN SUBMITTED WITH THE ZONING REQUEST.
THE CONCEPT PLAN CONSISTS OF TWO PHASES SHOWING THE MID-RISE TOWNHOMES OFFICE, A HOTEL AND THE OPEN SPACE.
AND THE CONCEPT PLAN REMAINS UNCHANGED FROM THE MAY 1ST P N Z MEETING WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE OPEN SPACE SETBACK.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS DESIGNATED EXPRESSWAY CORRIDORS ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
AS MENTIONED IN THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS, THIS REQUEST MEETS SOME OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICIES, BUT NOT ALL OF THEM.
THIS REQUEST IS STILL INCONSISTENT WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT POLICY AND THIS REQUEST WILL REQUIRE FINDINGS.
THE MID-RISE RESIDENTIAL REMAINS UNCHANGED FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING 500 UNIT 500 AND WE UNITS AND THERE ARE SOME SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES POSED BY THE MIDRISE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THIS SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE ALSO, UM, REMAINS THE SAME.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 33 UNITS AND STAFF STILL HAS CONCERNS REGARDING THE PLACEMENT AND DESIGN OF THE UNITS.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, UM, IS CLOSE TO THE BUSH DART STATION, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 0.42 MILES AWAY.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE E H A ONE AND E H A TWO AREAS.
THE NOY STUDY HAS NOT CHANGED, BUT THE APPLICANT HAS ADDED THE INCREASED AIR FILTRATION STANDARDS AND TO PROTECT FROM THE NOISE, THE APPLICANT IS PLACING A RESIDENTIAL SETBACK, UM, A MINIMUM OF 435 FEET AWAY FROM THE STATE HIGHWAY ONE 90 FRONTAGE ROAD ADDING TEMPORARY BERMS IN PHASE ONE, CREATING BALCONY RESTRICTIONS WHERE EXTERIOR NOISE LEVELS EXCEED 65 D B A AND PROVIDING POLLUTION AND NOISE MITIGATION MEASURES.
THE STANDARDS PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT PROVIDES SOME PROTECTION FROM THE RESIDENTS, INCLUDING ENSURING INTERIOR NOISE LEVELS ARE SUFFICIENT.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING PD STIPULATIONS TO ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE RESIDENTIAL USES.
THE FIRST STIPULATION IS REGARDING TRACKS, WHICH IS UNCHANGED FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS.
TRACK ONE INCLUDES THE 501 MID-RISE UNITS, 33, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, ATTACHED UNITS, OPEN SPACE AND OFFICE AND TRACK TWO INCLUDES STANDARDS TO ACCOMMODATE A FUTURE HOTEL DEVELOPMENT.
THE APPLICANT IS ALSO PROPOSING OPEN SPACE USE AND PHASING REQUIREMENTS.
THE ONLY CHANGE IS THE 1.5 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE MUST BE SET BACK A MINIMUM OF 300 FEET FROM US HIGHWAY 75 AND STATE HIGHWAY ONE 90.
THE APPLICANT IS ALSO PROPOSING STANDARDS RELATING TO THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT INCLUDING NOISE LEVELS, MODIFIED SETBACKS, HEIGHT LIMITATIONS, F A R UNIT SIZES AND SCREENING RESTRICTIONS.
AS DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY, THE APPLICANT HAS ADDED AIR FILTRATION REQUIREMENTS SINCE THE LAST P N Z MEETING.
LASTLY, THE APPLICANT HAS ADDED PD STIPULATIONS RELATING TO SETBACKS, LANDSCAPE EDGES AND DESIGN STANDARDS.
AND, AND WE HAVE RECEIVED THREE RESPONSES IN SUPPORT WITHIN THE 200 FOOT BUFFER.
AND WE DID RECEIVE ONE DUPLICATE RESPONSE FOR A TOTAL OF FOUR RESPONSES.
WE RECEIVED 4 42 UNIQUE RESPONSES, 12 IN SUPPORT TWO NEUTRAL 28 IN OPPOSITION.
FIVE OF THOSE RESPONSES WERE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF PLANO AND WE DID RECEIVE SEVEN DUPLICATE RESPONSES FOR A TOTAL OF 49 RESPONSES.
TO SUMMARIZE, THE APPLICANT HAS MADE IMPROVEMENTS ON AIR FILTRATION AND OPEN SPACE SETBACKS.
THIS REQUEST WILL AID IN THE CITY'S GOAL OF REDEVELOPMENT IN THE US 75 CORRIDOR AND MEETS OTHER STANDARDS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SUCH AS THE MIX OF USES.
HOWEVER, OTHER POLICIES FOCUSED ON REDEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT ARE MORE CHALLENGED BY THIS REQUEST.
AS A RESULT, THE CURRENT ZONING SHOULD REMAIN UNCHANGED TO ALLOW OTHER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
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OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE BETTER ALIGNED WITH THE LONG-TERM VISION OF THE COMMUNITY.FOR THIS REASON, STAFF DOES NOT SUPPORT THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST AND APPROVAL WILL REQUIRE FINDINGS, THE ZONING.
FORGOT TO MOVE MY SLIDE FORWARD,
AND, UM, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
WE HAVE TECHNICAL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF MR. BURNOFF.
UM, DOES THE APPLICATION CONTAIN ANY SPECIFIC, UM, LANDSCAPE PLANS FOR THE OPEN SPACE AREA OTHER THAN JUST BY DESIGNATING AN OPEN SPACE? UM, IF APPROVED, A LANDSCAPE PLAN WILL COME IN WITH THE SITE PLAN FOR REVIEW.
SO WE DON'T HAVE ONE AT THIS TIME.
SO IF THE SITE PLAN IN THE FUTURE WOULD, WOULD, WOULD CONTAIN THAT? YES.
WE'LL, WE WILL REQUEST A LANDSCAPE PLAN.
BECAUSE I NOTICED THAT THE, THE APPLICATION DOES CONTAIN LANDSCAPE SPECIFICS FOR THE BERMS, FOR THE, THE STREETS SETBACK AREAS AND FOR THE WEST PROPERTY LINE, BUT NOT FOR THE OPEN SPACE.
IF APPROVED WHEN WE RECEIVE THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, WE WILL REVIEW THE PD STIPULATIONS.
NOW WHAT PHASE, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE OFFICE BUILDING IS IN PHASE TWO, IS THAT CORRECT? OF CONSTRUCTION? UM, LET ME BACK UP.
MR. HILL, IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH.
SO PHASE ONE IS 260 MIDRISE UNITS.
THE REQUIRED OPEN SPACE AND A MINIMUM OF 33 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE ATTACHED UNITS.
SO WITH PHASE ONE, THERE'S NO REQUIRED NON-RESIDENTIAL USES.
SO PHASE TWO WOULD WOULD BE EVERYTHING ELSE.
PHASE TWO, THEY NEED A MINIMUM OF 70,000 SQUARE FEET OF NON-RESIDENTIAL, WHICH CAN BE IN PHASE ONE OR PHASE TWO OR TRACT ONE OR TRACT TWO.
UM, YEAH, SO THE HOTEL IS IN PHASE TWO POTENTIALLY, YEAH.
AND THEIR CONCEPT PLAN DOES SHOW HOTEL BEING ROUGHLY AROUND THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE.
HOW MANY OF THE HOTEL IS, HAS 70,000 SQUARE FEET OF FLOOR SPACE? UM, TOTAL APPROXIMATELY MM-HMM.
I SEE MR. BROSKY AND MR. CAREY JUST, WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF FEEDBACK, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S CAUSING IT, BUT IF WE CAN MANAGE THAT, THAT'D BE HELPFUL.
UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW BAD IT IS FOR THE AUDIENCE, BUT DOWN HERE IT'S, IT'S PRETTY BAD.
SO NEXT UP WAS, UH, COMMISSIONER BROSKY ON THE LANDSCAPING QUESTION AS WELL? UM, WHEN I VISITED THE PROPERTY, I NOTICED, UH, NOT JUST IN THE AREA THAT THEY WERE PROPOSING THE, UM, OPEN SPACE, UH, WHICH I'M VERY THANKFUL THAT, UM, WE'RE ACTUALLY, UH, THEY'RE PROPOSING MORE OPEN SPACE THAN WHAT IS CURRENTLY ON THE SITE.
