Aug 07, 2023 Planning and Zoning

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THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TONIGHT,

[CALL TO ORDER]

IF YOU WOULD PLEASE RISE AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST.

THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING IS TO ALLOW UP TO THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER WITH 30 TOTAL MINUTES ON ITEMS OF INTEREST OR CONCERN AND NOT ON ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE CURRENT AGENDA.

THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MAY NOT DISCUSS THESE ITEMS BUT MAY RESPOND WITH FACTUAL OR POLICY INFORMATION.

THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA.

PRESIDING OFFICER MAY MODIFY THESE TIMES IS DEEMED NECESSARY.

THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? NO, WE DO NOT.

THANK YOU.

LET'S MOVE TO CONSENT.

CONSENT AGENDA.

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THANK YOU.

WOULD ANY STAFF MEMBER OR COMMISSIONER WANNA REMOVE AN ITEM FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA? I MOVE.

WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS SUBMITTED.

I'LL SECOND THAT.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROSKY WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HONG TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

UH, PLEASE VOTE.

MR. LYLE.

THERE WE GO.

THAT ITEM, THE CONSENT CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO.

OKAY.

I THINK BEFORE WE MOVE INTO THE INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION ITEMS, WE'RE GONNA MODIFY THE ORDER.

AND SO IF YOU WANNA START WITH NUMBER SIX, LET'S DO SIX, SEVEN, AND EIGHT AND THEN WE'LL DRAW 'EM BACK TO ONE A AND ONE B ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.

PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS, UNLESS INSTRUCTED OTHERWISE BY THE CHAIR, SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED UPON IN THE ORDER REGISTRATIONS ARE RECEIVED.

APPLICANTS ARE LIMITED TO A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES OF PRESENTATION TIME WITH A FIVE MINUTE REBUTTAL IF NEEDED.

REMAINING SPEAKERS ARE LIMITED TO 30 TOTAL MINUTES OF TESTIMONY TIME WITH THREE MINUTES ASSIGNED PER SPEAKER.

THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY MODIFY THESE TIMES AS DEEMED NECESSARY.

ADMINISTRATIVE CONSIDERATION ITEMS MUST BE APPROVED IF THEY MEET CITY DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, LEGISLATIVE CONSIDERATION ITEMS, OR MORE DISCRETIONARY EXCEPT IS CONSTRAINED BY LEGAL CONSIDERATIONS.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX,

[6. (PM) Public Hearing - Replat: Classic BMW Addition, Block 1, Lot 1R - New vehicle dealer on one lot on 23.6 acres located at the northeast corner of the Dallas North Tollway and Spring Creek Parkway. Zoned Commercial Employment with Specific Use Permit No. 539 for New Car Dealer and located within the Dallas North Tollway Overlay District. Project #R2023-021. Applicant: VHC, LLC (Administrative consideration)]

APPLICANT IS B H C L L C.

THIS IS FOR ADMINISTRATIVE CONSIDERATION.

GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.

I'M PARKER MCDOWELL, PLANNER WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

STAFF RECOMMENDS THE ITEMS SUBMITTED FOR APPROVAL.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF TECHNICAL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'LL OPEN THE PIPE HERE.

THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? UH, NO.

SEEING NONE.

I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

CONFINED DISCUSSION COMMISSION.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

WE APPROVE ITEM SIX AS PRESENTED A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RATLIFF.

SORRY, UH, MR. BERNOFF WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BRONSKI TO APPROVE ITEM SIX AS SUBMITTED, PLEASE VOTE THAT ITEM CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO.

I'LL TRY TO DO BETTER WATCHING THAT FOR, FOR QUESTIONS.

DID YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANY THOUGH, RIGHT? NO.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD.

ITEM SEVEN PLEASE.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN,

[7. (RP) Public Hearing - Revised Preliminary Plat & Preliminary Replat: 12th Street at Grade Station, Block A, Lot 1, and Block B, Lot 1- Transit center/station on two lots on 4.3 acres located at the southeast corner of K Avenue and 12th Place. Zoned Light Commercial with Specific Use Permit No. 166 for Transit Center/Station. Projects #RPP2022-002 and #PR2022-019. Applicant: City of Plano and Dallas Area Rapid Transit (Administrative consideration)]

THIS IS FOR ADMINISTRATIVE CONSIDERATION.

GOOD EVENING MR. CHAIR.

MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, I'M RAHA TI LEAD PLANNER WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE

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I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

THANK YOU.

QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ITEM? TECHNICAL QUESTIONS.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

SEEING NONE, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? NO, WE DO NOT.

ALRIGHT, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND COMMISSIONER BRUNO.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS ITEM, UM, SUBJECT TO ADDITIONS AND OR ALTERATIONS TO THE ENGINEERING PLANS AS REQUIRED BY THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.

THANK YOU.

SO I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BRUNO FOR THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ALI TO APPROVE ITEM SEVEN AS SUBMITTED, UH, BY STAFF.

PLEASE VOTE.

AND THAT ITEM CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO.

ITEM EIGHT

[8. (KC) Public Hearing - Preliminary Replat & Revised Site Plan: Pitman Corners Addition, Block 3, Lot 11 - Car wash on one lot on 1.3 acres located on the east side of Custer Road, 558 feet north of 15th Street. Zoned Planned Development-79-Retail. Projects #PR2023-016 and #RSP2023-047. Applicant: Silver Star Car Wash, LLC (Administrative consideration)]

PITTMAN CORNER'S EDITION BLOCK THREE LOT 11 CAR WASH ON ONE LOT ON 1.3 ACRES LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF CUSTER ROAD.

558 FEET NORTH OF 15TH STREET ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT 79 RETAIL.

APPLICANT IS SILVER STAR CAR WASH L L C.

THIS IS FOR ADMINISTRATIVE CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU.

MS. BRIDGES STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE, UM, PRELIMINARY RELA SUBJECT TO ADDITIONS AND OR ALTERATIONS TO THE ENGINEERING PLANS AS REQUIRED BY THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.

AS FOR THE REVISED SITE PLAN, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

THANK YOU.

ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ITEM? NONE.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC, UH, HEARING.

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? UH, WE DO NOT.

THE APPLICANT IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ON ZOOM.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MR. S I MAKE A MOTION.

WE APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY REPL SUBJECT TO THE ADDITIONS AND ALTERATIONS AS REQUIRED BY THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND THE REVISED SITE PLAN AS SUBMITTED.

SECOND .

SHE TURNED HER MIC ON.

YOU WERE JUST TOO FAST.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RATLIFF, THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BRUNO, IT'S NOT A RACE GUYS.

UH, TO, UH, APPROVE ITEM EIGHT, UM, PER STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, PLEASE VOTE.

AND THAT ITEM CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO.

SO THANK YOU.

WE CAN GO BACK TO ONE A

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AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE, A PUBLIC HEARING ZONING CASE.

SORRY.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE, A PUBLIC HEARING ZONING CASE.

2022 DASH 0 0 9.

REQUEST TO REZONE 19.1 ACRES LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF PLANO PARKWAY AND EXECUTIVE DRIVE FROM COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT CORRIDOR.

COMMERCIAL PETITIONER IS LOT PROPERTY OWNERS.

L L C, THIS IS FOR LEGISLATIVE CONSIDERATION.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE B IS A PUBLIC HEARING CONCEPT PLAN.

