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I NOW CALL THE JULY 17TH MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
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TO ORDER.PLEASE RISE AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST.
THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING IS TO ALLOW UP TO THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER WITH 30 TOTAL MINUTES ON ITEMS OF INTEREST OR CONCERN AND NOT ON ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE CURRENT AGENDA.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MAY NOT DISCUSS THESE ITEMS, BUT MAY RESPOND WITH FACTUAL OR POLICY INFORMATION.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA.
PRESIDING OFFICER MAY MODIFY THESE TIMES AS DEEMED NECESSARY.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? NO, WE DO NOT.
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CONSENT AGENDA AGENDA WILL BE ACTED UPON IN ONE MOTION AND CONTAINS ITEMS WHICH ARE ROUTINE AND TYPICALLY NON-CONTROVERSIAL ITEMS MAY BE REMOVED FROM THIS AGENDA FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION BY COMMISSIONERS OR STAFF.UM, WE JUST WANTED TO MENTION WE HAVE A FEW ITEMS ON THIS PLAN THAT NEED TO BE CLARIFIED.
SO, UH, EXCUSE ME, AGENDA ITEM E ON YOUR CONSENT AGENDA, UH, NEEDS A LITTLE CLARIFICATION.
SO STAFF REQUEST THAT YOU, UH, WITHDRAW THAT ITEM TONIGHT.
WE'LL BRING IT BACK IN A FUTURE MEETING.
SO WE WILL HAVE A MOTION, PLEASED TO PROVE CONSENT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM E, SECOND PEN.
WHO'S MAKING THE MOTION? OH, I THOUGHT YOU MADE THE MOTION.
I SAID I WILL ACCEPT A MOTION, SO THAT'S FINE.
WE'LL, WE'LL CALL, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.
COMMISSIONER CARRIE IS, UH, MOVED TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM E WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.
BRUNO, DO WE DARE RISK THIS? OKAY.
MR. LYLE, WHAT IS YOUR VOTE? COMMISSIONER LYLE, APPROVED.
SO WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE A, A VOTE OF SIX TO ZERO.
TO PROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA, PLEASE NOTE THAT WE HAVE MR. LYLE, COMMISSIONER LYLE JOINING US, UH, VIRTUALLY.
COMMISSIONER BROSKY AND COMMISSIONER TONG.
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ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS, UNLESS INSTRUCTED OTHERWISE BY THE CHAIR, SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED UPON IN THE ORDER REGISTRATIONS ARE RECEIVED.
APPLICANTS ARE LIMITED TO A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES OF PRESENTATION TIME WITH A FIVE MINUTE REBUTTAL IF NEEDED.
REMAINING SPEAKERS ARE LIMITED TO 30 TOTAL MINUTES OF TESTIMONY TIME WITH THREE MINUTES ASSIGNED PER SPEAKER.
THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY MODIFY THESE TIMES AS DEEMED NECESSARY.
ADMINISTRATIVE CONSIDERATION ITEMS MUST BE APPROVED IF THEY MEET CITY DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
LEGISLATIVE CONSIDERATION ITEMS ARE MORE DISCRETIONARY EXCEPT AS CONSTRAINED BY LEGAL CONSIDERATIONS.
AGENDA ITEM ONE, A DISCUSSION AND ACTION REQUEST TO REPEAL IN ITS ENTIRETY.
ORDINANCE NUMBER 2 0 9 DASH SIX DASH 10, THEREBY RESCINDING THE THOROUGHFARE STANDARDS, RULES AND REGULATIONS TOGETHER WITH ALL AMENDMENTS THERETO AND ADOPTING THE STREET DESIGN STANDARDS.
MIKE BELL, CONFERENCE PLANNING MANAGER STAFF WILL BE REQUESTING TO TABLE ITEMS ONE A, ONE B, ONE C, AND ONE D TO THE AUGUST 21ST, 2023 MEETING.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
UH, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON ITEMS ONE? A, B, C CHAIRMAN? D CHAIRMAN? YES, SIR.
UH, I NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM THE THOROUGHFARE STANDARDS PORTION OF THE MEETING.
DOES ANY TURN OFF HIS CAMERA TOO, OR JUST, UH, UM, YEAH, IT WOULD BE BEST TO TURN OFF THE CAMERA, LEAVE THE ZOOM MEETING ALTOGETHER, AND THEN REJOIN.
OKAY, SO, UM, DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS? IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM.
I STILL WANNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THE TABLE? JUST ONE MORE OF A CURIOSITY MODE, AND THEN THE VIDEO ON THE PLANO COMP PLAN.ORG/STREETS, WHICH I FOUND VERY INFORMATIVE IS, DO WE NOTIFY THE PUBLIC THAT THAT KIND OF INFORMATION IS ON OUR WEBSITE OR IS JUST LOCK OF THE DRAWER? WHO, OH, YES, WE'VE HAD FACEBOOK POSTS, WE'VE HAD SOCIAL MEDIA, UM, EMAIL BLASTS, ALL SORTS OF,
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OF COMMUNICATION, DIRECTING THEM TO THAT WEBSITE.UM, JUST ONE GENERIC QUESTION, AND YOU MAY BE GONNA PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION.
I THINK, AT LEAST IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, A LOT OF THE DISCUSSION IS ABOUT SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR DOWNTOWN.
AND I, I KNOW THAT THERE, YOU'VE PROBABLY GOTTEN A LOT OF FEEDBACK ON THAT.
ARE WE GONNA GET A BRIEFING BETWEEN NOW AND THE 21ST ABOUT ANY REVISIONS OR ANY FEEDBACK OR ANY, UM, UH, KIND OF REACTION OR COMMENTARY ON SOME OF THE CONCERNS OF THE DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY STAFF IS PREPARED TO PROVIDE THAT BRIEFING ON AUGUST 21ST? IT COULD PROVIDE IT EARLIER IF NEEDED.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THE, ON ITEM ONE A, B, C, OR DO YOU NO, WE DO NOT.
JUST TO CLARIFY, CAN WE MAKE ONE MOTION TO COVER ALL FOUR OF THESE ITEMS FOR TABLING PURPOSES? YES.
WOULD YOU, WOULD, WOULD IT PLEASE THE CHAIR FOR ME TO REACH, READ EACH ONE SO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE VOTING ON, OR JUST DO IT AS A WHOLE? I, I THINK THEY'RE ALL RELATED TO THOROUGHFARE PLAN.
I, I THINK THAT'S SUFFICIENT ENOUGH.
THEY'LL ALL BE BROUGHT BACK THE SAME WAY IN THE FUTURE.
IF THEY WERE GONNA BE PULLED APART, THEN I WOULD HAVE A MORE CONCERN.
WE POSTPONE ITEMS ONE A, ONE B, ONE C, AND ONE D TO THE AUGUST 21ST MEETING TABLE.
UH, TABLE IT UNTIL THE AUGUST 21ST MEETING.
ALL RIGHT, SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RATLIFF FOR THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER OLLIE TO TABLE ITEMS ONE A, ONE B, ONE C, AND ONE D TO THE AUGUST 21ST MEETING.
AND THAT ITEM CARRIES FIVE TO ZERO IS MR. LOG REJOINED.
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TWO, A AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO, A PUBLIC HEARING ZONING CASE.2023 DASH ZERO THREE, REQUEST TO REZONE 99.0 ACRES LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF LEGACY DRIVE AND PARKWOOD BOULEVARD.
FROM COMMERCIAL EMPLOYMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT, COMMERCIAL EMPLOYMENT ZONE COMMERCIAL EMPLOYMENT, PETITIONER IS E D S LEGACY PARTNERS, L L C.
THIS IS FOR LEGISLATIVE CONSIDERATION.
MY NAME IS KATCHA COPELAND AND I'M A SENIOR PLANNER WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
THIS REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM COMMERCIAL EMPLOYMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT COMMERCIAL EMPLOYMENT FOR MIDRISE RESIDENTIAL AND MODIFIED VARIOUS DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS TO CREATE A MIXED USE OFFICE CAMPUS.
THE SURROUNDING ZONING IS COMMERCIAL EMPLOYMENT TO THE NORTH, EAST AND SOUTH, AND DEVELOPED WITH PROFESSIONAL SLASH GENERAL ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES TO THE WEST IS ZONED PLAN DEVELOPMENT 65 CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT ONE AND IS DEVELOPED WITH MULTIFAMILY RESIDENCES, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE ATTACHED LOTS, A BANK AND RESTAURANT USES.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW ON THE SCREEN.
THIS IS THE OLD HEADQUARTERS FOR THE ELECTRONIC DATA SYSTEMS, ALSO KNOWN AS E D S.
THE AERIAL SHOWS THE PRIMARY BUILDING IN THE CENTER OF THE PROPERTY EXTENDING EAST WITH PARKING GARAGES TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH SURROUNDED BY OPEN SPACE.
SHOWN ON THE SCREEN IS THE COMPANION PRELIMINARY SIDE PLAN FOR THIS DISCUSSION.
A COLOR HAS BEEN ASSIGNED WITH THE LAND USE ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
THE RED COLOR IS THE HOTEL AND PARKING GARAGE.
THE YELLOW IS MID-RISE RESIDENTIAL AND THE PARKING GARAGES, THE LIGHT GREEN IS THE OPEN SPACE.
THE DARK GREEN IS THE PROPOSED DETENTION POND.
THE BLUE IS THE PROFESSIONAL SLASH GENERAL ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES HELIPAD AND PARKING.
AND FINALLY, THE PURPLE COLOR IS THE MODERATE INTENSITY MANUFACTURING AND PARKING GARAGES.
ON THE SCREEN IS THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE PSP THAT FRONT'S LEGACY DRIVE AND PARKWOOD BOULEVARD.
BOTH OF THESE STREETS ARE CLASSIFIED AS A TYPE C THOROUGHFARE ON THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN MAP.
NOW WE SEE THE MIDDLE PORTION OF THE PROPERTY THAT FRONTS PARKWOOD BOULEVARD.
AND NOW ON THE SCREEN IS THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY THAT FRONTS PARKWOOD BOULEVARD AND TENNYSON PARKWAY.
TENNYSON PARKWAY IS ALSO CLASSIFIED AS A TYPE C TYPE C THOROUGH AFFAIR.
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THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS DESIGNATED EMPLOYMENT CENTER ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP TAKEN AS A WHOLE.THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE EM DASHBOARD, THE EASTERN AND CENTRAL PORTIONS OF THE SITE AS HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SCREEN INCLUDE CORPORATE OFFICE, CAMPUS RESEARCH, FACILITIES, AND MANUFACTURING, WHICH ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE EM DASHBOARD.
THE WESTERN PORTION HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW ON THE SCREEN INCLUDES A HIGHER INTENSITY MIXED USE FORM THAT IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE EM DESCRIPTION.
AS STATED, RESIDENTIAL USES ARE NOT APPROPRIATE WITHIN THE EM CATEGORY.
A HIGHER INTENSITY MIXED USE FORM IS MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE URBAN ACTIVITY CENTER.
LEGACY TOWN CENTER DEVELOPMENT IS LOCATED DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM PARKWOOD BOULEVARD TO THE WEST AND IS DESIGNATED AS UA.
SHOULD THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FIND THE MIXED USE ASPECTS APPROPRIATE IN THIS INSTANT DUE TO PROXIMITY OF THE LEGACY TOWN CENTER, IT MAY BE HELPFUL TO ANALYZE THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE SITE REGARDING CONSISTENCY WITH THE UA DASHBOARD.
LOOKING AT IT FROM THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER PERSPECTIVE, SOLELY THE REQUEST MEETS SOME OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICIES, BUT NOT ALL OF THEM.
THIS REQUEST IS DISFAVOR DUE TO THE LACK OF CONFORMITY WITH THE RGM ONE.
THIS REQUEST IS NOT CONFORM TO THE EM LAND USE HOUSING MIX AND DENSITY RECOMMENDATIONS.
RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL SHOULD BE CAREFULLY DELIBERATED AND JUSTIFIED BY FINDINGS.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A MASTER PLAN WITH THE NON-RESIDENTIAL AND RESIDENTIAL USES ALONGSIDE NEW AND EXISTING BUILDINGS AND DEVELOPMENT FEATURES.
THE REQUEST PROVIDES PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED STANDARDS, LANDSCAPING AMENITIES, AND PUBLIC OPEN SPACE.
AS NOTED IN THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT STIPULATIONS, THE APPLICANT IS COMMITTING TO MAINTAINING THE HISTORIC CENTERPIECE OFFICE BUILDING.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING IN THE PD STIPULATIONS A MAXIMUM OF 775 MIDRISE RESIDENTIAL UNITS IN THREE BUILDINGS SITUATED WITHIN 250 FEET OF PARKWOOD BOULEVARD.
THE BUILDINGS WILL ENCOMPASS A MIX OF EFFICIENCIES, ONE, TWO, AND THREE BEDROOM UNITS WITH 50% OF THE UNITS REQUIRING A TRUE BALCONY OR PATIO.
WITH STRUCTURED PARKING ON THE FIRST FEW FLOORS, A REDUCED BUILDING SETBACK IS SHOWN AS A PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
THE PD LANGUAGE SPECIFIES THAT A LONG PARKWOOD BOULEVARD BUILDINGS ARE ALLOWED A MINIMUM SETBACK OF 30 FEET FOR ANY PORTIONS OF THE BUILDINGS UP TO 50 FEET.
ANY PORTIONS OF BUILDING HIGHER THAN 50 FEET WILL REQUIRE A MINIMUM 50 FOOT FRONT YARD SETBACK.
THIS REDUCED SETBACK WILL CREATE A DIFFERENT AESTHETIC OTHER THAN PROPERTIES WITHIN THE LEGACY BUSINESS PARK, WHICH MAINTAIN A 50 FOOT FRONT YARD SETBACK.
THE PROPOSED BUILDINGS ARE CURRENTLY SHOWN AT SEVEN STORIES MUCH LARGER THAN THE BUILDINGS TO THE WEST ACROSS PARKWOOD BOULEVARD, WHICH ARE TWO TO FOUR STORIES IN HEIGHT.
THE PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN SHOWS THE ABILITY TO ACCOMMODATE THE ADDITIONAL 10 FEET, AND WITH THAT STAFF RECOMMENDS INCREASING THE FRONT YARD SETBACK ALONG PARKWOOD TO 40 FEET.
THE PSP SHOWS ALMOST 800,000 SQUARE FEET OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY DEDICATED TO MODERATE INTENSITY MANUFACTURING.
THIS TYPE OF USE CAN BE IMPACTFUL TO RESIDENTS AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO PROHIBIT THIS USE USE WITHIN 700 FEET OF PARKWOOD.
ADDING A PD STANDARD ALLOWS THE EXISTING HELIPORT AND HELI STOP TO BE ON THE SAME LOT AS THE MID-RISE RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
NOTING, HOWEVER, THAT THEY MUST BE A MINIMUM OF 1000 FEET AWAY FROM THESE BUILDINGS AND STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THESE ADDITIONAL RESTRICTIONS.
THE PHASING STIPULATIONS ARE ON THE SCREEN AND WILL ENSURE THAT THE PROPERTY, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HAS NON-RESIDENTIAL USES.
IN ADDITION TO OPEN SPACE BEFORE THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE MIDRISE RESIDENTIAL AND HOTEL DEVELOPMENT STAFF SUPPORTS THE PHASING STANDARDS AND BELIEVES THEY ARE COMMITTED TO ESTABLISHING A LARGE NON-RESIDENTIAL PRESENCE ON THE, ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
AN OPEN SPACE PLAN WAS SUBMITTED WITH THIS REQUEST.
A TOTAL OF 9.5 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR RESIDENTS, EMPLOYEES, AND VISITORS TO ENJOY.
WHEN COMPLETED, THIS DEDICATION CONSTITUTES TO 10.4% OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
AND AS PREVIOUSLY NOTED, WITHIN THE PHASING SECTION OF THE PD STIPULATIONS, SEVEN ACRES MUST BE OPEN, UH, OPEN FOR USE BEFORE ANY MID-RISE.
RESIDENTIAL IS CON CONSTRUCTION BEGINS.
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A LARGE COMMITMENT.HOWEVER, STAFF BELIEVES THERE IS ALSO A MISSED OPPORTUNITY AS THE TWO ACRES OF LAND HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW ON THE SCREEN ARE NOT BEING COUNTED FOR IN THIS OPEN SPACE PLAN.
THE ZONING REQUEST INCLUDES A LARGE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT, REDUCED SETBACKS AND OTHER DEVELOPMENT ALLOWANCES.
THIS OPEN SPACE PLAN SHOWS THE AREA AS OPEN SPACE, IT'S JUST NOT BEING COUNTED FOR.
THIS PORTION WOULD INCREASE THE OPEN SPACE TOTAL TO 11.5 ACRES IF THE COMMISSION RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS ZONING.
STAFF RECOMMENDS THE REMAINING AREA BE INCLUDED IN THE REQUIRED OPEN SPACE.
STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE ADDITIONAL PD STIPULATIONS, IDENTIFYING SCREENING HEIGHT DESIGN, DETAILS OF THE PARKING GARAGES.
A PUBLIC, A QUASI-PUBLIC STREET, IS PROPOSED WITH PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED ELEMENTS.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING DECORATIVE METAL PANELS TO CREATE A UNIQUE AESTHETIC FOR SCREENING METHODS FOCUSED ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY AND THE DEVELOPMENT WILL MEET BUILDING MATERIAL REQUIREMENTS AS, UH, AS NOTED IN ARTICLE 23 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE ON THE SCREEN.
AND THE FOLLOWING SIX, SIX PAGES ARE ALL OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT STIPULATIONS FOR THIS CASE.
I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THE STIPULATIONS AS MANY OF THEM HAVE BEEN MENTIONED IN EARLIER SLIDES, BUT I WILL SHOW THEM ALL ON THE SCREEN.
THIS IS THE FIRST STIPULATION.
SECOND AND THIRD STIPULATION REMAINING OF THE THIRD STIPULATION, FOURTH STIPULATION, FIFTH AND SIXTH.
WE RECEIVED TWO UNIQUE RESPONSES WITHIN THE 200 FOOT BUFFER, ONE IN SUPPORT AND ONE IN OPPOSITION.
AND WE RECEIVED 37 UNIQUE RESPONSES.
TWO IN SUPPORT, ONE NEUTRAL AND 34 IN OPPOSITION.
WE RECEIVED THREE DUPLICATE RESPONSES AND ONE RESPONSE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF PLANO FOR A TOTAL OF 40 RESPONSES.
TO SUMMARIZE, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM COMMERCIAL EMPLOYMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT COMMERCIAL EMPLOYMENT TO ALLOW MID-RISE RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND MODIFY VARIOUS DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS TO CREATE A MIS MIXED USE OFFICE CAMPUS.
THIS REQUEST IS DISFAVORED BECAUSE THE PROPOSAL LACKS CONFORMITY WITH KEY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICIES.
THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO ALIGN THE ZONING LANGUAGE MORE FULLY WITH THE ASSOCIATED P S P REGARDING OPEN SPACE AND SETBACKS.
SHOULD THE COMMISSION CHOOSE TO SUPPORT THIS REQUEST, STAFF RECOMMENDS CONSIDERATION OF THE TWO REMAINING ISSUES AND HOW THEY COULD BENEFIT FUTURE RESIDENTS, VISITORS, AND EMPLOYEES.
THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS NOTING THE APPLICANT IS HERE WITH THE PRESENTATION AS WELL.
DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THE FRONT END OF THIS, MR. BERNOFF? YES.
UM, IN READING THE MATERIALS, I SAW A REFERENCE TO AN INTENT TO BUILD A CANCER HOSPITAL ON THIS SITE.
IS THAT CORRECT? THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, BUT WE DO HAVE THE MODERATE INTENSITY MANUFACTURING ALONG WITH OFFICE DEVELOPMENT AND RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT BUILDINGS PROPOSED ON THE PSP.
I'M, NO, I'M WONDERING WHERE THE HOSPITAL WOULD WOULD GO.
WHICH BUILDING IS THE HOSPITAL BUILDING? SO WE DON'T HAVE A HOSPITAL SHOWN ON THE PLAN RIGHT NOW.
THAT MAY BE A PART OF THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSAL, BUT IT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THIS CURRENT PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN.
SO THAT WOULD BE A GOOD QUESTION FOR THEM.
WOULD IT BE CONSISTENT WITH THE ZONING THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING IF THEY DECIDE TO BUILD A HOSPITAL? UH, WE CAN CONFIRM THE HOSPITAL IS ALLOWED IN THAT ZONING DISTRICT.
GIMME JUST A MINUTE TO CHECK THAT OUT.
WHAT IS THE, WHEREIN IS THE NEED FOR A HELIPAD OR A HELLA STOP.
THE HELLA STOP IS EXISTING AND IT IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
I MEAN, IS THE APPLICANT PROPOSING SOME USE THAT THAT REQUIRES HELICOPTERS? THEY ARE HERE TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS ON, UH, HOW OFTEN THEY MAY USE HELICOPTERS IN HELI STOPS.
BUT CURRENTLY IN OUR ZONING ORDINANCE, WE DO NOT ALLOW HELIPADS AND HELI STOPS WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET OF A LOT THAT PERTAINS RESIDENTIAL.
AND SO WITH THIS REQUEST AS ONE LARGE LOT, THERE WOULD BE RESIDENTIAL WITHIN THE SAME PROPERTY AS A HELIPAD.
HOWEVER, THAT'S WHY THE APPLICANT ADDED THAT STIPULATION TO NOTE IT MUST BE AT LEAST A THOUSAND FEET AWAY FROM THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT OF
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THE PROPERTY, BUT IT'S STILL ON THE SAME LOT.SO WE, WE NEEDED TO ADD THAT STIPULATION IN ORDER FOR THE APPLICANT TO KEEP THE HELIPAD.
SO YOU'RE SAYING THERE IS AN EXISTING HELIPAD NOW? THERE IS.
AND FINALLY, UH, YOU ARE SUGGESTING THE AVAILABILITY OF ANOTHER 10 FEET OF SETBACK OFF OF OR OFF OF PARKWOOD.
WHERE WOULD THAT 10 FEET COME FROM? WHAT ADJUSTMENT WOULD THEY HAVE TO MAKE TO THEIR SITE PLAN IN ORDER TO GENERATE THOSE EXTRA 10 FEET ON THE SITE PLAN? THERE IS SOME AVAILABILITY THAT THEY COULD INCREASE THAT SETBACK, BUT THERE WOULD LIKELY BE CHANGES THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY.
TO BE NOTED ON THE PSP? WELL, I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT WOULD THEY HAVE TO, LET'S SAY, GIVE UP IN, IN TERMS OF SPACE IN ORDER TO REDEDICATE SPACE TO THE, TO AN ADDITIONAL 10 FEET OF SETBACK? SO THE, THE BUILDING IS ALMOST AT THAT SETBACK RIGHT NOW.
