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WELCOME TO THE FEBRUARY 20TH PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
I CALL A MEETING TO ORDER AT 7:00 PM IF YOU WOULD PLEASE RISE AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST.
THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING IS TO ALLOW UP TO THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER WITH 30 TOTAL MINUTES ON ITEMS OF INTEREST OR CONCERN AND NOT ON ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE CURRENT AGENDA.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MAY NOT DISCUSS THESE ITEMS BUT MAY RESPOND WITH FACTUAL OR POLICY INFORMATION.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA.
THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY MODIFY THESE TIMES AS DEEMED NECESSARY.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? NO, WE DO NOT.
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MS. MOOD'S.THE CONSENT AGENDA WILL BE ACTED UPON IN ONE MOTION AND CONTAINS ITEMS WHICH ARE ROUTINE AND TYPICALLY NON-CONTROVERSIAL ITEMS MAY BE REMOVED FROM THIS AGENDA FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION BY COMMISSIONERS OR STAFF.
WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO PULL AN ITEM FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA? BEING NONE.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE? I MOVE.
WE APPROVE THE CONGEN CONSENT AGENDA HAS PRESENTED.
SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROSKY WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BRUNO.
TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA, PLEASE VOTE AND THAT CARRIES BY A VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO.
LET THE RECORD SHOW WE ARE MISSING COMMISSIONER O AND COMMISSIONER CAREY.
AND WE HOPE TO HAVE OUR EIGHT, UH, PMZ MEMBER SEATED BY OUR NEXT MEETING.
ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS UNLESS INSTRUCTED OTHERWISE BY THE CHAIR, SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED UPON IN ORDER.
APPLICANTS ARE LIMITED TO 15 MINUTES OF PRESENTATION TIME WITH A FIVE MINUTE REBUTTAL IF NEEDED.
REMAINING SPEAKERS ARE LIMITED TO 30 TOTAL MINUTES OF TESTIMONY TIME WITH THREE MINUTES ASSIGNED PER SPEAKER.
PRESIDING OFFICER MAY MODIFY THESE TIMES AS DEEMED NECESSARY.
ADMINISTRATIVE CONSIDERATION ITEMS MUST BE APPROVED IF THEY MEET CITY DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
LEGISLATIVE CONSIDERATION ITEMS ARE MORE DISCRETIONARY EXCEPT AS CONSTRAINED BY LEGAL CONSIDERATIONS.
[1. (DS) Public Hearing - Replat & Revised Site Plan: R.V. Service Center, Block 1, Lot 1R - Recreational vehicle parking lot on one lot on 9.5 acres located at the southeast corner of Plano Parkway and Stewart Avenue. Zoned Light Industrial-1 and located within the 190 Tollway/Plano Parkway Overlay District. Projects #R2022-044 and #RSP2022-055. Applicant: TBS Property Co. 20, LLC (Administrative consideration)]
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE, PUBLIC HEARING REPLAT AND REVISE SITE PLAN.RV SERVICE CENTER BLOCK ONE LOT ONE R RECREATION VEHICLE PARKING LOT ON ONE LOT ON 9.5 ACRES LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF PLANO PARKWAY AND STEWART AVENUE ZONED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ONE AND LOCATED WITHIN THE ONE 90 TOLL WAY PLANO PARKWAY OVERLAY DISTRICT.
APPLICANT IS TBS PROPERTY COMPANY 20 L L C.
THIS IS FOR ADMINISTRATIVE CONSIDERATION.
I'M A SENIOR PLANNER WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND THESE ITEMS ARE RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ARE THERE ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
DOES DOES THE APPLICANT WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? HE IS HERE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION.
ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? NO, THERE ARE NOT.
I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC FIND DISCUSSION OF THE COMMISSION.
WE APPROVE THIS ITEM AS SUBMITTED.
THIS SIDE OF THE AYES GETTING FAST OVER HERE.
ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER BROSKY, UH, MADE THE MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER TONG.
PLEASE VOTE THAT ITEM CARRIES FIVE ZERO NON-PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL PERMIT LIMITED PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA NOT POSTED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL ESTABLISH TIME LIMITS BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKER LENGTH OF THE AGENDA AND TO ENSURE MEETING EFFICIENCY AND MAY INCLUDE A TOTAL TIME LIMIT AGENDA.
[2. (JA) Discussion and Direction: Thoroughfare Standards Rules and Regulations Update - Discussion and direction pertaining to Section 6: Special Streets as part of the update of the City’s Thoroughfare Standards Rules and Regulations. Applicant: City of Plano]
DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION THOROUGHFARE STANDARDS, RULES AND REGULATIONS.UPDATE DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION PERTAINING TO SECTION SIX SPECIAL STREETS AS PART OF THE UPDATE OF THE CITY'S THOROUGHFARE STANDARDS, RULES AND REGULATIONS.
BEFORE YOU GET STARTED, COUPLE OF THINGS.
UM, THERE'S A LOT TYING THESE THREE ITEMS TOGETHER.
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THREE AND FOUR.UH, IT WAS SUGGESTED MAYBE WE TRY TO PRESENT 'EM ALL AT ONCE.
THERE'S A VARIETY OF REASONS WHY THAT ISN'T GOING TO WORK, INCLUDING THE DIFFERENT SPEAKERS WE'RE GONNA HAVE, UH, UH, ADDRESSING EACH TOPIC.
FOR THOSE THAT ARE GOING TO SPEAK OR WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM, I'LL OBVIOUSLY ALLOW YOU SOME TIME TO SPEAK.
IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON ITEM TWO, FEEL FREE TO THE EXTENT THAT THAT KIND OF OVERLAPS A LITTLE BIT WITH MAYBE WHAT YOU WANT TO MAKE A POINT OF.
AND THE OTHER ITEM, FEEL FREE TO GO AHEAD AND BRING THAT UP SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK UP THREE TIMES CAUSE SEVERAL OF YOU ARE WANTING TO SPEAK ON EACH ITEM.
ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I'M THE SENIOR MOBILITY PLANNER WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
THE PLANNING AND ENGINEERING DEPARTMENTS ARE WORKING TO UPDATE THE CITY'S THOROUGH FAIR STANDARDS, RULES AND REGULATIONS KNOWN SIMPLY AS THE THOROUGH FAIR STANDARDS.
THIS DOCUMENT WAS UPDATE, UM, REGULATES THE MINIMUM STANDARDS FOR THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF STREETS, SIDEWALKS, AND OTHER ROADWAY DESIGN ELEMENTS WITHIN THE CITY.
THIS WAS LAST UPDATED IN 2009 AND THE CITY IS CONTRACTED WITH KIMLEY HORN AND ASSOCIATES TO ASSESS THE EXISTING THOROUGH FIRST STANDARDS AND DEVELOP NEW STANDARDS.
WE'RE AIMING TO FINALIZE THIS SPRING.
SINCE OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR, STAFF HAS BROUGHT MULTIPLE SECTIONS OF THE DRAFT THOROUGH FIRST STANDARDS BEFORE THE COMMISSION TO GATHER FEEDBACK.
TONIGHT IS THE LAST SCHEDULED PRESENTATION ON A SPECIFIC TOPIC.
SO YOU CAN SEE, UM, IN OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER WE BROUGHT, UH, THE STREET FRAMEWORK.
DECEMBER WE DID MULTIMODAL JANUARY, NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC MANAGER AND TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.
TONIGHT WE'RE ON SPECIAL STREETS AND UH, CALL FOR PUBLIC HEARING IS SCHEDULED IN MARCH.
OUR PLAN IS FOR THAT NEXT MEETING.
STAFF WILL ADD THE DRAFT TO THE CITY WEBSITE AND PROVIDE THE COMMISSION FULL COPIES OF THE THOROUGHFARE STANDARDS.
STAFF WILL ALSO PROVIDE COMPLETE DETAILS UNRELATED, UH, CHANGES INCLUDING IN THE ZONING AND THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE.
THAT WILL BE REQUIRED AS PART OF THE THOROUGH FIRST STANDARDS UPDATE.
STAFF WILL ALSO REQUEST THAT THE COMMISSION CALL A PUBLIC HEARING THAT WILL KICK OFF A MONTH AND A HALF OF PUBLIC OUTREACH, WHICH STAFF WILL DISCUSS LATER THIS EVENING.
IN ITEM FOUR, THE NEW SECTION PROVIDES REQUIREMENTS AND STANDARDS TO ADDRESS STREETS THAT ARE NOT PART OF THE STANDARD STREET FRAMEWORK OF TYPE A THROUGH G, SUCH AS ALLEYS, NEWS, PEOS AND SHARED STREETS, AS WELL AS ESTABLISHES A CONSISTENT APPROACH TO STREET DESIGN IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
THE SECTION IS GUIDED BY POLICIES AND ACTIONS WITHIN THE TRANSPORTATION COMPONENT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THESE ACTIONS AND UH, POLICIES FOCUS ON SUPPORTING WALKABLE AND ATTRACTIVE STREET SCAPES AS WELL AS THE DOWNTOWN CORRIDOR FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY THAT AIMS TO ENHANCE THE DOWNTOWN CORE.
SPECIAL STREETS ARE UNIQUE STREET TYPES THAT FALL OUTSIDE OF THE CITYWIDE FUNCTIONAL CLASSIFICATION SYSTEM OF TYPE A EXPRESSWAY DOWN TO TYPE G LOCAL STREETS.
THEY ALSO INCLUDE STREETS IN DOWNTOWN PLANO AND AS WE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED AT THE NOVEMBER 21ST MEETING, WERE LARGELY CONSTRUCTED BEFORE THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1959.
AND AS A RESULT, THEY HAVE INCONSISTENT STREET RIGHT OF WAYS AND ARE UNIQUE IN COMPARISON TO THE CITYWIDE FUNCTIONAL UH, CLASSIFICATION SYSTEM.
MOST OF THE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR SPECIAL STREETS ARE LOCATED IN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS OR ZONING DISTRICTS IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE, INCLUDING IN THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY DESIGN R C D NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS DESIGN, N B D, DOWNTOWN BUSINESS GOVERNMENT, BG, AND THE URBAN MIXED USE UMU ZONING DISTRICTS.
THE UPDATE TO THE THIRD FIRST STANDARDS WILL TRANSITION DESIGN RELATED STANDARDS FOR SPECIAL STREETS FROM THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND CONSOLIDATE THEM IN THE UPDATED THOROUGH FAIR STANDARDS.
IT WILL ALSO INTRODUCE CROSS SECTIONS FOR THESE STREETS, SIMILAR TO THE TYPE A THROUGH G CROSS SECTIONS THAT WE PRESENTED AT THE NOVEMBER 21ST MEETING.
THAT WAS FOR SECTION TWO, THE STREET FRAMEWORK.
NOW I'LL TRANSITION TO DISCUSS SPECIAL STREETS BY THEIR TYPE.
THESE ARE NARROW ACCESSWAYS OFTEN WITHOUT SIDEWALKS, TYPICALLY PROVIDED AT THE REAR OF RESIDENTIAL LOTS, PROVIDING NECESSARY ACCESS TO THE GARAGES OR OTHER PARKING AREAS.
THE EXISTING MINIMUM OF 10 FEET OF PAVEMENT WITHIN A MINIMUM 15 FOOT OF RIGHT OF WAY WILL REMAIN.
AND OTHER REQUIREMENTS IN SECTION 5.4 OF THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE WILL BE RE UH, CONSOLIDATED TO SECTION SIX.
THE NEXT STREET TYPE IS A MUSE.
A MUSE IS A NARROW STREET THAT SERVES SMALL LOT SUBDIVISIONS IN INFILL OR MIXED USE AREAS, UH, IN MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS OR FUNCTIONS SIMILAR TO ALLEYS
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FOR RESIDENTIAL LOTS THAT FRONT UNDER OPEN SPACE AREAS SUCH AS COURTYARDS AND PASEOS NEWS STREETS ARE BECOMING MORE COMMON, ESPECIALLY IN MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS IN SMALL LOT OR ATTACHED RESIDENTIAL TYPES THAT DO NOT HAVE DIRECT ACCESS FROM AN ADJACENT PUBLIC STREET.SOME RECENT EXAMPLES IN THE CITY OF PLANO INCLUDE RICE FIELD ICON AT LEGACY LEGACY WEST, EXCUSE ME, THE COMMODORE HERITAGE CREEKSIDE PLANO GATEWAY, AND THE COLLIN CREEK MALL REDEVELOPMENT.
THE APPLICATION OF MU STREETS HAVE PRIMARILY BEEN CONTROLLED TO THE ZONING PROCESS WITH STANDARDS IN CERTAIN ZONING DISTRICTS.
MAINLY THE, OR NOTABLY THE R C D RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY DESIGN AND THE UMU URBAN MIXED USE NEWS STREETS ARE DIFFERENT FROM LOCAL STREETS.
THEY DON'T OPERATE QUITE LIKE A LOCAL STREET.
THEY ARE A NARROWER, THEY HAVE SLOWER DESIGN SPEEDS AND THEY SUPPORT SIGNIFICANTLY LESS TRAFFIC THAN A TYPICAL STREET.
AS SUCH, MUSE DO HAVE UNIQUE APPLICATIONS.
STAFF HAS IDENTIFIED IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE APPLICATION OF NEWS STREETS AND THESE ARE INCLUDED IN SECTION SIX.
SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDE, UM, STAFF RECOMMENDS LIMITING MUSE TO SMALL SUBDIVISIONS WITH LOTS LESS THAN 25 OR IF MORE THAN 25 LOTS.
50% OF THE LOTS SHOULD FRONT A COMMON OPEN SPACE.
AND AS MUSE ARE NOT LOCAL STREETS.
STAFF ALSO RECOMMENDS A MAXIMUM BLOCK LENGTH OF 600 FEET.
SECTION SIX ALSO PROPOSES UPDATES TO THE RIGHT OF WAY AND PAVEMENT WIDTHS AND SETBACKS.
TO MITIGATE PARKING UNCERTAINTIES, A MUSE WILL HAVE A MINIMUM TOTAL RIGHT OF WAY WIDTH OF 28 FEET, A MINIMUM OF 22 FEET OF PAVEMENT, AND AT LEAST THREE FOOT BUFFER ON BOTH SIDES, MOSTLY FOR UTILITIES ALSO, AT LEAST A MINIMUM SETBACK OF SEVEN FEET WOULD BE NEEDED IF PARKING WAS REQUIRED.
AND THIS WOULD CREATE AT LEAST 10 FEET IN SPACE FOR ON STREET PARALLEL PARKING.
FINALLY, STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO SET STRIPING REQUIREMENTS ON USED STREETS, AND THIS IS STILL ONGOING AS OF TODAY.
THE NEXT SPECIAL STREET TYPE IS CALLED A POEO.
POEO IS A PEDESTRIAN ONLY RIGHT OF WAY WHERE VEHICLE TRAFFIC IS NOT PERMITTED.
THERE ARE VARIOUS CONFIGURATIONS OF A POEO DEPENDING ON THE SURROUNDING LAND USE CONTEXT.
SOMETIMES THEY CAN BE USED IN RESIDENTIAL CONTEXTS AND SOMETIMES THEY BEGIN USED IN, THEY CAN BE USED IN COMMERCIAL CONTACTS.
SECTION SIX SETS THE MINIMUM TOTAL RIGHT OF WAY FOR PASEOS AND PATHWAY WIDTHS DE DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF PATHWAYS WITHIN THAT RIGHT OF WAY, ALL DWELLING UNITS THAT ABUT THE PASEO MUST ALSO FACE THAT PASEO.
THIS IS IMPORTANT TO CREATE THE UNIQUE AESTHETICS THAT A PASEO, UM, REQUIRES, AND THE UPDATES WILL CONSOLIDATE PASEOS STANDARDS FROM RC D N B D AND THE UU ZONING DISTRICTS.
FOR THE NEXT FEW SLIDES, I WANTED TO GO THROUGH A FEW PASEO EXAMPLES.
UH, ON THIS FIRST ONE, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A PASEO IN A RESIDENTIAL SETTING.
NOTE THAT THE HOMES FRONT OF PASEO, SO, UM, THERE'S NO REAR ACCESS OF THOSE HOMES THAT OPEN DIRECTLY ONTO THAT PASEO.
ALSO NOTE THAT THERE ARE TWO SIDEWALKS.
