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NOW DECLARE THE PLAINTIFF CITY COUNCIL'S CONVENED AN OPEN SESSION THAT ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.
COUNCIL MEMBER SHELBY WILLIAMS IS ON ZOOM.
THE COUNCIL WILL NOW RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION IN TRAINING MAY TO HOLD A CLOSED EXECUTIVE MEETING PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF VERNONS TEXAS CODE'S ANNOTATED GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 5 51.
THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AUTHORITY CONTAINED IN SECTION 5 51 0 71.
TO CONSULT WITH THE ATTORNEY, RECEIVE LEGALLY ADVICE AND DISCUSS LITIGATION SECTION 5 51 0 72 TO DISCUSS REAL ESTATE MATTERS.
I NOW TO DECLARE THAT THE P PLANO CITY COUNCIL PRELIMINARY OPEN MEETING IS RECONVENED IN OPEN SESSION.
THAT ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT FOR THE EXCEPTION OF COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS WHO BE ON ZOOM MOMENTARILY.
OUR FIRST ITEM, UH, ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM ONE, PRELIMINARY AGENDAS, CONSIDERATION AND ACTION RESULTING FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION.
NEXT ITEM IS THE COMPREHENSIVE MONTHLY FINANCIAL REPORT FOR MARCH, 2023.
MS. TACKY, GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.
I'M THE FINANCE DIRECTOR FOR THE CITY OF PLANO, AND I'M HERE TO PRESENT THE MARCH, 2023, UM, COMPREHENSIVE MONTHLY FINANCIAL REPORT.
SO WE'RE SIX MONTHS INTO OUR, UM, FISCAL YEAR, AND THIS FIRST SLIDE REPRESENTS OUR REVENUES COMPARED TO BUDGET BY FUND.
THE GENERAL FUND HAS REVENUES OF 240.1 MILLION FOR THE FIRST HALF OF THE FISCAL YEAR, AND THIS REPRESENTS 77.7% OF THE TOTAL ANNUAL BUDGET.
THE WATER AND SEWER FUND HAS 91.2 MILLION IN REVENUES, WHICH REPRESENTS 47.9% OF THE TOTAL ANNUAL BUDGET.
THIS IS OUR EXPENDITURES COMPARED TO BUDGET BY FUND.
THE GENERAL FUND HAS EXPENDITURES OF 157.1 MILLION FOR THE FIRST HALF OF THE FISCAL YEAR, AND THAT REPRESENTS 52.3% OF THE BUDGET.
THE WATER AND SEWER FUND HAS EXPENDITURES OF 70 MILLION, WHICH REPRESENTS 45.2% OF THE TOTAL ANNUAL BUDGET.
THIS SLIDE REPRESENTS OUR NET CHANGE IN FUND BALANCE FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS.
IN THE GENERAL FUND FOR THE FIRST HALF OF THE FISCAL YEAR, THE FUND BALANCE HAS INCREASED BY 62 MILLION.
THIS IS RIGHT ON TRACK WITH HOW WE WERE AT THIS SAME POINT IN TIME LAST YEAR.
THE WATER AND SEWER FUND BALANCE HAS INCREASED BY 937 MILLION.
THIS IS BETTER THAN PRIOR YEAR AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL WASTE SERVICES FUND HAS DECREASED BY 2 MILLION.
AND MUNICIPAL DRAINAGE FUND HAS INCREASED BY 822,000.
BOTH OF THOSE FUNDS ARE TRENDING SLIGHTLY BETTER THAN THEY WERE LAST YEAR.
AT THIS TIME, OUR GENERAL FUND REVENUES COMPARED TO THE PRIOR FISCAL YEAR, THEY'RE HIGHER BY 11 MILLION.
THERE WAS AN INCREASE IN PROPERTY TAXES OF 574,000, AND ADDITIONALLY, OUR SALES TAX REVENUE HAS INCREASED BY 7.1 MILLION.
THERE WAS ALSO AN INCREASE IN BUILDING PERMIT REVENUE OF 2.1 MILLION.
OUR GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES ARE HIGHER THAN THE PRIOR YEAR BY 11.7 MILLION.
PERSONNEL COSTS INCREASED BY 6.7 MILLION DUE TO THE SALARY ADJUSTMENT THAT WAS EFFECTIVE IN 2022.
COST FOR MATERIALS AND SUPPLIES INCREASED BY 958,000.
THIS IS DUE TO ADDITIONAL WEAPON PURCHASES FOR NEW POLICE RECRUITS AND EQUIPMENT FOR FIRE SPECIAL TEAMS OPERATIONS.
CONTRACTUAL AND PROFESSIONAL FEES INCREASED BY 3.8 MILLION DUE TO INCREASED TRAVEL AND TRAINING AS WE'RE PICKING THAT BACK UP.
UM, AND THEN CAPITAL OUTLAY INCREASED BY 1.6 MILLION DUE TO THE THERMAL LININGS AND TRAINING PROPS FOR THE NEW TRI FIRE TRAINING FACILITY, AS WELL AS DEFIBRILLATORS AND POWER COTS.
FOR THE THREE NEW AMBULANCES, OUR HEALTH CLAIMS FUND HAD A DECREASE IN FUND BALANCE OF ABOUT 4.3 MILLION.
THIS IS MOSTLY DUE TO AN INCREASE IN EXPENSES.
UM, AGAIN, THIS WAS THE EMPLOYEES.
GOING BACK TO THE DOCTOR, OF COURSE, WE'RE JUST SEEING INCREASED PRESSURE ON HEALTH COSTS.
UM, WE HAD A LOT OF LARGE CLAIMANTS AND, AND THE FUND HAS A FUND BALANCE AT 12.2 MILLION IN MARCH.
HOWEVER, WE'RE CONTINUING TO SEE THAT DECLINE IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS.
UM, WE ARE REVIEWING THE PLAN TO DETERMINE WHAT ADDITIONAL PREMIUM INCREASES MAY BE NECESSARY IN ORDER TO, TO CONTINUE GETTING THE FUND IN A HEALTHY POSITION.
UNEMPLOYMENT RATES IN DECEMBER, WERE AT 2.8% AND THEY HAVE INCREASED TO 3.6% IN MARCH.
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AND THIS IS JUST SOME MORE, UM, CURRENT SALES TAX INFORMATION.IT WAS UP COMPARED TO THE PRIOR YEAR BY 7.3%.
OVERALL, OUR SALES TAX NUMBERS ARE LOOKING VERY GOOD.
UM, MARKET RECAP SHOWS THE NUMBER OF DAYS ON MARKET WAS 48 IN DECEMBER COMPARED TO 28 DAYS IN MARCH.
OF COURSE, IT ALWAYS PICKS UP IN THE SPRING A LITTLE BIT MORE, AND THEN THE PERCENT OF ASKING WAS AT 98% IN DECEMBER, AND THAT ROSE TO A HUNDRED PERCENT IN MARCH.
THE MEDIAN SELLING PRICE FOR HOME IN PLANO WAS 480,000 IN DECEMBER.
WE CONTINUE TO SEE THAT GO UP.
THE PRICE PERF SQUARE FOOT IN DECEMBER WAS 203 COMPARED TO 219 IN MARCH.
OUR HOTEL OCCUPANCY IS UP BY 1 MILLION COMPARED TO THE PRIOR FISCAL YEAR.
WE'RE CONTINUING TO SEE THIS INCREASE AS WE HAVE ADDITIONAL HOTELS IN THE CITY AND HAS IT RECOVERED VERY NICELY FROM COVID.
THIS IS OUR EQUITY AND TREASURY POLL.
IT, UM, BASICALLY IS WHERE OUR INVESTMENT PORTFOLIO IS.
HOW MUCH OF THE INVESTMENTS ARE OWNED BY EACH FUND.
AS ALWAYS, THE LARGEST PORTION OF THIS IS THE CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND, WHICH REPRESENTS 30% OF THE EQUITY CUZ THAT'S WHERE OUR BOND PROCEEDS ARE.
AND THIS IS OUR INVESTMENT PORTFOLIO MATURITIES.
UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF LIQUIDITY IN THE ZERO TO ONE YEAR CATEGORY.
WE CONTINUE TO INVEST OUT A LITTLE FURTHER AS WE RECEIVE FUNDS.
AND THEN THIS IS OUR, UM, DIVERSIFICATION OF OUR PORTFOLIO.
THE LARGEST INVESTMENT IS MUNICIPAL B BONDS, UM, BECAUSE WE'RE ABLE TO GET SOME BETTER YIELDS ON THE MUNICIPAL BONDS.
WE'RE VERY DIVERSIFIED AND OF COURSE, THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE.
AND OUR PORTFOLIO VALUE IN AS OF MARCH 31ST WAS 777 MILLION.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UH, ON THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATES.
I NOTICED THAT THE, UM, THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATES, UH, IN BOTH DFW AS A WHOLE AND PLANO IN SPECIFIC SEEMED TO HAVE, UH, NOT ONLY INCREASED, UH, OVER THE, THE TIME ON THAT SLIDE, BUT ALSO INCREASED RELATIVE TO THE NATIONAL AVERAGE.
THAT IS TO SAY THE NATIONAL UNEMPLOYMENT USED TO BE HIGHER IN BOTH.
WE AND DFW WERE LOWER AND WE'VE, WE'VE KIND OF BEEN CATCHING UP AND I THINK DFW EVEN PASSED THE NATIONAL AVERAGE.
DO WE KNOW, UM, WHAT IS CAUSING UNEMPLOYMENT IN THE DFW AREA IN PLANO IN SPECIFIC TO INCREASE MORE, UH, OVER THAT TIME PERIOD THAN THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE INCREASE NATIONALLY THAT I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S ANY ONE FACTOR THAT YOU CAN POINT TO THAT, THAT IS CAUSING IT.
IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN TRENDING SO MUCH BETTER THAN NATIONALLY MM-HMM.
NEXT ITEM ON THREE QUARTERLY INVESTMENT REPORT.