THERE'S JUST, IT'S JUST A FEW FEET OFF.
THERE'S ONE SETBACK THAT I THINK IS, WE HAVE IT IN, IN THE REPORT BETWEEN 35, 30 35 FEET AND THE REST ARE CLOSER TO 40 FEET.
THEY MAY HAVE TO SLIDE THE BUILDING SLIGHTLY TO THE EAST, BUT THERE IS ROOM EAST OF THE BUILDING TO MOVE IT THAT DIRECTION.
WITHOUT COMPROMISING THE PEDESTRIAN OPEN SPACE WALKWAYS OPEN OR THE SEMI-PRIVATE ROAD OR, OR THE, OR THE, OR, OR THE TREES THAT THEY'RE GONNA PLANT THERE? THAT'S CORRECT.
I DO WANNA MENTION HOSPITAL IS AN ALLOWED USE IN THE COMMERCIAL EMPLOYMENT DISTRICT.
COMMISSIONER KERRY? YEAH, JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION.
UM, THERE'S, UH, SOMETHING REFERENCED IN HERE ABOUT CHALLENGES WITH WASTEWATER AND I WONDER IF YOU COULD ADDRESS THOSE CHALLENGES AND WHAT PLANO MIGHT HAVE TO DO TO, TO RESOLVE THOSE IF A FACT THIS MOVES FORWARD? I'D HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT.
I, LET ME READ THE STAFF REPORT AND SEE WHAT I, WHAT WE CAN SHARE WITH YOU.
I, I, I THINK I CAN, I MEAN, THERE'S NOT, UH, REFINED INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT WILL WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO STUDY THE WASTEWATER SITUATION.
AND IF IMPROVEMENTS ARE NEEDED, THEN THAT WOULD BE WHEN THAT DISCUSSION WILL BE HAD.
SO WE DON'T HAVE A STUDY RIGHT NOW THAT SHOWS THE EXACT WASTEWATER INFORMATION IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.
SO, UH, WE, WE DON'T HAVE INFORMATION TO SHARE IT WITH YOU AT THIS TIME.
HOW MUCH RISK MIGHT THAT PRESENT TO THIS KNOWING THAT WE ALREADY HAVE SOME WASTEWATER MM-HMM.
DO YOU HAVE AN OPINION ON HOW SIGNIFICANT THOSE CHALLENGES MIGHT BE? I THINK IT'S SITE SPECIFIC.
THE APPLICANT'S ENGINEER IS AVAILABLE TO SEE THINGS, SO SHE MAY HAVE SOME INFORMATION ON THAT.
UM, JUST TO SUMMARIZE WHAT I THINK I'M READING IN YOUR REPORT, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THERE ARE REALLY, IN ADDITION TO THE PD RESTRICTIONS THAT YOU WENT THROUGH AND THEY'RE IN THE REPORT, YOU'RE SAYING THAT TWO ADDITIONAL, UH, IF WE'RE TO MOVE FORWARD THAT YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO CHANGE FROM A 30 SLASH 50 FOOT SETBACK TO JUST STRAIGHT 40 AND THE ALSO THE ADDITIONAL PARKLAND.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT I MISSED IN THERE THAT WOULD BE IN ADDITION TO THE, UM, PD LANGUAGE? THOSE ARE THE TWO ITEMS THAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING.
AND SO TALK ME THROUGH THE 30 THEN 50 FOOT SETBACK VERSUS JUST A 40 STRAIGHT UP.
I UNDERSTAND AT THE STREET LEVEL THE EXTRA 10 FEET, BUT, BUT YOU SAID SOMETHING IN YOUR PRESENTATION ABOUT THE 50 FOOT ABOVE 50 FEET WOULD PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL ARCHITECTURAL, UM, CHARACTER, I THINK WAS THE WORD YOU USED, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT.
IF WE DID STRAIGHT 40, COULD IT THEN BE JUST A FLAT FACE BUILDING OR WHAT, UM, WHAT ARE THE GUIDELINES THERE? UH, JUST TO CLARIFY, WE'RE NOT PROPOSING A STRAIGHT 40 FOOT.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A STAGGERED SETBACK STARTING AT 30, AND THAT WOULD BE TWO STORY MAXIMUM HEIGHT BETWEEN 30 AND 50 FEET.
AND THEN A TRADITIONAL 50 FOOT SETBACK WE'RE WE'RE SAYING THAT 30 FOOT SHOULD BE 40.
THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
CAUSE THAT WASN'T THE WAY I WAS HEARING IT, SO THANK YOU.
UH, JUST A QUESTION ON, UM, IT'S CLASH WITH RGM ONE.
UM, CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH THAT AGAIN? UH, JUST TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND, WHAT, WHAT A, IF ANY, UH, MITIGATION FACTORS COULD BE, UM, PROPOSED TO THE APPLICANT? OR ARE THERE NO WAYS OUT OF ITS BEING DISFAVORED WITH RGM ONE? SURE.
MR. BELL CAN DISCUSS THE COMP PLAN.
SO RGM ONE SPEAKS TO REQUESTS THAT DO NOT COMPLY WITH MIXED USES, HEIGHT OR DENSITY OR DISFAVORED.
THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER CATEGORY IS VERY CLEAR THAT RESIDENTIAL USES
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ARE NOT SUPPORTED.COMMISSIONER LYLE, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? UH, I, I DO.
I JUST GOT A QUESTION FOR ERIC.
IF, IF THE ZONING THAT WAS TO THE EAST THAT I BELIEVE STOPS IN THE MIDDLE OF PARKWOOD WAS CONTINUED, I'M SORRY, THE ZONING TO THE WEST THAT STOPS IN THE MIDDLE OF PARKWOOD WAS CONTINUED TO THE EAST INTO THIS SITE, WOULD THE MULTIFAMILY BILL OUT AT THAT POINT OR WOULD THE COMP PLAN ALLOW IT, I SHOULD SAY? WELL, SO I THINK WE'RE TALKING TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
SO THE ZONING TO THE WEST IS FOR THE SHOPS AT LEGACY, IT DOES ALLOW MULTIFAMILY USES.
SO IF THIS PROPERTY WAS ZONED WITH THE SAME ZONING AS THAT PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, MULTIFAMILY WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY.
UM, I THINK YOU MENTIONED THE COMP PLAN.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS A LAND USE DESIGNATION AND THAT IS DIFFERENT ON THE SHOP'S LEGACY PROPERTY THAN ON THIS PROPERTY.
SO THERE'S THE ZONING AND, AND THE, AND THE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
SO ONE IS A ZONING DISTRICT AND THE OTHER IS A CONFERENCE OF PLAN, UM, DISTRICT, IF YOU WILL.
SO DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? AM I ANSWERING THAT AS YOU'RE ASKING IT? IT DOES.
AND, AND JUST TO LET THE COMMISSION KNOW WHAT I'M GETTING AT, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A VIABLE, UM, OPTION, BUT IF I'M JUST WONDERING WHEN IT MAKES SENSE TO LOOK AT THE COMP PLAN AND POTENTIALLY UPDATE THE COMP PLAN, IF, UH, MY HEART IS TO NOT ALWAYS GO AGAINST THE COMP PLAN.
I WANT TO GIVE IT PROPER RESPECT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME IT'S COMING UP ON TWO YEARS OLD AND I JUST WONDER IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULDN'T BE LOOKED AT, UM, VERSUS MAKING FINDINGS AGAINST IT ON A REGULAR BASIS.
UH, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OTHER QUESTIONS SPECIFIC TO THE DEVELOPMENT? OKAY, SO I DON'T, I'M NOT HEARING ANY ADDITIONAL COMMISSIONER RATLIFF? YES.
UM, SO KIND OF ON THE SAME AS COMMISSIONER LYLE'S THINKING, IF YOU LOOK AT ONE, ONE OF YOUR SLIDES HAD THE BLUE AND THE YELLOW, THE SAME ONE THAT'S IN THE REPORT, IF YOU CAN PUT THAT UP ON THE SCREEN.
I'M NOT SURE IF THAT THERE YOU, THAT'S CLOSE ENOUGH.
THAT'S THE ONE I WAS THINKING ABOUT.
SO I GUESS MY, MY QUESTION, AND I'M NOT SURE WHO THIS QUESTION IS FOR ERIC, BUT IF, IF THE FRONTAGE OF THIS TRACT, THE FIRST A HUNDRED FEET OR WHATEVER THAT IS, HAD BEEN SHOWN IN THE COMP PLAN AS UA, WOULD WE EVEN BE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION, I GUESS WOULD BE MY QUESTION, MR. BELL, DO YOU WANNA YES.
SO IF THAT WERE UA, IT WOULD MEET MANY OF THE COMP PLAN RECOMMENDATIONS FOR UA, EXCEPT I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT IT STILL WOULD NOT COMPLY WITH THE HOUSING MIX, WHICH IS PART OF THE MIX OF USES, BECAUSE THAT'S BASED ON UNIT COUNTS, NOT ACREAGE.
AND SO IT IS ALREADY ABOVE THE PERCENTAGE THAT UA, WHICH INCLUDES ALL OF LEGACY GRANITE PARK LEGACY WEST, IS ALREADY ABOVE THE AMOUNT OF MULTIFAMILY TYPES THAT'S RECOMMENDED FOR THE UA CATEGORY.
SO EVEN IF THIS LAND AREA WAS INCLUDED, IT WOULD, THAT WOULD NOT CHANGE AND IT WOULD STILL REQUIRE FINDINGS TO APPROVE THAT CASE.
I, I WASN'T FOLLOWING THAT IN THE REPORT, SO THAT HELPS ME.
UM, I HAVE A QUICK ONE AND JUST SO THAT, AND I'M SURE THE APPLICANT WILL TALK TO THIS JUST A LITTLE BIT, BUT FROM OUR STANDPOINT, MODERATE INTENSITY INDUSTRIAL, WHAT KIND OF RANGE DOES THAT COVER? I MEAN, I WILL THERE BE, I MEAN, I THINK I HAVE AN IDEA WHAT THE APPLICANT'S GONNA PROPOSE, BUT FROM OUR POINT OF VIEW, I THINK OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL LIKE WE HAVE OVER IN THE, YOU KNOW, RT DISTRICT AND STUFF LIKE THAT, WE'RE DROPPING, IF YOU USE THE WORD IN INDUSTRIAL IN THIS AREA, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS.
AND OTHERS MAY AS WELL BE, WAIT A MINUTE, WHAT ARE WE DOING OVER HERE? IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, PUTTING TOGETHER CIRCUIT BOARDS IS ONE THING, IF IT'S, SURE.
WE HAVE THREE CATEGORIES OF MANUFACTURING, LIGHT, MODERATE, AND HEAVY.
UM, LIGHT HAS VERY LIMITED FABRICATION, LIMITED REFINEMENT OF MATERIALS, MODERATE, MODERATE REFINEMENT, MODERATE, UM, PRODUCTION OF MATERIALS.
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IS, IS REALLY WHAT YOU THINK OF AS, YOU KNOW, SERIOUS MANUFACTURING.SO THE, THE ZONING ORDINANCE IS A LITTLE BIT, UM, IT, IT ALLOWS SOME INTERPRETATION IN THOSE USES.
WE DID TALK WITH THE APPLICANT ABOUT THEIR OPERATIONS, AND AS WE DISCUSSED IT, WE DETERMINED THAT IT FALLS UNDER THE MODERATE CATEGORY.
UM, WHICH DOES HAVE, YOU KNOW, IT MAY CREATE SOME IMPACTS, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT RESIDENTIAL USES.
WHICH IS WHY IN THIS CASE, UH, WE WORK WITH THEM AND THEY'RE RESTRICTING THE LOCATION OF THAT USE CLOSER TO THE EAST SIDE, FURTHER AWAY FROM THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS.
SO WE DO BELIEVE THAT THEIR OPERATIONS, IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE MIX THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING ON SITE, UM, WITH, YOU KNOW, ALSO OFFICE, OTHER, OTHER COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL USES.
AND WITH THE STANDARDS THEY'RE PROPOSING, UH, WE DO THINK IT'S GOING TO BE, UH, UH, AN EFFECTIVE DEVELOPMENT WITH THE INCLUSION OF RESIDENTIAL.
AND THAT LEADS ME TO MY POINT, WHICH WAS THE INDICATION WAS THAT THE MODERATE, UH, INTENSITY INDUSTRIAL WOULD BE AT LEAST 700 FEET FROM PARKWOOD.
YOU HAVE A FLY OR SOMETHING IN HERE FROM PARKWOOD, IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? CORRECT.
BUT THE RESIDENTIAL IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF PARKWOOD.
SO IS IT GONNA BE 700 FEET FROM PARKWOOD OR 700 FEET FROM THE RESIDENTIAL? AND IF IT'S 700 FEET FROM THE RESIDENTIAL, WHAT DOES OUR ZONING ORDINANCE REQUIRE THE DISTANCE TO BE BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND THE MODERATE INDUSTRY? UH, MODERATE INTENSITY INDUSTRIAL.
IT'LL BE 700 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE AND THE RESIDENTIAL NEEDS TO BE CONSTRUCTED WITHIN 250 FEET OF PARKWOOD BOULEVARD.
SO THERE WILL BE A SEPARATION.
THE, THE ORDINANCE DOESN'T HAVE A SPECIFICATION BETWEEN THESE TWO LAND USES.
UM, SO WE, WE APPLIED WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS A REASONABLE DIMENSION, UM, WITH THE PROPOSED BUILDINGS AND SITE DESIGN.
AND SO ESSENTIALLY THERE'S A, I THINK A 450 FOOT DIMENSION.
UM, TYPICALLY WHEN THE CITY HAS USES THAT MAY BE IMPACTFUL TO RESIDENTS, AROUND 300 TO 500 FEET IS, IS A NORMAL DISTANCE THAT WE APPLY THAT, THAT HELPS ME GET A SENSE OF WHAT DO WE TYPICALLY DO? AND, UH, OF COURSE WE DON'T KNOW BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE DESIGNING THIS OR IF IT'S APPROVED, WE'RE GIVING THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE THAT TYPE OF OPERATION GOING ON.
BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NEXT PERSON COMING IN, WHAT THAT SAME ALLOWANCE WOULD DO.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE KEEPING SOME GAP THERE BETWEEN THAT, SO.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OH, COMMISSIONER KERRY.
YEAH, SO, UM, COULD YOU BE, YOU KNOW, THIS COMMISSION I THINK WISELY FREQUENTLY, UH, LOOKS AT NOISE AND OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES.
COULD YOU GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE TEXTURE ON WHAT THESE GUYS ACTUALLY DO AND WHAT RISKS OR SHOULD THEY DO THAT? LET'S LOOK THEM.
BUT YOU, YOU'VE TALKED TO THEM AND I, I GUESS SO WHATEVER YOU WANNA DO, CHAIR, BUT YEAH.
YEAH, WE HAVE, AND I, I THINK IF I WERE TO SPEAK TO THEIR OPERATIONS, THEY WOULD PROBABLY JUST SHAKE THEIR HEADS AND WAIT TILL THEY STOOD UP TO TALK ABOUT IT.
BUT WE DID TALK ABOUT THE IMPACT THAT THEIR OPERATIONS WOULD HAVE IF WE HAD TO, IF RESIDENTIAL WERE ON THIS PROPERTY AND WE DID FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME SEPARATION WAS NEEDED.
UM, BUT THAT WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING, UH, WOULD BE APPROPRIATE WITHIN NEARBY RESIDENTIAL CONTEXT.
I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE'LL LET THE APPLICANT, UH, SPEAK TO THE COMMISSION CHAIR.
I SHOULD HAVE ANNOUNCED THE ACCOMPANYING, UH, PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN WITH THIS.
GO AHEAD AND DO THAT WHILE THEY'RE COMING UP.
UM, IF WE CAN HAVE CLAIRE HEMPEL, UH, JEREMY FRANKLIN AND FRANK ZANELLI.
UH, AGENDA ITEM TWO B THAT ACCOMPANIES THE SONY CASE IS A PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN.
E D S HEADQUARTERS BLOCK A LOT, ONE SEVEN HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE MID-RISE RESIDENTIAL UNITS, PROFESSIONAL, GENERAL ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE, MODERATE INTENSITY MANUFACTURING, AND A HOTEL ON ONE LOT ON 91.0 ACRES.
LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF LEGACY DRIVE AND PARKWOOD V BOULEVARD.
AGAIN, THIS IS ZONED COMMERCIAL EMPLOYMENT AND THE APPLICANT IS E D S LEGACY PARTNERS, L L C.
THIS IS, UH, FOR ADMINISTRATIVE CONSIDERATION.
MY NAME IS FRANK ZANELLI, AND, UH, I'M THE PRESIDENT OF NEXT POINT DEVELOPMENT COMPANY.
UH, MORE IMPORTANTLY THAN THAT, I'M A 42 YEAR RESIDENT OF PLANO AND, UH, WAS ACTUALLY LUCKY ENOUGH TO BE INVOLVED WHEN THE E D S WAS ACTUALLY BEING DEVELOPED.
I SPENT A LONG TIME WITH THE PEROT FAMILY, UM, WORKING ON THE ASSORTMENT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE DID, BUT I'VE BEEN IN PLANO
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FOR A LONG TIME AND, UH, VERY PROUD, UH, TO BE A RESIDENT HERE.BOTTOM LINE TO THIS FACILITY IS, IT'S BEEN SITTING VACANT FOR TOO LONG.
I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE ON THAT.
I PROBABLY DRIVE BY THREE TIMES A WEEK AS I'M GOING TO LEGACY EAST OR WEST, OR I LIVE IN WILLOW BEND.
AND, UM, I HAD THE GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO COME IN TO NEXT POINT, WHICH IS A 17 BILLION UNDER MANAGEMENT COMPANY, FINANCIAL ADVISOR THAT HAS A BIG REAL ESTATE PORTFOLIO.
I'VE KNOWN THE CHAIRMAN FOR A LONG TIME.
I WAS BASICALLY, I WOULDN'T SAY SEMI-RETIRED, BUT I WAS WORKING OUT OF MY HOME.
AND, UH, I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH THROUGH THE YEARS TO BE INVOLVED AT ALLIANCE AIRPORT, AMERICAN AIRLINES CENTER, A LOT OF DIFFERENT BIG DEVELOPMENTS.
AND SO HE CALLED ME AND HE SAID, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT PUTTING A LIFE SCIENCE CENTER? AND I HAD STUDIED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT LIFE SCIENCE, AND I SAID, DOES THE BUILDING WORK? YOU KNOW, IS THAT POSSIBLE TO BE ABLE TO CONVERT THIS EIGHTIES BUILDING? I WAS A YOUNG BUSINESSMAN WHEN ROSS PEROT WAS HOLDING COURT IN THE MID, UH, LATE EIGHTIES AS THEY WERE BUILDING THIS FACILITY AND DESIGNING IT.
AND I SAID, DOES THE BUILDING ACTUALLY WORK? WELL, WE'VE HIRED THE TOP ENGINEERING COMPANY IN THE COUNTRY FOR LIFE SCIENCE CRB, AND THEY'LL BE TALKING A LITTLE BIT TONIGHT, BUT THE LONG AND SHORT OF IT IS, IS THAT THIS IS A PROJECT THAT PROBABLY IS THE BIGGEST ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEAL I'VE EVER SEEN.
RAY PERRYMAN, WHO IS, UH, FOREMOST, YOU KNOW, AUTHORITY ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, SAYS IT'S THE BIGGEST HE'S EVER SEEN.
AND WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE JOBS AND THE TAX BASE AND ALL OF THE THINGS THAT COME ALONG WITH IT, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS BUILD A HUB HERE THAT WOULD BE A GATEWAY FROM THE EAST COAST TO THE WEST COAST.
BOSTON HAS 40 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF LIFE SCIENCE.
I THINK THAT IN NORTH TEXAS, WE SHOULD HAVE 10, 15 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF LIFE SCIENCE BECAUSE IT'S A HUGELY EMERGING BUSINESS.
IT, THEY'RE REALLY CURING ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT THINGS WITH THE RESEARCH AND ALL OF THE, YOU KNOW, EVENTS THAT ARE OCCURRING INSIDE THESE FACILITIES.
TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MICHAEL, UM, WE OWN ANOTHER 110 ACRES THAT IS NOT ON THE DOCKET TONIGHT THAT WE BOUGHT, THAT WE PLAN ON PUTTING THE RESEARCH HOSPITAL IN.
SO WE CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.
BUT THIS WILL ENCOMPASS FROM SOUP TO NUTS ALL THE WAY FROM THE INCUBATOR CAPABILITIES WHERE THEY'RE REALLY, THESE YOUNG SCIENTISTS ARE DOING ALL THE HARD WORK ALL THE WAY TO THE GRADUATION SPACE, THE R AND D SPACE.
AND THEN AS YOU GET INTO THE THERAPEUTIC PRODUCTION FACILITIES, UM, THAT'S REALLY THEREFORE, UM, YOU KNOW, THERAPEUTIC PRODUCTION, THE MAKING OF DRUGS.
AND WHEN WE LOOK AT IT, THERE'S A HUGE PUSH IN THE UNITED STATES TO KEEP THIS MANUFACTURING ONSHORE.
WE ARE GONNA HAVE ABOUT 2.4 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF IT IN THE TOTAL PROJECT ON THIS PARTICULAR SITE, THE 91, WE HAVE 800,000 SQUARE FEET.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S THE MAKING OF THE DRUGS.
IT'S ABOUT AS CLEAN AS A HOSPITAL.
UH, THERE'S GIGANTIC AIR HANDLERS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT GOES ON WITH THAT.
BUT THIS IS A BUSINESS IN PLANO THAT I THINK WE NEED TO BE IN AND DROPPING IT IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS ECO ZONE.
WE LOOK AT LEGACY AS BEING OUR PARTNER.
WE DON'T WANNA BE IN THE HOSPITALITY BUSINESS.
I'D LIKE TO NEVER BUILD ANOTHER APARTMENT, BUT WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO HOUSE THESE NUMBERS OF COMPANIES AND PEOPLE THAT COME IN.
WE'RE NOT DOING ANY MULTIFAMILY IF WE GET APPROVED UNTIL THE THIRD PHASE.
WE SPENT AT THAT POINT OVER 2 BILLION, AND WE HAVE A GIGANTIC UP AND RUNNING PROGRAM AT THAT POINT.
WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN HOUSE THE PEOPLE BECAUSE THIS IS A VERY COMMUNAL BUSINESS THAT WE'RE REALLY GETTING INVOLVED WITH.
UM, SO I'M GONNA BE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I WANNA TURN THIS OVER TO JEREMY, UH, FRANKLIN, WHO IS THE C R B REPRESENTATIVE, AND HE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT EVERYTHING.
IF WE WANNA SWITCH THIS, UH, WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A, UH, I GO RIGHT HERE.