SO SECTION SIX SETS AT THE MINIMUM RIGHT OF WAY WIDTH SHOULD BE 28 FEET, BUT IT DOES ALLOW THE FLEXIBILITY FOR SIDEWALK AND AMENITIES WITHIN IT.
THIS ALLOWS THE POEO TO BEST MEET THE LOCAL, UH, CONTEXT AND THE DEVELOPMENT GOALS FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.
THIS NEXT ILLUSTRATION, UM, IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF A POEO IN A RESIDENTIAL SETTING.
IN THIS EXAMPLE, THERE'S A WIDE SIDEWALK WITH VARIOUS PAVEMENT TEXTURE TO ADD CHARACTER ALONG THE POEO.
AND AGAIN, THE HOME'S FRONT THE POEO.
SO THIS LAST ONE, THIS AN EXAMPLE IN A COMMERCIAL SETTING, THE MINIMUM RIGHT OF WAY WOULD STILL BE 28 FEET.
AND THE POEO IS WHERE THE FOUNTAIN AND THAT CIRCULAR GRASS WITH THE BENCHES AND THEN UP IN THE STEPS.
SO THAT IS DEFINED AS THE PASEO IN THIS EXAMPLE.
NEXT IS CALLED A SHARED STREET, ALSO KNOWN AS A WOOF.
A SHARED STREET IS AN ALTERNATIVE TYPE OF LOCAL STREET THAT'S DESIGNED TO BE SHARED AMONG VARIOUS MODES OF TRAVEL TO MINIMIZE SEGREGATION BETWEEN ROAD USERS AND A COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL SETTING.
SHARED STREETS ARE CURBLESS AND ALLOW THE SURFACES TO BLEND.
SHARED STREETS ARE GROWING IN POPULARITY AROUND THE COUNTRY AND SHOULD BE CONSIDERED IN PLACES DESIGNED FOR HIGH PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY.
AND WHERE VEHICLE VEHICLE TRAFFIC IS EITHER LOW OR DISCOURAGED, THE TEXTURED COLORED PAVEMENT THAT IS FLUSHED WITH THE CURB REINFORCES THE PEDESTRIAN PRIORITY, WHILE ALSO MAINTAINING ACCESS FOR VEHICLES AND PERMITTING, LOADING AND UNLOADING STAFF HAS PROPOSED A MINIMUM RIGHT OF WAY OF 30 FEET PER SHARED STREETS.
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TWO FEET WIDER THAN THE MINIMUM RIGHT OF WAY FOR PASEOS AND MUSE.UM, AND THAT IS SLIGHTLY, UH, LESS THAN A LOCAL, WHICH RANGES FROM 50 TO 63.
SO I WANTED TO GIVE YOU SOME COMPARISON BETWEEN THE WIDTH FOR AMUSE POEO AND THEN WHAT A LOCAL STREET WOULD BE.
HERE'S ANOTHER, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE THAT I WANT TO INCLUDE.
THIS IS FROM A WEST, UM, CHICAGO SUBURB.
YOU CAN SEE IN THIS IMAGE THAT IT IS CURBLESS AND THE VEHICLES AND FOR THE PEDESTRIANS AND THE AMENITIES THAT SHARE THE RIGHT OF WAY.
SO WHERE THAT JEEP CHEROKEE IS THE WOMAN WALKING AND ALSO, UH, THE WOMAN ON THE BENCH.
THAT IS ALL WITHIN, UH, THE, UH, WOUND OF RIGHT OF WAY.
THIS NEXT EXAMPLE, THIS IS FROM MILWAUKEE.
YOU CAN SEE THAT IT IS ALSO CURBLESS.
UM, BUT THIS ONE IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT WHERE THERE ARE BALLARDS BETWEEN THE MORE AUTO ORIENTED PORTION AND THE PEDESTRIAN ZONE.
YOU CAN ALSO NOTE, UM, THE EFFECT OF THE BALLARDS AND THE PAVEMENT TEXTURE ACTS AS VISUAL CUES FOR THE VEHICLES TO SLOW.
SO THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS AREA IS MINGLING, UM, BETWEEN THE PEDESTRIANS AND THE VEHICLES AS WELL AS DISCUSSED AT THE OCTOBER 3RD COMMISSION MEETING.
A MAJOR EXCEPTION TO THE FUNCTIONAL CLASSIFICATION SYSTEM USED THROUGHOUT THE CITY IS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
THE DOWNTOWN STREET GRID WAS DEVELOPED IN THE LATE 19TH AND EARLY 20TH CENTURIES AND INCLUDES NARROWER STREETS AND SMALLER BLOCKS THAT ARE TYPICALLY FOUND IN NEWER PARTS OF THE CITY.
THIS CONFIGURATION HELPS PROMOTEE A MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY LAND USE PATTERN, BUT ALSO CREATES CHALLENGES FOR INFILL AND REDEVELOPMENT PROJECTS THAT ARE SUBJECT TO STREET DESIGN STANDARDS THAT ARE TYPICAL OF DEVELOPMENT ELSEWHERE.
THE RESULT OF TRYING TO IMPLEMENT THE CITYWIDE FUNCTIONAL CLASSIFICATION, EXCUSE ME, CLASSIFICATION SYSTEM IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA HAS BEEN A PA PATCHWORK OF INCONSISTENT STREET RIGHT OF WAY AND PAVING OVER THE DECADES.
AND AGAIN, I PRESENTED THIS AT THE OCTOBER 3RD COMMISSION MEETING.
THE HISTORIC GRID HAS CREATED CHALLENGES FOR IMPLEMENTING TRADITIONAL FRONT YARD SETBACKS BASED ON THE DISTANCE FROM THE PROPERTY LINES AND EDGE OF RIGHT OF WAY IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
AND THIS WAS, UH, DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY AS PART OF ZONING CASE 20 20 14.
STAFF RECOMMENDS REESTABLISHING A UNIQUE DOWNTOWN STREET CLASSIFICATION SYSTEM AS PART OF THE THOROUGHFARE STANDARDS UPDATE, WHICH WOULD CREATE A TAILORED APPROACH TO THE STREET DESIGN IN THIS AREA AND COULD POTENTIALLY OFFER A SOLUTION, UM, FOR PRACTICAL CONSISTENT SETBACKS IN THE BG DISTRICT.
THESE STANDARDS WERE ESTABLISHED A CONSISTENT APPROACH TO STREET DESIGN IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND ARE INTENDED TO APPLY TO NEW OR EXISTING STREET, UM, WITHIN THAT BOUNDARY.
WHEN DESIGNED FOR CONSTRUCTION OR RECONSTRUCTION.
AT THE NOVEMBER 21ST PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING STAFF INTRODUCED A PROPOSED MODIFICATION TO THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN MAP, WHICH IS UP ON THE POWERPOINT.
IN THIS PRESENTATION, WE, UM, THIS WAS IN THE STREET FRAMEWORK SECTION, SO SECTION TWO, INCLUDING THE LAND USE CONTEXT FOR OUR ROADWAYS.
SO NEIGHBORHOOD CORNER COMMERCIAL MIXED USE.
YOU CAN SEE THOSE, UM, LABELED ON ON THAT MAP.
UM, THIS WAS AN ADDITION IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE UNDERLYING CHARACTER DEFINING ELEMENTS.
IN ADDITION TO THESE CHANGES, STAFF IS PROPOSING ADDING A DOWNTOWN STREET INSET MAP TO THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN MAP TO INDICATE THAT THE DESIGN OF STREETS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA WOULD BE SEPARATE.
SO YOU CAN SEE ON THE MAP, UM, WE HAVE A GREEN BOX AND THEN INSIDE IS THE DOWNTOWN INSET.
THE DOWNTOWN STREET MAP CONSISTS OF A SET OF STREET TYPES THAT ESTABLISH A CONSISTENT RIGHT OF WAY FOR EACH STREET, AND IT CORRESPONDS TO VARY DESIGN PRIORITIES SUCH AS THE NUMBER OF LANES AND MULTIMODAL STREET FEATURES.
STREETS ARE SEPARATED INTO THE FOLLOWING FUNCTIONAL CLASSIFICATIONS AND ON THIS PRESENTATION THEY ARE IN THE CABLE AT THE BOTTOM, ALONG THE LEFT COLUMN.
DOWNTOWN COUPLET MAJOR GATEWAY MAJOR AND MINOR COLLECTORS MIXED USE, LOCAL RESIDENTIAL, LOCAL ALLEYS, AND THE MUSE AND SPECIAL STREETS.
THROUGH THIS PROCESS, STAFF EVALUATED THE RIGHT OF WAY WIDTHS FOR ALL THE STREETS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
ALL THE STREETS WITHIN THAT INSET WHEN IMPLEMENTING THE DOWNTOWN STREET TYPE STAFF WORK TO MAKE SURE THE PLAN RIGHT OF WAY WIDTHS WERE BASED ON THE MOST COMMONLY AVAILABLE, EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY TO MINIMIZE IMPACTS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CHARACTER DEFINING ELEMENTS OF THE DOWNTOWN CORRIDOR'S FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY.
THE DOWNTOWN STREETS WERE SUPPORT ACCESS FOR ALL MODES OF TRAVEL ENHANCED BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS, AND CREATE ATTRACTIVE
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GATEWAYS.YOU CAN SEE IN THIS FUTURE LAND USE, MULTIMODAL ACCESS IS A HIGH PRIORITY, UM, AND THE BLOCK OF STREET SCAPE, SHORT BLOCK GRID, IT'S VERY URBAN AREA.
TYPICAL STREET DESIGN FEATURES IN THIS AREA INCLUDE WIDER SIDEWALKS ON STREET PARKING, DESIGNATED SPACE FOR STREET TREES, HARDSCAPING AND STREET FURNISHING.
ADDITIONALLY, SOME CORRIDORS HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AS CANDIDATES FOR ENHANCED BICYCLE CONNECTIONS, EITHER WITH THE SHARED USE PATH OR ON STREET BICYCLE FACILITIES.
SO I WANNA WALK YOU THROUGH THE PROCESS OF HOW WE EVALUATED THE RIGHT OF WAY WIDTHS IN THE DOWNTOWN.
AND THEN WE ATTEMPTED TO INCORPORATE THE, UM, DOWNTOWN CORRIDOR, CORRIDOR FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORIES AND THOSE CHARACTER DEFINING ELEMENTS THAT I JUST PRESENTED.
SO IN THIS EXAMPLE, THIS IS 15TH STREET FACING WEST, SO WE'RE STANDING ON THE DARK RAIL LINE STAFF, ANALYZED THE RIGHT OF WAY AND EXISTING CONVI CONFIGURATION OF THE STREETS IN DOWNTOWN.
WE WORKED WITH THE GOALS OF INCREASED WALKABILITY, TRANSIT ACCESS, AND ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION TO IMPLEMENT THE CONCEPTS.
SO ON THE NEXT FEW SLIDES, I'M GONNA GO THROUGH HOW WE ARE TAKING THOSE CONCEPTS INTO THE DOWNTOWN.
BEFORE YOU MOVE ON, I JUST WANNA CLARIFY, YOU SAY YOU'RE STANDING ON THE DART RAIL TAKING THIS PICTURE, BUT OBVIOUSLY NOT CAUSE YOU'RE LOOKING AT GEORGE'S MARKET.
SO YOU'VE GOT A WHOLE 15TH PLACE RIGHT NEXT TO YOU THERE.
SO IT'S STANDING WEST, IT'S REALLY BETWEEN START AND THAT APARTMENT.
UM, CONCEPTUALLY THE BIG QUESTIONS, UM, FOR STAFF WAS WHETHER THE UNIQUE RIGHT OF WAY CONSTRAINTS IN THE DOWNTOWN WOULD ALLOW US TO CREATE STREETS THAT SUPPORTED THE DOWNTOWN CORRIDORS FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY.
AND THE ANSWER THAT WE FOUND THAT AS WE WENT THROUGH THIS EXERCISE EXERCISE WAS THAT YES, WE CAN, AND I CAN SHOW YOU A FEW EXAMPLES.
SO YOU CAN SEE IN THIS, UM, CROSS SECTION WE'RE ADDING IN, UM, A SIDE PATH.
THERE'S A, UM, ON STREETE PARKING AND IT REALLY KIND OF SHOWS YOU WHAT WITHIN THAT A HUNDRED FEET OF RIGHT OF WAY, HOW IT CAN KIND OF CHANGE.
IF YOU REMEMBER BEFORE FOUR LANES AND INCORPORATES A WIDER SIDEWALK, UM, IN THE TRAVEL LANES, THE DOWNTOWN COUPLET, KIND OF TAKING THOSE SAME ELEMENTS.
SO WE HAVE, UH, WIDER SIDEWALKS, UH, CURBSIDE FLEX ZONE WHERE POSSIBLE.
AND ON STREETE PARKING, WE'VE ADDED ON STREETE PARKING IN THIS EXAMPLE ON MUNICIPAL AVENUE.
SO THIS IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF CITY HALL, WHICH DOES NOT HAVE ON STREET PARKING RIGHT NOW.
MAJOR GATEWAY, THIS IS 15TH STREET US 75 TO G AVENUE.
SO THIS IS A VERY WIDE RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT OF WAY.
IT'S A HUNDRED FOOT, UM, FOUR-LANE AND DIVIDED WITH A BIKE ALSO HAS WIDE, UM, UH, SIDEWALKS.
AND IT'S A SHARED USE PATH ON THE SIDE SO THAT ON THE VERY FAR RIGHT EDGE OF THE IMAGE, BICYCLE INFRASTRUCTURE, MAJOR COLLECTORS, AGAIN, KIND OF THE SAME STORY OF WHEREVER POSSIBLE, BRINGING IN GREEN SPACE, WIDER SIDEWALKS ON STREET PARKING, MULTIMODAL FACILITIES, MINOR COLLECTORS, MIXED USE, LOCAL AND RESIDENTIAL LOCAL.
AND I'LL SAY, UM, AS WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE CROSS SECTIONS, IT WAS, UH, AN EXERCISE OF WHAT CAN THE RIGHT OF WAY CONCEPTUALLY HOLD AS IT WOULD GO IN DESIGN.
SOME OF THESE MIGHT MOVE FORWARD, SOME OF THEM MIGHT NOT, BUT IT KIND OF SHOWS IF YOU HAVE A PRIORITY IN THESE AREAS, WHAT YOU CAN DO WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
SO FOR NEXT STEPS, STAFF EXPECTS DOWNTOWN STREET CHANGES TO OCCUR OVER TIME AND WITH IN INCREMENTAL IMPROVEMENTS TO HAPPEN AS REDEVELOPMENT OCCURS.
AND FOR LARGER PROJECTS TO HAPPEN THROUGH THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT PROGRAM, CERTAIN ELEMENTS OF THE PLANNED STREET DESIGN MAY BE CREDITED TOWARD DEVELOPER REQUIREMENTS.
FOR EXAMPLE, PLANNED ON STREETE PARKING SPACES THAT WOULD BE CONSTRUCTED LATER COULD COUNT TOWARD, UM, A DEVELOPMENT'S TOTAL PARKING REQUIREMENT.
ADDITIONALLY, AS STAFF, UH, WILL DISCUSS IN MORE DETAIL LATER TONIGHT, STAFF WILL PRESENT THE UNIQUE DOWNTOWN STREET CLASSIFICATION SYSTEM TO THE PUBLIC TO GATHER FEEDBACK ON THE TAILORED APPROACH IN THE DOWNTOWN AND THE PLAN RIGHT OF WAY TO CREATE CONSISTENT SETBACKS IN THE BG DISTRICT AS WELL.
A LOT OF INFORMATION, UM, AND WE RECOMMEND THE COMMISSION PROVIDE DIRECTION PERTAINING TO SECTION SIX SPECIAL STREET DESIGN REQUIREMENTS.
YOU HAVE TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
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GOOD.EVERYBODY'S STILL VERY PENSIVE LOOKING.
LOTS OF READING HERE AND COVERED A LOT OF, A LOT OF GROUND.
FIRST OF ALL, JUST TO, UM, MENTION A COUPLE OF THINGS.
I REALLY LIKE THE, THE CLARIFICATION ON THE MUSE STREETS.
UM, IT'S KIND OF BEEN A ISSUE OF MINE FOR A WHILE, SO THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S CONCERNS AND GETTING SOME OF THOSE, UM, WRITTEN INTO THE PLAN.
