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I NOW CALL THE JULY 17TH MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION

[CALL TO ORDER]

TO ORDER.

PLEASE RISE AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST.

THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING IS TO ALLOW UP TO THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER WITH 30 TOTAL MINUTES ON ITEMS OF INTEREST OR CONCERN AND NOT ON ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE CURRENT AGENDA.

THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MAY NOT DISCUSS THESE ITEMS, BUT MAY RESPOND WITH FACTUAL OR POLICY INFORMATION.

THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA.

PRESIDING OFFICER MAY MODIFY THESE TIMES AS DEEMED NECESSARY.

THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? NO, WE DO NOT.

THANK YOU.

MOVE TO CONSENT, PLEASE.

CONSENT.

AGENDA, THE

[CONSENT AGENDA]

CONSENT AGENDA AGENDA WILL BE ACTED UPON IN ONE MOTION AND CONTAINS ITEMS WHICH ARE ROUTINE AND TYPICALLY NON-CONTROVERSIAL ITEMS MAY BE REMOVED FROM THIS AGENDA FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION BY COMMISSIONERS OR STAFF.

THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSION.

UM, WE JUST WANTED TO MENTION WE HAVE A FEW ITEMS ON THIS PLAN THAT NEED TO BE CLARIFIED.

SO, UH, EXCUSE ME, AGENDA ITEM E ON YOUR CONSENT AGENDA, UH, NEEDS A LITTLE CLARIFICATION.

SO STAFF REQUEST THAT YOU, UH, WITHDRAW THAT ITEM TONIGHT.

WE'LL BRING IT BACK IN A FUTURE MEETING.

VERY WELL.

SO WE WILL HAVE A MOTION, PLEASED TO PROVE CONSENT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM E, SECOND PEN.

SECOND.

YEAH.

WHO'S MAKING THE MOTION? OH, I THOUGHT YOU MADE THE MOTION.

I SAID I WILL ACCEPT A MOTION, SO THAT'S FINE.

WE'LL, WE'LL CALL, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

COMMISSIONER CARRIE IS, UH, MOVED TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM E WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.

BRUNO, DO WE DARE RISK THIS? OKAY.

MR. LYLE, WHAT IS YOUR VOTE? COMMISSIONER LYLE, APPROVED.

THANK YOU.

SO WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE A, A VOTE OF SIX TO ZERO.

TO PROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA, PLEASE NOTE THAT WE HAVE MR. LYLE, COMMISSIONER LYLE JOINING US, UH, VIRTUALLY.

AND WE ARE SHORT.

COMMISSIONER BROSKY AND COMMISSIONER TONG.

[Items 1A - 1D]

ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.

PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS, UNLESS INSTRUCTED OTHERWISE BY THE CHAIR, SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED UPON IN THE ORDER REGISTRATIONS ARE RECEIVED.

APPLICANTS ARE LIMITED TO A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES OF PRESENTATION TIME WITH A FIVE MINUTE REBUTTAL IF NEEDED.

REMAINING SPEAKERS ARE LIMITED TO 30 TOTAL MINUTES OF TESTIMONY TIME WITH THREE MINUTES ASSIGNED PER SPEAKER.

THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY MODIFY THESE TIMES AS DEEMED NECESSARY.

ADMINISTRATIVE CONSIDERATION ITEMS MUST BE APPROVED IF THEY MEET CITY DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.

LEGISLATIVE CONSIDERATION ITEMS ARE MORE DISCRETIONARY EXCEPT AS CONSTRAINED BY LEGAL CONSIDERATIONS.

AGENDA ITEM ONE, A DISCUSSION AND ACTION REQUEST TO REPEAL IN ITS ENTIRETY.

ORDINANCE NUMBER 2 0 9 DASH SIX DASH 10, THEREBY RESCINDING THE THOROUGHFARE STANDARDS, RULES AND REGULATIONS TOGETHER WITH ALL AMENDMENTS THERETO AND ADOPTING THE STREET DESIGN STANDARDS.

APPLICANT IS CITY OF PLANO.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSION.

MIKE BELL, CONFERENCE PLANNING MANAGER STAFF WILL BE REQUESTING TO TABLE ITEMS ONE A, ONE B, ONE C, AND ONE D TO THE AUGUST 21ST, 2023 MEETING.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UH, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON ITEMS ONE? A, B, C CHAIRMAN? D CHAIRMAN? YES, SIR.

MR. LAW.

UH, I NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM THE THOROUGHFARE STANDARDS PORTION OF THE MEETING.

THANK YOU.

DOES ANY TURN OFF HIS CAMERA TOO, OR JUST, UH, UM, YEAH, IT WOULD BE BEST TO TURN OFF THE CAMERA, LEAVE THE ZOOM MEETING ALTOGETHER, AND THEN REJOIN.

THANK YOU.

EXCELLENT.

OKAY, SO, UM, DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS? IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM.

I STILL WANNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THE TABLE? JUST ONE MORE OF A CURIOSITY MODE, AND THEN THE VIDEO ON THE PLANO COMP PLAN.ORG/STREETS, WHICH I FOUND VERY INFORMATIVE IS, DO WE NOTIFY THE PUBLIC THAT THAT KIND OF INFORMATION IS ON OUR WEBSITE OR IS JUST LOCK OF THE DRAWER? WHO, OH, YES, WE'VE HAD FACEBOOK POSTS, WE'VE HAD SOCIAL MEDIA, UM, EMAIL BLASTS, ALL SORTS OF,

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OF COMMUNICATION, DIRECTING THEM TO THAT WEBSITE.

OKAY.

THANK MR. LER.

THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.

UM, JUST ONE GENERIC QUESTION, AND YOU MAY BE GONNA PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION.

I THINK, AT LEAST IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, A LOT OF THE DISCUSSION IS ABOUT SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR DOWNTOWN.

AND I, I KNOW THAT THERE, YOU'VE PROBABLY GOTTEN A LOT OF FEEDBACK ON THAT.

ARE WE GONNA GET A BRIEFING BETWEEN NOW AND THE 21ST ABOUT ANY REVISIONS OR ANY FEEDBACK OR ANY, UM, UH, KIND OF REACTION OR COMMENTARY ON SOME OF THE CONCERNS OF THE DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY STAFF IS PREPARED TO PROVIDE THAT BRIEFING ON AUGUST 21ST? IT COULD PROVIDE IT EARLIER IF NEEDED.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY.

WELCOME THE PUBLIC HEARING.

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THE, ON ITEM ONE A, B, C, OR DO YOU NO, WE DO NOT.

OKAY.

I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC.

JUST TO CLARIFY, CAN WE MAKE ONE MOTION TO COVER ALL FOUR OF THESE ITEMS FOR TABLING PURPOSES? YES.

WOULD YOU, WOULD, WOULD IT PLEASE THE CHAIR FOR ME TO REACH, READ EACH ONE SO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE VOTING ON, OR JUST DO IT AS A WHOLE? I, I THINK THEY'RE ALL RELATED TO THOROUGHFARE PLAN.

YES.

I, I THINK THAT'S SUFFICIENT ENOUGH.

THEY'LL ALL BE BROUGHT BACK THE SAME WAY IN THE FUTURE.

IF THEY WERE GONNA BE PULLED APART, THEN I WOULD HAVE A MORE CONCERN.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER REP.

I MAKE A MOTION.

WE POSTPONE ITEMS ONE A, ONE B, ONE C, AND ONE D TO THE AUGUST 21ST MEETING TABLE.

UH, TABLE IT UNTIL THE AUGUST 21ST MEETING.

EXCUSE ME.

SECOND EXCUSE.

ALL RIGHT, SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RATLIFF FOR THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER OLLIE TO TABLE ITEMS ONE A, ONE B, ONE C, AND ONE D TO THE AUGUST 21ST MEETING.

PLEASE VOTE.

AND THAT ITEM CARRIES FIVE TO ZERO IS MR. LOG REJOINED.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

ITEM

[Items 2A & 2B]

TWO, A AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO, A PUBLIC HEARING ZONING CASE.

2023 DASH ZERO THREE, REQUEST TO REZONE 99.0 ACRES LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF LEGACY DRIVE AND PARKWOOD BOULEVARD.

FROM COMMERCIAL EMPLOYMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT, COMMERCIAL EMPLOYMENT ZONE COMMERCIAL EMPLOYMENT, PETITIONER IS E D S LEGACY PARTNERS, L L C.

THIS IS FOR LEGISLATIVE CONSIDERATION.

GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY.

MY NAME IS KATCHA COPELAND AND I'M A SENIOR PLANNER WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

THIS REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM COMMERCIAL EMPLOYMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT COMMERCIAL EMPLOYMENT FOR MIDRISE RESIDENTIAL AND MODIFIED VARIOUS DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS TO CREATE A MIXED USE OFFICE CAMPUS.

THE SURROUNDING ZONING IS COMMERCIAL EMPLOYMENT TO THE NORTH, EAST AND SOUTH, AND DEVELOPED WITH PROFESSIONAL SLASH GENERAL ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES TO THE WEST IS ZONED PLAN DEVELOPMENT 65 CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT ONE AND IS DEVELOPED WITH MULTIFAMILY RESIDENCES, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE ATTACHED LOTS, A BANK AND RESTAURANT USES.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW ON THE SCREEN.

THIS IS THE OLD HEADQUARTERS FOR THE ELECTRONIC DATA SYSTEMS, ALSO KNOWN AS E D S.