FRY'S ELECTRONIC EDITION BLOCK A LOTS ONE THROUGH 37 AND ONE X THROUGH EIGHT X AND BLOCK B LOT ONE MID-RISE RESIDENTIAL UNITS.

PROFESSIONAL GENERAL ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE ATTACHED UNITS AND HOTEL ON 16.5 ACRES LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF PLANO PARKWAY AND EXECUTIVE DRIVE, AGAIN, THIS IS ZONE COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR, I'M SORRY, ZONE CORRIDOR COMMERCIAL AND LOCATED WITHIN THE ONE 90 TOLLWAY PLANO PARKWAY OVERLAY DISTRICT.

AGAIN, APPLICANT IS UNLOCKED PROPERTY OWNERS.

L L C.

THIS IS FOR ADMINISTRATIVE CONSIDERATION.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS DONNA SEPULVEDA, SENIOR PLANNER WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

THIS IS A REQUEST TO REZONE CORRIDOR COMMERCIAL TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT CORRIDOR COMMERCIAL TO ALLOW FOR MIDRISE RESIDENTIAL AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE ATTACHED AS PERMITTED USES SUBJECT PROPERTY IS HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW.

THIS CASE WAS DENIED BY THE P N C COMMISSION ON MAY 1ST, 2023 AND THE APPLICANT APPEALED THE DECISION TO CITY COUNCIL ON JUNE 26TH.

CITY COUNCIL REMANDED THE CASE BACK TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

THE APPLICANT HAS MADE CHANGES REGARDING OPEN SPACE AND AIR FILTRATION AND THESE CHANGES DO NOT, UM, AFFECT STAFF'S.

RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL.

THE APPLICANT CHANGED THE SETBACK OF OPEN SPACE FROM 150 FEET TO 300 FEET AS SHOWN BY THE RED LINE ON THE SCREEN.

THE SETBACK BETTER REFLECTS LOCATION OF THE OPEN SPACE SHOWN IN

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THE APPLICANT HAS ALSO INCREASED AIR FILTRATION STANDARDS IN THE PD LANGUAGE.

THE REQUEST NOW INCLUDES REQUIREMENTS THAT EACH OUTDOOR AIR SOURCE VENTILATION UNIT MUST CONTAIN A FILTER BOX ON THE INTAKE SIDE OR FILTER HOUSING.

ADDITIONALLY, THE STANDARDS INCLUDE A COMMITMENT THAT THE FILTER BOXES MUST BE MERV EIGHT STANDARD OR GREATER.

A CONCEPT PLAN HAS BEEN SUBMITTED WITH THE ZONING REQUEST.

THE CONCEPT PLAN CONSISTS OF TWO PHASES SHOWING THE MID-RISE TOWNHOMES OFFICE, A HOTEL AND THE OPEN SPACE.

AND THE CONCEPT PLAN REMAINS UNCHANGED FROM THE MAY 1ST P N Z MEETING WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE OPEN SPACE SETBACK.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS DESIGNATED EXPRESSWAY CORRIDORS ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

AS MENTIONED IN THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS, THIS REQUEST MEETS SOME OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICIES, BUT NOT ALL OF THEM.

THIS REQUEST IS STILL INCONSISTENT WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT POLICY AND THIS REQUEST WILL REQUIRE FINDINGS.

THE MID-RISE RESIDENTIAL REMAINS UNCHANGED FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING 500 UNIT 500 AND WE UNITS AND THERE ARE SOME SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES POSED BY THE MIDRISE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THIS SUBJECT PROPERTY.

THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE ALSO, UM, REMAINS THE SAME.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 33 UNITS AND STAFF STILL HAS CONCERNS REGARDING THE PLACEMENT AND DESIGN OF THE UNITS.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, UM, IS CLOSE TO THE BUSH DART STATION, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 0.42 MILES AWAY.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE E H A ONE AND E H A TWO AREAS.

THE NOY STUDY HAS NOT CHANGED, BUT THE APPLICANT HAS ADDED THE INCREASED AIR FILTRATION STANDARDS AND TO PROTECT FROM THE NOISE, THE APPLICANT IS PLACING A RESIDENTIAL SETBACK, UM, A MINIMUM OF 435 FEET AWAY FROM THE STATE HIGHWAY ONE 90 FRONTAGE ROAD ADDING TEMPORARY BERMS IN PHASE ONE, CREATING BALCONY RESTRICTIONS WHERE EXTERIOR NOISE LEVELS EXCEED 65 D B A AND PROVIDING POLLUTION AND NOISE MITIGATION MEASURES.

THE STANDARDS PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT PROVIDES SOME PROTECTION FROM THE RESIDENTS, INCLUDING ENSURING INTERIOR NOISE LEVELS ARE SUFFICIENT.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING PD STIPULATIONS TO ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE RESIDENTIAL USES.

THE FIRST STIPULATION IS REGARDING TRACKS, WHICH IS UNCHANGED FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS.

TRACK ONE INCLUDES THE 501 MID-RISE UNITS, 33, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, ATTACHED UNITS, OPEN SPACE AND OFFICE AND TRACK TWO INCLUDES STANDARDS TO ACCOMMODATE A FUTURE HOTEL DEVELOPMENT.

THE APPLICANT IS ALSO PROPOSING OPEN SPACE USE AND PHASING REQUIREMENTS.

THE ONLY CHANGE IS THE 1.5 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE MUST BE SET BACK A MINIMUM OF 300 FEET FROM US HIGHWAY 75 AND STATE HIGHWAY ONE 90.

THE APPLICANT IS ALSO PROPOSING STANDARDS RELATING TO THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT INCLUDING NOISE LEVELS, MODIFIED SETBACKS, HEIGHT LIMITATIONS, F A R UNIT SIZES AND SCREENING RESTRICTIONS.

AS DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY, THE APPLICANT HAS ADDED AIR FILTRATION REQUIREMENTS SINCE THE LAST P N Z MEETING.

LASTLY, THE APPLICANT HAS ADDED PD STIPULATIONS RELATING TO SETBACKS, LANDSCAPE EDGES AND DESIGN STANDARDS.

AND, AND WE HAVE RECEIVED THREE RESPONSES IN SUPPORT WITHIN THE 200 FOOT BUFFER.

AND WE DID RECEIVE ONE DUPLICATE RESPONSE FOR A TOTAL OF FOUR RESPONSES.

IN CITYWIDE.

WE RECEIVED 4 42 UNIQUE RESPONSES, 12 IN SUPPORT TWO NEUTRAL 28 IN OPPOSITION.

FIVE OF THOSE RESPONSES WERE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF PLANO AND WE DID RECEIVE SEVEN DUPLICATE RESPONSES FOR A TOTAL OF 49 RESPONSES.

TO SUMMARIZE, THE APPLICANT HAS MADE IMPROVEMENTS ON AIR FILTRATION AND OPEN SPACE SETBACKS.

THIS REQUEST WILL AID IN THE CITY'S GOAL OF REDEVELOPMENT IN THE US 75 CORRIDOR AND MEETS OTHER STANDARDS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SUCH AS THE MIX OF USES.

HOWEVER, OTHER POLICIES FOCUSED ON REDEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT ARE MORE CHALLENGED BY THIS REQUEST.