I'M NOT VERY GOOD AT THIS RIGHT HERE.
THIS IS A LETTER THAT WE WROTE, THAT I SIGNED THAT BASICALLY I HOPE ADDRESSED SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAD BEEN HEARING.
WE, WE'VE ASKED THE PLANNING AND ZONING PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAVE BEEN THE MAIN CONCERNS.
AND SO THIS IS A LETTER WE'D LIKE TO PUT THIS INTO THE RECORD, AND I KNOW THESE GUYS HAVE, HAVE SEEN THAT, UM, ON EXACTLY, UM, WHAT WE THINK SOME OF THE CONCERNS ARE.
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WE ADDRESSED IT.AND BASICALLY WHAT IT SAYS IS THAT EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING AND HOW WE'RE DOING IT.
SO, UH, I THINK THE LETTER IS IMPORTANT.
AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN, YOU SEE THE FIVE MAIN BUILDINGS IN THE MIDDLE, THEY'RE IN WHITE, AND THE GOD POD SITS IN THE MIDDLE.
UH, THE SOUTHERN MOST PEACE AND JEREMY WILL COVER THIS, THE SOUTHERNMOST BUILDING AND, UM, THE MANUFACTURING, THE, THE THERAPEUTIC PRODUCTION FACILITY ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE ARE GONNA BE IN PHASE ONE.
WE'RE THEN GONNA BUILD PHASE TWO, WHICH WE'RE GONNA TAKE THE OTHER SIDE OF THE GOD POD AND BUILD OUT THAT BUILDING ALONG WITH ANOTHER THERAPEUTIC PRODUCTION FACILITY.
IT WILL NOT BE UNTIL PHASE THREE.
AND LIKE I SAID, ABOUT 2 BILLION HAS BEEN SPENT, UH, THAT WE THINK THERE'S A NEED FOR THESE APARTMENTS.
AGAIN, THIS IS NOT A VERY HIGH END USE FOR US, GIVEN WHAT WE'RE HAVING TO PAY FOR LAND RIGHT NOW, UH, TO PUT APARTMENTS ON.
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO BUILD APARTMENTS, BUT WE FEEL THAT WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO HOUSE THIS MASSIVE AMOUNT OF, UH, GROWTH THAT WE THINK IS GONNA COME BY VIRTUE OF THIS FACILITY.
THAT'S WHY WE PUT IT IN PHASE THREE.
AND SO THAT'S KIND OF OUR, OUR SITE PLAN.
I'LL GO BACK, THIS IS A GREAT SHOT.
IF YOU GUYS GO OUT TO THE FACILITY NOW, EVERYONE KNOWS YOU KIND OF DRIVE UNDERNEATH AND YOU GO FROM THE WEST SIDE TO THE EAST SIDE.
WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS ENCASE THAT WHOLE AREA AND MAKE THAT THE HUGE MARKET HALL.
AGAIN, I, I CAN'T OVEREMPHASIZE THAT.
THIS IS SUCH A COMMUNAL BUSINESS.
THE LIFE SCIENCE BUSINESS, EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE CONGREGATED TOGETHER.
THAT'S HOW ALL THESE GREAT THERAPIES AND ALL THESE GREAT THINGS OCCUR.
SO WE'RE CLOSING THAT OFF AND WE'RE DOING IT SOMEWHAT ALSO FOR SECURITY REASONS.
AND THAT WILL BE THE GREAT HALL.
AND OUTSIDE IN THE WEST SIDE, WE'RE BUILDING THE PARK THAT CLAIRE IS GONNA TALK, UH, TO YOU GUYS ABOUT WITH ALL OF THE OUTDOOR FUNCTIONS OF THIS KIND OF FACING PARKWOOD.
IT'S GONNA BE A BEAUTIFUL PARK, IT'S GONNA BE FANTASTIC FOR THE WORKFORCE, AND IT REALLY IS GONNA CREATE, UH, A GREAT DYNAMIC ON THE BACKSIDE IS GONNA BE REALLY WHERE THE THERAPEUTIC PRODUCTION OCCURS.
AND IT'S GONNA HAVE MUCH MORE SECURITY IN TERMS OF ACCESS IN AND OUT.
THIS IS GONNA BECOME VERY PUBLIC.
HERE'S ANOTHER KIND OF SHOT STRAIGHT AT, IF YOU'RE GOING STRAIGHT RIGHT NOW, YOU JUST GO RIGHT THROUGH THAT GLASS AND YOU GO OVER ON THE OTHER SIDE.
BUT WE'RE GONNA ENCASE THAT AS PART OF THE, UH, AS PART OF THE, UH, REDEVELOPMENT.
AND THEN HERE'S A BIT OF A INTERACTIVE, WHICH WILL KIND OF GIVE YOU A FEEL FOR THAT GRAND HALL, UH, WHICH IS REALLY GONNA BE A, BE A CENTERPIECE REALLY FOR, UH, THIS DEVELOPMENT.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE EMPLOYMENT NUMBERS HERE ARE, ARE ENORMOUS.
UH, FIRST PHASE IS 7,800, AND BY THE TIME YOU GET DONE WITH THE FOURTH PHASE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE OVER 30,000, UH, NEW JOBS.
AND SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE PLANNING FOR ALL THAT.
THIS PARK IS GONNA BE A WONDERFUL ADDITION TO THE AMENITY PACKAGE AND IT'S GONNA BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORK HERE IN ORDER TO GO TO THE PARK.
AND CLAIRE WILL TALK, UM, A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT.
SO I'LL BE BACK IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS.
WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
OBVIOUSLY AS A PLANO RESIDENT, I'M BEYOND EXCITED ABOUT.
I DON'T WANT TO PICK UP THE PAPER ANYMORE, READ ABOUT WHAT FRISCO'S DOING, SO I'M GONNA BE VERY, VERY HAPPY IF WE CAN FIGURE THIS OUT AND, AND, AND GET THIS PROJECT MOVING.
SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, LET ME BRING JEREMY UP.
IT'S GREAT TO BE, GREAT TO BE HERE AND SEE HOW MUCH TIME THEY HAVE.
JEREMY FRANKLIN, WE HAVE FIVE MINUTES AND 30 SECONDS.
UH, JEREMY FRANKLIN ARCHITECT WITH CRB GROUP.
SO I WANTED TO GO THROUGH THE PHASING, WHICH FRANK HIT ON SOME ALREADY, SO I'LL GO PRETTY QUICKLY.
BUT PHASE ONE IS RENOVATION OF THE SOUTHERN TWO MAIN BUILDINGS.
WE CALL THEM H ONE AND H TWO, ALONG WITH MODIFICATIONS OF THE SOUTH PARKING GARAGE.
WE'RE DEMOLISHING A PORTION OF IT TO THE EAST SO THAT WE HAVE SPACE FOR THE SOUTHEAST THERAPEUTIC MANUFACTURING BUILDING.
SO WE'RE FOCUSING ON GETTING THE SCIENCE SPACES MOVING AND ACTIVATED FIRST IN ORDER TO BRING PEOPLE BACK TO THE CAMPUS AND, UH, GET A LOT OF ACTIVITY STARTED ALONG WITH THE PARK SPACE BEING CRITICAL TO THIS FIRST PHASE AS WELL.
AND WITH PHASE TWO, WE'RE EXTENDING THOSE SCIENCE NEEDS UP TO THE NORTHEAST.
SO RENOVATING THE H THREE, WHICH IS THE NORTH OF THE THREE ORIGINAL BUILDINGS, ALONG WITH THE NORTHEAST
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MANUFACTURING BUILDING AND A NEW PARKING DECK ON THE NORTH SIDE.AND THE THIRD PHASE IS BUILDING OUT THAT MID-RISE RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS ALONG WITH THE HOTEL.
SO WE'RE INTENDING THESE RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS TO BE, UH, HIGH-END MID-RISE.
THE PLAN IS FOR THEM TO BE FIVE RESIDENTIAL FLOORS, OVER TWO LEVELS OF PARKING AND THE HOTEL.
BOTH OF THESE FUNCTIONS ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO MAKING THIS CAMPUS SUCCEED.
THE HOTEL IS GONNA BE GREAT FOR CONFERENCES WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING TO THIS CAMPUS, AND A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS WILL BE EMPLOYEES ON THE CAMPUS.
SCIENTISTS WORK IN DIFFERENT HOURS THAN A LOT OF US DO.
24 HOURS A DAY, THEY HAVE RESEARCH PROJECTS GOING ON, THEY CAN RUN BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THEIR APARTMENT AND THEIR LAB.
SO HAVING THIS FULL ECOSYSTEM REALLY ALLOWS US TO WORK AS LIKE A LIVE WORK PLAY CAMPUS.
SO HAVING ALL THESE PROGRAMS TOGETHER IS REALLY WHAT MAKES IT SUCCESSFUL FOR THE LONG TERM.
CAN HAND OFF TO CLAIRE IF YOU WANT TO RUN EVENING COMMISSIONERS.
MY NAME IS CLAIRE HEMPEL WITH DESIGN WORKSHOP.
UH, WE'RE THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS ON THE PROJECT, SO I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE OPEN SPACE.
UM, IN PARTICULAR THE OPEN SPACE THAT'S LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
SO IF YOU FOCUS BETWEEN WHERE THE MULTI-FAMILIES ARE ON PARKWOOD, BETWEEN AND BETWEEN THE, UM, THE T R Q BUILDING, THAT'S WHERE OUR FOCUS HAS BEEN.
AND THE KEY TO THIS HAS BEEN WORKING WITH PARKS DEPARTMENT STAFF, UM, AND MAKING SURE THAT THIS PARK SPACE IS GOING TO FEEL IT'S OPEN FOR THE PUBLIC, UM, THAT IT CONNECTS TO THE TRAILS AND SIDEWALKS THAT GO OFFSITE INTO LEGACY TOWN CENTER TO THE SOUTH AND TO THE WEST.
UM, SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THIS OPEN SPACE FEEL LIKE, IT FEELS LIKE IT'S FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THAT IT FEELS WELCOMING.
AND SO THAT INCLUDES THE BEAUTIFUL OPEN LAWNS, UM, THAT YOU CAN SEE HERE.
LOTS OF WALKING TRAILS, VARYING WIDTHS FROM ANYWHERE FROM SEVEN FOOT TO 10 FOOT, UH, AND LOTS OF SHADE TREES.
UM, WE'RE EVEN MOVING SOME OF THE TREES THAT ARE THERE ON SITE, UM, TO ACCOMMODATE, UM, UH, SOME OF THE NEW SPACES AND IT'LL FEEL LIKE THERE'S LOTS OF INSTANT SHADE ON DAY ONE.
YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF BEAUTIFUL LAWN SPACE THAT WOULD BE USED FOR PICKUP GAMES OF FLAG FOOTBALL, UH, SOCCER, UM, WHATEVER ACTIVITIES OR UH, UH, EVENTS MAY HAPPEN BOTH AFFILIATED WITH THE BUILDING OR OTHERWISE.
AND THE PATHWAYS ARE REALLY CONNECTING ALL OF THESE SPACES THROUGHOUT.
AND SO THAT'S A, A REALLY IMPORTANT ADJECTIVE FOR THE, THE OPEN SPACE HERE IS CONNECTIVITY.
UM, AND THE, THE SPACE THAT FRANK SHOWED EARLIER, THE VERY BEAUTIFUL HARDSCAPE PLAZA WILL HAVE TWO WATER, UH, INTERACTIVE WATER FEATURES.
ONE OF THE ONES THAT YOU CAN PLAY IN, WHICH YOU CAN IMAGINE THIS TIME OF YEAR IS VERY ATTRACTIVE TO GO TO.
UM, THE OTHER ONE IS A, A REALLY BEAUTIFUL STATEMENT PIECE AS YOU'RE COMING INTO, UM, AND KIND OF WAYFINDING TO GET TO THE FRONT DOOR OF THE BUILDING.
UM, SO WITH THAT, I WILL HAND IT BACK OVER TO FRANK.
SO JUST IN CLOSING AGAIN, UM, WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT ANYONE MIGHT HAVE.
WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROGRAM.
I'M PERSONALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT BECAUSE I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT FOR SO LONG HERE AND I JUST THINK THIS IS GONNA BE GREAT FOR PLANO.
I THINK IT'S GONNA BE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS GONNA BE DIRECTLY INVOLVED.
THEY WANNA BUILD A BIG CENTER HERE, UH, OF EXCELLENCE FOR THEIR BIOLOGY AND CHEMISTRY AND ALL THE OTHER PIECES.
COLIN COLLEGE IS DIRECTLY INVOLVED, UH, WITH US AND IS TALKING.
WE'RE TALKING WITH THEM PRETTY MUCH ON A REGULAR BASIS.
AND I CAN JUST CLOSE WITH THIS, THAT THE USER COMMUNITY THAT'S OUT THERE REALLY SEES THIS AS A GATEWAY BETWEEN BOSTON AND SAN DIEGO.
WE HAVE A GREAT CHANCE HERE, YOU KNOW, IN NORTH TEXAS.
SO, UM, WE'LL BE ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE AT THE END.
UM, BEFORE WE GET THE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT, DO WE HAVE OTHER SPEAKERS ON THIS? NO, WE DO NOT.
WELL, IN THAT CASE THEN, UH, I SEE COMMISSIONER RATLIFF, YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT? YES.
LOOKS LIKE Y'ALL PUT A LOT OF EFFORT INTO IT, SO I APPRECIATE THE, THE DEPTH OF THE INFORMATION YOU PROVIDED.
YOU'VE HEARD THE STAFF REPORT.
UM, THERE'S TWO, UH, OBVIOUSLY SINCE ON ALL THE PD LANGUAGE, I PRESUME THAT Y'ALL ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH ALL OF THE PD LANGUAGE THAT'S IN THE YES.
AND THEN THE TWO ADDITIONAL THINGS WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT, UM, THE 40 FOOT VERSUS 30 FOOT SETBACK, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THAT IS ACCEPTABLE TO Y'ALL AT THIS POINT? GOOD EVENING.
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HORN.UM, THE ONLY CHALLENGE WE SEE WITH THAT IS THE, UH, WITHOUT AFFECTING THE DESIGN OF THE PARK, WE HAVE 20 FEET BETWEEN OUR BUILDING AND OUR LIMITS OF SIDEWALK ALONG THE QUASI PUBLIC STREET.
WE WOULD REQUEST TO KEEP THAT SPACE TO ALLOW FLEXIBILITY FOR ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING AND DRY UTILITIES.
I KNOW IT IS A VERY SPECIFIC REQUEST, BUT ON OTHER MID-RISE, OTHER MID-RISE RESIDENTIAL, UM, DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE HAVE DONE, OFTENTIMES WE FIND THAT IT'S HARD TO FIT IN GAS AND UNDERGROUND ELECTRIC AND TELECOM.
AND SO WE WOULD LIKE TO RESERVE THAT SPACE FOR, UM, THE DESIGN OF THE SET SET THINGS.
AND ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT, THE R UH, REASON WHY THERE IS A 30 TO 40 FOOT, UM, DIFFERENCE IS THAT THERE IS A, UH, THE PROPERTY LINE BASICALLY DOES LIKE AN L-SHAPE AND SO MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY WE'RE REALLY SITTING AT 40 FEET.
BUT WHERE WE HAVE THAT TIGHTER SPACE WHERE THE PROPERTY LINE, UM, GOES TO THE EAST A LITTLE BIT BY 10 FEET, THAT'S WHERE WE HIT THAT 30 FEET.
I'M FOLLOW, I HAVE TO LOOK AT THEIR SITE PLAN, BUT THAT, THAT'S, APPRECIATE THE EXPLANATION.
THE SECOND PART THAT THE STAFF RECOMMENDED AND ALL YOUR SITE PLANS AND ALL YOUR, THE PARK PLANNING AND EVERYTHING ELSE, Y'ALL ARE SHOWING ALL THE SAME GREEN SPACE THAT THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING BE ALSO DEDICATED AS PARKLAND.
IS THERE A REASON THAT Y'ALL WANT TO KEEP IT PRIVATE OR THAT YOU HAVE FUTURE PLANS FOR IT? OR WHAT IS YOUR REACTION TO THAT? UM, IS THAT THE, IS THAT THE YELLOW, UH, PIECE THAT WE HAD? RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THAT FROM OUR STANDPOINT, WE'RE BUILDING A, A PRETTY BIG PARK AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN OVER THE NEXT SEVEN YEARS.
UH, THIS IS A SEVEN YEAR PROGRAM.
IT'S GONNA BE DONE IN FOUR PHASES AND EACH PHASE IS GONNA BE ABOUT A BILLION DOLLARS OF, OF SPEND.
AND I JUST THINK FROM A LOT OF YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, IT'S WISE FOR US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP THAT ALIVE FOR A DAYCARE CENTER OR OTHER THINGS THAT COULD POP UP THAT ARE IMPORTANT THAT ULTIMATELY, UM, WE MAY NEED.
AND SO OUR POSITION IS, IS THAT WE THINK THE PARK IS ADEQUATE RIGHT NOW, AND IF WE LEAVE THAT IN KIND OF A GRAY ZONE TO BE DEALT WITH LATER, I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY OKAY WITH THAT.
BUT DESIGNATING IT TONIGHT IS OPEN SPACE.
I, I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE THE SMARTEST THING THAT WE COULD ALL DO.
I THINK THERE MAY BE A USE FOR THAT, THAT OF COURSE THE CITY WOULD APPROVE OR, OR NOT APPROVE, BUT, UH, WE THINK THE PARK IS REALLY ADEQUATE FROM AN OPEN SPACE.
THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF OPEN SPACE THERE.
SO THAT, THAT'S JUST OUR POSITION.
I JUST WANNA GET YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON IT.
WE'LL, JUST FOLLOWING UP ON THAT LAST QUESTION, UM, WHAT WOULD YOU DO WITH THOSE ADDITIONAL TWO ACRES IN THE INTERIM BEFORE YOU, UM, REALIZE THERE'S A NEED FOR A DAYCARE CENTER OR WHATEVER? WELL, I, I THINK IT REALLY IS BUILT IN REALLY FOR FLEXIBILITY.
I THINK THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT IT, THE PARK CLAIRE IS HOW BIG NINE AND A HALF ACRES, NINE AND A HALF, NINE AND NINE AND NINE AND A HALF ACRES.
WE THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD SIZE PARK.
AND WE THINK THERE'S GONNA BE AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACES AS YOU GO TO PARKWOOD, YOU KNOW, THIS IS REALLY GONNA LOOK GREAT WHEN YOU'RE COMING DOWN.
YOU'RE GONNA SEE THESE WATER FEATURES, YOU'RE GONNA SEE THIS GIGANTIC PARK, YOU'RE GONNA SEE THIS PLAYGROUND FOR KIDS.
YOU KNOW, IT'S OPEN COMPLETELY TO THE PUBLIC.
I THINK OUR POSITION, SIR, HAS BEEN THAT WE THINK NINE AND A HALF ACRES AT THIS POINT IS A, IS A PRETTY GOOD, UM, AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE FOR RIGHT NOW.
WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT MY QUESTION IS IN THE INTERIM, WHAT HA WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN ON THOSE TWO ACRES? ARE THEY JUST GONNA BE A MOUND OF BARE DIRT? ARE YOU GONNA PLANT A LAWN THERE? NOT NOTHING UNTIL WE DECIDE WE'LL JUST PUT SOME GRASS THERE UNTIL WE DECIDE, COME BACK TO THE CITY, TAKE A LOOK AFTER PHASE ONE OF, OF WHERE WE MIGHT BE THERE.
YOU COULD COME BACK TO THE CITY WHEN YOU DECIDE WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH IT.
WELL, WE'D HAVE TO COME BACK, GET APPROVAL YEAH.
AND IT COULD BE OPEN SPACE IN THE INTERIM, IT COULD BE OPEN, IT COULD END UP OPEN SPACE.
COMMISSIONER LEY, I GUESS A QUESTION TO THE CITY, CAN WE PUT IN A STIPULATION IN EITHER THE PD LANGUAGE TO, I DUNNO, FORCE IS A STRONG WORD, BUT TO FORCE THAT THOSE TWO ACRES, UM, BE NOT USED FOR SOMETHING LIKE ADDITIONAL THERAPEUTIC PRODUCTION BUILDING.
SO MAKING STUFF UP DESIGN-WISE, I KNOW IT, IT PROBABLY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO PUT IT THAT CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL, BUT COULD WE FORCE, UM, A STIPULATION THAT THE, UH, THOSE TWO ACRES COULD NOT BE USED FOR AN EXTENSION OF THE RESIDENTIAL,
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FOR INSTANCE? SO THERE ARE SOME, UM, RESTRICTIONS IN THE LANGUAGE.RIGHT NOW, RESIDENTIAL HAS TO BE WITHIN 250 FEET OF PARKWOOD.
SO I BELIEVE THAT DOES NOT BLEED INTO THAT AREA CURRENTLY.
UM, THE THERAPEUTIC PRODUCTION, THE, AGAIN, THE MANUFACTURING IS RESTRICTED, IT HAS TO BE 700 FEET AWAY FROM PARKWOOD, SO IT DOES LIMIT THE USE CURRENTLY IN THAT AREA.
IT WOULD BE ANOTHER, ANOTHER USE, ANOTHER COMMERCIAL USE THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD USE, WHICH WOULD BE ALLOWED IN THE DISTRICT, BUT IT COULD NOT BE MANUFACTURING AND IT CANNOT BE HOUSING AND, AND, AND, AND AGAIN, UH, WE WOULD BE FINE JUST LEAVING IT AT THIS POINT THAT WE CAN'T REALLY DO ANYTHING WITH IT.
WE'LL MAKE SURE IT LOOKS GOOD, WE'LL MAKE SURE THERE'S GRASS ON IT, UM, AND THEN COME BACK TO THE CITY IF WE THINK THAT WE NEED IT FOR SOME OTHER KIND OF USE.
AGAIN, WE THINK THE NINE AND A HALF ACRES, OUR ONLY POSITION IS WE THINK THE NINE AND A HALF ACRES IS AS SUFFICIENT AS AS, AS IT NEEDS TO BE IN TERMS OF THE OPEN SPACE WITH THE PARK.
THIS PARK IS GONNA BE A GREAT PARK.
I MEAN, WE ARE GONNA NOT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GONNA SPARE ANY EXPENSE.
THIS IS GONNA BE A REALLY COOL PART.
SO TOTALLY UNDERSTAND AND THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
THE PRESENTATION MAKES IT, IT LOOK, IT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL.
UM, ANYONE WHO HAS WATCHED ME AT BIAS HEAVILY TOWARDS MORE OPEN SPACE THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
UM, A QUESTION ON THE THERAPEUTIC PRODUCTION FACILITY.
UM, I'M TRYING TO TIE TO WHAT CHAIRMAN DOWNS TALKED ABOUT, THE MODERATE INTENSITY VERSUS WHAT I THINK OF AS, UH, THERAPEUTIC PRODUCTION.
