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I NOW DECLARE

[PRELIMINARY OPEN MEETING]

THAT THE P PLANO CITY COUNCIL'S CONVENIENT OPEN SESSION THAT ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.

THE COUNCIL WILL NOW RECESS IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION IN TRAINING ROOM A TO HOLD A CLOSED EXECUTIVE MEETING PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF TEXAS VERNONS, TEXAS CODES ANNOTATED GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 5 51.

THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AUTHORITY CONTAINED IN SECTION 5 51 0.0 71 TO CONSULT WITH THE ATTORNEY TO RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE AND DISCUSS LITIGATION SECTION 5 51 0.0 72 TO DISCUSS REAL ESTATE MATTERS AND SECTION 5 51 0.0 74 TO DISCUSS PERSONNEL MATTERS.

THANK YOU.

I NOW DECLARE THAT THE PLAINTIFF CITY COUNCIL PRELIMINARY OPEN MEETING IS RECONVENED IN OPEN SESSION, THAT ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF, UH, COUNCILMAN RICK ELLI, WHO WILL BE HERE SHORTLY.

OUR FIRST ITEM ON THE PRELIMINARY AGENDA IS CONSIDERATION AND ACTION RESULTING FROM THE EXECUTIVE SESSION PERSONNEL APPOINTMENTS BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.

MR. MAYOR, WE WOULD LIKE TO, UH, TABLE THIS UNTIL THE MARCH 13TH MEETING, AND I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION TO TABLE.

ALL RIGHT, SO WE'LL, UH, WE'LL TABLE THIS APPOINT UNTIL MARCH 13TH.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

OKAY.

MOTION PASSES.

NEXT ITEM, DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION, UH, REGARDING A CRE REQUEST OF EXTENSION OF LINE OF DUTY.

LEAVE CHIEF.

GOOD EVENING, COUNSEL, MAYOR, CITY MANAGER.

UH, I AM HERE TONIGHT WITH FIREFIGHTER MICHAEL SWEENEY.

HE'S SITTING UP THERE NAVIGATING THE STAIRS OR A LITTLE BIT OF A CHALLENGE, SO HE'S GONNA, HE'S GONNA SIT UP THERE, SO IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR HIM, WE'LL, WE CAN, HE'LL FIELD THEM UP THERE.

UH, WE'RE HERE TO ASK FOR AN EXTENSION OF HIS FULL, UH, FOR AN ADDITIONAL YEAR ON DECEMBER.

WELL, MICHAEL'S BEEN WITH US, UH, SINCE OCTOBER 13TH, 1997.

AND ON, UH, DECEMBER THE SECOND, 2021, UH, HE WAS ON A MEDICAL CALL WHERE, UH, THE PATIENT HAD SLIPPED AND FALLEN AND MICHAEL, UH, WENT TO LIFT.

THE PATIENT FELT A PAIN IN HIS LOWER BACK.

AND, AND SO SINCE THAT TIME, HE HAS BEEN, FOR THAT DAY, HE WAS ACTUALLY TREATED AT MEDICAL CENTER PLANO IN THE ER.

AND SINCE THAT TIME, HE'S BEEN, UH, RECEIVED, UH, SEVERAL FORMS OF TREATMENT, INCLUDING SURGERY, UH, OVER THE PAST, UH, YEAR AND, AND A COUPLE OF MONTHS.

AND SO, UH, HE'S STILL CURRENTLY RECEIVING TREATMENT AND UNABLE TO WORK AT THIS TIME.

SO UP UNTIL NOW, MICHAEL'S RECEIVED A HUNDRED PERCENT OF HIS SALARY IN ORDER FOR HIM TO CONTINUE TO RECEIVE THAT 100% OVER THE NEXT YEAR.

UH, IT REQUIRES COUNCIL APPROVAL.

SO, UM, THAT, THAT'S WHAT OUR REQUEST IS, IS THAT WE EXTEND THAT OUT.

IT WOULD BE THROUGH, UH, TILL DECEMBER 2ND, 2023.

AND, UH, IF WE OPT NOT TO DO IT, THEN MICHAEL, DURING THAT TIME, WOULD, WOULD DROP DOWN TO 70% OF HIS PAY.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE CHIEF? CAN I GET A HAND VOTE? EVERYBODY OKAY WITH, UH, WITH THAT RECOMMENDATION? THANK Y'ALL.

THANK YOU, EX DEPARTMENTAL UPDATE, DIRECTOR LIBERTY, UH, LIBBY HOLTMAN.

HEY, ARE WE? GOOD EVENING MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGER.

I'M DELIGHTED TO BE HERE THIS EVENING REPRESENTING YOUR LIBRARY.

WE HAVE FIVE PUBLIC LOCATIONS ACROSS THE CITY, UH, AS WELL AS AN ONLINE PRESENCE, AND WE HAVE MULTIPLE MATERIALS AVAILABLE TO YOU SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, 69 HOURS A WEEK.

OUR STRATEGIC GOALS FOCUS ON THESE THREE PILLARS TO ENGAGE, ENRICH, AND EDUCATE.

WE WANNA WELCOME PATRONS WITH EXCELLENT CUSTOMER SERVICE IN WELCOMING SPACES.

WE WANNA PROVIDE INNOVATIVE TECHNOLOGIES ONCE YOU'RE WITH US OR IF YOU'RE VISITING FROM HOME.

AND WE ALSO WANNA CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE OF ALL AGES TO EXPLORE, CREATE, INNOVATE, AND COLLABORATE.

THESE ARE SOME OF THE AWARDS WE WON LAST YEAR.

UH, TEAM PPL IS ALWAYS LOOKING FOR WAYS TO HIGHLIGHT OUR SERVICES, WHETHER IT'S AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, STATE LEVEL, OR NATIONAL LEVEL.

WE WERE ALSO JUST NOTIFIED THAT WE RECEIVED A TM LDA AWARD FOR EXCELLENCE FOR 2022.

HERE'S A LOOK AT OUR BUSINESS SNAPSHOT, AND THOSE ARE ACTUALLY A SNAKE PEAK AT HARRINGTON LIBRARY.

THOSE ARE THE NEW STUDY ROOMS. UM, WE

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HAD A LOT OF CIRCULATION MATERIALS LAST YEAR.

PEOPLE CAME BACK FOR CLASSES, BOTH IN-HOUSE AND VIRTUALLY.

WE WERE DELIGHTED TO RECEIVE $103,000 FROM OUR FRIENDS, UH, GROUP IN DECEMBER.

THAT'S GONNA HELP US FUND A SECOND OUTREACH VEHICLE THAT WE HOPE TO RECEIVE IN 2024.

IT'LL JOIN ITS FRIEND HASHTAG MORE THAN BOOKS OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE BUBBLE VAN, SO THAT'S GREAT.

AND WE COULDN'T DO WHAT WE DO WITHOUT KARINA SADLER AND HER FANTASTIC TEAM OF VOLUNTEERS.

UM, SHE'S ABLE TO FIELD REQUESTS THAT WE, UM, GIVE HER AND THEY HELP BRING IN OUTSIDE BUSINESSES AND CORPORATE VOLUNTEERS.

THEY HELPED US GET READY TO REOPEN DAVIS AND REOPEN HARRINGTON LIBRARY.

WE'RE OFTEN THE FIRST STOP FOR TEENS IN THE COMMUNITY SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE A JOB EXPERIENCE.

AND WE LOVE WORKING WITH ALL OF OUR VOLUNTEERS.

SO, SERVING OUR COMMUNITY, WE HAVE THESE FIVE FOCUS AREAS.

WE HAVE 185 TEAM PPL MEMBERS WHO ARE HEAVILY ENGAGED IN, UM, DEVELOPING CLASSES AND PROGRAMS AND PROVIDING SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY.

THEY SPEAK OVER 26 DIFFERENT LANGUAGES, WHICH IS A BIG BENEFIT IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND OFTEN WE'RE A PLACE WHERE RESIDENTS STOP FIRST TO LEARN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CITY.

SO EARLY LITERACY, YOU MIGHT EXPECT IS ONE OF OUR CORE BUSINESSES.

OUR READING READINESS STORY TIMES ARE OFTEN A GREAT PLACE AND A PLACE FOR FAMILIES TO CONNECT AND, UM, MEET ONE ANOTHER.

WE HAVE THE FOUNDATION OF PRINCIPLES OF EVERY CHILD READY TO READ IN THOSE STORY TIMES.

AND SO NOT ONLY DO CHILDREN LEARN SOCIAL SKILLS, THEY'RE LEARNING HOW TO READ WITH US.

HAMILTON LIBRARY LAST YEAR RECEIVED THE DESIGNATION FOR A FAMILY PLACE.

SOME OF YOU WERE THERE TO CELEBRATE WITH US.

THANK YOU.

UH, THAT'S A NATIONAL DESIGNATION, SO WE'RE PROUD TO HAVE EARNED THAT FOR THE CITY OF PLANO.