BUT MY QUESTION IS, THERE ARE A LOT OF MATURE TREES THAT RING THAT PROPERTY BOTH ON, UM, PLANO PARKWAY AS WELL AS ALL THE WAY AROUND EXECUTIVE.
UH, IS THERE, I KNOW, UH, WHEN I TALKED EARLIER TO ERIC, UH, THEY SAID EVERY 50 FEET WAS REQUIRED TO HAVE A TREE, BUT THERE IS NOTHING REQUIRING THEM TO MAINTAIN THOSE NICE OLDER TREES AS OPPOSED TO REPLACING THEM WITH ALL NEWER TREES LIKE, UH, OR AURORA ONE 90 IS ACROSS THE WAY.
SO THEY, THEY CAN REMOVE TREES ON SITE AND WE WILL REVIEW THAT AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS AND THEY WILL HAVE TO PROVIDE MITIGATION IF THEY REMOVE ANY TREES.
SO THEY'LL HAVE TO MITIGATE FOR EVERY TREE THEY REMOVE.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD SOMETHING.
UM, WE HAVE CERTAIN PROVISION IN OUR ZONING ORDINANCE THAT, UH, DOESN'T REQUIRE TREE MITIGATION FOR CERTAIN INSTANCES, LIKE BUILDING PADS, FIRE LANE.
UM, IF UTILITIES, IF, UM, A TREE IS REMOVED AND THAT IS GOING, THAT THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT WILL HAVE THEIR FIRE LINE AND BUILDING PAD IN THAT AREA, THEY'RE NOT SUBJECT TO MITIGATION.
HOWEVER, TREES THAT ARE, UM, LARGER THAN EIGHT CALIPER INCHES, UH, AND THEY'RE NOT LOCATED IN THOSE EXEMPT AREAS, THEY'RE SUBJECT TO MITIGATION AND THE APPLICANT CAN, UM, DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT TO, UH, MITIGATE IT THE ONE, ONE TO ONE RATIO OR PAID A MITIGATION FEE, WHICH, UH, CITY OF PLANO WILL UTILIZE, UM, TO PLANT MEDIAN TREES.
UM, SO THERE'S AN INCREASED SETBACK HERE, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT AFFECTS THE OPEN SPACE.
AND AS I REMEMBER IT, THE OPEN SPACE STILL DOESN'T
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REALLY MEET THE STANDARDS FOR NOISE.AM I CORRECT ABOUT THAT? THE OPEN SPACE LOCATION HAS NOT CHANGED.
THE SETBACK HAS CHANGED FROM 150 TO 300 FEET.
UM, AND I BELIEVE THE NOISE STUDY WAS ONLY FOR THE RESIDENTIAL.
YEAH, THE, THE NOISE INFORMATION IN THE ORDINANCE ALSO COVERS, UM, SENSITIVE LAND USES SUCH AS PARKS.
UM, IT DOESN'T REALLY APPLY TO PRIVATE OPEN SPACE, BUT THE OPEN SPACE WOULD HAVE SIMILAR NOISE, NOISE LEVELS.
UH, SO IT WOULD BE, UM, IN SOME AREAS EXCEEDING THE, THE NOISE RECOMMENDATIONS.
THANK YOU THAT IT? NO MORE QUESTIONS.
I WILL NOW OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING AND WE WILL BRING THE APPLICANT, I GUESS FORWARD.
AS A REMINDER, MY NAME'S BRIAN WOLF.
UH, UH, MY ADDRESS IS 44 0 3 NORTH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY.
I'M A PARTNER WITH BAY WEST DEVELOPMENT.
UH, I BELIEVE YOU ALL KNOW THIS PROPERTY AND PROJECT PRETTY WELL AT THIS POINT, SO I'LL TRY TO MAKE THIS FAIRLY QUICK.
UH, WE WENT TO CITY COUNCIL ABOUT A MONTH AGO.
UH, THEY INITIALLY VOTED SIX THREE TO APPROVE OUR PROJECT, BUT THAT DIDN'T MEET THE SUPER MAJORITY THAT WE NEEDED.
UH, SO THEY ASKED US TO COME BACK TO P N Z, UH, TO FURTHER CLARIFY SOME THINGS MAINLY REGARDING THE E H A.
SO THE FIRST THING, UH, THAT I WANTED TO CLARIFY IS WHICH E H A ZONE OUR RESIDENTIAL IS LOCATED IN.
I KNOW THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION OVER WHETHER OUR RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS WERE IN E H A ONE OR THE MORE RESTRICTIVE, EH, A TWO.
UH, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE IMAGE ON THE RIGHT, ALL OF OUR RESIDENTIAL UNITS ARE LOCATED WITHIN THE E H A ONE WHERE THAT USE IS APPROPRIATE, SO LONG AS WE COMPLETE THE E H A SITE ANALYSIS BY THE INDUSTRY EXPERT AND IMPLEMENT ALL THE RECOMMENDED MITIGATIONS FOR THE POLICY.
THE SECOND THING I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WAS OUR AIR POLLUTION MITIGATIONS, THE CITY OF PLANOS 2019 E H A STUDY STATES QUOTE, IT IS CLEAR BASED ON THE RECENT RESEARCH THAT THE ZONE LOCATED WITHIN 300 FEET OF THE EDGE OF THE ROADWAY HAS THE POTENTIAL TO HAVE HIGHER LEVELS OF SOME POLLUTANTS.
AS A REMINDER, WE ARE PROVIDING A 435 FOOT MINIMUM SETBACK FOR THE RESIDENTIAL.
AND OUR E H A STUDY CONCLUDED THAT OUR RESIDENTS ARE NOT EXPECTED TO EXPERIENCE HIGHER CONCENTRATIONS OF HIGHWAY BASED AIR POLLUTANTS.
DESPITE THAT LAST TIME AROUND, UH, WE ADDED LANGUAGE TO OUR PD STIPULATIONS REGARDING THE MECHANICAL VENTILATION AND WHERE IT COULD BE LOCATED, UH, AND IN WHICH DIRECTION.
UH, WE'VE DECIDED TO ADD FURTHER MITIGATIONS REGARDING THE AIR, UH, REGARDING AIR POLLUTION WITH INCREASED AIR FILTRATION.
UH, PER COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH'S REQUEST, WE'VE COMMITTED TO THE MERV EIGHT AIR FILTRATION STANDARD, WHICH IS THE SAME STANDARD AS THE RECENTLY APPROVED J PLACE PROJECT, UH, TO THE SOUTHEAST OF US, WHICH IS LOCATED WITHIN THE E H A TWO AND SIGNIFICANTLY CLOSER TO THE EXPRESSWAY.
UH, ADDITIONALLY, WE CLARIFIED OUR OPEN, UH, SPACE SETBACK, SHOWING THAT IT WOULD ALSO BE OUTSIDE OF THE 300 FOOT ZONE.
UH, THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT WAS UNIVERSAL DESIGN.
UH, ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS ASKED ME HOW WE INCORPORATE UNIVERSAL DESIGN AND INCLUSIVENESS INTO OUR PROJECT.
UM, I THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD TOPIC THAT WE HAVE NOT YET DISCUSSED, UH, AND SOMETHING WE DO QUITE A BIT DIFFERENTLY THAN MANY OTHER DEVELOPERS.
AND NOW, UNIVERSAL DESIGN CAN BE FOR ELDERLY CHILDREN, PEOPLE WITH PHYSICAL DEVELOPMENTAL COGNITIVE DISABILITIES, PEOPLE WITH SENSORY CHALLENGES, PEOPLE ON THE AUTISM SPECTRUM, OR SIMPLY SOMEONE WHO GOT HURT AND SPRAINED AN ANKLE OR BROKE A BONE.