THE AERIAL SHOWS THE PRIMARY BUILDING IN THE CENTER OF THE PROPERTY EXTENDING EAST WITH PARKING GARAGES TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH SURROUNDED BY OPEN SPACE.

SHOWN ON THE SCREEN IS THE COMPANION PRELIMINARY SIDE PLAN FOR THIS DISCUSSION.

A COLOR HAS BEEN ASSIGNED WITH THE LAND USE ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

THE RED COLOR IS THE HOTEL AND PARKING GARAGE.

THE YELLOW IS MID-RISE RESIDENTIAL AND THE PARKING GARAGES, THE LIGHT GREEN IS THE OPEN SPACE.

THE DARK GREEN IS THE PROPOSED DETENTION POND.

THE BLUE IS THE PROFESSIONAL SLASH GENERAL ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES HELIPAD AND PARKING.

AND FINALLY, THE PURPLE COLOR IS THE MODERATE INTENSITY MANUFACTURING AND PARKING GARAGES.

ON THE SCREEN IS THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE PSP THAT FRONT'S LEGACY DRIVE AND PARKWOOD BOULEVARD.

BOTH OF THESE STREETS ARE CLASSIFIED AS A TYPE C THOROUGHFARE ON THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN MAP.

NOW WE SEE THE MIDDLE PORTION OF THE PROPERTY THAT FRONTS PARKWOOD BOULEVARD.

AND NOW ON THE SCREEN IS THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY THAT FRONTS PARKWOOD BOULEVARD AND TENNYSON PARKWAY.

TENNYSON PARKWAY IS ALSO CLASSIFIED AS A TYPE C TYPE C THOROUGH AFFAIR.

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THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS DESIGNATED EMPLOYMENT CENTER ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP TAKEN AS A WHOLE.

THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE EM DASHBOARD, THE EASTERN AND CENTRAL PORTIONS OF THE SITE AS HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SCREEN INCLUDE CORPORATE OFFICE, CAMPUS RESEARCH, FACILITIES, AND MANUFACTURING, WHICH ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE EM DASHBOARD.

THE WESTERN PORTION HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW ON THE SCREEN INCLUDES A HIGHER INTENSITY MIXED USE FORM THAT IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE EM DESCRIPTION.

AS STATED, RESIDENTIAL USES ARE NOT APPROPRIATE WITHIN THE EM CATEGORY.

A HIGHER INTENSITY MIXED USE FORM IS MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE URBAN ACTIVITY CENTER.

LEGACY TOWN CENTER DEVELOPMENT IS LOCATED DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM PARKWOOD BOULEVARD TO THE WEST AND IS DESIGNATED AS UA.

SHOULD THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FIND THE MIXED USE ASPECTS APPROPRIATE IN THIS INSTANT DUE TO PROXIMITY OF THE LEGACY TOWN CENTER, IT MAY BE HELPFUL TO ANALYZE THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE SITE REGARDING CONSISTENCY WITH THE UA DASHBOARD.

LOOKING AT IT FROM THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER PERSPECTIVE, SOLELY THE REQUEST MEETS SOME OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICIES, BUT NOT ALL OF THEM.

THIS REQUEST IS DISFAVOR DUE TO THE LACK OF CONFORMITY WITH THE RGM ONE.

THIS REQUEST IS NOT CONFORM TO THE EM LAND USE HOUSING MIX AND DENSITY RECOMMENDATIONS.

RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL SHOULD BE CAREFULLY DELIBERATED AND JUSTIFIED BY FINDINGS.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A MASTER PLAN WITH THE NON-RESIDENTIAL AND RESIDENTIAL USES ALONGSIDE NEW AND EXISTING BUILDINGS AND DEVELOPMENT FEATURES.

THE REQUEST PROVIDES PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED STANDARDS, LANDSCAPING AMENITIES, AND PUBLIC OPEN SPACE.

AS NOTED IN THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT STIPULATIONS, THE APPLICANT IS COMMITTING TO MAINTAINING THE HISTORIC CENTERPIECE OFFICE BUILDING.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING IN THE PD STIPULATIONS A MAXIMUM OF 775 MIDRISE RESIDENTIAL UNITS IN THREE BUILDINGS SITUATED WITHIN 250 FEET OF PARKWOOD BOULEVARD.

THE BUILDINGS WILL ENCOMPASS A MIX OF EFFICIENCIES, ONE, TWO, AND THREE BEDROOM UNITS WITH 50% OF THE UNITS REQUIRING A TRUE BALCONY OR PATIO.

WITH STRUCTURED PARKING ON THE FIRST FEW FLOORS, A REDUCED BUILDING SETBACK IS SHOWN AS A PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

THE PD LANGUAGE SPECIFIES THAT A LONG PARKWOOD BOULEVARD BUILDINGS ARE ALLOWED A MINIMUM SETBACK OF 30 FEET FOR ANY PORTIONS OF THE BUILDINGS UP TO 50 FEET.

ANY PORTIONS OF BUILDING HIGHER THAN 50 FEET WILL REQUIRE A MINIMUM 50 FOOT FRONT YARD SETBACK.

THIS REDUCED SETBACK WILL CREATE A DIFFERENT AESTHETIC OTHER THAN PROPERTIES WITHIN THE LEGACY BUSINESS PARK, WHICH MAINTAIN A 50 FOOT FRONT YARD SETBACK.

THE PROPOSED BUILDINGS ARE CURRENTLY SHOWN AT SEVEN STORIES MUCH LARGER THAN THE BUILDINGS TO THE WEST ACROSS PARKWOOD BOULEVARD, WHICH ARE TWO TO FOUR STORIES IN HEIGHT.

THE PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN SHOWS THE ABILITY TO ACCOMMODATE THE ADDITIONAL 10 FEET, AND WITH THAT STAFF RECOMMENDS INCREASING THE FRONT YARD SETBACK ALONG PARKWOOD TO 40 FEET.

THE PSP SHOWS ALMOST 800,000 SQUARE FEET OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY DEDICATED TO MODERATE INTENSITY MANUFACTURING.

THIS TYPE OF USE CAN BE IMPACTFUL TO RESIDENTS AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO PROHIBIT THIS USE USE WITHIN 700 FEET OF PARKWOOD.

ADDING A PD STANDARD ALLOWS THE EXISTING HELIPORT AND HELI STOP TO BE ON THE SAME LOT AS THE MID-RISE RESIDENTIAL UNITS.

NOTING, HOWEVER, THAT THEY MUST BE A MINIMUM OF 1000 FEET AWAY FROM THESE BUILDINGS AND STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THESE ADDITIONAL RESTRICTIONS.

THE PHASING STIPULATIONS ARE ON THE SCREEN AND WILL ENSURE THAT THE PROPERTY, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HAS NON-RESIDENTIAL USES.

IN ADDITION TO OPEN SPACE BEFORE THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE MIDRISE RESIDENTIAL AND HOTEL DEVELOPMENT STAFF SUPPORTS THE PHASING STANDARDS AND BELIEVES THEY ARE COMMITTED TO ESTABLISHING A LARGE NON-RESIDENTIAL PRESENCE ON THE, ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

AN OPEN SPACE PLAN WAS SUBMITTED WITH THIS REQUEST.

A TOTAL OF 9.5 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR RESIDENTS, EMPLOYEES, AND VISITORS TO ENJOY.

WHEN COMPLETED, THIS DEDICATION CONSTITUTES TO 10.4% OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

AND AS PREVIOUSLY NOTED, WITHIN THE PHASING SECTION OF THE PD STIPULATIONS, SEVEN ACRES MUST BE OPEN, UH, OPEN FOR USE BEFORE ANY MID-RISE.

RESIDENTIAL IS CON CONSTRUCTION BEGINS.

9.5 ACRES IS

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A LARGE COMMITMENT.

HOWEVER, STAFF BELIEVES THERE IS ALSO A MISSED OPPORTUNITY AS THE TWO ACRES OF LAND HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW ON THE SCREEN ARE NOT BEING COUNTED FOR IN THIS OPEN SPACE PLAN.

THE ZONING REQUEST INCLUDES A LARGE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT, REDUCED SETBACKS AND OTHER DEVELOPMENT ALLOWANCES.

THIS OPEN SPACE PLAN SHOWS THE AREA AS OPEN SPACE, IT'S JUST NOT BEING COUNTED FOR.

THIS PORTION WOULD INCREASE THE OPEN SPACE TOTAL TO 11.5 ACRES IF THE COMMISSION RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS ZONING.

STAFF RECOMMENDS THE REMAINING AREA BE INCLUDED IN THE REQUIRED OPEN SPACE.

STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE ADDITIONAL PD STIPULATIONS, IDENTIFYING SCREENING HEIGHT DESIGN, DETAILS OF THE PARKING GARAGES.

A PUBLIC, A QUASI-PUBLIC STREET, IS PROPOSED WITH PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED ELEMENTS.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING DECORATIVE METAL PANELS TO CREATE A UNIQUE AESTHETIC FOR SCREENING METHODS FOCUSED ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY AND THE DEVELOPMENT WILL MEET BUILDING MATERIAL REQUIREMENTS AS, UH, AS NOTED IN ARTICLE 23 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE ON THE SCREEN.

AND THE FOLLOWING SIX, SIX PAGES ARE ALL OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT STIPULATIONS FOR THIS CASE.

I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THE STIPULATIONS AS MANY OF THEM HAVE BEEN MENTIONED IN EARLIER SLIDES, BUT I WILL SHOW THEM ALL ON THE SCREEN.