MARK WHITAKER, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
IS THIS YOUR FIRST PRESENTATION, COUNSEL? YES, THIS IS MY FIRST PRESENTATION.
I'M THE TREASURER HERE AT THE CITY OF PLANO, AND I'M HAPPY TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT THE SECOND QUARTER INVESTMENT REPORT.
I CAN GO OVER THE JUST BASIC ECONOMIC UPDATE, MARKET UPDATE, AND THEN GO OVER THE INVESTMENTS ON THE REST OF THE SLIDES.
UH, CONSUMER CONFIDENCE REMAINS LOWER THAN THE 22 AVERAGE WITH FEARS OF FEARS OF UNEMPLOYMENT RATES, AS WELL AS, UH, GIMME ONE SECOND.
THE INFLATION RATE, UH, REMAINS HIGH AT 6.3% AT THE END OF MARCH.
UH, THAT HAS GONE DOWN AS THE MUNCH HAVE PROGRESSED.
IT IS DOWN NOW TO 4.9% AS OF THE END OF MAY.
UH, GDP WENT UP 1.1% IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2023, UH, FOLLOWED BY 2.6% IN THE FOURTH QUARTER OF 2022.
SO WE ARE SEEING A SLOWDOWN IN THE ECONOMY.
UH, LABOR MARKET CONTINUES, UH, TO ABOUT REMAIN THE SAME AT 3.4% IN MARCH, UH, WITH STRONG NON-FARM PAYROLLS AT 253,000, UH, THAT CONTINUES IN MAY.
THOSE RATES WERE AT, UH, 300,000 WITH EXPECTATIONS OF 190,000.
UH, SO CONTINUES TO BUCK THE TREND OF, UH, EXPECTING A RECESSION
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WITH STRONG EMPLOYMENT RATE.UH, THE TWO YEAR TREASURY IS OUR BENCHMARK, UH, IN JANUARY.
THAT RATE WAS 4.21%, UH, 4.53% IN FEBRUARY, AND THEN A DOWNTURN IN MARCH, MAINLY RESULTING FROM THE FINANCIAL CRISIS, UH, THAT ENDED UP BEING, UH, HELD TO, UH, THAT MONTH RELATIVELY, UH, BY THE FAILED, UH, SILICON VALLEY BANK.
AND THE OTHER TWO BANKS THAT HAD, UH, LIQUIDITY ISSUES.
UH, WE HAVE SINCE BOUNCED BACK IN THE LAST 14 DAYS, ARE NOW UP OVER 4.4% IN THE BENCHMARK.
UH, CITY'S PORTFOLIO YIELD IS 2.5300000000000002% FOR THE MONTH OF MARCH.
UH, THE FEDERAL RESERVE EXPECTED TO RAISE RATES, UH, TWICE IN THIS QUARTER AS THEY DID.
THEY RAISED 50 BASIS POINTS, UH, AND THEY EXPECTED TO RAISE RATES, UH, IN MAY, WHICH ALSO, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE GRAPH, UH, THEY DID FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THAT.
UH, WITH THE CONFLICTING ECONOMIC FACTORS, UH, THERE IS LESS CONFIDENCE OF A PAUSE.
SO THERE IS NOW 55% CHANCE THAT THEY WILL PAUSE RATES WITH 45% SAYING THEY MIGHT INCREASE THEM AGAIN IN THE COMING MEETING.
UH, THIS WAS THE RELEASE ON FEBRUARY 1ST, UH, CONTINUES TO SAY THAT THEIR 2% IS THEIR TARGET FOR, UH, FOR INFLATION.
SO THEY STILL HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL THE DATA COMING IN TO TRY TO GET TO THAT 2% MARK, WHETHER THAT'S INCREASING RATES, UM, OR PAUSING THEM.
JUST LOOKING AT THE DATA AS IT COMES IN, UH, THEY STILL MAINTAIN THAT 2% TARGET, UH, US TREASURY HISTORICALLY, UH, YOU CAN JUST SEE THE FOCUS ON, UH, THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
I'M NOT SURE WHY I KEPT GOING, BUT IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, YOU CAN SEE THE COMPLETING ECONOMIC DATA THAT'S COMING OUT.
UH, THERE'S INCREASES IN THE ECONOMIC RECESSION, AND THEN THE NEXT MONTH THE LABOR MARKET IS STRONG, AND THAT'S THE LAST YEAR OR TWO.
UH, WE ARE IN AN IN-BUILD INVERTED YIELD CURVE.
UH, THE FIRST SIX MONTHS ON THAT CURVE ARE THE HIGHEST, UM, NEAR 5%, UH, AND THEN START TO DROP OFF DRASTICALLY AFTER THAT.
UH, YOU CAN SEE THE FIVE YEAR, WHICH IS THE FARTHEST WE CAN GO OUT ON OUR PORTFOLIO IS MORE AROUND THE 3.5% MARK.
UH, IT'S UNCOMMON, UM, AND WE EXPECT THAT AT SOME POINT TO REVERT BACK TO A, UH, NORMAL YIELD CURVE.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT HAPPENED HERE.
THIS GRAPH, WE'LL JUST SLIP OVER THAT ONE.
UH, WE HAD ABOUT 23 MILLION, UH, INSECURITIES GET CALLED AND, OR MATURE IN THIS QUARTER, AND WE REINVESTED 18 MILLION OF THAT.
UH, THOSE THAT GOT CALLED AND MATURED WERE ROUGHLY AT AROUND A 2% INTEREST RATE FALLING OFF THE PORTFOLIO.
AND WERE REINVESTED AROUND, UH, SOMEWHERE BETWEEN FOUR AND 4.3%, UM, WHICH IS GONNA CONTINUE TO BE THE CASE IN THE THREE TO FIVE YEAR RANGE, WHICH IS OUR TARGET INVESTMENT RANGE.
UH, AS DENISE SAID, WE TRY TO KEEP A CONSISTENT LADDER.
THE ONE YEAR SHORT TERM IS AT 47% BASED ON ALL THE TAX INCOME THAT WE RECEIVED DURING THIS QUARTER.
UH, AND THEN SECOND, THIRD, FOURTH, AND FIFTH.
UM, ALL OF THOSE REINVESTED BONDS WERE IN THE THREE, FOUR, AND FIVE YEAR RANGE.
UM, AND WE HAVE INVESTED ANOTHER 23 MILLION IN THIS CURRENT QUARTER.
UM, ALSO IN THAT THREE, FOUR, AND FIVE YEAR RANGE TO INCREASE THE LADDER AND JUST CONTINUE ON, UH, WITH OUR STRATEGY THAT WE'VE HAD FOR YEARS.
UH, PERFORMANCE, UH, YOU'LL SEE THE SHORT TERM BANK ACCOUNTS AT THAT 4.5%, UH, WHICH JUST GOES TO SHOW THE INVERTED YIELD CURVE.
UM, WHILE THE REST OF OUR PORTFOLIO IS YIELDING A 2.53 TO OVERALL YIELD, UH, THE QUARTER INVESTMENT EARNINGS OF NEGATIVE 711,000, THAT ALSO INCLUDES UNREALIZED GAINS, UM, WHICH WE HOLD A MATURITY.
SO THOSE ARE UNREALIZED AND WILL NOT, UH, EVER BE FORESEEN.
UH, WE RECEIVED 4.4 MILLION OF INTEREST THIS QUARTER PERFORMANCE CONTINUED.
UM, IT'S GRAPH, IT'S COVERED UP, BUT IT JUST SHOWS AN INCREASE IN OUR YIELD OVER THE LAST TWO YEAR IS COVERED UP BY THAT, UH, BALLOON.
BUT WE ARE TRENDING UPWARDS OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS.
UH, WE WILL CONTINUE TO TREND UPWARD AS THE, UH, ROLL OFFS ON THE PORTFOLIO AT THOSE LOWER INTEREST RATES THAT WERE INVESTED IN THE PREVIOUS YEARS CAN NOW BE REINVESTED IN THAT, UH, 4% RANGE.
UM, AND THAT WILL BE CONTINUED ON.
WE HAVE ABOUT 90 MILLION MATURING THE REMAINDER OF THIS YEAR THAT CAN BE REINVESTED IN THOSE
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HIGHER RATES.UH, THIS IS JUST A, UH, LISTING OF ALL THE INDIVIDUAL PORTFOLIO INVESTMENTS THAT Y'ALL HAVE ACCESS TO.
AND THEN HERE IS A SUMMARY OF THAT.
UH, AS DENISE WAS SAYING, MUNICIPAL BONDS IS OUR HIGHEST PORTFOLIO PERCENTAGE, 41%, UH, 50% IS OUR MAXIMUM HOLDINGS OF ANY ANYONE.
UH, AND THEN WE HAVE A 33%, UH, IN AGENCY BONDS LIKE US AGENCY BONDS AND ABOUT 22% IN CASH AND OVERNIGHT INVESTMENTS.
TREND OF BOOK, QUARTERLY BOOK VALUE.
UM, CITY OF PLANO CONTINUES TO HAVE A INCREASED TREND LINE IN THE BOOK VALUE, UM, AS OF MARCH BECAUSE OF THE, UH, THE TAX DOLLARS THAT WE RECEIVED, YOU WILL SEE THAT INCREASE.
THAT'S WHAT CAUSED THAT, UH, INCREASE IN MARCH.
AND YOU'LL SEE ANOTHER INCREASE IN JUNE BECAUSE OF OUR TAX PROCEEDS OR OUR BOND PROCEEDS.
BUT THE TREND IS STILL CONTINUING AND GROWING.
ANOTHER LIST OF BOOK VALUE COMPARISON FROM MARCH TO DECEMBER, AND WE HAVE A SUMMARY PAGE COMING UP.
UH, THERE IS AN INCREASE OF ABOUT 86 MILLION IN BOOK VALUE FROM MARCH, UH, DECEMBER TO MARCH.
AGAIN, TAX DOLLARS COMING IN, THOSE WILL BE REINVESTED, UM, CURRENTLY AT THOSE, UH, LATTER TERMS WITH THE PORTFOLIO, UH, ALLOCATION OF EQUITY IN THE TREASURY POOL.