WE ALSO RECEIVED A TEXAS STATE LIBRARY AND ARCHIVES GRANT FOR, UM, BOOKS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO ADD TO OUR PARENTING COLLECTION, BOTH IN CHINESE AND SPANISH, AND OUR PARENTING GROUPS, UM, FOR THE FAMILY PLACE.

REALLY APPRECIATED THAT IT HELPED THEM WITH THAT PROGRAM.

BUSINESS AND CAREER IS ANOTHER AREA THAT WE'RE HEAVILY FOCUSED ON.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE PEOPLE SHARE THEIR STORIES WITH US ALL THE TIME ABOUT WHAT THE LIBRARY MEANS TO THEM.

AND WE'VE HEARD IN OUR JOBS, UH, SKILLS BUILDING CLASSES, WE HAD SOMEBODY RETURNING TO THE WORKFORCE AFTER 20 YEARS, THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT NERVOUS THAT THEY CAME TO THE LIBRARY, THEY ATTENDED THE PROGRAM, THEY GOT SOME GREAT RESOURCES, THEY UPDATED THEIR RESUME AND THEY SHARED BACK WITH US HOW MUCH IT MEANT TO THEM TO HAVE THAT RESOURCE AVAILABLE TO THEM.

UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING LATELY WITH OUR ALL ABILITIES PARTNERS.

MY POSSIBILITIES HAS BEEN A PARTNER WITH US SINCE 2021.

WE HAVE A COHORT THAT COMES IN REGULARLY FROM THEM AND WE GIVE THEM WORKPLACE OPPORTUNITIES.

UM, WE JUST STARTED LAST MONTH WITH LIFEPATH SYSTEMS WITH A JOB INTERNSHIP PROGRAM.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE ABILITY AT WORK THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH THROUGH KARINA.

OUR DATABASES, OUR ONLINE RESOURCES ARE VERY WELL UTILIZED, AND OUR ENTREPRENEUR PROGRAMS ARE VERY WELL RECEIVED.

THE SCORE MENTORSHIP PROGRAM IS A ONE-ON-ONE RELATIONSHIP.

IT OCCURS AT LIBRARY ONCE A MONTH WITH A SCORE MENTOR, AND THEN OUR TEAM UP FOR TUESDAY'S.

ENTREPRENEURIAL SUCCESS IS A GREAT NETWORKING PROGRAM.

IT'S FOR PEOPLE THAT WANNA SHARE STORIES AND GET TOGETHER AND LEARN ABOUT BUSINESS RESOURCES IN OUR COMMUNITY.

LAST SUMMER, WE HAD A YOUTH ENTREPRENEUR ACADEMY DURING THE SUMMER, AND IT WAS A GREAT, GREAT PROJECT BASED LEARNING OPPORTUNITY FOR ONE FULL WEEK.

OKAY, FINANCIAL LITERACY.

UM, I HOPE YOU CAN READ THAT IMPACT STORY THAT'S IN THE GRAY BOX.

THIS DELIGHTS ME LIKE NOTHING ELSE IN THIS WORLD WHEN I GET TO HEAR THE STORIES OF WHAT PROGRAMS MEAN TO PEOPLE.

UM, OUR FINANCIAL LITERACY CLASSES ARE REALLY IMPORTANT.

WE HAVE LIBRARIANS TRAINED, UM, FROM THE FEDERAL RESERVE TO OFFER INFORMATIONAL CLASSES FOR ADULTS, BUT WE ALSO BRING IN PARTNERS AND WE OFFER CHALLENGE EXPERIENCES FOR ALL AGES.

AND AS YOU'LL SEE IN THAT IMPACT STORY, OUR YOUNGEST CUSTOMERS ARE LEARNING ABOUT FINANCES AND SHARING.

AND SO THOSE ARE REALLY GREAT THINGS.

WE ALSO, WERE ONE OF THE ONLY LOCATIONS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS TO OFFER THE THINKING MONEY EXHIBIT.

THAT'S A NATIONAL TOURING EXHIBIT.

SO STEAM BASED PRO PROGRAMS, I KNOW I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT STEAM FOR YEARS WITH YOU ALL.

UM, OUR KITS ARE 85 PLUS IN TOPICS.

THEY'RE VERY WELL RECEIVED.

THEY'RE FROM PRESCHOOL ALL THE WAY THROUGH SENIORS.

UM, PEOPLE CAN CHECK THINGS OUT AND LEARN TOGETHER AS A FAMILY.

OUR DIGITAL CREATION SPACES, I'M EXCITED TO SAY WE NOW HAVE THREE ONE'S A WORK IN PROGRESS BECAUSE IT'S AT HARRINGTON, BUT WE HAVE THREE SITUATED THROUGHOUT OUR CITY.

WE HAVE 'EM AT HARRINGTON, HAGGARD, AND PARK.

SO ANYBODY CAN GO IN AND USE THESE DIGITAL CREATION SPACES.

WE HAVE PEOPLE DOING PODCASTS, THEY'RE CREATING MUSIC, WHATEVER THEY CAN THINK OF.

WE'RE HAPPY TO SUPPLY THE RESOURCES AND TOOLS, PARTICULARLY FOR STUDENTS AFTER SCHOOL TO USE.

AND THEN OF COURSE WE HAVE 3D PRINTING, WHICH IS FUN, UM, FOR PEOPLE TO DO AND LEARN.

AND WE HAVE LIBRARIANS THAT ASSIST WITH THAT.

WE HAVE THAT AT PAR, DAVIS AND HARRINGTON ARTS AND CULTURE.

SO IF YOU'VE BEEN TO A LIBRARY, YOU'VE MAYBE ENJOYED

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SOME ART, THAT ART CHANGES ON A REGULAR BASIS.

WE INVITE OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO COME INTO THE LIBRARY AND EXHIBIT WITH US, WHETHER IT'S PARKS AND RECREATIONS ADAPTED ART PROGRAM, OR IT'S THE BRAIN INJURY NETWORK OF DALLAS, OR IT'S JUST, UM, A STUDENT AT SCHOOL THAT WANTS TO SHARE THEIR ART WITH THE WORLD.

THEY CAN SUBMIT AN A REQUEST THROUGH OUR ART COORDINATORS AND WE'RE HAPPY TO DISPLAY THEIR ARTWORK ON THE WALLS.

IT MAKES THE LIBRARY A NICE SPACE TOO.

IT'S ALWAYS SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

I LOVE WALKING THE FLOORS TO SEE THAT.

UM, OUR GENEALOGY CENTER IS HELPING US CELEBRATE OUR HUNDRED 50TH ANNIVERSARY.

IT'S ALSO WHERE YOU CAN DO SOME FAMILY RESEARCH AND HISTORY.

UM, IT'S IN THE BASEMENT OF HAGGARD'S LIBRARY IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN THERE.

IT'S A GREAT SPACE TO L UH, LEARN ABOUT YOUR FAMILY HISTORY.

AND THEN CULTURAL PROGRAMS ARE ALWAYS QUITE POPULAR.

ADDITIONAL LEARNING OPPORTUNITIES.

OUR ENGLISH LANGUAGE LEARNERS, UM, MEET REGULARLY, BOTH VIRTUALLY IN-HOUSE.

AND THEN SOMETIMES IT'S A COMBINATION OF THE TWO.

IT'S A LOT OF CONVERSATIONAL ENGLISH CLASSES.

UH, WE OFFER, UM, ESL CLASSES.

WE HAVE THE PRONUNCIATION APP.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO LEARN ANOTHER LANGUAGE, WE HAVE THAT AVAILABLE TO YOU WITH YOUR LIBRARY CARD.

UM, OUR OLDER ADULT SERIES ARE BOTH VIRTUAL AND IN PERSON.

I BROUGHT SOME KIDS THAT WAS THE PUPPY DOG YOU WERE PLAYING WITH EARLIER, .

UM, THOSE ARE ABOUT TO GO OUT CIRCULATING TO OUR COMMUNITY.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE AN OLDER ADULT TO ENJOY A PUPPY.

UM, I WOULD SAY THAT.

BUT WE HAVE, UM, MEMORY KEEPER SERIES CONNECTING SENIORS.

WE WORK WITH CAREGIVERS.

WE WORK WITH OLDER ADULTS THEMSELVES.

AND REALLY, UM, I THINK THE IMPACT STORY SHARES WHAT IT MEANS TO PEOPLE WHEN THEY CAN CONNECT WITH OTHERS AND LEARN ABOUT THE RESOURCES IN OUR CITY.

WE ALSO WORK WITH, UM, UH, RECREATION IN THEIR DEPARTMENT AS WELL FOR THAT.

AND THEN OUR NEURODIVERGENT LEARNERS.

UM, WE OFFER A WEALTH OF PROGRAMS ACROSS ALL THE THINGS THAT WE DO.