AS A RESULT, THE CURRENT ZONING SHOULD REMAIN UNCHANGED TO ALLOW OTHER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT

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FOR THIS REASON, STAFF DOES NOT SUPPORT THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST AND APPROVAL WILL REQUIRE FINDINGS, THE ZONING.

YEP.

FORGOT TO MOVE MY SLIDE FORWARD, .

AND, UM, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

WE HAVE TECHNICAL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF MR. BURNOFF.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.

UM, DOES THE APPLICATION CONTAIN ANY SPECIFIC, UM, LANDSCAPE PLANS FOR THE OPEN SPACE AREA OTHER THAN JUST BY DESIGNATING AN OPEN SPACE? UM, IF APPROVED, A LANDSCAPE PLAN WILL COME IN WITH THE SITE PLAN FOR REVIEW.

SO WE DON'T HAVE ONE AT THIS TIME.

OKAY.

SO IF THE SITE PLAN IN THE FUTURE WOULD, WOULD, WOULD CONTAIN THAT? YES.

WE'LL, WE WILL REQUEST A LANDSCAPE PLAN.

OKAY.

BECAUSE I NOTICED THAT THE, THE APPLICATION DOES CONTAIN LANDSCAPE SPECIFICS FOR THE BERMS, FOR THE, THE STREETS SETBACK AREAS AND FOR THE WEST PROPERTY LINE, BUT NOT FOR THE OPEN SPACE.

YES.

IF APPROVED WHEN WE RECEIVE THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, WE WILL REVIEW THE PD STIPULATIONS.

OKAY.

NOW WHAT PHASE, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE OFFICE BUILDING IS IN PHASE TWO, IS THAT CORRECT? OF CONSTRUCTION? UM, LET ME BACK UP.

MR. HILL, IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH.

SO PHASE ONE IS 260 MIDRISE UNITS.

OKAY.

THE REQUIRED OPEN SPACE AND A MINIMUM OF 33 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE ATTACHED UNITS.

MM-HMM.

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SO WITH PHASE ONE, THERE'S NO REQUIRED NON-RESIDENTIAL USES.

SO PHASE TWO WOULD WOULD BE EVERYTHING ELSE.

PHASE TWO, THEY NEED A MINIMUM OF 70,000 SQUARE FEET OF NON-RESIDENTIAL, WHICH CAN BE IN PHASE ONE OR PHASE TWO OR TRACT ONE OR TRACT TWO.

EXCUSE ME.

OKAY.

UM, YEAH, SO THE HOTEL IS IN PHASE TWO POTENTIALLY, YEAH.

70,000 SQUARE FEET.

AND THEIR CONCEPT PLAN DOES SHOW HOTEL BEING ROUGHLY AROUND THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE.

YEAH.

HOW MANY OF THE HOTEL IS, HAS 70,000 SQUARE FEET OF FLOOR SPACE? UM, TOTAL APPROXIMATELY MM-HMM.

, CORRECT? YES.

YES.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

I SEE MR. BROSKY AND MR. CAREY JUST, WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF FEEDBACK, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S CAUSING IT, BUT IF WE CAN MANAGE THAT, THAT'D BE HELPFUL.

UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW BAD IT IS FOR THE AUDIENCE, BUT DOWN HERE IT'S, IT'S PRETTY BAD.

SO NEXT UP WAS, UH, COMMISSIONER BROSKY ON THE LANDSCAPING QUESTION AS WELL? UM, WHEN I VISITED THE PROPERTY, I NOTICED, UH, NOT JUST IN THE AREA THAT THEY WERE PROPOSING THE, UM, OPEN SPACE, UH, WHICH I'M VERY THANKFUL THAT, UM, WE'RE ACTUALLY, UH, THEY'RE PROPOSING MORE OPEN SPACE THAN WHAT IS CURRENTLY ON THE SITE.

BUT MY QUESTION IS, THERE ARE A LOT OF MATURE TREES THAT RING THAT PROPERTY BOTH ON, UM, PLANO PARKWAY AS WELL AS ALL THE WAY AROUND EXECUTIVE.

UH, IS THERE, I KNOW, UH, WHEN I TALKED EARLIER TO ERIC, UH, THEY SAID EVERY 50 FEET WAS REQUIRED TO HAVE A TREE, BUT THERE IS NOTHING REQUIRING THEM TO MAINTAIN THOSE NICE OLDER TREES AS OPPOSED TO REPLACING THEM WITH ALL NEWER TREES LIKE, UH, OR AURORA ONE 90 IS ACROSS THE WAY.

IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.

SO THEY, THEY CAN REMOVE TREES ON SITE AND WE WILL REVIEW THAT AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS AND THEY WILL HAVE TO PROVIDE MITIGATION IF THEY REMOVE ANY TREES.

SO THEY'LL HAVE TO MITIGATE FOR EVERY TREE THEY REMOVE.

YES.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD SOMETHING.

UM, WE HAVE CERTAIN PROVISION IN OUR ZONING ORDINANCE THAT, UH, DOESN'T REQUIRE TREE MITIGATION FOR CERTAIN INSTANCES, LIKE BUILDING PADS, FIRE LANE.

UM, IF UTILITIES, IF, UM, A TREE IS REMOVED AND THAT IS GOING, THAT THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT WILL HAVE THEIR FIRE LINE AND BUILDING PAD IN THAT AREA, THEY'RE NOT SUBJECT TO MITIGATION.

HOWEVER, TREES THAT ARE, UM, LARGER THAN EIGHT CALIPER INCHES, UH, AND THEY'RE NOT LOCATED IN THOSE EXEMPT AREAS, THEY'RE SUBJECT TO MITIGATION AND THE APPLICANT CAN, UM, DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT TO, UH, MITIGATE IT THE ONE, ONE TO ONE RATIO OR PAID A MITIGATION FEE, WHICH, UH, CITY OF PLANO WILL UTILIZE, UM, TO PLANT MEDIAN TREES.

OKAY.

UH, THAT'S MY QUESTION.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CAREY.

YEAH, JUST ONE QUESTION.

UH, DONNA.

UM, SO THERE'S AN INCREASED SETBACK HERE, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT AFFECTS THE OPEN SPACE.

AND AS I REMEMBER IT, THE OPEN SPACE STILL DOESN'T

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AM I CORRECT ABOUT THAT? THE OPEN SPACE LOCATION HAS NOT CHANGED.

THE SETBACK HAS CHANGED FROM 150 TO 300 FEET.

UM, AND I BELIEVE THE NOISE STUDY WAS ONLY FOR THE RESIDENTIAL.

YEAH, THE, THE NOISE INFORMATION IN THE ORDINANCE ALSO COVERS, UM, SENSITIVE LAND USES SUCH AS PARKS.

UM, IT DOESN'T REALLY APPLY TO PRIVATE OPEN SPACE, BUT THE OPEN SPACE WOULD HAVE SIMILAR NOISE, NOISE LEVELS.

UH, SO IT WOULD BE, UM, IN SOME AREAS EXCEEDING THE, THE NOISE RECOMMENDATIONS.

THANK YOU THAT IT? NO MORE QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I WILL NOW OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING AND WE WILL BRING THE APPLICANT, I GUESS FORWARD.

YES, BRIAN WOLF.

GOOD EVENING AGAIN.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS .

AS A REMINDER, MY NAME'S BRIAN WOLF.

UH, UH, MY ADDRESS IS 44 0 3 NORTH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY.

I'M A PARTNER WITH BAY WEST DEVELOPMENT.

