Jun 19, 2023 Planning and Zoning

THANK

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[CALL TO ORDER]

WE WILL NOW KICK OFF OUR JUNE 19TH REGULAR MEETING FOR P N Z AND I'VE GOT THE BOARD STANDING UP, SITTING DOWN.

NOT SURE WHAT I'M DOING.

UH, WE'RE GONNA PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST.

THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING IS TO ALLOW UP TO THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER WITH 30 TOTAL MINUTES ON ITEMS OF INTEREST OR CONCERN AND NOT ON ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE CURRENT AGENDA.

THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MAY NOT DISCUSS THESE ITEMS, BUT MAY RESPOND WITH FACTUAL OR POLICY INFORMATION.

THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA.

THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY MODIFY THESE TIMES AS DEEMED NECESSARY.

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? NO, WE DO NOT.

THANK YOU.

LET'S

[CONSENT AGENDA]

CONSENT AGENDA.

THE CONSENT AGENDA WILL BE ACTED UPON IN ONE MOTION AND CONTAINS ITEMS WHICH ARE ROUTINE AND TYPICALLY NON-CONTROVERSIAL ITEMS MAY BE REMOVED FROM THIS AGENDA FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION BY COMMISSIONERS OR STAFF.

THANK YOU.

WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO REMOVE AN ITEM FROM CONSENT AGENDA? SEEING NONE, I MOVE.

WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS SUBMITTED.

I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROSKY WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LYLE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

PLEASE VOTE MR. LYLE.

IT SHOWS IT DID.

IT SHOWS THAT IT DID.

THERE YOU GO.

THAT ITEM CARRIES BY A VOTE OF EIGHT TO ZERO.

WE HAVE ALL OF THIS TOGETHER FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A LITTLE WHILE.

MM-HMM.

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ITEM

[1. (RP) Public Hearing - Replat & Revised Site Plan: Willow Bend Polo Estates Phase B, Block B, Lot 17R - One Patio Home lot on 0.3 acre located on the west side of Old Westbury Lane, 85 feet north of Turtle Creek Drive. Zoned Planned Development-423- Patio Home. Projects #R2023-016 and #RSP2023-024. Applicant: NLW Trust (Administrative consideration)]

PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS UNLESS INSTRUCTED OTHERWISE BY THE CHAIR, SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED IN OR ORDER.

REGISTRATIONS ARE RECEIVED.

APPLICANTS ARE LIMITED TO A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES OF PRESENTATION TIME WITH A FIVE MINUTE REBUTTAL IF NEEDED.

REMAINING SPEAKERS ARE LIMITED TO 30 TOTAL MINUTES OF TESTIMONY TIME WITH THREE MINUTES ASSIGNED PER SPEAKER.

THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY MODIFY THESE TIMES AS DEEMED NECESSARY.

ADMINISTRATIVE CONSIDERATION ITEMS MUST BE APPROVED IF THEY MEET CITY DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.

LEGISLATIVE CONSIDERATION ITEMS ARE MORE DISCRETIONARY EXCEPT AS CONSTRAINED BY LEGAL CONSIDERATIONS.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE, PUBLIC HEARING RELA GRANITE PARK PHASE THREE, BLOCK B LOT SEVEN R.

PROFESSIONAL, GENERAL ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE ON ONE LOT ON 3.9 ACRES LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF STATE HIGHWAY 1 21 AND GRANITE PARKWAY ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT 42 CENTRAL BUSINESS ONE AND LOCATED WITHIN THE DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY AND STATE HIGHWAY 1 21 OVERLAY DISTRICTS.

APPLICANT IS GRANITE PARK FI.

SORRY, SIX LP.

THIS IS FOR ADMINISTRATIVE CONSIDERATION.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS, PARKER MCDOWELL, PLANNER WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT STAFF RECOMMENDS FOR THIS ITEM FOR APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE RECORDATION OF OFFSITE ACCESS, DRAINAGE AND SANITARY SEWER EASEMENTS BY SEPARATE INSTRUMENTS.

AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? UH, NO, WE DO NOT.

I'M SORRY.

YES, WE DO.

WE HAVE THE APP.

NO, I'M SORRY.

BACK IT UP.

.

WE DO NOT.

OKAY.

SORRY.

I GUESS WE HAVE NO SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.

WE DO NOT.

ALL RIGHT.

I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

CONFINED DISCUSSION AND COMMISSION.

COMMISSIONER BRUNO.

OH, THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.

I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER ONE, SUBJECT TO THE RECORDATION OF THE OFFSITE ACCESS DRAINAGE AND SANITARY SEWER EASEMENTS BY SEPARATE INSTRUMENTS.

SECOND.

SECOND.

OH, GO AHEAD, LADIES FIRST.

UM, .

I HAVE A MOTION BY MR. BRUNO, UH, WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER TONG TO APPROVE ITEM ONE AS SUBMITTED, PLEASE VOTE.

THAT ITEM CARRIES.

EIGHT TO ZERO.

THANK YOU.

[2. (PM) Public Hearing - Replat: Willow Bend Place, Block B, Lot 15R - One Single-Family Residence-20 lot on 2.4 acres located on the east side of Cavendish Court, 120 feet south of Chiswick Lake Drive. Zoned Single-Family Residence-20. Project #R2023-017. Applicant: Ross Bradley Jones and Sharon Anne Jones (Administrative consideration)]

APPLICANT IS ROSS BRADLEY JONES AND SHARON ANN JONES.

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STAFF RECOMMENDS THIS ITEM FOR APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ITEM? I DO QUESTION COMMISSIONER KERRY? NO.

UM, MAYBE I'M JUST MISSING IT.

I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO HERE.

UM, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT ARE THEY TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH? YEAH, SO THEY ARE REDOING THE, UH, DRAINAGE AND FLOODWAY EASEMENT AS WELL AS THE ACCESS TO THAT EASEMENT.

AND I BELIEVE ENGINEERING SAID THERE WAS A NEW CHANGE TO THE FLOOD STUDY OUT THERE, AND THAT'S WHY THEY HAD TO DO THIS, TO REDO THOSE BOUNDARIES.

GREAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WE DO NOT HAVE ANY REGISTERED SPEAKERS.

I DIDN'T HAVE TO ASK.

ALL RIGHT.

I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I MOVE.

WE APPROVE THIS AS SUBMITTED.

I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BRONSKI WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER KERRY TO APPROVE ITEM TWO AS SUBMITTED, PLEASE VOTE.

THAT ITEM CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO.

ITEM THREE, AGENDA ITEM

[3. (PM) Public Hearing - Replat: Central Plano Industrial Park Phase 1, Block 1, Lot 2R - Office showroom/warehouse on one lot on 5.3 acres located at the northeast corner of Stewart Avenue and Summit Avenue. Zoned Light Industrial-1. Project #R2023-018. Applicant: Stewart EPA, LLC (Administrative consideration)]

ZONED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ONE APPLICANT IS STEWART, E P A L L C.

THIS IS FOR ADMINISTRATIVE CONSIDERATION.

STAFF RECOMMENDS THE ITEM FOR APPROVAL.

I SUBMITTED.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

SHOULD YOU JUST STAY UP THERE? THIS IS MY LAST ITEM.

OH, OKAY.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ITEM? OKAY, YOU'RE FREE TO GO.

I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? UH, THE APPLICANT IS AVAILABLE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION.

THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

REMOVE, WE APPROVE ITEM THREE AS SUBMITTED.

THANK YOU.

SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RATLIFF WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BRONSKI TO APPROVE.