AGAIN, CITY OF PLANO, WE CONTINUE TO HAVE A CONSISTENT ALLOCATION IN THE TREASURY POOLS, UH, BASED ON THE DIFFERENT, UH, GENERAL FUNDS AND FUNDS AVAILABLE TO US.
THERE WERE NO CHANGES TO THE INVESTMENT POLICY, THEN OPEN UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MARK? THANK YOU.
OKAY, NEXT ITEM IS THE, UH, ITEM FOUR NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT CUSTOMER PREMIUM PROPOSAL MARK MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
UH, THIS IS JUST TO PROVIDE A QUICK PUBLIC UPDATE ON THE CUSTOMER PREMIUM THAT NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT HAS ON THEIR WATER RATES.
UH, STARTING IN 1971, THE THE WATER DISTRICT ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTED A CUSTOMER PREMIUM FOR NON-MEMBER CITIES, UH, 5 CENTS ON THE RATE.
AT THAT TIME, IT WAS BETWEEN 2020 5%, UH, OF THE RATE FOR A MARKUP FOR CUSTOMERS, UM, TO BE CHARGED, UH, IN EXCESS OF WHAT THE MEMBER CITIES, UM, PAY.
SO THE MEMBER MEMBER CITIES, THERE'S 13 TOTAL MEMBER CITIES, UH, THAT ARE IN EXISTENCE TODAY.
THAT NICKEL HAS ACTUALLY STAYED A STATIC NUMBER SINCE 1971.
SO WHILE IT WAS 20 TO 25% IN 1971, IT'S LESS THAN 2%.
NOW, AS PART OF OUR SETTLEMENT OF THE, UH, WATER RATE CASE THAT WE HAD A FEW YEARS AGO, UM, THE ASSESSMENT AND ADJUSTMENT OF THE, UH, CUSTOMER PREMIUM WAS ONE OF THE SETTLEMENT FACTORS THAT WE HAD IN THERE, THAT THE, THE DISTRICT WAS TO STUDY IT TO PROPOSE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE, UH, MORE APPLICABLE TO, UM, UH, A, A CONTEMPORARY MARKUP VERSUS, UH, VERSUS THE FLAT NICKEL.
THE, THE DISTRICT HAS GONE THROUGH, UH, A BIT OF A STUDY.
THEY'VE, UH, HIRED SOME CONSULTANTS AND BROUGHT BACK SOME ANSWERS, UM, THAT, UH, UPON INITIAL REVIEW, UH, DON'T SEEM TO ARTICULATE THE VALUE OF MEMBERSHIP QUITE THE WAY THAT I THINK PLANO WOULD WANT.
UM, AND THAT'S OUR WAY OF SAYING THAT WE'VE KIND OF PUSHED BACK AND ASKED FOR THEM TO GO DO MORE WORK.
WE ARE GOING TO BE MEETING WITH A, A COUPLE OF OTHER MEMBER CITIES THAT WE HAVE, UM, SPENT A LOT OF TIME NEGOTIATING WITH AS A WAY OF PROVIDING SOME FEEDBACK TO THE WATER DISTRICT.
BUT I WANTED TO PUT IT ON YOUR RADAR THAT, UH, THIS IS AN IMPORTANT DECISION.
IT IS REVENUE THAT COMES BACK TO THE WATER DISTRICT THAT HELPS, UH, BUFFER THE AMOUNT OF, UH, OF RATE INCREASES THAT WE SEE ON AN ANNUAL YEAR.
UM, SO WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE WORKING ON THAT.
WE HAVE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH OUR BOARD MEMBERS, BUT WANTED TO, TO PUBLICLY STATE THAT THAT WORK IS ONGOING.
AND WE DO ANTICIPATE BRINGING SOMETHING BACK PROBABLY IN THE FALL TIMELINE, UH, FOR COUNCIL TO, UH, TO HAVE A FULL PRESENTATION ON.
BUT I, SINCE WE'RE IN THE BUDGET SEASON, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I BROUGHT YOU, UH, AN UPDATE AND PUT IT ON YOUR RADAR THAT WE'RE WORKING ON THAT BEHIND THE SCENES.
IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER.
NEXT ITEM IS, UH, ITEM FIVE, SHORT TERM RENTAL STUDY UPDATE MS. DAY.
YES, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNSEL AND EXECUTIVES.
UH, TONIGHT WE DO HAVE A UPDATE ON SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND HERE TO PRESENT TO YOU THIS EVENING.
AND AS A MEANS OF INTRODUCTION, WE HAVE JEFF BARTON FROM GAP STRATEGIES.
SO WITH, UH, ANYTHING MORE, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO JEFF.
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MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANKS FOR HAVING ME TONIGHT.UH, AS CHRISTINA SAID, JEFF BARTON, I'M ONE OF THE FOUNDING PARTNERS IN GAP STRATEGIES, THE FIRM THAT YOU ALL SELECTED TO WORK ON THE SHORT TERM RENTAL STUDY.
UH, TONIGHT, UH, I HAVE WITH ME SOME COLLEAGUES, UH, RON WHITEHEAD, WHO'S A LONGTIME CITY MANAGER IN NORTH TEXAS, AND HAS JOINED OUR FIRM AS THE LEADER IN NORTH TEXAS.
AND CALEB ROBERTS, SENIOR PLANNER.
YOU'LL BE SEEING A LOT OF MY PARTNER, KARA BUFFINGTON, WHO'S OUR, OUR TECHNOLOGICAL GURU.
WE HAVE OTHER PEOPLE ON THE BENCH BEHIND US, BUT YOU'LL BE SEEING A LOT OF THE FOUR OF US IN THE COMING WEEKS.
WE WANNA GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE TONIGHT ON WHERE WE ARE ARE WITH THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL, UH, STUDY PROJECT.
UH, FILL YOU IN ON THE TIMELINE, GIVE YOU A PREVIEW OF THE COMMUNITY SURVEY RESULTS, TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THE TASK FORCE THAT YOU HAVE APPOINTED WILL OPERATE, AND THEN TALK ABOUT THE UPCOMING COMMUNITY TOWN HALL LATER THIS SUMMER FOR, UH, YOU AND YOUR CONSTITUENTS WHO MAY BE WATCHING.
SO, FIRST, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, THE PROJECT ITSELF FOR THOSE WHO MAY BE UNFAMILIAR.
THE CITY HAS COMMISSIONED THIS, AS, YOU KNOW, TO REALLY GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF HOW STR AFFECT, UH, THE COMMUNITY IN BOTH BROAD SENSE AND, AND IN THE NUANCES AND SUBTLETIES TO HEAR AND UNDERSTAND COMMUNITY SENTIMENT, UH, FROM ALL SIDES TO PREPARE FINDINGS OF FACT, WHICH WILL BE IMPORTANT FOR YOU ALL, UH, HOWEVER YOU DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD AND FOR YOUR LEGAL TEAM AND TO, AND THEN, UH, IF APPROPRIATE, TO, UH, GIVE RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT LONG-TERM POLICIES AND REGULATIONS, IF IT'S DETERMINED THAT ANY ARE NEEDED.
THIS WILL BE DONE IN TWO BASIC PHASES.
UM, AND ESSENTIALLY IT INCLUDES THE COMMUNITY SURVEY, WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN A MOMENT, AND CLOSED, UH, IN MID MAY.
WE'LL GIVE YOU SOME OF THOSE RESULTS.
THE CITIZEN TASK FORCE, WHICH YOU ALL HAVE APPOINTED, AND WHICH WILL KICK OFF LATER THIS MONTH.
THOSE WILL BE FACILITATED, UH, MEETINGS AND DELIBERATIONS, UH, WORKING WITH YOUR STAFF AND OUR FIRM, AND THEN A COMMUNITY TOWN HALL, AS I MENTIONED LATER THIS SUMMER.
THE GOAL THEN WILL BE DECIDE WHETHER A PHASE TWO, UH, HOW PHASE TWO ROLLS OUT.
WE HAVE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FOR YOU AND TO BRING BACK FINAL, UH, UH, REPORT FOR YOU BEFORE THE, THE INTERIM BAN EXPIRES.
SO A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ABOUT THAT TIMELINE.
AS I SAID, JUNE 29TH IS NOW THE PROJECTED FIRST MEETING FOR YOUR TASK FORCE.
THAT'LL BE FOLLOWED UP BY ANOTHER TASK FORCE MEETING IN JULY.
IN AUGUST, WE ANTICIPATE BEING BACK TO YOU AND THE P AND Z FOR AN UPDATE ON PROGRESS, UH, AND A TOWN HALL LATER THAT MONTH.
THAT COMMUNITY TOWN HALL WILL TALK ABOUT MORE IN A MOMENT, BUT IT'LL BE BOTH LIVE AND VIRTUAL BY SEPTEMBER.
WE HOPE TO HAVE THE THIRD, UH, TASK FORCE MEETING AND REPORT BACK TO YOU ON PHASE ONE.
AGAIN, RIGHT NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PHASE ONE REPORT BACK TO YOU, UH, SOMETIME IN OCTOBER.
THAT WILL INCLUDE, UH, A STATEMENT OF FINDINGS AND A RECOMMENDATION ON WHETHER TO MOVE FORWARD WITH PHASE TWO.
AND ASSUMING THAT PHASE TWO DOES GO FORWARD, THEN THERE'LL BE ADDITIONAL MEETINGS IN THE FALL AND WINTER OF THE TASK FORCE ITSELF.
ANOTHER CHECK-IN WITH THE COMMUNITY THROUGH A TOWN HALL IN SPRING, AND THEN REPORTING BACK TO YOU AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IN TIME TO HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY PROCESS THAT YOU DEEM APPROPRIATE.
WE'VE JUST COMPLETED THE COMMUNITY SURVEY AND HAVE RESULTS TO SHARE WITH YOU THIS EVENING.
UM, THE SURVEY RAN FROM APRIL 17TH THROUGH, UH, MAY 17TH, ONE MONTH, 6,109 UNIQUE PARTICIPANTS.