THE IDEA IS TO IMPROVE THE ACCESSIBILITY OF THE, OF STRUCTURES BY INTEGRATING COST EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT MODIFICATIONS TO ACCOMMODATE INDIVIDUAL NEEDS OF OCCUPANTS.
I THOUGHT THE BEST WAY TO SHOW YOU WHAT WE DO, UH, IS WITH ACTUAL PHOTOS FROM BAY WEST PROJECTS AND HOW WE INCORPORATE ASPECTS OF UNIVERSAL DESIGN INTO OUR PROJECTS.
HERE'S A PHOTO OF SOME COMMON AREA SPACE AT ONE OF OUR PROJECTS.
AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE CIRCLE ON THE RIGHT WHERE WE HAVE BAR STYLE SEATING, WE ALSO INCLUDE A LOWER LEVEL SO THAT RESIDENTS IN WHEELCHAIRS CAN EASILY JOIN AND BE INCLUDED.
IN THE CIRCLE TO THE LEFT, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE TRY TO PLACE MICROWAVES, WARMING DRAWERS, REFRIGERATORS IN THE LOWER CABINETS SO THAT ANYONE CAN USE THEM.
HERE YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE HAVE COMMON AREA SINKS.
WE INCLUDE CABINET CUTOUTS SO THAT A WHEELCHAIR CAN EASILY ROLL IN AND USE THE SINK.
IN AREAS WHERE WE HAVE COMMUNITY GARDEN TYPE SPACE, WE PUT THEM IN RAISED BEDS WHERE THEY'RE
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MORE EASILY ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYONE VERSUS ON THE GROUND.IN OUTDOOR BARBECUE AREAS, WE TRY TO LEAVE OPENINGS UNDER THE COUNTERS SO THAT THEY'RE ACCESSIBLE.
WE ALSO PUT OUTLETS AT LOWER LEVELS WITHIN EASY REACH.
WE INCLUDE COURTYARDS THAT ARE NON-ACTIVE AND ARE MORE ABOUT SPACE AND SERENITY.
WE USE CALM COLOR PALETTES FOR THESE AREAS AND INCLUDE NATURAL ELEMENTS SUCH AS FLOWERS AND GRASSES.
IT'S BEEN SHOWN THAT SENSORY ELEMENTS SUCH AS SMELLING FLOWERS AND TOUCHING GRASSES IN A CALM ENVIRONMENT CAN HELP ALL CHILDREN, BUT ESPECIALLY THOSE WITH CERTAIN DISORDERS AND DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES.
IN T O D LOCATIONS SUCH AS THIS, WE INCORPORATE TRANSIT SCREENS THAT SYNC WITH TRAIN AND BUS SCHEDULES AS APPLICABLE.
IT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO CHECK THE SCHEDULE WHILE LEAVING THE COMPLEX WITHOUT HAVING TO ACCESS THEIR PHONE OR COMPUTERS.
ON THE INTERIOR UNITS, WE PUT LIGHT CONTROLS AND OUTLETS WITHIN EASY REACH.
WE DON'T DO THIS ON EVERY UNIT, BUT WE TRY TO PUT IN ROLL-IN SHOWERS.
UH, THIS USUALLY WORKS BEST IN TWO BEDROOM FLOOR PLANS WHERE THE OTHER BATHROOM HAS A TYPICAL SHOWER TUB COMBO.
AND YOU CAN SEE HERE WHERE WE ALSO, UH, PUT OUTLETS AND CONTROLS WITHIN EASY REACH.
WE PUT NEST THERMOSTATS IN ALL OF OUR UNITS TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO CONTROL THEIR HEATING AND AIR CONDITIONING FROM THEIR PHONES.
HERE YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE UTILIZE LOWER CABINETS WITH PULLOUT DRAWERS.
PULLOUT DRAWERS ARE MUCH MORE ACCESSIBLE TO USE AND ALSO A KEY COMPONENT OF UNIVERSAL DESIGN.
WE INCREASE DOOR WIDTHS WITHIN A UNIT WHEREVER WE CAN.
WE UTILIZE STEP LESS ENTRYWAYS, NOT ONLY AT THE FRONT DOOR OF THE UNIT, BUT ALSO ON ANY PATIO OR BALCONY SPACE.
AND AGAIN, HERE YOU CAN SEE THE INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF ACCESSIBLE OUTLETS AND CONTROLS THAT WE INCLUDE.
THE OTHER THING WE'VE WORKED REALLY HARD TO DO IS MAKE EVERY UNIT WHAT WE CALL A D A ADAPTABLE.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IN ADDITION TO THE ACCESSIBLE OUTLETS AND LIGHTING CONTROLS THAT ARE STANDARD IN ALL OF OUR UNITS ARE BATHROOMS AND KITCHENS ARE WIDE ENOUGH FOR WHEELCHAIRS TO BE ACCESSIBLE.
ANY WORKSPACE WITHIN A UNIT IS A D A SIZE, AND THIS IS PRETTY COOL.
WE'VE WORKED WITH OUR CABINET SUPPLIERS SO THAT WE HAVE REMOVABLE SINK BASES IN ALL OF OUR KITCHENS AND BATHS.
SIMILAR TO WHAT I SHOWED YOU EARLIER IN THE COMMON AREA SPACE.
THIS ALLOWS PEOPLE IN WHEELCHAIRS TO EASILY USE THE SINKS.
THIS ALLOWS US TO EASILY ADAPT A UNIT, SHOULD A RESIDENT OR PROSPECTIVE RESIDENT NEED IT.
IF SOMEONE'S LIFE CIRCUMSTANCE CHANGE, YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO CHANGE HOMES.
SO AGAIN, WE'VE TRIED TO SHOW YOU FROM THE BEGINNING HOW WE DESIGNED TO THE HIGHEST STANDARDS AND DON'T JUST BUILD A TYPICAL APARTMENT BUILDING.
I HOPE THIS GIVES YOU A SENSE OF SOME OF OUR UNIQUE DESIGN ELEMENTS OF A BAY WEST PROJECT.
AND I ALSO HOPE IT CLARIFIES THE E H A QUESTIONS.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
UM, MR. BURNOFF, MR. CHAIRMAN, YOUR MIC IS OFF.
UH, MR. WOLF, UM, IN YOUR OPINION, HAS THE, UH, THE MARKET FOR BUILDING OFFICE BUILDINGS IMPROVED SUBSTANTIALLY SINCE OUR LAST MEETING TOGETHER? NO.
UM, HOW MANY SQUARE FEET OF FLOOR SPACE ARE IN THE HOTEL? SEVEN.
JUST, UH, JUST UNDER 70,000 SQUARE FEET.
AND HOW ABOUT IN THE OFFICE BUILDING IF YOU BUILD IT? UH, 125,000 SQUARE FEET.
AT THE LAST MEETING I ASKED YOU IF ECONOMIC CIRCUMSTANCES WERE SUCH THAT IT WAS NOT FEASIBLE FOR YOU TO BUILD THE OFFICE BUILDING.
WOULD YOU PROCEED WITH THE PHASE TWO RESIDENTIAL UNITS AT THAT TIME? YOU ANSWERED NO, WE CANNOT PER OUR PD STIPULATIONS.
UM, ON YOUR CONCEPT PLAN, PHASE ONE, I THINK YOU'VE ADDRESSED ONE OF MY ORIGINAL CONCERNS, WHICH WAS THE BUFFERING IN PHASE ONE.
OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T HAVE A LANDSCAPE PLAN TONIGHT, BUT IS THAT, IS IT YOUR INTENTION THAT THAT WOULD HAVE A, A VEGETATIVE SCREEN ON THE TOP OF IT? IS THAT THE PLAN? YES.
AND WE'VE DESCRIBED THAT WITHIN THE PD STIPULATION.
SO THAT BERM IS PART OF PHASE ONE PER OUR PD STIPULATIONS OR SCREENING NOISE, ET CETERA, FROM THAT'S RIGHT.