ITEM THREE AS SUBMITTED, PLEASE VOTE.

THAT ITEM CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO.

MOVING RIGHT ALONG.

ITEM FOUR,

[4. (DS) Public Hearing - Preliminary Replat: The Plaza at Chase Oaks, Block A, Lot 3R - Independent living facility on one lot on 6.1 acres located on the south side of Chase Oaks Boulevard, 1,128 feet west of U.S. Highway 75. Zoned Corridor Commercial and Planned Development-277-Retail/General Office with Specific Use Permit No. 24 for Independent Living Facility. Project #PR2022-011. Applicant: Unified Housing Foundation, Inc. (Administrative consideration)]

THREE R INDEPENDENT FAMILY FACILITY ON ONE LOT ON 6.1 ACRES LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF CHASE OAKS BOULEVARD, 1,128 FEET WEST OF US HIGHWAY 75 ZONE CORRIDOR COMMERCIAL AND PLAN DEVELOPMENT 2 77 RETAIL GENERAL OFFICE WITH SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 24 FOR INDEPENDENT LIVING FACILITY, APPLICANT IS UNIFIED HOUSING FOUND FOUNDATION INCORPORATED.

THIS IS FOR ADMINISTRATIVE CONSIDERATION.

GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIR.

MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.

I'M ROHA PILATE, THE PLANNER OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

STAFF, UM, RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PRELIMINARY REPLA SUBJECT TO ADDITIONS AND OR ALTERATIONS TO THE ENGINEERING PLANS AS, UH, REQUIRED BY THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

THANK YOU.

UH, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? NO, WE DO NOT.

I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, THEN FIND DISCUSSION TO THE COMMISSION.

MR. BRUNO? MOTION.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE.

WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER FOUR, SUBJECT TO ADDITIONS AND OR ALTERATIONS TO THE ENGINEERING PLANS AS REQUIRED BY THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.

I SECOND THAT SECOND.

I MISSED SOMETHING OVER HERE.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER BRUNO MAKES THE MOTION TO APPROVE.

ITEM FOUR, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ALI, PLEASE VOTE THAT ITEM CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO.

MR. CARRIE'S OVER HERE STEALING THE FAN.

DID I TAKE IT AWAY FROM IT'S FINE.

I, I I'M, NO, NO, NO, NO.

WE'RE GOOD.

AGENDA ITEM

[5. (RP) Public Hearing - Preliminary Replat & Revised Site Plan: Parkway Square, Block 1, Lot 1R - Professional/general administrative office on one lot on 4.2 acres located at the northeast corner of Plano Parkway and F Avenue. Zoned Corridor Commercial and located within the 190 Tollway/Plano Parkway Overlay District. Projects #PR2023-004 and #RSP2023-007. Applicant: Dallas North Industrial, LLC (Administrative consideration)]

PARKWAY SQUARE BLOCK ONE LOT ONE R PROFESSIONAL, GENERAL ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE ON ONE LOT ON 4.2 ACRES LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF PLANO PARKWAY AND F AVENUE ZONE CORRIDOR COMMERCIAL AND LOCATED WITHIN THE ONE 90 TOLLWAY PLANO PARKWAY OVERLAY DISTRICT.

APPLICANT IS DALLAS NORTH INDUSTRIAL L L C.

THIS IS FOR ADMINISTRATIVE CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU.

MS. BRIDGES.

UM, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PRELIMINARY

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AND AS FOR THE REVISED SITE PLAN, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL IS SUBMITTED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ITEM? MR. LA MICROPHONE PLEASE.

THANK YOU.

WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS RELA? SURE.

UM, THIS SITE PLAN AND PRELIMINARY RELA WAS INITIATED, UH, BY DART AS THEY ARE, UM, ESTABLISHING AN EASEMENT ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY.

THANK YOU.

SURE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? NO, WE DO NOT.

THANK YOU.

CLOSE THE PUBLIC.

CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MR. RAT.

MAKE A MOTION.

WE APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY RELA SUBJECT TO ADDITIONS OR ALTERATIONS BY THE ENGINEERING PLANS AS REQUIRED BY THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND THE REVISED SITE PLAN AS SUBMITTED.

SECOND, HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RATLIFF AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BRONSKI TO APPROVE ITEM FIVE.

UM, AS INDICATED, PLEASE VOTE.

AND THAT ITEM CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO.

AGENDA

[6. (RP) Public Hearing - Preliminary Replat & Revised Site Plan: Presbyterian Hospital of Plano, Block A, Lot 1R - Hospital, medical office, day care center, and heliport on one lot on 36.9 acres located at the southwest corner of Parker Road and Communications Parkway. Zoned Planned Development-427-General Office located within the Parkway Overlay District with Special Use Permits No. 141 for Heliport, No. 142 for Day Care Center, and No. 143 for Hospital. Projects #PR2023-014 and #RSP2023-040. Applicant: Texas Health Plano (Administrative consideration)]

PRESBYTERIAN HOSPITAL OF PLANO BLOCK A LOT.

ONE R HOSPITAL, MEDICAL OFFICE, DAYCARE CENTER AND HELIPORT ON ONE LOT ON TH 36.9 ACRES.

LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF PARKER ROAD AND COMMUNICATIONS PARKWAY ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT 4 27 GENERAL OFFICE LOCATED WITHIN THE PLANO OVERLAY DISTRICT WITH SPECIAL USE PERMITS.

NUMBER 1 41 FOR HELIPORT, NUMBER 1 42 FOR DAYCARE CENTER.

AND NUMBER 1 43 FOR HOSPITAL.

APPLICANT IS TEXAS HEALTH PLANO.

THIS IS FOR ADMINISTRATIVE CONSIDERATION.

OKAY.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PRELIMINARY REVIEW PLUS SUBJECT TO ADDITIONS AND ALTERATIONS TO THE ENGINEERING PLANS AS REQUIRED, REQUIRED BY THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND ALSO FOR THE REVISED SIDE.

PLAN.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REVISED SITE PLAN AS SUBMITTED.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

SEEING NONE, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? NO, WE DO NOT.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, FIND DISCUSSION OF THE COMMISSION.

MR. BRUNO? MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE.

WE APPROVE, UH, THE PRELIMINARY REPLANT IN THIS ITEM, UH, SUBJECT TO ADDITIONS AND OUR ALTERATIONS TO THE ENGINEERING PLANS AS REQUIRED BY THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, AND THAT WE APPROVE THE REVISED SITE PLAN, UM, AS SUBMITTED.

THANK YOU.

I HAVE A MOTION BY MR. BRUNO WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RATLIFF TO APPROVE ITEM SIX AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.

PLEASE VOTE MR. BRUNSKI.

THERE WE GO.

AND THAT ITEM CARRIES EIGHT TO ZERO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS TAKE A PAUSE FOR A SECOND.

JUST ONE SECOND.

SURE.

SO, UM, NO LONG, I'M JUST HERE TO SPEAK.

YES, THAT'S JUST FINE.

OKAY.

WE'RE GONNA MAKE, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT SEVERAL PEOPLE HERE TO SPEAK ON A PARTICULAR ITEM, UH, AND WE HAVE SOME OTHER ITEMS THAT WE HAVE TO GET SOME LENGTHY REPORTS ON.

I'M GONNA CHANGE THE SEQUENCING JUST A LITTLE BIT.

I KNOW I'M THROWING YOU A CURVE BALL.

UM, WE'RE GONNA MOVE FROM ITEM SIX DOWN TO ITEM 10, WHICH IS A NON-PUBLIC HEARING ITEM.