THIS IS THE FIRST STIPULATION.

SECOND AND THIRD STIPULATION REMAINING OF THE THIRD STIPULATION, FOURTH STIPULATION, FIFTH AND SIXTH.

AND THE FINAL SLIDE.

WE RECEIVED TWO UNIQUE RESPONSES WITHIN THE 200 FOOT BUFFER, ONE IN SUPPORT AND ONE IN OPPOSITION.

AND WE RECEIVED 37 UNIQUE RESPONSES.

TWO IN SUPPORT, ONE NEUTRAL AND 34 IN OPPOSITION.

WE RECEIVED THREE DUPLICATE RESPONSES AND ONE RESPONSE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF PLANO FOR A TOTAL OF 40 RESPONSES.

TO SUMMARIZE, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM COMMERCIAL EMPLOYMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT COMMERCIAL EMPLOYMENT TO ALLOW MID-RISE RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND MODIFY VARIOUS DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS TO CREATE A MIS MIXED USE OFFICE CAMPUS.

THIS REQUEST IS DISFAVORED BECAUSE THE PROPOSAL LACKS CONFORMITY WITH KEY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICIES.

THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO ALIGN THE ZONING LANGUAGE MORE FULLY WITH THE ASSOCIATED P S P REGARDING OPEN SPACE AND SETBACKS.

THIS REQUEST IS DISFAVORED.

SHOULD THE COMMISSION CHOOSE TO SUPPORT THIS REQUEST, STAFF RECOMMENDS CONSIDERATION OF THE TWO REMAINING ISSUES AND HOW THEY COULD BENEFIT FUTURE RESIDENTS, VISITORS, AND EMPLOYEES.

THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS NOTING THE APPLICANT IS HERE WITH THE PRESENTATION AS WELL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THE FRONT END OF THIS, MR. BERNOFF? YES.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

UM, IN READING THE MATERIALS, I SAW A REFERENCE TO AN INTENT TO BUILD A CANCER HOSPITAL ON THIS SITE.

IS THAT CORRECT? THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, BUT WE DO HAVE THE MODERATE INTENSITY MANUFACTURING ALONG WITH OFFICE DEVELOPMENT AND RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT BUILDINGS PROPOSED ON THE PSP.

I'M, NO, I'M WONDERING WHERE THE HOSPITAL WOULD WOULD GO.

WHICH BUILDING IS THE HOSPITAL BUILDING? SO WE DON'T HAVE A HOSPITAL SHOWN ON THE PLAN RIGHT NOW.

OKAY.

THAT MAY BE A PART OF THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSAL, BUT IT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THIS CURRENT PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN.

SO THAT WOULD BE A GOOD QUESTION FOR THEM.

WOULD IT BE CONSISTENT WITH THE ZONING THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING IF THEY DECIDE TO BUILD A HOSPITAL? UH, WE CAN CONFIRM THE HOSPITAL IS ALLOWED IN THAT ZONING DISTRICT.

GIMME JUST A MINUTE TO CHECK THAT OUT.

OKAY.

UH, NEXT QUESTION.

WHAT IS THE, WHEREIN IS THE NEED FOR A HELIPAD OR A HELLA STOP.

THE HELLA STOP IS EXISTING AND IT IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.

I MEAN, IS THE APPLICANT PROPOSING SOME USE THAT THAT REQUIRES HELICOPTERS? THEY ARE HERE TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS ON, UH, HOW OFTEN THEY MAY USE HELICOPTERS IN HELI STOPS.

BUT CURRENTLY IN OUR ZONING ORDINANCE, WE DO NOT ALLOW HELIPADS AND HELI STOPS WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET OF A LOT THAT PERTAINS RESIDENTIAL.

AND SO WITH THIS REQUEST AS ONE LARGE LOT, THERE WOULD BE RESIDENTIAL WITHIN THE SAME PROPERTY AS A HELIPAD.

HOWEVER, THAT'S WHY THE APPLICANT ADDED THAT STIPULATION TO NOTE IT MUST BE AT LEAST A THOUSAND FEET AWAY FROM THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT OF

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THE PROPERTY, BUT IT'S STILL ON THE SAME LOT.

SO WE, WE NEEDED TO ADD THAT STIPULATION IN ORDER FOR THE APPLICANT TO KEEP THE HELIPAD.

SO YOU'RE SAYING THERE IS AN EXISTING HELIPAD NOW? THERE IS.

OKAY.

AND FINALLY, UH, YOU ARE SUGGESTING THE AVAILABILITY OF ANOTHER 10 FEET OF SETBACK OFF OF OR OFF OF PARKWOOD.

WHERE WOULD THAT 10 FEET COME FROM? WHAT ADJUSTMENT WOULD THEY HAVE TO MAKE TO THEIR SITE PLAN IN ORDER TO GENERATE THOSE EXTRA 10 FEET ON THE SITE PLAN? THERE IS SOME AVAILABILITY THAT THEY COULD INCREASE THAT SETBACK, BUT THERE WOULD LIKELY BE CHANGES THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY.

OKAY.

TO BE NOTED ON THE PSP? WELL, I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT WOULD THEY HAVE TO, LET'S SAY, GIVE UP IN, IN TERMS OF SPACE IN ORDER TO REDEDICATE SPACE TO THE, TO AN ADDITIONAL 10 FEET OF SETBACK? SO THE, THE BUILDING IS ALMOST AT THAT SETBACK RIGHT NOW.

THERE'S JUST, IT'S JUST A FEW FEET OFF.

THERE'S ONE SETBACK THAT I THINK IS, WE HAVE IT IN, IN THE REPORT BETWEEN 35, 30 35 FEET AND THE REST ARE CLOSER TO 40 FEET.

SO OKAY.

THEY MAY HAVE TO SLIDE THE BUILDING SLIGHTLY TO THE EAST, BUT THERE IS ROOM EAST OF THE BUILDING TO MOVE IT THAT DIRECTION.

OKAY.

YES SIR.

WITHOUT COMPROMISING THE PEDESTRIAN OPEN SPACE WALKWAYS OPEN OR THE SEMI-PRIVATE ROAD OR, OR THE, OR THE, OR, OR THE TREES THAT THEY'RE GONNA PLANT THERE? THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY.

I DO WANNA MENTION HOSPITAL IS AN ALLOWED USE IN THE COMMERCIAL EMPLOYMENT DISTRICT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

COMMISSIONER KERRY? YEAH, JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION.

UM, THERE'S, UH, SOMETHING REFERENCED IN HERE ABOUT CHALLENGES WITH WASTEWATER AND I WONDER IF YOU COULD ADDRESS THOSE CHALLENGES AND WHAT PLANO MIGHT HAVE TO DO TO, TO RESOLVE THOSE IF A FACT THIS MOVES FORWARD? I'D HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT.

I, LET ME READ THE STAFF REPORT AND SEE WHAT I, WHAT WE CAN SHARE WITH YOU.

OKAY.

I, I, I THINK I CAN, I MEAN, THERE'S NOT, UH, REFINED INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT WILL WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO STUDY THE WASTEWATER SITUATION.

AND IF IMPROVEMENTS ARE NEEDED, THEN THAT WOULD BE WHEN THAT DISCUSSION WILL BE HAD.

SO WE DON'T HAVE A STUDY RIGHT NOW THAT SHOWS THE EXACT WASTEWATER INFORMATION IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.

SO, UH, WE, WE DON'T HAVE INFORMATION TO SHARE IT WITH YOU AT THIS TIME.

HOW MUCH RISK MIGHT THAT PRESENT TO THIS KNOWING THAT WE ALREADY HAVE SOME WASTEWATER MM-HMM.

CHALLENGES WITHIN PLANO? YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THAT SOMETIMES ALREADY WITH THIS COMMISSION.

DO YOU HAVE AN OPINION ON HOW SIGNIFICANT THOSE CHALLENGES MIGHT BE? I THINK IT'S SITE SPECIFIC.

THE APPLICANT'S ENGINEER IS AVAILABLE TO SEE THINGS, SO SHE MAY HAVE SOME INFORMATION ON THAT.

OKAY.

SO I ASK THAT QUESTION.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM.

COMMISSIONER RALPH.

THANK YOU CHAIRMAN.

UM, JUST TO SUMMARIZE WHAT I THINK I'M READING IN YOUR REPORT, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THERE ARE REALLY, IN ADDITION TO THE PD RESTRICTIONS THAT YOU WENT THROUGH AND THEY'RE IN THE REPORT, YOU'RE SAYING THAT TWO ADDITIONAL, UH, IF WE'RE TO MOVE FORWARD THAT YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO CHANGE FROM A 30 SLASH 50 FOOT SETBACK TO JUST STRAIGHT 40 AND THE ALSO THE ADDITIONAL PARKLAND.

IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT I MISSED IN THERE THAT WOULD BE IN ADDITION TO THE, UM, PD LANGUAGE? THOSE ARE THE TWO ITEMS THAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING.

OKAY.

AND SO TALK ME THROUGH THE 30 THEN 50 FOOT SETBACK VERSUS JUST A 40 STRAIGHT UP.

I UNDERSTAND AT THE STREET LEVEL THE EXTRA 10 FEET, BUT, BUT YOU SAID SOMETHING IN YOUR PRESENTATION ABOUT THE 50 FOOT ABOVE 50 FEET WOULD PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL ARCHITECTURAL, UM, CHARACTER, I THINK WAS THE WORD YOU USED, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT.