WE JUST KIND OF TAILOR IT A LITTLE MORE TO MEET THEIR NEEDS.

AND THIS IS OUR BIG GROWING EXPEDITION INTO THE CITY OF EXCELLENCE, OUTREACH, AND PARTNERSHIPS.

UM, AS I MENTIONED, WE'RE HOPING TO GET OUR SECOND VAN NEXT YEAR.

THE FRIENDS HAVE FUNDED THAT GENEROUSLY AND WE APPRECIATE THAT.

WE WANNA BE WHEREVER PEOPLE NEED US OR CAN'T GET TO A LIBRARY OR WANT TO EXPERIENCE A CLASS FROM WHAT WE OFFER IN-HOUSE AT THEIR LOCATION.

WE HAVE A LOT OF GREAT LOCAL PARTNERS.

WE DO A LOT OF WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT CLASSES.

WE DO 'EM IN DIFFERENT LANGUAGES BECAUSE WE HAVE STAFF THAT CAN DO THAT.

UM, SO MANY EVENTS TO ATTEND SCHOOLS ARE GREAT AT WELCOMING US OUT.

SO IF, IF PEOPLE WANT US, THEY CAN BOOK US BY USING OUR FORM ONLINE AND WE'RE DELIGHTED TO BE THERE.

INTERNALLY.

WE ALSO WORK WITH ALL THE OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS.

SO IF THERE'S A NEED, WE ALWAYS LOOK AROUND AND SAY, WHO ELSE CAN WE BRING WITH US? WE ALL HAVE FRIENDS OF OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS, SO WE TRY AND GO OUT AND PRESENT THAT AT AT LARGE AS WELL.

AND THEN HERE WE GO, DAVIS LIBRARY REOPENING.

YAY, , WE DID IT.

.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND SHOWING UP AT THAT EVENT.

UH, IT WAS A GREAT EVENT.

WE HAD OVER A THOUSAND PEOPLE SHOW UP.

THERE WAS BUBBLES, THERE WAS FUN.

THERE WAS ALL SORTS OF THINGS TO DO AT THE LIBRARY.

UM, DAVIS LIBRARY ADDED TWO LARGE PROGRAM ROOMS THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN BOOK.

THEY CAN BE USED SINGULARLY AS 100 AND 100 OR COLLECTIVELY AS 200.

UM, WE LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING ALL THERE.

WE ALSO ON THE JOINT YOUTH SIDE, SO WHEN YOU WALK UP TO DAVIS, THE LEFT SIDE IS JOINT YOUTH.

THERE'S QUIET STUDY OVER THERE AND NINE STUDY ROOMS THAT CAN BE BOOKED.

TO THE RIGHT IS THE LIBRARY THAT YOU WOULD THINK OF, WHICH IS ALL THE CHILDREN'S MATERIALS, ADULT MATERIALS, COMPUTERS, AND THE PROGRAM ROOMS. SO, UM, JUST LAST MONTH THE STUDY ROOMS AT DAVIS HAD OVER 550 BOOKINGS, IF THAT TELLS YOU HOW POPULAR THAT RESOURCE IS.

SO WE'RE DELIGHTED TO BE ABLE TO OFFER THAT.

AND THEN HARRINGTON LIBRARY, I GET CHILLS WHEN I LOOK AT HARRINGTON LIBRARY.

IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN THERE YET, PLEASE, I INVITE YOU TO VISIT.

UM, IF YOU WANNA WAIT FOR THE GRAND REOPENING, PLEASE DO.

THE SPACE IS COMPLETE.

WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE THINGS YET.

THAT'S JUST A SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUE.

SO AS SOON AS WE HAVE ALL THE THINGS, WE'LL DO A GRAND REOPENING LIKE WE DID FOR DAVIS, BUT THEY HAVE THE TWO LARGE PROGRAM ROOMS THAT YOU CAN BOOK.

THEY HAVE TWO CONFERENCE ROOMS THAT ARE UNLIKE ANYTHING ELSE WE OFFER IN OUR LIBRARY SYSTEM.

THEY HAVE SEATING FOR EIGHT AND MEDIA, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE SIX STUDY ROOMS FOR THEM.

SO IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN TO HARRINGTON, UM, JUST LOOK UP AT THE TOP RIGHT.

TO SEE IT IN PERSON IS PRETTY DELIGHTFUL.

SO THE TREES WILL AMAZE YOU.

AND HAVING BEEN A CHILD TO PARENTING LIBRARY, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S JUST AMAZING TO WALK AROUND THAT SPACE.

SO LOOKING AHEAD, THIS IS OUR FANTASTIC TEAM.

P P THERE THEY ARE, .

WE ALL GOT TOGETHER LAST AUGUST FOR OUR FIRST STAFF DEVELOPMENT DAY IN PERSON, NOT ON ZOOM.

AND IT WAS SO GREAT TO TRAIN AND LEARN TOGETHER.

UM, WE ARE GONNA CONTINUE TRAINING TOGETHER, LEARNING TOGETHER, SO THAT IN 2024 WE CAN GO OUT AT LARGE AND PRESENT CLASSES IN THE COMMUNITY AND DO OUTREACH.

UM, THAT IS WHY WE ARE ABLE TO DO WHAT WE DO.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT TEAM, THEY ARE PHENOMENAL PEOPLE WHO BRING THEMSELVES TO WORK AND DELIVER EXCELLENT SERVICE EACH AND EVERY DAY.

AND I'M JUST, I'M HONORED TO WORK WITH, UM, WE'RE DOING OUR STRATEGIC PLAN UPDATE AT THE END OF THIS

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YEAR.

THEY'LL BE A BIG PART OF THAT AT OUR STAFF DEVELOPMENT DAY.

AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE OUR OUTREACH VEHICLE NEXT YEAR AND A NEW R F I D SYSTEM.

SO, WITH THAT QUESTION, THANK YOU, LIBBY, ANY QUESTIONS, UH, FOR LIBBY? SHELBY? YES SIR.

LIBBY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS.

SO MY OWN READING BACKLOG AFTER BOOKS KEPT PILING UP UNREAD UNTIL IT REACHED CRITICAL MASS.

I VERY RECENTLY DISCOVERED, UH, OUR AUDIO BOOKS THROUGH THE LIBRARY ON OVERDRIVE.

SO RECOGNIZING THAT AUDIO VERSIONS AREN'T GOING TO BE AS GOOD FOR OUR LEARNING PROGRAM ACROSS BUSINESS AND CAREER, FINANCIAL LITERACY, ET CETERA, AS IT WOULD BE WITH AN IN-PERSON EXPERIENCE.

UH, ARE WE EXPLORING ANY AUDIOBOOK VERSION OF, UH, THE, THE EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE OFFERING, EVEN IF THEY'RE RUDIMENTARY LECTURES? CUZ I'M, I'M ABLE TO ABSORB SO MUCH MORE CONTENT NOW THAT I CAN LISTEN IN MY CAR AND SURE.

MOWING THE LAWN WELL, WHICH I HAVEN'T HAD TO DO OVER THE WINTER, BUT STILL YOU GET THE IDEA THEN, UH, WAITING UNTIL I CAN ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE BOOK.

SURE.

SO ACTUALLY WE ALL, WE OFFER THE GREAT COURSES.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE GREAT COURSES CONTENT.

YOU CAN, UM, ACCESS IT THROUGH A VARIETY OF OUR DATABASES, I BELIEVE, AND YOU CAN LISTEN TO IT AS WELL.

UM, I TOO HAVE RECENTLY DISCOVERED THE JOY OF A GOOD AUDIO BOOK .

AND SO, UM, YEAH, WE OFFER, ACTUALLY THERE IS FINANCIAL LITERACY BOOKS IN OUR AUDIO COLLECTION.

WE DO HAVE A WEALTH OF NON-FICTION TOPICS.

UM, AND ALSO IF PATRONS HAVE AN INTEREST, UH, THEY'RE WELCOME TO SUGGESTED TITLE AND THEY LOOK TO SEE IF IT'S AVAILABLE THROUGH THE LIBBY APP.

THAT'S OVERDRIVE AS TRANSITION TO LIBBY.

SO IF YOU HAVEN'T DOWNLOADED THE LIBBY APP, I HIGHLY ENCOURAGE IT.

IT'S, I DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE WE HAD, UH, THE GREAT COURSES.

YES, WE DO.

BUT THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE PRETTY VISUAL HEAVY, AREN'T THEY? THEY'RE PROBABLY VISUAL HEAVY, BUT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO LISTEN TO SOME CONTENT AS WELL.

YEAH.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

YOU BET.

YOU KNOW, ON A SIMILAR NOTE, SOMETHING I'VE BEEN WONDERING THAT OTHERS OUT THERE MIGHT BE WONDERING.

ALSO, I KNOW THAT, UH, THAT WE CAN GET ACCESS TO NEWSPAPERS THROUGH THE LIBRARY.