UM, THE OTHER, THE OTHER THING I REALLY LIKE IS THE NEW 15TH STREET, UM, UH, WEST OF DART.
I THINK YOUR CONCEPTS THERE ARE RIGHT ON TARGET.
UM, IT'S A HEAVILY TRAVELED SECTION OF THE ROAD, BUT, UH, I THINK THAT ON STREET PARKING IS, IS SOMETHING THAT'S DESPERATELY NEEDED THROUGH THERE.
I'M, I'M DOWN THE STREET EVERY DAY, SO, UH, IT'S, IT'S ON ON RIGHT ON TARGET.
A COUPLE OF MY CONCERNS, UM, LOOKING AT THE DETAILS OF THE PLAN IS I SEE A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS TO 14TH AND 18TH, UM, WHICH WHEN I LOOK AT 'EM FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, I AGREE COMPLETELY.
MY CONCERN IS THAT IF WE, IF WE N IF WE NARROW UP THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC LANES AVAILABLE ON 14TH, 15TH IS ALREADY NARROW.
IF WE NARROW IT UP ON 18TH AS WELL, WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY EASTWEST CORRIDORS THERE THAT ARE GONNA HANDLE OUR SERVICE TRAFFIC.
UM, HAS THE TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT LOOKED AT THE IMPACTS OF REDUCING TRAVEL LANES ON ALL THREE OF THOSE? ULTIMATELY? THAT'S A REAL CONCERN OF MINE, YES, THEY, THEY WERE HELPING US THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS, BUT I WILL SAY THAT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THE TOTAL RIGHT OF WAY WIDTH LANE CONFIGURATION AS IT COMES TO DESIGN COULD FLUCTUATE, BUT IT'S TO SHOW IF YOU PUT CERTAIN PRIORITIES, WHAT CAN HAPPEN WITHIN THAT RIGHT OF WAY.
YEAH, AND I, AND LIKE I SAID, CONCEPTUALLY, I THINK IT'S A GREAT TARGET.
MY CONCERN IS ESPECIALLY 14TH CARRIES A LOT OF TRAFFIC, AND TO TAKE IT FROM FOUR LANES DOWN TO TWO THROUGH LANES, I THINK REALLY NEEDS TO BE COORDINATED VERY CLOSELY WITH THE TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT.
I'M CONCERNED ABOUT, UH, AGAIN, DELIVERY TRUCKS AND STUFF.
THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF TRUCK TRAFFIC ON THAT ROAD FOR MM-HMM.
I MEAN, IT, IT'S SERVING THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
SO I JUST THINK WE NEED TO REALLY, REALLY CONCENTRATE ON MAKING SURE TRAFFIC IS ON BOARD WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING THERE.
SO WE, WE DON'T ADVERSELY IMPACT THE BUSINESSES BY TRYING TO HELP THEM
SO, UM, UM, MY, MY OTHER CONCERN, UH, I SEE A KIND OF A, A ONE PIECE MISSING TO ME, WHICH IS 15TH STREET EAST OF MUNICIPAL OUT TO P I KNOW THAT I'VE SEEN SOME PLANS PRIMARILY RELATED TO THE REDEVELOPMENTS THAT THAT'S OCCURRING IN THAT SECTION OF TOWN, UM, WITH HOW THAT STREET SECTION IS GONNA LOOK, BUT THE QUESTION IS, IS THAT THE FULL LENGTH OF THAT PORTION OF THE STREET, Y'ALL DID A GREAT JOB IDENTIFYING 14TH AND 18TH AND THE LIMITS OF IT, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE 15TH, UM, EAST OF P WAS EAST OF MUNICIPAL, UM, WAS KIND OF LEFT OUT OF THE PLAN AS FAR AS WHAT YOUR VISION OF THAT WAS.
I JUST THINK WE NEED TO DOCUMENT IT.
SO, UM, I THINK THOSE ARE MY MAIN CONCERNS AND COMPLIMENTS.
I THINK YOU, UH, AS FROM A DOWNTOWN RESIDENT, I THINK YOU'RE VERY CLOSE TO THE TARGET WITH A LITTLE BIT OF LITTLE, LITTLE BIT OF, UH, REFINING.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR EFFORT.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, COMMISSIONER BRUNO.
AND I APPLAUD THE WORK THAT, THAT YOU'VE DONE ON THIS ISSUE.
UM, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE OTHER CATEGORIES OF SPECIAL STREETS WHO'VE IDENTIFIED MUSE, PASEOS, SHARED STREETS, UH, OR WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT THOSE ARE CITY OWNED PUBLIC RIGHTS OF WAY AS OPPOSED TO PRIVATE PROPERTY.
THE REGULATIONS WOULD APPLY TO EITHER OR.
OH, THEY WOULD APPLY BOTH STANDARDS, YES.
UH, A MUSE CAN BE ON A PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT, A POEO COULD BE AS WELL, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I WAS GETTING AT.
I CAN CONCEIVE OF A MUSE LIKE ROADWAY OR A POEO LIKE PASSAGE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT WOULD BE VERY CLOSELY ANALOGOUS TO THE PUBLIC EQUIVALENT.
AND I WAS WONDERING IF THESE, UM, PROPOSED STANDARDS WOULD, WOULD APPLY TO THOSE EQUALLY BECAUSE THERE, THERE ARE FACT, THERE ARE FACTORS I THINK THAT ARE, THAT ARE COMMON TO BOTH, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE, THE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S SUFFICIENT PASSAGE FOR, FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES, WHICH MEANS THERE HAS TO BE A CERTAIN WIDTH AND PARKING HAS TO BE IN SUCH A WAY AS TO NOT IMPEDE THE PASSAGE OF EMERGENCY VEHICLES AND SO FORTH.
SO THE DESIGN FOR EMERGENCY ACCESS WOULD BE PROVIDED, UM, FOR THE PASEO EXAMPLE YOU JUST GAVE MM-HMM.
SO EMERGENCY ACCESS MIGHT NOT BE DIRECTLY DOWN TO PASEO, BUT
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IT WOULD BE DESIGNED THAT DEVELOPMENT WHERE ACCESS COULD BE ON THE REAR FACING STREETS.ALSO, FROM THE STANDPOINT OF AESTHETICS THAT THESE, APPLYING THESE REGULATIONS TO THE PRIVATE EQUIVALENCE OF MU MUS IN PASEOS AND SHARED STREETS, UH, WOULD ALLOW THE CITY TO MAKE TO ENSURE THAT, UH, SOME SORT OF, UH, VISUALLY ATTRACTIVE PRODUCT IS THE RESULT.
AND THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE DOESN'T JUST THROW UP AN ALLEYWAY WILLY-NILLY, YOU KNOW MM-HMM.
SO I AGREE THAT ANY CHANGES WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE SLOWLY OVER TIME AND PROBABLY AS REDEVELOPMENT OCCURS.
UM, I, I WOULDN'T THINK THE CITY HAS PLANS TO, YOU KNOW, TO TEAR DOWN AND BUILDING IT IN, IN ORDER TO MAKE ROOM FOR A FEW PARK BENCHES, YOU KNOW? ANYWAY.
BUT ANYWAY, UM, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORT.
I, I, I, UM, I LIKE YOUR OVERALL CONCEPT.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER, TO, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.
UM, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
ONE IS IN GENERAL, MAYBE THIS IS JUST ME.
SO THIS DE STANDERS ARE UPDATING FROM 2009 VERSION OF THE THIRD FAIR UNTIL NOW.
UH, AFTER WE MAKE ALL THESE CHANGES, IF WE FOUND ANY CURRENT CONSTRUCTIONS OR ALREADY BUILD ROAD OR CONFLICT HAVE CONFLICTS WITH THE STANDARDS, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN? ARE WE GONNA REQUIRE THE DEVELOPERS TO REDO THEIR STREETS OR, UH, IS THERE ANY, UH, WHAT'S OUR PLAN FOR THAT? SO ARE YOU TALKING THE DOWNTOWN AREA, FOR INSTANCE, IF, FOR INSTANCE, IF THE REDEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL OCCURRED MM-HMM.
SO IT COULD BE CITY INITIATED OR SITE BY SITE THROUGH A DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL.
SO WE WOULD, WE WOULD REQUIRE THE, UM, THE CURRENT, EITHER THE STREETS OR THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO MAKE CHANGES TO ADHERE TO OUR NEW STANDARDS.
IF, IF THERE WAS A CHANGE ON THE STREET, THEY'D HAVE TO FOLLOW THE NEW STANDARDS.
WE WANT TO RETROACTIVELY, UM, MAKE THEM CHANGE.
THE SECOND QUESTION IS THAT I SEE THERE'S A MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR THE ALLEYS ALSO, UH, FOR TWO TRAVEL LANES.
IS THAT TRUE? BECAUSE I THOUGHT THERE, USUALLY THERE'S ONLY ONE TRAVEL LAYING DOWN AN ALLEY.
IT'S CURRENTLY THE MINIMUM IS 15 FEET IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA AND 20 FEET FOR A, UH, COMMERCIAL ALLEY.
AND IT'S KIND OF JUST SELF-MANAGED.
I JUST, SOMEHOW I READ IT IN A TABLE.
IT SAYS, UH, TWO TRAVEL LANES, BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S TWO TRAVEL LANE OR ONE TRAVEL, TWO TRAVEL LANES OR ONE TRAVEL LANE.
IT WON'T BE MARKED AS SEPARATE LANES.
I, I KNOW WE'RE UNDER ALI MUSE SPECIAL STREET NUMBER OF TRAVEL LANES TOO.
SO THAT'S BEFORE THE INTERPRETATION CAME FROM.
THAT IS ON YOUR BREAKOUT TABLE FROM DOWNTOWN.
WE'LL MAKE CLARIFICATION OF THAT TABLE.
UM, I THINK THE KEY FACTOR IS THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA TELL EVERYBODY THEY GOTTA GO OUT AND TEAR UP THE STREETS.
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO BUILD OURSELVES SOME STANDARDS SO THAT MOVING FORWARD AS REDEVELOPMENT OCCURS, WE HAVE SOMETHING TO ADHERE TOO.
UM, SOME OF THAT REDEVELOPMENT MAY TAKE PLACE FAR ENOUGH IN THE FUTURE THAT WE DON'T USE CARS ANYMORE.
UM,
NOW, THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT WE DO HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT HAVE, UH, INDICATED THEY'D LIKE TO SPEAK.
SO WHY DON'T YOU RUN THROUGH THE LIST AND, UM, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, JUST KIND OF GIVE US YOUR INPUT IN GENERAL.
I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF OVERLAP BETWEEN THE ITEMS THAT YOU'RE WANTING TO TALK ABOUT.
SO LET'S JUST GIVE US YOUR INPUT AND THEN WE'LL GO FROM THERE.
I'M PHYLLIS GERALD WITH CITY CENTRIC PLANNING, AND TONIGHT I'M HERE REPRESENTING TEXAS INTOWN HOMES IN GRACO PARTNERS WHO HAVE INFILL REDEVELOPMENT
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PROJECTS CURRENTLY UNDERWAY IN DOWNTOWN PLANO ON THE FORMER FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH CAMPUS, AS WELL AS AT 15TH STREET IN H AVENUE.UH, LIKE MOST INFILL PROJECTS, THESE PROPERTIES CAME WITH A LOT OF QUIRKS AND CHALLENGES THAT DO NOT FIT NEATLY INTO STANDARDIZED REGULATIONS.
AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY ORDINANCE CHANGES THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING RECOGNIZES AND ALLOWS SOME FLEXIBILITY FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT, ESPECIALLY IN THE USE OF MUSE STREETS.
CAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF EXAMPLES OF HOW MUSE STREETS HAVE BEEN USED TO DATE THAT DON'T MATCH WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED WITH THE, UH, THOROUGHFARE STANDARDS.
AND ALSO WANT TO LIMIT IMPACTS ON EXISTING PROJECTS THAT MIGHT RESULT IN NON-CONFORMING BUILDINGS.
AND I THINK A LOT OF THIS DISCUSSION STARTED INITIALLY ABOUT DOWNTOWN SETBACKS AND HOW THEY WERE MEASURED, AND THAT'S KIND OF EVOLVED INTO THIS LARGER PROJECT OF THE THOROUGH FAIREST STANDARDS AND DESIGN ISSUES.
AND WE'RE ASKING THAT PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE AS DISCUSSIONS CONTINUE ON THE THOROUGH FIRSTEST STANDARDS, STATIONARY PLANS AND DESIGN PROGRAMS THAT ARE PART OF YOUR NEXT, UH, AGENDA ITEMS. I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF, THOUGH ON THIS WOULD BE A SIMILAR TO OTHER PROJECTS.
WE HAVE A DESIGN STANDARD FOR A STREET, A PARTICULAR UNIQUE DEVELOPMENT SITUATION ARISES THAT SAYS WE NEED A VARIANCE FROM THAT.
WOULD THAT BE AVAILABLE TO A DEVELOPER UNDER THESE, UNDER THE THOROUGHFARE STANDARDS? YES.
SO WE ARE BUILDING IN SOME FLEXIBILITY, ESPECIALLY FOR DOWNTOWN BECAUSE THERE'S JUST SO MANY CONFLICTS WITH UTILITIES AND WHATNOT.
THERE'S A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY THERE FOR THINGS LIKE NEWS AND ALLEYS.
UM, YES, IT IS SUBJECT TO SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE IN THOSE VARIANCE PROCESSES.
I LIVE AT 1611 AVENUE H I HAVE A QUESTION.
WILL OUR TIME BE MULTIPLES OF THREE OR
ARE YOU SAYING YOU HAVE A LOT TO SAY? NO, NO.
I JUST HAD SOMETHING TO SAY ON EACH ONE, SO JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I COVER IT.
UM, I WILL BE SPEAKING ON THESE THREE ITEMS, AND I'M SPEAKING AS ONE OF THREE VOICES.
IF YOU WANT TO THINK OF IT LIKE A THREE LEGGED STOOL THAT'S NECESSARY TO MAKE THESE KINDS OF DECISIONS THE BEST THEY CAN BE FOR DOWNTOWN.
WE HAVE STAFF WELL INFORM, THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
WE HAVE BUSINESS OWNERS THAT, YOU KNOW, BRING, YOU KNOW, KEEP OUR ECONOMY GOING, BUT WE ALSO HAVE PEOPLE LIKE ME IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT I REPRESENT, THAT LIVE HERE WITH, UM, A VIEW GREATER THAN JUST, WHAT IS MY BOTTOM LINE? IT'S WILL IT DRIVE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND WILL IT ENRICH THE LIVES OF PEOPLE THAT MOVE HERE AND PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, GOING FORWARD? THE ON THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN? YES, EACH BLOCK IS VERY, UH, UNIQUE IN DOWNTOWN, ESPECIALLY IN THE ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS.
UH, I GOTTA SAY THOUGH, I AM SO EXCITED TO SEE THE BOAR CONCEPT COMING TO DOWNTOWN.
UH, I THINK THERE'S SOME GREAT PLACES FOR THAT.
UM, THE SHARED STREETS, UH, MUSE STREETS, WE DO HAVE SOME MUSE STREETS AND I'LL HAVE HAVE TO SAY IS I'VE WALKED THESE MOOSE STREETS OR TAKEN PEOPLE ON TOURS OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE THE MOVE STREETS.
UH, OR YOU'VE GONE DOWN TO DALLAS, UH, INFIELD DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE THESE, THIS IS THE KIND OF STUFF THAT I HEAR BACK.
THEY SAY, ARE YOU SURE IT'S OKAY TO WALK HERE? I FEEL LIKE I'M UP IN THEIR BUSINESS, LIKE I'M UP IN THEIR YARD.
SO I THINK COMMISSIONER BRUNO'S POINT IS VERY WELL TAKEN THAT TO CALL THEM OUT WITH SOME ATTRACTIVE PAVING THAT LETS PEOPLE KNOW THIS IS, THIS IS A PLACE FOR EVERYONE, UH, IS VERY IMPORTANT.
I KNOW IT COSTS MORE, BUT IT DOES SEND A MESSAGE ON THE MUSE THAT ESPECIALLY, UH, DIP IN THE CENTER AND THEY'RE JUST MADE OF CONCRETE.
THEY LOOK JUST LIKE AN ALLEY, NOT ATTRACTIVE, JUST MY OPINION.