I THINK IT'S, I'M GOING OFF OF MEMORY, BUT I THINK SIX FEET TALL, THREE TO ONE WIDTH, THE LENGTH OF, UH, THE BUILDING, IT LOOKS LIKE A LANDSCAPE BERM AND
SO IT, UH, I, I APPRECIATE IT.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS CLEAR AND ON THE RECORD, SO.
OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
I'M LOOKING FOR OTHER, OH, I KNEW MR. BRONSKI, YOU HAD TO HAVE A QUESTION AT LEAST ONE.
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UH, YEAH.UH, WELL FIRST I WANNA SAY, UM, I, I REALLY LIKE WHAT YOU'VE PRESENTED FORWARD AS IT RELATES TO UNIVERSAL DESIGN.
I DO BELIEVE THAT THAT DOES PROVIDE, UM, SOMETHING OF VERY SIGNIFICANT VALUE, UM, TO CONSIDER, ESPECIALLY, UH, WHEN WE CONSIDER USING THE POWERFUL TOOL OF FINDINGS TO, UM, JUSTIFY, UH, THINGS THAT DON'T NECESSARILY FIT PERFECTLY WITHIN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UH, I WAS HAVING A CONVERSATION EARLIER TODAY, UH, WITH STAFF AND I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD HELP ME A LITTLE BIT UNDERSTAND, UM, TRACK TWO, WHAT KIND OF A HOTEL CAN I EXPECT TO SEE THERE? HAVE YOU HAD ANY CONVERSATIONS? WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT PUTTING THERE? AS FAR AS A HOTEL? YEAH.
IT'S LIKELY TO BE, UM, KIND OF LIKE A MID-LEVEL HOTEL.
SO IT'S NOT GONNA BE A CONVENTION CENTER STYLE HOTEL.
IT'S PROBABLY GEARED, UM, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A, ONCE THE SILVER LINE COMES IN, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO THE AIRPORT.
UM, YOU HAVE CITY LINE, WHICH HAS ALL THAT OFFICE SPACE, OBVIOUSLY, HOPEFULLY OUR OFFICE SPACE AS WELL.
SO WE SEE IT MORE AS A BUSINESS STYLE HOTEL.
UH, SECOND QUESTION IS STILL ON TRACK TOO.
UM, SO IN THE FAR EAST IS THE HOTEL, IN THE MIDDLE IS PARKING, AND THEN THERE'S KIND OF NOTHING IN THE FAR WEST.
AND I REALIZE THAT'S FAIRLY NARROW.
WHAT DO YOU ENVISION THAT, IS THAT JUST GONNA BE VACANT LAND OR ARE YOU GONNA TAKE CARE OF THAT SOMEHOW? SO WE ACTUALLY DON'T OWN THE FAR LEFT PORTION.
SO THE ACTUAL PROPERTY LINE WITHIN THAT, WHEN YOU GO OUT THERE AND LOOK AT IT, YOU WOULD THINK IT'S ALL ONE PARCEL.
BUT OUR PARCEL IS WITHIN A, UH, A CERTAIN AREA WITHIN THE STREET BOUNDARIES, IF YOU WILL.
UM, THERE'S ALSO A BIG WATER EASEMENT GOING ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE OF THERE.
YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN PIPES OUT ON THE, ON THE SITE SINCE THEN.
THERE, UM, THE CITY IS, OR THE COUNTY IS REPLACING, UM, A LOT OF WATER PIPES RIGHT THERE.
SO WE DON'T ACTUALLY OWN THAT, THAT PORTION OF IT.
AND SO CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.
IF WE WOULD, IT WOULD'VE CREATED A MUCH EASIER SITE TO DESIGN, OBVIOUSLY, 'CAUSE WE WOULD'VE MORE SPACE.
BUT, UM, WE'RE WORKING WITH WHAT WE HAVE.
'CAUSE ON YOUR, ON THE MAP THAT I WAS LOOKING AT, IT GOES ALMOST ALL THE WAY TO SERVICE ROAD.
ON THE CONCEPT MAP, IT DOESN'T, ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE SITE, SOUTHWEST SIDE OF THE SIDE.
BUT AS FAR AS THE NORTHWEST SIDE, IT DOES, IT LOOKS LIKE AT LEAST.
IS THAT CORRECT STAFF? I HAVE SOME MICE IN HERE SOMEWHERE.
AND I THINK WE CAN, UM, MS. OTTI, IF YOU COULD CHANGE THE SLIDES BACK.
YOU CAN SEE THE, THE APPLICANT DOES HAVE PROPERTY.
I, I THINK MR. WOLFIE MAY BE TALKING ABOUT THE NORTHERN PORTION, WHICH IS UNDER CONSIDERATION TONIGHT FOR ZONING.
I THINK YOU'RE MAYBE REFERRING TO THE SOUTHERN PORTION, WHICH IS BY EASEMENTS.
I WAS REFERRING TO THAT SOUTHERN PORTION.
SO THE PORTION IN YELLOW IS, IS YOUR PROPERTY, CORRECT? THAT'S RIGHT.
SO I THINK HE'S ASKING ABOUT THAT NARROWER PORTION THAT, THAT TOP NORTHERN PART OF THAT FAR GOT IT.
YEAH, IT'S, IT KIND OF LOOKS EMPTY ON THE MAP SO IT BECOMES SO NARROW THAT IT CAN'T BE UTILIZED FROM A PARKING OR BUILDING PERSPECTIVE.
UM, AND A QUESTION THAT I HAD ASKED STAFF EARLIER, UH, HOW DOES YOUR COMPANY LOOK AT, UH, ESPECIALLY OLDER, UH, TREES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT WHEN I LOOKED AT A LOT OF THE MAPS AND I, I FRANKLY SPENT THREE AND A HALF HOURS THERE TODAY, UH, ON THE PROPERTY.
UM, SOME OF THOSE TREES DON'T LOOK SO GREAT, BUT A LOT OF THOSE LOOK VERY NICE.
AND I'M, I'M, I'M HOPEFUL THAT IF IT'S YOUR INTENTION TO DO AS GREAT A JOB AS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT WE ARE ABLE TO HOLD ONTO A LOT OF THAT.
UH, SO WHERE DO YOU GUYS, HOW DO YOU, HOW DOES YOUR COMPANY HANDLE THOSE KIND OF TREES AND THAT KIND OF SITUATION? YEP.
WE DO A TREE STUDY, UM, ON ALL OF OUR PROPERTIES, WHICH WE'LL SUBMIT TO STAFF.
UM, ANYWHERE WHERE WE CAN KEEP TREES, WE WILL.
UH, WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THIS PROPERTY IS WE HAVE A HUGE LANDSCAPE, UM, SETBACK ACROSS THE ENTIRE PROPERTY.
AND THE MAJORITY OF THE TREES ON SITE TODAY ARE, ARE LOCATED ON THE STREET EDGES.
UM, BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE'LL DO A, WE'LL DO A TREE SURVEY.
WE, AT THE HEALTH OF THE TREES HAVE AN ARBORIST COME OUT AND, AND DETERMINE WHAT WE, WE CAN KEEP.
OBVIOUSLY IT'S THE MORE MATURE TREES ARE ALWAYS BETTER, JUST FROM A PURE DESIGN PERSPECTIVE.
UM, AND THEN IT'S ALSO CHEAPER.
IT'S ECONOMICALLY BETTER FOR US MANY TIMES
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TO KEEP TREES.SO WE'LL KEEP AS MANY AS WE CAN AFTER DOING THAT ARBORIST STUDY.
AND ALONG EXECUTIVE SOUTH OF WHERE THE BERM WOULD GO, I'M GUESSING, ESPECIALLY, UH, DURING PHASE ONE, YOU'RE GONNA LEAVE ALL THOSE TREES THERE PROBABLY.
RIGHT? THAT'S, AND THAT'LL BE AN ADDITIONAL, BECAUSE, UH, WHEN I WAS VISITING WITH AURORA ONE 90 TODAY, IT WAS INTERESTING HOW MUCH OF THEIR PROPERTY WAS SOUTH AND CLOSER TO THE, UH, GEORGE BUSH THEN WHERE YOUR BERM WOULD GO, EVEN BEYOND THOSE TREES.