UH, I BELIEVE YOU ALL KNOW THIS PROPERTY AND PROJECT PRETTY WELL AT THIS POINT, SO I'LL TRY TO MAKE THIS FAIRLY QUICK.

UH, WE WENT TO CITY COUNCIL ABOUT A MONTH AGO.

UH, THEY INITIALLY VOTED SIX THREE TO APPROVE OUR PROJECT, BUT THAT DIDN'T MEET THE SUPER MAJORITY THAT WE NEEDED.

UH, SO THEY ASKED US TO COME BACK TO P N Z, UH, TO FURTHER CLARIFY SOME THINGS MAINLY REGARDING THE E H A.

SO THE FIRST THING, UH, THAT I WANTED TO CLARIFY IS WHICH E H A ZONE OUR RESIDENTIAL IS LOCATED IN.

I KNOW THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION OVER WHETHER OUR RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS WERE IN E H A ONE OR THE MORE RESTRICTIVE, EH, A TWO.

UH, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE IMAGE ON THE RIGHT, ALL OF OUR RESIDENTIAL UNITS ARE LOCATED WITHIN THE E H A ONE WHERE THAT USE IS APPROPRIATE, SO LONG AS WE COMPLETE THE E H A SITE ANALYSIS BY THE INDUSTRY EXPERT AND IMPLEMENT ALL THE RECOMMENDED MITIGATIONS FOR THE POLICY.

THE SECOND THING I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WAS OUR AIR POLLUTION MITIGATIONS, THE CITY OF PLANOS 2019 E H A STUDY STATES QUOTE, IT IS CLEAR BASED ON THE RECENT RESEARCH THAT THE ZONE LOCATED WITHIN 300 FEET OF THE EDGE OF THE ROADWAY HAS THE POTENTIAL TO HAVE HIGHER LEVELS OF SOME POLLUTANTS.

AS A REMINDER, WE ARE PROVIDING A 435 FOOT MINIMUM SETBACK FOR THE RESIDENTIAL.

SO WE'RE WELL BEYOND THAT.

AND OUR E H A STUDY CONCLUDED THAT OUR RESIDENTS ARE NOT EXPECTED TO EXPERIENCE HIGHER CONCENTRATIONS OF HIGHWAY BASED AIR POLLUTANTS.

DESPITE THAT LAST TIME AROUND, UH, WE ADDED LANGUAGE TO OUR PD STIPULATIONS REGARDING THE MECHANICAL VENTILATION AND WHERE IT COULD BE LOCATED, UH, AND IN WHICH DIRECTION.

UH, WE'VE DECIDED TO ADD FURTHER MITIGATIONS REGARDING THE AIR, UH, REGARDING AIR POLLUTION WITH INCREASED AIR FILTRATION.

UH, PER COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH'S REQUEST, WE'VE COMMITTED TO THE MERV EIGHT AIR FILTRATION STANDARD, WHICH IS THE SAME STANDARD AS THE RECENTLY APPROVED J PLACE PROJECT, UH, TO THE SOUTHEAST OF US, WHICH IS LOCATED WITHIN THE E H A TWO AND SIGNIFICANTLY CLOSER TO THE EXPRESSWAY.

UH, ADDITIONALLY, WE CLARIFIED OUR OPEN, UH, SPACE SETBACK, SHOWING THAT IT WOULD ALSO BE OUTSIDE OF THE 300 FOOT ZONE.

UH, THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT WAS UNIVERSAL DESIGN.

UH, ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS ASKED ME HOW WE INCORPORATE UNIVERSAL DESIGN AND INCLUSIVENESS INTO OUR PROJECT.

UM, I THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD TOPIC THAT WE HAVE NOT YET DISCUSSED, UH, AND SOMETHING WE DO QUITE A BIT DIFFERENTLY THAN MANY OTHER DEVELOPERS.

AND NOW, UNIVERSAL DESIGN CAN BE FOR ELDERLY CHILDREN, PEOPLE WITH PHYSICAL DEVELOPMENTAL COGNITIVE DISABILITIES, PEOPLE WITH SENSORY CHALLENGES, PEOPLE ON THE AUTISM SPECTRUM, OR SIMPLY SOMEONE WHO GOT HURT AND SPRAINED AN ANKLE OR BROKE A BONE.

THE IDEA IS TO IMPROVE THE ACCESSIBILITY OF THE, OF STRUCTURES BY INTEGRATING COST EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT MODIFICATIONS TO ACCOMMODATE INDIVIDUAL NEEDS OF OCCUPANTS.

I THOUGHT THE BEST WAY TO SHOW YOU WHAT WE DO, UH, IS WITH ACTUAL PHOTOS FROM BAY WEST PROJECTS AND HOW WE INCORPORATE ASPECTS OF UNIVERSAL DESIGN INTO OUR PROJECTS.

HERE'S A PHOTO OF SOME COMMON AREA SPACE AT ONE OF OUR PROJECTS.

AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE CIRCLE ON THE RIGHT WHERE WE HAVE BAR STYLE SEATING, WE ALSO INCLUDE A LOWER LEVEL SO THAT RESIDENTS IN WHEELCHAIRS CAN EASILY JOIN AND BE INCLUDED.

IN THE CIRCLE TO THE LEFT, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE TRY TO PLACE MICROWAVES, WARMING DRAWERS, REFRIGERATORS IN THE LOWER CABINETS SO THAT ANYONE CAN USE THEM.

HERE YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE HAVE COMMON AREA SINKS.

WE INCLUDE CABINET CUTOUTS SO THAT A WHEELCHAIR CAN EASILY ROLL IN AND USE THE SINK.

IN AREAS WHERE WE HAVE COMMUNITY GARDEN TYPE SPACE, WE PUT THEM IN RAISED BEDS WHERE THEY'RE

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IN OUTDOOR BARBECUE AREAS, WE TRY TO LEAVE OPENINGS UNDER THE COUNTERS SO THAT THEY'RE ACCESSIBLE.

WE ALSO PUT OUTLETS AT LOWER LEVELS WITHIN EASY REACH.

WE INCLUDE COURTYARDS THAT ARE NON-ACTIVE AND ARE MORE ABOUT SPACE AND SERENITY.

WE USE CALM COLOR PALETTES FOR THESE AREAS AND INCLUDE NATURAL ELEMENTS SUCH AS FLOWERS AND GRASSES.

IT'S BEEN SHOWN THAT SENSORY ELEMENTS SUCH AS SMELLING FLOWERS AND TOUCHING GRASSES IN A CALM ENVIRONMENT CAN HELP ALL CHILDREN, BUT ESPECIALLY THOSE WITH CERTAIN DISORDERS AND DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES.

IN T O D LOCATIONS SUCH AS THIS, WE INCORPORATE TRANSIT SCREENS THAT SYNC WITH TRAIN AND BUS SCHEDULES AS APPLICABLE.

IT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO CHECK THE SCHEDULE WHILE LEAVING THE COMPLEX WITHOUT HAVING TO ACCESS THEIR PHONE OR COMPUTERS.

ON THE INTERIOR UNITS, WE PUT LIGHT CONTROLS AND OUTLETS WITHIN EASY REACH.

WE DON'T DO THIS ON EVERY UNIT, BUT WE TRY TO PUT IN ROLL-IN SHOWERS.