WE HAVE, UH, STRONG CONFIDENCE IN THE INTEGRITY OF THE RESULTS.
UM, SO A FEW, UH, AND, AND I'LL JUST MENTION THERE THAT, UM, WE EMPLOYED A NUMBER OF STRATEGIES TO ENSURE THAT THOSE RESULTS DO HAVE A HIGH LEVEL INTEGRITY, UH, BOT DETECTION, LOOKING AT TIMING ON THE SURVEYS, GEOFENCING, LOOKING AT WHERE U URL'S ORIGINATED, A RANDOMIZATION OF QUESTIONS, RANDOMIZATION OF ANSWERS, AND THEN, UH, MANUAL OVERSIGHT.
WHEN ANY OF THOSE ISSUES WERE FLAGGED, WE DID NOT SEE ANY ANOMALIES OR HAVE ANY PROBLEMS THAT RAISE A RED FLAG FOR US.
SO THE TOP LINE RESULTS REALLY QUICKLY.
A VERY STRONG MAJORITY OF YOUR RESPONDENT'S REPORT, THEY WOULD BE VERY UNCOMFORTABLE HAVING AN S T R ON THEIR BLOCK, 64%, ANOTHER 10% SAID THEY WOULD BE MODERATELY UNCOMFORTABLE.
ONLY ABOUT 31% WERE SURE THAT THEY LIVE NEAR AN SDR OR BELIEVE THAT THEY LIVE NEAR AN SD R 44%.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, 26% REPORTED THAT THEY DID NOT, UH, LIVE
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NEAR AN T R.BUT ABOUT 78% OF RESPONDENTS, UM, SAY THEY HAVE NOT EXPERIENCED ANY BENEFITS.
WELL, THIS IS, HAVE YOU EXPERIENCED ANY BENEFITS? ABOUT 78% SAID NO, THEY'VE NOT PERSONALLY EXPERIENCED THAT.
WHEREAS ALMOST THE REVERSE 79% BELIEVE THAT LIVING NEXT TO AN S ST R DECREASES PROPERTY VALUES.
QUICKLY THROUGH THE QUESTIONS YOU, UH, EITHER HAVE BEEN GIVEN OR WILL BE GIVEN A REPORT THAT DETAILS THIS.
UH, AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, IT WILL ALSO BE PUT ON THE WEBSITE LATER TONIGHT, AND THEN WE'LL BE DISCUSSING IT IN MUCH GREATER DETAIL AT THE FIRST TASK FORCE MEETING.
WHEN YOU'RE TRAVELING, DO YOU USE SHORT-TERM RENTALS? YOU CAN SEE THE PLURALITIES SAY NEVER, AND THEN A FEW, UH, ABOUT 30% SAY SOMETIMES, UH, RARELY, AND JUST A FEW REGULARLY USE, UH, STR.
HOW WOULD YOU FEEL ABOUT HAVING ONE ON YOUR BLOCK? WE SAW THIS EARLIER, A STRONG MAJORITY OR CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
DO YOU THINK IT, UH, AFFECTS, UH, PROPERTY VALUES? UH, VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE.
ABOUT 3% BELIEVE IT INCREASES PROPERTY VALUES.
UH, A SUPER MAJORITY BELIEVE THAT HAS A NEGATIVE EFFECT ON PROPERTY VALUES.
WHAT SORTS OF NUISANCES, UH, NUISANCES SHOULD THE CITY, UH, ADDRESS FURTHER, UH, PARTIES, NOISE, TRASH, PARKING, AND COMMERCIAL USES IN THAT ORDER, AS YOU CAN SEE.
AND THEN, WHICH OF THE FOLLOWING KINDS OF, UH, UH, REGULATION MIGHT BE, UH, BENEFICIAL? AND, UH, REGISTRATION YOU CAN SEE IS THE, WAS THE LEADER ALSO OVER 50%, UH, LIMITING DENSITY, AND THEN, UH, REQUIRING PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY INSPECTIONS, FOLLOWED BY THE OTHER OPTIONS.
DO YOU CURRENTLY LIVE NEAR A SHORT TERM RENTAL? WE TOUCHED ON THIS IN THE TOP LINE RESULTS, UH, MANY PEOPLE ARE UNSURE.
DO YOU ADVERTISE PROPERTY FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS? VERY FEW OF THE RESPONDENTS TO THIS SURVEY REPORT HAVING ADVERTISED SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
AND THEN, HAVE YOU PERSONALLY EXPERIENCED ANY OF THE FOLLOWING BENEFITS? AGAIN, WE TOUCHED ON THIS, MOST PEOPLE SAID NONE.
NO, THEY HAVE NOT EXPERIENCED BENEFITS WITH SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
HAVE YOU EXPERIENCED ANY OF THE FOLLOWING CHALLENGES? ON THE OTHER HAND, UH, YOU CAN SEE, UH, QUITE A FEW PEOPLE SAID NONE, BUT MANY PEOPLE, UH, SAID PARKING, SAFETY, UH, AND ON DOWN THE LIST, IF YOU PERSONALLY EXPERIENCE WITH, UH, ISSUES, THEN DID YOU SEEK RESOLUTION? SO YOU'VE EXPERIENCED AN ISSUE, DID YOU SEEK RESOLUTION? AND HERE 60% SAID NO, BUT I'M GONNA ELABORATE ON THAT FURTHER IN JUST A MOMENT.
60% SAID NO, AND YOU CAN SEE A SERIES OF ISSUES WHERE PEOPLE REPORTED, UM, REACHING OUT TO THE SDR, HOSTED LAW ENFORCEMENT NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS.
NOW, TO PUT THAT IN A LITTLE MORE NUANCE, THOSE 60% SAID NO, THAT'S A LITTLE MISLEADING BECAUSE WE HAD BOTH PAPER COPIES AND ELECTRONIC COPIES AVAILABLE.
WE WANTED THE SURVEYS TO, TO, UH, MIRROR EACH OTHER CLOSELY, WHICH MEANT THAT YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY IN THE ELECTRONIC SURVEY, EVEN THOUGH YOU'D SAID YOU WEREN'T AFFECTED TO STILL SAY NO ON THAT QUESTION.
AND QUITE A FEW PEOPLE EITHER GOT CONFUSED OR, OR FOR WHATEVER REASON, UH, CHOSE THAT OPTION.
SO IF YOU TAKE THOSE PEOPLE OUT BY CROSS TAPPING THEM, BY CROSS, CROSS-REFERENCING THOSE PEOPLE, THEN YOU SEE A LITTLE LESS THAN 40% OF FOLKS NOT 60, BUT A LITTLE LESS THAN 40% SOUGHT RESOLUTION, AND THEN WE'RE NOT SATISFIED.
UM, AGAIN, MORE ABOUT, UH, PEOPLE'S PERSONAL EXPERIENCES WITH RESOLUTION AND WHETHER IT WAS RESOLVED AND THEN SOME DEMOGRAPHIC QUESTIONS TOWARDS THE END.
THESE WERE THE ONES THAT WERE NOT RANDOMIZED.
SO IN SOME OF THESE, THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF FALL OFF FROM PARTICIPATION, BUT I'LL TELL YOU THAT OVERALL WE SAW VERY HIGH PARTICIPATION AND, UM, UH, VERY HIGH STAMINA THROUGH THE SURVEY SO THAT PEOPLE TENDED TO COMPLETE THE SURVEY.
MOST PEOPLE SELF-REPORT AS OWNING OR RESIDING AT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY IN PLANO, THE GREAT MAJORITY OF RESPONDENTS.
AND THEN AGE RANGE, YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, FOLKS 55 AND OLDER AND PARTICULARLY 45 AND OLDER ARE A LITTLE OVERREPRESENTED HERE.
THAT WAS THE MAJORITY OF THE SURVEY THAT COMPARES TO YOUR OVERALL AGE POPULATION IN THE CITY, UM, HERE.
SO AGAIN, KEEP IN MIND THAT YOUNGER PEOPLE WERE SOMEWHAT UNDERREPRESENTED IN THE SURVEY, AND THAT'S RELEVANT BECAUSE YOUNGER PEOPLE ALSO REPORTED, UH, HAVING MUCH MORE TOLERANCE
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FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND EXPERIENCING FEWER PROBLEMS OR CONCERNS ABOUT SHORT-TERM RENTALS.UM, MOST PEOPLE WHO, UH, TOOK THE SURVEY WERE LONG-TIME RESIDENTS.
AND, UH, YOU CAN SEE HERE A SPREAD OF ZIP CODES IN THE APPENDIX.
WE HAVE THE ADDITIONAL 3% BROKEN OUT, SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE THOSE, UH, ZIP CODES COME FROM.
UH, FINALLY, UH, MOST PEOPLE LIVED IN A MANDATORY HOA, ALTHOUGH THERE WAS SOME, UH, VARIETY THERE.
THAT'S THE SURVEY AGAIN, UH, THAT WILL BE POSTED ON THE WEBSITE.
AND, UH, THERE WILL BE INFORMATION, UH, IN, IN THE PACKETS THAT YOU'VE RECEIVED MORE DETAILS.
VERY QUICKLY, I WANNA WALK YOU THROUGH A FEW OTHER ITEMS. THE TASK FORCE ITSELF, YOU ALL HAVE APPOINTED 20 MEMBERS AND THREE ALTERNATES UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF, UH, PHIL DYER.
I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF GETTING TO KNOW OVER THE LAST, UH, FEW DAYS.
UH, WE ANTICIPATE THREE MEETINGS IN THIS PHASE, ONE WITH ADDITIONAL MEETINGS IN PHASE TWO AFTER A REPORT BACK TO COUNCIL.
UM, THE FIRST MEETING COMING UP JUNE 29TH WILL REALLY BE DESIGNED TO GET TASKFORCE MEMBERS COMFORTABLE WITH THE PROCESS, COMFORTABLE WITH EACH OTHER.
SO WE'LL HAVE BACKGROUND PLANNING, BACKGROUND, LEGAL BRIEFINGS FOR ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE TASK FORCE, GIVE EVERYONE ON THE TASK FORCE A CHANCE TO EXPLAIN THEIR PERSPECTIVE AND HOW THEY CAME TO BE ON THE TASK FORCE.