SO THOSE TREES WOULD NOT CHANGE.
AND PROBABLY YOU WOULD WORK TO MAINTAIN THOSE DURING OBVIOUSLY WHERE THE BERM IS AND THE GRADING THAT WE'LL HAVE TO DO TO PUSH DIRT UP TO CREATE THAT BERM.
BUT ANYTHING SOUTH OF THAT, UM, WE'D KEEP, AND WE'D PROBABLY SEED, UH, HYDRO SEED TO, TO GRASP THE, THAT SPACE AS WELL AS, UM, PUTTING SOME PATHWAYS SO THAT OUR RESIDENTS HAVE ACCESS DOWN TO, UH, DOWN TO CITY LINE.
UH, MORE A COMMENT THAN A QUESTION.
UH, APPRECIATE THE, THE WORK, UH, GIVEN THE FEEDBACK THAT WAS THAT YOU RECEIVED NONE THE LAST TIME.
MEV EIGHT IS PROBABLY AS GOOD AS I COULD HOPE FOR, UM, WITHOUT GOING INTO HOSPITAL GREAT AIR, APPARENTLY.
UH, AND JUST MORE THAN ANYTHING, HOPEFULLY THIS FEELS LIKE A, A, A GOOD EXAMPLE OF A BACK AND FORTH PUSH AND PULL MANAGING DETENTIONS, UH, BETWEEN CITY AND DEVELOPERS.
SO JUST WANNA SAY, APPRECIATE YOU TAKING TIME.
THE PLAZA GREEN HAS BEEN A BIG CONVERSATION IN THE PAST PRESENTATIONS.
WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT IT TONIGHT.
ALRIGHT, ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? NO, WE DO NOT.
WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND CONFINED DISCUSSION TO THE COMMISSION.
I, I WANNA ADD JUST ONE THING THAT, UH, OBVIOUSLY LAST TIME I, I VOTED IN FAVOR OF IT.
UH, THERE WERE SOME CHALLENGES AND I THINK THE PUSHBACK IS BENEFICIAL IN THAT WHAT WE, WHAT WE'RE WINDING UP WITH IS MAYBE A LITTLE BETTER THAN WHAT WE, UH, HAD OTHERWISE.
BUT, UH, THE UNIVERSAL DESIGN PIECE, WOW, THANK YOU.
UH, VERY BENEFICIAL FOR THE RESIDENTS, UH, WHO WILL BE CITIZENS OF PLANO.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.
UH, COMMISSIONER ALI, YOU FIRST.
UM, I ECHO AND I ALSO UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGE GIVEN THAT I THINK BASED ON OUR PAST CONVERSATIONS, WE DON'T HAVE PARTICULAR AIR MITIGATION THRESHOLDS AND WHAT HAVE YOU, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE WITH NOISE.
SO WE DON'T HAVE A TARGET FOR DEVELOPERS TO AIM FOR.
UM, SO THEM TAKING IT UPON THEMSELVES TO MEET US SOMEWHERE IS, IS APPRECIATIVE.
THE UNIVERSAL DESIGN PIECE, UH, OBVIOUSLY SPEAKS TO ME.
I HAVE TWO KIDS ON THE AUTISM SPECTRUM.
SO, UM, WHEN I THINK PLANO 2050, I THINK OF MY CHILD IN 30 YEARS.
AND IF THAT'S, UM, SOMETHING WE COULD INGRAIN INTO DEVELOPERS TO THINK RIGHT, UM, THAT FAR AHEAD, UM, APPRECIATIVE.
SO, UM, I VOTED AGAINST THE LAST TIME, UM, PRIMARILY DUE TO, UM, THE POLLUTION CONCERNS.
UM, THEY HAVE COME CLOSE ENOUGH FOR ME.
UH, LET'S SUE, WHO'S NEXT? COMMISSIONER CAREY.
AS, UM, AS, AS SOME OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SAID THAT THIS COMPANY'S WORKING HARD, UM, ON THIS, AND THERE'S A LOT OF POSITIVE THINGS HERE.
AND, UM, I GUESS FOR ME, I WISH IT WAS SOMEWHERE ELSE, BUT, BUT I'VE GOT A LOT OF CHALLENGES FOR THIS STILL, AND I, AND I WANNA TALK ABOUT 'EM.
UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT, UM, THIS CITY'S ENCOUNTERING RIGHT NOW IS OUR RETAIL IS OVERBUILT.
AND, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S GONNA BE A CHALLENGE AS THIS COMMISSION GOES FORWARD.
UM, AND AS I LOOK AT THE APARTMENTS IN THE AREA, WE'VE GOT 2,638 UNITS COMING AT US, PLUS ANOTHER SEVERAL HUNDRED AT JAY PLACE, AND SOME OTHERS I KNOW ARE ON THE HORIZON THAT ARE LIKELY TO GET APPROVED.
AND SO ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS, WILL WE DO THE SAME THING WITH MULTIFAMILY HERE THAT WE DID IN THE PAST WITH, UH, WITH RETAIL? SO I HAVE THAT CONCERN.
THE, THE, THE SECOND CONCERN I HAVE IS, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS OFFICE SPACE IS GONNA GET BUILT, AND, YOU
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KNOW, THERE'S NO, WELL, IF YOU, UH, LOOK AT SOME OF THE RECENT ARTICLES IN THE NEWSPAPER AND OTHER PLACES, THAT OFFICE SPACE IS CHALLENGED.AND SO I WONDER IF ULTIMATELY THE OFFICE SPACE DOES GET BUILT OR THEY COME BACK AND THEY SAY, HEY, GOSH, WE CAN'T DO IT.
LET'S BUILD THE REST OF THE APARTMENTS.
AND, AND I, I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT'S LIKELY.
SO I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT.
I MEAN, I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT IT NOT ALIGNING WITH RGM FIVE A R GM, FIVE B.
UM, SO I HAVE SOME CONCERNS WITH THOSE THINGS AMONG OTHERS, BUT, BUT MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS CAPTURED IN, IN WHAT, UH, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT SAYS, AND I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH IT.
AND THAT IS, IS THAT THE ZONING SHOULD REMAIN UNCHANGED BECAUSE THEY THINK THERE COULD BE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE BETTER ALIGNED WITH THE LONG-TERM VISION OF THE COMMUNITY.
AND THE REASON I BELIEVE THAT IS, IS BECAUSE JUST RECENTLY IN A SUNDAY NEWSPAPER, I SAW AN ARTICLE ABOUT ALL THE COMPANIES THAT ARE TARGETING NORTH TEXAS FOR, FOR CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS.
AND I DON'T THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER PIECES OF PROPERTY IN PLANO THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT AS WELL AS THIS.
AND WE JUST SAW THIS HAPPEN WITH, UH, WITH E D S UP THERE, AND THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT 30,000 MORE JOBS.
AND I PERSONALLY THINK FOR THE WELLBEING OF PLANO, IF IN FACT, AND MAYBE WE WAIT, AND I'VE HEARD ALL THE ARGUMENTS THAT, GOSH, IT'S BEEN SITTING THERE VACANT FOR A LONG TIME, BUT IT REALLY HASN'T BEEN THAT LONG, IN MY OPINION, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A 2050 PLAN AND BEYOND.
AND, AND I, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THERE'S ULTIMATELY A, POTENTIALLY A BETTER USE FOR THIS THAT'LL BE A BETTER ENGINE FOR OUR CITY WITH MAYBE MORE JOBS.
UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, FOR THOSE REASONS, AS, AS GOOD AS ALL THE THINGS THESE GUYS HAVE DONE, AND I, I WISH THIS WERE SOMEWHERE ELSE ELSE, BUT FOR ME, THE LAND USE HERE, THE ULTIMATE LAND USE IS THE ISSUE FOR ME.
AND IT, AND IT'S GONNA BE CHALLENGING.
I, I STILL DON'T BELIEVE I CAN SUPPORT THIS.
UM, AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY OPINION.
THANK YOU, UH, COMMISSIONER BRUNO.