IF WE DID STRAIGHT 40, COULD IT THEN BE JUST A FLAT FACE BUILDING OR WHAT, UM, WHAT ARE THE GUIDELINES THERE? UH, JUST TO CLARIFY, WE'RE NOT PROPOSING A STRAIGHT 40 FOOT.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A STAGGERED SETBACK STARTING AT 30, AND THAT WOULD BE TWO STORY MAXIMUM HEIGHT BETWEEN 30 AND 50 FEET.

AND THEN A TRADITIONAL 50 FOOT SETBACK WE'RE WE'RE SAYING THAT 30 FOOT SHOULD BE 40.

OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.

CAUSE THAT WASN'T THE WAY I WAS HEARING IT, SO THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU MR. LEY.

UH, JUST A QUESTION ON, UM, IT'S CLASH WITH RGM ONE.

UM, CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH THAT AGAIN? UH, JUST TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND, WHAT, WHAT A, IF ANY, UH, MITIGATION FACTORS COULD BE, UM, PROPOSED TO THE APPLICANT? OR ARE THERE NO WAYS OUT OF ITS BEING DISFAVORED WITH RGM ONE? SURE.

MR. BELL CAN DISCUSS THE COMP PLAN.

SO RGM ONE SPEAKS TO REQUESTS THAT DO NOT COMPLY WITH MIXED USES, HEIGHT OR DENSITY OR DISFAVORED.

THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER CATEGORY IS VERY CLEAR THAT RESIDENTIAL USES

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ARE NOT SUPPORTED.

MM-HMM.

, THE MIX OF USES ALLOWS ZERO RESIDENTIAL, THEREFORE ANY RESIDENTIAL PROPOSED ON THIS SITE WOULD BE DISFAVORED BY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND REQUIRE FINDINGS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER LYLE, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? UH, I, I DO.

I JUST GOT A QUESTION FOR ERIC.

IF, IF THE ZONING THAT WAS TO THE EAST THAT I BELIEVE STOPS IN THE MIDDLE OF PARKWOOD WAS CONTINUED, I'M SORRY, THE ZONING TO THE WEST THAT STOPS IN THE MIDDLE OF PARKWOOD WAS CONTINUED TO THE EAST INTO THIS SITE, WOULD THE MULTIFAMILY BILL OUT AT THAT POINT OR WOULD THE COMP PLAN ALLOW IT, I SHOULD SAY? WELL, SO I THINK WE'RE TALKING TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

SO THE ZONING TO THE WEST IS FOR THE SHOPS AT LEGACY, IT DOES ALLOW MULTIFAMILY USES.

SO IF THIS PROPERTY WAS ZONED WITH THE SAME ZONING AS THAT PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, MULTIFAMILY WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY.

UM, I THINK YOU MENTIONED THE COMP PLAN.

THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS A LAND USE DESIGNATION AND THAT IS DIFFERENT ON THE SHOP'S LEGACY PROPERTY THAN ON THIS PROPERTY.

SO THERE'S THE ZONING AND, AND THE, AND THE LAND USE DESIGNATION.

SO ONE IS A ZONING DISTRICT AND THE OTHER IS A CONFERENCE OF PLAN, UM, DISTRICT, IF YOU WILL.

SO DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? AM I ANSWERING THAT AS YOU'RE ASKING IT? IT DOES.

AND, AND JUST TO LET THE COMMISSION KNOW WHAT I'M GETTING AT, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A VIABLE, UM, OPTION, BUT IF I'M JUST WONDERING WHEN IT MAKES SENSE TO LOOK AT THE COMP PLAN AND POTENTIALLY UPDATE THE COMP PLAN, IF, UH, MY HEART IS TO NOT ALWAYS GO AGAINST THE COMP PLAN.

I WANT TO GIVE IT PROPER RESPECT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME IT'S COMING UP ON TWO YEARS OLD AND I JUST WONDER IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULDN'T BE LOOKED AT, UM, VERSUS MAKING FINDINGS AGAINST IT ON A REGULAR BASIS.

THANK YOU, MR. LAW.

UH, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OTHER QUESTIONS SPECIFIC TO THE DEVELOPMENT? OKAY, SO I DON'T, I'M NOT HEARING ANY ADDITIONAL COMMISSIONER RATLIFF? YES.

SORRY.

THANK YOU.

I HAD ANOTHER THOUGHT.

UM, SO KIND OF ON THE SAME AS COMMISSIONER LYLE'S THINKING, IF YOU LOOK AT ONE, ONE OF YOUR SLIDES HAD THE BLUE AND THE YELLOW, THE SAME ONE THAT'S IN THE REPORT, IF YOU CAN PUT THAT UP ON THE SCREEN.

YEP.

YEAH.

YEP.

KEEP GOING.

I'M NOT SURE IF THAT THERE YOU, THAT'S CLOSE ENOUGH.

THAT ONE'S CLOSE ENOUGH.

OH, OH, I THINK ONE MORE.

THERE YOU GO.

THAT'S THE ONE I WAS THINKING ABOUT.

SO I GUESS MY, MY QUESTION, AND I'M NOT SURE WHO THIS QUESTION IS FOR ERIC, BUT IF, IF THE FRONTAGE OF THIS TRACT, THE FIRST A HUNDRED FEET OR WHATEVER THAT IS, HAD BEEN SHOWN IN THE COMP PLAN AS UA, WOULD WE EVEN BE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION, I GUESS WOULD BE MY QUESTION, MR. BELL, DO YOU WANNA YES.

SO IF THAT WERE UA, IT WOULD MEET MANY OF THE COMP PLAN RECOMMENDATIONS FOR UA, EXCEPT I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT IT STILL WOULD NOT COMPLY WITH THE HOUSING MIX, WHICH IS PART OF THE MIX OF USES, BECAUSE THAT'S BASED ON UNIT COUNTS, NOT ACREAGE.

AND SO IT IS ALREADY ABOVE THE PERCENTAGE THAT UA, WHICH INCLUDES ALL OF LEGACY GRANITE PARK LEGACY WEST, IS ALREADY ABOVE THE AMOUNT OF MULTIFAMILY TYPES THAT'S RECOMMENDED FOR THE UA CATEGORY.

SO EVEN IF THIS LAND AREA WAS INCLUDED, IT WOULD, THAT WOULD NOT CHANGE AND IT WOULD STILL REQUIRE FINDINGS TO APPROVE THAT CASE.

OKAY.

I, I WASN'T FOLLOWING THAT IN THE REPORT, SO THAT HELPS ME.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UM, I HAVE A QUICK ONE AND JUST SO THAT, AND I'M SURE THE APPLICANT WILL TALK TO THIS JUST A LITTLE BIT, BUT FROM OUR STANDPOINT, MODERATE INTENSITY INDUSTRIAL, WHAT KIND OF RANGE DOES THAT COVER? I MEAN, I WILL THERE BE, I MEAN, I THINK I HAVE AN IDEA WHAT THE APPLICANT'S GONNA PROPOSE, BUT FROM OUR POINT OF VIEW, I THINK OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL LIKE WE HAVE OVER IN THE, YOU KNOW, RT DISTRICT AND STUFF LIKE THAT, WE'RE DROPPING, IF YOU USE THE WORD IN INDUSTRIAL IN THIS AREA, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS.

AND OTHERS MAY AS WELL BE, WAIT A MINUTE, WHAT ARE WE DOING OVER HERE? IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, PUTTING TOGETHER CIRCUIT BOARDS IS ONE THING, IF IT'S, SURE.

WE HAVE THREE CATEGORIES OF MANUFACTURING, LIGHT, MODERATE, AND HEAVY.

UM, LIGHT HAS VERY LIMITED FABRICATION, LIMITED REFINEMENT OF MATERIALS, MODERATE, MODERATE REFINEMENT, MODERATE, UM, PRODUCTION OF MATERIALS.

AND THEN HEAVY

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IS, IS REALLY WHAT YOU THINK OF AS, YOU KNOW, SERIOUS MANUFACTURING.

SO THE, THE ZONING ORDINANCE IS A LITTLE BIT, UM, IT, IT ALLOWS SOME INTERPRETATION IN THOSE USES.

WE DID TALK WITH THE APPLICANT ABOUT THEIR OPERATIONS, AND AS WE DISCUSSED IT, WE DETERMINED THAT IT FALLS UNDER THE MODERATE CATEGORY.

OKAY.

UM, WHICH DOES HAVE, YOU KNOW, IT MAY CREATE SOME IMPACTS, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT RESIDENTIAL USES.

RIGHT.

WHICH IS WHY IN THIS CASE, UH, WE WORK WITH THEM AND THEY'RE RESTRICTING THE LOCATION OF THAT USE CLOSER TO THE EAST SIDE, FURTHER AWAY FROM THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS.

SO WE DO BELIEVE THAT THEIR OPERATIONS, IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE MIX THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING ON SITE, UM, WITH, YOU KNOW, ALSO OFFICE, OTHER, OTHER COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL USES.

AND WITH THE STANDARDS THEY'RE PROPOSING, UH, WE DO THINK IT'S GOING TO BE, UH, UH, AN EFFECTIVE DEVELOPMENT WITH THE INCLUSION OF RESIDENTIAL.

OKAY.

AND THAT LEADS ME TO MY POINT, WHICH WAS THE INDICATION WAS THAT THE MODERATE, UH, INTENSITY INDUSTRIAL WOULD BE AT LEAST 700 FEET FROM PARKWOOD.

YOU HAVE A FLY OR SOMETHING IN HERE FROM PARKWOOD, IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? CORRECT.

BUT THE RESIDENTIAL IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF PARKWOOD.