BUT WE DO HAVE PRESENTERS ON THIS.

AND SINCE THEY DON'T NEED TO SIT HERE FOR 30 MINUTES LISTENING TO US TALK ABOUT ITEMS NOT RELATED TO THAT, I THOUGHT, UH, WITH THE TEMPERATURE IN THE ROOM, WE JUST GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT SO THAT WE CAN GET THROUGH THAT PIECE AND THEN THEY WOULD BE FREE TO GO HOME.

SO LET'S

[10. (JR) Discussion and Action: Call for Public Hearing - Request to call a public hearing to consider amending the Zoning Ordinance to add Commercial Drone Delivery Hub as a new land use classification and to amend the definitions of Heliport and Helistop to include provisions for advanced air mobility aircraft. Project #CPH2023-009. Applicant: City of Plano (Legislative consideration)]

SINCE THIS IS AUB NON-PUBLIC HEARING, TWO THREE NON-PUBLIC HEARING ITEM, THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL PERMIT LIMITED PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA NOT POSTED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.

PRESIDING OFFICER WILL ESTABLISH TIME LIMITS BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKER REQUESTS, LENGTH OF THE INGEN AGENDA, AND TO ENSURE MEETING EFFICIENCY AND MAY INCLUDE A TOTAL TIME LIMIT AGENDA.

ITEM NUMBER 10 IS DISCUSSION AND ACTION.

CALL FOR PUBLIC HEARING.

REQUEST TO CALL A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE TO ADD COMMERCIAL DRONE DELIVERY HUB AS A NEW LAND USE CLASSIFICATION.

AND TO AMEND THE DE DEFINITIONS OF HELIPORT AND HELI STOP TO INCLUDE PROVISIONS FOR

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APPLICANT IS CITY OF PLANO.

THIS IS FOR LEGISLATIVE CONSIDERATION.

HI, UH, JORDANY SENIOR PLANNER WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

UH, SO AS MENTIONED, THIS IS A, UH, DISCUSSION AND ACTION REQUESTING A CALL FOR PUBLIC HEARING RELATED TO COMMERCIAL DRONE DELIVERY AS WELL AS ADVANCED AIR MOBILITY.

UM, WE HAVE BEEN TO THE COMMISSION BEFORE ON THIS ITEM.

AS A QUICK, UH, PIECE OF HISTORY.

THIS WAS INITIATED LAST YEAR IN JUNE WHEN STAFF RECEIVED AN INQUIRY ABOUT OPERATING A DRONE DELIVERY BUSINESS WITHIN THE CITY.

UH, WE PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON OCTOBER 3RD OF LAST YEAR WHERE YOU GUYS HAD LOTS OF QUESTIONS FOR US.

UH, SO WE WENT BACK TO GET MORE INFORMATION.

UM, AND NOW WE'RE BACK HERE WITH MORE INFORMATION AS WELL AS, UH, SOME OF THE, UH, DRONE DELIVERY OPERATORS, UM, IN THE AREA ARE AT THE MEETING TONIGHT TO, UH, ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS AS WELL.

SO, UH, DRONES ARE FORMALLY KNOWN AS UNMANNED OR UN CREWED AIR AIRCRAFT SYSTEMS, WHICH IS ABBREVIATED TO, UH, UA OR UAS.

UM, THROUGHOUT THIS PRESENTATION, I'M JUST GONNA USE THE WORD DRONE TO REFER TO THEM, BUT WITHIN ANY ORDINANCE, WE SHOULD USE THE TERM UNMANNED AIRCRAFT SYSTEM AS THAT ALIGNS WITH, UM, FEDERAL AND STATE, UH, REGULATIONS.

UH, DRONES ARE USED IN A VARIETY OF COMMERCIAL AND NON-COMMERCIAL SECTORS.

UH, TODAY THE FOCUS IS ON DELIVERY DRONES.

UH, THESE ARE GENERALLY LESS THAN 55 POUNDS IN WEIGHT DUE TO FEDERAL REGULATIONS, BUT THERE ARE SOME EXCEPTIONS.

UH, THESE DRONES VARY IN THEIR SIZE AND THEIR DESIGN AS SHOWN BY THE FOUR EXAMPLES ON SCREEN.

UH, ALL FOUR OF THESE ARE CURRENTLY IN USE IN TEXAS, AND I THINK THERE IS GONNA BE SOME SHOW AND TELL LATER WITH ONE OF THEM.

UH, DELIVERY DRONES TYPICALLY FULFILL A LAST MILE LOGISTICS FUNCTION WITH AN EMPHASIS ON ON DEMAND SERVICE DUE TO THEIR SPEED AND AUTONOMY.

THEY MAY ALSO BE USED TO FERRY GOODS BETWEEN LOCATIONS SUCH AS WAREHOUSES AND DISTRIBUTION CENTERS.

UH, CURRENT OPERATORS IN TEXAS DELIVER PACKAGES UP TO 10 POUNDS, TYPICALLY WITHIN A ONE TO FOUR MILE RADIUS.

HOWEVER, LARGER SERVICE AREAS ARE ALREADY POSSIBLE WITH CURRENT TECHNOLOGY.

DRONES ARE CONSIDERED AIRCRAFT, AND AS SUCH ARE REGULATED BY THE FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION, THE FAA OF ALL THE REGULATIONS IN PLACE.

THE TWO IMPORTANT ONES TO KNOW, UH, TONIGHT ARE, UH, CODE OF FEDERAL REGULATIONS, PART 1 0 7 AND PART 1 35.

PART 1 0 7.

UM, ESTABLISHES RULES FOR THE OPERATION OF SMALL UNMANNED AIRCRAFT SYSTEMS, WHICH ARE DRONES ON 55 POUNDS OF TAKEOFF WEIGHT.

AND, UH, PART 1 35 IS THE, UM, LICENSING AND CERTIFICATION REGIME FOR ON DEMAND AND COMMUTER AIRCRAFT SYSTEMS. IT'S INTENDED FOR CARGO AND CHARTER AIRLINES, BUT IT HAS HAD DRONES SHOEHORNED INTO IT AS THE BEST AVAILABLE OPTION AT THE MOMENT.

THERE IS A LOT OF LEGISLATION INTRODUCED IN BOTH THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES AND THE US SENATE REGARDING DRONES.

MOST OF IT IS ABOUT WORKFORCE TRAINING, UM, NATIONAL SECURITY, AND ESTABLISHING WORKING GROUPS TO FURTHER ADVANCE OUR REGULATIONS.

THERE ARE A COUPLE PIECES OF POTENTIAL LEGISLATION WHICH WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY OVERHAUL THE REGULATORY REGIME AS WELL AS THE CERTIFICATION PROCESS, UM, FOR, UM, COMMERCIAL DRONES AT THE STATE LEVEL.

UH, GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 4 23 REGULATES THE USE OF DRONES IN TEXAS.

UH, ONE OF THESE SECTIONS IN THIS CHAPTER SPECIFICALLY, UM, RESTRICTS MUNICIPALITIES FROM, UM, ADOPTING AND ENFORCING ORDINANCES THAT REGULATE THE OPERATION OF DRONES.

UH, AND SECTIONS ON PRIVACY AND SURVEILLANCE WERE STRUCK DOWN FROM THIS SECTION.

UM, LAST YEAR THERE WERE NO, UH, SIGNIFICANT DRONE RELATED ITEMS IN THE LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

SO TO SUMMARIZE, UM, FAA PREEMPTION COVERS AIRCRAFT IN FLIGHT AND THE STATE FORBIDS US FROM REGULATING THE OPERATION OF A DRONE.