COULDN'T REMEMBER HOW TO DO THAT.

I COULD, COULD YOU REMIND ME, ? WELL, NUMBER ONE, YOU CAN BOOK A LIBRARIAN, WHICH IS A SERVICE WE OFFER.

ANYONE CAN BOOK A LIBRARIAN AND, AND MEET THROUGH THEM THROUGH ZOOM.

BUT YOU CAN ACCESS THE WALL STREET JOURNAL, THE NEW YORK TIMES.

THERE'S HUNDREDS OF NEWSPAPERS ON.

UM, OH MY GOODNESS, IT JUST WENT OUTTA MY BRAIN PRESS READER.

I APOLOGIZE.

PRESS READERS WHERE YOU CAN READ THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND THAT, THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING OF.

THANK YOU FOR THE REMINDER.

I THOUGHT OTHER PEOPLE OUT THERE MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN THAT AS WELL.

SO THANK YOU.

I THINK THAT'S A GREAT PROGRAM TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS.

PRESS READER HAS MULTIPLE LANGUAGES TOO, SO IF YOU LIKE TO READ AROUND THE WORLD, THAT'S A GREAT RESOURCE.

IT'S WONDERFUL.

THANK YOU.

ALL AVAILABLE FROM YOUR MOBILE APP.

IF YOU DOWNLOAD OUR MOBILE APP TO YOUR PHONE, I HAVE TO ALWAYS SELL THAT.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME THAT YOU HAVE OUR MOBILE APP AND A LIBRARY CARD.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OUR NEXT ITEM IS ITEM FOUR, TECHNOLOGY SOLUTIONS.

DEPARTMENTAL UPDATE, CHIEF INFORMATION OFFICER ROGER WRIGHT.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.

COUNSEL, CITY MANAGER.

I AM ROGER WRIGHT, CHIEF INFORMATION OFFICER FOR TECHNOLOGY SOLUTIONS.

UM, WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW, UM, A LITTLE DIFFERENT TONIGHT, GO THROUGH SOME OF THE BASIC INFORMATION FOR YOU.

THIS IS MY, MY TOP LEVEL TEAM, MY MANAGEMENT TEAM.

IT IN CONSISTS OF, UH, A NEW POSITION THAT WE'VE ADDED REPORTING TO ME, WHICH IS A SOLUTIONS ARCHITECT.

WE ADDED THAT LAST YEAR.

THAT IS A REALLY IMPORTANT POSITION.

I SPENT A LOT OF TIME EXPLAINING THAT THE SOLUTIONS ARCHITECT IS ALL ABOUT ENABLING SOLUTIONS FOR OUR DEPARTMENTS, WHICH OBVIOUSLY DELIVER SOLUTIONS TO OUR CITIZENS.

THAT PERSON IS ABOUT DEFINING THE PROBLEMS AND UNDERSTANDING 'EM IN A WAY THAT WE TYPICALLY PROBABLY HAVEN'T GOTTEN INTO.

WHAT IS IT THAT WE ARE REALLY TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH? NOT WHAT DO WE, WE THINK WE NEED TO DO, BUT WHAT'S THE REAL CORE PROBLEM AND HOW DO WE APPROACH SOLVING THAT? SO IT'S KIND OF A ADVANCED BUSINESS BUSINESS ANALYST, IF YOU WILL, BA ROLE.

AND THEY ARE WORKING ACROSS ALL THE SOLUTIONS, UM, THE APPLICATIONS, THE INFRASTRUCTURE SECURITY TO REALLY FOCUS IN ON WHAT THOSE THINGS ARE AND GET US THE RIGHT REQUIREMENTS WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENT SO THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS THAT WE NEED TO DO TO ENABLE THEM TO DO BETTER AT WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

SO THAT IS AARON HUTTON.

UM, THANK YOU FOR THAT POSITION LAST YEAR.

AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S ALREADY PAYING DIVIDENDS FOR US.

THEN WE'RE SPLIT OUT BETWEEN INFRASTRUCTURE, APPLICATIONS AND SECURITY.

AND, UH, IF I HAD, UH, MORE ATTENTION TO DETAIL, IT WOULD ALSO SHOW THAT THE STRATEGIC PROJECT IMPLEMENTATION OF THE GROUP REPORTS TO ME.

JASON BELL, WHICH I LEFT OFF OF MY SLIDES, A RECENT ADDITION LAST YEAR TO MY TEAM.

I DO WANNA SHOW YOU THAT THERE IS SOME THAT WE DO THINK ABOUT STRATEGIC ALIGNMENT AS WE DO OUR PROJECTS.

UM, NOT ALL OF THESE ARE OWNED BY US, BUT THEY'RE ALL THINGS THAT WE'RE SUPPORTING FOR MULTIMODAL TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT.

WE'RE DOING A A MAJOR RE RE WORK AT.

YOU'RE WORKING THEM UNDER CALEB'S LEADERSHIP.

WE'RE SUPPORTING THAT PROJECT.

CARDIOGRAPH IS A, OUR, A PHENOMENAL ASSET MANAGEMENT TOOL, WHICH HELPS US TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE

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ALL OF OUR ROADS IN TRANSIT BETTER.

AND THEN WE'RE PUTTING IN A NEW CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT SYSTEM THIS YEAR, WHICH OBVIOUSLY WILL HELP US WITH THAT SAFE AND VIBRANT NEIGHBORHOODS, COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH, AUTOMATED DISPATCH RECORDS MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, WHICH WORKING TO REPLACE THIS YEAR.

OUR PURVI FIRE, WHICH WE MADE SOME ENHANCEMENTS TO THIS YEAR.

AND CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT, AGAIN, SUPPORTS THAT AS WELL.

AND THEN FOR INNOVATIVE AND ACCOUNTABLE GOVERNMENT, OUR FINANCIAL SYSTEMS, OUR HR SYSTEMS, AND OUR SECURITY SYSTEMS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PROVIDING ACCOUNTABLE, SECURE SYSTEMS FOR EVERYONE.

OUR MISSION AND VISION.

WE WANNA BE THE TECHNOLOGY LEADER.

WE'RE THE CITY OF EXCELLENCE.

SO WE WANT TO BE THE TECHNOLOGY LEADER AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT COMMUNITY ENABLING.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING YOU'RE GONNA HEAR THROUGHOUT THIS PRESENTATION IS HOW I SEE OUR ROLE, OUR ORGANIZATIONS TO EXCEED THE SERVICE EXPECTATIONS OF OUR CUSTOMERS, WHICH IS ALL THE CUSTOMERS FROM THE COMMUNITY THROUGH INNOVATIVE AND COST EFFECTIVE USE OF TECHNOLOGY.

WE WANNA PROVIDE THAT QUALITY SUPPORT, CONSULTATION AND RELIABLE SOLUTIONS THAT ADDRESS THE REQUIREMENTS AND NEEDS OF THE CITY.

THAT'S OUR, THAT'S HOW WE APPROACH OUR WORK.

AND THIS IS WHERE WE KIND OF TAKE A LITTLE DIFFERENT TURN.

SO THE LAST TIME I PRESENTED TO YOU, WE GOT INTO A LOT OF DETAILS AROUND WHAT I CALL BY THE NUMBERS AND WE SHOWED YOU TONS OF STATS, THE SYSTEMS THAT WE HAD, A LOT OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE DOING, UM, FAIR, FAIRLY TECHNOLOGY FOCUSED.

WHAT I WANNA DO THIS TIME IS KIND OF SHOW YOU THAT OUR FOCUS IS REALLY AROUND MANAGING THE BUSINESS OF IT, WHICH HAS A LOT OF DIFFERENT COMPONENTS TO IT.

SO THESE ARE SOME COMMON THINGS THAT I'VE SAID TO MY TEAM SINCE I STARTED.

AND MOST OF YOU PROBABLY REMEMBER I STARTED IN JULY OF DURING COVID.

SO A LOT OF THIS WAS THROUGH ZOOM, BUT WE'VE MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS AS WE'VE GOTTEN TOGETHER.

WE DON'T, THIS IS, THIS ROCKED A LOT OF MY TEAM'S WORLD WHEN I FIRST SAID THIS TO THEM.

WE HAVE NO STANDALONE PURPOSE TO EXIST IN TECHNOLOGY.

TECHNOLOGY DOES NOT EXIST FOR THE SAKE OF TECHNOLOGY.

EVERY SINGLE THING WE DO IS TO ENABLE A DEPARTMENT, SOMEONE LIKE LIBBY WHO'S DOING AMAZING THINGS FOR THE CITY.

WE NEED TO HELP HER TO DELIVER HER SERVICES IN A BETTER, MORE CREATIVE WAY.

BE A FORCE MULTIPLIER.