GO THROUGH THIS COMMUNITY SURVEY THAT YOU'VE SEEN IN BRIEF, IN MUCH MORE DETAIL, AND ESTABLISH GROUND RULES AND EXPECTATIONS FOR THE TASK FORCE AS IT MOVES FORWARD.
WE, WE PLAN TO ORGANIZE THE TASKFORCE DISCUSSIONS AROUND FOUR OVERARCHING QUESTIONS.
DO SHORT-TERM RENTALS AFFECT THE QUALITY OF LIFE IF PLANO RESIDENTS, I THINK MANY PEOPLE WILL COME WITH, UH, AN ANSWER ALREADY IN MIND FOR THAT, BUT WE WANT TO PUT THAT OUT TO THE, TO THE GROUP AS A WHOLE.
ARE THERE PLACES IN PLANO THAT THEY'RE APPROPRIATE TO OPERATE? HOW SHOULD WE THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE? AND HOW BEST CAN THE CITY ADDRESSES TRRS? WE'LL HAVE SOME SUBSECTIONS TO THOSE QUESTIONS TO HELP PEOPLE TEASE THEM OUT.
AND I WANT TO GIVE YOU JUST A BRIEF GLIMPSE OF THOSE.
SO, UH, TO SHORT TERM RENTALS AFFECT QUALITY OF LIFE IN PLANO.
WE WANT PEOPLE TO THINK ABOUT IS THAT A NEGATIVE OR A POSITIVE EFFECT? AND IS THERE EVIDENCE, UH, THAT THE CITY CAN POINT TO? UH, WHAT IS THAT EVIDENCE? IF THERE'S NOT EVIDENCE? ARE WE ASKING THE RIGHT QUESTIONS? ARE WE COLLECTING THE RIGHT DATA? WHERE ELSE MIGHT WE TURN TO EVIDENCE AND GET SUPPORT FROM THE TASK FORCE ON THAT? ARE WE SHARING IT IN THE RIGHT WAYS, REPORTING IN THE RIGHT WAYS? QUESTION TWO, ARE THERE PLACES IN PLANER THAT ARE APPROPRIATE FOR SDRS TO OPERATE? AND WE WANT TO LOOK AT HOW MANY SDRS ARE CURRENTLY OPERATING THE PLANO AREA WITH HELP FROM YOUR STAFF, REALLY GETTING SOME CONFIDENCE FOR THE TASK FORCE AROUND THAT, THAT THEY CAN RECOMMEND BACK TO YOU AS A FINDING.
AND ARE THERE CERTAIN GEOGRAPHIC AREAS OR TYPES OF LAND USE THAT MIGHT BE MORE OR LESS APPROPRIATE, MORE OR LESS COMPATIBLE, WHETHER THAT'S COMMERCIAL OR MULTI-FAMILY? HOW SHOULD WE THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE IN REGARD TO STR? SO AS YOU THINK ABOUT THE ISSUES THAT CITIES ARE GRAPPLING WITH ACROSS THE COUNTRY, THE CHANGES IN THE SHARE ECONOMY, IT CHANGES IN AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES, OFTEN THERE ARE, UH, TREND LINES THAT WE'VE ONLY JUST BEGUN TO THINK ABOUT.
SO AS YOU STRUGGLE WITH, UH, HOW TO DEFINE REGULATE A DEAL WITH STR, WE WANT TO TASK FORCE HELP IN GETTING AHEAD OF THAT QUESTION.
CAN WE ANTICIPATE CHANGES IN THE HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY? CAN WE ANTICIPATE CHANGES IN HOUSING OR, UH, DEMOGRAPHIC TRENDS THAT MIGHT AFFECT HOW YOU SHOULD STRUCTURE ANY PROCESS OR ANY REGULATIONS? UM, AND THEN, UH, THE LAST QUESTION REALLY IS HOW BEST CAN THE CITY ADDRESS STR UH, IF THE CITY DOES REGULATE STR BEYOND, UH, THE, UM, INTERIM BAN THAT YOU'VE TAKEN BEYOND ANY, UH, OTHER ACTIONS THAT YOU MAY CONTEMPLATE THIS SUMMER? WHAT BROAD TYPES OF REGULATION SHOULD BE CONSIDERED? WE WON'T BE ASKING THE TASK FORCE MEMBERS TO DRAFT AN ORDINANCE OR SPECIFIC LANGUAGE, BUT TO HELP IN BIG, BROAD PICTURES.
AND IN THE FIRST PHASE, IT'LL JUST BE REPORTING BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE P AND Z ABOUT WHETHER THERE ARE TYPES OF REGULATIONS YOU SHOULD CONSIDER, AND WHETHER PHASE TWO SHOULD GO FORWARD TO HELP THE TASK FORCE IN ITS DELIBERATIONS.
THE CITY IS PLANNING A COMMUNITY.
TOWN HALL ALLUDED TO YOU EARLIER, THAT'S SCHEDULED RIGHT NOW FOR LATE AUGUST, DESIGNED TO REALLY GET COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO COME AND SHARE ADDITIONAL OPINIONS BEYOND THE SURVEY AND A LITTLE BIT MORE DEPTH.
AND AT THE SAME TIME, SHARE WITH THEM INFORMATION AND DATA THAT THE TASK FORCE HAS UNCOVERED.
SO WE PLAN SOME INTERACTIVE ACTIVITIES WHERE PEOPLE CAN LEARN ABOUT STR IN THE COMMUNITY, ABOUT, UH, LIMITATIONS AND OPTIONS, AND THEN GIVE ADDITIONAL
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OPINIONS ABOUT WHETHER THE TASK FORCE IS HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.AND ABOUT THE, THE PRELIMINARY FINDINGS, AS I SAID, THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE IN PERSON AND FOR PEOPLE WHO WANNA SIT IN THEIR PJS ON THEIR COUCH AND, AND PARTICIPATE.
UH, REALLY NEXT STEPS IS THE TASK FORCE MEETING ON THE 29TH, AND, UH, WE'LL BE POSTING THIS PRESENTATION ALONG WITH THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL COMMUNITY SURVEY ON THE WEBSITE LATER THIS EVENING FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS.
THAT'S OUR UPDATE AND CONCLUDES THE REPORT.
YOU HAVE A QUESTION, SHELBY? HOLD ON.
SO I HAD TWO QUESTIONS ON QUESTION NUMBER.
QUESTION NUMBER FOUR, WHERE YOU ASKED ABOUT THE NUISANCES AND, UM, THEM BEING TREATED AS OTHER TYPES OF HOUSING AND WHICH ONES PEOPLE WOULD WANT US TO ADDRESS.
WAS THERE AN OPPOR, WERE THEY LIMITED TO THESE FIVE OPTIONS OR WAS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO PUT ADDITIONAL COMMENTS IF THEY HAD OTHER IDEAS? WE PRESENTED OPTIONS, BUT WE ALSO HAD OPEN-ENDED POSSIBILITIES FOR PEOPLE, UM, AT THE END OF THE SURVEY TO COME BACK AND MAKE ANY COMMENTS OR ANY ADDITIONAL, UH, SUGGESTIONS.
AND WHEN YOU SEE THE APPENDIX, UH, I BELIEVE THE APPENDIX IS NOT INCLUDED IN YOUR REPORT, BUT IT WILL BE UP ON THE WEBSITE.
UH, PEOPLE WERE VERY FREE WITH THEIR COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS.
AND THEN MY SECOND QUESTION WAS ADDRESSING WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE YOUNG PEOPLE BEING UNDERREPRESENTED.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THIS SINCE Y'ALL HAVEN'T HAD YOUR FIRST MEETING YET, BUT MAYBE OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT, UM, PUT THE TASK FORCE TOGETHER.
DO WE HAVE ANY YOUNG PEOPLE ON THE COMMITTEE OR, I DON'T BELIEVE THE AGE, UH, WAS LISTED ON THE APPLICATION.
YEAH, YOU COULD KIND OF EXTRAPOLATE BY MAYBE SOMEBODY'S EXPERIENCE LEVEL.
UH, BUT AS FAR AS BEING ABLE TO SAY, YEAH, AVERAGE AGE IS PROBABLY 35 OR 65, WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS UPDATE ON, UH, ONE OF THE SURVEY QUESTIONS.
UM, AND I'M PARAPHRASING HERE ABOUT WHAT, UH, DO YOU THINK COULD BE DONE ABOUT, UH, SHORT-TERM RENTALS? UM, ONE OF THE SURVEY OPTIONS, THE RESPONSE OPTIONS WAS NOT, UH, PROHIBIT SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
CAN YOU TELL ME WHY THAT WAS NOT AN OPTION? UH, YES, COUNCIL MEMBER, WE SIMPLY DIDN'T WANT TO PREJUDGE THAT IN TERMS OF TALKING TO THE COMMUNITY.
WE RECOGNIZE THAT THE COUNCIL MAY HAVE ITS OWN, UH, POSITION AND WE'VE ATTENDED SOME OF THE MEETINGS OR WE'VE HEARD RESIDENTS EXPRESS REAL CONCERNS.
BUT IN TERMS OF STARTING OUT THIS PROCESS, WE DIDN'T WANT TO PREJUDGE THAT.
UH, WE THINK THAT'S GOOD PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
BUT FURTHER, UH, IF, IF THIS, UH, IF YOU ALL DO TAKE ACTION AT THE END OF THIS AND THAT IS TESTED, IT SEEMS TO US THAT IT WOULD BE USEFUL NOT TO HAVE PREJUDGED AN OUTCOME.
I'M NOT SURE IF ONE OF NUMEROUS OPTIONS THAT IT WOULD BE PREJUDGING IT.
UM, BUT BY LEAVING IT OFF, IT SEEMS TO SEE THE IDEA AND THE SURVEY RESPONDENTS THAT, UM, THEY HAVE TO BE ALLOWED.
AND WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT HOW BEST TO, UH, WORK WITH THEM.