THEREFORE, WE CANNOT REGULATE FLIGHT PATHS, FLIGHT ALTITUDES, THE NUMBER OF FLIGHTS PER DAY SAFETY OR TRAINING REQUIREMENTS OR WHAT IS BEING CARRIED, UH, BY A DRONE.

UH, BASED ON THE DISCUSSION WITH THE FAA, THE OPERATOR OF A PRIVATE AIRFIELD, SUCH AS A DRONE LANDING ZONE, CAN PLACE RESTRICTIONS ON THE SIZE OF AIRCRAFT AND THE HOURS OF OPERATION OF THAT AIRFIELD.

SO THESE MAY BE WITHIN OUR AREA TO REGULATE.

UM, HOWEVER, IT'S UNCLEAR TO WHAT EXTENT THE STATE'S PREEMPTION MIGHT LIMIT THIS.

UH, THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT THE LOCATION OF GROUND SIDE FACILITIES, SUCH AS LANDING AREAS, SHOULD BE WITHIN THE CITY'S CONTROL THROUGH THE TYPICAL LAND USE AND ZONING POWERS.

UH,

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UM, THESE ARE ALL COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE ACTIVE, UH, DRONE DELIVERIES WITHIN THEIR BORDERS.

SO DRONES ARE ALREADY BUSY DELIVERING GOODS.

UM, IN TEXAS, IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA, MOST MUNICIPALITIES ARE TREATING DRONES AS AN UNLISTED USE, UM, AS IF IT'S ANY OTHER DELIVERY ACTIVITIES SUCH AS UBER EATS OR DOORDASH.

UM, SO FAR ONLY ALAN AND THE COLONY HAVE DETERMINED OTHERWISE AND REQUIRE AN S U P FOR A HELIPORT LAND USE.

UH, RICHARDSON MAY ALSO MAKE THIS DETERMINATION.

THEY ARE CURRENTLY, UH, REVIEWING THIS TOPIC AS WELL.

UH, STAFF ARE ABLE TO LOCATE THREE COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE ADDED, UM, DRONE HUBS TO THEIR, UH, ZONING OR DEVELOPMENT CODES.

UM, THOSE BEING LBN, UH, MICHIGAN COLLEGE PARK, GEORGIA, AND COLLEGE STATION, TEXAS.

UM, THEY HAVE ALL TAKEN DIFFERENT APPROACHES TO THIS.

SO THERE'S NO ONE UNIFIED APPROACH THAT HAS BEEN OBSERVED.

SO I'M GONNA TAKE A QUICK PAUSE HERE AND MAKE SURE I STILL HAVE EVERYONE CUZ IT HAS BEEN A BIT OF AN INFO DUMP.

SO, UH, STAFF ARE REQUESTING DIRECTION FROM THE COMMISSION ON ADDING COMMERCIAL DELIVERY DRONE HUBS AS A LAND USE TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

THIS WOULD INCLUDE BOTH A DEFINITION AND ASSOCIATED STANDARDS.

THE PROPOSED DEFINITION ON SCREEN IS LARGELY SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS PRESENTED IN OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR, AND IS BASED ON THE EXISTING DEFINITION FOR THE HELIPORT LAND USE.

UH, THE IMAGES ON SCREEN SHOW VARIOUS ACTUAL AND CONCEPTUAL COMMERCIAL DRONE DELIVERY HUBS, AND THEY ARE JUST AS VARIED AS THE DRONES THAT THEY, UH, ARE BUILT FOR IN TERMS OF POTENTIAL LOCATIONS.

UH, COMMERCIAL DRONE DELIVERY HUBS, UM, ARE GENERALLY COMPLIMENTARY TO EXISTING LAND USES AND THEREFORE STAFF ARE PROPOSING TO PERMIT THEM ACCESSORY TO VARIOUS RETAIL TYPE USES, SUCH AS RESTAURANTS AND SHOPPING CENTERS, AS WELL AS TO WAREHOUSES.

THEY MAY ALSO BE CONSIDERED AS A PRIMARY USE IN THE, UH, CE L I ONE AND I TWO DISTRICTS.

THESE ARE THREE DISTRICTS THAT ALREADY PERMIT THE, UH, WAREHOUSE AND DISTRIBUTION CENTER LAND USE.

SO THE NEXT THREE SLIDES ARE SOME MAPS.

WE HAVE THESE HERE SO WE CAN REFER BACK TO THEM LATER IF NEEDED.

SO THIS MAP SHOWS ALL OF THE DISTRICTS WHERE THOSE RETAIL AND WAREHOUSING, UM, USES ARE PERMITTED WITH SOME, UH, GRAY AREAS SHOWING POTENTIAL, UM, SERVICE AREAS.

SO THE DARKER GRAY IS A ONE MILE BUFFER.

THE LIGHTER GRAY IS A TWO MILE BUFFER.

AND SO THIS IS WHERE AN ACCESSORY USE MAY BE APPROPRIATE.

UH, NEXT MAP TELLS THE SAME STORY, BUT ABOUT WAREHOUSE AND DISTRIBUTION CENTER USES.

SO THERE'S ONLY FOUR DISTRICTS THAT ALLOW THOSE USES.

AND AGAIN, THE DARKER GRAY IS ONE MILE LIGHTER GRAY, TWO MILES, AND IN THIS CASE THE LIGHTEST GRAY IS A FOUR MILE RADIUS FROM THOSE DISTRICTS.

AND THEN THE LAST MAP BEING A COMBINATION OF THE TWO.

SO EVERYTHING IN RED IS WHERE, UM, STAFF ARE SUGGESTING THAT IT BE, UM, CONSIDERED AS AN ACCESSORY USE TO A RETAIL OR WAREHOUSE TYPE USE.

AND THE PURPLE BEING WHERE IT COULD BE EITHER ACCESSORY TO ONE OF THOSE USES OR AS A PRIMARY USE OF THE PROPERTY.

SO IN TERMS OF POTENTIAL REGULATIONS, UM, SOME LAND USES IN THE CITY HAVE USE SPECIFIC REGULATIONS IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

UH, STAFF HAVE IDENTIFIED THREE CATEGORIES OF POTENTIAL USE, SPECIFIC REGULATIONS, THOSE BEING NOISE AND ADJACENCY SCREENING AND LOT COVERAGE.

UH, STAFF ARE SEEKING DIRECTION ON WHICH OF SEVERAL OPTIONS TO PURSUE.

UM, ALL OF THOSE OPTIONS ARE DETAILED IN THE STAFF REPORT AND THE LETTERING ON THESE SLIDES CORRESPONDS TO THOSE TABLES AND THE STAFF REPORT FOR EASE OF REFERENCE.

SO IN TERMS OF NOISE AND ADJACENCY, UM, THE LOCATION OF TAKEOFF AND LANDING AREAS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED TO REDUCE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES, ESPECIALLY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS.

THIS REQUIREMENT COULD BE IDENTICAL OR JUST SIMILAR TO OPEN STORAGE.

UH, STAFF ARE RECOMMENDING A SIMILAR APPROACH THAT IS RESTRICTING TAKEOFF AND LANDING AREAS FROM BEING LOCATED WITHIN BUILDING SETBACKS REQUIRED PARKING SPACES AND FIRELANDS AND OTHER MANEUVERING AISLES OR WITHIN EASEMENTS, UH, IN THE ORDINANCE.

OPEN STORAGE IS ALSO RESTRICTED FROM THOSE AREAS.

UM, BUT IN ADDITION IS NOT PERMITTED IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING.