I HAVE A BACHELOR'S IN APPLIED CHEMISTRY AND I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THAT REACHES WHAT, WHAT, WHAT'S BEEN PRODUCED THERE, WHICH WOULD PHARMACEUTICAL DRUGS AND, UH, THERAPIES FOR CELL AND GENE THERAPY THAT ARE DEVELOPED INSIDE THE, UH, EXISTING FACILITY IN THE INCUBATORS, IN THE LABS.
UM, EVERY UM, LIFE SCIENCE PROGRAM HAS A FORM OF THERAPEUTIC PRODUCTION AND WE THINK THAT WE COULD REALLY MAKE A HUGE CASE THAT A LOT OF IT SHOULD COME HERE TO TEXAS BECAUSE OF THE LABOR AND THE TAXES AND SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS.
AND WE WANNA BE ABLE TO BRING, UM, THAT OFF FROM OFFSHORE.
WE WANNA BE ABLE TO BUILD THAT IN THE UNITED STATES.
AND BECAUSE OF THE SIZE AND THE SCOPE OF NOT ONLY THE 91 ACRES, BUT THE OTHER 110 ACRES, WE'VE GOT THE ABILITY TO BUILD ABOUT 2.5 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF THIS THERAPEUTIC PRODUCTION.
AND WE THINK THE MARKET IS RAGING TO BE ABLE TO BUILD THAT IN THE CENTER OF THE COUNTRY.
AND SO THAT WAS PART AND PARCEL TO A LOT OF OUR PLANS.
YOU KNOW, REALLY IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE VERY CLEAN.
UH, IT'S GOT ALL THE AIR HANDLING, IT'S GOT 40 FOOT CLEARS INSIDE THE BUILDING AND IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE, IT'S GONNA BE THE, THE EQUIVALENT OF UH, A REAL CLEAN SPACE.
NOT NO, NO RAW MANUFACTURING AS WE THINK OF MANUFACTURING.
SO IT'S THE, PROBABLY THE FINE PARTICULATE MATTER PRODUCED OR THE AFFLUENT WASTE THAT TRIGGERS THE MODERATE INTENSITY CLASSIFICATION.
THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, COMMISSIONER KERRY? YEAH, I'VE GOT A FEW QUESTIONS, SEVERAL, UH, FOR COMMENT.
FIRST I FIND THIS FASCINATING.
I'VE BEEN SITTING HERE FOR A COUPLE YEARS AND THIS IS ONE OF THE MORE INTERESTING PROJECTS I'VE SEEN WHILE I'VE BEEN SITTING IN HERE.
UH, LET'S GO TO THE PARKS JUST TO KIND OF, UM, LEVEL SET NINE AND A HALF ACRES.
UM, ERIC, WHAT IS THE WINDHAVEN PARK WE PUT AT WINDHAVEN AND SPRING CREEK? DO WE KNOW? I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT NINE AND A HALF ACRE PARK IS COMPARED TO SOME THINGS I KNOW.
IT'S, IT'S A GOOD PLANO TRIVIA QUESTION.
GIMME A MINUTE AND I'LL ANSWER IT FOR YOU.
I, I HAVE A GOOD COMPARABLE, AND I THINK MOST PEOPLE MIGHT KNOW IN THIS ROOM, CLYDE WARREN PARK IS ABOUT, UM, WITH ALL OF THE PHASES TOGETHER, ROUGHLY SEVEN OR SO ACRES.
SO, UM, THIS WILL BE A LITTLE BIT BIGGER THAN THAT.
UM, ARE THERE ANY TENANTS IN THIS BUILDING CURRENTLY? HP WAS THEN THERE A WHILE BACK.
ARE THEY STILL THERE? YEAH, NO, THE BUILDING HAS BEEN, BEEN VACANT COMPLETELY FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S ON THE TAX ROLLS NOW AT VERY LOW NUMBERS.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE POSITION THAT I'VE TAKEN, I PROBABLY WOULD NOT HAVE COME ON WITH NEXT POINT TO LEAD THIS IF IT WAS IN ANY OTHER CITY.
BUT BECAUSE OF THIS FACILITY AND BECAUSE IT'S IN MY HOMETOWN, I JUST THINK WE HAVE AN INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT PLANO IN THE LIFE SCIENCE WORLD, IN THE WORLD ON THE MAP.
THIS IS PROBABLY THE MOST ROBUST,
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UH, BUILDING PLAN OF ANYTHING THAT I'VE SEEN DROPPED IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS GIGANTIC ECO ZONE.SEE, THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF THIS.
THIS ISN'T SOME GREENFIELD DEVELOPMENT.
THESE BUILDINGS EXIST, THIS ECO ZONE EXISTS.
AND SO DROPPING IT IN, WE JUST THINK THAT THE, THE OPPORTUNITIES ARE PRETTY MUCH ENDLESS AND, YOU KNOW, NEXT POINT HAS THE FINANCIAL CAPABILITY TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS.
GOTTA HAVE A LOT OF MONEY TO DO THIS.
UM, MY, MY NEXT QUESTION IS ON PHASING.
CAN YOU GIVE US A GENERAL IDEA OF 1, 2, 3 AND HOW FAR OFF WE ARE UNTIL THOSE APARTMENTS MAY BE BUILT? WHAT'S THAT LOOK LIKE? YEAH, I CAN JUST AT A HIGH, AT A QUICK LEVEL.
YEAH, I, I CAN GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF THAT THEN.
JEREMY, YOU ADD IN, UM, EACH PHASE IS GONNA TAKE ABOUT 18 MONTHS ONCE WE BREAK GROUND, THAT'S ROUGH NUMBERS.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT ALL THE NUMBERS SET NOW ON PHASE ONE THAT'S GONNA BE 1.1 BILLION AND IT'S GONNA ENCOMPASS THE THERAPEUTIC PRODUCTION FACILITY, THE GOD POD, AND THEN WHAT WE CALL H ONE THE BUILDING.
IF YOU WERE ON THE EAST SIDE AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE GOD POD, IT'S ON THE LEFT SIDE.
PHASE TWO IS THE SECOND THERAPEUTIC PRODUCTION.
18 MONTHS LATER WITH H THREE, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE GOD POD FROM THE EAST SIDE, THE BUILDING ON THE RIGHT.
SO THAT'S GONNA BE THE SECOND PHASE.
SO BEFORE ANY APARTMENTS ARE EVEN CONTEMPLATED, WE'RE GONNA BE TWO AND A HALF YEARS, THREE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD BEFORE YOU EVEN START THINKING ABOUT IT.
AND, AND AGAIN, I, I REALLY WANNA MAKE THIS POINT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THE APARTMENTS, EVERY TIME PEOPLE HEAR ABOUT APARTMENTS, I WISH WE DIDN'T HAVE TO BUILD ANY OF THEM.
I MEAN, THIS LAND IS, IS VERY VALUABLE AND WHAT WE'RE HAVING TO PAY FOR THIS ADDITIONAL ACREAGE.
THE REASON THAT I'M SO SHOCKED ABOUT IT, WHEN WE RAN THE PRO GROUP AND WE HAD, WE, WE OWNED ALL THIS LAND, AS EVERYONE KNOWS, ROSS OWNED IT ALL SHOULD HAVE KEPT IT.
BUT THE FACT THAT THE MATTER IS, IS THAT APARTMENTS IS NOT THE REASON THAT WE'RE DOING ANYTHING.
WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN MAINTAIN A LEVEL THAT WE CAN HOUSE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA BE COMING HERE FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
AND SO WE THINK PHASE THREE IS ABOUT THE RIGHT TIME.
AND ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS ABOUT WEST PLANO, YOU KNOW, THE APARTMENT OCCUPANCY IS OVER 90%.
SO WE GOTTA BE CAREFUL ABOUT JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN, I DON'T WANT PEOPLE LIVING IN FRISCO LOVE FRISCO.
I DON'T WANT 'EM LIVING THERE.
I DON'T WANT 'EM LIVING IN CARROLLTON, YOU KNOW, I WANT HIM LIVING IN PLANO BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY ALL PART OF THIS MASTER PLAN.
SO SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT APARTMENTS, UM, AND LOOKING AT YOUR APARTMENT SIZES, THEY SEEM A BIT ON THE SMALL SIDE TO ME.
SO I DID A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH AND, AND FROM SOME DEBT I GOT NATIONALLY, ONE BEDROOM.
APARTMENTS ARE TYPICALLY 790 FEET ON THE AVERAGE TWO OR 1138.
YOURS ARE SIGNIFICANTLY SMALLER.
JUST QUICKLY, WHY SO MUCH SMALLER FOR YOUR APARTMENTS? IT SEEMS SIGNIFICANT.
IT SEEMS SIGNIFICANTLY SMALLER TO ME.
WE'VE TRIED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE TYPE OF PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA COME HERE AND WE'RE GONNA WORK HERE.
SO THE YOUNG PROFESSIONALS, UM, TRYING TO KEEP THE COST OF, UH, YOU KNOW, THEIR LEASE PAYMENTS DOWN.
UH, BUT AGAIN, I THINK THAT WE WOULD BE FOOLISH TO THINK WE HAVE EVERY ANSWER ON THAT UNTIL WE GET TWO OR THREE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.
SO WHAT WE'VE PLANNED TODAY, WE MAY HAVE TO COME BACK AND SAY, WE NEED SOME BIGGER UNITS.
OR WE NEED THIS OR WE NEED THAT.
BUT GIVEN THE, THE, THE DYNAMICS OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ACTUALLY WORKING, THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE PEOPLE WORKING, THEY'RE YOUNG COLLEGE GRADUATE TYPE OF PEOPLE THAT ARE REALLY JUST LOOKING TO GET THEIR FEET WET NOW IN THIS, IN THIS INDUSTRY.
UM, I, I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT WASTEWATER EARLIER, AND IT WAS DEFERRED TO YOU GUYS.
JUST AGAIN, QUICKLY, CAN YOU GIVE US JUST A LITTLE INSIGHT INTO THAT ISSUE AND, AND WHERE WE MIGHT BE WITH THAT? YES, ABSOLUTELY.
WE HAVE DONE, UH, ANALYSIS FOR THE FULL BUILD OUT OF THE SITE AND HAVE PROVIDED THOSE NUMBERS TO THE CITY'S ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
AND THEY'RE ACTIVELY, UM, LOOKING AT THAT.
SO THEY'VE SENT IT TO THEIR CONSULTANTS TO RUN THE MODELS.
WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED FEEDBACK YET, BUT WHEN I CHECKED IN WITH ENGINEERING ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO, THEY SAID THAT THEY'RE STILL LOOKING AT THE MODELS FOR OFFSITE INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO WE WILL WORK WITH THEM TO ACCOMMODATE WHATEVER NEEDS TO BE DONE, BUT THOSE NUMBERS HAVE TO PROVIDE.
YEAH, IT'S THE REASON FOR THE QUESTIONS, AGAIN, ON THIS COMMISSION, WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF THINGS AROUND WASTEWATER, SO IT'S MM-HMM.
AND SO I, I JUST HAVE A FEW MORE QUESTIONS.
UM, IN TERMS OF MANUFACTURING IMPACT, SO YOU'RE GOING TO BE MAKING PHARMACEUTICALS.
DOES THAT MEAN THAT YOU WILL HAVE VIRUSES AND THINGS THAT, I MEAN, SO RECENTLY, I, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY'S EVER HEARD OF THIS, BUT THERE'S BIO LABS.
SO ANYWAY, EVERYBODY'S HEARD ABOUT BIO LABS AND SO HOW SIGNIFICANT
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ARE, IS THERE ANY DANGER TO THE THINGS YOU'LL BE TESTING THERE IN THE DRUGS AND THE THING, THE GENE THERAPIES THAT YOU'LL BE DOING? WHAT, IF ANY RISK MIGHT THAT POSE TO OUR AREA FROM THOSE THINGS COMING HERE? WELL, IT, IT'S NOT GONNA BE A WUHAN LAB, SO NO, THERE'S ONLY ONE OF THOSE SO FAR.THERE'S ONLY ONE OF THOSE, UH, THE WORK THAT'S DONE IN THE INCUBATOR IS REALLY A BUNCH OF CELL AND GENE THERAPY LABORATORY TESTING AND PLAYING WITH DIFFERENT MODELS AND EVERYTHING.
THIS ISN'T A VIRAL THING AT ALL.
AND WITH THE MANUFACTURING, IT IS AS SIMPLE, LITERALLY AS A GIGANTIC WHITE ROOM WITH ALL KINDS OF EQUIPMENT AND AIR HANDLERS AND EVERYTHING, BUILDING PHARMACEUTICALS, MAKING PHARMACEUTICALS, OR THE OTHER THERAPIES ON THE CELL AND GENE SIDE.
WE'RE SPENDING ABOUT 80% OF THIS FACILITY CONCENTRATING ON CELL AND GENE THERAPY, WHICH IS THE REAL MCCOY WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO CANCERS AND A LOT OF OTHER THINGS.
SO WE'RE NOT THE, THE, THERE'LL BE NO EMBEDDED VIRUSES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
WE DON'T SEE THAT THERE'S ANY RISK AT ALL.
AND CERTAINLY ON THE MANUFACTURING SIDE, IT'S LITERALLY AS CLEAN AS A, AS A HOSPITAL.
SO, YOU KNOW, UM, AS, AS I LOOK AT YOUR PROJECT, AGAIN, I, I THINK IT'S INTERESTING, IT'S EXCITING FOR PLANO.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE ONLY DRAWBACK I HAVE HERE IS THE SAME ONE YOU HAVE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE BUILDING OF APARTMENTS.
AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR, OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES, I MEAN, ONE OF OUR KEY GUIDING PRINCIPLES IS THAT WE'RE GONNA, UH, YOU KNOW, CHANGE THAT COMPLIMENTS THE CARY SUBURBAN CHARACTER IN OUR HISTORY.
AND THERE, THERE IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GO BUY OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
WE'RE TRYING TO, UM, KEEP OUR SUBURBAN CHARACTER.
SO WITH THAT SAID, AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR NEED FOR APARTMENTS, AND I, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, AND IT'S LOGICAL TO ME.
DO YOU NEED 775? ARE YOU, ARE YOU OPEN TO DOING SOMETHING LESS THAN THAT? BECAUSE THAT SEEMS LIKE A LOT, AND I UNDERSTAND THE NEED HERE.
AND BY THE WAY, A LOT OF TIMES I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT NEED, BUT IN THIS INSTANCE I DO.
UM, ARE YOU, DO YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT MANY APARTMENTS? WELL, LET ME, LET ME GIVE YOU THE, THE EMPLOYMENT NUMBERS THAT ARE IN RAY PERRY'S REPORT.
THAT IS, EVERYONE HAS ACCESS TO, HE, HE IS LITERALLY THE MICHAEL JORDAN OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT REPORTS.
I MEAN, HE DOES EVERYTHING FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS, BUT HE ALSO DOES A LOT OF WORK UP IN WASHINGTON.
AND HE IS THE FOREMOST AUTHORITY.
IF WE LOOKED AT HIS NUMBERS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW AT FULL BUILD OUT, THERE'S GONNA BE 32,000 JOBS.
WE NEED THREE TIMES THOSE APARTMENTS.
I MEAN, IF YOU REALLY LOOKED AT IT FROM A SCIENTIFIC STANDPOINT, WHAT WE'RE HOPING IS, IS THAT THERE'LL BE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY ROOM TO DO ANYMORE, BUT TO DO LESS.
THAT WOULD REALLY HAMPER US FROM THE STANDPOINT THAT WE THINK OUR MODEL SHOWS.
WE, WE NEED, WE NEED WAY MORE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO HOUSE THESE PEOPLE.
AND I'M ASSUMING THAT SOME OF THE HIGHER END PEOPLE ARE GONNA BUY HOUSES IN PLANO, AND THEY'RE GONNA LIVE HERE AND WORK HERE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, OUR MODEL TELLS US THAT, THAT THAT'S JUST A NUMBER THAT WE THOUGHT MADE SENSE WHERE WE DIDN'T BUILD THESE GIGANTIC BUILDINGS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
AND AGAIN, I I WILL TELL YOU, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, MR. GRA, MR. UH, KERRY, IF WE DIDN'T HAVE TO BUILD THESE APARTMENTS, I'D BE THE HAPPIEST GUY IN THE WORLD.
SO, AND ALL THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME.
UH, WITH THAT SAID, THIS IS MY FINAL QUESTION.
DID YOU GIVE CONSIDERATION TO, RATHER THAN BUILDING APARTMENTS, SINCE THESE ARE YOUNG PROFESSIONALS AND THEY'RE GETTING STARTED, GIVING THEM A CHANCE AT HOME OWNERSHIP AND TURNING THIS INTO AN OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITY FOR THESE PEOPLE, I, I GUESS THESE JOBS ARE GONNA BE DECENT PAYING JOBS, RIGHT? SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE, I THINK, DID YOU GIVE ANY CONSIDERATION TO, UM, YOU GUYS SEEM BUTTONED UP, SO I'M, I'M GUESSING YOU LOOKED IN EVERY CORNER, BUT DID YOU GIVE CONSIDERATION TO CREATING OWNERSHIP HERE FOR THESE PEOPLE? WELL, WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T WANNA GET INTO THE CONDO BUSINESS.
BUT AGAIN, THE, THESE APARTMENTS AT 7 75 IS JUST A DROP IN THE BUCKET TO 32,000 NEW JOBS.
AND A LOT OF THESE JOBS ARE GONNA BE CREATED.
COMPANIES ARE GONNA BE MOVING PEOPLE IN.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S A COMBO PLATTER OF EVERYTHING.
IF I COULD JUST BUILD, IF WE COULD JUST BUILD AT NEXT POINT LIFE SCIENCE BUILDINGS, I'D BE THE HAPPIEST GUY IN THE WORLD AT 25 AND $30 A SQUARE FOOT.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE APARTMENTS ARE, ARE NOT A ECONOMIC WINNER FOR US AT ALL.
IT'S JUST A NECESSITY THAT WE, WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO HOUSE.
WELL, I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ANSWERING ALL THE QUESTIONS.
BIT OF A CLARIFICATION, UM, WHEN THESE UNITS GO UP, ARE THEY OPEN TO THE PUBLIC? CAN I FIND IT ON ZILLOW, FOR INSTANCE? SIR, AGAIN, I'M SORRY.
WHEN THE UNITS GO UP, THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS ARE, IS IT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC OR IS IT STRICTLY FOR THE LIFE SCIENCE? COMPLETELY OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
COMPLETELY OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
AND AGAIN, AS WE SIT TODAY, I DON'T THINK YOU'LL, YOU'LL HAVE IN MY SCHEDULE, YOU WON'T HAVE A MOVE IN UNTIL, UM, FOUR YEARS FROM NOW.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOUR YEARS DOWN THE ROAD
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BEFORE THESE APARTMENTS WOULD ACTUALLY BE OPERATIONAL, BUT COMPLETELY OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.COMMISSIONER LOLE, WOULD YOU, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DO.
THE, THE FIRST QUESTION I WOULD ASK IS WHERE HAS NEXT POINT DONE THIS IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY? UH, NEXT POINT HAS NOT DONE THIS IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY, BUT WE ARE A BIG INVESTOR IN THE LIFE SCIENCE BUSINESS.
UM, WE INVESTED AS ONE OF THE LARGEST INVESTORS IN A COMPANY CALLED I Q H Q, WHICH IS, UH, BASED OUT OF RALEIGH DURHAM.
AND WE HAVE, UH, INVESTED IN A COMPANY THAT BASICALLY IS NOW OUT IN THE MARKETPLACE TO RAISE, I DON'T KNOW, A COUPLE BILLION DOLLARS.
UM, FROM A DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT, WE HAVEN'T DONE ANY OF THIS RELATED DEVELOPMENT, BUT BY THE TIME THAT WE GET DONE WITH C R B AND ALL THE ARCHITECTURAL AND ENGINEERING IS DONE, IT'S LITERALLY THE BUILDING OF THE BUILDINGS.
THE REAL SCIENCE IS WHAT OUR GOOD FRIENDS FROM CRB AND KIMLEY HORN BRING, WHICH IS THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO CONVERT THESE BUILDINGS.
AND THEN ON THE NEW BUILDINGS, WHEN YOU REALLY LOOK AT THE, THE, UH, THERAPEUTIC PRODUCTION FACILITIES, SIR, THOSE ARE TILT WALL BUILDINGS.
THOSE ARE THE SIMPLEST BUILDINGS IN THE WORLD TO BUILD.
IT'S WHAT GOES INSIDE OF THEM.
YOU KNOW, 40 FOOT CLEARS ALL THE AIR HANDLERS.
SO I'M VERY CONFIDENT THAT UNDER MY DIRECTION, UH, WE CAN BUILD ANY AND ALL OF THIS.
I BROUGHT IN A GREAT STAFF, THEY'VE ALLOWED ME AS MUCH LATITUDE AS WE CAN HAVE, BUT WE'RE IN THE LIFE SCIENCE BUSINESS, BUT REALLY NOBODY HAS EVER BUILT 4 MILLION SQUARE FEET IN ONE LOCATION.
YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT THE PHASING WITH PHASE ONE, PHASE TWO, AND THEN THIS MULTIFAMILY PART OF THE PROJECT BEING PHASE THREE.
YOU ALSO SPOKE OF 32,000 JOBS.
WHAT JOBS DO YOU EXPECT TO COME WITH PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO? UH, THERE'LL BE A LOT OF TECHNICAL RELATED JOBS IN LABS, A LOT OF RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT, AND THEN, UH, YOU KNOW, PHARMACEUTICAL PRODUCTION, UH, THAT IS GONNA BE A BIG PIECE OF THIS.
SO, UH, A LOT OF THE LAB TECHNICIANS, SCIENTISTS RELATED STUFF, YOU KNOW, UM, AND, AND, AND REALLY, UH, A LOT OF RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT IN THE FIRST TWO PHASES.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE LAST PHASES, AND HERE AGAIN, WE HAVEN'T REALLY TALKED ABOUT THE HOSPITAL, UH, THE RESEARCH HOSPITAL, ONLY BECAUSE IT'S NOT PART OF THIS PLAN, BUT WE HAVE, WE DESIGNS EARLY ON TO BRING IN A RESEARCH HOSPITAL IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS, WE THINK THAT FULLY COMPLETES THIS 4 BILLION PROGRAM.
AND WITH THE RESEARCH HOSPITAL, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE EVERY KIND OF, YOU KNOW, FUNCTION INSIDE A RESEARCH HOSPITAL LIKE A MAYO CLINIC, UT SOUTHWESTERN, UH, DANA FARBER, ALL THESE MAJOR PLAYERS.
SO THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE JOBS IN PHASES ONE AND TWO ARE GONNA BE TECHNICAL JOBS.