UH, THANK YOU STAFF FOR CONSIDERING THE CALMING MEASURES ALONG WHAT I CALL THE MUNICIPAL AVENUE SPEEDWAY AND ALONG 18TH.
UH, I WOULD ALSO SUGGEST, UH, ADDING MORE OF THIS OVER AT 14TH, ALONG THE DANGEROUS CURVE WHERE PEOPLE CROSS OVER TO URBAN RIO.
I HOPE THAT SOMEDAY MANY MORE BUSINESSES WILL BE ALONG JAY AND PEOPLE WILL BE REGULARLY CROSSING BACK AND FORTH.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WE REALLY NEED FOUR LANES AT THAT POINT.
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LANES WITH A MEDIAN OR SOME OTHER MEASURE WOULD KEEP THAT FROM BEING SUCH A SCARY CROSSING.SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT I WANNA SAY.
I DIDN'T WANNA GET DOWN INTO THE WEEDS OF SPECIFIC THINGS.
JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW I'M IN SUPPORT OF THESE MEASURES AND REALLY EXCITED TO SEE THESE THINGS HAPPENING.
JUST TO BE CLEAR TOO, I MEAN, ITEM FOUR IS ALL ABOUT A PROJECT THAT IS ALL ABOUT COMMUNITY OUTREACH THAT INVOLVES RESIDENTS, BUSINESS OWNERS, DEVELOPERS, STAFF, COMMISSION MEMBERS.
UH, WE HAVE A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS STILL TO TAKE PLACE ON ALL OF THESE ITEMS. SO, HI, MY NAME IS PIERCE CRAVINS.
I LIVE AT 1200 EAST 15TH, AND THIS IS MY FATHER WILLIAM CRAVINS.
UM, WE'RE INVOLVED IN VARIOUS DEVELOPMENTS IN THE CITY OF PLANO, IN ADDITION TO HAVE OWNED, UH, PROPERTY HERE FOR QUITE A LONG TIME.
AND, UH, AS PHYLLIS, UM, EMPHASIZED WE'RE, WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR A SEAT AT THE TABLE AND, UH, WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UH, UH, THAT STAKEHOLDERS AND BUSINESS OWNERS AND AND PROPERTY OWNERS, UH, DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE HEARD.
UM, AS IT'S BEEN MENTIONED, THERE'S DIFFICULT TO TAKE A HOLISTIC VIEW, UM, AND A MONOLITHIC APPROACH TO DOWNTOWN.
SO WE APPRECIATE THE, UH, UH, THE TAILORING OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WITH RESPECT TO THOROUGH FAIR STANDARDS.
UM, UH, AN ANOTHER CONCERN THAT WE HAVE IS WHO BEARS THE COST FOR SOME OF THIS ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY? UM, AND ALSO THE TIMING CONCERNED WITH IT AS WELL WITH THIS PLAN AND WITH THIS REVIEW, WHAT DOES HAPPEN TO PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY OR PENDING ZONING CASES? UH, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE A PROJECT THAT, UH, WE ANTICIPATE STARTING TO, UH, APPLY FOR BUILDING PERMITS IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
SO JUST KIND OF HOW IT'S, UH, APPROACHED THAT WAY.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? I THINK OTHER THAN, UM, AS PIERCE SAID, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT BEFORE ALL THE DECISIONS ARE MADE, THAT PERHAPS BOTH THE DEVELOPERS AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT HAVE PROPERTY INVOLVED, UH, AND MIGHT BE INFLUENCED IN SOME WAY BY THE, UH, STREET IMPROVEMENTS THAT, UH, THEY GET THE, SOME SORT OF INPUT IN THE PROCESS.
THAT'S REALLY THE MAIN THING THEY WANT TO SEE.
I AM THE OWNER OF 10 13 A BUILDING ON 15TH STREET IN THE HEART OF HISTORIC DOWNTOWN PLANO.
I ALSO AM THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE PLANO PI AND I'M THE PRESIDENT OF H D P A AND I'M HERE KIND OF REPRESENTING BOTH THOSE GROUPS TONIGHT.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA THANK YOU FOR YOUR ONGOING INVESTMENT IN THE DOWNTOWN PLAYDOH AREA AND THE IMPROVEMENTS YOU'VE BEEN MAKING.
UH, I'M SURE YOU ALL AGREE IT'S A VERY SPECIAL PLACE AND NEAR AND DEAR TO MANY OF OUR HEARTS AND BUSINESSES.
UM, SO WE'RE ALSO VERY EXCITED BY THE FACT THAT THERE'S SOME NEW PROPOSALS IN THE WORKS THAT ARE GOING TO CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD IN MANY AREAS.
BUT I DO HAVE ONE REQUEST THAT AS YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE PROPOSALS, THAT YOU GIVE SOME OPPORTUNITY FOR THESE TWO ORGANIZATIONS, THE PEOPLE IN THE PIT AND THE MEMBERS OF H D P A TO EITHER BE CONSULTED WITH OR HAVE, PROVIDE SOME INPUT ON WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
UH, SO WE ARE PART OF THE PROCESS AND THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WILL INCORPORATE THE MANY PEOPLE THAT HAVE INVESTED IN BUSINESS AND REAL ESTATE DOWN DOWNTOWN.
UH, ALSO ALL THE BUSINESS MERCHANTS DOWN THERE, THAT THEY HAVE THEIR SAY AND THAT THEIR INPUT IS VALUED.
UH, AND YOU GIVE US SOME GOOD COMMUNICATION DURING THE PROCESS, UH, A LOT OF TRANSPARENCY AND GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK TO YOU WITH ANY THOUGHTS OR SUGGESTIONS.
AND THE GOAL IS NOT TO HOLD YOU UP, NOT TO SLOW YOU DOWN, BUT WE DO WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE SOME SAY IN PROTECTING THIS PRECIOUS LITTLE SPACE WE HAVE IN DOWNTOWN PLANO.
FINALLY, WE HAVE MR. FRANK TURNER.
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GOOD EVENING CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS.URBAN OPPORTUNITY, UH, IS MY CONSULTING FIRM, AND, UH, I DO ASSIST SOME OF THE DOWNTOWN PROPERTY OWNERS WITH PROJECTS, UH, CURRENTLY IN SERVICE TO THE CRAVENS ON SEVERAL, UH, PROPERTIES IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
MY COMMENTS WILL BE GENERAL, UH, AS TO DOWNTOWN AND NOT SPECIFIC TO THEIR PROJECTS.
UM, I PROVIDED YOU EARLIER, I BELIEVE THEY'VE BEEN DISTRIBUTED TO YOU, WRITTEN COMMENTS, AND I'LL TRY NOT TO REPEAT THOSE FOR THE SAKE OF TIME.
UM, I CAME HERE, UH, ALMOST 39 YEARS AGO.
UH, IT WAS 1984 AND, UH, TIMES HAVE, UH, CHANGED AND DOWNTOWN HAS CHANGED REMARKABLY DURING THAT PERIOD.
UM, AT THAT TIME, 15TH STREET WAS TWO LANES COMING IN FROM US, 75, WHICH WAS TWO LANES IN EACH DIRECTION AT THAT TIME FOR US, 75.
UM, VIRTUALLY EVERY STREET IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA HAS BEEN RECONSTRUCTED SINCE THEN.
SO WHILE WE HAVE HISTORIC DOWNTOWN STREET PATTERNS, I CAN TELL YOU AGAIN THAT VIRTUALLY EVERY STREET IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA AVENUE K, THE COUPLET, 15TH STREET, 14TH STREET, THE COUPLET, UH, THE UH, 13TH, 14TH CONNECTOR, ALL OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS HAVE BEEN RECONSTRUCTED DURING THAT PERIOD.
FOR THE MOST PART, THE CITY TRIED TO RESPECT EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY AND STREET PROFILES IN REDEVELOPING THOSE STREETS.
THE COUPLET, THE, UH, 13TH, 14TH CONNECTOR, 15TH STREET, ARE ALL GOOD EXAMPLES OF WHERE STREETS WERE MODIFIED TO MEET THE CHANGE IN CONDITIONS OF DOWNTOWN.
EVERY TIME YOU MAKE A CHANGE, UH, NOT ONLY DO YOU CHANGE THE CIRCULATION PATTERNS AND HAVE TREMENDOUS EFFECT ON THE OVERALL FABRIC OF DOWNTOWN, YOU AFFECT INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES SIGNIFICANTLY BY INCREASING RIGHT OF WAY OR AFFECTING ACCESS STANDARDS, CURB, RADIUS, ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
AGAIN, ADD OR DETRACT ACCESS AND THE USE OF PROPERTY, NOT TO MENTION REQUIREMENTS FOR THEIR PARTICIPATION IN THE CONSTRUCTION OF IMPROVEMENTS.
I THINK IT'S GOOD TO TAKE AN OVERALL VIEW AND GLOBAL VIEW OF LOOKING AT REWORKING THE STREET DESIGNATION AND CLASSIFICATION SYSTEM.
BUT I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO TAKE TIME IN REFINING THIS AND ADOPTING THIS TO APPLY TO SPECIFIC PROPERTIES AS WELL, AND TO TAKE AND SOLICIT THE INPUT OF INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS WHO WILL BE AFFECTED BY THESE DECISIONS, UH, WHILE A COMMITTEE IS TO BE SUPPORTED AND ENDORSED.
IN DOING THIS, AGAIN, INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS WILL HAVE A DIRECT, WILL BE DIRECTLY IMPACTED AND NEED TO BE A PARTICIPANT IN THIS PROCESS.
UH, THAT BRINGS UP A POINT ON, UH, MAJOR PROJECTS VERSUS, UH, THOSE THAT ARE INCREMENTAL AND, UH, CAN BE ACHIEVED BY INDIVIDUAL ACTIONS OVER TIME.
UH, AN EXAMPLE OF THIS WOULD BE, UH, THE TWO STREETS THAT ARE SHOWN ON THE PLAN, CONNECTING FROM JAY TO K.
UH, THESE ARE TWO NEW STREETS THEY PARTIALLY EXHIBITED EXISTED IN PRIOR TIMES.
AND THERE ARE REMNANTS OF RIGHT OF WAY THAT WOULD ALLOW OR SUGGEST THAT RECONNECTING THOSE TWO STREETS IN THAT AREA, UH, WOULD BE GOOD BENEFICIAL CREDENT AGING, UH, SMALLER BLOCKS, MAKING IT MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY.
HOWEVER, THEY'RE BUILDINGS THAT EXIST IN THE ALIGNMENTS THAT ARE SHOWN ON THE PLAN AND IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO CREATE THEM INCREMENTALLY.
THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE CITY INITIATED PROJECTS AND QUITE LIKELY WE'LL USE IMMINENT DOMAIN IN ORDER TO ACQUIRE THE RIGHT OF WAY.
I BRING THAT UP IN THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO BE TOTALLY CONSCIOUS OF WHAT IT IS TAKING ON WHEN IT PLACES THOSE BACK ON THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN AS DESIRED STREETS, BECAUSE YOU WILL HAVE CREATED A CLOUD, SO TO SPEAK, ON THOSE PROPERTIES.
NOT ONLY AFFECTING THEIR USE, THEIR REDEVELOPMENT, POSSIBLY SELL OR ABILITY TO GET A LOAN TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS JUST BY THE FEAR, SHEER FACT THAT THEY'VE NOW BEEN PLACED ON A MAP DESIGNATING THEM AS FUTURE STREETS.
SIR, PLEASE TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
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MINUTES, SIR.CAUSE YOU HAVE MY COMMENTS IN WRITING.
AS I SAID, UH, WE WELCOME THIS PROCESS.
WE THINK IT'S VERY GOOD AND BENEFICIAL, UH, FOR DOWNTOWN, FOR THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE, BUT THIS WILL TAKE EXTENSIVE PARTICIPATION BY PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE AREA TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO ITEM
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THREE.AND I KNOW WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT WANTED TO SPEAK ON THREE, BUT I THINK AT THIS POINT, LET'S HEAR THREE AND THEN FOUR, CUZ FOUR IS GONNA TALK ABOUT THE PROJECTS, THE INVOLVEMENT OF BUSINESS OWNERS, PROPERTY OWNERS, STAFF, COMMUNITY MEMBERS, EVERYBODY ELSE, AND THAT MAY ANSWER A LOT OF YOUR QUESTIONS AROUND HOW WE'RE GONNA APPROACH ALL OF THIS.
OKAY, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE, DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION.
IN INTRODUCTION TO THE COMMUNITY DESIGN PLAN, APPLICANT IS CITY OF PLANO.
MY NAME IS MOLLY CORELLE, SENIOR PLANNER WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS AGENDA ITEM IS TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE COMMUNITY DESIGN PLAN AND ITS RELATIONSHIP WITH OTHER ONGOING PLANNING DEPARTMENT EFFORTS RELATED TO STREET DESIGN AND DOWNTOWN PLANO.
AND THE DART SILVER LINE STATION AREA PLANS, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS.
COMMUNITY DESIGN POLICY RECOMMENDS THE CITY WORK WITH THE PUBLIC IN DEVELOPING A COMMUNITY DESIGN PLAN FOR KEY CORRIDORS AND LAND USE CONTEXTS THAT WOULD BENEFIT FROM UNIFIED DESIGN THEMES AND STANDARDS.
THE CRITERIA FOR DESIGN THEMES AND STANDARDS WILL BE DEVELOPED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE DESIRABLE CHARACTER DEFINING ELEMENTS AND INCORPORATE EXISTING DESIGN STANDARDS AS WELL AS PROMOTE CRIME PREVENTION THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN AS WELL AS UNIVERSAL DESIGN.
THIS BEING A HIGH PRIORITY ITEM ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION'S WORK PROGRAM STAFF HAS INITIATED A MULTI-PHASE, MULTI-YEAR APPROACH TO DEVELOPING A COMMUNITY DESIGN PLAN IN A WAY THAT BUILDS UPON THE HIGH LEVEL GUIDANCE ALREADY PROVIDED IN THE FUTURE LAND USE DASHBOARDS AND OTHER EXISTING DESIGN GUIDELINES.
NOW, FOR THE PURPOSE OF TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION, I WANNA CLARIFY THAT SITE DESIGN REFERS TO THE FUNCTIONAL AND AESTHETIC ATTRIBUTES OF A DEVELOPMENT.
AND IN THIS CASE, NOT TRADITIONAL ZONING STANDARDS SUCH AS LAND USE, HEIGHT, SETBACKS, BULK AND LOCK COVERAGE.
USING THE EXAMPLE OF COMMUNITY CORNERS FROM THE CON COMPREHENSIVE PLANS FUTURE LAND USE DASHBOARDS, THE COMMUNITY DESIGN PLAN WILL CREATE A COMPREHENSIVE SET OF SITE DESIGN STANDARDS THAT BUILD UPON THE DIRECTION PROVIDED IN THE DESIRABLE CHARACTER DEFINING ELEMENTS.
CURRENTLY, THE DESIRABLE CHARACTER DEFINING ELEMENTS ARE BROAD GOALS OF THE LAND USE CONTEXT, AND ARE NOT INCORPORATED INTO EXISTING DESIGN STANDARD DOCUMENTS.
THE COMMUNITY DESIGN PLAN AIMS TO DEVELOP SPECIFIC STANDARDS GUIDELINES AND PROVIDE POLICY DIRECTION TO ENHANCE THE PLANNING AND REVIEW OF DEVELOPMENT CHARACTERISTICS, WHICH INCLUDE BUT AREN'T LIMITED TO ASPECTS SUCH AS STREET SCAPE DESIGN AS DISCUSSED EARLIER THIS EVENING, SITE LAYOUT, LIGHTING, BUILDING AND PARKING ORIENTATION, RESIDENTIAL ADJA, ADJACENCY, SIGNAGE, ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN, AND OPEN SPACE.
GOING OVER A FEW ISSUES WITH, UM, SITE DESIGN TODAY.
UH, SITE DESIGN IN PLANO TODAY IS LARGELY GOVERNED BY THE STANDARDS, UH, OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND STANDALONE DESIGN GUIDELINE DOCUMENTS.
NOW, MANY OF THE CITY'S SITE DESIGN STANDARDS AND GUIDELINES HAVE BEEN IN PLACE FOR SOME TIME AND NO LONGER REFLECT THE CHANGES IN MARKET TRENDS AND THE COMMUNITY'S CURRENT DESIGN PREFERENCES OR THEIR LIMITED ZONING DISTRICTS WHERE MORE BROAD APPLICABILITY TO THE, UM, OF THESE STANDARDS MAY BE APPROPRIATE.