SO IS IT GONNA BE 700 FEET FROM PARKWOOD OR 700 FEET FROM THE RESIDENTIAL? AND IF IT'S 700 FEET FROM THE RESIDENTIAL, WHAT DOES OUR ZONING ORDINANCE REQUIRE THE DISTANCE TO BE BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND THE MODERATE INDUSTRY? UH, MODERATE INTENSITY INDUSTRIAL.

SURE.

IT'LL BE 700 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE AND THE RESIDENTIAL NEEDS TO BE CONSTRUCTED WITHIN 250 FEET OF PARKWOOD BOULEVARD.

SO THERE WILL BE A SEPARATION.

YEAH.

THE, THE ORDINANCE DOESN'T HAVE A SPECIFICATION BETWEEN THESE TWO LAND USES.

UM, SO WE, WE APPLIED WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS A REASONABLE DIMENSION, UM, WITH THE PROPOSED BUILDINGS AND SITE DESIGN.

AND SO ESSENTIALLY THERE'S A, I THINK A 450 FOOT DIMENSION.

IS THAT CORRECT, KACHA? YES.

SOMEWHERE IN THAT RANGE.

UM, TYPICALLY WHEN THE CITY HAS USES THAT MAY BE IMPACTFUL TO RESIDENTS, AROUND 300 TO 500 FEET IS, IS A NORMAL DISTANCE THAT WE APPLY THAT, THAT HELPS ME GET A SENSE OF WHAT DO WE TYPICALLY DO? AND, UH, OF COURSE WE DON'T KNOW BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE DESIGNING THIS OR IF IT'S APPROVED, WE'RE GIVING THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE THAT TYPE OF OPERATION GOING ON.

BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NEXT PERSON COMING IN, WHAT THAT SAME ALLOWANCE WOULD DO.

SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE KEEPING SOME GAP THERE BETWEEN THAT, SO.

OKAY.

VERY GOOD.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OH, COMMISSIONER KERRY.

SORRY.

YEAH, SO, UM, COULD YOU BE, YOU KNOW, THIS COMMISSION I THINK WISELY FREQUENTLY, UH, LOOKS AT NOISE AND OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES.

COULD YOU GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE TEXTURE ON WHAT THESE GUYS ACTUALLY DO AND WHAT RISKS OR SHOULD THEY DO THAT? LET'S LOOK THEM.

BUT YOU, YOU'VE TALKED TO THEM AND I, I GUESS SO WHATEVER YOU WANNA DO, CHAIR, BUT YEAH.

YEAH, WE HAVE, AND I, I THINK IF I WERE TO SPEAK TO THEIR OPERATIONS, THEY WOULD PROBABLY JUST SHAKE THEIR HEADS AND WAIT TILL THEY STOOD UP TO TALK ABOUT IT.

OKAY.

BUT WE DID TALK ABOUT THE IMPACT THAT THEIR OPERATIONS WOULD HAVE IF WE HAD TO, IF RESIDENTIAL WERE ON THIS PROPERTY AND WE DID FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME SEPARATION WAS NEEDED.

UM, BUT THAT WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING, UH, WOULD BE APPROPRIATE WITHIN NEARBY RESIDENTIAL CONTEXT.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM.

.

OKAY.

VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE'LL LET THE APPLICANT, UH, SPEAK TO THE COMMISSION CHAIR.

I SHOULD HAVE ANNOUNCED THE ACCOMPANYING, UH, PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN WITH THIS.

GO AHEAD AND DO THAT WHILE THEY'RE COMING UP.

THANK YOU.

UM, IF WE CAN HAVE CLAIRE HEMPEL, UH, JEREMY FRANKLIN AND FRANK ZANELLI.

I'M HERE.

COME DOWN.

UH, AGENDA ITEM TWO B THAT ACCOMPANIES THE SONY CASE IS A PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN.

E D S HEADQUARTERS BLOCK A LOT, ONE SEVEN HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE MID-RISE RESIDENTIAL UNITS, PROFESSIONAL, GENERAL ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE, MODERATE INTENSITY MANUFACTURING, AND A HOTEL ON ONE LOT ON 91.0 ACRES.

LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF LEGACY DRIVE AND PARKWOOD V BOULEVARD.

AGAIN, THIS IS ZONED COMMERCIAL EMPLOYMENT AND THE APPLICANT IS E D S LEGACY PARTNERS, L L C.

THIS IS, UH, FOR ADMINISTRATIVE CONSIDERATION.

HELLO EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS FRANK ZANELLI, AND, UH, I'M THE PRESIDENT OF NEXT POINT DEVELOPMENT COMPANY.

UH, MORE IMPORTANTLY THAN THAT, I'M A 42 YEAR RESIDENT OF PLANO AND, UH, WAS ACTUALLY LUCKY ENOUGH TO BE INVOLVED WHEN THE E D S WAS ACTUALLY BEING DEVELOPED.

I SPENT A LONG TIME WITH THE PEROT FAMILY, UM, WORKING ON THE ASSORTMENT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE DID, BUT I'VE BEEN IN PLANO

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FOR A LONG TIME AND, UH, VERY PROUD, UH, TO BE A RESIDENT HERE.

BOTTOM LINE TO THIS FACILITY IS, IT'S BEEN SITTING VACANT FOR TOO LONG.

I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE ON THAT.

I PROBABLY DRIVE BY THREE TIMES A WEEK AS I'M GOING TO LEGACY EAST OR WEST, OR I LIVE IN WILLOW BEND.

AND, UM, I HAD THE GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO COME IN TO NEXT POINT, WHICH IS A 17 BILLION UNDER MANAGEMENT COMPANY, FINANCIAL ADVISOR THAT HAS A BIG REAL ESTATE PORTFOLIO.

I'VE KNOWN THE CHAIRMAN FOR A LONG TIME.

I WAS BASICALLY, I WOULDN'T SAY SEMI-RETIRED, BUT I WAS WORKING OUT OF MY HOME.

AND, UH, I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH THROUGH THE YEARS TO BE INVOLVED AT ALLIANCE AIRPORT, AMERICAN AIRLINES CENTER, A LOT OF DIFFERENT BIG DEVELOPMENTS.

AND SO HE CALLED ME AND HE SAID, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT PUTTING A LIFE SCIENCE CENTER? AND I HAD STUDIED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT LIFE SCIENCE, AND I SAID, DOES THE BUILDING WORK? YOU KNOW, IS THAT POSSIBLE TO BE ABLE TO CONVERT THIS EIGHTIES BUILDING? I WAS A YOUNG BUSINESSMAN WHEN ROSS PEROT WAS HOLDING COURT IN THE MID, UH, LATE EIGHTIES AS THEY WERE BUILDING THIS FACILITY AND DESIGNING IT.

AND I SAID, DOES THE BUILDING ACTUALLY WORK? WELL, WE'VE HIRED THE TOP ENGINEERING COMPANY IN THE COUNTRY FOR LIFE SCIENCE CRB, AND THEY'LL BE TALKING A LITTLE BIT TONIGHT, BUT THE LONG AND SHORT OF IT IS, IS THAT THIS IS A PROJECT THAT PROBABLY IS THE BIGGEST ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEAL I'VE EVER SEEN.

RAY PERRYMAN, WHO IS, UH, FOREMOST, YOU KNOW, AUTHORITY ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, SAYS IT'S THE BIGGEST HE'S EVER SEEN.

AND WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE JOBS AND THE TAX BASE AND ALL OF THE THINGS THAT COME ALONG WITH IT, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS BUILD A HUB HERE THAT WOULD BE A GATEWAY FROM THE EAST COAST TO THE WEST COAST.

BOSTON HAS 40 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF LIFE SCIENCE.

SAN DIEGO HAS 30 MILLION.

I THINK THAT IN NORTH TEXAS, WE SHOULD HAVE 10, 15 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF LIFE SCIENCE BECAUSE IT'S A HUGELY EMERGING BUSINESS.

IT, THEY'RE REALLY CURING ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT THINGS WITH THE RESEARCH AND ALL OF THE, YOU KNOW, EVENTS THAT ARE OCCURRING INSIDE THESE FACILITIES.

TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MICHAEL, UM, WE OWN ANOTHER 110 ACRES THAT IS NOT ON THE DOCKET TONIGHT THAT WE BOUGHT, THAT WE PLAN ON PUTTING THE RESEARCH HOSPITAL IN.

SO WE CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.

BUT THIS WILL ENCOMPASS FROM SOUP TO NUTS ALL THE WAY FROM THE INCUBATOR CAPABILITIES WHERE THEY'RE REALLY, THESE YOUNG SCIENTISTS ARE DOING ALL THE HARD WORK ALL THE WAY TO THE GRADUATION SPACE, THE R AND D SPACE.

AND THEN AS YOU GET INTO THE THERAPEUTIC PRODUCTION FACILITIES, UM, THAT'S REALLY THEREFORE, UM, YOU KNOW, THERAPEUTIC PRODUCTION, THE MAKING OF DRUGS.

AND WHEN WE LOOK AT IT, THERE'S A HUGE PUSH IN THE UNITED STATES TO KEEP THIS MANUFACTURING ONSHORE.

WE ARE GONNA HAVE ABOUT 2.4 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF IT IN THE TOTAL PROJECT ON THIS PARTICULAR SITE, THE 91, WE HAVE 800,000 SQUARE FEET.

IT'S, IT'S, IT'S THE MAKING OF THE DRUGS.

IT'S ABOUT AS CLEAN AS A HOSPITAL.