SOME OF THEM ARE GONNA BE PHARMACEUTICAL MANUFACTURING JOBS, BUT A LOT OF R AND D AND A LOT OF LAB WORK.
AND I, I GUESS THE PART THAT I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT IS THAT THE REASONING FOR THE MULTIFAMILY IS TO HOUSE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING OUTTA COLLEGE TO, THAT ARE GONNA TAKE THESE IMPORTANT JOBS.
BUT IF THE JOBS ARE EXISTING IN PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE APARTMENTS WOULD ALMOST NEED TO BE BUILT ALONGSIDE IT.
IF, IF THE APARTMENTS ARE REALLY FOR TO HOUSE THOSE PEOPLE.
IF YOU ARE, THEY'VE ALREADY BROUGHT PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO AND ALL THOSE EMPLOYEES ARE HERE, THEY WILL HAVE ALREADY MOVED IN SOMEWHERE AND BE BE BEFORE YOU'RE BUILDING THESE APARTMENTS AT ALL, RIGHT? WELL, NO, BECAUSE, UH, THE FIRST PHASE IS 7,800 JOBS IN, IN THE FIRST TWO PHASES IS ABOUT 12,000 JOBS.
AND SO THE LAST TWO PHASES STILL ARE GIGANTIC JOB CREATORS.
AND ONLY BECAUSE I'VE LIVED HERE, ONLY BECAUSE I'VE BEEN IN FRONT OF THE ZONING BOARD MORE TIMES THAN I COULD ADMIT OVER 43 YEARS.
I DIDN'T WANNA COME IN HERE WITH APARTMENTS ON PHASE ONE.
SO WE'RE JUST GONNA HAVE TO MAKE DUE AS BEST WE CAN WITH THE SURROUNDING AREAS.
WHAT I MENTIONED BEFORE, I REALLY MEAN I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO HAVE TO GO TO FRISCO TO LIVE, BUT I THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLANO TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE THE FIRST TWO PHASES.
IF ALL THINGS WERE EQUAL, I PROBABLY TRY TO BUILD 300 UNITS JUST AT THE START, JUST TO MAKE SURE, BUT I DIDN'T WANNA COME IN WITH THAT PLAN, I DIDN'T WANNA DO THAT.
SO THAT, THAT'S THE REAL REASON WHY.
BUT THERE'S GONNA BE AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF JOB GROWTH AFTER PHASE TWO.
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WE THINK AT OUR LOOK AT THE MARKETPLACE, ESPECIALLY ACROSS THE STREET AND DOWN THE STREET AND NORTH OF, UH, LEGACY EAST, THERE'S ENOUGH THERE TO GET US THROUGH.WE THINK THE FIRST TWO PHASES.
WELL, THE LAST THING I WOULD SAY IS, I MEAN, THIS, SIR, THIS, SORRY, I'M GETTING A LITTLE FEEDBACK.
CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME? YES, I, I CAN NOW.
BIGGEST ONE I'VE EVER DONE, SIR.
THESE APARTMENTS, I MEAN, THIS, THIS PROJECT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITHOUT THE APARTMENTS AT ALL, IS IT NOT? NO, I, NO, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE, WE WOULD HAVE TO SCALE IT BACK.
YOU KNOW, THE, ONE OF THE FIRST QUESTIONS THAT THERMO FISHER ASKS OR SOME OF THESE BIG COMPANIES IS WHERE ARE PEOPLE GONNA LIVE? AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION WHEN THEY COME HERE AND SEE THE ECO ZONE THAT'S BUILT.
THEY GET IT FOR THE FIRST COUPLE THREE YEARS.
BUT YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER, THIS IS SEVEN YEAR PROJECT.
WE'RE GONNA BUILD THIS IN FOUR PHASES.
SO IF THE APARTMENTS DIDN'T GET APPROVED, WE CAN'T BUILD WHAT WE HAVE ON THE DOCKET BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO HOUSE THE PEOPLE NO MATTER WHAT PLAN WE COME UP WITH.
SO THAT WOULD BE THE MOST DIRECT WAY I COULD ANSWER IT.
WILL THE PROJECT HAPPEN? A PORTION OF THE PROJECT WOULD HAPPEN, BUT IF WE CAN'T HOUSE THE PEOPLE, THEN THE COMPANIES ARE NOT GONNA HAVE COMFORT THAT THEY CAN LOCATE THESE BIG FACILITIES HERE.
AND, AND IF YOU LOOK AROUND THE, THE WHOLE SPECTRUM OF, OF LIFE SCIENCE, IT BECOMES A GIGANTIC ISSUE.
YOU KNOW, THEY WANT PEOPLE TO WORK, LIVE AND PLAY PRETTY MUCH IN THE SAME AREA.
SO WE'RE JUST GOING BY A YEAR TO TWO YEARS OF A LOT OF HARD WORK, A LOT OF STUDYING.
AND AGAIN, I I, IF I DIDN'T HAVE TO BUILD ANY APARTMENTS, I'D BE THE HAPPIEST GUY IN THE WORLD, BUT THAT'S NOT REALITY.
THE LAST THING YOU REFERENCED THIS BUILDING, AND IT'S JUST A TERM I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH, IT WAS GOD SOMETHING, GOD POD.
THAT'S WHAT THE, THE CITY IS CALLED IT.
AND WHAT IS THAT, THE CENTERPIECE IN THIS EXISTING BUILDING? IT'S THE CENTERPIECE.
I TRIED TO CALL IT SOMETHING ELSE, AND I GOT STOPPED IN THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.
DON'T BE MAD AT ME, CITY MANAGER, BUT THEY SAID, NO, THAT'S THE GOD POD.
I SAID, OKAY, I'LL, I'LL GO WITH THAT.
THANK, THANK YOU, MR. THANK SIR FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER RILEY.
YEAH, JUST ONE FOLLOW UP QUESTION.
UM, PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO IS ROUGHLY 1,000,003 SQUARE FEET, GIVE OR TAKE.
WHAT'S THE ABOUT GIVE OR TAKE? YES.
UM, WHAT'S THE LEASE UP SCHEDULE ON THAT? DOES THAT, I MEAN, DO YOU HAVE A MILLION SQUARE FEET OF PEOPLE OUT THERE WAITING FOR YOU TO HAVE THIS ONLINE? OR WHAT, WHAT ARE Y'ALL LOOKING AT AS THE LEASE UP? WE THINK THAT WE'LL HAVE SOME EARLY ANNOUNCEMENTS.
UM, TONIGHT IS A VERY IMPORTANT NIGHT, BUT THE NEXT IMPORTANT NIGHT IS GETTING THROUGH THE CITY, THE COUNTY, AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WITH THE INCENTIVE PROGRAM.
WE ARE NEGOTIATING IN GOOD FAITH NOW WHERE I CAN'T DO ANYTHING LEGALLY OR PUBLICLY, BUT WE'RE NEGOTIATING NOW.
WE'RE PRETTY CONVINCED TO PUT OUR MONEY WHERE OUR MOUTH IS, THAT THE LIFE SCIENCE BUSINESS WANTS TO COME TO NORTH TEXAS.
THEY LOVE THE, THE, THE, THE CENTRAL GOVERNMENT.
THEY LOVE THE FACT THAT PLANO IS SUCH A GREAT CITY.
I MEAN, I GO AROUND THE, THE COUNTRY AND I'LL EVENTUALLY GO AROUND THE WORLD SELLING PLANO, AND THERE'S A LOT TO SELL.
I MEAN, YOU WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT QUALITY OF LIFE, YOU WANNA TAKE A LOOK AT HOUSING, YOU WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE POLICE SITUATION, YOU WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE WHOLE GAMUT OF PLANO.
IT'S AS GOOD A CITY, A SUBURBAN CITY TO A MAJOR CITY THAT THERE IS IN THE COUNTRY.
AND WHEN PEOPLE COME HERE, THEY SEE IT.
WE TRY TO EXPLAIN THESE BUILDINGS, THEY WALK INTO BUILDINGS AND THEY'RE JUST, THEY CAN'T BELIEVE IT.
AND SO WE'VE GOT SOME ADVANTAGES, BUT WE'VE, WE, WE, WE'VE, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO, BUT WE FEEL VERY GOOD ABOUT THE MARKETPLACE.
WE'RE WILLING TO PUT OUR MONEY WHERE OUR MOUTH IS.
THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, MR. ALI.
LET'S FOCUS ON LAND USE STUFF VERSUS GETTING TOO DEEP INTO, ANYWAY, LET'S GO AHEAD.
UH, AND IT'S TOO, TOO LAND USE.
I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.
SO NEXT POINT OWNS THE PROPERTY.
YES, IT'S OWNED IN A PARTNERSHIP, THE CDS PARTNERSHIP, BUT NEXT POINT IS THE OWNER AND OPERATOR.
CRB WILL OPERATE THE RESEARCH QUARTER IF THEY, THEY WON'T OPERATE THE RESEARCH THEY'RE DESIGNING.
THEY'RE DESIGN, DESIGN, UH, THEY'RE THE, THEY'RE THE ARCHITECT FOR ALL OF THIS PROJECT, ALL 4 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF IT.
AND, UH, KIMLEY HORN IS WORKING WITH THEM, BUT CRB IS THE NUMBER ONE LIFE SCIENCE PLAYER IN THE WORLD, NOT IN THE UNITED STATES, IN THE WORLD.
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AND SO WE WERE LUCKY ENOUGH TO GET THEIR TOP TEAM.WE HAVE SPENT AN UNBELIEVABLE AMOUNT OF TIME ON THIS BECAUSE IF WE WERE BUILDING JUST STRAIGHT BUILDINGS, IT WOULD BE A LOT EASIER THAN CONVERTING THESE BUILDINGS.
BUT THE GREAT NEWS IS THEY CONVERT, YOU KNOW, I WAS ROSS PRO, SR.
I THINK HE WOULD LOOK DOWN ON US TONIGHT AND BE HAPPY WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING.
IT'S ALMOST LIKE HE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS BEFORE HE BUILT THE BUILDING.
I MEAN, IT JUST LAYS OUT WITH THE LABS AND THE R AND D IT LAYS OUT PERFECTLY.
SO NEXT POINTS, THE OWNER AND CRB IS THE, IS THE ARCHITECT.
AND THEN WE HAVE J L L, THEIR TOP US TEAM.
THAT'S THE MARKETING GROUP THAT ULTIMATELY WE WORK WITH ON A DAILY BASIS.
SO WE'VE GOT THE TEAM PRETTY WELL SET, BUT LIKE I SAID, I CAN'T DO ANYTHING TILL, IF WE'RE LUCKY ENOUGH TO GET THROUGH THIS TONIGHT ON AUGUST 28TH, IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE OUR LAST, UH, CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
AND, UM, IF THAT HAPPENS, I'D LIKE TO BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION BY THE END OF SEPTEMBER.
BUT I'LL BE, I'LL BE PRETTY BRIEF.
TO ME, THIS LOOKS LIKE A VERY HIGH END.
UM, IF YOU WERE TO GO TO A IVY LEAGUE SCHOOL CAMPUS OR SOMETHING WHERE YOU, YOU NEED HOUSING THERE BECAUSE THE PEOPLE BASICALLY LIVE IN THE LABS.
I THINK ABOUT, UM, UH, WHAT MOVIE WAS IT? THE MARTIAN, RIGHT? AND YOU HAVE THE, THE YOUNG GUY THAT PURNELL, WHOEVER PURNELL IS RIGHT.
WHO'S SLEEPING ON A COT IN HIS ROOM, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT HE, THAT'S HIS, YOU MENTIONED LIVE, WORK AND PLAY.
WELL, THEIR PLAY IS THEIR WORK.
THEY NEED A PLACE TO LAY THEIR HEAD AT NIGHT.
SO TO ME, THE 775 APARTMENTS, I THINK IT'S JUST A TOKEN BECAUSE YOU REALLY PROBABLY NEED MORE THAN THAT.
AND HONESTLY, ACROSS THE STREET IS LIKE 96% OCCUPIED, SO RIGHT.
AND I KNOW PEOPLE DON'T LIKE THE APARTMENTS.
THEY SAY THEY BRING IN TRAFFIC, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, THAT MIGHT BE 775 PEOPLE THAT AREN'T DRIVING TO THE CAMPUS.
AND TO, TO MR. LYLE'S POINT, I'M SURPRISED THAT THEY'RE NOT INTEGRATED EARLIER INTO THE PROJECT PERSONALLY.
AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING YEAH.
IS THAT IF YOU CAME IN LEADING WITH RESIDENTIAL, JUST GO AHEAD AND WALK AWAY, KIND OF, THAT'S THE MOOD.
IF AGAIN, WE'RE LUCKY ENOUGH TO GET A POSITIVE VOTE TONIGHT, AND WE'RE A YEAR AND A HALF DOWN THE ROAD AND WE'RE JUST OVERWHELMED, WE'LL COME BACK.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I, I REALLY DIDN'T FEEL IT WAS NECESSARY BASED ON OUR DATA, UH, FOR THE FIRST TWO PHASES.
SO, UM, I, I THINK THAT, UH, YOU, BETWEEN ALL OF THEM, THEY'VE PROBABLY ASKED ALL THE QUESTIONS I COULD HAVE, UH, AT THIS POINT.
SO IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS ON IT AT THIS POINT, WE'RE DONE.
I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ALL RIGHT, MR. HILL, I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION.
JUST WANTED TO RESPOND TO YOUR QUESTION EARLIER ABOUT PARKLAND.
UM, HAGGER PARK DOWNTOWN IS SEVEN ACRES.
UH, BRUCE, BRUCE GLASSCOCK PARK IN LEGACY WEST IS ABOUT SEVEN ACRES AS WELL.
MR. BRUNHOFF HAS A, HE'S NUMBER ONE.
DO YOU WANT TO GET BACK FOR ANOTHER QUESTION? NO, I'M TALKING WITH THESE GUYS.
UM, A PROJECT OF THIS SIZE, THIS SCOPE, THIS DEGREE OF ECONOMIC IMPACT, UM, PRESENTING SUCH A, UM, A WELL INTEGRATED AND COMPLIMENTARY MIX OF USES INTERNALLY, I THINK IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY OF PLANO THAT WE DARE NOT PASS UP.
UH, GOING BACK TO MY PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE IN THE CITY OF IRVING, I REMEMBER WHEN NATIONAL COMPANIES WOULD COME THROUGH LOOKING TO LOCATE, AND THEY WERE CONSIDERING IRVING, AND THEY WERE CONSIDERING OTHER PLACES TOO.
FOR EXAMPLE, BOEING CAME THROUGH AND, YOU KNOW, IRVING TRIED TO SELL THEM ON MOVING TO IRVING, AND THEY DIDN'T, THEY MOVED TO CHICAGO, I BELIEVE IT WAS.
BUT IN EACH CASE, IT'S A SITUATION WHERE, WHEN A MAJOR EMPLOYER COMES IN AND TELLS YOU THEY'RE INTERESTED IN MOVING HERE, THEY'VE, THEY'VE BEEN LOOKING AT OTHER PLACES, AND IF YOU DON'T GET THEM, SOMEBODY ELSE WILL.
THEY COULD WIND UP IN FRISCO IF WE DON'T TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY.
UM, 30,000 JOBS IS A HUGE ECONOMIC IMPACT.
I AM NOT AFRAID OF THE APARTMENTS.
UM, THERE, A PROJECT OF THIS SIZE BASICALLY IS CREATING ITS OWN HOUSING MARKET, ITS OWN NEED FOR HOUSING, WHICH THEY ARE SATISFYING TO THE BEST OF THEIR
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ABILITY TO THE EXTENT THAT THIS PROPERTY WILL PERMIT, YOU KNOW, THE SIZE OF THE, OF THE PROPERTY.UM, I APPRECIATE YOUR POINT ABOUT, UM, HAVING THE EMPLOYEES LIVE WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT WILL ACTUALLY CUT DOWN ON TRIPS RATHER THAN BUILD TRAFFIC.
UH, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF, UH, WRITTEN COMMENTS FROM CITIZENS CONCERNED ABOUT CRIME.
I DO NOT BELIEVE FOR ONE SECOND THAT THIS COMPANY IS IN THE BUSINESS OF HIRING CRIMINALS TO, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE DRUGS.
UH, I THINK THE EMPLOYEES THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE PUTTING IN THERE ARE GOING TO BE COLLEGE EDUCATED, UH, UH, AFFLUENT PEOPLE.
UM, THESE APARTMENTS ARE BEING BILLED TO SATISFY A SPECIFIC MARKET SPECIFIC TO THIS PROJECT.
UH, I THINK IT'S A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY AND I INTEND TO VOTE FOR IT.
YEAH, I THINK THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF GOOD POINTS MADE HERE, COMMISSIONER BRUNO AND CHAIR.
I, I AGREE WITH YOU IN TERMS OF THE WALKABILITY OF THIS, YOU KNOW, UM, ANYTIME WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDING APARTMENTS TO PLANO, LIKE, UH, LIKE MR. ZANELLI HERE, I, I PAUSE BECAUSE, UM, I THINK THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT TALKS ABOUT PRESERVING THE SUBURBAN CHARACTER OF PLANO.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, I, I KNOW SOME PEOPLE THINK MAYBE PLANO IS NO LONGER A BEDROOM COMMUNITY, AND I, I JUST REFUSE TO SUBMIT TO THAT.
I THINK THAT WE CAN BE, AND I THINK WE NEED TO TRY TO PRESERVE THAT BECAUSE IT IS PART OF PLANO.
WITH THAT SAID, I THINK THIS IS A FANTASTIC PROJECT, AND LIKE COMMISSIONER BRUNO, I THINK TO TURN THIS DOWN WOULD, WOULD BE SHORTSIGHTED.
UM, AND, AND, AND SO, YOU KNOW, I I THINK THIS CAN PROVIDE TREMENDOUS BENEFIT TO OUR COMMUNITY IN SO MANY DIFFERENT REGARDS.
UM, AND, UH, IT, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU GUYS HAVE REALLY DONE GOOD WORK IN, IN GETTING THIS READY.
UM, SO, UM, WITH THAT SAID, THERE'S ONE THING I'M UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE DISCUSSION WE WERE HAVING OF BIFURCATING THIS SITE AND LOOKING AT IT AS DIFFERENT SITES, UM, TO CREATE A DIFFERENT ZONING CLASSIFICATION.
SO I THINK THAT'S A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT FOR US TO GET TO SAY, HEY, WE'RE GONNA CUT UP THIS SITE AND GIVE THIS ONE ZONING FOR SOMETHING ELSE.
SO I'M NOT SAYING ANYBODY SAID TO DO THAT, BUT, BUT THERE WAS DISCUSSION ALONG THAT LINE AND, AND I THINK WE NEED TO BE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT THAT.
WITH THAT SAID, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, I THINK THAT, UH, I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE THIS FORWARD.
THAT'S, THAT'S MY OPINION, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD THING FOR P PLANO.
COMMISSIONER ROWLEY, THANK TO COMMISSIONER KERRY'S POINT.
UM, WE ARE CHARTERED, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, WITH MAKING SURE WE PRESERVE PLAINS, SUBURBAN SUBURBAN QUALITY AND ITS TRANSITION, UH, TO A MORE MATURE, UH, CITY IN A VERY THOUGHTFUL MANNER.
UM, PLANO IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT IT WAS 25 YEARS AGO.
UH, WE HAVE THE FORTUNE FIVE HUNDREDS TO PROVE IT.
UM, AND, UH, A KEY COMPONENT OF THE GUIDING PRINCIPLE FOR PLANO 2050 IS FOR THIS BODY TO ENSURE THAT WE BALANCE BOTH TENSIONS AS, AS THIS CITY, QUITE FRANKLY, WE DON'T, WITHOUT OUR LIKING MOVES IN A CERTAIN DIRECTION.
THAT IS, UM, VERY SYNONYMOUS WITH THE REST, REST OF THE WORLD.
UM, THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT OF THIS, YOU KNOW, I STRUGGLED WITH UNTIL I READ THE PRIORITIES FOR THE EM DESIGNATION, AND IT WAS MAINTAINING LAND FOR EMPLOYMENT GENERATING USES.
AND I CANNOT THINK OF ANY MORE EMPLOYMENT GENERATING USE THAN THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL.
UM, SO I AM VERY MUCH IN FAVOR AS HAVING BEEN ONE OF THOSE YOUNG CATS WHO, UM, HAD TO LIVE IN A SORT OF MIXED USE, UH, HAVING TO LIVE NEXT TO AN EMPLOYER WHILE I DO MY PRACTICUM.
I APPRECIATE THE THOUGHT THAT I WOULD HAVE A PLACE NOT TOO FAR AWAY TO LAY MY HEAD.
SO, UM, I AM VERY MUCH IN, UM, FAVOR OF THIS PROPOSAL AND, UH, LOOK FORWARD TO WHAT, UH, WHAT IT BECOMES.
UM, I CONCUR WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID.
UM, ONE OF THE, ONE THING THAT REALLY KIND OF SOLIDIFIES MY POSITION ON THIS IS I THINK THAT THIS PROJECT WITH ITS ADJACENCY TO THE UA DISTRICT, AND I'M NOT SUGGESTING WE WOULD CHANGE THE MASTER PLAN, BUT I THINK AS A PRESERVATION OF THE CONTINUITY OF THE DISTRICT, THE, THE, THE, UH, MULTIFAMILY
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USE ACROSS THE STREET FROM EXISTING MULTIFAMILY USE DOESN'T CONCERN ME, UM, AS MUCH AS IT MIGHT IN OTHER AREAS OF TOWN.AND I THINK, UM, IT IS ACTUALLY PROBABLY SOMEWHAT OF A BUFFER.
UM, AND ALSO AN, UH, A ENHANCEMENT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT TO HELP THIS DEVELOPMENT BE MORE SUCCESSFUL WITH THAT HOUSING COMPONENT.
AND SO IF I, IF I LOOK AT IT THAT WAY, AND THEN I'M, UH, UH, TO MR. KERRY'S POINT, I'M NOT SUGGESTING WE WOULD CHANGE THE PLAN, BUT IF I LOOK AT IT AS IF WE WERE LOOKING AT A BLANK SHEET OF PAPER AND SAY, WOULD IT MAKE SENSE TO HAVE THAT AS A UA VERSUS EM IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, IT DOES, TO ME, IT MAKES SENSE THAT, THAT THE UA ADJACENCY COULD CONTINUE ONTO THIS PROPERTY FOR THE FIRST 250 FEET.
THAT DOESN'T OFFEND ME AT ALL.
UH, I DON'T THINK IT COMPROMISES THE SUBURBAN CHARACTER OF THE 98% OF PLANO.
UM, AND SO, UH, I DON'T FIND THAT, UM, UH, A NEGATIVE IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM.
UM, THE ONLY PART THAT, THAT I THINK STAFF BROUGHT UP IS THE HOUSING MIX QUESTION.