THE CITY LACKS A SET OF DESIGN STANDARDS THAT CAN BE UNIVERSALLY APPLIED TO THE EMERGENCY EMERGING DEVELOPMENT STYLES, REGARDLESS OF THE DEVELOPMENT DENSITY, HEIGHT, OR SETBACK REQUIREMENTS, UH, OUTLINED IN THE ZONING DISTRICT.
AND THIS CONTRIBUTES TO THE PROLIFERATION OF PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS OR PDS IN ORDER TO CUSTOMIZE SITE DESIGN REQUIREMENTS FOR INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS AND CAUSE ADMINISTRATIVE BURDEN TO MANAGE, UM, DUE TO ENFORCING THESE VARYING STANDARDS.
NOW, A MORE ILLUSTRATIVE EXAMPLE OF OUTDATED STANDARDS WOULD BE THE RETAIL CORNER DESIGN GUIDELINES, WHICH WERE ORIGINALLY CREATED IN 1987.
THIS DOCUMENT DOES NOT REFLECT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS GUIDANCE FOR RETAIL CORNERS SUCH AS THE RENOVATION, REVITALIZATION, AND REDEVELOPMENT EXHIBIT SHOWN HERE, WHICH IS FROM THE COMMUNITY CORNERS DASHBOARD IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE
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GOALS OF THE COMMUNITY DESIGN PLAN DOCUMENT INCLUDE PROVIDING OBJECTIVE MEASURABLE DESIGN STANDARDS THAT ARE BOTH ENFORCEABLE AND FUNCTIONAL WITHIN A SINGLE UNIFIED DOCUMENT.STAFF WILL ALSO REVIEW EXISTING DESIGN STANDARD DOCUMENTS TO INCORPORATE THEM APPROPRIATELY, APPROPRIATELY AS REFLECTED IN THE COMMISSION'S REVIEW OF EXISTING DESIGN STANDARD DOCUMENTS IN 2022.
ADDITIONALLY, THE PLAN WILL BE HIGHLY VISUAL AND INCLUDE GRAPHICS THAT ILLUSTRATE SPECIFIC STANDARDS AND GUIDELINES.
STAFF ANTICIPATES THAT THE PLAN, UM, STAFF ANTICIPATES TO DEVELOP THE PLAN IN PHASES ACROSS SEVERAL YEARS, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS CHART.
AND INCORPORATING EACH OF THE FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORIES AND OTHER SPECIALIZED TOPICS INTO EACH PHASE.
GENERAL DESIGN GUIDELINES THAT MAY AFFECT SEVERAL DESIGN LAND USE CONTEXTS WILL ALSO ADDRESS THINGS SUCH AS RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY, OPEN SPACE, ADAPTIVE REUSE, AND SUBURBAN CHARACTER.
ZOOMING IN ONTO PHASE ONE A AS I, AS WE'VE BEEN CALLING IT LATELY, UM, WE ARE FOCUSING, UM, WITH A FO UM, SORRY, WE ARE, WE ARE STARTING OFF WITH A FOCUS ON DOWNTOWN AND T O D SO THAT STAFF CAN SIMULTANEOUSLY PERFORM OUTREACH FOR THE DOWNTOWN STREETS AND BG SETBACKS AS MENTIONED IN THE PREVIOUS ITEMS DISCUSSION.
AND WE'LL BE ELABORATING FURTHER ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR AS WELL.
NEXT STEPS INCLUDE PUBLIC OUTREACH, WHICH AGAIN, MORE DETAILS WILL BE PROVIDED IN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WE ARE ANTICIPATING PHASE ONES FINAL ADOPTION TO BE IN FALL 2023.
AND THEN WE'LL BE MOVING ON TO PHASE TWO, WHICH INCLUDES EXPRESSWAY, CORRIDORS, EMPLOYMENT CENTERS, AND MAJOR TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS SUCH AS PRESTON ROAD, PLANO PARKWAY, THE D N T AND HIGHWAY 75.
THANK YOU COMMISSION FOR YOUR TIME AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? YOU GUYS ARE GONNA BE HERE A LONG TIME, MULTI-YEAR.
YOU SAW THAT THERE'S COPS IN THE BACK.
COMMISSIONER BRUNO, DO YOU HAVE A, UH, THANK YOU MICROPHONE PLEASE? YES, MICROPHONE.
UM, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS ITEM.
UM, IT OCCURS TO ME THAT THIS COMMUNITY DESIGN PLAN WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS SOMETHING THAT CAME BEFORE THE COMMISSION.
A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO WE HAD AN APPLICANT WHO WAS LOOKING FOR A VARIANCE IN THE USE OF CERTAIN BUILDING MATERIALS ON THE OUTSIDE THE EXTERIOR STREET FACE OF A BUILDING.
IN OUR DISCUSSION AT THAT TIME, IT WAS POINTED OUT THAT THE EXISTING ORDINANCE, WHICH SPECIFIED ACCEPTABLE MATERIALS WAS 30 YEARS OLD AND PROBABLY COULD STAND REEVALUATION.
I THINK THIS WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT AND IT WOULD GIVE US SOME CONSISTENT STANDARDS THAT WE COULD APPLY CONSISTENTLY RATHER THAN CARVE OUT AN ENDLESS SERIES OF EXCEPTIONS FOR EVERY APPLICANT WHO WANTED TO COME IN AND DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND GRADUALLY THEREBY ERODE, UH, THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE ORDINANCE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
UH, I ALSO THINK IT'S AN, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY THROUGH THE RECOGNITION OF DISTRICTS WHERE APPROPRIATE TO PERHAPS, UH, ESTABLISH THE FLEXIBILITY TO HAVE DIFFERENT, UH, DESIGN STANDARDS IN EFFECT FOR PARTICULAR DISTRICTS.
IN OTHER WORDS, THE WHOLE CITY DOESN'T NEED TO BE RED BRICK, SHALL WE SAY.
UH, AND DIFFERENT TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS MIGHT HAVE A DIFFERENT APPROPRIATE DESIGN FEATURES, BUT THIS WOULD GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO CREATE THAT FLEXIBILITY.
BUT GENERALLY, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO DESIGN STANDARDS, I'D LIKE TO, I'D LIKE TO SEE US HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ENFORCE CONSISTENTLY.
UM, COMMISSIONER RATLIFF COMMISSIONERS, UM, YOU, YOUR SPEAKER.
CAN YOU PUT BACK UP THE SLIDE WITH THE THREE YEAR PLAN ON IT? THAT ONE.
UM, I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO STUDY THIS LONG ENOUGH AND I DIDN'T SEE IT IN THE STAFF REPORT, SO WOULD YOU HUMOR ME AND GO THROUGH KIND OF HOW Y'ALL DETERMINED THE THREE YEAR PLAN AND THE PRIORITIES IN EACH, CUZ I'M FEEL CERTAIN THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT WENT IN WHICH YEAR.
SO CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE PLAN FOR 2023 AND THEN, AND HOW YOU DEVELOP THOSE PRIORITIES FOR US? YES, THANK YOU FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY.
SO PHASE ONE IS 2023 AND STARTING OFF WITH PHASE ONE A, THAT WOULD BE OUR DOWNTOWN CORRIDORS AND OUR T O D OR TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT.
WE'LL ALSO BE LOOKING AT, UM, UU URBAN ACTIVITIES, ACTIVITY
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CENTERS AND SUBURBAN ACTIVITY CENTERS, WHICH ARE TWO OF OUR LAND USE CONTEXTS IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.NEIGHBORHOOD CORNERS AND COMMUNITY CORNERS, WHICH ARE SIMILAR TO RETAIL CORNERS AND, UH, TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGN.
AND THEN WE'LL BE ADDRESSING THINGS SUCH AS EXPRESSWAY CORRIDORS AND EMPLOYMENT CENTERS AND MAJOR TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS SUCH AS PRESTON ROAD, PLANO PARKWAY, THE TOLLWAY, AND US HIGHWAY 75 LAND USE CONTEXTS THAT ARE GENERALLY IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO OUR MAJOR TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS, WHICH IS WHY THEY'RE GROUPED TOGETHER.
AND THEN PHASE THREE, WHICH WILL TAKE PLACE IN 2025, THAT INCLUDES THE OPEN SPACE NETWORK AND SOCIAL NETWORK AND OTHER SPECIAL AREAS SUCH AS OAK POINT AND RESEARCH TECHNOLOGY, CROSSROADS DISTRICT.
SO WE GROUPED THAT SPECIFIC PHASE THREE TO ADDRESS MORE OF THE SPECIAL DISTRICTS WITHIN THE CITY AS WELL.
DID I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, COMMISSIONER RATLIFF? YEAH.
I FEEL LIKE JUST AFTER, NOW THAT YOU'VE DESCRIBED IT AND I'VE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT A LITTLE BIT MORE, IT SEEMS LIKE YOUR PHASE ONE IS REALLY TARGETING A LOT OF THE THINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SEEMS LIKE EVERY MEETING, UM, OPPORTUNITIES FOR DEVELOPMENT OF WHAT'S LEFT AND REDEVELOPMENT OF, OF WHAT NEEDS ATTENTION.
AND SO I APPRECIATE YOUR EMPHASIS ON THOSE AREAS.
UM, I I, I CAN'T DISAGREE WITH YOUR PRIORITIES, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SPEND SOME TIME Y'ALL TO SPEND SOME TIME ON THAT CUZ I THINK THEY'RE VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT AND, UH, AND, AND I, I, I THINK THAT THEY'RE APPROPRIATELY, UM, RANKED.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER RATLIFF.
COMMISSIONER TO, UM, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND UH, I AGREE WITH, UH, UM, COMMISSIONER REIFF REGARDING THE, UH, PHASE A APPROACH AND WHICH IS VERY GOOD.
UH, IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR ALL THE PRIORITIES YOU HAVE SAID, AND I HEARD THAT, THAT ACTUALLY I HAD A SIMILAR QUESTION EARLIER AND NOW FURTHER DOWN INTO THE DETAILS OF THESE FACES.
UM, I DON'T KNOW, DID YOU ALL HAVE A SECTION OF, UH, EVALUATING OR, UM, SIZING THIS TASKS IN EACH PHASE? LIKE HOW MUCH TIME IT WILL REQUIRE FOR EACH PHASE, UH, TO ACCOMPLISH THESE, UM, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE VALUATIONS OR ALL THESE STANDARDS? UM, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE PHASE ONE, UH, HAS THE MAJORITY, MAYBE THAT'S THE HEAVY LIFTING, UH, JOBS AMONG ALL.
AND, UH, FROM NOW TO FALL OF THIS YEAR, WE MAY HAVE ONLY SIX MONTHS.
WOULD THAT BE ENOUGH OR IS PHASE TWO IT WILL OCCUR IN 2024? OR IS IT GONNA BE A FULL YEAR OF 2024, LIKE PHASE THREE? IS IT GONNA BE A FULL YEAR OF THE, SO IS THERE THESE TIMELINES, 20 23, 20 24 IN 2025 ARE JUST THAT, UH, IT'S GONNA HAPPEN IN THAT YEAR OR THAT ACTUALLY GIVES THE TIMEFRAME, LIKE HOW LONG IT TAKES? RIGHT? SO I'M TRYING TO, UM, GET AN IDEA OF HOW YOU SIZE THE, UH, SIZE THE, ALL THE TASKS AND, UH, KIND OF ALLOTTED THEM INTO THESE YEARS.
THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION, COMMISSIONER TONG.
SO THE PHASES WERE SPLIT UP IN A WAY WHERE THE GROUPINGS WERE VERY COMPATIBLE.
UM, AS FAR AS THE, YOU KNOW, TYPE OF LAND USE CONTEXT THAT WE WERE GROUPING AS FAR AS TIMELINE GOES BETWEEN EACH YEAR, STAFF HAS STARTED TO DO SOME PRELIMINARY WORK AHEAD OF WORKING ON THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PLAN AND, UM, THINGS LIKE THAT, WHICH WILL BE DISCUSSED FURTHER IN ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
UM, HOWEVER, UM, WITH THE CONCERN OF THE SIZE AND THE TIMELINE OR THE, UM, DISTRIBUTION OF THE PHASES, I BELIEVE STAFF IS CONFIDENT THAT THIS IS A VERY FAIR ASSESSMENT AS FAR AS A WORKLOAD.
UM, IF MR. BELL, IF YOU WANNA ADD ANYTHING? YEAH, NO, I FEEL LIKE WE'VE GOT, UM, WE'RE NOT STARTING FROM SCRATCH.
A LOT OF THIS IS EXISTING STANDARDS THAT WE'RE JUST REVIEWING AND UPDATING AND THEN TRYING TO PUT IN GRAPHIC FORM.
SO I THINK THE BIGGEST HEAVY LIFT IS GONNA BE PUTTING THESE THINGS INTO GRAPHICS INTO A, A COHESIVE DOCUMENT.
UM, SO AS MOLLY SAID, IF WE THINK 20, WE THINK THIS IS A GOOD TIMELINE.
IT MIGHT BE SLIGHTLY AMBITIOUS, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE READY TO GET AFTER IT.
I NOTICE ONE OF YOUR COMPATRIOTS IN THE BACK NODDING HIS HEAD ABOUT BEING AN AMBITIOUS TIMELINE
UM, COULD YOU EXPAND? WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY SOCIAL NETWORK? THANK YOU.
SOCIAL NETWORK IS AN ACTUAL FEATURE LANGUAGE DESIGNATION OF THE PLAN THAT COVERS LIKE LARGE RECREATIONAL FACILITIES AND LARGE INSTITUTIONS.
I WAS MAKING SURE IT WASN'T JUST LIKE WIFI
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FOR EVERYBODY EVERYWHERE OR SOMETHING.ANYTHING ELSE? ARE WE GOOD? OKAY.
NOW I KNOW WE HAD PEOPLE THAT HAD SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEM THREE, BUT I
[4. (DB) Discussion and Direction: Public Outreach Initiative for Downtown and Silver Line Station Areas - Hold a discussion on the public outreach initiatives for various ongoing Planning projects related to Downtown Plano and the Silver Line Station Areas. Applicant: City of Plano]
REALLY THINK I JUST WANNA GET THROUGH ITEM FOUR SO EVERYONE CAN KIND OF HEAR WHAT THE PLAN IS AND THEN I'LL LET YOU SPEAK AGAIN IF YOU'D LIKE TO.AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR, DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION PUBLIC OUTREACH INITIATIVE FOR DOWNTOWN AND SILVERLINE STATION AREAS.
HOLD A DISCUSSION ON THE PUBLIC OUTREACH INITIATIVES FOR VARIOUS ONGOING PLANNING PROJECTS RELATED TO DOWNTOWN PLANO AND THE SILVER LINE STATION AREAS.
I'M DREW BRONER, LEAD PLANNER WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
THIS ITEM IS AN INTRODUCTION TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT'S UPCOMING PUBLIC OUTREACH INITIATIVES.
WE HAVE A NUMBER OF ONGOING PROJECTS THAT REQUIRE PUBLIC INPUT AND EACH OF THESE PROJECTS HAS BEEN INTRODUCED TO THE COMMISSION IN PREVIOUS DISCUSSION ITEMS. THE TWO MAIN UPCOMING PROJECTS WE'LL BE FOCUSED ON FOR FUTURE OUTREACH ARE THE SILVERLINE STATIONARY PLANS AND THE COMMUNITY DESIGN PLAN.
ADDITIONALLY, WE'RE PLANNING TO COMBINE THE DOWNTOWN STREETS PORTION OF THE THIRD FOR STANDARDS UPDATE THAT WAS PRESENTED IN A PREVIOUS ITEM WITH RELATED DOWNTOWN PLANNING ISSUES TO STREAMLINE THOSE OUTREACH EFFORTS, STAFF IDENTIFIED THE NEED TO BRING IN A CONSULTANT TO MANAGE THE VARIOUS PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT ACTIVITIES ACROSS EACH OF THESE PROJECTS.
THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WILL BE THE OVERALL PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THESE PLANS.