SO I TELL MY MY DEPARTMENT ALL THE TIME, IF YOU CAN'T MAP WHAT YOU'RE DOING TO WHO IT SERVES, THEN YOU NEED TO QUESTION WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND WHY YOU'RE DOING IT.

AND I USE AN EXAMPLE OF IF YOU'RE IN A NETWORK CLOSET INSTALLING A SWITCH, YOU NEED TO KNOW WHO THAT SWITCH SERVES AND WHAT THEY DO WITH IT TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE PUTTING IN THE RIGHT COMPONENTS TO ENABLE THEM.

SO, UM, THE OTHER THING WE WANNA DO IS WE WANNA BE SOLUTION ORIENTED.

WE WANT TO PROVIDE SERVICES, BUT WE WANT TO DO IT IN A SOLUTION ORIENTED WAY.

SO YOU WANT TO KNOW HOW THAT'S GONNA SERVE THEM AND WE WANT TO IMPLEMENT THOSE THINGS AND NOT INSTALL THOSE THINGS.

AND I THINK MARK'S PROBABLY HEARD THAT MORE TIMES THAN HE'S CARED TO HEAR IT.

BUT WE, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE ACTUALLY DO A FULL IMPLEMENTATION, WHICH STARTS WITH THAT SOLUTIONS ARCHITECT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE DOING AND ROLLS ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO MAKING SURE THAT WHAT WE DID ACTUALLY GAVE A SOLUTION TO SOMEONE SOLVED A PROBLEM.

AND THEN IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE SPEAK TO OUR CUSTOMERS IN THEIR CONTEXT AND THEIR LANGUAGE.

AS I SAY TO MY TEAM, NO GEEK SPEAK.

SO IF WE'RE NOT TALKING TO THEM ABOUT THEIR CONTEXT, THEN HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE KNOW THAT WE'VE ACHIEVED A COMMON UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO? AND THEN DO THAT IN A CUSTOMER FOCUSED AND FRIENDLY WAY.

SO SOME OF THE AREAS THAT WE'RE SPECIFICALLY FOCUSING ON THIS YEAR IS CLEARLY AT THE TOP OF MY LIST IS SECURE OPERATIONS.

WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING WE DO IS SECURE.

AND WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT IN LATER SLIDES.

UM, DATA-DRIVEN MANAGEMENT AND THESE ARE PULLED FROM MY STRATEGIC PLAN.

WE HAVE A VERY DETAILED STRATEGIC PLAN, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AS WE'RE PUTTING IN SOLUTIONS, THAT WE'RE DOING IT IN A WAY THAT ACTUALLY DELIVERS THE DATA THAT'S NEEDED FOR YOU, FOR MARK AND THE OTHER MANAGEMENT TEAM TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS.

INFRASTRUCTURE AND APPLICATION LIFECYCLE MANAGEMENT, AS I SAY, WE WANNA MANAGE THE BUSINESS OF IT.

SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ARE DOING THAT IN A FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE WAY THAT'S ALSO NECESSARY TO HAVE GOOD LIFE CYCLE.

MANAGED TO, TO ENABLE SECURITY.

IF YOU LET THINGS GET OLD, THEN THEY LOSE A LOT OF THEIR SECURITY CAPABILITIES, THEY'RE NOT PATCHED PROPERLY AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

AND WE WANNA DO APPLICATION MODERNIZATION AND INTEGRATION WITH SIMPLIFICATION.

AND THAT INTEGRATION IS ALSO CRITICAL TO NOT ONLY BEING A FORCE MULTIPLIER AND ELIMINATING, YOU KNOW, DATA TRANSCRIPTION AREAS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, BUT IT'S ALSO REALLY IMPORTANT FOR DOING THE DATA-DRIVEN MANAGEMENT.

THE INTEGRATION IS WHAT GIVES YOU THE QUALITY ROBUST DATA YOU NEED ACROSS MULTIPLE SYSTEMS SO THAT YOU CAN TIE THAT TOGETHER.

BUSINESS PROCESS MODERNIZATION FOR MANY, MANY REASONS, AND I'VE GOT A WHOLE SLIDE ON THAT, BUT IT'S AROUND MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE DOING THINGS THE RIGHT WAY TOWARDS THE CITY OF EXCELLENCE THAT WILL ALSO GIVE US BETTER DATA BECAUSE WE WON'T BE DOING MANUAL FORMS. UM, WE FOUND WE HAVE OVER 4,000 MANUAL FORMS IN THE CITY AND WE DON'T WANT TO JUST DIGITIZE THEM.

WE WANT TO ACTUALLY ENABLE THEM TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THE PROCESS THEY'RE SERVING AND HOW DO THEY TIE TOGETHER.

AND THEN CONSISTENTLY DEVELOPING MY STAFF, THE CULTURE, BUILDING A CULTURE THAT DELIVERS ON THE PROMISE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE DONE, UH, AS PART OF MANAGING THE BUSINESS OF IT, WE'VE INTRODUCED VARIABLE CAPACITY.

SOME PEOPLE CALL IT STAFF ORG, SOME PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.

IT'S ACTUALLY A MIX OF BOTH.

IT'S CRITICAL TO WHAT WE DO.

UM, I RAN THROUGH SOME, SOME ITEMS HERE AROUND

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OPERATIONAL BENEFITS AND RECRUITING BENEFITS.

IT REALLY HELPS US IN THE FACT THAT IT ALLOWS US TO MEET THE CHANGING DEMANDS.

IF I JUST KEEP ADDING POSITIONS TO MY STAFF AND MY DEMANDS ARE VERY, UM, DYNAMIC AND VARIABLE.

SOMETIMES I NEED SYSTEMS PEOPLE.

SO I NEED NETWORK PEOPLE.

I MIGHT NEED APPLICATIONS PEOPLE.

I WOULD HAVE TO HAVE OVER CAPACITY IN ALL THOSE AREAS TO MEET THE SURGE NEEDS THAT I HAVE.

BY LEVERAGING STAFF ALL I CAN RUN A MUCH LEANER TEAM AND THEN BRING IN VERY, UM, TARGETED RESOURCES.

AND THAT'S THE SURGE CAPACITY IS AROUND THE OPERATIONAL ISSUES.

BECAUSE AS WE DECIDE WE'RE GONNA REPLACE ALL OUR NETWORKS, WHICH IS I NEED CAPACITY THERE OR IF WE DECIDE TO, TO RETIRE ALL THE 2008 SERVERS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

IT ALLOWS ME TO TARGET THOSE RESOURCES.

BUT IT ALSO GIVES ME SPECIALIZED SKILLS THAT I DON'T EVEN WANT TO HAVE ON MY TEAM FULL-TIME.

IF I HAD THEM, I WOULD BE PAYING THEM EXTREMELY PRIME SALARIES AND LIKE WE REPLACE OUR NETWORK MAYBE EVERY EIGHT YEARS AND THE NEW TECHNOLOGY IS NOT THE TECHNOLOGY WE'RE USING TODAY.

SO IF I HIRED THEM TODAY, THEY WOULD BE ACTUALLY BE NOT SKILLED IN THE AREA I NEED THEM TO BE IN EIGHT YEARS WHEN I NEED TO, TO, UH, RETIRE THAT PARTICULAR ONE, GO TO THE NEW ONE AND THEY WOULDN'T STAY.

CUZ PEOPLE OF THAT NATURE WANT TO BE CONSTANTLY.

SO WE TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE KEY OPERATIONAL PEOPLE WE NEED AND GO SEEK OUT THE VERY SPECIALIZED SKILLS AND KEEP HAVING THEM WHEN WE NEED THEM AND NOT PAY FOR THEM ALL THE TIME.

BUT IT ALSO INCLUDES OUR SPEED TO MARKET AND OUR QUALITY BECAUSE WE ARE GETTING THOSE QUALIFIED, VARIOUS TARGETED PEOPLE AND WE ARE ABLE TO GO FASTER CUZ WE CAN SURGE.

WE USE THESE ALSO TO FILL SOME OF OUR HARD TO FILL POSITIONS.

UM, WE HAVE SOME OF THESE POSITIONS ARE, ARE ARE JUST VERY COMPETITIVE RIGHT NOW.

SYSTEMS ENGINEERS.

EVERYONE I TALK TO HAS HAVING TROUBLE FILLING THEM.

I CAN GO TO THESE STAFF, ALL COMPANIES AND THEY CAN FIND ME THOSE KEY RESOURCES FROM THEIR VERY LARGE REPOSITORY.

AND THEN WE BRING THEM IN FOR SIX MONTHS.

IF THEY DON'T FIT, WE RELEASE THEM.

SO WE'RE NOT ONLY HIRING SKILL SETS, BUT AS I, YOU CAN HEAR ME TALK A LOT ABOUT CULTURE.

I NEED THESE RESOURCES TO BUY INTO WHAT WE DO HERE IN PLANO AND THE WAY THAT WE DO IT.

SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

AND I CAN ACTUALLY CYCLE THROUGH THEM IN THAT SIX MONTHS CUZ I HAVE A PHILOSOPHY OF HIRING, YOU KNOW, GOOD ATHLETES WITH GOOD APTITUDE AND I CAN TEACH THEM THE ADVANCED SKILLS THAT I NEED CUZ SKILLS THAT DON'T FIT ACTUALLY END UP CAUSING YOU MORE PROBLEMS. DIGITAL TRANSFORMATION, THIS IS A BUSY SLIDE.

UM, I WON'T TAKE YOU THROUGH EVERYTHING, BUT THE REALITY IS, AS I SAID, WE HAVE A LOT OF ACCESS DATABASES.

WE HAVE 4,000 FORMS, WE HAVE SMARTSHEETS, WE HAVE SMART TABLES, WE HAVE EXCEL, WE HAVE ALL KINDS OF SOLUTIONS HERE.

AND A LOT OF THOSE THINGS HAVE BEEN THERE FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT GOOD FROM A DISASTER RECOVERY STANDPOINT.

THEY'RE NOT GOOD FROM A DATA-DRIVEN MANAGEMENT STANDPOINT CAUSE THEY DON'T TIE TOGETHER WELL.

SO WE WANT TO TAKE APPROACH THESE THINGS.

WE WANT TO CHALLENGE THE WAY THINGS ARE DONE TODAY.

WE WANT TO ENABLE THE NEW THINKING.

WE WANT TO USE MY SOLUTIONS ARCHITECT ABOUT WHAT'S THE TRUE PROBLEM, TIE THESE THINGS TOGETHER AND USE OUR SALESFORCE PLATFORM AND OTHER TOOLS.

WE HAVE A HOST OF TOOLS, WE WANNA KEEP A BASE PLATFORM OF THAT AND SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS. AND I REALLY BELIEVE THEY CAN BECOME A SIGNIFICANT FORCE MULTIPLIER AND GIVE PEOPLE LIKE PARKS AND REC AND OUR LIBRARIES BRAND NEW CAPABILITIES AND TOOLS THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TODAY AT A MUCH, UH, LOWER PRICE POINT AND A WHOLE LOT FASTER.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE IMPLEMENTED IS GOVERNANCE.

AND I THINK THIS IS KEY, AND THIS HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, KIND OF CHAMPIONED BY THE, UH, DEPUTY CITY MANAGERS AND THEY HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY SUPPORTIVE IN IMPLEMENTING THIS.

THIS IS A FULL LIFE CYCLE TO WHERE WE TALK ABOUT DEMAND MANAGEMENT, WE TALK ABOUT PRIORITIZATION PROCESSES, WE'VE INTEGRATED THAT INTO OUR BUSINESS PLANNING SO THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ENTIRE PORTFOLIO.

BUT WHEN WE GO IN TO DO A LARGE PROJECT LIKE PD, RMS OR DEVELOPMENT SYSTEMS REPLACEMENT, A LOT OF THESE LARGE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE DOING, THIS GOVERNANCE HELPS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A CORE TEAM THAT'S ADDRESSING THE KEY ISSUES, THAT THEY'RE THE RIGHT PEOPLE AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE CONSISTENT ON THE PROJECT.

THEY HAVE A STEERING COMMITTEE THAT'S GIVING THEM THE GUIDANCE AND AN ESCALATION POINT THAT THEY NEED.

AND OVERALL GOVERNANCE ALL THE WAY UP TO THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND MYSELF AND WHOEVER THE BUSINESS SPONSOR IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT ULTIMATE ESCALATION POINT TO KEEP THEM ON BUDGET, KEEP THEM WITHIN THE SCOPE, MAKE SURE THAT THEY ACTUALLY ARE SOLVING THE PROBLEM, THAT WE'RE DOING THINGS THROUGH THE SYSTEM AND NOT AROUND IT, AND THAT WE'RE ACHIEVING ALL THE GOALS THAT WE WANT.

IT HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL ON OUR CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE PROJECT AND ON SEVERAL OTHER KEY PROJECTS, THE PROJECT MANAGERS DOWN THERE AT THE BOTTOM.

AND THAT IS MY, UH, MY OBJECTIVE ARCHITECT OF THE PROJECT AND WE HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE TO THIS.

AND WE'VE HAD A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN HOW WE TALK ABOUT PROJECT MANAGEMENT.

WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE, WE WERE IN A TRAINING CLASS AND ONE OF THE PROJECT MANAGERS INTRODUCED THEMSELVES.

THEY SAID, I'M A PROJECT MANAGER.

I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR DELIVERING PROJECTS ON TIME, ON BUDGET, WITHIN SCOPE.

AND AFTER THE MEETING I GOT WITH THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT TEAM AND I SAID, THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY WHAT YOU DO, THAT'S HOW YOU DO IT.

WHAT YOU DO IS YOU, YOU SOLVE PROBLEMS AND YOU SOLVE THOSE PROBLEMS FOR OUR CUSTOMERS ON TIME, WITHIN BUDGET, WITHIN SCOPE.

SO THAT'S THE, THE NATURE OF THIS THROUGH THIS GOVERNANCE PROCESS, THEY CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT.

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THIS IS JUST A LIST OF OUR KEY PROJECTS.

UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF VERY KEY PROJECTS RIGHT NOW, AS YOU KNOW.

WE HAVE THE SECURITY STRATEGIC MANAGEMENT PLAN.

WE'VE GOT A CITY PORTAL, WHICH IS CITY HALL AND THE PALM OF YOUR HAND.

WE'RE TAKING A METHODICAL APPROACH USING OUR CI, OUR SOLUTIONS ARCHITECT ON ALL OF THESE.

FOR EXAMPLE, IN CITY PORTAL, WE'RE GOING TO THE DEPARTMENTS AND WE'RE HAVING LARGE KIND OF, UH, JOINT APPLICATION SESSIONS OR BRAINSTORMING SESSIONS WHERE WE'RE SAYING, WHAT ARE THE KEY SERVICES YOU PROVIDE? WHAT'S THE FREQUENCY YOU PROVIDED AT, HOW CRITICAL IT IS TO YOUR USERS AND, AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

AND WE'RE MAKING THAT LIST AND THEN WE'RE GONNA KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHAT, HOW DO YOU MESH ALL THAT INTO KIND OF LIKE A, UH, UH, A STRUCTURE OF ALIGNMENT OF THAT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE INSIDE OF A PORTAL.

SO IT'S A VERY METHODICAL APPROACH.

UM, THIS PROJECT IS SOMEWHAT IMPORTANT TO A KEY PERSON, SO WE'RE WORKING VERY DILIGENTLY ON THAT.

UH, VOLUNTEER MANAGEMENT, THIS IS REALLY TO ENABLE KIND OF NEIGHBORS HELPING NEIGHBORS IS ONE WAY IT'S CALLED OR VOLUNTEER MATCHING.

IT'S MATCHING CITIZENS THAT HAVE NEEDS WITH CITIZENS THAT CAN HELP MEET THOSE NEEDS.

WE'RE GONNA PUT IN A, A BASE ENTERPRISE VOLUNTEER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, WHICH WILL MAKE US BETTER AT THAT ACROSS THE BOARD.

IT'S GONNA LET US ACTUALLY KNOW WHO OUR VOLUNTEERS ARE ACROSS MARKET TO THEM, HAVE ONE, UM, UH, BACKGROUND CHECK, ONE SET OF WAIVERS AND THINGS ALL COMMON AND CONSISTENT.

AND SO IT'LL GIVE US A MUCH BETTER WAY TO MANAGE THAT.

AGAIN, A FORCE MULTIPLIER, BUT ALSO A MUCH BETTER VALUE PROPOSITION FOR THE CITIZENS.

AND THEN WE'LL USE THAT TO EXTEND THAT TO THE VOLUNTEER MATCHING.

SO I WON'T TAKE YOU THROUGH ALL THESE PROJECTS, BUT THEY'RE SIZABLE REPLACING ENTIRE RECORD MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, REPLACING OUR LARGEST ACCOUNTS RECEIVABLE UTILITY BUILDING, VERY SIZABLE REPLACING OUR PHONE SYSTEM.

SO A LOT OF KEY SIZABLE WORK THERE.

AND THE LAST THING, UM, AS I SAID, KIND OF STARTED OFF ON THE THINGS THAT'S MOST IMPORTANT TO ME IS SECURITY.

AND, UH, KIND OF ENDING WITH THAT, AND THIS IS JUST TO GIVE YOU KIND OF A, WE'VE TALKED IN DETAIL ABOUT A FEW SECURITY ITEMS AND ANYTIME I DO PUBLIC, I KEEP IT AT A HIGH LEVEL OF SECURITY.

BUT WE HAVE A BUSINESS-ORIENTED APPROACH TO SECURITY.