AND, AND SO TO MY MIND, THAT'S, IN MY MIND, THAT'S THE QUESTION OF THE FINDINGS FORM IS THE HOUSING MIX.
AND THAT'S, IF THAT'S THE ONLY NEGATIVE THAT I SEE IN THIS WHOLE PROPOSAL IS THE HOUSING MIX COMPONENT IN THE LEGACY AREA IN THE EM, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S CERTAINLY NOT ENOUGH TO CHANGE MY MIND.
SO WITH THAT SAID, I'M, I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS.
I THINK IT'S A, A GREAT REUSE OF THIS FACILITY.
I THINK THE, THE INTENSITY THAT IT WILL BRING FOR EMPLOYMENT AND FOR NEW, UH, CORPORATE PARTNERS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND, AND NEW RESIDENTS OF OUR COMMUNITY, UH, IS, IS AN EXCITING OPPORTUNITY.
SO, UM, I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE COMMISSIONER, LAW CHAIRMAN.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS, RESURRECT THE GOD POD AND VOTE FOR FRANK WITH ONE STIPULATION THAT WE WOULD, UH, HAVE THEM TAKE THE TWO ACRES THAT'S IN YELLOW AND MAKE THAT A PARK, KNOWING THAT AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, IF THERE IS A NEED ON THE SITE, THEY COULD ALWAYS COME BACK.
SO YOU MADE A MOTION, BUT ONLY I CAN MAKE A MOTION TO, TO APPROVE, BUT TAKE THE AREA THAT'S SHADED IN YELLOW AND MAKE THAT PART OF THE OPEN SPACE.
SO BEFORE WE TALK ANYMORE, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEARING, BECAUSE AT FIRST IT SOUNDED LIKE WHAT YOU SAID WAS THAT THEY COULD USE THAT FOR SOMETHING ELSE LATER.
AND I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR, BECAUSE WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS TO KEEP IT PART OF THE OPEN SPACE UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THEY FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS THEY WANT TO USE IT FOR, AND THEN THEY WOULD COME BACK TO US FOR APPROVAL ON THAT.
IS THAT SOMETHING YOU'RE OKAY WITH OR ARE YOU SAYING IT NEEDS TO REMAIN OPEN SPACE? UH, OPEN SPACE.
YOU CAN ALWAYS COME BACK AND ASK.
I WOULD JUST SAY LET'S, I MEAN, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT WE MAKE IT PART OF THE OPEN SPACE NOW IS MY UNDERSTANDING.
AND SO MY MOTION IS INTENDED TO BE IN LINE WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, BUT TO GIVE THEM THE 30 FEET ON ALONG PARKWOOD BOULEVARD THAT THEY SAY THAT THEY NEED FOR UTILITIES AND SO FORTH.
SO BASICALLY YOUR, YOUR, YOUR MOTION IS TO APPROVE ITEM THREE, A SUBJECT TO RETAINING THE, UH, OPEN SPACE AT 11 AND A HALF ACRES INSTEAD OF NINE AND A HALF ACRES.
CAN I ASK A QUESTION BEFORE YOU HAVE A SECOND? IS THAT ALLOWED OR DO I NEED A SECOND TO ASK A QUESTION? THERE SHOULD BE A SECOND FOR DISCUSSION.
UH, OKAY, THEN I'LL, I'LL, WELL, LET ME ASK IF, DOES ANYONE WANNA SECOND THAT PROPOSAL, THAT MOTION? BECAUSE IF WE DON'T HAVE A SECOND FOR THAT MOTION, THEN WE HAVE TO NE FIND ANOTHER MOTION.
ALL RIGHT, SO WE DON'T HAVE A SECOND FOR YOUR MOTION BILL.
SO YOU WANNA ASK YOUR QUESTION THEN WITHOUT, LET ME, LEMME ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION BECAUSE IF THAT LOT, IF THAT AREA OF THE DEVELOPMENT IS CURRENTLY SHOWN AS OPEN SPACE ON THE MA ON THE SITE PLAN THAT IS BEFORE US TONIGHT MM-HMM.
IT, IT WOULD REQUIRE A SITE PLAN.
IT WOULD NOT REQUIRE IT BE PRESERVED AS OPEN SPACE.
SO THE APPLICANT COULD USE IT FOR DEVELOPMENT, BUT IN ORDER TO USE IT FOR DEVELOPMENT, THEY WOULD'VE TO BRING FORWARD A SITE PLAN AMENDMENT FOR OUR REVIEW AND APPROVAL.
BUT IF IT MEETS THE CITY'S DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, YOU'RE OBLIGATED TO APPROVE IT THEN IT WOULD BE ADMINISTRATIVE.
YEAH, IT WOULD BE ADMINISTRATIVE, NOT LEGISLATIVE.
THAT'S, IT'S KINDA LIKE WHAT'S HAPPENED WITH CONCRETE WHERE THEY'VE COME
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BACK TO US TWO OR THREE TIMES WITH REVISED.THAT'S, SO THAT'S THE, THAT WOULD BE THE CLARIFICATION THAT IT WOULD BE AN ADMINISTRATIVE ACT? THAT'S CORRECT.
WHICH WE GIVES ME SOME COMFORT.
IT'LL BE ADMINISTRATIVE, NOT LEGISLATIVE, WHICH HANDCUFFS US TO SOME EXTENT, BUT WE COULD STILL SPEAK INTO IT SO IT SOUNDS, WELL WE COULDN'T GET A SECOND ON THE RETAINING IT AS, IN OTHER WORDS, REQUIRING THEM TO HAVE 11 AND A HALF ACRES.
SO IT DIDN'T SOUND LIKE EVERYBODY WAS REALLY IN FAVOR OF HANDCUFFING HIM.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM TWO A SECOND.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM TWO A.
PARDON MY FA EARLIER BY COMMISSIONER BRUNO WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RATLIFF.
MR. LYLE, HOW DO YOU VOTE? YES.
OKAY, SO BY A VOTE OF SIX TO ZERO ITEM TWO A CARRIES, I NOW NEED A VOTE OR A MOTION ON ITEM TWO B.
COMMISSIONER BRUNO, DO WE WANT TO DO JUST AS LONG AS WE KNOW THAT WE'RE DOING, WE HAVE TO DO THE FINDINGS? YEAH, LET'S GET TWO B OUT OF THE WAY.
AND THEN WE CAN DO OUR BUSINESS FINDINGS.
SO I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BRUNO WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RATLIFF TO APPROVE ITEM TWO B, PLEASE VOTE MR. LYLE? YES.
SO ITEM TWO B ALSO CARRIES BY A VOTE OF SIX TO ZERO.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION TONIGHT.
UH, WE'RE GONNA TAKE A, A BRIEF, UH, BREAK HERE.
WE HAVE SOME BUSINESS TO TAKE CARE OF, UH, ON OUR FINDINGS FORMS. SO IF YOU NEED TO TAKE A LITTLE POTTY BREAK OR SOMETHING, NOW'S THE TIME.
UM, WE WILL RECONVENE NOW AND MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE A.
I WILL READ, UH, THREE PROJECTS TOGETHER SINCE THEY COINCIDE.
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A IS A PUBLIC HEARING ZONING CASE 2023 DASH 0 0 8 REQUEST FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR VEHICLE STORAGE ON 2.7 ACRES LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF PREMIER DRIVE.600 FEET SOUTH OF LEXINGTON DRIVE ZONE CORRIDOR COMMERCIAL PETITIONER IS B T C PLANO RENTAL PROPERTIES L L C.
THAT IS FOR LEGISLATIVE CONSIDERATION.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE B, PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT PLAN CREST CADILLAC EDITION BLOCK B LOT ONE VEHICLE STORAGE ON 2.7 ACRES LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF PREMIER DRIVE, 1,660 FEET NORTH OF ENTERPRISE DRIVE ZONE COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR.
APPLICANT AGAIN IS VTC PLANO RENTAL PROPERTIES L L C.
THAT PARTICULAR ITEM IS ADMINISTRATIVE CONSIDERATION.
FINAL AGENDA ITEM NUMBERS THREE C PUBLIC HEARING.
PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN BAN TILE EDITION BLOCK A LOT TWO NEW VEHICLE DEALER ON ONE LOT ON 10.5 ACRES LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF US.
HIGHWAY 75 1,660 FEET NORTH OF ENTERPRISE DRIVE ZONE CORRIDOR COMMERCIAL.
AGAIN, APPLICANT B T C PLANO RENTAL PROPERTIES L L C.
THIS ALSO IS FOR ADMINISTRATIVE CONSIDERATION.
I'M PARKER MCDOWELL PLANNER WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
UH, TONIGHT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A PACIFIC USE PERMIT FOR VEHICLE STORAGE ON 2.7 ACRES.
THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED CORRIDOR COMMERCIAL.
UH, THE ADJACENT PROPERTY TO THE NORTH IS ZONED CORRIDOR COMMERCIAL AS WELL AND DEVELOPED WITH MINI WAREHOUSE PUBLIC STORAGE, ELECTRICAL SUBSTATION, AND MAJOR VEHICLE REPAIR.
TO THE EAST OF THE SMALL STRIP IS THE ELECTRICAL SUBSTATION, ALSO ZONE CORRIDOR COMMERCIAL.
AND THEN ACROSS THE STREET, UH, PREMIER DRIVE, WHICH IS THE PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH THIS IS ZONE CORRIDOR COMMERCIAL AND A PROPOSED NEW VEHICLE DEALERSHIP TO THE SOUTH.
THE PROPERTY IS ZONE QUARTER COMMERCIAL AND IS CURRENTLY A VACANT PARKING LOT.
AND THEN TO THE WEST, THE PROPERTY IS ZONED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE SIX AND DEVELOPED WITH A SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN THE GREEN HOLLOW NEIGHBORHOOD AND A RELIGIOUS FACILITY.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS HIGHLIGHTING YELLOW ON THE SCREEN.
ON THE SCREEN IS THE ZONING EXHIBIT.
AND THEN THIS IS THE PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN
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SHOWING THE ASSOCIATED NEW VEHICLE DEALERSHIP OUTLINED IN BLUE.THE HISTORY ON THIS PROJECT PREVIOUSLY THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WAS USED AS AN OFFSITE PARKING LOT ASSOCIATED WITH THE CREST AUTO PARK, A FIVE LOT DEVELOPMENT FOCUS ON VEHICLE RELATED USES INCLUDING THE VEHICLE DEALERSHIP, VEHICLE REPAIR, AND VEHICLE STORAGE.
BASED ON HISTORIC AERIALS, THE SITE WAS TO USE AS VEHICLE STORAGE UNTIL 2017.
AND SINCE THE S U FOR VEHICLE STOR OR SINCE THE VEHICLE STORAGE WAS INITIALLY ABANDONED IN 2017, THE APPLICANT MUST REQUEST THIS S U TO REESTABLISH THE VEHICLE STORAGE.
AS A LEGAL USE ON THIS PROPERTY, THERE IS AN ENCROACHMENT FROM THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH AS SHOWN IN THE IMAGE ALONG THE NORTHWESTERN PORTION OF THE SLOT, A SECTION OF THE MINI WAREHOUSE TO THE NORTH ENCROACHES ON THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND INCLUDES PAVEMENT, FENCING, AND EXISTING OPEN STORAGE.
THE APPLICANT HAS COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNER TO EITHER MODIFY THE PROPERTY BOUNDARIES AND REMOVE THE AREA WITH THE ENCROACHMENT OR REMOVE THE IMPROVEMENTS.
THE PROPOSED S U P BOUNDARY DOES NOT INCLUDE THE R ENCROACHMENT.
THIS SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOC LOCATED THE EXPRESSWAY CORRIDOR CORRIDOR CATEGORIES OF THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP STAFF FINDS THE PROPOSED USE OF VEHICLE STORAGE IN THIS EXISTING LOT IS HAVING A NEUTRAL IMPACT ON THE OVERALL EXPRESSWAY CORP CATEGORY.
THIS REQUEST WOULD PROVIDE INDUSTRIAL TYPE AS DEFINED BY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS PROPOSED IN THE ASSOCIATED CONCEPT PLAN.
THE REQUEST WOULD COMPLY WITH THE RECOMMENDED MIX OF USES FOR THE EXPRESSWAY CORRIDOR DASHBOARD.
ON SCREEN IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICY SUMMARY CONSIDERING THE SITE, THE SITE'S HISTORICAL USE, ITS RELATIONSHIP TO THE ADJACENT AUTO DEALERSHIP AND THE GENERAL SITE IMPROVEMENTS PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT.
A STAFF FINDS THIS PROPOSED USE OF VEHICLE STORAGE AS HAVING A NEUTRAL IMPACT ON THE OVERALL EXPRESSWAY CORRIDOR CATEGORY.
STAFF RECEIVED TWO LETTERS OF OPPOSITION WITHIN THE 200 FOOT BUFFER.
CITYWIDE STAFF RECEIVED TWO RESPONSE OR TWO RESPONSES IN SUPPORT, FOUR NEUTRAL 10 OPPOSED 16 UNIQUE RESPONSES OF OF THOSE 16 UNIQUE RESPONSES.
WE ALSO RECEIVED THREE DUPLICATE RESPONSES FOR A TOTAL OF 19 RESPONSES.
SO STAFF RECOMMENDS THIS ITEM FOR APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED.
AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO NOTE THAT ITEMS THREE B AND THREE C ARE CONTINGENT ON APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM.
AND I'LL QUICKLY GO THROUGH THOSE.
SO THIS IS THE CONCEPT PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH THIS SGP REQUEST AS SHOWN ON SCREEN.
THIS IS THE PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN, THE VAN TITLE EDITION BLOCKADE LOT TWO, WHICH IS THE NEW VEHICLE DEALER COMPONENT ASSOCIATED WITH THIS.
AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS HERE AT THE PRESENTATION, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
PRELIMINARY MR. ALI WAS FIRST, THE PREVIOUS USE THAT WAS ABANDONED IN 2017.
IF THAT USE WAS NOT, UM, ABANDONED BY THE PREVIOUS OWNER, WHAT WOULD'VE HAPPENED TO THIS? THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN GRANDFATHERED IN.
IF IT WAS CONTINUED USES AND NOT ABANDONED FOR MORE THAN TWO YEARS, I BELIEVE IS THE TIMEFRAME.
TWO YEARS THEN THEY COULD BE STILL BE USED AS VEHICLE STORAGE WITHOUT THE S U IF IT WAS MAINTAINED.
THE RESIDENTIAL AREA THAT IS TO THE WEST OF THIS, UM, PROPERTY, WHEN WAS THAT BUILT? DO DO WE KNOW? UM, I DO NOT KNOW THE TOP OF MY HEAD WHEN IT WAS BUILT, BUT I BELIEVE IT WAS EXISTING WHEN THIS, UH, VEHICLE STORAGE CAME IN.
SO PRIOR TO 2017? YES, CORRECT.
UM, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE UH, THE LONG NARROW STRIP, UH, PROCEEDING NORTH FROM THE, UH, PROPERTY IS FOR? UM, I BELIEVE THAT WAS JUST LEFT OVER FROM HOW IT WAS SUBDIVIDED AND THEY'RE CURRENTLY NOT PROPOSING ANY DEVELOPMENT ON THERE.
SO IT'S JUST TO BE REMAINED UNDEVELOPED.
THAT NARROW STRIPP, IT'S NOT INTENDED AS A DRIVEWAY, FOR EXAMPLE? CORRECT.
IS THERE ANY SORT OF BUFFERING BEING PROPOSED, UM, TO SCREEN OFF THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES TO THE WEST? UH, THERE CURRENTLY EXISTS A MASONARY WALL BETWEEN, THAT RUNS ALONG THE ENTIRE PROPERTY LINE BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL AND THIS, UH, HOW TALL IS THE WALL? I BELIEVE IT IS SIX FEET TALL.
IS THERE ANY VEGETATION ALONG THE ROAD? UM, WHEN I WENT OUT THERE, I BELIEVE THERE IS SOME AND THE APPLICANT
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IS PROPOSING, UH, WHERE THE PARKING LOT WILL ACTUALLY BE INSTALLED.DOES THE, UH, PROPOSAL CONTEMPLATE, UH, PAVING OWNER OVER ANY AREAS THAT ARE NOT CURRENTLY ALREADY PAVED OVER? UM, I DO NOT BELIEVE SO.
I BELIEVE WHEN I WENT OUT TO THE SITE, IT CURRENTLY EXISTS AS A PARKING LOT AND FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN, UH, THEY'RE ACTUALLY PROPOSING ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE ISLANDS THAT DO NOT EXIST THERE TODAY.
BUT DO, DO YOU SEE THAT THIS WOULD CREATE ANY ADDITIONAL DRAINAGE ISSUES THAT, UM, UH, OVER AND ABOVE THE PRESENT CONDITION OF THE PROPERTY? UH, I DID ASK OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT IF THEY SEE ANY ISSUES OR AWARE OF ANY ISSUES.
THEY'RE CURRENTLY NOT AWARE OF ANY DRAINAGE ISSUES AND THEY SAID THAT WHEN IT GETS FARTHER ALONG IN THE PROCESS AND THEY SUBMIT MORE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS, THEY WILL REVIEW THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT ANY CHANGES DOES NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES.
COMMISSIONER KERRY? YEAH, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU MENTIONED WAS THAT THEY WERE GOING TO RESOLVE THIS ENCROACHMENT AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE THIS IS PROBABLY A QUESTION REALLY FOR THE APPLICANT, BUT, UM, WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY CANNOT RESOLVE THAT? IF THEY CAN'T COME TO AGREEMENT? UM, THEN SINCE THEY LEGALLY OWN THAT LAND AND IT WAS BUILT ON THEIR PROPERTY, THEY COULD WORK WITH OUR PROPERTY STANDARDS DIVISION TO HELP GET THAT REMOVED FROM THEIR PROPERTY.
COMMISSIONER BERNOFF, DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION OR, OKAY, VERY GOOD.
COMM, COMMISSIONER HILL, CHAIR HILL.
MR. HILL, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY SOMETHING MR. MCDOWELL SAID NONCONFORMING USES, THEY DO EXPIRE AFTER SIX MONTHS.
I THINK YOU MENTIONED SIX TWO YEARS, BUT IT'S SIX MONTHS.
SO FOR ALL YOU PEOPLE WITH SUVS, JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND.
SIX MONTHS AND YOU'RE OUTTA HERE.
MR. IFF CLARIFICATION, YOU SAID NON-CONFORMING USE VERSUS U U'S EXPIRED FOR FUNDS? NO, SIR.
IS THIS A CONFORMING USE UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING? IS THIS AN ALLOWABLE USE? NO, THEY'RE, THEY'RE SEEKING THE S U, WHICH IF GRANTED RUNS WITH THE LAND, UH, UNTIL IT IS RESCINDED, SO THAT WOULD BE PERMANENT.
THE PREVIOUS USE, IT WAS PREVIOUSLY USED FOR STORAGE AND, AND, AND THAT SORT OF THING.
THAT EX THAT WAS NOT ALLOWED, BUT IT WAS ABLE TO CONTINUE BECAUSE IT WAS OPERATING ON THE PROPERTY.
I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY, MAKE SURE I HEARD THAT RIGHT.
I WOULD, I I I, I DROVE OUT TO THIS SITE.
THE BRICK WALL IS GOT SOME DETERIORATION GOING ON.
UH, THERE'S, WE'VE SEEN LOTS OF DIFFERENT SITES THAT HAD SCREENING OR DIDN'T HAVE SCREENING.
I REALIZE THIS MASONRY WALL WAS THERE.
IS THERE A WAY TO REQ, I MEAN, THIS IS, THIS IS AN AREA THAT REALLY MAKES SENSE TO ME TO PROVIDE A GREEN SCREEN IN ADDITION TO THE WALL.
THEY'RE ALREADY PLANNING SOME ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING OUT THERE.
IS THAT, IT'S NOT FOR A LOT OF LINEAR FOOTAGE.
IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE IT'S A WAY TO, A ATTEMPT TO GIVE THE FOLKS THE USE THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR.
AND THEN ALSO, UM, I MEAN, THE NEIGHBORS ARE RIGHT ON SIDE OF THE, THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SIX FOOT WALL AND THE, THE HOMES ARE ELEVATED.
SO IF THERE'S A WAY TO ADD LANDSCAPING ALONG THAT WALL OR SOME TREES, I, I THINK THAT WOULD GO A LONG WAY TOWARDS THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO THAT'S NOT A QUESTION FOR STAFF, YOU'RE JUST SUGGESTING THAT AS A, SOMETHING FOR US TO CONSIDER? CORRECT.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, I'M GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
HERE WE DO, WE HAVE JUDD MELIN, JOHN HARDY, AND RICK PALMER.
GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
UH, JUDD MULLINIX WITH KINLEY HORN.
IT'S 13,455 NOEL DRIVE IN DALLAS, TEXAS.
AND I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE OWNER AND APPLICANT AND, UH, THE DEVELOPER OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, DO WE HAVE THAT PRESENT? WE DO.
SO, UM, I GOT THE FIRST SLIDE HERE.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE ON YOUR SCREEN, UM, WE HAVE THIS S U P REQUEST ON THE LEFT SIDE THERE.
IT'S APPROXIMATELY 2.7 ACRES, AS MENTIONED BY PARKER.
THIS SITE HAS PREVIOUSLY BEEN A VEHICLE STORAGE DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE VEHICLE OPERATOR THAT WAS OVER TO THE EAST.
UM, THE SAME USE IS BEING PROPOSED HERE.
IS VEHICLE STORAGE DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE NEW OPERATOR THAT'S TO THE EAST.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE BOTTOM LEFT THERE, IT'S GONNA BE A TESLA DEALERSHIP.
SO, UM, 60,000 SQUARE FEET OF SALES, SERVICE AND DELIVERY ON THE, ON
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THE EAST SIDE OF, UH, PREMIERE.THIS IS A BRIEF, UH, LANDSCAPE.
WE, WE, WE HAVE ADDED LANDSCAPING ALL WITHIN THIS PARKING LOT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR THE S U.
SO NONE OF THE EXISTING ISLANDS EXIST THERE TODAY.
IT IS FULLY PAVED, NO LANDSCAPE ISLANDS FOR THE VEHICLES STORAGE.
I DON'T BELIEVE LANDSCAPE ISLANDS ARE REQUIRED, BUT WE ARE ADDING THEM IN ADDITION TO THE TREES AND THE, THE LANDSCAPING THAT'S THERE.
YOU'LL ALSO SEE THAT, UM, PURSUANT TO THE REQUEST OF LANDSCAPING ADJACENT TO THE NEIGHBORS, WE'VE ADDED TREES THERE AS WELL.
UM, SO WE'RE ADDING SOME ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE AND BUFFERING THERE ON THE BACKSIDE, DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO WHERE THOSE NEIGHBORS ARE.