UH, THIS USUALLY WORKS BEST IN TWO BEDROOM FLOOR PLANS WHERE THE OTHER BATHROOM HAS A TYPICAL SHOWER TUB COMBO.

AND YOU CAN SEE HERE WHERE WE ALSO, UH, PUT OUTLETS AND CONTROLS WITHIN EASY REACH.

WE PUT NEST THERMOSTATS IN ALL OF OUR UNITS TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO CONTROL THEIR HEATING AND AIR CONDITIONING FROM THEIR PHONES.

HERE YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE UTILIZE LOWER CABINETS WITH PULLOUT DRAWERS.

PULLOUT DRAWERS ARE MUCH MORE ACCESSIBLE TO USE AND ALSO A KEY COMPONENT OF UNIVERSAL DESIGN.

WE INCREASE DOOR WIDTHS WITHIN A UNIT WHEREVER WE CAN.

WE UTILIZE STEP LESS ENTRYWAYS, NOT ONLY AT THE FRONT DOOR OF THE UNIT, BUT ALSO ON ANY PATIO OR BALCONY SPACE.

AND AGAIN, HERE YOU CAN SEE THE INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF ACCESSIBLE OUTLETS AND CONTROLS THAT WE INCLUDE.

THE OTHER THING WE'VE WORKED REALLY HARD TO DO IS MAKE EVERY UNIT WHAT WE CALL A D A ADAPTABLE.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IN ADDITION TO THE ACCESSIBLE OUTLETS AND LIGHTING CONTROLS THAT ARE STANDARD IN ALL OF OUR UNITS ARE BATHROOMS AND KITCHENS ARE WIDE ENOUGH FOR WHEELCHAIRS TO BE ACCESSIBLE.

ANY WORKSPACE WITHIN A UNIT IS A D A SIZE, AND THIS IS PRETTY COOL.

WE'VE WORKED WITH OUR CABINET SUPPLIERS SO THAT WE HAVE REMOVABLE SINK BASES IN ALL OF OUR KITCHENS AND BATHS.

SIMILAR TO WHAT I SHOWED YOU EARLIER IN THE COMMON AREA SPACE.

THIS ALLOWS PEOPLE IN WHEELCHAIRS TO EASILY USE THE SINKS.

THIS ALLOWS US TO EASILY ADAPT A UNIT, SHOULD A RESIDENT OR PROSPECTIVE RESIDENT NEED IT.

IT ALSO HELPS WITH RETENTION.

IF SOMEONE'S LIFE CIRCUMSTANCE CHANGE, YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO CHANGE HOMES.

SO AGAIN, WE'VE TRIED TO SHOW YOU FROM THE BEGINNING HOW WE DESIGNED TO THE HIGHEST STANDARDS AND DON'T JUST BUILD A TYPICAL APARTMENT BUILDING.

I HOPE THIS GIVES YOU A SENSE OF SOME OF OUR UNIQUE DESIGN ELEMENTS OF A BAY WEST PROJECT.

AND I ALSO HOPE IT CLARIFIES THE E H A QUESTIONS.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY.

UM, MR. BURNOFF, MR. CHAIRMAN, YOUR MIC IS OFF.

IT DIDN'T COME ON.

THERE YOU GO.

THERE YOU GO.

OKAY.

UH, MR. WOLF, UM, IN YOUR OPINION, HAS THE, UH, THE MARKET FOR BUILDING OFFICE BUILDINGS IMPROVED SUBSTANTIALLY SINCE OUR LAST MEETING TOGETHER? NO.

OKAY.

UM, HOW MANY SQUARE FEET OF FLOOR SPACE ARE IN THE HOTEL? SEVEN.

JUST, UH, JUST UNDER 70,000 SQUARE FEET.

AND HOW ABOUT IN THE OFFICE BUILDING IF YOU BUILD IT? UH, 125,000 SQUARE FEET.

OKAY.

AT THE LAST MEETING I ASKED YOU IF ECONOMIC CIRCUMSTANCES WERE SUCH THAT IT WAS NOT FEASIBLE FOR YOU TO BUILD THE OFFICE BUILDING.

WOULD YOU PROCEED WITH THE PHASE TWO RESIDENTIAL UNITS AT THAT TIME? YOU ANSWERED NO, WE CANNOT PER OUR PD STIPULATIONS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM.

, THANK YOU CHAIRMAN.

UM, ON YOUR CONCEPT PLAN, PHASE ONE, I THINK YOU'VE ADDRESSED ONE OF MY ORIGINAL CONCERNS, WHICH WAS THE BUFFERING IN PHASE ONE.

I SEE THE BERMS ON THERE.

OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T HAVE A LANDSCAPE PLAN TONIGHT, BUT IS THAT, IS IT YOUR INTENTION THAT THAT WOULD HAVE A, A VEGETATIVE SCREEN ON THE TOP OF IT? IS THAT THE PLAN? YES.

AND WE'VE DESCRIBED THAT WITHIN THE PD STIPULATION.

SO THAT BERM IS PART OF PHASE ONE PER OUR PD STIPULATIONS OR SCREENING NOISE, ET CETERA, FROM THAT'S RIGHT.

FROM THE HIGHLIGHT.

I THINK IT'S, I'M GOING OFF OF MEMORY, BUT I THINK SIX FEET TALL, THREE TO ONE WIDTH, THE LENGTH OF, UH, THE BUILDING, IT LOOKS LIKE A LANDSCAPE BERM AND WALKS LIKE A LANDSCAPE BERM.

SO, YEAH.

SO IT, UH, I, I APPRECIATE IT.

IT WAS PRETTY OBVIOUS.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS CLEAR AND ON THE RECORD, SO.

YEP.

OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

I'M LOOKING FOR OTHER, OH, I KNEW MR. BRONSKI, YOU HAD TO HAVE A QUESTION AT LEAST ONE.

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UH, WELL FIRST I WANNA SAY, UM, I, I REALLY LIKE WHAT YOU'VE PRESENTED FORWARD AS IT RELATES TO UNIVERSAL DESIGN.

I DO BELIEVE THAT THAT DOES PROVIDE, UM, SOMETHING OF VERY SIGNIFICANT VALUE, UM, TO CONSIDER, ESPECIALLY, UH, WHEN WE CONSIDER USING THE POWERFUL TOOL OF FINDINGS TO, UM, JUSTIFY, UH, THINGS THAT DON'T NECESSARILY FIT PERFECTLY WITHIN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

UH, I WAS HAVING A CONVERSATION EARLIER TODAY, UH, WITH STAFF AND I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD HELP ME A LITTLE BIT UNDERSTAND, UM, TRACK TWO, WHAT KIND OF A HOTEL CAN I EXPECT TO SEE THERE? HAVE YOU HAD ANY CONVERSATIONS? WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT PUTTING THERE? AS FAR AS A HOTEL? YEAH.

IT'S LIKELY TO BE, UM, KIND OF LIKE A MID-LEVEL HOTEL.

SO IT'S NOT GONNA BE A CONVENTION CENTER STYLE HOTEL.

UM, IT'S MORE OF A SUITE.

IT'S PROBABLY GEARED, UM, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A, ONCE THE SILVER LINE COMES IN, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO THE AIRPORT.

UM, YOU HAVE CITY LINE, WHICH HAS ALL THAT OFFICE SPACE, OBVIOUSLY, HOPEFULLY OUR OFFICE SPACE AS WELL.

SO WE SEE IT MORE AS A BUSINESS STYLE HOTEL.