UH, THERE'S GIGANTIC AIR HANDLERS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT GOES ON WITH THAT.

BUT THIS IS A BUSINESS IN PLANO THAT I THINK WE NEED TO BE IN AND DROPPING IT IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS ECO ZONE.

WE LOOK AT LEGACY AS BEING OUR PARTNER.

WE DON'T WANNA BE IN THE HOSPITALITY BUSINESS.

I'D LIKE TO NEVER BUILD ANOTHER APARTMENT, BUT WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO HOUSE THESE NUMBERS OF COMPANIES AND PEOPLE THAT COME IN.

WE'RE NOT DOING ANY MULTIFAMILY IF WE GET APPROVED UNTIL THE THIRD PHASE.

WE SPENT AT THAT POINT OVER 2 BILLION, AND WE HAVE A GIGANTIC UP AND RUNNING PROGRAM AT THAT POINT.

WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN HOUSE THE PEOPLE BECAUSE THIS IS A VERY COMMUNAL BUSINESS THAT WE'RE REALLY GETTING INVOLVED WITH.

UM, SO I'M GONNA BE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

I WANNA TURN THIS OVER TO JEREMY, UH, FRANKLIN, WHO IS THE C R B REPRESENTATIVE, AND HE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT EVERYTHING.

IF WE WANNA SWITCH THIS, UH, WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A, UH, I GO RIGHT HERE.

I'M NOT VERY GOOD AT THIS RIGHT HERE.

ALL RIGHT.

THIS IS A LETTER THAT WE WROTE, THAT I SIGNED THAT BASICALLY I HOPE ADDRESSED SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAD BEEN HEARING.

WE, WE'VE ASKED THE PLANNING AND ZONING PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAVE BEEN THE MAIN CONCERNS.

AND SO THIS IS A LETTER WE'D LIKE TO PUT THIS INTO THE RECORD, AND I KNOW THESE GUYS HAVE, HAVE SEEN THAT, UM, ON EXACTLY, UM, WHAT WE THINK SOME OF THE CONCERNS ARE.

AND I SIGNED IT AND

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WE ADDRESSED IT.

AND BASICALLY WHAT IT SAYS IS THAT EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING AND HOW WE'RE DOING IT.

SO, UH, I THINK THE LETTER IS IMPORTANT.

HERE'S THE SITE PLAN.

AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN, YOU SEE THE FIVE MAIN BUILDINGS IN THE MIDDLE, THEY'RE IN WHITE, AND THE GOD POD SITS IN THE MIDDLE.

UH, THE SOUTHERN MOST PEACE AND JEREMY WILL COVER THIS, THE SOUTHERNMOST BUILDING AND, UM, THE MANUFACTURING, THE, THE THERAPEUTIC PRODUCTION FACILITY ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE ARE GONNA BE IN PHASE ONE.

WE'RE THEN GONNA BUILD PHASE TWO, WHICH WE'RE GONNA TAKE THE OTHER SIDE OF THE GOD POD AND BUILD OUT THAT BUILDING ALONG WITH ANOTHER THERAPEUTIC PRODUCTION FACILITY.

IT WILL NOT BE UNTIL PHASE THREE.

AND LIKE I SAID, ABOUT 2 BILLION HAS BEEN SPENT, UH, THAT WE THINK THERE'S A NEED FOR THESE APARTMENTS.

AGAIN, THIS IS NOT A VERY HIGH END USE FOR US, GIVEN WHAT WE'RE HAVING TO PAY FOR LAND RIGHT NOW, UH, TO PUT APARTMENTS ON.

WE'RE NOT TRYING TO BUILD APARTMENTS, BUT WE FEEL THAT WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO HOUSE THIS MASSIVE AMOUNT OF, UH, GROWTH THAT WE THINK IS GONNA COME BY VIRTUE OF THIS FACILITY.

THAT'S WHY WE PUT IT IN PHASE THREE.

AND SO THAT'S KIND OF OUR, OUR SITE PLAN.

I'LL GO BACK, THIS IS A GREAT SHOT.

IF YOU GUYS GO OUT TO THE FACILITY NOW, EVERYONE KNOWS YOU KIND OF DRIVE UNDERNEATH AND YOU GO FROM THE WEST SIDE TO THE EAST SIDE.

WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS ENCASE THAT WHOLE AREA AND MAKE THAT THE HUGE MARKET HALL.

AGAIN, I, I CAN'T OVEREMPHASIZE THAT.

THIS IS SUCH A COMMUNAL BUSINESS.

THE LIFE SCIENCE BUSINESS, EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE CONGREGATED TOGETHER.

THAT'S HOW ALL THESE GREAT THERAPIES AND ALL THESE GREAT THINGS OCCUR.

SO WE'RE CLOSING THAT OFF AND WE'RE DOING IT SOMEWHAT ALSO FOR SECURITY REASONS.

AND THAT WILL BE THE GREAT HALL.

AND OUTSIDE IN THE WEST SIDE, WE'RE BUILDING THE PARK THAT CLAIRE IS GONNA TALK, UH, TO YOU GUYS ABOUT WITH ALL OF THE OUTDOOR FUNCTIONS OF THIS KIND OF FACING PARKWOOD.

IT'S GONNA BE A BEAUTIFUL PARK, IT'S GONNA BE FANTASTIC FOR THE WORKFORCE, AND IT REALLY IS GONNA CREATE, UH, A GREAT DYNAMIC ON THE BACKSIDE IS GONNA BE REALLY WHERE THE THERAPEUTIC PRODUCTION OCCURS.

AND IT'S GONNA HAVE MUCH MORE SECURITY IN TERMS OF ACCESS IN AND OUT.

THIS IS GONNA BECOME VERY PUBLIC.

HERE'S ANOTHER KIND OF SHOT STRAIGHT AT, IF YOU'RE GOING STRAIGHT RIGHT NOW, YOU JUST GO RIGHT THROUGH THAT GLASS AND YOU GO OVER ON THE OTHER SIDE.

BUT WE'RE GONNA ENCASE THAT AS PART OF THE, UH, AS PART OF THE, UH, REDEVELOPMENT.

AND THEN HERE'S A BIT OF A INTERACTIVE, WHICH WILL KIND OF GIVE YOU A FEEL FOR THAT GRAND HALL, UH, WHICH IS REALLY GONNA BE A, BE A CENTERPIECE REALLY FOR, UH, THIS DEVELOPMENT.

AND, YOU KNOW, THE EMPLOYMENT NUMBERS HERE ARE, ARE ENORMOUS.

UH, FIRST PHASE IS 7,800, AND BY THE TIME YOU GET DONE WITH THE FOURTH PHASE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE OVER 30,000, UH, NEW JOBS.

AND SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE PLANNING FOR ALL THAT.

THIS PARK IS GONNA BE A WONDERFUL ADDITION TO THE AMENITY PACKAGE AND IT'S GONNA BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORK HERE IN ORDER TO GO TO THE PARK.

AND CLAIRE WILL TALK, UM, A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT.

SO I'LL BE BACK IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS.

WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT.

OBVIOUSLY AS A PLANO RESIDENT, I'M BEYOND EXCITED ABOUT.

I DON'T WANT TO PICK UP THE PAPER ANYMORE, READ ABOUT WHAT FRISCO'S DOING, SO I'M GONNA BE VERY, VERY HAPPY IF WE CAN FIGURE THIS OUT AND, AND, AND GET THIS PROJECT MOVING.

SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, LET ME BRING JEREMY UP.

IT'S GREAT TO BE, GREAT TO BE HERE AND SEE HOW MUCH TIME THEY HAVE.

JEREMY FRANKLIN, WE HAVE FIVE MINUTES AND 30 SECONDS.

WOW.

OKAY.

SORRY.

THANK YOU.

UH, JEREMY FRANKLIN ARCHITECT WITH CRB GROUP.

SO I WANTED TO GO THROUGH THE PHASING, WHICH FRANK HIT ON SOME ALREADY, SO I'LL GO PRETTY QUICKLY.

BUT PHASE ONE IS RENOVATION OF THE SOUTHERN TWO MAIN BUILDINGS.

WE CALL THEM H ONE AND H TWO, ALONG WITH MODIFICATIONS OF THE SOUTH PARKING GARAGE.

WE'RE DEMOLISHING A PORTION OF IT TO THE EAST SO THAT WE HAVE SPACE FOR THE SOUTHEAST THERAPEUTIC MANUFACTURING BUILDING.

SO WE'RE FOCUSING ON GETTING THE SCIENCE SPACES MOVING AND ACTIVATED FIRST IN ORDER TO BRING PEOPLE BACK TO THE CAMPUS AND, UH, GET A LOT OF ACTIVITY STARTED ALONG WITH THE PARK SPACE BEING CRITICAL TO THIS FIRST PHASE AS WELL.

AND WITH PHASE TWO, WE'RE EXTENDING THOSE SCIENCE NEEDS UP TO THE NORTHEAST.

SO RENOVATING THE H THREE, WHICH IS THE NORTH OF THE THREE ORIGINAL BUILDINGS, ALONG WITH THE NORTHEAST

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MANUFACTURING BUILDING AND A NEW PARKING DECK ON THE NORTH SIDE.

AND THE THIRD PHASE IS BUILDING OUT THAT MID-RISE RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS ALONG WITH THE HOTEL.

SO WE'RE INTENDING THESE RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS TO BE, UH, HIGH-END MID-RISE.

THE PLAN IS FOR THEM TO BE FIVE RESIDENTIAL FLOORS, OVER TWO LEVELS OF PARKING AND THE HOTEL.