UM, IN SAYING WHAT I'M GONNA SAY, I WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR THAT I AM NOT REFLEXIVELY OR FUNDAMENTALLY OPPOSED TO APARTMENTS.
THERE IS A PLACE FOR APARTMENTS.
I VOTED FOR SEVERAL CASES DURING MY TIME HERE ON THE COMMISSION THAT INVOLVED APARTMENT CONSTRUCTION SUCH AS J PLACE, SUCH AS, UH, E D S AT OUR LAST MEETING AND SO FORTH.
UM, MY THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS CASE INVOLVE, UH, CONSIDERATIONS SPECIFIC TO THIS SITE.
UM, I HAVE TO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER CAREY REGARDING THE NON-CONFORMITY WITH, UH, RGM FIVE A, FIVE B, UH, UM, I NOTED THAT THE, THE STAFF REPORT, UH, EMPHASIZED THE CITY'S LAND USE POLICIES AS, UH, UH, TO ENCOURAGING RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS IN WELL INTEGRATED AND THOUGHTFUL PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED NEIGHBORHOODS.
UH, OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ON DEFINING THE EXPRESSWAY CORRIDOR FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY, UH, STATES THAT THE EXPRESSWAY CORRIDOR IS EXPECTED TO INCLUDE A MIX OF RETAIL SERVICE, OFFICE, RESTAURANT, MEDICAL HOTEL, AND TECHNOLOGICALLY BASED USES.
UM, AN OFFICE BUILDING IS PROPOSED, BUT THREE TIMES NOW, THE APPLICANT HAS TOLD US THAT THE MARKET FOR, UH, OFFICE SPACE CONSTRUCTION IS VERY WEAK BACK IN MARCH.
HE SPECIFICALLY SAID BANKS ARE NOT AGREEING TO FINANCE THE CONSTRUCTION OF OFFICE SPACE, ESPECIALLY IN THIS PART OF TOWN.
UM, BACK ON MAY THE FIRST, HE WENT THROUGH A LIST OF NEARBY OFFICE PROPERTIES WITH HIGH VACANCY RATES.
SINCE THE, SINCE THE COVID PANDEMIC, UH, PEOPLE'S WORK HABITS HAVE CHANGED FUNDAMENTALLY THERE, THEY'RE NOW WORKING MORE AT HOME AND LESS OUT OF OFFICES.
UH, SO I, I SHARE COMMISSIONER CAREY'S DOUBTS AS TO WHETHER IT WILL BE FEASIBLE, UH, OR REALISTIC TO LOOK FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS OFFICE BUILDING ANYTIME SOON.
AND THE COMMISSIONER HAS SAID TWICE IN TWO MEETINGS THAT IF HE CAN'T BUILD THE OFFICE BUILDING, WE DON'T GET PHASE TWO APARTMENTS WITH IT BECAUSE THEY'RE TIED TOGETHER.
SO IF WE DON'T GET PHASE TWO APARTMENTS, WHAT WE DO GET IS PHASE ONE APARTMENT AND, AND THE SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED.
UM, IN TERMS OF A WELL-INTEGRATED AND THOUGHTFUL PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED NEIGHBORHOOD, I, I DON'T SEE IT HERE.
WE'RE NOT GETTING, UM, RETAIL, WE'RE NOT GETTING SERVICE USES.
WE'RE NOT, UH, WE'RE NOT GETTING RESTAURANTS, MEDICAL, OR TECHNOLOGICALLY BASED USES.
UM, THERE'S NOTHING IN THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD'VE AN INTEGRATED WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHETHER IT'S THE STARBUCKS ON THE CORNER, UH, OR A GROCERY STORE NEARBY, OR A TAILOR SHOP, OR A DRY CLEANER OR ANYTHING THAT WOULD TEND TO MAKE A COMMUNITY, UM, WITH RESPECT TO THE SINGLE FAMILY.
ATTACHED THE STAFF'S COMMENTS, POINT OUT A CONCEPT CALLED PLACEMAKING.
AND I HAVE THE DESCRIPTION OF WHAT PLACEMAKING
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IS OPEN.IT'S IN THE PACKET ON PAGE 67.
PLACEMAKING INVOLVES THE DEVELOPMENT OF PLACES DESIGNED, CONSTRUCTED, AND MAINTAINED TO STIMULATE AND PLEASE THE SENSES TO ENCOURAGE COMMUNITY USE AND TO PROMOTE CIVIC AND PERSONAL PRIDE.
BESIDES ALLOWING PEOPLE TO PERFORM ESSENTIAL FUNCTIONS SUCH AS EMPLOYMENT AND SHOPPING PLACES SHOULD BE ENJOYABLE, ENTERTAINING AND EDUCATIONAL SUCCESS IN PLACE MAKING LIES AND CONFIGURING SPACES AND STRUCTURES AND THE CONNECTIONS BETWEEN THEM IN A WAY THAT FACILITATES AND ENCOURAGES HUMAN ACTIVITY AND INTERACTION WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF COMMUNITY.
I DON'T SEE A LOT OF POTENTIAL FOR INTERACTION HERE BETWEEN THE APARTMENTS AND THE SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED.
I DON'T SEE THE, UH, POTENTIAL FOR A LOT OF INTERACTION BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL AND THE OFFICE BUILDING.
THE ONLY POTENTIAL INTERACTION I SEE HERE IS IF THE OFFICE BUILDING IS BUILT, THE HOTEL MIGHT INTERACT WITH THE OFFICE BUILDING FOR, YOU KNOW, BUSINESS TRAVEL RELATED TO THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE TAKING PLACE WITHIN THE OFFICE BUILDING.
BUT WITH NO OFFICE BUILDING, EVEN THAT DOESN'T EXIST.
UM, A BETTER, YOU KNOW, A DIFFERENT DESIGN OF THE SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED MIGHT BE A STEP TOWARD CREATING PLACEMAKING.
FOR EXAMPLE, IF THE SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED UNITS WERE CONSTRUCTED AROUND A CENTRAL, COMMON OPEN SPACE AREA, TO WHICH THEY ALL HAD DIRECT ACCESS, WHERE IT COULD BE A PLACE WHERE THE PEOPLE COULD INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER, THAT MIGHT BE A FORM OF, UH, YOU KNOW, A ONE STEP TOWARD PLACEMAKING.
FUNDAMENTALLY, WHAT I SEE HERE IS A BUNCH OF PARTS THAT DON'T NECESSARILY FIT TOGETHER, THAT ARE NOT RELATED TO EACH OTHER AND DON'T CREATE A COMMUNITY.
UM, THE STAFF POINTED OUT THAT THIS IS, THIS IS A PRIME LOCATION NEXT TO HIGHWAYS THAT, UM, UM, WOULD BE A, A PRIME LOCATION FOR A FUTURE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
AND I JUST ASSUME WAIT FOR A COMMERCIAL APPLICATION, EVEN, EVEN FROM THIS APPLICANT TO COME ALONG THAT WE COULD CONSIDER FAVORABLY.
FURTHERMORE, THE, UH, THE GREEN, THE OPEN SPACE IS NOT SCREENED FOR NOISE.
UH, THE MEASURED NOISE LEVELS ON THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED RESIDENCE THAT FACE THE OPEN SPACE ON THE NORTH AND ON THE EAST SIDE, ARE AS HIGH AS 73 AND A HALF DECIBELS.
AND THEREFORE, WE HAVE TO ASSUME THAT THE, UM, OPEN SPACE, WHICH IS OPEN SPACE, WHICH IS CLOSER TO THE HIGHWAY, WOULD, WOULD BE WITHIN THE E H A ONE NOISE AREA ANYWAY.
UM, EVEN IF THE OFFICE BUILDING WERE BUILT, IT WOULD NOT HAVE A, A NOISE SCREENING EFFECT BECAUSE IT'S NOT TALL ENOUGH.
THE BULK OF THE NOISE IS COMING FROM THE ELEVATED HIGHWAY.