OKAY.

UH, SECOND QUESTION IS STILL ON TRACK TOO.

UM, SO IN THE FAR EAST IS THE HOTEL, IN THE MIDDLE IS PARKING, AND THEN THERE'S KIND OF NOTHING IN THE FAR WEST.

AND I REALIZE THAT'S FAIRLY NARROW.

WHAT DO YOU ENVISION THAT, IS THAT JUST GONNA BE VACANT LAND OR ARE YOU GONNA TAKE CARE OF THAT SOMEHOW? SO WE ACTUALLY DON'T OWN THE FAR LEFT PORTION.

SO THE ACTUAL PROPERTY LINE WITHIN THAT, WHEN YOU GO OUT THERE AND LOOK AT IT, YOU WOULD THINK IT'S ALL ONE PARCEL.

BUT OUR PARCEL IS WITHIN A, UH, A CERTAIN AREA WITHIN THE STREET BOUNDARIES, IF YOU WILL.

UM, THERE'S ALSO A BIG WATER EASEMENT GOING ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE OF THERE.

YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN PIPES OUT ON THE, ON THE SITE SINCE THEN.

THERE, UM, THE CITY IS, OR THE COUNTY IS REPLACING, UM, A LOT OF WATER PIPES RIGHT THERE.

SO WE DON'T ACTUALLY OWN THAT, THAT PORTION OF IT.

AND SO CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.

OKAY.

IF WE WOULD, IT WOULD'VE CREATED A MUCH EASIER SITE TO DESIGN, OBVIOUSLY, 'CAUSE WE WOULD'VE MORE SPACE.

BUT, UM, WE'RE WORKING WITH WHAT WE HAVE.

YEAH.

'CAUSE ON YOUR, ON THE MAP THAT I WAS LOOKING AT, IT GOES ALMOST ALL THE WAY TO SERVICE ROAD.

TO THE SERVICE ROAD THERE.

YEAH.

ON THE CONCEPT MAP, IT DOESN'T, ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE SITE, SOUTHWEST SIDE OF THE SIDE.

YEAH.

ON THE SOUTH SIDE.

I SEE THAT.

BUT AS FAR AS THE NORTHWEST SIDE, IT DOES, IT LOOKS LIKE AT LEAST.

IS THAT CORRECT STAFF? I HAVE SOME MICE IN HERE SOMEWHERE.

SOMETHING CRICKETS.

YES.

AND I THINK WE CAN, UM, MS. OTTI, IF YOU COULD CHANGE THE SLIDES BACK.

YOU CAN SEE THE, THE APPLICANT DOES HAVE PROPERTY.

I, I THINK MR. WOLFIE MAY BE TALKING ABOUT THE NORTHERN PORTION, WHICH IS UNDER CONSIDERATION TONIGHT FOR ZONING.

I THINK YOU'RE MAYBE REFERRING TO THE SOUTHERN PORTION, WHICH IS BY EASEMENTS.

I WAS REFERRING TO THAT SOUTHERN PORTION.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SO THE PORTION IN YELLOW IS, IS YOUR PROPERTY, CORRECT? THAT'S RIGHT.

SO I THINK HE'S ASKING ABOUT THAT NARROWER PORTION THAT, THAT TOP NORTHERN PART OF THAT FAR GOT IT.

WEST SIDE.

GOT IT.

YEAH, IT'S, IT KIND OF LOOKS EMPTY ON THE MAP SO IT BECOMES SO NARROW THAT IT CAN'T BE UTILIZED FROM A PARKING OR BUILDING PERSPECTIVE.

SO IT WOULD BE LANDSCAPED.

OKAY.

YEAH.

UM, AND A QUESTION THAT I HAD ASKED STAFF EARLIER, UH, HOW DOES YOUR COMPANY LOOK AT, UH, ESPECIALLY OLDER, UH, TREES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT WHEN I LOOKED AT A LOT OF THE MAPS AND I, I FRANKLY SPENT THREE AND A HALF HOURS THERE TODAY, UH, ON THE PROPERTY.

UM, SOME OF THOSE TREES DON'T LOOK SO GREAT, BUT A LOT OF THOSE LOOK VERY NICE.

AND I'M, I'M, I'M HOPEFUL THAT IF IT'S YOUR INTENTION TO DO AS GREAT A JOB AS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT WE ARE ABLE TO HOLD ONTO A LOT OF THAT.

UH, SO WHERE DO YOU GUYS, HOW DO YOU, HOW DOES YOUR COMPANY HANDLE THOSE KIND OF TREES AND THAT KIND OF SITUATION? YEP.

SO WE'LL DO A TREE STUDY.

WE DO A TREE STUDY, UM, ON ALL OF OUR PROPERTIES, WHICH WE'LL SUBMIT TO STAFF.

UM, ANYWHERE WHERE WE CAN KEEP TREES, WE WILL.

UH, WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THIS PROPERTY IS WE HAVE A HUGE LANDSCAPE, UM, SETBACK ACROSS THE ENTIRE PROPERTY.

I THINK IT'S 30 FEET.

MM-HMM.

ALONG PLANO PARKWAY, I THINK 20 FEET ALONG, UM, UH, EXECUTIVE DRIVE.

AND THE MAJORITY OF THE TREES ON SITE TODAY ARE, ARE LOCATED ON THE STREET EDGES.

UM, BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE'LL DO A, WE'LL DO A TREE SURVEY.

WE, AT THE HEALTH OF THE TREES HAVE AN ARBORIST COME OUT AND, AND DETERMINE WHAT WE, WE CAN KEEP.

OBVIOUSLY IT'S THE MORE MATURE TREES ARE ALWAYS BETTER, JUST FROM A PURE DESIGN PERSPECTIVE.

UM, AND THEN IT'S ALSO CHEAPER.

IT'S ECONOMICALLY BETTER FOR US MANY TIMES

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SO WE'LL KEEP AS MANY AS WE CAN AFTER DOING THAT ARBORIST STUDY.

OKAY.

AND ALONG EXECUTIVE SOUTH OF WHERE THE BERM WOULD GO, I'M GUESSING, ESPECIALLY, UH, DURING PHASE ONE, YOU'RE GONNA LEAVE ALL THOSE TREES THERE PROBABLY.

RIGHT? THAT'S, AND THAT'LL BE AN ADDITIONAL, BECAUSE, UH, WHEN I WAS VISITING WITH AURORA ONE 90 TODAY, IT WAS INTERESTING HOW MUCH OF THEIR PROPERTY WAS SOUTH AND CLOSER TO THE, UH, GEORGE BUSH THEN WHERE YOUR BERM WOULD GO, EVEN BEYOND THOSE TREES.

SO THOSE TREES WOULD NOT CHANGE.

THAT'S RIGHT.

ESPECIALLY DURING ONE.

AND PROBABLY YOU WOULD WORK TO MAINTAIN THOSE DURING OBVIOUSLY WHERE THE BERM IS AND THE GRADING THAT WE'LL HAVE TO DO TO PUSH DIRT UP TO CREATE THAT BERM.

THOSE LOCATIONS WILL CHANGE.

BUT ANYTHING SOUTH OF THAT, UM, WE'D KEEP, AND WE'D PROBABLY SEED, UH, HYDRO SEED TO, TO GRASP THE, THAT SPACE AS WELL AS, UM, PUTTING SOME PATHWAYS SO THAT OUR RESIDENTS HAVE ACCESS DOWN TO, UH, DOWN TO CITY LINE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER OLLIE.