BUT THE PRIMARY TASKS WE ARE RELYING ON CONSULTANT SUPPORT INCLUDE THE DEVELOPMENT OF AN ENGAGEMENT PLAN FOR EACH PROJECT, COORDINATING THE VARIOUS OUTREACH EVENTS, TOOLS, AND ACTIVITIES, BOTH IN PERSON AND VIRTUAL LEADING PROJECT PRESENTATIONS DURING THESE EVENTS, AS WELL AS TO, UH, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND TO CITY COUNCIL.
AND THEY'RE ALSO TASKED WITH PROVIDING TECHNICAL EXPERTISE SUPPORT IN THE AREAS OF COMMUNITY DESIGN STANDARDS, TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT PLANNING, AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF OUR, UH, FINAL DOCUMENTS, UH, INCLUDING THE DEVELOPMENT OF GRAPHICS, RENDERINGS AND OTHER CONTENT STAFF SELECTED THE OLSEN STUDIO TO LEAD OUTREACH EFFORTS ONCE WE FAMILIARIZED THEM WITH OUR VARIOUS PROJECT NEEDS.
THEIR FIRST MAJOR TASK WAS TO DEVELOP DRAFT ENGAGEMENT PLANS.
THESE ARE DETAILED TIMELINES THAT IDENTIFY THE TOOLS AND ACTIVITIES TO BE UTILIZED TO CONDUCT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WITH PLANO RESIDENTS AND STAKEHOLDERS.
OLSON IS HERE TO PRESENT THE DETAILS OF THEIR RECOMMENDED APPROACH.
AND THIS SLIDE HERE HIGHLIGHTS THE RANGE OF PROPOSED IN-PERSON AND VIRTUAL OUTREACH OPPORTUNITIES INTENDED TO GET INPUT FROM BOTH STAKEHOLDER GROUPS AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
WE'LL BE DEVELOPING PROJECT WEBSITES TO POST-ENGAGEMENT INFORMATION AND DRAFT PLAN CONTENT RELATED TO EACH PROJECT THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.
ONE OF THE CRITICAL COMPONENTS OF THE OUTREACH PLAN IS DEVELOPING A STAKEHOLDER GROUP.
THIS GROUP WILL CONSIST OF KEY PROPERTY OWNERS, NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTS, BUSINESS OWNERS, AND OTHER, UH, UH, ENGAGED, UH, INDIVIDUALS WITH SPECIFIC INTERESTS OR INFLUENCE RELATED TO EACH OF THE PROJECT STUDY AREAS.
THESE AREAS INCLUDE DOWNTOWN, THE 12TH STREET STATION AREA AND THE SHILLER ROAD STATION AREA, AND CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS MAY HAVE OVERLAPPING, UH, INTEREST IN, IN, UH, MANY OF THESE AREAS.
UH, WE'LL ALSO BE INCLUDING REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, HERITAGE COMMISSION, AND THE CITY COUNCIL.
THE ENGAGEMENT PLAN TIMELINES RUN THROUGH 2023 AS WE EXPECT TO BE COMPLETE WITH PHASE ONE OF THE COMMUNITY DESIGN PLAN AND THE SILVER LINE STATION AREA PLAN.
BY THE END OF THE YEAR, THE FIRST OUTREACH EVENT FOR THE COMMUNITY DESIGN PLAN WILL BE DOWNTOWN FOCUSED.
UH, THIS IS WHERE WE PLAN TO BRING FORWARD THE RELATED DOWNTOWN STREETS APPROACH FROM THE THOROUGHFARE STANDARDS UPDATE, AND THEN ADDITIONAL DESIGN CONTEXT WILL BE ADDRESSED AS PART OF LATER OUTREACH EVENTS.
THOSE INCLUDE THE NEIGHBORHOODS, RETAIL CORNERS, AND MIXED USE AREAS.
NO ACTION IS REQUIRED OF THIS ITEM.
UH, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO OLSON TO PRESENT MORE DETAIL ON THE PROPOSED ENGAGEMENT PLANS, AND THEN FOLLOWING THEIR PRESENTATION STAFF AND OLSON CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I'M SURE WE BROKE PROTOCOL AND GOT UP TO, TO SPEAK, SO, UH, I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
UM, AND MY NAME IS KEN BOONE, UH, WITH THE OLSEN STUDIO.
WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO BE HERE.
UM, UM, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT ENGAGEMENT AND, AND HOW DO WE GET PEOPLE INVOLVED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S OWNERSHIP OF, UH, THE THINGS WE'RE GONNA WORK ON HERE.
AND SO THAT'S OUR ROLE, UH, FOR THESE PROJECTS.
WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
IT'S ONE OF OUR FAVORITE PART OF, OF BEING PLANNERS AND WHAT WE DO.
UM, I, I AM PRINCIPAL IN CHARGE, UH, FOR OLSON STUDIO.
I'M A COMMUNITY PLANNER, AND I, AND I FOCUS A LOT ON FACILITATION OF MEETINGS AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
UM, SO THAT'LL BE MY ROLE IN THE PROJECT.
UM, OUR STUDIO ITSELF, UH, FOCUSES ON PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, URBAN DESIGN, COMMUNITY DESIGN, UM, AND ALSO LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE.
I AM ALSO A COMMUNITY PLANNER AND PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT
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SPECIALIST.I WILL BE PROJECT MANAGER ON THE BEHALF OF OLSEN STUDIO FOR THE COURSE OF THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS.
UM, AND LIKE KEN MENTIONED, WE ARE PLANNERS.
WE LOVE THIS STUFF, AND WE'RE ALSO PROUD PLANO PROFESSIONALS, WHERE OUR OFFICE HAS ACTUALLY JUST OFF THE D AND T.
UM, AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED THAT PLANO IS BROUGHT US ON TO BE ENGAGED WITH THESE EFFORTS AND AND TO REALLY ENGAGE THE PLANO COMMUNITY.
SO, UM, AS, AS COMMUNITY PLANNERS IN OUR, IN OUR STUDIO, UM, ONE CRITICAL COMPONENT OF ALL OF THE WORK THAT WE DO IS ENGAGEMENT.
IT'S NOT ALL WE DO, UM, BUT IT IS WHAT MAKES OUR COMMUNITY, UH, PROJECTS MOST SUCCESSFUL.
WE FOCUS ON HAVING MEANINGFUL ENGAGEMENT THAT'S THOROUGH AND BUILDS CONSENSUS.
SO WHEN PEOPLE COME TO PRESENT PLANS, UM, YOU HAVE THIS ENTHUSIASTIC GROUP OF PEOPLE BEHIND ME WHO WANT TO BE A PART OF SOMETHING.
UM, AND THEY ARE HERE TO SUPPORT IT.
UM, AND SO, UM, WE UNDERSTAND WHAT STAFF WILL BE GOING THROUGH AND ALL OF THE HARD WORK THAT GOES INTO, UM, ALL OF THE TASKS THAT THEY'RE FOCUSED ON.
UM, NOW AS THEY MOVE THESE PLANS, WE'RE HERE TO HELP THEM ENGAGE WITH THE COMMUNITY SO WE UNDERSTAND WHAT, UM, THEIR INPUT IS AND, AND THEIR NEEDS AND THE OBSTACLES THAT THEY FACE, AND HOW WE CAN OVERCOME THOSE TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY.
SO, UM, THIS IS A, A LOT OF BULLET POINTS THAT REALLY SAYS THE FOCUS OF OUR WORK IN ENGAGEMENT IS TO BUILD CONSENSUS THROUGH A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS, THROUGH INCLUSION, THROUGH THE IDEA THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF SMALL CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE SO THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND FIRST, UH, AND THEN DEVELOP THE PLAN BASED ON THAT UNDERSTANDING.
AT SOME POINT IN THESE, IN THESE PROCESSES, WE UNDERSTAND.
AND THEN IT SORT OF FLIPS TO, OKAY, WE HEARD WHAT YOU SAID, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS? AND THEN WE THEN WANT THE, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ENGAGING WITH US TO TELL US, GIVE US THEIR OPINION ON THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE SEEING AND WE'RE ASKING FOR REFLECTION AND COMMENT ON.
UM, AND SO FOR US, UM, THIS IS A VITAL PART OF THE PROCESS TO GET TO A COMMUNITY FOCUSED, UM, AND SUPPORTED PLAN.
SO WE'RE GONNA DELVE INTO A LITTLE BIT OF THE DETAILS ABOUT WHAT OUR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PLANS ARE LOOKING LIKE.
WE'VE GONE AHEAD AND DRAFTED WORK WITH PLANO STAFF TO DRAFT RALPH PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PLANS.
UM, AND JUST WE WANTED TO INTRODUCE OUR ROLE WITH THE PLANO PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
SO OUR ROLE, AS DREW MENTIONED, IS TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY DESIGN PLAN AND THE SILVER LINE STATION AREA PLANS OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT YEAR.
UM, AND WE HAVE SEVERAL BUCKETS OF WHAT THAT KIND OF LOOKS LIKE HERE.
UM, JUST SOME OVERARCHING THEMES.
WE WORK WITH THE PLAN BRANDING, MAKING SURE THAT IT'S IDENTIFIABLE, UM, THE WEBSITE FOOTPRINT, SOCIAL MEDIA, PUBLIC SURVEYS, AND DIGITAL FEEDBACK OPPORTUNITIES, VISIONING AND FEEDBACK EXERCISES, BOTH IN PERSON AND DIGITAL OPEN HOUSES AND PLANNING CHARETTES AND ANALYSIS AND FINDINGS.
SO WE WORK TO ORGANIZE THESE ACTIVITIES, SCHEDULE THESE ACTIVITIES, UM, AND MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC IS ENGAGED AND THAT IT'S A TRANSPARENT PROCESS.
AND WE GO THROUGH THESE KIND OF SIX BUCKETS.
AND WHAT WE DO IS TO ANALYZE THE FINDINGS, ANALYZE WHAT WE HEAR, SYNTHESIZE IT, AND DELIVER IT TO THE PLANNING STAFF IN A WAY THAT, UM, HELPS THEM TO FORM THE PLAN BASED ON CONSENSUS BUILT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
SO I'M GONNA GO THROUGH, WE HAVE TWO PLANS HERE.
I'M GONNA GO THROUGH SOME OF THE ACTIVITIES FOR THE COMMUNITY DESIGN PLAN, AND THEN FOR THE SILVER LINE.
SO THE COMMUNITY DESIGN PLAN, WE HAVE ACTIVITIES HERE ON THE LEFT.
WE WORK WITH PLANO STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PLANNING EFFORT IS IDENTIFIABLE, RECOGNIZABLE.
UM, AND THIS GRAPHIC OVER HERE ON THE RIGHT SIDE IS OUR DRAFT BRAND GUIDE.
SO THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH THE STAFF TO DEVELOP TO, UH, INCLUDE IN SOCIAL MEDIA, PRESS RELEASES, ALL KINDS OF ACTIVITIES SO THAT THE PLANNING EFFORT IS, UM, IDENTIFIABLE THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.
WE ALSO WORK WITH THE PLANO STAFF ON THE WEBSITE FOOTPRINT AND ASYNCHRONOUS INPUT OPPORTUNITIES, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S ACCESSIBLE, FINDABLE, UM, AND THAT IT LIVES ON THE CITY WEBSITE THROUGHOUT THE PLANNING PROCESS.
WE WORK ON STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT AS WELL.
SO WE WORK WITH THE CITY STAFF TO IDENTIFY STAKEHOLDERS, CREATE ENGAGEMENT OPPORTUNITIES, AND TO, UM, PULL IN KEY PERSONNEL TO HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE.
UM, AND I'LL MENTION TOO, THAT OUR STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT IS, UH, PROVIDES A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES THAT THE PUBLIC ALSO CAN STEP INTO.
UM, BUT WE NEED THAT WORKING GROUP SO THAT THEY CAN PROVIDE VERY ITERATIVE FEEDBACK THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.
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ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND PRESS RELEASES.SO THIS IS WHERE WE PULL IN OUR BRANDING.
WE TRY TO MAKE, KIND OF SHARE IT TO THE WORLD THAT THIS PLANNING PROCESS IS GOING ON, AND MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC IS AWARE OF THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK AND PRESS RELEASES.
WE WORK WITH THE CITY STAFF TO GET THOSE RELEASED AS WELL.
SO THOSE ARE KIND OF OUR FIRST FIVE, UM, AWARENESS ACTIVITIES.
AND THEN THE FIVE AT THE BOTTOM ARE, UM, ENGAGEMENT OPPORTUNITIES.
SO YOU'LL SEE WE HAVE A PUBLIC OPEN HOUSE AND A DIGITAL OPEN HOUSE FOR THE DOWNTOWN STREETS COMING UP THIS SPRING.
UM, THESE ARE OPPORTUNITIES BOTH IN PERSON AND VIRTUAL FOR THE PUBLIC TO COME PROVIDE FEEDBACK, UM, HAVE SMALL CONVERSATIONS.
WE EMPLOY ALL OF OUR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PHILOSOPHY IN THESE EVENTS SO THAT FOLKS CAN HAVE REALLY SMALL CONVERSATIONS WITH PLANNING STAFF WITH US, AND TO CREATE TRANSPARENCY, UM, IN THE PLANNING PROCESS.
THEN WE HAVE PUBLIC IN, UH, SORRY, PUBLIC OPEN HOUSE NUMBER TWO AND DIGITAL OPEN HOUSE NUMBER TWO FOR THE CITYWIDE CONTEXT, AS MOLLY MENTIONED.
AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, PUBLIC OPEN HOUSE NUMBER THREE FOR KIND OF A FINAL REVIEW IN OCTOBER.
SO THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON FOR THE COMMUNITY DESIGN PLAN THIS UPCOMING YEAR.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE A WIDE VARIETY OF ACTIVITIES FOR THE C D P.
WE ALSO HAVE THE SILVER LINE STATION AREA PLAN.
SO, AS YOU KNOW, THE SILVER LINE IS COMING INTO PLANO, UM, AND WE ARE WORKING TO CREATE A PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS FOR THE CREATION OF THE SILVER LION STATION AREA PLANS.
SO SIMILAR TO THE C D P, WE HAVE BRANDING, WEBSITE FOOTPRINT, STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT, SOCIAL MEDIA, AND PRESS RELEASES.
THOSE ACTIVITIES WILL BE INDEPENDENT OF THE ONES GENERATED FOR THE C D P.
UM, AND ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, YOU CAN SEE THE BRAND GUIDE, DRAFT BRAND GUIDE FOR THE SILVER LINE STATION AREA PLANS, AND WE'LL USE THESE TYPE OF MATERIALS THROUGHOUT OUR, UH, ENGAGEMENT ACTIVITIES.
AND THEN THOSE BOTTOM SIX BULLETS ARE OUR ACTIVITIES FOR THE SILVER LINE STATION AREA PLANS.
SO FIRST IS THE V VIRTUAL VISIONING WORKSHOP THAT'S COMING UP IN APRIL.
THIS WILL BE A VIRTUAL OPPORTUNITY FOR STAKEHOLDERS TO, UH, WITH A REALLY BROAD LENS TALK ABOUT WHAT THE FUTURE OF THE STATIONS LOOKS LIKE, WHAT THE FUTURE OF THESE LAND USES LOOKS LIKE, AND WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE.
UM, SO REALLY BIG PICTURE TYPE OF VISIONING.
THEN WE HAVE AN ONLINE PUBLIC SURVEY.
THIS IS A PUBLIC OPPORTUNITY, OF COURSE, ON THE WEBSITE FOR THE PUBLIC TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK.
UM, AND WE'RE WORKING WITH PLANO STAFF TO DEVELOP THESE TYPES OF THINGS THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT QUESTIONS WE NEED TO BE ASKING.
THEN WE HAVE THE PLANNING AND DESIGN CHARETTE.
THE PLANNING AND DESIGN CHARETTE IS A VERY CONDENSED THREE DAY PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT ITERATIVE PROCESS.
SO WE WORK TO, UM, THROW CONCEPTS ON THE WALL AND ASK FOLKS TO COME AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK.
WHAT DO THEY LIKE, WHAT DO THEY DISLIKE? WE GET INTO THE GRAPHICS, AND THE IDEA IS THAT WE THROW A BUNCH OF IDEALS ON THE WALL AND THROUGH THE ITERATIVE PROCESS, BRING DOWN THE IDEAS THAT ARE MOST, UM, PREFERRED BY THE PUBLIC MOST WELL RESPONDED TO, SO THAT THE IDEAS AT THE END OF THE PLANNING CHARETTE, HOPEFULLY WE HAVE A, UM, A GREAT IDEA OF WHAT THE PUBLIC WANTS TO SEE FOR THESE STATIONARY PLANS.