BOTH OF THESE FUNCTIONS ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO MAKING THIS CAMPUS SUCCEED.

THE HOTEL IS GONNA BE GREAT FOR CONFERENCES WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING TO THIS CAMPUS, AND A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS WILL BE EMPLOYEES ON THE CAMPUS.

SCIENTISTS WORK IN DIFFERENT HOURS THAN A LOT OF US DO.

24 HOURS A DAY, THEY HAVE RESEARCH PROJECTS GOING ON, THEY CAN RUN BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THEIR APARTMENT AND THEIR LAB.

SO HAVING THIS FULL ECOSYSTEM REALLY ALLOWS US TO WORK AS LIKE A LIVE WORK PLAY CAMPUS.

SO HAVING ALL THESE PROGRAMS TOGETHER IS REALLY WHAT MAKES IT SUCCESSFUL FOR THE LONG TERM.

CAN HAND OFF TO CLAIRE IF YOU WANT TO RUN EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS CLAIRE HEMPEL WITH DESIGN WORKSHOP.

UH, WE'RE THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS ON THE PROJECT, SO I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE OPEN SPACE.

UM, IN PARTICULAR THE OPEN SPACE THAT'S LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

SO IF YOU FOCUS BETWEEN WHERE THE MULTI-FAMILIES ARE ON PARKWOOD, BETWEEN AND BETWEEN THE, UM, THE T R Q BUILDING, THAT'S WHERE OUR FOCUS HAS BEEN.

AND THE KEY TO THIS HAS BEEN WORKING WITH PARKS DEPARTMENT STAFF, UM, AND MAKING SURE THAT THIS PARK SPACE IS GOING TO FEEL IT'S OPEN FOR THE PUBLIC, UM, THAT IT CONNECTS TO THE TRAILS AND SIDEWALKS THAT GO OFFSITE INTO LEGACY TOWN CENTER TO THE SOUTH AND TO THE WEST.

UM, SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THIS OPEN SPACE FEEL LIKE, IT FEELS LIKE IT'S FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THAT IT FEELS WELCOMING.

AND SO THAT INCLUDES THE BEAUTIFUL OPEN LAWNS, UM, THAT YOU CAN SEE HERE.

LOTS OF WALKING TRAILS, VARYING WIDTHS FROM ANYWHERE FROM SEVEN FOOT TO 10 FOOT, UH, AND LOTS OF SHADE TREES.

UM, WE'RE EVEN MOVING SOME OF THE TREES THAT ARE THERE ON SITE, UM, TO ACCOMMODATE, UM, UH, SOME OF THE NEW SPACES AND IT'LL FEEL LIKE THERE'S LOTS OF INSTANT SHADE ON DAY ONE.

YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF BEAUTIFUL LAWN SPACE THAT WOULD BE USED FOR PICKUP GAMES OF FLAG FOOTBALL, UH, SOCCER, UM, WHATEVER ACTIVITIES OR UH, UH, EVENTS MAY HAPPEN BOTH AFFILIATED WITH THE BUILDING OR OTHERWISE.

AND THE PATHWAYS ARE REALLY CONNECTING ALL OF THESE SPACES THROUGHOUT.

AND SO THAT'S A, A REALLY IMPORTANT ADJECTIVE FOR THE, THE OPEN SPACE HERE IS CONNECTIVITY.

UM, AND THE, THE SPACE THAT FRANK SHOWED EARLIER, THE VERY BEAUTIFUL HARDSCAPE PLAZA WILL HAVE TWO WATER, UH, INTERACTIVE WATER FEATURES.

ONE OF THE ONES THAT YOU CAN PLAY IN, WHICH YOU CAN IMAGINE THIS TIME OF YEAR IS VERY ATTRACTIVE TO GO TO.

UM, THE OTHER ONE IS A, A REALLY BEAUTIFUL STATEMENT PIECE AS YOU'RE COMING INTO, UM, AND KIND OF WAYFINDING TO GET TO THE FRONT DOOR OF THE BUILDING.

UM, SO WITH THAT, I WILL HAND IT BACK OVER TO FRANK.

I'M HERE FOR QUESTIONS, SIR.

YOU HAVE A MINUTE.

30 SECONDS.

YEAH.

THANK YOU CLAIRE.

SO JUST IN CLOSING AGAIN, UM, WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT ANYONE MIGHT HAVE.

WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROGRAM.

I'M PERSONALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT BECAUSE I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT FOR SO LONG HERE AND I JUST THINK THIS IS GONNA BE GREAT FOR PLANO.

I THINK IT'S GONNA BE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS GONNA BE DIRECTLY INVOLVED.

THEY WANNA BUILD A BIG CENTER HERE, UH, OF EXCELLENCE FOR THEIR BIOLOGY AND CHEMISTRY AND ALL THE OTHER PIECES.

COLIN COLLEGE IS DIRECTLY INVOLVED, UH, WITH US AND IS TALKING.

WE'RE TALKING WITH THEM PRETTY MUCH ON A REGULAR BASIS.

AND I CAN JUST CLOSE WITH THIS, THAT THE USER COMMUNITY THAT'S OUT THERE REALLY SEES THIS AS A GATEWAY BETWEEN BOSTON AND SAN DIEGO.

WE HAVE A GREAT CHANCE HERE, YOU KNOW, IN NORTH TEXAS.

SO, UM, WE'LL BE ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE AT THE END.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, BEFORE WE GET THE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT, DO WE HAVE OTHER SPEAKERS ON THIS? NO, WE DO NOT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WELL, IN THAT CASE THEN, UH, I SEE COMMISSIONER RATLIFF, YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT? YES.

OKAY, SIR.

YES, SIR.

THANKS MR. ZANELLI.

UM, GREAT PRESENTATION.

UH, THANKS, WELL THOUGHT OUT.

LOOKS LIKE Y'ALL PUT A LOT OF EFFORT INTO IT, SO I APPRECIATE THE, THE DEPTH OF THE INFORMATION YOU PROVIDED.

COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

YOU'VE HEARD THE STAFF REPORT.

UM, THERE'S TWO, UH, OBVIOUSLY SINCE ON ALL THE PD LANGUAGE, I PRESUME THAT Y'ALL ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH ALL OF THE PD LANGUAGE THAT'S IN THE YES.

OKAY.

AND THEN THE TWO ADDITIONAL THINGS WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT, UM, THE 40 FOOT VERSUS 30 FOOT SETBACK, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THAT IS ACCEPTABLE TO Y'ALL AT THIS POINT? GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME'S NETTA HASANI.

I AM WITH KIMLEY

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HORN.

UM, THE ONLY CHALLENGE WE SEE WITH THAT IS THE, UH, WITHOUT AFFECTING THE DESIGN OF THE PARK, WE HAVE 20 FEET BETWEEN OUR BUILDING AND OUR LIMITS OF SIDEWALK ALONG THE QUASI PUBLIC STREET.

WE WOULD REQUEST TO KEEP THAT SPACE TO ALLOW FLEXIBILITY FOR ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING AND DRY UTILITIES.

I KNOW IT IS A VERY SPECIFIC REQUEST, BUT ON OTHER MID-RISE, OTHER MID-RISE RESIDENTIAL, UM, DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE HAVE DONE, OFTENTIMES WE FIND THAT IT'S HARD TO FIT IN GAS AND UNDERGROUND ELECTRIC AND TELECOM.

AND SO WE WOULD LIKE TO RESERVE THAT SPACE FOR, UM, THE DESIGN OF THE SET SET THINGS.

AND ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT, THE R UH, REASON WHY THERE IS A 30 TO 40 FOOT, UM, DIFFERENCE IS THAT THERE IS A, UH, THE PROPERTY LINE BASICALLY DOES LIKE AN L-SHAPE AND SO MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY WE'RE REALLY SITTING AT 40 FEET.

BUT WHERE WE HAVE THAT TIGHTER SPACE WHERE THE PROPERTY LINE, UM, GOES TO THE EAST A LITTLE BIT BY 10 FEET, THAT'S WHERE WE HIT THAT 30 FEET.

HEAR FROM MORE ANSWERS.

OKAY.

I'M FOLLOW, I HAVE TO LOOK AT THEIR SITE PLAN, BUT THAT, THAT'S, APPRECIATE THE EXPLANATION.

THE SECOND PART THAT THE STAFF RECOMMENDED AND ALL YOUR SITE PLANS AND ALL YOUR, THE PARK PLANNING AND EVERYTHING ELSE, Y'ALL ARE SHOWING ALL THE SAME GREEN SPACE THAT THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING BE ALSO DEDICATED AS PARKLAND.

IS THERE A REASON THAT Y'ALL WANT TO KEEP IT PRIVATE OR THAT YOU HAVE FUTURE PLANS FOR IT? OR WHAT IS YOUR REACTION TO THAT? UM, IS THAT THE, IS THAT THE YELLOW, UH, PIECE THAT WE HAD? RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THAT FROM OUR STANDPOINT, WE'RE BUILDING A, A PRETTY BIG PARK AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN OVER THE NEXT SEVEN YEARS.

UH, THIS IS A SEVEN YEAR PROGRAM.

IT'S GONNA BE DONE IN FOUR PHASES AND EACH PHASE IS GONNA BE ABOUT A BILLION DOLLARS OF, OF SPEND.

AND I JUST THINK FROM A LOT OF YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, IT'S WISE FOR US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP THAT ALIVE FOR A DAYCARE CENTER OR OTHER THINGS THAT COULD POP UP THAT ARE IMPORTANT THAT ULTIMATELY, UM, WE MAY NEED.