AND THAT SIMPLY MEANS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR BUSINESS IS SECURE ALL OF OUR DATA AND OUR SYSTEMS, BUT DO IT IN AS LITTLE OF A DISRUPTIVE MANNER AS WE CAN.

AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ENGAGE THE DEPARTMENTS.

AND THIS IS AROUND OUR DISASTER RECOVERY THINGS.

WE'RE DOING EXTENSIVE MEETINGS WITH THEM WHERE WE'RE FIGURING OUT WHAT DATA DO YOU HAVE? WHAT SYSTEMS DO YOU USE, WHAT'S ITS CRITICALITY? DO YOU, HOW COULD IT BE? HOW LONG COULD IT BE DOWN? HOW FAST DO YOU NEED TO GET IT TO RETURN SO THAT WE LOOK AT THAT FROM A BUSINESS PERSPECTIVE SO THAT WE CAN DO THE RIGHT ARCHITECTURE THAT WILL ENABLE THOSE TO BE THE LEAST LIKELY TO GO DOWN WITH THE LEAST DISRUPTION THAT WE CAN BRING UP THE FASTEST.

AND THEN SIMPLY STATING FOR THE LAST ONE, OUR SECURITY APPROACHES AROUND LAYERS OF SECURITY.

I MEAN, IF YOU THINK OF YOUR OWN HOUSE AND YOU THINK, WELL, I'M GONNA MAKE SURE THAT I SECURE MY HOUSE.

YOU DON'T JUST, YOU DON'T JUST BUILD A WALL AROUND IT AND YOU CAN, YOU CAN PUT CAMERAS ON IT, YOU CAN LIGHTS ON IT, YOU CAN PUT DEAD BOLTS ON, YOU CAN PUT BARS ON YOUR WINDOWS.

I CAN STILL COME CUT A HOLE THROUGH YOUR ROOF AND IF YOU GOT WINDOWS, I CAN JUST PICK UP A STONE OUTTA YOUR FLOWER BED THROUGH, THROUGH.

MY GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ALL OF THOSE THINGS IN PLACE TO MAKE IT AS HARD FOR SOMEBODY THAT'S LOW SKILLED OR MEDIUM SKILLED TO GET IN AS THEY CAN AND MAKE IT TO WHERE THE HIGH SKILL PEOPLE SAY THERE'S A MUCH EASIER TARGET DOWN THE STREET.

SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT SECURITY.

I COULD SPEND THE ENTIRE CITY BUDGET ON SECURITY AND STILL HAVE GAPS.

SO I NEED TO BE SMART ABOUT THIS AND BE STRATEGIC ABOUT IT.

AND THAT'S WHAT I HAVE.

THANK YOU.

ROGER.

ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM ROGER? COUNCILMAN GRADY? ROGER, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, WHAT DID YOU SAY THE REFRESH RATE WAS ON IT FOR, FOR THE CITY? FOR EQUIPMENT FOR LIFECYCLE MANAGEMENT? YES.

IT'S ACTUALLY DIFFERENT DEPENDING ON COMPONENT.

WE, LAST YEAR WE WENT THROUGH A VERY EXTENSIVE PROCESS TO WHERE WE LAID OUT WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE REASONABLE RISK FOR EACH COMPONENT.

LIKE SWITCHES, WE WENT SEVEN YEARS FOR PCS, WE WENT THREE, WE'RE ACTUALLY TAKING THAT TO FOUR.

UM, SO OUR SERVERS ARE AT FIVE.

SO WE, EVERY SINGLE COMPONENT WAS ANALYZED FOR WHAT THAT LIFECYCLE SHOULD BE.

AND THEN WE MODELED THAT OUT BASED OFF OF WHAT WE HAVE AND PROJECTED WHAT THE TOTAL SPEND WAS AND GOT WITH BUDGET TO SAY HOW MUCH WE NEEDED TO FUND THAT EACH YEAR.

OKAY.

BECAUSE I WAS ALWAYS, UM, FAMILIAR WITH, AND YOU'RE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH IT AS WELL, MOORE'S LAW.

YES.

WHICH IS, UM, THEY BECOME ANTIQUATED WITHIN 18 MONTHS.

AND SO THAT'S WHY I ASKED ABOUT THE REFRESH RATE.

UM, AND DO YOU FEEL THAT WE'RE REFRESHING IT IN THE RIGHT TIME OR DO ARE WE EXTENDING THE LIFETIME OF IT OR DO WE NEED TO SHORTEN THAT? I I CAN TELL YOU I'VE BEEN DOING THIS ROUGHLY 35 YEARS AND I'VE NEVER BEEN IN, AND I'M NOT SAYING THIS IS TO BE FLATTERING.

I'VE NEVER BEEN IN AN ORGANIZATION THAT WAS AS METHODICAL AND PLANNED, REFRESHED AND FUNDED AS WELL AS THIS ONE DOES.

WE'RE IN THE RIGHT PLACE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM.

MAYOR PRO TOWN, HOW MUCH OF YOUR, UH, TEAM'S TIME OR AND OR RESOURCES WOULD YOU SAY IS DEDICATED TO, UM, REACTIVE OR FIXING

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PROBLEMS THAT OCCUR VERSUS GETTING TO BE FOCUSED ON INNOVATION AND SOLVING FOR FUTURE CHALLENGES WE'RE GONNA FACE? THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION.

WHAT I WISH YOU HADN'T ASKED, UM, , I CAN TELL YOU THAT THIS WAS VERY, YOU KNOW, SKIS DID IN A STRATEGIC ASSESSMENT WHEN I GOT HERE.

THAT WAS DONE BEFORE I GOT HERE AND FINISHED AFTER I GOT HERE.

AND WE WERE LABELED PRETTY MUCH A BREAK FIX ORGANIZATION, UM, VERY REACTIVE.

AND THAT IS A VERY DYNAMIC, FAST MOVING TO A MUCH MORE SOLUTION ORIENTED ROLE.

UM, SOME OF MY, MY OFFICERS LIKE JOHN BERGER SITTING UP THERE LIVES AND BREATHES IT.

AND SO HE DOES HIS DAY JOB AND THEN HE STAYS HERE ALL NIGHT SOLUTIONING.

UM, IT'S HIS PASSION AND HE'S OVER THE APPLICATIONS PIECES IS WHERE WE NEED TO BE DOING THAT.

AND AGAIN, AS WE BROUGHT IN SOLUTIONS ARCHITECT, SO I WOULD HEIT BE HESITANT TO GIVE YOU A TARGET, UH, OF WHAT IT IS BECAUSE IT IS CHANGING SO FAST.

I WOULD SAY WE'VE VERY MUCH PUT THE SECURITY ISSUES.

I THINK WE'RE FOCUSED A LOT ON GETTING RID OF SOME OF THE LEGACY STUFF AND SHORING THAT UP.

SO IN THIS NEXT PROBABLY 12 MONTHS, IT'S HIGHER THAN I WANT IT TO BE.

IT'S PROBABLY, I WOULD SAY IT'S EVEN IN THE 60% RANGE OF KEEP THE LIGHTS ON WORK AND DEALING WITH THE, UH, THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND THAT INCLUDES THE APPLICATIONS PIECE, BUT THAT DYNAMIC IS SWINGING RELATIVELY QUICKLY.

EVEN IN A VERY MATURE ORGANIZATION, SOMETHING AS BIG AND COMPLEX AS WE HAVE TAKES A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME.

IF YOU, I USED THIS EXAMPLE WITH, UH, MARK, I THINK A FEW WEEKS AGO.

IF YOU THINK OF YOUR HOME, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO SPEND A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME CUTTING GRASS, TRIMMING STRIPS, SH TRIMMING SHRUBS, CAULKING WINDOWS, I MEAN ALL KINDS OF PAINTING IN YOUR HOUSE.

THERE'S ALL KINDS OF STUFF YOU HAVE TO DO JUST TO KEEP IT IN THE STATE THAT YOU HAVE IT, AND YET YOU WANT TO CONSTANTLY IMPROVE IT.

SO IT'S, IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE AT BEST PROBABLY A 50 50 PROPOSITION.

SO WE'RE MAKING A LOT OF IMPROVEMENT IN THAT SPACE.

KAMAN WILLIAMS. YEAH.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS.

ROGER.

I SHOULD HAVE ASKED YOU THIS QUESTION A LONG TIME AGO, BUT I WAS DISCUSSING DEVOPS LAST WEEK WITH A CLIENT AND SO I WANTED TO PUT IT TO YOU AS WELL.

IT'S TIMELY.

UM, ARE WE EXPLORING OR ARE WE ALREADY, UH, OPERATING IN OR MOVING TOWARD A DEVOPS MODEL? UM, IF JOHN GETS HIS WAY, WE'LL BE THERE TOMORROW.

.

UH, IT DEFINITELY, AS WE START MOVING INTO MORE OF THE SALESFORCE WORK AND THE SOLUTIONS AND THINGS, THERE'LL BE A LOT OF COMPONENTS OF THAT.