AND THIS WILL TAKE PLACE IN JUNE.
AND OPEN HOUSE NUMBER ONE TAKES PLACE DURING THAT THREE DAY PLANNING AND DESIGN CHARETTE.
SO THE PUBLIC IS OPEN TO COME ONE OF THOSE DAYS TO PROVIDE THEIR FEEDBACK AS WELL.
WE ALSO HAVE A DIGITAL OPEN HOUSE ATTACHED TO THAT OPPORTUNITY IN JUNE AS WELL.
SO IT'S A, THIS IS OUR ONLINE FOOTPRINT FOR THE OPEN HOUSE.
SO THE SAME OPPORTUNITIES WE HAVE TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK IN PERSON.
WE ALSO HAVE UP LIGHTS SO FOLKS CAN PROVIDE THEIR FEEDBACK ON THESE THINGS AFTER THEY'VE HAD A CHANCE TO THINK ABOUT IT OR FROM THE COMFORT OF THEIR HOMES.
AND THEN THE LAST OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE FOR FEEDBACK ON THE SILVER LINE STATION AREA PLAN IS OPEN HOUSE NUMBER TWO, WHICH TAKES PLACE IN SEPTEMBER.
AND THIS IS AFTER THE STAFF HAS HAD TIME TO, UM, GENERATE A LOT OF THE CONTENT OF THE PLAN BASED ON THE CONCEPTS THAT COME OUT OF THE PLANNING AND DESIGN CHARETTE.
SO THESE ARE THE ACTIVITIES WE HAVE, UH, SET OUT.
AND LIKE I SAID, WE'RE WORKING WITH STAFF TO, UM, KIND OF GENERATE THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS AND TO WORK WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S SUCCESSFUL, UM, AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC IS PLUGGED IN, THAT IT'S A TRANSPARENT PROCESS, AND THAT IT'S ULTIMATELY, HOPEFULLY A VERY SUCCESSFUL EFFORT.
WELL, THAT WILL OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS.
UM, FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COMMISSION, THE, UM, THE PROCESS INVOLVES, AS WAS MENTIONED, INVOLVING PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION COUNCIL MEMBERS,
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ET CETERA.AND, UH, COMMISSIONER RATLIFF AND COMMISSIONER CAREY HAVE VOLUNTEERED TO SERVE AS REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE COMMISSION, UH, IN THIS PROCESS.
SO THEY WILL SERVE ON THE PROJECT COMMITTEE, UH, FOR THAT.
AND YOU HEARD HER MENTION THREE DAYS.
UM, THERE'S A LOT OF, OF HEAVY LIFTS, SO COMMISSIONER KERRY'S NOT HERE, BUT THANK YOU COMMISSIONER RATLIFF FOR COMMITTING TO THIS.
UM, IT'S, IT'S, UH, IT'S GONNA BE A LOT OF WORK, BUT IT'S NECESSARY.
AND IN THE END, I THINK WE'LL GET A BETTER RESULT OUT OF IT.
SO, UM, I'M LOOKING FOR SPEAKER BUTTONS TO SEE IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SPEAK UP THERE.
COMMISSIONER TOM, DO YOU HAVE A, UH, COMMENT QUESTION? YES, I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS TO THE, UH, OLSON, UH, STUDIO.
UM, ONE IS THAT YOU MENTIONED THE ITERATIVE, UH, APPROACH THAT YOU'RE DOING AND YOU DESCRIBE THE SESSION, LIKE THE CHARETTE THAT YOU'RE DOING.
IS THAT GONNA BE A ONE SITTING, LIKE ONE TIME EVENT THAT PEOPLE WILL GO THROUGH THEIR COMMENTS AND COME OUT WITH A, A PLAN THAT WOULD WHAT YOU CALL AN ITERATIVE PLAN? YEAH, THAT'S FOR THE CHARETTE, THAT'S WHAT'S PLANNED RIGHT NOW.
SO THERE'LL BE ONE WORKSHOP, CHARETTE, IT WILL BE, RIGHT NOW IT'S PLANNED TO BE THREE DAYS BACK TO BACK TO BACK.
AND SO WE START AT THE BEGINNING.
UM, WE'VE, WE'VE GOT THE, WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE VISIONING SESSION, SO WE NOW WE KIND OF UNDERSTAND ASPIRATIONS AND WANTS AND OBSTACLES, AND WE'VE TAKEN SURVEYS SO WE UNDERSTAND MORE, RIGHT? WE'RE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.
AND THE CHARETTE REALLY IS WHERE YOU SORT OF FLIP THAT AND SAY, OKAY, BASED ON ALL OF THESE THINGS, HERE'S THE OPPORTUNITIES.
HERE'S THE IDEA, HERE'S CONCEPTS.
AND WE'RE GONNA THROW A WHOLE BUNCH IN THE TOP OF THE FUNNEL, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA SHOW PEOPLE AND SAY, WHAT DO YOU THINK? WHERE DOES THIS FIT? WHERE DOES IT NOT FIT? WHERE IS IT APPROPRIATE? WHAT DO YOU HATE? WHAT DO YOU LOVE? WHATEVER.
AND SO THE STUFF THAT DOESN'T FIT GETS LEFT BEHIND.
AND THEN WE KEEP NARROWING DOWN TO THE THINGS THAT SEEM TO FIT, THAT SEEM TO WORK, THAT, THAT MATCH THE GOALS AND THE ASPIRATIONS THAT ARE SET OUT IN THE VISION SIDE OF, THAT'S WHY WE DO THE VISION CUZ WE'RE USING IT AS A WAY TO, TO SORT OF LOOK BACK AND MONITOR ARE WE DOING THE THINGS WE SAID WE NEEDED AND WANTED TO DO.
UM, SO WHAT COMES OUT OF THE END, OUT OF THE BOTTOM OF THE FUNNEL, HOPEFULLY, IS A CONSENSUS BUILT CONCEPT THAT THEN NEEDS TO BE REFINED AND WORKED ON.
AND SO DURING THAT PROCESS, THE STAKEHOLDERS ARE INVOLVED, THE STAKEHOLDER GROUP IS INVOLVED, AND THE PUBLIC IS INVOLVED, AND THE PUBLIC WILL WILL BE EXPOSED TO AND SEE ALL OF THE SAME THINGS THAT THE STAKEHOLDERS DID.
IT'S JUST, WE CAN'T HAVE THE PUBLIC AS OUR, UM, WORKING GROUP, RIGHT? SO WE HAVE TO FIND SOME WAY TO CREATE A, A GROUP THAT WE CAN CREATE A FEEDBACK LOOP, RIGHT? AND, AND, AND ASK QUESTIONS TOO AND HAVE THEM BE RESPONSIVE TO THAT.
UM, BUT WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC HAS ACCESS NOT ONLY THROUGH THE OPEN HOUSE, BUT ALSO THROUGH THE ONLINE OPEN HOUSE WHERE ALL OF THE SAME MATERIAL WILL BE UP.
SO IF YOU CAN'T ATTEND A PUBLIC MEETING, WE KNOW THERE'S LOTS OF PEOPLE WHO DON'T OR, OR WILL NOT.
UM, THEY HAVE THE CHANCE TO GIVE US THE SAME LEVEL OF FEEDBACK THAT YOU CAN IF YOU, IF YOU GO TO THE MEETING ITSELF.
AND SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ITERATIVE, WE'RE GONNA START WIDE.
THERE'S GONNA BE STUFF YOU DON'T LIKE, WE'RE GONNA LEAVE THAT BEHIND AND WE'RE JUST GONNA KEEP WORKING OUR WAY DOWN THE FUNNEL SO WE GET SOMETHING THAT, THAT, THAT FITS AND IS RIGHT.
UM, AND THEN WE REFINE FROM THERE.
AND SO WHAT WE ASK OF OUR STAKEHOLDERS, UM, IS THAT THEY PARTICIPATE AND THEY ACTIVELY WANT TO BE A PART OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.
UM, AND THEY TELL US WHAT THEY THINK.
UM, AND, UH, THAT INCLUDES, UH, NOT ONLY REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, BUT IT ALSO INCLUDES PROPERTY OWNERS, UM, BUSINESS OWNERS, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE INVESTED AND WANT TO BE A PART OF THE FUTURE FOR DOWNTOWN.
UM, THAT'S WHO WE WANT ON THOSE STAKEHOLDER GROUPS.
I WOULD ALSO TELL YOU THAT, THAT, UM, THE WAY WE APPROACH IT IS, UM, WHERE WE START IS JUST A, AN INITIAL START.
IF WE, IF THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT NEED TO BE IN THE ROOM TO GIVE US FEEDBACK, WE ENCOURAGE THAT THOSE PEOPLE, UH, COME AND, AND ARE A PART OF THAT, THAT GROUP.
SO, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT IT.
UM, WE THINK IT'S A GOOD PROCESS THAT, THAT, UH, UM, HAS HAD SUCCESS IN A LOT OF PLACES WE'VE BEEN.
UM, WHAT I WAS TRYING TO ASK IS THAT, UM, THE MORE TRADITIONAL ITERATIVE APPROACH THAT, UH, I'VE LEARNED FROM THE SOFTWARE DEVELOPMENT BACKGROUND IS THAT WHEN YOU COLLECT ALL THESE STAKEHOLDER DESIRES, IDEAS, OR REQUIREMENTS, WE WOULD WANT, I THINK WE PROBABLY WANT TO GIVE THE, UH, STAFF MEMBER SOME TIME TO DIGEST AND DESIGN AND, UH, DEVELOP THEIR PLANS.
AND THEN IT, YOU KNOW, UH, IT'S NOT GONNA BE TWO DAYS, IT'S GONNA BE, NOT GONNA BE THREE DAYS.
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THEY PROBABLY NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME THAN THREE DAYS TO DEVELOP, TO DEVELOP THEIR IDEAS BASED ON THE FEEDBACKS THAT WE GET OR THE INPUT FROM THE STAKEHOLDERS, AND THEN COME UP WITH THEIR PLANS.AND THEN THE SECOND ROUND WILL BE THE STAKEHOLDERS REVIEW WHAT THEY HAVE.
SO THAT'S MORE OF A ITERATIVE APPROACH THAT I'M, UH, ENVISIONING.
THAT'LL PROBABLY BE MORE, UM, THERE'S JUST MORE ROUNDS OF ITERATIONS THAN JUST ONE TIME.
I, I'M HOPING THERE WILL BE PROCESS LIKE THAT.
SO, SO, SO PART OF THE, THE WAY, AND, AND WE CAN CERTAINLY MODIFY, I MEAN, WE'RE WORKING FOR, UM, YOUR COMMUNITY.
SO PART OF THE, THE, THE, UM, THE REALLY GREAT PART OF THE CHARETTES, THE WAY THAT THAT THEY'RE SET UP FOR, THE WAY WE SET THEM UP IS THE IDEA OF, OF FOCUS AND COMPRESSION.
AND SO I CAN HOLD SOMEBODY'S FOCUS FOR A LITTLE WHILE, UM, AND I, IF I CAN, CAN GET PEOPLE TO COMMIT TO FOCUS FOR, ON THEIR WAY TO WORK OVER LUNCH AND ON THEIR WAY HOME OVER THOSE THREE DAYS IN, IN SMALL INCREMENTS OF TIME.
I DON'T, I DON'T WANT THREE DAYS OF YOUR TIME, I PROMISE YOU THAT,
BUT WHAT I DO WANT YOU TO DO IS WE'RE GONNA HAVE SESSIONS FOR THE STAKEHOLDERS TO COME IN AND REVIEW.
IN BETWEEN EACH ONE OF THOSE REVIEW SESSIONS, THERE WILL BE WORK BEING DONE TO ADVANCE THAT.
SO THE ITERATIVE PROCESS IS HAPPENING QUICKLY, BUT WE'RE STILL GETTING, UH, HUGE AMOUNTS OF FEEDBACK AND, AND, UM, AND INPUT ALONG THE WAY.
SO INSTEAD OF DRAGGING IT OUT TO THREE MONTHS, WE CAN DO WHAT WE CAN DO IN THREE MONTHS, OVER THREE DAYS.
IF EVERYBODY IS FOCUSED AND THEY'RE PARTICIPATING.
AND THAT INCLUDES STAKEHOLDERS, THAT INCLUDES US, UH, BRINGING OUR STAFF THERE.
THAT IN THAT CERTAINLY INCLUDES, UH, THE PLANO STAFF AS WELL.
SO THAT, THAT'S HOW WE WOULD TYPICALLY SET ONE UP.
IF WE NEED TO PULL SOME OF THESE COMPONENTS APART, THAT'S CERTAINLY POSSIBLE.
BUT YOU LOSE COMPRESSION AND YOU ALSO LOSE FOCUS CUZ YOU'RE LIKE, OKAY, I NEED TO GET UP TO SPEED AGAIN ON WHAT THIS IS.
AND SO IT, IT'S PART OF THAT COMPRESSION IS ABOUT BEING ABLE TO FOCUS ON THAT THING AND MOVE IT FORWARD.
YOU DON'T, IT'S NOT THE FINAL PIECE, IT'S THE MIDDLE PIECE.
IT'S THE, IT'S THE CONCEPT IDEA GENERATION PIECE.
THERE IS A, A LONG PIECE AFTER THAT THAT IS ABOUT REFINEMENT, IT'S ABOUT ANALYSIS, IT'S ABOUT REVIEWING DATA, IT'S ABOUT ALL THOSE THINGS.
THEN YOU BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AND SAY, HERE, HERE IS WHAT YOU TOLD US AND HERE'S HOW IT'S BEEN REFINED.
WHAT DO YOU THINK? WHICH GETS TO YOUR, TO YOUR SECOND, UM, YOUR SECOND POINT.
I THINK WE JUST NEED THAT FLEXIBILITY YEAH.
TO WORK OUT WITH OUR STAFF MEMBERS ABSOLUTELY.
SO THAT THERE'S MORE THAN ONE ITERATIONS BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO COLLECT EVERYTHING FROM, YOU KNOW, SPEND ALL THESE EFFORT, GIVE IT TO THE STAFF AND THE STAFF DEVELOPED ACCORDING TO THEIR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THEY GOT.
AND THEN WHEN WE GET WENT BACK TO THE STAKEHOLDERS, THEY SORT OF LIKE, NO, NO, NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANTED.
SO WE WANT THAT FEEDBACKS MORE OFTEN INSTEAD OF JUST ONE TIME.
I THINK
AND I THINK THE WAY THAT'S HOW THE PROCESS WILL WORK OKAY.
TO GO THROUGH IT, BECAUSE STAFF WILL BE A PART OF THESE ONGOING, RIGHT? WITH THE STAKEHOLDER GROUP.
THE STAKEHOLDER GROUP IS A SOMEWHAT STATIC GROUP, RIGHT? YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SPECIFIC PEOPLE THAT ARE APPOINTED BASED ON THEIR AREA THAT THIS, THIS ONE PART OF THE PLAN RELATES TO.
THE, THE, THE GROUP WILL BE INVITED FROM A POOL THAT'S REPRESENTATIVE OF THOSE INTERESTS.
BUT LET'S CLEARLY DEFINE FOR EVERYONE HERE.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A STAKEHOLDER GROUP WHO'S COMMITTED THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROCESS.
THOSE GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS ARE GOING TO BE, TO BE A PART OF THIS ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, YOU HAVE ALL OF THE COMMUNITY INPUT THAT COMES IN AS WELL.
RIGHT? SO THE DIALOGUE IS CONTINUAL AND ONGOING.
SO IT'S NOT A, LET'S GET A GROUP OF PEOPLE TOGETHER, GET ALL THE FEEDBACK.
THAT'S EXACTLY HANDED OFF TO STAFF.
THEY'RE GONNA TAKE AND GIVE US A DRAFT.
IT'S GONNA GO THROUGH THIS LOOP SEVERAL TIMES.
AND YOU, YOU MENTIONED THAT A COUPLE TIMES.
THAT FEEDBACK LOOP IS KEEPING THAT GOING FOR SURE.
THAT WAS JUST MY FIRST QUESTION.
THE SECOND QUESTION IS, DO YOU, ARE YOU PLANNING TO DO, UH, DIFFERENT LANGUAGES? CUZ THERE ARE A LOT OF, UH, DIFFERENT ETHNIC GROUPS IN PLANO AND THERE MIGHT BE OTHER PEOPLE WHO PREFER A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE.