UH, MORE A COMMENT THAN A QUESTION.

UH, APPRECIATE THE, THE WORK, UH, GIVEN THE FEEDBACK THAT WAS THAT YOU RECEIVED NONE THE LAST TIME.

I APPRECIATE THE THOUGHT.

MEV EIGHT IS PROBABLY AS GOOD AS I COULD HOPE FOR, UM, WITHOUT GOING INTO HOSPITAL GREAT AIR, APPARENTLY.

UH, AND JUST MORE THAN ANYTHING, HOPEFULLY THIS FEELS LIKE A, A, A GOOD EXAMPLE OF A BACK AND FORTH PUSH AND PULL MANAGING DETENTIONS, UH, BETWEEN CITY AND DEVELOPERS.

SO JUST WANNA SAY, APPRECIATE YOU TAKING TIME.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER LAW.

THE PLAZA GREEN HAS BEEN A BIG CONVERSATION IN THE PAST PRESENTATIONS.

WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT IT TONIGHT.

HAS IT CHANGED AT ALL? NO.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THAT WAS EASY.

ALRIGHT, ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? NO, WE DO NOT.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND CONFINED DISCUSSION TO THE COMMISSION.

I, I WANNA ADD JUST ONE THING THAT, UH, OBVIOUSLY LAST TIME I, I VOTED IN FAVOR OF IT.

UH, THERE WERE SOME CHALLENGES AND I THINK THE PUSHBACK IS BENEFICIAL IN THAT WHAT WE, WHAT WE'RE WINDING UP WITH IS MAYBE A LITTLE BETTER THAN WHAT WE, UH, HAD OTHERWISE.

BUT, UH, THE UNIVERSAL DESIGN PIECE, WOW, THANK YOU.

UH, VERY BENEFICIAL FOR THE RESIDENTS, UH, WHO WILL BE CITIZENS OF PLANO.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.

OKAY.

UH, COMMISSIONER ALI, YOU FIRST.

UM, I ECHO AND I ALSO UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGE GIVEN THAT I THINK BASED ON OUR PAST CONVERSATIONS, WE DON'T HAVE PARTICULAR AIR MITIGATION THRESHOLDS AND WHAT HAVE YOU, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE WITH NOISE.

SO WE DON'T HAVE A TARGET FOR DEVELOPERS TO AIM FOR.

UM, SO THEM TAKING IT UPON THEMSELVES TO MEET US SOMEWHERE IS, IS APPRECIATIVE.

THE UNIVERSAL DESIGN PIECE, UH, OBVIOUSLY SPEAKS TO ME.

I HAVE TWO KIDS ON THE AUTISM SPECTRUM.

SO, UM, WHEN I THINK PLANO 2050, I THINK OF MY CHILD IN 30 YEARS.

AND IF THAT'S, UM, SOMETHING WE COULD INGRAIN INTO DEVELOPERS TO THINK RIGHT, UM, THAT FAR AHEAD, UM, APPRECIATIVE.

SO, UM, I VOTED AGAINST THE LAST TIME, UM, PRIMARILY DUE TO, UM, THE POLLUTION CONCERNS.

UM, THEY HAVE COME CLOSE ENOUGH FOR ME.

THANK YOU.

UH, LET'S SUE, WHO'S NEXT? COMMISSIONER CAREY.

YEAH.

AS, UM, AS, AS SOME OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SAID THAT THIS COMPANY'S WORKING HARD, UM, ON THIS, AND THERE'S A LOT OF POSITIVE THINGS HERE.

AND, UM, I GUESS FOR ME, I WISH IT WAS SOMEWHERE ELSE, BUT, BUT I'VE GOT A LOT OF CHALLENGES FOR THIS STILL, AND I, AND I WANNA TALK ABOUT 'EM.

UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT, UM, THIS CITY'S ENCOUNTERING RIGHT NOW IS OUR RETAIL IS OVERBUILT.

AND, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S GONNA BE A CHALLENGE AS THIS COMMISSION GOES FORWARD.

UM, AND AS I LOOK AT THE APARTMENTS IN THE AREA, WE'VE GOT 2,638 UNITS COMING AT US, PLUS ANOTHER SEVERAL HUNDRED AT JAY PLACE, AND SOME OTHERS I KNOW ARE ON THE HORIZON THAT ARE LIKELY TO GET APPROVED.

AND SO ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS, WILL WE DO THE SAME THING WITH MULTIFAMILY HERE THAT WE DID IN THE PAST WITH, UH, WITH RETAIL? SO I HAVE THAT CONCERN.

THE, THE, THE SECOND CONCERN I HAVE IS, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS OFFICE SPACE IS GONNA GET BUILT, AND, YOU

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AND SO I WONDER IF ULTIMATELY THE OFFICE SPACE DOES GET BUILT OR THEY COME BACK AND THEY SAY, HEY, GOSH, WE CAN'T DO IT.

LET'S BUILD THE REST OF THE APARTMENTS.

AND, AND I, I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT'S LIKELY.

SO I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT.

I MEAN, I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT IT NOT ALIGNING WITH RGM FIVE A R GM, FIVE B.

UM, SO I HAVE SOME CONCERNS WITH THOSE THINGS AMONG OTHERS, BUT, BUT MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS CAPTURED IN, IN WHAT, UH, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT SAYS, AND I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH IT.

AND THAT IS, IS THAT THE ZONING SHOULD REMAIN UNCHANGED BECAUSE THEY THINK THERE COULD BE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE BETTER ALIGNED WITH THE LONG-TERM VISION OF THE COMMUNITY.

AND THE REASON I BELIEVE THAT IS, IS BECAUSE JUST RECENTLY IN A SUNDAY NEWSPAPER, I SAW AN ARTICLE ABOUT ALL THE COMPANIES THAT ARE TARGETING NORTH TEXAS FOR, FOR CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS.

AND I DON'T THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER PIECES OF PROPERTY IN PLANO THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT AS WELL AS THIS.

AND WE JUST SAW THIS HAPPEN WITH, UH, WITH E D S UP THERE, AND THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT 30,000 MORE JOBS.

AND I PERSONALLY THINK FOR THE WELLBEING OF PLANO, IF IN FACT, AND MAYBE WE WAIT, AND I'VE HEARD ALL THE ARGUMENTS THAT, GOSH, IT'S BEEN SITTING THERE VACANT FOR A LONG TIME, BUT IT REALLY HASN'T BEEN THAT LONG, IN MY OPINION, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A 2050 PLAN AND BEYOND.

AND, AND I, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THERE'S ULTIMATELY A, POTENTIALLY A BETTER USE FOR THIS THAT'LL BE A BETTER ENGINE FOR OUR CITY WITH MAYBE MORE JOBS.

UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, FOR THOSE REASONS, AS, AS GOOD AS ALL THE THINGS THESE GUYS HAVE DONE, AND I, I WISH THIS WERE SOMEWHERE ELSE ELSE, BUT FOR ME, THE LAND USE HERE, THE ULTIMATE LAND USE IS THE ISSUE FOR ME.

AND IT, AND IT'S GONNA BE CHALLENGING.

I, I STILL DON'T BELIEVE I CAN SUPPORT THIS.

UM, AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY OPINION.

THANK YOU, UH, COMMISSIONER BRUNO.

I THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

UM, IN SAYING WHAT I'M GONNA SAY, I WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR THAT I AM NOT REFLEXIVELY OR FUNDAMENTALLY OPPOSED TO APARTMENTS.

THERE IS A PLACE FOR APARTMENTS.

I VOTED FOR SEVERAL CASES DURING MY TIME HERE ON THE COMMISSION THAT INVOLVED APARTMENT CONSTRUCTION SUCH AS J PLACE, SUCH AS, UH, E D S AT OUR LAST MEETING AND SO FORTH.

UM, MY THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS CASE INVOLVE, UH, CONSIDERATIONS SPECIFIC TO THIS SITE.

UM, I HAVE TO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER CAREY REGARDING THE NON-CONFORMITY WITH, UH, RGM FIVE A, FIVE B, UH, UM, I NOTED THAT THE, THE STAFF REPORT, UH, EMPHASIZED THE CITY'S LAND USE POLICIES AS, UH, UH, TO ENCOURAGING RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS IN WELL INTEGRATED AND THOUGHTFUL PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED NEIGHBORHOODS.

UH, OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ON DEFINING THE EXPRESSWAY CORRIDOR FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY, UH, STATES THAT THE EXPRESSWAY CORRIDOR IS EXPECTED TO INCLUDE A MIX OF RETAIL SERVICE, OFFICE, RESTAURANT, MEDICAL HOTEL, AND TECHNOLOGICALLY BASED USES.

UM, AN OFFICE BUILDING IS PROPOSED, BUT THREE TIMES NOW, THE APPLICANT HAS TOLD US THAT THE MARKET FOR, UH, OFFICE SPACE CONSTRUCTION IS VERY WEAK BACK IN MARCH.

HE SPECIFICALLY SAID BANKS ARE NOT AGREEING TO FINANCE THE CONSTRUCTION OF OFFICE SPACE, ESPECIALLY IN THIS PART OF TOWN.

UM, BACK ON MAY THE FIRST, HE WENT THROUGH A LIST OF NEARBY OFFICE PROPERTIES WITH HIGH VACANCY RATES.

SINCE THE, SINCE THE COVID PANDEMIC, UH, PEOPLE'S WORK HABITS HAVE CHANGED FUNDAMENTALLY THERE, THEY'RE NOW WORKING MORE AT HOME AND LESS OUT OF OFFICES.

UH, SO I, I SHARE COMMISSIONER CAREY'S DOUBTS AS TO WHETHER IT WILL BE FEASIBLE, UH, OR REALISTIC TO LOOK FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS OFFICE BUILDING ANYTIME SOON.

AND THE COMMISSIONER HAS SAID TWICE IN TWO MEETINGS THAT IF HE CAN'T BUILD THE OFFICE BUILDING, WE DON'T GET PHASE TWO APARTMENTS WITH IT BECAUSE THEY'RE TIED TOGETHER.

SO IF WE DON'T GET PHASE TWO APARTMENTS, WHAT WE DO GET IS PHASE ONE APARTMENT AND, AND THE SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED.

AND THAT'S IT.

UM, IN TERMS OF A WELL-INTEGRATED AND THOUGHTFUL PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED NEIGHBORHOOD, I, I DON'T SEE IT HERE.

WE'RE NOT GETTING, UM, RETAIL, WE'RE NOT GETTING SERVICE USES.

WE'RE NOT, UH, WE'RE NOT GETTING RESTAURANTS, MEDICAL, OR TECHNOLOGICALLY BASED USES.

UM, THERE'S NOTHING IN THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD'VE AN INTEGRATED WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHETHER IT'S THE STARBUCKS ON THE CORNER, UH, OR A GROCERY STORE NEARBY, OR A TAILOR SHOP, OR A DRY CLEANER OR ANYTHING THAT WOULD TEND TO MAKE A COMMUNITY, UM, WITH RESPECT TO THE SINGLE FAMILY.

ATTACHED THE STAFF'S COMMENTS, POINT OUT A CONCEPT CALLED PLACEMAKING.

AND I HAVE THE DESCRIPTION OF WHAT PLACEMAKING

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IT'S IN THE PACKET ON PAGE 67.

PLACEMAKING INVOLVES THE DEVELOPMENT OF PLACES DESIGNED, CONSTRUCTED, AND MAINTAINED TO STIMULATE AND PLEASE THE SENSES TO ENCOURAGE COMMUNITY USE AND TO PROMOTE CIVIC AND PERSONAL PRIDE.

BESIDES ALLOWING PEOPLE TO PERFORM ESSENTIAL FUNCTIONS SUCH AS EMPLOYMENT AND SHOPPING PLACES SHOULD BE ENJOYABLE, ENTERTAINING AND EDUCATIONAL SUCCESS IN PLACE MAKING LIES AND CONFIGURING SPACES AND STRUCTURES AND THE CONNECTIONS BETWEEN THEM IN A WAY THAT FACILITATES AND ENCOURAGES HUMAN ACTIVITY AND INTERACTION WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF COMMUNITY.

I DON'T SEE A LOT OF POTENTIAL FOR INTERACTION HERE BETWEEN THE APARTMENTS AND THE SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED.

I DON'T SEE THE, UH, POTENTIAL FOR A LOT OF INTERACTION BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL AND THE OFFICE BUILDING.

THE ONLY POTENTIAL INTERACTION I SEE HERE IS IF THE OFFICE BUILDING IS BUILT, THE HOTEL MIGHT INTERACT WITH THE OFFICE BUILDING FOR, YOU KNOW, BUSINESS TRAVEL RELATED TO THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE TAKING PLACE WITHIN THE OFFICE BUILDING.

BUT WITH NO OFFICE BUILDING, EVEN THAT DOESN'T EXIST.

UM, A BETTER, YOU KNOW, A DIFFERENT DESIGN OF THE SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED MIGHT BE A STEP TOWARD CREATING PLACEMAKING.

FOR EXAMPLE, IF THE SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED UNITS WERE CONSTRUCTED AROUND A CENTRAL, COMMON OPEN SPACE AREA, TO WHICH THEY ALL HAD DIRECT ACCESS, WHERE IT COULD BE A PLACE WHERE THE PEOPLE COULD INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER, THAT MIGHT BE A FORM OF, UH, YOU KNOW, A ONE STEP TOWARD PLACEMAKING.

FUNDAMENTALLY, WHAT I SEE HERE IS A BUNCH OF PARTS THAT DON'T NECESSARILY FIT TOGETHER, THAT ARE NOT RELATED TO EACH OTHER AND DON'T CREATE A COMMUNITY.

UM, THE STAFF POINTED OUT THAT THIS IS, THIS IS A PRIME LOCATION NEXT TO HIGHWAYS THAT, UM, UM, WOULD BE A, A PRIME LOCATION FOR A FUTURE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

AND I JUST ASSUME WAIT FOR A COMMERCIAL APPLICATION, EVEN, EVEN FROM THIS APPLICANT TO COME ALONG THAT WE COULD CONSIDER FAVORABLY.

FURTHERMORE, THE, UH, THE GREEN, THE OPEN SPACE IS NOT SCREENED FOR NOISE.

UH, THE MEASURED NOISE LEVELS ON THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED RESIDENCE THAT FACE THE OPEN SPACE ON THE NORTH AND ON THE EAST SIDE, ARE AS HIGH AS 73 AND A HALF DECIBELS.