IN CERTAIN DISTRICTS, UH, STAFF FIELD, THIS MAY BE TOO RESTRICTIVE FOR TAKEOFF

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IN MANY OF OUR, UM, RETAIL DISTRICTS ALSO RELATED TO NOISE AND ADJACENCY IS A MINIMUM SETBACK BETWEEN THE TAKEOFF AND LANDING AREA AND SENSITIVE USES.

SO STAFF HAVE IDENTIFIED THREE OPTIONS, UM, FOR CONSIDERATION THOSE BEING A 150 FOOT SETBACK, WHICH WOULD BE EQUIVALENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY STANDARDS 300 FEET, WHICH WOULD BE EQUIVALENT TO OUR PRIVATE CLUB, UM, RESTRICTIONS.

AND 1000 FEET, WHICH IS THE SAME AS THE RESTRICTION FOR HELIPORTS.

UH, STAFF RECOMMEND 150 FEET, UM, BECAUSE THE NOISE GENERATED BY DRONES IS MORE OR LESS SIMILAR TO THOSE OTHER, UH, NOISE GENERATING USES IN THE RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY STANDARDS SUCH AS CAR WASHES.

UH, FOR SCREENING, UM, THE COMMISSION SHOULD CONSIDER WHETHER THIS IS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS USE.

UM, AT GRADE, THE TAKEOFF AND LANDING AREA COULD BE SCREENED SIMILAR TO OPEN STORAGE, UM, WHICH REQUIRES A MASONRY SCREENING WALL AROUND THE ENTIRE AREA.

HOWEVER, THIS WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT ON THE PART OF THE OPERATOR AND WOULD ALSO POSE A NAVIGATIONAL HAZARD FOR THEIR AIRCRAFT.

UH, STAFF RECOMMEND REQUIRING SCREENING ONLY IF STRUCTURES AND EQUIPMENT THAT WOULD OTHERWISE BE CONSIDERED OPEN STORAGE ARE PROPOSED.

SO THIS WOULD INCLUDE THINGS SUCH AS PORTABLE GENERATORS OR SHIPPING CONTAINERS WHEN A TAKEOFF AND LANDING AREA IS LOCATED ON TOP OF A BUILDING, STAFF ARE RECOMMENDING REQUIRING A PARAPET WALL SIMILAR TO THE EXISTING REQUIREMENTS FOR COMMERCIAL ANTENNAS AND OTHER ROOFTOP EQUIPMENT.

FINALLY, THE COMMISSION MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE RESTRICTIONS ON THE SIZE OF THE TAKEOFF AND LANDING AREA, WHICH WOULD INDIRECTLY CONTROL THE VOLUME OF FLIGHTS.

ONE OPTION IS TO PLACE A LIMIT ON THE NUMBER OF LANDING PADS WITHIN THE TAKEOFF AND LANDING AREA.

HOWEVER, THIS MAY BE VERY DIFFICULT TO ENFORCE AND STAFF DON'T RECOMMEND PURSUING THIS.

A MORE ENFORCEABLE RESTRICTION WOULD BE BASED ON LOT COVERAGE, AGAIN, SIMILAR TO EXISTING REQUIREMENTS FOR OPEN STORAGE IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE, UH, STAFF ARE RECOMMENDING A 5%, UH, OF SITE COVERAGE, WHICH IS THE SAME AS OPEN STORAGE.

HOWEVER, WE ALSO RECOMMEND A WAIVING THIS CONDITION FOR, UM, TAKEOFF AND LANDING AREAS THAT ARE LOCATED ON THE ROOF OF THE PRIMARY BUILDING IN ORDER TO INCENTIVIZE THIS DESIGN.

AND BECAUSE THE FAA MAKES A DISTINCTION FOR SMALL DRONES UNDER 55 POUNDS, IT IS WORTH CONSIDERING WHETHER A LESS RESTRICTIVE LAND USE MAY BE APPROPRIATE FOR THESE SMALL AND LESS NOISY AIRCRAFT.

THIS WOULD REQUIRE TWO LAND USE DEFINITIONS WITH A SMALL ONLINE AIRCRAFT HUB, PERHAPS REQUIRING A LOWER SETBACK, UM, OR BE PERMITTED WITHOUT AN S U P.

SO WHEN DISCUSSING THE PROSPECTIVE LAND USE AND ASSOCIATED REGULATIONS, THERE ARE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS TO KEEP IN MIND.

THERE ARE A HOST OF COMMERCIAL OPERATORS THAT ARE NOT ENGAGED IN PACKAGE DELIVERY, SUCH AS COMMERCIAL PHOTOGRAPHY, SURVEYING INSPECTIONS AND AGRICULTURE.

THERE ARE ALSO DELIVERIES THAT ARE NOT COMMERCIAL IN NATURE, SUCH AS THE DELIVERY OF AEDS TO FIRST RESPONDERS OR THE MOVEMENT OF SAMPLES TO A TESTING FACILITY OR EVEN THE DELIVERY OF BOOKS FROM A LOCAL LIBRARY.

ANY REGULATION SHOULD BE CAREFULLY TARGETED TO THE LAND USE THAT THE COMMISSION WISHES TO REGULATE.

FINALLY, THERE IS THE RELATED TOPIC OF AIR TAXIS, WHICH ARE FORMALLY KNOWN AS ADVANCED AIR MOBILITY.

AND AGAIN, A QUICK CHECK IN HERE CUZ IT HAS BEEN A BIT OF AN INFO DUMP.

I STILL HAVE EVERYONE.

THANKS.

SO SIMPLY PUT, UM, ADVANCED AIR MOBILITY ABBREVIATED AS A A M IS A TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM USING ELECTRIC OR LOW CARBON AIRCRAFT TO QUICKLY TRANSPORT PEOPLE OR CARGO OVER RELATIVELY SHORT DISTANCES AT LOWER ALTITUDES COMPARED TO CONVENTIONAL AIRCRAFT.

UM, THE CURRENT DEFINITION, UM, FROM FEDERAL REGULATION AS WELL AS THE, UH, DEFINITION ADOPTED BY TEXAS ARE BOTH ON SCREEN FOR REFERENCE.

THERE ARE CURRENTLY NO A A M OPERATIONS, UM, IN THE UNITED STATES.

THIS IS EXPECTED TO CHANGE BY 2025.

UM, IT'S ANTICIPATED THAT THE FIRST PUBLICLY AVAILABLE AAM SERVICE WILL DEBUT AT THE PARIS OLYMPICS NEXT YEAR.

UM, WITH SERVICE IN THE UNITED STATES FOLLOWING IN 2025 IN ORLANDO AND CHICAGO, POSSIBLY LOS ANGELES AND NEW YORK CITY AS WELL, THE FAA EXPECTS OPERATIONS, UH, IN THE STATES TO INITIALLY USE EXISTING HELIPORT INFRASTRUCTURE.

UM, WHILE OVER TIME, NEW PURPOSE-BUILT FACILITIES REFERRED TO AS VERTI PORTS, UH, WILL BE BUILT.

UH, THERE

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IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT AAM OPERATIONS, ESPECIALLY IN THE NEAR FUTURE, ARE NOT GOING TO BE AUTOMATED AND THEY'RE NOT DOOR TO DOOR.

SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS NOT SUMMONING A DRONE TAXI TO A RESTAURANT TO TAKE YOU HOME ON A FRIDAY NIGHT.

YOU WOULD BE GOING FROM A HELIPORT OR A VERDE PORT TO ANOTHER HELIPORT OR A VERDE PORT.

UM, THE COMPANIES THAT ARE PROPOSING THIS ARE CURRENTLY INTEGRATING WITH OTHER COMPANIES.