DO YOU HAVE PLANS, UM, DOING DIFFERENT LANGUAGE, UH, SESSIONS? WE, WE CERTAINLY WILL IF, IF IT'S WARRANTED AND, AND WE'RE GONNA FOLLOW STAFF'S DIRECTION ON, ON WHEN THOSE THINGS ARE NEEDED AND HOW THEY'VE BEEN NEEDED IN THE PAST.
UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE CERTAINLY OPEN TO THAT AND WE CAN, WE CAN PROVIDE FOR THAT.
WE, WE JUST NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE DIRECTION ON, ON THE CITY'S SIDE AS
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TO HOW, HOW THEY'D LIKE TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE NEEDS.COMMISSIONER BROSKY, I LOVE TALKING ABOUT FEEDBACK.
I THINK, UH, TO COMMISSIONER TONG'S POINT, UH, MY EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH THE STAFF ON THE INTERATIVE PROCESS, THEY WERE VERY QUICK ABOUT, UH, GETTING THINGS DONE.
SO FIRST, I, I AM, I'M REALLY EXCITED THAT WE'RE BEING VERY INTENTIONAL AND PROACTIVE IN SEEKING, UH, INPUT.
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR LANGUAGE OF MEANINGFUL AND, UH, BUILDING CONSENSUS.
I THINK, UM, IN THE LAST THREE TO FIVE YEARS, WE'VE WORKED VERY HARD IN PLANO TO BUILD CONSENSUS TO, UH, GET EVERYBODY ON BOARD AND MOVING IN THE SAME DIRECTION.
UM, SO I HAD ONE QUESTION, AND I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S FOR YOU OR MAYBE DREW, UM, UH, IN THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE SILVER LINE IN THE COMMUNITY TO DESIGN STUFF, ARE WE GONNA HAVE ENOUGH ROOM FOR THE FEEDBACK THAT I THINK WE'RE HEARING, UH, AROUND THE THOROUGHFARE STANDARDS? SO THE, THE THOROUGHFARE STANDARDS, THE DOWNTOWN PIECE WILL BE UPFRONT WITH THE OTHER DOWNTOWN TOPICS.
UM, AND, AND THEN THE, IT'LL CONTINUE TO MOVE ALONG WITH THE THOROUGH FIRST STANDARDS TIMELINE.
UH, THERE'LL BE A GENERAL PUBLIC, UH, INPUT, UH, OPPORTUNITY FOR THE OVERALL THIRD OUR STANDARDS DOCUMENT, UH, WHICH WOULD FOLLOW ITS CALL FOR PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, SO IT'S KIND OF FOLLOWING ITS OWN TIMELINE SEPARATE FROM THESE TWO BIG, UH, INITIATIVES THAT ARE REALLY AT ITS EARLY STAGE.
THE THOR STANDARDS ARE REALLY KIND OF AT THE TAIL END, UH, OF ITS DEVELOPMENT.
SO IT'S READY FOR, UH, ESSENTIALLY IT'S KIND OF FINAL PUBLIC REVIEW, UH, OF, OF THAT PROCESS.
SO IT'LL BEGIN ITS PUBLIC, UM, REVIEW PERIOD, UH, FAIRLY SOON ONCE THAT, UH, DOCUMENT IS IN A FINAL DRAFT FORM.
I THOUGHT I, WE HAD SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME INPUT THROUGH THIS PROCESS ON THAT AS WELL, UH, FOR THE DOWNTOWN STREETS PORTION.
CAUSE WE KNOW THAT THERE'S PARTICULAR INTEREST FROM DOWNTOWN STAKEHOLDERS ON THAT ITEM, AND WE'RE BRINGING OTHER DOWNTOWN TOPICS.
SO WE SAW THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING FORWARD THE DOWNTOWN STREETS PORTION OF THE THEOR STANDARDS AS PART OF THIS OVERALL TIMELINE.
IS THERE GONNA BE ENOUGH TO, ARE WE GONNA GET ENOUGH TIME TO HEAR FROM THEM IN A MEANINGFUL WAY ON THE DOWNTOWN YES.
STREET SPECIFICALLY? UH, SO IT WOULD BE AN ONE, ONE INITIAL, UH, INPUT GATHERING, UH, FORMAT FOR THAT.
UM, AND THEN IT WOULD BE JUST ITERATIVE THROUGH THE, THE FINAL REVIEW PROCESS OF THE OVERALL THE STANDARDS.
UM, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE PROCESS THAT YOU'VE DESCRIBED FROM WITH THE OLSEN, UM, GROUP, UH, SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSES THE CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED BY OUR SPEAKERS EARLIER ABOUT WANTING A SEAT AT THE TABLE.
I THINK THIS DOES PROVIDE THEM THAT, UM, I HAD AN EXPERIENCE IN THE PAST OF BEING A REPRE A STAKEHOLDER REPRESENTATIVE ON A DIFFERENT GROUP AT, UH, ADDRESSING A DIFFERENT ISSUE AND A DIFFERENT CITY IN WHICH THE, UH, CONSULTANT IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE, UH, APPARENTLY VIEWED IT, HIS FUNCTION TO TRY TO PUSH EVERYBODY THERE TO ACQUIESCE TO A, A PREDETERMINED OUTCOME THAT THE PRINCIPAL WHO HAD HIRED THE CONSULTANT WANTED TO ACHIEVE.
AND WE WERE SUCCESSFUL, BUT NOT BECAUSE OF THE CONSULTANT IN THAT INSTANCE, BUT IN SPITE OF HIM, WE HAD TO PUSH BACK AND WE HAD TO PUSH BACK STRONGLY AND THROUGH OUR EFFORTS, GAIN EITHER, UH, CONSENSUS WITH THE OTHER STAKEHOLDERS, OR IN THE CASE OF ONE BIG MAJOR STAKEHOLDER, GRUDGING ACQUIESCENCE, YOU KNOW, TO WHAT WAS NECESSARY TO BENEFIT, UH, UH, AS MANY OF THE STAKEHOLDERS AS POSSIBLE.
UM, SO I'M, FROM WHAT I'M HEARING, WHAT I THINK IS CORRECT, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND IT, THAT YOU VIEW YOUR ROLE AND AS I WOULD VIEW YOUR ROLE AS BEING A FACILITATOR TO TRY TO, UH, ASSIST THE STAKEHOLDERS IN, IN FINDING COMMON GROUND AND REACHING CONSENSUS RATHER THAN IN STRONG ARMING THEM INTO DOING WHAT YOU WANT THEM TO DO.
BECAUSE IF, IF THE LATTER IS, IS YOUR INTENTION, THEN I THINK THE PROJECT IS DOOMED TO FAILURE.
UH, BUT IF THE FORMER IS YOUR INTENTION, THEN THAT IS YOUR BEST CHANCE FOR SUCCESS.
YEAH, I, I WOULD, I WOULD, UH, ADDRESS IT, UH, VERY SIMPLY IN THAT I ABSOLUTELY SEE OUR ROLE AS FACILITATOR.
UM, WE DON'T HAVE A PROVERBIAL DOG IN THAT FIGHT BECAUSE OUR, OUR ROLE HERE IS TO GET AS MUCH UNDERSTANDING AS WE CAN ABOUT, UH, WHAT THE
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STAKEHOLDERS AND THE COMMUNITY CARE ABOUT YEAH.AND, AND, AND THEN COMMUNICATE THAT EFFECTIVELY TO STAFF SO THAT THEY CAN THEN, UH, PUT THAT INTO THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS EVENTUALLY, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
100%, UM, AS FACILITATORS FOR THIS PROJECT, FOR THE COMMUNITY FOR UNDERSTANDING, RIGHT.
CAUSE IN MY EARLIER SCENARIO, THE, THE PRINCIPAL WHO SHALL REMAIN NAMELESS, WAS A MAJOR ENTITY IN THIS AREA, APPARENTLY BROUGHT IN THE CONSULTANT AND SAID, HERE'S WHAT WE WANT YOU TO GET FOR US.
YOU KNOW, AND THAT WAS THE WRONG APPROACH.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE LOVE THIS PART OF IT.
UH, WE LOVE THE TRANSPARENCY OF IT.
UM, AND, UM, UH, WE DON'T, WE DON'T DO ANY EDITING.
WE DON'T DO ANY, UM, UH, FROM A, FROM THE INPUT THAT WE RECEIVE.
UM, AND WE RECORD EVERY SINGLE THING THAT WE RECEIVE FROM THEM IN THEIR OWN WORDS, UM, SO THAT WE, THERE'S NO FILTER HERE FROM THEIR MOUTHS TO WHAT GETS PUT ON THE PAPER FOR US.
UM, SO WE, WE TAKE THAT CHARGE VERY, VERY, UM, UH, UH, STRONGLY THAT THAT'S OUR ROLE HERE AND WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING.
I DON'T SEE ANY MORE SPEAKER BUTTONS UP THERE.
I THINK IT WAS SMART OF STAFF TO SAY, HEY, WE NEED TO BRING IN FACILITATORS TO MANAGE THIS PROCESS.
UM, I, I WOULD SAY THAT YOU, TO SOME DEGREE ALSO SERVE AS INTERPRETERS, BECAUSE YOU'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE PLANNING LANGUAGE.
NOT EVERYBODY, EVERY STAKEHOLDER OR EVERY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC THAT COMES TO ONE OF THESE THINGS IS GONNA UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING THAT'S BEING DISCUSSED.
AND YOU MIGHT VERY WELL BE ABLE TO PUT IT IN LAYMAN'S TERMS. SO, UH, ANYWAY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, SO I THINK WE'RE GOOD.
DREW, ANYTHING YOU WANNA WRAP UP? NOPE, THAT'S, THAT'S THE END.
UNLESS WE CAN ANSWER ANY, UH, FURTHER QUESTIONS, I THINK WE'RE GOOD.
UH, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU.
UH, AGAIN, I SINCERELY APPRECIATE THE WAY THAT, UH, OUR PLANNING STAFF HAS, UM, MADE IT A PURPOSE TO SEEK FEEDBACK FROM OUR CITIZENS, UH, BOTH, UM, OUR RESIDENTS AS WELL AS OUR CITIZENS THAT OUR BUSINESSES.
UM, I SAID I'D LET YOU SPEAK AGAIN AFTER FOUR, SO IT'S AFTER FOUR, SO WE WILL, OR ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
SO, UH, FIRST, UH, SPEAKER IS PAM HOLLAND.
PAM HOLLAND, 1611 AVENUE, AVENUE, H H AVENUE.
UM, IT MAY SOUND LIKE, UH, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THING.
I'M, I'M JUST RESPONDING AS I UNDERSTOOD ITEM THREE AND FOUR, UM, FIRST COMMUNITY DESIGN.
I AM HAPPY TO SEE, UH, THIS BEING BROUGHT TO THE TABLE.
UM, PEOPLE ARE USED TO, IN PLACES LIKE LEGACY BISHOP PARKS, HAVING SOME AESTHETIC CONTINUITY.
UM, FOR THE MOST PART, DOWNTOWN DOESN'T EXACTLY HAVE THAT.
UM, AND IT, BUT MORE AND MORE IS ONE OFF.
LARGE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS COME TO DOWNTOWN.
UH, WE COULD HAVE THIS RANDOM WILLY-NILLY PATCHWORK OF WHAT THOSE INDIVIDUAL DEVELOPERS SEE AS APPROPRIATE, WALKABLE, URBAN, EVERY, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF 'EM HAVE DIFFERENT IDEA ABOUT THAT.
UM, SOME BUSINESS OR PROPERTY OWNERS MAY SAY THEY DON'T LIKE THE IMPOSITION OF, UH, THESE KIND OF STANDARDS AF SOMEWHAT AFTER THE FACT, OR IS THERE, UH, GOING INTO A PROJECT, BUT THEY WILL BE THE BENEFICIARY OF THESE PLANS.
IT WILL ELEVATE THE WHOLE CONTEXT, MAKE IT MORE APPEALING, UH, TO VISITORS AND PEOPLE WHO DECIDE THEY MIGHT WANNA LIVE HERE.
LIKE WE TELL FOLKS UNSURE ABOUT THE UPSIDE OF LIVING IN OUR HERITAGE DISTRICT NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT WHAT YOU DO, IT'S ABOUT WHAT YOUR NEIGHBOR DOES.
SO IT PROTECTS YOU FROM MAYBE THEM DOING SOMETHING ON THE CHEAP OR ILL-ADVISED JUST A THOUGHT.
UH, SO MUCH OF DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN DONE WITHOUT SOME KIND OF A BIG PICTURE PLAN THIS WAY, BUT IT'S NOT TOO LATE.
WHAT'S ALREADY HERE WILL PROVIDE US THE QUIRKY CHARM FABRIC, UH, THAT WE ALL KNOW AND LOVE.
BUT THE STUFF THAT COMES IN BUILT ACCORDING TO NEW STANDARDS, I KIND OF THINK OF IT AS, WHEN YOU LOOK AT A FAMILY, TWO PARENTS AND NATURAL CHILDREN, THEY'RE ALL INDIVIDUALS, BUT YOU SEE JUST ENOUGH SIMILARITY IN THEM THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY ALL BELONG TOGETHER.
SO THAT'S, UM, THAT ABOUT THE OPEN
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SPACE STANDARDS, UH, THEY NEED NOT TO JUST BE ARBITRARY VISUAL RELIEF, BUT PLANNED IN KEEPING WITH REALLY GOOD RESEARCH, LIKE I SAID BEFORE.SO, SHOULD I GO ON TO NUMBER FOUR? YEAH.
I THOUGHT THEY ALL OVERLAPPED.
UH, I'VE BEEN PART OF THE ART AND DESIGN COMMITTEE FOR BOTH THE AT GRADE AND AERIAL 12TH STREET STATIONS.
SO EXCITED ABOUT THAT PROCESS.
I'M VERY MUCH LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING PART OF THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, UH, STAKEHOLDER PROCESS FOR THIS PROJECT.
UM, WHEN WE WERE IN THE ART AND DESIGN, UH, PROCESS FOR THE DART STATION, WE TALKED SO MUCH ABOUT WHAT COULD COME ALONG 12TH STREET UPJ.
THESE ARE EXCITING TIMES, AND WE HAVE IN PLACE ALREADY THINGS THAT THE CITY HAS PAID FOR THAT WE CAN LEVERAGE.
IT'S, I'M, I'M SUPER PUMPED ABOUT THIS.
UH, AND IF THE PARKS DEPARTMENT HAS INCLUDED THE URBAN DOG RUN THAT WE ADVISED, UH, UNDER THE DART OVERPASS, THERE'S GONNA PUT TONS OF FEET AND EYES ON THAT STREET.
THIS IS ALL COMING TOGETHER TO BE GREATER THAN THE SUM OF ITS PARTS I SUPPORT MOVING FORWARD WITH ALL THREE OF THESE AGENDA ITEMS. AND THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.
AND FINALLY, UH, MR. FRANK TURNER, WE HAVE NO ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS.
MR. DAR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK? SHE'S FINE.
THANKS FOR BEING HERE AND SPEAKING, EVERYBODY.
UM, IT'S IMPORTANT DECISIONS THAT ARE BEING MADE, AND I THINK WE'RE TAKING THE RIGHT APPROACH.
LET'S GET SOMEBODY TO HELP US SPEAK THE SAME LANGUAGE, WORK THROUGH, UH, DIFFERENCES.
AND A LOT OF TIMES, DIFFERENCES AREN'T REALLY DIFFERENCES.
THEY'RE JUST A DIFFERENT UNDERSTANDING OF THE SAME THING.
SO, UM, I'M, I'M, I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT.
I THINK WE HAVE GOOD REPRESENTATION FROM P AND Z STANDPOINT WITH COMMISSIONER RATLIFF, COMMISSIONER CAREY.
THEY BOTH BRING EXPERIENCE, AN UNDERSTANDING OF WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY.
SO, UH, I FEEL REALLY GOOD ABOUT OUR ROLE IN THIS PROCESS FROM A STAKEHOLDER STANDPOINT.
[5. (EH) Items for Future Agendas.]
FIVE, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS ITEMS FOR FUTURE AGENDAS.IS THERE ANYTHING WE WANT TO ADD TO A FUTURE AGENDA? NOPE.
VERY WELL, WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 8:42 PM.