AND THIS IS JUST A FEW, UM, UH, SLIDES OF WHAT THE DEALERSHIP IS GONNA LOOK LIKE.
AND THESE TWO, AS MENTIONED BY PARKER, ARE DIRECTLY TIED TOGETHER.
UM, SO IT'S A, IT'S IT'S USE TO THE, TO THE WEST THAT IT'S SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS, THIS AUTO DEALERSHIP.
SO, UM, ANY QUESTIONS, ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS I CAN ANSWER.
UM, LET'S SEE IF WE HAVE OTHER SPEAKERS AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL CIRCLE BACK.
SO WE DO NOT OTHER THAN THE APPLICANTS.
SO, UM, IF THAT'S IT THEN I THINK WE'LL GO AHEAD AND ASK YOU SOME QUESTIONS IF YOU WANNA COME BACK UP.
SORRY, THAT'S ASSUMING I DON'T SEE ANY BUTTONS LIT UP YET, BUT I'M ASSUMING THEY WILL ANY SECOND NOW OR NOT.
UM, SO, UH, I CAN COUNT ON MR. BRUNO.
I WAS WAITING TO SEE IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTED TO GO WITH THIS.
UM, THERE SEEMS TO BE A LITTLE BOUNDARY DISPUTE AT THE FAR END OF THAT, UH, LITTLE NARROW PASSAGE THAT EXTENDS NORTHWARD MM-HMM.
UM, WHAT IS THE STATUS OF, UH, YOUR DEALINGS WITH THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER TO TRY TO RESOLVE THAT? SO THE CURRENT OWNER OF THE PROPERTY ACTUALLY MET WITH THAT OWNER ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO, AND THEY CURRENTLY ARE AMENABLE TO OUR CURRENT PLAN AND ALSO TO JUST REMOVING THEIR IMPROVEMENTS ENTIRELY.
SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM ON WHAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE.
WE HAVE BOTH OPTIONS ON THE TABLE TO EITHER REPLAT AND TO PUT THE PROPERTY, PUT THEIR ENCUMBRANCES ON THEM SO IT'S NOT IN OUR PROPERTY ANYMORE MM-HMM.
UM, SO IT'S KIND OF, WE'RE GONNA WORK WITH THEM ON WHAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE FOR THEIR OPERATION AND WELL, WHICH IS HAVE YOU REACHED A DECISION AS AS TO WHICH WAY YOU'RE GONNA GO? NOT YET.
UM, WE DID HAVE A WRITTEN OPPOSITION FROM THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER.
HE WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT YOU WERE PLANNING TO HAVE PEOPLE ENCROACH ACROSS HIS PROPERTY FOR, TO, FOR ACCESS TO, TO THIS PROPERTY, SOME SORT OF DRIVEWAY ACROSS HIS PROPERTY.
DO, DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT GOES? I DON'T SEE ANY DRIVEWAYS OTHER THAN THOSE TWO THAT, THAT, UH, END OF THE PROPERTY OFF OF PRE HERE.
PARKER, HOW DO I TAKE IT BACK TO THE PSP? I CAN SHOW YOU WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT RIGHT THERE.
SO IF YOU'LL SEE TO THE TOP RIGHT OF THIS SCREEN, THERE IS, UM, A DRIVE INTERNAL TO THE SITE THAT ANGLES DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH.
AND SO I THINK THE PROPERTY OWNER THAT SENT THAT LETTER IN IS THE OWNER DIRECTLY TO OUR NORTH OF THE LARGE PARCEL, NOT OF THE SMALL SKIING PIECE.
AND SO, UM, THE CITY HAS REQUIRED US TO PROVIDE A ACCESS EASEMENT FOR CROSS ACCESS THERE.
SO WE HAVE PROVIDED THAT CROSS ACCESS EASEMENT TO THE PROPERTY LINE THAT ALIGNS WITH OUR CURRENT FIRE LANE DRIVE, BUT WE HAVE CUT OUR PAVING ABOUT 10 FEET FROM THERE.
SO THERE WILL BE AN ACCESS EASEMENT THERE FOR CROSS ACCESS IN THE FUTURE.
SHOULD THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH WANT TO UTILIZE THAT CROSS ACCESS MM-HMM.
WE'RE NOT BUILDING A DRIVE TO THAT AND WE'RE NOT GONNA ENCROACH ON HIS PROPERTY FOR ANY ACCESS.
HAVE EITHER YOU OR YOUR, OR THE OWNER THAT YOU REPRESENT HAVEN'T HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THE OTHER OWNER ABOUT THAT? NO.
THAT IS A CITY OF PLANO ENGINEERING AND PLANNING REQUIREMENT, SO WE DIDN'T NECESSARILY WANT TO DO IT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS REQUIRED BY THE CITY.
IS THERE ANY OBSTRUCTION TO THAT ACCESS AT THE MOMENT? LIKE, LIKE IMPROVEMENTS ON THE OTHER PROPERTY? I THINK THEY HA THEY CURRENTLY HAVE A PARKING LOT THAT'S OPERATING WITHOUT ANY SORT OF ACCESS HERE.
SO AS IT SITS TODAY, THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO USE IT.
THIS WOULD ONLY BE BENEFICIAL IF A NEW OWNER OR IF THE CURRENT OWNER DECIDED TO RESTRUCTURE THEIR PARKING LOT AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT NEW ACCESS EASEMENT AND THEN ADD A DRIVEWAY TO THEIRS, THEN THEY'D HAVE THE ABILITY TO PUNCH THROUGH THERE AND, AND GAIN ACCESS TO OUR DRIVE CONNECTION.
BUT YOU DO HAVE TWO UNCONTESTED DRIVEWAY ENTRANCES OFF OF PRI PREMIER, DO YOU NOT? CORRECT.
AND YEAH, WE DON'T, WE DON'T NEED THE ACCESS AT ALL.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER ROWLAND.
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UH, ONE QUESTION ALONG THE GOOD NEIGHBOR LINE.UM, ONE OF THE COMMENTS IN OPPOSITION WAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH, UH, AN EROSION ISSUE FOR THIS INDIVIDUAL'S PROPERTY.
ARE YOU AWARE OF THAT? UM, SO WE WERE MADE AWARE OF IT BY THE, UM, THE LETTER THAT WAS BROUGHT UP, UM, I THINK AT THE END OF THE WEEK LAST WEEK.
AND I THINK THE NEIGHBOR IS ON THE SCREEN HERE TO THE TOP LEFT.
SO THERE'S AN EXISTING CITY OF PLANO, 15 FOOT DRAINAGE EASEMENT UP THERE.
SO THE DRAINAGE GOES UP TO A INLET AND THEN IT CUTS AND GOES BACK TO THE WEST.
I THINK THERE'S AN OUTFALL THERE AS WELL.
UM, SO I'VE ALREADY TALKED WITH THE OWNER AND, AND MY CLIENT ABOUT THAT AND WE WILL, UM, WORK WITH ENGINEERING AND STAFF TO CREATE SOME SORT OF IMPROVEMENT THERE.
UM, AS SHOWN ON THE LANDSCAPE, WE ARE REDUCING THE COVER, THE IMPERVIOUS COVER ON THIS SITE, SO WE'RE GONNA BE REDUCING THE FLOW GOING TO THAT POINT.
SO ALREADY MAKING THE SITUATION BETTER THAN IT IS TODAY, BUT WE'LL WORK WITH THEM ON SOME EROSION MEASURES THERE TO, TO HELP IMPROVE THAT AND ENSURE THERE'S NOT ANY FUTURE ISSUES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.
CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, FIND DISCUSSIONS TO THE COMMISSION.
WE APPROVE ITEM THREE A S PRESENTED.
I HAVE A MOTION BY MR. RATLIFF WITH A SECOND BY MR. BRUNO TO APPROVE.
THAT ITEM CARRIES SIX TO ZERO.
NEED A MOTION ON THREE B? OH, BILL, YOU GOING? HEY, EXCUSE ME.
WAS I SUPPOSED TO WALK DOWN WITH HIM TO SAY SOMETHING SINCE MY NAME WAS CALLED OR WAS I WAS WAITING FOR MY NAME TO BE CALLED TO SEE IF I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY.
CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME? RICK PALMER? YES.
DO I NEED TO COME WHEN YOU CALLED OR I, YES, SORRY.
SO WE'VE, WE'VE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING ON, ON THIS, BUT IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING SPECIFIC TO SAY, I I'M THE PROPERTY OWNER TO THE NORTH.
I, I WOULD SAY COME DOWN THEN AND LET'S, LET'S HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY.
I OWN INNOVATIVE AUTOWORKS, WHICH IS A PROPERTY TO THE NORTH OF THEIR STORAGE LOT ON PREMIER DRIVE.
WE SAW IT AS CREST CADILLAC STORAGE LOT.
UH, NOW SEEING WHAT THEY WANT TO DO THERE, I THINK IT IS GREAT.
I THINK WHAT THEY WANT TO DO IS FINE.
THE ONLY QUESTIONS I HAD WAS ON THE DRIVEWAY.
I DIDN'T SEE, OR THE PICTURE THAT YOU HAVE IS VERY SMALL COMPARED TO THE PRINTOUT OFF OF THE PLANO WEBSITE WHERE IT LOOKS LIKE THEY WANNA MOVE THEIR DRIVEWAYS DOWN CLOSE TO MY DRIVEWAY.
UH, AND THEN THAT PROPOSED DRIVEWAY CONNECTION WAS ANOTHER QUESTION AND I THINK HE ANSWERED VERY WELL.
UH, SO THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD QUESTION NOW IS THE ENTRANCE TO THAT PROPERTY IS NOW CLOSE TO THE MIDDLE OF THE PROPERTY.
IT DOESN'T IMPEDE OR GET IN THE WAY OF ANYTHING.
AND I SEE IN THE PICTURE THAT THEY WANT TO BRING IT DOWN CLOSE TO MY DRIVEWAY.
UH, WE ONLY HOUSE ABOUT 20 CARS IN THE FRONT OF THE LOT.
WE STAY ABOUT 10 CARS BEHIND DURING THE DAY.
SO WE HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC IN AND OUT.
SOMETIMES WE NEED THE WRECKERS TO STOP OUT FRONT AND DROP OFF CARS SO WE CAN GET 'EM IN THE PARKING LOT.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE VERY CLOSE TO BEING ABLE TO GET A WRECKER BETWEEN THEIR NEW PROPOSED ENTRYWAY AND OUR DRIVEWAY.
I, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING YOU PROBABLY WANNA WORK THROUGH WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER.
UM, TYPICALLY WE DON'T USE THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, LO LOADING, UNLOADING WITH WRECKER SERVICES.
I, I KNOW THAT'S A VERY ACTIVE STREET FOR AUTO USES, SO I'M, I'M SURE THAT'S WHAT YOU'VE DONE FOR A WHILE.
SO, UH, JUST BE AWARE, UM, IF IT'S POSSIBLE FOR YOU TO TAKE THAT OFF STREET.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE CITY WOULD ASK YOU TO DO.
UM, AND THERE ARE CHALLENGES WITH DOING THAT IN THE STREET AND, YOU KNOW, THE DRIVEWAY AS PROPOSED DOES MEET THE CITY'S STANDARDS.
SO THERE'S A MINIMUM DIMENSION BETWEEN THEIR DRIVEWAY AND YOURS.
IT DOES MEET THE CITY'S REQUIREMENTS.
SO I JUST WANT TO CAUTION YOU ABOUT DOING THOSE OPERATIONS IN THE STREET.
YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN VERY GOOD TO US SINCE WE'VE BEEN HERE.
IT WAS JUST A CONCERN THAT, UH, WE MIGHT HAVE PROBLEM WITH SOMEBODY WANTING TO GET IN, WANTING TO GET OUT EVEN OF THEIR PROPERTY ALSO
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WHERE MAY HAVE TO WAIT TO, TO, UH, INCONVENIENCE OF AN UNLOADING OR LOADING.UH, SO THAT, THAT'S ALL I WAS.
I I, I TOOK YOUR LETTER TO MEAN THAT YOU WERE WORRIED THAT UNLOADING AND LOADING WAS GONNA BLOCK YOUR DRIVEWAY.
IT SOUNDS LIKE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT YOU'RE WORRIED THAT THEIR DRIVEWAY IS GONNA PREVENT YOU FROM BEING ABLE TO LOAD OR UNLOAD IN THE STREET.
COULD BE FOR THEM TOO, IF THEY HAVE CARS CUZ THEY CREST HAS BEEN THERE FOR YEARS.
UH, AND THAT IS WHERE THEY PARKED THEIR, UH, BIG UNLOADING TRUCKS ON THE STREET AND THEN THEY MOVED YES.
ON THE STREET AND THEN MOVED THEM INTO THE LOT, UH, WHICH MAKES THE DRIVEWAY WHERE IT IS NOW.
VERY NICE BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING, PLENTY OF ROOM ACROSS THE STREET FROM IT.
CREST BODY SHOP ALSO HAS A DRIVEWAY ENTRY THAT THEY DON'T USE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM WHERE THIS ONE'S PROPOSED ALSO.
I GUESS I SHOULD ASK, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM I HAD CALLED JOHN HARDY? SORRY, I, I REGISTERED AS A SPEAKER, BUT I WAS MEANING TO JUST ANSWER QUESTIONS IF THERE WERE ANY.
OKAY, SO WE'RE BACK TO ITEM THREE B.
I WILL, WE APPROVE ITEM THREE B UH, SUBMITTED.
SO I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER OLLIE WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RATLIFF TO APPROVE ITEM THREE B AS SUBMITTED.
AND SHE DIDN'T CATCH MY VOTE, BUT IT WOULD BE APPROVED AS WELL.
DO WE NEED TO MODIFY THAT SUBJECT TO COUNCIL APPROVING ZONING CASE THREE A OR THE OTHER THAT WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE? I AGREE.
SO WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA REDO THIS SO THAT WE GET IT RIGHT.
WE APPROVE ITEM THREE B, SUBJECT TO COUNCIL, CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF ZONING CASE 23 DASH 0 0 8.
SECOND, I'LL TAKE MR. LYLE'S APPROVE AS A SECOND, ALTHOUGH I GUESS I HEARD MR. BRUNO SAY SECOND.
SO, MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ALI.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BRUNO TO APPROVE ITEM THREE B, PLEASE VOTE.
A LITTLE MORE STRAIGHTFORWARD, MOVE APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED OF ITEM THREE C.
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RATLIFF.
WE'LL TRY TO GET ON A ROLL HERE, FOLKS.
[4. (MK) Public Hearing: Zoning Case 2023-010 - Request to amend the zoning ordinance regarding adopting a broadly applicable process for making determinations of status as a nonconforming use or structure and for appealing those determinations. Project #ZC2023-010. Petitioner: City of Plano (Legislative consideration)]
ITEM FOUR, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR, PUBLIC HEARING.ZONING CASE 2023 DASH ZERO 10.
REQUEST TO AMEND THE ZONING ORDINANCE REGARDING ADOPTING A BROADLY APPLICABLE PROCESS FOR MAKING DETERMINATIONS OF STATUS AS A NON-CONFORMING USE OR STRUCTURE, AND FOR APPEALING THOSE DETERMINATIONS.
THIS IS FOR LEGISLATIVE CONSIDERATION.
I'M MELISSA KLEIN, LEAD PLANNER WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
SO THIS IS A REQUEST TO AMEND THE ZONING ORDINANCE REGARDING DETERMINATIONS OF NONCONFORMITIES.
THE COMMISSION CALLED A PUBLIC HEARING ON MAY 15TH, 2023 TO CONSIDER AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE REGARDING ADOPTING A BROADLY APPLICABLE PROCESS FOR MAKING DETERMINATIONS OF STATUS AS A NONCONFORMING USE OR STRUCTURE AND FOR APPEALING SUCH DETERMINATIONS.
THIS REQUEST RESULTS FROM CHANGES TO STATE LAW, WHICH DEFINE THESE FORMAL PROCESSES.
PLANOS CURRENT REGULATIONS FOR NONCONFORMITIES SPECIFY THREE INSTANCES IN WHICH A NONCONFORMITY SHALL EXIST.
HOWEVER, THERE IS NO DEFINED PROCESS FOR STAFF TO REVIEW AND DETERMINE THAT ONE OF THESE INSTANCES APPLIES TO A USE OR STRUCTURE.
TYPICAL CURRENT PRACTICE IS FOR STAFF TO RESEARCH THE HISTORY OF A SITE, INCLUDING SITE PLANS AND CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY.
ADDITIONALLY, AN APPLICANT MAY ALSO BE REQUESTED TO PROVIDE RECORDS OF OPERATION ON SITE.
CHANGES TO STATE LAW, SPECIFICALLY SENATE BILL 9 29, HAVE PROVIDED A FRAMEWORK FOR A MORE STANDARDIZED PROCESS FOR DETERMINING NONCONFORMITIES, THE MUNICIPALITY MUST NOW PROVIDE A FORMAL DETERMINATION OF NON-CONFORMING STATUS.
IF AN APPLICANT DISAGREES WITH THE DETERMINATION, THE APPLICANT MAY APPEAL THE DECISION TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.
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CHANGES ESTABLISHED THE CURRENT TYPICAL PRACTICE FOR DETERMINING A NON-CONFORMING USE OR STRUCTURE INTO A FORMAL PROCESS, AS WELL AS ALLOW THIS DETERMINATION TO BE APPEALED TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.AND COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW STAFF IS ALSO PROPOSING NEW LANGUAGE TO BE ADDED TO THE ZONING ORDINANCES, BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT APPEALS SECTION TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE LANGUAGE AND TIMEFRAMES ESTABLISHED IN CHAPTER TWO 11 OF TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.
THE PROPOSED REQUEST IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES LAND USE ACTION ONE AND PROPERTY STANDARDS ACTION NINE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS THESE AMENDMENTS ARE IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND WILL CREATE A CLEAR STANDARDIZED PROCESS FOR BOTH STAFF AND APPLICANTS TO FOLLOW.
STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THIS FOR APPROVAL AS SHOWN BY THE STRIKE THROUGH AN UNDERLYING TEXT IN THE STAFF REPORT.
AND THERE WERE NO RESPONSES RECEIVED FOR THIS ITEM.
AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I'M GONNA LET OUR WONDERFUL ATTORNEY GIVE US JUST A SLIGHT CORRECTION.
SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT, THAT THE 9 29 CONNECTION HERE IS THAT 9 29 MAKES IT.
SO WE HAVE A SPECIFIC PROCESS FOR TERMINATING NONCONFORMING USES.
UM, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE HAVE TO DO THIS NOW IS BECAUSE WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS SHORT-TERM RENTAL REGISTRATION AND WE HAVE AN INTERIM BAN ON SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
BECAUSE OF THAT, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO DETERMINE WHO'S IN NON-CONFORMING USE AND SET UP A PROCESS FOR THEM TO APPEAL.
SO, ALTHOUGH WE'RE GONNA BE COMING BACK LATER WITH 9 29 CORRECTIONS TO THESE ORDINANCES, THIS IS PRIMARILY ABOUT JUST BEING ABLE TO DETERMINE WHAT'S NONCONFORMING.
UM, IT'S BROADER THAN SHORT TERM RENTALS, BUT IT ISN'T QUITE AS TIED TO 9 29.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT QUICK CORRECTION.
AND IT'S COMMON FOR THOSE THAT HAVEN'T BEEN ON THE COMMISSION, UM, LONG ENOUGH TO HAVE EXPERIENCED IT.
EVERY TWO YEARS THE LEGISLATION MEETS AND THEY PASS BILLS, LAWS, WHATEVER, AND THEN WE HAVE TO UPDATE OUR ORDINANCES TO COMPLY.
SO THIS IS THE FRONT END OF PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT OF A TRICKLE OF ADOPTION OF CHANGES WE MAY HAVE TO MAKE TO OUR ORDINANCE TO COMPLY WITH STATE LAW.
UH, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM.
I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? NO, WE DO NOT.
I WILL CAUSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. BRUNO.
UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS A NECESSARY PROCESS.
IT ALSO AFFORDS, UH, BOTH THE CITY, THE CITY AND PROPERTY OWNERS WITH THE, WITH THE DUE PROCESS TO MAKE DETERMINATIONS, AND THEREFORE, I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE, I'M, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER FOUR, UH, SECOND THE MOTION.
I THINK WE, UH, CITIZENRY DEVELOPERS AND WHOEVER WANTS TO LEAVE WORK OR PLAY AND PLAN OR DESERVES CLARITY ON FROM A PROCESS PERSPEC PERSPECTIVE.
SO I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BRUNO.
OH, COMMISSIONER KERRY, YOU HAVE A COMMENT? I, I, I HAVE A QUESTION.
UM, ON, UM, FIVE POINT 200.1, UM, THIS TALKS ABOUT WHO HAS THE FINAL DECISION MAKING AUTHORITY, AND I, I'M JUST CURIOUS WHO THAT ACTUALLY IS.
UM, IF WE COULD GET A LITTLE CLARITY AROUND THAT JUST AS WE LOOK AT WHAT THIS PROCESS IS GONNA BE.
SO WHO WILL THAT BE? BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO STIPULATE THAT ONE PERSON WOULD BE MAKING THESE DECISIONS.
AM I READING THAT CORRECTLY? SORRY.
SO, FIVE POINT, IT'S ON PAGE THREE OF FIVE.
SO THAT'S WHERE IT DEFINES THE ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER.
SO THE ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER, I THINK THE, THE LANGUAGE USED TO BE, UM, JUST THE BUILDING OFFICIAL AND THIS BROADENS IT TO ALSO INCLUDE THE PLANNING DIRECTOR, UM, IN, IN THE CASE OF NONCONFORMITIES, BUT, OR, OR DESIGNEE, UM, AS APPROPRIATE.
SO IT MAY VARY BASED ON, UM, WHAT TYPE OF APPEAL IS BEING REQUESTED.
I WAS JUST CURIOUS HOW NARROW THAT DECISION MAKING MAY BE AND WHAT, WHAT THAT MIGHT CREATE FOR US.
MR. LAW, I JUST WANTED TO ASK STAFF, OR I'M NOT SURE WHO TO ADDRESS THE QUESTION TOO.
WE'LL JUST SAY STAFF FOR NOW AND THEN MICHELLE NEEDS TO ANSWER.
BUT LET'S SAY THAT THERE'S A CITY INITIATED ZONING
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THAT MAKES SPECIFIC USES NON-CONFORMING.IS THIS A SITUATION WHERE SOMEONE LIKE THE, THE, THE CITY WOULD COME IN AND SUNDOWN THE USE AND SAY, YOU NEED TO STOP AND, AND GIVE UP YOUR LAND RIGHTS.
SO ACTUALLY YOU'RE KIND OF JUMPING AHEAD TO WHAT'S GONNA COME SECOND IN A, IN A DIFFERENT ORDINANCE.
I THINK YOU CALLED IT A SUNDOWN PROCESS.