SO FOR INSTANCE, ONE CHAIN INVOLVES UBER AND AAM OPERATOR AND DELTA AIRLINES TO MOVE YOU FROM YOUR HOUSE TO APORT TO THE AIRPORT.

SO AS WITH DRONES, THE FAA IS THE AUTHORITY ON AIRCRAFT.

UM, THE STATE IS ALSO INVOLVED AS AIRCRAFT ARE INCLUDED IN THE TRANSPORTATION CODE.

IT IS MOSTLY LIMITED TO THE LOCATION OF AIRPORTS AND HELIPORTS, THOUGH THERE'S A LOT OF MOVEMENT AT BOTH LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT TO INTRODUCE REGULATIONS, AGAIN, INCLUDING WORKING GROUPS.

UM, AND THESE HAVE BEEN TASKED WITH DETERMINING THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF EACH LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT, INCLUDING MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENTS.

SO, UM, TEXAS ADOPTED, UM, A BILL IN THE LAST SESSION THAT WE'LL SEE A WORKING GROUP ESTABLISHED IN SEPTEMBER OF THIS YEAR, UH, AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL.

THEY ADOPTED A BILL LAST YEAR AND THAT WORKING GROUP, UH, WAS STRUCK IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR.

SO THEY'RE, THEY'VE STARTED THEIR WORK TO KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHO, UM, HAS SAY IN WHAT AREAS.

SO IN THIS INTERIM PERIOD, UM, STAFF ARE SUGGESTING JUST A MINOR AMENDMENT TO OUR DEFINITION OF HELIPORT AND HELI STOP.

UM, BOTH OF THESE REFER EXPLICITLY TO HELICOPTERS, WHICH INCLUDES SOME AAM AIRCRAFT, BUT NOT ALL AMENDING.

THIS DEFINITION WOULD IMPACT, UM, NINE SITES IN THE CITY, WHICH EITHER HAVE A PERMISSION BY S U P OR PD TO OPERATE A HEIST STOP OR ARE LOCATED WITHIN THE CE UH, DISTRICT WHERE HEIST STOP IS PERMITTED BY.

RIGHT.

NOT ALL OF THESE LOCATIONS ON SCREEN ARE ACTIVE.

UM, I THINK THERE'S TWO OF THEM ON HERE THAT ARE DEFUNCT.

SO AS A POTENTIAL AMENDED DEFINITION, STAFF ARE SUGGESTING TO JUST STRIKE THE WORD HELICOPTER AND REPLACE IT WITH ROTARY WING AND TILT ROTOR PASSENGER AIRCRAFT.

THIS WOULD BE, UM, CONSISTENT WITH SOME OF OUR PEER MUNICIPALITIES IN, UH, D F W, WHICH INCLUDES ALAN DALLAS, GARLAND AND RICHARDSON, WHICH I'LL REFER TO ROTARY WING AIRCRAFT INSTEAD OF HELICOPTERS.

SO THAT BRINGS US TO THE END OF THE PRESENTATION AND NOW IT'S JUST A RECAP OF THE DIRECTION THAT STAFF ARE SEEKING.

SO STAFF ARE ASKING IF COMMERCIAL DRONE DELIVERY HUBS SHOULD BE LISTED AS A USE IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE, AND IF SO, UM, SHOULD A SEPARATE LAND USE WITH LESS RESTRICTIVE STANDARDS BE INTRODUCED? B, SHOULD THE USES BE PERMITTED WHEN ACCESSORY TO SPECIFIC RETAIL SERVICE AND WAREHOUSE USES? C SHOULD THE USES BE PERMITTED AS A PRIMARY USE IN THE CE L I ONE AND I TWO DISTRICTS? AND FOR BOTH B AND C, SHOULD AN S U P BE REQUIRED OR NOT? D IS THE RECOMMENDED 150 FOOT SETBACK FROM SENSITIVE LAND USE AS APPROPRIATE OR IS A MORE RESTRICTIVE SET? SETBACK DESIRED E IS THE RECOMMENDED STANDARD LIMITING THE TOTAL SIZE OF AN AT GRADE TAKEOFF AND LANDING AREA TO 5% OF THE SITE AREA AS AN ACCESSORY USE APPROPRIATE OR AS AN ALTERNATIVE DESIRED.

AND F IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THE COMMISSION, UH, WOULD LIKE STAFF TO CONSIDER? AND THEN THE LAST TWO, SHOULD THE HELIPORT AND HELL STOP LAND USE DEFINITIONS BE AMENDED TO INCLUDE PROVISIONS FOR ADVANCED AIR MOBILITY.

AND THREE, ARE THERE ANY OTHER RELATED ISSUES ON THIS TOPIC THAT, UH, STAFF SHOULD RESEARCH FURTHER? SO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS THAT YOU PROVIDE US WITH SOME DIRECTION ON THESE TOPICS AND TO, UH, CALL A PUBLIC HEARING, UH, FOR THIS PURPOSE.

SO THAT CONCLUDES THE STAFF PRESENTATIONS.

I'M NOT SURE IF YOU WANT TO GO TO STAFF QUESTIONS OR IF YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM THE OPERATORS FIRST.

I, I THINK, UH, IT'D BE GOOD TO HEAR FROM THE OPERATORS AND BECAUSE I THINK SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS THAT STAFF MIGHT GET, WHICH SIMPLY HAVE TO SAY, WELL, LET'S WAIT TILL THE OPERATOR.

SO LET'S GO THAT DIRECTION AND THEN WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO COME BACK, CIRCLE BACK AND LOOK AT THIS LIST OF QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE AGAIN.

SO, UM,

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FIRST WE HAVE KENDALL PROAC AND TOM HILLIER AND IF WE COULD HAVE ERIC BREMMER AND WADE HARDIN COME DOWN AND TAKE A SEAT.

WE'RE PART OF THE SHOW AND TELL, SHOW AND TELL .

OKAY.

HI, MY NAME IS KENDALL PROSEK.

I LEAD POLICY AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS AT WING.

AND THIS IS MY COLLEAGUE TOM HILLIER.

HE IS OUR LAUNCH MANAGER AT WING FOR THE UNITED STATES.

UM, AND WE ARE REPRESENTING WING.

SO A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON WHO WE ARE.

UM, WE ARE JEROME DELIVERY COMPANY THAT HAS BEEN OPERATIONAL SINCE 28 20 18 ON A GLOBAL SCALE.

AND THESE ARE SOME IMAGES OF WHERE WE HAVE CURRENT OPERATIONS IN FINLAND, AUSTRALIA, CHRISTIANSBURG, VIRGINIA, THE D F W METRO, WHICH IS SPECIFICALLY FRISCO AND LITTLE ELM AS WELL AS LUSK IRELAND.

UM, AND THAT IS RIGHT OUTSIDE OF DUBLIN METRO.

AND I REALLY LIKE TO SHOW THIS SLIDE TO SHOW THAT UM, NOT ONLY DO WE OPERATE IN INCREDIBLY DIFFERENT AREAS, BUT ALSO THE GEOGRAPHY IS VERY DIFFERENT AS WELL.

SO WE CONTINUE TO OPERATE IN VERY VASTLY DIFFERENT MARKETS.

AND THEN IN FRISCO AND LITTLE ELM, WE ACTUALLY LAUNCHED LAST YEAR, APRIL OF 2022.

SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR AIRCRAFT IS TOM IS BEING MY VAN OF WHITE .

UM, AS YOU CAN TELL, IT'S INCREDIBLY LIGHTWEIGHT.