THAT WAS NOT OUR INTENT COUNCIL MEMBER.
I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO LAY OUT, UH, VARIOUS OPTIONS, BUT WE'LL BE MINDFUL OF THAT AND, AND HELP EXPLAIN THAT TO THE TASK FORCE IF THERE'S A MISPERCEPTION THERE.
UM, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THAT PRESENTATION AND, AND THE WORK THAT Y'ALL HAVE DONE SO FAR.
I, I APPRECIATE THE GREAT SURVEY RESULTS AND, UH, AND THE WORK THAT WENT INTO THAT, AND THE WORK THAT WE'LL BE GOING INTO, UH, THIS ENTIRE PROCESS.
UM, ALL OF THAT BEING SAID, UH, I, I DID HAVE, UH, SOME CONCERNS WITH THE, UH, WITH THE PROCESS THAT, THAT WAS OUTLINED IN THE, THE PACKET.
UM, AS, AS, AS WE ALL MAY RECALL, UH, SOME OF US EXPRESSED CONCERNS ABOUT THE COMPOSITION OF THE TASK FORCE, UH, WHEN, UH, WHEN THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY, UH, RECOMMENDED.
UM, AND THOSE CONCERNS WERE ADDRESSED AT THAT MEETING BY SAYING THAT THE, THAT THE TASK FORCE WOULD HAVE A, A LIMITED ROLE THAT IT WOULD, UM, YOU KNOW, SPECIFICALLY, YOU KNOW, I ASKED THE QUESTION, WOULD THIS BE MORE LIKE THE, UH, OAK POINT STEERING COMMITTEE, UH, THAN, UH, THE C P R C? AND, UH, IT FEELS TO ME AT LEAST LIKE THAT IS NOW CHANGING.
UM, AND THAT THIS PROPOSAL IS IN FACT DIRECTLY CONTRADICTORY TO PRIOR
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COUNSEL DIRECTION.UM, IT LOOKS LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, CONTRARY TO WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT PREVIOUSLY, WHICH I BELIEVE INCLUDED THAT THERE WOULD BE NO, UM, POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE TASK FORCE, THAT IT WOULD BE A DATA GATHERING MECHANISM, WHICH I FULLY SUPPORT.
I THINK WE SHOULD LISTEN TO EVERYONE, BUT I THINK WE PREVIOUSLY TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, NOT MAKING IT INTO A C P R C, NOT HAVING THAT KIND OF A PROCESS THIS TIME.
AND, AND, AND AGAIN, IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE DOING THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE PARTICIPANTS ARE, ARE BEING, UH, APPOINTED FOR REASONS THAT INCLUDE, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT THEY ARE AFFILIATED WITH AIRBNB OR V R B O, UH, WHICH ARE OBVIOUSLY ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE A DIRECT FINANCIAL INTEREST IN THE OUTCOME OF THIS DISCUSSION.
SO TO ME, IF THE, IF, IF WE'RE GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE THE TASK FORCE IS VOTING, IT FEELS LIKE THERE MIGHT EVEN BE, YOU KNOW, A CONFLICT OF INTEREST IN, IN MAKING THAT RECOMMENDATION.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I, I BASICALLY, I THINK WE SPECIFICALLY TALKED ABOUT THE TASK FORCE, NOT MAKING POLICY PROPOSALS, BUT INSTEAD BEING A SOUNDING BOARD, BEING A DATA GATHERING MECHANISM, WHICH AGAIN, I, I, I FULLY SUPPORT.
UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S CERTAINLY A VALUABLE DATA POINT.
I APPRECIATE ALL OF, UH, YOU KNOW, THE EFFORT THAT OUR EXCELLENT FORMER MAYOR DYER AND, AND THE OTHER TASK FORCE MEMBERS ARE GOING TO PUT IN.
BUT I JUST THINK WE SHOULD STICK WITH THE DATA GATHERING FUNCTION THAT WE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED.
I WILL ALSO POINT OUT A COMMENT, UH, MADE BY THE PREVIOUS OCCUPANT OF THIS CHAIR, AND I BELIEVE OTHERS.
ALTHOUGH SAME, SAME NAME, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, COURSE RICK.
WE'VE, WE'VE, WE'VE, WE'VE HAD A RICK CHANGE, BUT, YOU KNOW, BUT, BUT ANYWAY,
UM, BUT, BUT YOU KNOW, FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER GRADY POINTED OUT, AND I, I BELIEVE THE MAYOR PRO 10 MAY HAVE ECHOED THIS, THAT THE C PRC PROCESS WAS A LONG PROCESS.
AND IT IS HARD FOR A GROUP LIKE THE C P R C OR LIKE THIS TASK FORCE, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THAT IT IS BEING APPOINTED PRECISELY BECAUSE YOU HAVE PEOPLE FROM WIDELY DIVERGENT VIEWS ON THIS TASK FORCE.
YOU KNOW, I, I REMEMBER COUNCIL MEMBER GRADY SAYING, THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO AGREE ON SOMETHING, AND I WANT TO ECHO THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO AGREE ON SOMETHING.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, I I, I THOUGHT THAT WAS VALUABLE WITH THE C P PRC BECAUSE WE HAD A BIG ISSUE TO WORK THROUGH.
IT WAS APPROPRIATE, IT WAS WORTHWHILE TO GO THROUGH IT THERE.
BUT I MEAN, WE, WE'VE GOT A TIMEFRAME HERE.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE, UH, UH, AN INTERIM BAND EXPIRING IN MAY OF 2024.
I, I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT PROCESS FOR THIS, UH, PARTICULAR PROCESS.
I THINK WE SHOULD STICK WITH THE DATA GATHERING FUNCTION AND NOT GET INTO A, YOU KNOW, A POLICY FORMULATION ROLE FOR THE TASK FORCE.
SO, UM, SO, YOU KNOW, UH, THINGS LIKE FOUR B, QUESTION FOUR B ON THE, ON, ON WHAT WAS OUTLINED, WHICH IS, WHICH IS MAKING A POLICY RECOMMENDATION.
UH, THERE WAS A MENTION IN THE MATERIALS IN THE PACKET OF FINAL DELIBERATIONS AND DECISIONS, UM, WHICH AGAIN, WOULD OF COURSE BE, YOU KNOW, THEN GO TO THE P AND Z AND THEN THE COUNCIL.
BUT I JUST, I REALLY FEEL STRONGLY THAT WE SHOULD STICK WITH THE PRIOR DIRECTION GIVEN BY THIS COUNCIL, UM, ON, WHICH I CERTAINLY RELIED IN, IN VOTING ON THE APPOINTMENT OF THE TASK FORCE WITH THE MEMBERSHIP THAT IT HAS.
UM, AND THAT THERE WOULD BE, UH, NO POLICY FORMULATIONS OR RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE TASK FORCE, AND ALSO NO INVOLVEMENT IN PHASE TWO, BECAUSE I THINK IN, IN TERMS OF BEING A TOUCHSTONE OR A SOUNDING BOARD FOR THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE ELECTED.
SO, YOU KNOW, ANYWAY, THAT, THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS, COUNCILMAN, I, I THINK I'D, I'D LIKE TO REQUEST SOME ADDITIONAL CLARIFICATION ON THAT.
UM, BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE APPOINT GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS OF APPOINTING AN, AN AD HOC COMMITTEE, UH, OF CITIZENS TO REPRESENT A, A BROAD ARRAY, UH, OF PERSPECTIVES IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND WE CONTINUE TO, TO WANT TO LISTEN TO THE CITIZENS SURVEYING AND, AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
BUT I, I NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, FROM A CLARIFICATION PERSPECTIVE, IF WE'VE PUT TOGETHER A, A, A TASK FORCE AND A COMMITTEE OF CITIZENS, WHAT EXACTLY ARE THEY GOING TO BE DOING TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK AND INPUT ON THIS IF THEY'RE NOT PROVIDING A RECOMMENDATION BACK TO YOU? IS IT, IS IT JUST THAT THEY PROVIDE, UH, I MEAN, UH, A, A WIDE PERSPECTIVE OF OPINIONS OR WHAT IS IT EXACTLY THAT WE'RE CHARGING TO DO? BECAUSE WITHOUT THAT CLARITY, I, I THINK WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE TAKING UP A, A LOT OF TIME FROM SOME CITIZENS ON A POTENTIALLY SENSITIVE TOPIC, AND I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A CLEAR CHARGE.
SO WHAT, WHAT MY UNDERSTANDING OF IT WAS, WAS THAT IT, IT WOULD ESSENTIALLY JUST BE, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD COME UP WITH A REPORT, YOU KNOW, COLLECTING ALL OF THESE DATA POINTS, COLLECTING VIEWS, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, HERE, YOU KNOW, THIS MEMBER EXPRESSED THIS VIEW, THAT MEMBER EXPRESSED THAT VIEW THAT THERE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, A WRITTEN REPORT TO THE P AND Z AND THE COUNCIL.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF, OF POLICY FORMULATION AND RECOMMENDATIONS, I, I, I, YOU KNOW, UNLESS MY MEMORY IS GOING MORE THAN I REALIZE IT IS, I, I, I, I THINK WE DISCUSSED NOT HAVING THE TASK FORCE HAVE THAT ROLE, AND, YOU KNOW, SO THAT WAS SURPRISING TO ME TO SEE THAT COME BACK, UM, IN, IN THAT WAY.
I, I THOUGHT THEY WOULD ESSENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, HAVE THE TOWN HALL, THEY WOULD GATHER OPINIONS, THEY, THEY WOULD EXPRESS THEIR OWN OPINIONS, AND
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ALL OF THAT WOULD BE REFLECTED IN A REPORT.UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE EVEN COMMENTING ON, ON VARIOUS OPTIONS, BUT NOT, YOU KNOW, SAYING, YOU KNOW, THE TASK FORCE VOTED 13 TO SEVEN, YOU KNOW, TO, TO RECOMMEND THIS POLICY OR THAT POLICY.