THE GEORGE BUSH TURNPIKE, THE TEMPORARY BURNS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY WOULD SCREEN WHAT MINIMAL NOISE WOULD BE, UM, EMANATING FROM THE LIGHTLY TRAVELED SERVICE ROAD BELOW THE HIGHWAY.
IT WOULD DO NOTHING TO MITIGATE THE NOISE COMING FROM THE ELEVATED HIGHWAY 'CAUSE IT'S ONLY, WHAT, SIX OR SEVEN FEET TALL.
SO FOR THOSE REASONS, UM, I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY THE WRONG PROJECT FOR THIS LOCATION.
UH, I'D LIKE TO SEE A COMMERCIAL PROJECT COME ALONG.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER RATLIFF.
UM, I WAS, I GUESS THE ONE THAT MISSED THE LAST MEETING.
SO I, I'VE LOOKED AT THIS A LITTLE, I GUESS A LITTLE MORE HOLISTICALLY.
AND IF I TAKE THE, THE GOOGLE AERIAL AND ZOOM OUT, I CONSIDER THIS TO BE KIND OF THE WHOLE OF THE DONUT OVER WHAT'S OVER THERE TODAY.
BECAUSE WHAT'S OVER THERE TODAY IS MULTIFAMILY EAST OF IT, UM, MULTIFAMILY SOUTH OF IT, UM, AT CITY PLACE.
UM, A PRETTY GOOD MIXED USE, UH, UH, DEVELOPMENT SOUTH OF IT AT CITY PLACE.
AND I REALIZE THAT'S OVER THE CITY LIMIT LINE, BUT PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE DON'T KNOW WHERE THE CITY LIMIT LINE IS.
I MEAN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE WALKING TO THE DART STATION.
I MEAN, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HAVING A TRANSIT-ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT WITHIN A WALKING DISTANCE OF A DART STATION.
I MEAN, THIS IS A TRANSIT-ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT AND WALKING DISTANCE OF A DART STATION WITH TWO LINES.
AND SO, UM, BUT NOT ONLY IS IT IN WALKING DISTANCE OF A DART STATION, TWO STATIONS, UM, IT'S WALKING DISTANCE, THE CITY LINE.
AND I MEAN, I, I, I LIVE DOWN IN THIS AREA.
WE PROBABLY EAT DOWN IN CITY LINE AND GO DOWN CITY LINE MORE THAN, UH, I CARE TO ADMIT.
BUT, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD IS, I DON'T WANT TO COMPARE IT TO LEGACY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S SEPARATED BY FREEWAY TOO, BUT, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF CROSS TRAFFIC NORTH AND SOUTH ACROSS THAT FREEWAY.
I THINK, I THINK WE COULD IMPROVE THE SIDEWALKS CONNECTING THOSE.
UM, I, I THINK THERE IS SOME PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY THAT NEEDS TO BE IMPROVED THERE, UH, TO ENCOURAGE THAT WALKING.
BUT WHEN I LOOK AT, UM, R G M FIVE A AND B I, I'M LOOKING BEYOND THE YELLOW LINE
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THAT WE'RE SEEING ON THIS MAP.I'M LOOKING ANOTHER HALF MILE AROUND.
AND, AND BECAUSE IT IS A MIXED USE AREA, IT IT IS VERY DEFINITELY BEING BUILT OUT AS A MIXED USE AREA.
AND THE CITY LINE PEOPLE LIVE IN CITY LINE.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S BUSY DOWN THERE.
IT COULD BE BUSIER, UH, BUT TO BE BUSIER, THEY'RE GONNA NEED MORE PEOPLE, MORE, MORE PEOPLE THAT'LL GO DOWN THERE AND FREQUENT THOSE BUSINESSES FOR US TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
SO WITH THAT SAID, I, ONE OF MY MAIN CONCERNS WAS, WAS NOISE.
THEY'VE ADDRESSED MY SHORT TERM CONCERN.
I'M NOT, UM, AS CONCERNED ABOUT IT LONG TERM.
ONCE THE BUILDINGS ARE BUILT, I THINK IT'LL BE ADEQUATELY SCREENED FROM THE NOISE.
UM, I DO APPRECIATE THE UNIVERSAL DESIGN.
UH, UM, I HAVE A FAMILY MEMBER WITH DISABILITIES AND THOSE ARE SIGNIFICANT ISSUES FOR US.
UH, AND SO I DO APPRECIATE YOUR COMMITMENT TO THAT.
AND, AND I, UH, I'LL HOLD YOU, I'LL HOLD YOU ACCOUNTABLE TO THAT BECAUSE THAT'S IMPORTANT IN OUR FAMILY.
UM, WITH ALL THAT SAID, I'M, I, UH, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS.
I THINK IT, I THINK IT FITS HERE.
UM, I THINK IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE HELD OUT 10 MORE YEARS WOULD BE, ARE WE, ARE WE STEPPING OVER A REALLY GREAT PROJECT TO GET TO PERFECT IF WE DON'T APPROVE THIS? I, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT PROJECT THAT, UH, WE HAVE NO REASON NOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.
UM, AND IN LIEU OF WAITING FOR SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE PERFECT, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE WAITING HELPS US.
UM, SO WITH THAT, WITH THAT SAID, I'M, I'M IN FAVOR.
I DON'T SEE ANY MORE NOTES UP.
UM, WELL, COMMISSIONER BRONSKI, BEFORE YOU GO, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT A COUPLE OF THINGS THOUGH.
UM, ONE IS BY SAYING THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA GET OFFICE SPACE THERE UNLIKELY TO, I STRUGGLE WITH THAT ONLY BECAUSE IT'S IN THE DEVELOPER'S BEST INTEREST TO GO FIND A TENANT.
AND IF WE'RE LIABLE TO GET A CORPORATE WHO WANTS TO BUILD A CORPORATE OFFICE BUILDING THERE, WHO'S TO SAY WE DON'T FIND A MID-SIZE CORPORATION WHO WANTS A 125,000 SQUARE FOOT OFFICE BUILDING? IT COULD BE ANY OF THOSE, RIGHT? IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A GIGANTIC CORPORATION MOVING INTO THIS LOCATION AS TO THE MIXED USE PIECE OF IT, UM, I AGREE FROM THE MOMENT THAT I SAW THIS, UH, I DIDN'T SEE THIS AS THE FRY SITE.
WHAT ARE WE DOING IN THIS CORNER? WHAT DO WE HAVE THERE ALREADY? AND WHAT CAN WE BRING IN TO HELP, UH, MAYBE JUMPSTART SOME OTHER TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT, UH, IMPROVE THE RETAIL THAT EXISTS AROUND IT? UM, AND WITH WHAT'S GOING ON AT COLLIN CREEK MALL AND THE DISCUSSIONS THERE AROUND SOME LOCAL AREA, RAPID TRANSIT, A CIRCLE OR LOOP BETWEEN DOWNTOWN PLANO, COLLIN CREEK MALL, BACK UP TO PLANO PARKWAY TO AVENUE UK AND BACK DOWN TO CENTRAL PLANO.
I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL AT LEAST IS A TRANSPORTATION LOOP FOR THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
WELL, THIS WOULD BE RIGHT ON THAT ROUTE.
SO ANYONE LIVING HERE CAN EASILY AND QUICKLY GET TO DOWNTOWN PLANO.
THEY CAN WALK TO CITY LINE, THEY CAN GET OVER TO COLLIN CREEK MALL.
SO I DON'T SEE THEM BOUND IN THIS ONE AREA.
UM, SO I'M, I'M HOPEFUL AND CONFIDENT THAT WITH THE AGREEMENT THAT THE DEVELOPER MADE TO TIE THE PHASE TWO, UH, OR THE SECOND RESIDENTIAL SECTIONS TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE RETAIL OR OFFICE SPACE, UH, I'M HOPEFUL AND CONFIDENT THAT THAT'S GONNA TURN OVER QUICKER THAN WE THINK.