IT IS MADE OF STYROFOAM.

UM, SO IT'S ABOUT 11 POUNDS.

IT CAN CARRY ABOUT THREE POUNDS.

SO THINK OF A ROTISSERIE CHICKEN.

WE ACTUALLY DELIVER QUITE A BIT OF THOSE IN AUSTRALIA AND THEY FIT PERFECTLY IN THE PACKAGE AS WELL.

UM, WE HAVE DELIVERED OVER 300,000 FLIGHTS ON A GLOBAL SCALE AND THEN THIS CRUISES AT ABOUT 65 MILES AN HOUR.

WE OPERATE ABOUT 150 FEET AND HAVE A DELIVERY RADIUS OF ABOUT SIX MILES.

SO THOSE ARE A FEW FACTS ON THE DRONE ITSELF.

AND THEN WING'S APPROACH TO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, THIS IS PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT WE DO WHEN WE ARE ENTERING IN A NEW MARKET.

UM, WE CONTINUE TO HAVE THINGS SUCH AS LIVE DEMONSTRATIONS PRIOR TO LAUNCHING, WE ARE OUT AT LOCAL BOOTHS FOR FESTIVALS OR FARMERS' MARKETS.

AND THEN WE REALLY DO ENGAGE WITH ALL OF THE STAKEHOLDERS WITHIN THE COMMUNITIES FROM YOURSELVES ALL THE WAY TO SCHOOLS, UM, TEACHERS, LAW ENFORCEMENT, ET CETERA, BECAUSE WE RECOGNIZE THAT COMMUNITIES ARE INCREDIBLY SACRED SPACE AND WE'RE COMING IN TO OFFER A SERVICE.

SO WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO BE A RESOURCE AND TO EDUCATE PEOPLE ON WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.

WE KNOW THAT MOST OF THE TIME WHEN PEOPLE THINK OF DRONES, IT'S NOT THE SIZE OF THIS OR IT'S SMALLER OR MUCH LARGER.

SO WE BRING OUR DRONE WITH US EVERYWHERE.

FOR EXAMPLE, WE WERE JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO AT LITTLE ELMS BREWING QUEUE AND LIKE I MENTIONED, WE HAD LAUNCHED THERE LAST APRIL.

WE'RE STILL OUT DOING COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND THAT WOULDN'T CHANGE WITH ANYWHERE WE CONTINUE TO OPERATE.

UM, JUST THIS 87% IS A NOTE.

WE DID A STUDY WITH VIRGINIA TECH ONE YEAR AFTER OPERATIONS IN CHRISTIANSBURG TO UNDERSTAND DOES THE COMMUNITY LIKE DRONE DELIVERY, DO THEY NOT? AND WE HAD AN 87% APPROVAL OF DRONE DELIVERY IN OUR FIRST US, UM, SERVICE AREA.

SO ABOUT OUR LIGHTWEIGHT NEST SET UP.

UM, I SAW THAT JORDAN HAD SOME OF OUR PHOTOS ON THE LAST DECK, SO IT'S REALLY NICE TO SEE, YOU GET TO SEE A FEW OF THEM HERE.

SO WE HAVE VERY DIFFERENT NESTS AND EXCUSE ME, WE USE THE WORD NEST RATHER THAN DRONE HUB.

SO IF I SAY NEST, I'M TALKING ABOUT A DRONE HUB FACILITY AS WELL.

UM, BUT THESE ARE VERY DIFFERENT OPTIONS.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY'RE SET UP INCREDIBLY DIFFERENTLY.

SO AT THE TOP LEFT, THIS IS OUR FACILITY IN CHRISTIANSBURG, VIRGINIA.

THE BOTTOM LEFT IS AN IMAGE IN AUSTRALIA.

IT'S ON A ROOFTOP MALL.

THE MIDDLE IMAGE IS FRISCO STATION, UM, RIGHT OUTSIDE THE COWBOYS PRACTICE FACILITY IN FRISCO.

AND THEN THE LAST IMAGE ON THE RIGHT IS LITTLE ELM, AND THAT IS AT A PARTNER LOCATION, WHICH IS THE WALGREENS ON 4 23 AND EL DORADO.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS, THEY ARE VASTLY DIFFERENT.

AND OUR NESTS ARE SET UP BASED ON COMMUNITY NEED, PARTNER NEED, AND OUR EVOLVING TECHNOLOGY.

SO WITH THIS, WHILE WE UNDERSTAND THAT ZONING OF NEST WILL DEPEND ON LOCATION, WING SETUP IS INCREDIBLY LIGHTWEIGHT.

WE NEED TRULY

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AND THE SIZE DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON HOW WE SET UP OUR NEST.

AND WE THINK THAT THE NEST, UM, LOCATION SHOULD BE APPROVED MOVING FORWARD.

HAVING THE FLEXIBILITY TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY IS OUR PRIORITY, AND SETTING THE LIMITATION ON THAT NEST SIZE COULD IMPACT HOW WE DO, UM, SERVE THE COMMUNITY.

SO LIKE I SAID, OVERALL IT'S REALLY NOT MUCH THAT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO SET UP OUR OPERATION SPECIFICALLY.

UM, IT'S POWER, IT IS A FENCE PERMIT AND THEN LIKELY SOMETIMES A SMALL CONTAINER, UM, WHICH YOU SEE IN THAT TOP IMAGE.

AND EVEN THOUGH, OR EVEN MOST OF THE TIME WE DON'T NEED THAT SHIPPING CONTAINER, WE ARE ABLE TO USE OUR PARTNER SITES AS WELL.

SO MOVING ON TO RECOMMENDATIONS, WE HAVE FOUND THAT EXISTING ORDINANCE HAVE BEEN VERY FLEXIBLE AND THEY'VE ALLOWED US TO, UM, USE OUR FACILITIES TO BE BUILT HOW THEY ARE, WE'LL OF COURSE WORK WITH YOU ON THIS PROCESS, BUT WE HAVE FOUND THAT WITH OUR OPERATIONS, THERE HAVE BEEN WORKAROUNDS WITH CURRENT STANDINGS OF ZONING AND PLANNING.

UM, THE TECHNOLOGY IS EVER EVOLVING AND THAT CAN CREATE MORE HARM THAN GOOD DOWN THE LINE FOR ORDINANCES.

THAT COULD BE ARBITRARY, UM, SETTING POTENTIAL LIMITS ON WHAT THE DRONE HUB WILL BE.

IT MIGHT STIFLE INNOVA INNOVATION FOR COMPANIES AND THEN IN TURN HAVE AN IMPACT ON HOW THE CUSTOMERS AND PARTNERS WOULD BE ABLE TO UTILIZE DRONE DELIVERY.

WE OF COURSE ASK THAT THERE'S NO DUPLICATIVE UM, REGULATION BECAUSE THE FA DOES REGULATE US ALREADY, AS YOU HEARD IN JORDAN'S PRESENTATION.

AND THEN OF COURSE, NOT TO BE OVERLY PRESCRIPTIVE WITH DRONE HUBS AND HOW THEY'RE SET UP BECAUSE OUR SYSTEMS ARE SET UP TO EVOLVE BASED ON COMMUNITY AND PARTNER NEEDS AS WELL AS WITH OUR TECHNOLOGY.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR INVITING US AND ALLOWING US TO SPEAK TODAY.

UM, WE HAVE THE DRONE.

I HAVE TOM HERE.

HE DOES HELP SET UP THE SITE, SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

UM, DO WE HAVE, HOW MANY SPEAKERS DO WE HAVE? ACTUALLY, WE HAVE TWO MORE AND WE HAVE, UH, JUST UNDER NINE MINUTES LEFT OF PRESENTATION TIME.