I THINK IT, YOU KNOW, I, I BELIEVE THE WORDS WE USED WERE DATA GATHERING.
AND, UM, AND, AND I THINK WE, I, I, I COULD BE WRONG, I HAVEN'T WATCHED THAT MEETING TODAY, BUT I THINK WE SAID THAT THERE WOULD NOT BE, UH, POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS COMING OUT OF THE TASK FORCE.
AND, UM, AND IN ANY EVENT, I THINK WE'RE GONNA RUN INTO HUGE LOGISTICAL HURDLES IF WE DO THAT SIMILAR TO THE C P R C, BUT COUNCILMAN I, I, GO AHEAD FOR CLARIFICATION AGAIN, IF, IF THEY'RE ALLOWED TO PROVIDE THEIR PERSPECTIVE AND THEN COMMENT ON SOMEBODY ELSE'S PURSUING THAT, ISN'T THAT IN FACT MAKING A RECOMMENDATION IN SOME FORM OR FASHION? AND I'M, I'M NOT, I'M NOT MEANING TO PUSH BACK.
I, I MEAN THIS IN, IN WITH ABSOLUTE SINCERITY.
THIS MEANS A LOT TO THE COMMUNITY AND, AND IT NEEDS TO BE AN ANSWER THAT WORKS.
BUT I THINK FOR CLARITY PERSPECTIVE AND HOW WE'RE, HOW WE'RE RUNNING THIS AND HOW WE'RE COLLECTING THIS INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ALREADY HAVE THE SURVEY DATA, SO WE ALREADY HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
W I I'M NOT SURE THAT WE NEED MORE TO DO WITH THAT IF WE'RE LOOKING FOR INCLUDING ADDITIONAL PERSPECTIVES ON THAT SURVEY DATA IF WE'RE LOOKING AT, AT CONTINUING TO GATHER THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S A TASK FORCE OR COMMITTEE.
SO I, AGAIN, I THINK FROM, YOU KNOW, A SOUNDING BOARD AND EVERYTHING ELSE, I'M STILL LOOKING FOR ADDITIONAL CLARITY ON WHAT EXACTLY THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING IF WE'RE ASKING THESE, THESE FOLKS TO DEVOTE THEIR TIME TOWARDS THIS IMPORTANT TOPIC.
SO, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, AND I, I WOULD, I WOULD YIELD THE DEPUTY MAYOR PROTE TOO.
I JUST WANNA SAY, Y YOU MAY REMEMBER, WE, WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS, AND, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THE UPSHOT OF THAT DISCUSSION WAS ESSENTIALLY THAT Y YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'S PERHAPS THE, UH, SURVEY IS MORE RESIDENT FOCUSED.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE TASK FORCE MIGHT HAVE A, A BIGGER WAITING TOWARD INDUSTRY.
AND SO ESSENTIALLY, I SAW THAT THIS AS THE COUNTERPOINT TO THE SURVEY, YOU KNOW, THAT THERE IS Y YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE SOLICITING THE VIEWS OF INDUSTRY IN ADDITION TO THE VIEWS O OF OUR RESIDENTS AND THAT WE'LL HAVE ALL OF THE INFORMATION IN FRONT OF US.
BUT I'M, I'M VERY INTERESTED IN WHAT DEPUTY MERO HAVE TAKEN THAT I I AGREE.
I'M, I AGREE WITH, UM, WHAT COUNCIL RICK COUNCILMAN RICK DE IS SAYING, I, I BELIEVE WHEN I REMEMBER THE REASON FOR THE TASK FORCE WAS BECAUSE WE WERE, WE WERE GETTING A LOT OF INFORMATION FROM PEOPLE WHO WERE COMING IN FRONT OF US AND A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, PROTESTS AND A LOT OF DEMONSTRATIONS, BUT WE WEREN'T HEARING FROM THE ENTIRE INDUSTRY, YOU KNOW, INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE COMMERCIAL, THE, THE REAL, THE REAL ESTATE REPRESENTATIVES MM-HMM.
SO I, I THOUGHT THE TASK FORCE WAS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A, UH, A SORT OF A, A ETHAN GROUND FOR EVERYONE TO PARTICIPATE AND VOICE THEIR INTEREST AND THEIR CONCERNS.
AND IT WAS, AND THEN, SO ONCE THAT VOICE IS GIVEN TO, UM, WHOEVER IS LEADING THE TASK FORCE, THEN THAT PERSON WILL MAKE A REPORT UP TO THE CITY COUNCIL SO THAT WE CAN GET A, A FULL, UH, VIEW OF WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS OUT THERE OTHER THAN JUST A RESIDENTIAL SURVEY.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT ANYTHING ABOUT RECOMMENDATION FOR A POLICY WAS EVER MENTIONED.
AND I, I GOTTA AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT.
COUNCILMAN SMITH, COUNCILMAN STAFF.
HOLD ON, HOLD ON JUST A SEC, SHELBY, UH, UH, THANK YOU, MAYOR.
UH, COUNCILMAN RECORD, I THINK IS, IS, IS MAKES SOME MAKING SOME GREAT POINTS AND E ECHO ABOUT, UH, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TIM, UH, JUST LEMME SAY, I REMEMBER WE HAD THESE SAME CONCERNS WHEN WE APPOINTED THE CITIZEN COMMITTEE FOR THE, THE PLANNING, YOU KNOW, REVIEWS.
AND WE HAD, LET'S, LET'S FACE IT, WE HAD PROBABLY 50 50 ON EITHER SIDE.
WE DIDN'T THINK THEY WOULD EVER GET TOGETHER ON ANYTHING, AND THAT TURNED OUT GREAT.
ULTIMATELY THOUGH, IT WAS OUR DECISION.
WE TAKE THE INPUT AND WE DECIDE WHAT'S THE BEST THING, YOU KNOW, BEST THING TO DO BASED ON THAT INFORMATION.
I THINK THIS TIME IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO GET AS MUCH INFORMATION AS WE CAN ON THE SHORT TERM RENTAL SITUATION.
THE ONLY WAY WE CAN DO THAT BEST TO MAKE AN APPROPRIATE DECISION IS TO HAVE INFORMATION FROM ALL SIDES.
THAT'S WHAT COUNCILMAN HOMER AND I TRIED TO DO, AND I THINK COUNCIL HAD DIRECTED TO DO, IS TO PUT TOGETHER A, A MIX OF, OF BOTH SIDES AND ALL SIDES.
SOME MAY BE SORT OF NEUTRAL AND OTHERS, ONE SIDE OF HERE, ANOTHER OVER HERE, AND LET THEM DISCUSS THINGS.
SO YES, IT, IT, IT, IT MAYBE THEY DON'T COME TOGETHER IN A COHESIVE RECOMMENDATION, BUT WE WILL GET, WE WILL GET DATA THAT WE CAN USE, AND THEN ULTIMATELY IT IS, IT'S OUR DECISION TO MAKE BASED ON THE INFORMATION.
SO THIS IS GONNA BE ONE POINT OF INFORMATION.
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I THINK THE SURVEY IS, IS, IS A GOOD, UH, GOOD STEP.AND, AND, AND ONE QUESTION I HAD IN YOUR EXPERIENCE.
WE HAD WHAT, A LITTLE OVER 6 60, 100 CORRECT, UH, RESPONDENTS, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS, WAS GOOD.
WE, FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE, BASED ON OUR POPULATION.
WHAT, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT NUMBER? I THOUGHT IT WAS A VERY STRONG SURVEY RESPONSE.
AND NOT ONLY DID YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE COMPLETE, UH, TAKE THE SURVEY, BUT YOU HAD A TREMENDOUS NUMBER COMPLETE THE SURVEY.
AND IT SHOWS I THINK, SOME, SOME REAL INTEREST IN THE TOPIC BECAUSE WE SAW LESS FALL OFF, YOU KNOW, FROM THE FIRST QUESTION TO THE LAST THAN WE, THAN WE, AND THESE WERE THROUGH THE METHODOLOGY YOU USED.
THEY WEREN'T BOTS OR THEY WEREN'T PEOPLE TAKING IT MULTIPLE TIMES.
WE HAVE A HIGH CONFIDENCE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN NEVER SAY WITH ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY THERE WASN'T A BOT IN THERE.
BUT WE HAVE HIGH CONFIDENCE THAT, THAT THERE'S A, A HIGH DEGREE OF INTEGRITY IN THE SURVEY, AND YOU HAD SEVERAL THOUSAND MORE PEOPLE WHO CAME TO THE SITE AND LOOKED AT IT, UH, BUT THEN DIDN'T TAKE THE SURVEY AT ALL.
SO, SO I'D SUGGEST IF THEY, ALL GOOD SUGGESTIONS, LET'S GET THE FIRST MEETING OVER WITH JUNE.
IF EV IF EVERYBODY GETS OUT OF THERE UNSCATHED AND, YOU KNOW, WE GET GOOD FEEDBACK AND COUNCILMAN HOMER AND I WOULD BE THERE WITH OUR FACILITATORS TO TRY TO KEEP THINGS UNEVEN KEEL.
BUT, UH, I, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE FINE.
YOU, YOU CAN NEVER GO WRONG WITH MORE INFORMATION.
AND I, I THINK THAT'S ALL WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE HERE IS MORE INFORMATION TO HELP US ALONG.
COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS? UH, YES, THANK YOU MAYOR.
DO RECALL THAT A PRIOR DISCUSSION, BECAUSE I ASKED THAT THE TASK FORCE WAS NOT TO BE A DECISION MAKING OR VOTING BODY OKAY.
PLEASE CAN, CAN I CLARIFY? CAN I GO AHEAD FOR SOMETHING? SO, UM,
AND WHAT WE HAD, UH, PUT AT ONE TIME IN A DRAFT, BUT IT KIND OF, YOU GUYS APPOINTED BEFORE WE EVER BROUGHT A RESOLUTION, IS THAT THE TASK FORCE WILL PROVIDE INPUT TO THE CONSULTANT AS TO THE APPROPRIATE BALANCE OF INTEREST AND THAT THE CONSULTANT GAP STRATEGIES WILL BRING A REPORT TO COUNCIL.