UM, WE HAVE SO MANY, AND I KNOW I'M KIND OF MIXING SOME TERMS ON YOU HERE, BUT YOU'LL FOLLOW ME.

I'M CONFIDENT THAT WE HAVE SO MANY, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE, KIND OF BIG APPLICATIONS THAT, YOU KNOW, MOVING TO FULL DEVOPS OR AGILE IS, IS NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN DO FULLY.

SURE.

AND IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN'T INTRODUCE ALL OF THOSE CONCEPTS AND LEVERAGE THEM, AND WE PLAN TO DO THAT.

SO MAYBE NOT TOMORROW, BUT NEXT THURSDAY MAYBE.

.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

UM, ROGER CAME ON BOARD TWO, TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO, TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO.

AND, UM, HE AND SHELLY AND JOHN LYER AND GUSS AND JASON, UM, AND THEN WE'RE MISSING ONE IN JEREMIAH, UM, HAVE REALLY TAKEN ON MAKING SURE THAT WE, WE HANDLE THE HIGH PRIORITY, HIGH RISK ISSUES FIRST, AND THEN WE START MOVING INTO THE HIGH PRIORITY, LOW, UH, OR HIGH PRIORITY, UH, LOWER RISK ISSUES AND KIND OF METHODICALLY MOVING THROUGH THINGS.

THE THING THAT I, I WILL SHARE WITH YOU IS WITH ALL THAT, UH, WE ARE LIMITED IN OUR CAPACITY TO SOME EXTENT.

UM, WE ONLY HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE, SO MANY HOURS IN THE DAY.

WE DON'T GET 26 HOURS IN THE DAY, WE ONLY GET 24.

UM, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO EFFICIENTLY WORK THROUGH THOSE, UH, ISSUES AS FAST AS WE CAN.

I THINK THE, THE BIGGEST CHANGE FOR OUR ORGANIZATION HAS BEEN THE SHIFT FROM I, UH, FROM INSTALLATION TO IMPLEMENTATION AND TO STOP LOOKING AT, UH, AT SOLUTIONS AS STOP GAPS TO FIT, FIT OUR PROCESSES MORE, TO LET THE, UM, THE NEW INSTALLATIONS AND NEW PROGRAMS REALLY HELP SHAPE THE ORGANIZATION.

AND THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT ASPECT FOR US AS WE MOVE FORWARD, UM, AS WE TALK ABOUT MOVING TO, UM, MORE PLATFORMS LIKE SALESFORCE TO TO HELP GUIDE US AND MOVE US FORWARD.

BUT THE BREAD AND BUTTER IS GUS'S AREA WHERE WE'VE SHARED WITH Y'ALL ON THAT SECURITY SIDE OF THINGS.

WE START WITH SECURITY BECAUSE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT AS WE'RE PROVIDING OUR, OUR PROGRAMS AND SERVICES THAT WE'RE ALWAYS SAFE.

AND UNDER ROGER'S LEADERSHIP, WE'VE DEVELOPED A, A GREAT ROADMAP, A GREAT STRATEGIC PLAN THAT WE HAVE, UH, GROWN AND MATURED IN AND DEVELOPED.

AND, UM, BEFORE ROGER WAS HERE, IT WAS SOMETHING I LOST SLEEP AT NIGHT.

NOW I LOSE LESS SLEEP.

I'LL ALWAYS LOSE SOME, BUT LESS SLEEP, UH, DO IN LARGE PART TO ROGER'S LEADERSHIP AND HIS TEAM.

SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK THEM REAL QUICK FOR ALL THEIR WORK OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, ROGER.

OUR NEXT ITEM IS THE CONSENT AND REGULAR AGENDAS.

IS THERE AN ITEM, UH, SOMEONE WOULD LIKE

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TO, UH, REMOVE? OKAY.

UH, NEXT ITEM IS, UH, ITEMS FOR FUTURE, UH, DISCUSSION ON FUTURE AGENDAS.

COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS? YES, THERE ARE ACTUALLY TWO, UH, SEMI-RELATED ITEMS I'D LIKE TO PLACE ON, UH, UPCOMING AGENDAS.

UM, WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING THESE IN MANY FORMS OVER A FEW YEARS NOW, BUT, UH, THE FIRST ONE, UH, AT THE NEXT MEETING IN FEBRUARY, I'D LIKE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT, UH, REPLACING THE, UM, UH, THE THINGS WE DO WITH HUD FUNDS NO LONGER BEING A HUD RECIPIENT, BUT PROVIDING FOR THOSE NEEDS OURSELVES AND EVERYTHING.

WE CURRENTLY USE HUD FUNDS FOR PROVIDING FOR THOSE THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS WITH THE BUFFINGTON GRANT PROGRAM, UH, WITH PARTNERS THAT ARE ALREADY EQUIPPED TO, UH, TO HANDLE THAT.

AND I'D LIKE TO DO IT IN, UM, UH, TIMELY CONJUNCTION WITH, AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR, UH, FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING, HAVING THE DISCUSSION, I SHOULD SAY, TO PROVIDE, UH, AT LEAST AN EQUIVALENT AMOUNT OF FUNDS THAT WE CURRENTLY GET FROM HUD AND THAT WE'RE ABLE TO MANAGE THAT WITH GREATER FLEXIBILITY AND WITH GREATER, UM, EFFICIENCY.

UH, THAT'S THE FIRST ITEM.

UH, THE SECOND ONE FOR THE SUBSEQUENT MEETING, UH, I GUESS THE FIRST WEEDING MEETING IN MARCH, I'D LIKE TO RECONVENE AND DISCUSS THE, UM, UH, WHAT WE'VE LOOKED AT TO DATE WITH OUR HOUSING TAX CREDIT PROCESS.

ULTIMATELY THOSE YIELD EITHER A LETTER OF, UH, SUPPORT, UH, OBJECTION OR, UH, NO OBJECTION.

UM, AND, UH, I'D LIKE TO, UH, HAVE A, HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT, UH, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THAT STRUCTURE MOVING FORWARD.

MAYOR AND COUNSEL ON THE, THE HUD FUNDS, THERE WILL BE A LARGE FISCAL NOTE ASSOCIATED WITH TAKING THAT ON AS A CITY.

SO I, I JUST WANT TO BE UPFRONT WITH THAT.

BUT I ALSO WANTED TO REMIND COUNSEL, WE HAVE A JOINT WORK SESSION WITH P AND Z AT THE NEXT MEETING, UM, WHICH IS PLANNED TO, TO START A LITTLE BIT EARLIER THAN NORMAL AND MAY TAKE MORE TIME THAN WE HAVE AVAILABLE IN THE PRELIMINARY OPEN.

THE SECOND THING IS, IS ON THE HOUSING TAX CREDIT PROCESS, WE'VE RECEIVED DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL TO ENGAGE A CONSULTANT AND TO REVIEW OUR PROCESS ON THE HOUSING TAX CREDITS.

WE HAVE BEEN ENGAGED WITH, UH, A PARTICULAR, UM, CONSULTANT REGARDING, UM, OUR PROCESS.

WE HAVE BEEN INFORMED, UM, AS A MATTER OF FACT EARLIER TODAY, UH, THAT, THAT REAL, THAT UH, UH, PARTNERSHIP WILL NOT BE HAPPENING AND WILL NOT BE GOING FORWARD.

SO WE ARE GOING TO BE, UH, I CAN PROVIDE THE QUICKEST UPDATE I CAN RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE A CONSULTANT ON BOARD.

UM, SO WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF HAVING ADDITIONAL CONVERS.

WE CAN'T DISCUSS THAT.

I MEAN, WE CAN'T HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.

CORRECT.

I'M SORRY.

YOU'RE FINE.

UM, BUT LETTING COUNSEL KNOW THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT ON IT.

I KNOW.

OKAY.

UM, GOOD POINT AND CRUCIAL POINT.

UM, SO MIGHT I SUGGEST THAT, UH, WE MOVE THE HUD DISCUSSION TO THE FIRST MEETING IN MARCH AND THEN MAYBE MOVE THE HOUSING TAX CREDIT DISCUSSION TO THE SECOND MEETING IN MARCH? UM, AND IF WE DON'T HAVE A CONSULTANT BY THEN, EITHER REPORT ON THE CURRENT STATUS WITH THE CONSULTANT THEN, OR IF WE DON'T HAVE A CONSULTANT BY THEN, UM, DISCUSS SOME OF OUR DIRECTION TO HELP INFORM THE CONSULTANT WHENEVER WE DO SECURE ONE.

I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.

I'LL SECOND BOTH MOTIONS.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

YEAH, JUST, JUST BEING FLEXIBLE IN REGARDS TO SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO ACCOMPLISH BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.

OKAY.

UH, WE'LL TAKE A RECESS AND RETURN AT SEVEN O'CLOCK.