OKAY.

WE'RE GONNA BE A LITTLE FLEXIBLE OVER THAT I THINK BECAUSE WE MAY HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

SO YOU GUYS WANNA ASK QUESTIONS OF THEM NOW OR WOULD YOU RATHER HEAR FROM THE OTHER OPERATORS AND THEN MAYBE LET'S HEAR FROM THEM ALL.

LET'S HEAR FROM 'EM ALL FIRST.

OKAY.

I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

SO DON'T STRAY TOO FAR CUZ CHANCES ARE, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL CALL YOU BACK, BUT LET'S MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT PRESENTER.

THANK YOU.

SO, UH, NEXT IS ERIC BRIMMER.

GOOD EVENING.

I AM HERE TO TAKE QUESTIONS, FIELD QUESTIONS.

I DIDN'T BRING MY FANCY PRESENTATION OR MY AIRCRAFT WITH ME TONIGHT, .

UH, BUT MORE THAN HAPPY TO TO INTERJECT WITH SOME OF THE SUBTLE BUT UH, CRUCIAL DIFFERENCES BETWEEN ANY OF THE THREE OPERATORS THAT ARE PRESENT THIS EVENING.

UM, MOSTLY GONNA BE AROUND WEIGHTS, SIZE OF FACILITIES, THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES, WEIGHTS THAT WE CAN CARRY THAT IS, AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AIRCRAFT TYPE.

BUT THE MAJORITY OF WHAT KENDALL AND, AND TOM MENTIONED, UH, HOLDS TRUE FOR THE ENTIRE INDUSTRY, UH, AS FAR AS ENSURING THAT WE GET THE FLEXIBILITY THAT WE NEED TO, UH, SERVE THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SERVE.

SO, OKAY, I'LL BE SUPER BRIEF.

THANK FOR THAT.

THAT IS VERY BRIEF.

OKAY, EXCELLENT.

LET'S GO TO THE NEXT, UH, NEXT IS WADE HARDEN.

THANK YOU.

CHAIR COMMISSION.

WADE HARDEN WITH FLY TRACKS, UH, COMPANY FOUNDED IN 2014.

WE FLY INTERNATIONALLY.

WE HAVE, UH, LOCATIONS CURRENTLY IN OPERATION IN DURHAM, NORTH CAROLINA, AS WELL AS DFW.

UM, WE'RE KIND OF THE, I GUESS THE UBER EATS OF THE SKY.

UH, PRIMARILY DELIVER FOOD, UH, AS A VAST MAJORITY OF OUR DELIVERIES.

UH, A COUPLE THINGS, I'LL MAKE IT QUICK.

I DON'T HAVE A PRE PRESENTATION AS WELL, BUT, UM, A COUPLE THINGS I WANTED TO TOUCH UPON.

TWO THINGS THAT WE LOOK AT FROM A STANDPOINT OF WHEN WE LOOK TO LOCATE A SITE, WE LOOK TYPICALLY TO CO-LOCATE WITH RETAIL.

SO THAT'S, I THINK IN, IN WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF CO-LOCATION.

I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE FOR US, BUT WE ALSO LOOK TO LOOK AT STANDALONE RETAIL PARCELS AND OUT PARCELS.

AND SO, UH, WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER, UM, SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO BE ABLE TO LOCATE AS A STANDALONE LOCATION, WHETHER THAT'S POTENTIALLY THROUGH S U P OR A C U P, IF THERE'RE CONCERNS WITH THE, UH, THE USE AND HOW MAYBE A BUTTS LOCATIONS OR HOW IT INTERACTS WITH THE RETAIL.

BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE OF INTEREST TO US BECAUSE WE DO HAVE STANDALONE LOCATIONS THAT, THAT WE OPERATE.

UM, OUTSIDE OF THAT, I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, FROM A, THE WAY WE OPERATE, I THINK A LOT OF SIMILARITIES BETWEEN THE, THE OTHER COMPANIES THAT ARE HERE THIS EVENING.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE OPERATE TYPICALLY A LITTLE BIT LARGER SITE PROBABLY THAN THE OTHERS.

WE HAVE A TYPICALLY LOOK FOR A 70 BY 70 SITE.

UM, WE DO OPERATE AN EASEMENT.

SOMETIMES WE LOOK AT SOME ODD, ODD CONFIGURATIONS THAT AREN'T DEVELOPABLE FROM A RETAIL PERSPECTIVE SOMETIMES AND, AND TAKE THOSE LOCATIONS, UH, WORKING WITH JURISDICTIONS.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE, WE CONSIDER AS WELL.

UM, BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT, I THINK THE, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER ITEMS THAT 150 FOOT SETBACK, THE 5% OF IT FOR AN ACCESSORY USE, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS ARE, ARE WELL WITHIN REASON FOR US.

AND I THINK AT

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BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMISSION MIGHT HAVE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THAT IS THE LAST OF OUR SPEAKERS.

OKAY.

SO, UM, KENDALL.

KENDALL, RIGHT? YES, SIR.

I, I WOULD SUGGEST YOU COME DOWN, I'M NOT SURE WHO'S GONNA ASK A QUESTION AND WHO THEY'RE GONNA ASK IT OF.

AND IT'S POSSIBLE THAT A QUESTION WILL BE ASKED THAT ONE PERSON WILL ANSWER AND THEN WE'LL SAY, HOW'S YOURS DIFFERENT? OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND I, I DON'T MEAN FOR THIS TO TURN INTO AN HOUR, UH, IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT ARE RELATED TO HOW ARE THEY GONNA FLY WITHIN OUR SPACE VERSUS WHAT ELSE DO THEY CARRY BESIDE CHICKENS.

UM, LET'S START WITH MR. BRUNO.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.

UM, WHERE'S KENDALL? OH, THERE YOU ARE.

OKAY.

AND I GUESS I COULD CALL YOU MS. PROZAC? YES, THAT'S FINE.

OKAY.

SO HOW DO YOU WISH TO BE ADDRESSED? I'M SORRY.

I'M SORRY.

HOW DO YOU WISH TO BE ADDRESSED? OH, KENDALL'S FINE.

KENDALL'S FINE.

GOOD.

UM, WHAT IS THE POWER SOURCE FOR THESE CRAFT, THESE AIRCRAFT? YEP, GREAT QUESTION.

SO ON THE BOTTOM OF OUR DRAWING, THANK YOU.

THERE ARE ACTUALLY A FEW PINS RIGHT HERE.

SO ON IF I CAN GO BACK TO MY SLIDE, YOU JUST HOLD.

THANK YOU.

UM, AM I GOING THE WRONG WAY? WRONG WAY FORWARD, SORRY.

UM, IF I GO BACK TO MY SLIDES, YOU'LL SEE OUR NEST SET UP WITH THE PADS AND IN BETWEEN EVERY PAD THERE'S A CHARGING PAD, UM, OR I'M SORRY, A GEO FIDUCIAL.

SO, UH, YOU CAN SCROLL IN WITH YOUR EYES, YOU'LL SEE THE DRONE SITTING DOWN ON ONE, UM, IN THE LITTLE ELM NEST, AND THEN THERE'S A BIG GEO FIDUCIAL, BUT THE DRONE ALWAYS SITS IN THAT MIDDLE PAD AND IT IS CHARGING CONSTANTLY.

SO IT'S BATTERIES WHAT I'M GETTING AT.

OKAY.

UM, AND IT HAS TWO BATTERIES ON OUR VEHICLE.