AND THE OTHER THING THAT WE DID THOUGH, WHEN MAYOR DYER HAD ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT THE VOTING IS THAT I THINK TO, THEY WON'T VOTE LIKE YOU SAY, ON A RECOMMENDATION, BUT THAT TO DETERMINE IF A MAJORITY SUPPO SUPPORT THIS IDEA OR DON'T SUPPORT, THEY MAY DO HAND VOTING JUST TO SEE HOW MANY SUPPORT OR DON'T SUPPORT CERTAIN IDEAS.
AND I'LL, I'LL TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, PERSONALLY, I'M, I'M NOT PERSONALLY COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, BUT IF I'M IN THE MINORITY, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO BE LABOR THE POINT.
I JUST, YOU KNOW, I DID NOT ANTICIPATE THIS BEING A VOTING BODY.
AND, AND BY THE WAY, I WANNA BE VERY CLEAR TO COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH AND COUNCIL MEMBER HOMER, I THINK Y'ALL DID A GREAT JOB AND DID EXACTLY WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT DOING IN TERMS OF THE MEMBERSHIP OF THIS TASK FORCE.
UH, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, AND THE CRITERIA WE HAD SET, YOU KNOW, THIS MANY IN THIS CATEGORY THAT MANY IN THAT CATEGORY, I, I JUST PERSONALLY WOULD'VE ADVOCATED FOR DIFFERENT ALLOCATIONS, YOU KNOW, MORE, MORE PLANO HOMEOWNERS FOR ONE THING.
IF I HAD THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE, UM, YOU KNOW, A VOTING BODY THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD FUNCTION LIKE THE C P R C INSTEAD OF THE OAK POINT STEERING COMMITTEE, BECAUSE I, I DON'T THINK THIS TASK FORCE IS BROADLY REPRESENTATIVE OF THE CITY OF PLANO.
THANK YOU, MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, FIRST OF ALL, IF WE'VE MISSED THE MARK, WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE ADDITIONAL INSTRUCTION.
SECOND, THOUGH, I THINK IN AN EFFORT TO MOVE THROUGH THE PRESENTATION QUICKLY, I MAY HAVE CAST SHADE OR, OR DARKNESS WHERE I INTENDED TO ILLUMINATE.
AND SO LET ME STEP UP AND, AND, AND TRY AND, UM, GIVE A LITTLE FURTHER EXPLANATION ABOUT REALLY HOW WE HAVE COME TO SEE IT.
IN TALKING WITH YOUR CHAIR AND AND STAFF.
I THINK IN THAT FIRST PHASE, WE REALLY ARE DEDICATED TO FINDING COMMON GROUND ON THE COMMITTEE.
SO WE SEE VOTES AS ONLY A LAST RESORT, BUT REPORTING BACK TO COUNCIL PERHAPS IN WITH THREE SEGMENTS OF KNOWLEDGE WHERE THESE, WHERE THE TASK FORCE ACHIEVED COMMON GROUND.
THEN IF WE MUST, AND ONLY IF WE MUST, WHERE THERE WAS A REAL DIFFERENCE OF OPINION ON THE FINDINGS, THEN A SENSE OF WHAT THE MAJORITY WAS SAYING AND A SENSE OF WHAT OTHER PEOPLE WERE SAYING.
THESE IN OUR ESTIMATION ARE FINDINGS.
SO WE DID USE THE WORDS DECISIONS BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT EVEN FINDINGS CAN SOMETIMES, UH, BE TOUGH TO ARRIVE AT.
BUT IN TERMS OF POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS, TO BE CLEAR, UH, IN PHASE ONE, WE IMAGINE COMING BACK TO YOU WITH REAL FINDINGS AND MAYBE VERY, VERY BROAD SENSE OF THE COMMITTEE IN
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THINGS LIKE, YES, THEY THINK THERE SHOULD BE REGULATION, THEN IT WOULD BE, UH, UP TO THE COUNCIL IN THE P AND Z TO GIVE FURTHER INSTRUCTION FOR A PHASE TWO.AND IN PHASE TWO, THEN WE IMAGINE, AND IT MAY, IT MAY BE A FALSE IMAGINATION, BUT WE'VE IMAGINED IT WOULD BE USEFUL TO USE THE TASK FORCE AS A SOUNDING BOARD FOR STAFF IF YOU MOVE FORWARD, UH, PREPARING SOME KIND OF ORDINANCE OR DECISIONS THAT ARE STAFF LED, UH, THAT YOU WOULD HAVE SOME CITIZENS IN THERE JUST TO HELP GROUND TRUTH THAT, TO, TO HAVE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES ON IT.
AND THEN THERE WOULD BE A STAFF RECOMMENDATION ENDORSED BY THAT TASK FORCE COMING BACK.
SO I, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HELPS CLARIFY, BUT I I I HOPE IT DOES.
WELL, I I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION.
YOU KNOW, FOR ME PERSONALLY, I, I STILL, YOU KNOW, I I THINK THE FIRST PART OF THAT SOUNDS OKAY, THE KIND OF BROAD DISCUSSIONS, BUT I, I JUST, I STILL THINK THAT ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, ANYBODY THAT WOULD BE VOTING, I WOULD HOPE WOULD, WOULD REPRESENT THE CITY OF PLANO.
AND I MEAN, YOU CAN LOOK AT THE CATEGORIES THAT WE SET FORTH FOR WHO SHOULD BE ON THIS TASK FORCE.
IT WAS NOT EVEN DESIGNED TO REPRESENT THE CITY OF PLANO, THE WAY THAT THE C P RRC WAS WITH, YOU KNOW, TWO APPOINTMENTS PER COUNCIL MEMBER WHO HAD TO BE PLANO RESIDENTS AND, AND, AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
AND SO I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SEATS ON THIS TASK FORCE THAT WERE SET ASIDE FOR INDUSTRY, WHICH IS APPROPRIATE FOR DATA GATHERING.
I JUST, I THINK THAT'S NOT APPROPRIATE FOR A VOTING BODY IN, IN, IN MY PERSONAL OPINION.
SO THAT, THAT'S JUST WHERE I COME DOWN.
MR. CHRISTINA, WERE THESE ALL RESIDENTS OF PLANO? YES, THEY ARE ALL RESIDENTS OF PLANO.
UH, ALSO WANTED TO MAKE A POINT OF CLARIFICATION THAT MAY BE HELPFUL IN, IN OUR DISCUSSIONS.
THE ENVISION OAK POINT PLAN IS BEING REFERENCED REGULARLY.
AND IN THAT PROCESS WE DID HAVE MORE OF A DATA GATHERING.
IT WAS A LESS FORMAL PROCESS THAN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROCESS, BUT THERE WERE VOTES TAKEN ON THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, DOES THIS PLAN REPRESENT, UH, THE INTERESTS OF THE BODY, UM, OF THE TASK FORCE THAT WE HAD THERE.
SO IT WAS A MORE INFORMAL PROCESS, I THINK, LIKE WHAT WE'RE ENVISIONING TODAY, BUT IT WAS STILL, WE WERE TRYING TO REALLY GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF PEOPLE'S PERSPECTIVES.
AND VOTING IS, IS ONE WAY THAT YOU CAN DO THAT, EVEN IF, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT IT OBSTRUCTS THE PROCESS FROM MOVING FORWARD, BUT JUST IS THIS ACCURATELY REPRESENTING THE OPINIONS OF THE GROUP.
AND YOU KNOW, I I, I'M ONLY ONE OUT OF EIGHT.
I DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, BELABOR THE, I I THINK THAT THAT COULD BE SOMETHING I COULD GET ON BOARD WITH.
AS LONG AS IT'S NOT PRESENTED AS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, THIS IS A BODY THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE MAKING A CONCRETE POLICY PROPOSAL THAT REPRESENTS THE CITY OF PLANO AS A WHOLE.
THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, I THINK, I THINK WE CAN GET THERE.
AND, BUT I DO, I DO THINK WE, IT IS CERTAINLY IN THE PHASE ONE, ALLOW THEM TO, TO GET FAMILIAR WITH THE, THE ISSUES AND, AND TRY TO FIND COMMON GROUND.
SO I, I, AGAIN, AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S UP TO THE EIGHT OF US TO, TO MAKE THAT CALL.
CAN YOU JUST TELL ME HOW DID YOU REACH OUT TO THE TASK FORCE TO, TO, TO LET 'EM KNOW ABOUT THE UPCOMING MEETINGS? JUST HOW ARE YOU COMMUNICATING WITH THEM? UM, WE'VE SENT A LIST OF, UH, DATES TO THEM WITH A CALENDLY TYPE OF INVITE WHERE THEY COULD SELECT OPTIONS AND THEY HAVE SELECTED OPTIONS.
AND THAT'S HOW WE WERE ABLE TO, WE JUST TOOK THE DATES WHERE THE MOST PEOPLE WERE AVAILABLE.
AND SO I BELIEVE THAT HAS BEEN COMMUNICATED JUST TODAY, THE END RESULTS VIA EMAIL? UH, I BELIEVE SO.
AND JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT, THEN WE'LL BE PROVIDING TASK FORCE MEMBERS WITH A BINDER THAT'S GOT BACKGROUND INFORMATION, UH, LEGAL INFORMATION, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH YOUR CHAIR TO THINK ABOUT HOW TO WORK THAT PROCESS AND PERHAPS THESE ORGANIZING QUESTIONS, IF THAT'S THE WILL OF THE BODY.
UM, CONSENT AND REGULAR AGENDAS.
ANY ITEM, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER WOULD LIKE TO RE REMOVE? I KNOW WE'RE REMOVING ITEM Q.
SHE'S TALKING ABOUT THE SPEAKERS.
WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA COME BACK TO THE SPEAKERS.
WE'RE GONNA START THE REGULAR MEETING.
AND MAYOR, UH, YOU LIKE TO PULL, UH, ITEM E EDWARD, FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.
UH, ANY ITEMS FOR FUTURE AGENDAS? ALL RIGHT.