AND SO OUR POSITION IS, IS THAT WE THINK THE PARK IS ADEQUATE RIGHT NOW, AND IF WE LEAVE THAT IN KIND OF A GRAY ZONE TO BE DEALT WITH LATER, I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY OKAY WITH THAT.

BUT DESIGNATING IT TONIGHT IS OPEN SPACE.

I, I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE THE SMARTEST THING THAT WE COULD ALL DO.

I THINK THERE MAY BE A USE FOR THAT, THAT OF COURSE THE CITY WOULD APPROVE OR, OR NOT APPROVE, BUT, UH, WE THINK THE PARK IS REALLY ADEQUATE FROM AN OPEN SPACE.

THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF OPEN SPACE THERE.

SO THAT, THAT'S JUST OUR POSITION.

OKAY.

I JUST WANNA GET YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON IT.

THANK YOU.

YES, MR. BRUNO.

THANK YOU.

WE'LL, JUST FOLLOWING UP ON THAT LAST QUESTION, UM, WHAT WOULD YOU DO WITH THOSE ADDITIONAL TWO ACRES IN THE INTERIM BEFORE YOU, UM, REALIZE THERE'S A NEED FOR A DAYCARE CENTER OR WHATEVER? WELL, I, I THINK IT REALLY IS BUILT IN REALLY FOR FLEXIBILITY.

I THINK THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT IT, THE PARK CLAIRE IS HOW BIG NINE AND A HALF ACRES, NINE AND A HALF, NINE AND NINE AND NINE AND A HALF ACRES.

WE THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD SIZE PARK.

AND WE THINK THERE'S GONNA BE AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACES AS YOU GO TO PARKWOOD, YOU KNOW, THIS IS REALLY GONNA LOOK GREAT WHEN YOU'RE COMING DOWN.

YOU'RE GONNA SEE THESE WATER FEATURES, YOU'RE GONNA SEE THIS GIGANTIC PARK, YOU'RE GONNA SEE THIS PLAYGROUND FOR KIDS.

YOU KNOW, IT'S OPEN COMPLETELY TO THE PUBLIC.

I THINK OUR POSITION, SIR, HAS BEEN THAT WE THINK NINE AND A HALF ACRES AT THIS POINT IS A, IS A PRETTY GOOD, UM, AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE FOR RIGHT NOW.

WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT MY QUESTION IS IN THE INTERIM, WHAT HA WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN ON THOSE TWO ACRES? ARE THEY JUST GONNA BE A MOUND OF BARE DIRT? ARE YOU GONNA PLANT A LAWN THERE? NOT NOTHING UNTIL WE DECIDE WE'LL JUST PUT SOME GRASS THERE UNTIL WE DECIDE, COME BACK TO THE CITY, TAKE A LOOK AFTER PHASE ONE OF, OF WHERE WE MIGHT BE THERE.

MM-HMM.

THAT, THAT WAS OUR PLAN.

OKAY.

YOU COULD COME BACK TO THE CITY WHEN YOU DECIDE WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH IT.

WELL, WE'D HAVE TO COME BACK, GET APPROVAL YEAH.

APPROVAL AT THAT TIME.

YES.

YES.

AND IT COULD BE OPEN SPACE IN THE INTERIM, IT COULD BE OPEN, IT COULD END UP OPEN SPACE.

YES, SIR.

COMMISSIONER LEY, I GUESS A QUESTION TO THE CITY, CAN WE PUT IN A STIPULATION IN EITHER THE PD LANGUAGE TO, I DUNNO, FORCE IS A STRONG WORD, BUT TO FORCE THAT THOSE TWO ACRES, UM, BE NOT USED FOR SOMETHING LIKE ADDITIONAL THERAPEUTIC PRODUCTION BUILDING.

SO MAKING STUFF UP DESIGN-WISE, I KNOW IT, IT PROBABLY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO PUT IT THAT CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL, BUT COULD WE FORCE, UM, A STIPULATION THAT THE, UH, THOSE TWO ACRES COULD NOT BE USED FOR AN EXTENSION OF THE RESIDENTIAL,

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FOR INSTANCE? SO THERE ARE SOME, UM, RESTRICTIONS IN THE LANGUAGE.

RIGHT NOW, RESIDENTIAL HAS TO BE WITHIN 250 FEET OF PARKWOOD.

SO I BELIEVE THAT DOES NOT BLEED INTO THAT AREA CURRENTLY.

RIGHT.

UM, THE THERAPEUTIC PRODUCTION, THE, AGAIN, THE MANUFACTURING IS RESTRICTED, IT HAS TO BE 700 FEET AWAY FROM PARKWOOD, SO IT DOES LIMIT THE USE CURRENTLY IN THAT AREA.

IT WOULD BE ANOTHER, ANOTHER USE, ANOTHER COMMERCIAL USE THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD USE, WHICH WOULD BE ALLOWED IN THE DISTRICT, BUT IT COULD NOT BE MANUFACTURING AND IT CANNOT BE HOUSING AND, AND, AND, AND AGAIN, UH, WE WOULD BE FINE JUST LEAVING IT AT THIS POINT THAT WE CAN'T REALLY DO ANYTHING WITH IT.

WE'LL MAKE SURE IT LOOKS GOOD, WE'LL MAKE SURE THERE'S GRASS ON IT, UM, AND THEN COME BACK TO THE CITY IF WE THINK THAT WE NEED IT FOR SOME OTHER KIND OF USE.

AGAIN, WE THINK THE NINE AND A HALF ACRES, OUR ONLY POSITION IS WE THINK THE NINE AND A HALF ACRES IS AS SUFFICIENT AS AS, AS IT NEEDS TO BE IN TERMS OF THE OPEN SPACE WITH THE PARK.

THIS PARK IS GONNA BE A GREAT PARK.

I MEAN, WE ARE GONNA NOT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GONNA SPARE ANY EXPENSE.

THIS IS GONNA BE A REALLY COOL PART.

SO TOTALLY UNDERSTAND AND THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

THE PRESENTATION MAKES IT, IT LOOK, IT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL.

UM, ANYONE WHO HAS WATCHED ME AT BIAS HEAVILY TOWARDS MORE OPEN SPACE THAN ANYTHING ELSE.

UM, A QUESTION ON THE THERAPEUTIC PRODUCTION FACILITY.

YES, SIR.

UM, I'M TRYING TO TIE TO WHAT CHAIRMAN DOWNS TALKED ABOUT, THE MODERATE INTENSITY VERSUS WHAT I THINK OF AS, UH, THERAPEUTIC PRODUCTION.

I HAVE A BACHELOR'S IN APPLIED CHEMISTRY AND I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THAT REACHES WHAT, WHAT, WHAT'S BEEN PRODUCED THERE, WHICH WOULD PHARMACEUTICAL DRUGS AND, UH, THERAPIES FOR CELL AND GENE THERAPY THAT ARE DEVELOPED INSIDE THE, UH, EXISTING FACILITY IN THE INCUBATORS, IN THE LABS.

UM, EVERY UM, LIFE SCIENCE PROGRAM HAS A FORM OF THERAPEUTIC PRODUCTION AND WE THINK THAT WE COULD REALLY MAKE A HUGE CASE THAT A LOT OF IT SHOULD COME HERE TO TEXAS BECAUSE OF THE LABOR AND THE TAXES AND SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS.

AND WE WANNA BE ABLE TO BRING, UM, THAT OFF FROM OFFSHORE.

WE WANNA BE ABLE TO BUILD THAT IN THE UNITED STATES.

AND BECAUSE OF THE SIZE AND THE SCOPE OF NOT ONLY THE 91 ACRES, BUT THE OTHER 110 ACRES, WE'VE GOT THE ABILITY TO BUILD ABOUT 2.5 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF THIS THERAPEUTIC PRODUCTION.

AND WE THINK THE MARKET IS RAGING TO BE ABLE TO BUILD THAT IN THE CENTER OF THE COUNTRY.

AND SO THAT WAS PART AND PARCEL TO A LOT OF OUR PLANS.

YOU KNOW, REALLY IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE VERY CLEAN.

UH, IT'S GOT ALL THE AIR HANDLING, IT'S GOT 40 FOOT CLEARS INSIDE THE BUILDING AND IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE, IT'S GONNA BE THE, THE EQUIVALENT OF UH, A REAL CLEAN SPACE.

NOT NO, NO RAW MANUFACTURING AS WE THINK OF MANUFACTURING.

SO IT'S THE, PROBABLY THE FINE PARTICULATE MATTER PRODUCED OR THE AFFLUENT WASTE THAT TRIGGERS THE MODERATE INTENSITY CLASSIFICATION.

YES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, COMMISSIONER KERRY? YEAH, I'VE GOT A FEW QUESTIONS, SEVERAL, UH, FOR COMMENT.

FIRST I FIND THIS FASCINATING.

I'VE BEEN SITTING HERE FOR A COUPLE YEARS AND THIS IS ONE OF THE MORE INTERESTING PROJECTS I'VE SEEN WHILE I'VE BEEN SITTING IN HERE.

SO I JUST START WITH THAT.

UH, LET'S GO TO THE PARKS JUST TO KIND OF, UM, LEVEL SET NINE AND A HALF ACRES.

UM, ERIC, WHAT IS THE WINDHAVEN PARK WE PUT AT WINDHAVEN AND SPRING CREEK? DO WE KNOW? I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT NINE AND A HALF ACRE PARK IS COMPARED TO SOME THINGS