WE USUALLY CALL IT AN AMORTIZATION SUNSET.
THAT'S GONNA COME IN ANOTHER CHANGE TO SOME OF THESE SAME SECTIONS, AND WE'LL DO THAT.
WE'LL BRING THAT TO YOU LATER WITH ALL A BUNCH OF OTHER LEGISLATIVE REQUIRED CHANGES.
WE SPLIT IT INTO TWO BECAUSE THIS ONE, THIS CHANGE AROSE OUT OF THE, THE NEED TO DEAL WITH NONCONFORMING USES FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS.
AND FROM YOUR COMMENTS EARLIER, I UNDERSTAND THIS TO CREATE A CONSISTENT PROCESS, BUT IS THERE A CONSISTENT PROCESS ON HOW THESE USES WOULD BE AMORTIZED OR IS THAT GONNA JUST BE UP TO THE OFFICIALS THAT ARE NAMED AS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING THE DETERMINATION? UM, 9 29 REQUIRES A CONSISTENT PROCESS AND SPELLS OUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IN, IN QUITE A BIT OF DETAIL HOW THAT PROCESS WORKS.
AND WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT PROCESS IN OUR ORDINANCE AT ALL.
UM, SO IT'S GONNA BE ALL NEW LANGUAGE.
AND HOW WILL THIS AFFECT NON-CONFORMING USES THAT EXIST BEFORE WE MAKE ALL THESE CHANGES? SO NONCONFORMING USES, NOW, THERE WAS NO PROCESS SPELLED OUT TO GET A FORMAL DETERMINATION.
SO PEOPLE COULD ASK THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT COULD GIVE THEM AN OPINION, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE THE FORMAL PROCESS THAT SAID, OKAY, UM, FIRST YOU CHECK WITH THESE PEOPLE, THEN YOU GO TO THE PLANNING DIRECTOR, AND THEN IF YOU DON'T LIKE THAT, YOU GO TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS.
SO NOW WE HAVE A FULL ROBUST PROCESS WITH APPEALS AND, AND ALL OF THAT.
WHEREAS BEFORE IT WOULD'VE JUST BEEN INFORMAL, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENT TO DETERMINE WHETHER YOU HAD A NON-CONFORMING USE OR NOT, BUT THIS SHOULDN'T REALLY AFFECT THE OUTCOME.
IT'S NOT, IT, IT DOESN'T CHANGE ANYBODY'S CURRENT NON-CONFORMING USES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
IT JUST GIVES THEM A PROCESS TO FIGURE OUT HOW, WHETHER THEIR PROPERTY IS NON-CONFORMING OR NOT.
WELL, I CAN THINK OF NON-CONFORMING USES THAT EXIST TODAY.
ARE THEY NOW GONNA BE SUBJECT TO THIS NEW LEGISLATION OR ARE THEY SOMEHOW EXEMPTED EVEN BY THE NON-CONFORMING LANGUAGE? BECAUSE WHEN THEY BECAME NON-CONFORMING, NONE OF THIS LANGUAGE EXISTED AT ALL.
IT, IT WON'T CHANGE ANYBODY'S STATUS.
YOU, YOU WERE EITHER NON-CONFORMING BEFORE OR YOU WEREN'T NONCONFORMING.
THIS JUST SENDS THE PROCESS GOING FORWARD THAT THE CITY WILL USE ANY TIME SOMEBODY ASKS IF THEY'RE NONCONFORMING OR IF WE GO THROUGH AN ENFORCEMENT PROCEDURE AND THEY RAISE THE DEFENSE OF NON-CONFORMING USE, UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND WANT TO GO THROUGH AN ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS.
BUT THERE'S, THERE'S NOTHING ABOUT IT THAT CHANGES ANYBODY'S SITUATION, LEGAL STATUS AT ALL.
BUT MY UNDERSTANDING TODAY IS THAT IF YOU HAVE A USE ON A PROPERTY AND YOU ESTABLISH THAT USE LEGALLY AND THEN FOR WHATEVER REASON THE ZONING CHANGED AND YOU BECOME A NON-CONFORMING USE, YOU HAVE RIGHTS IN PERPETUITY AS LONG AS YOU DON'T CEASE THAT USE.
DOES THIS SOMEHOW GIVE THE CITY A WAY TO COME IN AND SAY, YOU'VE BEEN NONCONFORMING FOR FIVE YEARS AND WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU ANOTHER TWO YEARS AND THEN YOU NEED TO BE DONE? NO, BUT NO, THIS LANGUAGE WILL NOT DO THAT.
THIS LANGUAGE DOES NOT HAVE ANYTHING ABOUT AMORTIZATION OR, UM, SUNSETTING IN IT.
9 29 HAS LANGUAGE ABOUT THAT THAT WE'RE GONNA BE ADDRESSING IN A FUTURE ORDINANCE, BUT WE'LL BE DOING IT ONLY AS REQUIRED BY STATUTE.
THE CITY WON'T BE IMPOSING ANYTHING THAT THE STATE HASN'T ALREADY IMPOSED.
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I BELIEVE WE HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND AND A SECOND.AND WAS THAT CAPTURED APPROPRIATELY? OKAY.
THAT ITEM CARRIES SIX ZERO ITEM FIVE.
[5. (KC) Public Hearing - Replat: American First National Bank Addition, Block A, Lot 1 - Bank on one lot on 1.0 acre located on the east side of K Avenue, 124 feet north of 19th Street. Zoned Planned Development-26-Light Commercial. Project #R2023-005. Applicant: American First National Bank (Administrative consideration)]
ITEM NUMBER FIVE, PUBLIC HEARING RELA AMERICAN FIRST NATIONAL BANK EDITION BLOCK A LOT.ONE BANK ON ONE LOT ON 1.0 ACRE, LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF KAY AVENUE, 124 FEET NORTH OF 19TH STREET ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT 26 LIGHT COMMERCIAL APPLICANT IS AMERICAN FIRST NATIONAL BANK.
THIS IS FOR ADMINISTRATIVE CONSIDERATION.
CAN YOU CHANGE THE SLIDE TO SLIDE 1 0 4 PLEASE? THANK YOU.
THIS REPLA IS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ITEM? NO.
WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS RELA? THIS RELA IS DEDICATING RIGHT OF WAY ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY ADJACENT TO KAY AVENUE, DEDICATING IT TO WHO? DEDICATING TO THE CITY.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NONE.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? UH, THE APPLICANT IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? SEEING NONE ON CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.
COMMISSIONER KERRY, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE A SUBMITTED SECOND.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CAREY WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RATLIFF TO APPROVE.
THERE'S STILL A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE IN HERE.
[6. (KC) Public Hearing - Replat & Revised Site Plan: Plano Chisolm Addition, Block A, Lots 1 & 2 - Professional/general administrative office on Lot 1 and restaurant, retail, and medical office on Lot 2 on 4.3 acres located on the south side of Chisholm Place, 205 feet west of U.S. Highway 75. Zoned Corridor Commercial with Specific Use Permits No. 187 for Restaurant and No. 324 for Private Club. Projects #R2023-013 and #RSP2023-018. Applicant: Rig Chisolm Place, LLC and Elam Town Homes, LLC (Administrative consideration)]
ITEM NUMBER SIX, PUBLIC HEARING RELA AND REVISED SITE PLAN.PLANO CHISHOLM EDITION BLOCK, A LOTS ONE AND TWO.
PROFESSIONAL GENERAL ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE ON LOT ONE AND RESTAURANT RETAIL AND MEDICAL OFFICE ON LOT TWO ON 4.3 ACRES LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF CHISHOLM PLACE, 205 FEET WEST OF US, HIGHWAY 75 ZONE CORRIDOR COMM COMMERCIAL WITH SPECIFIC USE PERMITS NUMBER 180 7 FOR RESTAURANT.
AND NUMBER 3 24 FOR PRIVATE CLUB.
APPLICANT IS RIGGED CHISHOLM PLACE, L L C AND ELAM TOWNHOME L L C.
THIS IS FOR ADMINISTRATIVE CONSIDERATION, BOTH THE REVISED SITE PLAN AND THE REPLANT ARE RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED.
AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER KERRY, WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE PRIVATE CLUB HERE? PRIVATE CLUB IS ALSO KNOWN AS A BAR UHHUH.
IT SAYS THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN, IN, UH, AN APPROXIMATE FLOOD ZONE.
AM I READING THAT CORRECTLY? ARE WE PAVING OVER PARTS OF THE FLOOD ZONE FOR THE PARKING? THERE IS, UM, FLOOD ZONE ON THE SOUTH PORTION OF LOT ONE.
THAT'S QUITE A WAYS AWAY FROM, FROM, THERE'S NO PARKING PROPOSED THERE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, THANK YOU.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? NO, WE DO NOT.
I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING COMMISSION.
WE APPROVE ITEM, UM, SIX SIX INCLUDING THE IN THE REVISED SITE PLAN AS SUBMITTED.
TO APPROVE ITEM SIX AS SUBMITTED, PLEASE VOTE.
COMMISSIONER LA APPROVED SIX ZERO.
[7. (KC) Public Hearing - Replat: West Park Preston Addition, Block A, Lot 3R - Bank and retail on one lot on 2.2 acres located at the northwest corner of Preston Road and Park Boulevard. Zoned Planned Development-68-Retail and located within the Preston Road Overlay District. Project #R2023-027. Applicant: MC West Park, LLC (Administrative consideration)]
AGENDA.ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS A RELA WEST PARK PRESTON EDITION BLOCK, A LIGHT THREE R BANK AND RETAIL ON ONE LOT ON 2.2 ACRES LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF PRESTON ROAD AND PARK BOULEVARD ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT 68 RETAIL AND LOCATED WITHIN THE PRESTON ROAD OVERLAY DISTRICT, APPLICANT IS MC WEST PARK, L L C.
THIS IS FOR ADMINISTRATIVE CONSIDERATION.
THIS REPLAT IS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
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ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT, SEEING NONE, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? UH, THE APPLICANT IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION.
DOES COMMISSION HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? SEEING NONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, FIND DISCUSSION TO THE COMMISSION.
WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN AS SUBMITTED.
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RATLIFF WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ALI TO APPROVE ITEM SEVEN AS SUBMITTED, PLEASE VOTE APPROVED.
AND THAT ITEM CARRIES SIX TO ZERO ITEM EIGHT, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER
[8. (RP) Public Hearing - Replats & Revised Site Plan: Willow Bend Polo Estates Phase B, Block B, Lots 6R, 11R, & 14R - Three Patio Home lots on 0.4 acre located on the west side of Old Westbury Lane, 435 feet north of Turtle Creek Drive. Zoned Planned Development-423-Patio Home. Projects #R2023-024, #R2023-023, #R2023-022, and #RSP2023-043. Applicant: Shaddock WBP Plano, LLC (Administrative consideration)]
EIGHT, PUBLIC HEARING RELAS AND REVISED SITE PLAN.WILLOW BEND POLO ESTATES PHASE B, BLOCK B LOT SIX R 11 R AND 14 R THREE PATIO HOME LOTS ON 0.4 ACRE, LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF OLD WESTBURY LANE, 435 FEET NORTH OF TURTLE CREEK DRIVE ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT 4 23 PATIO HOME APPLICANT IS SHADA, W B P PLANO, L L C.
THIS IS FOR ADMINISTRATIVE CONSIDERATION.
I'M RAW PILATE, THE PLANNER WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT STAFF RECRUITMENTS APPROVAL OF, UH, THREE RELAS AND ONE REVISED SITE PLAN.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER RALEIGH.
YEAH, SO THIS HAS BEEN INTERESTING SINCE THIS ONE KEEPS SURFACING.
UM, WHAT, WHAT'S THE REASON FOR THE CHANGES HERE? BECAUSE AGAIN, WE'VE HAD SOME, UH, CITIZENS DOWN ON THE SOUTH END OF THIS THAT HAVE BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT, UH, FLOODING.
SO I'M CURIOUS WHAT, WHAT THIS RELAS ABOUT.
UM, SO THE, UM, ZONING FOR THIS AREA, UM, ALLOWS THE, UM, BUILDING SETBACK TO BE MODIFIED, UM, IF THE, UH, TOTAL AREA, UM, OF THE SETBACK REMAINS THE SAME IN SO LONG AS THEY MAINTAIN THE MINIMUM 10 FOOT, UH, FRONT YARD SETBACK AS WELL.
UM, THE, UH, BUILDERS ARE PROPOSING A UNIQUE, UM, BUILDING LAYOUT THAT HAS MIDDLE COURTYARD ESSENTIALLY.
SO INSTEAD OF HAVING, UH, A 20 FOOT, UH, FRONT YARD SETBACK, THEY'RE ALLOWED TO GO UP TO A 10 FOOT, UH, FRONT YARD SETBACK, BUT THEY'RE ADDING A SETBACK TO THE REAR AND TO THE SITE.
COMMISSIONER LEY? NOPE, WE'RE GOOD.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THANK YOU.
YOU HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? NO, WE DO NOT.
I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WE APPROVE, UH, ITEM EIGHT, INCLUDING RELA AND REVISED SITE PLAN AS SUBMITTED MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BRUNHOFF OF THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ALI TO APPROVE ITEM EIGHT AS SUBMITTED, PLEASE VOTE APPROVED.
APPRECIATE YOU BEING QUICK THERE.
BILL, YOU'RE YOU'RE READY TO MOVE ON? I CAN TELL.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE, PUBLIC
[9. (DS) Public Hearing - Replat: St. Andrew Addition, Block 1, Lot 2R - Religious facility on one lot on 21.2 acres located at the northwest corner of Plano Parkway and Mira Vista Boulevard. Zoned Planned Development-52-Single-Family Residence-7. Project #R2023-025. Applicant: St. Andrews United Methodist Church (Administrative consideration)]
HEARING REPLAT ST.ANDREW EDITION BLOCK ONE LOT TWO R RELIGIOUS FACILITY ON ONE LOT ON 21.2 ACRES LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF PLANO PARKWAY AND MERA VISTA B BOULEVARD ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT 52.
SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE SEVEN.
ANDREWS UNITED METHODIST CHURCH.
THIS IS FOR ADMINISTRATIVE CONSIDERATION.
MS. BRIDGES STAFF AFRICAN RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REPLY AS SUBMITTED.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, THANK YOU.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? UH, WE DO.
UH, WE HAVE THE APPLICANT AND THE, UH, APPLICANT RE REPRESENTATIVE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING THE MOTION.
WE APPROVE ITEM NINE AS SUBMITTED SECOND.
SO I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RATLIFF WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER KERRY TO APPROVE.
THAT ITEM CARRIES SIX TO ZERO ITEM
[10. (KC) Public Hearing - Preliminary Replat & Revised Site Plan: Alcatel USA Addition, Block A, Lot 6R - Professional/general administrative office located on one lot on 18.7 acres located at the northwest corner of Independence Parkway and Lotus Drive. Zoned Planned Development-381-Retail/General Office and located within the 190 Tollway/Plano Parkway Overlay District. Projects #PR2022-013 and #RSP2022-025. Applicant: Independence Plano BTS, LLC (Administrative consideration)]
10 AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10, PUBLIC HEARING PRELIMINARY RELAID AND REVISED SITE PLAN, ALCATEL USA EDITION BLOCK A LOT SIX R PROFESSIONAL GENERAL ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE LOCATED ON ONE LOT ON 18.7 ACRES LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF INDEPENDENCE PARKWAY AND LOTUS DRIVE ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT 3 81 RETAIL GENERAL OFFICE AND[02:25:01]
LOCATED WITHIN THE ONE 90 TOLLWAY PLANO PARKWAY OVERLAY DISTRICT.APPLICANT IS INDEPENDENT PLANO, BTS, L L C.
THIS IS FOR ADMINISTRATIVE CONSIDERATION.
THE PRELIMINARY RELA IS RECOMMENDED, UH, FOR APPROVAL SUBJECT TO ADDITIONS AND OR ALTERATIONS AS REQUIRED BY THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
AND THE REVISED SITE PLAN IS RECOMMENDED AS, UH, FOR APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE.
DO WE HAVE SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? NO, WE DO NOT.
I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, CONFINED DISCUSSION WITH THE COMMISSION.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10, PRELIM PRELIMINARY REPLY, SUBJECT TO ADDITIONS AND OR ALTERATIONS TO THE ENGINEERING PLANS AS REQUIRED BY THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND ALSO THE REVISED SITE PLAN.
UH, RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED.
SO I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ALI WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RATLIFF TO APPROVE ITEM 10 BASED ON STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, PLEASE VOTE.
APPROVE THAT ITEM CARRIES SIX APPROVE.
THANK YOU MR. THAT ITEM CARRIES SIX TO ZERO.
UH, YOU GUYS DREW THE UNLUCKY NUMBER I GUESS ARE YOU 12.
[11. (PM) Public Hearing - Preliminary Replat & Revised Site Plan: Huffines Plano Properties Addition, Block 1, Lots 1-3 - New and used vehicle dealer on three lots on 10.9 acres located at the northwest corner of Plano Parkway and Coit Road. Zoned Light Industrial-1 and located within the 190 Tollway/Plano Parkway Overlay District. Projects #PR2023-007 and #RSP2023-023. Applicant: Huffines Plano Properties, LP (Administrative consideration)]
ITEM NUMBER 11, PUBLIC HEARING, PRELIMINARY REPLANT AND REVISED SITE PLAN.HUFF FINDS PLANO PROPERTIES ADDITION BLOCK ONE LOTS ONE THROUGH THREE NEW AND USED VEHICLE DEALER ON THREE LOTS ON 10.9 ACRES LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF PLANO PARKWAY AND COY ROAD ZONED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ONE AND LOCATED WITHIN THE ONE 90 TOLLWAY PLANO PARKWAY OVERLAY DISTRICT.
APPLICANT IS HUMP H FINES, PLANO PROPERTIES, LP.
THIS IS FOR ADMINISTRATIVE CONSIDERATION.
STAFF RECOMMENDS THE PRELIMINARY RELA FOR APPROVAL SUBJECT TO ADDITION TO ENTER ALTERATIONS TO THE ENGINEERING PLANS AS REQUIRED BY THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
AND THE REVISED SITE PLAN IS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ITEM? I DO.
MR. KERRY, I I'M CURIOUS, UH, WHY THEY'RE DIVIDING THE LOT IN ONE THIRD.
PARDON? CAN YOU REPEAT? I'M SORRY.
UM, WHY ARE THEY DIVIDING THE LOT? UH, BECAUSE LOT TWO, UM, AS SHOWN ON THEIR VIS SITE PLAN IS GOING TO BE A NEW PROPOSED, UH, DEALERSHIP.
SO THAT BUILDING IS NOT EXISTING TODAY.
IT IS GONNA BE CREATED BY THE REISE SIDE PLAN.
MR. ROW QUESTION ALSO ON LOT TWO, THE PARKING AND ACCESS EASEMENT.
WHY DID WE PUT AN ACCESS EASEMENT THERE OR EASEMENT THERE INSTEAD OF JUST REVISING THE LOT LINE? UM, THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S UM, IT HOW IT WAS PREVIOUSLY.
SO THERE, IT USED, IT WAS EXISTING AS THAT KIND OF, UH, PARKING AND ACCESS EASEMENT.
THEY'RE CHANGING IT TO FIT THE NEW BUILDING.
UM, BUT IT'S USED BY THE OTHER LOTS AND THEY DON'T WANT TO INCLUDE THAT IN THE NEW LOT.
SO THAT'S BEING ABANDONED BY THIS PLAT, UH, PARTIALLY ABANDONED.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THIS ON THE SCREEN, YOU CAN SEE WHAT'S BEING ABANDONED AND THEN WHAT'S NOW GONNA REPLACE IT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY, THANK YOU.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? NO, WE DO NOT.
I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING PERMISSION.
WHAT AGENDA ITEM ARE WE ON? NUMBER 11,
OKAY, SO I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HOLLY WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BRUNO TO APPROVE ITEM 11 AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.
THAT ITEM CARRIES SIX TO ZERO.
OKAY GUYS, YOU DIDN'T QUITE WIN THE LOTTERY, BUT HERE
[12. (DS) Public Hearing - Preliminary Replat: Legacy Corporate Center, Block A, Lot 7R - Medical office on one lot on 1.9 acres located on the east side of Preston Road, 878 feet north of Legacy Drive. Zoned General Office and located within the Preston Road Overlay District. Project #PR2023-015. Applicant: Scherer I, Ltd. (Administrative consideration)]
WE GO.ITEM NUMBER 12,
PRELIMINARY RELA LEGACY CORPORATE CENTER BLOCK A LOT SEVEN R MEDICAL OFFICE ON ONE LOT ON 1.9 ACRES LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF PRESTON ROAD.
878 FEET NORTH OF LEGACY DRIVE ZONE GENERAL OFFICE AND LOCATED WITHIN THE PRESTON ROAD OVERLAY DISTRICT, APPLICANT IS SCHREYER ONE.
LIMITED ADMINISTRATIVE CONSIDERATION.
I PROMISE THIS IS THE LAST ITEM.
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ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
SHE'S GOING, PLEASE GOD LET THERE BE NO QUESTIONS.
THE EASEMENT IS MAINLY FOR WATER OR IS THERE A DIFFERENT PURPOSE FOR THE EASEMENT? I BELIEVE, UH, THEY'RE PROPOSING A MEDICAL OFFICE ON THIS PROPERTY AND THIS IS, UH, A PLAT FOR THAT PROPERTY'S EASEMENT.
SO TWO WATER EASEMENTS, RIGHT? CONSERVATION AREA.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS SIDE? THE APPLICANT IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION.
DO WE HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT? OH, MR. BRUNO? NO, I'LL BET THE ONE THING THE APPLICANT DOES NOT WANT TO HEAR AT THIS POINT IS A MOTION TO, TO POSTPONE THIS MIGHT HAVE
SO YOU DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION? NO.
I DO HAVE A MOTION, HOWEVER, TO APPROVE THIS.
WELL, BUT LET ME OPEN, LET ME
COMMISSIONER BRUNO, I MAKE A MOTION.
WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 12, UM, SUBJECT TO ADDITIONS AND OR ALTERATIONS TO THE ENGINEERING PLAN THAT IS REQUIRED BY THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND I WILL SECOND.
ALL RIGHT, SO WE HAVE THANKFULLY A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BRUNO WITH US, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER KERRY TO APPROVE ITEM 12 BASED ON STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
OKAY, THAT ITEM CARRIES SIX TO ZERO.
YOU'RE GONNA HANG OUT FOR A WHILE LONGER JUST TO SEE THEY TURNED THE LIGHTS OFF IN ABOUT FIVE MINUTES, SO I'M JUST SAYING SHE'S PRETTY COMFORTABLE.
ITEM 13, ITEM FOR FUTURE AGENDAS.
DOES ANYBODY WANT TO STRETCH OUT A FUTURE MEETING BY ADDING ANOTHER TOPIC,