UH, CERTAINLY THE PEOPLE LIVING HERE, UH, IT'LL BE, IT'LL BE, UH, EASY FOR THEM TO FIND THEIR WAY OVER TO COLLIN CREEK MALL BASED UPON EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN PROMISED AT THAT LOCATION IN TERMS OF MOVIE THEATERS AND RESTAURANTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
SO, UM, ANYWAY, I, I THINK, I THINK THIS IS A GOOD PROJECT.
UM, I THINK WE HELP REMOVE THE ISOLATION OF THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX RIGHT BEHIND IT, UM, BY PUTTING THIS IN.
AND THAT LITTLE EXTRA DENSITY HERE WILL HELP WHATEVER GOES IN AROUND US BE MORE SUCCESSFUL.
I THINK IT'S INTERESTING WHEN WE HAVE A PROJECT AND WE GET NEIGHBORS NEARBY THAT ARE OPPOSED TO IT, UM, WE'RE MORE OPPOSED TO IT.
IF WE GET NEIGHBORS NEARBY THAT ARE IN FAVOR OF IT, UH, THEN WE'RE MORE IN FAVOR OF IT.
AND IN THIS CASE, ALL THE NEARBY NEIGHBORS ARE IN FAVOR OF THIS AND SEE IT AS A WAY TO IMPROVE THEIR OWN BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES.
WE SHOULD BE TAKING THAT INTO CONSIDERATION TOO.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE CORE OF MINE, UH, SUPPORT FOR THIS MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE, IS I THINK IT IMPROVES THE BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES FOR EVERYTHING ON THIS CORNER AND WILL HOPEFULLY SPUR SOME IMPROVEMENTS IN SOME OF THE, UH, SURROUNDING BUILDINGS, UH, UH, THAT'LL HELP THIS ENTIRE AREA IMPROVE.
UM, SO I'VE GOT A LOT TO SAY,
SO NUMBER ONE, UM, WHEN I CONSIDER R G M, UH,
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FIVE, ESPECIALLY A AND B, UH, IT'S NICE TO SAY WE CAN LOOK BEYOND THE YELLOW, BUT, UH, R G M FIVE B SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED, UH, TO PROTECT THE CITIZENS OF PLANO FROM DO-OVERS, FROM DEVELOPING ONE THING, UH, PARTIALLY, AND THEN COMING BACK LATER AND SAY, YOU KNOW, UH, I COULDN'T REALLY DEVELOP, UH, AS SEVERAL COMMISSIONERS HAVE SAID THAT WE COULD, WE, WE WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO DEVELOP THE, UH, OFFICE.AND SO WE NEED PERMISSION TO NOW DO AWAY WITH THE PROMISE WE MADE, UH, OF THE WHAT'S REQUIRED TO DO THAT SECOND SET OF MULTIFAMILY, AND WE GO AHEAD AND DO IT.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT COMMISSIONER CAREY BROUGHT OUT, UM, IS ANOTHER THING THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME.
UM, I WAS RECENTLY HAVING SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE IN PLANO ABOUT, UM, THE CAREFUL BALANCE THAT IT TAKES TO NOT END UP WHERE WE ARE TODAY WITH RETAIL.
YOU KNOW, I THINK MOST PEOPLE IN PLANO WOULD AGREE THAT WE'RE OVER RETAIL.
AND SO WHERE DO WE SIT AS A CITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT MAKES PLANO SO SPECIAL THAT YOU'RE GOING OVERLOOK MOVING TO SOMETHING IN FRISCO OR MCKINNEY TO STAY IN PLANO, AND THAT WE DON'T FIND, UH, OURSELVES WHERE WE ARE, UH, OVER HOUSED OR WE HAVE TOO MUCH OF SOMETHING, UH, AS WE SIT TODAY WITH MULTIFAMILY.
UH, AND SO, UH, I CAN CLEARLY HEAR WHAT MR. CAREY, AS WELL AS MR. BRUNO, UH, WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THERE.
UM, I, I HAVE A QUESTION AND I'M GONNA KEEP GOING.
UH, FOR THE CITY STAFF FOR THE WALKABILITY PIECE, ARE THERE ANY PLANS OR POTENTIALS FOR TRAFFIC LIGHTS AT EXECUTIVE OR TAYLOR? I THINK IT IS TO MAKE THAT MORE WALKABLE TO THE REST OF THE CONNECTING AREAS? I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY, THERE'S NO TRAFFIC LIGHTS THAT WOULD BE BASED UPON, UH, I THINK THE VEHICLE TRIPS THAT WARRANTED.
THIS IS ME GETTING OUT OF MY DEPTH.
UH, I THINK THE APPLICANT AT ONE TIME, WE DID TALK ABOUT SOME PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS THERE, UM, FOR THE DEVELOPMENTS AS THEY CONNECT.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE'D PROBABLY EXPLORE WITH THEM IN THE FUTURE.
UM, NEXT, UM, WHEN I LOOK AT THE DASHBOARDS AND, UH, I BELIEVE THE DASHBOARDS WERE SOMETHING THAT, UH, EVERYBODY IN PLANO WAS COUNTING ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO GET, RIGHT? WHEN I LOOK AT THE DASHBOARDS AND I LOOK AT THE LAND USE, I LOOK AT THE HOUSING MIX, I LOOK AT THE DENSITY, AND I LOOK AT THE BUILDING HEIGHTS.
THIS PROPERTY CHECKS ALL THOSE BOXES.
I ADDITIONALLY, UM, AS I SPENT TIME ON THE PROPERTY TODAY AND VISITING WITH, UH, AURORA ONE 90, UM, MY THOUGHTS ON THIS PROPERTY HAS CHANGED.
AND, UM, NOT JUST AS IT RELATES TO E H A, BUT WHEN WE ESTABLISHED THE FINDINGS FORM IN 0.0, ONE OF THE KEY COMPONENTS OF THE FINDINGS FORM WASN'T THAT IT WAS A PUNISHMENT, BUT IT WAS ACTUALLY, UM, A SURGEON'S TOOL FOR P AND Z AS WELL AS COUNCIL TO LOOK AT THINGS AND SAY, THIS MAY NOT LINE UP WITH A HUNDRED PERCENT OF WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THOUGHT, BUT IT ACTUALLY GIVES US SOME THINGS THAT WE DIDN'T THINK ABOUT.
AND FRANKLY, UNIVERSAL DESIGN WAS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT I THINK WE DIDN'T GET ENOUGH OF AND TO HEAR WHAT THE DEVELOPER IS TALKING ABOUT.
AND TRUTHFULLY, I HOPE THAT A DEVELOPMENT OF THIS KIND RAISES OUR EXPECTATION AS A CITY OF WHAT WE'RE GONNA LOOK FOR IN UNIVERSAL DESIGN GOING FORWARD, WHETHER IT'S MULTIFAMILY, UH, NO MATTER WHAT IT IS, RIGHT? THIS, TO ME, LOOKS LIKE, UM, LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING THAT WE DIDN'T THINK OF IN THE COMPREHENSIVE
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PLAN THAT WAS, UH, OUT OF WHAT, OUT OF WHERE WE COULD HAVE BEEN.SO AS I WEIGH ALL OF THIS, UM, YEAH, SO I AM EXCITED TO SAY THAT, UM, I'M WILLING TO SIGN MY NAME ON THE BOTTOM LINE FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE, UH, SOMETHING SPECIAL AND CREATING, UH, A LEVEL OF FUTURE EXPECTATION THAT ALTHOUGH DOESN'T MEET A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE COMP PLAN, BRINGS US SOMETHING OF HIGH ENOUGH VALUE THAT IS WORTHY OF, UH, ME SIGNING MY NAME TO A FINDINGS FORM AND SUPPORTING THIS.
UH, JUST A COUPLE OF EXTRA COMMENTS, AND I THINK EVERY, EVERYTHING THAT HAS MISSTATED IS WELL STATED AND REASONED AND, UM, APPRECIATE THE THOUGHT.
I, I, I'M NOT GONNA BE, UH, OBLIVIOUS ENOUGH TO THINK THAT IN 2050, THE ZONING COMMISSION HERE WILL GO, WHAT WERE THEY THINKING? WE ARE OVERBUILD, MULTIFAMILY,